RPGs in hardline 
#battlefield-2042
plain hare
arctic grove
Nah if EA would have taken the hint the bitching could have prevented the franchise from getting worse. Look where we ended up lol.
best you can do is grenade launcher
proper rover
RPGs in hardline <:CursedCat:869694866752405554>
the criminals are rich though
proper rover
defib exists on certain maps
in actual defib holders
modest rune
anyone know why the sens on bf 2042 just feels like ass no matter what 😂
plain hare
anyone know why the sens on bf 2042 just feels like ass no matter what 😂
No idea
wooden briar
Rpgs were fun in hardline
upbeat sand
Don't think some crooks or police would have a military AR
acoustic seal
Nah if EA would have taken the hint the bitching could have prevented the franch...
hardline getting released in the middle of bf4's life and being ignored is not the reason the franchise is shit
plain hare
it’s not just me right ?
No, this game as a ton of exclusive problems it's prolly not your set up
acoustic seal
anyone know why the sens on bf 2042 just feels like ass no matter what 😂
input is bugged, it has always been bugged
modest rune
input is bugged, it has always been bugged
alright ty
plain hare
Mouse input is buggy, weird packet loss randomly even with great internet, poor optimization, etc
plain hare
Game's a shit show, prolly should've released it this year tbh
spiral folio
Its fine
proper rover
it would be cool if they add khai from bfh to 2042
upbeat sand
it would be cool if they add khai from bfh to 2042
You mean your partner in the campaign?
proper rover
Yes
upbeat sand
One who gets shot and has that really impressive scene of stopping the blood
wooden briar
Fuck condor heli
glacial quarry
bullets do 5x more damage in a cutscene
upbeat sand
I don't think hardline isn't coming back outside maybe weapon and references
modest rune
is there a campaign on 2042 or am i blind
proper rover
is there a campaign on 2042 or am i blind
no
glacial quarry
is there a campaign on 2042 or am i blind
upbeat sand
Since hardline was more of a spin-off and people didnt really like the campaign
spiral folio
Its great when people come in and bitch about the game
modest rune
<:kekw:885451598866825236>
i’m dead
upbeat sand
Plus she's most likely still a cop and not nopat
spiral folio
In the room solely dedicated to that game
upbeat sand
is there a campaign on 2042 or am i blind
Nop
plain hare
Ive enjoyed the game
Doesn't mean the game doesn't have a ton of problems
upbeat sand
i’m dead
But all the specialists do have their own bios, some player cards have lore on them and https://www.ea.com/en-au/games/battlefield/battlefield-2042/the-world-of-battlefield-2042 this
acoustic seal
Its great when people come in and bitch about the game
yeah we should be more accepting of mediocre, rushed, and poorly thought out products
plain hare
Triple A titles should be well optimized and have decent inputs for a good chunk of their player-base, that's the bare minimum
proper rover
But all the specialists do have their own bios, some player cards have lore on t...
sundance was in bf3 paris
acoustic seal
working input is a brutal expectation smh
upbeat sand
sundance was in bf3 paris
Are they really in the campaign
proper rover
Are they really in the campaign
no
proper rover
it says she was in paris during a nuclear disaster
glacial quarry
bf2042 feels like its made by interns
upbeat sand
Hardline is probably canon but it ended very cliff hangery
And I doubt the people in the campaign would become nopats
proper rover
i mean no-pats like oz are criminals
plain hare
working input is a brutal expectation smh
Yep according to people with battered wife syndrome
upbeat sand
Would be nice to see em again but with hardline's med reviews and people being upset over the cliche campaign probably low
spiral folio
I think its ironic people will bitch more about a game than the shitty car they buy
acoustic seal
is this a car server?
proper rover
hardline has a driveable couch
plain hare
I think its ironic people will bitch more about a game than the shitty car they ...
Damn so you buy shitty games and cars? Thanks for sharing I guess?
upbeat sand
hardline has a driveable couch
Classic
They need to bring back the American dream
Holy I just got that
Swedish people making fun of amercians for being lazy
How did I not get that
spiral folio
Well its like how people will spend 30 minutes deciding what toothbrush to buy and then impulse buy a pizza for 10x the price
upbeat sand
Well its like how people will spend 30 minutes deciding what toothbrush to buy a...
With fashion thats X50
wooden briar
The fuck is wrong with this game
arctic grove
Do you guys like the new map?
plain hare
Well its like how people will spend 30 minutes deciding what toothbrush to buy a...
That really comes down to people who make poor financial decisions and are indecisive, I don't see how that's a positive thing
spiral folio
Where to start
plain hare
The fuck is wrong with this game
A lot of things my friend
upbeat sand
Do you guys like the new map?
Flashpoint is a pretty pick up and play map but it's not a map people will be able to play for longevity
spiral folio
Im not saying its the best battlefield game ever but there's no point being here if you dont play it and hate it
upbeat sand
Flashpoint is 6/10 for me
plain hare
Im not saying its the best battlefield game ever but there's no point being here...
I do play it, but I am critical of it because I have the right to be critical of it
I don't hate the game, but it's undeniably got a lot of issues
spiral folio
Most of the issues ive got are balance issues. I am getting the black screen crash sometime
acoustic seal
Do you guys like the new map?
i can't give it a rating until the boundary lines and bt sectors are redrawn by someone with a working brain stem
arctic grove
I play a round here and there because I like the vehicle gameplay. But this game is just not good. Theres some aspect where you can see potential, but that doesn't help.
The lack of urban warfare kills the maps. Every map is rural with structures sprinkled across.
plain hare
While the game is much better than it was at launch, it's still got a lot of issues performance wise
spiral folio
Urban combat sucks and generally the best solution to urban combat is shooting through walls or dropping a jdam
robust vapor
Crash issues and sometimes I don't load into matches
upbeat sand
I hope the next map will be more like a launch map since I'm getting a bit tired of the straight line layout stranded, spearhead and splash point have
robust vapor
Also need better anti cheat
spiral folio
Baghdad saw a lot of use of cannister shot from the abrams.
upbeat sand
Splash point
upbeat sand
Also need better anti cheat
Ya everything I've seen easy anticheat rarely actually detects cheaters and just stops people from modding their games or use hardware software
plain hare
Can't wait for the Jet rework tbh, that's gonna be great
arctic grove
It really annoys me to no end that this franchise is a minimal viable product now. The games used to be so damn good.
upbeat sand
Fuck Im willing to use something like Vanguard
robust vapor
Ya everything I've seen easy anticheat rarely actually detects cheaters and just...
Dood I encountered an aimbot user yesterday
Was proning behind good thicc cover but got headshot behind
upbeat sand
Just as long as I stop getting fucking kicked from matches for using headphone software
upbeat sand
Dood I encountered an aimbot user yesterday
Classic easy
plain hare
It really annoys me to no end that this franchise is a minimal viable product no...
I think a huge problem is that when Dice cleans up the worst of it people pretend there isn't still a mediocre game at hand
acoustic seal
The lack of urban warfare kills the maps. Every map is rural with structures spr...
the current maps could be tolerable with way more cover and line of sight blockers, they painted themselves into a corner with infantry explosives and couldn't make smaller/urban maps if they wanted to
upbeat sand
I want more orbital or kelidescope like maps
arctic grove
give me CQC maps
plain hare
I wish hourglass was more focused on the city part instead of big empty desert
upbeat sand
I kinda feel like the reason we got mal layouts like spearhead and flashpoint was because of everyone telling they want more cqc
A bit too much cqc
arctic grove
I think a huge problem is that when Dice cleans up the worst of it people preten...
And the problem is not innovation. Look at battlefield 2142. Going full sci fi is a huge innovation to the franchise, but it was still good. Same with bad company.
idc
I want more metro
locker
acoustic seal
give me CQC maps
hello youtube today i will be showing you how to go 300-0 with zain and sph
arctic grove
fort de vaut
upbeat sand
You think the map devs who made metro, locker, Argonne forest and Solomon Islands are still with DICE
plain hare
And the problem is not innovation. Look at battlefield 2142. Going full sci fi i...
I agree we need legitimate innovation, I think a huge part of it is trying to fix what isn't broken too
upbeat sand
With the mass exodus of old employees
arctic grove
I agree we need legitimate innovation, I think a huge part of it is trying to fi...
I think what they need now is zero innovation and completely go back to the roots. Remastered BF2 or 2142.
upbeat sand
I think what they need now is zero innovation and completely go back to the root...
That's a bit too too far I'd say
arctic grove
or make a new game with old battlefield mechanics.
give me something like 4, 1, hardline
acoustic seal
I agree we need legitimate innovation, I think a huge part of it is trying to fi...
fuck innovation, we need to go back to game design basics like why previous games used spread to limit engagement distances or why classes were implemented to limit carried equipment
plain hare
A true BF3 remaster would be nice too
arctic grove
WITH proper offline play and Bots
proper rover
make a hardline sequel
arctic grove
that's all i wanted
spiral folio
Bf3 remaster
So modern combat with some future stuff
upbeat sand
Yes
plain hare
People will complain about anything valid or not
arctic grove
bro noone would complain about remastered bf2 with newest engine and destruction.
arctic grove
bro noone would complain about remastered bf2 with newest engine and destruction...
although I mind the slow paced gameplay
upbeat sand
If 2042 was a near 1 to 1 recreation to bf4 then people would just complain how it's a carbon copy with no inspiration
arctic grove
so idk if I would like it
rustic mango
Good morning guys
arctic grove
But with all the bf2 dlc like the spec ops expansion and nato expansion.
4 brought back commander, a bonus
plain hare
If 2042 was a near 1 to 1 recreation to bf4 then people would just complain how ...
I personally wouldn't complain but it's understandable other people wouldn't be happy
upbeat sand
Didn't people say at bf4;w launch that it was just bf3 but buggy
plain hare
BF4 launch was terrible
upbeat sand
Very
arctic grove
I didnt even play bf4 at launch the reception was so bad.
let's compare to the current state of 2042 to 4 of the same timeline
upbeat sand
Do not go onto the steam discussions of 2042
It's literally just people trying to dog pile on anyone who says a spec of positivity
plain hare
2042 definitely had a worse launch imo, I never encountered a combination of horrible fundamentals and bugs in my life
acoustic seal
It's literally just people trying to dog pile on anyone who says a spec of posit...
is it positivity or is it wishful thinking?
upbeat sand
is it positivity or is it wishful thinking?
Both
arctic grove
wtf is plus
upbeat sand
I mean some guy said that they where looking forward to the lethiathan event and got 8+ clowns
What
upbeat sand
-Yes I am excited for new content
- gets told that's bad
spiral folio
Yea new content better than retreading old stuff
wooden briar
If this is team game, then why they dont show the best team
arctic grove
tbh with you
next onyx
Plus system unironically great.
wooden briar
But single players
arctic grove
I'm not looking forward to new content
upbeat sand
It's either people saying that they want refunds or to overhaul the game to BF2 days
arctic grove
only bringing back old content
plain hare
Honestly the plus system is great in my opinion
spiral folio
Yea i wish i could take the +System to bf1
plain hare
I dunno why people shit on the plus system
upbeat sand
Or to just launch a new game
I don't think they realise if they did it would be worst than 2042's launch
arctic grove
I dunno why people shit on the plus system
I really don't like it
spiral folio
Modern shooters are super similar as it is
wooden briar
Bring back premium to battlefield
spiral folio
10x thermal sight on a tankgewehr
plain hare
Now I dislike the mag swapping but, the optic change is really nice
upbeat sand
Bring back premium to battlefield
Yes I would like to be locked out to content over a 30+ dollar DLC just to realise no one else purchased it so in a empty lobby
arctic grove
next thing you know, swapping gadgets is next
acoustic seal
I dunno why people shit on the plus system
no point in loadouts when you can have everything, no predictabiliy in fighting enemies, stupid peripheral issues like separate ammo pools for ammo types and UBGLs
wooden briar
Was live service better?
spiral folio
Wonder how many guns would be eliminated in bf1 from the + system alone
upbeat sand
At least live service ment everyone got the fre stuff and whent locked out by pay walls
plain hare
no point in loadouts when you can have everything, no predictabiliy in fighting ...
I agree the ammo pools are stupid for sure, do you think it'd be unbalanced if it was only for optics?
arctic grove
At least live service ment everyone got the fre stuff and whent locked out by pa...
and if the game server died?
If BF1 and BF5 would have been less arcadey and ridiculous they could've been good.
upbeat sand
and if the game server died?
I guess they'll get other ways to get money
spiral folio
Bf1 is good i just wish it had
-bf5s ammo dumps and construction
-2042a bots and +system
arctic grove
Japanese on the western front jumpshotting you around the corner with a red dot.
spiral folio
Oh and 2042s ballistics
upbeat sand
Yea so give some shit for free and lock the good ones in season pass
As long as the actual game changing content is free I'm fine
arctic grove
Bf1 is good i just wish it had
-bf5s ammo dumps and construction
-2042a bots and...
Bad company 1 should've had bots since that time!!!
acoustic seal
I agree the ammo pools are stupid for sure, do you think it'd be unbalanced if i...
it would be better if it was just optics but you're still letting people make a gun that's good for every situation, at least with 2042 laser beam gunplay
spiral folio
I played the hell out of bf2 bot battles
plain hare
Japanese on the western front jumpshotting you around the corner with a red dot.
My great grandfather did that 
arctic grove
red dots and all kinds of scoped in bf5
arctic grove
I played the hell out of bf2 bot battles
gotta use mods to fix their behavior
their vanilla behavior is ass.somwtimes
plain hare
it would be better if it was just optics but you're still letting people make a ...
God the gunplay needs a huge overhaul
spiral folio
And bf play4free had so many [certain] players it was basically bots
wooden briar
Fucking gamw
Why cant we have squad management
Why do I have to run 500 m in el alamein alone
plain hare
Also 2042 really needs a fucking shooting range
wooden briar
Just cause its not enough players so im alone in a squad
arctic grove
I need a fuckin offline mode / bots to play solo
how is that hard to wish
BFV V5 rocket you can call in was amazing.
with the destruction.
How you could just roll through a house in a tank.
wooden briar
This game is hard to release
wooden briar
Yay, t1 blasco
arctic grove
via WR
wooden briar
I aint calmin down son
next onyx
When the person gets to cocky with the vector so you pull out an actual gun like the scar and annihilate them.
upbeat sand
When the person gets to cocky with the vector so you pull out an actual gun like...
Use the ghost maker
wooden briar
Just like venice unleashed
next onyx
I have to get the crossbow done eventually but pistols first.
arctic grove
VU stripped rank system and no integral bots
wooden briar
So they leave their wives
arctic grove
yes
upbeat sand
I don't think army's will go that far
With weapon names
Th hope 2042 gets a Y3
That will have a positive effect on battlefield a bit cause it'll show that DICE are more determined and wont give up ont the game
And plus the extra year of content means more polishing for the next title
spiral folio
Some reused/remade stuff is ok but i wouldnt want a full remake and revert back to the olden tymes
upbeat sand
Now you see people will complain that maps are low effort
And on the other side people will complain that the maps have too much detail and should make more med quality ones
spiral folio
Just modern modern modern. Thats literally what bf2042 is
Just modern again
Like bf4
They just put a year on it and hexagons
acoustic seal
That will have a positive effect on battlefield a bit cause it'll show that DICE...
the foundation is rotten, i'd rather they demolish the house and start over than keep adding more floors
upbeat sand
Hardline was more of a side project while making BF1 so prob not
spiral folio
Bc1 bc2 bf3 4 hardline in the big clump of modern shooters EA shoved out
spiral folio
Ive liked the balance better in older eras without guided stuff and aps forcefields
spiral folio
Future stuff tends to be worse balanced
Ie stealths and aps
upbeat sand
And the bay of bigs invasion
spiral folio
They even have to dumb down modern tech so its not too powerful
wooden briar
Good cause obviosly they cant make it good
spiral folio
Well because we'd have stealth f35s firing antitank missiles from 5 miles away
plain hare
Like going back to Vietnam and the Korean wars
Desert Storm too
wooden briar
Its an idea that was said already
spiral folio
The guided missiles in the korean war were basically how the ones in the game work now
plain hare
Cold War gone hot would be a sick era
upbeat sand
Desert Storm too
Untapped potential since dice has only done battlefield Vietnam and the Vietnam dlc in bc2
spiral folio
Maybe a little less accurate
acoustic seal
rip '83, shelved for a singleplayer game nobody cares about
wooden briar
And they would add specialists
Vietnamese akira
Yeah why not
Would they give a damn
plain hare
I'm really tired of seeing the same damn eras in most shooters, BF1 was a nice breath of fresh air tbh
wooden briar
Slap a "tom cruise american spy" skin pack
upbeat sand
Specialists are def gonna be in future set games def not older settings
spiral folio
Yea i skipped the bf3 to bf4 era of nonstop modern shooters
plain hare
I like modern shooters but it's fucking boring after the millionth time
Same with WW2 shooters
wooden briar
Cold war would bring many experimental weapons
upbeat sand
Yeah why not
The specialists will prob return in 2042 sequels
But not in games that are set in before 2042
spiral folio
Cold war is basically also modern weapons
M16s ak47s tow missiles
The m16 is seriously 60yrs
upbeat sand
No legendary skin shit
Couch cough bf1 weapon skins and loot boxes
spiral folio
Bf1 did loot boxes right
upbeat sand
Cold war setting would be good to bring back operations
plain hare
Also it'd be nice to see a game where it isn't just US vs Russia
spiral folio
Cold war is just this game without hexagons
spiral folio
Also it'd be nice to see a game where it isn't just US vs Russia
China wont allow a game where china is an enemy so russia is usually the generic punchingbag
Bf1 lootboxes had that scraps currency you could earn through gameplay and scrao repeat items
And then you can buy the better boxes
acoustic seal
make another battlefield that gets banned in china so we can instantly get rid of 80% of cheaters
plain hare
China wont allow a game where china is an enemy so russia is usually the generic...
It's really dumb, I'd like to see a game where we see Iran and Israel go toe to toe
spiral folio
For all it matters the "russia" faction could be Cobra from Gijoe
plain hare
Wish Western entertainment would stop catering to China
upbeat sand
make another battlefield that gets banned in china so we can instantly get rid o...
Chinese Steam has bf4 un buyable but the DLC is available for some reason
spiral folio
Isnt there a battle in china on bf4
plain hare
CCP really gets their panties in a twist over a video game
spiral folio
Like shanghai
potent trench
Is it just me, or does it feel like doing the weekly on bf2042 requires more commitment now?
plain hare
Yeah
potent trench
like seriously, 75 revives and 70 captures/neutralized?
plain hare
Is it just me, or does it feel like doing the weekly on bf2042 requires more com...
It isn't just you
upbeat sand
Isnt there a battle in china on bf4
Ya China is a main antagonist in bf4 and China does not like being shown as the bad guy which is the reason it's banned
radiant prism
Honestly I’m fine with that
proper rover
like seriously, 75 revives and 70 captures/neutralized?
50 captures for me
potent trench
It isn't just you
thank God
radiant prism
Keeps the weeklies from feeling like dailies
wooden briar
Cause chinese money
potent trench
50 captures for me
oh right yeah, sorry i bloated it a bit
spiral folio
China also has laws against anything that causes harm to pandas too
plain hare
It'd be really cool to get a game about a US vs China conflict in/over Taiwan, but you know that would never happen
potent trench
Keeps the weeklies from feeling like dailies
I prefer it to feel like dailies rather than weekly mission, and the mandatory weekly mission feels like daily
spiral folio
Youll get a real war in taiwan and then youll get a game about it a few years later
potent trench
I'd say it requires more commitment rather than hard, cause the objectives itself are somewhat easy-moderate (except for multikill etc)
proper rover
Youll get a real war in taiwan and then youll get a game about it a few years la...
cod china
plain hare
China also has laws against anything that causes harm to pandas too
Too bad they don't have laws protecting uyghur human rights
That would be sick
spiral folio
Only way you'll see a game vs china is if devs stop caring about thet market
zinc oyster
Folks, is it just me or is Battlefield2042 not rotating maps from my PS5 console? All day Exposure and Spearhead, what's going on? Can anyone tell me if you are in the same situation!
plain hare
Yeah for sure
plain hare
Folks, is it just me or is Battlefield2042 not rotating maps from my PS5 console...
Might just be bad luck
proper rover
Folks, is it just me or is Battlefield2042 not rotating maps from my PS5 console...
not just you
spiral folio
Folks, is it just me or is Battlefield2042 not rotating maps from my PS5 console...
Just bad luck
potent trench
Folks, is it just me or is Battlefield2042 not rotating maps from my PS5 console...
yes, happens on PC
zinc oyster
holyyyyy 😦 all day the same map
plain hare
I keep getting manifest and flashpoint, both maps I hate
zinc oyster
yeah what happen?
zinc oyster
what's mean?
spiral folio
Random wouldnt be random if you didnt occasionally get the same thing
potent trench
what's mean?
basically you only play the same 4 maps over and over again
and if ure unlucky, yu keep getting the same map
arctic grove
make another battlefield that gets banned in china so we can instantly get rid o...
Just say tasmanian square massacre april 1969 and their internet will be turned off
plain hare
really made you wish we had server browser huh
I miss server browser so much
zinc oyster
hummm got it but iss too boring 😦
plain hare
So sick of queing up just cancel it because I don't wanna play on flashpoint
zinc oyster
a week? relase new maps or update?
plain hare
It feels like a big empty space with just some hills and a few scattered buildings
Oh wait that's just most 2042 maps actually
zinc oyster
thanks for everybody and community
exposure and spearhead .... 😦 nothing more for now, bye no-pats
zinc oyster
thanks jojo (PC)
vapid crystal
How do yall max out weapons
proper rover
kills
spare depot
How do yall max out weapons
playing the game but there are some portal servers where you can rack up kills on bots to unlock attachments
breakthrough and rush give more infantry kills than conquest usually
potent trench
I miss server browser so much
same man
remember back in 2011 when they hyped up BF3 console release because it has Server Browsers "just like on PC" as its selling point?
those were the days
I get it, BF and COD should take note of each other's weakness and positives so each franchise can improve
but zamn, BF really did took the worst thing outta COD lol
plain hare
COD movement and gunplay should've stayed in Cod too
chilly jacinth
and it has stayed in cod
wooden briar
Looks at third person melee takedowns
chilly jacinth
try reinstalling EAC
wooden briar
Wonder how battlefield theme would sound with cold war setup
royal swan
just on that black screen
Let me guess, you're on PC and the game is saved on a hard drive
regal lantern
what exactly are marksman kills?
one of the bp missions state that I need to do 2
do the BSV-M kills not count towards it?
spiral folio
The black screen is a crash error basically
There's no work around
Just close and restart
arctic grove
Does anyone know why sometimes my assault rifle does burst shots even though it’s on full auto?
acoustic seal
what exactly are marksman kills?
headshot kills >200m away
ivory cape
I swear.. i just got this game yesterday and if it is about to do me dirty cause of a single map..
arctic grove
How can it still be so buggy after 2 years
acoustic seal
just never fix anything lol
ivory cape
game accused me of breaking policy cause i tried to get unstuck from a snow ledge by spam jumping..
mental cave
remote kiln
arctic grove
lmao
arctic grove
Does anyone know why sometimes my assault rifle does burst shots even though it’...
^
spiral folio
Handisport?
lilac crater
Hi guys what are the best weapon of each weapon class? And what is the best attachment setup for those
spiral folio
Railgun
quiet shell
Is DICE seriously making us wait until tomorrow to get patchnotes?
acoustic seal
Hi guys what are the best weapon of each weapon class? And what is the best atta...
rm68 works at all ranges, short barrel standard ammo and user preference for the other slots
acoustic seal
Is DICE seriously making us wait until tomorrow to get patchnotes?
the patch notes are never accurate anyway
low timber
Half way down tier 1 mp28.
What’s your thought of the sidearm?
limpid pond
Yo who won the Easter egg hunt
spiral folio
Joe did
spiral folio
Mo and ma won 2nd and 3rd places
limpid pond
You're good at that
rotund scroll
good one
acoustic seal
who the FUCK is steve jobs
limpid pond
No idea
spiral folio
Who isnt he
limpid pond
A guy who has jobs duh
spiral folio
He's the turtle neck guy from apple that acted like he invented everything
limber orbit
handisport 
bleak nebula
can't wait for all chat 😛
copper ice
handisport
fervent rose
handisport
they need a new vehicle category with this, put mav/condor/hind in it
copper ice
lmfao
cosmic dragon
just on that black screen
EAC is the problem
calm bison
He's the turtle neck guy from apple that acted like he invented everything
I thought that was Thomas Edison
remote kiln
royal trail
best advice deco. be careful so ea doesnt ban u tho. they probably want as many people playing and spending money on their games as possible during their free time
serene notch
when are they gonna fix black screen of death, this shit has been going for 8 months now
arctic grove
Who is the easiest specialist to get tier 1 and why is it Casper
arctic grove
Who is the easiest specialist to get tier 1 and why is it Casper
It’s that
Legless dude
polar quartz
Who is the easiest specialist to get tier 1 and why is it Casper
Paik easy on rush XL
arctic grove
True
arctic grove
Yeah Rush XL is clutch for mastery
With Casper you get like instant max intel ribbon from all the pings
remote kiln
next onyx
LMAO.
edgy oriole
how
quaint vector
Hax
edgy oriole
literally
his fit fire tho
got that grassland digital with the surgical gloves
lilac crater
Is the m5 the best assault rifle? (Not including the new battle pass one)
quaint vector
Maybe he did it on Solo breakthrough mode
lilac crater
yes
Just trying to figure out which gun is best to use as a new player, can’t decide between the m5 and the ak, until I unlock the scar
Quite liking the pp smg and the bsv
edgy oriole
new player guns are surprisingly some of the best. pp-29, m5, lcmg, sws. 12m
wooden briar
We should be dealing with a finished product
dusky tulip
Vehicles are still op especially helicopters
lilac crater
new player guns are surprisingly some of the best. pp-29, m5, lcmg, sws. 12m
Love the pp-29 it’s very surprising. I’m oddly liking the bsv especially for engineer liz, it fits her so well!
edgy oriole
hind is the most op. and ive been seeing the brawler and ram more
i thought the vehicle thing was a question not a statement 
on my part
edgy oriole
but all weapons in general are all practical to use now. besides the pump shotty. so pick your fav and go for it.
wooden briar
Are we in 2010 with these lame spawns? Spawning upon shootout? Upon grenade expliosion?
Bf5 was annoying with "you cant spawn" but at least prevented from such things
wide shore
It still does the can’t spawn thing.
wide shore
Spawning on squad mates is always a gamble. Spawn on the flags for safer spawns
wooden briar
Worked better in bf5
ebon pilot
Is the m5 the best assault rifle? (Not including the new battle pass one)
most versatile gun in the game
wide shore
A lot of things did. But I’ve died instantly spawning on squad mates in every BF game.
fervent rose
all spawns in this game are a gamble except if you place intelligent spawn beacons
robust vapor
It's normal
edgy oriole
im finna bust out the ak dozer today
robust vapor
I once spawned in and got killed by a debris dropping on me
edgy oriole
on god im finna bust out the ak dozer today
fervent rose
too many of the spawns are in the wide open
arctic grove
Vehicles are still op especially helicopters
N O H
rustic mango
Do you have season pass
edgy oriole
i have it bc i pre ordered the game. im def not gonna get a year 2 if they sell a bundle.
radiant prism
im finna bust out the ak dozer today
Based
carmine rover
meow
glacial quarry
ak24 is shit
calm bison
ak24 is shit
So is your opinion
edgy oriole
ak hasnt been good since they fixed its single shot being a menace
glacial quarry
ak has such a terrible range
radiant prism
AK is good and anyone who says otherwise is just bad at the game
That or they’re a meta slave
glacial quarry
10m 4 shot kill
radiant prism
I’m sorry
glacial quarry
wooden briar
Better this than porn slave
glacial quarry
just use sfar
calm bison
just use sfar
Meta slave
wide shore
I love the AK despite its shit damage at range. It’s the gun I have the most kills with.
radiant prism
Ok but I don’t want to use the SFAR
lilac crater
That or they’re a meta slave
What even is the meta for each class
radiant prism
I want to use the AK
glacial quarry
even M5 is better than ak
radiant prism
I get higher kill games with the AK than the SFAR tbh
glacial quarry
of course ak isnt bad but like it gets outperformed by most guns
glacial quarry
10m 4 shot range
calm bison
Just use the 416
glacial quarry
after that its a 5 shot kill 650rpm
fervent rose
you dont need the best gun in bf to have a fine round, but ak is clearly the worst of the regular 2042 AR
radiant prism
Least it’s not the ACW I guess
glacial quarry
10m is basically point blank
fervent rose
yea 100% a usable gun compared to the bad vault ones
radiant prism
I personally love it
calm bison
Least it’s not the ACW I guess
You leave my boy the ACWR alone
glacial quarry
most of your kills arent gonna be 10m or less
fervent rose
the only thing going for it is the full auto spread is very low
radiant prism
It’s very accurate yeah
glacial quarry
even if you play exclusively super close cqb
lilac crater
@radiant prism what is the meta at the moment
radiant prism
Also the grenade launcher is very nice
glacial quarry
still a lot gonna be above 10m
radiant prism
<@471122014846058506> what is the meta at the moment
RM68 probably idk
glacial quarry
so just use M5a3
fervent rose
yea rm68 or pp29 or an lmg
glacial quarry
m5a3 short barrel kills point blnak in the same time as ak24
but its up to 30m
ak only 10m
fervent rose
bsvm remains incredible too
glacial quarry
dogshit ttk
lilac crater
Oooh okay, I’m new is all
calm bison
IMO the worst AR in AOW is the MTAR
lilac crater
bsvm remains incredible too
My favourite gun at the moment
next onyx
ACW-R exists.
fierce epoch
Last week missions were a little too exaggerated for me. Specially the last row of capturing like 40 objectives or something like that. I couldn’t even reach the bonus mission last week :/
next onyx
5HK 720 RPM.
glacial quarry
its low recoil dont matter too cuz every gun has no recoil
next onyx
Bad gun.
lilac crater
Just unlocked it at level 19, and I love it
fervent rose
acw-r, followed by mtar
wooden briar
Looks like skill issue
fervent rose
btw dont use heavy barrel mtar it is wildly bugged
glacial quarry
5HK 720 RPM.
ak is basically 5hk 650 rpm
the 10m 4 shot kill is gonna be relevant very little of the time
fervent rose
but just dont use mtar at all, aek is much better
glacial quarry
just use sfar lmao
sfar isnt even meta
its a mid af gun imo but way better than ak24
fervent rose
it is, best gun that has ap ubgl
radiant prism
SFAR isn’t even meta
fervent rose
but people dont always want to play the "best" setup
radiant prism
homie really said it
karmic phoenix
ACW-R meta 🗣️ 🗣️
radiant prism
also the MTAR is fucking crazy up close
edgy oriole
sfar isnt meta bc m5 is
fervent rose
yea sfar use rates are dropping like mad
radiant prism
Sometimes I feel like I’m playing a different game from everyone else
fervent rose
every season has a busted new gun that half the playerbase spams
radiant prism
Everyone hates all the guns I pop off with
lilac crater
Does changing fire rate change the damage of each bullet output? Or does a full auto bullet do the same as a semi auto bullet for the bsv
glacial quarry
guess it defines how you define pop off
karmic phoenix
also the MTAR is fucking crazy up close
AM40 insane in close range too
calm bison
Just went to Symthic
karmic phoenix
Does changing fire rate change the damage of each bullet output? Or does a full ...
i think full auto has less damage yeah
but not 100% sure
calm bison
Basically DICE has deliberately nerfed the ACWR
calm bison
The ACWR in BF4 had 880 RPM
radiant prism
It’s not bad and it shreds up close but it just kicks so much
fervent rose
Does changing fire rate change the damage of each bullet output? Or does a full ...
if you're just talking single fire vs full auto, its the same. but single fire has less recoil
radiant prism
MTAR was very fun to get to T1
karmic phoenix
Controlling it at least
controller or m+kb?
radiant prism
Low visual recoil
radiant prism
controller or m+kb?
MKB
wooden briar
Can you tell what are the best attachments for a gun
calm bison
I’d like the MTAR if the bullets went where I aimed
karmic phoenix
not perfect but fine
glacial quarry
Does changing fire rate change the damage of each bullet output? Or does a full ...
single fire less recoil per shot but it literally dont matter no guns except pkp bp has recoil
karmic phoenix
Can you tell what are the best attachments for a gun
0 attachments best way to go fr fr
glacial quarry
Can you tell what are the best attachments for a gun
short barrel is always the best if its not available then use suppressor
fervent rose
single fire less recoil per shot but it literally dont matter no guns except pkp...
it effects spread too
glacial quarry
spread is almost non existent too
edgy oriole
pkp launch vs pkp now is like a different gun bc of that recoil nerf. and im thankful for it
radiant prism
im doing fine on mkb with the am40
I mean yeah I’m fine too, just not as much as with other guns
glacial quarry
they need to give the ak24 a 30m 4 shot kil range
radiant prism
pkp launch vs pkp now is like a different gun bc of that recoil nerf. and im tha...
PKP was a little crazy yeah
glacial quarry
pp29 has a 30m 4 shot kill range and it fires faster
outranged by an smg
shit gun ong fr
radiant prism
It’s ok baby AK don’t listen to them, words can’t hurt you
attempts to comfort gun
glacial quarry
ak the worst non vault AR
edgy oriole
im just using the ak to unlock another gun then im moving on 
glacial quarry
2nd worst overall
i probably only get killed by an AK past 10 meters like once every 10 games
cuz its so bad lmfao
radiant prism
I swear im playing a different game from the rest of you
next onyx
If there's one thing to describe the AK. It's that it's a balanced gun. It could use an RPM and range change though.
glacial quarry
it just needs its 4sk increased to 30m and it will be good
10m is such a joke lmfao
and 5 sk to 75m is good but aint shit when u literally have m16
torpid wadi
I guess we know what side dice is on with the AR vs AK debate
edgy oriole
cartel edition
glacial quarry
in a game with no recoil just use whichever gun kills the fastest
lilac crater
if you're just talking single fire vs full auto, its the same. but single fire ...
So each bullet does the same damage none the less? Thank you
glacial quarry
ak is far from that
even at point blank range its TTK is only 267ms thats the same as M5 short barrel
spare depot
funny how the only "clan" i see in this game are people with AOD in their name, not like BF4 where they all had their own servers ig
radiant prism
cartel edition
Sex
Though I don’t use either of Dozers legendary skins
I think MW22 has put a bad taste in my mouth with skull face skins
edgy oriole
dozers cartel bundle was the best bundle they dropped.
radiant prism
Because people suddenly think Ghost was an actual character
Sorry needed to pop off there
edgy oriole
minus the america m5 they dropped
torpid wadi
Fashion over function
radiant prism
Based
torpid wadi
The ak24 goes hard as hell
radiant prism
Dragons Breath skin on the AK-24 got me misbehaving
That sexy metal bodywork with the red mag
torpid wadi
Are you really the winner if you looked ugly while killing em?
edgy oriole
im bringing my kd back up after my marathon of using soflam only getting zero kills
radiant prism
I joined a server this morning called Afghan war sim
And it was the worst thing ever
torpid wadi
Imagine having a decent kd
torpid wadi
Ah hardcore
torpid wadi
Jeez 40 percent? Aint hc 60?
carmine rover
Afghan war sim
torpid wadi
Pretty sure at 40 percent sneezing a little too hard might kill ya
radiant prism
It was just standard BF3 with HC on all the desert maps
radiant prism
Pretty sure at 40 percent sneezing a little too hard might kill ya
Accurate to the experience I had this morning tbh
radiant prism
Can someone post the dragons breath ak skin for me
I need to see it
Best gun skins, go
edgy oriole
anything digital, america m5 and cartel ak
torpid wadi
I should play some 42
radiant prism
That one 12M skin
Uhhh
The blue one
I can’t remember the name
But it came out recently and is pure sex
torpid wadi
I like that pretty much pure white ak24 skin they have out a little while back
radiant prism
The liquidators one?
edgy oriole
best charm = all the gnomes
carmine rover
liquidator so cool 🥺
torpid wadi
Aye it was for that event
lilac crater
I can confirm that fire mode doesn’t change damage output per bullet
torpid wadi
It reminds me of a shark for some reason
radiant prism
The barrel workings remind me of IW
carmine rover
Blahaj skin
edgy oriole
this best 12m skin
this is also the best skin that was only available for ~24 hours
and ya boy got it
torpid wadi
this best 12m skin
That is nifty looking
edgy oriole
i think its funny everyone threw a fit over a christmas theme but they drop a chinese new year on chinese new year and nobody said anything
im still waiting for my god damn christmas tank
chilly jacinth
just wait for year 2
wooden briar
This game really can get on a nerve
chilly jacinth
just remove all nerves
wooden briar
Got a comedian here ey?
radiant prism
this is also the best skin that was only available for ~24 hours
They brought it back for free recently
I have it too
edgy oriole
when
graceful tinsel
Yo can someone tell me some settings i can use on air vehicles its fucking gard to control
Hard
edgy oriole
i dont believe this
silver wagon
the one preseason reward i regret missing was the rao skin set it looked so good
edgy oriole
i got all preseason rewards 
radiant prism
I love that skin
I would post my setup for it but no image perms
but its that Rao preorder torso with the balidan headpiece
silver wagon
yeah i was so annoyed when i missed it
radiant prism
yeah it goes hard
wide shore
i got all preseason rewards <a:peepoShy:1054331271561609248>
I think I missed only one.
But it think it was just a charm. I don’t remember.
next onyx
LMAOOOOO LEGAL BOT GRIND.
drowsy shuttle
Damn i dont even remember charms exist cause i never use them lol
dapper river
this is also the best skin that was only available for ~24 hours
Everyone has it now 😎
arctic grove
Cat ears skins or riot
drowsy shuttle
I would teabag every player with cat ears skin
The problem is, all of you would probably like it
arctic grove
edgy oriole
first match of cartel dozer i couldnt use him bc i had to get tor just so we didnt get farmed by helos
on the cool that thang kinda weird to get used to
lunar finch
Cat ears skins or riot
^^^^
copper ice
just use the aa launcher (:
arctic grove
Tactically cute skins for every specialist
lunar finch
yessss
arctic grove
Infinite money exploit
lunar finch
kitsune paik skin
arctic grove
PLEASE
torpid wadi
Capture the flags then
ebon pilot
Cat ears skins or riot
cat ears weapon charm
ebon pilot
countering other jets?
arctic grove
cat ears weapon charm
naive magnet
Infantry
ebon pilot
counter jets as infantry
ebon pilot
A wildcat will almost instantly kill a jet
with AA loadout
just don't be a wildcat not pointed up at the sky
tacit sorrel
Capture the flags then
Easier said than done when the majority of my teammates go 5-20
torpid wadi
Easier said than done when the majority of my teammates go 5-20
Be the hero your team needs you to be
tacit sorrel
Or I could find a new lobby instead of carrying trash
naive magnet
Dual 30mm AA on Wildcat or 57mm?
tacit sorrel
Full AA or bust
naive magnet
Let’s pretend Wildcat is unavailable, better chance to rip at the Jet with a 30mm or 50mm LATV4
edgy oriole
aks AP rounds dont pen tanks
naive magnet
Primary? Depends what you want to do
naive magnet
I used to use the 40 primarily on EBAA
Switched to 57 yesterday, they have the same speed
40mm is more fun anti-infantry, but can do a tiny chunk of damage on armor (tanks)
tacit sorrel
Auto cannons I want to make heli users gameplay living hell lol
naive magnet
The 57 doesn’t do as much to infantry, but will one shot if you get close enough, it’s the same speed as the 40mm but takes about 15% off tanks and superhind
So I’ve switched over primarily to the 57mm, tracking jets might need AA dual cannons, but the dual cannons suck at infantry and vehicles IMO
So I’d probably err towards the 57 at this point
edgy oriole
all other guns AP rounds pen tanks except AK so assuming a bug
doesnt pen helos either
spare depot
The 57 doesn’t do as much to infantry, but will one shot if you get close enough...
do you use AA or AT missiles?
fierce epoch
Last week missions were brutal. Capturing 50 objectives and performing multikills… DICE chill I’m playing on ps5 😭 couldn’t get the bonus mission for the first time
royal trail
love all the servers that abuse portal to exp farm through helis and forbid you from killing. should i report them?
arctic grove
Why do those servers even exist? Leveling in this game isn’t even bad. Progression is pretty fast.
fervent rose
Why do those servers even exist? Leveling in this game isn’t even bad. Progressi...
because battle pass contains guns and vehicles, people are lazy
royal trail
i guess ppl want the battlepass tier stuff and might not have time cuz stuck with work or whatever
arctic grove
That’s fair
I’m in college full time and have other life priorities. I managed to get to roughly tier 50 and I just started playing last month. Could be worse for sure.
radiant prism
I'm 99 at the moment lol
naive magnet
When will the conquest 128 maps go back to all rotation?
I’m sick of these same 4 maps
arctic grove
Same here unfortunately. 2042 isn’t my main game so the little time I have I spread out between a few different games.
naive magnet
Not really sure why they limit the maps in the first place tbh
next onyx
Reporting doesn't do anything anyways.
Dice have given up on moderating portal xp servers.
radiant prism
yeah but its better than nothing I guess
tacit sorrel
Never seen a bf community struggle so much on gimme flags like 2042
radiant prism
I mean how can they when the community is determined to exploit core game mechanics
Progression is suddenly a bad thing now
I've never seen this sort of thing before
fervent rose
its fomo progression
people have zero issue with exploiting the system because of fomo
next onyx
Could join one and get emps done.
radiant prism
also they should add dailies
tacit sorrel
Progression is definitely slower than previous titles
next onyx
Maybe? I'm always consistently getting 20K + points per round.
radiant prism
a lot better than it was yes
dense nexus
or still "beta"?
radiant prism
give it a shot and try that out for yourself
next onyx
The game is certainly grindier.
fervent rose
it's not as good as 4 or 5
it's in a weird place right now since they just overhauled classes
dense nexus
Can't do it on free weekends since my download is 8 Mb/s
fervent rose
and it needs further tweaks
next onyx
There are still issues but the game for the most part it is fun.
Balance needs to still be fixed and we'll be good.
fervent rose
like we are only getting all chat finally tomorrow
low timber
And the event
fervent rose
no squad menu until 4.2 or season 5 potentially
next onyx
Hopefully a balance adjustment for the rm277.
edgy oriole
event skins are dookie
low timber
But that’s mostly already in the files
edgy oriole
if they arent legendary then i may mackay it up but if they are legendary im not touching it
next onyx
I have a good chance on getting the dozer bundle because it has a scar skin in it
But we're also getting a bit of free cosmetics so.
sour meadow
i just want my teammates to not be suicidal and braindead
every driver and pilot just thinks that going straight towards the enemy is a good idea
or when they take one rocket to just kamakazi it
was playing earlier today and got in a condor and the pilot was just doing laps around the outskirts of stranded where nothing happened
people were screaming at them
fervent rose
sounds like you are in fact playing battlefield
fervent rose
crossplay makes it a bit worse i will say
sour meadow
meanwhile
on the other team
vehicle whores farming infantry
fervent rose
but i just take 2042 less seriously as a result
next onyx
Free weekends certainly do a number on it.
fervent rose
its a turbo casual title
next onyx
I just end up seeing 2042 as post bf5 drama in OCE because a lot of those people refuse to move on. I don't blame them but the fact I can play without the same drama feels nice.
sour meadow
OCE?
next onyx
Oceania.
sour meadow
oh
next onyx
My region.
sour meadow
it's turbo casual except for the enemy team
next onyx
its a turbo casual title
Talking about that. What do you think of the new model coming up?
Mode
sour meadow
they got twitch streamers and youtubers on their team
fervent rose
i'm not looking forward to it
fervent rose
blasco / tugs on small mode are gonna be so wack
next onyx
Oh dear I forgot about the tugs.
next onyx
It looks interesting cause it looks like a comp mode.
low timber
Even if it’s gonna be a fun mode, being forced to play it for 75 ribbons is not
sour meadow
i'm so sick of the push for comp bf
low timber
Like is it the same mode the week after with new rewards?
sour meadow
think so
next onyx
It's not comp but it has the potential for it.
The squad play in it makes me think it'll be good for it.
craggy oar
hey guys where would i go for help
low timber
As on Liquidators it was the same mode but different player counts on different weeks and on Nordvik event it was 3 modes on 3 weeks
craggy oar
every time i open game up it instanly kicks me off it
next onyx
Oh yeah that's right and squadconquest they doubled its player count.
low timber
Well the AK-24 skin looks nice at the very least
craggy oar
i tried repaing anit cheat isnt that issue
craggy oar
Oh yeah that's right and squadconquest they doubled its player count.
in this server tho ??
copper ice
So I’ve switched over primarily to the 57mm, tracking jets might need AA dual ca...
Dual 30mm are the best AA in the game but are terrible against everything on the ground unfortunately
wide shore
I hope this mode is good. But I’m not even gonna hold my breath.
I have not liked ANY of the events.
They feel like glorified store updates. And exist solely to sell limited edition cosmetics.
wide shore
Finally got 128 BT last event but it was awful on Spearhead
next onyx
Squad conquest was the most fun.
wide shore
So I got nothing out of it
I didn’t find it fun at all.
I don’t think I even completed that event.
next onyx
The event where you can carry and do team play I'm looking forward to.
But we'll see if dice does the smart thing and enable persistent servers.
wide shore
Least I can stare at all chat and laugh
remote kiln
mild crystal
Balls
wide shore
I'm gonna get called a cheater first day probably. <:CursedCat:86969486675240555...
Definitely.
next onyx
@wide shore My friends and I bullied a dude and other assholes in the game earlier so much.
They were bagging us and all that but we weren't even playing the game serious.
It all started because I chose to play like a normal person with the scar because I was sick of some dude using the vector on me.
plain hare
Man the F35 having vtol is kind of a bad decision
Really makes dogfights last longer than they should be
remote kiln
its the entire design point about the f35..
wide shore
<@333368629146025984> My friends and I bullied a dude and other assholes in the ...
Sounds like a great time
next onyx
Oh yeah.
plain hare
its the entire design point about the f35..
You mean in-game or real life?
remote kiln
real life
edgy oriole
fun tip: when your hit reg messes up mid game for no reason. switch to zain and use sph explosive.
next onyx
It was a great time abusing the shitters who had to try their hardest.
plain hare
Well then they should've gave us the F35A or F35C instead of the F35B
remote kiln
the f35a has vtol..
plain hare
It doesn't lol
plain hare
F35A is conventional take off, F35B is short take off vertical landing and F35C is carrier take off and landing
next onyx
Its a 2042 f35. Could be anything.
plain hare
Its a 2042 f35. Could be anything.
Yeah so why not design it to be ya know, intuitive for gameplay?
last swift
Could be a F35 Cursed Cat
remote kiln
if the f35 doesnt have vtol, then theres no point it being in the game
next onyx
Eh it's a fighter jer for the u.s I'm not gonna question much further.
remote kiln
its fine
plain hare
Not really, sitting duck maneuver that makes dogfights awkward isn't really good design in my opinion
plain hare
if the f35 doesnt have vtol, then theres no point it being in the game
Why not?
remote kiln
because its why people pick it lol
its easy to account for anyways, just literally afterburner rotate it
the vtol takes that long you can do an entire rotation around it
plain hare
Not saying it's good, saying it's awkward. Plus it's the only jet for the US team as of now so we have no choice but to pick it
remote kiln
not as of now
its been the only jet, for the past 3 modern games
its kind of the point of the jet's existence
plain hare
its kind of the point of the jet's existence
Not really, it's a 5th gen fighter that's multi-role
Only reason the F35B exists is to land on small naval ships
remote kiln
stop bringing in real life
its why people pick the jet in the game
remove the vtol, and you remove the F35
plain hare
You brought in real life lol
remote kiln
yeah cause my guy, the development team simulate their vehicle design on real life models
plain hare
What relevancy does that have to game design though? Unless you're making a milsim of course
remote kiln
because they have symbolic significance to gameplay
it is an intentional design decision
plain hare
An ability for a vehicle that makes it pretty much a sitting duck for everyone else, and then makes it prolong dogfights needlessly
Sounds like bad design to me
remote kiln
or it sounds like youre just not using it that well lol
plain hare
It's just more practical to strafe things normally
remote kiln
ive got a bridge to sell you if the term bad design, brings up a VTOL
plain hare
I'm sorry?
vertical take off landing
I just think it's kind of pointless in 2042 for the F35 and makes dogfights more-so needlessly prolonged
But it's just my opinion
copper ice
wildcat annihilates everything
arctic grove
It’s probably best just to remove the vtol function since I can’t really see it having much of a purpose in gameplay. I think it’s cool they added it and it’s obviously one of the unique things about the plane but meh
As an F35 worshipper
plain hare
Here's the thing, you're better off just strafing everything normally tbh
plain hare
It’s probably best just to remove the vtol function since I can’t really see it ...
I agree with that sentiment
fervent rose
wildcat annihilates everything
except for any air asset that can do this 1 crazy trick: being above the wildcat
plain hare
except for any air asset that can do this 1 crazy trick: being above the wildcat
All the wild cat user has to do is press W/Forward on the control stick
plain hare
Shoot em out of the sky
Or don't be a sitting duck
Wildcat's pretty dang good if the driver is any good
arctic grove
IIRC BF4s F35 doesn’t have vtol either so dogfights are all about speed control and turn fighting there, I’d see the f35 vtol being more useful if Russia used the SU75 in game but I don’t blame them for not modeling it since it probably wasn’t even revealed when the game was getting modeling done
next onyx
It did have one in bf4 funny enough.
safe bramble
IIRC BF4s F35 doesn’t have vtol either so dogfights are all about speed control ...
BF4 does have vtol, but you cannot activate it midair
next onyx
It's mostly useless anyways.
safe bramble
vtol midair is just a sore loser mechanic for shit dogfighters
arctic grove
Did it? I could’ve swore I saw a video of it but I passed it off as fake for some weird reason
next onyx
Just needed to slow your jet to a stall.
safe bramble
but BF4 also has good jets that don't require abusing vtol
arctic grove
It's mostly useless anyways.
Which pains me, I’d love it to be more useful tbh
next onyx
Honestly if it activated quicker and the guns weren't bad it'd be good for farming.
Do damage, run, repeat.
safe bramble
jets having the most dogshit controls also plays a large factor
next onyx
Now I sleep. Head is quiet.
safe bramble
you cannot reliably shoot helis at 800m with THAT level of control