battlefield-2042

[carmine rover]

is so fun

[sour meadow]

i feel like other ones have better perks n shit

[solid imp]

the scatter is great in cq, throwing through windows, doors, etc

[sour meadow]

haven't played sundance in a long time

[solid imp]

esp if it's just off the edges of a bottleneck and less likely to encounter a trophy

[sour meadow]

i feel like zain's airburst is better at doing this

[solid imp]

by far sundance took me the longest to t1.. such a grind but it wasn't UN-enjoyable

[glacial quarry]

i die a lot more to the scatter initial explosion than the scatter nades

usually when im already low and one lands near me

[sour meadow]

zain's airburst is so satisfying

[solid imp]

it truly is

[sour meadow]

way more range

[fiery shoal]

new game mode is pretty good, but many are people bad

[sour meadow]

yea i can't fuck with it

i want to

but no friends who play bf. and i tried playing with randoms

but it made me want to cry

[solid imp]

I really hope they keep it... there's a bit of learning curve but I really feel it just needs to settle into the standard set of modes and people will figure it out

and it will get even more fun

[glacial quarry]

MMR should be a thing only for shutdown

[fiery shoal]

ive only played like 5 matches, but almost every one of them i almost have more kills than all my teammates combined...

and its not a kill based game, but damn

[sour meadow]

MMR?

[fiery shoal]

match making rating

sbmm

[solid imp]

Keep MMR out of BF please 🙂

and ELO and all of it

[sour meadow]

ELO?

[solid imp]

unless they want to go all in on ranked type play then fine

would rather nothing or everything

[sour meadow]

the band?

[glacial quarry]

to be fair MMR is good for BF but not for matchmaking, more for team balancing

[hybrid totem]

I recently witnessed allchat being used to collaborate between the jets and helis of both teams... Confirming they would leave each other alone so they could kill infantry better.

Allchat was a mistake

[glacial quarry]

so you still match with anybody

but the team is split according to total ELO of both teams

instead of being completely random

[sick eagle]

thats stupid

[glacial quarry]

so you get more balanced games

[sour meadow]

*aircrafts were a mistake

[copper ice]

no mmr for an 8v8 mode is kind of silly

[solid imp]

I don't know it well enough to explain but ELO iirc is like a skill-based verdict for a player whereas MMR is more about gaining/losing points based on the rating of your opponents if you win or lose

[copper ice]

this is literally the most effective way to play the game

its bfv all over again

[fiery shoal]

people complained about sbmm in cod because they dont know any better

[sour meadow]

why can DICE never get aircraft right

[copper ice]

air trucies so you bomb the shit out of the ants

[sour meadow]

it's never balanced

[hybrid totem]

look man I'm a vehicle main and that is subverting the intended flow of the game

[fiery shoal]

no sbmm for small game modes sucks

[glacial quarry]

there should be SBMM in bf2042 but hidden and only used to autobalance teams

[solid imp]

sbmm based on mmr is really really hard to do well in small squad settings

[fiery shoal]

and this is coming from someone that would most likely stomp 90% of lobbies

[glacial quarry]

so you don't have random team allocation which can result in a lot of strong players on one side and none on the other

[copper ice]

when infantry cannot effectively deal with vehicles by themselves, vehicle mains will inevitably trucie so they stomp all match

[hybrid totem]

Chicken, egg

[sour meadow]

wtf is trucie

oh

i've never seen a trucie happen before

[copper ice]

its when you and the enemy heli go hehe trucies omg yaay and then blow the fuck out of infantry all round

[solid imp]

this happens to me in rocket league all the time where I'll go in with some mates on 3s and we're all like 1650~ish and go up against 2x 1750-1800 and 1 guy who's dogwater at 1200-1300 and drags the team MMR down

[glacial quarry]

lol i don't even need all chat to truce with the enemy team

[solid imp]

so we lose all the time because mmr kinda sucks

[hybrid totem]

Suppose I can continue getting better with the TOR then

[fiery shoal]

there should be a factor in the formula that wouldnt let outliers happen

[glacial quarry]

they see me going 80-0 on my tank and i don't go out of my way to attack them they leave me alone

other tanks**

auto truce

[sour meadow]

yea just sit in spawn with the TOR

best AA in the game

it's shit but what else can you do

[sick eagle]

fact

[woven acorn]

for me it made me realise what i really enjoy about bf... which is large scale warfare and not smaller modes unfortunately

[hybrid totem]

holy hell, and y'all think vehicle mains are scummy. That's bottom of the barrel right there

sheeeeit that's the mold below the barrel

[sick eagle]

why can the ebaa wildcat not point straight up

its a aa tank

[solid imp]

absolutely but this is the great thing that the game can offer everyone what they want.. no need to replace anything with 8v8. Keep it all.

[copper ice]

You are playing the role of buddha's hand

May benevolence shine upon the souls vanquished in your thunder

[glacial quarry]

how does one even get better at the TOR

[solid imp]

[pine roost]

Learn where to sit I guess

[hybrid totem]

For me it's mostly memorizing the places I can retreat to with air cover so the minibirds and super hinds can't death hover

[copper ice]

all 3 places per map where theres a ceiling

[sour meadow]

pilot mains always cry and scream and piss when they can't go 105-2

[hybrid totem]

exactly, that's my main gripe with the map design

[copper ice]

god forbid we have a single two storey house complete with pointy roof in 2042

[sick eagle]

barely anyone can drive the b17 without dying in 6 seconds

[solid imp]

👀

[copper ice]

B17?

[pine roost]

The bomber I think

[sick eagle]

the bomber

[copper ice]

we have a bomber?

[pine roost]

When I last tried it, it had some wacky physics

[sick eagle]

in 1942

[sick eagle]

very heavy and slow

[pine roost]

I’m surprised you are finding matches for that era

[sick eagle]

portal

[glacial quarry]

What i dont understand is hinds trying to take out tanks with a 40mm GL

[copper ice]

for a small moment i thought they'd added a bomber to the main game and my palms started sweating

[solid imp]

gunner issue

[pine roost]

Nah don’t worry

[silk mango]

Siege mode and shooting down enemy transports

[pine roost]

They wouldn’t do something as silly as adding a stealth bomber to the game…

right?

[sick eagle]

the b17 is insta killed with one tank shell

[copper ice]

Good

[sick eagle]

but it insta kills tanks

[copper ice]

Also good

Vehicles being vulnerable is good

[sick eagle]

it has 5 guns

[solid imp]

I mean....

[sick eagle]

1 driver, 5 gunners

[pine roost]

don’t remind them they did this, tuck that photo away, it never happened

[solid imp]

LOL

[copper ice]

Sweating again

[pine roost]

it’s been there for the last two seasons but I don’t want them getting any ideas

[sick eagle]

and hitting a plane with the wing of the b17 is insta death to any poor stuka or bf109

[copper ice]

moidar

[chilly jacinth]

thats not a stealth bomber

[sick eagle]

people like me use it to airdrop people over botb's e1

[chilly jacinth]

its a drone

[pine roost]

Who says a drone can’t also take the role of a stealth bomber

[glacial quarry]

bring back V1 rocket

[solid imp]

oh is it? huh I always figured it to be a bomber..

[pine roost]

Doesn’t need a pilot

[copper ice]

sorry the drone section says we only have ranger

[remote kiln]

it's too small to be a bomber

[copper ice]

no other drones

[solid imp]

I mean we're really far away from it lol

[remote kiln]

the wingspan is tiny compared to an actual stealth bomber

[chilly jacinth]

a bomber with one bomb

[sick eagle]

they would need to add the jetpacks

[chilly jacinth]

very effective

[copper ice]

i miss v1 so bad

[hybrid totem]

Because the BF series is known for its realism

[copper ice]

no more dogshit meatgrinder camping

just beautiful v1

[pine roost]

let’s keep it that way

[copper ice]

bring it back

[solid imp]

but they do show it tucking the wings in from full spread

[sick eagle]

just add the whole expansion from 1942

[copper ice]

add reinforcements again and ill even forget theres no fortifications

[remote kiln]

even so not sure what the point of having a stealth bomber flying around a desert has

it's 90% a drone

[solid imp]

oh now I have fort minor stuck in my head

someone gets that... I'm sure...

👀

[hybrid totem]

10% pain

[vast skiff]

Solo playing is boring

[hybrid totem]

have you tried the other type?

[true bluff]

why is getting a heli the hardest thing to do in this game 💀💀

theres no one in the team in a heli but none spawn

[vast skiff]

Trust me mate ps4 getting vehicles early game is not done

[true bluff]

I swear if you dont get a heli right when game starts theres none for the rest of the match

I sat for 25 mins waiting for a heli not one spawned

[hybrid totem]

the vehicle spawn screen is bugged, if you don't exit and re-enter it the available vehicles won't appear

Also the attack helicopter category is probably the most camped category in the game

[true bluff]

Yeah i can tell lmao im just tryna beat a challenge

[vast skiff]

Did you know that if the enemy grabs ur heli ur just fcked

[hybrid totem]

probably best to do it in solo mode tbh

[vast skiff]

So the heli ditchers r killing their own team spawn aswell😭

[true bluff]

do they count in portal, like im tryna unlock the stealth helis rn i need to do damage with attack helis

[hybrid totem]

Not sure, but if yo ugo into portal and do damage, and the number goes up, then yes

[true bluff]

ill try

[kindred flint]

lol today was the first time i got manifest in the LTM

start of the match all my teammates are rushing the far building and i take the tower...spot enemies flanking to the dome point, ping spamming them trying to shoot 100m away...teams just ignoring it

[robust vapor]

Can't wait for a Mackay to press E to hijack a heli

[mighty sandal]

after all this games gone through, how the hell is it still 60$ on steam

[robust vapor]

And throw the pilots out GTA style

[mighty sandal]

did this ever go on sale? Was seriously considering on getting it today, surprised its still at retail

[robust vapor]

Yes it was on sale

I got the game for $20

[mighty sandal]

so its not worth to buy it rn?

[robust vapor]

No

[remote kiln]

it's been on sale multiple times

and is free through Xbox game pass

[mighty sandal]

yeah i play on pc so its 60 on ea and steam

guess ill just wait for it to go back on sale

[kindred flint]

its $20 on epic

[remote kiln]

yeah, Xbox game pass is on pc aswell my guy

[mighty sandal]

oh, never heard of game pass lol my b

[remote kiln]

https://www.xbox.com/en-GB/xbox-game-pass/pc-game-pass

[mighty sandal]

so what yall think boys? get it on epic?

wait for a steam sale?

[kindred flint]

I mean 20 bux is not a lot of money..

[mighty sandal]

it really isnt, and ive been seeing lots of reviews talking about how its really picked up since that God awful launch

[muted elm]

Buy gamepass see if you like it

Gamepass comes with a lot of other games you can try for a month

[mighty sandal]

how much is gamepass ?

[muted elm]

Like 10$

[copper ice]

dont trust reviews

its drastically better than launch and it's still disappointing in many ways

use gamepass or ea play

[arctic grove]

Like I mean yeah there’s way less bugs, performance issues on average and more content but idk if I’d consider 2042 a good battlefield game

Also my paragraph above is separate from the discussion at hand, I’d suggest you try the game out on game pass/ea play like others have said and decide for yourself. See how it runs n stuff

[naive magnet]

All I want in life is a BF that doesn’t have the capturing glitch on Conq

Shits been around literally over a month at this point

[autumn harness]

This new mode is just pure granade and rm68 spam clusterfuck

Whoever thoguht it was good idea to make small scale gamemode and not remove half the things in the game should get fired

[chilly jacinth]

skill issue

[autumn harness]

doubt

[autumn harness]

tru my bad I dont play spx

[drowsy shuttle]

In the same mind set and logic of Paik, and hear me out, why not make a Specialist (maybe Boris after removing his sentry) with aimbot for 2.5 seconds? What do you guys think?

[vocal tusk]

Grenade spam? Play Irish! 👌

[arctic grove]

I feel like the least dice could do for Boris is make the turret player controllable

[autumn harness]

doesnt suit my run and gun playstyle

I mostly play agressive falck

[vocal tusk]

Then its a you issue

[autumn harness]

not rly, too many explosive weapons

people should shoot each other more, not hide behiond splash damage

[vocal tusk]

and what you actually want to say it..."Why is this game mode not tailored to my exact playstyle of run and gun"

[drowsy shuttle]

Na aimbot for boris. Lets spread cheats through specialists... maybe give speedhack to dozer?

[autumn harness]

Its tailored to casuals and thats the problem

[arctic grove]

xD

[edgy oriole]

how does it feel to get clapped by casuals

[autumn harness]

bad

[vocal tusk]

Its tailored to those who play as a team/squad and know the maps best

[edgy oriole]

skill issue

[hybrid totem]

so you are not a casual?

[autumn harness]

I do competitive Siege and OW so im not rly new to shooters

Im not rly rly good but I would say im better than average

[hybrid totem]

Are you new to 2042?

[obsidian bobcat]

the explosives are sometimes overwhelming but they're not that bad

[autumn harness]

400h in I think

[drowsy shuttle]

Overwatch? Eww

[hybrid totem]

You should know by now how much explosives there are

[autumn harness]

agreed but buddies are playing so I do to

[autumn harness]

I mean Ive played bf from BC2

I know, its just iritating

[hybrid totem]

As many in this server will attest, 2042 is nothing like previous titles

[drowsy shuttle]

I rather play solo a game that i like and want than play with buddies a game that i dont like.

Life is too short for us to play things we dont want

[autumn harness]

Oh I agree but I enjoy it even in ranked cause we are playing together and try to make plays

Every games has a lot of problems nowdays so its more of a who you are playing with then what you are playing

[autumn harness]

That is true as well, but I feel I get iritiated more here cause I have lower fps (Ryzen 1600/6800xt so hard cpu bottlneck)

[hybrid totem]

Can't help you there

[smoky owl]

Im new to 2042. Im enjoying it alot more than i expected so far

[hybrid totem]

it is a pretty badly optimized game

[autumn harness]

tbf it got better

[smoky owl]

Its not....great imo but its fun

I prefer bf4 and bc2

[autumn harness]

now ther are just making wrong decisions with adding more explosives

[autumn harness]

out of those two I would die to have Vietnam dlc servers full again

[smoky owl]

I wanna try vietnam before shutdown

I love og bc2 so much

[autumn harness]

honestly just flying alone in Huey is more fun then 2042 with exploisives so

go for it

I think there is server or 2 still up but empty

[smoky owl]

Im more or less new to bf in general

But bc2 was the first i really dived into

[autumn harness]

same for me, couldnt run anything newer few years back so Ive only played that

[smoky owl]

I wonder if the bc2 stuff in 2042 is any good

[autumn harness]

I think its just that I played a custom Flashpoint 4v4 where they banned explosives and its so much better then this one

[autumn harness]

two maps are perect remasters imo

[smoky owl]

Never played og 1942 but i played a match of portal its fun

[hybrid totem]

could be. There's a lot of people who feel the same way. Maybe you can start your own custom game mode and people in this server would join?

[autumn harness]

I mean im just waiting for my team to play in more of that flashpoint

[hybrid totem]

I personally do not play bf for any small modes, but there are people who do

[autumn harness]

Some big pro players will play it this sunday as a charity for Jordy17 who passed away (also a rly rly good player)

[smoky owl]

Was 2042 worse at launch than this?
Alot of the issues ive heard of i havent seen yet

[hybrid totem]

short answer yes

[autumn harness]

pre-alpha was locked to 30fps

some people said that it was that bad

[smoky owl]

Like the hit detection, characters being goofy, etc

[autumn harness]

ive played in beta and 1060 was a real struggle

[vocal tusk]

Its super weird that the old (IMO better) CQ64 layout for Renewal is still in the game, but never used.

[fiery shoal]

way better than launch, there still some weird omissions like persistent servers, squad options, etc but in as far as gameplay goes its solid, definitely worth 20 bucks

[vocal tusk]

Grab a cheap EA Play membership for a month and try it out for yourself...even better. Then if you like it...buy for cheap using the discount bonus from EA Play! 😛

[warped pulsar]

That new event is really unfun with randos

[bleak nebula]

this is the way

[drowsy shuttle]

You know a team is bad when cant cap the first sector in Stranded BT

Dear lord

[chilly jacinth]

isnt that really easy to defend though

[drowsy shuttle]

Imo stranded is one of the easiests maps to win in offense

[sour meadow]

the reload animations for the vault LMG's

physically hurt me

lifting up the cover from the hinge point

that is completely wrong

like you don't even need to know firearms to know that that's just wrong

[halcyon anvil]

Im having trouble launching battlefield 2042

[torpid wadi]

Eh if she goes bang

[sour meadow]

i can't help it

shit looks terrible

[torpid wadi]

Aye i understand

[radiant prism]

Yep, all that stuff was pretty bad at launch. It’s not the case anymore

[eager spire]

yeah now it's just recoil bugs still existing and the gunplay being lackluster, as well as various poor balance choices.

[smoky owl]

i see alot of the happy vibes and jokes were removed

[safe bramble]

alot of the fun too

[smoky owl]

and the characters seem more serious ish

[eager spire]

the only jokes here are the people playing the game. :V

[safe bramble]

what was left of it, anyway

[smoky owl]

im kinda enjoying it. but gunplay feels eh imo

for bf standards its really subpar

[eager spire]

yeah. that's because it is.

[true bluff]

anyway i can stop the ai from driving my car in solo conquest?

[radiant prism]

Just swap to the drivers seat

AI don’t block seats

[tawdry horizon]

Anyone else having issues getting Steam/EA App to launch the game?

[halcyon anvil]

YES

[tawdry horizon]

K, so its not just me. Just incompetent DICE being incompetent

[halcyon anvil]

yeah

[magic bloom]

That’s crazy

I forgot about this name

[radiant prism]

Crazy

[arctic grove]

Not sure if DICE has anything to do with EA creating a shitty launcher or how that means they’re incompetent tho

[radiant prism]

Yeah that’s on EA lol

DICE has nothing to do with the launcher

[tawdry horizon]

Oh, we're just ignore 2042's launch? Sure, theyve redeemed themselves, again, but as a studio, still far more incompetent than their direct competitors

[radiant prism]

[tawdry horizon]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

I dunno man. Ive been day drinking all day.

Ignore me

[true bluff]

Yeah i know that but im tryna kill something and then it just drives to other side of map

Kinda annoying especially when no one is where it drivers

[jade cove]

no one will

[tawdry horizon]

bruh I was <---> this close to wiping my hard drive and reformatting haha. Thought my PC was being a POS again. But its just EA. Touche.

[arctic grove]

Their direct competitors? Who might they be? 343 industries and Halo Infinite, sledgehammer and CoD vanguard?

The best BF games have come out of terrible launches, tbh I’m not mad at how BF games launch, so long as the gameplay and design is there (BF4 for instance)

Those things aren’t present for 2042

What fucked 2042 over was average corp unrealistic deadlines to rush the game out for holiday moners, plus bad executive design choices like specialists (and unfortunately 128, but I like it now)

[tawdry horizon]

Agree with everything you just said.

Despite my brain-dead comment earlier.

RE: Ea/DICE

[arctic grove]

Nah it’s alright man, it’s just IMO EA is the one to be mad at and not DICE

DICE pulls weird shit too but in general I don’t blame them for how 2042 is

[radiant prism]

DICE pulls weird shit but fixes it eventually

[tawdry horizon]

Like clockwork.

[radiant prism]

EA just kinda pulls weird shit and then is like “damn that’s crazy, anyways when’s the next one come out”

[past apex]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-JR3bMPJlj0

[eager spire]

well, fixes it, a lot of stuff still isn't fixed in regards to 2042, and most of it probably won't be fixed.

[halcyon anvil]

I have a theory that only people that bought a more expensive edition or have a certain subscriction wont crash

[tawdry horizon]

BF4 was just as big a dumpster fire when it released. Now its the Magnus Opus of Battlefield releases

[radiant prism]

Let’s not call BF4 a magnum opus

[tawdry horizon]

I do miss OP Metro though 😦

[radiant prism]

Because it really isn’t that great by modern standards though

[tawdry horizon]

It didnt age well, no, but as for setting the bar...that was it man

[radiant prism]

BF4 has sooo much jank, even compared to 2042

[arctic grove]

I agree so much

It’s gameplay is dated by todays standards but BF4 is enough of a good game that really all it needs is a game to succeed it

Theme was top notch, I love modern themes and BF4 was peak for that

Like seriously if they just kept the movement from V and took 4s theme and made a game out of that I’d never shut up about that game

[eager spire]

BF4 is fine, but it is certainly dated by how people play it. It's not really a great game to play in 2023, simply because everything's been figured out and most people are all doing the same thing.

[carmine rover]

hiii lycan :3

i hope ur having a wonderful day

[eager spire]

i'm ok

[wide shore]

Not to mention the fucking UCAV shitters

[tawdry horizon]

has the EA app issue been happening all day or just recently started? First time jumping on for the weekend

[dense atlas]

My Wishlist for BattleField 7
-32v32
-Portal Mode is back with a Map editor
-Modern Day
-Gritty like BF1
-Classes are back with no specialists

[wanton magnet]

Does anyone know which window for the hind has the pilot? I see two in front.

[tawdry horizon]

Left window. Right is the captain

[hybrid totem]

I really hope they stop trying to develop two games at the same time. Separate Portal and re-release it by itself

[tawdry horizon]

What else is everyone playing these days?

[acoustic seal]

ff14 lol

[arctic grove]

I’m looking forward to picking up BF4 on PC because I can’t with the default locked console fov

But I usually gravitate between mw2, bf1/v and hoi4

[wide shore]

Lately? The Xbox dashboard.

[hybrid totem]

Stellaris and the Metro series at the moment

[acoustic seal]

shooters are in a dire place right now, the finals and xdefiant are both utterly forgettable

[wide shore]

Sometimes 2042. Sometimes Bo3 zombies. Some Minecraft for work stuff. Mainly just waiting for Wednesday for the Horizon Forbidden West DLC

[eager spire]

my wishlist for BF7
-32v32, 16v16, and 8v8 dedicated modes
-More than just a couple infantry maps in the base lineup that aren't just meatgrinders
-BF4 gunplay with no visual recoil
-Has standard BF stuff like all chat, spectator mode, tank APS, all on launch
-Has weapon and vehicle balance that makes sense

[lilac crater]

Imagine if double XP = faster unlocking attachments 🤨

[acoustic seal]

why? attachments are easy

[wide shore]

You can unlock all attachments on a gun in like, 1-2 bot games.

[sick eagle]

ghostmaker

[wide shore]

Okay. Maybe 3-4. It’s not hard

[sick eagle]

for helis doe

its harder

cus you can just die to a m5 using ai

[weary slate]

how long will be double xp active?

[lilac crater]

I didn’t say it was hard, I was just saying imagine

[sour meadow]

can someone explain to me why everyone skips revives

[edgy oriole]

takes too long and they just wanna get right back into it

[sick eagle]

faster to get into action

[sour meadow]

great

[sick eagle]

and besides a guy could shoot you

[acoustic seal]

i do not trust these people to not revive me into gunfire

[sick eagle]

preventing your revive

[acoustic seal]

0% chance they shoot the people staring at your body, not even worth risking it

[sour meadow]

good point

well

that's a whole class wasted

[sick eagle]

the defib is still good

[acoustic seal]

you play medic when you want to self heal with falck lol

[sick eagle]

i do that

[sour meadow]

so we have medics lonewolfing it because it takes too long to revive other people

[sick eagle]

it takes a second to revive someone

[sour meadow]

exactly

[sick eagle]

but medics are way faster

[sour meadow]

yet no one does it

or when they do, they never put 2 and 2 together to realize that the person who killed you is nearby

and probably camping your body

[sick eagle]

you can ping your killer

[lilac crater]

How did you get into bot matches

[sour meadow]

no one pays attention to pings

[sick eagle]

the solo/coop mode

[sick eagle]

it 3d spots them too

[sour meadow]

still

they too stupid to see it

[wide shore]

Just go to the mode you want to play, then scroll over to solo/coop

[sick eagle]

except rush and hz

[lilac crater]

Oooh okay

[sick eagle]

is hazard zone any good

haven't played since 2021

[wide shore]

As a Falck main, I revive literally everybody I can. And heal people. So much so my pistol is always out of ammo

[sick eagle]

i main falck and revive everyone sometimes

except i keep the meds

[lilac crater]

@glacial quarry for the rm26 would short barrel and extended standard mag with LWG grip basically be meta

[wide shore]

Can confirm. It’s really good in that config

[drowsy shuttle]

I would just change the grip for the laser

[sick eagle]

is hazard zone even good

[arctic grove]

no

[acoustic seal]

hz hasn't been touched since it released

because nobody plays it

[sour meadow]

there's a reason DICE abandoned it

[sick eagle]

yet its still there

[drowsy shuttle]

I would play it.. if it was good.. was the game mode that got me more excited about bf 2042... but was a big and round failure

[sick eagle]

didn't mw2 copy it?

[sour meadow]

no mw2 copied tarkov

[drowsy shuttle]

They all tried to copy tarkov/the division... both failed.. but dmz is 100x better than hazard zone

[sick eagle]

dmz is very similar

[lilac crater]

The one I said? Interesting. Also, no solo tdm?

[sour meadow]

i tried dmz with randoms

shit was boring as piss

[lilac crater]

I’ll give it a go thank you

[eager spire]

yeah but you're comparing crap to shit here

like yeah it's slightly better

but it's still bad

[drowsy shuttle]

Dmz is bad because activision dropped the ball... but its atill 100x better than hazard zone... but yeah both could be way better... dmz has/had more potencial tho

[sick eagle]

just hazard zone without tornados and future weapons

[eager spire]

yeah but still. both are not great

[sour meadow]

it's funny because it's trying to copy tarkov

and then you try tarkov

and you're like "wow. this is hell"

[eager spire]

yeah tarkov is..an acquired taste, let's just say that.

i don't think it's something that should be exactly replicated.

[sour meadow]

tarkov is like black licorice

[drowsy shuttle]

I agree... but dmz is the closest we had to a casual tarkov experience... but yeah still kinda shit and totally pointless to play it

[sick eagle]

its bad but one country likes it

[sour meadow]

"casual" and "tarkov" can't be used in the same sentence

[drowsy shuttle]

I dont thin you understood what i said

[sour meadow]

even if you play SPT with mods

shit is still not easy

[eager spire]

currently the best way to play Tarkov is with SPT.

[sour meadow]

*most fun way

[sick eagle]

they need to update hz

[eager spire]

because you gain nothing playing Live unless you're a streamer who literally gets paid to play the game.

[sour meadow]

i can't imagine being in that position

i'd go insane

[drowsy shuttle]

Anyway im with 2-4 score because of discord i should focus on the game lol

[sour meadow]

anyways

dice

give us the G3A3, the F200, and the AUG plz thanks

[sick eagle]

give us the mp5

[sour meadow]

wow i actually forgot about that gun

for a sec i thought it was in AOW

[sick eagle]

i mean the k30 (vector) is there

why not the mp5

[raven haven]

Does Casper have a free skin in the new mode

[glacial moon]

he will next week afaik

[eager spire]

I don't even understand why they put the Vector in the game, especially considering they had such a big problem balancing the thing that they just nerfed all the SMG's at once to deal with it.

[raven haven]

Yippee

[eager spire]

"We nerfed the K30's damage model but it's still really effective, what do we do?"
"...eh fuck it just nerf headshots on all SMG's, say they're not weapons that should reward accuracy anyway."

[sick eagle]

they should add more boats

[eager spire]

why

what would be improved about this game if it had boats.

what benefit would that have.

[sick eagle]

like the only boat is the rhib

[sick eagle]

super hinds having a enemy maybe

[eager spire]

how would a boat be an enemy for a Super Hind, exactly?

[sick eagle]

i dunno

[eager spire]

exactly.

[glacial moon]

Theres not even much useable water in any of the maps for boats to utilise

[eager spire]

so what's the point.

[sick eagle]

it depends

add operation metro to 2042

[eager spire]

I mean, they could probably do that, but it wouldn't be fun.

because Metro isn't that fun with 64 players, you think it'd be any better with 128?

[sick eagle]

well what about 32

24 was good for it

[eager spire]

maybe it'd be okay? Honestly, what makes the difference between Metro being okay and Metro being bad is if shotguns and explosives are allowed.

[hybrid totem]

Metro with the top open would be lovely for 128

[eager spire]

i doubt it

[hybrid totem]

It could be the urban map everyone is pining for

[eager spire]

you'd have people camping the entrances and exits to the Metro. It'd be like B Flag but at various spots throughout the map.

[hybrid totem]

well that's... that's just cqc

[eager spire]

no, that's just meatgrinders, dude.

[royal swan]

No it's most cqc

Camping isn't a rare occurrence and isn't only on certain maps

It's on all maps

And very common

They are mostly effective in cqc

[hybrid totem]

I thought being a meat grinder was literally the appeal of cqc

[spiral folio]

man frigin APS everywhere

everyone and their dog has the mini-bunker set up

[hybrid totem]

ooh nice idea! A ranger that's just a mobile APS

[spiral folio]

with the barricade and sentry behind it

[royal swan]

Aps weren't really the problem, it's the fact how common people have them

[spiral folio]

APS is a problem

"it's not the device that's the problem it's that people use it" oh yea that sense makes

[royal swan]

In bf4 or the past battlefield game with aps, you rarely see it sometimes

For me at least

[spiral folio]

and it works THROUGH barricades

[royal swan]

The other equipments were just better than the aps

[spiral folio]

like if it wasn't actual magic, it wouldn't be bad

[royal swan]

In bf4

[spiral folio]

but the fact it's magic is why it's bad

unlimited interception, and it just deletes them

[royal swan]

If you remove aps from the specialist slot, put it in equipment on support, then make it only be one aps. The problem would go away

[sick eagle]

cqc would be awful with stuff like boris and irish

[spiral folio]

make it like have limited uses and reaction time, not just delete all projectiles in radius

[royal swan]

Aps is strong mainly how commonly it's used and quickly you can get it

[spiral folio]

even if the limit is 10, it'd be better than it is now

[acoustic seal]

aps is strong because you can place one and it deletes all projectiles forever

[spiral folio]

the lack of limits on it makes it super obnoxious

I'm really sick to shit of em

[royal swan]

Thats overshadowed by how commonly it's used

[spiral folio]

no it's amplified by how common it's used

[royal swan]

Bf4 had the aps but unlike this game it's a rare occurrence

[spiral folio]

and more people are using them because of how op it is

and the more it stays op the more people will use it

[acoustic seal]

it's commonly used because dice added a bunch of explosive weapons to retroactively justify APS being overpowered

[spiral folio]

yea it's their bad bandaid to fix the problem they created

[royal swan]

It's commonly used because it's commonly available

[acoustic seal]

adding a counter-problem does not make the problem go away, believe it or not

[spiral folio]

no it's common because it's broken, more people use things when it's overpowered

if it wasn't very good, people wouldn't use it

the commonality isn't why it's annoying, the fact it's way overpowered is why it's common

[royal swan]

No it's easily available

It doesn't take up a equipment slot

You can place two

And it's on a decent specialist

[acoustic seal]

everything is easily available and that's not going to be changed, so we have to look at fixing it into an acceptable state

[spiral folio]

it should be 1 with an idiotic cooldown

or better

you have to find an ammo box to get another XD

[royal swan]

But it's the main reason it's bad

[acoustic seal]

and being hard to get wouldn't justify the power anyway

[spiral folio]

there'll never be another APS again

[royal swan]

It may be unchangeable but it's the main reason

[spiral folio]

doubt

[royal swan]

Put that shit in equipment, restrict it to one, and it will drop in usages

[spiral folio]

the stupid sentry pods are half the reason that fuckin server room on exposure is invulnerable too

[acoustic seal]

no shit it would drop in usage, it's still overpowered

having less of them does not make them suddenly not overpowered

[royal swan]

Always have an excuse

[spiral folio]

it'd just make its effects less prevalent if the number of them decreased, but it'd still be op

[acoustic seal]

there's one super hind per match, does that make it balanced?

[drowsy shuttle]

Ac-42 sometimes absolutely melts ... other times feels like its a pea shooter... so weird lol

[spiral folio]

lol... doubt

[royal swan]

No one will use it "oH iT wIlL bE oVeRpOwErEd" that's statement is so fucking stupid

[spiral folio]

they haven't rubbed two braincells together to patch the hind since release so I have no faith

we had some moron give the enemy our hind on purpose

[acoustic seal]

there's one super hind per match, does that make it balanced?

fucking think man

[spiral folio]

I just sat back pecking shots at it til we eventually got it

[royal swan]

It matters when people use it

[spiral folio]

it took like 2 sectors, we lost by 1 flag

[acoustic seal]

there's no reason to band-aid the problem when you could just fix the problem

[royal swan]

For something to be considered overpowered it must be abused

[spiral folio]

we literally would have won if it wasn't for that guy giving it away

[royal swan]

If it's no longer abused or even used

It's no longer overpowered

[spiral folio]

no people sometime take time to discover something is overpowered

and then it catches on like crazy

[acoustic seal]

people don't have the braincells to pull recoilless, that doesn't mean it's not overpowered

[royal swan]

I doubt people would give up a ammo crate for aps if aps was restricted to support equipment

[acoustic seal]

people don't have the braincells to use super hind, that doesn't mean it's not overpowered

[spiral folio]

whether something is overpowered is purely determined by its capability, not usage. People over time will discover the overpoweredness of something and gravitate toward it

[acoustic seal]

it would be the same thing with APS because you never fixed the problem

[royal swan]

If it ain't abused it ain't overpowered

Restrict the usability and you killed the abuse

[acoustic seal]

braindead take

[spiral folio]

World of Tanks had this one tank the T59 that was super broken and as people found out eventually you saw more and more per match

[royal swan]

Killing its effectiveness and being overpowered

[spiral folio]

eventually teams were literally 2/3 this one vehicle

it was the first time they patched a premium vehicle cause it was seriously messed up

[royal swan]

Nah forget this I'm not going to be beaten down by morons

So fucking stupid

[spiral folio]

but it was overpowered from the start, it just caught on because peopel discovered it was

[carmine rover]

i swear im going against 64 boris players this game

[spiral folio]

mature

[royal swan]

Really can't win with idiots

[carmine rover]

i see a gagillion turrets

[acoustic seal]

congratulations dude, there's less of them but they still have an infinite capacity to delete every projectile in their area

[spiral folio]

you can't get away from yourself either

but ad hominem is really disgusting

[acoustic seal]

you made the problem less common, you didn't fix it

this shouldn't be hard to understand

[spiral folio]

I get what he's going at but it doesn't solve the brokenness it just cools things down slightly

part of the problem but it's still crap

[royal swan]

Oh wait I remember a fix to usability turn something overpowered to forgotten

The bolte

I remember when that shit was used so much, and now it's a rare occurrence

[acoustic seal]

people forgot it because you can pull a jeep for the literal same effect

[royal swan]

Not even the same

[spiral folio]

they also heavily nerfed it

[royal swan]

Don't compare the bolte to the fucking jeep

[spiral folio]

but lets forget that part

[glacial quarry]

yes. short barrel no matter what, then bcg or lwg based on preference

[spiral folio]

before lis, the bolte could just sit on a hill and pound away

[acoustic seal]

i am going to compare the bolte to the jeep when the main attraction is the explosive top gun and not the vehicle

[glacial quarry]

i personally dont like the laser. when a gun already has no recoil, its better to reduce the spread

[spiral folio]

lis pretty much obsoleted camping with a jeep

[royal swan]

Didn't really kill it, if it was in the light vehicle category damn well you will be bitching about it like before

[spiral folio]

that is

until APS CAME ALONG

and now morons can just sit around in a jeep with APS pods around it

[glacial quarry]

lol its most annoying on manifest BT

the defense team will just camp hill with jeeps

but a lot are usually free kills if im on tank

[acoustic seal]

people pulled boltes to shoot at infantry from hilltops with the explosive gun, now people pull jeeps to shoot at infantry from hilltops with the explosive guns

[royal swan]

Now that wouldn't be an issue if they reduced it to one aps and put it in equipment, meaning no infinite recharge time on aps

Aps can still get destroyes by explosives, it's not entirely invincible

It's not consistent, aps only survive long enough based on their luck. Most of the time they are destroyed by missed explosives or explosives that got to close

[spiral folio]

... so instead of TWO aps blocking every missile that comes near it, now... one aps blocks everything that goes near it... seems like the same problem

aps behind a rock or barricade IS invulnerable though

[royal swan]

Is almost

[spiral folio]

is literally because you can't get it

[royal swan]

Like I said luck

[spiral folio]

when you can't break something, it's not breakable

[dusk hedge]

Is double xp event + double xp token really 4x? Feels like 3x

[spiral folio]

you can't just rocket harder at it

it just insta-deletes

[royal swan]

From maining Irish you can definitely notice the aps inconsistencies

[spiral folio]

ahhh that makes sense

part of the problem

defending it

WoT had those guys too, something's blatantly broken and they'd dig in and defend it to the hilt

[royal swan]

Well that's WoT

Fun isn't it's main focus

[spiral folio]

there was one vehicle with literally the deck gun of a destroyer, it could fire 6 shots in a minute and people were like "oh it's not overpowered cause once it destroys somebody nearly instantly it takes a while to reload" yea that's not the point
"well all you do is rush it after that"
takes longer than a minute to cross that field and then it deletes you

[royal swan]

Hell fun is it's last thing on the list

[spiral folio]

and people would defend this thing because they used it

not because it wasn't op, they just didn't wanna lose their game breaking unbalanced vehicle

at least in that WoT had systems limiting the number of that vehicle type, but it was still overpowered as hell, one on a team would decide the outcome

[royal swan]

Having the aps take damage won't entirely fix the problem as much as my usage restrictions

[spiral folio]

but people just defended it like crazy with bad logic cause it was their op weapon and didn't want it to go away

[royal swan]

As long as they have an infinite supply of aps

Recharging every time

Having two

[spiral folio]

a great fix for APS would be like if it intercepts a missile, the debris smashes into it if it's aimed right

like a shotgun blast

encourage people to use boost mode at it

which would narrow the debris field

[royal swan]

That sounds like something that can cause lots of bugs

[spiral folio]

oh no

[royal swan]

Or a few bugs

[spiral folio]

or if I could choose like an intert projectile lis rocket like those blade missiles the military used on that one guy

with the tungsten blades instead of explosives

[royal swan]

It's better that the aps can block the rocket but not the explosion

[spiral folio]

then if it's intercepted, the blades continue, destroy the pod

[royal swan]

Killing the aps

[spiral folio]

if it worked like aps work, it wouldn't be bad, but the way they are, is bad

[torpid falcon]

Falck or Angel. Can't decide. I like Angel for the resupply but Falck for the constant self heal on the go with revive

[royal swan]

Nothing works as the real counterpart

[torpid falcon]

Angel has the same, but not as quick of a self heal if that makes sense

[royal swan]

Be better if Irish can only place one of his equipment

That would half the annoyance Irish is

An aps only has so much range, one aps won't fully protect a tank

[glacial quarry]

jokes on you where i live summer is the only season

[fiery shoal]

yeaa.. im gonna disagree.. theres 3 weapons in bfv that were busted and no one used them

g1-5, zh and 1906 were busted for the longest time, people barely caught on to the zh and 1906 towards the end of the life cycle, and even then they arent not widely used

most people just pick a weapon that is good AND easy to use, imo a lot of "op" weapons are a bit harder to use

[naive magnet]

What’s the best weapon in BF2042 in your mind

Top 3 if you want

[arctic grove]

For me it's the rm68 right now

[tidal trail]

Rm68 is a no brainer

[naive magnet]

I’d say: RM68, Scar, AC9

[tidal trail]

SFAR

[royal swan]

G1-5 was mid, overclassed

[naive magnet]

Is the k30 better than the ac9

[fiery shoal]

absolutely not mid, that weapon before and after 5.2 was a monster

3 btk under 50m with body shots? weapon had 30 rounds in a mag

10 kills to body shots within 30m in a single mag is insane

even then, the reload was barely longer than most weapons

the ONLY weakness was strong VREC and weak beyond 100m...

[royal swan]

River rose was better

[radiant prism]

Funny orange cat :)

[fiery shoal]

river rose?

[radiant prism]

Ribeyrolles probably? I think he got bonked by autocorrect

[fiery shoal]

ribeye rolls or whatever the ranged stg was?

[royal swan]

Yes

[fiery shoal]

ribeye was just like the stg 44, decent all around (but leaned towards ranged) and easy to use

[arctic grove]

Does anyone know what differentiates cpu fps and gpu fps in by using the perfoverlay command

[radiant prism]

Ribeyrolles was underused

[royal swan]

But if I want the best bfv assault weapon on recoil and damage it's the stg

[fiery shoal]

why use ribeye when stg was a better close range version of it?

[remote kiln]

CPU FPS is how much the processor is rendering, GPU is how much the GPU is rendering on it's end

[royal swan]

Not sure what games you were playing, I saw the ribe alot

[arctic grove]

Thanks

[radiant prism]

Idk I feel like I didn’t see it much

[royal swan]

It was that or the stg

Stg was more common

[radiant prism]

Then again it’s been over a year since I’ve played BFV

I could just be braindead

[fiery shoal]

i hardly saw the ribeye

it was all stg44 for me

[royal swan]

Stg was a powerhouse

1-5 is mid for a reason

[fiery shoal]

@royal swan did you play bfv on pc or console? on console the g1-5 vrec would be kind of hard to use

[radiant prism]

Powerhouse but it really wasn’t that crazy

[royal swan]

And it's the stg

[royal swan]

Console

[fiery shoal]

which then i could see why console would pref something like the stg44

yea thats why

[royal swan]

So the 1-5 was very mid

[fiery shoal]

ive not seen a single person like the g1-5 on console

[royal swan]

If I could get the control I could manage it

[fiery shoal]

on pc most good players had the g1-5 as their best kpm

[royal swan]

On consoles it's the stg

And shotguns

Consoles love shotguns

[radiant prism]

Lewis was something I saw a lot

Because the Lewis was fucking stupid in BFV

[royal swan]

Thank god I was on console

No cheaters

[radiant prism]

Yea

I encountered one cronus but that was it

[royal swan]

Also the 1906 and zh

Those were the rifles right

The semi auto rifles

Yeah, also mid on consoles

Except the garand for some reason

[fiery shoal]

yea the long range SLRs

just 2 tap everyone across the entire map in .4 seconds

of course if you dont land 2 consecutive shots then it sucks, hence why its probably mid console

[royal swan]

Console bfv was not engaging compared to pc

Vehicles were just horrible on consoles

Most guns didn't perform well and were just mid weapons

If there was a underused overpowered gun in bfv, it wouldn't be overpowered on consoles

[spiral folio]

Console users dont think the same way people do

[fiery shoal]

theres just fundamental differences between how controller and mice work and those pros and cons transfer to specific weapons too

[orchid crest]

Meow.

[spiral folio]

It's tragic

Those poor things

[orchid crest]

I'm a console peasant.

I am Ps4 so I'm extra segregated too

[royal swan]

The good thing about consoles for bfv is we didn't get cheaters

Every game, zero cheaters

[orchid crest]

Lies.

[spiral folio]

Did bf5 have aim assist

[orchid crest]

Strike packs existed back then

[spiral folio]

If so... everyone was a cheater

[orchid crest]

Not really.

[royal swan]

There was no crossplay so that argument doesn't work there

[spiral folio]

Guiltyyyy

[orchid crest]

There are physical devices you can buy at Walmart that can help you cheat in playstation 4 games.

[spiral folio]

Glasses?

[orchid crest]

I wish.

[royal swan]

If so it would be very very rare

[orchid crest]

Based on the sales I'd say no.

[royal swan]

Compared to the fucking infestation on pc

[orchid crest]

Yah I guess

[royal swan]

Also most likely they were playing cod

Or Fortnite

Not bfv

[orchid crest]

And apex lol

[spiral folio]

Disgusting

[orchid crest]

I play fortnite.

I am terrible at fortnite for reference

[next onyx]

Cheating is much more difficult on console thankfully. And even so doesn't get you far.

Well it's not so difficult but also?

[cosmic dragon]

I only play without building because it’s so funny watching kids tryna shoot at you

They can’t aim for shit

[orchid crest]

Yah well at least now devolpment teams are taking console cheating seriously because like.... There is some sophisticated setups.

[orchid crest]

I killed 4 kids with a sword in under 30 seconds.

[next onyx]

Yeah with ricochet which is amazing.

[cosmic dragon]

Oh damn

Snipers are really weird in Fortnite

Like the bullet moves slower than most weapons

Same with rpgs

[orchid crest]

Yah

Tbh it's like that in battlefield as well.

[cosmic dragon]

In most games I think

[orchid crest]

High power ammo reduces velocity.

[cosmic dragon]

Mm

[orchid crest]

Heavy sniper round is like the size of your forearm so may as well be launching a missle

[cosmic dragon]

Yeah

[spiral folio]

Games really struggle balancing snipers because they listen to whiners too much

But since snipers are rare compared to the average spearholder, they get steamrolled

[onyx mica]

Spear

[spiral folio]

Ie why the ntw is a piece of shit

[cosmic dragon]

I wish the ntw was better

[onyx mica]

Im sad

[cosmic dragon]

Like 1 shot at longer range

Because if it’s like 125+ you ain’t getting no 1 hits

[spiral folio]

PtFoOOoOoOoo

[cosmic dragon]

Anyway ima go sleep

I’m tired as duck

[spiral folio]

huh cause im as energetic as a duck

[calm notch]

how do u guys make the pkp work?

[edgy oriole]

lay prone

[calm notch]

like what barrel and ammo?

[hybrid totem]

hold aim, hold fire, repeat until dead

[calm notch]

bruh

[cosmic dragon]

It’s 2am here

[calm notch]

feels outclassed byt he avancys and rpt

[hybrid totem]

pretty sure it is, they nerfed it a while back

[cosmic dragon]

I had medication to help with my sleep disorder

Have

[spiral folio]

I just dont sleep

[calm notch]

for what reason?

i think it was just the lcmg and the pkp

[cosmic dragon]

Sometimes I wish for that

[hybrid totem]

same reason they nerf everything, people complained about it

[calm notch]

r u fucking serious?

[hybrid totem]

it was like a year ago

[spiral folio]

Part of my next VA claim is i cant sleep

[calm notch]

then what about the m5?

[cosmic dragon]

But my problem is that I sleep when my body is tired and I can’t keep myself awake

[hybrid totem]

the rocket launcher?

[calm notch]

m5a3

the ar

literally is a jcak of all trdaes gun

[cosmic dragon]

Some days I won’t sleep at all

[next onyx]

Arcom helps with the pkp.

[spiral folio]

Yea i had to quit one job cause i was in so much pain i couldn't sleep

[next onyx]

M5a3 loves the short barrel with standard extended.

[spiral folio]

Ive got all kinds of issues from the army

And then those issues cause issues

But don't let thst discourage anyone :v

[frosty flint]

does anyone here enjoy the full auto shotgun with the slugs?

I've never seen anyone use it, but is seems like a decent option...

[acoustic seal]

you don't need slugs once you get the drum mag and can auto anyone at any range

[dapper river]

rm68 crutcher

[onyx mica]

[tidal trail]

I just killed a helicopter main and he left immediately lmao

[sand shadow]

Any help finding a game? I can't seem to load into anything right now

[remote kiln]

"c5 is no longer intercepted by the trophy system"

[onyx mica]

sweet

[carmine rover]

hi optimus :3

hope ur having a wonderful day

[onyx mica]

it is time.. to be an active suicide bomber soon

hey not sure about that but ty

[remote kiln]

wtf

thats something

[onyx mica]

not yet

[edgy oriole]

all my c5 kills has been bc of c5 drone

[onyx mica]

i like to deliver it personally

[edgy oriole]

but the real question is

do you have a kill with med crate

[onyx mica]

no

[edgy oriole]

i do

[onyx mica]

i don't use med

[edgy oriole]

[edgy oriole]

you missing out its pog

[onyx mica]

i agree

[edgy oriole]

idk how i got a kill with it but i dont question it

i main double heal falck. so sometime my med crate throw was too stronk

[onyx mica]

very nice

i am not using falck anymore

rao and lis mainly

[edgy oriole]

[onyx mica]

occasionally casper

[carmine rover]

why did i read this as 14,000 scatter kills

i was going to be like omg

[acoustic seal]

i late join into a breakthrough attack game and instantly die to sph twice, so i back out and queue for the event and instantly die to sph on a late join attack

why do people say this game is fun

[edgy oriole]

scatter been bugged for ages. since they got rid of emp scatter

[onyx mica]

i died to it so many times i did not even bother to remember

[edgy oriole]

which i used

[glacial moon]

the people saying it's fun are the ones with SPH

[carmine rover]

i have 509 scatter kills

[edgy oriole]

i only use AA nade since they murdered emp nade so i have no kills 😦

[carmine rover]

i have 2,460 sg-36 sentry gun kills

boris

😭

[onyx mica]

some people kept chasing me when i am trying to reload, so sometimes i planted c5 and waited for them to come

mostly smg users

since i can hear elephants are running around

[drowsy shuttle]

I need a new game, im close to get burnout by bf 2042..

[next onyx]

Reminds me, I probably have 2000 to 3000 kills with the XM370.

[onyx mica]

uh

[next onyx]

Stats no tell though. -.-

[drowsy shuttle]

Playing with vault weapons against rm68 its a nice challenge

[next onyx]

Honestly I've been feeling that with the game since the end of season 3.

[onyx mica]

that is why sometimes i am just playing around with polaris example

or just driving around with recon trying to find people to run over

[karmic egret]

Has anyone been using all chat

[onyx mica]

i put my tab on all chat so yea

been actively exchanging friendly chats too

and constructive comments..

[orchid crest]

Unfortunately I don't see people use it on Ps4 lol

[onyx mica]

just like what they said we should do in all chat

[drowsy shuttle]

Sometimes. But its boring

[onyx mica]

when they said i hope all your family die, i would reply with, ty for your kind concern sir

[drowsy shuttle]

I havent seen anything like that so far

[onyx mica]

these are the usual friendly chats nothing uncommon

[orchid crest]

Pretty much.

At least it isn't fortnite chats.

[onyx mica]

i don't play fn

i would not know

[fresh cairn]

Last night someone said I'm the reason hospitals are struggling with money cause I have no life and job

[onyx mica]

that is cute

[fresh cairn]

Paik, K30, smoke and still went neg

he wasn't happy

[onyx mica]

i assumed so

[next onyx]

LOL I thought he was still on the RPL 20 NAH.

[fresh cairn]

He changed to an LCMG and went prone in a bush

[onyx mica]

who is he?

[fresh cairn]

Ended being like 8-3 on him

[onyx mica]

i am curious

[next onyx]

Oh yeah that's right later on he switched to that.

[fresh cairn]

Was 3/4 of his deaths

[hasty hound]

I swear shutdown is starting to become trash

[next onyx]

It's like you're not a bad player per say but you're such a shitter so you can get fucked.

[fresh cairn]

Nah he was shit

[fresh cairn]

Okjabroni I think

[onyx mica]

somewhere in other region, ty for info anyway

[next onyx]

Just OCE things haha.

[onyx mica]

😉

[fresh cairn]

Imagine DWE @next onyx my lord it would be funny

[next onyx]

Oh man.

That'd be funny.

Talking about that. There is a former DWE member that comes up occasionally.

[drowsy shuttle]

I think its time for a rm68 nerf. Everyone already has it, skin unlocked etc... its time Dice.

[fresh cairn]

Nah they'll just nerf snipes again

[drowsy shuttle]

Lol

I wouldnt be surprised

[next onyx]

Aren't they in COD though, Connor.

DWE and LNF.

That or I swear they've just stopped playing altogether lmao.

[fresh cairn]

Not sure if they are they weren't in my SBMM bracket kmao

[next onyx]

HA.

[fresh cairn]

Or they have crossplay off or both

[onyx mica]

people should be able to play alone if their friends stop playing

[fresh cairn]

Wouldn't be surprised

[next onyx]

Yeah about that.

[fresh cairn]

Still on BFV tbh

[next onyx]

They're the kind of people that need to stack a server to play.

[onyx mica]

i see

[drowsy shuttle]

Thats sad

[next onyx]

And outside of that they sit in vehicles to pad their stats.

[fresh cairn]

^

[next onyx]

And if you call them out on it they get super offended.

[drowsy shuttle]

Stackers are the worst kind of trash just right after cheaters.

[glacial moon]

Basically the state of the last few BF4 aus servers, Hz clan just ruin all the fun in vehicles lol

[next onyx]

Ughhhh what was his name? The guy from LNF. I made a statement in that OCE - L servers and Shirotsu got super offended.

I was asleep though.

So I couldn't see.

[plain hamlet]

so what exactly can dozer blok with his shield

just pistols?

[onyx mica]

everything. mostly

[next onyx]

But a huge fight erupted and I fell asleep so nothing.

Gunfire.

[fresh cairn]

I still like if they stacked us we'd just get another 4 and roll all of them

[next onyx]

And explosives pointed at them.

Aye.

[fresh cairn]

Hmm who wins 8 of us or 12+ of them hmmmmmm

[remote kiln]

explosives gunfire tank shells etc

[plain hamlet]

i always die quickly after i try to use it to run someone down, they always kill me easily even tho i’m right in front of them with the shield

[fresh cairn]

Toes

[next onyx]

To be fair connor there's only so much you can do but yeah. With 8 of us we can hold our ground.

[fresh cairn]

Plus turn cap

Dozer is trash

[remote kiln]

never run with dozer

your legs are exposed

[next onyx]

Unless you have to.

[plain hamlet]

ooh i see

[next onyx]

His shield only barely covers your sides too.

[fresh cairn]

Literally a throw pick tbh

[onyx mica]

yep shoot legs the one with no armor on

[plain hamlet]

i really wanna like him, but he feels very underwhelming compared to others tbh

[onyx mica]

just like in other games

[fresh cairn]

Shield rework will either make him viable or broken as fuck

[onyx mica]

if i use tank i would drop the shell not on the shield

[next onyx]

As long as we can extended its sides and in turn we cannot run that'd be fine.

[fresh cairn]

He gets a flat 50% explosive reduction any way

[remote kiln]

the shell hit isnt guaranteed to kill even if you dont hit the shield

[plain hamlet]

honestly i think making the shield having a huge damage reduction would work

[next onyx]

Flak jacket helps a lot.

[remote kiln]

the shield blocks fragmentation from the shell explosives if aimed

[onyx mica]

might need 2 times

i usually do it like that

[fresh cairn]

So give him even more explosive reduction wot

[plain hamlet]

or the shield itself completely covering him, but it has hit points and it has to “heal” for a lil bit after or sum

[fresh cairn]

It does completely cover him if you crouch and don't move

[plain hamlet]

rn he’s only viable for hazard zone to block the extract lmao

[plain hamlet]

yeah but when do you actually do that

[next onyx]

That reminds me how the shield on hardline had limited durability.

[fresh cairn]

I don't cause he's trash

[next onyx]

I can imagine scenarios when Dozer's shield works but it's more niche than anything else.

[fresh cairn]

Just give it hp and when it breaks it's a 30 second cool down

[hasty hound]

Why is the shut down game mode trash

[fresh cairn]

Everyone that plays him justs plays like a 89 year old war vet with PTSD

[plain hamlet]

his passive is pretty useful tho, with the amount of explosive damage in the game

[next onyx]

You're playing shutdown, You'd know why you'd hate it.

Bad teammates really do hurt on that mode.

[fresh cairn]

I like it tbh

[next onyx]

It's fun.

[plain hamlet]

this

[fresh cairn]

Shitters make it pain but I like