battlefield-2042

[next sorrel]

if it takes col 100 to notice shotgun slugs then maybe its just not as big of an issue as you make it seem lol

[remote kiln]

more like 80 my guy

[royal swan]

No I found the cause of the problem

[remote kiln]

400 hours isn't a lot for the baseline games

[lilac dust]

Yeah I mean the guy you're currently talking to was one of them

[next sorrel]

so another few hundred hours, cool

[elfin plank]

what was the issue?

[remote kiln]

yeah more or less

[royal swan]

It was my hard drive

[elfin plank]

oh okayy

[next sorrel]

again, if it takes 700 hours to notice shotgun slug users outside of cqb maps, maybe its just not a big issue lol

[elfin plank]

m416 is garbage

[fervent rose]

if it gets an extended mag with the new vault changes it might be the best AR after rm68 nerf

m16 gud

[remote kiln]

or maybe you've just not played enough to know what the gun meta is at top tier end of the game

consider that

[elfin plank]

no its bloom is crazy

[fervent rose]

no it isnt?

[elfin plank]

if the bloom was decreased and velocity was increased

[fervent rose]

it was, now it isnt

[elfin plank]

it would be fine

[fervent rose]

it absolutely beams

its got some of the least spread in the AR category

[elfin plank]

no it doesnt

m16 is far superior

[next sorrel]

apparently most other people dont these days so i think im good

[fervent rose]

i'm talking about the m16

[elfin plank]

i was talking about the m416

[remote kiln]

it's not an insult my guy

it's just how grindy bf3 was

[fervent rose]

m4 sucks, m16 gud

[next sorrel]

didnt take it as an insult dw

[remote kiln]

kk

[next onyx]

I'm a bit concerned about the m16 of all things being buffed.

[remote kiln]

in 2042?

[next onyx]

But with them presumably removing HB it probably won't be as crazy.

yeah.

[remote kiln]

honestly I want it to compete with the scar

[elfin plank]

m416 being garbage in 2042 yes. i will not argue on that because its true

[next onyx]

The m16 is unironically one of the better guns.

[remote kiln]

just for nostalgia reasons

[fervent rose]

it already competes

[next onyx]

That's the funny part. With HB you give it a 74M 5HK.

[fervent rose]

if it had 40mag it'd be top3 for sure

[next onyx]

Probably be top 2.

[fervent rose]

with a fusion dot and 40 bullets i'll be an m16 spammer

i already like it

[next onyx]

I hope it'll just get a 35+1 round mag personally.

Give it a small push but doesn't over do it.

[fervent rose]

thats also fine

[elfin plank]

hopefully they have that "dont over do it" mentality when it comes to nerfing the rm68

but knowing dice they will over do it

[next onyx]

Basically hardline m16, Yo.

[fervent rose]

definitely not gonna happen

[next onyx]

Where we had the option for that.

Cause it gave the gun a little push but wasn't essential.

[fervent rose]

rorsch avancys and bsvm are all still wildly good

[next sorrel]

what would you guys consider an "impressive" amount of knife kills

[fervent rose]

they arent gonna nerf rm68 too much alex is like romantically involved with that gun

[elfin plank]

i hope so

otherwise itll be a repeat of the k30

[next onyx]

Best they can do it remove short barrel but we'll see what they have planned.

[fervent rose]

ugh no the short barrel sounds so good

but it should be nerfed with some bonus spread like bsvm short barrel

or they can simply make the damage ranges less busted

[next sorrel]

bf2042 still needs way more maps

it will only have 12 after season 5

[slender isle]

I mean, 12 maps, double the size of older maps, plus having different variations per mode, plus 6 portal maps

Like there's a fair amount of difference

[fervent rose]

maps are definitely the weakest part of 2042

[copper rock]

Seems about right considering the trajectory of this game. Keep your expectations low

[fervent rose]

the layouts for rush/tdm are laughable

i want to play rush but 90% of the maps play terribly

[next sorrel]

6 portal maps were done by ripple effect not dice so i dont count them

[fervent rose]

flashpoint was them too, your total would be 11

[next sorrel]

at least flashpoint is a new map and not just a remake of an old map in a new engine

[fervent rose]

true

they did good work on canals/arica/valp imo

they arent used in enough game modes properly

[next sorrel]

my overarching point is that dice seems to not have enough people working on this game or something, bf3 and bf4 had 29+ maps by now. sure double the size but that would mean we should be getting 2 maps per season or whatever

[next onyx]

Personally I hate the attachment on anything other than the LCMG and the M5a3.

[slender isle]

Reworks to both maps, gameplay and QOL changes (squad management, classes) have all been pushed up to be done and ready over new content

[next onyx]

It's balanced on the m5a3 because it doesn't push it intro absurdity.

I wouldn't even mind it on the m416 if it meant that the 416 had less range overall.

Cause it's an m5a3 clone.

[fervent rose]

i just mean the rm68 audio is with it

[next sorrel]

all stuff that shouldve been there at launch, bf2042 shouldnt be considered a good game because they added stuff that was in over a decade of battlefield and suddenly removed for no reason and a few new maps

[next onyx]

RM277 has a really good unsuppressed sound.

Sounds like a nailgun.

[fervent rose]

i dont really like the s barrel = better balancing

[next onyx]

In what you mean sorry.

[fervent rose]

also the long barrels are just bad in this game

it's wack how they create the plus system but dont balance the attachments at all

[next onyx]

I wouldn't mind it if the long barrel increased vertical recoil in turn for increasing velocity.

But that would just add on top of the problem of weapons being beamers.

[slender isle]

AlL sTuFf ThAt ShOuLd HaVe BeEn ThErE

they attempted something new and it didn't pay off. I can't just say "Oh yeah should've been there" when the design wasn't to go that way initially

You gotta try new things other wise you end up with a game series like medal of honour which just died tf out

[next onyx]

The game should of had the basics at least like a scoreboard, VOIP and squad management from launch.

[fervent rose]

yeah i mean for like a "tap fire build" the long barrel should be a much better choice

[slender isle]

Squad management I agree with. But come on, voip?

[fervent rose]

currently thats a pointless thing to do

[next onyx]

There is literally no excuse unless your game was meant to be a completely different game and then you switch up development midway.

[slender isle]

not once has someone used that effectively in my matches. It's just mouth breathing

[next onyx]

VOIP is something that's nice to have.

[slender isle]

Yeah, to have to mute people with

[next onyx]

I don't use VoIP, I don't care for it. But there are people that actually do actively use it and it shouldn't be omitted.

Actually no I do use VoIP pretty actively with my party.

[slender isle]

There was a scoreboard but it was shit. VOIP is hardly a needed function in a game. Just like a chat box or whatever. non of it is "needed" to make a game function and play well.

[next onyx]

So that's a bit of a lie on my part. I'll correct it then. I don't use it to talk to rando squadmates but it's nice to talk with my friends when they join on me in game.

[next sorrel]

didnt know not being able to pick a squad was "trying something new" to "keep the franchise from dying like medal of honor", thx for clarification

[next onyx]

They add to the experience.

Being able to talk to your team even as a meme.

[slender isle]

It was a shit technical launch which really isn't excusable but the rest of it was something they tried to change to compete with the ever growing shooter market

You can see that COD (that everyone likes to compare BF to) had ground war, Apex has some weird conquest gamemode, and we have games like WW3 and battlebit trying their hand at the same things

[next onyx]

Hell there's still no server browser for AoW.

[fervent rose]

nor will there ever be

[next onyx]

Playing Rush XL made me remember what it was like to experience persistent servers and it was good!

[fervent rose]

which is honestly fine it isnt the "problem" of 2042

problem is maps and overall quality

[slender isle]

Things evolve. Now clearly we know it didn't work out for a majority of people, but I can't fault them for trying something new. Even if some features were supposedly missing

[sage dock]

If they kept the victory lines, Lis would probably go:
"Wham! Bam! Thank you ma'am!"

[next onyx]

Yeah I'd agree to an extent.

[fervent rose]

i get into games fine, i get new games nearly instantly

[slender isle]

I kinda prefer the just click and join aspect

[bleak nebula]

this is my main issue with bf2042 tbh

[slender isle]

plus it loads you in fast enough to the next match anywho

[next onyx]

It's not the main issue with the game but I'd say that it would go a long way to reducing player burn out.

[fervent rose]

yea but the older games had genuine issues

like clan stacking a server

[limpid pond]

surely the devs add clone trooper skins for may the 4th right?

[next sorrel]

which is why quick match should be offered alongside a server browser, like older games

[bleak nebula]

would probably play bf2042 more if we had server browser

[slender isle]

But then you get to verse the same people over and over and over and over and over again

[next onyx]

I would be significantly less frustrated with elements of this game too.

[fervent rose]

bfv needed a player scrambler after every round but instead 1 side would just steamroll round after round

i saw that a LOT

[next onyx]

You can always leave the match and join a different game.

[limpid pond]

a server browser is nice but doesnt make the game unplayable

[slender isle]

Do you really think that's a good idea in OCE there way?

[next onyx]

It's not like in OCE we have the choice of joining another lobby anyways.

[sage dock]

There is! Head over to Portal and browse.

[next sorrel]

rejoin? not everyone wants to find a new match after every round, if you like it, then leaving a game when its over is not hard

[next onyx]

It would help a lot.

[bleak nebula]

portal is pretty dead relatively

[slender isle]

YOU LITERALLY CAN"T IN OCE

[next onyx]

I forgot about Portal.

[slender isle]

you have the option of 1 match per playlist

that's it

[white geyser]

Had to rework my custom portal zombie matchup to replace one of the maps with hourglass map. I just wish they add something, I see barely matchup from people in the portal doing zombie matchups

[next onyx]

We dunno how many matches are up at any time because there's no server browser.

[slender isle]

thanks to our what? maybe 30m pop in the OCE region

[sage dock]

I get a lot of matches in Portal. I go there for Conquest of Ages.

[slender isle]

and then only I reckon a couple mil play games that are online and are young/old enough to play these games

[next onyx]

I'd love to leave a lobby & join a different one on a rotation.

[next sorrel]

if game sucked less at launch maybe there would be more oceanic players

[fervent rose]

like it's 3:30 am in my region and i'm still getting games fine. server browser isnt a "needed" part of the game

[next onyx]

A completely different lobby within power.

[fervent rose]

but i do miss the control

[next onyx]

It's kind of needed over here unfort.

[fervent rose]

but it had problems

[slender isle]

Yeah... warzone was the same, as was fortnite, as was apex. Like you'll verse the same people

It's a very small population

[next sorrel]

other option is moving

lol

[white geyser]

I wish they add custom matchup in AOW just like portal does if only it has server browser

[sage dock]

The one thing I want after a match is to keep the game going. Next battle please! I don't want to to to the main menu yet.

[slender isle]

Did you know that New york state has almost half the population of Australia?

[next onyx]

Try Rush XL when it plays, Hi ya.

[slender isle]

Texas has more pop

[next onyx]

The fact that you can stay in the lobby and keep on playing.

It's literally refreshing.

[slender isle]

I won't lie though, as of 4.2, the amount of time between matches is like 10 seconds

from loading out to spawn screen

[next onyx]

It made me remember how much fun there is to be had sitting in the same lobby.

[next sorrel]

did you know new york city is situated on a continent with 580 million people

[sage dock]

That mode is INSANE!
Really hard when attacking, but never impossible. Getting that win is so damn refreshing!

[next onyx]

Oh yeah the guy on the other side a pain in the ass? Tryhard for one round, beat their ass and make them leave.

[upbeat sand]

They actually tried doing that with BT in S2 as a test

[slender isle]

Yes, and it's the same size as australia

[upbeat sand]

It didn't last long since no one knew of it

[sage dock]

Shame!

[slender isle]

It's back again

[upbeat sand]

Huh

[fervent rose]

breakthrough does that now too

[sage dock]

It is?

[slender isle]

You switch to defender side after playing attack

[next sorrel]

but australia has 25 million people

[slender isle]

if it's a fresh game

[sage dock]

Oh yeah!

[next onyx]

Weird.

[fervent rose]

or at least it happens sometimes

not every game

[next onyx]

Sometimes.

[fervent rose]

"switching to defense"

[next onyx]

Sorry but wtf.

[sage dock]

But I hate being in the Russian team.

[fervent rose]

yea i had it happen earlier tonight but not every round

maybe close rounds only?

[slender isle]

Yes. Land mass is the same size as the US. We have a cattle station the size of texas so

[fervent rose]

that'd be legit

[next sorrel]

shy

[next onyx]

Probably some dumb shit.

[limpid pond]

sounds dumb already \

[slender isle]

I think it's a fresh server. so you may join the "second" round of a game

[next sorrel]

land mass =/= people so if you want more populated games, move to europe or US

[fervent rose]

if there was a score threshold for a repeat game with the same ppl, thats a good system

[white geyser]

I wish you can create rush mode as a zombie matchup, all you gonna do is survive longest you can by defending the objective from the hordes of zombies coming at you

[fervent rose]

a stomp should end with a player scramble, not going again

[next onyx]

Mhhh I remember back at bf5 of thinking of squad based balance not by player.

[slender isle]

And deal with like everything being worse including prices of everything, population density, landscape, animals, and beaches? Now why would I do that?

[next sorrel]

to not fight the same people in video games

[limpid pond]

did you play the christmas infected mode last year?

it was stupidly fun

[white geyser]

I think I did

[next sorrel]

also australia has too many weird bugs

[lilac dust]

What's the best barrel for the M16A3 ?

[next onyx]

HB.

[lilac dust]

ty

[limpid pond]

they had the elves as the zombies with sharpened candy canes and santa as the survivors with the snowflake lcmg

[sage dock]

The specialists is the main reason I play. Fun to get to know them!

[limpid pond]

weird

[next onyx]

Oh yeah I got an AI squad in all out warfare.

In before it's a bug because of course.

[limpid pond]

this happened to me earlier even though the game is more popular i swear i get alot more bots than i did in season 3

[sage dock]

Feels like I'm the only one that uses the voice commands in the game.

[next onyx]

Did you get it starting yesterday?

Oh yeah Commo rose?

I just say thanks a lot because of bf5 habits.

[next sorrel]

hi-ya why do you hate playing as russia

[sage dock]

Fuckin' war in real life.

[slender isle]

Also cause the hind is cheese

[next sorrel]

its just a video game country

[limpid pond]

thats actually cringe

[copper rock]

Nah I frequently get the dudes with open mics who breathe loud AF and never talk.

[slender isle]

This is like hating Japan for invading china during WW2

[limpid pond]

L+ Ratio

[sage dock]

I never really use the mic. Rather have the characters in the game speak for me.

[bleak nebula]

does anyone know how below radar works in bf2042?

[slender isle]

fly below 30m and vehicles can't lock on

[next onyx]

Uh what about it mango?

[limpid pond]

speaking facts

[bleak nebula]

only air vehicles or also ground?

[slender isle]

Both

[limpid pond]

has nothing to do with the country or citizens but instead the government

[next onyx]

Below radar will activate when you're 30M from the ground. This will make you immune to lock ons, disable your air radar and make you invisible to other air radars.

[limpid pond]

literal weirdos to hate a country due to it politcians

[bleak nebula]

ah makes sense

[next onyx]

Eh I wanted to chime in and speak my mind of it but let's not delve this into too much.

[limpid pond]

okay case dropped

[next onyx]

By the way Mango, good to see ya.

[sage dock]

That's fair.

[fervent rose]

that's a funny way to simplify things but ok

[limpid pond]

well hopefully we get a starwars update tOday for may the 4th

[limpid pond]

it was dropped

[elfin plank]

ffs listen to enders and REMOVEEEEE!!!! all these stupid ass weapons from the hind

[copper rock]

Star Wars update?

[limpid pond]

i wish

[elfin plank]

hind shouldnt be able to fly behind lines and obliterate everything

[limpid pond]

fortnite did one today too they added the starwars skins to the game alongwith some cool shit but they're not even ea

[slender isle]

All we need is a 5 second spawn protection while in the spawn zone. Like while you're in the spawn zone after spawning you get 5 seconds of invincible. The instance you leave the zone you lose the invincible stuff and if you go back in you don't get it back

[fervent rose]

as predicted, giving the hind 20% less health did nothing to stop the issues on breakthrough

[limpid pond]

ea owns the starwars game franchise so it'd be cool if they added an update

[slender isle]

this way tanks are good and jets and helis

[limpid pond]

not to mention the new starwars game already dropped

[fervent rose]

all they have to do is remove the nose gun on condor/hind

[slender isle]

explosive guns

like it's fine to have the minigun

[fervent rose]

theres no reason for it to be a gunship

it's a transport

it doesnt need 3 miniguns

[slender isle]

I mean, black hawk had 2 heavy machine guns on them

[fervent rose]

they could stand to buff the miniguns back to their older usefulness too if they removed the nose gun

they're kinda meh now

[next onyx]

Bad co 2 to BFH transports had exposed miniguns at the sides.

They were powerful but they weren't easy to utilise.

[fervent rose]

yeah that too, all gunners need to be able to be easily shot out

it's not fun having 0 counterplay

[next sorrel]

bc2 transport is also pretty weak

same with bf3

[fervent rose]

yea because in bf2 they were insane

they chilled out for a while on making op black hawks

but even op bf2 helis weren't no skill explosive spam

[elfin plank]

LIKE SERIOUSLY ALL THEY HAVE TO DO

but no they need make sure the casuals have their super crutches

[fervent rose]

defenders getting 3 jeeps vs 2 tanks and a hind is always fun

[elfin plank]

And to THINK their was someone in here defending the fucking hindor

"yeah man the hind should be like a mini raid boss in an fps game"

[plain hamlet]

are they nerfing the rm and burst glock? not sure if i heard it correct

[elfin plank]

They are, the geniuses at dice

[fervent rose]

same studio that came up with elite kits in bf1

click button become op haha

[elfin plank]

They really love the idea of immortal casual running around map killing everyone huh?

[fervent rose]

look at battlefront 2 for more confirmation of that

[elfin plank]

oh you mean the player with half a chromosome spawning vader and getting 100+ kills

yeah i know

[fervent rose]

that game could be wildly good but dice dice'd it

[elfin plank]

"we have to make it easy for every player, no matter how bad they are"

[lilac dust]

So DICE confirmed universal weapon skins for vault weapons. Do we know if tier 1 skins are coming too?

[rich elbow]

https://tenor.com/view/hello-there-hi-there-greetings-gif-9442662

[elfin plank]

Hye MR dice dev any word on when youll be removing the nose guns from the hindor?

[rich elbow]

I know nothing about weapons and vehicles unfortunately, sorry!

[elfin plank]

hmm at least your honest

i think

i hope

[lilac dust]

Hello there!

[rich elbow]

I don't work with them, I work in UX/UI

[lilac dust]

Well regardless, the UX/UI has been stellar lately 👌

[elfin plank]

does UX/UI involve working with the minimap and such?

if it does theres still issues with its relative rotation and player

[rich elbow]

It does, but I tend to work mostly with stuff out-of-round

[elfin plank]

especially emp effect is present or going away

oh i see

[slender isle]

any teases we can get? 🥺

[rich elbow]

I can forward feedback, but I'd need some form of video or something to illustrate the issue, with as much info on it as possible.

[elfin plank]

can i just try to describe it? i dont go out of my way to record issues with 2042 as theres so much

[lilac dust]

DOG THEMED MENU CONFIRMED

[slender isle]

RANGER SKINS INCOMING

[next onyx]

Hey Gav!

How are you?

[rich elbow]

It's outside my area, I am also quite busy with other work, and this would be something I'd have to do in my free-time (i.e go into the game, try find the issue, record it, forward it to the team, follow up with it, and so on). But if you give me the best description you can, I'll see what I can do.

[rich elbow]

Hey mate, doing good, super busy but checking in on all of you to wish you an awesome day. How are you?

[fervent rose]

Hey Gav, is the team aware that players abuse/exploit the faction display in breakthrough to play attackers? I see a lot of "good players" only playing attack, ever.

that's one ui thing that i know could help the game

[next onyx]

I'm alright! Just waiting for my dinner to be cooked so I can go out to the gym later.

[slender isle]

Actually gav, Mackays grapple crosshair is a bit inconsistent. Like when it changes from squad to diamond etc. Sometimes you can grapple on the square crosshair (when you shouldn't be able to).

[elfin plank]

Bet, when under the effects of emp or just being the general area of blaskos device (not inside) sometimes your minimap... sometimes... every single time when moving outside the effected area your minimap will appear but nothing will be on it. pretty annoying when youre in congested areas and not under the effects of immediate direct players and indirect actions in your area

[rich elbow]

I'll repeat what I said above: if you have bug reports I'm more likely to be able to forward them if we have videos/screenshots etc., then I can try follow up guys. Thanks!

[next onyx]

Oh yeah you guys worked with Alex to work on the plus menu revision didn't you?

It would make sense for you guys to work with the weapon team on that.

[next sorrel]

gav what is your favorite battlefield game

[elfin plank]

also idk if this is considered your area but ffs the goddamn blackscreen glitch is still alive and well in 2042 since LAUNCH. SUPER EASY TO REPLICATE BTW zooming in and out with tanks sometimes youll be stuck with a consistent blackscreen until you zoom again

[next onyx]

(Lol) - It's such a tiny change but it's clean now.

[fervent rose]

that isnt going away

black screen bug been there since bf1

[copper rock]

I've never had it happen, so maybe not super easy to replicate

[fervent rose]

Really?

[elfin plank]

i would hope that bringing something up thats a valid concern that they would do something about it

[karmic egret]

gav can you pass this on to the team see if they can have a look at it. When in bright areas such as that on breakaway it is incredibly difficult to read the objective and health/gadget screen UI as it is almost basically transparent

[fervent rose]

maybe you just dont use vehicle enough. I get the black screen constantly on tanks

[elfin plank]

^ this af

[fervent rose]

i shoot at ui elements floating in a screen of black far too often

[next onyx]

Oh yeah that was a thing during bf5. It happened less when I upgraded to the series x so if I had to assume, It's probably some rendering thing?

[fervent rose]

yup it was a constant bf5 issue too when tanking

[elfin plank]

Bruh im on PC

[next onyx]

Actually nah I can't remember it happening at all in bf5 when I got the series x.

[elfin plank]

this is a game isssue

[lilac dust]

Isn't there already settings to change the colour and intensity of colours for that stuff? I may be wrong but I feel like I've seen streams change the colours and all that

[royal swan]

I realized the metal pipe sound is in bf4

[fervent rose]

it's just an engine bug

i assume

since its 3 games now with the same bug

[elfin plank]

probably a good idea to fix it yeah?

[copper rock]

Gav didn't write it down, guess it wont get fixed

[karmic egret]

no

[fervent rose]

all you gotta do is switch from 3rd to first a lot and you'll get it multiple times per round

most easily reproducible bug ever

[elfin plank]

^^^

[copper rock]

Gav has moved on

[lilac dust]

Video evidence or bust. These people are busy AF

[fervent rose]

oh well i dont expect that to be fixable anyway

[elfin plank]

theres literally no reason on earth to argue about the black screen bug not being an issue

[fervent rose]

not gonna record a bug thats been here since bf1

[elfin plank]

i dont get why people like to argue about issues that would benefit EVERYONE if they gotr fixed

[chilly jacinth]

It wont benefit me

[copper rock]

Whose arguing?

[chilly jacinth]

[copper rock]

sounds more like a discussion to me

[elfin plank]

"oh well i dont experience it" ** never drives tanks

like thanks guy

[karmic egret]

GAV DONT LEAVE ME

pls :c

[next onyx]

Gav back to work.

[copper rock]

Some people get triggered easily on here

[elfin plank]

mkay

[copper rock]

Anyway

[fervent rose]

i hope they make every specialist have their own loadout

[lilac dust]

Not sure if referring to my comment at all, but I don't doubt the black screen bug has been around for a while, but still. Gav made it crystal clear that he's incredibly busy as are all game devs. They have priorities. If a bug has been around for that long, then either very few people have provided evidence or it's a tough bug to crack

[next onyx]

I was thinking about that, Yo.

It would help engineer a lot.

[fervent rose]

the ui is so close to being incredible but i hate the swapping specialist within class issue

one final thing and i'd call it ballin

[next onyx]

Though I get that it a bit.

[karmic egret]

i hate the transparency on the UI

its good on maps like manifest

[elfin plank]

its a no on breakaway

[karmic egret]

but on breakaway it's near fuckin painful

[copper rock]

Agreed

[elfin plank]

non UI

[karmic egret]

cant see shit in the year 2042

[elfin plank]

but how about nuclear sun on every goddamn day time map

[next onyx]

You can modify the opacity.

[fervent rose]

some maps blinding, others dark if you have 50% brightness

i hate that too

[elfin plank]

dice really tried to go for that playing on a gopro experience

[fervent rose]

i play on like 60+ and flashpoint is way too shiny

[elfin plank]

cloudy day time would work too dice... you know

just saying

[next onyx]

I forgot my brightness.

[lilac dust]

Only 2 types of day/night cycle exist in 2042 - Blinding sun & Manifest

[low timber]

Is your MP28 progress still stuck?

[lilac dust]

Nah I fixed it by just going into a different playlist. Stayed stuck in discarded conquest for some reason lol

[low timber]

Probably some portal code remnants

[lilac dust]

Most likely

[karmic egret]

i call bull on that way

sorry to say

some elements have an opacity

but other critical parts the opacity is fucking terrible

[next onyx]

I probably just don't notice the HUD issues because of how I've coloured my own.

[unborn trout]

COD

cod >>>>shityfield

[fervent rose]

someone please control the toddler

[quaint vector]

[karmic egret]

cool go fanboy somewhere else

[next sorrel]

brokin bad

[next sorrel]

bro spelled shitty wrong

[gritty tapir]

cheating in a portal game is next level pathetic

[low timber]

Interesting, in BF:P4F there was a Deagle 50, so there’s 3 BF titles with Deagle’s and that one even has 50 in its name

[viscid hearth]

M95 please

[bitter mulch]

miss BF P4F, it was such a fun game, and great live service

[gritty tapir]

discarded breakthrough has some dogshit spawns lmao wtf

[livid swift]

got to play Orbital conquest 3 times in a row the other day, lovely matchmaking ❤️

[bitter mulch]

orbital is a good map, i never get orbital

[fervent rose]

thats all maps, but yes

discarded loves to spawn you outside of the boats with zero cover

[gritty tapir]

outside of the boat in the open and with enemies all around

[lilac dust]

LOL Apex finally added weapon progression and when you get a weapon to level 100 you don't even get an exclusive skin ... you just get an apex pack with a guaranteed random legendary skin that anyone can just buy without levelling any weapon 🤣 Battlefield 2042 wins this time. Ya done goofed apex

[gritty tapir]

i feel so dirty using the rm68

[slow tulip]

I have reached 100 on the battle pass is there anything else for me to do?

[lilac dust]

Absolutely. I reach level 100 in the background. I never pay attention to my challenges for it. The tier 1 weapon grind is what keeps me hooked to the game

[rustic mango]

Hey

[gritty tapir]

i should be able to commit a war crime and hide my glow sticks from the enemy

[slow tulip]

Shooting medics is a warcrime

Medics can carry firearms for self defense

Shooting at fleeing soldiers is also a warcrime

[stone cradle]

It's not a war crime if you don't get caught

[slow tulip]

You can't shoot at downed soldiers, which battlefield got that right

[stone cradle]

I always like making war crimes a checklist to do

[bitter mulch]

play and enjoy the game

still have S999 leveles

levels

[slow tulip]

I play COD for the campaign

[bitter mulch]

depends which one

[slow tulip]

Mw2

[bitter mulch]

its really good yes

[arctic grove]

why jets are even worse now 🗿

[arctic grove]

🤝

[upbeat sand]

Well for an extra 150 points u can get a max season badge

[fleet adder]

is there settings that can help me increase fps and fix stuttering?

I run other games like warzone fine but I cannot play a single game of battlefield 2042 without stuttering and low fps

[chilly jacinth]

Look up a user.cfg file online

Should help push out some more frames

[stone cradle]

https://youtu.be/NfKl3Kg_3oU

This video helped me increase my fps

There's also user.cfg files as arc mentioned

Search them up on YouTube. Your game ends up looking a bit crap at the cost of gaining like 30fps

[naive quiver]

Put everything in low , issues solved

[patent path]

hmm, can anyone equip the Hellion M5A3 skin?

it's disabled for me

[arctic grove]

I almost never get spearhead or Hourglass

[arctic grove]

Hellion?

[patent path]

the legendary white skin

[arctic grove]

Pic?

[patent path]

top right one

can't equip it reee

[arctic grove]

Honestly i have no idea i only got the obsidian skin for it

It's an liquiator skin or?

[patent path]

probably, I don't remember

[next onyx]

Yeah.

It's part of the season 2 event.

That's very odd.

[wary portal]

I'm on bp rank 98 my boys.

Hahaha

[plain hamlet]

getting close

[wary portal]

I'm gonna finish either this or next week mostly.

[plain hamlet]

I wish there were some post bp things

most games tend to do that

titles or sum

[quaint vector]

Yeah

[errant scarab]

No you need 4090 for 60 fps

[quaint vector]

I finished BP in Week 4 i believe...

So nothing much else to do... Besides Tier 1's

[arctic grove]

Already done

[quaint vector]

All.?

[arctic grove]

on BP Tier 1

[plain hamlet]

I like getting to T1 but also not at all cause i immediately don’t feel like playing the thing anymore

[quaint vector]

I ment Tier 1's on Vehicles, Weapons etc 😄

[plain hamlet]

i’ll get them to T1 with blood sweat and tears and will abandon them instantly afterwards, never to be touched again

[next onyx]

Fair resolution.

[upbeat sand]

I feel like just looking around on some of the non reworked maps like hourglass and really getting the time too look into the maps really sorta shows detail in some parts

Ya gameplay wise dog shit but ethsteticly wise

[patent path]

hourglass has a lot of destruction on the skyscrapers but since it's too big nobody noticed

iT DoeSN't hAVe DesTRUctioNs!!!

[slender isle]

No windows

you get to blow them all up

It's pretty cool imo

[patent path]

the snow map has some really amazing destruction too

if you shoot the gas tanks enough they blow up and change the color of the air around that area

[slender isle]

And make a ton of smoke to cover a push in breakthrough

[dapper birch]

anyone else having trouble with ea????

they say its loading slower then normal

[stone cradle]

Hourglass would be so cool as a night map.

Just like in the trailer

Fighting on neon-lit buildings

Looked so epic in the trailer

I hope in the next BF we get atleast 1 night map

[quaint vector]

Breakaway night map..

[stone cradle]

[quaint vector]

And Manifest during the day..

[inner ether]

That ice map has to be hte worst designed flags on Breakthrough that I've ever seen.

"We made a map where your point is surrounded from above by the attackers"

Ok thanks, I hate it

THere's literally no point in trying to defend it

Flanks are good

[stone cradle]

I always avoid breakaway on breakthrough.

[inner ether]

But Breakaway is so, so bad

[next onyx]

Breakaway is pain on defence because of the Osprey spam.

[stone cradle]

I've played alot less breakthrough on this game compared to V.

[next onyx]

But it's not a bad map on conquest.

Infact It's my favourite 128p map.

[inner ether]

Why do attackers get such a massive vehicle advantage?

[next onyx]

No idea.

[inner ether]

Being a defender is usually a miserable experience

Because the early section are made to be lost

So that the attackers cna feel like they did something

And then on the last section it tends to be much easier to defend

[shy forum]

That's why I quit the queue when I see that I will land on defense

[inner ether]

But this also means there's almost never any point in trying to defend the first two sections on any Breakthrough map at all

Unless attackers are really bad

[next onyx]

Gotta love dice pushing quick match only with non persistent lobbies.

[stone cradle]

Didn't dice say 60/40 chance for attackers and defenders? Feels like 80 for attackers..

[inner ether]

Not sure why they dont make it a 50/50

20% difference is absurd

[mental delta]

How we get logistic ribbons please ?

I need 25

But idk how to get those

[inner ether]

Ammo box?

[mental delta]

Appart from ammo boxes

[stone cradle]

Ah it's 51/49

[edgy oriole]

health box

[stone cradle]

Not 60/40

[mental delta]

Because it's long af to get 25 due to ammo boxes resupply delay being too long

[edgy oriole]

you can be angel and use crate, heal ammo box, ammo pouch. or falck ammo heal box, health gun

[next onyx]

Just throw ammo boxes into groups of teammates.

You'll get it over time.

[mental delta]

Thanks but I already use Falck with ammo resupply and it's long af, I'm healing and resupplying everyone and the mission only is completed at 9/25

I played like this for 5 games

Is it me or is the ammo resupply delay really long ?

[edgy oriole]

you can only get 3 per game so its gonna be slow anyways. if you throw it in a group of 5+ it fills up very quick

so ignore obj and just go where the most teammates bunch up

[mental delta]

My teammates already do it, it's like a raw and harsh concurrence between support players rn

[mental delta]

Why only 3 per game ?

[edgy oriole]

you can only get 3 ribbons per cat max

[mental delta]

Wow idk that

[edgy oriole]

you get 1 when it goes to logi 2. then 2 when it gets to logi 3 and once logi 3 bar fills you get the 3rd.

[next onyx]

Weird looking back using the ammo box as an assault.

Oh well.

I'm happier for this current system.

[fervent rose]

assault barely needs it now

[next onyx]

Bad co 2 assault seems based though.

Running ammo and TNT?

[fervent rose]

you get like 250 more bullets per spawn with AR

[stone cradle]

Hopefully the next BF has traditional classes, but no restrictions on weapons.

[next onyx]

I wish the other classes had more ammo with their designated weapons.

[stone cradle]

But gun proficiencies like we have now.

[fervent rose]

everything needs more ammo ye

and engineers need more rocket ammo

[stone cradle]

I would like sub-classes too like in V. Like the combat medic and field medic.

[fervent rose]

its such a struggle trying to use the recoilless

compared to bfv Piat

[stone cradle]

I need my faster sprinting when running to downed teammate

[fervent rose]

i'm always out of rocket ammo in this stupid game

[stone cradle]

I hope we see the return of ressuply stations from V

[low timber]

Only if you had a gun without a grenade launcher though, in the original.

[next onyx]

Yeah.

[inner ether]

That feeling when you as the driver see enemies right next to the tank and you're writing in caps in your squad chat to the gunner who DOESNT NOTICE

why are people like this

[chilly jacinth]

They uninstall their eyes when gaming

[inner ether]

I was just a gunner in a Brawler

the driver stops, gets out and leaves

just abandons it

[stone cradle]

Gunners and some recons who are prone legit feel like they have 20 fov

I've killed so many recons who are prone, standing right next to them

[inner ether]

And no ears

I'm not even exaggerating

they hear nothing

[stone cradle]

Legit feels like that

Though I guess the sound design in this game isn't as great as the previous titles

[slow tulip]

Squad system in bf2042 sucks

[inner ether]

Do people evne know you can use Q to spot people with?

[stone cradle]

BFV and 1 audio was perfect. Even with crappy headphones

[slow tulip]

Bf5 has a far better squad system

[chilly jacinth]

I can hear people perfectly fine in this game

[stone cradle]

I remember hearing someone kill a teammate outside a house, so I went towards the door and killed them when they barged through.

That guy called me a hacker

[inner ether]

THere's usually so much going on that it's hard to use sound in this game

Way too many explosives

[inner ether]

If you wanna mess with snipers play Casper. Start flying your drone straight into them, that spooks them, makes them shoot at it and die because they stood up

[stone cradle]

[bitter mulch]

same for hourglass, spearhead i get alot

[bitter mulch]

yeah it, but the days version is also pretty probably the most of all maps

[edgy oriole]

im on a 7 streak in a row for hourglass rn

[stone cradle]

Most I got was 5 in a row

[edgy oriole]

i got 5 discarded in a row. i bitched about it in here and now ive gotten nothing but hourglass. i got an ai lobby of exposure but i left that bc playercount wouldnt go above 15 real players

[inner ether]

shot a guy in the face 3 times with 25mm, 14HP taken

[fickle wharf]

Is camping on the roofs of the cubes in spearhead a valid strat

[edgy oriole]

of course its solid. defense doesnt have any air vehicles for some reason

[inner ether]

and the Hind is still OP

[fickle wharf]

Try to hover over a objective and see what happens

Unless enemy engineers dont give a damm

[inner ether]

20% more damage taken means fuck all when you cant even hit it to begin with

[fickle wharf]

Skill issue

[mental delta]

They got Lis

[edgy oriole]

lis launches kisses at transport

[mental delta]

I think it deals like 50 points of damages even in the cockpit

And I said points lol

Not 50%

[edgy oriole]

lis def doesnt do half damage

[mental delta]

Yeah and on ground vehicles you can forget about it, people in breakthrough just camp with tanks behind trophy system

[inner ether]

The map I'm on has a team that seems to be almost all Irish

They built a 3-layer wall

[copper ice]

[inner ether]

Is it possible to post screenshots?

[mighty holly]

You can send a link if says screenshot

[remote kiln]

!!regular

[tender pendant]

The Regular role is earned by users automatically who are active in chat and follow the server rules. With this role you can post/embed images, use some bot commands, and get a special color in chat.

[remote kiln]

or have the booster role

[inner ether]

By the way, why play Rao?

Casper drone can EMP, safer and from further away.

While spotting

[ebon pilot]

infantry and vehicle hacks

[inner ether]

I even chase after helis

But EMP and hack has no difference

I dare say the EMP is better

[fervent rose]

rao with emp nades and c5 can fight vehicles better than casper. but rao is pretty underpowered besides cheese tactics with smoke

the cheese smoke stuff on display in the above

[kindred flint]

Had one last night that I'm not sure ever died .. mostly because I think my team was shit at anti air..we won just barely but being farmed by a hovering hind so close to the ground over and over is fun /s

[inner ether]

https://imgur.com/bFvllJj

Loading screen bug

[acoustic seal]

the absolute state of this game

[inner ether]

the hack takes way too long

EMP is almost instant

I can't lose sight of what I EMP

LOS doesn't matter for the drone

I can EMP more often than I can hack something

Hack is short, takes too long and makes you very vulnerable

[copper ice]

hack isn't practical for ground vehicles outside of disabling them outside of emp range, which also makes them outside of kill distance

it's nice to have a long range emp but casper does that better and safer

rao is for smokes and helis

[livid swift]

anyone had a bug where even on ultra textures, the game would look all muddy?

[inner ether]

I can fly the drone as far as Rao can hack anything at

While not putting myself at risk

[copper ice]

tbh i prefer casper for vehicle hunting because you can sit in a bush behind them (in the rare scenario they're not borderline oob), drone them, then c5 them if they back up into you

either way none of the recon abilities are actually very good for c5 hunting so you're picking them mainly for leapfrogging toward the tank with spawn beacons

[inner ether]

Yepp, you get a much better view to do so as well

[copper ice]

the birds eye view does help a shitload tbh

[inner ether]

It's great for playing aggro Casper

[copper ice]

you get to see if they have any backup or anything even if you dont use it to EMP

casper is actually really cool if you use the drone aggressively but it's just designed in such a boring way to encourage flying 100m up and scanning for the whole match

[inner ether]

EMP is collateral too

it can destroy or EMP objects close to each other

[copper ice]

it's like a long range rechargeable emp nade that also spots

[inner ether]

yeah

[copper ice]

tbh casper drone would still be awesome even if it didn't spot

I'd like him more if it was slightly faster and lost the ability to spot i think

Would encourage more fun playstyles with it

rather than the current UAV shit

maybe if it had a thermal toggle

So it could identify people camping

so you can avoid getting blapped by bush campers without spotting the entire enemy team at the same time

or just give thermal to Zain so he's even better at annihilating everything behind cover than he already is

[inner ether]

Rarely do I see anyone play Zain well

[copper ice]

I don't see many zain players but all the ones i do use him pretty well

tbh i think its really hard to misuse the airburst right now

It's very strong

[carmine rover]

i know how to fix the bug where you cant see the flag status while capturing a flag in conquest

[chilly jacinth]

Alt+f4

[carmine rover]

you dont have to do that 😅

it depends where you spawn in for the first time in a match

if you spawn inside an objective for the first time. like if you spawn on a teammate and they are capturing it and you want to capture it with them. and you spawn inside the flag area. it will be bugged for the entire match and you wont ever see the flag statuses for other flags

[chilly jacinth]

Can confirm that doesn't matter

[carmine rover]

but if u spawn outside of it. like at base for example. u can see flag statuses

[carmine rover]

what do you mean ?

i noticed it while i was playing last night and it definitely works

[chilly jacinth]

It has happened to me from the first game i played for the day

Spawning in at the main spawn

[carmine rover]

well poor luck for you. whenever i spawn at base, or anywhere not in an objective. i can see the flag statuses. and whenever i do spawn in inside the objective, i cant.

it depends for your very first spawn in, like when the match first started and when u spawn in for the first time

[mighty moat]

Man, season 4 has impressive changes

I feel like the class system didnt need to exist but my complaint of not being able to have a repair tool and a rocket launcher has been midigated so at least i'm happy

And hit detection actually working when you shoot at people is quite awesome

Honestly think the game is more battlefield now than when the game first came out

It doesnt feel akward to place, the menu doesnt look beta, the addition of the bf3 and bc2 guns to the main modes is also a treat

Idk what else to say was a good change but i will say i wish we had more rocket launcher options

Does anyone know how long they're trying to make 2042 last till bf6 is announced?

[carmine rover]

does universal skins include tier 1 and carbon series?

also new tweet from battlefield

about vault weapons

[solemn shore]

probably not

[mighty moat]

What do you mean by vault weapons?

[stone cradle]

Guns from portal

Put into AOW

[carmine rover]

look at battlefield new tweet

https://twitter.com/battlefield/status/1653791945536282627?s=46&t=nsbviPrKyjQgT9pNc3Po9Q

Battlefield (@Battlefield)

Vault Weapons are about to get more versatile 🔫

Check out the new Dev Notes blog to learn more about Vault Weapon Attachments, Skins, and Weapon Balance coming in Season 5 👇

https://t.co/qwWdVgDPal

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[mighty moat]

More guns from bf3 and bc2 or guns from 1942 finally?

[stone cradle]

[mighty moat]

Also, has anything been added to portal since season 1?

[stone cradle]

No

Ripple confirmed they won't ever update Portal

[mighty moat]

Why's that?

[stone cradle]

Because they're on a new BF now

[mighty moat]

You talking about 2042 or 6?

[stone cradle]

Neither

It's a seperate game

We don't have much details about it

[fervent rose]

m16 extended

[mighty moat]

Oh, what happened to the guy from bungie working on 6?

[fervent rose]

oh lordy they also gave the aek 40 bullets

[stone cradle]

Lehto? He started up his own studio

They're doing the campaign - Ridgeline

[mighty moat]

Wait, so the main modes for 2042 dont get major updates?

[stone cradle]

Zampella is directing it with a few guys from Respawn too.

[mighty moat]

Campaign ridgeline??

[stone cradle]

AOW

Hazard Zone got a few but then was abandoned

I think it was left after S1?

[stone cradle]

Ridgeline is the name of Lehto's new studio

[mighty moat]

I didnt like it anyways, it doesnt play like a br and they tried to use it to compete with warzone so...

[mighty moat]

Oh, and the studio is doing the campaign for the new game?

[mighty moat]

What is aow?

[stone cradle]

All out Warfare

The main mode

[fervent rose]

it's their new name for the main game

[stone cradle]

Yes

[mighty moat]

Oh, yeah

[fervent rose]

theres also portal and the very dead hazard zone

[mighty moat]

Aow still gets major updates like changes new maps and weapons or just unvaulted stuff and minor fixes?

[fervent rose]

and portal is barely used, mostly cheese servers

[stone cradle]

Yes, it's the focus rn

[mighty moat]

When it first came out it was highly used. Now no one gives a crap

[naive quiver]

“ Cheese servers “

[stone cradle]

Every 'season' we get major new content

[fervent rose]

800% damage server = cheese

[mighty moat]

At least it's still getting major updates, this season got me impressed when i played last night

[fervent rose]

thats the main one i see. i also see xp farms

[stone cradle]

The real cheese servers were made by DICE

Remember the zombie event?

Easy event to farm levels

[naive quiver]

dice bring us battlefield 2043 pls

[stone cradle]

Yeah, season 5 is confirmed, and supposedly this game is getting support beyond that too, hopefully.

[stone cradle]

2143 when

[naive quiver]

https://tenor.com/view/soon-okay-real-soon-very-quickly-in-a-second-just-a-moment-gif-15029375

[mighty holly]

Epic

[wide shore]

Those vault weapon changes on the blog look promising.

We’ll see

[carmine rover]

i hope we get t1 camos

thats all im hoping for

[sharp marten]

You’re a T1 camo

[carmine rover]

yeah

[sharp marten]

Alright settle down

[carmine rover]

meow

[next sorrel]

new vietnam game first pls

[misty briar]

Really hope that. If u give it a chance after the start and the beta this game is alot of fun and i wanna spend alot of time in it in future

[solid imp]

I think we're technically in the year 2043 in game lore right?

[wide shore]

Please

[stone cradle]

The game starts out in the year 2039 I think

They didn't mention anything about the years in the new seasons

[next sorrel]

or just... a new vietnam game

[stone cradle]

I will only accept this Johan and Patrick return for composing the soundtrack

[wide shore]

Cold War era game in general

[stone cradle]

I think it would be cool for a cold war BF to have Vietnam and the Korean war together.

[naive quiver]

Yes you’re right . Too far away

[quaint vector]

Season 5 attachments for Vault Weapons, Let's Gooooo

[solid imp]

wait wait how long has the spawn screen been changing around the order of specialists in the classes??

[low timber]

M16A3: MAUL Hybrid 1.5X, TV 2X, UH-1 Smart 1.5X, 8R Holo, SHAN 2.5X, Bravo 3X, M22, Covered Suppressor, Warhawk Compensator, Tactical Compensator, Arcom Tactical Muzzle Break, Champion Muzzle Break, 6KU Suppressor, Cobra Grip, BCG Light Grip, LWG grip, Rattlesnake Light Grip, STNR Laser Sight, T4 Thermal 3X, PB Heavy Suppressor, Type 4 Heavy Suppressor, Extended Magazine, LS-1 Laser Sight, Flashlight.

AEK-971: XDR Holo, K8 Holo, SHAN 2.5x, Bravo 3X, M22, Raven 4X, PSO-1M3, Ghost Hybrid 1.25X, Covered Suppressor, Warhawk Compensator, Tactical Compensator, Arcom Tactical Muzzle Brake, Champion Muzzle Brake, 6KU Suppressor, Cobra Grip, LS-1 Laser Sight, Flashlight, Extended Magazine.

[next sorrel]

vietnam dlc had like 3 weapons for each class its definitely beatable with enough production value and GOOD decisions, altho dice might be incapable of those

[low timber]

No fusion Holo

[quaint vector]

I still have it in default, nothing new for me

[low timber]

I think the attack on Black Ridge (Exposure) happened in 2043? And I mean the attack that made the hill collapse and not the US Vs RU you play in.

[radiant prism]

yeah Black Ridge takes place in early 2043

Actually wait I think its Stranded that happens in 2043?

[next sorrel]

no 2043 boys

[radiant prism]

Idk

Either way were way into 2043 lorewise

[royal swan]

The universal skins for the vault weapons (only saw the m16 and the aek) look awesome

[solid imp]

I thought maybe it's sorting your main specialists but that can't be it otherwise I'd have Falck and Rao first in line respectively

but it wasn't just one time, it's every spawn 🤔

[radiant prism]

Where can I see those?

[low timber]

Well Crawford joins Exodus in 2043

[royal swan]

Dev notes

https://www.ea.com/en-gb/games/battlefield/battlefield-2042/news/dev-notes-evolving-vault-weapons

[next sorrel]

bf2042

[solid imp]

correct game

[copper ice]

Why are all your specialists backwards

[solid imp]

exactly my question

but not even backwards

I could explain that away as a weird bug

[fervent rose]

look at this guy his specialists are out of order

[woven acorn]

A common bug I still get is a black screen after a match has ended. Hasn't this been around for many many months?

[solid imp]

it has been around for many many months

[next sorrel]

probably

[copper ice]

They're trying to escape the game

Breaking loose

[mighty holly]

Let them be free

[woven acorn]

extremely annoying considering it's been there over numerous updates

but

[next sorrel]

2042 moment

[stone cradle]

He has some very special specialists

[woven acorn]

the capture flag ui was broken for weeks too where you couldn't tell if any enemies were on the flag with you

[arctic grove]

anyone wanna play?

@hexed mango @edgy oriole @wide shore @proud gorge What the battlefield community really wants.

[ebon pilot]

https://tenor.com/view/general-grievous-grievous-star-wars-clone-wars-clone-wars2003-gif-24918580

[wide shore]

[elfin coral]

Hot

[arctic grove]

[wide shore]

I’m sure Way is very happy hearing the M16 getting an extendo mag

[arctic grove]

I want a NTW extended mag.

[wide shore]

Pls no

[royal swan]

💩

[naive quiver]

I prefer front a bit more open that’ll be amazing

[arctic grove]

You say that but bf2042 will see a 100% increase in boins

DICE needs to compete with COD weebs.

[hexed mango]

☺️

[solid imp]

I want the transports to not be able to backcap the rear objective in BT within the first couple seconds of defenders being told to start retreating from the previous base

[naive quiver]

i don't like her razer helmet

[remote kiln]

they should just add it so people stop asking for weeb skins

[naive quiver]

[arctic grove]

Since launch really. Might as well embrace the cod clone

[mighty holly]

Hear me out

Full blown anime skins

[arctic grove]

DICE too scared

[naive quiver]

Add some Genshin Impact skins too

[remote kiln]

tbf it would sell that many it would practically fund a year 3

[arctic grove]

Easy

[mighty holly]

It just works afterall

[arctic grove]

Bro it would fund 5 years easily.

[mighty holly]

hear me out

[elfin coral]

[mighty holly]

Also Furry skins

[naive quiver]

https://tenor.com/view/zhongli-genshin-imact-zhongli-genshin-impact-genshin-impact-gif-22107644

[mighty holly]

boom 10 chapters in total and it’ll fund the game for 10 years

[remote kiln]

I agree what they should do instead is be both a land, and air vehicle (those of you reading this yes this is exactly what you're thinking), so when you touch the ground they turn into armoured vehicles with wheels with turrets, then when it takes off it goes back to normal

[mighty moat]

Lol, have you played 2142?

[mighty moat]

Yeah, that's good cause some of the improvements they've made since season 3 almost give me the same feeling as when i played bf5

Most people probably dont agree but i think the mechanics for the soldier in bf5 are the most refined and best they've been in the series

[remote kiln]

there's a very high chance the year 2 announcement is coming soon

the pass was updated with a placeholder price

[mighty moat]

More than bf4 enough that i wont go back to play bf4 on pc without aim assist

[mighty moat]

I honestly hate the battlepass system

[mighty holly]

Same

[mighty moat]

I only buy the ones in fortnite cause the cosmetics are fun

[remote kiln]

year pass, not the battle pass

[mighty moat]

They arent forced

The only good thing cod did was make it so guns are p2w

[stone cradle]

Yeah, servers went on until 2014

[mighty moat]

At least anymore since aw

[mighty moat]

There's a private server now

[remote kiln]

I mean no easy answer

[stone cradle]

titan mode was a vibe

[remote kiln]

it's this, or back to locked paid dlc

so pick your poison

[stone cradle]

Yeah I know, I occasionally hop onto it from time to time

[mighty holly]

Ngl locked paid dlcs had more to offer right

[stone cradle]

Way more

[mighty moat]

I need to reinstall my game but i'll do it at some point and play again

[stone cradle]

We got 4 maps in every dlc

Alot better than 1 with 2 new guns

[mighty moat]

Yes, season passes to me were better because you could pay up front to secure content you know will be good (with exception)

[wide shore]

May have had more content. But people who didn’t buy the dlc couldn’t ever get the guns. And the maps had expiration dates.

[remote kiln]

if exposure was launched as a paid DLC, there is a grand total of a 0% chance anybody tries 2042 ever again

it would have died there and then

[stone cradle]

Well yeah, because the launch was bad

[mighty moat]

The reason battle passes fail is because say a game has them and not a single player buys one, well now you're free content gets scrapped because they arent making the profit to offer it

[wide shore]

I felt jipped on Exposure and it was free

[mighty moat]

No one buying a battlepass turns a bad game worse with a lack of content

[stone cradle]

If it was like BF1 launch then there would be no problems with paid dlc

[remote kiln]

I mean the system seems monetarily sustainable

[wide shore]

Paid DLC is dead and shouldn’t come back.

[mighty moat]

What is exposure? A map?

[misty briar]

i liked the battlepass, was easy to rush thru

[remote kiln]

based on what DICE have said anyways

[gusty needle]

@mighty moat yeah the canadian one

[mighty moat]

It isnt and i dont agree. I think it's still here but triple a studios dont want to do it anymore

[remote kiln]

oh it is 100% dead

[mighty holly]

If bfv had paid dlcs

[remote kiln]

for better or not

the industry has moved on

[gusty needle]

any update on universal vault weapon skins? Do we know if that includes tier 1 skins?

[mighty moat]

You have to be good to do that, i cant snipe people cross map or even see them sometimes to be good enough to finish a battle pass quickly

[wide shore]

Because A, this system makes more money. And B, this is the current trend. And even as an unintended consequence, this is much more consumer friendly.

[remote kiln]

tier 1 was not mentioned explicitly, but checked pinned messages

[gusty needle]

i saw a mutual comment on that before but i dont believe there was an answer

[stone cradle]

Live service has conditioned us to accept such little content dripfed to us

[gusty needle]

@remote kiln i'll go look

[mighty moat]

That's not true. There's plenty games that still do. Payday released like 3 dlc this year so far

[remote kiln]

yeah but payday is also dead

so that's not a very good comparison

[gusty needle]

idk about dead, its got a cult following

[wide shore]

We’ll see if Payday 3 decides to go that route.

[remote kiln]

the developer literally nearly went bankrupt lmao

[wide shore]

My guess is they probably won’t

[mighty holly]

really kek

[gusty needle]

if the golden spoon is any indication, atl. tho that was propped up by russian badger

[stone cradle]

Paid dlc sucked, but man, live service has conditioned studios to do the bare minimum 😔

[gusty needle]

fr, 1 map per season...

[wide shore]

I certainly ain’t saying the amount of content we get is good. But the system is better

[gusty needle]

at least the new weapons, gadgets, and vehicles are fun

[mighty holly]

But why can’t they do both paid and live dlcs

[misty briar]

well dont snipe and kills comes faster :D

[gusty needle]

@mighty holly the issue with paid dlc was it split the playerbase.

[mighty holly]

oof lamo

[stone cradle]

Every studio wants to be like Epic with Fortnite

[wide shore]

People who pay money shouldn’t have an unfair advantage. And they did for many years. So many years of premium players getting guns the people who didn’t wanna pay get.

[stone cradle]

But they don't even try to be like Epic with Fortnite

[misty briar]

having a weapon others dont becuz they didnt pay money isnt unfair

[dapper river]

"it's dead because I don't play it "

[wide shore]

It definitely is. Especially when a DLC weapon is really good. It’s literal P2W

[gusty needle]

looks like 24k average playercount daily

[stone cradle]

That game gets alot of flak, but it has a steady stream of content nearly every week.

[remote kiln]

hey u keep the early access secret I enjoyed abusing the weapons

[misty briar]

thats not the issue with the weapons but with the ppl who balance it

thats the unfair part

[wide shore]

It’s a double edged sword that shouldn’t exist.

[gusty needle]

idk, aek in bf4 was a base weapon

[misty briar]

there are many games with many guns that u have to pay for that are below average

[remote kiln]

the funny part is you literally could not buy the dlc separately, when premium got early access to it

[wide shore]

Either you make the paid guns good, and it’s P2W, or you make them shit, and there’s no point in unlocking them.

[remote kiln]

which was the level of fuckery shenanigans back then

[mighty holly]

I mean just have 3 pog maps for paid dlc and 1 mid map and weapons for live service

[wide shore]

There is no happy medium there. The only good solution is no paid guns.

[gusty needle]

You can easily make them sidegrades, like the bulldog from bf4

[wide shore]

Which is how it should be.

And thankfully how it is

[misty briar]

thats why u bring op weapons p2w ingame and nerf them after a monthj

[wide shore]

That’s so incredibly stupid

[misty briar]

thats how to make money

[stone cradle]

Or for companies to actually be half as good as Epic

[misty briar]

but sucks for players

[stone cradle]

[wide shore]

That’s also how you fuck over your fanbase. Which DICE cannot keep affording to do

[remote kiln]

but yeah the copium paid dlc users keep silent about the dlcs being totally dead within 12 months of their launch, cause everybody doesn't play it anymore

[gusty needle]

what i really didnt like was locking easter eggs behind a paywall. it took me several hours trying to help multiple people get the peacekeeper before realizing they bought each individual dlc instead of premium and couldnt do the ee's

[remote kiln]

which means anyone else buying it literally can't find a server

[stone cradle]

I mean they already burnt us bad with 'love letter' 2042

[misty briar]

but we talk about 42 no?

[wide shore]

DLC maps have always had expiration dates.

[gusty needle]

true

[wide shore]

Portal*

[bitter mulch]

Paid DLC woudnt work now, people would not buy it

[stone cradle]

it was meant for portal?

[wide shore]

Pay almost the price of the game, to preorder 16 maps and guns you have no clue if they’ll be good. And will only last as long as the community keeps them perched up.

[stone cradle]

Wow, now the point is even more ironic

[bitter mulch]

Battlepass is cheaper and its a choice

[remote kiln]

as much shit as 2042 got at launch and rightfully so, the progression system is objectively the best in the franchise for how they've implemented it

[gusty needle]

people really didnt buy them to begin with

[remote kiln]

bf5 1 4 were all a total mess

[gusty needle]

idk i really liked hardline but thats just me

[stone cradle]

How was 1 a mess?

[remote kiln]

hardline doesn't exist we don't mention that

[stone cradle]

Very stable launch.

[wide shore]

He’s saying the progression

Not the launch

[gusty needle]

hardlines great, best arsenal in the franchise

[misty briar]

there are always some ppl that would buy it, im one of them. also why talk about p2w weapons or any map dlcs that should be free when there is a shop for skins that are insanly overpriced lol

[stone cradle]

Idk, V's progression was pretty ok.

[wide shore]

Because skins don’t affect the gameplay in any way.

[stone cradle]

It just was kinda barebones

[gusty needle]

only bf game with an akm, and the m82 isnt battle pickup but still somehow balanced

[misty briar]

but still. id rather pay dlcs than any of these skins for that price

[wide shore]

Okay. But you don’t have to. Which is better

[misty briar]

if u pay them for actual good work instead of shit skins that would be more productive imo

[remote kiln]

^

[bitter mulch]

well not alot of people. Skins can be overpriced. You dont need it, its not affecting the gameplay. Guns and maps are

[remote kiln]

class levels, were more confusing than ironically just giving everyone everything

[gusty needle]

what percent of the playerbase buys skins, and what percent bought dlc/premuim

[wide shore]

Paying for content doesn’t always mean it’ll be good content. Case and point, majority of BF4’s DLC maps

[mighty holly]

wouldn’t a paid dlc also have more cosmetic skins

[misty briar]

thats why they should get paid if the dlc is actually good

[misty briar]

idk. gimme that data

[remote kiln]

the data doesn't exist

[bitter mulch]

thats not how development works

[gusty needle]

im not making the positive

[remote kiln]

but run the numbers, premium would be a $60 purchase nowadays

[stone cradle]

Idk, it was a pretty easy to understand system for me.