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#battlefield-2042
carmine rover
limber orbit
not really since im currently trying to T1 stuff
fervent rose
i use a fair amount of different guns though
but not the bottom of the pile stuff
many of the vault guns feel terrible
and i hate the inconsistent reflex sights on them
carmine rover
the m416 is the best vault gun
edgy oriole
i thought about using the mcs the other day for the giggles but changed my mind
hazy plume
Do the m1a5 and t28 share kills?
next onyx
No.
hazy plume
Bout to say I got everything on both and only played t28 do fsr
next onyx
When I got aps it did that.
hazy plume
Are there any other who share attachments?
fervent rose
no i dont think so
next onyx
Possibly the attack helisand stealths
edgy oriole
i think all specific vehicles are conjoined or was it only tanks
fervent rose
oh yea maybe the stealths
pretty sure apache and hokum have different stuff so idk if they share
low timber
Only the RU attack heli has one extra module, the dual 30mm cannons
fervent rose
you dont have to say imo there
hybrid totem
and it has a smaller profile than the apache, so it's overall superior
fervent rose
that is a bogus design
hybrid totem
plus it's more manueverable
fervent rose
asymmetrical vehicle balance is so lame and it happens in so many bf games
hybrid totem
but goddamn I feel like a bigger badass in the apache
fervent rose
i'd use pp2000 more if it didnt sound like a weak airsoft gun
fresh lintel
AK74S Iron sights have no right being so good
rocky kraken
no like actually
dice needs to do a complete animation overhaul
for portal weps
and movement
its indie level animation imo
fervent rose
ripple effect animation in portal is a definite step down
but DICE also lost their main animator so they are fucked
fresh lintel
Too be fair they ported the guns over.
From older games.
So somethings bound to be bad
arctic grove
but DICE also lost their main animator so they are fucked
The one back after Season 1 right? Honestly anims since then for AOW stuff hasn’t been bad
fervent rose
@arctic grove i dont recall on when but i agree that the aow stuff since is fine, but who knows how much of that is old work
arctic grove
Oh true
AOW stuff is okay but even that stuff takes a massive backseat to BF1/V animations
rocky kraken
naw bro, i expect before the game is complete, for them to redo all vault wep animations and even portal animations. Kinda like what pubg did
and sound
game is dropped* i ment
sour meadow
arctic grove
naw bro, i expect before the game is complete, for them to redo all vault wep an...
That level of dedication to the presentation of the game is just as important as gameplay itself imo
rocky kraken
all look and feel the same for some reason, and also PLEASE fix the textures of portal weps
arctic grove
Because you spend like half of your time in a fps with the gun on the side of your screen. Might as well take time to make it look nice
rocky kraken
they ALL have the same texture/color
its just bland
like a91 and m4 feels and sounds the same, meanwhile all aow weps sound and feel differnt
hoping that comes with the skin update for vault weps
spiral folio
Its really weird how inconsistent they go
Maybe its best they never add the m95
Since they'll just ruin it
With how bad the m39 recoils
The m95 will probably fly behind you 10 feet and you'll have to go get it
next onyx
It'll just act like the bad co 2 m95 with low damage towards lighter vehicles but with its high velocity can be good for aiming for the head.
M98b would be cool to see though.
spiral folio
The only sight options will be a hastily welded on 9mm wrench head and a paperclip
It'll only get 3 mags of 10
And recoil so bad you drop it occasionally
limber orbit
you'll have to hold onto the mag so it doesnt fall out
spiral folio
And your character will make an audible yelp
limber orbit
we gon get them fallout 4 pipe weapon scopes
spiral folio
S7 is post nuclear
royal swan
Should be seeing more discarded this month
And possibly we get the new rework at the end of this month
limber orbit
they discarded the changes 
royal swan
Discarded has some great areas
royal swan
But all the open areas just places it lower on the list of maps
edgy oriole
discarded 128 bt map was fine in my eyes. they just needed to cut out maybe 100m of the 500m deadspace between points
each deadspace*
royal swan
I miss the first breakthrough layout of discarded
They need to focus the upper part of the map more
edgy oriole
add trenches between sector a and b. make a1 and a2 closer.
maybe add some other flair but it was a solid map i though
next onyx
Nah thats how you want it to be
I don't speak how I want it performing, how I'm speaking is literally it's performance from bad co 2.
royal swan
I want the discarded layout of bt to start at the upper part of the map going back down to the submarine, then across in that slightly open area, then finish it in the flooded town
limber orbit
using the upper area would be nice
edgy oriole
that would be cool too
royal swan
It's like this big storage like area
If you played the first bt layout of discarded you would know what I'm talking about
limber orbit
oh right that warehouse area was one of the points
low timber
If you played the first bt layout of discarded you would know what I'm talking a...
I miss the village area
edgy oriole
with how big the maps they made they couldve made like 3 variants of each map to add into matchmaking too.
limber orbit
dunno why they made it so "linear" now
royal swan
I'm not sure where the scrap yard will be so
The third sector stays the same
Had no problem with the third sector
The last will definitely be the flooded town
limber orbit
they could prolly rearrange the map a little in general
royal swan
That flooded town CARRIES the map
limber orbit
now the warehouses are the US spawn in CQ which is a shame
royal swan
One of the best areas in the game
royal swan
now the warehouses are the US spawn in CQ which is a shame
Oh really
edgy oriole
the town was fire. it had the destruction. the flanks. the good defense.
royal swan
It was a good area, whyyyyy
limber orbit
the flooded town is a fun inf fighting area with the occasional crazy vehicle
royal swan
I want the sub to fall
limber orbit
heres hoping the rework well utilize the warehouses again
royal swan
And the sub
limber orbit
that would be cool tbh
royal swan
We need a suburban area, a mountain map, water map, and a industrial map
limber orbit
a suburban area would be cool
royal swan
Flashpoint and spearhead doesn't work for industrial
limber orbit
we need a map inspired by the exodus trailer
royal swan
Don't care if people hate water maps, this is battlefield, every battlefield game had a water map
limber orbit
breakaway had a mountain until they took that section out lol
carmine rover
I love dropping 93 kills in Breakthrough. having the most kills in the game. and winning the round and not being credited at the end
i lost to someone with 4 captures/defends
limber orbit
yikes
carmine rover
im going to kms
limber orbit
well dude obviously did better than you
carmine rover
joke)
royal swan
flashpoint is both a mountain and industrial map?
Mountain like you fight on the mountain
carmine rover
well dude obviously did better than you
ur so right. i should just get better
limber orbit
like fjell?
royal swan
Think of that snowy bfv map
limber orbit
fuck i hated that map
hybrid totem
...I'm confused. What would you call the geographical nature of Flashpoint?
carmine rover
I love dropping 93 kills in Breakthrough. having the most kills in the game. and...
oh not to mention. i did it with the NTW 50
its a desert
hybrid totem
It's pretty clearly the top of a mountain
royal swan
...I'm confused. What would you call the geographical nature of Flashpoint?
Rocky
Hilly
It's definitely not mountain
Exposure is cliff
Not talking about atmosphere or the look of the map, talking about the map you fight on.
hybrid totem
I have no idea what a mountain is
royal swan
Hold on
hybrid totem
oh I see, you want extreme verticality
but not exposure
could you even climb that mountain?
limber orbit
fjell?
hybrid totem
yeah
hybrid totem
the china rising map that everyone complained about being too big?
guilin peaks
The one with only the transpo chopper
limber orbit
that map wasnt big
hybrid totem
yeah I'm thinking of the other one, where you could cap points and get extra AAs
can't rightly recall the name
Oh Altai Range
also Dragon Pass
yeah I loved those two
hybrid totem
ok sure but if you consider locker a "mountain map" but not Flashpoint, I dunno what to tell you
royal swan
You fought inside in a building
limber orbit
it was yea
royal swan
When I mean mountain I mean snowy peaks mountain
limber orbit
wouldnt call flashpoint a mountain map
hybrid totem
I mean it's global warming, how many snowy peaks do you think the world has left
royal swan
Exposure had some in the distance
spare depot
it's 19 years from now, there'll still be plenty of snow
royal swan
On the ground it may be gone
limber orbit
breakaway
spare depot
^
limber orbit
snowy peaks
royal swan
But in the mountains regions
hybrid totem
breakaway is antarctica, literally the last place all the snow would melt
arctic grove
how do i remove attachments from my guns?
spare depot
it's incredible that you cant make your weapon T smaller
i forget what they call it
customization menu thingy
royal swan
I think the plus system should stay as a bf2042 exclusive
limber orbit
if there is 🚫 in the attachment menu you can remove them sorta
mental delta
I think the plus system should stay as a bf2042 exclusive
Yes it's good but it's like specialists, seeing it one time and it's enough for me 
royal swan
Yes
fervent rose
no way to remove it down to 2 once you have 3 choices though
fervent rose
it's one of the sillier ui "we forgot" moments
limber orbit
dood i loved building
royal swan
Does it really need to be in the next bf
limber orbit
just running around like bob the builder
fervent rose
fortifications were a mixed bag, a lot of the stuff should have just started built in bf5
mental delta
Like how bfv had building fortifications
Next BF definitely needs maps with more covers though
limber orbit
plus system prolly could be in the next one
fervent rose
being able to create trenches in theory sounds fun but i'd rather they just exist
the actual time it took to do that wasnt enjoyable in bfv
limber orbit
the longest ones were on the panzer map
mental delta
Basically for the next game they should avoid all the things they made in BF2042 lmao
royal swan
The attachments in bf2042 don't feel special, and the way to get them is boring as hell
fervent rose
also.. allies would constantly built tank traps behind ally tankers
limber orbit
ngl i sometimes build them all
fervent rose
the "build every fortification" player..
god they had no brain
trapping your own team's tanks from resupply
i'd see that every other game
glacial quarry
hehe building hammer go bonk
limber orbit
haha i would build everything sometimes if i wasnt in the mood to run into combat lol
mental delta
the "build every fortification" player..
I liked to play Bob the builder around the map why you gotta judge me ? 
fervent rose
because if you fuck over your team you should be judged
limber orbit
i only fucked with people if they were dicks
royal swan
i only fucked with people if they were dicks
limber orbit
mental delta
because if you fuck over your team you should be judged
Fuck over ?
royal swan
Y'all are weird
limber orbit
hell yeah brother
fervent rose
on breakthrough defense, people would build the tank traps behind allies @mental delta
with zero regard for their team's vehicles
royal swan
Yeah I would rather have no plus system in the next bf
fervent rose
it was a constant thing i noticed
royal swan
Just stick with the setup you made
limber orbit
ye i dont change too much on the fly tbh i do it in the menu
but i mean its a cool system
for a bf
royal swan
It's too abused, you don't rely on teammates as much as previous battlefield titles
fervent rose
the plus system barely matters
limber orbit
i dont rely on my teammates anyways
fervent rose
i dont actually need to change to scope 9/10 games
i dont change barrels
i only change ammo cause i ran out
royal swan
Need ammo, change mag types, wanna kill a guy that's far away, change grip and scope.
fervent rose
the only time i use plus system a lot is with grenade launcher guns
glacial quarry
don't think ive changed anything but ammo for 200 hours
limber orbit
oh ofc the nade launchers too
royal swan
The only thing that is appropriate to change that I have zero problems with is suppressors
That can continue
Everything else can go
limber orbit
The suppression system
glacial quarry
i find it too troublesome to swap to smoke launcher and back just to smoke
so i just use smoke thrown nade
fervent rose
i dont bother with smoke launcher either but i always run HE and AP if its available
fervent rose
and incendiary for dozer players is always fun
they just waddle after you while you change to incendiary in plus
glacial quarry
Compared to the real thing
suppressors yes
but shotguns irl have a lot bigger range than you think
buckshot can be lethal to like 100m
royal swan
Suppressors don't do anything except reduce noise, hell they maybe reduce the recoil as well
Also they are not quite
fervent rose
pretty sure they increase velocity a bit
which ofc is always the opposite in videogames
royal swan
Because they will be op if suppressors were realistically correct
glacial quarry
the main goal of suppressors irl is not to make the shot silent
its to make it extremely hard to tell where the shot came from
a suppressed rifle using normal ammo will still be heard few hundred meters away
royal swan
Well tell that to the inventor
fervent rose
yup
glacial quarry
its still loud af but
if you're getting shot at
its very hard to tell where the shot came from
so suppressors are good in ambushes
royal swan
Who made it to be quiet enough to not annoy the people around his neighborhood
fervent rose
a suppressed rifle using normal ammo will still be heard few hundred meters away
one of the few games to do that well was pubg
glacial quarry
in order for suppressors to be really silent, you need a big suppressor and subsonic ammo which have greatly reduced power and range
fervent rose
that game had really good weapon distance audio
slender hare
guys the BF theme between the breakthrough phases is just so cool
hybrid totem
I think the most discussed dichotomy in this server is "realism vs fun"
limber orbit
people forget its a game sometimes
glacial quarry
fun is more important
hybrid totem
When every bullet is a tracer, what does a silencer do anyway besides remove you from lighting up the minimap
glacial quarry
tbh silencers being super quiet in bf2042 makes it op for flanking
royal swan
Nades
glacial quarry
ive dumped entire pp29 magazines without anyone turning around usually if i do it with an lcmg they turn around after a second
glacial quarry
wdym lol
fervent rose
frag grenades dont cause instant death like 2042 nades
glacial quarry
have u thrown a nade irl those things are lethal up to like 20-30m at least
the sharpnel lethal range is enormous
its not like in games where its only a few meters
royal swan
Nades aren't exploding nothing
glacial quarry
but yeah i dont get why frag nades damage tanks in bf2042
they shouldn't even scratch em
fervent rose
nades are surprisingly random with their shrapnel
so its not like a perfect aoe of death
fervent rose
they are less effective than games/movies make them out to be
glacial quarry
grenades irl have a few thousand steel balls in it
its basically a giant 360 degree shotgun
royal swan
Yep
limber orbit
well it is called a fragmentation grenade after all
royal swan
There is also no fireball
fervent rose
the fire is just movie magic yea
limber orbit
yea
glacial quarry
explosives irl are a LOT more intense
limber orbit
but you know looks cool in games
next onyx
Air pressure too.
royal swan
Also slugs, they are a nightmare in reality
glacial quarry
when i was in basic and doing grenades was seated 100m away approx and the shit hurts your ears, makes your whole body shake
and thats just a small nade
glacial quarry
up close even with ear protection your ears hurt a lot
rocky kraken
needs some improvement but like
glacial quarry
can't imagine in WW1 getting bombarded by artillery
fervent rose
can't imagine in WW1 getting bombarded by artillery
and those were big big bombs
rocky kraken
i think that the event modes should stay in the game
fervent rose
permanent constant shaking from all the blasts, it's no wonder people went mute
shell shocked or whatever
royal swan
Another big offender of shit not even close to reality is the anti material rifle in bf2042
glacial quarry
a small nade already shakes me to the core and hurts through ear protection close up
hybrid totem
Instead of focusing on all the things that are not realistic (basically everything?)
What in this game is realistic?
glacial quarry
yeah no surprise
limber orbit
had a buddy when i was in the army that was in iraq they were out doing a patrol and an explosion was set off beyond wall and one of their guys collapsed due to the pressure from the explosion his insides was mush
royal swan
Instead of focusing on all the things that are not realistic (basically everythi...
Melee
fervent rose
Instead of focusing on all the things that are not realistic (basically everythi...
the shockwave effects they made in 2042 are dope
limber orbit
like the ripple thing?
fervent rose
theres definitely visual stuff that is done more correct to irl in 2042 than old bf games
yea
stuck lava
When are they gonna change the crossplay? PC players should be on their own
limber orbit
damn never noticed that
limber orbit
lol yea i gotta keep an eye out
glacial quarry
as overpowered as the 60mm mortar is its effect on infantry in bf2042 is prob close to what an actual 60mm mortal irl will do
hybrid totem
When are they gonna change the crossplay? PC players should be on their own
never. But you can!
glacial quarry
just minus the giant fireball
royal swan
Oh yeah the 60mm is goated
fervent rose
as overpowered as the 60mm mortar is its effect on infantry in bf2042 is prob cl...
thankfully we dont get bf3 screen shaked
royal swan
Imagine that on a actually mortar equipment
limber orbit
christ
rocky kraken
add mortars
fervent rose
the explosive spam in this game would be unbearable with bf3 screen shake
royal swan
Mortar shells are in the game, but not the mortar
limber orbit
ive talked with people that have used those big mortars and they say its fucking terrible lol
glacial quarry
ive never seen mortars in action before
but any kind of artillery is insane scary irl
limber orbit
yea you barely see mortars in action
glacial quarry
there's a reason artillery is king of the battlefield. the physical and psychological effect on soldiers is unmatched
hybrid totem
I'm surprised people are still complaining about crossplay. It should be apparent by now that crossplay is the new standard because of money
limber orbit
cus you know precision artillery and all that
royal swan
When the mortar shell dud launches and lands on your feet. 
arctic grove
Mortars are definitely still viable, plenty of clips with them being used online in recent conflicts
limber orbit
oh yea
glacial quarry
mortar will never be outphased
fervent rose
I'm surprised people are still complaining about crossplay. It should be appare...
pc players dont like it because they want to play a raw input game. console players dont like it because top 5% pc players dump on them
crossplay will never stop getting complaints
limber orbit
never fast and more portable artillery lol
glacial quarry
mortar and artillery will always be important irl
royal swan
The only expensive thing about mortars is the shell
hybrid totem
I like it because the number of possible players is like, tripled
royal swan
The mortar is just a fucking metal tube
arctic grove
Think of mortars as the slightly more travel and convenient option to artillery
royal swan
If we are talking about the easy to set up mortars
glacial quarry
yep
fervent rose
I like it because the number of possible players is like, tripled
totally unneeded though if the game was good, but 2042 would have died without it
hybrid totem
imagine this - they add mortars. They add range to the mortars because otherwise infantry would never use them. Then they add that range to the vehicle mortars
royal swan
And not the big artillery pieces that will fuck up any location
arctic grove
imagine this - they add mortars. They add range to the mortars because otherwis...
and UCAV
hybrid totem
totally unrelated to what I was saying
royal swan
Bro we need more drones
limber orbit
155spgs in bf when?
arctic grove
totally unneeded though if the game was good, but 2042 would have died without i...
At the very least, I would love if dice gave us a console crossplay only BF, with PC being…
alone…
Not cause of anything I feel about pc tho, was just a curious thought I had once
glacial quarry
drones are doing what mortars are doing in a different way
royal swan
The drone tab holds one drone despite the title of said tab being drones
glacial quarry
i hate that lol
been almost 2 years
still only one drone
and its only use is a distraction
fervent rose
why did they buff the robot dog btw
limber orbit
little less useless
fervent rose
da heck
arctic grove
Thank EA for unrealistic deadlines that ended up fucking the entire game out of more polish and content, now they just add whatever’s most immediately required to be new content
glacial quarry
i do use the ranger a bit but its mainly for distraction
hybrid totem
The reality of crossplay is that the vast majority of people would rather play with their friends regardless of platform. That majority will overwhelm any number of complaints for the forseeable future
But I guess people do love complaining, so neither is going anywhere
glacial quarry
that thing does negative damage
radiant prism
h
royal swan
I feel like the next drone should be a uav
radiant prism
purple :)
arctic grove
h
Give me your regular role now (threat)
You literally got it while being OFFLINE 
hybrid totem
so that's how to do it! Get someone to post your clips until they get tired of it and get you regular role
glacial quarry
add mortar drones
radiant prism
You literally got it while being OFFLINE <:BlackHole_Laugh:801675316388036628>
To be fair I did pester the mods about inconsistent reg stuff and it took like a month
limber orbit
bomb drone when?
glacial quarry
meh
the easiest is just a single use bomb drone
either suicide or drops a mortar
hybrid totem
one attempt, no ammo refills until you die? Yeah I could see that
glacial quarry
yeah
royal swan
Maybe a support drone
glacial quarry
something like casper drone at launch but much less op
radiant prism
I mean wasn’t that just the Casper drone yeah
glacial quarry
casper drone can one shot tanks back then
royal swan
Like the dog but supplies, heals, revives, and repairs
radiant prism
I remember
arctic grove
No, no more anything that’s remotely like OG Casper drone
radiant prism
Yeah the last thing this game needs is more explosive spam
glacial quarry
they should just make it do like 30 dmg max to tanks
and prob about as strong as a frag nade to infantry
arctic grove
Fuck OG Casper drone and any derivitive of it unless it’s anti infantry only
radiant prism
Especially not from drones which people are already lazy enough about shooting
arctic grove
Absolutely not 30 damage lol
Again, fuck og Casper drone, don’t even think to add anything reminiscent of it in general
glacial quarry
yeah mainly anti infantry
fervent rose
just what this game needs, more explosives
glacial quarry
the easiest is just a single use drone
last swift
Like the UCAV in BF4
royal swan
Yeah the last thing this game needs is more explosive spam
When has there EVER been a battlefield with no high intense explosive spam
glacial quarry
equipped with one frag nade. and lasts like 60s so after u drop the nade u can continue spotting etc
hybrid totem
it'll never happen. It would nullify casper
radiant prism
BFV was pretty light as explosive spam goes
fervent rose
@royal swan bfv fixed their explosive spam mid cycle
next onyx
Yeah bf5 was pretty simple.
glacial quarry
its a one time use after all
radiant prism
Way I can stop pestering you about clips now!
fervent rose
bc2 wasn't "explosive spam" like bf3 or current 2042
radiant prism
Well
next onyx
Bf1 had a big change towards the end.
radiant prism
Until I inevitably lose reg again
royal swan
Bf1 was big on explosive spam
This game doesn't even come close to bf1 explosive spam
radiant prism
Yeah as bad as explosive spam can get BF1 was worse
hybrid totem
I want condor pilots to be able to drop mortar shells
royal swan
They don't
hybrid totem
that's why I want them
royal swan
And I hope to god no
fervent rose
the condor has a 40mm grenade launcher
royal swan
The nade launcher is bad enough
hybrid totem
remove the grenade launcher, let me drop mortars
radiant prism
They’re actually replacing the front gun on the Condor/Hind with an automatic SPH launcher
fervent rose
it already bombs the fuck out of points
royal swan
Wiping entire objectives open
hybrid totem
Also they really need to do something about the stealth chopper one-shot bombing the condor. But I'm going to keep doing that until they fix it
hybrid totem
it does, but the hind is a line whereas the condor is an X
So it's twice as easy to do it to the condor
royal swan
Bombs on jets
hybrid totem
yes that too
glacial quarry
add the killstreak point system from bfv back pls
i want to spam V1 rockets again
pine roost
Smoke barrage would be goated
hybrid totem
commander modeeeee
royal swan
add the killstreak point system from bfv back pls
Could be with the squad rework
arctic grove
I feel like squad reinforcements although gave incentive to squad play just got spammed to death and back, especially in breakthrough
fervent rose
they did have that fancy easter egg rocket with the new explosion
arctic grove
They’re maybe not as bad in conquest but since I typically stick to BT in any BF I notice it a LOT there
Makes defending pain
royal swan
I want mortar
Bombs on jets
Sticky nades
limber orbit
ICBMs
royal swan
Defending on exposure is easy
glacial quarry
think i only ever lost one defense on exposure lol
out of like probably 20-30
tank in B1 indoors
royal swan
The only time I lost defending was before the layout change
fervent rose
when you allow the vehicle indoors shenanigans on exposure b1..
void gorge
yes and thanks for the possible solution to the problem because I hadn't even thought about it, but now every now and then another problem has started to happen.. I play on the pc, and when I'm running around the map, I usually press shift for the weapon to stay up and I managed to run faster, but I was playing just now with a different mouse and I pressed shift and the weapon went up but it stayed down again, it could be a problem in the game or in the mouse
radiant prism
Oh?? It’s <time of day> o’clock? Does that mean it’s Dozerposting™️ time?
radiant prism
hybrid totem
my favorite sticky grenades are from the Metro series. Just regular grenades with nails stuck through them
magic bloom
Gecc
radiant prism
Asto
magic bloom
Hi
radiant prism
Hello
royal swan
anti tank nades should come back as well
fervent rose
i agree
hybrid totem
...you mean mines, or sundance nades
royal swan
Large throwables with big boom
fervent rose
engineer and assault should get something just like AT bundle nade from bfv
royal swan
Aren't slams the water mines
eager spire
do you really what the DICE that made 2042 touching BF4, though
do you really want that?
limber orbit
yes and thanks for the possible solution to the problem because I hadn't even th...
i have that happen sometimes too its just an animation bug it usually happens to me when too many animations are happening
hybrid totem
were they? I just used them as mines that would go further when you threw them
royal swan
They were also water mines
hybrid totem
well shit I thought I knew how to play bf4
glacial quarry
yeah they work in water
easy boat kills on paracel storm
just put them in shallow water chokepoints
glacial quarry
you can also stick em sideways on walls
royal swan
I never understood the throwable flares
hybrid totem
flares were the only counter to thermals
glacial quarry
counters thermals
royal swan
Ooh
glacial quarry
also makes it super annoying for both enemy and you to see
btw u can get kills with hand flares
hybrid totem
yeah even without thermals lol
pine roost
I never understood the throwable flares
Blinds thermal scopes
royal swan
THAT NO ONE WILL USE
glacial quarry
if you shoot a M2 slam once with a suppressed DMR, then throw a flare on it, it blows up and if the explosion kills someone u get a hand flare kill
pine roost
Like torches do
radiant prism
limber orbit
i love it when dozer says its dozering time and then transforms into a shield
royal swan
Flares depend on the enemy's choice of scope, so a bit useless until someone uses thermals
hybrid totem
when every vehicle ran thermals, yo ucould pretty much bet they'd have a purpose
Thermal was so prevalent they released a special camouflage to counter it
royal swan
Gotta wait until they add thermals to vehicles
hybrid totem
oh I can't wait. You think people complain about vehicles NOW
limber orbit
err body gonna be running emp nades
pine roost
As much as I use thermals on tanks in bf4, adding them here just seems unnecessary
Visibility is so much better
fervent rose
thermals wont be an issue if its a button with a fair cooldown
royal swan
Nope gotta add thermals
fervent rose
bf4 thermals were simply not fair
next onyx
Make them not work beyond 20 metres.
royal swan
Or just throw smoke
limber orbit
its gonna get yucked by all the emp stuff
next onyx
Thermals just brain dead overall.
royal swan
Just use smoke
hybrid totem
As much as I use thermals on tanks in bf4, adding them here just seems unnecessa...
kind of like thermals on guns
pine roost
I can’t really see any reason not to run thermals on guns
hybrid totem
thermals wont be an issue if its a button with a fair cooldown
it won't be
royal swan
The smoke screen on vehicles will counter it
pine roost
Unless you need a specific zoom level
next onyx
Don't feel like vehicles need thermals in the first place.
fervent rose
yes but they made pretty special effects
low timber
Way, when you did that bot match, was it crossplay on or off?
fervent rose
so they want to add them to vehicles
next onyx
On.
radiant prism
fervent rose
the 2042 thermals look great, you cant blame them
pine roost
If they add thermals that have no clarity drop off over distance, railgun tanks will have free reign to be even more brainless
limber orbit
the one where he picks up the shield and slams it to the ground is my fave intro lol
next onyx
Thermals on the tor yeah no.
low timber
That Liquidator headgear for Dozer is just like Half Life Combine.
radiant prism
fervent rose
Thermals on the tor yeah no.
that i hope isnt a thing
radiant prism
That Liquidator headgear for Dozer is just like Half Life Combine.
heheh, pick up that can
low timber
And this season pass even has a shock stick
hybrid totem
honestly the TOR is the only vehicle that wouldn't benefit from thermals
fervent rose
but for the ram and mbts thermals will be fine if it isnt bf4 thermals
hybrid totem
since the engagement range is o far
radiant prism
And this season pass even has a shock stick
next onyx
Thermals have infinite range.
low timber
Lis didn’t pick up the can
next onyx
And they'll definitely benefit from it.
pine roost
honestly the TOR is the only vehicle that wouldn't benefit from thermals
Depends on how it’s implemented. If it just highlights people perfectly regardless of range then you won’t even need to spot people
limber orbit
when the combine have had a enough
hybrid totem
Yes but I would rather have the zoom on ranges that far. Not like it's hard to see enemies in this game
fervent rose
i hope tank thermals are first person only
pine roost
It’s just aim at the bright red glow
royal swan
The Tor is only good at vehicle killing
radiant prism
also I'm sorry for the gif spam I'm trying to add these to my favorites
royal swan
Most player kills are done when they are mostly stationary
hybrid totem
The Tor is only good at vehicle killing
I have killed many a sniper with it
next onyx
Look at yellow / white vehicle and destroy it. You don't need zoom.
hybrid totem
You're right, but that's not how I play
drowsy shuttle
Battlefield 2042 is probably the only shooter where having the low ground is better than the high ground. Its easier to snipe/headshot people on roofs than shooting people from the roofs to the ground.
fervent rose
tor can kill infantry just fine, its more mobile than the regular tanks
but its hard work compared to a regular mbt
way harder since its mostly HMG'ing
royal swan
The Tor doesn't have splash so it can't kill infantry just fine, or as easy as the other vehicles
hybrid totem
And very often you get one of them useless gunners in your TOR that makes pushing impossible
royal swan
Almost negligible
limber orbit
yup
fervent rose
tor for pushing is just awful compared to HE mbt
royal swan
You can kill infantry if movement is predictable or stationary
radiant prism
ok last one
limber orbit
thats the best one
hybrid totem
TOR is fien for pushing, if you have a good gunner
royal swan
ok last one
If only the bit rate wasn't garbage
pine roost
The world needs more good gunners
hybrid totem
dual machine guns from an armored target are really effective, with infantry around you
radiant prism
If only the bit rate wasn't garbage
yeah I need a better gif converter
pine roost
Ones that actually cover your rear rather than shooting what you are already looking at
limber orbit
i enjoy being gunner
fervent rose
dual machine guns from an armored target are really effective, with infantry aro...
well yea but you can have that with two bonus explosives in a regular tank
pine roost
i enjoy being gunner
Gunner’s fun
royal swan
Wildcat needs a buff in bullet speed
fervent rose
on bt attack running tor makes very little sense
pine roost
There’s so much satisfaction in protecting the tank from a flanker
limber orbit
100
hybrid totem
well yea but you can have that with two bonus explosives in a regular tank
I'm not the kind of player to do one thing all game. I'll post up and kill vehicles, then help the infantry push
radiant prism
hybrid totem
well yeah, BT is a totally different strategy always
pine roost
And even better when the driver has the competency of a decent tanker and actually appreciates the help
radiant prism
actual mp encounter btw
pine roost
I remember back in bf1 I was a gunner for someone in a plane and we decimated
Got the clip somewhere I think
hybrid totem
The number of TOR gunners I've had that don't even use the EMP nade... ugh
limber orbit
i change seats if the tank gunner seats arent full to provide full service
hybrid totem
Then they steal it
radiant prism
also this happened and it might be the strangest bug I've seen recently
(clip has no audio btw)
royal swan
limber orbit
@pine roost that is some nice aim ngl
fresh lintel
Exposure breakthrough elevator stuff is fun
royal swan
Game needs more indirect fire
limber orbit
wish mine was that good back in bf1 playing plane gunner lol
i keep forgetting that the TOR gunner has the emp nade
you can just roll any tank if you have a gunner using that
pine roost
My aim’s improved so much since then too, but I’m surprised how well I did back then
Got some battlefield playlists on that channel, my bfV clips are mostly snipes or wacky infantry stuff
Might do what way does and make a compilation video of them
limber orbit
my aim has deff also improved quite a bit
royal swan
The bombs on planes should give a bigger explosion than the 60mm
next onyx
Might do what way does and make a compilation video of them
O like a compilation of random shit?
E.g cancer and clips?
next onyx
Haha.
onyx mica
i like flipping over wildcats, tor and tanks
limber orbit
battering ramming shit is good fun
next onyx
I'd love to see how far your aim has come in seriousness.
glacial quarry
https://youtu.be/GxPqfStbqfs made a little lcmg frag movie a while ago if anyone is interested
fervent rose
the bolte ram into mines is a classic
pine roost
Although in all honesty I like being able to just pick and choose certain clips rather than having to go through a 40 minute long vid 
onyx mica
i threw emp grenade to the mines that enemy bolte put on the ground when he passed through it again and he died
pine roost
Didn’t realise streams and videos had such a long cool down
limber orbit
dude just driving in front of people and shit out some mines and they chase is fun af
pine roost
Man I do miss playing bfV
Got it after that Amazon deal, back when I had the motivation to play. I was on it every day
fervent rose
i wish bfv wasnt hacked out, that really made the game frustrating
pine roost
Sniping was an absolute blast
radiant prism
1.2k hours on BFV here yeah
pine roost
Got my first hackusation from sniping in bfV :3
radiant prism
but I'm already approaching 700 on 2042
onyx mica
only thing i liked about bfv is the ending song
fervent rose
i loved tac conquest and the cheaters also loved it
limber orbit
god the hackers man they were so uncreative lol
fervent rose
very painful
next onyx
Although in all honesty I like being able to just pick and choose certain clips ...
LOL I promised I've learned from that!!!
limber orbit
just in spawn with lewis gun or enfield slapping people
next onyx
They're only 10 minutes now!!!
pine roost
I noticed lol
fervent rose
just in spawn with lewis gun or enfield slapping people
yea it was to the point where i just realized i could get in a vehicle to have anti cheat in most situations
pine roost
Well that’s that then, tomorrow after work I’ll get some clips recorded
Watching back some of mine now, off topic but I absolutely love the ability to shoot grenades mid air
One of the coolest things they’ve done
next onyx
It's cool!
limber orbit
yea it was to the point where i just realized i could get in a vehicle to have a...
ye so dumb
pine roost
I can see why I love uktrakill so much 
ivory canopy
I got to try BFV during the free month of Origin Access.
next onyx
Did you know p2 just came out?
pine roost
Act2 part 2?
ivory canopy
I got to try BFV during the free month of Origin Access.
To be honest I wasn't a fan of it.
pine roost
Didn’t know it came out already but I knew it was in the works
limber orbit
not for everyone
onyx mica
To be honest I wasn't a fan of it.
yes you should play bf 2042 instead
limber orbit
stationary weapons came in clutch sometimes
fervent rose
i cant believe im saying this.. i miss towables
royal swan
stationary weapons came in clutch sometimes
Always come in clutch
Biggest threat to the air as well
limber orbit
ye
royal swan
Once we get stationary aa turrets the transport is fucked
pine roost
I would kill for the marksman revolver to be added to battlefield
Replace the XM as the corner clearer
ivory canopy
Wouldn't it be beastly if Boris sentry was actually a decent AA?
fervent rose
Once we get stationary aa turrets the transport is fucked
we need TOW for tanks too
ivory canopy
Might give Boris a use?
royal swan
And at cannons
fervent rose
this game's lack of defender weaponry is so lame
ivory canopy
But I wasn't a fan of BFV. I hated the UI (especially in the menus) and the revive system was awkward for me.
fervent rose
you get less vehicles every sector and no stationary guns
glacial quarry
boris is so damn useless they should give him an actual useful passive
fervent rose
he should get bonus rocket ammo
limber orbit
gotta be honest i liked defending on panzerstorm
fervent rose
EZ
next onyx
@pine roost Prime sanctum. The hardest level in the game and its so much damn fun.
pine roost
My my
limber orbit
tanks rolling in and people on the AT guns
fervent rose
i'd play boris if he had 6 max gustav
royal swan
At guns were my fav
onyx mica
never played boris but i don't like his turret
next onyx
Gruelling arenas, Sisyphus prime. Lots of blood.
glacial quarry
his turret is absolute dogshit lol
royal swan
You could stop an enemy advance with one at gun
limber orbit
lol yea
ivory canopy
Yeah I'm not a fan of using that turret.
next onyx
he should get bonus rocket ammo
Why not bonus explosives? 1+6 rocket ammo / 5 mines or c4.
ivory canopy
It doesn't seem to me like it works.
pine roost
his turret is absolute dogshit lol
As it should be
next onyx
With his turret always on and only targeting vehicles.
Therefore they can balance it around that.
fervent rose
Why not bonus explosives? 1+6 rocket ammo / 5 mines or c4.
i think "launcher specialist" is a cool fit for him
ivory canopy
i think "launcher specialist" is a cool fit for him
I agree, actually.
next onyx
Yeah I can see that.
pine roost
Tbf that sounds alright
ivory canopy
Sentry passive is dog
glacial quarry
but his turret is still useless
royal swan
Bro if they added the stationary at guns in this game, I'ma bet my left ass cheek that there will be a bunch of whiny bitch babies crying over how op the at gun is
fervent rose
his turret doesnt need to be any better
just give him a real passive like launcher specialist
next onyx
Lis is good because she has two useful gadgets.
ivory canopy
Lis is really good tbh
fervent rose
yea being able to run launcher + mine or c5 is a bit much
compared to how bad boris is
next onyx
Boris and crawford have useless primaries and only sought for javelin and m5.
ivory canopy
Can 1HKO jets and mostattack helos
next onyx
If Boris's sentry targeted vehicles and only them meaning it could be balanced around it he would actually be pretty decent.
pine roost
Well it seems to be more designed around that now
pine roost
If it pinged a vehicle it spots (no silhouette track mind you), then that would tie in with his kit and allow him to take on that vehicle since he knows where it is
next onyx
Like hell. If the only way to turn it on was with laser designation I'd be on board with that.
Or if the turret designated...
Hold on..
limber orbit
the gears are turning
next onyx
HAHAHA THAT WOULD BE BUSTED.
fervent rose
can you force the turret to target your pings..
glacial quarry
give boris passive repair
fervent rose
that would be cool
next onyx
But yeah if you could control the sentry more that'd help.
If it designated what it saw that'd be the nastiest combo with the javelin.
drowsy shuttle
his mere presence repairs everything
You are on to something... make boris sentry a automatic repair station... similar to blasco's jammer... with a radious... but repairs stuff instead..
pine roost
Tank camping go brr
glacial quarry
Irish aps+blasco jammer+repair sentry tank camping
glacial quarry
or how about let boris remote operate vehicle turrets
limber orbit
yes
drowsy shuttle
Irish aps+blasco jammer+repair sentry tank camping
Well maybe improve a bit lis rockets and m5 recoiless i dunno
pine roost
New passive - everyone around him shuts up
ivory canopy
Remote operation of the sentry would be great tbh
glacial quarry
like you can look at a friendly tank, then remote operate the gun/mortar turret
without actually being in the tank
limber orbit
lol
glacial quarry
limber orbit
rao but engineer
fervent rose
they would probably create 2500 bugs making that system @glacial quarry
void gorge
i have that happen sometimes too its just an animation bug it usually happens to...
but it would be good to say/and fix these details as soon as possible, as this could discourage someone from playing, and the new bf is now very fun so much so that I, for example, play about 4 games in a row
ivory canopy
Masterkey on SWS-10 though
drowsy shuttle
They will never find a solution for boris... just get rid of his turret and create something else
ivory canopy
Ehh, I think there is a place for a turret, but it needs a rework
glacial quarry
crawford shouldnt be surviving when his turret gets hit by a tank shell
limber orbit
but it would be good to say/and fix these details as soon as possible, as this c...
agreed luckily its just an animation thing i think without 100 percent knowing
glacial quarry
so many times i HE shell a crawford turret head on and he doesnt die
ivory canopy
But idk. Now that I think, remote control sentry would be too close to Crawford tbh
drowsy shuttle
Ehh, I think there *is* a place for a turret, *but* it needs a rework
It will be either OP or UP ... black or white.. theres no gray/balanced area
glacial quarry
only if my shell goes in between the gap
no it doesnt work
the sentry gun blcoks the hmg still
unless they sit for like over 3s
glacial quarry
hard to sometimes when theyre usually elevated
i just try to headshot them with the shell
copper ice
how tf is your he not killing crawford turret
glacial quarry
it doesnt destroy it
it does like 61 dmg i think
and 72 to the guy operating it
copper ice
fervent rose
how tf is your he not killing crawford turret
they did recently buff its hp
i believe
and somebody in this chat argued with me that it would make no difference
glacial quarry
its made of vibranium
copper ice
so instead of making it better at actually killing anything, they just made it harder for tanks to kill it
glacial quarry
just like dozers shield
copper ice
if dice devs continue their current form of balance in one year everything will have 700 health
copper ice
5 bucks says two sph kill whoevers using it
fervent rose
sph is like, yea fuck it just let everyone explode for a few months
ivory canopy
When I finish getting the T1 on the SWS-10, I'll have finished the last of the bolt actions.
copper ice
saving the best for last
ivory canopy
saving the best for last
You're not wrong. The Masterkey on it is goated.
copper ice
tfw they already toned it down and its still insanely good
sws with masterkey was genuinely the most fun i had playing 2042
more of a shotgun with sniper attachment
glacial quarry
i feel like sph blast radius is the same as HE tank shell
fervent rose
masterkey is way better than mcs now
ivory canopy
It's just the options that the setup gives you.
copper ice
it is fucking insane how bad mcs is
glacial quarry
try the aek underbarrel 40mm buckshot. it one shots to like 25 meters lol
ivory canopy
try the aek underbarrel 40mm buckshot. it one shots to like 25 meters lol
Yeah and it gives kills to the M416
glacial quarry
its like 3x more powerful than masterkey probably
fervent rose
isnt it slower firing
fervent rose
so it probably does have crazy range ya
copper ice
40MM BUCKSHOT
WHY ISN'T THE MCS THIS
An opportunity for fun and instead we get the shittest pump action in the entire franchise
ivory canopy
I was using that while using the AEK and it gave me a T4 badge for the M416 for some weird reason.
copper ice
in a game where the maps are also incredibly hostile to the idea of shotguns
fervent rose
yea the mcs is never going to be a great choice most of the time
fervent rose
i'm surprised it isnt another model37
glacial quarry
imagine if it was as strong as bf4 mcs
copper ice
its one thing for it to be situational, but then its just dogshit on top of having no range
slow as fuck rof, consistently fails to ohk, piss poor range in a game with 100m AR beamers
fervent rose
and the 12m farms twice as hard as mcs ever could
copper ice
the masterkey is everything you could actually want from the mcs and its a fucking ATTACHMENT
ivory canopy
ikr
fervent rose
12m just mows em down on a cqb situation
ivory canopy
Mind you, in BF4 I used the M26 to unlock shotguns
fervent rose
stranded shutdown 12m is a laugh
onyx mica
shotgun..
glacial quarry
12m needs a nerf
fresh lintel
Then the S22 goes "20m 75 HP? You're dead in one shot :^)"
glacial quarry
to fire rate, mag size or damage
copper ice
i still find 12m inconsistent as well but it makes up for it due to not dogshit rof and 20 mag
glacial quarry
20 round with full auto is cringe
copper ice
12m feels pretty ass to use until you unlock bigmag
fresh lintel
I agree. That mag makes pushing the range a non risk
fresh lintel
Should increase the mag by 2.
ivory canopy
I have 300 kills with each shotgun in the game.
fresh lintel
Thats itm
copper ice
2.5x increase
fervent rose
yea the drum mag is required for 12m operation
glacial quarry
12M auto lets mid af players be good at cqb
fervent rose
ammo box also
ivory canopy
I was not a fan of the S22
fervent rose
you need an ammo box for 12m to really shine
onyx mica
I have 300 kills with each shotgun in the game.
i can kill nothing with any shotgun, only gun i can not use in any game
copper ice
ammo box is less necessary when you get half your mag back per person killed
fresh lintel
S22 is my favourite. Its range is busted
copper ice
simply keep eating corpses
fervent rose
@copper ice but then you're taking more risks on positioning just for ammo
copper ice
which again, is another stupid way to balance
fervent rose
ammo box lets it eat
ivory canopy
The 12M auto is good simply because of how it's set up.
copper ice
<@1011394572846366812> but then you're taking more risks on positioning just for...
if i dont hold w i will die
please to understand
glacial quarry
doesnt the suppressor increase the 12m’s range too
fervent rose
you cant always hold w they have a out of bounds border
glacial quarry
or decrease spread
fervent rose
you can only go back in and out sometimes
ivory canopy
doesnt the suppressor increase the 12m’s range too
Does it really?
copper ice
you cant always hold w they have a out of bounds border
thats exactly where they dont expect you!
onyx mica
angel with a shotgun..
fervent rose
angel is also good yea
onyx mica
i like that song
fresh lintel
Falk with a shotgun
ivory canopy
angel with a shotgun..
He does it again
copper ice
and having an ammo box lets me repeek it every time <@1011394572846366812>
this is evil though
fervent rose
falck 12m is a cqb powerhouse
copper ice
you are evil
fresh lintel
I prefer the S22 and Bizon PP but Falk is great
onyx mica
i don't play angel too
copper ice
it apparently tightens the spread or something
They might have fucked it up with a patch, but old sym stats say suppressor drops range
ivory canopy
(yes, I actually do have the beanie)
glacial quarry
pp29 is straight up the best cqb weapon
copper ice
besides, suppressor means no short barrel
fervent rose
you are evil
i do have an over 30 kd on irish since i started tanking on him so maybe
copper ice
why the fuck would you give shotgun a short barrel
ivory canopy
I have T1 on PP29 actually
glacial quarry
my crawford kpm is higher than mackay cos tank