battlefield-2042

[copper ice]

is this really the reason they gave? lmfao

[sour meadow]

it was along those lines

i don't remember exactly

[fresh lintel]

I like the plus system because I lowkey hate having to switch loadouts after death. Or needing to find something to switch an attachment.

[copper ice]

[fresh lintel]

It has its issues but its a convenience

[copper ice]

its only really useful for swapping optics

[fresh lintel]

I use it fully honestly

[copper ice]

it breaks underbarrel nade launchers and gives you infinite ammo with mag swapping currently

[naive magnet]

It would be nicer if you could switch loadouts for classes when you die without having to alter your loadout

Have multiple loadouts

[copper ice]

more detrimental than positive

[arctic grove]

Plus system just needs to exclude the masterkey, UBGLs, and other similar things if it even comes back in the next game

[naive magnet]

Yeah the underbarrel has screwed me countless times

[arctic grove]

And yea unfortunately probably ammo as well

[copper ice]

i would also like multiple loadouts and not one per fucking class

[fresh lintel]

In a CQC situation where a silencer is good? Switched. Low HP Vehicle trying to be cheeky? Armor piercing in a few seconrs.

[copper ice]

AP bullets have complete dogshit values

[naive magnet]

AP Rounds 🤮

[arctic grove]

You can literally do standard, standard extended, then high power. Massive normal ammo pool plus High Power which makes almost no difference and gives you more ammo lel

[fresh lintel]

I only use it to finish off pesky attacks or stealths that think they can run

[copper ice]

alas, theres no basic anti tank grenade so they're the best alternative (and not even on every fucking gun)

[naive magnet]

I’d rather yolo an underbarrel 400m than try to get anything with AP rounds haha

[copper ice]

40mm HE underbarrel is better than AP rounds yeah

[fresh lintel]

Yeah its basically bad and useless however it beats using the Rorsch or NTW to kill vehicles

[arctic grove]

Pretty sure using assault plus ARs and the above mentioned ammo loadout gives you like 300 rounds as a solo player

[naive magnet]

40mm AP Underbarrel was nice on Scar, don’t have that option on RM68 though

[copper ice]

best way to kill vehicles is just using ubgl

[arctic grove]

So I’d just keep it for barrels, grips, and sights going forward

[copper ice]

40mm HE still hurts vehicles too

[naive magnet]

7% tops to a tank, it’s low damage

[copper ice]

its fine for swapping mag type if they all shared ammo

[fresh lintel]

I only use two bottoms, which is LWG and Blue/Green lasers. And maybe a underbarrel GL.

[naive magnet]

The AP underbarrel does closer to 15%

[copper ice]

everything is low damage to vehicles

this is 2042

7% is still nutty for an HE impact nade

[arctic grove]

I’d use UBGLs more if I didn’t have to hold down D pad to use them, far from where my thumbs normally are on my controller and there’s a glitch that makes your gun semi auto after using them so… they’re generally annoying

[copper ice]

Thats 21% with the 3 of them you get

[ebon pilot]

I have a clip somewhat recent of mag dumping into a brawler with the rorsch and killing it

[naive magnet]

Do this and accidentally switch to semi auto

[fresh lintel]

Ammo type is dependant on the situation (I usually use the default ammo type or High powered) and same with barrel attachments

[naive magnet]

It’s the worst

[copper ice]

you get more fucking damage from 40mm ap and 40mm he than from the dedicated anti vehicle launchers

[naive magnet]

You can’t toggle off semi auto without killing your ability to switch underbarrel

[arctic grove]

Yea, idk where else to put grenade launcher so I have to put up with it

[naive magnet]

In terms of DPS the underbarrel AP is best

[arctic grove]

[fresh lintel]

All in all I prefer this system over "Oh I need a silencer." And then that engagement dies out so you're stuck with a silencer in a situation where a silencer is less favorable.

Or a optic.

[naive magnet]

Why doesn’t dozers shield have a silencer

[copper ice]

having a silencer is barely ever not a good thing in bf with the values they have

its a decent concept executed very poorly in 2042

[naive magnet]

I generally agree; the RM68 and AC9 are my exceptions

[copper ice]

rm68 gets short barrel silencer

best of both worlds

the attachments in 2042 in general have minimal impact outside of like, 5 of them

[naive magnet]

Got it tier 1 the other day; haven’t switched to a new weapon

Just trying to run dozer more haha

Really wish they’d fix his revive glitch

It’s the worst

[copper ice]

short barrel is really good, wrapped suppressor is really good (6ku on a handful of guns that dont suffer from losing damage), laser sight is really good, all the ubgls are good, everything else sucks

optics as you favour

[naive magnet]

What does 6ku mean

[arctic grove]

I just use the thing for horizontal recoil control and then the accuracy when moving grip

I usually strafe in all my gunfights so I might as well use it

[copper ice]

mag is generally whatever has the most bullets outside of a few exceptions because none of the ammo types have consistent values between guns and are just arbitrarily defined every time

6ku suppressor is the one that drops your damage instead of velocity

[naive magnet]

Oh I see

[copper ice]

there's some guns where it doesnt drop damage enough to lose a btk

so its better to use on them than wrapped

not that the game tells you this

because it tells you almost nothing about the actual stats of the weapon you're using

the accuracy of everything in the game is already super high

the attachments generally have low values that don't change much practically

thats why the best ones all add something defined

short barrel extra rof

suppressor

ubgl

laser sight does actually give a large hipfire boost and has no downside

i guess bipod exists too

glitchy little thing though

just weird to make a game all about being able to change attachments and then having most of them either suck or barely make a difference

for what purpose

[arctic grove]

[copper ice]

2042 feels so at odds with itself

on the bright side they're improving irish with the next patch!

[naive magnet]

I never considered the extra dps of rapid fire

That’s a good point

I just wonder if it’ll come at the cost of those stupid 200m yolo kills I get

Most of those are tap-semi kills though so maybe not

[copper ice]

it hits your velocity a bit but thats it

[naive magnet]

Laser sight does have the minor downside of being visually identifiable in certain scenarios

[copper ice]

True

But you can just turn it off

It even has an easy fix for those super niche scenarios

The extra dps from short barrel is what really makes rm68 so good

[naive magnet]

I’ll try the laser sight on my ac9

[fresh lintel]

Why is it always the stealth chopper players that make it a personal vendetta to hunt you down because you survived their brainrot assault or killed them?

[copper ice]

Laser sight is solid on smgs

Their already good hipfire gets nice and tight

still worse than bfv smg hipfire though

despite the maps being significantly larger

[naive magnet]

Any heli pilot worth their grain of salt will chase a Lis

Or anyone running AA

I just wish a lissile would kill attack helis in one shot

Hokums take like 85% damage

[fresh lintel]

But after they die? It seems kinda pathetic at that point.

[naive magnet]

You ruined their fun

They’ll ruin yours

It’s a trade you gotta make haha

[fresh lintel]

If their fun is playing a cancerous playstyle that has no counter outside of a AA Wildcat

[naive magnet]

A stealth chopper and littlebird get one shot by Lis

[fresh lintel]

Thats why I play her.

[naive magnet]

I play her too; but you’re basically making yourself a target

Certain maps I’ll ignore and play CQC objectives

But as a guy that guns for a handful of heli pilots, I promise you, if you shoot at us, we will remember you

[fresh lintel]

Like when I attack stealths or any air I make sure theyre not looking or i'm in a hiding spot

[naive magnet]

Directionally we’ll track you

And kill you

[torpid falcon]

Worst map got to be Hourglass

[fresh lintel]

Its just: At least Little birds can be locked onto by anything and doesnt OHK everything

Stealths its like.. You either first pick the wildcat and be AA or pray to god the stealth is stupid or you catch it with the TGM. Because its not going down otherwise

[naive magnet]

The littlebird in my mind is the most powerful heli

[copper fulcrum]

But can it make a grilled cheese?

[torpid falcon]

How the fuck does a frag grenade damage a tank

[thick shadow]

Idk man

[copper fulcrum]

a small amount

[vale gale]

can i cap my fps?

[thick shadow]

Worry about knives being able to destroy walls

[copper ice]

frags actually are pretty decent avainst tanks in 2042

biggest issue is the fuse time

[thick shadow]

Dawg dont frags do like a piss amount of dmg against tanks

[fresh lintel]

Regardless i think the stealth is the only thing I want removed. Like its on par with Infiltrators or A2G ESFs in planetside with how.. Cancerous it is.

[copper ice]

piss damage is still damage

[thick shadow]

But you say pretty decent

[copper ice]

its better than a full mag of auto rorsch

or any gun with AP rounds

[thick shadow]

What is pretty decent my good guy

[copper ice]

nothing really does good damage vs tanks in 2042 apart from c5 and the javelin

[thick shadow]

It better take out the rocket on orbital

[copper ice]

but javs are piss easy to block

and c5s have no range

so for what frags are they do decent damage vs tanks

[thick shadow]

Well if you say so lmao

[naive magnet]

I don’t think stealth choppers are that bad

HE bombs and shit, sure it’s annoying

But it’s countered by pilots, ground, LIS

[copper ice]

i want the damage of basically everything else that hurts tanks buffed other than frag nades

they're that kind of decent

what on ground counters stealth choppers apart from lis?

and wildcat

30mm wildcat specifically

[naive magnet]

You can M5 it, LATV4 50

[thick shadow]

Do we have sticky bombs in the game

[copper ice]

a dumbfire launcher is not exactly a counter to a flying vehicle

if you hit one itll die yeah but like

[naive magnet]

That’s the trade off

[copper ice]

you have to actually hit it

[naive magnet]

It’s not easy, but I’ve gotten more than a handful when I ran the M5

[copper ice]

thats like calling the panzerfaust a counter to the jubba

[naive magnet]

I agree with your counter

[white geyser]

I’m not tired using the M5A3 rifle even I unlocked most of the attachments.

Stealth choppers they won’t protect you against the AA wildcat

[naive magnet]

It’s not ideal; but it works because it’s a one shot

[copper ice]

it happens but it's a desperation move rather than a counter

like rolling a nat 20

[naive magnet]

That’s fair

Nat 17+

I run the LATV4 a ton with full squads

So running solo has that disadvantage already

[copper ice]

If they're any decent at flying they'll stay high enough up to reduce m5 hitrate to Very Low

[robust vapor]

I need you in my team

my squad

for I'll hunt vehicles alongside

[copper ice]

50mm jeep can hurt as well but it also makes a fantastic bombing target

[naive magnet]

Well if you ever want to play; my buddies and I are on most nights haha

As long as you’re 21+

[copper ice]

and god its so silly that one of the best things to hurt choppers is the fucking jeep

[robust vapor]

heck ye

[naive magnet]

The jeep was my first T1

[copper ice]

i cannot wait for the vehicle loadout changes

[naive magnet]

My buddies and me abuse the 40mm

[copper ice]

it better neuter the fucking jeep

[naive magnet]

ABUSE

[robust vapor]

in jeep vs jeep 1v1 the 50mm cannon shreds 30mm faster

[copper ice]

the 40mm is really strong and its still the second worst jeep weapon

isnt that silly

[naive magnet]

If you’re running the jeep to counter Jeeps you’re doing it wrong haha

[white geyser]

40mm reloads faster than the 50mm

[robust vapor]

it was a jeep i picked up off

[naive magnet]

The 50mm on the jeep is gnarly until you run out of ammo spamming crap

[robust vapor]

i think it was a player abandoned jeep

so i tend to steal vehicles

[naive magnet]

It has to be used very carefully, and it’s ass At anti personnel

[copper ice]

50mm actually has a reload time

30mm is like

constantly there

you just have to feather the trigger for a moment when it almost overheats

[naive magnet]

Managing the 30mm is good, I’ve had enough practice with my pilots, but nobody can drive the jeep like me so I have to drive haha

[white geyser]

It’s been long time I never use the 50mm for the AA wildcat since I got so busy destroying choppers

[naive magnet]

On the Wildcat I run AA missiles and the 57

40mm and 60mm mortars

[copper ice]

non-AA wildcat is just worse than the ram

[naive magnet]

Ehhhh

Ram is kinda soft

It was my second t1

[robust vapor]

non-AA wildcat hurts infantry a lot

[naive magnet]

If you’re taking a wildcat to kill infantry I hate you

[copper ice]

the 40mm cannon on wildcat is ass

[robust vapor]

I got hurt by one yesterday

💀

[copper ice]

and the 57mm is not very good vs infantry

[naive magnet]

It’s not, I relegate myself to anti vehicle with my wildcat

[copper ice]

ram shits on infantry

[naive magnet]

But you can still pick infantry

With the 57

[copper ice]

ram also gets insane versatility with teamwide spawn beacon

[robust vapor]

I'll check my AA + AT loadout

[naive magnet]

Most teams are brain dead and don’t use the beacon

[robust vapor]

for the wildcat

the beacon is cheeky I like it

[white geyser]

This is my loadout for the AA wildcat and the other loadouts, barrage missile and 60mm flak

[naive magnet]

Beacon bottom side D1 on orbital is my money maker

[copper ice]

thats exactly what id run godkiller

maybe 60mm mortar instead

[naive magnet]

Popping flares has more value imo

More zoning potential

Helis piss off

[copper ice]

means your vehicle damage is poor

[naive magnet]

But you lose the ability to readily engage ground armor

Which is why I run the 57

[copper ice]

heli players are generally used to getting locked on to, vehicle players panic more when it happens

57mm is poo against air

[ivory canopy]

idk I don't usually run wildcat but I like the 30mm cannons the best

[naive magnet]

Take that back

[upbeat sand]

i hate 40mm wildcat

[naive magnet]

A 57 on anything air is at least 20%

[copper ice]

20% is poo

[ivory canopy]

I think they meant hitting it?

[naive magnet]

20% is substantial

[fresh lintel]

The AA Cannon wildcat is the best one. Since it already does damage to vehicles and you can just kit the passenger guns to AV.

[copper ice]

30mm is the only thing in the game that can actually kill a poorly positioned aircraft before it escapes

[naive magnet]

I probably have some 57 clips lemme see

[copper ice]

20% isn't nothing but its not high enough for what it is

[naive magnet]

It’s nice because it has dual function

[white geyser]

I really like the AA wildcat but I’m disappointed for not adding a non lock-on missile like tv missile or other standard missiles

[copper ice]

30mm wildcat deserves better damage against infantry

[fresh lintel]

That and because i'd rather AA over having a Stealth run rampant because haha funny deletion button that you cant spot hear or SOFLAM

[naive magnet]

You can target both ground and air with 57 and get your moneys worth

[ivory canopy]

I don't often run a transport either but my greater preference is vastly toward the 40mmGL

[copper ice]

soflam makes the AT missiles work on helis too yeah

[robust vapor]

if only wildcat has TOW missile

for other gunner seats

[copper ice]

if i was gonna target ground id just pick ram

[fresh lintel]

I like how SOFLAM makes the missile lock onto tanks too

[copper ice]

if aircraft exists 30mm wildcat, if not targeting aircraft then RAM

[fresh lintel]

Except no one runs those tools

[ivory canopy]

I T1'd that tool already

lmfao

[fresh lintel]

I just run Wildcat AA regardless.

[copper ice]

whats the point in running soflam when everything in the game has flares

or thermal smoke

[naive magnet]

Thanks for reminding me

[fresh lintel]

Even if theres no air (or the air is smart) I can still support my tanks and infantry

[copper ice]

30mm is good because it tells flares to eat shit

[fresh lintel]

Or is a stealth and cant be locked onto anyways lmao

[naive magnet]

I gotta switch to active defense or whatever on a couple things

[copper ice]

and making a tank pop thermal smoke fucks its own vision up

[naive magnet]

Ha my first 57 clip is stupid AF

Hit an infantry twice with the 57

Direct on infantry somehow managed to do 75%

[fresh lintel]

If you play third person in tank: The smoke is just a minor inconvenience

[copper ice]

fuckin APS on tanks

[fresh lintel]

I run repair

[copper ice]

minor inconvenience is still more than flares for heli

[naive magnet]

I run APS and Thermal on my tank

[fresh lintel]

Less chance of being stolen and because it works with my playstyle

[copper ice]

aps and thermal is such a good way to make javelins fucking useless

[fresh lintel]

Or just backing up

[copper ice]

what if they had TWO buttons that told you to fuck off

and one recharges while the other is up

[radiant prism]

@naive magnet its time

get on

lets run it

:)

[naive magnet]

Yessir

[copper ice]

javs should be firing a fucking nuke with how hard it is to land them

[naive magnet]

Can’t VC though 😦

[radiant prism]

lies

[naive magnet]

Fine fine

If someone wakes up in this house and hates me, I’ll throw you under the bus

[copper ice]

repairs on tanks are solid but id argue aps is better

[radiant prism]

fair

[naive magnet]

Half the issue with tanks is escaping

[copper ice]

especially if anyone decides to repair you

[naive magnet]

So the double protection gives you maybe an extra 5s or so to escape

[copper ice]

aps is a flat immortality button

and if multiple people shoot you at once they all get fucked

repair only covers 1 rockets worth normally

and gets interrupted by damage

(not that that tends to happen with 5.5 second reloads)

[naive magnet]

Ehh, wildcats and other AP rounds mess that up

[copper ice]

only thing aps doesnt help with is c5 (repairs wont save you there) and TOR (repair wont save you there either)

[naive magnet]

The only vehicles I run repair with are the LaTV4 and the RAM

Mainly for driving purposes

[pulsar cloak]

is there a google doc or website somewhere that has all of the specific damage numbers for all the weapons? sym.gg is extremely outdated from what i can tell

[naive magnet]

Need the speed

[copper ice]

check the pins in syms discord channel

[naive magnet]

What are you looking for in particular?

[pulsar cloak]

sym has a discord? got a link by chance?

[naive magnet]

I could tell you the meta weapons right now haha

[copper ice]

sym.gg is still accurate for most things but yeah its old data

[copper ice]

the join code is just symgg

[radiant prism]

hang on my headset is being all kinds of fucky

[pulsar cloak]

im trying to pick a weapon to put AP rounds on, but i dont want to reduce number of shots to kill.

[naive magnet]

No sweat gecc

I will say AP rounds on the whole are not worth your time

If you’re trying to use them very very very situationally

Then maybe, but 95% of the time you’re gonna lose out on accuracy, damage to infantry, or you won’t confirm kills to vehicles

[copper ice]

AP rounds universally reduce btk unfortunately

[naive magnet]

I’d generally suggest avoiding them altogether, but that’s also potentially depends on what game type you run

[copper ice]

they are major ass and almost never worth using

[pulsar cloak]

i joined symgg discord, but havent found the "pins". what tab is it under?

[copper ice]

the 2042 channel

pins are at the top of the window if on pc

[naive magnet]

TFW you realize you haven’t had an underbarrel on your AC9 the entire time

[copper ice]

swipe left if on mobile

[pulsar cloak]

you are the man! ty!

[naive magnet]

Ha chunky I had the 6ku on it already, good call my man

[copper ice]

if you're going for primary damage to vehicles for one of the weapon unlocks, i think the underbarrel grenade launchers count

I wish it was easier to check if the 6ku was worth it or not

god forbid dice put a damage graph in the game

its not like they ALREADY HAD ONE in bf1 or anything

[naive magnet]

BF1? That was like 100 years ago

No but I agree

[copper ice]

ancient technology

[radiant prism]

Historically speaking yes

[copper ice]

the way to craft lost to time

[naive magnet]

I like BF1s historical takes on campaign

Actually learned a bit shooting noobs

[pulsar cloak]

im just trying to put together a Lis setup that is full anti-vehicle. LMG with AP and underbarrel grenades. or maybe the NTW-50, but it feels REAL bad

[radiant prism]

BF1 from a historical standpoint is even more atrocious than its mechanics

[pulsar cloak]

i just started a few weeks ago. i unlocked the rorsch, thinking it would do something useful, but i dont think it even damages tanks, or if so, very little

[naive magnet]

How so?

If you’re using any primary weapon to try and damage vehicles, you’re on the wrong path

[radiant prism]

Anachronism galore, all kinds of unfair historical depiction, particularly on the side of the ottomans

[radiant prism]

The rorsch damages vehicles, but it is very little. If you want to damage vehicles, you'll need a rocket launcher on the engineer class or some other anti vehicle explosive

[arctic grove]

BF1 feels like alternative WW1 and I’m all there for it. It occasionally and obviously deviates for gameplay intensive purposes but it doesn’t break my suspension of disbelief

[naive magnet]

I run Lis with AT mines, and the RM68, if you REALLY wanted to commit to ground vehicles, I’d opt for the Scar with AP barrel

[copper ice]

anything with 40mm AP ubgl is the way to go

[upbeat sand]

NTW and roche id say if your playing antitank its best to use em as mirco damage to stop repairs or finishing blow

[copper ice]

drastically more damage than any AP rounds do

[arctic grove]

Like I can understand it wants to represent WW1 but also has to include things for gameplay

[copper ice]

rorsch used to be ok against vehicles but got hammered down hard

NTW with it's own special brand of AP rounds is ok, but you only get 3 shots a mag and it takes ages to shoot and reload

40mm fires faster than the ntw does

[copper ice]

you also have to unlock the AP rounds on ntw lol

the default ntw ammo is shit vs vehicles

scratches the paint

[upbeat sand]

his 1080 is commiting self genocide

[pulsar cloak]

wow, the symgg google doc is very incomplete

[copper ice]

if you're looking for AP ammo damage against vehicles it's negligible across the board

they didnt even bother including it because it was so low

for some reason devs refuse to buff it

[arctic grove]

Well you can get like 2 of em with a resupply plus the HE grenades

[copper ice]

well its not really some reason its because vehicle mains complain if they can actually die

[arctic grove]

So if there’s any thought behind them at all it’s that it would cause imbalance

[copper ice]

the 40mm AP nades are solid

theyre actually too good

[fresh lintel]

Theres no need to buff AP. Its already bad enough that it damages tanks lmao

[pulsar cloak]

im just looking for AP damage against infantry. to see if any of them dont reduce TTK by having the right drop-off numbers

[copper ice]

like their dps is higher against vehicles than anything else in the game

oh nah the AP ammo universally drops a btk by 1

even on the ntw

[arctic grove]

Anything infantry can spawn in with unless it’s a deliberate c4 or rocket type thing probably is better off being used to finish off already weak vehicles as opposed to being capable to do damage to get them there

[copper ice]

which is a 1 hit kill gun

[arctic grove]

Which is why I hated the NTW

[copper ice]

on one hand i agree

on the other hand, dudes going 110 - 0 should not be happening

and with irish APS negating rockets you turn to primary weapons, which... all suck

leaving you going as you get vehicle farmed

god i fucking hope they nerf irish

[arctic grove]

IMO strong counters but strong vehicles as well, but idk, ground vehicles like tanks in particular can be caught from blind spots and don’t maneuver all that well

[copper ice]

they said they were improving him and dozer

[arctic grove]

So it’s best that they just probably stay where they are with your best bets being put in c5 and rockets

[copper ice]

yeah tanks suck at maneuvering in 2042

but you can avoid that weakness entirely by just camping

[fresh lintel]

But at the same time Irish is needed if you want to play the game and not Shell Shock simulator

[open hamlet]

BF3 tanks were better IMO

[copper ice]

c5 are really strong against vehicles but again they can just camp to avoid them

[fresh lintel]

BF3 Tanks felt really nice.

Especially the shotgun secondary for the driver uwu

[arctic grove]

If BF3 tanks are the same as the BF4 ones then I agree, I feel like BF4 had very good infantry vs tank balancing

I never really play BF3 online cause it hasn’t aged well for that

[open hamlet]

BF3 online was full of Colonel ranks when I started

Forced me to be a BF3 Col 15 vet

[pulsar cloak]

heres a stupid question. do Ghostmaker explosive bolts damage vehicles?

[open hamlet]

Their armor there was better though compared to the ones in 2042

[copper ice]

there's no infantry counter to vehicles that avoid the only real counter infantry have

The rockets in 2042 have very poor damage for their reload times

[copper ice]

yes but only marginally

[open hamlet]

For some reason I do better with a MAV than I do with a tank in 2042

[copper ice]

easier to focus on driving?

or being a universal spawn point meaning your gunner positions are always full

[arctic grove]

True, I feel like Lis promotes a lot of tank camping

[copper ice]

lis and c5 make pushing as a tank baaad

[arctic grove]

But hell in general if tanks have a high spot and see like a whole team below them they’ll sit far away and farm souls

[copper ice]

c5 annihilates tanks and lis keeps them chip damaged so they don't want to push because not full health

but lis cant actually do enough damage to kill

so it's like both sides are just annoyed

while the tank is still raining down fire and brimstone

2042 tanks dont even need Irish to be good at camping but he just makes them absolutely insufferable

[arctic grove]

I think Irish changes are coming in season 5

Dozer too apparently

I dunno what they’ll do to dozer but that aps problem should be dead by then

[copper ice]

I'm concerned by the way they described them as improvements

but surely there is no fucking way to buff Irish at this point

[arctic grove]

Also without changing the explosive spam this game has even with Irish aps the Irish improvements might just make the gameplay even more annoying

[copper ice]

I don't want him nerfed against infantry

I just want APS to not affect rockets

[arctic grove]

Ah yeah fair enough, I was just saying in general since I’m pretty sure APS is gonna get fucked over in some way

[copper ice]

I hate him conceptually but there's so many fucking explosives in 2042 that he's a grim necessity

The emp change was good

but it only nerfed him against infantry where he's actually in emp range

a camping tank further than 50m away is not emp distance

it just needs to let rockets go through

im very concerned they're going to make it worse vs infantry without making it not immortalise tanks

like putting a cooldown on it or something

that would be the worst way to handle it

[slender isle]

Dozer will hopefully not have that stupid sensitivity change

[copper ice]

At least it's safe to assume dozer buff lol

cant believe they're still refusing to buff boris though

[robust vapor]

USAS 12 with frag rounds

[acoustic seal]

why does dozer get an OHK again?

[robust vapor]

back in BF4

[copper ice]

dozer honestly isn't even bad

he's just niche

[pulsar cloak]

i dont have all the weapons unlocked, so i cant see this yet. anyone know which LMGs can have the underbarrel grenade launcher?

[copper ice]

the maps are 95% too large and wide for him to be useful

[copper ice]

LCMG

[arctic grove]

Dice probably hates themselves for even adding Boris turret and ranger

[copper ice]

i understand leaving boris shit when we didnt have classes

[acoustic seal]

that would require them to be capable of thought

[copper ice]

I dont think many people would complain

but boris is now 1 of 2 specialists who can use launchers

that makes him really fucking important

and he is fucking SHIT

there is literally nothing in the game that wouldn't be better than his turret right now

his gadget could be a random button that gives you a random piece of equipment out of everything the game has to offer from gadgets to guns and it would still be better than his turret

[next sorrel]

just dont play 2042 and play a better game

[copper ice]

and his passive does nothing but improve his turret, which is still the worst thing in the entire game

he's complete dog

[acoustic seal]

actually i've taken to playing a game that's just as shit but in a different genre

fuggem shooters

[copper ice]

gacha?

[acoustic seal]

ff14

[upbeat sand]

MONEY MONEY MONEY MONEY

[next sorrel]

cant relate i only play good games from 1-3 decades ago

[copper ice]

come now you cant compare ff14 and 2042

that's harsh

[acoustic seal]

i'm writing this from a state of stormblood ptsd

[copper ice]

it's poo but it's like. Gilded poop

[stiff flax]

Are there any tutorials out there for basic flight controls so that I don't feel like the most inept toddler going up against the Red Baron every time I try to fly in this game?

[copper ice]

2042 is like a poo took a poo

[remote kiln]

https://youtu.be/g6KHUCxVKT8

[copper ice]

guide to jet; KILL VEHICLES KILL VEHICLES

[acoustic seal]

there aren't any basic usage videos as far as i'm aware, owing to the fact that all the mechanics from bf4 were stripped out

[stiff flax]

Thank you!!

[remote kiln]

np

[copper ice]

the solution is to avoid flying and retain your humanity

every time you die that's your heart beating

[next sorrel]

if i had image perms id send snoopy trying to shoot down the red baron

[copper ice]

flying leaves you hollow and bloodless

[slender isle]

Did you guys know the rpt does not have access to any form of suppression

no suppressor, no subsonic ammo

nothing

[acoustic seal]

ok, and?

[stiff flax]

Don't need to suppress them when ya just kill em

[next sorrel]

whats the best battlefield

[snow estuary]

2042

Joking

[acoustic seal]

3, in a universe where suppression wasn't put in the game

[copper ice]

as of right this second?

[snow estuary]

Im stuck between 3 and 4

[stiff flax]

I've always been partial to BC2 but that might be bias from my (relatively) younger days.

[snow estuary]

3’s suppression mechanic was awful

[copper ice]

or in a conceptual perfectland where devs didnt make bad updates and only good updates

[snow estuary]

But 4 has tons of variety

[next sorrel]

suppression is a good feature change my mind

[remote kiln]

no it was shit

[next sorrel]

this second

[snow estuary]

Not in BF3 it wasnt

It was so broken in BF3

[next sorrel]

you have to try harder than "no"

[copper ice]

probably bf4

[remote kiln]

it turned gunfights into a mess and broke down tactical gameplay into who hits the luckiest shot first

[acoustic seal]

rewarding people for missing their shots is cringe

that's it, you don't need anything else

[next sorrel]

rewarding people for not getting kills is cringe too but now we have kill assist count as kill so

[copper ice]

rewarding people for missing is actually based it just has to be done not badly

[remote kiln]

if you think suppression in bf3 was good you're on heavy copium for not being able to aim

tldr

[snow estuary]

The perk to reduce it was broken too wasnt it lol

[next sorrel]

hey... my accuracy is 18.4% :(

[acoustic seal]

most fair gunfights in bf1 were decided by suppression and went to whoever missed first, that's incredibly dumb

[remote kiln]

it shows

[snow estuary]

I hated bf1

[stiff flax]

Suppression was good when it benefitted me, and awful trash when it was to my detriment 😠

[next sorrel]

idc about suppressing other people

[copper ice]

2042 gunplay feels so heartless because even when the bullets go ripping past your face you don't feel anything

[next sorrel]

i like being suppressed

[snow estuary]

Using LMG with 200 rounds to suppress a squad

2042 is incredibly lacking

[copper ice]

^ this unironically

[snow estuary]

I want to play V but the only servers available on pc are european servers

[remote kiln]

suppression was that shit that even DICE said BF3's implementation was a mistake

[copper ice]

even in bfv where suppression did almost nothing it still tightened the screen up

[next sorrel]

idc what dice says they made 2042 lol

[copper ice]

there was a minor sense of atmosphere

[snow estuary]

nah bro bf3 suppression was actually terrible

[remote kiln]

you should, cause they said fuck all back then

[copper ice]

2042 is so sterile

[snow estuary]

What did it affect again? Recoil/spread and vision?

[remote kiln]

if they say something it has significance

[upbeat sand]

they
literally said
the devs themselves
said it was a mistake

[remote kiln]

bullet direction when firing, spread and vision

yes that means what it did was make bullets not hit straight

[snow estuary]

Whats bullet direction vs spread?

[next sorrel]

so? i think for myself

[remote kiln]

spread is the non-ADS view of the weapon

[next sorrel]

again, they made 2042 lol

[copper ice]

devs said smgs having higher than 1.25x headshot multiplier was a mistake

[remote kiln]

the (potential) spread

[upbeat sand]

i think its 100% not returning since they said its a mistake too add it

[copper ice]

there's a lot easier ways to criticise bf3 suppression than highly inconsistent dev words

[remote kiln]

what BF3 suppression did that nobody mentions which is why it was shit was make ADS bullet direction, entirely random

if you were being suppressed you would not hit your target

[next sorrel]

just aim better

[snow estuary]

Just compensate for the bullet direction

[remote kiln]

I think we've established you've got bad opinions

[snow estuary]

Like its CSGO

[acoustic seal]

increased spread in ADS

in more accurate words

[copper ice]

bullet spawned and decided your gun was facing 60 degrees vertically instead

[next sorrel]

then stop entertaining them and let me yell into the void

[upbeat sand]

• literal random uncontrollable bullets
• aim better

[snow estuary]

AEK was far better than the M16/M4 in BF3

[remote kiln]

it's just bad bait

[snow estuary]

Cant change my mind

[copper ice]

if bullets go not on target simply aim not at your target

[next sorrel]

no, its my opinion

[robust vapor]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vjiHkismScQ

best missile

for non transport aircrafts

[next sorrel]

theres no clown awards on discord man, i have no reason to bait

[remote kiln]

lol if this is your legit opinion then I think you need to get your brain examined

sorry but not sorry

[copper ice]

then target is not target and thus not target becomes the target for the bullets travelling to the not target because they cant hit the target

it's not rocket science

[snow estuary]

Just use shorgun

Shotgun

[remote kiln]

it affected all weapons

[next sorrel]

if you cannot kill people while suppressed then i think that is a you problem. bullet deviation shouldve been lesser but saying it was impossible to get kills seems like an overreaction

[remote kiln]

shotguns worst of all

[snow estuary]

Yeah I was just about ask that lmfao

[acoustic seal]

the bullet knows where it is at all times, it knows this because it knows where it isn't

[next sorrel]

same

[remote kiln]

it was especially prolific with flak shells because the spread could magically one shot someone 50m away

[snow estuary]

I think what pisses me off the most about this franchise is how often people survive with 1-10hp

Idk that screams bs to me

[chrome storm]

Definitely like the way the fnb server thing works with the staying on the server and just changing maps. It's what bf 2042 needs.

[next sorrel]

it just the damage model

[snow estuary]

I know

Its still annoying

[next sorrel]

its unfixable

[snow estuary]

The damage model ruins anything lower than 700 rpm if you ask me

[remote kiln]

it's definitely not unfixable

[snow estuary]

Why would I use a gun that shoots 600rpm and is a 5sk over a gun that shoots 900rpm and takes 5stk?

[vocal wing]

is there even a mention of problem fix with cpu usage since updates a week or so ago?

[next sorrel]

other factors

[copper ice]

usually because the 600rpm has better accuracy

[remote kiln]

you're about 4-7 weeks late

[snow estuary]

Recoil and what, spread?

I used the Famas with heavy barrel and stubby grip in bf4

[copper ice]

the issue is that 2042 has no accuracy

[snow estuary]

ZERO FEAR.

[next sorrel]

idk about bf4 but in bf3 famas eats ammo and has bad range accuracy

[upbeat sand]

they've been working on steady optimisation for a while now

[copper ice]

if you click on heads all guns will eat it

so you just pick best damage

[next sorrel]

eat it faster

[vocal wing]

mine became unplayalbe about 2 weeks ago I think? went from 90-100fps to 30

[snow estuary]

Its arguably better because of the attachments

[copper ice]

yea that's the issue

[snow estuary]

Base is worse in bf4

[vocal wing]

Their optimisation release is what hurt my game the most..

[remote kiln]

er definitely not something that's been public, likely just you

or you and a small minority*

[copper ice]

game is large enough that optimisation fixes will impact random players negatively

[upbeat sand]

def a personal maybe hardware problem

[copper ice]

this happened during bfv and bf1 also

[next sorrel]

oh yeah, today they delisted bad company

[vocal wing]

9900k, 2080, medium settins 30 fps at best.

[next sorrel]

rip

[fresh lintel]

Just had the sweatiest fucking conquest match

Fucking RM68 users ;-;

[copper ice]

wait for next patch probably

[snow estuary]

RM68field 2042

[remote kiln]

no clue my guy the changelog hasn't mentioned optimisations for weeks now

[snow estuary]

God I hate that gun

[copper ice]

rm68 is what happens when all guns are the same accuracy

[fresh lintel]

Bloom when?

[karmic egret]

rm68 is what happens when you snort to much coke before work

[remote kiln]

rpt*

[vocal wing]

Yea, as I said its been 2-3 weeks, it was their "use your cpu better" optimization that tanked mine. CPU is pinged at 100% now

[copper ice]

at some point they add something that has good damage and high rof

and then it just wins

[snow estuary]

The gunplay in this game is too easy when I can just slap on accuracy attachments and beam someone across the map with 0 effort

[remote kiln]

that was implemented in season 3, so not sure where you're getting this from

[karmic egret]

as hodd toward said "it just works"

[upbeat sand]

mmm im sure u can still get some steam kays from third parties like Poker night 2

[copper ice]

the attachments are barely making a difference

[remote kiln]

seems to be a bit random of a occurrence

[copper ice]

you're just beaming them yourself

[next sorrel]

yes but it is officially delisted

[snow estuary]

How much do they actually affect the gun

[karmic egret]

deco your from scotland?

[copper ice]

depends on the specific attachment but ranges from 5% to 10%

[remote kiln]

ye Glasgow

[copper ice]

which is fuck all

[snow estuary]

Good enough

[karmic egret]

ok what is the biggest insult i can throw at a scot (I have a deathwish)

[copper ice]

10% of already pinpoint accurate is still pinpoint accurate

[snow estuary]

Is the fire rate changes in attachments accurate?

[copper ice]

they all come with minor downsides too

[snow estuary]

Cause rn my M5 shits out bullets faster than most guns

[copper ice]

rof is often incorrect but m5 really does shoot that fast

[upbeat sand]

Am40

PKP

[copper ice]

it gets called the best smg in the game for good reason

[upbeat sand]

short close combat BSVM

[snow estuary]

I literslly slapped on the light barrel and just laser people like in cod

😭

[remote kiln]

depends how far you want to go, if you want to end up in hospital you can just be in the wrong area with the wrong coloured t-shirt, want to end up in a fight you can call somebody some bad words

[copper ice]

short barrel is best in slot attachment for everything that has it

Just a free dps boost

[snow estuary]

i hope they add these attachments to the portal weapons

[copper ice]

It's silly

[karmic egret]

is asking a scot what part of england they are from enough?

[snow estuary]

And give me an ACR skin that isnt that ugly tan color

[remote kiln]

nah not really, some have family members who come from England, it's a normal question

not one myself but isn't considered an insult

[copper ice]

they're devs not miracle workers

[karmic egret]

are scots big on tea as much as the poms (english)

[remote kiln]

depends who you ask

the alcohol more so than the tea universally

[karmic egret]

ah okey, because im going to prank my english aunt when she comes over to australia im going to put the milk in with the teabag first before the water

[remote kiln]

lol that's normal

[karmic egret]

just a mild bit of tomfoolery

I should write a letter to the king

[remote kiln]

he might reply

[karmic egret]

because technically he is king of australia (idk for how much longer)

[remote kiln]

I think there was a poll something like 75% of us up north didn't care for the kings coronation

which speaks for itself

[karmic egret]

Im gonna watch it

[grim goblet]

anyone having the persistantance data error?

[karmic egret]

something i should experience once in my life

[remote kiln]

most folk here know about the bank holiday more than the king actually being coronated

ironically

[karmic egret]

i mean at least charles III is actually the third charles of scotland, unlike elizabeth II who should have been Elizabeth I of scotland

apparantley alot of scots got butthurt when she chose her regal name

[remote kiln]

whole 2 people probably

[karmic egret]

yeah alot of australians dont care for the monarchy nor do they want to see it go

[remote kiln]

monarchy isn't really talked about here, as much as you'd think otherwise with the independence movement

[karmic egret]

we are very apathetic towards it

[remote kiln]

I'd expect commonwealth countries to be the most apathetic

[karmic egret]

yeah the independence thing I dont want to talk about becuase it's not really my business as a foreigner to explain to a scot

[remote kiln]

sure

[karmic egret]

whoops i forgot to put dont sorry

but we can talk about it if you want

[remote kiln]

I mean I'm not bothered lol, indifferent to the issue in general

more concerned by my blurry vision from laser eye surgery than anything

[karmic egret]

yeah in australia we have our noisy republican movement but like 20% of australians arent sure about whether to ditch the monarchy

[remote kiln]

it's pretty polarising here in general, lot of folk have inter-family differences etc

that bad there's been divorces over it

[karmic egret]

yeah alot of people are still hung up on diana

but as someone who was born after her death I couldnt care less about her

[gritty tapir]

wth. why did they switch how you move attachments around

[karmic egret]

too make it easier and less buggy

[remote kiln]

so console players can remove attachments

[karmic egret]

yeah the old system was very buggy for me

and confusing

[karmic egret]

Im in the category of keeping the monarchy, I think it makes us unique as one of the few countries to have a monarchy and i also cant trust the major parties with that much power

[remote kiln]

meh yeah fair

[karmic egret]

i also understand the republican side aswell having our head of state but the novelty of a president of australia will wear off after 5 minutes

[fresh lintel]

Silencer standard ammo SFAR in CQC is dumb

But also fuck the super 500 remove that gun lmao

[robust vapor]

💀

[twin ibex]

I just found out that you don't need to reach another 100 levels for S002 for some reason I thought that

[errant scarab]

Discarded rework after 5 minutes everything is flat

[onyx solstice]

Neat!

[twin ibex]

They really need to nerf the super 500 can't play a single round without seeing that annoying shit and being one tapped from meters away

Games fr becoming battlefield super 42

[onyx solstice]

I can relate.

[upbeat sand]

Battlefield 500

[fresh lintel]

Honestly its an issue when you're vibing and suddenly some bunny hopping guy survives because he shot you once

[royal swan]

A issue that sounds like a skill issue

[twin ibex]

Even if you catch him off guard he'll turn around in a millisecond and one tap you

The shits broken af

[royal swan]

Skill issue, why the fuck are you that close to him anyways

For the super to work you need to be breathing down his neck

Any farther ranges you have an advantage

[fresh lintel]

My brother in christ this game revolves around CQC.

[royal swan]

That determines on the map

[fresh lintel]

The question is why is there a shotgun secondary

[royal swan]

Which there is only 2-3 ish

[fresh lintel]

We dont need it.

[royal swan]

That's sounds like a biased complaint

[fresh lintel]

It was Kaleido and on our C point where he mag dumped someone, jumped and survived because hehehaha punished for shooting his leg and he hits me once

[royal swan]

Been in the franchise, why remove it

It makes sense to add it

[fresh lintel]

Yeah its going to be biased because its fucking overpowered? Like lmao.

[royal swan]

Been in bf4

Bf1

Bfh

[fresh lintel]

The one game I didnt play because it felt like shit.

[twin ibex]

my brother in Christ what

Bf1?

[fresh lintel]

Bf4

[royal swan]

There is a pistol

That acts like a shotgun

[fresh lintel]

I didnt like BF4

The revolver pistol that had barely any range from what I seen of it?

[twin ibex]

it's the obrez pistol and that thing wasn't even good compared to other guns anyways

[royal swan]

Ok and?

The majority does

[fresh lintel]

Whereas in this game secondary weapons can dumpster primary

[royal swan]

People fucking worship bf4

[fresh lintel]

I.e G57, NVK

I know that. But it wasnt BF3.

[twin ibex]

we even have a shotgun that can snipe other people across the map

What is dice on

[fresh lintel]

Going from a clunky movement which was enjoyable to BF4 with its 500 different attacments per gun. And weird ass fucking maps. No thanks.

[royal swan]

Didn't bf3 have the usas

[fresh lintel]

The useless auto because it got nerfed into the ground?

Yeah.

[royal swan]

The beloved usas

[fresh lintel]

The SPAS was better. The 870 was better. The Saiga was better. Lmao

[royal swan]

Not as iconic tho

Didn't do the damage

Usas put a scar

[fresh lintel]

But they were all balanced funnily enough. Where here the shotties have too much range.

And this is coming from someone who likes using shotguns.

But still, we already have the G57 to dominate in CQC for pistols. We didnt need a shotgun with enough spread to make aiming redundant.

As a secondary.

[royal swan]

I think the shorty is balanced enough to be underperforming against the mighty burst pistol that is the G57

[fresh lintel]

Given enough range sure. But its a shotgun versus a gun that needs to put 3 shots into your head versus 1 shot into any part of your body

In a game where footstep audio is god awful.

[royal swan]

The shorty is only good when you are close the fuck up, the G57 will fuck you faster in that medium-close range than the shorty

[fresh lintel]

I mean the G57 will fuck up a AM40 and PBX so thats a low bar to hit

[royal swan]

Well the pbx is dogshit and the am40 that's if the player is dogshit

[fresh lintel]

Like theres a reason why I use the NVK over the G57. I prefer not using overpowered shit.

Because its not fun.

[royal swan]

And the reason I'm not using the G57, the shorty is very satisfying.

[idle lion]

gotta love joining a game where your team has 0 sectors

garbage game

[royal swan]

Three shells and a dream

[idle lion]

instant leave

[royal swan]

In cq

[idle lion]

obviously

in rush you spawn with 0 sectors

[royal swan]

Valid leave

[fresh lintel]

Yeah i'm just going to pray that shit gets tuned better, in the meantime i'll just keep top fragging 🥴

[royal swan]

It won't get tuned, none of the shotguns do

And it's being overshadowed by the mountains of op weapons

Like the rm68

The sfar

The g57

[fresh lintel]

If they dont then i'm just abusing it.

RM68, SFAR, DM7, G57, Shotties

[royal swan]

Actually if a shotgun is getting nerfed it's the 12m

[fresh lintel]

PP too, as much as I love it.

LMGs need universal tuning. Slower ADS and ready times. Too many times soemone jumps around a corner and gibs me despite i'm using a SFAR lmao

[twin ibex]

I learned how to play the EBAA against aircraft and that thing is stupidly op against them

[royal swan]

Shotty does is job and doesn't outperform very well, the 12m on the other hand

[karmic egret]

lmgs should be like battlefield 1

[slender isle]

You mean impossible to shoot standing up?

[karmic egret]

yes

[twin ibex]

Literally sit fire missiles then fire AA guns repeat till they bail out or get shot down by your missiles or AA gun

and the AA gun shreds

[karmic egret]

i think lmgs should have an overheat mechanic

[slender isle]

Why? These lmgs aren't 900kg anymore lmao. The LCMG is close to I believe 20kg

[royal swan]

Bruh

A over heat to a fucking lcmg

I wanted them nerfed but not this hard

[karmic egret]

yes

so to the pkp

[twin ibex]

that would encourage prone camping with head glitches

[karmic egret]

easy to kill

lob a nade or snipe them

[twin ibex]

not if theyre 500m across the map spraying you down as if it's a sniper rifle

[royal swan]

I take back what I said about the forced hipfire, just buff the recoil when shooting while standing

Lmgs are preferred to be mounted, but I would at least have them given a chance when in most combat scenarios

[upbeat sand]

You could say discarded is no longer

Discarded.

[karmic egret]

HA

[carmine rover]

longest marksman kill of 1,810?

is this a bug?

i got some long shots. but definitely not 1810 meters 😭

[twin ibex]

can't understand anything when your entire screen is a whole other language

[carmine rover]

sorry

it says i got a new personal best of 1810 meters marksman kill

[twin ibex]

oh

[carmine rover]

theyre saying i killed someone 1810 meters away

[twin ibex]

probably

[carmine rover]

and im like. how is that possible

the maps arent even that big

[full burrow]

maybe you wounded someone and they killed themselves somehow and u got the kill

and the maps are stupidly big lol

[carmine rover]

assist kills arent a thing in battlefield 2042

even though it should be

if they died by fall damage or whatever and i shot them first i wouldnt get the kill

[twin ibex]

really itching for a new faction like china

[cold beacon]

after BF4 accident, its not possible

[twin ibex]

wdym

[cold beacon]

well

Chinese deleted BF4 from their stores and all

because they were presented as "bad guys"

[twin ibex]

classic china skull

[cold beacon]

you know, politic stuff

so, they dont try doing that

kind of sad but

what can you do

[twin ibex]

welp any other faction that comes in the game will probably contradict lore if it excludes china

sad

[cold beacon]

I think China was lore-wise destroyed/corrupted or smth

[fresh lintel]

They can vaguely reference China. In 2142 the Panasian or something alliance includes them and russia

The hover tank faction

[cold beacon]

but I dont remember

or they werent mentioned

well the whole motive of no-pats is about people from different countries, but I really hate the idea of clones in different teams running into each other

[fresh lintel]

Thats why I like my helmeted skins and what not

[cold beacon]

true

[fresh lintel]

And this game has less of an excuse but Planetside has it bad for cloneism

[cold beacon]

I'd love like Russia or USA had like different skins for characters and just that

like different races but at least let it be good lore-wise

[fresh lintel]

Or.. This game has characters versus Planetsides: Everyone has 4 faces and thats it.

Besides armor

And yeah some USA/Russian skins would be neat.

Like universal skins

[cold beacon]

yeah, like make no-pats actual no-pats but lore-wise where Russia's side has people that look like Russia's side and USA's that look like USA's

[fresh lintel]

Because I sure as hell dont care if someone is a certain character, this isnt league. If its red its dying

[cold beacon]

I mean, it helps the immersion you know

[twin ibex]

I wonder if bf3 and 4 are apart of the 2042 universe

[cold beacon]

no

those are the same

next game happens after 4 but before 2042 I think

it will be the settlement they will go for

[fresh lintel]

I meant like: If someones playing Paik i'm not going to play against their ability. This game doesnt punish you for not knowing if you cant read a characters look

Jesus i cant english

[cold beacon]

I kinda cant understand wdym

xD

but anyways, some games dealt with it that way. Make the characters look different but give them similar traps, gadgets, weapons, etc.

and for me

it would be perfect

maybe even give them the same things, but make them look different

and its perfect

[carmine rover]

battlefield 4 can still be played in hong kong

just not mainland

[woven acorn]

Whoever gave enemies the red lights on their uniform and then also put a red fire ember outfit skin in the game that friendlies can wear is evil

The amount of times I've been aiming across an area where there's a fire and I've thought the embers were enemies

[mental delta]

T1 skins moment

They could have just made those all black and it could have been 10 times better

[young panther]

thats boring

[left fern]

grinding T1 is boring

[mental delta]

T1 is bad looking anyway

Good pfp btw

[arctic grove]

Nerf jets

[mental delta]

Buff jets

[arctic grove]

No

[mental delta]

Those are shit against ground vehicles

[arctic grove]

Jets are dogshit

Nerf them more so no one uses them

[mental delta]

Yeah because they're useless

[arctic grove]

Using them is like handicapping yourself

Better yet

Delete them all together

The Mk1 spitfire I was playing as in portal shat on the F-35

Like absolutely dogwater

Also can we have more air vehicles that aren't fucking helis

[mental delta]

Jets are bad af in this game and it lacks A-10

[mental delta]

So more planes ?

[next onyx]

There is an a10 in portal but you cannot necessarily use it in 2042.

Besides its 30mm GAU needs a bit of a nerf if they intend to do that.

[mental delta]

AOW requires a modernized version of it

[next onyx]

It doesn't matter either way it's still an AT Jet that needs to be balanced.

[bitter mulch]

we still miss sea warfare tho. The game is marketed as all out warfare

[quaint vector]

I don't miss it

You can't even dive...

[bitter mulch]

gulf of oman, dalian plant, dragon valley are my fav maps. 2 of those you start from a carrier

[gritty tapir]

metro with 128 pls

[bitter mulch]

never really got the metro experience, only from bf5 and it was not good

bad flow

[slender isle]

Do we though

all I remember is constant death to assault boats in BF4 and that's about it cause I never swam or did any of that

[bitter mulch]

i did in odler games. Not played bf4 that much

[slender isle]

Water maps are usually the worst maps in the game too. So... would rather not see it return in this installment

[next sorrel]

metro in bf5 is not nearly as fun

[bitter mulch]

really? i thought it was the same as in BF3

[next sorrel]

nope its actually a completely different map

its only inspired and made by the same map designer apparently

but they are pretty different maps

bf3 metro you spend 100% of the time fighting for B flag or spawncamped but its fun and meat grinder-y

[twin ibex]

how do I set my minimap to be at 100m automatically

[ebon pilot]

career best

[twin ibex]

better than most bf2042 players

[tiny summit]

Mr beast died

Rip

[slender isle]

Boy what you talkin about

[tiny summit]

Anyway who tryna run something lmk

[bitter mulch]

yeah thats what i dont like it about. For me its about conequering the flags not about the kill feed

[next sorrel]

oh then you probably wouldnt like bf3 metro even more lol. i like it better because it embraces the chaos. metro is a rush map anyways

[bitter mulch]

i probably. Conquest is my favorite mode, rush second

[sick eagle]

the only sea vehicles are the rhib,mav and the hovercraft (and certain bf3 vehicles)

[bitter mulch]

yeah not enough. Miss the bf1942 days where you could drive the carrier

[sick eagle]

new sea vehicles would be cool

[granite island]

Squad orders?

What does that mean

Like the bf5 squad order or?

[slender isle]

yes

[granite island]

So bombs?

[ebon stone]

Hello friends!!!!tomorrow evento Conquest 128 - 18h Spanish Hour - Name Server : Valkiria Spanish Community

[wheat iron]

Could be

[granite island]

If so then yay

I like explosions

There needs to be bigger explosions in 2042

[slow tulip]

Make Crawford's machine gun turn around all the directions

[granite island]

Give me a cruise missile that gives a explosion like the one on spearhead

Imagine seeing a huge explosion like that randomly on hourglass

[sick eagle]

they should of kept the spearhead missile

[granite island]

I wish they did

It was cool

[wheat iron]

Could be Bro

[sick eagle]

the game already lacks levolution

[wheat iron]

But ye airstrike is nuce

[granite island]

Watch them release airstrikes like in bfV

Then the community complains so much about them they're nerfed to the ground like bfv v2

[next onyx]

The rockets weren't really changed on bf5 if I remember correctly.

[honest belfry]

this guy is so much cooler than any of the specialists :(

[sick eagle]

and stronger

like the ai have really good accuracy

[granite island]

Simply let the ai do the shooting

You drive

[sick eagle]

why does the panzer have a front mg that doesnt work

[left hollow]

I saw it happen yesterday when I was playing the fnb mode

[sick eagle]

how

[left hollow]

Idk I specifically remember hearing the sirens and seeing the missile

[ebon stone]

Hello everyone! The Spanish community VALKIRIA invites you to tomorrow's event:
Day : Tomorrow SUNDAY 30
Hour: 6:00 p.m.
Mode: conquest 128
Platforms : PC and Next Gen
Name Server : VALKIRIA Spanish Community

We wait for you!

[ebon pilot]

!!lfg

[tender pendant]

ℹ Looking for Players to play with?
Head over to the Looking For Games channel category.
Please remember to state your region when looking for players to play with!
#lfg-crossplay #lfg-pc #lfg-xbox #lfg-playstation

[ebon pilot]

nitro privileges

[sick eagle]

why do nitro owners get rights to !!lfg

[left hollow]

have you guys heard oz's new voice lines on flashpoint?

[pearl ridge]

Whoever target locked that Apache, I am kissing you on the mouth.

[bitter mulch]

Can we all agree the 128p was never the problem, but the maps were so bad that it didnt work

now it woeks

works

[full burrow]

no 128 in itself was a stupid pointless number brag

[pearl ridge]

The problem is that they keep chasing the nebulous concept of chaos rather than having opportunities for intelligent play.

[full burrow]

you need organised chaos

[pearl ridge]

Can’t get a goddamn moment to breathe on the discarded rework

[bitter mulch]

now we all have that we updated maps

[full burrow]

but I dont see how 128 improved on 64 in any single way shape or form

[bitter mulch]

it is chaos and great flow on the maps

[full burrow]

worse for performance, no dev experience with it, and larger maps with more players does not mean equal distribution of players

[bitter mulch]

well maps are bigger, more people

[full burrow]

so you get busy areas with too much chaos and dead zones no one wants to go to cos its too far to get back into the action

[bitter mulch]

this is were the maps come in, you can solve that

discarded plays really good now

action everywhere

[ebon pilot]

so we just need to have constant chaos

i like this idea

[bitter mulch]

i dont want everymap to be metro

just a meat grinder

[ebon pilot]

128 player TDM!

[bitter mulch]

never played BF for that

[sick eagle]

i tried that with 64 players on small maps

[full burrow]

I just think working from 64 would be far more manageable and thus achieve a higher quality result

and up it slowly, like extra sector, its now 76 you know and work like that

they just doubled the player count and fucked up everything around it

soo ambitious especially if you know you only have 6.5 developers working on the game

[bitter mulch]

yeah thats treu

true

but you learn from mistakes

you cant say they didnt turn around the game

im enjoying it

[full burrow]

they imrpoved the game a lot but their attitude still stinks

[bitter mulch]

yeah its not the best bf game, but still

[full burrow]

they release basic updates with little content but advertise and word it like its the fucking bomb

[bitter mulch]

a least they did it