battlefield-2042

[fervent rose]

sure, that could happen. but there's a bigger chance that the mtx sales are poor because the total population is tiny

[arctic grove]

Well Vince Zampella is from Respawn Right?

[pine roost]

Indeed

[arctic grove]

Also that other dude who i forgot is from halo so it could be

[onyx jolt]

heres another thing, marcus letho worked on halo 😄 I loved 2142, but tbh I think the next one will be close to 2042 setting again, it's just more popular for many people imo

[pine roost]

Markus something?

[arctic grove]

Yeah

[pine roost]

Lehto

[slender isle]

letto?

[pine roost]

Lettuce

Although he’s in charge of story as opposed to pure game direction

[arctic grove]

also industrial toys made a sci fi game before it was bought by ea so..

im bettin it

[fervent rose]

i think its more likely to see a bf3 era reboot

[pine roost]

And Zampella working on bf doesn’t mean it’ll get tf movement (to my dissapointment )

[arctic grove]

ill bet my whole bank account on that and a 2024 release.

[remote kiln]

why on earth would battlefield get a different IPs movement?

[arctic grove]

They said they were changing battlefield i heard

[pine roost]

They wouldn’t change it to that degree

[fervent rose]

you can't predict dice though, they put a grapple hook and wingsuit into the battlefield formula

[remote kiln]

dunno where you heard that

must be from outer space

cause zampella came out literally 2 weeks ago saying TF3 isn't coming anytime soon

battlefield players not the brightest bulbs sometimes

[pine roost]

Broke my heart that did

[arctic grove]

Well yesterday the Devs for the next game met up in stockholm for the next game so i imagine next year we will hear something

[fervent rose]

i'm glad they arent making titanfall 3

[arctic grove]

how dare you say that

[remote kiln]

where did you find this out?

[fervent rose]

hopefully their star wars fps is the game battlefront should have been

[pine roost]

Although it sounded like he is still just waiting for the time to be right

[fervent rose]

i'd rather have something new than tf3

[arctic grove]

EA earning calls

or somethin

[remote kiln]

the EA earnings call said nothing about DICE "meeting up about the next game"

lol

they said the exact opposite, that's theres no announcement coming in the near future

[arctic grove]

some dev said that

on twitter

[remote kiln]

I think you're smoking something

[arctic grove]

il find the link

[pine roost]

If you could provide an actual source that’d be nice

[fervent rose]

it was the standard andrew wilson fluff talk

nothing concrete at all

[arctic grove]

wait im looking for one

[remote kiln]

ping me when you find it cause you're the first person to find this out

[arctic grove]

i mean i found sorta a source

[remote kiln]

?

[onyx jolt]

https://twitter.com/game_fabricator/status/1654851838024331266?

[arctic grove]

That was litrelly what i was gonna send

Idk i saw a more clear source earlier

[remote kiln]

that tweet means nothing lol

it was literally talked about here

[arctic grove]

Why would it mean nothin? Its kinda clear why he would be there

[onyx jolt]

it means they are meeting in sweden for things related to the next bf imo

[arctic grove]

yeah

[remote kiln]

no it's just an assumption

[onyx jolt]

ok

😄

[remote kiln]

lehto could be there to discuss anything about the franchise

he is in charge of the narrative in its entirety remember

[arctic grove]

Narrative of the Campaign

[remote kiln]

there is no inference of the next game

[fervent rose]

man works on game, the tweet

its still 0 information

[onyx jolt]

yeah I don't want information anyways, they won't have anything done until end of 2024 anyways imo

[remote kiln]

it's about as meaningful as Alex tweeting he's in LA

[onyx jolt]

so patient crew it is

[remote kiln]

tldr, don't assume something if there's nothing

[fervent rose]

if it releases before 2025 it's just gonna be another shitshow

[arctic grove]

yeah but ive seen worst

Dang i just realised 2025 is 2 years from now

[shadow hazel]

Has anyone noticed since the update, any inconsistencies in the kill cam? Meaning, has it shown you someone that there is no way could have killed you?

[arctic grove]

Yes.

[shadow hazel]

Reason asking, is because last night the kill feed was either really bugged, or I was in some of the worst cheating games I have ever been in

[fervent rose]

that's not the kill cam bugging out, it's lag compensation issues mostly

[remote kiln]

if you mean being shot behind walls then yeah it's lag compensation or latency

[fervent rose]

the people who have 100+ ping on wifi are the worst

[onyx jolt]

not low server tickrate?

[arctic grove]

.......

[shadow hazel]

No.. This is something completely different. I am downloading my vod will have a clip of it in a couple moments

[remote kiln]

the server tickrate regardless of the server is a minimum of 45hz, it will never get lower

[arctic grove]

Which channel then so i can see

[shadow hazel]

I run wired and my pink is low 20's

[remote kiln]

and no the killcam isn't server side anyways

it's client side

[shadow hazel]

ping*

[onyx jolt]

thats low I prefered at least 60hz in older bfs

[fervent rose]

it's not your ping

[onyx jolt]

bf4 even had 90hz servers

[fervent rose]

its the other person's ping that matters

[onyx jolt]

bf5 120 hz

small scale

[remote kiln]

yeah they weren't also 128 players

pretty hard scaling 2x the playercount

[shadow hazel]

K. I dont like calling someone a cheater unless I can prove it so I thought I would ask if others was having this issue

[fervent rose]

when you have normal ping and they have high ping theres weird shit that happens

[arctic grove]

idk why but bf5 run so well for me but bf2042 runs at 47 fps to 60 at most

[onyx jolt]

less players + higher tickrate = far superior experience

[remote kiln]

not denying that

but it's not equivocal to expect it at the flat minimum

[fervent rose]

the engine runs like crap due to whatever sorcery was needed to go 128

it doesnt even play well in Rush

[arctic grove]

yeah its why i play on Xbox more often rather than pc

[fervent rose]

like its a little smoother in 32 player games but it should be higher framerates

[arctic grove]

agreed

[remote kiln]

it's not cause of the playercount

it's cause of how big the maps are

[arctic grove]

Well the maps are pretty smaller now tbh

[remote kiln]

the maps render out far past the boundaries of an actual map and it's taxing as shit to render

[arctic grove]

Im pretty sure Hourglass is the largest

[onyx jolt]

whatever it is next gen bf should combine scale and high tickrate imo, at least try to...otherwise I prefer a smaller scale and more ticks

[arctic grove]

I hope the next bf is 64 player that would be a dream

[fervent rose]

imagine making GIANT maps without stuff to block line of sight

[remote kiln]

orbital spearhead etc are all absolutely huge, you just don't see it cause it's inaccessible

[fervent rose]

haha optimization go to 0

[arctic grove]

I will admit i miss the times when i didnt notice bf2042 had bugs

it took me a week to realise tbh

[onyx jolt]

https://twitter.com/tiggr_/status/1617965736252829697?cxt=HHwWgsDTgfnQlfQsAAAA

[arctic grove]

I didnt even know that existed tbh

[onyx jolt]

imagine 120hz servers on a larger scale in the next bf 😄

no more dying behind cover

[remote kiln]

you definitely will still die behind cover lol

[arctic grove]

Imagine serves with 1000 players,What would the hz be

[remote kiln]

10, if you're lucky

more like 5

[arctic grove]

so bf4 at launch

[remote kiln]

no BF4 was 30 at launch

[arctic grove]

well for me 10

[remote kiln]

??

[arctic grove]

you had stable fps for the first 3 months?

lucky

[onyx jolt]

well if people play competitive cs at 128hz I won't notice it as much at least 😄

[remote kiln]

no but that's not the server tick rate

[remote kiln]

server tick rates can't fix console WiFi my guy

as long as crossplay exists you will always die behind cover

[arctic grove]

I always die behind cover no matter what

even if im so secure im getting shot

[onyx jolt]

well give us a server browser with community hosted servers/ability to disable xplay 😄

[remote kiln]

you already can

literally just a portal server

go switch off crossplay

[onyx jolt]

no thats just wrong dude

[limber raft]

The kick/ban functionality was removed in today's video. It won't be coming in Season 5 update.

[onyx jolt]

crossplay cant be switched of anymore and I mean real rented servers like clan servers back in the day

[remote kiln]

uhm

yes it can lol

[arctic grove]

AW CMON

[remote kiln]

dunno what game you're playing but it's definitely not 2042

[onyx jolt]

it was greyed out last time i checked maybe it was because I was ingame

[remote kiln]

yes that's exactly the reason

why would you try and switch off crossplay inside a server

[onyx jolt]

for the next match..

[shadow hazel]

Video is uploading to youtube, give me a moment

[remote kiln]

..?

[onyx jolt]

but I still think there should be a real server browser with community rented servers not this portal stuff

[quaint vector]

[remote kiln]

server browser isn't coming so no point

already stated 4 times by DICE

[onyx jolt]

talking next bf

[arctic grove]

If theres no server browser im jumpin off a bridge

Litrelly

[quaint vector]

I just opened Discord and I'm like:

[patent path]

just use the portal browser, what's so hard about it

[remote kiln]

you should probably check your priorities if a game causes that lol

[patent path]

it's literally the same thing

[shadow hazel]

Ok, ignore the bad quality, I downscaled it so it was quicker to upload, but here is the link of what I was talking about

https://youtu.be/2aBXIbDnQII

[patent path]

at this point dice should just rename the portal browser to "server browser" and gamers will stop complaining

[pine roost]

Just saw that post of yours, somehow I managed to overhype myself over a squad management system

[remote kiln]

ah right yeah that's a cheater lol

[arctic grove]

you look a bit like me tbh

[shadow hazel]

Sad thing is, every game after that last night had someone doing stuff like that, hitting headshots with pistols from literally A1 to E1 on Spearhead. It was a bad night for gaming

[pine roost]

Honestly that’s not a bad idea. Just make it a bit more inviting on the main page

[remote kiln]

you were on the same server?

[shadow hazel]

Bro Im just an old fart that loves gaming lol

[remote kiln]

need to force switch to prevent that

[shadow hazel]

No I switched 3 times

[remote kiln]

ah unlucky then

[arctic grove]

you look like your probs 40 not too old

[patent path]

yeah, just move the browser from Portal tab to the main page, giant fucking button right in the middle of the screen, it will be like spoon-feeding baby formulas to all these infants

[shadow hazel]

Be 43 in a couple months

[arctic grove]

cool

[remote kiln]

the guy that killed you is a straight aimbotter isn't a open q

wasn't even looking in the same direction

[arctic grove]

everyone is a aimbotter these days, we just dont notice it

[remote kiln]

meh I'm wary of hackusations cause I get it every second match

but that's not disputable

[naive quiver]

everyone said : its skill issues

[shadow hazel]

I didnt report the guy, cause like I said, I dont want to call someone a cheater without proof and it was 1am, was not about to do all this then lol. Just wanted another opinion. Thank you gents

[remote kiln]

np

[arctic grove]

I know some are good but at times the ones that look like they are good at gaming are using hacks

[remote kiln]

the thing is most people using hacks aren't good at the game

so it's easy to spot

a Gemini situation is very rare

[pine roost]

It’s funny watching the people who use them as a crutch and have no idea how to play

[onyx jolt]

funny that I had to change a setting to actually see the server names in portal browser, like wtf

[cerulean slate]

its crazy how good people are in this game, i went from getting 30 kils a game for like 4 games in a row to now maybe 5 for like 7 games in a row now

[shadow hazel]

BF3 on PS3, I would never leave a TDM game with less then 30 kills and never more then 10 deaths. I was a beast on that. Now, Im lucky to get 30 kills against bots in 3 games total lol

[onyx jolt]

we are getting old

[patent path]

yeah if you hide player-created contents, the server's names will be hidden

[onyx jolt]

just like the default all chat off, another weird thing

[arctic grove]

Now im sad remebering bf3

best bf

[onyx jolt]

nvm i must have disabled it wtf

[shadow hazel]

I miss Metro playing M-Com... Meat Grinder was the best time in battlefield

[arctic grove]

Yeah def i just reinstalled bf3 couple hours ago

metro with 128 players would be insane tho

[shadow hazel]

Could you imagine the shear chaos of 128 players in Metro subway... The amount of broken controllers and mice that would happen from that alone lol

[arctic grove]

Yeah too bad we will never see 128 player ever .

Just sent my horrible stats on main account

[fervent rose]

it's a lot harder to find these types of cheaters when they dont stream though. but they are very rare in 2042

[arctic grove]

I accidently joined a random squad and they said that they were ******* someone

[fervent rose]

the self made cheats type isnt ever going to be common thankfully

[arctic grove]

im scared

[shadow hazel]

Well gents, I am off to fire up the stream and get into some BF. See ya'll out there

[untold kindle]

the mm is broke ?

[bitter mulch]

Squad management dev blog today?

[arctic grove]

did they just add Plants on a M1A5 and write it off as a 1k Boins skin 🗿

what.

[humble hound]

is the SU-57 still better than the F-35E?

[rocky bear]

i prefer the f35

i feel like it turns better

the felon just feels sloppy

[humble hound]

You fly on roller or MK?

[rocky bear]

mk

[shadow hazel]

Little lacking in the match making this morning...

43/128?

[rocky bear]

i havent had an issues

[humble hound]

Does it feel like there input lag to you in the jets?

[arctic grove]

yes

100%

[rocky bear]

sometimes

[arctic grove]

what input you are using?

[humble hound]

i just feel like i cant hit any ground targets to save my life but in bf3 and bf4 i was beaming

[humble hound]

controller

[rocky kraken]

hello gentleman

[arctic grove]

Why hello.

Im going to assume your Bri'ish

[humble hound]

are you on controller too?

[arctic grove]

Yeah i use Xbox controller as well as MnK

[rocky kraken]

im not

im boris

[humble hound]

so there is input lag on controller then?

[rocky kraken]

theres input lag on every platform

[arctic grove]

yeah

[rocky kraken]

main problem with the game

besides content

[arctic grove]

honestly i have no hope for more content after season 5

[humble hound]

know of anything to make it better at all?

[arctic grove]

Use Wildcat

[rocky kraken]

lower graphics

maybe

i felt that higher graphics increased input delay

[arctic grove]

no i play at lowest and its still there

[rocky kraken]

dam

[arctic grove]

i think its worse actually

[rocky kraken]

I feel like theres like a 5% chance we get more content after s5

considering the next game will release 2025

[arctic grove]

0% for s7 and s8

[rocky kraken]

not necessarily

theres a slight possibility for a full year 2

they are completley capable of doing it

would probably be worth if they did

[arctic grove]

I dont think they will tho

[rocky kraken]

of course i doubt as well

[arctic grove]

they are doing the mass shutdown of games again

before 2042 bf2 bfv were all cut of their support for more content.

[rocky kraken]

yea but like

if they drop 2042 everyone will riot

[arctic grove]

now we have bc1 bf1943 bc2 apex moblile battlefield mobile all shut down

[rocky kraken]

not sure if they want more heat

[arctic grove]

havent you seen their steams

they sound so nervous to anwser any questions

[rocky kraken]

i would be too

considering fixing 2042 is the only way to bring back the bf community to buy the next game

if they drop it i dont think anyone will buy the next one

[arctic grove]

Nah the next battlefield is the last hope

[rocky kraken]

true

frostbite 4 will probably be a game changer

[arctic grove]

I think it will be a new engine tbh

they seem to be throwing there all.

[rocky kraken]

it is

2042 is on 3.7 or soemthing

frostbite 4 is brand new

hence why it takes them so long to make legacy features, because they have to make it from scratch

[arctic grove]

no 2042 is frostbite 4

[rocky kraken]

nope

its not

you can check

[rocky bear]

call a mod call a mod

[rocky kraken]

Yes sir yeedty

[arctic grove]

it is frost bite 4

[mental delta]

What do you think their plan is ?

[arctic grove]

Bugs fixes and nothing more

[rocky kraken]

battlefield 2042 is using an updated version of frosbite 3

[rocky bear]

this guy also checked the wiki

[rocky kraken]

"In response, a fan asked if the next Battlefield would be developed with Frostbite 3, an upgraded version of Frostbite, or a different engine altogether. Letho replied with a tweet simply reading, "Frostbite is getting some much-needed upgrades." Letho, as of yet, has not clarified what changes were needed or are coming."

[mental delta]

Why would they have made so many efforts and put in so many features just to give up on this game after season 5

[rocky kraken]

because

ea sucks

[rocky bear]

money

[rocky kraken]

sure dice wants to make the game better

ea wont let them

[mental delta]

BF2042 isn't using Frosbite ?

[rocky kraken]

the only games running frostbite 4 is the need for speed game and fifa

2042 is using frostbite 3

next game will use frostbite 4 , an engine thats been in development for more than half a decade

[mental delta]

It's using Frostbite ? 😳

[arctic grove]

yeah ik its weird

[rocky kraken]

no other engine could do battlefield like frostbite

[mental delta]

I thought they said they weren't using it anymore due to problems with it

[rocky kraken]

no

frostbite is meant for battlefield

no

there making a new version

[rocky bear]

no

[solid imp]

They rebuilt a lot of it (engine) after the huge data leak in those months before launch

[mental delta]

#battlefield-2042 message In this message you meant BF6 ?

[rocky kraken]

the next battlefield will use frostbite 4

[arctic grove]

obv

[rocky kraken]

it will have much needed tools

to make dev content creation faster

and easier

[mental delta]

Ha I see, I thought they were using another brand new engine, so their next game will be developed with the same engine ?

[rocky kraken]

no

2042 got a crappy frostbite update

[mental delta]

Which is an updated version of Frostbite 3 ?

[rocky kraken]

yes

they had to do it to support 128p

which is also why graphical fidelity is lacking a bit

from bf5

engine supports more players at a fidelity cost

[rocky bear]

2042 runs on frostbite version "bandaid"

[rocky kraken]

yes

[arctic grove]

Sounds sweet

[mental delta]

What do you mean by "graphical fidelity" ?

[solid imp]

Have to remember the engine is there to put the pieces together but it doesn't really "do the graphics" in that sense.

[rocky kraken]

graphics

well yea

but like

[solid imp]

that's animators, designers, people who model and record the movements, level artists, etc

[rocky kraken]

its obvious we lost it

[rocky bear]

neither does my computer so we chillin

[rocky kraken]

due to performance cuts

[arctic grove]

dang you guys are all playin

[rocky kraken]

just a shame we have to wait till 2025 most likely

im suffering

i didnt sleep

[solid imp]

Better to wait than for them to rush 🙂

imo

[rocky kraken]

we both know it will be unfinished yet again

[rocky bear]

i would much rather wait

[arctic grove]

yeah

[rocky kraken]

id rather wait and get content for 2042

[solid imp]

yes

[rocky kraken]

instead of them giving nothing for two years

[arctic grove]

but at the same time broken games can also be fun

[rocky kraken]

which they will likely do

[rocky bear]

dude leviathan rising was great

[solid imp]

I unironically want hovercrafts to climb walls again

[rocky kraken]

after hourglass rework they should add a ton of maps

[arctic grove]

yeah

[rocky kraken]

yes

[rocky bear]

keep doing that kinda stuff and I'll wait forever

[rocky kraken]

hovercraft flying

[arctic grove]

I want a spider hover craaft

[solid imp]

basic mech 🙂

[rocky bear]

should be a portal option lol

[arctic grove]

i once did that and killed 30 people

[rocky kraken]

also guys

wth happened to portal support

the fact we havent gotten anything should be expressed more foten

often

[mental delta]

So which games used Frostbite 3 ?

[rocky bear]

you can check on the wiki but its a lot

[arctic grove]

bf3,bf4,bfh,bf1,bfv

too much

[solid imp]

go over to the bfportalgg discord

[arctic grove]

im still waiting for 128 bt editor

[mental delta]

They just gave up on this tbh, before season 1 they almost confirmed they wouldn't update it with maps anymore, and the additionnal guns and A-10/Frogfoot we got were reportedly almost finished at launch, that's why they added those

[arctic grove]

i mean who doesnt love 128 player breakthrought

better than 128 rush

[rocky kraken]

they said that for hazard zone not portal i thought

[solid imp]

not 128 but c'mon... can't say no updates lol

[rocky kraken]

portal just needs to be its own game

i mean updates as in content

[arctic grove]

wait what

[rocky kraken]

and fixes

[arctic grove]

Breakthrought is in portal?

[solid imp]

coming soon ™️

[rocky kraken]

a year and a half later

god damnit dice

[mental delta]

For Portal too, someone asked them if we would get more Portal maps more than 1 year ago and they literally replied "we'll see" which kinda says it all

[arctic grove]

yeah thats a no def

[rocky kraken]

maybe we get a portal update at the end of life cycle?

[mental delta]

Idk if you're being saracastic or not ngl

[rocky bear]

when I ask mom for a hotwheels at the store

[mental delta]

Lmao

[arctic grove]

what its obv we'll see is always a no

[edgy oriole]

128bt in portal will revive my life

[mental delta]

Yeah for me too it just means "we're trying to save time with those awkward questions rn because we can't legally say no for the moment"

[shadow hazel]

sad when the game chat is getting as toxic as CoD lobbies....

[solid imp]

I doubt we would get 128bt in any format as it was removed for performance and yet I find myself agreeing that I want it back lol

[rocky kraken]

welcome to modern day gaming

[rocky bear]

i do not have this issue

please advise

[rocky kraken]

gaming in 1890 was the good old days

[shadow hazel]

Nothing Im not use to, just not seen it a lot in Battlefield. But things do tend to change

[edgy oriole]

maybe theyll have a fighting chance at 128 when they drop the dead weight that is last gen on next bf

[arctic grove]

I love 128 breakthrought (even tho i had like 30 fps lol) its just so good and chaotic in a way where its a bit playable, i dont understand why people love 128 rush but then hate on 128 bt

[solid imp]

All Chat has surprisingly so far been mostly positive... yea there's some toxicity here and there but mostly it's gg type things

[arctic grove]

im sorry but im a bit toxic in the chat

i need chaos

[edgy oriole]

[solid imp]

so you're why we can't have nice things

[mental delta]

I mean I see toxicity as a positive thing, at least people are deep focused into the game, that's a good sign to me

[arctic grove]

i need to insult the enemy sometimes its just nature

[solid imp]

to a point but I see what you're saying overall

[glossy storm]

Am currently in a BFV match: Why the hell am I constantly redeploying?

[solid imp]

because you're constantly getting killed

[arctic grove]

Cause your called Mackay

[solid imp]

you brought a Mackay to a WWII fight

[arctic grove]

yeah wtf

[glossy storm]

No, seriously.

Why?

[mental delta]

The amount of times I insulted people camping with RM68, I should get a kick

[arctic grove]

hackers

[glossy storm]

Damn it.

[solid imp]

well just see how the RM people do after it gets a look with S5 changes

[arctic grove]

most likely hackers doin it just leave and join a different

[solid imp]

I hit T1 on the RM and stopped using it because it's just cheesing KD at that point

[glossy storm]

This is my 4th server joining which has hackers.

[solid imp]

I use it from time to time when someone is really making me angry lol

[arctic grove]

its normal

[mental delta]

Idk why it takes so much time to just nerf a gun, it's... suspect

[arctic grove]

fun.

[edgy oriole]

i also t1 rm and stopped using it. now im rao with crossbow to balance it out

[slender isle]

I’d rather toxicity between teams than “man this game is so ass why y’all playing this”

[rocky kraken]

it shocks me rm68 hasnt gotten nerfed the entire season

[edgy oriole]

[rocky kraken]

gun ruined the game

[arctic grove]

HOLD THE F***

you guys have t1 rm.

[solid imp]

But as they put vault weapons in and now adding in attachments, it also changes how those balance in against other weapons that are already in the game

Alex's mindset the whole time has been to change a few things and watch if it worked or broke more before changing morte

*more

[edgy oriole]

why would you be shocked? all season weapons dont get nerfed until the next season. they have 40 lvls of the battlepass to sell

[next sorrel]

i slept 0 hours, 0 minutes, and 0 seconds today, lol

[mental delta]

Yeah it sure is fun to get killed from a fucker 250 meters away with AR

[arctic grove]

Its not im playin

[mental delta]

Me too, ngl I used to be like this at a time but all chat is a good way to express all your anger towards enemy team

[arctic grove]

How many of you guys are t1?

[solid imp]

Yeah but at the risk of having an RM situation, I do enjoy the more gradual balance changes as opposed to flapping in the wind of whatever criticisms happen to blow up a discord chat

[mental delta]

I completed all BPs if that's what you meant

[arctic grove]

no i mean weapons and specalist

tier 1

[edgy oriole]

if we talking op tho. bsvm is the fastest i t1 a weapon. rm is 2nd in line tho

[solid imp]

specialist=yes, classes=yes, weapon=more than half

[mental delta]

Angel only, M5A3 and AK24

[wide shore]

Same

[arctic grove]

nah i wanna know your stats

i only got one specalist tier 1 and one weapons

[mental delta]

Hey post your stats here rn dude

[solid imp]

is that asking for proof??

[edgy oriole]

he said stats

[mental delta]

I meant stats lol

[solid imp]

yeah but battlefield tracker doesn't show tiers

[arctic grove]

so

[solid imp]

he asked tiers originally

[arctic grove]

just show us

[rocky kraken]

yo kaoss

you think they will ever add tiers past t1

[edgy oriole]

[next sorrel]

tier 0? tier -1?

[arctic grove]

im the root of all chaos

[solid imp]

lolk

you are

[arctic grove]

im always the start of something

[solid imp]

He asked for Tier 1 before asking for stats lol

[rocky kraken]

naw like

tiers past 1200 kills

[edgy oriole]

https://tenor.com/view/travis-scott-fire-mood-scream-gif-12489711

[rocky kraken]

so theres more to grind for

[edgy oriole]

stats

[arctic grove]

yeah ik but now im genuinely curious

[edgy oriole]

they should do challenges like bfv instead of just 1200 kills

[arctic grove]

bloody hell how long did that take

[edgy oriole]

10% acc

[solid imp]

This amount of time

[arctic grove]

Touch Grass mate

[edgy oriole]

115h on breakaway oof

idk how you survive

[arctic grove]

ive been here since launch and still am not close

[edgy oriole]

i got a couple hours

[solid imp]

my KD with Zain is best

way way above that 1.8-ish global KD

like 3.3 or 3.4 or such

[arctic grove]

why mate just use somethin else

[edgy oriole]

way doesnt count. he abused mackay through it all

[solid imp]

Way's stats don't count because that man is too good

don't put my stats against Way's please

[arctic grove]

Nah if you guys see my stats youll realsie how bad i am

[edgy oriole]

i get close to 2kd then i tank my kd doing dumb stuff like soflam only.

[mental delta]

My ratio is full negative 😎

[arctic grove]

im in the top 1.4 % for deaths

[solid imp]

Honestly it's not hard to have a good KD or put that amount of time in when you have a squad in comms so you're reviving, resupplying, all taking the same objective (at the same time) or repairbotting a tank or whatever

[wide shore]

Specalists: Angel, Falck, Lis, Boris, Paik.
Guns: PBX, PP, MP9, M5A3, AK24, SFAR, AC42, AM40, AVANCYS, LCMG, PKP, BSVM, M5 Recoilless

That’s all the stuff I’ve T1’d. Getting there with the RM and RPT

[solid imp]

Comms with a crew makes 2042 easy mode

[edgy oriole]

true

[solid imp]

Get that RM/RPT fast!

Before S5 🙂

[arctic grove]

want me to copy my whole stats?

[wide shore]

They’re not nerfing the RPT tho right?

[edgy oriole]

me and my child @hexed mango run the streets with trans helo and vehicles

[solid imp]

good point about RPT yeah I'm thinking more about the RM

[edgy oriole]

i havent even looked at the rpt yet

[solid imp]

but RPT is... something else if you're crouching as an Engineer

[edgy oriole]

should i use it instead of crossbow rn?

[solid imp]

👀

[edgy oriole]

[hybrid totem]

lol bot said NOPE

[solid imp]

LOL

bot blocked

[hybrid totem]

FNG lol

[rocky kraken]

i just got clipped by an ai

[solid imp]

I love the crossbow for a good laugh but RPT for sure imo as main

[rocky kraken]

just no scoped me mid air

[frosty flint]

How do you like the RPT?

[edgy oriole]

i like to do anti meta kits. but sometimes i turn into a menace and abuse meta

[hybrid totem]

I've found a new way to run the panther, it's so nice

[edgy oriole]

[frosty flint]

I'm not so sure I like the RPT, feels like a bad copy of the LCMG and Avancys

[hybrid totem]

sit and wait just out of sight, then when they least expect you, POUNCE

[solid imp]

If you're an engineer the RPT is amazing, so you get that crouch/prone class bonus on LMG

[frosty flint]

Hmmm...

[wide shore]

Personally I think my stats are okay. But I play very slowly usually. I mean I push flags, and revive and heal a lot. Especially since the class rework

So my KPM is pretty low.

[hybrid totem]

KPM is hardly the measure of a good bf player, especially with this iteration

[edgy oriole]

my kpm is bottom of the barrel

[hybrid totem]

Assists per minute is very relevant in this game

[solid imp]

See that's the thing about BF, KD means next to nothing for 75% of the classes

[hybrid totem]

As is flag captures

[solid imp]

I love it

[edgy oriole]

i have more assists than kills bc people still my kills

[hybrid totem]

Nah, you prime the enemy for death

[wide shore]

I miss assist counts as kill so much

[solid imp]

"I rattle their cage, you clean them up"

[edgy oriole]

i get robbed

[rocky bear]

me when i sit in a hind

[solid imp]

nah I think it's probably more rare to have more kills than assists given the wide range of methods you can get assists vs methods of getting kills

[rocky bear]

spots count as assists dont they

[indigo quest]

Lf ppl to play BF2042 on the PS5

[solid imp]

repair assist, damage assist, smoke assist, spot assist

vs.... use bullets

lol

[rocky bear]

#lfg-playstation

[wide shore]

I got quite a bit more kills than assists

[edgy oriole]

i do ggot the q key keybinded on my mouse

[rocky bear]

really?

[solid imp]

ok ok fine go ahead and prove me wrong that fast... see if I carte

*care

[indigo quest]

All that matters is REVIVES, OBJECTIVES and kd

[solid imp]

No that's all wrong

This is it

pog stat

[edgy oriole]

from what ive seen on the top layer and middle layer of players is they have more kills than assist

[indigo quest]

If yall a sweat, than this is what matters to me. Thats how i can make a judge if someone is good or bad

[hybrid totem]

this is still my favorite stat

[wide shore]

Gotta agree on that.

[hybrid totem]

oh right no images

top 0.1% of roadkillers

[solid imp]

😄

[edgy oriole]

there is a guy on NAE or NAW that has a username that is onlyrevive or no shoot (or something similar) and does only revives.

[solid imp]

that's a good one actually, I'm sure I've gotten mad at you at least once

[hybrid totem]

I really ought to go for the tuktuk mastery

[wide shore]

I always get mad at being roadkilled. I swear I can never hear vehicles when they’re right behind me

[solid imp]

it's your type that prompted me to switch entirely to AT Mines for a long time

[hybrid totem]

also top 2% of objective time is a good one

[wide shore]

I can hear a car from a mile away in this game. But for some reason when they’re about to hit me I hear absolutely nothin

[edgy oriole]

in all my time in the game. i have yet to get a tank mine kill

[hybrid totem]

ooh lol well I'm always glad to get people to shake up their game

[solid imp]

You gonna cluster mine me with your Bolte? I'll mine you with my angry frisbee

[edgy oriole]

reminds me of launch when you can hear someone proning 200m away but couldnt hear someone dead sprinting right next to you.

[solid imp]

footsteps have come a long way from launch day lol

[arctic grove]

Finally

I guess i cant type my stats

[solid imp]

You can't type 35 lines of text in a wall, no

[hybrid totem]

Have you tried being a regular first

it takes a while though, I don't even remember how long I've been here

[edgy oriole]

took me 11 months

of talking everyday

in this chat only

[wide shore]

I imagine I’d have it by now if I didn’t say the angry German word talking about BFV a few months ago.

[arctic grove]

#stats message My stats

Its bad

[red harness]

Does anyone know the last time bf5 went on sale on Xbox for a price?

Or like what price was it at the time of the sale

[edgy oriole]

[arctic grove]

idk i think last month

[red harness]

How much was it

[arctic grove]

9,99

[red harness]

Thanks for responding

[hybrid totem]

KD 0.6 (top 90%)
lol

[arctic grove]

for standard DONT GET THE DEFINTIVE

[red harness]

Yea ik

What does definitive get you

[arctic grove]

just dumb skins

[red harness]

Oh yea fuk that

[arctic grove]

i have em they are not worth it

[wide shore]

Yeah the skins aren’t worth it either.

[red harness]

Idgaf about skins

[arctic grove]

bf1 revoultion you can get if you want

[edgy oriole]

bfv christmas skins were the best

[red harness]

Is it on sale?

[hybrid totem]

ahhhh non bf2042 talk

[red harness]

For Xbox

[arctic grove]

let me see

[hybrid totem]

ahhhhhh try #battlefield-legacy-titles

[red harness]

Where do you go to see it

[edgy oriole]

you know we couldve had a christmas skin tank

[arctic grove]

you wanna order online with disk or microsft store

[edgy oriole]

but we got chinese new year gun instead

[red harness]

Microsoft store

Like Xbox

[arctic grove]

ok wait

its on sale

only a bit tho

[red harness]

It’s $20 right

[arctic grove]

uhh

no

4 bucks less it says

[red harness]

I can’t get into the Xbox website for some reason

But do you know if the $10 sale for bf5 was on Xbox or steam

[arctic grove]

What currecny you paying in

Euros,Dollars?

[red harness]

Dollars @arctic grove

[arctic grove]

you can get it for 35 in Dollars but in amazon its cheaper

[red harness]

If I get it on Amazon is it like a disc or something

[arctic grove]

yes

theres one for 10 bucks

[red harness]

I’ve never had a disc before but is it the same thing just in a physical form

[arctic grove]

What console do you have

[red harness]

Xbox 1

[arctic grove]

Ok then it def will work

[red harness]

How about the series x

[arctic grove]

Yes#

[red harness]

Ok great

[arctic grove]

doesnt matter if it says xb1

i think you will easily know how to use it

[red harness]

When bf5 was on sale though like you said, was it for Xbox or steam?

[arctic grove]

Xbox

[red harness]

Ooooh

[arctic grove]

DOnt do steam

[red harness]

Wel yea that’s for pc

[arctic grove]

pc bfv is full of hackers

[red harness]

Oh damn

[arctic grove]

every lobby is filled

[red harness]

Either way I’m not getting that bc my friends use Xbox

[arctic grove]

highly reccomend xbox

[red harness]

Even though my Xbox one is a hand me down from a friend it’s old

And my pc is new I just built it 😭

[arctic grove]

BFV is on XB1 and is compatible with Xbox Series

disks will not work with the Xbox series S

[red harness]

Alright I’ll tell my friends and see if they wanna just get discs

[arctic grove]

ok then

[red harness]

Thanks for all the help, appreciate it fr

[arctic grove]

No problem im just a lazy ass man who has nothing to do right now

[wraith plover]

Hi everyone. I own my gtx 1060 3 gb version of my GPU drive. Since i tried to use my command pannel to play with battlefield 2042 settings for an example, i wrote a code xyz 0; and then the system return me win32:false. Is there a way for me to enable the command i wanted to use so it wont show **false **again ?

[arctic grove]

i got brain freeze reading that

[wraith plover]

sorry 😅

[red harness]

@arctic grove where did you see the disc for series x

I only checked now and it looks Like it’s only for Xbox one

[arctic grove]

there isnt is should say Xbox one but it will work for xbsx

so even if you get a xbox one disk it will work on you xbox series

[red harness]

So it says battlefield 5- Xbox one

[arctic grove]

yes

[red harness]

But it still works for series x?

[arctic grove]

yes

[wraith plover]

basicly my command doesnt wanna work ingame console pannel

[arctic grove]

mate idk i just started playing on pc bf2042

i mainly play on xbox

[red harness]

WWW

[wraith plover]

no worries

[arctic grove]

i feel like IT support

[wraith plover]

maybe u are

[arctic grove]

Im ex military

so.

[wraith plover]

oh, i mean , they prob have IT people as well

[arctic grove]

lol probs not but you can think that way

[red harness]

@arctic grove If I had progress from BF5 on an EA access membership, will the progress transfer to the disc

Asking for a friend

[edgy oriole]

there is no crossplay or cross progression on bfv.

[arctic grove]

https://vt.tiktok.com/ZS8oCL1Ed/

Man I’ve only just started sniping I hate sniping in games

But

Bolt action seems to be g

Really fun

[red harness]

I mean getting the Xbox one disc from Amazon and connecting my Xbox account to it with progress from having the game with EA pass

[gloomy latch]

whens da next 2x weekend

[hexed mango]

fr 🥱

[edgy oriole]

depends if you have bfv progress on ea xbox one pass. bc there is different tiers between playstation, xbox and pc ea pass

[red harness]

Yea it’s Xbox series x EA pass but Xbox one or series x shouldn’t make a difference right

[full finch]

What are you trying to achieve?

[red harness]

No im@wondering if the progress from Xbox series x transfers to the disc

It’s using Xbox accounts right

Ok

[wraith plover]

I want a game to accept my command, i gave it via command pannel "~". Instand, it returned me win32 result: false

[full finch]

What command? You can only enter certain premade commands in there that we've decided to ship the game with. You can't program in there.

[wraith plover]

From an example PostProcess.ScreenSpaceGlobalIlluminationEnable 0, doesnt work

I only want to set my settings via commands, since the game doesnt have it in settings.

[meager girder]

Battlefield 2042

[rocky bear]

what is it

i dont get it

[meager girder]

Bruh

you could just hack 😂💀

[rocky bear]

this does not sound like it will work as you think it will

[meager girder]

nah it’s trash

Condors are so bad it’s cringe

Nope

Most players wouldn’t even notice ironically

The skill gap is so low anyone can fry

They added an AR lazerbeam and a one shot secondary

[hybrid totem]

I played against that dude once. I was not impressed

Despite complaining about everything

[meager girder]

Yup

😂

[hybrid totem]

Talkin' to slick fingers here

[meager girder]

Nah way

[full finch]

Did you set it to 1?

[hybrid totem]

no I played against MajinYTV

[full finch]

So "PostProcess.ScreenSpaceGlobalIlluminationEnable 1"

[meager girder]

😂

Will devs nerf robo dog health?

[full finch]

We've done this like 4 times

[hybrid totem]

It's already half of what it was a tlaunch

[meager girder]

Bruh

It’s aids rn

[hybrid totem]

But you want it to die to a couple bullets, I bet

[full finch]

Personally, I'd set the health to 1 imo, but that's not up to me lol

[meager girder]

nah it does

Most robo dogs are better than average players

[hybrid totem]

Damn, here I was hoping that the dev team at least had a united vision for their product

[meager girder]

I’d rather have 4 robo dogs with me than 4 players stacking on me

[full finch]

Sorry but when you have over 500 employees, not everyone will have the same opinion about the robodogs health.

[meager girder]

lmao

I mean it’s sad cus it’s literally a crutch

[onyx jolt]

will we be able to name our squads?

[meager girder]

It’s literally someone to stack on you

free stacker

there literally is no downside

[neon igloo]

Way to balanced. It will take me a year to max it at this rate. I am happy if I get one kill per day.

[meager girder]

should have grinded it earlier

[hybrid totem]

Oh see I thought you were basically saying there should be no robodog

[neon igloo]

I should have.

[naive quiver]

Bring metro map back please dice @full finch

[meager girder]

they just need to make it so you can spawn in as a robo dog

that would be balanced

[neon igloo]

Lol exo armor

[naive quiver]

how it’s too late

[neon igloo]

I would go for less health on the dog but more acc and dam

[naive quiver]

Year 2 supported was confirmed too

[wraith plover]

If im getting this right. Putting numer 1 will result in true, and number 0 in **false **state every time, right after i type my commands in ?

[full finch]

Correct.

[full finch]

Should I make the executive decision?

Well, I can't.

[rocky kraken]

can you make robo dog humanoid

giga chad dog

[full finch]

Thanks 🥳

[full burrow]

dont forget tho its a live service executive decision so it takes 4 times longer but delivers less content

[rocky kraken]

Colonel baby for president

[wraith plover]

I think i now get it. Thanks for help

[full finch]

No worries! Good luck!

[rocky kraken]

just make dozers rework a mech

[radiant prism]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/850376380822323230/1101934178032963744/dozer_pet.gif

[rocky kraken]

sounds good to me

[hybrid totem]

I mean really, if we were gonna ask DICE to make a new map, why on earth would it be metro

[rocky kraken]

agreed

[radiant prism]

Right?

[rocky kraken]

half the maps are basically metro

on breakthrough

[radiant prism]

I’d rather we get new stuff anyways

[rocky kraken]

Shanghai wouldnt be bad

[radiant prism]

Old content is boring

[rocky kraken]

or golmud railroad

[radiant prism]

I want stuff we haven’t seen before

[meager girder]

Nuketown maybe?

[rocky kraken]

i agree

nuketown :3

[hybrid totem]

Now I keep saying that bf4 metro where they opened the streets above and buildings on both sides, that would be super dope.

But FUUUUUCK infantry only metro

[full finch]

Dust 2 with lots of jets and tanks

[rocky kraken]

i dont know what the maps called but its the urban map on bf1

[radiant prism]

It sounds like the S5 map will be somewhat like an older map but I’d imagine it’ll be newer

[rocky kraken]

Csgo map

yes

[radiant prism]

Shipment

Fuck it, just 10’x10’ box

[rocky kraken]

ayo can we get a ranger variant that shoots missiles

🙂

[radiant prism]

Actually wait no that’s just metro nvm

[quiet shell]

Im surprised the robodog doesnt look more like the boston dynamics robodog

[rocky kraken]

make robodog revive

does cpr

360 no scopes the enemy

give ranger rpg

[radiant prism]

I would be down for Robodog revives

[rocky kraken]

give robodog jet pack

Give robodog red eyes of pure hell

Give robodog tbag capability

[hybrid totem]

pearl market would be nice, if they added more vehicles

[gusty needle]

support dog with meds and ammo

[rocky kraken]

Give robodog automatic trashtalk after killing sometone

Give robodog stilts

[hybrid totem]

it would be bigger

but a dense urban map

[rocky kraken]

Give robodog ability that smacks people with a metal bone

[gusty needle]

just remake dawnbreaker

[radiant prism]

Remakes should quite frankly stay in portal

[rocky kraken]

agreed

[gusty needle]

i cant believe what they did to Valparaiso

[rocky kraken]

whats teh probability that dice announces 2042's end with s5 trailer

nawwww

valpariso mesh is crazeeee

looks like roblox

[gusty needle]

they added that second village and it ruined it for me

especially tdm

[onyx jolt]

0 imo

[radiant prism]

It could go either way if you ask me

I’d love more 2042 content ofc, but I just don’t know if it’s in the cards

[gusty needle]

ofc its not

[hybrid totem]

announcing the end would mean no one would buy it anymore. More likely they just let it fade with less and less content

[rocky kraken]

the game is just getting out of beta :0

[gusty needle]

no more portal updates

[rocky kraken]

eehhhhh

squad management brings it out of beta imo

[onyx jolt]

they don't even have squad management in yet so me for it is still a beta 100%

[rocky kraken]

and when hourglass rework coems

[gusty needle]

is dice finally introducing tier 1 skins to vault weapons btw?

[rocky kraken]

then they realistically should just put 2 maps out per season after season 5 if they were to continue

[gusty needle]

like was that confirmed? or is it still just the level skins

[rocky kraken]

no

[radiant prism]

Idk about T1

They didn’t mention

[rocky kraken]

i think only unviersals as of right now

[radiant prism]

Did they?

Ok

[gusty needle]

are tier 1 skins universal tho?

[rocky kraken]

no

universals are called universals

[radiant prism]

No

[rocky kraken]

t1 are per wep

same as store skins

[radiant prism]

T1 skins are all called the same thing but they function differently to the other skins

[gusty needle]

ik that

[radiant prism]

Because they actually change the gun’s model

[gusty needle]

kill unlock vs level unlock

[radiant prism]

As opposed to being recolors

[rocky kraken]

idk if its just me

but do some animations feel jank to anyone else

sometimes they just break

[gusty needle]

yeah they do

[rocky kraken]

i hope they get a fix for that

[gusty needle]

thats typical of bf games tho

[rocky kraken]

i mean

not really or not as bad as 2042 nearly

[gusty needle]

you never pushed the other games to their limits then

[rocky kraken]

or i just didnt notice as much

[gusty needle]

i dont think ive ever had a normal reload in bf4

[rocky kraken]

somtimes when vaulting my entire arm goes in fron tof my camera

its annoying

[gusty needle]

thats normal of bf games

[rocky kraken]

hm

[gusty needle]

dice add slithering

[rocky kraken]

interesting

thought it would have to do with the new animation thing they did

with motion cap

[radiant prism]

That’s just the window break animation

[gusty needle]

^

[rocky bear]

dice add fligerfaust main gun on wildcat

[gusty needle]

sometimes plays when window is broken (its clientside)

[rocky kraken]

hope they go back to seperate animations for 1st and third

instead of the same

so its more polished

[gusty needle]

i just want tier 1 on all my guns

i unlocked them all i should have them all ):

[rocky kraken]

i have like

lemme check

[gusty needle]

all i dont have are 93r, type 88, and grach

[rocky kraken]

13 t1ed

[gusty needle]

im burnt out so im doing other shit. also type 88 sucks

[radiant prism]

I’m currently unable to play but I’m really close to getting both the A-91 and the Rorsch to T1

[gusty needle]

a-91 was a dream

i loved it when i used it

[radiant prism]

It’s a sleeper hit

[rocky kraken]

anyone else feel like a ttk update is needed

[gusty needle]

yeah

[radiant prism]

Nah

[rocky kraken]

kills are too fast most of the tiem

[gusty needle]

every gun in the game needs a rework imo

[radiant prism]

I don’t mind fast kills

[gusty needle]

rof and damage changes

[rocky kraken]

well the problem with it is

[gusty needle]

fast kills arent a thing in this game

its like 280-300ms ttk

[rocky kraken]

no reaction time is possible

you just get beamed

[gusty needle]

i feel the opposite

[rocky kraken]

theres no mechanics

[gusty needle]

oh the beamed part yea

[rocky kraken]

what

theres like zero dispersion

its bad

[gusty needle]

yeah ik

[radiant prism]

🍿

[rocky kraken]

advancys cough

ooof

each new gun adds another layer of fuckery

[gusty needle]

what dice needs to do is rebalance them. no reason every gun should fire fast and be a pea shooter

like drop the sfar rof down to like 600 and make it a 3 hit kill up to 20m or some shit, idk

get creative

dont crutch on fast rof

[radiant prism]

Only guns I would say actually need reworks are the RM68 and the MCS-880

[gusty needle]

honestly

[fervent rose]

the sfar is a 600 rof gun. and it doesnt need any buffs lmao

[rocky kraken]

rm68 might be the most broken weapon in the franchise

[jagged yacht]

I'm at 980 points out of 1150 to the badge

[gusty needle]

it needs a damage rework

[rocky kraken]

super 500 is broken

lol

[robust aspen]

Cool detail if you crouch and open a door it opens slowly and quietly, if you stand and open, it opens quick and loudly

[radiant prism]

Nah, there’s some BF1 guns that take the cake there

[fervent rose]

launch bsvm was worse but rm68 is hilarious

[gusty needle]

rm68 is just 2 hit kill moments

[fervent rose]

bsvm did that too out to 150

1 body 1 head

it was insane

[gusty needle]

yea

but it didnt have 700rpm

idk tho, every gun feels the same

[fervent rose]

much easier to hit 1 body 1 head than 2 tapping headshots, rof being lower didnt matter

[gusty needle]

theyre all just recoilless pea shooters that fire way too fast

[robust vapor]

I t1ed VCAR and BSVM. BSVM is stronk

[gusty needle]

and what the fuck does 'firepower' even mean

[fervent rose]

the 2042 guns are absolutely not "pea shooters"

[upper kite]

Anyone out there switch to keyboard and mouse spend countless hours retraining your brain for those inputs then hope in a plane or helicopter and crash constantly .....just me ok lol

[rocky kraken]

hoenstly

type 88 is really good

just got it and it shreds

[gusty needle]

its definitely not

[rocky kraken]

idk man

things a laser

[gusty needle]

ok now get 1100 kills with it and realize how horrible its accuracy is compared to everything else in the game

[rocky kraken]

so funny runnign with lmgs in this game

[fervent rose]

practice in solo if you keep crashing

[rocky kraken]

the almost non existent weapon sway is crazy

its jarring

[fervent rose]

eventually you'll stop crashing as much

[gusty needle]

and what i mean by peashooters is like 6+ shots to kill

i get way too many hitmarkers and the guns fire way too fast

like if dice just turned the rof back a bit we wouldnt need to hit that many shots

[fervent rose]

well the scar and rm 4 shot out to very generous ranges

[radiant prism]

Are you sniping with an SMG or something?

[fervent rose]

the m16 can 5 to 75m

[gusty needle]

yeah and thats a problem

[fervent rose]

the guns arent pea shooters

[radiant prism]

[gusty needle]

they also need to be reworked, but those are literally 2 guns out of like 100

[rocky kraken]

every gun in the game is "good"

cant name a bad one tbh

[gusty needle]

pf51

[rocky kraken]

some are just better than others

[fervent rose]

acw-r is wack

[rocky kraken]

that gun was good

[radiant prism]

MCS-880

[gusty needle]

acwr

[rocky kraken]

mcs is good

[gusty needle]

mcs

[fervent rose]

mcs is inconsistent as fuck

[rocky kraken]

idk what people on

[upper kite]

@fervent rose sad part I did can't get gud I pick up a controller and easy peasy, but switching everytime is annoying lol

[gusty needle]

mcs is dogshit

[rocky kraken]

its incosisntent

but when its not

[gusty needle]

tho that may actually be the result of bullet inertia and not the gun

[rocky kraken]

when hit reg works

[robust vapor]

ghostmaker is good