battlefield-2042

[wide shore]

Gotta T1 it before the nerf

[arctic grove]

Only a smart player would use it for AA

[hallow sierra]

same

[wise zodiac]

Let's also not antagonize this any further, please.

[arctic grove]

Well considering going back to BFV and older and feeling how AA responds there (plus general sensitivities and input as well) it is indeed the game

[wise zodiac]

Drop it please, I don't want to have to go further than me asking you to stop.

[willow sky]

is it weird that im waiting for the nerf to actually start using it?

[arctic grove]

Rotational aim assist is absolutely too strong tho

[fiery shoal]

well those games didnt have to concern itself with how balanced their AA was vs mnk

[solemn shore]

get t1 glock

[fiery shoal]

so yea.. also not a fair comparison

[wide shore]

But the shorty is so fun

[arctic grove]

Even BFV AA responsiveness in 2042 would’ve been perfectly balanced lol

[cedar nexus]

I'm the same way with unbalanced stuff.

[fiery shoal]

idk what it felt like since i dont play console, so no comment on that front

[willow sky]

truly we are the chads of the field 🤝

[wide shore]

Aim assist at launch in 2042 was basically non-existent. It is a lot better now but still a far cry from past titles.

[sweet hemlock]

you got it. do you think we can make it battlefield cultural etiquette to not stream snipe streamers tho

[radiant prism]

Enders is raging about you on stream now LMAO

[fiery shoal]

lol figured

[arctic grove]

• I can’t see 2042 AA acting like a bubble (this is really bad for flicks and consistent tracking), and how only snap AA occasionally works being the result of balancing and not the games input from the get go still being awful

[radiant prism]

Tuned in and its the first thing I hear him say

[gritty tapir]

using the rail gun tank in breakthrough as attackers lmfao. lol even

[fiery shoal]

ill avoid giving him another viewer

[oblique mortar]

[radiant prism]

yeah fair

hey Quags

[wise zodiac]

Here's the thing; we only handle the stuff that happens inside this discord server.

[limber igloo]

[cedar nexus]

It should be just the general gaming etiquette to not stream snipe.... or you know, common sense.

[elfin coral]

just go the og mw2 route where if everything is broken then nothing is

[arctic grove]

One man army moment

[fiery shoal]

ill be the reasonable person and not let meaningless things (in this case a person) negatively affect my day @radiant prism

[radiant prism]

I targeted, yes. Didn't stream snipe.

[willow sky]

LMAO, god i miss the og mw2

[radiant prism]

Hey that makes two of us

[sweet hemlock]

i know. but lets all just chime in and help support better behavior

[radiant prism]

Thats enough of that for today

[fiery shoal]

not a hard thing to do...

[elfin coral]

buff everything that's not currently broken and there

all balanced

[quaint vector]

We are not EA/DICE employees

We are Mods for Discord so we can't take any actions ingame. We only take care of this Discord and what's happening here.

[night terrace]

Why be Toxic

[fiery shoal]

buff pp29

[radiant prism]

Because I had a feeling something like this would happen

[quaint vector]

[radiant prism]

Frankly, it got my team the win so I'll take it

[arctic grove]

In the case of 2042 hypothetically speaking, I imagine the AK24 would have like, 1 less bullet to kill but more recoil or something lol

[radiant prism]

Frankly, he's been FAR more toxic to me than I've been to him

[fiery shoal]

its ironic he is questioning you about being toxic.. in defense of enders...

[radiant prism]

I have screenshots of everything he sent me after it happened

And for his sake I won't post them

[wise zodiac]

That also starts with not flaring tempers, and listening to staff direction when it's given.

We can only deescalate the situation when y'all listen.

When y'all don't, we have to get more involved & mute/remove people, and we don't want to do that.

[radiant prism]

Unless yall test me

[fiery shoal]

2+2=?

[radiant prism]

ah SHIT

[wise zodiac]

The answer is fish.

[radiant prism]

Well I know this

[night terrace]

Maybe players should target you

[wise zodiac]

But hey, like I said, I'd appreciate it if everyone can drop it and move forward.

[radiant prism]

Next time I see him in game, I won't open his stream in the background

[arctic grove]

I completely randomly matched up with him and he was in my squad not too long ago

[wise zodiac]

@radiant prism @fiery shoal, let's follow my instructions on this please.

[quaint vector]

So yall ready for Season 5 and new Vault Weapon attachments.?

Also new Content

Battle Pass

[arctic grove]

2042 attachments on m16 is gonna be so fire

[quaint vector]

Maybe Mid-Season Event in Season 5...?👀

[night terrace]

when you antagonize someone you are the problem just saying

[wide shore]

Definitely excited to see the new map. And the hourglass change

[gritty tapir]

i just want permanent rush xl

[wise zodiac]

😐😐😐😐😐

[gilded spindle]

Hourglass change is going to be fire.

[wide shore]

Let’s hope

[radiant prism]

Sorry, whose fans have been pinging me over three deaths for the past hour? Who's antagonizing who here?

[wise zodiac]

This whole thing about dropping it and moving forward includes you too, @night terrace

[radiant prism]

Who's still talking about it an hour later?

[wise zodiac]

@radiant prism, I got it.

[radiant prism]

Im done. Im gonna get off now, DM me if you wanna talk, Im an open book.

[elfin coral]

@radiant prism where's the lore reason for some of the sights having wifi and cellular service?

[radiant prism]

Post it in Enders server too, I know yall are watching it

[radiant prism]

https://tenor.com/view/future-squidward-spongebob-gif-4767609

[quaint vector]

Hourglass will have new underground ways, so I'm excited about that.

[wide shore]

Hopefully they go into the arena

[wise zodiac]

I haven't played since S2.

[dusky compass]

https://www.reddit.com/r/battlefield2042/comments/137zvvw/why_not/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web2x&context=3

[wise zodiac]

I know nothing about this game anymore, because it was soooo bad.

[elfin coral]

season 4's soundtrack is the best soundtrack for this game so far hands down

[quaint vector]

Give it a try in S5

[night terrace]

Bye PTFO player

[wide shore]

Not a huge accomplishment tbf

[arctic grove]

This is actually a thing on the vortex NGSW fc sight

[warm zealot]

Hourglass should be figuratively nuked from existence before the rework drops

[elfin coral]

fair but i liked orbital's theme as well as manifest and exposure and discarded

[warm zealot]

Just pull it from the rotation

[arctic grove]

One sight has a built in battery and rangefinder which is a thing on that scope

Really cool stuff

[warm zealot]

Stop gathering telemetry

[wise zodiac]

Also, it looks like you just joined the server today, @night terrace, so I'll encourage you to read the rules of the server to avoid further incidents.

[elfin coral]

and the last part of hourglasse's theme

[wide shore]

I think the main theme is good. But most of the soundtrack sounds like a mess of sounds

[warm zealot]

They don't know how to use it well anyways

[arctic grove]

Orbital, renewal, exposure, manifest all have really good in game soundtracks

[granite island]

I like renewal end of round theme

[vagrant pebble]

Can’t we all just be friends?

[night terrace]

How about doing your job and ban toxic players

[elfin coral]

i can't wait to watch [redacted] with those sights

[arctic grove]

Hourglass also has a cool theme imo

[quaint vector]

BF1 had best soundtracks...🫡

[arctic grove]

[arctic grove]

Hands down

[wise zodiac]

I mean, if you want that...

[arctic grove]

I have literally listened to the bf1 soundtrack while studying, top notch production

Fort de vaux and heligoland bight themes >>>>

[elfin coral]

did you know when they tried to do testing with gear for the army some odd years ago they scrapped it because soldiers were doing exactly that

[wise zodiac]

Also, we only handle things inside the discord server. We don't handle game issues. =]

[elfin coral]

[arctic grove]

I had no idea but that’s funny as hell

[wide shore]

[arctic grove]

The MCX Spear seems like quite the gun to give grunts too now that I think about it

[night terrace]

Yeah not so great here too classic Dice

[arctic grove]

This server is community ran tho

[radiant prism]

Give em time, they just joined lol

They'll figure it out eventually

[torpid wadi]

Better bulk up or get out

[elfin coral]

well not just that but also because the usual bureaucratic stuff and budget going over like every other project

[chilly jacinth]

doubt theyll stay

[wide shore]

Great way to avoid communities you don’t like, is not engage at all.

[radiant prism]

Guess I shoulda let Enders kill me

[slow tulip]

Hardline vs BF2042, which is worse

[elfin coral]

2042

[chilly jacinth]

bf5

[elfin coral]

that too

[torpid wadi]

Hardline is great

[willow sky]

the beat drop when u start on flashpoint 😳

[night terrace]

Just play the game like normal and don't target players

[slow tulip]

I said BF2042 vs Hardline

[wise zodiac]

I'm not a DICE employee. I'm a player.

[chilly jacinth]

i chose bf5

cause i can

[elfin coral]

thank you someone says it

[wide shore]

2042>Hardline

[slow tulip]

Better than bf2042?

[elfin coral]

yes

from a technical standpoint

[radiant prism]

I normally do! I just happened to see someone with whom I've interacted with in the past and thought it would be funny to give em the old shield treatment

[torpid wadi]

I prefer hardline over all the battlefields i’ve played

[elfin coral]

[radiant prism]

Now I've been getting DMd for an hour straight

[arctic grove]

Hardline probably wasn’t that bad, it’s just not thematically interesting like other titles

[radiant prism]

Including by the man himself

[livid swift]

at least Hardline knew what it wanted to be. 2042 is not a love letter :))

[leaden pendant]

Hardline is functional

[arctic grove]

I don’t know though since I never played it for that same reason

[torpid wadi]

Expect me too baby 😘😘

[radiant prism]

Who has called me a number of disgusting names

[elfin coral]

but i like cops and robbers tho

[radiant prism]

Please, go ahead

[elfin coral]

[wide shore]

But I gotta give Hardline credit for reviving grand bazaar though

[radiant prism]

I love how fast he noticed too, like it really set him off that much

Within minutes he was DMing me about it

[torpid wadi]

Spies in all corners of the galaxy

[radiant prism]

Had to have it open in another tab

[wise zodiac]

@radiant prism, probably be better off reporting & blocking them.

[slow tulip]

BF5 vs BF2042, which is worse?

[tardy patrol]

2042

[slow tulip]

BF2042 is the winner

[chilly jacinth]

bf5

[torpid wadi]

BfV is also very fun

[wise zodiac]

BF1

[quaint vector]

Every BF game has +/-

[wise zodiac]

[slow tulip]

so BF2042 sucks

[elfin coral]

5

[gritty tapir]

bf4 sucks

[elfin coral]

[torpid wadi]

https://tenor.com/view/mujikcboro-seriymujik-gif-24361533

[wise zodiac]

BF1 sucks.

[slow tulip]

BF4 vs BF2042, which is worse

[torpid wadi]

Fr though

[slow tulip]

BF2042 took the lead anyway

[quaint vector]

[wide shore]

How dare you

[wise zodiac]

Oh no

[tardy patrol]

Atleast bf1 was a video game

[wide shore]

[torpid wadi]

Only reason i would occasionally play 1 is for the martini and the 1895

[wise zodiac]

I mean, 2042 is a video game too

[arctic grove]

BF1 genuinely had the best executed post launch content with Operations and how it all covered WW1

Mechanically BFV is a major improvement but it is an underwhelming game to the experience that is Battlefield 1

[tardy patrol]

No it’s not

[slow tulip]

BF1 had a better launch than Bf2042

BF1 kept the legacy of battlefield

[tardy patrol]

It’s a audio visual product in a video game engine

[wise zodiac]

It is, though. You play it on a console/PC, you use a controller or m&kb.

[quaint vector]

2042 is not a game... Is it a movie then..

[wise zodiac]

It's a literal game.

[calm bison]

Ok so the RM-68 is still blatantly OP

[torpid wadi]

It’s a visual experience

[slow tulip]

Ah yes, trailers were better than the actual game

[arctic grove]

BF1 was IMO the golden era for DICE, BFV could’ve done so much more with WW2 to be just as good if not better

[calm bison]

And with uniform soldier aiming it seems to have gotten worse

[quaint vector]

It will be nerfed, already was said like week ago by DICE

[slow tulip]

BF1 stories were memorable

[calm bison]

Also after completing a shitload of challenges I jumped like 4 BP tiers

[torpid wadi]

I will forever ree that they didn’t give us the eastern front

[gritty tapir]

i hope it gets nerfed into the ground

[torpid wadi]

I want a goddamn mosin

[wet spoke]

are servers' ping poopoo now or is it just me?

[slow tulip]

Bring back old destruction to bf2042

[calm bison]

Just you

[arctic grove]

That’s why I’m disappointed with it. Plus politics concerning how DICE handled it

[wet spoke]

200+

everythin else be normal tho

[calm bison]

Politics = women in vidya

[slow tulip]

https://youtu.be/ASzOzrB-a9E

[karmic egret]

Yee hee hee

[torpid wadi]

They even gave a ww2 era mosin to bf1

[arctic grove]

All major factions wouldve meant so many more skins, weapons, vehicles and maps

[slow tulip]

BF5 was political, they wanted to represent the underrepresented groups

[wise zodiac]

🤨🤨🤨 let's not go too much further than that

[calm bison]

Games about wars are inherently political

[slow tulip]

Far from historical accuracy

[wise zodiac]

It's an arcade shooter

[wet spoke]

Also why tf is my BF2042 using 3mb/s speed?

[wise zodiac]

There is no historical accuracy

[cedar nexus]

If they wanted to continue V, the eastern front would of been the logical year three since the pacific was year 2, but eh

[acoustic seal]

bf5 was a downgrade in setting compared to bf1 that got simplified to "you must just hate women" so it was easier for dice to dismiss the concerns outright

[slow tulip]

But do it right

[wise zodiac]

You want historical accuracy, you want a game similar to Hell Let Loose

[cedar nexus]

Historical accuracy in a game full of prototype and WW1 weapons

[slow tulip]

COD was better

[arctic grove]

Yeah basically, like I have absolutely nothing against them, but dice pulled some bullshit that was unnecessary

[torpid wadi]

Historical accuracy be damned, let me use a 4x on my mg42

[elfin coral]

bf1 was interesting as it went with a setting no one really touched

[calm bison]

I for one am actually kinda happy we didn’t get the Eastern Front. Too much commieboo circlejerking

[torpid wadi]

I would kick ass if they let me have that

[slow tulip]

BF1 did a better job than bf5

[arctic grove]

There’s a suspension of disbelief with historical representation. I could care less about the nydar sights. That’s there for gameplay purposes

[gritty tapir]

saying bf5 was bad and then going and saying cod did it better is hilarious

[calm bison]

Here is what BF1 has over BFV - immershun

[royal swan]

And had one of the best atmospheric maps ever

[calm bison]

That’s it

[torpid wadi]

They can circlejerk all they want, i just want the guns

[elfin coral]

i don't want another european map

[slow tulip]

EA said don't like it, don't buy it. Best advice ever

[elfin coral]

that's been done to death

give me the pacific

[arctic grove]

If that’s it, then I argue that BF1s theme, immersion and atmosphere makes it so much more consistent and fun to play

[calm bison]

But like that’s the most obvious statement ever

[arctic grove]

I get bored mid match with BFV

[calm bison]

It’s like saying grass is green

[wise zodiac]

6x, take it or leave it.

[elfin coral]

V peaked with the pacific introduction

[arctic grove]

A lot of maps flow slow in that game, breakthrough tends to be snipers and sector artillery spam till attackers lose tickets lol

[acoustic seal]

i took patrick soderlund's advice and i'm going to do it again now that he's working on the finals and it sucks the same way

[torpid wadi]

Oh i’ll bloody take it

[calm bison]

IDK, playing on Wake Island CQ with the best beginning of round music this franchise has seen while I’m storming the beaches feels pretty immersive

[slow tulip]

https://youtu.be/BdI-RufsSUs

[crimson wasp]

BF1 was really good!
I didn't like the random bullet deviation on most weapons though (also behemoths, yuck)

[arctic grove]

Either way I’m not mad at BFV for not being like BF1

DICE should just give us both games strengths

That’s it

[wide shore]

BF1>Everything else

[fiery shoal]

when every bf title is different so what people prefer largely comes down to preferences

[calm bison]

When it starts raining on Twisted Steel and there are mustangs and Shermans darting around me fighting Tiger tanks it’s immersive as fuck

[slow tulip]

Why does the battlefield need a Tom Cruise

[elfin coral]

i like behemoths tho

[crimson wasp]

i didn't like the idea for rewarding the losing team

[calm bison]

Behemoths were kinda useless

[arctic grove]

Yeah basically, like every game has takeaways so I think we should just all ask for that in one game

[slow tulip]

No

Behemoths were fun

[calm bison]

They were sort of the emotional support dog of the losing team

[torpid wadi]

I really wish they brought the 1895 to V

[arctic grove]

Behemoth and elite classes were not that bad lol

[grim atlas]

They don’t all come with the same quality tho so not really

[acoustic seal]

dang wouldn't it be crazy if they left bursting to control spread in, instead of listening to the bottom of the barrel bf4 players and removing it?

[elfin coral]

it's not a reward it's a way to give the losing team emotional supoort

[arctic grove]

Gigantic damage sponges

[crimson wasp]

😄

[calm bison]

When was the last time you played a round where the enemy team won a game of CQ because of their behemoth?

[gritty tapir]

why is it that the recoil is much more pronounced when i play coop compared to regular online matches?

[arctic grove]

No, I gotta be honest here, this works in BF1, a lot of those maps were really open and BF1s restrictions forced a lot of closer quarter engagements

[calm bison]

BF1’s conquest is the worst of the franchise

[fiery shoal]

of course theres a topic of quality, but when people generally talk about a better game they are really talking about what they enjoy more. hardly anyone differentiates their preferences with objective qualities

[arctic grove]

False

Kek

[karmic egret]

WRONG

[slow tulip]

Bf1 had a far better progression system

[crimson wasp]

Operations though ❤️ 😩 👌

[arctic grove]

BFV Conquest Hamada is probably one of the worst experiences

I have ever had

[elfin coral]

once every 100 matches

[arctic grove]

Besides 2042

[karmic egret]

i dont know why we couldnt host our own operations server

[calm bison]

Considering it gives the enemy team little to no chance to bounce back and win, not to mention how long it takes to cap flags makes it unbearable

[fiery shoal]

cap, the points in the rubble were incredible

[wise zodiac]

Horses & their riders just absolutely TANKING a tank shot. Big no thanks for me.

[acoustic seal]

coop matches have a lower tickrate and recoil timing is based on ticks, that's also part of why recoil feels like shit in normal matches

[arctic grove]

[slow tulip]

Can we have a wake island map in bf2042 with naval combat

[karmic egret]

sound like a skill issue

[torpid wadi]

I’m so glad they decided not to continue with the gun variant system from 1

[crimson wasp]

used to nolife

[calm bison]

Can we not have Wake Island for one fucking minute

[arctic grove]

Holy hell that KD

Very nice

[calm bison]

I feel like everyone had their fill with BFV

[grim atlas]

They should tho, having fun is not equal to playing on a good game, and because dice is like “oh they have fun” they’re gonna keep doing games like that imo

[arctic grove]

I literally just maintain a 2.0 or something. In BF1 I think mine is 2.2

[fiery shoal]

yea i agree people should differentiate, unfortunately a lot of people are not very bright...

[calm bison]

TBF I think I am kind of a BFV shill, I have like 750 hours on the game

[gritty tapir]

damn i wish the coop recoil was in normal matches, it feels so much better

[arctic grove]

I mean that is why behemoths exist after all

[calm bison]

Except behemoths don’t help

[arctic grove]

Behemoths can absolutely get you objective advantage

[calm bison]

They’re just large paper weights that look cool

[arctic grove]

Eh

I guess if the guys who hog it up are shooting at the ants on the ground then yeah

[torpid wadi]

The blimp looked cool falling down

[karmic egret]

i ve had games where the behemoth turns the game around

[acoustic seal]

the blimp is at least a spawn point, the char 2c is a rolling brick

[calm bison]

So is the armored train

[torpid wadi]

They were all minor inconveniences at most though

[arctic grove]

Char 2c is probably the least memorable behemoth imo

[torpid wadi]

Exactly lol

[calm bison]

Also I’m gonna say it again and I’ll keep saying it

[arctic grove]

I haven’t seen it much and when I did it was just bombarded by rockets and at grenades

[calm bison]

BFV has the best tank gameplay

Of the entire battlefield franchise

[crimson wasp]

BF3 :(

[calm bison]

I will champion this until the day I die

[torpid wadi]

I like the idea but i rarely seen it

[arctic grove]

BF4 tanks are really strong but BFV tanks have a ton of customization

[kindred flint]

disgusting assault user

[calm bison]

BF4 tanks feel like go karts

[karmic egret]

one of the worst

[crimson wasp]

wooow

[torpid wadi]

Blue filter

I remember not being allowed to play that game

[crimson wasp]

BF3 was the absolute peak for me

🙏

[kindred flint]

Survivor bias tbh

[karmic egret]

I hate battlefield 3 because I never played it

[arctic grove]

Apparently the bf3 blue filter wasn’t in the game during its alpha

[karmic egret]

probably becuase I was 6 when it came out

[calm bison]

I just don’t like BF4 at the moment because it’s a bit of the community’s circlejerk

[arctic grove]

So idk why they even added it

[calm bison]

It’s so unbelievably overrated

[gritty tapir]

will the portal gun update include ammo stuff too?

[torpid wadi]

Bf4 is good because it has a compound bow

[kindred flint]

http://i.imgur.com/UEz9UMU.jpg alpha looks 10x better

[torpid wadi]

And that’s cool

[arctic grove]

BF4 is good it’s just really dated

A lot of the people still playing it are AEK or vehicle sweats

[crimson wasp]

it was blue but i liked it the most :(

[arctic grove]

It’s not nearly as casual unfortunately

[kindred flint]

my opinion of hess is at all time lows

[torpid wadi]

I would like 1 and 4 more if they weren’t circlejerked so hard

[calm bison]

I’m not saying BF4 isn’t good. It is good. But I would kill for like a week where the community doesn’t act like it’s the best thing since sliced bread

[gritty tapir]

bf4 had atrocious heli balance

[crimson wasp]

😔

[tardy tree]

i think hardline is really good

[calm bison]

Oh my god yes

Badmins everywhere

[torpid wadi]

Hardline is bloody great

God i miss that game

[tardy tree]

it was different and everyone hated it for that

[calm bison]

Hardline is great but it was destined to die

[arctic grove]

I can’t help it man, I hop into a couple games on BF1 and I have to hold back the urge to absolutely shill them

[tardy tree]

but i loved it

[calm bison]

Hell even the population on console is falling off

[crimson wasp]

you guys should really check #1077689769246593044 btw

[arctic grove]

It’s just such a fun game and amazing experience

[crimson wasp]

something new in there

:)

[tardy tree]

bfv has the best gunplay ive ever seen in a game before

besides the smgs

fuck that

[torpid wadi]

Amazing how it does that to ya

[torpid wadi]

Something bout V just feels right

Which is the opposite for me to 1

Which i had no issue with till i played 5

[tardy tree]

its the most battlefield game we've gotten since like 4

i dont like 1

the map design is awful

[kindred flint]

cash me outside with a zk bipoding all over everything to laser people

[calm bison]

Destruction in BFV is so crisp

So is the movement

[tardy tree]

fr

[wide shore]

The 4 circlejerk is much worse than 1’s tbh.

[gritty tapir]

bf5 had the best gameplay in terms of gunplay and movement

[arctic grove]

BF1 map design being awful lol

The only BF1 map that I can’t really say I like is Empires Edge

But maps flow so well in that game

[tardy tree]

eh

[calm bison]

See here’s what the community plays

And only plays

Sinai, Amiens, and Ballroom

That’s it

[kindred flint]

lets be real, BF always has a fairly good assortment of shit maps

[calm bison]

Apparently these people have no taste for the better maps

[tardy tree]

gotta love running through an open desert for 5 minutes only to be bombed by a fighter plane

[wide shore]

BF1 maps are some of the most consistently good maps

[calm bison]

I mean

[arctic grove]

Sinai objective G?

[calm bison]

Most of the Tsar DLC maps are shit

Turning Tides is pretty cool

[arctic grove]

I don’t even know why that’s in that map, but you don’t have to go to it

Disagree about the tsar maps

[torpid wadi]

Fuck that one forest map in bf1

[arctic grove]

Except Galicia

[calm bison]

Only one map in Apocalypse that plays well

And France has a decent lineup

[arctic grove]

French maps have some really good colors

[torpid wadi]

Argonne forest i think it’s called

[kindred flint]

found the dude who didnt like getting mortared constantly

[arctic grove]

And verdun heights is S tier

[arctic grove]

Argonne with the train sucks

[calm bison]

Prise De Tahure is just bad tho

It’s a bad map

[arctic grove]

…..

[torpid wadi]

That whole map sucks in every single damn way

[kindred flint]

Hey it was a fun shotgun map

[torpid wadi]

I have literally nothing good to say about that map

[gritty tapir]

amiens makes me miss urban maps, we need some in bf2042

[arctic grove]

Prise De Tahure is easy A tier, it just probably needed to be brighter

[calm bison]

On conquest it’s just a carousel of running from objective to objective

[kindred flint]

i thoroughly enjoyed abusing pre nerf mortars to cluster bomb mofos

[wide shore]

Scar, Amiens, Achi Baba, Vaux, Argonne, Passchendaele, Prise, Neville, Verdun, Zebrugge. Gahhh.

[calm bison]

Every objective feels contested in that map

[kindred flint]

What map was the blown out concrete bunker?

[sweet hemlock]

we need multiple battlefield games each with their own playstyles to make everyone happy

[kindred flint]

vaux?

[calm bison]

Yes

FDV slaps

Great map

[wide shore]

I love Fort De Vaux

[arctic grove]

Fort de vaux is like SSS+ tier

[kindred flint]

it could either be good or shit from my recollection

[arctic grove]

But it has weird spawn-camps sometimes

[calm bison]

Soissons, Nivelle, FDV, and Verdun are all S tier maps

Rupture is

[pliant wigeon]

Mortars were always such a fun thing to use

[torpid wadi]

I liked all the in the name of the czar maps

[calm bison]

Eh

It’s alright

[kindred flint]

circle capping from the enemy or just meat grinder

[torpid wadi]

That was a good dlc

[wide shore]

Prise deserves more respect.

[calm bison]

Even Tsaritsyn and Galicia?

[elfin coral]

Kaleidescope and Hourglass would like a word

[pliant wigeon]

God I've gotta re-download battlefield one lmao

[kindred flint]

Was that the pretty flower fields map?

[calm bison]

Yes

[torpid wadi]

I can’t say i disliked any of the maps

[arctic grove]

Kaleidoscope and hourglass are technically urban maps but I wish they were full urban

[kindred flint]

ngl that one was pretty visually good

same with that bfv map

[torpid wadi]

Won’t say they were all great though

[pliant wigeon]

I liked the majority of bf1's maps

[calm bison]

My two favorite maps in BF1 are Zeebrugge and Heligoland Bight

Ooh baby those maps go hard

[arctic grove]

Heligoland bight and zeebrugge are inconceivable good tier

[gritty tapir]

those dont even count with how spread out and open everything is

[wide shore]

Oh man how could I forget Somme. What a banger

[calm bison]

Somme goes hard as well

[wide shore]

Even with shitty conquest assault it’s amazing

[calm bison]

I don’t like Passchendaele

Not because of the look of the map

It looks great

[arctic grove]

Naval combat in bf1 proves how much dice cared, since I know it wasn’t easy to code

Not to mention it actually had decent implementation

[calm bison]

But it plays like shit

[kindred flint]

dude they fucking added hourglass to the 64p rotation

who the fuck thought that was a good idea

[arctic grove]

[kindred flint]

that map still plays like ass

legit was in it for like 3 mins before leaving it

[wide shore]

I haven’t had the pleasure of playing it in a while. But I remember loving it

Fao Fortress and Suez can both fuck off forever though.

[pliant wigeon]

I can't remember what map it was,all I remember was it both being set in a coastal area and having these big fuckoff cannons lmao

but god I loved it

[kindred flint]

top of tower cap points are also dumb...give more ways to ascend to there than just campable elevator doors 😔

[elfin coral]

just become Spidermckay

[calm bison]

The fortress in Fao is great

[wide shore]

Probably Heligoland if it had a beach

[calm bison]

The rest of the map isn’t

[noble scaffold]

Is the new season out? What’s laviathen rising?

[wide shore]

I remember being amazed that you can destroy the fortress. Cause it hardly ever does in most games. It takes a lot of damage to do it. But you can

[pliant wigeon]

I'm not sure. I'd be able to call it out if I saw it,but I just remember it having like these big castle ruins,being set on the coast,and having the massive coastal guns

[wide shore]

Ah. Empires Edge

[gritty tapir]

the first like two stages of st quentin operations scar was PEAK bf1

[pliant wigeon]

THANK YOU,I could not remember that for the life of me

Loved that map though

[wide shore]

Another map that features destruction that is hard to see in most matches.

You can collapse the big castle

[pliant wigeon]

That I actually did not know

That's a really cool bit of destruction

[wide shore]

There’s a few places that feature destruction but requires a heavy amount of damage

[pliant wigeon]

I remember seeing a few spots like that on the map,but iirc most of them I saw were triggered by a shell from the Dreadnought,so I didn't really think much further on them

[wide shore]

The Sinai rock bridge. The empires edge castle. The fort in the back of Monte grappa. Some of the fortress on fao. And the roofs of the ballroom on ballroom blitz. Oh and the big bridge on rupture

Yeah they take like heavy bombs to damage

[pliant wigeon]

Oh god,Ballroom Blitz

I remember that map being a lot of fun. Also remember someone managing to get a tank into the ballroom somehow

[wide shore]

Ah

My favorite trick

There was a spot on the right side of the ballroom you could slip into with the light tank

I did it ALL the time

[pliant wigeon]

hah,yeah,it was a shock seeing somebody do it the first time

[arctic grove]

Ballroom blitz was good, the only objective I didn’t like was the one after that small village at the US spawn

It’s large and doesn’t have a lot of cover for captures

[crimson wasp]

is this a good time to post about BF3

[arctic grove]

Yes

[arctic grove]

[wide shore]

My stats for BF3 are ass

[arctic grove]

123 kill kill streak

[crimson wasp]

never reached 200k kills :(

[torpid wadi]

Ah good times be damned, you force that conversation through

[wide shore]

But I loved that game

Even playing the inferior console version

[arctic grove]

I kinda wanna play bf3 now

It’s just old so hit reg is wonky

[crimson wasp]

20hz server wonk

[wide shore]

I went back on it before 2042 launched and had a 120 kill game

That’s a lot for me

[crimson wasp]

you be gaming

[wide shore]

You can really see my progression looking at my stats over the years

[karmic egret]

what hz servers did BF3 run

[crimson wasp]

20ish

afaik

[karmic egret]

bruh

[crimson wasp]

i kinda had to stop playing BF3 since i ran out of servers where im not banned

sad times

[karmic egret]

LMOA

[kindred flint]

stop swearing in the christian servers smh

legit banned from some locker servers because of that

[wide shore]

It’s kinda weird that my highest killstreak in both BF1 and BFV are 47

[mental delta]

Skill issue

[crimson wasp]

forever proud of this one
https://streamable.com/p3s5ha

[wide shore]

Awh BC2 stats doesn’t have an Xbox option

I’ve never done a rendezook

[karmic egret]

playing BF1 with all the noises whilst listening to carribean queen

[lean horizon]

I still want tsunamis

[karmic egret]

cool in theory terrible in reality

[lean horizon]

gave us an insane rocket thats dope but i want some sort of flooding map like bf4

[arctic grove]

2042s theme makes a flood zone 2.0 type map reasonable anyways

[karmic egret]

bro that would be so annoying

[arctic grove]

Unfortunately that was not stranded

[lean horizon]

Possible small tsunami

[karmic egret]

strandeds soundtrack tho

[lean horizon]

Exactly theres grappling and ziplining there could definitely be a “flooded” map if they tried

But then again the game doesnt allow you to go underwater wich is quite lame and makes no sense

[karmic egret]

i hope if get a season 6 we should get at least 2 maps

[patent path]

https://tenor.com/view/dancing-nerd-freaks-geeks-funny-gif-3485794

[karmic egret]

get dice to work on 1 map and nipple effect to work on the other

[calm bison]

Ok. What Bf game and gamemode have you hit your highest kill record in

For me it was Norwegian Grand Ops on BFV with ~121 total kills

[wide shore]

Well, technically it was 120 on conquest in BF3. But it was a 1000 tick server

Normal games, probably like 96 in BF1 ops

(I don’t usually get a lot of kills)

[torpid wadi]

Got roughly 5 kills once in V, easily my best game

[low timber]

BF3 Caspian Border Conquest 107/0

[wide shore]

Heli?

[low timber]

Attack heli gunner yes

My friend was the pilot

[calm bison]

Impressive, but what gamemode

[torpid wadi]

Conquest

[calm bison]

Based

[torpid wadi]

I basically decided i wanted to do absolutely nothing but run around with an at rifle snd pretend to hunt big game

[willow sky]

personally i think the best way to enjoy the game is to get a decent squad (one example is this discord's vc) and watch as you hit top 1 squad in mostly every round

[wide shore]

I think that’s generally the case with all Battlefield games

[somber widget]

[crimson wasp]

Absolutely, this server for example started out from just a group of people playing BF1 Operations

[willow sky]

yeah i know, just been seeing a lot of solo players recently get frustrated over the usual deaths and losses (including me sometimes 😅 )

when squad play comes in, oh man it feels so good

[wide shore]

I don’t play in a squad much. But when I do it’s always laughs

[torpid wadi]

Really eh? The more ya know

[crimson wasp]

:-)

Also as a another fun fact, #general is still the original chat that gets automatically created when the server was made in January 2016

[torpid wadi]

7 years of odd shit going down there

[crimson wasp]

Closing up on 5 000 000 messages sent

Just in that channel

[wide shore]

Over 4 years here for me

I wasn’t always active until like the last year and half

[torpid wadi]

Gonna be 4 for me this oct

[gritty tapir]

jet guns not being centered is kinda annoying

[next sorrel]

2042 should bring back squad rush and deathmatch

[humble hound]

jets are so underpowerd like you cant stay out for longer than 30 seconds or everyone on the map is going to heat seeker you at one time and you cant even hurt the tanks or wilcats until you lvl it up????? like wtf

[granite island]

Jets need 4agms

And 4 AAMs

And bombs because why not

Actually add a new vehicle category called bombers

[humble hound]

na jets were fine back in bf4 and bf3 dice needs to stop messing with stuff that isnt broke

would love to have the rocket pods back too

[next sorrel]

2042 doesnt have rocket pods?

[gritty tapir]

not on jets no

[ebon pilot]

just AA, AtG, and AIM radar missiles

[gritty tapir]

you cant even do much anti ground stuff until you grind out the unlocks

which is honestly wack since you only progress by destroying vehicles so youre limited to trying to take out enemy air assets

[next sorrel]

thats screwed up lol

[karmic egret]

BF3 and BC2 on portal needs some new weapons

feels a bit shallow

[next sorrel]

there have been 0 portal updates since launch, dont count on it

[wary portal]

more than that. we need alot of weapons. if they fix the vault weapons.

[next sorrel]

we need every weapon

ngl im a bit surprised they didnt bring the og xbow to portal since they brought the tracking pistol from bc2 and both are pretty "meme-y"

[inner ether]

I did survery. I am good boy.

[karmic egret]

naw in 3.2 they added a bunch of 1942 weapons

[fresh flame]

What is Friday night Battlefield

[safe bramble]

jerking off with the devs basically

[next sorrel]

oh lol

why did the survey only let me put between 0 and 100 hours

[gritty tapir]

lis delay is so obnoxious

[sweet hemlock]

yea its weird the survey wouldnt progress with anything higher. had to be psychic to figure out the reason lol

[next sorrel]

yeah, i have 450 hours in battlefield 3 not 100 dammit

[inner ether]

YOu guys got to pick hours? I never saw that

[next sorrel]

yes, a slider between 0 and 100

[inner ether]

I missed that...

[next sorrel]

they asked you how many hours you put into your most recent battlefield game

[karmic egret]

spelt environment wrong lmao

[meager girder]

Spelled*

[humble helm]

So the game doesnt launch, is there a way to update it?

[acoustic seal]

oh so these are the degenerates i spend time arguing with on this server

[radiant prism]

Has it calmed down yet?

[karmic egret]

my fav map is breakaway do you agree

[radiant prism]

Aesthetically yes

[karmic egret]

i like it alot good flow in my opinion

[sweet hemlock]

there are 40 000 "degenerates" and only 13 000 concurrent players apologizing for the current state of the game so we outnumber you

[fresh flame]

Wdym?

[next sorrel]

willing to give context?

[radiant prism]

Oh no theyve been going after you too?

ugh

[humble helm]

The ones complaining about how supposedly broken the game is or the ones who enjoy it anyway?

[radiant prism]

Enders fans in general

[humble helm]

Who ender

[sweet hemlock]

Battlefield 2042's player count has seen a significant decline since its launch. According to the latest data, the game's 24-hour peak as of April 10, 2023, was only 12,977 concurrent players. This is a far cry from its all-time peak of 100,590 concurrent players in its first month of release.

[gusty mural]

Dice

When aug

[humble hound]

yoooooooo and jets and tanks dont even shoot straight come on DICE these are huge problems but here we are a year later and its still a prob

[sweet hemlock]

make that 100 000. 40k are Enders' subs

[crimson wasp]

Hi.
Can we not provoke users.

[gritty tapir]

what is blud waffling on about

[radiant prism]

Go look at Halo, or any other game released recently. You'll see a similar trend

Dude I killed the guy hours ago, I didn't expect to still be going on LMAO

[fresh flame]

https://tenor.com/view/battlefield-giga-chad-gif-26459364

[gusty mural]

Fuck I want an Aug a3 in this, 42 round mag

[humble helm]

They're making the games better after release so people cant use the "but the game is broken" card?

[sweet hemlock]

well that just means thats a bad game when it cant hold much of its initial players' attention

[acoustic seal]

what are you talking about

[gritty tapir]

new member and is waffling on about bad game, yeah we know youre a troll bruh

[radiant prism]

Find me one game that can hold its initial playerbase.

[humble hound]

yeah na the game is still very broken i enjoy it kinda lol but very broken

[sweet hemlock]

i said much of its players

[arctic grove]

Halo 3

[humble helm]

Almost no game keeps most of its launch playerbase even after a year

[gusty mural]

What the fuck is bro on about

[fresh flame]

Oh my lol

[humble hound]

no game ever holds its intial player base but if the game is successful it should atleast keep 50% of its player base after launch

[radiant prism]

He thinks Enders is singlehandedly keeping this game together

[acoustic seal]

2042 should've stayed at 2000 players

[radiant prism]

(Hint: you're in a cult)

[radiant prism]

kek

[gusty mural]

No?

[arctic grove]

2042 is pretty alright

[humble helm]

You see this right here is a bad game

[arctic grove]

Its fun to ply

[wanton magnet]

Jesus people still play that thing

[arctic grove]

Play*

[radiant prism]

I mean as much as thats an example, its still not a dead game and steam numbers, just like 2042, don't represent the full playerbase

[sweet hemlock]

i didnt say enders is keeping it together. he is a voice against it

[humble hound]

lmao okay then explain to me what happens then smart guy

[copper fulcrum]

The fact that it's free and has that player count is funny

[radiant prism]

What started it all

[calm bison]

2042 haters when you tell them that not everyone plays through Steam

[humble helm]

TF2, one of the most successful games of all time, cannot keep 50% or more of its playerbase even when free

[gusty mural]

No game holds 50% of its playerbase, dumb ass fuckin logic

[copper fulcrum]

What, killing someone with a shield?

[radiant prism]

Believe it or not yes

[fresh flame]

I can only name one multiplayer game that has

[humble hound]

you ever heard of fortnite? LMAO

[copper fulcrum]

I don't understand

[humble helm]

TETRIS can't hold over half it's playerbase
Minecraft, even

[fresh flame]

I don't count csgo that's not a video game that's a gambling machine with a game attached to it.

[copper fulcrum]

I think the mods are what keeps that shit alive

[calm bison]

Yeah except Battlefield doesn’t have the reach that Fortnite does

[acoustic seal]

until recently, bf games that were put on steam late still had more steam players than 2042

explain that

[next sorrel]

so nobody ever gave me context, nice

[humble hound]

Yeah for sure no where near

[radiant prism]

The fact that they were given away for extremely cheap or even free?

[crimson wasp]

Bf3 🙏

[copper fulcrum]

Isn't Fortnite like the biggest multiplayer game by a country mile?

[humble helm]

Unironically a large reason fortnite holds popularity isn't even through the gameplay itself

[spare depot]

csgo is the biggest multiplayer game i think

[arctic grove]

Well I haven't played 2042 since release, is it worth playing now, is the game much better?

[calm bison]

THEY PUT NARUTO IN FORKNIFE

[copper fulcrum]

ye

[acoustic seal]

the new release that was incredibly hyped and had 100k on launch day?

[copper fulcrum]

WHAT DIDN'T THEY PUT IN FORTNITE!?

[arctic grove]

He's been in there a while

[calm bison]

Yes. Definitely. Absolutely

[spare depot]

no samus aran yet

[calm bison]

A good game

[safe bramble]

@radiant prism as a fellow dozer main, well done

i laughed

[fresh flame]

Biggest gambling machine

[humble helm]

With how much pop culture and celebrity figures are in fortnite it'll literally take extinctions for it to die

[arctic grove]

They are talking about whether or not battlefield is a dead game or not and giving examples of games that kept 50% or more of its starting population till this day

[radiant prism]

Man you don't know the half of it but glad to see another shield boi

[spare depot]

💸

[sweet hemlock]

the gambling is optional

[arctic grove]

They also go, deku and the aot dudes

[safe bramble]

i shield even in bf4

shields are the shit

[radiant prism]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1097275266163802233/1097283600883384380/Dozer_Ready_1.gif

[copper fulcrum]

Was this today btw?

[radiant prism]

Yup

[humble helm]

Doesn't mean battlefield should do the same though

[safe bramble]

seems so lmao

[acoustic seal]

the game had 100k on launch and dumped pop to 2k in 3 months, that's an abject failure for a live service

[calm bison]

Fortnite is the Oasis from Ready Player One

[copper fulcrum]

Nice

[acoustic seal]

it only has pop now due to a coordinated youtube shilling campaign

[arctic grove]

That's a good comparison lol

[safe bramble]

enders seems like a typical gun meta user that cries about having to work around a shield meant to counter solos

kinda ironic

[fresh flame]

I hate Fortnite single-handedly killed Unreal Tournament.

[spare depot]

dozer is the only operator that the armor plates synergize with

[gusty mural]

80M concurrent monthly players, 350M peak, shut your fucking mouth?

[copper fulcrum]

lol I never use armor plates

[calm bison]

I’ve said it before but Enders is Battlefield brand Ben Shapiro

[radiant prism]

I use the armor admittedly

[gusty mural]

Granted I skimmed over this site the numbers are on

[humble helm]

Again, not the whole playerbase is on steam, and steam doesn't even provide an accurate enough picture

[radiant prism]

Just since I don't wanna use C5, SPH, or smoke

[safe bramble]

based

[copper fulcrum]

It's like one more bullet

[radiant prism]

exactly

[karmic egret]

i was eating a pie and i come back too a warzone of a comment page

[arctic grove]

Alr, I'm gonna hit the hay, this is gonna give me a stroke if I read anymore

[radiant prism]

and most of the time as dozer they cant shoot my torso anyways so it doesnt do a ton

[copper fulcrum]

It doesn't help too much but it's there

[spare depot]

yeah it makes sense for him

[next sorrel]

no something about ender and degenerates

[acoustic seal]

it presents trends, and the trends are fucking grim

[safe bramble]

assault users explaining why sph doing 60 damage to a tank in one mag is balanced

[gusty mural]

Helmb me havimh a stronk

[humble hound]

lmao you must have a rough child hood to be so upset in here bro lol go somewhere else ya nerd sheesh 😂 small weiner probs over there or what?

[copper fulcrum]

I thought the SPH does like 8 damage to a tank

[next sorrel]

considering battlefield has always been a PC focused franchise, besides bad company, steam numbers do matter

[gusty mural]

What

[fresh flame]

It's why I watch Tbag and Jackfrags because they just record themselves having fun they don't complain....... much

[calm bison]

Sea of Thieves crossover when

[spare depot]

jack almost never complains

[calm bison]

TBAG is kinda annoying

[next sorrel]

who tf is ender

[humble hound]

do i need to retype all that or can you just read it again to comprehend what i said lmao

[spare depot]

i only know the bf friends, jackfrags, and matimio

[humble helm]

EA numbers, Xbox, and PS exist though, all I'm saying is that steam alone often doesn't include everyone

[calm bison]

Basically Enders is 2042’s top critic

[spare depot]

[calm bison]

If there is a gameplay or design issue, you know for a fact he’s made a video about it

[humble hound]

lol stop spreading your toxicity bro chill out its just a game mkay

[fresh flame]

A small Battlefield YouTuber with 45K subscribers lol

[karmic egret]

he tends to whine a fair bit though he does make good points

[calm bison]

Sometimes he has good points and other times he’s just annoying

[sweet hemlock]

top critic and will destroy probably anyone 1 on 1 lol

[calm bison]

I mean ok but like who cares

[karmic egret]

he has alot of hackusations

[gusty mural]

The irony is crazy

[acoustic seal]

you'd be pissed too if you had to interact with broken mechanics daily and the community response is to deny there are any problems

[sweet hemlock]

5.93 KD in 2042 which is complete chaos (another one of his complaints, chaos)

[humble hound]

😂 you got some probs my guy

[gusty mural]

?

[calm bison]

So far I’ve gotten annoyed at Tier 1 Night bird users and occasional shiternet

But that’s as far as it goes

[sweet hemlock]

you have to check 40 000 angles before you move out. people from every side and elevation shooting you

[calm bison]

And hind players

[humble helm]

If the general community is fine with it, I think the guy is just a little more fragile than most

[calm bison]

Goddamn hind players

[karmic egret]

rm68

g57

[fresh flame]

I'm just sitting here imagining Ender's in this Discord server and he's just angrily reading this chat

[calm bison]

I don’t really get hit with the G57 all too often

[gusty mural]

Me when I'm having fun and a 40mm grenade from a hind separates my soul from my body and head from shoulders

[karmic egret]

@fresh flame discord told me too say hi too you

hi

[humble helm]

Meanwhile me running out in the open without a care in the world because 64 players isn't enough to get into combat more than once a minute 80% of the time

[copper fulcrum]

These corporations are getting out of hand

[gusty mural]

Which is funny cause underbarrel 40 mikes do no fucking damage unless you bonk somone on the head with them

[radiant prism]

I mean, he was doing it on stream for a while

Not to mention he directly DMd me

[karmic egret]

why would insert political leader do this

[gusty mural]

Why would stalin do this

[copper fulcrum]

That's kinda sad ngl

[safe bramble]

enders clearly didn't learn rule #1 of the internet

[humble helm]

Seeing as he has a lot of popularity for complaining it makes sense that he'd capitalize

[safe bramble]

feeding trolls encourages them

[next sorrel]

oh, whats the issue then? hating 2042 shouldnt be this controversial.

[karmic egret]

Why would charles III do this

[fresh flame]

Companies be like "stop being introverted you introvert" lol

[karmic egret]

I just joined the FNB chat LMAO WHOOPS

[copper fulcrum]

"This person killed me in a video game, better direct message them"

[humble helm]

People have different tastes i guess, believe it or not some people hate titanfall 2

[gusty mural]

I can't believe king Louis xxv would do this to us

[fresh flame]

I can only guess what that was about lol

[calm bison]

The problem here is that it seems to be nearly all he does

[karmic egret]

king louis the 25th

[radiant prism]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/850376380822323230/1104197420574855269/enders.gif

[next sorrel]

more people hate 2042 than titanfall 2. like, colossal amounts more

[gusty mural]

Ahhhhh

[copper fulcrum]

Is this gif getting smaller each time you post it?

[radiant prism]

possibly LOL

[humble helm]

Yeah but you did say yourself hating it was pretty controversial

[karmic egret]

Are we allowed to join the FNB chat with the devs in it

[humble helm]

More than it should be at least

[fresh flame]

He left you an angry dm for Shield bashing him lol

[next sorrel]

ngl i wouldnt trust jackfrags as a good source of whether to buy a game or not, he just screws around a lot and doesnt seem to be super critical of the games unless they are just undeniably flawed.

[radiant prism]

A whole series of messages AND a tweet and a solid 45 mins-1 hour on stream of bitching about me/various members here

[humble helm]

All I'm saying is that even though the game isn't in a great state me and a lot of players not gonna dog on dice while its being fixed

[radiant prism]

I would post the screenshots of his DMs but Im not trying to end his career

Because thats not what this was ever about

The fact that were still talking about this 4 hours later is just sad

[fresh flame]

Dude I would have Tbagged him just to rub salt in the wound

[humble helm]

I only joined to ask a question lol

[radiant prism]

I did

[gusty mural]

Hey dice, AUG? Pls

[fresh flame]

I'm sure he called it toxic Behavior lol

[humble helm]

Is the inability to open the game on EA a down server or is there an update?

[copper fulcrum]

That's an appropriate response to dying in a video game

[radiant prism]

Accused me of stream sniping

[humble helm]

And then proceeded to complain for 6635174211 minutes about it on stream

[gusty mural]

Wait who did

[karmic egret]

[fresh flame]

Can I add you?

[radiant prism]

Which Ill admit is a valid accusation considering I did have the stream on in the background, but I did not deliberately join his game nor was I actively watching or using the stream to figure out where he was

[humble helm]

Lmfao

[radiant prism]

Yeah go for it

[humble helm]

You think he does that every single time he dies?

[gusty mural]

Who got mad?

[radiant prism]

Lets just move on

[fresh flame]

Any enemy of Enders is a friend of mine since he called me out in a comment section lol

[humble helm]

Yeah yeah

[radiant prism]

Frankly I'm getting sick of talking about this too

This has caused way too much drama for 2 kills in a video game

[karmic egret]

Lets go into the FNB chat or somethin or are we not allowed

[humble helm]

I'm looking to fix my own game opening anyways

[radiant prism]

Lets just drop it.

Im sure the mods are sick of it

And I can't blame them

I kinda started this

[karmic egret]

no no not the enders thing

[left hollow]

Hasn't it been like a few hours?

[naive magnet]

Gecc I have a 3 stack wanna join us?

[gusty mural]

Guess I'll never know who got mad

[radiant prism]

I would but I cant :(

[naive magnet]

Noooo

[karmic egret]

are we allowed to join the FNB vc

[radiant prism]

Yeah I think so

iDK

never joined it before myself

[karmic egret]

im too scared

tbh i want to ask atic

a question

[fresh flame]

It's an open Channel with 35 slots available why would you not be allowed to join, I'm assuming if you just don't be annoying it's fine lol

[radiant prism]

Dont use it to ask EA staff questions

[next sorrel]

the worst they can do is be mad

[humble helm]

(Kick or mute you)

[next sorrel]

lol

[radiant prism]

Theyre in the chat to play BF, not answer questions AFAIK

[humble helm]

Oh well that's a different case

[fresh flame]

and you don't even have to play Battlefield there's someone in there playing Modern Warfare II lol

[radiant prism]

Exactly. They're just hanging out, don't use it as your personal QnA sesh

[humble helm]

Alright I seem to have hackermanned back into being able to play the game

[meager girder]

Looool

[rustic mango]

Hey

[pine roost]

I can’t imagine anyone in that fnb channel will be able to understand what’s being said with that many people in it

[pine roost]

Also survey yay

[karmic egret]

its actually pretty coherent

[next sorrel]

scream in it and see what happens

[steel crown]

Imagine BF2042 would be released today with detailed maps … nobody would care about specialist or something … please release a BF when it’s ready 🙏🫡

[next sorrel]

releasing with 11 maps wouldve been really good

i dont think anyone wanted to wait 1-2 years for the battlefield game after it was announced tho

[steel crown]

Can somebody explain how to build a portal server for 12 players … players who reached a roof get damage … starting when 12 players aim and change team through Pusching square on ps5 🤩🙈

[remote kiln]

oh no a battlefield game released broken anyways moving on

[acoustic seal]

doesn't matter, several hundred thousand people preordered it so the money was already made

[steel crown]

Of caurse an I’m one of the dudes who orders twice the ultimate edition 😂😂

[next sorrel]

we are the problem regarding battlefield games always launching poorly

[acoustic seal]

congrats, you're part of the problem

[arctic grove]

I would

I want my grunts

[steel crown]

Thanks but iam a freakin fan boy 😬 and yeah I know I’m the problem not like anybody else who plays the game

[next sorrel]

battlefield vietnam when

[arctic grove]

Not specialists

Also a lot of feedback that formed 2042 as it is now is because of its launch, arguably a lot wouldn’t be different between now and then

[arctic grove]

I think people who say someone else is ‘part of the problem’ humbly need to realize that the second they bought the first BF game that got them into this discord, they were also technically contributing to said problem

Which means…. Either everyone is the problem, or it’s something else

[remote kiln]

the (new) DICE development team have already stated clearly they would have axed specialists had they been in charge at launch, so it's not coming back for future titles

[steel crown]

From now I „like“ the specialists“ but I prefer the normal classes

[remote kiln]

enjoy it whilst it lasts

[arctic grove]

Thank god

They don’t need specialists for mtx skins, this was 2042s biggest mistake

[steel crown]

I can’t imagine they will let down the specialists

[arctic grove]

oh they will

[remote kiln]

no they will

it's not coming back

2042 will be the one and only title with them

same as universal weapons to some degree

[acoustic seal]

i paid $18 for portal, you guys paid $60 + $40 upgrade + tip for a broken mainline game

[arctic grove]

Universal weapons kinda hurt class incentives anyways. There’s a reason medics are so common in the last 2 titles

BF1 medics got SLRs, V medics got SMGs

[steel crown]

Congrats you’re head of the table

[remote kiln]

it should be kept the way it is for gunplay except where absolutely necessary to lock weapons

snipers and DMRs to recons, and that's about it

[arctic grove]

But that’s still technically contributing to the problem anyways is it not? It doesn’t matter how much you spent

So again either we’re all apart of the problem or none of us are, that’s my honest take on it

[acoustic seal]

you seem to be lost, preordering based on marketing trailers is the issue here

[steel crown]

Honestly I don’t think WE ARE THE PROBLEM … the problem is the greedy companies who don’t care about their products

[acoustic seal]

remember that the game lost 98% of the playerbase in the first 3 months and there were still 2000 steam players

[steel crown]

I preordered because of the fact how much fun our clan had with BF5 and BF1

[arctic grove]

“But they’ll keep publishing it if people keep buying it!”

EA sells to literally billions of people. There’s nothing you can do. Wait till it works. That’s about it, unfortunate reality but we’re not changing a damn thing, especially by pointing fingers

[radiant prism]

vfc I didn't think you'd stoop as low as steam figures

I mean I know you usually blow things out of proportion but steam numbers? Thats a new low dude

[acoustic seal]

you're an idiot, don't talk to me

[arctic grove]

bruh moment

[radiant prism]

https://tenor.com/view/confused-huh-what-dog-question-mark-gif-23128484

[next sorrel]

i do regret buying battlefield V

pretty heavily

[arctic grove]

I mean

By VFCs logic, even they are apart of the problem

They said they spent 20 bucks on the game like that makes a difference

[remote kiln]

no the logic is stupid and doesn't make sense

the idea that a project that takes years to develop, and the issue is preordering weeks before is senile

and ignoring the problem entirely

[steel crown]

VFC knows who is an idiot an why he/she is not

[remote kiln]

you can make cop out arguments all you want, the issue is with DICE and that's who it ends with

[next sorrel]

buying a game while its broken encourages developer to keep releasing games that are broken

[remote kiln]

not consumers buying or not buying a game

[radiant prism]

^

[next sorrel]

well yes ofc

[radiant prism]

I know Im a hardliner in a lot of ways, but DICE/EA is the problem

No one else

[meager girder]

Yup

[arctic grove]

I personally put like 90% of the blame on EA

[radiant prism]

I would agree

[steel crown]

The Management not the developer

[arctic grove]

DICE has massive resources but they can’t use them if EA execs want holiday vacation money right now

[radiant prism]

Say what you will about DICE's balancing, but I think if they'd had a proper amount of time they wouldn't be scrambling

[next sorrel]

i think battlefield 4 proved to DICE and/or EA that they did not have to launch a game in a good state and 2042 just amplifies that

[remote kiln]

no, it's DICE

[meager girder]

It is dice

[remote kiln]

stop making copium arguments, it's their fault

every fucking time this happens it's EA who come in to force DICE to fix the product

[radiant prism]

Blame who ya want, just not people who want to just play the game

[steel crown]

Who cares what the problem is ?!? Make some freaking damn good game a

[radiant prism]

Me personally I blame overinflated standards more than most anything, even if that might be wrong sometimes

[meager girder]

They can’t

[next sorrel]

i dont think our standards are overinflated at all, when previous battlefield games made with less people and possibly less time were better

[remote kiln]

DICE management have literally done countless interviews on how the game development turned out and internal feuds within divisions for design methodology, about time people started paying attention

[next sorrel]

well, most peoples standards

[steel crown]

I don’t care if it’s EA ( obviously) or dice … make games for the players not for the shareholders

[remote kiln]

apparently it's not enough for managers to do media interviews with people still blaming some phantom source

[radiant prism]

I mean I think people make a lot of issues to be more of an issue than they truly are in a lot of cases. Is it all of them? No, You and I have discussed a few examples of that one.

[remote kiln]

you want to know what the sad thing is? had EA actually gotten involved with the development we wouldn't have these broken titles

but that's what you get with studio freedom

[next sorrel]

if were talking subjective choices like specialists then sure but game breaking bugs and lack of content isnt good and its not an overinflated standard to call them out

[steel crown]

What if questions are not the goal

[next sorrel]

people always blame the publisher for everything, but development studios have made great games under bad publishers and vice versa. EA should expect a game to be reasonably done in a reasonable amount of time, their livelihood depends on it

[remote kiln]

no the issue is DICE, had/have too much freedom

to make these abominations at launch title products

[next sorrel]

im not disagreeing

[steel crown]

What ???

[remote kiln]

what's controversial?

[steel crown]

No way buddy

[remote kiln]

ask EA or DICE themselves dude

[radiant prism]

I might disagree with too much freedom a little bit

[arctic grove]

Honestly that’s an interesting perspective

[meager girder]

Nah it is too much freedom

[remote kiln]

like wow is it to so hard to comprehend that having no oversight for your product means it turns into a mess?

[arctic grove]

Not sure if it’s true but the main woman that composed 2042s soundtrack apparently had little direction or structure given to her about what to compose

[radiant prism]

I think I might have an idea of what hes getting at, but idk if too much freedom is the right term for it

[arctic grove]

So I’d believe there were internal feuds

[next sorrel]

people who go "If EA had just let dice delay the game for a few years" annoy me greatly

[radiant prism]

Yeah as much as I don't think that was an option...it also wasn't an option

DICE definitely had to release it when they did

[steel crown]

But why? Imagine the game would be released today ?

[remote kiln]

no dude, it wouldn't be released today

[radiant prism]

But the community would've fractured more than it actually was if they had waited much longer