battlefield-2042

[lunar finch]

it was

[hybrid totem]

X to doubt

[eager spire]

Sliding was the only unique movement mechanic BF1 had. I don't care if a WW1 game didn't need movement, it was still a fun addition to the game that added a skill gap, and it should've stayed there.

[magic bloom]

It feels like your lighter on your feet than in 2019

[slender isle]

I absolutely adore the movement in chess though

[fresh lintel]

Competitive Battlefield is like Competitive Planetside to me

It doesnt exist (even if it did or does) and I mostly treat it like a joke

[sleek thistle]

if they made a battle royale out of this game it would be the same

[arctic grove]

Conceptual lean was clunky and spots where you could do it were never viable, manual lean was the best balance but in general leaning is hard to balance

[hybrid totem]

Context-specific leaning was amazing

[lunar finch]

^^^

[slender isle]

Would it really? Would it really be the same?

[sleek thistle]

literally

same movement lol

[slender isle]

tf is that even meant to mean

[white sparrow]

It's non-existent now but it was quite something at one point

[sleek thistle]

tell me something that is in the MW 2019 movement thats not in BF2042

[slender isle]

we just went through it not having the same movement

[eager spire]

Competitive BF gameplay can definitely exist, and it can be very interesting to watch. The mechanics are there for the most part, as well as the players.

[white sparrow]

One of the best competitive players ever recently passed away too

[eager spire]

slide cancelling.

[white sparrow]

jordy1-1

[sleek thistle]

it is.

[slender isle]

Slide cancelling

[eager spire]

it's not in 2042.

[eager spire]

no it's not.

[sleek thistle]

slide cancelling is in 2042

[eager spire]

no it's not.

[slender isle]

you can jump out of the slide in 2042

[sleek thistle]

i do it all the time bruh

[eager spire]

that's not slide cancelling.

[slender isle]

but that's not the same as MW19

[fresh lintel]

I imagine so. But I cant see a game like Battlefield ever having a competitive scene because of what it is as a game.

[fervent rose]

its not the same mechanic

[sleek thistle]

bro

[white sparrow]

Bf1 it was huge

[sleek thistle]

slide, jump to slide again and go faster

[eager spire]

I can definitely see it being a thing if DICE would invest in it.

[fervent rose]

you can definitely stop a slide whenever you want in 2042, but it isnt the same thing as cod

[sleek thistle]

literally the same thing

[eager spire]

that's not slide cancelling.

[arctic grove]

Incursions would’ve put battlefield in a good spot for comp play

[white sparrow]

There were 16v16 and 32v32 platoon versus platoon

[eager spire]

you don't know what it is.

[sleek thistle]

then what is it

define it

[slender isle]

They did

like 20 messages up

[white sparrow]

In bfv the comp scene died back, then in 2042 it completely died

[eager spire]

Slide Cancelling is an unintended mechanic that was in Modern Warfare 2019, where you initiated a slide, and then while the slide animation was playing, you repeated the slide input, cancelling the slide mid animation, allowing you to ADS and shoot immediately.

What you described is not slide cancelling.

[arctic grove]

Can only break 2042 slide by jumping iirc

Then the small ads delay in between so eeh

[sleek thistle]

mostly used to go faster

[eager spire]

okay but my point still stands

[slender isle]

ADS delay and shoot delay

[eager spire]

what you described is not slide cancelling.

[fresh lintel]

I mean kinda same with Planetside. Its just now the "Competitive" scene for Planetside is fucking off to a private server that you need permission to join. Permission from players. Who all know eachother.

And they banned like 80% of the tools and weapons.

[slender isle]

I don't think MW19 has a shoot delay from sprint

[fervent rose]

you cant use slide in 2042 to reproduce "mw19 slide canceling"

they work differently

[eager spire]

I mean, if shit's not balanced, it doesn't need to be present in a competitive setting.

[slender isle]

2042 does have a version of tac sprint. However it is only similar in animation, as you sprint forever, with only a 15% increase in speed

[fervent rose]

mostly due to the slowdown from 2042 slide

[sleek thistle]

slide cancelling was a glitch that became a feature™

[magic bloom]

Lmao this Paik Is so mad i killed them with a Shotgun

[slender isle]

So really MW19 and 2042 only similarity is you can sprint, prone, crouch, and jump

[eager spire]

eh. not really. IW hated it. They hated it so much that they removed all trace of it in MW22

[sleek thistle]

most used for going faster and being harder to hit

[eager spire]

because it went against what they thought the game should've played like.

But like i said, what you described was not slide cancelling.

[sleek thistle]

nothing that couldn't have been done in MW19

[sleek thistle]

its literally on the internet

[eager spire]

you can be wrong on the internet as well, it's not impossible.

[sleek thistle]

so you're right and 90% of the internet is wrong

[fresh lintel]

Thats the thing. Not all of it was unbalanced. And there was like counters to alot of things.

Like a thing called the MAX. It had 5 different counters. But the comp scene never wanted to switch classes to counter it.

[eager spire]

Yes.

I literally just described why.

[sleek thistle]

"It's a mechanic that has become essential in Warzone and is vital across all maps. Slide canceling enables players to swiftly get around the map, a lot faster than just simply sprinting, as well as making you a more-slippery target in a gunfight."

[eager spire]

Well, what is the MAX, and what are the counters? And what are the playercounts for Planetside Competitive?

[eager spire]

It was unintended. It was clearly something IW were not happy with.

[prisma jacinth]

whatever prize the winner of this argument gets must be pretty amazing

[fervent rose]

it's not an essential feature for cod, though. its just a mw2019 thing

[sleek thistle]

but they kept it

[fervent rose]

cod was great before slide canceling

[sleek thistle]

so its a feature

[eager spire]

not for MW22

They just were not able to fix it for MW19 and Warzone.

[sleek thistle]

MW22 isnt the same game

[fresh lintel]

The MAX is essentially a Infantry tank. An exo suit. It had weapons that could one shot on one faction (Shotguns) and then the other two had Miniguns or the like (Plasma.. Miniguns?)

It just got nerfed, its nerf was it cant be revived. Since it was technically a infantry class.

[sleek thistle]

if they were unhappy with it, they would just fix it

but its a feature™

[eager spire]

It's the same game on a newer engine. A more idealized version of what IW wanted MW19 to be like.

[fresh lintel]

But the counters consist of: AV nades. Tank mines. C4 (every class except infiltrators get C4), Rockets and a Anti Materiel rifle.

The AMR 2 shots the MAX.

[sleek thistle]

thats why everyone says its worse? 😳

[fervent rose]

well it is a bad game after all

but not because of slide canceling

[eager spire]

I can see why it was banned just from the fact that it could oneshot.

[fresh lintel]

The MAX also cost 450 Nanites at the time. Which was a tanks worth of resources. You had to wait 2 minutes to repull.

[eager spire]

it is a significantly worse game for a lot of reasons.

[sleek thistle]

it was like 90% of the complaints at the start

[fervent rose]

thats just mw2019 whiners

[sleek thistle]

agreed

[fervent rose]

people outside of cod just hate mw2 for the actual bad mechanics

its slow

[sleek thistle]

which is the people who play the game

[fresh lintel]

Only the New Conglomerates MAX. And its a shotgun. So a Archer basically countered it to shit.

All the MAX guns were inaccurate (exeptions being 3 weapons. One each faction. NCs versions didnt OHK but extended the range)

[fervent rose]

slide canceling isnt required to make mw2 faster

they could do it in 15 other ways (and they should)

[sleek thistle]

thb

i didnt play WZ1 a lot

[fresh lintel]

MW2 movement consists of spamming sprint and breaking your controller.

[sleek thistle]

and idgaf about not having slide cancel

[arctic grove]

Red dots on mini map when firing, reworked attachment balancing, footstep sound reduction, etc

[fresh lintel]

MW2 players needed the cancel so bad they found a way to slide cancel anyways.

[fervent rose]

the core sluggishness of everything

mw2 feels like a bad dream

[sleek thistle]

i just think straight copying a better game's technics is disgusting. It's just assuming you ran out of ideas

[silver lantern]

i like mw2s gunplay ngl

[silver lantern]

ah so bf2042 basically

[sleek thistle]

exactly

[fresh lintel]

MW2 could be a good game but the community genuinely needs to adapt to change or theyre going to ruin the franchise more IMO.

[arctic grove]

I do too. Can’t really find any words to describe it, but I do

[eager spire]

I think using good ideas is a good thing, doesn't matter if it's "copying"

[magic bloom]

I don’t like it’s gun play

[sleek thistle]

it is copying.

[eager spire]

it doesn't matter.

[magic bloom]

They just let their guns beat the shit out of them

[arctic grove]

Gunplay itself, nice, but attachment balancing is bad

[silver lantern]

heres the thing yall

2042 copied things badly

[sleek thistle]

its humiliating for the company

[fresh lintel]

Its gun play is an actual treat. Was very fun. The balance on the other hand is CoD.

[arctic grove]

Yeah imo the ttk is super fucking easy and should definitely be increased

[eager spire]

The gunplay in MW22 sucks ass, it's just MW19 but IW decided that you're not allowed to see shit.

[fresh lintel]

As in the balance is SMGs and 2 ARs.

[arctic grove]

Stuff like battle rifles shouldn’t exist

[magic bloom]

Battle rifles Are Just…

[fresh lintel]

Snipers shouldnt exist in CQC and yet

[eager spire]

Battle Rifles and Marksman Rifles shouldn't exist.

[fervent rose]

i think the gunplay is terrible. im falling asleep in the time it takes for my soldier to ads the rifle

mw2 is slow motion fps

[silver lantern]

use attachments
to make it faster then

[sleek thistle]

but the humiliation EA took from BF1 and BFV being known as "dead" or "shit" was enough for them to COPY the other game

[silver lantern]

thats actually solvable

[magic bloom]

It’s almost like These pretty much Special forces soldiers don’t ever train on their weapons

[arctic grove]

Well again that’s how they’re handling weapon attachment balancing which is horribly

[sleek thistle]

not even an inspiration

[eager spire]

It doesn't matter.

[sleek thistle]

just straight up plagium

[sleek thistle]

It does lol

not original

[silver lantern]

i think the third person take downs was a very very bad idea

[eager spire]

ah yes because CoD totally invented the concepts of tac sprint and sliding.

[fervent rose]

all of the stuff that makes gunplay fun, things like sprint to fire times, ads times, are all out of whack in mw2

[magic bloom]

I Most Most fps Games Are going in the direction of what MW2 took it’s Not a fault of battlefield

[sleek thistle]

being original is a basic thing about games

[silver lantern]

the first person take downs from bf5 and older shouldve returned

[arctic grove]

Ooh I know, but just wait till the absolute last second where they half fix it!

Then onto the next cash cow

[silver lantern]

i hope they fix this in the next game

[eager spire]

Being original is nice, but it's not required. Chasing originality over anything else is just how you have games with bad ideas.

[slender isle]

You ever heard the phrase "Nothing is ever original, just a variation"

[fresh lintel]

But the market has always been "This game did good so I wanna try making it better"

Look at all those "Halo Killers"

[eager spire]

because the ideas are technically original, but they're bad.

[magic bloom]

Fix? It’s not broken it was intentional

[sleek thistle]

I know the phase, the myth created, the shit copies.

doesn't rhyme in english

[fresh lintel]

Except Killzone was actually good. Just not a Halo Killer.

[arctic grove]

Like the season 3 update dropped today. Some general decreases on attachment debuffs but still just aaaawful

[silver lantern]

fix as in stick to the first person takedowns like the older games and dont do the third person takedowns

[slender isle]

Basically the jist is nothing is original as someone has done it before, but you can differentiate yourself by theme or certain elements

[fervent rose]

a new killzone would be cool to see

[sleek thistle]

anyways i'll get to sleep. I have a test at college tomorrow

[arctic grove]

I faintly remember killzone

[sleek thistle]

good night everyone

[fresh lintel]

The only way for me to get into MW2 is if they actually balance the game.

[magic bloom]

Good luck

[arctic grove]

Played killzone 2 iirc on my ps3, I remember it being hella brutal lol

[eager spire]

MW22 is just not a good CoD game.

[sleek thistle]

nobody did tac sprint before... adios now

[sleek thistle]

thanks mate

[fresh lintel]

I wish I played Killzone. ;-;

[sleek thistle]

cya

[magic bloom]

Agreed

[silver lantern]

yknow what i want bf7 to copy from mw

the gunsmith

i want the gunsmith system in battlefield

[fervent rose]

mw2 is like a slow tom clancys game

[silver lantern]

its so good

maybe they can even find a way to bring back the plus system as well

[fervent rose]

it feels nothing like cod

[magic bloom]

Remember the weapon vault blueprints in MW2?

Yeah we’ve only gotten 1 since the game launched

[slender isle]

Just cause there are 2 variations of sprinting does not mean it is a COD thing

the only thing that is similar between 2024 and MW19 is the animation

[fresh lintel]

I wouldnt mind that but I also feel like that would make gun customization like BF4 where attachments can ruin a gun.

[silver lantern]

like for example the gunsmith can be used to do more heavy customization on the gun
and only available in the menu

[slender isle]

But that is literally how you sprint with a weapon like that

[magic bloom]

I like 2042’s current System

The plus system needs to stay

[slender isle]

• system = W

[silver lantern]

and for the plus system
you could change out the mags
sights
barrel mods and the under barrel

[eager spire]

eh

[arctic grove]

Gun customization has been outdated in BF for like a decade now tbh

[silver lantern]

why not incorporate both

[arctic grove]

It’s really boring atp

[eager spire]

the plus system is an interesting idea but frankly it introduces problems with balance.

[fresh lintel]

Its either we do a Gunsmith type and go back to "What you bring is what you get" with no Plus system

Or we keep the Plus system for ease of use but keep it simple like here. Or expand on it a little.

[fervent rose]

plus system isnt used well

[arctic grove]

You just run whatever gives the most flat advantages because there’s nothing unique to make

[lunar finch]

yep gun customization has always been the major L of bf

[magic bloom]

I think the plus system is the least of This Games balance problems

[fervent rose]

theres very few times where changing a barrel does anything

[lunar finch]

yep

[fervent rose]

changing ammo types is mostly just to get more ammo

[slender isle]

Hell even the plus system isn't unique

it's from crysis

[lunar finch]

only thing thats kinda unfair is changing sights

[silver lantern]

also lets get better camos

[lunar finch]

but thats a rare occasion

[fervent rose]

swapping to a grenade launcher isnt even a good idea lmao

and how you get 3 per slot

[slender isle]

Swapping between them is good on guns like the sfar

[fervent rose]

thats funny

[fervent rose]

i mean like it's not healthy for the game

[silver lantern]

the plus system in the beta was stupid

[slender isle]

oh

[fervent rose]

i absolutely swap on scar

[silver lantern]

you could change mags without having to reload

[magic bloom]

I mean grenade launchers and stuff I can understand

But the other things aren’t bad

[silver lantern]

btw was there a new update today?

my game just updated

[magic bloom]

Yeah

The all Chat

[silver lantern]

yeah just found the patch notes

[lunar finch]

ok but why cant u take off the canted sights on the rm68 its so dumb

[magic bloom]

It should’ve been a canted red dot

[slender isle]

That was fun

[silver lantern]

because its a feature of the gun

[slender isle]

Integrated

[fervent rose]

let me unintegrate it

[silver lantern]

i assume the canted sight is permanently on the gun

[fresh lintel]

I do use the ammo types to keep my killstreak going ngl

[magic bloom]

Theyre not integrated

Theyre rail mounted

[lunar finch]

i just unmapped canted sights because it overlapped with my crouch button and i didnt feel like fixing it

[fervent rose]

everyone does, but the only gun that properly does ammo switching imo is the bsvm @fresh lintel

[lunar finch]

the operater can just rip them off if they arent on the rail tbh

[slender isle]

😳

[magic bloom]

You shouldn’t be able to change caliber

Only ammo type

(Armor piercing, high power, Shit like that)

[slender isle]

That';s literally what it is in 2042 right?

[magic bloom]

No

[fervent rose]

depends on the gun

[slender isle]

Only one that changes is the M5A3, but that's how the gun actually works

[magic bloom]

On guns like the M5 you can swap it to pistol caliber

[fresh lintel]

At least with the shotguns it makes sense

[slender isle]

Yeah but that's how it works

[fervent rose]

the bsvm has smg ammo

thats the one gun where it truly matters in the gameplay

but yea m5 has 3 models

9mm, 556 and 6.8

[magic bloom]

No it isnt youd have to Change the bolt, barrel and magazine hole

[fervent rose]

we have magic barrels

[fresh lintel]

And shotguns dont do caliber (unless its the fucking 4 Gauge russian shotgun IRL i think? Im not a gun nut)

So switching from Buckshot to Fletchette to Slug is reasonable

[magic bloom]

Lmgs being able to change their barrels that quick makes sense since Most have quick Change barrels

[magic bloom]

Yes because they’re measured in gauges

Not millimeters

[silver lantern]

ayo

did they change exposure?

[fervent rose]

those are all the same gauge shells tho

[magic bloom]

For instance 12 gauge all the projectiles are pretty much the same size cause of wads for stuff like flachette and buckshot

[fresh lintel]

Apparently the 4 gauge can shoot smoke canisters or some stupid shit.

I need to rewatch garand thumbs video on it lmO

[magic bloom]

It can

It also had flash bang rounds

[fresh lintel]

We need more shotguns like that in video games

[magic bloom]

How Shotgun Shells work for instance

Bad image ik

But Yeah shotguns Are cool

[lunar finch]

okay hear me out

you should get some ui notification that ur gadget was destroyed by a trophy

[magic bloom]

I agree

[lunar finch]

because when ur using an airburst its so hard to tell

[fervent rose]

at least some fizzle sound effect

[lunar finch]

theres a sound effect but its so quiet and hard to hear from far away its just useless

[magic bloom]

With an airburst it’s almost impossible to see cause the APS smoke when it shoots down Is almost the Same

[lunar finch]

^

[fervent rose]

right it shouldnt be localized, it should be a personal sound like when you get a kill chime

shouldnt need to be next to it

[magic bloom]

BTW if an APS shoots down a projectile like a Missile it should still damage things cause of the fragmentation

[lunar finch]

and u cant see shit out of the airburst thermal anyways so its even worse

[magic bloom]

I clicked on your profile unintentionally Why do you have That as Your banner

[lunar finch]

[fresh lintel]

I dont blame them

[magic bloom]

Is it you in the photo

[fresh lintel]

I'd do the same but my desk is a mess, shit, and cluttered

[magic bloom]

I Just Game on my bed

[lunar finch]

what

[lunar finch]

yes

[fresh lintel]

I game on this hand me down office chair

Until its PC gaming which then its a wooden chairm

[wintry hull]

Does anyone have any tips for the LTM? I really am disliking it so far and I just want to know if I’m going about things wrong

[magic bloom]

What

Is it bad that i Game on my bed

[slender isle]

For your back yes

[wintry hull]

I game prone on my bed

But I also do construction work so my back is screwed no matter what

[lunar finch]

yes

[magic bloom]

Why

I don’t have space for a desk 🥲

[lunar finch]

fair enough

[magic bloom]

Or Money for that matter

[open temple]

is the event not available anymore?

[slender isle]

It should be

[magic bloom]

It Is

[slender isle]

still got like 10 days left

[open temple]

played it for a bit, left to go eat, when i relaunched my game the event card isn't there, and i couldn't find it in any of the play tabs

https://i.imgur.com/4U6FnNC.jpeg

[lunar finch]

weird

[slender isle]

Give the game a reload

[open temple]

weird, came back after i repaired the game, i restarted the game twice before just to see if it was a fluke

[lunar finch]

maybe you dont deserve to play the event

[slender isle]

Guess no event for you

[open temple]

what? i said it came back after i repaired the game

[slender isle]

Oh, I missed that bit mb

[lunar finch]

same

[hybrid totem]

Wait so you got it back, and instead of playing it, you restarted the game to see if it would disappear again?

[magic bloom]

Cat boy mackay enjoyer lmao

[open temple]

no. i restarted the game twice before repairing it

[lunar finch]

:3

when is the next map rework coming out again?

[slender isle]

after the event

think the week after

[lunar finch]

oh ok

hope there's actual balance changes that update

[slender isle]

There should be

4.1.1 was just all chat and bug fixes plus the event

[lunar finch]

they should've snuck a rm68 nerf in the update tbh

[slender isle]

RM68 isn't even that good

I found it's just odd to use

feels weird

[lunar finch]

.....

that gun is not normal

[fervent rose]

pull down to the left

[arctic grove]

What is the best gun then

[fervent rose]

rm68 has some of the most predictable recoil patterns in the game

[slender isle]

Well personally I'm an M16A3 fan

Really really versatile weapon

[fervent rose]

m16 is good too

cant fault that choice

[slender isle]

I also enjoy myself the GOL magnum

the RPT-31

the RPK

and the P90

[fervent rose]

the glock

[slender isle]

Rex

god tier weapon in the right hands

[fresh lintel]

The M44 too if you can land the headshot

[slender isle]

M44 is really only better than the rex past 60m

before that rex outclasses it

[fresh lintel]

Does the Rex one shot headshot?

Havent used it

[slender isle]

Yeah, within 60m

[fresh lintel]

What the fuck lmao

[slender isle]

is good right?

[neat olive]

Any ideas on how to fix the game looking pixelated asf at distance? tried settings from low to ultra, changed resolution, etc

can't kill at range with 1x with how pixelated it is

[radiant prism]

what is your monitor situation? I had that problem on BFV before I upgraded my monitor from the ancient brick I had

[acoustic seal]

you have dynamic render resolution turned on

they call it something different in the settings, i'm checking to remember what

"dynamic resolution scale"

below all the usual graphics options

could also be DLSS i guess

[fresh lintel]

Like i'll keep using the M44 because rule of cool but the rex sounds nasty

[radiant prism]

M44 has ability to snipe, while the Rex is more of a standard close range sidearm

[karmic egret]

me typing my chat all in asteriks to confuse the enemy

[radiant prism]

lmao

[fresh lintel]

I dont think xbox one gets all chat yet

[radiant prism]

it does, just gotta turn it on

[fresh lintel]

Oh?

[radiant prism]

afaik yeah

its off by default

[celest orbit]

I just picked the game up and it's honestly really enjoyable

[fresh lintel]

Ah yeah found it

Its in HUD general which is.. Odd.

[magic bloom]

Yes

[lilac crater]

Okay yeah the rm68 is definitely the best assault rifle

[radiant prism]

asto post clip? 👉👈

[glacial quarry]

[acoustic seal]

did they pick the worst maps on purpose for the new event?

stranded? manifest??

[lilac crater]

Nerf incoming definitely

[glacial quarry]

@lilac crater they just waiting to sell the battlepass before nerfing it

guarantee you 100% nerf right after this season

[lilac crater]

oh most definitely, right before the new battle pass weapon is released and OP

[glacial quarry]

Also try the cqb version. its slightly less range but reloads so fast i use it mainly

instead of 40/150m 4/5btk

its 30/100 but its still more than enough

[fresh lintel]

Somehow found players worse than bots

[glacial quarry]

i like the fast reload

[lilac crater]

Would high powered rounds be used for the rm or just standard with the shortened barrel?

[glacial quarry]

standard or cqb

dont need high

[lilac crater]

I feel like that with the team death match I just did

[radiant prism]

yea was gonna say

[fresh lintel]

My mans stared at a guy shooting at me, who then started shooting him.

[glacial quarry]

the standard is already stronger than most high

[lilac crater]

Ohhh okay I see

[glacial quarry]

the cqb round is the same as lcmg standard

so i use it

[copper ice]

the close combat is also stronger than most high

[lilac crater]

Shortened barrel, standard ammo maybe extended, and a nice grip

[fresh lintel]

And some guy was camping our spawn as sundance with the auto shotty.

[glacial quarry]

^

[copper ice]

its kind of stupid how incredibly inconsistent the ammo types are

[glacial quarry]

for reference the cqb round has more range than the rpt31 high powered

[copper ice]

and by kind of stupid i mean Holy Fuck Dice Give Us A Fucking Effective Range Chart

[lilac crater]

In a world of rm26’s, use an rm26

[fresh lintel]

High Power on PP Bizon: Busted.

High Power on PBX: Useless.

[glacial quarry]

cqb on pbx has more range than standard its funny

[fresh lintel]

Its stupid lmao.

[copper ice]

its got more range than high power too

[glacial quarry]

they messed up

[copper ice]

they fucked it up and never fixed it

[radiant prism]

new pfp sex

[fresh lintel]

I wouldnt mind a pass for them.

[alpine vector]

Quick question, do weekly missions carry over, EXCEPT for the bonus mission?

[lilac crater]

“How much range should we give the cqb boss?” ….. “yes.”

[fresh lintel]

I'm proud for you. Because that PFP fucks.

[copper ice]

since sym stopped updating i dont think the devs even know what the damage values are

[arctic grove]

Yes

[glacial quarry]

theres a spreadsheet somewhere

witha ccurate data

[alpine vector]

@arctic grove thank you

[copper ice]

yeah but thats our spreadsheet

[glacial quarry]

i know the data of most of the meta guns

[copper ice]

too hard for devs to find it

its not like they can just read the values or anything and see that PBX has had the wrong stats FOREVER

[lilac crater]

Imagine using a med pen and your soldier just starts vomiting violently

[radiant prism]

Right? Love the dozer gifs

[glacial quarry]

pbx cqb has longer range than ak24 standard

[radiant prism]

I need to get more takedowns so I can get gifs of them

[glacial quarry]

[copper ice]

dozer moding

[radiant prism]

fr

I’ve had people swapping to him all day, he’s so effective on shutdown

[copper ice]

8v8 dozer finally gets his chance to shine

[worldly bramble]

who’s playing?

[radiant prism]

Although

[fresh lintel]

G57 needs a nerf asap lmao

So fucking sick of that gun

[glacial quarry]

there are guns that need nerfing before g57

[radiant prism]

It makes me wish specialist gadgets got skins too

[fresh lintel]

Shotguns dont count.

But there isnt a "Before G57" since the SFAR needs a nerf too.

[glacial quarry]

rm68

sfar is fine

mid gun

[fresh lintel]

Mid gun? My man its straight up the other RM

[lilac crater]

Leave the poor rm68 alone 🥺

[fresh lintel]

Like the AK is mid compared to it

And I T1'd the AK.

[glacial quarry]

ak is shit compared to anything

sfar is kinda mid

[fresh lintel]

The M5 is shit against it. The AC42. The AM40.

[lilac crater]

Sfar in my opinion is a great gun. It just takes a little bit more skill to use, which makes it fair

[fresh lintel]

On console its a laser. And out classes all the ARs.

[glacial quarry]

its not that good in cqb

and M16 has better range

its a good gun

[lilac crater]

To be effective with the sfar at cqb, run around with your pants around your ankles, this will distract the enemies enough to get the upper hand in gun fight

[glacial quarry]

but its mid compared to stuff like bsvm, pp29, lcmg, rpt, M16

[magic bloom]

@radiant prism This is From you father

[radiant prism]

Thank you

Anyways dozer moment

[glacial quarry]

might use the sfar just for the ammo

but in that case ill prob just use pp29

[magic bloom]

I like my new Name

[glacial quarry]

TTK is no.1 consideration when choosing a gun

sfar isnt too good at ttk but its good enough

[fervent rose]

nah dozers stay dying on every mode

[acoustic seal]

these event matches are one sided as fuck

[glacial quarry]

main advantage is the 50m 4 shot range and the 40 round mag

[acoustic seal]

bad players can't hide in pop so they just lose every gunfight until they pull NTW or ghostmaker

or zain

bad? just cheat

[chilly jacinth]

Bad players cant hit shit with the ntw or ghostmaker

[spare depot]

blasco is mid in terms of video game characters

[acoustic seal]

they can manage one bullet, at least they have a better chance than when they're getting fried in a normal gunfight

ooh they use sph too

[spare depot]

bad players use RM 68 + G57 + SPH + Mackay

the most busted items in the game

[acoustic seal]

mad detected

[magic bloom]

Dang

[fresh lintel]

I don't know if the guy hasnt used the SFAR lately but the only thing that was able to kill me in a 1v1, CQC included was the RM.

And I was playing stupid too

[spare depot]

S-tier when it comes to battlefield tho

tbf

[magic bloom]

S+

[fresh lintel]

I'm a Lis girl but Blasco is pretty.

And nice.

[carmine rover]

i like it too

🥺

[spare depot]

next step is for battlefield to do collabs and add celebs

[fresh lintel]

Also lowkey why does the M44 have less veloc than the G57

[spare depot]

time to spam 40 mm grenades as Ariana Grande

[acoustic seal]

m44 is a joke weapon

the year is 2042 and we're still fucking around with single action revolvers?

[fresh lintel]

I was using it because styling on people with a single shot is funny but like

The amount of G57 Primary users around is just..

Let me have fun damnit. I shouldnt have to use a G57 as well.

[spare depot]

They should add a portal gun that was only in bf4, not bf3 or bc2

like the L115 😍

[acoustic seal]

why did they add claymores again?

i just watched someone put a claymore under the talking stick and left the game out of sheer disgust

[hybrid totem]

claymores are amazing in the new mode

you don't even have to put them ON the lance

people take pretty predictable paths lol

[acoustic seal]

i just want to lose a gunfight man

just once

ONE TIME in the event mode i would like to die to something other than an explosive or getting triple peeked

[hybrid totem]

be mackay and git to a sniper spot

[acoustic seal]

im trying to play the game man

[hybrid totem]

the game is explosive spam. Sucks that it's not what you want though

[magic bloom]

Thanks

[fresh lintel]

Unlike Planetside the claymores here actually kill

I was confused on why I was seeing the AEK in normal play.

Time to use the AK24 I guess 🤷‍♀️

[dapper river]

just got back from playing MWII

you lot, all of you who complain about this game, you don't know how good you have it

[copper fulcrum]

lol

[eager spire]

just because one game happens to be worse doesn't mean the other is good

[potent trench]

I'll agree with that person tho, at the very least, BF2042 has discernable footstep despite all of the chaos. MWII are just too noisy, and you cant even hear footstep even when theyre close

but ya, both games are kinda in rough spot right now

[hybrid totem]

discernable? You barely need a minimap

even through steel walls

[neat olive]

nope, and also not dlss

[fresh lintel]

This game might be worse than BF1/BF3-4 but its still a preferable shit over eye gauging bullshit that MW2 is.

And Infinite.

[potent trench]

yeah, dont even need minimap
all i need is my ears on 2042
pretty happy with it

not to mention, MWII has dead silent

[acoustic seal]

2042 audio sounds much closer than it actually is and has dead bodies that make noise for some god awful reason

[potent trench]

these sweats using vaznev + dead silent is just outrageous

[fresh lintel]

I'm iffy about audio, cant pinpoint where someone is via audio compared to Planetside.

Dead Silent is a mistake.

[potent trench]

lol yeah the dead body making noises can be distracting sometimes

[acoustic seal]

i'm pretty sure all the audio engineers in the world died instantly sometime in 2016

[fresh lintel]

"Oh I can actually run around the map!"

Maybe play slower.

[neat olive]

naw I'm kinda a run n gun kinda guy, why would I wanna play slow

[fresh lintel]

You dont need to play CoD as if it were Titanfall 2.

[neat olive]

🤨

yes, I do

[magic bloom]

AK24 best gun

[neat olive]

since I can't play titanfall 2 😌

[fresh lintel]

AK24 straight up the best okay gun and i'm fine with that.

Actually requires skill. Dumpsters people with headshots.

[potent trench]

does bf2042 has bad guns?

[fresh lintel]

Then theres the SFAR which is: Haha you're dead. Oh sniper? Dead. Tank? Dead.

[potent trench]

i feel like I can use all of them and pretty happy with it

[magic bloom]

Non of the guns are bad imo

What’s you alls favorite sight

[potent trench]

unlike in MWII, where if you dont use meta weapons, youre kinda screwed lol

[low cypress]

Eh not rlly

[magic bloom]

Mine is the uh-1 Smart optic

[low cypress]

I’ve been running around in mwii with non meta and playing the same

[potent trench]

probably the slanted cobra sight

[low cypress]

People just think meta is the only viable option lmao

[magic bloom]

No to me I use the crossbow and knives and do fairly well

[potent trench]

i do not think of the same in battlefield game

[neat olive]

I was just top of team with crossbow

[potent trench]

nor any COD prior to BOCW

[neat olive]

like, 50 kills I think?

[potent trench]

VG and MWII is kinda annoying with the metas

[low cypress]

Tbh it’s the same here

Meta isn’t needed to be good

[potent trench]

or maybe the players on my server are bunch a sweats

[neat olive]

only guns I dislike are the rorsch and shotguns

[potent trench]

cause theyre just using riot shields and shotguns or vaznev on mwii

[neat olive]

fuck the rorsch

[magic bloom]

I love shotguns :)

Theyre fun

[potent trench]

5 out of 6 players on enemy team and my team are using that

[grave silo]

cod has the "skill based match making"

[neat olive]

I dislike shotguns as they lack range

and just not a fan of the rng with shotguns in most games

[potent trench]

so ive heard
it's annoying though regardless

[magic bloom]

Insurgency sandstorm is the only Game you could Run a Shotgun and stand a very good chance

They’re literally sniper rifles and you don’t need slugs

[potent trench]

one match I can go with 4.1 - 7.5 K/D, and then the other 2 matches I get like 0.9-2.1 K/D

[grave silo]

another reason I don't play cod anymore, at least in bf you can get a mix of players and still enjoy it

[neat olive]

yea

[potent trench]

kinda annoying

[low cypress]

Tarkov too

games that actually portray shotguns right are an instant 10/10 in my book

[neat olive]

ks-23 l0l

[potent trench]

at least with 2042, it's consistent 1.8 - 2.5 K/D for me regardless of the match and time o day

[magic bloom]

Ive Never played tarkov

[neat olive]

it's

[low cypress]

I don’t suggest it

[neat olive]

not very good anymore.

[low cypress]

Unless you are a masochist

[neat olive]

used to be, then they nitpicked and kept trying to make it harder (SO much more tedious and time consuming) for players.

[low cypress]

what was your last wipe?

[neat olive]

uuuuuuuh

no idea

idk how many wipes have happened

[low cypress]

and the harder thing is annoying I agree but that’s just how Nikita wanted it from the beginning

[neat olive]

been at least like half a year

I don't mind it being harder

I don't like it being more tedious

[low cypress]

Oh it is quite tedious nowadays

[neat olive]

it's really annoying having to go around having to find lil bolts and doodads and lighters and this and that

just to get like 8 ammo of something

[low cypress]

with this most recent wipe they upped the prices for most early wipe things

[magic bloom]

Wasnt planning on Playing tarkov tbh

Heard cheaters Run the Game

[neat olive]

smart

eh

[low cypress]

It’s true

Mostly

[neat olive]

I haven't had issues personally with cheaters

and I had over 3k hours

[low cypress]

But luckily! They are planning on rewriting the ENTIRE code soo goodbye bozos

[obtuse inlet]

Mckay is goated

[neat olive]

I so much more prefer zain

[magic bloom]

Canadian spider man

[neat olive]

I can't stand having to wait to heal

literally only play zain for his passive

[magic bloom]

Im Just Your average recon and Angel enjoyer

And dozer cause I love his T1

Gecc taught me well

[neat olive]

I'm a really aggressive player, so I hate having to sit around and wait to start healing, killing someone and sucking their souls out to fuel my healing is so much faster and more enjoyable

[magic bloom]

Aggressive recon goes hard

[neat olive]

also zain's passive gives the visual clarity to the screen I love.

[magic bloom]

I love his passive screen color Change thing

[neat olive]

I changed the % of it down a bit but it’s a good amount for me to clear up a bit and help see more for a second

wish I could fix pixelation at range so I don’t need a magnified scope tho

[arctic grove]

Join call

we playing battle

[fresh lintel]

Canadian gang

I forgot how much I enjoy the AK24

[onyx mica]

did someone mention tarkov

no man let me have my rat's life peacefully

[gritty tapir]

so why does casper's drone automatically full recharge after getting downed by another casper drone

[fresh lintel]

Speaking of rats

Lis nerf made Stealths rampant again.

The only vehicle I would be happy to see removed

[onyx mica]

let hannibal run free, they are beautiful

but nightbird is my queen still

i like the sound she is making

minigun it is

also panther is hot, felon is too skinny i don't like though they are one of the best

[sweet schooner]

how do i fix my input settings on bf

it stays on default when i try go change thru em

[vapid crystal]

Battlefield 1 wasn't how I thought it'd be, it's the epitome of camping out of all games I've played

[warm stirrup]

Battlefield v was camping mostly when players reached max rank

[eager spire]

That's what happens when there is no movement in your game and the gameplay is so slow otherwise.

[warm stirrup]

Battlefield 1 focused too heavily on the horses

Which players killed most of the time

[fresh lintel]

If the Wildcats actually did AA stuff, and if Stealth had a counter other than "Wildcat" or Rao then maybe id care less about the Stealths.

But right now its a farm infantry for free until a vehicle looks at it and has anything remotely scary to Air. Which is not many weapons.

[eager spire]

It focused too much on aesthetics and trying to appear "authentic".

[warm stirrup]

True

[eager spire]

So rather than being a good game it's a bad game that looks good.

[warm stirrup]

Zeppelin crashing was badass tho

Driving the zeppelin or train was awful tho. Always one bad player to ruin it for everyone else

[onyx mica]

the true wildcat will know what to do, the tank wannabe 40mm/57mm wildcat will not be so sure about it

[fresh lintel]

Yeah I use the Wildcat for AA, its main default gun shreds infantry and hurts tanks.

Its all you need.

[warm stirrup]

We all know the true aa is the railgun tank tho

[fresh lintel]

Its all fun and games until a Stealth notices you, B lines towards you and sits above you until you die lmao

[onyx mica]

my fave to kill are jets if i use wildcat

[vapid crystal]

is there a way to show even full servers on the browser? Because im only seeing 1 server on PS4 right now

[onyx mica]

exciting!

[fiery solar]

you could fly them?

i used to played bf1 so much and never knew you could fly them i only made it to the gunner seat once

[warm stirrup]

Yee, one player was always the pilot or driver

[wary portal]

Hey is the shutdown mode shutdown it self? I was playing for like 5 mins before I got kick out.

[warm stirrup]

Yeah the new mode shutdowns your pc

[wary portal]

I was playing the event mode on the ps4

I got an error and kick the feck out after a few mins.

[subtle tiger]

I have been trying to log into EA App since it got installed and removed Origin few days ago but it keeps saying "Something went wrong with your account" and I did all the steps google said but no dice. this is a known issue with an unclear fix. any tips how to fix this so I can play my 110$ game?

[dusk hedge]

Is the angel skin in the shop not in the event ?

[next onyx]

The Angel skin is part of the event.

[dusk hedge]

Yea but free in shutdown also?

Bcs 1000 in Shop

[onyx mica]

it must be your first 110$ game that is not working or not working properly, but yes i had the same issues before, i forgot what i did though

[next onyx]

It's straight up paid. The Angel skin.

[wide shore]

I had a solid 26 kill game of shutdown last night. Idk if that’s a lot but it felt like a lot. Had two plants and a defuse too.

Mode is growing on me

[next onyx]

Yeah your effort feels a lot worthwhile than in other modes.

I hit 41 kills the other day.

[limber orbit]

Ofc you did

[wide shore]

No surprise lmao

[cosmic dragon]

You’re giving me flashbacks

[onyx mica]

[tropic hazel]

how does performance in this game even work man lol I have a Ryzen 5 3600 and I get 80-90fps, and I'm watching a video of someone playing with a Ryzen 9 5900X and they're also getting 80-100fps?

[wise magnet]

Why does meeleing with the knife auto switch back to primary weapon but for example im using the baton, when i melee it doesn't switch to my primary

[low timber]

Because the baton is bugged

[hard geyser]

Tons of factors and without knowing more you can't just say what you're saying and be really accurate

[low timber]

You can hold out other melees out if you want by holding the melee button for a short time.

[tropic hazel]

Seems like RAM speed matters more from what I can tell

I’ve seen videos of people using way better GPUs with no difference, explains why mine is never past like 60% when playing

CPU is always at 100% but isn’t that still a general issue?

[wary portal]

I finish the event and got the skin for paik-chan.

[mild crystal]

Why dod they release an update to anounce all chat

Yday i got on after the update and it said "all chat incoming"

[robust vapor]

I want a bot skin

[wise magnet]

Damn okay thanks lol

[robust vapor]

So I can change my name to CPL E. RECTION

[chilly jacinth]

100% cpu usage isn't an issue

[exotic tartan]

what's raos hacking range?

[proven pike]

Give sundance the spawn beacon back. pretty please 🙂

[lunar finch]

no

[arctic grove]

Do armor piercing rounds damage helicopters?

trying to find a consistent way that doesn’t require me to get to level 60 to rack up vehicle damage

(With a primary weapon)

[lunar finch]

yes they do

[arctic grove]

Lets go

[lunar finch]

its not a lot of damage but

its damage

[arctic grove]

Like

actually that’s probably fine

So long as I’m getting 100 around just focusing on helis

50 even

[lunar finch]

fair enough

[arctic grove]

Yea tryna unlock the rorsch

Cause I’ve heard it’s good against helis and I fucking hate helicopters

[lunar finch]

it doesnt do that much damage anymore, youre better off just playing Lis

it was completely busted at launch

[arctic grove]

Pain

And yea I am playing lis

Just wanted a second source of vehicle damage

Is there anything better than the rorsch vs helis?

[granite island]

Jets

If you can aim good

Or throw a condor against another heli or condor

Nobody grabs the condor in my lobbies

[mighty quarry]

Hello guys, I can't seem to find any details on the optimal turn speed for jets, is there a trick in BF2042 or just hold the afterburner and keep turning?

I've seen people go into VTOL mode when using the F-35 to get behind the enemy jet in a dogfight but that doesn't always work

[upper condor]

Just hold afterburner to turn faster, though there might be another way

[arctic grove]

God I suck ass at this game

Just lemme get my armor piercing rounds

[upbeat sand]

X4 squad of pkp vs tank

[mighty quarry]

Is there a difference in movement between using W+Afterburner vs Afterburner alone?

[spiral folio]

The turn rate will probably be the same so you'll make wider turns

Without thrust vectoring that's just how it goes

[scenic owl]

2042 ps4 Legends_poups

[arctic grove]

Got the rounds

Just sat on the back of a tank and shot at people

Like a remora

Except mutualistic

[pearl ridge]

Why are slug rounds so low on ammo count

You get enough for one full reload and that’s it.

[spiral folio]

Since the identical sized ammo is heavier, they take up more room

[scenic owl]

2042 ps4 Legends_poups

[arctic grove]

this guy is at it again

[chilly jacinth]

The amount of reserve ammo is a balance thing

[warm stirrup]

People starting to use all chat yet?

Yesterday was basically nobody

[sick eagle]

what

[lunar finch]

people barely use team chat to begin with so

[sick eagle]

why is this guy posting his name

[mighty holly]

It do be like that sometimes

[placid echo]

There was an Xbox user trash talking the enemy team for being PC. The PC Player's responses were just "k" and then talked positively about the Shutdown game mode

[sick eagle]

i like how the log for update #4.11 for all chat says "added all chat so you can congratulate the enemy for dancing on your body"

[scenic owl]

Because this guy is tirer when he play solo, this guy dis 80 /100 kills per match and Hé always play with noobs like u

[solid imp]

had a guy tbag me a second ago after NOT saving his teammate from my taser baton

k guy lol

[sick eagle]

dude i got 800 kills in 3 hours

[scenic owl]

Boring

[sick eagle]

so stop bragging

[scenic owl]

Ez noob

[sick eagle]

9 year old

[mighty holly]

looks like it

[scenic owl]

2042 ps4 Legends_poups

21

[jade barn]

guys how does the m5 fare against other aow ARs?

[solid imp]

are you posting LFG? what is this?

[sick eagle]

wow im younger and i act more mature

[scenic owl]

Exactly

[sick eagle]

you act like a cod player

[solid imp]

!!lfg

[tender pendant]

ℹ Looking for Players to play with?
Head over to the Looking For Games channel category.
Please remember to state your region when looking for players to play with!
#lfg-crossplay #lfg-pc #lfg-xbox #lfg-playstation

[solid imp]

Please stop spamming your gamer tag

[mighty holly]

He doesn’t understands lad he posted it on general and battlefield also no one has replied in PlayStation channel so yea somewhat understandable but it is what it is

normal regular stuff

[scenic owl]

@sick eagle u re xbox player... OK then. Classicisme noob

[sick eagle]

what?

[orchid crest]

Howdy.

[scenic owl]

@solid imp @mighty holly go chek lfg please, nothing

[mighty holly]

I mean I’m playing fallout

[magic bloom]

[solid imp]

what does this mean please? if you're LFG you post in those channels

[orchid crest]

@scenic owl rather not champ.

[sick eagle]

you can't force people to make lfg's

[orchid crest]

@solid imp pretty much just trying to ping people into lfg from other channels lol

[solid imp]

please just post lfg in lfg channels 🙂

[orchid crest]

He has

[solid imp]

ok then

job done lol

[scenic owl]

@sick eagle why you speak with me ? Stay à good dog

[mighty holly]

Like 5 times

[orchid crest]

Yup....

[mighty holly]

different time frames mind you

[orchid crest]

In a row

[magic bloom]

Just mute this guy

[sick eagle]

shut the fuck up

[mighty holly]

I mean I wouldn’t say ban the lad or be harsh to him

[scenic owl]

@sick eagle cry baby noob

[mighty holly]

[mental delta]

No no no you stop playing Fallout right now and you go play with this lad ok ? It's not a question

[orchid crest]

@scenic owl and you wonder why people are not rushing to play with you?

[sick eagle]

you are not 21 you are 12

[scenic owl]

@mental deltai approve

[mighty holly]

But I need to make my mods work with other mods and creation club mods

[mental delta]

Poupi any chances you're French ?

[still vault]

@sick eagle + @scenic owl you both be nice to each other. #500058972234055710

[magic bloom]

[solid imp]

oh you guys woke up carbonic.. tsk

[arctic grove]

Seems I came back at a akward time

[mental delta]

You'll do that later, right now you have to carry this lad you don't even know on whatever game he wants to play

[sick eagle]

i know but he isn't

[orchid crest]

100% chance he rages and screams for chocolate milk.

[solid imp]

now see this is devolving into bashing on someone

[still vault]

Chocolate milk is pretty good. Now back to 2042

[mighty holly]

Hear me out

General

[mental delta]

I mean I'm French myself but I don't scream for chocolate milk

[arctic grove]

rm68 get balanced yet?

[mental delta]

Ho no you do it again

[sick eagle]

no

[magic bloom]

Most cursed Shit ever

[orchid crest]

I'm not French nor do I rage or scream for chocolate milk

[arctic grove]

damn.

Oh well

[mental delta]

Huh what ?

[arctic grove]

How’s the event so far I didn’t get in it yet

[solid imp]

this actually made my stomach drop a bit on the fall lol

[orchid crest]

Hub a loo?

[still vault]

I told DICE to wait until I've leveled it. They don't listen to me ofc. but still it has worked out.

[sick eagle]

a fellow ak-24 user

[solid imp]

I mean the RM is too good lol

I feel bad

[magic bloom]

I Drove off it before I meant to once and I was in First Person Ive Never been more scared

[mental delta]

Ok I don't understand what's happening right now

[orchid crest]

Exactly the point.

[solid imp]

It's such a moment in first person

[lunar finch]

ok but have u ever killed someone by throwing a car off a cliff

[solid imp]

damn that's a nice hit 😄

you love to see it

[lunar finch]

imagine just walking and a car lands on ur head

[magic bloom]

No :(

[next onyx]

Car

[magic bloom]

Look it’s my favorite Australian

[untold minnow]

I always wondered, how are armor plates calculated

[magic bloom]

way is the only Australian I’ve met

[untold minnow]

like is it a % reduction of damage

[lunar finch]

its just extra hp

[magic bloom]

Yeah

[untold minnow]

so then my calculations should be right

so

[magic bloom]

Unless it Hits you in a non torso area

[untold minnow]

you have the K30

one of the most popular guns

[lunar finch]

wait really?

[untold minnow]

for its firerate

[lunar finch]

no one uses the k30 anymore

[magic bloom]

Yeah cause they don’t cover more than the torso remember

[untold minnow]

you sure?

[magic bloom]

Pbx Is my current Love

[untold minnow]

either way

to continue

[lunar finch]

yeah but its 2042, would the devs really code that in

[untold minnow]

people use it for its comical firerate

[magic bloom]

They literally added it

They made the changes to it

[lunar finch]

i honestly didnt know that

[untold minnow]

in perfect conditions

if my calculations are right

it should take 3 rounds to bring a user down

if firepower = hitpoints

[untold minnow]

armored or unarmored

[next onyx]

May as well use no aims trainer or an external site for weapon damage.

Armour gives people 20 armour and the vector does 18 damage.

[untold minnow]

sorry what

[untold minnow]

and most importantly

how

[solid imp]

It makes more sense now yea? Before if you equipped armor plates that implied you had armor plates on your feet somehow 😄

[next onyx]

Because of damage adjustments they've had to do.

[untold minnow]

but it clearly says firepower 40

then how is that 18

[lunar finch]

when did they do this anyways?

was this when armor was 25hp

[magic bloom]

Like 3 weeks ago

[next onyx]

Most likely because of its fire rate. The stat bars don't really mean anything.

[lunar finch]

ohhh

[untold minnow]

then what does

[lunar finch]

i havent used armor plates since the sph was added 😭

[next onyx]

You can look at its fire rate and damage per shot to look at its damage potential.

[untold minnow]

and how do I do that when you don't have that displayed

just firepower

and firerate

[untold minnow]

and its friends

[solid imp]

sym.gg

[next onyx]

I have a link where you can look at weapon damage.

[untold minnow]

alright redoing calculations

[next onyx]

And their effective ranges.

[untold minnow]

altho based on firepower

I still found a way better dps gun

[magic bloom]

The thumper as i like to Call the SPH Is Just better

[next onyx]

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1UQsYeC3LiFEvgBt18AarXYvFN3DWzFN3DqRnyRHC0wc/edit?usp=sharing

[magic bloom]

Way with his fucking spreadsheets

[solid imp]

wait did you reinvent sym.gg?

[next onyx]

This isn't mine.

[solid imp]

or did we just meet the masterminds behind it? 👀

[next onyx]

I had it shared by marse.

The ttk in this seems a little more realistic.

[solid imp]

I do seem to recall that sym assumes 100% hit rate on things like shotguns/pellets

[next onyx]

Symptic have kind of gave up on 2042.

[untold minnow]

this is quantum mechanics in a google spreadsheet

how the actual hell are you supposed to read this

[lunar finch]

with your eyes

[next onyx]

Find the weapon you want and look at the ttk numbers with a set up you're running or similar.

[untold minnow]

the ammo pool is the most confusing of all

[lunar finch]

especially with zain

sometimes i just like to stick people with the sph and watch them run around before exploding

i had a feeling it worked, jumping off and on ziplines like apex does save you lmao

[placid echo]

I always do that. Same thing with Sundance

[lunar finch]

same, ive never seen anyone else do it

[mental delta]

Sundance always moving and fighting like she got access to free healthcare right ?

[lunar finch]

loll i was playing paik but yeah

[mental delta]

[lunar finch]

had this one sundance on enemy bt who kept trying to fly through C1 the entire game

[honest comet]

idk broda but i feel like players skill in this game is low as f

[lunar finch]

its like that in all bfs

bf players just suck

[honest comet]

yep

only when they get vehicles in hands like helis

they can do somethin

[lunar finch]

like bf4 players were atrocious

couldnt even walk straight

[honest comet]

hahah yeah

its just funny, but players in cod

man those ppl rock

at least in ranked

[lunar finch]

yeah especially ranked

[honest comet]

issue is bf 2042 gameflow is very slow

while cod is super fast paced

[lunar finch]

most bf players are hard carried by tanks and couldnt win an actual gunfight tbh

[honest comet]

exactly

also helis

i love the gameplay tho of bf bcs of pure chaos

but this 2042 for me is still worst bf in last 10 years

[lunar finch]

Bf players are just oblivious

[lunar finch]

yeah i just play bt i like 128 conquest sometimes though

[mental delta]

Ok I'll speak facts to everyone here, get rid off those fucking explosives on transport helis !!!

[lunar finch]

^

and reduce their hp

[hybrid totem]

nah one or the other

[honest comet]

also what is wrong with movement

[neat olive]

get rid of all the fuckin guns on transport vehicles

[lunar finch]

its perfect 😦

[neat olive]

they shouldn't be a fucking walking tank and be able to compete with the attack vehicles.

[hybrid totem]

I'm soglad we got another new person! Now we get to hear all the typical complaints all over again

[honest comet]

its like moving in cs go

[lunar finch]

nahh they can keep the miniguns

[honest comet]

or minecraft

that bad

[neat olive]

no miniguns are fine

I'm talkin ab the

cannons and explosives

[lunar finch]

ohhh yeah

[neat olive]

I don't mind a lil minigun tho

[hybrid totem]

How come

everyone

is talking like

this now

are we all

out of breath

[neat olive]

how come

you

gotta bitch

[lunar finch]

lets just remove vehicles honestly

[neat olive]

about it

[neat olive]

^

real

[lunar finch]

give everyone a truck

[neat olive]

no, all or nothin

FOOT IT