battlefield-2042

[cosmic dragon]

I don’t use him anymore

He’s basically useless

Like not fully useless

[royal swan]

Unless you wanna kill submissive bitch boy Caspers

[cosmic dragon]

True

[royal swan]

I so wanna do that

[ebon pilot]

https://tenor.com/view/jerma-stare-gif-25080910

[karmic egret]

yo im looking to upgrade my cpu to 5600

is it worth it

[royal swan]

Casper users are a bottom

[lilac crater]

Standard extended mag on the m5 or no?

[ebon pilot]

yes

[royal swan]

For the reason my box smashes them from up top

Going to play angel and kill friendly caspers

[fervent rose]

its been cheaper, but thats a good cpu

the newer stuff is good even on the low tiers

[cosmic dragon]

Mmm

[fervent rose]

surprising performance for a ~100 cpu

[cosmic dragon]

It’s okay if they’re defending on bt tho

But on cq 128

Sat at spawn

[sleek thistle]

dude

am i the only one having issues with the game servers?

it's been a while now that i have been facing some packet loss

https://streamable.com/fxazc6

look at this shit bruh

[lunar finch]

boots up battlefield

immediately turns on all chat

[sleek thistle]

what?

it's back?

[acoustic seal]

opt-in only so it's usually very sad and empty

[sleek thistle]

where is this option?

[acoustic seal]

dice don't fuck up a basic feature challenge (impossible)

hud options

[sleek thistle]

lol

didnt know ths

this

[lunar finch]

yrs

[arctic grove]

Are there any weapons in bf2042

Like specifically primaries

Primary’s?

That can deal damage to aircraft

[sleek thistle]

uhhh

probably

not sure

[acoustic seal]

ntw-50 and anything that gets armor piercing ammo

[sleek thistle]

the big antimaterial sniper

[acoustic seal]

i think a few LMGs get it

[arctic grove]

Nice

Are any of them actually effective though?

[acoustic seal]

no lol

[ebon pilot]

There's a railgun

it's ok

[arctic grove]

wait what

like primary rail gun?

[ebon pilot]

yeah

[arctic grove]

Not a class specific

[ebon pilot]

not class specific

[arctic grove]

shit I may try that

Cause I just want the most anti air fuck you build there is

[drowsy shuttle]

Not really

[ebon pilot]

railgun

railgun

[sleek thistle]

doubt this shit

[lunar finch]

i dont think its their fault, you cant force interaction if people don't want to use it they dont use it

[arctic grove]

what’s the rail gun considered?

[lunar finch]

utility

[acoustic seal]

inter team chat was never an issue in literally any game prior to this one, including previous battlefields

[ebon pilot]

or "tactical" as it's now called

[sleek thistle]

this thing?

wait

[arctic grove]

Ah I see it

[sleek thistle]

no way this actually exists

lmao

[lunar finch]

but they added it back just fine and team chat is always dead so all chat wouldnt be any different

[arctic grove]

The rorsch

Damn requires 10 headshot kills

this’ll take me 2 years

No joke

but it must be done

Guess I’ll just camp rooftop snipers with a sniper

Classy I know

[acoustic seal]

there's no reason to add another layer of dead by turning it off by default and then hiding the option

they're just spite changes

[arctic grove]

I already fucking love it

[sleek thistle]

bro can you even dive in water in this game?

[lilac crater]

I just need damage to vehicles with weapons to unlock rail gun

[lunar finch]

no not really thats just usually how settings work

[arctic grove]

Lmg and just spam any tank probably

Slow but consistent

[acoustic seal]

why is all chat suddenly a problem that needs to be hidden behind a setting?

[sleek thistle]

old bfs were better

you cant even go underwater in this game

[arctic grove]

you can’t?

[ebon pilot]

why would you?

[arctic grove]

Fair enough

[sleek thistle]

tf?

you never went underwater in bf4 to hide from bullets or to flank without seeing you ?:

[lunar finch]

its not, its just off by default because its a new setting some people would rather have off than on

[hybrid totem]

it's not a problem that needs to be hidden? What, did you want them to send notifications "All chat is disabled, would you like to enable it now?"

[arctic grove]

Honestly if they already spotted me there was a 99% chance they were gonna spray till I died

[sleek thistle]

then make it default on, being able to turn off

[sleek thistle]

literally not

like

[acoustic seal]

why is it an option? what's the use case for having it turned off?

[drowsy shuttle]

In bfv all chat was pretty toxic... not always but when was toxic was cod level of toxicity or worst... also im pretty sure Dice dont want the good players to bully the scrubs... i think this was the 2 main reasons all chat wasnt a thing since beginning in bf 2042

[sleek thistle]

what kind of fps game you cant go underwater

even csgo

[hybrid totem]

not having to listen to the other team I suppose

[sleek thistle]

has this feature

[ebon pilot]

a lot of maps in csgo just kill you if you jump in the water on the map

[ebon pilot]

people suck, i don't want to hear em

[mental delta]

Since I think specialists are a really bad addition to the franchise they could instead make more classes for the next game, like 6

Instead of specialists

[acoustic seal]

kill triggers are a per-map inclusion, water works as water by default

[sleek thistle]

but it exists

dont forget pool_day

[ebon pilot]

how could i forget when i never played on it

[safe bramble]

Ah yes, a team based shooter that allows you to disable any and all communication

[arctic grove]

Are there any weapons that start with armor piercing other than the anti material rifle?

[safe bramble]

THAT is irony

[sleek thistle]

[pseudo pecan]

will breakthrough xl come back again?

[sleek thistle]

i think i should go back to bf4

best idea tbh

[safe bramble]

Do it

bf4 may be a decade old but it's still awesome

[silk mango]

Thermal scope + underwater 💀

[ebon pilot]

teamwork in a battlefield? never in a million years

[sleek thistle]

no thermals in tanks

[ebon pilot]

even with chat enabled by default

[royal swan]

Just 1,000 more kills and I'm at the homestretch for a 2 kd

[safe bramble]

Bfbc2

[sleek thistle]

technology rewinded in this game

we have tanks like the Tor with that kind of gun, but no thermal scopes

[safe bramble]

Yea 2042 is advanced enough to have shitly balanced railgun tanks but somehow regresses in existing technology

[slender isle]

They are infact coming for tanks

[sleek thistle]

coming?

[slender isle]

Thermal sights on tanks

[royal swan]

Thermals are coming for vehicles. Later

[slender isle]

they're coming

like either in 4.2 or 5.0

[sleek thistle]

oh yeah i forgot they released the game in Pre Alpha and are only fixing it now

[royal swan]

Probably 5.0

[sleek thistle]

[arctic grove]

S5 probably

[hybrid totem]

I wonder if they always intended to add thermals

[royal swan]

Probably not

[slender isle]

Oh sorry I forgot adding content post launch is considered bad

[sleek thistle]

doesn't even make sense to not have thermals

[arctic grove]

Its called live service sir

[slender isle]

Ehh, not a lot of people see them as balanced

[royal swan]

It was the community feedback

[hybrid totem]

It does make sense that if infantry gets them, vehicles should also get them

[sleek thistle]

not bad, just stuff that should have been since the beginning

[hybrid totem]

oh thermals are stupid af

[safe bramble]

I wonder when attack helis are getting TV missiles or a meaningful secondary for gunners

[slender isle]

Thermals are dumb AF

[hybrid totem]

But if infantry gets them you can bet i'mma put em on my tank

[lunar finch]

i can guarantee you Dice wasnt sitting there rubbing their hands together making all chat hard to use. they literally tell you its back when u turn on the game

[sleek thistle]

y?

[fervent rose]

the thermal effects are pretty so now they must go on everything

[sleek thistle]

gimme a good argument, instead of "no skill"

[hybrid totem]

Because it takes relatively less effort to procure KD

[slender isle]

I will still stand by that DICE tried something new and it didn't work out. That's not to say it had "missing" content. They just had a vision and that vision didn't necessarily coincide with what we had in mind

[acoustic seal]

thermals are balanced by having their crosshairs misaligned

[royal swan]

Is it though

[slender isle]

See glowing person, shoot glowing person

[sleek thistle]

uuuh thats how it works irl?

[royal swan]

Truuue

[sleek thistle]

and?

[safe bramble]

Tries something new? They tried to copy Apex hardcore and failed

[royal swan]

I stopped using thermals because the sights are just so fucking dogshit

[hybrid totem]

and?

[slender isle]

Still tried something new for the series and it didn't pan out well

[hybrid totem]

If this were a simulator that argument might hold water

[sleek thistle]

gonna complain about the Tor too?

[safe bramble]

2042 was trying to imitate other games starkly different than a battlefield game

[fervent rose]

thermals are fine in 2042 so far

[eager spire]

The TOR is stupid.

everyone can agree on that.

[hybrid totem]

Nah, TOR is necessary because of nightbird elites

[fervent rose]

bf4 thermals were WACK though

[hybrid totem]

And transport overhealth

[royal swan]

Huh

[slender isle]

TOR is cool for everyone but other vehicle players

[sleek thistle]

they were decent tho

[safe bramble]

Unironically justifying a shit tank because of one vehicle

[sleek thistle]

black and white thermals >>> color thermals

[eager spire]

The TOR exists because vehicle balance in this game is wack, and if it were decent, there would be no need to have it in the game.

[slender isle]

BF4 thermals being able to see through smoke was just a lil unbalcned

[fervent rose]

they were wildly broken

[hybrid totem]

and transports

[fervent rose]

perma thermals that made seeing any target too easy

[sleek thistle]

uuuuhhh thats called realism

[eager spire]

It's like so many other things in the game. Solutions to problems caused by bad balancing decisions that DICE either doesn't realize are bad decisions, or can't fix.

[sleek thistle]

unless its thermal smokes

[eager spire]

consider this: Battlefield is not a realistic game.

I know.

Radical concept.

[slender isle]

OMG I FORGOT ABOUT REALISM IN MY ARCADE SHOOTER

[eager spire]

But hear me out.

[hybrid totem]

woah you're gonna summon znath with that kind of mouth

[eager spire]

You can't fly jeeps in real life by sticking a bunch of C4 on them.

[sleek thistle]

we're not talking about radical realism, not even to Arma 3 level

its just basic stuff

[eager spire]

And we're not even talking about realism, because that's not Battlefield's thing.

Thermals not being able to see through smoke is a gameplay and balance decision, not a realism thing.

[hybrid totem]

well if we're gonna go with realism, can we get accurate physics on air vehicles? Maybe make them weigh something

[copper fulcrum]

We're also not even talking

[slender isle]

If we're talking realism I want to not auto heal

[eager spire]

It would be ridiculously unfun to get shot through smoke because some rando happened to be running thermals while you're trying to use the smokes.

[slender isle]

I want to break my legs

[sleek thistle]

omg

lmao

[copper fulcrum]

You can do that easily

[ebon pilot]

deus ex style YEAH

[sleek thistle]

thats basic things

[eager spire]

If this game were realistic, it would not be any fun at all.

[slender isle]

I want to die of hypothermia and hyperthermia on both breakaway and hourglass

[eager spire]

You don't want that. Stop acting like you want that.

[safe bramble]

2042 gave historically vehicle only options to infantry for some reason

[sleek thistle]

lmao

look at this dude

[hybrid totem]

one bullet should cause you to start bleeding out

[sleek thistle]

comparing thermals seeing through smoke to breaking his legs and dying from hypothermia

[lunar finch]

get shot in any critical area and u cant be revived lmaoo

[sleek thistle]

[lunar finch]

actually just reviving off

[hybrid totem]

oh and revives? fugheddaboudit

[copper fulcrum]

Give us a Stamina system back

[hybrid totem]

also infinite spawns, no thanks. Die once, back to the main menu with you

[acoustic seal]

headshot stopping revives would be based honestly

[fervent rose]

we need a nice stamina system with really loud out of breath voice acting

[slender isle]

Hey you wanted realism

[slender isle]

The tarkov effect

[ebon pilot]

we already have the voice acting

just need the stamina

[sleek thistle]

the voice acting is dogshit in this game

lmao

so cringey

[slender isle]

Die once and it uninstalls the game and refunds it

[fervent rose]

the voice spam is also way too much

falck never shuts up

[eager spire]

ok

[hybrid totem]

refund??? I thought we were going for realism lol

[sleek thistle]

most times i just ignore it like i didnt hear it

[hybrid totem]

It would make you buy it again

[copper fulcrum]

You die once and get banned

[slender isle]

Sorry yes, you die in game you die in real life

[fervent rose]

i wish i could mute my own specialist voice acting

[hybrid totem]

oooh, pay per life

[eager spire]

you got any other original comments to make or are you just going down the list of typical comments people make.

[slender isle]

I don't think VrL knows what balancing a game means

[eager spire]

no

no they don't

[copper fulcrum]

He's gonna run out of things, get desperate and likely point out your name like that other guy, Lycan.

As a last ditch effort

[eager spire]

i'll laugh if that happens

[hybrid totem]

It's always amusing to watch the conglomeration of people jumping on anyone who brings up "realism"

[slender isle]

Who is lycan though that is the question @eager spire

[sleek thistle]

I don't think you know anything about making a game fairly realistic so it doesn't look like it was made in Roblox

[eager spire]

me

i am lycan.

[sleek thistle]

Thermals see through smoke. Cope about it

[slender isle]

😱

[sleek thistle]

"ooh but balancing"

[copper fulcrum]

Here's the thing though

balance

[eager spire]

I don't think you know anything about making a game fun to play.

[slender isle]

What if we're carrying thermal smokes

[fervent rose]

they dont in 2042 though.. so you can cope about that

[slender isle]

cause we can see through environmental smoke

[sleek thistle]

like making the game easier for noobs? ah yes

[hybrid totem]

wait are we talking realistic graphics, or realistic gameplay? get your story straight

[copper fulcrum]

Let's make smoke nearly useless and have everyone run thermals, great game design

[sleek thistle]

wdym environmental smoke bruh

[copper fulcrum]

Smoke created by the map

[fervent rose]

stuff thats on the map

[eager spire]

it would be easier for noobs if thermals could see through smoke because that would render smokes entirely useless for moving around the map.

[slender isle]

smoke thats on the map already

[sleek thistle]

like exploded vehicles?

[fervent rose]

not player smokes

[fresh lintel]

Smoke counters Molotovs and hides UI elements so its not entirely useless.

[eager spire]

unless that's what you want

[slender isle]

like the oil tankers on breakaway or the smoking tires

[fervent rose]

no like built in smoke that is always there on some maps

[fresh lintel]

And not everyone runs thermal default.

[hybrid totem]

Hey VrL I think they are talking about the smoke that exists on the maps already

[eager spire]

You also have to consider that the Plus System exists.

[fresh lintel]

The time it takes to put on thermal is time it takes for someone to revive

[sleek thistle]

smartass, burning stuff fuck up thermals because its HOT

[fervent rose]

and yea some destruction / smoke effects you can see through too

[dapper river]

looks like it

[hybrid totem]

I honestly don't see a lot of people running thermals anyway

[dapper river]

so sad!

[eager spire]

So, if someone were to say, notice a lot of smoke going up, they could switch to a thermal sight, and if the thermal sights saw through smoke, then all that effort put into trying to flank and move around would essentially be rendered useless by one person deciding to switch their sight, which takes about .2 seconds to do.

[slender isle]

I'm just telling you what smokes you can see through

[sleek thistle]

people wouldn't

[hybrid totem]

...because?

[copper fulcrum]

There's also the fact that you can throw smoke on yourself, hide in it and use thermal to kill people while in it with a cheesy strat

[slender isle]

Cause they suck atm. The reticle is missaligned and fucks with the accuracy

[hybrid totem]

ooh you should start suffocating while in smoke

[eager spire]

yes but that's obvious, i didn't think i needed to mention it.

[fresh lintel]

I mean considering how wide spread Smoke usage is, like every class gets it. And can spam it.

[eager spire]

I am working on the assumption that this guy has more than 2 brain cells. Which, I know, is a big assumption to make.

[copper fulcrum]

Just use Rao or Paik if you wanna see through smoke, case closed

NEXT

[lunar finch]

vehicle players....

[hybrid totem]

This guy said case closed y'all

that's it

[slender isle]

If we're talking realism, why am I able to carry and sprint with the ntw

[sleek thistle]

because its more confortable to use normal sights. Only a small number of people would run thermals on guns like the idiots that used to lay down with machineguns with thermal scopes on Locker

[fervent rose]

remember s2 paik thermals

that was a funny month

[slender isle]

Don't bring back those memorys

[fresh lintel]

I got in here to make fun of teabaggers and it seems like a bloodbath lmao

[eager spire]

except thermal sights didn't work through smokes in BF4 either because they patched that out

because it was cheesy there as well

[slender isle]

made the flare useless 😔

[hybrid totem]

oh and for realism? I want to actually dunk my nuts in another player's mouth. C'mon DICE

[copper fulcrum]

There's a reason why DICE decided to add skins that block thermals entirely in BF4 lol

[sleek thistle]

this guy...

[eager spire]

i mean the flare is only used by people who wanna be really fucking annoying

[lunar finch]

if we're talking realism why is there even a chat. i should have to use a half broken radio with static to communicate

[sleek thistle]

he simply can't argue

not arguments

lmao

[eager spire]

just because you don't agree with the things they're saying doesn't make them not arguments.

[hybrid totem]

I mean it's an online discussion, you're not gonna be swayed anyway

I'm just here to amuse myself

[sleek thistle]

skins? it was a single skin and not many people had them lol

[slender isle]

Really if we're talking realism we should bleed consistently once shot

[hybrid totem]

Because it was fuckign impossible to get

Like dedicated personal server deal

[sleek thistle]

then don't use it was an argument

[eager spire]

yeah but it was a thing everyone could get if they chose to.

[hybrid totem]

...that wasn't me dude

[eager spire]

It is still relevant.

[sleek thistle]

exceptions are not arguments

[lunar finch]

hp forever ticking down until we find a medic who can do a 10 minute animation to help us

[hybrid totem]

if you're gonna argue with the whole server, keep it straight

[copper fulcrum]

I should need to have to switch radio frequencies to talk to people and have the possibility of an enemy joining the channel

[slender isle]

10 minutes? if shot in the leg they have to cut it off cause it goes into sepsis cause we waited too long to get it out

1 legged mackay

[sleek thistle]

I am lol, you are the ones saying dumb stuff...

[hybrid totem]

angel crates would have to be pre-packed in the menu

ammo crates? You'd only get like, enough ammo for one gun, or maybe five bullets for each gun that could be picked up

[arctic grove]

How long does it take to get to level 60?

[hybrid totem]

med packs? What even is it, an aerosolized steroid?

[slender isle]

Our guns should jam

[sleek thistle]

[lunar finch]

hell why even play the game if we are talking realism. i want to have to play through boot camp to play the game

[hybrid totem]

Ooh and different guns jam more or less, like the AK just fires constantly

[sleek thistle]

these kids dude...

[slender isle]

10 week training course

[carmine rover]

angel has to do a 30 second animation to pull the bag from over his shoulder. unzip it. throw ammo. zip it. and put it back on his back

[hybrid totem]

No shortcuts in boot camp either

[lunar finch]

and you have to sign a waver to play

[slender isle]

We should slide on the ice on breakaway

[copper fulcrum]

I'm pretty sure Angel does actually have animations that have him swing his bag around when equipping it

[hybrid totem]

sign a waiver? You mean sign your life away for a service contract

[copper fulcrum]

but it's fast

[slender isle]

we should run slower on the sand on hourglass

[sleek thistle]

comparing basic realism details with breaking their legs and gun jamming

[eager spire]

i mean you did bring up realism

[slender isle]

Gun jamming is a basic realism detail

[hybrid totem]

I do believe he's beaten, boys

[slender isle]

guns do jam

[carmine rover]

animation of Irish building a fucking barricade for 10 minutes

[eager spire]

this is kind of your fault

[slender isle]

therefore gun jam is realistic

[sleek thistle]

not all the time.

[safe bramble]

Imagine if this chat contributed even half this energy telling dice to fix the game

[eager spire]

nobody said anything about guns jamming all the time

just jamming in general.

[slender isle]

I just said guns jam

[copper fulcrum]

EVERY SHOT FIRED

[hybrid totem]

Oh also you should have to select the correct ammo for your guns from ammo packs

[copper fulcrum]

JAM

[hybrid totem]

and reload mags manually

[torpid wadi]

Ultra realism

[eager spire]

i mean i do but then i'm told to stop that

[copper fulcrum]

Reloading is now a Quick-Time Event

[eager spire]

literally gears of war reloading

[fervent rose]

when the game starts you should have to set up logistical supply lines or everyone runs out of ammo

[hybrid totem]

with multiple button presses and timed holds, yes!

[eager spire]

...Why has that mechanic never been in an FPS game before?

[carmine rover]

okay if we are talking realism. when Zain gets a kill but is already shot. how does his passive work

[copper fulcrum]

Maybe it was patented?

[sleek thistle]

guns should jam in hardcore games. Not in battlefield. But thermals seeing through smoke is literally a physics rule, only thermal smoke avoid this

[slender isle]

Nano tech

[copper fulcrum]

Nanomachines, son

[hybrid totem]

Because realism sucks ass and we don't play video games for the frustrations of real life

[lunar finch]

you should have to refuel vehicles before driving or flying

[slender isle]

Hardcore? You mean realistic

[fervent rose]

physics? you know the physics that happen when 5 airburst explosions happen near your body

a defib doesnt fix that

[sleek thistle]

its not frustation lol, these thing makes sense

[safe bramble]

Clearly you dont play HLL or arma

[fresh lintel]

Also monthly DM7 needs a god damn nerf

[slender isle]

Literally tarkov. It's aiming for realism but more of a super duper hard realism. As in you'll lose blood and food faster than anything

[sleek thistle]

not related.

[eager spire]

1. Video games do not have to abide by physics.
2. The rationale for this happening has already been explained to you.

[slender isle]

HOW

[ebon pilot]

DM7 fucking SUCKS

[fresh lintel]

IT LITERALLY 3 SHOTS

IT SHOOTS FAST

[copper fulcrum]

The VCAR is a better DM7 ngl

[carmine rover]

how would Lis ability work in realism

[ebon pilot]

THE SPREAD IS AWFUL

[hybrid totem]

You're right, there is a market for milsim realism. What I meant to say is

Because realism sucks ass and we don't play video games Battlefield for the frustrations of real life

[slender isle]

If we're talking realism, why can't my hovercraft climb walls anymore 🥺 (DICE PLEASE)

[fervent rose]

the only "physics" that matter is predictable gravity simulation

[eager spire]

it wouldn't

[fresh lintel]

TIME YOUR SHOTS AT RANGE?

IT SHOULDNT 3 SHOT REGARDLESS

[slender isle]

Why?

[sleek thistle]

1. BF2042 favors trash players by making stuff "balanced". If you wanna balance a game, make a ranked mode.
2. There's not 2.

[lunar finch]

honestly not realistic enough, we should have to calculate the rotation of the earth when sniping

[ebon pilot]

THEN LITERALLY ANY OTHER GUN IS BETTER

[copper fulcrum]

If you need to time your shots at range

Why not just use an automatic then

[slender isle]

it's a slow firing semi auto weapon

[slender isle]

And the wind

[fervent rose]

i mostly mean it for like tracking a heli

[fresh lintel]

Again, RoF and its Magazine capacity. It realistically should be a 4 shot body

[arctic grove]

2042 is not Hell Let Loose

[copper fulcrum]

VrL just wants to abuse thermals and get cheesy kills so he's calling other players trash

[fresh lintel]

2 shot headshot I dont care about

[fervent rose]

but yes we definitely need 17 mechanics affecting each sniper bullet

[sleek thistle]

if you can't cope about having thermals that work realistically go play roblox

[copper fulcrum]

Nah

[arctic grove]

You could run engineer with sniper

[slender isle]

What we really need is grenades not being a big explosion but basically being a big shotgun pellet that explodes in all directions

[copper fulcrum]

If you can't cope with thermals not working with player created smoke, play CoD.

[eager spire]

1. Making things unbalanced favors trash players more than balancing things ever does.

2. Just because you refuse to read something does not mean it wasn't said, but i'll say it again for you. Thermals do not see through smoke in this game because it would be very cheesy for smoke pushes to be completely invalidated by a single attachment, not even mentioning the fact that someone could hide in smoke and shoot people from the smoke where they can't see them. It would get very annoying to play.

[sleek thistle]

that would be actually nice

[mental delta]

Hey yo play COD yourself man

[copper fulcrum]

Nah lol

Game's sub dog shit

[slender isle]

But... explosions look cool so I'll let it pass

[sleek thistle]

wonder why CoD has more players 😳

[fresh lintel]

I'm on both sides of the thermal debate, because I do hate how Smoke just says "Lol lmao" but at the same time I recognize that smoke would be borderline useless if thermals saw through them

[lilac crater]

SWS or dxr

[mental delta]

Nobody plays COD here, it's only OG game players here

[fresh lintel]

CoD died with MW19

[ebon pilot]

warzone

[copper fulcrum]

Because CoD is the fortnite of FPS games, players mostly play it because of it's reputation

[fervent rose]

last real cod was blops 4 and that was also kinda silly with the heroes

[sleek thistle]

2042 isn't OG...

[fervent rose]

that franchise is cooked

[eager spire]

man can't read

[mental delta]

Because it has more "action", but at the same time cosmetics ruined everything and it's even worse than BF2042 cosmetics

[sleek thistle]

no. Even MP has more players than 2042

[karmic egret]

1942 came out in 2004

[lunar finch]

thermals dont even work through smoke in mw2 right?

[mental delta]

BF2042 shouldn't even exist

[lunar finch]

im pretty sure they changed it this year

[slender isle]

Okay guys, time to go play some Wolfenstein 3D

only OG games here

[royal swan]

Oh man I love talking shit to a enemy and killing him few seconds later

[ebon pilot]

*2002

the OSX release was 2004

[karmic egret]

my bad

[slender isle]

Quake multiplayer time

[eager spire]

https://open.spotify.com/album/2XS5McKf3zdJWpcZ4OkZPZ?si=Q11ChVC0Q_e0Fu0455AIsQ shut up, 100 gecs

[slender isle]

TF and Half life TDM

[copper fulcrum]

Unreal Tournament

[copper fulcrum]

wtf is this band

[sleek thistle]

thb, they should just make BF3 and BF4 with better graphics, like the full game, not like Portal

[slender isle]

Cat scratching a black board with synth waves

[eager spire]

i think it's a duo. also they're the best thing to happen to modern music.

[carmine rover]

hiii lycan meow

[hybrid totem]

ah, finally we can agree on something

[eager spire]

hi

[sleek thistle]

this chat is called battlefield-2042

[carmine rover]

ur a cool person 🥺

keep it up

🫶

[fresh lintel]

Nou

[slender isle]

You really think a game that's less than a decade old, that is then remade with basically the same mechanics would sell at 70$? That feels stupid

[copper fulcrum]

Why does that emoji exist when the heart emoji exists?

[slender isle]

unless they actually add all the dlc maps from the start and then add more after

[eager spire]

different vibe

[royal swan]

Positive energy, in this chat? I forbid it

[slender isle]

and fix all the balance problems

[sleek thistle]

why 70$? is this like a rule or smth?

[hybrid totem]

resident evil 4 did it

[slender isle]

It's a new game

[copper fulcrum]

Resident Evil 4 was a remake with new shit added really

[eager spire]

modern games typically sell for $70 these days, inflation or some shit idk

[slender isle]

RE4 is 2 decades old almost, and has all new combat mechanics and story elements

[carmine rover]

it cute :3

[fervent rose]

resident evil 4 is a million times easier to remake than bf3

[royal swan]

It's*

[hybrid totem]

so remake b43 or 4 and just add new stuff

[fervent rose]

yall just dont understand costs if you think its equivalent

[mental delta]

Yeah they still struggle to understand BF players put more interest in actual content and gameplay rather than upon cosmetics

[slender isle]

BF4 has what like 35 maps and 120 weapons

that;s a lot to remake

[lunar finch]

well because resident evil 4 is a good game unlike bf3

[slender isle]

cause if all that content isn't there at launch it's stupid

[hybrid totem]

I mean not really, the physics and balance was already there

[slender isle]

cause why would I spend 70$ on bf4 remaster when I can just get the OG premium edition for 15$

[sleek thistle]

I think they should release the game already fixed

[hybrid totem]

I say this with very little video game development experience though

[ebon pilot]

70 of those weapons are basically just the same thing with slightly different attachments

[hybrid totem]

wait would it even be a battlefield title then?

[copper fulcrum]

lol

[eager spire]

I mean, i doubt the codebase for BF4 still exists after all this time, and even then, the team at DICE is completely different than the team that made BF4.

[fervent rose]

remaking bf3 in a way that does bf3 justice AND breaks modern ground would cost like 5-10x as much as re4 remake @lunar finch

[slender isle]

RE4R was built from the ground up. New engine and all that

[sleek thistle]

wouldn't be made by EA

[hybrid totem]

yes but the same basic game. The game design was already complete

[lilac crater]

Okay but guys DXR or sws

[sleek thistle]

wouldn't even be made actually, today's games are always released broken

[slender isle]

Now, does everyone like the portal content that we currently have?

[slender isle]

Like I said before, the major game mechanics (combat and story) were changed

[eager spire]

I feel like Portal is a lot of wasted effort.

[slender isle]

combat was completely changed

Story was slightly changed with new areas added and all that

[royal swan]

Rpk is really nice

[lilac crater]

I’d love the m98b to come through or the SRS

[sleek thistle]

didnt even play portal yet

[slender isle]

If we don't like the portal content, then we won't like BC2 or BF3 or BF4 remastered

[ebon pilot]

portal is a nice change of pace, so I like it

[slender isle]

since that's what portal is

[eager spire]

A lot of people just use Portal to make milsim hardcore bullshit because they can't play the game, and the few unique uses for the editor get overshadowed by people stuffing 128 players on everything because they think that's funny.

[royal swan]

I was able to kill a transport heli with a stinger, felt like David fighting Goliath

[lunar finch]

ok but would a bf3 remake have hot Leon in 4k? No?

[copper fulcrum]

Portal is just custom games but with previous battlefield game content mixed in

[slender isle]

Fortnite does

[sleek thistle]

Idk bro Portal is just custom servers lol

[slender isle]

Wrong

[lunar finch]

already bought the skin and ion even play fortnite anymore

[eager spire]

It's a safe haven for people that don't like actually playing the game.

[fervent rose]

did you buy it for a high price

[ebon pilot]

the editor is bad for anything more complex than simple logic changes, give me a normal programming language DICE

[sleek thistle]

then what is it then lol

[fervent rose]

whoops wrong reply but either way

[sleek thistle]

all I see in Portal are farm servers

and some hardcore ones

[eager spire]

LIKE I SAID

[slender isle]

It has 6 remastered maps from previous BF games and I think 60 weapons from previous BF games. So basically it's a way to play those old games modernised (to an extent)

[eager spire]

WASTED EFFORT.

It's more than this community deserves.

[slender isle]

People just don't use portal properly

cause they're dumb

[fervent rose]

portal content is mostly subpar

[eager spire]

nobody was ever going to use it "properly"

[sleek thistle]

does it even have all the guns?

[slender isle]

tf you mean all the guns?

of course it doesn't

[sleek thistle]

all the guns

[placid echo]

i use it properly

[sleek thistle]

then its not equal as a remaster

[eager spire]

mod jumpscare

anyway

[slender isle]

think it's missing like 4 of the base game BC2 weapons

[placid echo]

They have been adding more guns though

[fervent rose]

like the maps they chose are not the best

[crimson basin]

Is portal even used for anything other than xp and hardcore servers?

[eager spire]

...no

[slender isle]

Like I said, it's just a way to play certain maps and weapons remastered and modernized

[eager spire]

barely.

[placid echo]

https://bfportal.gg/

[torpid wadi]

Do wish they would add more maps

[sleek thistle]

totally different from a remaster

a remaster is the same game, same mechanics, new graphics and physics

[slender isle]

Well no. You have content from previous games to play. If you do not enjoy that content, then you won't enjoy the remaster

[fervent rose]

i use nonames aim trainer, thats kinda cool

[sleek thistle]

new != different

[sleek thistle]

literally not

[fervent rose]

but actual mp portal lobbies are all exploit servers or trash hc

[slender isle]

What? So if they released the BC2 stuff we have now and just shoved in the rest of BC2 maps, you'd enjoy it and play it?

[sleek thistle]

I bet BF4 has more full servers than BF2042

literally

I always get matches full of bots in this game

[slender isle]

On portal maybe?

In OCE we have 1 bf4 lobby that's locker and 1 that needs premium

in 2042 we have like 3 portal servers doing stuff and usually full while quick match takes 2 seconds

[lunar finch]

on console bf4 is dead except 24/7 Golmud Lobbies but those people are going to hell

[eager spire]

BF4 has a few active servers. I don't play it anymore though, because the game has largely gotten stale, it's all just the same people playing the same way.

[sleek thistle]

PC i mean

[safe bramble]

2042 players play the same way all the time too

I sometimes think their bots

[eager spire]

well i don't play 2042 either so

:V

[sleek thistle]

yeah its full of dumb people

BF4 players were different

[lunar finch]

nahhhh

[eager spire]

nah.

[slender isle]

You either get amazing players or dumb players there really isn't an inbetween on 2042

[fervent rose]

false

[sleek thistle]

people actually did medic stuff there

[lunar finch]

majority of bf players are just dumb af

[fervent rose]

its like 5% dumber due to crossplay

but bf players are always.. lacking

[slender isle]

BF4 players when they're use the AEK and small med pack 😱

[edgy oriole]

idk why people have false memory of teamplay being big in past bf games

[eager spire]

it's all AEK/ACE-23/Med Kit. Or occasionally shotgun.

[slender isle]

Then you see one person with like an ump or M98B

[eager spire]

because they're gaslighting themselves.

[safe bramble]

I've seen riot shields and poison bows iddk

[lunar finch]

yeah i played a lot of bf4 and bf1 and dont remember any outstanding teamplay its all in their heads lmao

[fervent rose]

the only teamplay that ever occurred was zerg revive spamming / ammo box explosive spam abuse

[slender isle]

BFV was mainly like reliant on medics and their being hardly any ammo

outside of that though there isn't

[copper fulcrum]

lighting gas is fun

[eager spire]

i've genuinely never seen a riot shield. poison bows are only run by dipshits and i don't play on servers with them.

[sleek thistle]

just like the RM68 here

[edgy oriole]

i mean bfv was a few years ago, but they literally added a feature to let people grab supplies from supports bc they dont teamplay

[sleek thistle]

except people will run over your body and won't ress you

[slender isle]

I haven't touched it outside of solo

[fervent rose]

fantastic feature too

[sleek thistle]

cool

i did

and 98% of people also did

the ones who unlocked it

because its meta

[slender isle]

My main weapon is the M16 and the Gol. Also sometimes the P90 and the RPT

[sleek thistle]

M16 is also pretty meta

[slender isle]

BeCaUsE iTs MeTa

[sleek thistle]

yeah lol

[slender isle]

who tf cause about a meta in a BF game

[sleek thistle]

uuhhhhhhh

[fresh lintel]

Sweats.

[slender isle]

All I know is people use the weapon they find the most fun

[sleek thistle]

not sweats lol

people who actually want to win

[eager spire]

this game's gunplay is wack anyway.

[fresh lintel]

So sweats-

If you want to win you pray you alone can carry 63 other players.

[sleek thistle]

I'm using the AK-24 because I like AKs and it's great

[fervent rose]

i find that it's pretty lame to release broken guns each season, turning fights into "who uses this season's flavor of the month"

[fresh lintel]

The answer is you cant. So its sweats. People who want to win a 1V1 and not the game, because winning is objectively pointless. Lmao

[sleek thistle]

can't. 128 lobbies are full of bots anyways

[eager spire]

i tried using the AK-24 to have fun. I eventually just uninstalled the game.

[fresh lintel]

Exactly

[eager spire]

because I was not having fun.

[slender isle]

Like most engineers seem to use the DM7 or the LCMG. Then most supports use the PP29 or PBX or really any of the smgs. Most recon use SWS, DXR or the GOL. Assaults use whatever they want, just not the ACWR lmao

[sleek thistle]

well

[fresh lintel]

AK24 was my second T1, its the most alright gun ive used.

[slender isle]

What region you in?

Asia?

[sleek thistle]

SA

[slender isle]

South Asia?

[sleek thistle]

america...

[slender isle]

Ahhh

[ebon pilot]

AK-24 is funny

Look at this beautiful gun

[slender isle]

I'm pretty sure there's a brazil group that runs a pretty large portal group

I hopped into it like a month ago

[eager spire]

I do wish this game was better, but it's just not.

[sleek thistle]

yeah theres always full lobbies there

[slender isle]

128p conquest and rush

[fresh lintel]

That is the ugliest-

[safe bramble]

im pretty sure going to brazil is supposed to be a punishment

[slender isle]

Wtf

[fresh lintel]

Drum mags are genuinely the ugliest things ive seen

[slender isle]

Well why not just use that? It's the same as using the server browser in previous games

[sleek thistle]

they look so cool

[arctic grove]

Lowkey agree, I like extended mags tho

[fervent rose]

the extended looks so much better on that AK

[sleek thistle]

bc new games should have populated official servers

[fervent rose]

ugly drummy

[royal swan]

Just play the rpk then

[sleek thistle]

also no queue

[fervent rose]

but the rpk sucks

[royal swan]

Not really

[slender isle]

You're in possibly the least populated region outside of the middle east

[fervent rose]

if im using an lmg category it isnt rpk

[royal swan]

Its identical or better than the ak

[slender isle]

RPK is cracked out

5 hit out to 40m

[sleek thistle]

More like a city with 10 million habitants

São Paulo

[slender isle]

Woah, that's crazy

[sleek thistle]

still finding bots tho

[slender isle]

large population does not mean large gaming population on a game such as battlfield

[sleek thistle]

yeah. But its the most populated one

[fervent rose]

even NA has a small bf population

at least compared to europe, its small

[prisma jacinth]

why is the update to add All Chat 1.12 GB?

[sleek thistle]

with probably the biggest gaming population too, not sure tho

[slender isle]

Hell OCE which is meant to have a small pop has big FPS populations

like COD, BF, Squad, HLL, Arma

just all that

[prisma jacinth]

did they need to like rewrite the frostbite engine to support all chat

[slender isle]

big pops

[slender isle]

Doubt it. I think it was in the game for like FFA and they just made it work for team games

[ebon pilot]

damn it 2042 why won't you open

persistence errors and stuff

[sleek thistle]

calm bro

its still in Beta

[safe bramble]

Closing the ea app and launching works for me

[slender isle]

🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣 😐

[sleek thistle]

looks biased to me

mfs are still fixing a game

AKA Beta

[slender isle]

I'm sorry. might I ask when you started playing BF4?

[median furnace]

why does the ea app have to scan the entire game when making a 35mb update?

[slender isle]

It's patching files

[median furnace]

so fucking annoying having to wair 2 hours for a 34mb update

[sleek thistle]

we're not even talking about BF4 bruh

[median furnace]

patching surely cant take that long

[arctic grove]

Although I wish bf games didn’t launch broken, I dont think despite their launch states none of them have ever had the issues 2042 has, aka technical issues combined with bad core design

[slender isle]

Depends on you drive

[arctic grove]

TLDR BF4s problems were technical related but everything else was good to go

[slender isle]

But like I stated earlier: DICE tried something new and it didn't pan out. It's not that the core design was broken it's just not what we wanted. Like it probably would've lifted off if it didn't have the BF name to it. Technically it was fixed way way way before BF4 ever was

[ebon pilot]

i aint workin

[slender isle]

Like BF4 took till final stand to become playable fully with no crashes on my machine

2042 has been technically playable since launch, and then smooth since Jan 22

[arctic grove]

IMO both games took the same amount of time to be acceptable. With BF4 it was like six months for some, 2042 about the same timeframe

Depending on if you place that at the April or June 2022 updates

[sleek thistle]

I think the ideal is eventually opening some closed beta servers so people give feedback during the game development

[slender isle]

Once the jan patch came through it was fine. Really it was full playable once that damn revive glitch got fixed

[arctic grove]

It still had a lot of weird glitches and QoL stuff missing till April/June imo, both updates were facelifts. Everything before then helped but only with certain stuff

[magic bloom]

I think it also depends on your idea of a Good Game

[granite island]

Imagine shutdown

[magic bloom]

Like people somehow say MW2 is a Good Game

[granite island]

But instead of tiny emp things

[arctic grove]

I’d just rather not see battlefield compromise on stuff like legacy features and executive design with how they execute monetization, which is why we have specialists and all chat a whole year after the games been out

[granite island]

It's fight over the emp tower

Or defend it

[fervent rose]

it pains me seeing cod turn into whatever mw2 is

[sleek thistle]

just another cod tbh

[fervent rose]

from cod4 to that

[magic bloom]

Well it’s not cause activision isnt Part of it

[slender isle]

I mean we had multiple creators saying "BF needs something new to stay relevant" which is what they tried to do but it backfired

they are a company after all

[arctic grove]

I don’t really hate all chat taking a year to get here though since it took till last December for dice to say the game was in a place they wanted it to be at

[slender isle]

if they don't stick with the trends it'll fizzle out like MOH

[sleek thistle]

they simply released it before it was finished

just like Cyberpunk

[arctic grove]

If anything battlefields best option is not to change anything at all (at least executive stuff). Roll frostbite back, don’t entertain the concept of specialists ever again

[granite island]

No wait, I like specialist

Keep the gadgets

[fervent rose]

battlefield and moh are wildly different

[magic bloom]

Like damn near every modern Video Game it’s not a fault of the devs or the Game it’s a fault of Video Games as a whole

[sleek thistle]

specialists are nice

[fervent rose]

nobody makes anything like battlefield besides DICE

[slender isle]

MOH is just COD but with a BF skin on it and no destruction

[magic bloom]

MOH was epic

[sleek thistle]

tf is moh

[magic bloom]

Medal of Honor

[slender isle]

Medal of Honor

[sleek thistle]

aaah

yeah completely different

[slender isle]

EAs really only COD type

[eager spire]

Warfighter didn't seem like a bad game.

[magic bloom]

Warfighter was fucking epic

[slender isle]

Warfighter had a really cool attachment system

[magic bloom]

It’s attachment System was bitchin

Whenever someone sticks me with the SPH at close range i Full Speed sprint at them

[arctic grove]

All I know for BF to do is just have a fleshed out game of mechanics, content and customization. Idefk lol

Just give me BF4 2.0

[sleek thistle]

Bro idk i have a feeling futuristic shooters jus't don't work out

[sleek thistle]

a remaster would be amazing

[slender isle]

All BF is is a class based, large scale arcade FPS shooter with destruction and vehicles

[magic bloom]

I like this genre of “futuristic”

[slender isle]

That's it

[fervent rose]

nothing wrong with futuristic if done right

[magic bloom]

Cause they have tech we already have now

[slender isle]

that's all BF is

[fresh lintel]

They can, its just the futuristic games we got either got botched hard due to Development hell or the game is CoD.

[fervent rose]

but 2042 isnt futuristic at all

[arctic grove]

Near future is fine. I’m personally not big on the general aesthetics of futuristic stuff

[sleek thistle]

it is pretty much futuristic

[magic bloom]

2042 Just has tech we already have

[slender isle]

What about rail tank 🥺

[sleek thistle]

Tor?

[fervent rose]

only the rorsch and tor

[fresh lintel]

Its borderline futuristic.

Not even near future.

[fervent rose]

2 pieces of content out of the entire game

[arctic grove]

Most vehicles and weapons actually exist today/are entering production or service, exceptions being like the tor tank turret n what not

[magic bloom]

We have railguns Just Not That Small of railguns

[arctic grove]

Rorsch, nvk and the pistol too ye

[sleek thistle]

but still

[magic bloom]

iirc there were plans to mount a railgun to an Abrams chasis

[fervent rose]

isnt the railgun too big

[sleek thistle]

no recoil?

[fervent rose]

the one ground one they have

[magic bloom]

Yeah they were mounted on ships

I mean in theory railguns dont have recoil

[fresh lintel]

The only things capable of handling the energy requirements

[sleek thistle]

bro fr

a cold war themed bf would be cool

a new one

[magic bloom]

Not even the railguns needed their own power supply

[fresh lintel]

They canned the railgun development for those impossible to hit missilesm

The super fuck off speed ones.

Because yknow. We need more world ending shit that cant be shot down.

[magic bloom]

I doubt we actually canned the railgun project

They probably just Said we did

[fresh lintel]

Canned in the sense of: Most funds arent going to railguns anymore apparently

[magic bloom]

Cause if we can figure a way to make the railguns track targets we can shoot down anything

[arctic grove]

Something like Black Ops 1 is a great example of a Cold War gone hot scenario

[sleek thistle]

yeah lol

like in the 80's

[magic bloom]

Unpopular opinion I liked black ops Cold War

[arctic grove]

Some people want Vietnam but I feel like that is a very restrictive theme and hasn’t aged well for live service and people’s expectations for content

[sleek thistle]

no wingsuits, no railguns

[sleek thistle]

didn't play it

[sleek thistle]

vietnam is boring

[fresh lintel]

Vietnam should be reserved for DLC/Optional content. Because it really is just.. Limiting.

[sleek thistle]

exact

[fresh lintel]

Unless you want to put a twist to it. Like Mechs.

[fervent rose]

you can do forests outside of vietnam

wild i know

[sleek thistle]

then it would die

[safe bramble]

So 2142

[fresh lintel]

Then its not vietnam anymore.

[magic bloom]

I mean wing suits existed at the time

[sleek thistle]

for soldiers?

[eager spire]

Black Ops Cold War was an annoying CoD to play on PC. Plus it doesn't help that it has the worst meta out of all the modern CoD games. Dual magnums, shotgun secondaries, and bolt actions.

[magic bloom]

Wing suits dont Even exist for soldiers Now

[arctic grove]

It’s be one Argonne esque map, or a few (), maybe an urban map in Saigon or something, theeeeeen

das it

[magic bloom]

Not normal soldiers anyway maybe special forces used them i dont Know

Me and the boys running through battlefield Saigon as the Vietcong

[sleek thistle]

nah

people like cool stuff

cold war is cool

[eager spire]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[magic bloom]

Maybe for you

Not for everyone

[slender isle]

Cold war is just a bunch of proxy wars with no actual full military

[sleek thistle]

RUSSIA vs US is also cool, because theyre just natural enemies

[slender isle]

so you know, not really a BF game

[sleek thistle]

wdym

[magic bloom]

Russia VS US is overused especially now

Since we Now Know what we Know

[slender isle]

Like if we're doing cold war, it doesn't necesarrily work for a BF setting

[sleek thistle]

then what is it going to be?

[eager spire]

i am impartial to any war time period, i feel like arguing over "Cold War was cooler than Vietnam/WW2 was cooler than WW1/Afghanistan was cooler than Cold War" is a bit of a weird thing to spend your time on.

[slender isle]

it's not a war

hence ht ecold war

it's cold

no real action took place

[magic bloom]

US VS China

Cause they’re an actual threat to the US

[slender isle]

Can't do that, not in todays climat

[arctic grove]

Long as it’s in the 21st century it’ll engage my brain activity

[slender isle]

1242

[sleek thistle]

we have this in BF4, was also cool

[arctic grove]

[slender isle]

go all the way back

[magic bloom]

Can do whatever we want

[slender isle]

we fighting with bows and arrows

[lilac crater]

Unlocked the scar.. how to wait for it to find a game

[sleek thistle]

Natives vs Colonizers

[eager spire]

ehhh

[fresh lintel]

"This bot out scored you"

Me, a blasco. With a DM7. Roaming.

The bot, as Mackay and Zain. Camping in a high population area with a SMG or AR. Getting one more kill than me.

[sleek thistle]

anyways

[slender isle]

I'd honestly love for like a crazy alternate history style game. It's just romans with weaponry way too advanced for them verses the english with weapons way too advanced for them too

[eager spire]

that just sounds like it'll end up being racist

[slender isle]

That's closer to the 17th century

13th century is like way way way before colonization

[sleek thistle]

its history, unfortunately... didn't want to sound racist tho

anyways

[slender isle]

unless you count vikings

[sleek thistle]

about CW not being a War...

[fresh lintel]

The word Colonizer is already bordering on that tbh.

[sleek thistle]

you had the Gulf War

[slender isle]

So you want a gulf war game

[lilac crater]

Nobody playing rush right now it seems

[fresh lintel]

Rush kinda sucks with 2042

[sleek thistle]

same thing as cold war

[slender isle]

I'd actually prefer we get a korean war

[sleek thistle]

pretty much

[ebon pilot]

not if you want money from the massive market that is china itself

[fresh lintel]

It doesnt have the same oomf as BF3 rush

[magic bloom]

I would actually love to see the first gulf war as a battlefield game

[slender isle]

not at all

[lilac crater]

What is the go to game mode for 2042 then? Conquest?

[sleek thistle]

Cold war tech. That's what I mean

[fresh lintel]

Breakthrough and Conq

[slender isle]

Cold war is called that because it has the absence of combat

[magic bloom]

First Gulf war was fought over oil quite literally

[slender isle]

Right

[slender isle]

Not again

[fervent rose]

its bad. the layouts are bad. 32 feels like not enough players, too

[fresh lintel]

Its the size of the locales in that case. If they brought back BF3 maps and their rush modes you'd notice those 32 players

[fervent rose]

and the MAV is so obnoxious

[sleek thistle]

imagine

[lilac crater]

Time to test the scar.. wish me luck guys

[slender isle]

Guys, why don't we just have the korean war?

North vs south, with US forces mixed in

[fresh lintel]

The SCAR is busted. So do have fun lmao

[magic bloom]

It would be broken down to just another Vietnam

[eager spire]

what Asto said and also WW3 tried doing that.

[silk mango]

I only play conquest unless there’s an event

[eager spire]

You can guess how well that worked out considering i said WW3 did it.

[fresh lintel]

WW3?

That game came out?

[eager spire]

yes

such as it is.

[slender isle]

No no I mean go back to the korean war like the actual war

not a new one

the old one

[fresh lintel]

Goes to show how bad it did then lmao

[eager spire]

yeah

[magic bloom]

It would be another Vietnam man

[fervent rose]

korean war is such a random choice for "battlefield"

[fresh lintel]

I almost forgot that was in development

[slender isle]

but also WW3 didn't fail based on it';s theme, it was bad business management

[magic bloom]

Plus I don’t think the Korean War ever technically ended

[sleek thistle]

F-14 vs MiG-23, early M4A1s, AK-47s, Abrams vs T-72A or B

[fervent rose]

they need to do fictional stuff

[sleek thistle]

cold war BF would be great

[arctic grove]

Nope

[sleek thistle]

not fiction

[slender isle]

How so? We had vietnam, whatever BC is, WW1 of all thhings

[eager spire]

meh the concept of the game is bad, the whole "slow/tactical" approach they tried doing, the weight system, it all just contributed to a game that sucked ass.

[slender isle]

Not really

[slender isle]

The weight thing was to balanced loadouts

[magic bloom]

We saw how that played out our forces literally smacked them around

[sleek thistle]

also no CoD movement mechanics like we had in 2042

[slender isle]

tf you mean? you wanna remove sliding?

[magic bloom]

Sliding Is nice

[fervent rose]

[fresh lintel]

The modern movement mechanics that are actually fun?

[eager spire]

it was dumb. the game didn't need to be slow. if the game didn't have the weight system, it would've been better.

[sleek thistle]

they copied MW 2019

[fervent rose]

if they go back to bf1 terrible movement im gonna be so sad

[magic bloom]

Plus sliding isnt a “cod mechanic”

[sleek thistle]

except they did it poorly

[lilac crater]

I just had a little game with it and so far I like it! What’s it’s range like? If doesn’t seem difficult to control at all up to medium

[fresh lintel]

Sliding is not a MW19 mechanic.

[slender isle]

They didn't

[magic bloom]

You cant copy something That Games did before

[slender isle]

at all

[sleek thistle]

ok then

Slide cancel, tactical spring, shooting with parachute

[fervent rose]

they definitely did with tac sprinting

[slender isle]

Are we talking about tac sprint? as in traversal sprint? as in the thing that makes you run faster forever

[sleek thistle]

everything from cod

[magic bloom]

You could always shoot while parachuting

[fresh lintel]

Depends. If you're on console you can out snipe snipers if you aim well.

It has nasty range is what i'm saying. And its like a 2 shot headshot in CQC.

[slender isle]

Shooting with parachute was in bf3

[sleek thistle]

fine then

[magic bloom]

By That logic cod copied Insurgency sandstorm with sliding

[slender isle]

I'm not even sure wtf slide cancelling means. You can jump out of slide in BFV

[magic bloom]

See how that works out

[sleek thistle]

now the tac sprint and slide cancel was stupid

[lilac crater]

Ooo, nice! I only had chance to nab three kills as I joined as it was finishing but I really like it so far!

[sleek thistle]

bro didn't play a Cod game

[fervent rose]

being able to move around fast in bf is fun

i wish we had bfv slide in 2042

[slender isle]

By all this COD actually copied BF1

[magic bloom]

You clearly don’t understand a joke

[fresh lintel]

Yeah its really good right now. And then you get other Underbarrel options. So you can do HE and AP.

[white sparrow]

I wish we had the slide and the leaning

[slender isle]

Just with better animations

[eager spire]

Slide cancelling was a unintended mechanic that MW19 had. If you slid and then did another slide input mid-slide, you cancelled the slide and were able to ADS and shoot immediately.

[sleek thistle]

you said by that logic... not even a joke

[fresh lintel]

Leaning would be neat but I can see that slowing down the gameplay a little bit.

[slender isle]

2042 has that? I just jump turn

[fervent rose]

leaning with 2042 maps? no ty

[magic bloom]

You don’t Talk here enough I always say Shit like that

[arctic grove]

BF1 movement was fine. Like I’d say V has better movement cause crouch sprint, back prone, manual lean, but it’s fine

[white sparrow]

It was in bfv

[eager spire]

i don't think 2042 has it. MW19 definitely has it, that's where the term originated from.

[magic bloom]

Makes me sound like a no Life lol

[fervent rose]

i liked leaning in bfv but 2042 doesnt need it

[fresh lintel]

And by that I mean I can see LMG users leaning and obliterating everyone because their chest is smaller.

[sleek thistle]

lol

[arctic grove]

It’s really not that slow tbh because most guns besides snipers are only effective at short to medium ranges anyway

[eager spire]

BF1 movement was gimped because people hated players being able to move effectively.

[lilac crater]

I’m struggling to find which sniper is best from the sws and DXR though

[fresh lintel]

Didnt play it much

[slender isle]

BF1 movement was good at launch

then got nerfed and was bad'

[fresh lintel]

Snipers are kinda poopy tbh. I just use the SWS.

[white sparrow]

I used to only show my hand and my gun, then they were dead lol

[slender isle]

Gol

[lunar finch]

2042 has amazing movement tbh

[slender isle]

Agreed

[fresh lintel]

2042 Movement is really nice.

[magic bloom]

The movement is so nice

[sleek thistle]

yeah because they copied the amazing movement from MW 2019

[lunar finch]

i wish theyd remove the accuracy penalty for jumping while shooting though

[white sparrow]

I like the movement but leaning would make it even better imo

[fresh lintel]

I miss BF3 but this games movement is such a step up

[arctic grove]

Eh, I don’t think a WW1 game needed a large emphasis on le movement anyway, which is the only case I will ever agree on with bf1 choosing theme over gameplay. Slide isn’t that fundamentally important to me

[sleek thistle]

next bf they'll add the dolphin dive

[white sparrow]

Lmao

[fervent rose]

we bf2 again

[fresh lintel]

If they do i'm maining shotties.

[fervent rose]

i miss the dolphin dive

[lunar finch]

you should not be playing 2042 so slow ur leaning around corners

[magic bloom]

I mean all arguments aside who really cares it makes the game better

[arctic grove]

Movement felt just fine when I can run around and if necessary do a dive or slide into cover, let shooting your gun and positioning determine a gunfight

[lunar finch]

no one even leaned in bf4

[fervent rose]

bf2 movement was cracked

[white sparrow]

You clearly never played competitive battlefield

[fervent rose]

they had to tone it down hard

[sleek thistle]

wasn't this like automatic?

[slender isle]

I won't lie to you. 2042 feels completely different to MW19