battlefield-2042

[glacial quarry]

he wasn’t outright headshotting eveyone

but he was in a RAM and it felt like his lmg had 100% hit rate

and yeah 40-50% hs rate is insane

on automatic weapons too

even K30

[arctic grove]

And to add on to my second paragraph; 2042 literally retains faction differences for announcers, AI modes, vehicle skins, and even out of squad teammate voice lines in the native faction language… why are character models completely exempt? lol

I mean I do know why but Jesus

[copper ice]

k30 headshots

[glacial quarry]

K30 legit takes 5 headshots to kil

and this guy has 40%

im not buying that shit hes hacking

[copper ice]

there's no way

[fervent rose]

anything above 30% is highly suspicious for a rof smg

[copper ice]

especially in 2042 with the fucking 1.25x multiplier

[glacial quarry]

enders is one of the best players his HS rate is only 24%

[fervent rose]

yup

most "great players" arent hitting 1/3 headshot kills

[copper ice]

i cant even kill someone with the k30 without shitting an extra 5 bullets minimum at their corpse

[glacial quarry]

mines only 21%

that dude is 100% hacking

gave him the benefit of doubt during our match cuz he was in a vehicle

[fervent rose]

my k30 is 22%

40%+ is fucking cheating

[glacial quarry]

but his stats are just straight up a cheater’s lmao

[granite island]

I can't place down the lance

[ebon pilot]

Of all specialist gadgets in the game, there's only two that make sense in any combat encounter: Dozer's riot shield which takes 1 second to take out and Irish's hard cover. Using any of the others will probably get you killed.

[arctic grove]

Eh, I use Mackay grapple depending on stuff around me for quick verticality

[granite island]

It says L1+R1 but that opens up the weapon attachment stuff

[ebon pilot]

If you use that while someone is aiming at you you will die

[granite island]

I can't place it down

[fervent rose]

you posted a clip showing how rao's is used in combat

[onyx mica]

yes

[glacial quarry]

his hs rate is def a hacker’s but his kpm with the guns are so low

[fervent rose]

mackay grapple is used to setup combat, sundance the same way

i've even used grapple mid fight to juke people

[onyx mica]

mackay spent few sec looking up is sweet target

[fervent rose]

and how can you forget zain

[last swift]

Rao is a hacker

[copper ice]

zain, sundance if theres cover, crawford to block line of sight, falck, paik (admittedly the least relevant for identifying but still useful to know if you retreat)

[fervent rose]

yea paik wallhacks

another clear cut combat gadget

[arctic grove]

You’d be surprised at how many people will actually hard ADS something you’re hiding behind not expecting you to grapple

Or at least the console players typically do, thanks to 2042s bad controls

muhahaha

[copper ice]

like if you mean you're both standing in the open 30m away from each other then yeah, but thats not even remotely close to the average combat situation

[glacial quarry]

bro people that hard ads a ledge waiting for a mackay grapple makes me shake my head so hard

[fervent rose]

and falck has the best combat sustain gadget in the game

[ebon pilot]

Basically all gadgets are setup before combat. Rao's kit especially. I've died far too often because I wanted to hack someone and oh look a person caught me with my gadget out and now I'm dead.

[copper ice]

thats the worst part of rao for sure, but it doesnt mean its not relevant to be able to recognise that the person you're fighting has that

all the better to catch them on their phone if you know they have one

[eager spire]

I hate Rao's concept and design

Like why would you design a individual specialist that can disable vehicles and fuck up your screen as infantry by staring at you?

[ebon pilot]

Most encounters are over in less than a second so readability doesn't exactly matter in most cases. By the time you realize it's a Rao because they spotted you with their passive while you shot them they're probably already dead.

[copper ice]

because you made a 128p battlefield and need a way to deal with the 15 vehicles per side this gives

[fervent rose]

thats not true i often see someone and get off their screen

i reengage based on the information seen

[copper ice]

^

[eager spire]

Personally i just wouldn't make a 128 player Battlefield game.

[ebon pilot]

How long does it take to reengage?

[copper ice]

if i get the drop on 3 dudes im going to play different if i recognise any of them are medics and can revive

[fervent rose]

depends? it can be instant or take as long as i need it to take

[copper ice]

if i know im against a falck ill push much harder in the hopes i catch her doing heroin instead of peeking me

[arctic grove]

Even in 64p he’s a bad idea imo

[copper ice]

you're fired

[fervent rose]

definitely not promoted

[eager spire]

I wouldn't work for DICE anyway

[ebon pilot]

oh there's an audio cue for that it's really funny catching people off guard because I can literally hear them pop a syringe

[eager spire]

Seems like a dumb company to work for.

[arctic grove]

My problem with specialists was never about readability anyways

[little umbra]

Next bf game - 256 players

[fervent rose]

if specialist power was toned down it wouldnt be as bad

[copper ice]

falck is fast as fuck its a nightmare trying to catch one at any reasonable distance

[next onyx]

Honestly. I'd love to work with Vanta and Alex.

[copper ice]

its nutty how fast she can swap fire swap

[hybrid totem]

I can't wait until they release the next one! We'll all finally see 2042 for the things we like instead of its faults

[eager spire]

I feel like i'd have arguments with Alex.

[arctic grove]

The problem over at DICE is for the most part the BS EA pulls over. Then the occasional horrible balancing decisions but eh

[next onyx]

Eh even so I'd just talk about guns with Alex.

[copper ice]

they have to be strong so they're all distinct so you have a favourite and buy your favourite's skins :^)

[eager spire]

Especially since i know what he's worked on before this

[arctic grove]

I suppose it depends on the specific studio and what’s being worked on, so I can’t say much

[little umbra]

Maybe they should actually learn from their mistakes for once

[hybrid totem]

then it wouldn't be a bf title...

[arctic grove]

Although if I had the smart people game design know how I’d probably love to work on a BF game

[fervent rose]

@hybrid totem yep, when they make another worse game, we'll think the previous game had better aspects

[copper ice]

if the next bf makes me treat 2042 the same way im currently treating bfv im going to scrape my cornea so i can censor dice from my vision irl

[little umbra]

There have never been good start to any BF game and if anyone knows one, name it

I'm waiting

Great first launch week

Never happened

[fervent rose]

its like they're racing toward the bottom or something

[copper ice]

if it gets any worse than 2042 its dead

[fervent rose]

and we just look back and want bf3 again

[hybrid totem]

do you mean the actual launch or the "let's drop this on the people who pre-ordered" beta launch

[eager spire]

I don't even want BF3 again.

[arctic grove]

I don’t hate BF launches since that’s pretty much standard practice for DICE. My issue is what’s underneath all that, for instance BF4 had purely technical issues but beyond that it was a good game

[little umbra]

Actual

[fervent rose]

you do want bf3 done right

[next onyx]

We want the older games but we then remember the annoying stuff in it.

[eager spire]

Yeah well i'll never get BF3 done right.

[arctic grove]

So while I obviously don’t want buggy launches, just don’t combine that with just a bad game

[hybrid totem]

sheeeeeit they could do a lot worse than just doing remakes like everyone else

[copper ice]

sorry portal was the remake

[little umbra]

That's true BF4 was superior to BF3 so that's probably only time Dice improved from previous title

[copper ice]

They fucked that up too

[fervent rose]

oh i dont want remakes

[copper ice]

😺

[next onyx]

Portal feels like it's a completely different game.

As in.

[fervent rose]

i mean like, make a game like bf3 again

[next onyx]

In the literal sense.

[fervent rose]

as good as bf3, but brand new

[hybrid totem]

it is a different game

[copper ice]

the only portal i played was an event one time and it felt way better than normal 2042

which was not a good feeling

[arctic grove]

Sometimes BF4 and 1 are annoying but general gameplay is good, besides the occasional muromets and artillery truck players

[eager spire]

I'd take another game like BF Hardline. Infantry focused.

[arctic grove]

Or maybe BF4s pilots…

[eager spire]

BF1's gameplay sucked

[hybrid totem]

still looks like a bee

[copper ice]

battlefield titanfall edition when

[next onyx]

I'd love to play black ops 2 in its prime again.

[fervent rose]

give me a time machine im going back to 2004

[upbeat sand]

WHY IS BLACK OPS 2 STILL 80 DOLLARs

[fervent rose]

ut2004 was peak

[next onyx]

Now.

[copper ice]

im putting ALL my money into titanfall stocks

[little umbra]

Facts

[arctic grove]

Cod titles dont drip price no mather what

They even dont have players

[next onyx]

I wish I got to experience early 2000's multi but at the same time I was very young.

[fervent rose]

i was also too young to truly appreciate it

[eager spire]

Honestly we should just stop playing Battlefield and CoD, and just play arena shooters.

[upbeat sand]

Jeez even BFV went down after a few months of 2042's release

[fervent rose]

kinda sad

[next onyx]

Yeah I feel that.

[little umbra]

Half Life dm, Unreal, Quake, CS 1.6, BF 1942 yeaah

[upbeat sand]

Bfv used to be 89.95 on steam now its 59.95 with its other past games

[arctic grove]

Battlefield are more fun, i only play cold war zombies to chill sometimes

[eager spire]

Like, Quake, Open Fortress, UT3X(when it comes out)

[arctic grove]

I like when bf price drop down

[next onyx]

Early games I played was Doom, Commander keen, games on my PSP, Wolfenstein, etc.

[copper ice]

yeah, halo infinite is going great :^)

[little umbra]

If ever

[fervent rose]

hl2 mp mods were banging

[arctic grove]

Different strokes for different folks, most of BF1s issues are easy to ignore at worst. Only exceptions being the problem with Frostbite that allowed gas and smoke grenades to go through walls and lighting while being indoors looking outside that you mentioned.

Beyond that, it really depends on the person, as I said before I find it incredibly easy to ignore something like no tracers in first person, the conquest point system, or whatever else

[fervent rose]

i miss that era

[upbeat sand]

2042's MSRP will eventually drop when the next game has been out for a little

[eager spire]

Halo is not an arena shooter

[fervent rose]

yes it is

[upbeat sand]

Mean while activision is just

Nah keep it

[fervent rose]

its a console arena shooter

[eager spire]

Yeah i guess some people just really like playing bad games.

[arctic grove]

Activision probably have other investers

Although you’re always allowed to interpret things about a game how you want, but I don’t think most people care that much about a lot of those things

[upbeat sand]

I am the entropy zero

Mitchell: what the fuck

[fervent rose]

sourceforts was maybe my favorite

[copper ice]

the issue is most people dont care about anything as long as it runs

[little umbra]

Oh not that one that's a disgrace

[next onyx]

In the end I'm not to judge someone for enjoying the game.

Really.

[eager spire]

Jabroni Brawl 3 is on Steam.

[copper ice]

if 2042 released in its current condition i would call it a failure and this is a year after

[arctic grove]

Well I’m moreso specifically referring to the entire list lycan has about why BF1 is bad, meanwhile most of them are things I and plenty of others literally could not be bothered by in actual gameplay

[eager spire]

I played it once and it was neat

[upbeat sand]

Mr Mitchell

Your incident at black meSSA

[fervent rose]

that looks dope

[little umbra]

You fucked up my face

[fervent rose]

i might have to install this some time

[upbeat sand]

The aliens are coming

[eager spire]

Also, play Open Fortress. pls. more people need to play that.

[limpid pond]

What are you doing to those aliens

[next onyx]

I'd love to properly experience Serious Sam PVP.

[copper ice]

thats fair, but it goes the other end and you get people playing who care about nothing but skins

[next onyx]

Literally run people over with a cannon.

[copper ice]

There were a lot of those during bfv

[upbeat sand]

Oh colonel we are so fucked

[copper ice]

i remember getting in fights with them

[limpid pond]

Oh speaking firsthand 100%

No WY

Why

[copper ice]

portal is heading the same way as the co-op mode in bfv

of course they care about it

[eager spire]

Basically

[arctic grove]

I’m pretty beeg on skins myself but I assume you maybe mean like the people that didn’t like Vs female character models? Or the customization theme?

[copper ice]

look at the intern! He's working so hard

[limpid pond]

Yo way are you in Chay

Chat

[eager spire]

They're never gonna say that cause investors would be unhappy

[edgy oriole]

chay

[eager spire]

But

That's basically what's going on

[limpid pond]

Bro my auto correct is actually wild

[copper ice]

both people hating it above all else and people passing over all balance issues because "omg cool garand skin pew pew"

[arctic grove]

Ohhh I see

[fervent rose]

yea bfv had lovely discourse

their whole "dont buy the game" thing made so many trolls so happy to be shitters

[copper ice]

Bald Woman Prosthetic Aughgifjh

[fervent rose]

trailer was terrible though

like laughably bad

[eager spire]

I thought it was funny

[copper ice]

saying just dont buy it was the dumbest fucking thing they could have done from any perspective

[limpid pond]

They should add a ban filter to the new gamemode banning the rm68

[fervent rose]

trevor noah reveal event

[little umbra]

Oh yeah BFV launch that was really majestic

[copper ice]

not even just from an advertising perspective but it meant we had at least 5 people in here daily saying the dumbest fucking shit

so tiring

[eager spire]

I mean it was the most based thing a developer has said. Just a shame they said it for BFV and not a better game.

[edgy oriole]

rm68 is balance until they add a shotgun gl

[fervent rose]

rm68 should be a full auto SPH

[copper ice]

I would have respected it if they actually backed it up

[limpid pond]

That shotgun is the saiga 12k

[copper ice]

the pacific trailer didnt have a single woman in it

[limpid pond]

It's already in the game

[copper ice]

they absolutely ate their own shit trying to cover their tracks

[arctic grove]

Generally speaking I disagree with DICE on how they handled BFV PR wise, don’t have anything against women but DICEs representation of them in game was largely politically motivated IMO

[limpid pond]

1 shot at point blank and 4 from medium range while being full auto is wild

[edgy oriole]

imagine a 12m right on the handguard of rm68

[little umbra]

Yeah Pacific was it's peak though

[edgy oriole]

id love that

[copper ice]

pacific bfv was its absolute worst

[edgy oriole]

bfv pacific is peak battlefield

[limpid pond]

I'd actually stop playing

[copper ice]

The balance was atrocious

[little umbra]

What was it's peak then?

[little umbra]

Fucking metro addition?

[next onyx]

Release pacific Zero A6m2 and Corsair 1A.

Christ.

[copper ice]

shortly prior to pacific

[little umbra]

Yeah no

[fervent rose]

the first month of pacific was fun (outside of pacific maps)

[next onyx]

Explosive MG's and that shit.

[limpid pond]

100% that's why you'd use it

[arctic grove]

Despite not being “gameplay focused” like some would say, I’ll always say BF1. If anything, deciding to play the “looks over immersion” card makes it easy to argue that prevented BF1 from having a shit storm of gameplay related issues

[fervent rose]

nov 2019 patch was the best time in bfv ever. and it was ruined 1 month later

[edgy oriole]

if you dont adapt you die

[next onyx]

Yep, Yo.

They fucked it.

[fervent rose]

i LOVED that patch

[next onyx]

If anyone knows me from the time I was genuinely upset they ruined my FG42.

[fervent rose]

then they fucked the game

[limpid pond]

It's a video game. You can't apply survival tips to it

[little umbra]

Nono you didn't get me man, i was asking for BFV peak

[next onyx]

They had genuine good will.

And that's what annoys me more.

[eager spire]

BF4 was the peak of BF.

[arctic grove]

Oh sorry, I thought you meant with BF in general

[limpid pond]

You have infinite lives for 7 minutes

[eager spire]

Hardline is also a contender.

[fervent rose]

oh hell nah

[eager spire]

Past Hardline, it was a downfall.

[copper ice]

fliegerfaust was added in 3rd of october

that was peak of bfv

[edgy oriole]

my fav part about bfv was them adding the 2a

[eager spire]

BF1 was bad, BFV was worse, and 2042 is stupid.

[copper ice]

pacific was added in 31st of october, when it started spiralling

[fervent rose]

fliegerfaust patch was an incredible time too

[arctic grove]

“And 2042 is stupid” made me laugh, not saying I disagree, that was just a funny way to describe it

[copper ice]

we had the beautiful flieger for a whole month

[fervent rose]

but the pacific patch fixed audio

[little umbra]

But i would prefer BF1 over BFV any day indeed

[copper ice]

it was a special time

[eager spire]

Am i wrong

[fervent rose]

they fixed audio for 1 month

and took it away along with the gun balance

[copper ice]

we got the trench carbine too

[arctic grove]

It’s certainly a game ya know

[copper ice]

flieger and trench carbine

[little umbra]

Oh yes absolutely broken gun

[limpid pond]

The peak of bf was probably bf3 the bf before games started to become competitive. The only reason why games aren't really the same as they were back then is because it takes more to make a game now and everyone sucked back then. Gaming is now a career that can be made and no longer just a leisure activity

[eager spire]

It is one of the video games of all time, yes

[little umbra]

That could one shot bombers mhm yeah

[copper ice]

yes!

Wasnt it beautiful

[little umbra]

No

[copper ice]

We got to bomb the jubba

[fervent rose]

they made all of the guns weak on purpose because everyone is always competitive as fuck

[copper ice]

Return to sender

[eager spire]

BF3, eh. It's just aged poorly, with it's suppression mechanics snd 15hz servers.

[arctic grove]

Same, simple gameplay made for a nice gameplay experience in general that also wouldn’t have a ton of gameplay related balancing and design issues like the games that followed.

That’s what I can say about it IF I play the looks over gameplay card

Although in general I disagree with that point unless it’s about the slide nerfs

[little umbra]

Well atleast i never was a pilot, i was tanker mostly

[eager spire]

The slide nerfs in BF1 were the worst decisions DICE made with BF1.

[copper ice]

flieger was absolutely overtuned but after years of getting fucked by planes i have absolutely no issues with it and wish they never nerfed it

[fervent rose]

flieger wasnt even op

any good pilot outranges you with rockets

to this day

[eager spire]

It would've been fine if they didn't even touch sliding.

[arctic grove]

Looking back all I care about when it comes to BF3/4 is the fact that they’re pretty much exactly the themes I want from a BF game. Gameplay wise they’re dated by todays standards but I like em

[copper ice]

jubba just had to fly higher yeah

[little umbra]

It was and still is

[copper ice]

but for the month before they realised that...

[fervent rose]

0 dispersion rockets from skybox

haha

[copper ice]

planes and tanks in bfv were way worse than anything infantry ever had access to

[fervent rose]

when planes are as overtuned as bfv planes, you need an infantry gadget like fliegerfaust

they could just make the planes less op

crazy idea

[limpid pond]

That's not my point though. My point is overall. People remember the game differently because times back then were easier. The average player is looked at as a bot now. The skill gap was so low back then

[copper ice]

the only planes they managed that with was that dogshit variant of the allied jubba

[little umbra]

There was that mini V2 bomb on one plane wasn't it? Like 2000lbs or something?

[copper ice]

i couldnt level it to level 4 because i picked the wrong upgrade path and removed my bombs before reaching max level so i had a single fucking lmg and nothing else

[fervent rose]

i really dont agree that bf3 on pc at launch was filled with a bunch of dumb bozo bots who couldnt aim

[eager spire]

Competitive gaming existed before BF3, though, and there were absolutely cracked players.

[little umbra]

Like it could clear entire point with one good shot

[copper ice]

i do not miss the vehicle experience systen

that was the worst

[eager spire]

Quake, Halo 2, Gears of War even.

[fervent rose]

i experienced bf3, players werent garbage

[little umbra]

Same

[copper ice]

this got nerfed relatively quickly but when it was added it was fucking insane yeah

there was no counter

you just died

[little umbra]

Yeah

Yeah haha that was quite the time to play conquest

[limpid pond]

That's fine you don't have to agree. I'm not gonna say your opinion is wrong. I'm just saying there's a reason why so many games come out now with a lot of hype then turn out to be shit. Alot of people want a game like back in the day. Issue is we're pass that. New day new age

[fervent rose]

early 2000s had tons of cracked pc fps players

[copper ice]

the mkvi mosquito

[fervent rose]

you're just misunderstanding the landscape of pc gamers

2011 had plenty of good players even back then

[copper ice]

not only did the mozzy get the 4000lb bomb, but it also got either 4 x 20mms or a fucking 6 pounder cannon

[limpid pond]

Yeah that's fine. I'm mainly talking about battlefield though

[copper ice]

talk about balance am i right ladies

[fervent rose]

yea the avg player was never a god, nor will they ever be

[little umbra]

Oh it was 4000lb damn

[fervent rose]

but the comparison from bc2 on xbox to bf3 on pc was STARK

[eager spire]

BF2 had competitive players.

[fervent rose]

like night and day

[copper ice]

yes indeedy, a full 4000lb

[eager spire]

For some reason.

[copper ice]

I have no idea what they were thinking

[eager spire]

I don't know why.

[copper ice]

it was absolute hell

[little umbra]

As i said it was mini V2

But area of effect was almost same

[arctic grove]

Typically I think that the historical BFs play a bit nicer cause it’s easier to know how to balance stuff to react in game but….

I could only imagine 2042 jets had a sliver of that weaponry

[copper ice]

the only good thing they did in 2042 was not give the aircraft the same absolute farm potential as bfv

[arctic grove]

One thing I like about V is how fleshed out vehicles are in general, they had so much cool shit in V that they just dropped for 2042

[fervent rose]

chunky did you play bfv when fortress was first added to the game

[copper ice]

as much cool shit as there was, it was fucking horrendously balanced

[arctic grove]

Oh yeah I bet it was, my only knowledge of that would be what I hear from y’all cause I never played when it was the current BF

I’m blessed to have avoided the cursed balancing patches

[copper ice]

yeah i was there like 2 weeks after release when it went on 50% sale

[fervent rose]

so you experienced hamada fortress with the bomber

[copper ice]

unfortunately.

[fervent rose]

that was something else

[copper ice]

i have never seen so many fucking kills in my life

[fervent rose]

the dumbest shit i ever seent until Hazard Zone

[copper ice]

i dont know what they were thinking idk why they had a bomber

it just wiped out the entire attacking force

perfectly lined up for 20 x 50kgs

[arctic grove]

All I can infer is Ram and 60mm flak on hourglass breakthrough. I recorded my whole game of that and when I tell you that was the most fun I’ve probably had in 2042 ever I mean it

[eager spire]

Tbh i don't play games on launch. The closest i ever got to that was playing BF1 before the DLC came out. But back then i sucked ass and didn't care.

[fervent rose]

wasnt it the attackers who had the bomber

[arctic grove]

Then after that I pulled off some sick ass headshots lmao

[copper ice]

iirc there was bombing fuckery on both sides temporarily

my memory is foggy but i vaguely remember them removing some vehicles from the mode

[turbid compass]

do you guys think we'll ever get some naval aspect to the game like in literally every other bf game?

[next onyx]

Oh god launch Ju88.

[eager spire]

No.

[next onyx]

I know that they changed it so they planes cannot spawn at the very start.

[eager spire]

Boats suck anyway, who gives a shit.

[arctic grove]

I don’t think V has much naval combat either unless naval combat is literally just boats period

[next onyx]

People who like naval combat.

[turbid compass]

big = good . and i like naval combat

[arctic grove]

1 and 4 are the only BFs with actual naval combat kek

[fervent rose]

naval combat is bad because infantry cant do things in water

bf4 attack boats were not fun

[next onyx]

I remember there was mentions of torpedos on the KA-MI and maybe a zero variant that can land on water?\

[eager spire]

Funny that the worst DLC's for both games involved naval combat.

[copper ice]

naval combat isnt good unless you make the game around naval combat

[eager spire]

Funny how that works.

[copper ice]

bf isnt made around naval combat

[next onyx]

Carrier assault would love to experience again.

[arctic grove]

I really don’t mind naval combat, im all for DICE to care enough about a BF to code and model stuff for something like that in lol

[copper ice]

so is bad

[next onyx]

Honestly I just want an x assault kind of game mode again.

[little umbra]

Bf1 Heligoland Bight

[copper ice]

coding and modelling doesnt mean they care or that itll be good

[arctic grove]

I love that map

[little umbra]

Now that you can't say was bad

[next onyx]

Bf1 Torpedo boats uggggghhhh

[copper ice]

i promise

[next onyx]

So much for sitting in the mini destroyers.

They were so much fun.

[eager spire]

Naval Strike was the worst DLC that came out for BF4.

[copper ice]

heh heh battleship dreadnaught heh heh torpedo boats

[next onyx]

Played them like mechwarrior.

[eager spire]

I will not be taking criticism

[next onyx]

Stay at a distance, be mindful about your turns.

[fervent rose]

water has to be carefully considered in a bf map

[arctic grove]

I just want WR so I can actually play a naval strike map

[fervent rose]

they did not carefully consider naval strike

[arctic grove]

[eager spire]

They should've ported the BF3 Close Quarters DLC maps.

Those would've done better on BF4.

[copper ice]

remember when the stuka b-2 had 2 x 37mm cannons that fucked all tanks in a single strafe?

good times

[plain hamlet]

the boats were pretty fun in bfV

[arctic grove]

It was good

[eager spire]

i don't agree

[arctic grove]

Not really

[plain hamlet]

not the big ones

the lil ones

[copper ice]

the bfv boats were absolute plane magnets

[little umbra]

Zeebrugge was also pretty cool since it was mix of naval and infantry combat

[plain hamlet]

canoes

[copper ice]

you went in a boat and the designated pilot fucked you

[arctic grove]

Bf4 boats were op

[copper ice]

because rockets + 4 x explosive 20mm

[arctic grove]

Tv missile

[fervent rose]

the beach landings were pretty meh

[arctic grove]

OH YEAH

I love zeebrugge

[little umbra]

And it was at night, so automatic w for me

[eager spire]

I hate Zeebrugge.

[copper ice]

the fanbase went insane for them

[little umbra]

I love night bf maps

[copper ice]

never had less hope for the game than at that time

[fervent rose]

i genuinely appreciate iwo, but the rest are too much

[arctic grove]

Dude same, that or raining maps

[eager spire]

BF1 had better night maps than Zeebrugge.

[fervent rose]

i wish it was only an iwo thing

[arctic grove]

Dark maps in general are so good in BF because it’s right up the war like lane

There is only one thing about wehicles, if you dont select fast you wont drive it untill next match

[copper ice]

sorry we added boats they have to be in every map :^)

[copper ice]

this is the single worst thing about battlefield

[arctic grove]

Yea

[copper ice]

its chronically afraid to have vehicles actually die

[arctic grove]

Not battlefield

[little umbra]

Nivelle and Prise de Tahure

[arctic grove]

Everyone is so greddy everyone want wehicle all the time

[eager spire]

yeah both of those maps were better.

[little umbra]

And of course, the infamous Verdun

[eager spire]

Verdun was ok

[arctic grove]

I gotta admit I’m also pretty scared to die in vehicles. Which is weird because they’re not kill streaks… you DO have the opportunity to play them again lol

[little umbra]

Which wasn't technically night but it was so dark and crispy

[karmic matrix]

if you want to talk night maps and fights... dice has some things to learn from insurgency

[fervent rose]

bf1 has a bunch of great maps

[arctic grove]

I honestly can’t say I dislike more than maybe a few of them

[copper ice]

i often find the vast majority of players dont want the vehicles, its more like 3 dudes who really want them and know how to not die in them

[eager spire]

Honestly most of BF1's maps were okay, but the gameplay sucks so much ass that i don't care.

[fervent rose]

like theres some fuck ups. galicia

[plain hamlet]

honestly i find dying without getting at least like 10 kills with a tank such a waste

[little umbra]

Oh shit Galicia

[arctic grove]

Galicia, empires edge, achi baba are maybe the ones I’d rather not play

[fervent rose]

but most bf1 maps are fun

[little umbra]

That's gotta be worst map imo

[arctic grove]

But that’s probably it

[warm stirrup]

How to turn on all chat?

[arctic grove]

Even if they die they wait in lobby and spam deploy on wehicle they are pretty anoying

[plain hamlet]

cause there will always be that one suicide dude with the C5 charging u the moment ur slightly too close

[fervent rose]

i also hated giants shadow

[little umbra]

Empire edge is fine, Achi Baba is too flat
And Galicia is just
Eh
Bombers and snipers, welcome to hell

[arctic grove]

So noone play wehicle except those 3 players

[eager spire]

If someone ran a dedicated BF1 Domination server on PC in NA, i would consider playing it a bit more.

But there isn't one.

So.

[fervent rose]

if bfv had grind i'd reinstall tonight

fuckers.

[arctic grove]

Funny enough Galicia actually works because bf1 gunplay

[copper ice]

i miss bfv game modes so much

[main bluff]

Hello I just started play a couple of days ago haven’t played battlefield online since battlefield 3 does anyone have any tips

[little umbra]

Grind was so goddamn hectic

[copper ice]

i cant believe 2042 has such awful fucking modes after bfv

[little umbra]

But best to practice

[eager spire]

But it's Galicia.

[fervent rose]

grind was the most fun ive had on battlefield since bf3

[plain hamlet]

and maps

[arctic grove]

Putting the train on Galicia operations imo was a crime

[fervent rose]

frontlines 64 devastation is also up there

[copper ice]

put twisted steel grind directly into 2042 and you will triple player count

[plain hamlet]

every map feels like it’s made for vehicles with the amount of open space

[eager spire]

I didn't play Operations in BF1.

[little umbra]

Yeah honestly I don't really like ANY BF2042 map, like that's my favourite

[copper ice]

i miss frontlines so badly

so so badly

[next onyx]

Frontlines was goated.

I vividly remember this one round on Arras bringing my team back.

[copper ice]

i was furious when they stopped making frontlines a main mode in bfv

[next onyx]

We were at our ends with the bombs, They got one.

[arctic grove]

They are not awfull i personaly like 2042 modes

[arctic grove]

I like orbital, manifest, renewal (design), exposure, that’s bout it

[next onyx]

We absolutely pushed them back.

And won.

[copper ice]

2042 basically has conquest/bt/rush

[next onyx]

You ever played Frontlines Al Sundan?

Chunky.

[little umbra]

Nah they all mid for me

[fervent rose]

frontlines is just the best "battle" simulator they have ever made

[next onyx]

How it was just in the airfield.

And with one bomb at either side.

[arctic grove]

I feel like flashpoint and spearhead are really uninspired after exposure and stranded. Stranded is….. bearable.

[little umbra]

Maybe just Manifest is somehow decent

[copper ice]

yes!

[arctic grove]

You forgot modes where you fight for hard drives and era modes

[warm stirrup]

If the new mode was 64 players or 128 players would it have been better?

[next onyx]

Was an absolute farmfest. I loved it so much.

[fervent rose]

al sundan frontlines was dank

[copper ice]

i loved how it chopped up the maps to make it feel fresh even though it was the same map

[fervent rose]

genuinely fun as fuck

[plain hamlet]

spearhead is one of the only maps i like

[eager spire]

Frontlines was annoying to me because the one time i tried playing it, i dropped 69 kills as a medic and lost.

[copper ice]

comparatively, half the 2042 maps feel exactly the same

[next onyx]

Spearhead, (current) orbital and breakaway are pretty good.

[copper ice]

in every mode

[little umbra]

Yeah exactly

[next onyx]

But that's where I just stand.

[fervent rose]

i hate how every map has the same vehicle setups in BT

[next onyx]

I play the others but I enjoy what I listed more than the others.

[warm stirrup]

How to turn on all chat?

[fervent rose]

theres maybe like 1 small difference

[arctic grove]

Cant do

[plain hamlet]

i hate exposed so much

[little umbra]

Well since we talk about maps from other BFs, best from BF4?

[copper ice]

wait until its actually added

[next onyx]

Actually.

[eager spire]

...Locker.

[little umbra]

Haha locker

Metro

[eager spire]

BF4 does not have many good maps.

[plain hamlet]

Rotterdam was 10/10 in BfV

[next onyx]

The layouts on the event on the maps are pretty good.

[copper ice]

sometimes you get two mavs instead of one

[fervent rose]

bf4 is not a game to remake maps from

[next onyx]

With the additional cover.

[little umbra]

I liked that quite aswell

[eager spire]

All of the BF3 remake maps in BF4 are ass.

[ripe hedge]

[next onyx]

Honestly the only Bf4 I reckon is worth it is dawnbreaker.

[fervent rose]

@copper ice defender vehicles change more than anything

[next onyx]

ALEX!

[copper ice]

i miss rotterdam so bad

[edgy oriole]

https://tenor.com/view/poki-pokimane-punch-smash-gif-23414137

[arctic grove]

Noshahr canals is good

[fervent rose]

alex nerf your gun that you are in love with please and thank you

[next onyx]

Rotterdam and Devastation was good.

[little umbra]

Ahh yeah Dawnbreaker

[fervent rose]

dying to it is not fun

[copper ice]

yeah they go between a wildcat and nothing

[eager spire]

And most of the other DLC maps weren't great.

[plain hamlet]

rotterdam was the perfect infantry map

[eager spire]

Also hello Alex.

[next onyx]

It was a good mix of a map.

[eager spire]

No.

[warm stirrup]

Metro/locker in portal with 128 players...would anyone play that?

[fervent rose]

and the rams inside buildings, dont forget

[eager spire]

No.

[copper ice]

rotterdam was the best map in the battlefield universe because it had HOUSES

[next onyx]

Tanks could have a presence but at the same time you could avoid them.

[little umbra]

That would be absolute chaos

[copper ice]

how many houses are in 2042? ZERO

[little umbra]

Like that one in BF3 and 4 wasn't enough

[copper ice]

all we have is fucking containers

[little umbra]

While you couldn't capture A B or C

[plush bear]

it is, give me operation locker

[ripe hedge]

Let's see why was I pinged

Broken skin it seems

[plain hamlet]

true, i’d want an actual town or city in 2042

[arctic grove]

They should put all maps and weapons from all battlefield in 2042

[next onyx]

Broken skin?

[copper ice]

please, now i have to repress this again

[next onyx]

The Brawler?

[ripe hedge]

Or just a skin clarification thing

[little umbra]

BF3 didn't even have those shortcuts so it was even more chaotic

[plain hamlet]

i wish the apartment buildings actually had apartments

[edgy oriole]

broke silencer on skin or something i forgor

[plain hamlet]

so it’s not just the first floor and roof

[fervent rose]

i would only accept a locker that's been made better

a 1 to 1 remake? no thanks

[plush bear]

Propaganda from BF4 would be great

aldo

[next onyx]

I know that certain portal guns don't have suppressor models.

[plush bear]

thats fine for me

[arctic grove]

Dragon valley

[plush bear]

oh yes

[little umbra]

Aaah Dragon Valley

I almost forgot about that one

All the way back to BF2

[copper ice]

i cant believe the jubba really did have 16 bombs and then 4 fat bombs on top

[arctic grove]

Daquing oilfields from bf2

[plush bear]

Port Valdez

plox

plooox

[copper ice]

im so glad the jets in 2042 are shit

[arctic grove]

Operation clean sweep

[eager spire]

I don't like meatgrinder maps. I think DICE needs to let go of the idea that infantry focused maps need to be like this.

[obtuse inlet]

Very rare to see a good jet player

[fervent rose]

its fine to have like 1 of them but yeah most maps shouldnt be forced chokes like locker or old metro

[arctic grove]

Strike at karkand was also good

[fervent rose]

karkand is goated

[little umbra]

Strike at Karkand, Gulf of Oman

[edgy oriole]

release jets were a menace

[little umbra]

I just wrote it haha

[fervent rose]

bf2 karkand especially

i'd love to see that remade into a modern breakthrough map

[arctic grove]

Zatar wetlands is underrated also

[arctic grove]

Honestly I hate where jets are now but they absolutely used to be unbalanced vs ground vehicles. 2 strafes and you killed everything

[little umbra]

Ah yes that's was my favourite actually back in the day

[arctic grove]

Some jet pilots were smart and did top down strafes on wildcats

Sharqi peninsula

[copper ice]

aircraft either being drastically OP or fucking useless?

[arctic grove]

0 counter play

[copper ice]

sounds like a dice classic

[edgy oriole]

im talking about the cartwheel belly flop road kill part of the jets

[arctic grove]

[little umbra]

While i want remake of Damavand Peak from BF3 though

[plush bear]

any chance to make survey in future about most wanted maps from previous games of the series to put in 2042?

[little umbra]

That was absolute gem

[copper ice]

holy fuck i just remembered how the alt ammo for tanks in bfv was bugged to be useless for MONTHS

[next onyx]

ironically though.

[arctic grove]

Remember when igla and stinger lock oil tower and you die from heli becouse of that 🤣

[copper ice]

did any of you play bfv prior to them fixing the apds for archer

[next onyx]

In the jets that I see strafing now, They get close enough to do damage but also free for a rocket.

[little umbra]

Haha yeah

[next onyx]

I actually wouldn't mind it if that the flight model was better but that was relatively unchanged.

[fervent rose]

i rarely used the archer, i dont recall that bug though

[copper ice]

it wasnt a bug, the values were just wrong

[next onyx]

I know that AP rounds on the Archer did more damage but it wasn't worth it.

[fervent rose]

i just used the.. valentine?

[copper ice]

it did flat less damage than the main gun in every way

[fervent rose]

classic

[copper ice]

along with no blast damage

so it removed all aoe and then had lower impact than the normal ammo on top

For MONTHS

[fervent rose]

all howitzers were massively bugged for like ~16 months

[arctic grove]

Bf2 was legendary these days

[copper ice]

almost all AP rounds in general were shit for ages too

[arctic grove]

No game will br better than that

[copper ice]

they had slightly higher impact damage with no blast which meant lower overall damage

[little umbra]

That's true

[copper ice]

and they lost more damage when bouncing because it was all impact

[silk mango]

I just want attack boats

[little umbra]

But as you previously said i had most fun in any BF game on BF3

[copper ice]

did you take the silly string valentine

[fervent rose]

i like how they just randomly simplified their really complicated tank v tank angling system randomly like 2 years in

[copper ice]

yeah LMAO

[fervent rose]

that change came out of nowhere

[copper ice]

turns out not explaining shit means people still have no fucking idea what they're doing 2 years in

[fervent rose]

and it was a total stealth overhaul haha

[copper ice]

the classic "if we dont tell them its like we never did anything wrong in the first place"

[static prairie]

How do u enable all chat

[copper ice]

latest rendition of this being aps and emp

[copper ice]

you wait until its added

[fervent rose]

it wasnt even hidden they gave a youtuber some big google doc with all the info

[static prairie]

It wasnt added in this update?

[fervent rose]

just no patch notes because ?????

[static prairie]

Tf lmao

I thought they finally added it

[copper ice]

average battlefield fan doesnt have brain to read patch notes silly, only youtubers know how to read

god forbid you want an iota of information about the game you're playing

people used to get into arguments about the vehicles in bfv constantly because no one had any idea what anything fucking did

[warm stirrup]

5 hours

[static prairie]

Oh so its day late

[fervent rose]

the danger snakes?

[copper ice]

yes yes yes

the fun button

[fervent rose]

drive toward tiger and 1 shot them button?

yes i did in fact use that

[copper ice]

i love tank jousting

[warm stirrup]

Everyone desperate for friendly chatter with enemy team it seems

[copper ice]

did you ever try the valentine AA before they nerfed case rounds

if they weren't pussies they'd give that to the wildcat

[fervent rose]

i didnt abuse AA i'm a civilized man

[warm stirrup]

People use aa on purpose?

[copper ice]

bfv AA had a 40mm automatic shotgun

[static prairie]

People use aa to afk at spawn

[copper ice]

1hk out to 50 metres

about two shots a second

[static prairie]

Cant even find conquest game atm, idk whats going on

[copper ice]

you got crossplay turned on?

[static prairie]

Yeah

[copper ice]

Sometimes the updates turn it off automatically

[static prairie]

Gotta check that then

[copper ice]

for some ungodly reason

[warm stirrup]

Everyone's playing the new mode

[static prairie]

Its on

[copper ice]

[static prairie]

@warm stirrup couldnt find games in that either lol

[next onyx]

They did nerf the canister shot if i remember correctly.

[copper ice]

They definitely did eventually

[next onyx]

Though I used flares on the valentine.

[ebon pilot]

its ovar

[copper ice]

They took their damn time though

[next onyx]

Rush narvik it was nasty.

[copper ice]

it was pretty poo after they nerfed it so everyone went flares

[next onyx]

It wasn't necessarily bad.

[static prairie]

Ill give up and go hunt moose in this hunting game i downloaded recently

[copper ice]

didnt need 2hk shotgun when the automatic 40mm was also 2hk

why is the wildcat 40mm not automatic

wtf why are the vehicles 100 years later shitter

[warm stirrup]

If shutdown was 32v32 or 64v64 would it have been better?

[copper ice]

wildcat should be ashamed

[eager spire]

no

[static prairie]

16v16 max

[eager spire]

from what i can tell it seems to be fine as 8v8

[fervent rose]

i really think it would play better as 12v12

given the 2 lances

you're spread so thin

[next onyx]

I thought it was automatic. The 40mm.

Guessed I've used it like one.

[eager spire]

@fervent rose i don't think it's a problem, you just have to play better.

[copper ice]

i only used it a couple of times admittedly, but i remember the valentine 40mm chugging

[warm stirrup]

Would shutdown play better with vehicles?

[fervent rose]

i mean its boring

[copper ice]

wildcat 40mm felt like a bolt action

[eager spire]

No

[copper ice]

Vehicles in 8v8?

[next onyx]

Combat is a bit too spread out.

[eager spire]

Small scale modes with vehicles are dumb

[fervent rose]

and i won a bunch of rounds today, i get the mode, i just dont care for it

[dusk falcon]

only vehicle allowed is the eod bot

the eod bot should be able to disable the lance

[next onyx]

Vroom.

[dusk falcon]

would be funny

[next onyx]

Yeah it should.

Not against that idea at all.

[fervent rose]

i'd like either 12v12 or 1 lance

[dusk falcon]

i mean it can disable the bomb in rush why shouldnt it disable the lance

[fervent rose]

then i am interested to try it again

[copper ice]

2 lances in 8v8 with the shoddy ass squad mechanics that currently exist?

sounds painful

[warm stirrup]

Think they'll release shutdown into portal? Like previous modes?

[fervent rose]

I don't see why not

[warm stirrup]

Custom shutdown servers would be dope

[fervent rose]

no blasco or tugs

[ebon pilot]

oh god

[copper ice]

blasco is such a horrible spec to fight

[fervent rose]

128, 800% shutdown

yep

[copper ice]

i cant wait until they nerf irish APS so blasco replaces him instead

[warm stirrup]

Best specialists?

[copper ice]

zain

[fervent rose]

falck

[ebon pilot]

Rao

[next onyx]

Zain, falck and Mackay.

[fervent rose]

zain and rao are cute but 1200 hp on demand is hard to argue with

[next onyx]

Free heroin.

[ebon pilot]

people be dissin on rao when i've been provin time and time again that yall just bad at using him

[copper ice]

zain has infinite health on demand

[next onyx]

I mean. We could use rao if we wanted to but the others are generally better.

Most of the time.

[fervent rose]

nah i just dont want to cheese with wallhack

[copper ice]

just randomly fire airburst until something dies

[next onyx]

Zain is high risk with his passive.

[fervent rose]

i did that enough during that 1 month paik was goofy

[next onyx]

But his gadget needs a nerf.

[ebon pilot]

but you'd rather be cheese with infinite personal health?

[fervent rose]

im over the specialist silly stuff

yea because im just shooting guns and healing

[next onyx]

This game is literal cheese.

[fervent rose]

no wallhack through smoke

[ebon pilot]

the world is made of cheese

[next onyx]

Use your brain for a split second and you've broken the game.

[copper ice]

if it was made of cheese we'd have destruction

[next onyx]

Hence zain, falck and or Mackay.

[copper ice]

it's made of corrugated iron

[fervent rose]

the falck multiheals are wild now

when you take cover, shoot an extra heal under you next time

[copper ice]

[worldly bramble]

yooo

[fervent rose]

you have time to do it

[worldly bramble]

let’s run some

[copper ice]

i can't believe they actually let you do this

[warm stirrup]

It's funny how you're still able to kill teammates with Angel's ammo crates

[next onyx]

Won't lie the instant I went back to zain with the scar I kinda got bored.

Versus abusing the rm with the standard barrel.

How ironic.

[fervent rose]

i'll shoot a pile of them at a headglitch i'm running toward

[copper ice]

does it eat them all at once if they're stacked

[fervent rose]

if theres no enemy, why not?

no!

6 heals, no animation

[copper ice]

you are fucking joking

LMAOOOOOOO

NO FUCKING WAY

[next onyx]

You won't consume syringes when you are at full health.

[fervent rose]

take more damage while on top of it?

instantly heal

[next onyx]

That's how that works.

[copper ice]

i know you dont eat them at max health but i thought if you shot them all in the same area you'd eat them all at once

[fervent rose]

it didnt work like that until a patch or two ago

[onyx mica]

wow

i learned something good

[fervent rose]

when flashpoint was added

you're welcome

[limpid pond]

Yiu can now sell alcohol to minors

[copper ice]

this is the worst thing ive heard about 2042 in a while

[next onyx]

I wouldn't mind them adjusting that but making the self heal animation a bit quicker to boot.

I just shoot needles on the ground and profit off the heals.

Dirty needles yes.

[limpid pond]

More heals less feels

[copper ice]

its pretty silly how the self heal is slower than shooting your feet

[worldly bramble]

inv

[fervent rose]

its close to the same now

[ebon pilot]

yeah it doesn't take 2 seconds like before

[next onyx]

I've never really found any disparity between it to be honest.

I know that med pens are probably a bit slower but so be it.

[fervent rose]

it was definitely like a half second faster before

to shoot

[next onyx]

Won't lie.

I would love it if we could sprint and defib.

[fervent rose]

dont worry, 99.9% of the playerbase will never learn this, and most that do learn it will probably get themselves killed trying to abuse it

[warm stirrup]

Do you guys think squad revive was a good idea? Since bfv? Or no?

[next onyx]

Make reviving a bit er.. smoother?

[copper ice]

squad revive is solid

[next onyx]

I think it's a good idea to promote squad play as long as it has the proper downsides.

And so far that's it.

[copper ice]

made bfv feel really good

[fervent rose]

there's a way to do that but you need a bit of a running start

[copper ice]

genuinely felt great in bfv to get a nice bunch of randoms in your squad who all go on a flank together

[slow tulip]

Give more incentives to be a medic

[next onyx]

Jump slide and defib yeah.

[fervent rose]

if you're too close you cant do the traversal jump slide bhop speed

[copper ice]

squad revive helps keep that cohesive

[warm stirrup]

Doesn't it make medics useless?

[ebon pilot]

infinite self heals isn't enough?

infinite ammo?

[copper ice]

nah, it's much slower than standard revive

[next onyx]

Oh yeah make you think "I hate reviving slower, maybe medic is the best bet"

[fervent rose]

also supposedly you move faster with paddles

[next onyx]

Interesting.

[copper ice]

medic can get clutch mid-fight revives

[next onyx]

I just want to sprint and charge to kill people to be honest.

[ebon pilot]

it definitely feels that way

[fervent rose]

focus said that and i trust the boy

[slow tulip]

Ohh yeah, ammo and heath stations at objectives would be nice like bf5

[copper ice]

squad members can only do that rarely

[fervent rose]

hes cracked

[onyx mica]

doctor i am bleeding here, and then she ran past us

[copper ice]

i miss the supply stations a lot

[next onyx]

Just let me play offensive defib medic and zap people while sprinting.

Troll people that way.

Fastest take down in the game.

[onyx mica]

can i ask something

[copper ice]

no silly execution business

[fervent rose]

you just have to be a rabbit to do it

[copper ice]

you get zapped

[fervent rose]

bhop zap bhop zap

[next onyx]

What's up prime.

[slow tulip]

Squad play needs to improved, in BF5 squad leaders had more responsibilities

[next onyx]

Actual points being rewarded would be nice.

[warm stirrup]

Imagine if they bring battlefield 1 content to portal? Horse superiority? 26v26 horses?

[next onyx]

For doing orders.

[copper ice]

I miss bfv squads soooo bad

[slow tulip]

Behemoths would be fun

[next onyx]

I just want whistle.

And to annoy people.

[copper ice]

ordering felt smooth, it was obvious on the map and ui indicators, you got points, your squad (sometimes) listened, you had the banging reinforcement system

[slow tulip]

Bf1's behemoths were very good

[copper ice]

i don't even know who's squad leader or what our order is in 2042 99% of the time

they absolutely shat the bed with it

[slow tulip]

You see the star icon

[fervent rose]

season 5 might have a reinforcement system with the new squad update

[warm stirrup]

Imagine the zeppelin or the train with 128 players?

[copper ice]

they added the star before they added any reason to actually be squad leader or actually listen to squad leader

[fervent rose]

the power weapon stuff that got datamined

[copper ice]

dont do this... don't give me hope

[slow tulip]

Over 90 percent of the time bf2042 squad leaders don't know what does it mean to be a squad leader. They don't place objectives

[fervent rose]

i mean it would just be more obnoxious cheap deaths so

[next onyx]

Won't lie I was thinking of bfh with how they handled power weapons.

[fervent rose]

i dont even want it

[next onyx]

How there'd be crates.

[copper ice]

wait yeah this is 2042

[next onyx]

Yeah in this game would rather not.

[fervent rose]

automatic grenade launcher

50 cal chest shotting you

[copper ice]

never mind the flame is extinguished before it even ignited

[fervent rose]

pain

[next onyx]

Maybe the data mined minigun was an asset for crawfords turret and the mk3a1 probably is the only true pick up.

[warm stirrup]

Hardline also had power weapons in vehicles

[next onyx]

Those are vehicles in generals.

I mean the crates.

[slow tulip]

In bf5 if squad leaders place objectives they can accumulate points to call for support like artillery, vehicles etc

[copper ice]

Unless they add the sturmTORger as a reinforcement vehicle

[warm stirrup]

Trunk rpgs

[next onyx]

I would rather not deal with artillery.

[fervent rose]

tor needs to become a starcraft siege tank

[slow tulip]

Squad leaders don't have incentives in bf2042

[next onyx]

They need to fix the annoying shit in this game before they add more rockets.

[copper ice]

bfv arty was nice because there weren't too many explosive options

[fervent rose]

the sturmtorger

[next onyx]

Haha yo.

[copper ice]

2042 is just explosive options

[next onyx]

Sturmtorger.

[slow tulip]

Bomber was fun in bf1

[copper ice]

sturmtorger would genuinely bring me straight back to the game

[fervent rose]

actually they could just have a 2nd tor that's twice as big

and it works like a sturmtiger

[warm stirrup]

Imagine hardline in portal but 128 players?

[fervent rose]

yea give me the reinforcement system

[copper ice]

looks like the stug but futuristic and Bigger

[fervent rose]

also let me call down akimbo g57

[copper ice]

5 second charge on the stubby barrel to make a big purple plasma ball

pchoo

slow travel time horribly loud and obvious

makes the 60mm mortar look like firecrackers

Perfect

[fervent rose]

the artists would have a field day making that effect

it would be sick

[warm stirrup]

Would y'all prefer the next battlefield to be set in the past or future?

[copper ice]

something they can use the artists on that's actually cool

[copper ice]

[obtuse inlet]

Yeah no this gamemode is terrible

[ebon pilot]

future tbh

[copper ice]

instakilled from the double burst it would be perfect

[slow tulip]

Give us a single player experience

[copper ice]

after bf1 and bfv i dont think they're gonna go retro any time soon

[fervent rose]

a sequel to 2142 would be great. Or something like bf1 where its not "accurate" to the time period

[slow tulip]

Ea is pushing players towards live services and microtransactions

[copper ice]

next games will very likely be either 2000s or 2200s

[slow tulip]

Campaign would be great

[obtuse inlet]

so basically, if you don’t have good teammates on shutdown then its over when it starts

[copper ice]

based entirely on my subjective 3 second opinions

i would kill for 2142 two

[warm stirrup]

2143?

[copper ice]

alternatively, bfv set in 2942

[slow tulip]

Ohh yeah you can chat with the enemy team, which took forever to arrive

[ebon pilot]

unlike in the past when ea pushed players towards... live services and microtransactions. business as usual tbh

[copper ice]

world war two weapons and vehicles but with the technology of the future

garand that shoots laserbeams

[last swift]

BF1 2

[fervent rose]

too vanguard

[slow tulip]

Bf2042 don't have a campaign

[copper ice]

titanfall but you make the mecha a tiger

just give the tanks legs and everything will work out

Trust me

[slow tulip]

Ea themselves said single player games and gamers are bad, in their controversial tweet

[ebon pilot]

i don't even know anyone that played the battlefield campaigns except me

[copper ice]

single player generates less income

harder to retain consistent playerbase for single player

[slow tulip]

Bfbc2 was very good, even way better than bf2042, has a far better reception than bf2042

[copper ice]

the more consistent the more likely to buy skins

[slow tulip]

A lot better experience than EA's live services

[fervent rose]

its fine to do the "total package" like cod4

where you have a great campaign and mp

but dice sweden isnt capable

[slow tulip]

Star wars Jedi fallen order is good

[fervent rose]

they make bad campaigns lmao

[ebon pilot]

titanfall 2 is good

[slow tulip]

Performed a lot better than bf2042 lol

[warm stirrup]

Even Activision is horrible now
Year 2 content for mw2 is og mw2 maps for $60

[slow tulip]

Has campaign

The only good EA's live service is apex legends

[copper ice]

bf1 war stories were about atmosphere rather than gameplay, bfv had single player and co-op and battle royale and and and they were all dogshit wastes of time, 2042 dropped it completely and still pooped out extraction zone

[warm stirrup]

$60 for reused assets

[copper ice]

they keep messing up anything that isnt standard

[slow tulip]

2042 wasn't even done when they released that game

[copper ice]

i miss titanfall so much

none of their games have been done when released

2042 STILL isnt done

[turbid compass]

The game just crashed 🙃

Fun

[copper ice]

thank you for proving my point so eloquently

[ebon pilot]

2042 has rarely crashed for me except for the time I was going to introduce the game to a bunch of people for a lan party

and then it exploded when I tried to spawn

it was a sign of things to come

jk everyone had fun playing against bots
and me

[slow tulip]

Still missing many features that it's predecessors offers

[last swift]

Platoons

[onyx mica]

sorry something came up while i was typing, i will ask you next time

[upbeat sand]

Literally nothing but skins

[tropic hazel]

update's oot

[wise compass]

Is patch live?

[spare quest]

no

[wise compass]

Yes, it is. Im downloading right now

1.12 GB on PC

[spare quest]

Didn‘t they say 12 UTC

[wise compass]

Patch 8 UTC, all chat enabled in game 12 UTC

[spare quest]

[tropic hazel]

oh.

lame

[wise compass]

Yea xD

Typical DICE

[tropic hazel]

why does it need to be delayed

bet you can enable it in a config somewhere

[warm stirrup]

Options >display >hud options >chat settings

Doesn't activate until 12 utc tho

[tropic hazel]

it's just text chat

[short oracle]

is there patch notes somewhere

[tropic hazel]

don't overthink it

not with enemy team for some reason

[warm stirrup]

Text chat is with whole team and in 4 hours all chat

[tropic hazel]

I hope we can disable the over-aggressive filter too

makes a big difference tbh

[chilly jacinth]

It's a big change

[warm stirrup]

They announced all chat will be disabled until 12 utc

[chilly jacinth]

Now everyone in the match can curse at you

[patent path]

700mb update uwu what's this

[tropic hazel]

Setting isn't even there yet, what a weird thing to do

[patent path]

all chat?