#battlefield-2042
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steam is telling me 30$
Plus nobody runs the DLC for BF1 on player hosted servers anyway.
For the black cell pass on MW2 it’s 30 dollars to get access to all the skins in the battlepass
You eat out once at a restaurant like over $40 with anothe person, get a coffee at Starbucks for 5-6$, go out to eat fast food for 13$, buy a shirt for 25$ a p[air of pants for $50-70, a toy for 50 to 90$ You can pay $40 to $50 for a 16 new maps, new modes, new guns, and gadgets/ vehicles.

and playing on official servers in BF1 is just asking for a bad time.
Your logic makes no sense.
is it perhaps the premium version where it skips 20 tiers? cuz then it makes sense to be f***ing 30
I mainly put this down to 2042 having to fix their maps first. Which I would honestly rather they do. Each map now feels good to play, rather than 8 maps being good and 8 maps being bad
Who is spending 25 dollars on a shirt
Hey, siege costs 15$ to do that
MW2
i paid $18 for this game and i feel robbed
Games offer a lot of universal value to the dollar, meaning each dollar per minute to hour of playability is worth more than most food you eat out, a toy, or clothing.
all those except the toy are food or clothing stuff that's way more important than DLC for a game
I do none of those lmao
You could and should
Besides the fact that the payed dlc after a year is usually 75% off.
So by that year, most buy the payed dlc.
The games lasts years because it has over 30 maps.
100% lmao. I'd honestly just wait for a steam sale and buy 6 games for the price of MW2s BP
People don't have rationally about relative money to value time.
(fifa every year)
It is basic common sense.
bf4 only running 4/30 maps
Bf4 has no replay ability anymore
doesn't mean that player hosted servers will run it. because most of the time they don't.
Anyone recommend any ps5 games?
I only ever see siege, golmund, zavod, or locker on bf4
Hosted servers should be an option for Battlefield.
because player hosted servers tend to wanna maximize the amount of people on them to justify the cost of running them, which generally requires running maps that everyone has.
“GOLMUD RAILWAY ULTRA REALISM HARCORE 10000000000% DAMAGE NO SNIPERS AUTO RIFLES OR FUN ALLOWED”
The Kira bridge of spirits game is pretty good
Anything
Kena*
if you're into that kinda thing
Yes I can get that for fre
You either get free dlc for nothing and get 4 maps in that year or more, or get payed dlc for $40 to $50 and it becomes 75 percent off after a year, and you get 16 maps for $ 12.50-15 dollar. A dollar a map.................
Horizon forbidden west is fun, could also try out like Final fantasy 15
Played that game 💪
I'll take the free maps please
Kena is a very good game, i platinumed that one
If battlefield 1 didn't have payed dlc it wouldnt be as popular as it still is.
It has the maps which gives it longevity
tf you mean? Most people play the base game maps in bf1, and then the free dlc maps
even if it was released almost 7 yeears ago
It’s only popular on PS and PC, Xbox had no active servers
People are cheap and don't understand money.
it gets a bit harder to justify this when you consider that years after launch, you'll be hard pressed to find servers actively and consistently running the DLC content you paid for, if it's even possible at all.
And I’m not even sure if it’s popular on those platforms
for all your talk of longetivity, the DLC's in BF games that have it certainly don't last long.
naval and russian dlc are never played. apocalypse only ever has 2/4 of the maps in rotation, then all the base game maps plus the poppy field one
You can occasionally find games on the weekends
to be fair Apocalypse only has 2 actual maps, the other two are like Air Assault, i think?
Have you played it?
40 hours in it
Like only reason I have all the BF1 and 4 maps is cause of gamepass
I have them because EA literally gave away the BF4 and BF1 DLC with On The House years ago.
If you love Battlefield I think you could justify $40 to $50 dollars to play a game if it gives you a couple hundred hours of playability. I don't want people complaining if they can't afford a measureable $50 and limit my ability in the free market to lesser because the free dlc only gives 1 map per season. If you love the game you will pay more to get more of the game.
more like 3 maps 2 air
I don't even have the DLC on my xbox, of which I played the most. I grabbed bf1 on pc for like 6$ on sale almost 8 years later and can only play like 4 of the maps that the servers run
I like Battlefield when it's good, unfortunately, It hasn't been good since Hardline.
That's not really hhow it works
I'd rather pay for a game, play the game, get free updates, and keep playing the game like that
So, no. I can't justify $40-$50 on DLC for a game I don't like.
not have to pay a weeks worth of groceries for some DLC that is not gonna be played in a year
Honestly the only DLC worth getting is singleplayer DLC. Cause then it's up to you and you only to populate that shit lmao
"if they can't afford a measureable $50 and limit my ability in the free market" Limit your ability in the free market to do what exactly.
battlefield campaigns are so f***ing good, i need moooore
Hell, if 2042 got paid singleplayer DLC with like an 8 hour story for 50$ I'd buy it, cause I can play that oiver and over again
tfw all the old Guitar Hero/Rock Band/DJ Hero DLC is delisted and you literally can't legitimately obtain them anymore
The problem is the people who can't afford that extra $50 for dlc, if they can't afford it you don't get it, my point is people have complained so hard about payed dlc that the last two games have ha none and offered a free service of maybe a map per season to 2 maps for Japan on bf 5. My point is I don't want to be limited in a free market not to be able to get the option to buy payed dlc. It doesn't make sense to agree to the ranted wanting only free dlc. They could literally give you a free dlc like they have for 2042 and allow people like me in said free market of capitalisms play more maps buy paying more. If you like a game you will pay more if reasonable.

Yeah but tbh I don’t think many people would care if you pirated those
but what if it's not reasonable.
is this a "i have more money than you" thing
😉
No it is the fact that I should get an option if I want payed dlc.
The question is, would you rather spend 60$ on a brand new game that has free dlc coming. Or would you spend 110$ on a games ultimate edition which gives you DLC you don't even know will be good, and that people may or may not play
Like I played China rising maps once in bf4 in the last 4 years
i would rather spend 60 + dlc after it drops
Literally the only DLC map in bf4 I have played a ton is metro, cause usually it's operation locker and metro servers
bring back paid dlc
so 110$ over the course of a year?
I would rather not have paid DLC
metro rush were the days man
depending on what the dlc is
the industry has moved on from paid multiplayer map packs
They haven't done payed dlc in fear that maybe the amount of consumers that pay for that payed dlc went down. Battlefield 1 had payed dlc because at the time they had a premium pass service before ait and payed dlc sold well enough to the new content they developed. There is a breaking point to new content cost to make it, but sadly the people who complained about wanting just free dlc has led to no more payed dlc.
Look at games like destiny for why you don’t want paid dlc
If you don’t have the newest dlc tough shit
the industry has also moved on from making good games so i don't see how that's a positive.
destiny not my kind of game. so it wouldnt have an effect to look at it
AND THEN THEY REMOVED THE STUFF YOU PAID FOR LMAO
Exactly you can’t even play it solo
so dumb
Well I mean it may not be but it’s a good example it splits the player base
If battlefield 2042 had payed dlc it would probably be 65 percent off at this point and give you 16 maps.


okay but would the maps be any good.
Yes
How do you know tho
would they be worth the price. could you prove that.
Wanna know a secret?
just because something costs money doesn't mean it's justified for it to be costing money. people sell bad things for money too, y'know.
Did you know most battlefield 2042 maps were a.i. generated by there dev kit engine.
cause..y'know, free market?
Like spearhead
How does that relate tho MW2 is doing the same thing
MW2 is also a bad game for different reasons.
Spearhead terrain was automatically generated from a.i. engine kits and artists worked on fixing any collision.
no wonder the maps are dogshit
just because there's demand in a free market doesn't also mean there's always a corresponding supply to fill it
aka cry about it lol
Yes only good thing about the game is dolphin diving and the graphics
i thought maybe the good map designers left the team thats why maps suck
I still think MW19 looks a bit better mostly because the quality of the weapon models is just a bit better also because those models are more authentic in general.
Yes
Looks less muddy too
I miss guaranteed content from paid dlc. There is literally zero reason to not do that.
Look, if it wasn't for 2042 having a rocky launch and having to rework the base maps, we would be have more than one map a season.
Still, we can view BFV and see that even in a free DLC world, they released more than 1 map per pack
When you set a price on something you must deliver.
Is it sad that most maps designed in Battlefield 2042 were a.i. generated, they created the tools when Battlefront 1 came out, and streamlined the processed to generated tesselated terrain.
Your funny cause MW2 exists
except for all the reasons that were just mentioned
-that guaranteed content being bad
-nobody buying the content in the first place
-nobody wanting to run the content on servers a year after the fact due to wanting to maximize potential players on your server
99% of terrain is autogenerated nowadays. that's why we can have more varied maps now instead of endless variations of City A and Metro C and Highway B
Fucked if I know.
I mean, with 2042, would you really have thought that they'd push out 16 maps post launch with also fixing the base game maps plus the bugs?
I mean half of MW2 is being made by AI
again, just because you put a price on something doesn't mean it can't be bad, something you pay money for can be just as bad as something that's free, cause, you know, free market.
Oh and don't forget you had to pay for the new weapons, which may or may not be P2W
It was great that i could play hardline when everyone dropped it and play the new dlcs.
The Naval Strike DLC cost money. It was bad.
Imagine the outcry if you had to pay for the RM68
"literally spending money to win"
May of been whatever but at least they delivered.
never is
The whole ideas of Battlefield 2042 was making it a precursor a pre-alpha/beta to the next game for 2024 with Frosbite 4 engine. They used the dev kits which are the processes to make manual creation of content auto generated by a.i, such as many of the maps, so lower cost and pay for the next game/engine R@D.
I don't really care for what dlc is the worst either. They had their good and their bad. Always happens.
me after opening a box sent to my house with a pipebomb in it:
Source: Trust me bro
BF4's DLC is mostly mid with quite a few bad maps. Lumphini Garden being a prime example of a map that shouldn't have been released, but it was anyway.
Source is because battlefield 5 didn't generated enough cash flow to play for all the R@D for the new enginr.
@patent path
ea is cheap
I mean, look at bfv and see that free dlc was good, with good maps, and enough to keep players interested. you had like 8 maps post launch I believe
Source for this?
Aka trust me bro
Then BF1 released like 4 free maps, bf4 released free variations of maps for the night operations
it's just that people didn't like BFV's gameplay so it got canned because of that
exactly
nobody even liked the night maps. they were the most pointless thing.
they can do it, jsut other instances made them not be able to continue with their original plan
Battlefield 2042 was an experimental development from what it was originally going to be, mostly due to poor sale of bf5.
But they were cool
eh

i don't agree.
Not cool to play just cool
i feel like it's a bit shit to have "Zavod But You Can't See"
That is also something I actually kinda like in the new MW games is the night modes
Those are actually kinda cool
Even tho the night vision is awful
Hell, look at WW3 actually. They release 2 maps per season, one for each mode. It's free, the game is free, the weapons are free
the onyl thing you pay for is the skins
yeah because they utilized a very complicated and sophisticated technique called "Giving The Players Night Vision"
Which DICE still hasn't managed to figure out.
What erks me is Frosbite 3 engine ever since 2015 during battlefront has had coded in engine time of day sky maps.
Id rather then give us more realistic night vision if it’s added to battlefield
Yoda my man, tf are you talking about
what is this tangent?
Crappy launch so people just write it off
also the weird seperate launcher like tarkov
to be fair that game also had like a $5,000,000 DLC pack that included staring in a WW3 themed movie, i think?
and someone actually bought that? For some reason?
I'm sorry?
I swear to god i remember hearing about something like that.
I mean dying light had a 750k bundle
it came to him in a dream
IT WAS CALLED THE PRESIDENT PACK
I DID NOT MAKE IT UP
Who bought it
it's unknown.
It was Trump, he's our president
Honestly, I'd pay to be put in a game
probably left unclear for privacy reasons.
Bro it was all from the dreams.
shut up you
Trump gave him a small loan of 5 million dollars. 
"The main selling point of the bundle is that it's limited to only one customer, making it extremely exclusive. The cost to pre-order the package was a much cheaper $1,000, although it doesn't look like anyone has admitted to making the purchase yet."
I can't wait to see Frosbite's version of nanite foilage in 2024. 
also sidenote
Honestly, WW3 is free DLC done right. Paid map packs are so ass
shame the game sucks ass tho
I mean honestly if bro wanted to drop 5 mil more power to them
WW3 aint that bad. ACtually kinda fun since the new season added reviving and all that fun stuff
I mean that's just like your opinion man
Freedom units
Tokyo maps are actual class
What? wolfenstein but bf?
We have discarded which is india, and then manifest which is I think singapore
I mean we have some in 2042
Can't use china due to their government hating anuyone who uses them'
eh, it would be better if the game scrapped that weight system and just sped up the gameplay overall. Because the gunplay is fine but the movement speed and general pace of the game sucks.
I miss jungle maps..........
Kaleidoscope is in South Korea
Weight system is to balance out like bringin stuff
Forgot about that
consider this: there are better ways to balance this without making the game slow.
They need to add waifu skins to vehicles. It's realistic. Just look at all these anime fans that put stickers on their cars of waifu and anime. It's the future
what
no
They actually have one
You seen the waifu jets in ukraine?
Basically yeah
Nah man please tell me more
Just a ton of planes and tanks and shit have like painted anime chicks and other stuff on them
missiles too
cringe
Sick dude. I mean our boys used to have pinup girls, so I guess waifus are the new thing
God I love modernization
Exactly what I was about to say
Bro if I dare see any anime of vehicles or key chains in a Battlefield, I will feel like as if Japan won the war. 💀
Gotta remember what your fighting for
yeah but honestly it had the best chance of being something when it was poised to be a better Battlefield game. I know they never directly stated that it was competing against Battlefield, but I feel like it's fairly clear that they were at least trying to do that, considering it was originally announced and came out during BFV's lifetime. And then it failed because it's not an arcade shooter, and tactical shooters are a niche.
I mean... we have the dozer mav

just be glad the anime skins in bf aint bright pink like in cod
It's like COD and BF mixed, then through in the insurgancy sandstorm gunplay
Fighting for them waifu pillows back home.
Guys wake up JAPAN WON THE WAR! Everything has been a dream! 
Bring our boys home
Every soldier gets a body pillow, place them in the fields as decoy soldiers!
The only CoD aspects of this are the fact that tactical sprinting and sliding exist, and even then it's a stretch to say that these things alone justify the comparison. as for BF, they literally just recently added reviving. The gunplay is about the only good thing WW3 has, and it would be fine if the rest of the game wasn't so slow.
I think it has some pinkn to it
Not on my watch, I am the hunter in this game and when I see players wearing anime skins that's when the god killer shows up and start to hunt them down like animals
There are literally kill streaks tf you mean
P2W Bunny Skin is real and it is COMING FOR YOU
...Somehow i managed to forget that, i'm stupid. Sorry.
I fucking love the goofy shit cause it annoys everyone
u guys seen the recent weed outfit in cod?
"Is that seriously a bunny in my super realistic gun shooter game?!?!?"
I appreciate goofy shit in games when the game is good.
But when the game is not good, it just strikes me as "what the fuck are you doing"
Same here, My toxic trait is that I enjoy when people get trigerred.
mw2 skins are so dogshit frfr
Like it has the cod movement and kill streaks. THen it has BF style vehicles and map size and player count. then you have insurgency style gunplay and health pool
Messi skin
The pink skins in R6S are honestly the best
Messi sounds like he is lobotomized in mw2 jesus
I feel like acting like WW3 movement is similar to CoD is very much giving the wrong impression, I feel like movement was in any way similar to CoD in terms of speed and pacing then we wouldn't even be having this conversation.
Is it not fast? I feel I may be using a different build to you
Guys 2042 was no game, wake up we are in 2042, WAKE UP!!! 
Honestly though, if all games had xdefiant movement I'd be happy
it's not fast, and that speed changes depending on the gun you're carrying because they felt the need to slow down the game for no good reason.
I usually just run an AR with light armour so I got the speed
Or a sniper
Should guns feel lighter of heavier in the next modern battlefield game?
tf you mean lighter? they're already light in 2042
like in game they weight is hella low
I would call battlefield 4 lighter.
want to feel lighter? increase your fov
Battlefield 1 guns were pretty heavy af.
I feel BF7 or whatever it'll be needs the 2042 movement without the extended stuff like mackay or sundance, and then just add more feel to the guns
I liked that it.
then you win at game
The engineers better be just fixing animations improving them/redoing and physics.
Well isn't 2042 technically 6?
to be fair, BF1 had visual recoil and slow movement overall, which probably contributed to that. Those two things also contribute to why BF1 sucks to play.
Yeah
BF6 is BF 2042?... uh nope
but 2042 canonically comes after BF4
They need to fix bullet collision on player bodies, there is still a stutter in game with bullet hit collision which freezes.

and references the events of BF3 story
Lets wait the next modern battlefield and wait for the announcement if the next battlefield will be called BF6
Cause sundance was an orphan thanks to the paris nuke
does it matter what it's called? bf3 is not even the third mainstream bf
In battlefield 1 and 5 I could get hit and I would get a light push back on the body by being able to run through bullet physics on the body, 2042 you freeze and get stuttered.

Guys I talked to the EA CEO he knows best like me, a Battlefield Marvel mashup!!! 
I wish you would stop talking.
if COD can have like 900000 partnerships and fortnite can have literally everything, why can't BF
various reasons. what would they partner up with? fucking Raytheon?
Hell, partner with DC or like another game series like deadspace
imagine a doom partner ship that let's you run the super shotgun in replacement of a double barrel for the skin
sexy
BF1, noted famously historically accurate game for having both the Hellriegel and SMG 08 in common use despite those guns barely existing in real life, nevermind actually seeing battle
My fav historical game is BF4
I remember the day that china went to war with the US
it was crazy
Also, the 1903 Experimental features a device that was literally made but was never used because the war ended before it was supposed to be used
Honestly, with the next game I'd love to have us play as some form of cybernetic soldier. Like you play as a robot. Like elysium or chappie style of robot. This way you can have like limbs and shit fly everywhere and have a ton of super weapons that are heavy but don't feel it thanks to robot
Plus, you can make robot skins and change the way they look much easier than on a person
No no no, Battlefield Terminator WAR!
You can do early war with guns and then, plasma.
gundam evolution
This but without the super jumps
Battlefield 2242
Battlefield 2242 yes in space on other planets. 
like it's literally just normal stuff but you can punch through walls and shit. Just full chaos
Elysium is a cracked out film tbh
considering in 2142 you are fighting for scraps of fuel and food, by 2242 everyone on earth would be dead
maybe, maybe not
I've honestly seen people say BF1 was an accurate depiction of WW1 and it makes me laugh every time
Battlefield WALLE, your job as a soldier is too clean up the pollution. Fight for world war 4. 
Bro just imagine fighting on mars
it's a very immersive game, it can trick people into thinking the things in it are historically accurate
Mars exo dome
venus space station
bf1 is just a great game
yes
shut off entire parts of maps with explosives to the glass
A great game if you're looking at it and not actually trying to play it. As soon as you start trying to actually play the game, it becomes not fun very fast.
Seriously though. Robot warfare with like hella heavy guns and shit, then on maps that are just completely crazy. Plus, it'll make you feel like a random mf in the middle of a war
Mark my words!!!Star Wars Battlefront 2 offered the best maps ever designed by dice, a fucking work of art!

yeah gameplay is a hit or miss depending on preference, but the graphic and style were so great.
What the fuck happened that lead to the massive downgrade in bf5?
bf5 is so shit to look at
aanyone want to join us for shutdown
Just not the big robots
DICE higher ups deciding to change the gameplay and make it bad
As much as it pains me to agree, I have to. I boot it up, get blown up by an arty truck out of bounds, and remember why I don't really care much for it lol.
Like pathfinder size
Battlefront 2 maps for the win, Battlefront 2 maps design is like comparing Mozart, to a rat that shat on a canvas which is 2042.

I wouldn't bet on it in the year 2242 everyone is dead
I enjoyed bf5 at release, the gameplay was fine, but they just kept updating it to make it worse
and the graphic is so bad
everything is floaty and janky
why do people praise bf5 for its animations when they are broken ALL THE TIME
Floating slide 🤭
Attrition and animations for everything were literally the worst ideas that DICE have ever had for Battlefield. They even knew it, that shit was rejected by QA because they were like "This shit sucks."
Battlefront 3 where are you my beloved. 
camouflage
they promised multiple sub-classes for bf5, then scrapped it AFTER release, it's insane
I don't get it
I don't really remember bf5 animations being broken asides from the hand interacting with the bipod and that.
I bet one day battlefield will go to futuristic space and planets, one because they will run out of ideas and second they don't have to pay for star wars licensing.
when you do multiple things at once it just looks wrong, like sliding/running and reloading etc
ah man that bipod, I still remember that frustration lol
I do know that the animations were made less intrusive as it went on. That or I just got used to it and played around it.
Oh yeah how in the slide reload your hands don't interact with the gun.
So it just floats.
Truth be told it got the reload done so I never minded it too much.
Launch bf5 bipod ugghhh.
Then it was made good!
BREN GUN.
Next Battlefield is Battlefield 942
on a slightly different note what's with bf 2042 and making assault rifles compete so heavily with smg's
Also I know what you're on about as well with Archetypes, I was pissed that they were removed.
Battlefield 1942 BC
that is typical of sliding animations and doing multiple actions at once, i can't imagine the animators really wanted to even try making specific animations for doing multiple actions at once, and trying to limit the amount of actions a player could do to avoid this "issue", would only make gameplay even worse than it already was. The proof of this is with BF1.
Yeah I dunno wilderness.
yeah, it pissed me off so much
I could do the same on bf5 as I could on 1.
No, 942, this is year
I love smg's but man they feel so bad compared to the rifles
PP29 is good
RPT is just better though
It's an overpowered piece of shit gun.
that's because they're not supposed to reward accuracy over other weapon types, DICE even said so.
:>
I'm just gonna stick to BF 2242 and BF 2025 a prequel from 2042
anything within 150m lmao
RM277 with the 710 RPM, 40M 4HK with its 5HK range staying until 150 metres with standard.
Who cares if short barrel reduces your velocity, Just lead.
Quality balancing here at DICE...is it Stockholm or Sweden.
RPL is cool at least. But I don't really care for it.
i think it's Sweden.
When will patchnotes drop today?Kinda want to know if there is sth else next week besides discarded rework.
I'd rather not mock who balanced it. It's a cool gun though something tells me they really had to make people get into the pass this time.
implying the patch notes would even have all the changes
yeah well no

right
They usually drop at 0:30 / 1:30 AM for me.
there's a new patch?
New patch for more fixes.
maybe?
In like 8 hours or something like that
tuesday. Map rework and sth else I guess besides fixes
oh ok
Hope there'll be balance changes.
because you know, why write down all the things you change. just write down some of them and make the playerbase figure the rest out.
I want a patch where I can pick the map I want to play..... but we all know they can't come up with such a sytsem because they say it will raise load in times for player base

xDefiant is pretty cool, current playtest is a bit scuffed tho so i'm not actively playing it right now.
literally, use portal server browser, you can pick the maps you want to play
it's literally a server browser
well the beta's going on for a couple more days
it's definitely a video game
lol
5v5/6v6 cod clone hero shooters getting churned out on an assembly line
it does seem at least to be competently made, so
yes. We haven’t gotten anything major balance wise yet this season…
it has that.
hyena's or w/e its called after that
That's Sega's thing innit
I need to be frozen until November 2024.
Nerf the god damn condor, super hind and MAV so they are actual transport vehicles
Like only give them 7.62mm miniguns
some of those hind crews are nuts
every time i pop into ex. a nategibson stream he's shooting at someone who doesn't take damage so i don't know about that one
but no 30/40/50mm
they have to figure out how to do the bare minimum in this respect, that takes time
That is stupidly overpowered
nade launchers and people firing rpg's
yeah. Or if they don’t remove the 40/50 mm they should reduce armor of the hind
muh mav
Honestly the only thing the MAV doesn't need is the mortar pod
like i said current beta is scuffed. devs already know about that, but weren't able to put the fix in the closed beta build.
yeah. And maybe the automatic cannon?
Just let the heavy machine gun stay
Maybe, i don't see much use out of the auto cannon
i'll believe it when i see it because that was dice's excuse for 2042 too
"old build" "ahead of schedule" etc
that is fair.
I get most kills with that cannon in a mav😂
I mean, I'm playing it rn and it's perfectly fine?
a lil bit of desync issues but no major bugs
I personally enjoyed my time with the beta but yeah, it is a bit scuffed and it remains to be seen if the issues will actually be fixed. I do hope they are.
All that's wrong with the game is network and balance stuff
and that can all be fixed by the open beta
or even by the end of the closed beta in a week
I swear I head it was gonna be extended due to the issues
heard*
i hate to be the one to tell ya, but those are core gameplay issues
I've not seen any confirmation of that.
maybe they're gonna announce that in the next couple days, but I donno.
Well the only balance issues are like the healing class but it's not as bad as like 2042. the network is fine for some and bad for others. I just get shot around corners a lil
but they're all extremely easy and fixable things to change. especially with how quick they update shit
eh, that's not the only balancing issue
they/them?
What's the other stuff?
[opinion redacted]
The ACR is by and large the best AR/gun in the game-
yes. what about it.
okay. back to what i was saying.
i'm only noticing the 120 health players being annoying to verse
and yeah the acr is cracked I will agree
nothing the sniper can't stop though
the magnum needs a buff though
Also double barrel being hella fucked, shotguns have 0 range outside of that gun
better learn how to be nice to people if you want to be a "content creator"
ACR is by and large the best gun in the game, the M44's position in the sniper rifles is questionable cause it does less damage than the TAC-50 but also has a slower reload and no attachments to help with this, the Cleaners having incindiary rounds as a passive is personally not a great decision, plus one of the faster mag attachments is bugged so that the reload speed is WAY faster than intended.
Fair enough. The incendiary bullets are a bit fucked. ACR just needs a damage nerf to basically be in line with the other ARs, or a mag count nerf. the M44 does need a slight buff to it's rpm and reload to make it actually competitive.
However, I think the actual basis of the game is extremely solid. Like the gunplay, movement, art style, map design, and the factions
That alone tells me everything I need to know, you know. The fact that you felt the need to mention the pronouns and then post this just makes that loud and clear, my guy.
being shot around corners is annoying and always dying to the ACR is also annoying, but it's fun when those don't happen
DICE GIB PATCH NOTES >(
Plus, I feel like extended mags really get shafted in this game, there's not much reason to run them.
not till 1am man
FUCK
I literally run everything that quickens ADS and movement speed
works like a charm
yeah mobility builds seem to be very effective.
I love it. it's just fun that way
you lose out on accuracy and recoil though
so anything further than like 10m is hard (not good for like the zone capture modes or push modes)
I feel pistols need a slight buff though. No point running anything other than the deagle or cz
i feel like the recoil debuffs could be worked around, especially if you're already decent at controlling recoil anyway.
yeah, it'
it's not bad at all
but it's more like the accuracy and also the like flinch that fucks you
so if you're getting shot, your aim is everywhere
but you move fast so others miss you more
yeah
It's a good balance imo
LMGs just suck, as do marksmen rifles and most smgs
so basically 2042
Am40 is better
true, that smaller shell/body
Marksman Rifles are cracked actually, they 2 shot. you use those with the AOE healing thing, you're a menace if you can aim.
M5A3 is best AR in the game IMO


You used it? it's actually cracked out
like nothing beats it it's amazing
Unlock it trust me
good
pay him no mind. he has a very weird obsession with ryan gosling used to have all kind of edits of him kind of thing
I see. I just want him to know that I know.
i wish some of the vault weapons had new components tho
maybe it’s my bad eyesight, but the sights for the weapons fuck me over a lot
It's the most balanced alongside the AK.
But I wouldn't be against calling it one of the best no.
I'd use it but I've already gotten it to 10K.
I'm on 12K+ Kills with it
the rm68 being a better gun than the m5a3 is hilarious considering the m5 beat out the rm68 irl for adoption
I'm still expecting RM68 to be nerfed
the rm68 is o.p
sig paying their way into adoption doesn't make it the better gun
cope + seethe
real mature response
youre god damn right
The RM68 is fine the way it is
lol
dropping it a damage tier would be fine i guess, the integral suppressor is the main gimmick
sucks because muh 6.8 but it has too many other upsides to be stepping on the scar's toes
lol
bring other weapons to the rm68 level
m416 for example is hot garbage
it should preform better then the rm68 currently is
no thats cancer and bad players love explosives
portal guns all suck compared to 2042 guns because the portal guns were given actual spread and recoil values
rm68 is close to cancer aswell
not really
I really hope one of the "massive changes" they're planning on doing to EOR includes Top Squad screen.
Bullpups by nature have relaly long barrels so.. they should have that accuracy. wish that only translated to other items they call guns in this game
They're releasing patch notes today, hoping for a miracle.
they need a squad management system
guns are already way too accurate
currently the rm68 (4 shot gun) is a scar (4 shot gun) that also: fires faster, gets short barrel, gets grip attachments, has integral suppressor
i dont want to play with or have bots spawn on me
rm68 NEEDS to be reigned in somehow
thats just stupid idea lol
stupid like nerfing the k30 into nothing?
that gun is irrelevant anyway
the same people like you who cried destroyed that gun
Sounds like most of you have skills issues with the RM68, like you don't know how to use it even it's that strong
every 2042 AR beams out to 100m, they don't need to be better
i feel like u want cod guns in this game since u cant play with old bf like guns
well op cod guns, since they are similiar to cod guns already
I like when we're arguing
lmao im actually really skilled in this game i just dont cry nerf everytime a gun kills me
??
anyone want to join our squad for 2042
Skill issue for not knowing how to use the guns in BF 2042
Tell me about it, you believe in nerfing everything and i dont
If it weren't for the short suppressor I literally wouldn't have many issues with it.
crazy thought process i know
so instead of balancing overly good weapons u want to make them even better
in this case balancing is nerfing
i dont think i said anything about buffing the rm68
i said bring other weapons in line with it
exactly
so how would that be good idea
bf3 did it fine
bf3 had way less accurate weapons
bf3 guns had SPREAD and RECOIL
^^
maybe my nostalgia goggles are glued to my eyes but the m16a3 in that feels FAR superior to this one
even in bf3 i could beam people with it at 100M
i think the rm68 is stupid broke, and they should buff tanks
you should be able to do that in 2042 then aswell if its same weapon
...To be honest I feel like you're lying. You're not beaming anyone with an AR in any BF game with actual spread at 100 meters. Not consistently.
I have like 300-400 stars to prove what im saying
not single star proves that u can beam that far tho
if u talking about weapon stars or whatever
umm given the amount of time and experience i have with it i think yes it does
oh wow, you got a lot of kills with a gun, that certainly proves that you're doing this very specific action that the game is balanced around preventing in any consistency.
Okay i guess
by that nature we should just believe that the rm68 is stupidly overpowered
The reason spread exists was to prevent that exact thing from happening. If you wanted to hit people out to that distance with an AR, you're not holding M1, you had to burst and control both the recoil as well as the spread.
because you said so
I never said so.
Have any of you ever fired a real rifle before?
Have you?
do you know how accurate they are??
Have you?
the rm68 is overpowered because it's a statistically better scar lmfao
battledfield for the most part gets it wrong lmao
Have you?
you dont beam with irl weapons either like u do in game lol
genius if i asked the question id assume so
Not that that's even relevant when we're discussing video game balance
in military we didnt even shoot full auto cuz its not accurate
LMAO
It's not entirely unreasonable that you could just be asking that to act like you have some kind of point in this scenario.
You can literally full auto most platforms firing 5.56 and be pin point accurate
bigger bullet bigger rifle not made to counter natural recoil like 5.56 rilfes
Why do I feel like you've never shot a full auto rifle before.
ok buddy
bf 2042 expert and a real life john rambo
anything else i need to add to your resume?
you're the one talking about being pin point accurate with 5.56 in full auto, not me.
And youre the one voicing up like im wrong
because i am fairly sure that you are.
I think you don't know what you're talking about.
All this talk i bet you stay at the bottom of the scoreboard trying to educate better players on how to play
sick fanfiction, can't wait to read more of it.
lol must be right
sure if that's what you wanna believe
i could say the same about you boss
it's literally not my problem, you're just making up a guy with my name in your head.
sure i am. "making it all up" lmao
or they could stop talking. that is also an option.
i mean you literally are. you're just assuming things and acting like they're somehow based on fact.
loooooooool

👍
Year 2 rumor is real ?
8 Season wow that's a lot
After I T1 it plz 🙂
s5 was the only officially confirmed y2 season and that was a while ago now
Just wish they can give us more maps and fix the input.
at this point, they've not fixed the input, I don't think they're going to.
like, I think they've officially waited out the problem, it's clearly not a high priority, and most people who care are tired of asking.
Dice , I think there are too many tricks in air vehicles....
Input is tied to sooo many systems. Any messing with most likely create a ripple effect of issues were you can't catch everything within an acceptable deadline and that would make people go "another bad fix by DICE" - so I kinda get it, if they just think it's good enough about now.
Input in a FPS just need to be nailed down for release tbh.
it should've been, and the fact that it wasn't should've been focused on a lot more than it was.
Considering that they used an under developed variant of the engine I'm not surprised it's broken.
And now you've got people who insist that it's not broken.
It's a net negative for everyone.
-IlOvO-ure_l1I is cheating aimbot all headshots 😡 https://imgur.com/a/2KgsOoJ
I'm sorry KeeC this isn't the place to report it.
You can use twitter and try tagging some active devs and see if you can get some attention.
Yeah I know. It doesn't work.
Is your anti cheat program not working properly?
i imagine it's working, it's just not a foolproof solution.
Have you seen apex
Not really
Season 16
wow
But isn't it nature for free2play game
They can cook moneys out of cosmetic
been out since 2019 too
same
I love sniping vehicle with anti material rifle and sometime i do get a part disabled ribbon
But i don't know what part is it
lol
I love how he don't know what to do when facing shield
he took a leap of faith
Shield reduces enemy intelligence by 1
Before you can melee you got the shield in your face
reported 
Dang I was hoping some patch notes would come out during my break
I’m guessing we will be seeing those at 4 then
Is there a hidden logic behind just chiling next to a point instead of being on it when you're defending in breakthrough? Cause for some reason most games the point is lost with 10ish people just sitting right there next to it 
are any of the lmgs good besides the avancys
interesting...
how is the new one I don't know what it's called, rpk?
Interesting...
I'm kinda liking the avancys but then again kinda not...
so I'm not sure
what? on a friday? no way
I was expecting it on home screen
SMG rush gamemode and amped breakthrough
What
Oh man that was a good match
Nailed the defence to the point that zapping one objective fully was enough to win after
And I got three disarms and one arm
That one being the one that won
Went to town in combat too. PBX is actually pretty good
lmfao
But man that SPH spam is real
They absolutely NEED to change the engagement distance. I shouldn’t be able to kill a sniper with my AR 200+ meters away. This would be impossible in BF4
Considering what the maps are catered around it'll be annoying.
I just want to mid-range snipe but I always get beat to shit by the RM68 and the like.
No wonder all the snipers hang out over a kilometre away
I can understand a scar and rm being good within 80 metres provided you use the correct ammo type but 100 to 120 m shots is dumb.
Theoretically the GVT is what I’m after but its round velocity and accuracy are both a mess
This might be controversial but maybe DICE needs to add more recoil on weapons to prevent anyone from engaging SMG for long distances. Hell, even the recoil reduction attachments like compensators are useless because the game has virtually no recoil.
I’ve been saying that for years
Like I’m not exactly wired into the game like Way is but I can easily control the recoil
I need more oomph.
Yeah lol
Also if you leave a game just before you lose, it doesn’t count towards your win/loss ratio
I’ve been taking advantage of that, my W/L ratio is like .8
I want M24 tho
- Cal

The GOL is too slow for my preferred tempo (and marksmanship) but anything faster has terrible round velocity
When you're in line with the snipers the GOL generally has decent drop and velocity.
Though I think I might be noticing that more simply because I’m being forced to hang back far just to survive
In V I can just pull the Arisaka and do anything
200m+ shots aren't difficult when the hitreg works.
Super awkward iron sights though.
What's tonight's fnb?
Fun iron sights you mean
Tell me what's on fnb?
No idea.
If there's a double exp on fnb, I'm in just for the bp.
Edd boy.
I'm at rank 79
I'm lvl 159 but it's not a competition
On battle pass for your information.
Ok I'm rank like 65 on BP
You beat me
But once again it's not a competition
I know.
Just wanted to finish this without going crazy. Just need to finish whatever those weekly missions are available through out this mounth.
you sure about that as i'm Rank 100
In BP ? In BP RIGHT ?
You Did some weekly missions?
Yup
Now let's see Paul Allen's BP level
Paul Allen's reached lvl 150 of the BP which doesn't even exist, everyone is impressed and Bateman got a stroke
now just trying to get the S4 tier 1 badge
And now Can BF yalla with the patch notes lol
But still lol
There's a patch note to come ? 
also why is EA and Dice below Mods and Admins when they own the game lol
also from another BF post
Join us on Tuesday @ 4 PM UTC for live gameplay of Update 4.2 in our latest Dev Corner stream
Dice's communication is pretty bad those last weeks, I hope they're announcing something big in next game dev's update
https://twitter.com/BFBulletin/status/1649111606155005954?cxt=HHwWhMC-_ZaR6eItAAAA
It's worth mentioning that Update 4.2.0 also includes some "really cool changes" to the End of Round experience. Some were included in Update 4.1.0 and there's more to come according to DICE producer Alexia Christofi. Via #InsideBattlefield EP 06.
Mmmhhh thanks, really good, impressive
BF2042 end of game voice lines back?
I see it says "Limited Time" on Exodus Conquest... does anyone know when Exodus will exit the BF2042 scene? I am hoping it is here to stay as the 64v64 is a bit much for my setup.
It goes on and off.
the good playlists get taken out and put back in every other week
another question, anyone got any idea why I'm having such a hard time getting gsync to work on battlefield? I can only get it in windowed mode...
does anyone have a pic of the Nordvik logo?
Last night, I got a kill with a concussion grenade. Has anyone else done that as well? How does that even happen?
Yeah I guess. I blindly threw into smoke so I didn't see
weapon used gets the credit if you set off explosives
Do we know when we're getting the patch notes?
That makes more sense thx
Yes, very easily
i would ask them to pay more attention to the game part of the game, but then we get silly shit like USA turned on for everyone
Patch notes when ?
Cuz this is a community server
Already posted earlier like 10-15 mins ago
2-1 hour
I hope this patchnote gives some insights about future of the franchise
Me ?
not being aggressive or anything btw just curious lol
i meant this
So the question was for me lol ?
Ha then I was hoping they would tell about design changes for next maps to release and maybe some infos about next game
Well BF2042 got better and still improves but content still feels like it's too low
Hii
content is still content even if its small
The consensus from gossip is that BF2042 is getting another year of support and seasons.
What ? I just said there wasn't enough content I didn't say it wasn't content lmao
also wondering, free tier battlepass gives 300 boins?
You know what I think I Get SMGs now
and season changes every 3 months?
Yeah it's too long tbh
how long does it take you to get 100?
not long
And yeah I think so, someone who bought BP from year 1 and got all Boins will be able to buy all next BP for free
I got to 100 within 4 weeks
Yeah but you're tryharder 
took me 6 weeks I think
It's week 7 and I'm only BP 65
skill issue get better
ive played for like 16hrs, 46 so far
Lmao f you
i was done in week 5?
Good for new player
It’s exclusive to assault as a gadget
Because that class totally needed more survivability.
ahhhh
whats the best way of finding a squad to play with lads ?
i asked once during the game and people were saying its pay to win
laughs in zain lol
No, it's pay to look cool.
Nah pay to look Drippy
That's what I meant roundaboutly
Tell 'em games PayToDrip
The led skin single sight is so minimal it dosent even matter
Need for speed Unbound has ingame money which you can buy clothes or cars by winning races
I don't understand how EA and activision swapped places with p2w skins
Has there been another rose skin incident?
A wha
the cod warzone dark af skin
pay to UAV
yeah something like that
Mmm not really
I'd say the most camo skins are literal camo coloured skins and foliage
And the foliage skins are pretty visible
It's not a whole suit like bfv's one
Casper
No double XP this weekend?
Eid Mubarak
Explains nothing
Thermal scope finds them everytime
I've never found Uniform Soldier Aiming to help at all, in fact whenever I've had it turned on its always been a hindrance
Eid Mubarak that's all
Does playing vs ai in coop unlock shit
yup
unlocks everything you can get weapons vehicles etc
except its mastery limited
and BP
Where is patch notes
fucking all cheating to Battlefield 2042
Huh
do we get a patch note today?
So are the patch notes being revealed during this new dev talk?
If so, it’s rather ceremonious for an update
Fucking 3 hacker on battlefield 2042 rush xl
https://i.imgur.com/TXyjTln.png
I do but I dont want to tell you, bye
lel
It's the chips
Stop.
!!r4
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Notes when?
Notes were lost...
Now that was a game


How many keyboards/controllers are broken in enemy team now..?
hopefully all of them

Dev update yet ?
dang good game
Well the stream should be live now but I’m not seeing anything
Oh wait never mind that’s set for Tuesday
Who knows then :/
Ima keep my eye out
Werent update 4.2 patch notes meant to release today though?
Yes
Patch notes wasn't planned for today ?
where is my return to karkand DLC
Back to Karkand is a massive themed expansion pack. It features four of the most loved Battlefield maps ever, boldly reimagined with the power of the Frostbite 2 engine. It also gives you new weapons, vehicles, dog tags, and persistence in the form of all-nes "assignments" to carry out on the battlefield.
finally
!!when will the patchnotes arrive?
Soon™
dun dun dun, dun dun dun
Patch Notes planned for today from what I see

Release date
12/12/2011
Who knows

Probs delayed...I doubt they would have announced it like that if they werent already complete
GJ, I'm proud of you.
A bit late to the trend id say
return to karkand came out a year before i joined the military
it's been 13 years since then jfc
Why the fuck is this game always mistaking discord stream as a cheat bro XD anti cheat its a fucking discord share screen
literally never had that happen

I crave the patch’s notes carb
Did they re-re-buff lis yet
Maybe it just fits you better than those other crappy guns
yeah but it doesn't have cool skins or a supressor
And?
the LCMG does
Black is all that is necessary
i agree but at least a suppressor
Maybe it cant be
people rarely use em i don't see why not
They reduce velocity and damage usually
Some guns are hard so suppress especially automatics due to being pressure operated. So the suppressor needs to both not add too much backpressure which interferes with operation, but also reduce the velocity of the gasses and cut noise
600 meter range and improved maneuverability was fun
for Lis players. for everyone else? 
Was wondering if they fixed the turn rate again cause it was ass last i checked
Its ass on controller

Like they went to tthe 475m range but the turn rate is so garbage its effectively shorter range than originally
Between that and everyone snd their dog has a sentry next to em
you can add attachments to guns that change caliber and fire rate on the spot
that's not a good excuse for guns not having attachments




