battlefield-2042

[next onyx]

But it's gonna fuck me bad cause I'm so used to Heavy barrel recoil I'll have to stick an Arcom onto it HAHAHA.

The m16 is incredibly powerful in its current state*

And if it had 40 rounds it might be a bit overpowered aha.

[warm stirrup]

https://discord.com/blog/usernames

For those unaware

Choose your usernames now

[fresh flame]

We can't yet

[warm stirrup]

Current username will be permanent username

[dusky tulip]

was hiding in the bushes when a latv car ran me over from behind, the guy's name "sneaky foot". I can't believe he even noticed me in the bushes.

[warm stirrup]

It's happening automatically over the course of the next few months

[acoustic seal]

waiting for them to roll it out to discord prime™️ users before early registration dates just to make it more obnoxious

[warm stirrup]

Everybody registered the day they joined discord

[wide shore]

Fair

I need to try it again

[warm stirrup]

Those who joined first get priority

Meaning closest to when discord first launched

[wide shore]

Well. I joined in 2017 so I think I’ll be okay

[fresh flame]

Can we swear in this Discord?

[warm stirrup]

Sad thing is if someone joined before you with the same username, they get it

Make sure to have backup usernames

[wide shore]

Yessir

[wide shore]

Fingers crossed anyway

[next onyx]

Try heavy barrel / fore grip - If you're confident with its recoil try HB and laser.

Hell try the flash suppressor with fore grip / FS and laser.

It has really good hipfire with laser and rips people up close with it.

[fresh flame]

I've had three different main accounts since Discord launched so I'm fucked

[warm stirrup]

Make sure to have backup usernames just in case

[wide shore]

I’m awful at managing recoil tbh

[fresh flame]

Excellent if there's one thing I hate its Discord servers for games that are rated M for mature and then ban swearing on the server

[warm stirrup]

Frick

Dang

Bic

[fresh flame]

One server labeled it offensive content so my logical response was "who am I going to offend I don't see any little old ladies"

[next onyx]

Fore grip and FS would be best for you then.

Foregrip and HB cancel each other out and function as pure bonus.

If I remember correctly in 3 they both affected vertical recoil by 33%(?)

[wide shore]

Yeah

I’ll give it a go tomorrow

[arctic grove]

Why, that is the dumbest fuckin shit

The entire point of the discriminator numbers was so two people who go by the same thing can actually do that

[warm stirrup]

Discord is becoming an official social media platform to appeal to advertisers and sponsors

[sharp marten]

Dude

The new attachments coming to portal weapons is a Huge W thank you Alex my funny gun man

[warm stirrup]

Sad thing is they're assigning usernames based on a who joined discord first basis, meaning if someone joined before you with the same username, they get priority

Make sure to have backup usernames y'all

[fresh flame]

2042: Has Specialists skins that actually make sense

MWII: The Easter Bunny

[remote kiln]

that's not how it works

the rename feature is for old accounts first, it doesn't mean they will take the name

they can choose any name they want

[warm stirrup]

It's happening automatically, you don't get to choose a name

[remote kiln]

no it's not lol

it is a custom selection

that's why this is being done

[ebon pilot]

read the help article

[remote kiln]

it's all explained in the blog post

[warm stirrup]

Have you read the blog?

[remote kiln]

yes?

have you?

[ebon pilot]

I don't think they have

[remote kiln]

apparently not lol

[fresh flame]

There's also an article by The Verge which clearly states Discord will prompt you to change your name

[stiff pollen]

i feel bad for anyone who didnt join in 2016-17

[remote kiln]

2015-2016 mainly

[fresh flame]

I joined in 2016 but I've had three main accounts since then lol

[sharp marten]

Can I get a link to this article please?

[fresh flame]

https://www.theverge.com/2023/5/3/23710259/discord-new-username-discriminators-number-tag

[remote kiln]

https://discord.com/blog/usernames

[warm stirrup]

https://www.theverge.com/2023/5/3/23710259/discord-new-username-discriminators-number-tag

[fresh flame]

"Unfortunately, this process means everyone on Discord will need to select a new username."

[remote kiln]

pls see the part where they talk about changing usernames

it's not rocket science

[warm stirrup]

Sad thing is nitro had the ability to customize the numbers at the end of your username

[sharp marten]

My gamer I can’t read explain in battlefield2042 terms

[remote kiln]

[fiery shoal]

so they release a badass flack skin finally

[remote kiln]

there's a new skin?

[fiery shoal]

might not be new, but new to me

[remote kiln]

pretty cheap aswell for that

[warm stirrup]

There's a bundle for this, new Rm68 skin, new brawler skin, cool playercard and double xp for 1750 boins

New Rm68 and brawler skin are worth

[tepid agate]

Is that ghost 👀

[slender isle]

New as of 2 days ago

[naive magnet]

It used ghost to launch

Nobody knew

[azure cradle]

https://imgur.com/aVdVt60 invisible barrier

[fiery shoal]

damnit trying to get the gol and ive being using the dxr...

[copper ice]

it's ok

the sws masterkey counts as sniper kills

[mighty moat]

the as val is being unvaulted next season?

[upbeat sand]

Mmm unknown yet

[fiery shoal]

welp, i would already have the gol if i was using the right weapon...

[mighty moat]

i thought it was in the latest post?

[upbeat sand]

Latest post is about what will release in the future for vault weapons aka

All the portal ARs and Gol Magnum will have skins and base game attachments except the ACW-R

[fiery shoal]

anyone know the gol velocity?

[fresh flame]

I just went from like 140 damage dealt to Vehicles to 410 in one match

[upbeat sand]

dam the Steam discussions are 90% people yelling at DICE for Bf2 remakes

[fresh flame]

Battlefield 2 what a joke where's my 2142.

[upbeat sand]

Either that or they just want classes removed so they can have their shitty Angel RPGs or Makay with amobox to not teamplay

[fresh flame]

Put it in Portal dice, it's time for some two-legged Mech combat

[upbeat sand]

I don't think Ripple effect has that much time to add stuff like dat

[fresh flame]

Are they not just only in charge of portal?

[upbeat sand]

They also helped with the Lethiathan rising event and created Flashpoint

So I'd think their too busy to do that much portal stuff outside of just a few new weapons

[arctic grove]

I don't lol

fam

1 was the last good bf

[next sorrel]

is it worth dying for the knife

[arctic grove]

sequels can go away

well that explains it

[next sorrel]

the others are better

[arctic grove]

well sonny Jim

it's about time you face the older games

I'm fucking serious

2042 feels bland

downgrade in atmosphere

well too fucking bad portal is.abandoned

[next sorrel]

cod? lol

[arctic grove]

don't worry

bf4 will soon get mod support

then it'll beat the shit out of 2042

watch

alright, you're one of those.players

we're done here

you can go right off

[fresh flame]

"1 was the last good bf"

"sequels can go away"

[next sorrel]

1942 peak battlefield

[arctic grove]

V and 2042, can fuck right off

[next sorrel]

/s

[arctic grove]

there's your explanation

[radiant prism]

Feels the need to say this in the 2042 chat

It’s ok man we all need validation sometimes

[arctic grove]

any bloke that says 2042 is great, I will retaliate

[fresh flame]

You know that Meme of everybody having fun you're that guy behind them screaming stop having fun

[radiant prism]

Anyone who likes this game I don’t like, I will get angry at them for

K

[arctic grove]

so be it. go play a mediocre game

[radiant prism]

Sane take

[arctic grove]

Difference being 4 was liked outside technical difficulties

[radiant prism]

Ok, go play an equally mediocre game lmao

No one here is gonna stop you

[next sorrel]

i am a game boomer for games i didnt start the franchise with, i think that is a testament to their quality

[arctic grove]

Fair enuff

[radiant prism]

I started on 1 and now hate that game with a fucking passion

[arctic grove]

I would play 4 more if it had breakthrough

Or frontlines

[fresh flame]

If you don't like the game go play something else and leave everybody else to have their fun, simple as that.

[next sorrel]

campaign is ass

the gameplay is ass too

its not fun with bots

only with people

[arctic grove]

I would complain about the classic BF too

only conquest

[next sorrel]

you dont get to drive a tank in it

[arctic grove]

[next sorrel]

rush >>>>>>>>>>> too bad bf4 killed it

[radiant prism]

Rush is a decent stand in for breakthrough

[arctic grove]

I’ve never been a rush guy myself personally

Frontlines was a good idea though IMO

[radiant prism]

But I do think breakthrough is just standard at this point

[arctic grove]

my fucking problem with Frontline: no end

[fresh flame]

Does anybody else here whining

[arctic grove]

it's useless

for Christ sake

add a timer, add ticket count

do something

[main nimbus]

Need 32v32 rush 💯

[arctic grove]

and a bloody carrier assault

[main nimbus]

That 16v16 is whack

[arctic grove]

fuckin lame

[next sorrel]

breakthrough stood in for rush because battlefield kept crapping on it 💔

[radiant prism]

Frontlines is the endurance racing of BF modes

And honestly kinda matches the theming it was born from

Two sides fighting each other to exhaustion in the hopes that one may break through

[arctic grove]

playing in a game session for 30 minutes isn't my fortee

[radiant prism]

But I damn is it an endurance test

Yea

It’s not for everyone

I don’t play it much but I’ve had fun with it in the past

[next sorrel]

rush >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

[arctic grove]

war pigeon

good lord

add a pigeon limit

[radiant prism]

War pigeons was fun for sure

Nah war pigeons was so much fun

[fresh flame]

Yes?

[radiant prism]

Kek

[arctic grove]

I want a full server to run war pigeons once

So I can play it

[next sorrel]

war pigeons is good

best bf1 gamemode

[arctic grove]

BF1 Operations literally is peak bf gameplay

[radiant prism]

Too bad BF1 game modes are hard to find

[arctic grove]

I know V had it too but doesn’t hit the same

[radiant prism]

Meh, BFV did it better from a gameplay standpoint

[arctic grove]

too bad everyone whores for conquest only

[next sorrel]

no rush is

[arctic grove]

BF1 was literal perfection from this franchise even if V picked up on mechanics after it, I feel like it has those takeaways but the visual spectacle that is BF1 makes it so much more engaging and consistent

[radiant prism]

BF1’s Ops atmosphere is fantastic for sure but battalions is just weird looking back

[arctic grove]

Sometimes I just get bored mid match on V

[radiant prism]

1? Perfection? Ehhhh…idk if that’s the word to use

[next sorrel]

uh

no

bc2 is perfection

[radiant prism]

Perfect storm maybe

[arctic grove]

Well no games perfect but BF1 was so fucking good

[radiant prism]

But not true perfection

[next sorrel]

from at atmosphere perspective, otherwise gotta disagree

[radiant prism]

BF1s atmosphere was so fucking good. Almost good enough to make you forget the atrocious gameplay

[arctic grove]

Also why do some maps in that game just flow so badly, Breakthrough can be so quiet dude

[fresh flame]

Everyone: Battlefield 1 is amazing

Also everyone: fucking random bullet deviation dumb game

[radiant prism]

No, you’ve just described the two camps of battlefield players

[next sorrel]

woahhhh idk about atrocious just not as good as previous games

[radiant prism]

The BF1 whores and everyone else

[arctic grove]

A lot of the gameplay is ‘dated’ but BF1 gameplay is over exaggerated

[radiant prism]

Atrocious in comparison to the other games at least. Good catch

[arctic grove]

People just dont like actual gun range restrictions and I’d rather deal with gunplay closest to BF4 over V

[upbeat sand]

Bf1 is good but it's too casual ish

Ya casual is good but the ways it does it is pretty negative to core gameplay like Sweet spots and bullet deviation

[radiant prism]

Going back to 1 from V was rough

[next sorrel]

age doesnt matter, bc2 is old as shit but still the best or second best battlefield depending on how i feel

[radiant prism]

I found myself actually angry at the game lmao

[arctic grove]

It’s not tho, I think this is a thing propagated mainly by the PC BF4 crowd who were all too used to the ‘skill gap’ exploits that put a gigantic barrier on gameplay for anyone else to learn

[fresh flame]

I mean player count across all platforms speaks for itself, in 2023 the people who enjoy 2042 outnumber the people who dislike it.

[arctic grove]

And obviously since Battlefield is a casual FPS franchise it’s going to patch obvious movement exploits

[next sorrel]

the number of people not playing outnumbers the people playing

[radiant prism]

Movement exploits or not, sluggish movement is sluggish

[arctic grove]

Like you can’t really just go and learn BF4 jets nowadays lol

[next sorrel]

i always thought it was just me lol

[arctic grove]

wr can fix all of this crap

Other than patching exploits, BF1 is literally no more casual than any other BF I’ve played, I can easily keep at least a 2 kd

[radiant prism]

The problem with 1 is how much it favors volume of fire

Over literally anything else

[arctic grove]

I mean there was the RCS

[radiant prism]

In a game set in a war where volume of fire was simply not something available to most soldiers

[arctic grove]

Which had like 9 rounds

[tacit marlin]

Are they improving the jeep next update or next season?

[fresh flame]

Then you've got people who say "if it doesn't launch perfect it can never be a good game" stares at No Man's Sky and Cyberpunk, they must also be bad games despite being great now.

[arctic grove]

BF1 has excusable historical inaccuracies though imo, almost every rifle WW1 soldiers had was a bolt action rifle, it otherwise wouldn’t be very engaging

[arctic grove]

I don’t really care about a buggy launch if the gameplay and theme are good

One things for sure, at least you can guarantee they’ll fix that after a certain point

[radiant prism]

RSC had 6 rounds yes, but that doesn’t stop the hellriegel, SMG 08, fedorov, MG 08/18, M1917MG, BAR, etc from just being overused because they were objectively best

[next sorrel]

if were comparing accuracy, bf1 > bf5 tho

[arctic grove]

Plus you occasionally have to factor in corporate deadlines, or just a game being hard to make in general

[radiant prism]

No. 1 is a worse depiction of WW1 than V is of WW2.

[next sorrel]

bfv cosmetics? rolling out of windows?

[arctic grove]

I feel like V totally shatters suspension of disbelief for a reason I just can’t say DICE was justified with pulling

Yes women fought in WW2 but never in the way BFV portrays them, I don’t know what dice was trying to accomplish besides appeasing someone’s daughter

[radiant prism]

V had realistic cosmetics too, and frankly you could still get ridiculous stuff in 1 like gold plated guns (not to mention plenty of anachronistic gear on playermodels)

V at least feels somewhat like WW2

[fresh flame]

Oh I guarantee you that 2042's launch was the result of corporate deadlines, I bet you that there were people at Dice saying the game's not ready and the EA Executives just went "I don't care"

[radiant prism]

We talked about the women thing earlier and I will now repost what I posted earlier

[next sorrel]

V feels nothing like WW2, bf1 is not accurate but to the average pleb they "feel" like its ww1

[arctic grove]

BF1 is like alternative WW1 if anything

Uniforms are reasonably realistic with alternative artistic depictions added, a lot of the guns were added because it would be a bland game without

[radiant prism]

IIRC most of what V got “wrong” was the Norway story, Rotterdam not having any actual British presence, and some anachronistic/experimental weapon types/cosmetics. Notice I didn’t mention women because A) there’s known examples of women fighting in combat roles in the war on all sides (including in Germany!) though maybe not to the extent they’re present in game and B) fuck you if you think the option to play as a woman is a problem in this case. (From earlier today)

[elfin coral]

I don’t like V

Too boring

[radiant prism]

I mean if your definition of what WW2 feels like extends solely to SPR and Enemy at the Gates maybe

[next sorrel]

brother you can dress like fucked up santa

[elfin coral]

Only liked the pacific stuff

[arctic grove]

BFV was just a let down in a lot of aspects to me, like I said it’s just nowhere near as consistent with engagement and immersion, and I 100% understand why people were pissed off with it’s depiction of women

[fresh flame]

Remember when those keyboard historians complained about them putting Black people in BF1, and then shutting up when they were provided with historical evidence saying that it actually was a thing.

[arctic grove]

Like yeah it’s a video game but DICE themselves decided to go for a WW2 theme. They obviously don’t have to get everything right, but DICE had no justification with what they did

[arctic grove]

Yes, it was. The German Empire had African colonies

[radiant prism]

Ok, you can also dress like a 100% accurate WW2 BEF soldier with Lee Enfield ironsights. Frankly the option for pure accuracy is a gift in an arcade shooter like V

[elfin coral]

Harlem hellfighters

[arctic grove]

The British had the Raj hence Indian character models being present

The US fielded entire black units

People were dumb with BF1s “SJW HISTORY REEEE”

[radiant prism]

Remember when that one Redditor made a mod for 1 for historically accurate cosmetics that also just removed all the minorities?

[arctic grove]

Y e s

Dude was a straight up fuckin idiot

[next sorrel]

yet your complaining about "too much volume of fire" when bf5 still provides you with too much firepower and insanely saturated bright graphics with the ability to dress up like a clown

[arctic grove]

Gotta love accidentally proving he was probably a white supremacist

[next sorrel]

xd yea, stupid

[fresh flame]

You know how keyboard Warriors are they make shit up just to make it seem like they're right

[radiant prism]

Was he actually?

[next sorrel]

probably not

[arctic grove]

Oh nah idk, I just think it would be weird to replace all the minorities that historically were there

[radiant prism]

I mean here’s the thing. V has automatic weapons in a war where they were much more common. The fighting is more mobile like it was. 1 has both of those things in a war that was known for neither.

[elfin coral]

I do like that they used rare weapons

[radiant prism]

Probably just got too much of that European side of history lmao

[arctic grove]

I remember when people were going through BFVs 2nd redemption phase and said 2042 maps needed Vs saturation

[radiant prism]

I never understood the saturation complaint

The world doesn’t instantly turn greyscale the minute there’s a war on

[elfin coral]

Uhhh maxim guns and 1916-18 would like a word

[next sorrel]

burns my eyes more than the bf3 sun

[next sorrel]

no but also yes

[arctic grove]

Oh definitely

But oddly enough

Gray colors make things seem so much more brutal and war like

Which is why I love when maps have rain weather events

[radiant prism]

Handheld automatic weapons did come into play eventually, but it was still EXTREMELY rare.

Even the MP18 was only used in small numbers

[next sorrel]

shellings, explosions, etc release smog into the air which makes stuff grey

🤓

[radiant prism]

Which demonstrates just how much influence films like SPR and BoB had on our common depictions of WW2

Like

Y’all know CoD 2?

[next sorrel]

i wish real life had a blue filter

[radiant prism]

Like the olllld CoD 2

[next sorrel]

yes

[main nimbus]

Dude wants a battlefield game with the lighting system of GTA 4

[radiant prism]

There’s MP maps in that game that directly mirror the sets of Band of Brothers

[arctic grove]

I think GTA 4 was more brown if anything

[radiant prism]

Like you can follow step by step the scene

[next sorrel]

ill settle for blue

[radiant prism]

The influence those films had on our perceptions of the war is INSANE.

[main nimbus]

Been replaying and it's so damn gray

[radiant prism]

To the point where seeing a European war as anything other than grey is weird to people

[next sorrel]

idk about that man, its just everything is too freaking bright

idc if some maps are sunny, i mean bf1 did that. but bfv saturation hurts

[radiant prism]

Turn down your brightness ig? Idk.

[next sorrel]

ig

[radiant prism]

Also idk why but I’ve just been listening to the ultrakill OST this whole time

I’ve never played ultrakill

Don’t let Way know that he’ll kill me

[next sorrel]

ultrakill looks nice, planning on buying it next steam sale

also dusk

[radiant prism]

Anyways, I can understand the older BFV maps not feeling a lot like WW2

To an extent at least

[arctic grove]

I don’t mind em feeling like ww2 since apparently dice purposefully wanted to portray unknown battles anyways

[radiant prism]

But like…Panzerstorm is PEAK WW2. Hamada is a great look at the desert war, and Al Marj and Provence are fucking sublime

Not to mention just…the Pacific maps in general

[next sorrel]

everyone likes the pacific maps

[main nimbus]

I've never played 1 or 5. Y'all taking em over 2042?

[arctic grove]

Panzerstorm reminds me of war thunder

[next sorrel]

LOL

[radiant prism]

Lmao

[arctic grove]

I’d take 4 and 1 over everything since IMO

But especially 2042

[radiant prism]

Yeah say what you will about Panzerstorms actual gameplay

[main nimbus]

Word I played tf outta bc2, bf3 on PS3 and BF4 on ps4

[arctic grove]

It’s so weird to think about how dice went from BF1 to to 2042

[main nimbus]

Missed out on hardline, 1 and 5

[next sorrel]

or bf3 to bf4

[radiant prism]

I’d get V over 1 personally…but you can probably get both for cheap

[arctic grove]

I only got BF1 in 2018 so same, and because a family member got it for me

But now I’m glad they did

[arctic grove]

Both are worth playing imo yea

[radiant prism]

Or BFH to BF3 eventually 😔

[next sorrel]

?

[main nimbus]

I remember watching gameplay for BFV and being hyped as hell but I just never bought it :/ 2042 been fun though it was the first battlefield game I pre-ordered since 4

[radiant prism]

Bring back BF Heroes please

Gone too soon from this world

[next sorrel]

OH i thought you meant hardline, i was like wrong direction lol

[radiant prism]

I mean hardline’s cool

[main nimbus]

Y'all ever heard of battlebits remastered. Supposed to be like battlefield on steroids. Just with blocky graphics

[radiant prism]

But got DAMN you can slice bread on that man’s jawline

[arctic grove]

BF3s servers and player base are the only reason I don’t play it online much

[radiant prism]

Yeah I’ve heard battlebits good if you don’t mind things looking a little less realistic

[arctic grove]

It’s been so inactive for such a long time but I think it’s got a top notch campaign

[next sorrel]

bf4 took all the players

[arctic grove]

I prefer BF3s campaign and BF4s multiplayer

[main nimbus]

BF3s campaign was too nice! Never got around to finishing the BF4 campaign cause it didn't hit the same

I was still hyped to see Irish as a specialist though

[next sorrel]

bf3 campaign is basic asf but fun, bf4 campaign makes me want to redeploy irl

[radiant prism]

BF campaign is so weird for me

Because now that we have a game that doesn’t have one

It’s like

[main nimbus]

I would like a 2042 campaign though

[radiant prism]

Man I kinda miss it for story purposes

But also

[main nimbus]

Since it follows up 3 and 4

[radiant prism]

Since when did we give a fuck about BF campaigns

They’ve been mediocre at best and…BF4 at worst

[next sorrel]

i always liked how map locations on bf3 campaign were the same as multiplayer, made the feel connected, like when the radio tower in the campaign falls i can see myself player caspian

[radiant prism]

And everything else is just stealth focused

[radiant prism]

Yeah that’s the benefit of campaign, it’s the basis on which the story of your MP sits

[fresh flame]

I tried flying a helicopter earlier tonight and then I immediately crashed, I'm assuming planes are easier?

[radiant prism]

And tbh I think DICE has done an alright job on 2042 in its absence, but it still would be nice

[radiant prism]

A tad easier yeah

If you’re more used to planes

Hop in portal and just fuck around with helis, great way to get a grip on the flying basics

[next sorrel]

bf3 is not a very good campaign but its fun military schlock, easy enough even on hard to just take everything in and relax

bc2 characters are pretty fun

[fresh flame]

I just want to fly the Gatling gun on wings sorry the A-10 warthog.

[main nimbus]

BC2's campaign is probably the best in the series

[radiant prism]

distant friendly fire noises

[main nimbus]

I enjoyed the story of BF3 though. Had a nuke going off in Paris, the US protagonist being interrogated the whole game then having to stop a nuke in the end. Cool shit

[radiant prism]

I feel like the internet has reached a weird place with the A10

[next sorrel]

running from the jet...

[main nimbus]

I even have the bf3 novel

[arctic grove]

That’s a good description of it

I don’t even care about the plot I just like how larp it is

[fresh flame]

BRRRRRRRRRT intensifies

[radiant prism]

A lot of people have realized it’s kinda not very good and definitely useless for peer to peer warfare, while it’s still aesthetically a cool plane

[next sorrel]

same lol

[arctic grove]

Bf4 didn’t live up to it in any way for me and had it not been for BF3s age never bringing it to the ps4 I wouldn’t of even bothered with 4s campaign

[next sorrel]

bf4 obviously tried to make characters you felt bonded to like bc2 and failed miserably

not larp enough to be fun, not funny enough to be fun, not good enough to be fun

[fresh flame]

I don't know if some people were just blinded by Nostalgia but Battlefield 4 was basically just as broken as 2042 was on launch, I mean there was some pretty game-breaking bugs when Battlefield 4 first came out.

[main nimbus]

They're always broken at launch. You would think dice would have this figured out by now

[next sorrel]

they dont have to figure it out

they release it, it sucks, they fix it a bit, everyones like "battlefield X is amazing now" and its remembered as a misunderstood masterpiece with a couple issues at launch

[fresh flame]

I mean they can't really do that if EA precedes to put an impossible deadline, even if Dice told them the games not ready yet EA would still give them the same deadline.

[main nimbus]

Battlefield X would be a good name... What would the premise be? 🤔

[fresh flame]

Executives at EA don't care if the game is good at launch they just want money.

[radiant prism]

Also hey on the subject in BFV and WW2 vibes…I was reminded of these mini projects I did back when I played V.

[main nimbus]

EA ruins everything. I hate capitalism

[next sorrel]

what did they do now

[fresh flame]

I mean they are responsible for basically every disastrous Battlefield launch, you think Dice wanted to put those games out in the current state? I don't.

[next sorrel]

they released hardline and bf1 fine

either way, EA, DICE, or the boogey man, the reason they still release them broken is because of us

[arctic grove]

Yes

If anything it was probably worst

But after it’s technical shortcomings were fixed, the content and gameplay was more enjoyable for more people

[twin ibex]

Maybe set in Vietnam or a game like 2142

[arctic grove]

This is weird to say but I’m not mad at buggy launches. Just make sure the gameplay and core design is good

Not that I want buggy launches but at least we don’t have to shoot ourselves in the foot twice

[upbeat sand]

Agreed gamers put too much stress on devs with their expectations

[arctic grove]

Never pull a 2042 and have year 1 be minimum content with the most exciting things being basic fixes

Or stuff that nobody even thought to remove in last games

[next sorrel]

nono

[upbeat sand]

ie: CD Prodekt getting fucking death threats

[next sorrel]

thats not the point i was making

[twin ibex]

Did you not see the hitreg at launch

[arctic grove]

Death threats to devs is despicable. idk why people still do that shit on every game launch

Or at all

[next sorrel]

idk man

but that wasnt my point

[upbeat sand]

I mean devs don't know the exact date games will launch just be patient until they think it's ready

[arctic grove]

Oh nah I know, I’m just commenting

[upbeat sand]

But this is EA talking bout so they don't care

[next sorrel]

i wish people would stop going "game is amazing now" when game gets to a playable state, encourages EA to keep launching shitty games

[arctic grove]

I hate that too

[twin ibex]

reminds me of the "if you don't like it then don't buy it" era lol

[arctic grove]

2042s still such a far cry from battlefield to me

[upbeat sand]

Game deadlines need to be fucking removed

[arctic grove]

I like 128 and the plus menu but everything else can go

[upbeat sand]

Do not give people a direct date cause that'll cause people's hope too high

And = more stress to make a good game in minimal time

[twin ibex]

I agree but then people would get piss angry and start sending even more death threats and hate like they did to dl2

[warm stirrup]

Anyone remember The Last Tiger war story? From battlefield 5?

[next sorrel]

yes, the only one i liked

[upbeat sand]

Last tiger is goat

[warm stirrup]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/506088023734222868/812818820041277540/video0_4.mp4

[upbeat sand]

We don't talk about that

[upbeat sand]

Ya game devs should be able to just announce it at go "in development" or "coming soon" with no to the second date

[arctic grove]

I never played or even watched any of Vs war stories

I ought to

I know the French one was pretty disliked, and especially the Norwegian one

[next sorrel]

last tiger was good, the rest sucked

[upbeat sand]

Mainly cause the norway one is historically inaccurate since the actual operation in real life was a group that did a lot and BFV just has 1 fictional character instead of the group

[next sorrel]

bf1 war stories were cool, bf1 was mid

fuck

bf5*

[warm stirrup]

2042 could of at least done the bare minimum with war stories using the specialists

[upbeat sand]

I kinda liked the French one with its gameplay

And it's story about the censorship of black people in Ww2

[warm stirrup]

A mission revolving around each specialists? Showcasing their abilities

Massive potential

[misty briar]

Wasted budget

Imagine they did

The launch would have been even worse

[dusky tulip]

I was just playing BF1 nearly cried because of this beautiful game and the depth it has making you feel what our grandfathers went through during war.

[warm stirrup]

Bf1 has a campaign, not war stories silly

[karmic egret]

way the type of whippersnapper to have tier 1 tuk tuk

[fervent rose]

massive waste of time and resources in a game that was rushed. we'd have even less maps

[next sorrel]

theyre called war stories lol

[karmic egret]

smooth brain

[twin ibex]

if ea didn't fuck up bf5 they would still have their experienced devs

[warm stirrup]

Battlefield 5 has war stories, battlefield 1 has a full campaign

[next sorrel]

no

they both have war stories

[hard geyser]

What really blows is no announcement of anything past s5

How can I be excited about grinding attachments if I don't know if the game will keep going after lol

[warm stirrup]

Battlefield 1 has a multiplayer mode called war stories, but that's not the single player mode

[upbeat sand]

We did find a leak on origin of an offical Year 2 pass for 2042 in the files but it's still not EA conformed

[next sorrel]

uh ok, same format

[hard geyser]

I know but man I want to be happy for these attachments but it's just not hitting for me till I know we get more lol

I hope it's soon...

[warm stirrup]

False, battlefield 5 war stories was it's campaign mode

[misty briar]

Why cant u just enjoy what ur getting

[warm stirrup]

https://youtu.be/uNUArn_FIwg

Battlefield 1 campaign

[misty briar]

Old games never really had alot of updates yet ppl played it for years after

[next sorrel]

there were 5 battlefield campaigns

battlefield 1

[warm stirrup]

Battlefield 5 didn't have a campaign

[hard geyser]

Old games got 16 maps and way more guns too

[next sorrel]

even bf3 had 29 after dlc

[misty briar]

Bf 2042 is viable

[twin ibex]

Because it wasnt rushed and was actually a full release unlike most modern games

[misty briar]

That werent played alot

[hard geyser]

It's okay now

[next sorrel]

still 29 maps

[misty briar]

Still whats the point

U cant bring that as an argument when its useless

[hard geyser]

And that's coming from someone that bought 2 75$ editions. I just want more content lol

[next sorrel]

they existed...

[ebon pilot]

if a map is developed, but nobody is around to play it, is it a good map to play on?

[misty briar]

And they were useless

[next sorrel]

no...

[misty briar]

Exactly

[next sorrel]

yes

[misty briar]

I dont need 30 maps for 42

[ebon pilot]

think about your answer in the context of a multiplayer game

[hard geyser]

People didn't play it though cause of dlc reqs

[next sorrel]

people playing on it doesnt affect the map quality in any way, options are always good

[ebon pilot]

but options don't matter if nobody chooses them

[next sorrel]

you could find a match for them if you wanted

[next sorrel]

yes, they do. by that logic remove 99% of the guns from every shooter

[misty briar]

I got like 12k hours in mw2. And u know how „small“ that game is. It just has to be a good game in the end of content patches thats all. We dont need 100 when we have 10 that ppl like

[hard geyser]

I would love maybe 8 more maps, some heavy smgs, snipers and more equipment. If they keep going

[fervent rose]

yea but the current map list is fighting with bf4 for worst maps of bf history

[hard geyser]

This game isn't mw2 though

People that play bf don't usually enjoy cod

Well that's my opinion

But I hate cod so much lol

[fervent rose]

the amount of maps is small and the maps aren't good

[next sorrel]

true

[misty briar]

Its not exactly. Yet obv i was able to put hours in after nothing happens

[fervent rose]

it's not a good situation

[fresh flame]

I fucking got it took long enough.

[ebon pilot]

this implies that 1% of the guns in a game are used, in which case, that's indicative of a similar problem to maps nobody plays on: content is being developed to pad for quantity, instead of being developed for quality

[twin ibex]

Hourglass really needs a rework I don't wanna walk 2 miles just to die by people in vehicles and snipers

[hard geyser]

And when some maps are better for conquest and some are better for breakthrough doesn't really help the game either. Then you add on top of it that there's no server browser. So you have to just kind of hope that you get into a good game

[ebon pilot]

you want better maps people will play on vs more maps nobody wants to play on, because those maps might as well not exist

[misty briar]

Thats why we dont need season after season. Just finish it when its a good game thats it

[hard geyser]

I don't think any of the reworked maps are bad, I just think they play very differently depending on what you play

[next sorrel]

many good maps with a few that are played the most > a few bad maps that needed to be extensively reworked to be slightly fun

[fervent rose]

as a breakthrough player half of the reworks are terrible/pointless. kaleido, breakaway, orbital, manifest

they barely changed and are just as bad

[hard geyser]

I'll be with you on orbital

That's a cq map hard

[fervent rose]

kaleido is the worst one

[hard geyser]

Yeah that too honestly

[misty briar]

Maybe its not the maps that are utterly trash but u players

[hard geyser]

I like breakaway though

I love the slugger maos

[fervent rose]

the only rework i will give credit for bt is discarded

[hard geyser]

Where you're just murdering

With heavy lines of fire on certain pushes

[hard geyser]

😂

[upbeat sand]

Oh wow 500 damage with primate weapons

[misty briar]

Surely the maps aint good as older bf but thats because ppl wanted bigger maps and more ppl

The demand is the issue too

Now ppl bitch about it

[hard geyser]

Dice wanted that not us lol

[fervent rose]

"ppl" didnt want 128. some crazy guy at dice forced that

128 runs like shit

[misty briar]

I seem that opinion alot

[fresh flame]

underbarrel grenade launcher helped a lot

[misty briar]

Seen

[hard geyser]

I would have loved more people sure, but honestly I would have loved smaller maps but just a little bit more people if you want to keep more people

But honestly break through on the maps that are really good shows that you only need 64. If you do the map, good so

Not sure why that didn't get seen in play testing

[upbeat sand]

Dice did talk about map expansion in one of their podcasts

They wanted maps to be bigger and better as the games went on, so as bf4-now they've been trying to E X P A N D the maps which you can see in maps like bfv Haramda

[fervent rose]

bigger is not better

[ebon pilot]

that's a different issue as well, the seasonal model of content delivery is a marketing ploy designed to generate continued interest in a title so that users can be brought back to the store to buy skins. the primary goal of the game existing is so the user is shown the store, because that's where there's continued money to be made. it's not done in the interest of the players, it's done in the interest of the developers, because, you know, they want to make money.

[next sorrel]

or maybe some maps are just considered more fun than others

[fervent rose]

giant open maps with no flow isn't good gameplay

[misty briar]

Well ofc. Which is fine to me

[fervent rose]

it looks pretty, maybe, thats it tho

[misty briar]

Always has been too

[upbeat sand]

Giant maps arnt that good for gameplay unless there's literally shit everywhere

But Giant maps are great for atmosphere

The feeling of just walking around on discarded ir hourglass and looking at stuff is very nice

[hard geyser]

I wouldn't be here giving my piece if I didn't love the game. Especially compared to bf1/5 it'll be controversial to say but this is my favorite bf since bad company 2...

[next sorrel]

yeah, difference is nobody considered any of the 2042 maps to be highlights of the series. at best theyre good, at worst, well... lol. meanwhile we have damavand strike at karkand sharqi valparaiso etc

[hard geyser]

I didn't like three or four as much as everybody else did though

[upbeat sand]

Me neither

[onyx jolt]

2042 has little atmosphere with the no-pat specialists story imo, if I play BF1 I feel the atmosphere

[upbeat sand]

4 is a bit too random and I didn't get how 3's progression worked

[next sorrel]

i loved 3 but 4 not as much

[fervent rose]

4 is mad overrated

[hard geyser]

I can see this especially with the DLC maps on battlefield 1. They did really good with

[upbeat sand]

You should look at my hourglass screnenshots in #screenshots-and-clips

[hard geyser]

But usually when I'm fragging out I don't think about the environment and the vibe so I'm supposed to feel as the soldier lol

[next sorrel]

ranks for base guns, kills for attachments, assignments for dlc guns

[onyx jolt]

yeah and they need to go back to real soldiers imo, this specialist clone war kills any atmosphere for me tbh

[fervent rose]

its funny seeing 30-40 falcks fighting over an objective

[hard geyser]

If doesn't bother me much but yeah maybe just having a bunch of different soldiers with different pitched voices would actually be a lot better

[next sorrel]

fr, i never really liked how it looked and the maps are a massive downgrade, only maps that stood out to me was the dragons teeth ones

[misty briar]

Well i wouldnt say this is peak battlefield, but i still enjoy the game, sometimes ppl speak as if there was no point in playing it

[ebon pilot]

they already do that? outside of your squad at least

[hard geyser]

I kind of like the way the specialists have unique abilities for the battlefield but that just kind of goes with the 2042 thing in my head

[next sorrel]

to some, there isnt

[fervent rose]

4's vehicle gameplay is also just.. terrible. thermal spam made it so easy for them

[misty briar]

And what would the reason be ?

[upbeat sand]

I didn't like 4's load out menu in game

Trying to change stuff while the background has just BRRRRRRSHHHHHHHHHHHHH in the background irritated my ears

[fervent rose]

and dont get me started on the boats/water maps

[hard geyser]

I was just meaning like you would hear random people screaming instead of just the same voice actors

Never really enjoyed vehicles in battlefield until I play with my friend and we play duo in a tank

[upbeat sand]

Also bf4;s CRT like look in menu

Not good

[hard geyser]

I just hated the way battlefield 4 guns felt man. They felt trash to me

[onyx jolt]

yeah lol, in bf1 we have a clear picture what is going on which country vs. which country and this clone war is just lame imo^^

[hard geyser]

Bf5 fixed that alot

[fervent rose]

bf5 and 2042 have much more fun gunplay than bf4

[hard geyser]

Bf1 was in the middle

[fervent rose]

2042 is a little too easy tho

the range at which i can full auto people is higher than ever

[hard geyser]

Certain guns on bf1 felt great then some just eh

[ebon pilot]

yeah the specialists outside of your squad have randomly assigned voices that correspond to your faction that aren't the specialist voices themselves

[next sorrel]

worse maps, some people still dont like specialists, less content in general, plus it launched horribly and some just dont want to support that even if its "fixed". also balance issues. doesnt mean you cant have fun tho, but for me and many others this game just isnt worth playing or even owning

[hard geyser]

That just aren't the voice actor? That's weird but cool I guess lol

[upbeat sand]

Another thing is revive accepting in bf4

Why

[hard geyser]

When I play recently, all I hear is the same people screaming it seems but you might be right

[hard geyser]

Bro go use the XM8 and then spray snipers from 300 m out lmao

[next sorrel]

thats in bf3 too

[hard geyser]

It's so dumb

But feels good at the same time 😂😂😂

[next sorrel]

its mainly for if you want to change your loadout ig

or if you get shit revived 50 times and want to end it all

[upbeat sand]

Also in bf4 there are nothing but heles or tanks I barely see infantry at all outside metro

[fervent rose]

suffer as engineer or play lockers/metro

[upbeat sand]

Both don't work

I live in oce

Everyone are 140s

[next sorrel]

damavand peak shouldve been in second assault

[onyx jolt]

I've been playing since bf2, 2042 has gotten better I like how it feels, how you can change your scopes etc. on the fly, but specialists are still whack imo. I would much prefer real soldiers again

[idle lion]

average gaming session in oce be loike

[upbeat sand]

i hopped into a capsian 2014 just now and i 100% say

why do people say the graphics are better in bf4

it is not

i have max ultra in bf4 and it still looks worst than med/high ish 2042

[idle lion]

lol

probably cause they havent enabled the rt global sth

idr the name

[fervent rose]

because bf4 has better art direction / polish in the small details of the maps

[upbeat sand]

i looked at a tree and it was the most staticy thing ive ever seen it didnt even have a shadow

on ULTRA

[fervent rose]

but 2042's graphics are definitely better in most cases

some of the lighting is weird

[upbeat sand]

ya art direction is def pretty good but i dont get why people keep saying its directly better than 2042

[karmic egret]

cant see the onjective thing when im capturing a objective

cant have shit

[upbeat sand]

new S4 launch bug

[fervent rose]

anyone else's minimap bug out a lot?

not related to blasco / emp nade / hack

like everything disappears randomly

[slender isle]

Nice breakaway match those 2 rounds

[next sorrel]

rip those guys who drowned in bf4 campaign...

[upbeat sand]

campaign is semi goat ish

but still good (in bed)

[slender isle]

The dude trapped under the grate is seared into my brain

[next sorrel]

yeah lmao same

"i cant die like this, i cant die like this!" 😔

[karmic egret]

EH what is the rules on the use of the word cunt

[loud night]

is 2042 server down?

[karmic egret]

because that word here in AUS/NZ is basically thrown around interchangeably

WAY I NEED YOUR OPNION

@next onyx

[fervent rose]

he says it all the time

[next sorrel]

no rules probably

cunt

[next onyx]

You can say it but like with most swears make sure to keep at the minimum.

[karmic egret]

ok

[upbeat sand]

People say it normally

[next onyx]

No I don't!!!!!

[karmic egret]

Battlefield chat getting a little too toxic smh 😔

[upbeat sand]

When Discarded rework came out some guy was talking about his wife last the baby in the car

[misty briar]

Okay. So its just game features which is okay. While i still find the balance to be pretty good compared to other games. Even like bf3

[next sorrel]

people seem to really hate the transport heli

[karmic egret]

why not have specialists like elite skins in BFV

[misty briar]

Tbh the all chat function is the best that could happen. Finally can tell ppl how trash they are

[misty briar]

I love transports and i find them stronger in 42 but not crazy overpowerd or too strong

[fervent rose]

its just incredibly broken on the sectors of breakthrough where defenders dont get a mobile AA

[next sorrel]

i wont comment as i dont know enough so

[fervent rose]

i barely fly in 2042 but i can keep a hind going basically forever on any sector where defenders dont have a hard counter

the explosive middle gun makes it too easy to counter stinger players

[misty briar]

Ppl find transport chopper too strong cuz everyone playing liz and lis is a weak counter to air vehicle

If everyone would play stinger this would look different

I think thats one possibility

[fervent rose]

the flare cooldown is tiny

you flare and dip and it's back up when you come back for another pass

[misty briar]

Well ye

[fervent rose]

they could have 20 stingers

[misty briar]

But as soon as there is 2 stinger aiming at u its gonna be annoying / harder, plus u wont do much kills since constant retreat

Compared ro liz where u never retreat

[fervent rose]

you dont have to retreat a lot though, you just fly above the stinger guy and unload 40mm grenades on them

[misty briar]

Idk, never had that happen to when i finally decide to play engi

[next onyx]

It's Thursday!

[misty briar]

Obv the chopper guy has to be good

But a constant harres by stinger is still more effectiv than nothing or a lis

[rocky bear]

server issues?

[karmic egret]

yep

[acoustic seal]

this has been a thing since the patch that added blasco btw

[fervent rose]

barely played since then so this makes sense

fun new bug

[elfin plank]

remove the hind condor from breakthrough

there

i fixed 2042

[livid swift]

players still have an issue with the transport helis when you can break them easily on most maps with the Tor :)) bruh

transport helis are not the problem, non existing teamwork to take them down is...

[elfin plank]

Yeah you can stop right there witht hat bullshit

to sit there and pretend transports are fine when they can literally fly to your spawn and shit on any ground vehicle is crazy

just because you said that leads me to believe youre a casual or something

no one could have that dumb of a take

[rocky bear]

lmao

[livid swift]

we can have a civilized conversation about the topic, my take is coming from playing condor and hind towards T1 for a while now

[rocky bear]

thats a dumb take filthy casual

[elfin plank]

Good for you

[livid swift]

and from my experience, you still have the rock paper scissors concept implemented in this game...

[elfin plank]

you t1'd an idiot proof vehicle

should i be impressed because you have some hours on it?

Just because random player #450506 T1'd a vehicle makes my point invalid?

Its broken end of story

a transport shouldnt be a attack helicopter tank jet hybrid

[livid swift]

make your point and I can counter argue it, but seeing the way you argue gives me the impression I'm speaking to a wall

[elfin plank]

Yeah thats cap lmao

Rock paper scissors is dead af in this game

[fervent rose]

"the transport helis aren't broken because the broken tor also exists"

[safe bramble]

you wouldn't be the first to get that impression btw

[elfin plank]

Literally his argument lmao

[fervent rose]

tor maul is the least balanced thing in the entire game

worst decision in 2042 post release

[safe bramble]

B-b-but tor is balanced because of transport heli!!!11!1

[elfin plank]

doesnt mention breakthrough at all... which is what im talking about....

calls me a wall

[safe bramble]

first time?

[elfin plank]

casuals smh...

hes the type of guy that trusts random blueberries with his life

no wonder his name is cav enjoyer

[livid swift]

I would agree with you Ashlee a while back, but they nerfed the main cannon, they nerfed the 2x miniguns and recently they increased the damage by 10-20% against the helis.
You need TEAMWORK in order to have a fully combat ready transport air vic -> you need some TEAMWORK to take it down

[safe bramble]

average rimjob68 supporter here btw

dont bother

[elfin plank]

the cav.. "better pray your random blueberry gunner doesnt waste all the ammo shooting at nothign before that tank kills you"

[fervent rose]

i can solo seat switch with the hind and kill on every pass

you dont need a full crew

[elfin plank]

SOOOOO... you need teamwork to kill a vehicle thats literally idiot proof?

a vehicle you can nosedive straight into the ground and get back up and fly away?

a vehicle you can eat ribs while shooting and get 100+ kills in?

is that balanced to you?

Do you work for dice? sounds like you work for dice with these type of thoughts

[livid swift]

alright, I'll stop here. Again, you attacking me and calling me stuff...have fun out there

[elfin plank]

I dont appreciate wildy dumb takes

[livid swift]

and good job mods for keeping people in here that can talk this way to other community members 👍

[elfin plank]

then you want me to debate about the most broken vehicle not being broken?? yeah foh

i guess disagreeing is inappropriate to you

[livid swift]

it is called an opinion (not fact!) and I can bring arguments to prove why it is not "idiot proof", but it's fine

[elfin plank]

PLEASE PLEASE

[safe bramble]

Rm68 supporter talking like they get an opinion lmao

[elfin plank]

tell me how its not idiot proof

ill calm down

[next onyx]

The way that you come off to other users is what is causing issues.

[livid swift]

barely played with that pos gun, hate it

[next onyx]

I got 10K with the Rm277 and I'm heavily in favour for a nerf.

[safe bramble]

not you

[next onyx]

Like look. I got tier 1 with the TOR as well. The main issue around it is its maul rounds which makes the thing nigh uncounterable.

Transports are also busted.

[elfin plank]

Tor shouldnt be in the game period

and ill die on that hill

[next onyx]

That's fine you can think that.

[fervent rose]

rework the maul cannon and tor is less obnoxious

[next onyx]

The main issue are those MAUL rounds. The charge should be longer, the reload as well should be longer.

[elfin plank]

101 different ideas dice couldve gone with vehicle ideas and they pick super spawn hill camper 9000

I hope enders gets both of those vehicles nerf'd to hell and back

[next onyx]

HAMMER on the TOR unironically goated.

[livid swift]

Imo it depends on the map, if we're talking Kaleidoscope for example, then yeah, it's idiot proof with how you can go around buildings and stop lock ons.
Say you fly on Spearhead, it's a wildly different experience, where you can constantly lock on to it. No lock ons -> a jet can counter you. No jet? -> A tor will find terrain to counter you.
So on and forth.
Yes, it's very powerful until people wake up and actually start to attack you, but until there's at least 2 diff types of counters to your heli (say jav AA + another heli), you can reign over the battlefield.

[next onyx]

The only issue is that between Hammer and Maul, Maul is a straight upgrade without downsides that matter.

[elfin plank]

My guy

[fervent rose]

they are broken in breakthrough

[elfin plank]

my issue is breakthrough

[fervent rose]

in conquest they are overpowered, but not broken

[elfin plank]

i do not care the slightest about cq

[fervent rose]

the hind/condor

[livid swift]

I've played a ton of Discarded breakthough and took down all the helis when I was def....

[elfin plank]

In breakthrough even on SPEARHEAD where they two buildings to hide behind

[livid swift]

never had an issue countering it with Lis

[elfin plank]

they are beyond broken

[fervent rose]

spearhead is a hind farmer delight

[safe bramble]

Dice: refuses to nerf a one shot anti air tank that also bypasses aps, making it the most meta and skill less vehicle

Also Dice: nerfs soflam to not support top down no line of sight locks, no assist per soflam, and giving giant glare to soflam

[elfin plank]

get someone with more than 3 braincells in it and they will farm your team unstopped

[livid swift]

but AGAIN, if I'm solo shooting it, yeah it's gonna stay alive for loooong

[rocky bear]

most people lack that many tho

[elfin plank]

Yes no truer words have ever been said about this game

[livid swift]

I get frustrated like you Ashlee, but only when I see there's no other engi that tries killing them

[topaz sentinel]

Which one do you think people use more? Bf 2042 on ps4 or on ps5

[next onyx]

Ps5.

[topaz sentinel]

Just found out I don’t own the ps5 edition so I’m kinda pissed

[elfin plank]

whichever has the higher aim assist

[next onyx]

Rip.

[elfin plank]

My man

[topaz sentinel]

They don’t seem to offer any upgrades to upgrade my version not even for a discounted price rip

[next onyx]

You can still play the ps4 version at least.

[topaz sentinel]

And aight tysm

And yeah

Ig

[elfin plank]

i was in a game yesterday where everyone and their mothers were trying to take down a hind on breakthrough spearhead

lis missiles

soflam

stingers

me in tor

[topaz sentinel]

But it is probably more dead though than ps5,

Is there any differences between the two games itself like or is it just different consoles

[elfin plank]

me in the wildcatt with 40mm

me in the wildcatt with 30mm

regular tank

it didnt matter

they were unkillable

[next onyx]

Wildcat's pretty bad.

[fervent rose]

they are completely separate versions, ps4 is 64 player only, ps5 is 128 and full crossplay with pc

[next onyx]

I wish its 57MM cannon at least got a velocity increase.

[elfin plank]

THAT many people shooting at one idiot proof vehicle shouldnt be deemed as balanced

[next onyx]

O yeah AA pod at one point was the wildcat's best weapon.

Easy wildcat t1.

[elfin plank]

wildcatt sucks tbh

unless you use 30mm on exclusivley air

lawn mower engine check

[next onyx]

Only good thing is its 30 MM AA guns but the transports have too much health for it to matter.

[elfin plank]

poor mobilty check

no aps check

[topaz sentinel]

Rip

[elfin plank]

huge profile check

[fervent rose]

yea they pose a threat but you can avoid it

maa cant really stop you

[next onyx]

I remember at launch its 57MM was the best tank killer.

[elfin plank]

Just bring in the bf4 AA and watch all these transport heli problems disappear

[livid swift]

What would you propose Ashlee? I would still play it for the sole purpose of going to flank for objectives, even if they removed the main cannon on it, the 2x miniguns are meh anyway

[fervent rose]

it's a transport helicopter

[next onyx]

Now that wildcats take more damage from tanks I wouldn't mind some sort of buff to it again.

[elfin plank]

Remove the nose cannon entirely

replace it with like idunno

[fervent rose]

it transports troops behind enemy lines

[next onyx]

Spotter seat.

[elfin plank]

a non obnoxious gun

[fervent rose]

that's already op in breakthrough

it doesnt need to have explosive spam

[next onyx]

Hell have it so that you can use HMG's on the side of the transport.

[livid swift]

I agree with that. Remove main cannon, maybe add a couple passenger seats for dropping people

[elfin plank]

Breakthrough spawns need like AI AA emplacements like bf4 did

fly too close while spotted your ass is grass

unspotted youre fine

[fervent rose]

like breakthrough was much better in bf1/bf5 without transport helis

[next onyx]

Vivid reminders on hardline how you could choose what weapon you wanted and wasn't determined by the pilot.

[fervent rose]

2042 doesnt have bt figured out well

[elfin plank]

Yeah not at all

defenders get sodomized nearly 100% of the time

[fervent rose]

defenders have sectors where you're supposed to lose, it just feels so scripted and boring

[next onyx]

Oh yeah how the first few sectors are meant to lose those?

And it's supposed to be more difficult for the attackers as it goes on?

[elfin plank]

Dice wont bend the knee and make defense fun but like atleast give us good gun emplacements or something

[fervent rose]

that philosophy is so lame

[next sorrel]

scrapmetal has the best loading theme

[elfin plank]

triple AA cannon

[fervent rose]

worst BT experience ever imo

[elfin plank]

20mm cannon

[next onyx]

I can't say I care for it because I've noticed this since bf5.

[fervent rose]

i mean i dont want pacific storm first sectors either but shit

make it winnable

[livid swift]

I appreciate the fire in you for this game :)) mb for not aknowledging the breakthrough issue I guess. Don't wanna start any fights with you or anybody, I just love playing vehicles in general and feel like you can counter them easier nowadays.

[next onyx]

I remember seeing something on bf5 how they showed a W/L ratio in certain sectors.

[elfin plank]

Bruh youre alright i just get hot fast

[gritty tapir]

boris is the only specialist i havent cracked t5 with

[rocky bear]

god i love jets

[next onyx]

How I think 40% of attackers won on the last sector on panzerstorm?

Or something like that.

With there being much higher numbers on earlier sectors.

Just how I've interpreted BT since then.

[elfin plank]

Like again... cq doesnt matter because you can fight the hindor with everything from a distance

but breakthrough??? yeah start praying or just quit the match if the pilot gunner duo decide to camp your spawn

theres NOTHING you can do about it

[next onyx]

Though I have noticed that the first bunch of sectors on 2042 are too easy.

[livid swift]

Jets are the only vehicle I can't play yet, it's like I'm drunk when piloting them on m&k

[fervent rose]

defenders getting 3 jeeps will do that

too many sectors are like that

[elfin plank]

AH yes

'

[fervent rose]

2 tanks vs a jeep

[elfin plank]

let me hold back 128 players with a couple of jeeps

vs

[rocky bear]

Oh they're not easy to learn but by god is it worth it

[fervent rose]

like renewal first sector as defense

[next onyx]

Yeah defenders should always at least have one tank with the attackers losing their support as it goes on.

[elfin plank]

2 tanks and a chopper

[fervent rose]

that one is so lame

[rocky bear]

Biggest thing is binding whatever pull up is to space bar

[next onyx]

Reminds me how on BT arica harbour the attackers got two tanks and the defenders only got one.

[elfin plank]

See i dont mind that one too much

[next onyx]

(On rush defenders got 2 tanks and attackers got 1 like wtf)

[elfin plank]

because most tankers in this game are dogwater

i can out play them

[next onyx]

Eh there are always gonna be bad players but the nice part is that you at least have some chance with your own tank.

Funny enough. On Rush Arica, Defenders have two tanks and attackers only have one. (The fuck ahahaha)

[gritty tapir]

90% of the time tankers of either team will hide back to be a glorified arty gun

[elfin plank]

until you have to get out and do
maintence

[fervent rose]

isnt that backwards from how bc2 was

[next onyx]

Yeah it is a bit.

[elfin plank]

teammates will steal your tank so fast and drive straight into 19 rockets

[fervent rose]

rush in 2042 is something they made in a day though

[next onyx]

Dude I loved Arica harbour BT so much.

[elfin plank]

Now i dont appreciate those types of players

[fervent rose]

i miss that infantry BT mode with arica and canals

[next onyx]

Gimme flashback BT with Caspian border and Valparaiso...

[gritty tapir]

fortifications would be tight in breakthrough but alas

[elfin plank]

they dont notice how many lis rockets and rpgs the tank is dealing with

[next onyx]

I won't lie. It's really funny seeing that.

[elfin plank]

so how can you tell the guy hes bad for not driving straight in a dying

[next onyx]

I'm extremely vindictive.

[fervent rose]

they could put flashpoint and stranded on it too

[next onyx]

Yeah they could.

[livid swift]

Would love to have the ability to lock them for like 5s whenever you get out for a quick repair...otherwise yeah gl with the blueberries yeeting them from you

[elfin plank]

Im usually the one that gets my tank stolen

god forbid a teammate has the tank alive longer then FIVE minutes

[next onyx]

Oh nah I mean the part of the teammate eating rockets being funny but that's my experience.

Cause it's like.

[elfin plank]

thats why were losing guys its our teammate in the tank

[fervent rose]

the steal tank > die within 30 seconds thing is pretty hilarious

[next onyx]

You steal my tank? Well fuck you. Eat all these rockets aimed at ME.

[fervent rose]

at least 50% of them do that

[elfin plank]

50?

LMAO

[next onyx]

There was this time where this guy understanding why I couldn't push with my tank.

[elfin plank]

They jump in that thing thinking theyre erwin rommel and die in two seconds

[next onyx]

He sat in it and just went "Oh yeah I understand why you can't push now"

[fervent rose]

depends on where im positioned when they steal it

tbh

[next onyx]

I had a guy steal my churchill when I was repairing it once.

An enemy stealing my tonk.

[elfin plank]

Insult me idc but irish is the best tanker

[livid swift]

we talking about people stealing tanks, when a couple days ago I had an engi in my squad that didn't know he has a repair torch by default now

[elfin plank]

his aps at least nullifies 100% of the rocket spam

[fervent rose]

well of course irish is the best tanker, his trophy aps is the dumbest thing besides TOR

[elfin plank]

so i like to push and set down progressive psotions close to obj and take out key targets

teammates hate that

[next onyx]

I can't sit in one place.

I'm the kind of person that needs to push.

[fervent rose]

you dont gotta sit still, really

[elfin plank]

No i sit kill then reposition

how a tank actually works irl

[next onyx]

You'll see me trying to snipe from the weirdest angles in a tank.

Or from the front.

Because ADHD go brr.

[elfin plank]

A tank is not an invincible wedge ready to eat all the damage

its super fragile

[next onyx]

(I have been successful somehow!)

[fervent rose]

i push for kpm as a tanker

and lemme tell you, irish aps works very well aggressively

[elfin plank]

Same

the obj is not my job

[fervent rose]

oh i clear the obj

[next onyx]

KPM as a tanker is really impressive.

[elfin plank]

killing around it and making the obj easier is

[fervent rose]

i just dont get on it myself

i'm 3.5+ on both factions tanks

[elfin plank]

People dont understand that though

[next onyx]

Yeah in BT pushing into the point supporting your team is my mindset with a tank.

[fervent rose]

i fuck people up when i tank

[elfin plank]

theyre wondering why you arent burning to a crisp

Just wish the tank wasnt so bad compared to other titles

[fervent rose]

i think my irish would be nearly ~50kd if i never played him as infantry

it's not balanced

[elfin plank]

GOOD thing theyll never do anything about it

what are they gunna do?

[livid swift]

maybe that's what they will rebalance in s5...his trophy system

[elfin plank]

pull another angel and make him useless?

wait... this is dice

they actually will

nevermind

[fervent rose]

they should make recoilless pierce trophy i hope

at minimum

[elfin plank]

gotta disagree there fam

theres actually alot of things that can go through his aps

[fervent rose]

why should you get 2 forms of aps as a tanker

the trophy aps + tank stuff has gotta go

or be heavily nerfed

[elfin plank]

tbh...

dont hate me

but i think it should stay

[next onyx]

Make it so that the explosion of the recoiless can't kill players but the APS cannot block it. I'd be all for that.

[elfin plank]

you have SOOO many rpgs flying at you constantly

128 players?

[fervent rose]

it's fine to counter lis

leave that

[next onyx]

Definitely.

[elfin plank]

64 potential rpgs flying at you

??

[next onyx]

I'm not against that idea at all.

[elfin plank]

no thank you

[fervent rose]

because lis rockets literally can come from above

you cant shoot up

[elfin plank]

If anything

hear me out guys

listen

APS in irl works as such

[next onyx]

Everytime I get attack on Valparaiso I get excited cause BRADLEY.

[fervent rose]

the m5 recoilless is pitiful as an anti tank launcher

it's a joke

[next onyx]

Then I remember; 2042 soldiers.

[elfin plank]

anything slow moving relatively will be stopped by aps

atgms

tows

rpgs

[fervent rose]

i kill way more tanks with mackay c5 + scar ap gl

[elfin plank]

heat shells and such

[livid swift]

still got c5, tank mines, the tor, the repair torch

[fervent rose]

the m5 sucks

[elfin plank]

anything too fast cant or will be mitigated

[next onyx]

Wouldn't mind it if they tightened its hipfire.

[elfin plank]

so it either go through or not do full damage

believe it or not APS in irl can lessen the effects of darts

Bruh imagine being a mother of your son dying in a 80 ton tank because someone shot your sons tank with an underslung grenade at the front

Or a turret from radio shack killing everyone inside the tank

[fervent rose]

that would be one small helpful thing but it needs more than that