battlefield-2042

[sour meadow]

too bad EA pulled the plug on it

to give us 2042

[bold pawn]

the games only real crimes were

A. "Dont buy it"
B. Abandoning it for this 2042 POS fuck fest

[bold pawn]

DUDe im a BIG SWBFII player

EA RAPED that game

it is still one of the best games ever

and they just were like, yep gbye

[sour meadow]

no d-day

no soviets

criminal

[placid echo]

Still had a good amount of content for a WWII game technically

But yeah it could have gotten more

I'd kill for Stalingrad or Wake Island in portal tho (not literally of course)

[ebon pilot]

rate my card

[bold pawn]

this is false

it was fucking incomplete

[sour meadow]

epic af dude

so FUCKING epic bro

[placid echo]

I mean, a good amount of WWII games have one 'campaign' or big 'operation'

[next sorrel]

0/0

[placid echo]

UK vs Germany in the Desert Campaign, Americans vs Germany, Pacific Campaign, early WWII with Norway and Rotterdam, etc

[ebon pilot]

undefined thank you

[bold pawn]

where the japans?

that whole theater

[placid echo]

It still covers a rather decent amount of WWII, just not the specific parts people think about

[bold pawn]

how r u defending these fucktards

they made THIS POS game

that is just barely playable

after fucking yhears

they stopped development on 2 games that were loved by their fanbase

[placid echo]

I'm just saying, for a WWII game, it covers a good amount of ground

I am not really saying my opinion on it at all here

[sour meadow]

it covers ground but not much ground that people would normally care about

[sturdy socket]

I LOVE THE RIMJOB68 I LOVE THE RIMJOB68

[sour meadow]

it was bold to try and cover all of the conflict

[sturdy socket]

CAN'T WAIT FOR IT TO GET A SLIGHT NERF AND IT ONLY TOOK THEM 10 WEEKS

[placid echo]

That's my point

[sour meadow]

i mean what would you rather have

d-day

or fjell

[edgy oriole]

wait for the 1 broken vault weapon my guy

i need to ask alex what his fav vault weapon so i can get a head start

[elfin plank]

Cant wait for the nerfs to come in so everyone can see how bad most of the weapons are

[sturdy socket]

i think i'm just gonna refrain from playing today

if i get tor'd again my brain will explode

[elfin plank]

but then is battlefield, shitters will never stop crying

[sturdy socket]

i sure bet it is hard to not make a weapon overly powerful

[acoustic seal]

for me it's rm68 background, then mackay medpen rm68 tier 1 badges

[sturdy socket]

and it'll take five weeks instead of a hotfix for a weapon to get a slight nerf

[elfin plank]

i bet its hard to believe that dice wont over nerf it

[acoustic seal]

the shit needs to go down a damage tier, there is no reason to have a faster scar with every good attachment in the game

[sturdy socket]

^

[elfin plank]

yeah no

buff m416 instead

[sturdy socket]

oh right it's you

justifying every weapon imbalance by saying "WELL THERE WILL ALWAYS BE BETTER WEAPONS"

[elfin plank]

yeah the person that doesnt take casuals opinions seriously

[carmine rover]

meow

[edgy oriole]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/943795127871242301/1100304796898054245/sam_hyde_cabinet.gif

[carmine rover]

why 😢

[edgy oriole]

[elfin plank]

Not even close to anything ive ever said but... go ahead guy

points for reading comprehension

[sturdy socket]

points for having a bad take

you get 68

anywho

[elfin plank]

Sorry im better than you and have a better understanding on how weapon balance should work

[edgy oriole]

once they nerf rm ill just go back to the m5. unless a vault weapon ends up being broke. which it prolly will

[elfin plank]

ill try to dumb it down next time

[sturdy socket]

still waiting on that bf4 duel by the way buddy

[rancid plinth]

Im glad were at the point in battlefield’s life cycle where the steaming pile of poopoo turns into a masterpiece

[next sorrel]

ngl you both are fools for even owning 2042

[royal swan]

Conquest is sooooo boring

[edgy oriole]

cq very boring TRUE

[sturdy socket]

friend bought it for me so I have an excuse

[elfin plank]

Soon itll be a battlefield where all the weapons are mediocre because of casual tears

[acoustic seal]

once rm68 gets nerfed we're going back to scar meta

[next sorrel]

masterpiece

[edgy oriole]

m5 is better than the scar

[acoustic seal]

the scar is still insane, the bsvm is still insane post nerf

[sturdy socket]

ah yes, there should always be a handful of weapons that overshadow all others instead of balancing them to have actual strengths and weaknesses

[edgy oriole]

always has

[copper ice]

when everything is 0 recoil then damage and rof are kings

[rancid plinth]

[copper ice]

and scar has best damage

[elfin plank]

rm68 bad but scar fine? lmao

[copper ice]

the gunplay is so poo in this game that there's barely any way to balance it

[royal swan]

Glad I only need to play conquest once

[edgy oriole]

also TRUE

[next sorrel]

to own it but not to be playing it

[rancid plinth]

for only having 20 bullets by default the rm68 is pretty balanced

[elfin plank]

Lemme guess the m416 with its god awful bloom is also... fine?

[sturdy socket]

at the very least i expect an attempt

[copper ice]

[edgy oriole]

i was lucky and joined a ending CQ game so i didnt even need to play

[copper ice]

ok very true

[royal swan]

Lmao

[elfin plank]

^

slow reload low ammo count low ammo pool

pretty balanced to me

[rancid plinth]

Yup

[edgy oriole]

rm reload is painfully slow tbh

[sturdy socket]

jeez i wonder what increases it to 30

cant

[edgy oriole]

it hurts reloading that bad boy

[sturdy socket]

put a pin on it

hm

i sure do wonder

what negates that

[elfin plank]

It must hurt to be bad at 2042 the easiest bf in history

[copper ice]

ammo pool is irrelevant with 500 extra ammo types, extended mag exists, close quarters mag exists with 30 rounds and faster reload

[elfin plank]

then come on the discord and cry nerf

[sturdy socket]

your arguments are amazing honestly

nice dodge as well

[next sorrel]

it must hurt to be playing this game

then come on discord and be annoying

[copper ice]

easiest bf ever
why do you want the easiest bf nerfed

maybe so it isnt easy?

[elfin plank]

why are you in the battlefield server if its a fools game?

[sturdy socket]

"you shouldn't complain about weapons overshadowing others, you're just bad at the game if you think any weapons need rebalancing"

[elfin plank]

casual logic

[sturdy socket]

fucking has to be ironic

[copper ice]

because bf has potential

[sturdy socket]

at this point

[rancid plinth]

What’s you guys’ aggro loadout? Im shitting with the pbx extended mag

[next sorrel]

cuz the other battlefield games exist

[copper ice]

devs just like to squander it

use pbx close quarters ammo

[royal swan]

This conversation is going to get me cancer

[sturdy socket]

@elfin plankdo everyone a favor and stop clogging chat with your overly shit takes

[copper ice]

Its got the wrong values so it's really strong

[elfin plank]

Rm68 literally has counterparts that do its job better, yet here we are crying till the room fills with salt

"wahhhh this guy disagrees with me wahhh" calm down son

[sturdy socket]

i think if I have to hear another of your "arguments" amounting to "rebalancing bad"

lmao

[copper ice]

the only thing other guns do better than rm68 is have larger mag size

it beats them at everything else

[elfin plank]

so the ac42 isnt better at range then the rm68?

you sound foolish

[copper ice]

no lol

[elfin plank]

yeah youre buggin lmao

[next sorrel]

just play bc2

[copper ice]

look at the numbers man

[elfin plank]

welp time for a topic change because its clear yall DONT know what youre talking about

[edgy oriole]

m5 beat rm at close and medium range

[sturdy socket]

don't engage, it's just a loop of "i'll ignore everything you said and just say it's a skill issue"

[edgy oriole]

thats all imma say

[copper ice]

m5 doesnt beat rm up close

[edgy oriole]

it does

[copper ice]

it's 5btk

rm short barrel is over 700rpm 4btk

[next sorrel]

just play an actually good bf game

[elfin plank]

So with all of these "opinions" on the rm68. i just wanna ask, on average where do yall sit on the scoreboards?

[copper ice]

700rpm 4btk > 860rpm 5btk

[elfin plank]

my thoughts based off of these... assumptions is the bottom

[copper ice]

what an original insult

[sturdy socket]

what did i tell you lmao

literally just parrots saying skill issue

[elfin plank]

Yeah no one in their right mind would take a bad players thoughts seriously lmao

[sturdy socket]

i don't think he's ever touched a gun that wasn't massively meta

[copper ice]

i concede to that

[sturdy socket]

or even knows what weapon balance is

[elfin plank]

You fail to understand reading comprehension so theres that lmao

[next sorrel]

i think everyone should stop playing this game

[elfin plank]

i think this community needs a purge

tired of the trash

[sturdy socket]

i don't think it takes much comprehension to realize you're babbling on about pointless shit repeatedly

[next sorrel]

purge everyone who owns bf2042

[elfin plank]

So you cant read?

got it

[sturdy socket]

ah yes

very good argument

[copper ice]

I agree with this monkey

[sturdy socket]

i've been beaten, boys

[misty briar]

Wym. Rm is just the maybe even the strongest weapon in game. Besides bsv. Rm literally can contest bsv at long range which shouldnt be since its a marksman rifle. Whenever i die its like 70% rm. its just easy to see that its meta and atleast can take a nerf at long range

[sturdy socket]

HERE IT COMES

[next sorrel]

thx

[elfin plank]

The ONLY thing i can say that would justify a "nerf" is make not as reliable at long range thats it

[misty briar]

Ye

[copper ice]

I uninstalled after totalfps told me they needed more time to balance APS

[elfin plank]

but with the amount of tears coming from the casuals you know dice will over nerf it

make it trash

[copper ice]

but you literally just said it only lost out on mag size and was superior at everything else

[elfin plank]

then its on the next gun casuals will destroy\

[next sorrel]

what games you play now?

[misty briar]

Rm is fine. Just long range viability is kinda sus

[copper ice]

mordhau lmao

[elfin plank]

Uh no

quote me

[next sorrel]

cool

[elfin plank]

exactly what i said

[sturdy socket]

my condolences, but it's a sight better than this

[elfin plank]

Rm68 will be a repeat of the k30

when dice is through with it

[copper ice]

tfw he deleted his previous statement

definitely trolling

[elfin plank]

i assure i did not. you just fail at reading

[misty briar]

I came here for a good fight but ashlee might just be more aggressive while still having a good sense without straight hating

[copper ice]

putting time into mordhau rewards you with instant newbie mad ability

putting time into 2042 rewards you with pain and agony

[misty briar]

Mordhau sucks ass

[elfin plank]

Been muting too many times. its best not get mad at the hivemind here

[edgy oriole]

chiv > mordhau

[sturdy socket]

i will admit the lute guys are funny, as well as playing archer + engineer

[misty briar]

Im new here but ik how discord can be, im pretty open / aggressive with my opinion myself 😂

[celest flower]

anyone down to do a boris tier 1 farm?

[copper ice]

archer and engineer is like maining tor you MONSTER

[elfin plank]

since discord is a challenge for you to operate. here

[sturdy socket]

ironically, i have the least fun with the melee in mordhau as it's all level 200+ sweats who hide their ranks with 1v1 badges

[elfin plank]

oh cant copy paste

[copper ice]

the tutorial in mordhau is very poo

[sturdy socket]

and said sweats unironically have like, hockey tables as their fucking mousepad

and play rap in the background of their recordings

[copper ice]

ive begged devs to update it many times but they just wont

[elfin plank]

"^
slow reload low ammo count low ammo pool
pretty balanced to me"

[royal swan]

Man I love that they don't label the blue line when looking for performance issues, oh the green lat is fine, and the red alat, but the unnamed blue line is all over the place, great help

[sturdy socket]

i stopped bothering with melee

[elfin plank]

Man do you complain like this about every game you play?

[misty briar]

Reminds me at bsv ammo count. Thing is unplayable without ammo as gadget

[sturdy socket]

do you get involved in conversations nobody wants you to be a part of all the time

[elfin plank]

Oh hes hurt now lol

[sturdy socket]

or are you just regularly a cunt

i'll take that as a yes

didn't ask + you run the aek

anyway

[copper ice]

so mag size, like i said

[elfin plank]

right!! but casuals just dont get it. they want all the "strong guns" to be pee shooters so they can continue to run around the map aimlessly unimpeded

[sturdy socket]

depends on the game you're looking for

always old emulator games

im currently running through metal gear solid peace walker with a friend

fun but long

[elfin plank]

reading sure is tough huh? here im sure we can help you out

[copper ice]

the people stomping are the ones using the good guns man

[misty briar]

I kinda share that opinion to a point, just less aggressive while telling them other ppl 😄 im sure ppl here would understand when ur more chill and less insulting to them

[royal swan]

Oh is the chat to toxic to ask help

Ok I'll wait

[elfin plank]

You have a point there, ill try next time but bf players arent the sharpest tools in the shed most of the time

[edgy oriole]

i only know red and yellow

[copper ice]

believe it or not some people like tools to be balanced so they can use stuff without feeling like they're crunking on people because their gun is whacko

[elfin plank]

So... hang on

by YOUR definition

the m416 is balanced?

the pp29 is balanced?

the k30 is balanced?

[sturdy socket]

strawman alert

[elfin plank]

the m60 is balanced?

[elfin plank]

We get it, youre a bit slow. now chill out

please

[misty briar]

Well the average playerbase got other issues than low or hight skilled players. Therefore the most opinions u see can seem very wrong in meaning of „ skill issue „ but in the end everyone wanna play the game to have fun so we should all just be more nice to each other

[sturdy socket]

i know you don't know what that word means, it's ok

[copper ice]

er, i dont see what my definition has to do with any of those

[elfin plank]

You know you could easily just mute/block me that way i dont have to retort to your tears

You dont understand at all... got it

i rest my case

[copper ice]

if you start saying nonsensical things most people will not understand yes

[elfin plank]

pp29 preforms better then most ars in the game

i guess thats balanced huh

m416 has more bloom then most lmgs too

[copper ice]

no? I would include it under the same banner of things I want nerfed

[elfin plank]

good ol balance peaking its head again

[misty briar]

Compared to other shooter bf 42 weapons list is overall more balanced

[sturdy socket]

"you don't understand..." > "you don't get it..." > insert strawman > 'you're just bad at the game' repeat

[elfin plank]

Just give up kid

please

[sturdy socket]

no i think i've got you figured out, trashlee

you're an actual robot

[copper ice]

its fine to rag on me if you're accurate but saying im saying literally the opposite of what im actually saying makes you look silly

[elfin plank]

kid made a ha ha funny

[sturdy socket]

no it's not funny, it's depressing

you repeat the same thing over and over like it has substance when it doesn't

[elfin plank]

How exactly am i saying the opposite of what youre saying

[copper ice]

i understand this perspective but i only agree with it because gunplay is so poor in 2042 that most of the guns feel the same

[misty briar]

Help for bf42 ? 👀

[limpid pond]

What are yall on about

[slender isle]

What’s everyone’s opinions on the rpt31?

[copper ice]

it feels like everyone is using the same gun with minor adjustments half the time

[misty briar]

Big funny block

[sturdy socket]

self acclaimed "pro player" trying to rag on other players for even daring to imply that the rm68 is overpowered and needs a nerf

[limpid pond]

What help did you need?

[copper ice]

you said i consider the pp29 balanced and i dont

[limpid pond]

Interesting

[sturdy socket]

right?

[elfin plank]

you said roughly that people like tools that feel balanced so they can use stuff without feeling like their guns are whacko right?

[limpid pond]

If they're a pro player than I certainly am lmao

[slender isle]

I got no clue what that means

[elfin plank]

so what is wrong with having most of the guns preform like they should?

[next onyx]

Just stop.

[misty briar]

Thats the character of the weapon

[next onyx]

Move on to something new.

[slender isle]

Rm68 does need a nerf, but mainly in the damage range

[slender isle]

Ah okay. Idk what it means though ahhaha

[humble helm]

If they're a pro I'm the CEO of good game design

[elfin plank]

Im not arguing with the chunky guy lemme continue nicely without a mute thanks

Can i?

[humble helm]

Anyways I forgot how hitting the head actually isn't very hard

[next onyx]

Can't let a convo go on if it results in petty jabs.

[elfin plank]

its mainly just the "big guy" kid throwing them

just because he disagrees with me

[slender isle]

Headshot hit box is huge it feels like

[royal swan]

Finally I can talk about my problem

[misty briar]

The points they talk about are valid tho. They just heated each other up

[sturdy socket]

stfu and move on, not interested in debating with a brick

[elfin plank]

see what i mean

[limpid pond]

I'm streaming

[slender isle]

Who’s bricked up?

Wait no I read it wrong

[next onyx]

Just talk about something else for and calm down.

[sturdy socket]

depends

[elfin plank]

see big guy calm down

[slender isle]

😳

[next onyx]

Leave it.

[misty briar]

Rather talk about tank shells not going thru fences

[sturdy socket]

yeah, petty jabs alright

lmao

anyway

think ill hop on 4

[elfin plank]

You mean how mpats explode on fences? and not go through

[slender isle]

Should talk about door and tree hit boxes being 900x the size of the obj and persisting after breaking@it

[elfin plank]

or how about the painfully slow shell velocity

[acoustic seal]

bring back the grapple hook attaching to smokes

[misty briar]

Not playing tank alot but the velocity seemed fine to me

Doable

[royal swan]

So I turned on some performance function and I noticed in the top left box three lines, one red, one green, and one blue, the red is the ALAT and the green is the LAT, the blue one isn't labeled, but when I get those lag spikes the blue line goes crazy and the others are completely stable

[elfin plank]

Maybe they should bring back sabot and a better hmg

[royal swan]

What is this fucking blue line

[elfin plank]

hmgs on the tank suck ass

[slender isle]

Bring back the length of the grapple. The inability to grapple up the side of discarded ship is real bad

[elfin plank]

grapple should 1 hit kill

[acoustic seal]

unnerfed mackay hook would be incredibly based

[acoustic seal]

it used to i think

[royal swan]

can someone tell me what the blue line means or are we all fucking clueless

[elfin plank]

Pro tip guys. if an idiot dozer is charging through your team beating all of your unaware teammates senseless

turn around and defib him

[misty briar]

More one hit killing stuff for funny meme montages on youtube

[elfin plank]

itll go through the shield

[slender isle]

Also, how glitchy the crosshair is for Mackay grapple. Like you’ll have the square grapple that doesn’t connect but it does connect. Or the diamond grapple that does connect usually but doesn’t

[acoustic seal]

falck darts will kill through the dozer shield too

[misty briar]

I always see ppl forget to shoot the legs of a dozer. Sad to see

[elfin plank]

there is too many montages of dozers mowing through 90 people in a hallway

[next onyx]

You can shield bash through another shield.

[elfin plank]

Thats stupid lol

[next onyx]

Proving how broken the hit box is.

[limpid pond]

Yo the aks is soooooo good

[next onyx]

But it makes sense considering the shield.

[limpid pond]

I'm mowing through people on stream.with it

[misty briar]

Ppl bad

[next onyx]

Cause I got killed by a turret point blank by one.

[elfin plank]

thank god it doesnt stop tank shells anymore

maybe they should make it so higher caliber armor piercing rounds go through

[slender isle]

Stranded being broken to the point grenades wil kill you through walls, containers, and bags cover

[elfin plank]

for small arms 1-5 bullets go through

[royal swan]

I'ma take that no one here knows that the network performance bar is

[elfin plank]

anything bigger goes through easily

[next onyx]

That's how a dozer takes damage to syringes, defibs and shields. Because there's a gap that doesn't block damage.

[misty briar]

24 is solid at best. Feels more underperforming compared to most assults

[next onyx]

I do.

If I remember correctly it shows you client side and server side hits.

[elfin plank]

ill never understand why boris players put turrets in the middle of no where

[limpid pond]

Talking about the smg lol

[royal swan]

Alright you know what the top left box means, and what the blue line stands for as it's detecting my lag spikes

[elfin plank]

like how many deaths do they need to understand that the turret wont play for you

[slender isle]

9

[misty briar]

Oh 😄

[elfin plank]

enders was right...

[next onyx]

Oh wait that box? I swear there's two different network graphs.

[royal swan]

There is the top bar and there are the 4 boxes to the right

[next onyx]

Because the one I am familiar with is the hit network graph.

[arctic grove]

😂

[slender isle]

Mind you, Boris turret at launch was like, invincible and did 300000 damage through smokes

[elfin plank]

in my opinion.. yes he was a bit stronger.. but still the idiots choice of specialists

"imma place my turret down and hide in this smoke"

[misty briar]

I played boris in beta : ☺️
I play boris now :🥲

[elfin plank]

"its gunna get me a bajillion kills"

now boris is like a rattle snake

[slender isle]

Crawford and Boris both need a damage buff to their turrets

[elfin plank]

you gotta check behind every rock and every corner because you know damn well theres a boris hiding in some dumb corner

laying on his belly

doing nothing

waiting 20mins to pounce on one player

[misty briar]

There is no use for anyone else than lis. Which is sad cuz no jav or stinger

[elfin plank]

engineers need some love not gunna lie

but not in the damage dept

[arctic grove]

Also the guy with the Minigun turret is bad

[misty briar]

Well ye

[elfin plank]

i think its the bloom on his turret

[slender isle]

Still somehow has a negative KD even though he hasn’t moved in 9 years

[arctic grove]

yeah exactly

[elfin plank]

it shouldnt be laser accurate but its still bad

[elfin plank]

LMAO

true

[arctic grove]

it would be fun if it was a laser

[elfin plank]

somehow died 20 times even though he has left one part of the map

[slender isle]

Going 4-12

And those 4 kills were AI

[misty briar]

Boris turret meeds one bit more damage ( only on vehicles) and crawford needs a bigger gap for his critical repair

[elfin plank]

3 were AI 1 was the one guy he pounced on from his corner

[slender isle]

Crawford needs to do more damage to lower health vehicles

[misty briar]

With his turret?

[elfin plank]

boris turret should NOT damage tanks... if the rorsch cant why should his radio shack turret do it???

[misty briar]

I never use the turret. If ever, just to build a wall

[slender isle]

Yes

[elfin plank]

his turret is 20mm right?

it should do minimal damage to tanks and shred all light vehicles

[slender isle]

This way you can shoot a rocket, do a ton of health, throw down the turret and finish off a vehicle

[next onyx]

Just make the turret exclusively target vehicles and then you can actually make it a threat.

[misty briar]

Plus damage

Its just utter useless. Males more sense to throw nades

[elfin plank]

i dont advocate for making tanks invincible but 20mm would do next to nothing to the front of mbts

it will however go through all light vehicles

[misty briar]

Turret same dmg as ap ammo on tanks

Ez

Or even half

[next onyx]

Improved range, tracking and health.

[misty briar]

Since fire rate

[elfin plank]

lol i just thought of this

[misty briar]

Turret of crawford

[elfin plank]

why is the open top latv4s so relatively tanky?

it has no glass protecting the driver etc

its thin

its light

its fast

[misty briar]

Its a small chucky boi

[elfin plank]

it should be shred to bits by lmgs hmg and etc

[misty briar]

Its improved glass and thin armor since its 42

New year new me

[elfin plank]

gives me old memories of the pre nerf bolte

[misty briar]

Whats bolte

[bitter skiff]

blood tractor

[elfin plank]

the baby jawa sand crawler

[misty briar]

Oh

I feel like a small dmg buff for for vcar tbh. The headshot damage with standard ammo on like 50m seems pretty weak for a (small) marksman. Or is it just me

[royal swan]

Still don't understand what this blue line means

They label the other lines as LAT and ALAT

But not this one and it pisses me off

[next sorrel]

why do people still play 2042

[royal swan]

Why do people play mw22

[next sorrel]

idk

[acoustic seal]

spite, farming console players

[bitter skiff]

why do people get on discord

[errant scarab]

Guys.... The new falk skin ☠️☠️☠️☠️

[regal perch]

don't fire it until it overheats

[bitter skiff]

skin?

[regal perch]

if you fire it in proper bursts, you can down it quicker

[royal swan]

Is that something positive? Coming from you.

[errant scarab]

Yes 🤮

[arctic grove]

Wdym spite?

[misty briar]

Very fun game

[arctic grove]

Genuinely curious

[next sorrel]

show

[regal perch]

its like a bad relationship

[misty briar]

New falk skin cool if there wouldnt be a skull mask

[regal perch]

you should probably move on but for some reason you find yourself going back

[errant scarab]

Cod skin

[errant scarab]

Dm

[arctic grove]

I wanna see too

I logged on to bee line the last weeks challenge and dip

[errant scarab]

Dm

What is thatttt ☠️

"legendary" falk skin

[copper fulcrum]

Reminds me of the Phantom Program from BF4

[misty briar]

Only edgy fortnite kiddies will buy these. But lucky enough for dice there are enough

[errant scarab]

When hello kitty skin

[arctic grove]

never

[errant scarab]

Bud light skin

[next sorrel]

yeah the new falck skin is uh

the mask looks like the trollface skull with fly eyes

[next onyx]

It's nice seeing something really good for Falck.

[covert chasm]

Anyone tryna play 2042

[arctic grove]

For future references please use #lfg-crossplay

[covert chasm]

Litt

[hasty hound]

Breakthrough gets on my nerves

[misty briar]

Nice meme

[next onyx]

Not meming though.

[misty briar]

Even better of a meme then

🔥

[viscid sinew]

yo can someone help me i have a Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-9700F CPU and 2042 is constantly taking up 90% cpu usuage even at lowest settings and causes major input delay

[bitter skiff]

force DX 12 in the config maybe

That did it for me today after a lot of screwing around

[royal swan]

man I wonder what the devs fucked up that made the game unplayable

[next sorrel]

wtf? could not activate message that looks like origin in 2011

[royal swan]

This lag is atrocious and I damn well know it ain't from my pc

[elfin plank]

Find the user.cfg file everyone is using

thatll fix it

[viscid sinew]

can you send me a link or something

[elfin plank]

yeah hold on do you know how to insert it?

[viscid sinew]

idk

what do i do

[bitter skiff]

https://www.reddit.com/r/battlefield2042/comments/r0hk23/psa_enable_directx_12_if_you_havent_it_fixes_a/

[elfin plank]

oops

[viscid sinew]

thank you

hopefully it works

[elfin plank]

Wait did that link work?

wait you also cant just inject it

modify it to correct number of cores and threads to your cpu

or rather how much you want bf 2042 want to use your cpu

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1094508788465270855/1099564776331411476/user.cfg

[karmic egret]

Bri'ish snek

[bitter skiff]

oh lawd

[sullen violet]

[next sorrel]

i redownloaded bf1 to try out its rush because i never did but its completely dead so

lol

ill try tomorrow morning

[karmic egret]

Google gave me a "Remember this day" and it's a photo of me punching a cone

[sullen violet]

Nobody playing it anymore in NA?

[bitter skiff]

Ice cream?

[next sorrel]

apparently not

not right now at least

[karmic egret]

Australian slang for ripping a bong

[sullen violet]

Well, isn't it like midnight there now?

[bitter skiff]

Oh dang, right.

[next sorrel]

yes but i expected at least one half full server ngl

i guess people just didnt like rush that much

[bitter skiff]

nobody plays rush in legacy BF's for some reason

[karmic egret]

Mate it's 12:00am oce servers are usually dead by then

[acoustic seal]

bf1 small modes will have maybe one server on NA and it's usually in rotation with frontlines, shock ops, tdm

[sullen violet]

Fair enough. I guess conquest would be the most popular anyways. Maybe daytime tomorrow more people would play it 🤷

[next sorrel]

yeah, im hoping. ngl any rush servers are probably european

[royal swan]

Where do you inject that exactly

[next sorrel]

these days

[acoustic seal]

there's a single full mixed mode server up rn and it's on domination

[sullen violet]

I mean, you could maybe play EU servers as an alternative. You would probably have about 100 ping though

In some cases that isn't too bad imo

[next sorrel]

yep, i normally do that on bc2 and battlefield 3

so im used to 100-130 ping

[royal swan]

Yikes

[next sorrel]

hell, i play on this russian bf3 server and get 170 ping lol

[sullen violet]

Fair enough

Damn 170

Personally i wouldn't go much over 100, ideally 50 or less tbh

[next sorrel]

it is surprisingly not that bad. i feel like in battlefield 3 it plays surprisingly alright even with super high ping, same with bc2. maybe im coping, lol. main issue is getting kicked for ping. theres one russian tdm server i like but i cant really play it because it kicks at 150 ping

[royal swan]

Can't play hourglass

Keep forgetting how fucking terrible that map is

I rather fucking play exposure on attacking than play any round of hourglass

[sullen violet]

Yeah i understand. The high ping can somewhat ruin gameplay for others too so i get why they would do it kind of. I mean, it is easy to get used too over time i'd say

[royal swan]

It seems the problem with my game is latency DESPITE HAVING 25 PING

WTF IS WRONG WITH THE PERFORMANCE

[sullen violet]

But the high ping i think would be less problem in bf anyways so no point kicking 🤷

[next sorrel]

yeah, i do feel a bit bad for killing people with high ping lol. but hey, gotta do what you gotta do to keep playing your favorite games 12-13 years later

[sullen violet]

I get that, but i do believe in bf it might not cause to much problems for others

[safe bramble]

i am so sorry for your loss jfc

[next sorrel]

thats good

[sullen violet]

Whats happening?

[royal swan]

Stuttering

[sullen violet]

I can't say anything for sure though

[royal swan]

I get pauses that last half a second, a second, or 5 seconds

[sullen violet]

Maybe driver issue etc...?

[royal swan]

Never happened before

This is new

Brand new issues

[sullen violet]

Did you change to slower disk?

[royal swan]

Nope

Used the same drive since launch

[sullen violet]

Anything else using high cpu while playing?

[royal swan]

No just your general applications

[sullen violet]

Could be something else using lots of cpu while playing

[royal swan]

Outlook, word, steam

[sullen violet]

That or slow drive

[sullen violet]

Steam auto updating?

Check next time

[carmine rover]

whatsup gamers

[royal swan]

The drive is a hard drive but it never had any issues like this before

[sullen violet]

If you have faster drive, try moving it too that

[remote kiln]

tldr
latency =/= ping, latency is a measurement of your round trip connection to the server, ping is your response to the server

[royal swan]

Not enough space for my ssd

[remote kiln]

aka you are having packet loss

[sullen violet]

Its not internet related from what he saying

[remote kiln]

yes and no, it's a node issue, not an issue directly with his network

[sullen violet]

Can you comfirm steam or something else is not using resources for example update

[next sorrel]

scraps are only good for battlepacks, right?

[royal swan]

What was the button to check CPU usage

[sullen violet]

Task manager

[royal swan]

There's a shortcut to get it open

[sullen violet]

Right click bottom line

[remote kiln]

windows key + X, task manager is in that menu

[royal swan]

Nothing seems out of the ordinary, the only application that is using a lot of CPU is battlefield 2042

At 20%-40%

[remote kiln]

cc I highly advise you run a tracert

[royal swan]

Where's that

[bitter skiff]

you should try to modify your config to force dx12

[remote kiln]

traceroute is a utility where you can check the response packets to the server destination

it will verify all the responding nodes are responding as they should, from the sounds of it it's failing on return from the server

[royal swan]

Ok but where should I access it

[remote kiln]

this does nothing, you can't disable dx12 lol

cmd

tracert (IP address of EA server), let it run

[bitter skiff]

It solved all of my stuttering problems

[remote kiln]

placebo my guy

the config is left over from battlefield 5

[royal swan]

No clue where cmd, never had to fix anything like those before

[remote kiln]

it does nothing changing that setting

[bitter skiff]

Good luck dummy

[remote kiln]

win key + r - cmd.exe

[royal swan]

It's a black box right

[remote kiln]

yes that's the terminal

go find the IP address then run the command

[next onyx]

I'd just disable that psuedo eye adjustment BS.

[sullen violet]

It could be slow drive or old drivers

[next onyx]

You know how you're inside a building everything outside of it brightens.

[royal swan]

It's on a hard drive

[remote kiln]

uhh

[next onyx]

OH that's right there's a driver update that's relevant to 2042.

[remote kiln]

well

that changes things

klikard is right, put it to an SSD

the latency is because the drive can't keep up tldr

[royal swan]

Fuck gotta buy a SSD, the SSD I have doesn't have enough space

[next sorrel]

i really despise how bf4 assignments are organized compared to bf3 on the battlelog

[royal swan]

Then I have to put it in my pre built pc

[remote kiln]

Nvidia driver update fixes a crash tldr

[sullen violet]

It might be as simple as steam eating all your resources by updating if you are playing. If you have the game on steam that is unlikley though

[royal swan]

I did notice the bf2042 is using a lot of memory

[remote kiln]

hard drives use the SATA interface

[sullen violet]

Not suprising 😛

[remote kiln]

long cut of it is they suck for writing continuous data

and you need it for games (like) 2042

[royal swan]

Now all I need to do is find a 1TB SSD drive, and somehow put it in my pre built r11 alienware PC

[sullen violet]

I dont see how the game would need to write data though

[remote kiln]

continuous asset streaming

they are constantly being written in and out of the GPU VRAM from the I/O

and SATA is atrocious for asynchronous executions

[bitter skiff]

yeah, how much data does 2042 really need to write?

[remote kiln]

as soon as it writes, it will buffer before it reads

which is why there is "lag"

[bitter skiff]

which one of us knows what they are talking about ..... neither possibly?

[remote kiln]

me, I do

because it's how DX12 works

you dont

[royal swan]

Would putting it in a SSD drive also fix map Loading issues

[remote kiln]

yes

[royal swan]

So majority of my problems is because I have it in a hard drive

[remote kiln]

more or less

shouldn't be using it for games like 2042

[royal swan]

Now how would I add a new SSD drive

[sullen violet]

How much ram do you have?

[remote kiln]

get a SATA SSD

they're pretty cheap, even for 1tb

[bitter skiff]

Ever heard of the Dunning-Kruger effect?

[royal swan]

Idk, I never looked into the r11 specs

[remote kiln]

yes that's you, because I'm a software engineer

flip whatever you're asking

[bitter skiff]

youve proven my point handsomely with that reply.

[remote kiln]

there's no point or argument here

all this information is freely available

[royal swan]

Hope that's good with the r11 alienware pc

[remote kiln]

dunno only one way to find out

prebuild lottery for you

[sullen violet]

I'd say it's better to look at all possibilities than just being sure it's one of the most likely causes for things

Sometimes it can be several things causing something 🤷

[remote kiln]

very well could be

but hard drives are not satisfactory for games like 2042

never have been and never will be, so you solve the LCD

[royal swan]

The installed ram says 16.0GB with 15.8GB usable

[sullen violet]

Well, ideally you should use ssd i guess. Might aswell solve all his problems with the game 🤷

[next onyx]

Yeah that's normal observer.

[sullen violet]

16gb should be good enough i'd say

[fervent rose]

100%, it's a next gen console game so its ssd developed

which is a good thing

[royal swan]

Now to find a way to install a ssd

[remote kiln]

16GB is fine for anything not >1080p

[fervent rose]

16gb is fine for anything not tarkov

that game is goofy

[remote kiln]

memory usage is around 9-10GB at 1440, then etc

[sullen violet]

Download some 🤡

[next sorrel]

your laughing now, but someday downloading storage will be possible.... someday...

[sullen violet]

Interesting, i like that thought

[remote kiln]

look for this on the inside, the SSD will have 2 connectors, one for the power supply and for this SATA plug, you just plug both into each and connect the SATA drive to the motherboard

[royal swan]

I'm taking that as not good ram

[next sorrel]

idk man 16 gb sounds pretty good to me, an 8gb pleb

[remote kiln]

then when you boot again just initialise the drive, and you're done

[royal swan]

Well I gotta open the PC first which I never done, because it's prebuilt

[sullen violet]

Imagine IDE in 2023

[royal swan]

Because it's Alienware it's not your generic PC case

I'll focus on this tomorrow

Now I gotta find a suitable SSD drive

[sullen violet]

Cant you free up some space on the SSD?

Imagine if it does nothing though

[royal swan]

The SSD drive ain't made for large storage

It's not 1tb

[sullen violet]

I know its 512gb

[static prairie]

Is it better to have bf on ssd

[royal swan]

It for apps, folders, and your basic shit

[sullen violet]

But can't you just temporary move stuff to the drive so you can test the game on it?

[royal swan]

Yes

[static prairie]

Gotta check if i can fit it

I've heard ssd only helps to launch games quicker

[royal swan]

Most of the stuff won't function in a hard drive ,it's on a SSD drive for a reason

[sullen violet]

I am confused

[royal swan]

I tried before

[fervent rose]

no i mean tarkov is poorly made so 16gb ram doesnt get good frames

for normal games, its fine

[sullen violet]

You cant really just copy programs etc.. i am taking about files like documents, pictures and music files etc...

[royal swan]

Your general apps, the shit that is built in won't work on a hard drive

Idk why

I tried

[sullen violet]

You cant just move them

The registry wont know files moved for the program

[royal swan]

The built in is on the SSD drive, the download shit is on the hard drive

[sullen violet]

Well, it depends if it needs that or not. But many programs can run fine if you just copy folder elsewhere

[sullen violet]

🤷

[royal swan]

I might as well just get another SSD drive

[remote kiln]

[sullen violet]

[remote kiln]

definitely not

[royal swan]

There like 60-50 bucks

[fervent rose]

ssd makes everything faster

[remote kiln]

I wish DICE would get out their backside and just lock out hard drives from booting the game already

stupid that it's went on this long

[fervent rose]

ssd is a lovely technology

i wouldnt want to go back to spinning drives

[sullen violet]

I have 1 ssd and 1 hdd

[fervent rose]

also i just got my highest damage in a round with rm68 after weeks without gaming, that gun is balanced

i was worried about being rusty

[sullen violet]

I mean up to you, but if you could test it first if it makes any diffrence then you wouldn't have to spend it anyways. But i guess ideally you should have ssd 🤷

[static prairie]

Would ssd increase framerate aswell

My game is bit laggy time to time

[fervent rose]

on games like 2042, probably. but i dont know anybody that has tested that in a video

[sullen violet]

[static prairie]

Ight

[fervent rose]

i think ssd wont increase frames for older games

[sullen violet]

No point us buying gpus then 😛

[remote kiln]

no it's not going to increase your framerate

it will drastically improve your response time in the game

[fervent rose]

but for anything that is built on ssd technology for loading assets, maybe

[royal swan]

Frame rate really depends on the GPU right

[remote kiln]

memory, CPU and GPU

[fervent rose]

depends on cpu, ram, gpu

[remote kiln]

it's not one of

[fervent rose]

for battlefield the cpu is massive

[sullen violet]

Combination of cpu,ram and gpu i'd say

[royal swan]

Surprised it only takes up 20-40% of the cpu

[fervent rose]

if you have a 5-6 year old cpu, getting a recent one is a huge upgrade

[sturdy socket]

i got my m.2 in the mail today, was wondering if changing from external to internal SSD would help performance at all

or if this shit is doomed to run like a potato

[royal swan]

Heard cases where it takes up 80-90%

[remote kiln]

if you are moving over to an m.2 it's advised you format the system

the partition scheme is not the same

[sturdy socket]

never done that

[royal swan]

My CPU is a 10th gen intel

I think I'm fine

[sturdy socket]

i mainly want to use it to store games so they launch faster and potentially move my OS over since it's a good a time as any

[remote kiln]

m.2. uses what's called 16 to 32 bit data storage and it's fundamentally different to SATA drives, if you want to avoid problems wipe the drive

[sturdy socket]

could I just make a system image and use it on the m2

[remote kiln]

or the OS, at a minimum

[sturdy socket]

that's a bit problematic, i don't want to lose any of my data

[remote kiln]

yes just be wary to remove your current drive before you flash a image

or you'll have an unbootable system

2 windows installations are not compatible with each other

[royal swan]

What generation of CPUs are y'all using

[sturdy socket]

i think I use the external one for games storage and stuff, but my OS is located on my internal hdd

[remote kiln]

I've got a 5800x3d

[remote kiln]

yeahh take it off to the m.2

[sturdy socket]

i don't imagine it's as simple as using Rufus is it

[remote kiln]

yes it's that simple

[sullen violet]

9th i9

[sturdy socket]

my main concern is having to reinstall all my programs

[remote kiln]

just remember to wipe the OS installation on your HDD after

well yeah you'll need to reinstall the programs

[sturdy socket]

fuck

[remote kiln]

make a list if it helps

[royal swan]

10700k is the 10th gen Intel cpu right

[remote kiln]

yes

[sturdy socket]

i think I'll hold off on using the m.2 then

that's way too big of a hassle

[royal swan]

So basically identical to your 5800x3d in comparison

[remote kiln]

no

[sullen violet]

Btw i think we should move this too #technology , i just realised 😅

[remote kiln]

mines is much faster than yours in short

[royal swan]

True

[naive quiver]

is 5800x3d faster than 12900k

[remote kiln]

yes

[royal swan]

Maybe the internet comparisons are wrong but it's by a small margin

[remote kiln]

no it's a extreme margin

around 30-40%

[naive quiver]

And it’s cheaper than Intel

[sturdy socket]

will games still run faster if I use the m2 as a normal storage drive

[remote kiln]

no

you will encounter hitching because it's on the hard drive

[sturdy socket]

hitching?

[remote kiln]

stuttering/freezing etc

[royal swan]

Intel core I7 10700k is how much expensive

They are both over 300 and below 400

[sturdy socket]

so in order to have better performance, the m2 has to host the OS or

[remote kiln]

yes

[sturdy socket]

what a headache

[remote kiln]

better late than never

[sturdy socket]

i guess, but is there a way to carry over my windows settings

[remote kiln]

it will do it automatically

windows settings for 11 are synced to your Microsoft account, they reapply on login

[sturdy socket]

i would seriously rather not deal with the bullshit of having to go one by one and changing all the registry keys for random fixes

11?

i don't know if I want to go to windows 11, I'd much rather stick to 10

[remote kiln]

er I mean, you can if you want

[safe bramble]

me when 9th gen intel cpu

[remote kiln]

but not advisable as windows 10 won't be getting anymore feature updates

support ended in October 2022

[sturdy socket]

i love basically not having a choice

[next sorrel]

who cares, security updates last until 2025

[remote kiln]

you care if you want to have games booting

[naive quiver]

I think it depends on what game , I see on YouTube some of the games 12900k is better than 5800x3d

[remote kiln]

feature updates are critical for SDKs

[royal swan]

The i9 Intel is the new CPUs right

[sturdy socket]

i just hope upgrading to windows 11 doesn't screw with older games/emulators

[sullen violet]

Not trying to ruin the conversation or anything but ideally to keep to the topic. It's partially kind of my fault it's off topic 😅

[naive quiver]

I9 is the highest

[remote kiln]

^^

revives the dead channel I post paragraphs in anyways

[sturdy socket]

probably it for me anyway

[sullen violet]

[sturdy socket]

quite the hassle, but I might do it soon

[royal swan]

Damn a mod made a mistake, demoted

[sullen violet]

[next sorrel]

realistically our games are not going to stop booting on windows 10 anytime soon

[remote kiln]

(final reply due to klikards message, but feature updates contain SDK updates for VCRedist libraries, and if you aren't at the minimum then games don't function, take the risk if you want)

[royal swan]

I love windows, nothing will ever make me switch to that penguin garbage

Anyways

I'm tired, and have nothing to say for 2042

[remote kiln]

something season 5 is coming out

[next sorrel]

2042 is mid anyways

[lilac dust]

I love that discarded breakthrough starts out in a sector that isn't even used as a sector in conquest. Not sure if this is a thing on any other breakthrough map but I dig it and I wanna see more of this cos it makes for a more refreshing experience across both modes to keep them feeling more unique

[next sorrel]

bad company 2 does that way more... 13 years ago

[royal swan]

Speaking of mid, overall steam reviews is ever so close to being mixed

[fervent rose]

@lilac dust im still waiting for the orbital breakthrough rework that uses the new tunnel

[remote kiln]

it's only a guess but with discarded they probably had the time to do fundamental differences like that

[fervent rose]

i do want some things in both modes

[remote kiln]

we'll likely see it with hourglass

[fervent rose]

orbital bt is so poop

[lilac dust]

YES

[naive quiver]

How much is the battlefield BP , I got 2500 is enough for next one ?

[remote kiln]

logistically different sector configurations makes the most sense for larger maps

[lilac dust]

The fact that the new orbital tunnel / hill base isn't used on ANY mode besides conquest is just silly lol

[remote kiln]

1000

[next sorrel]

uh oh

[royal swan]

Needs to be 40% to turn mixed and it's at 38%

[remote kiln]

when squad management comes in I guess there'll be a more receptive response to the game

is the last big piece

[fervent rose]

thats like a 1% change at best

[royal swan]

Oh and for recent reviews it's at 63% which is 7% away from being mostly positive

[remote kiln]

smallest changes have the biggest impact

[fervent rose]

will i be able to finally leave sniper team 7 squads? yes

thats about it

[remote kiln]

you already can

[fervent rose]

you can't always

[manic sparrow]

Hey friends, quick question: I don't think I'll have enough BFC to buy the new Falck bundle even if I get everything on the battle pass, will it be available even when next season drops? I really don't want to spend money on it if I don't have to.

[fervent rose]

and it only switches between 2 squads (sometimes)

[remote kiln]

but there's bigger logistical implementations based on leaks anyways they will do

[fervent rose]

sometimes they are both sniper squads lul

[next sorrel]

that sucks

[lilac dust]

As far as I know bundles that get added each week stick around for the forseeable future. I believe it's just limited time event skins that go away

[royal swan]

What, don't like that the game is getting decent reception.

[remote kiln]

tldr nobody knows, I wouldn't guess they remove the bundles though

haven't heard a bundle being removed

[next sorrel]

considering the game is still leagues behind other battlefield games in terms of content, balance, etc, yes

[remote kiln]

err

I mean not really

balance wise it's already ahead of 3

[next sorrel]

idk people talk tons of shit about transport helis and rm68

[manic sparrow]

Cool cool, thank you!!

[remote kiln]

lol that's a far cry from battlefield 3

[fervent rose]

what? no way

and the maps are so much worse

[next sorrel]

what did battlefield 3 do wrong

[remote kiln]

say the magic word for what's in 3, that's all you need to say

[royal swan]

Better balance than bf1

[remote kiln]

begins with an m

ends in the number 3

[arctic grove]

Artillery truck and the muromets were annoying vehicles but general gameplay balance was actually fine

[royal swan]

Smg80

[next sorrel]

m16a3 is not flying tank at least

[arctic grove]

SMG 08 is not OP

[manic sparrow]

Yeah I noticed that, I just hopped on to get the bundle and realized I won't have enough even if I finish the battle pass without paying even more money 😭

[arctic grove]

High recoil and spread

Not effective past like 20 meters

[remote kiln]

yeah the M16 was the spectre of anything that exists, as death

[royal swan]

Idk, there is a good fucking reason multiple servers specifically ban that gun

[remote kiln]

as soon as you don't have that balance is automatically better

[remote kiln]

gl

[arctic grove]

well in older games entire classes typically got banned, but not necessarily because they were OP (typically they’re just annoying)

[next sorrel]

m16a3 is op but still beatable and still number 2 or 3 in most categories at least

but yes it needed more nerfs

[remote kiln]

you are not beating the m16

[fervent rose]

bf3 didnt have anything as dumb as irish aps + tank

[next sorrel]

yes you are

[remote kiln]

unless you're sitting 150m anyways

[fervent rose]

and bf3 had lots of silly stuff in it like suppression

[remote kiln]

anything short medium or long range you will lose

[next sorrel]

no...

[remote kiln]

what weapon outclassed the M16?

[royal swan]

It's a large mag smg with high rof, it shreds players

It's definitely op

[arctic grove]

High recoil and spread, so it was situational as opposed to automatico and mp18

But regardless, 2042 is definitely more unbalanced

[next sorrel]

g3/scar-h at range and damage, aek at firerate,

[remote kiln]

those are specific situations

they still lose in every other metric to the m16

[royal swan]

Oh how can I forget the arty truck and mortar tank

[manic sparrow]

I'd have enough to just get the skin, but I also really want the player card, can the ones in bundles be bought individually?

[next sorrel]

yes but saying "if your not using m16, you will die" isnt true lol

[royal swan]

And let's not forget about the large bomber with the carpet bombs

[arctic grove]

SFAR, RM68, tor, transports, Sundance wing suit cheese, rail gun

[remote kiln]

even if you're being absolutely conservative with the SCAR-H, if the gunfight was under 50m you were losing the gunfight

and the vast majority are

[arctic grove]

AR headshot modifier

[next sorrel]

you are heavily exaggerating

[royal swan]

Oh and horse for some reason

[remote kiln]

I don't have an answer sorry, it could be individually purchaseable in season 5 or it might not be

[arctic grove]

Console horses are far from unbalanced lol

[fervent rose]

yea the TOR is also maybe the worst balance decision dice has ever made

[remote kiln]

it's not me, it's DICE that said that

[lilac dust]

I forgot to say it's also cool that one of the final sectors in discarded breakthrough is yet again another sector that isn't present in conquest. It's pretty dope that breakthrough is that different because conquest has plenty of sectors to fight in that I don't feel like I need those extra ones. Overall Discarded is a major W for both modes

[royal swan]

Oh the 08/18 lmg

[remote kiln]

why is it surprising that the majority of gunfights are close range?

[royal swan]

That shit shreds

[next sorrel]

idfc what dice says lol, they made the transport heli in 2042

[remote kiln]

??

they're the ones with the data dude

not me or you

[next sorrel]

they made 2042 in general

[safe bramble]

based opinion tbh

don't forget the tor

[remote kiln]

you can't just go oh yeah it doesn't matter cause you don't like them

[fervent rose]

the tor maul has to be the worst thing dice has conceptually created ever

[safe bramble]

^

[next sorrel]

what data even is this? scar-h players died more?

[remote kiln]

hardline

[fervent rose]

thats visceral

not a dice game

also why nobody bought it

[remote kiln]

they collect stats about everything my guy, just engagements from distance

[next sorrel]

i know they collect stats lol, i asked what data your referring to

[remote kiln]

they don't publish the data obviously

it's internal to themselves

[remote kiln]

yes but no

DICE did have a big contribution factor to its creation

[royal swan]

The ucav would like to have a word

[remote kiln]

and people saying it's just visceral are lying to themselves

[fervent rose]

???

[next sorrel]

ok then why are you using non-public dice data to say that the m16 can never be beaten

[remote kiln]

because I'm just relaying what DICE have said lol

[fervent rose]

the dead space guys told EA they wanted to make a battlefield game, and they let them

[next sorrel]

im a pretty average 1 kd player and i can get kills with g3, scar, aug, aek.

[remote kiln]

good for you

it doesn't change anything

[fervent rose]

did dice contribute, probably

but it's a Visceral game

[remote kiln]

yeah but dead space isn't a battlefield game

[fervent rose]

not a DICE game

[remote kiln]

hardline is

[fervent rose]

no shit? but whos name was on the box

it wasnt dice sweden

[remote kiln]

u sure?

[next sorrel]

ok sure, but how does one gun for one class that gets shit on by tanks on any mode other than tdm or certain rush maps mean bf3 is so much more imbalanced than 2042? besides that one gun, bf3 gunplay is pretty balanced

[fervent rose]

support credit

[lilac dust]

So guys what is the most OP vault weapon? I'm looking to tier 1 another vault weapon. The only one I have tier 1'd so far is the M39 EMR because it had a busted headshot glitch during the breakaway rework launch

[fervent rose]

deco this is a stupid argument

[royal swan]

Aek

[fervent rose]

hardline is a Visceral game

[royal swan]

M16

[arctic grove]

I wouldn’t say OP but the M16 is good

[lilac dust]

Assuming you're not meaning M416 but the other one ye?

[arctic grove]

Yea just the BF3 M16 itself

[remote kiln]

lol let's not pretend like BF3 gunplay is balanced, the spas 12 was the most dominant shotgun in history with slug rounds one shotting people from 40m away and that's before you talk about the other shotguns or ARs

[lilac dust]

Noted

[remote kiln]

it was one of the most imbalanced gunplay wise in the franchise

[royal swan]

I'ma with you, wikipedia said so

[remote kiln]

and will be unless they do retcon patches

[lilac dust]

Wait so you said AEK first. Is AEK slightly more OP than M16A3 ?

[solemn bone]

fr

[fervent rose]

all you have to do is look at who's name comes first on the box. that's it

[next sorrel]

ive seen someone use spas 12 slugs twice and one of them was me lol, 870 is used more and again almost only on TDM or sometimes that one hallway in bazaar. maybe im just lucky, but who is genuinely sniping with slugs on any map that isnt heavily cqc

[fervent rose]

that's who made any game

not some wild concept

[royal swan]

It doesn't matter when wikipedia already decided

[lilac dust]

Alright lemme rephrase this - To everyone in this chat - What is more OP - AEK or M16A3 ?

[fervent rose]

also its the game that killed visceral

[remote kiln]

any map in the close quarters DLC and any which have range, the 870 is used more naturally in TDM because it wins in extreme CQB, but it's not optimal for general use

[next sorrel]

slugs in general are not optimal for general use

[elfin plank]

neither lol

[lilac dust]

https://tenor.com/view/interesting-batman-very-interesting-thinking-gif-16421084

[remote kiln]

they are for shotguns lol

the spas deals base 70 damage with slug rounds up to 20m what are you talking about

[next sorrel]

again, never seen anyone use slugs except on cqb maps

[remote kiln]

then you've not played a lot then

[lilac dust]

I just noticed some people in here were saying the M16A3 still needs a nerf

[remote kiln]

it was very popular

[next sorrel]

400 hours should be enough to see this phenomena

[remote kiln]

not really

that's what, colonel 30 if you're lucky

[next sorrel]

col 40

[remote kiln]

close enough

same point

[elfin plank]

You still here?

[elfin plank]

in 2042?

LOL

[royal swan]

Yes

[elfin plank]

yeah hold on