battlefield-2042

[radiant prism]

I mean I kinda knew that

But

I need to not try to debate drunk

[carmine rover]

meow

[edgy oriole]

when all chat drops

im gonna

snitch on my team

[acoustic seal]

opt-in 🛌

[arctic grove]

Dice MK12 when?

[carmine rover]

im going to pull up like “gooey bonbon is on the 2nd floor of A1 walking down the hallway heading toward the staircase” in all chat

[edgy oriole]

imma pull out like. "hey there is a tank on southern hill with 2 irish and this is exactly where the trophy system is"

[arctic grove]

#letvaultweaponshavemoreattatchments

I wanna turn the m16 into the mk12 that thing gets some killer range

[carmine rover]

im going to pull up like “casper is camping in a bush next to the red container crate northwest of C2”

we all do 🥹

[arctic grove]

That too

[edgy oriole]

i also want that

[arctic grove]

More attachments and more attachments pls

[carmine rover]

i have m1911 tier 1 and im just daydreaming what the tier 1 skin would look like

🥺🥺

[magic bloom]

DONT DO ME LIKE THIS

NO

[wide shore]

I just want my baby.

[magic bloom]

Simp

[wide shore]

Damn rite

[arctic grove]

That m16 would be good if it didn’t fucking have a lack of attachments

[dapper river]

aek is better

[arctic grove]

Not at ranged

[carmine rover]

the m416 is the best vault weapon

[wide shore]

AEK can’t even hyperburst

[magic bloom]

FAL trumps all

[arctic grove]

The m16 will fick your shit up

[carmine rover]

and the m60 is second best

after nerf too

[wide shore]

PP2000 is cracked

[arctic grove]

I think m16 is pretty good for being a vault weapon

[dapper river]

not even the AN can, even though it should still be able to on full-auto, no game ever gets that feature correct

[arctic grove]

I mean it irl

[wide shore]

Who uses the AN full auto anyway?

[carmine rover]

i am!!

;D

[wide shore]

Burst or nothing baby

[magic bloom]

Your so odd

[wide shore]

How?

[magic bloom]

Using burst

[dapper river]

*yuore

[wide shore]

It has such a quick burst and almost no recoil. It’s a Beamer

It’s not good as a full auto weapon.

[magic bloom]

Youevfiebriere’re*

AN94’s are overly complex

[acoustic seal]

you'm'st've

[arctic grove]

ak74 > an 94

[magic bloom]

They rival the Germans in over engineering

[carmine rover]

i hate angel so much. angel is such a useless operator. delete angel out the game. or atleast bring back his armor throwing thingy majig from launch please. i hate angel. angel sucks

[arctic grove]

Aint there only like 15 of those an 94s irl

[wide shore]

It has a 1600 RPM burst. It’s crazy. (Not sure if that’s the case in the game)

[magic bloom]

Someone’s angry

[carmine rover]

I have angel tier 1. and im saying this.

[acoustic seal]

angel got turbo fucked by being put in medic, his main use was self resupplying rockets

[carmine rover]

hes literally useless. his passive is probably the worst in the game

[wide shore]

Angel is fine. But Falck is the best support for ammo box and healing pistol.

[carmine rover]

pls bring this back

[wide shore]

Falck has basically become my main

Angel was my first T1 specialist. But I haven’t used him since.

[carmine rover]

Best operators in the game goes from..

Dozer
Mackay
Falck

[wide shore]

Because assault class gets bonus ammo for ARs

[carmine rover]

[magic bloom]

Canadian spider man

[wide shore]

For me: Falck, Zain, Lis

[carmine rover]

Zain is so hard to drop when you use him for more than two games

his passive is literally so reliable

[soft dagger]

Rockets and armor plates for the team in HZ

[wide shore]

And he can have the med pen too.

And you can rock the airburst and SPH. he’s unreal

[acoustic seal]

hazard zone has enough players to fill matches?

[wide shore]

He is nuts

Play a round of rush XL with him and just spam his airburst.

[carmine rover]

i only need to tier 1 4 operators left.

Sundance, Irish, Lis and Crawford..

[magic bloom]

I don’t find much use in Zain

[carmine rover]

the hardest ones

🥹

[soft dagger]

4-5 full lobbies usually at the evening

[wary portal]

zain's greneade launcher not powerfull enough

[wide shore]

I mean what use is any of the assault specialists? They kill the enemy team and flank. Zain is perfect for that

[acoustic seal]

aim at cover, right click, aim above cover and left click until empty

[wide shore]

Oh it absolutely is

[magic bloom]

I meant his passive sorry

[acoustic seal]

reread the manual if you're getting any less than 3 kills per airburst mag

[arctic grove]

You know what I think

[wary portal]

how tha fuck? i only aim at enemy players.

[wide shore]

Oh, it’s like a med pen after you kill somebody. I think it’s super useful. Will save your ass if you’re up against more than one person.

[carmine rover]

the airburst is so busted. i was getting more kills with his airburst than my primary when i was playing tdm

[arctic grove]

I think if you lis mortar rocket people as a mortar youre a bitch

[magic bloom]

You gotta aim infront of them

[carmine rover]

i would drop like 30-40 kills a match and 2/3rds of it was airburst

in tdm

[soft dagger]

[wide shore]

You have to mark the distance first. It’s air burst. If they’re behind cover, point at the cover and hit the button it says on the screen to toggle range. Then fire above the cover.

I revel in it.

[magic bloom]

I’m an avid airburst user til I get him T1

[wide shore]

I like making popcorn

[carmine rover]

@magic bloom meow

[magic bloom]

?

[carmine rover]

meow

[wide shore]

It’s a type of explosive that explodes in the air.

[magic bloom]

I also like Making popcorn what’s your favorite kind

[edgy oriole]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1030804887837089802/1081727418936610867/Ricci_Judo.gif

[green forge]

Anybody know a fix/reason as to why for the past week I've been unable to connect to online? Same error code every time 15:1305P:1302P:1300P:1301P:-7A. I've reset the modem, I've reinstalled the game. I'm quite lost at this point.

[magic bloom]

It’s like cooking a grenade and it detonating mid air but instead it’s detonated by distance rather than a fuze

There were airburst AA called Flak guns

[wide shore]

There used to be these Orville Redenbacher‘s popcorn where the bag turned into a bowl, and they gave you a bag of movie theater butter you could pour on. Oml they were so god damn good.

[arctic grove]

Like can we just get a freaking gun builder in bf2042 idk why they don’t do it like there’s so many guns you could create why can’t I take the m16 add a bipod a longer ranged scope to it and make an mk12?

[green forge]

Don't know. lol

[carmine rover]

meow

petition to remove hind from game. who signing

[magic bloom]

I think they have that here

[green forge]

I mean, I wouldn't see a reason why they'd be closed, I haven't messed with them, and I have no issues with other games online.

[wide shore]

I haven’t been able to find it in a long time. Every store I check doesn’t have it.

[magic bloom]

I’m sorry for you

[arctic grove]

I don’t want the rpk 74 I want the ak 74

And I know it was in battle field 4

[carmine rover]

i want the spas 12

its so terrible though in portal

if they do make it a vault weapon they need to buff it

it has like zero damage

[torpid wadi]

I don’t believe the ak 74 was in 4

[jade barn]

guys whats the point of the dm7 when the svk exists?

[torpid wadi]

The only traditional style ak in bf4 was the rpk to my knowledge

[green forge]

PC, Unable to load persistance data.

[carmine rover]

it shoots faster and can hold more bullets

svk do more damage and can shoot further

exactly what im saying …

u copied my whole flow. bar for bar., word for word

drop and give me 5 meows private

[wide shore]

It was in BF3 actually

AK74M

[green forge]

One step I haven't tried is turning off crossplay, simply because I can't even get to the menu. It just immediately starts trying to connect and gets stuck on that screen.

[carmine rover]

meow

[green forge]

Yeah, ever since the last update. Haven't heard of a fix or even seen them comment on it.

Oh well, it'll get fixed eventually lol.

I play on a separate mobile hotspot cause I live in BFE where cable internet does not exist >.<

Though it's the first time I've ever had this issue.

[limpid pond]

Okay are we gonna address the elephant in the room

I swear grenades explode way faster than they should when near you

Like I can watch someone chuck a nade over me and land 30 feet from me yet take 20 seconds to blow up(exaggerated)

But if one lands near me it blows up in .4 seconds

[acoustic seal]

grenades decide you're dead way before they blow up

and sundance nade has a proximity fuse

[limpid pond]

Yeah and the amount of times I have names land directly next to me is wild

[eager spire]

sounds like a skill issue, i donno

[limpid pond]

Like shits bounces off 10 walls and explodes next to me

[acoustic seal]

grenades absolutely have some kind of magnetism

[limpid pond]

Yeah easily

[acoustic seal]

there's no way lvl 10 xbox shitters are hitting the most insane grenade throws of their life every life

[limpid pond]

I swear people hit me with names that don't make sense

I agree

I throw a nade and get a hit marker yet someone throws its at me and it land 20 feet from me and kills me

[arctic grove]

wait till you get beamed mid ranged by a xbox user with the k30

[limpid pond]

Imma start clipping the grenades I die to. I died to one yesterday that made me shut it off

[limpid pond]

Eh k30 doesn't do that

[arctic grove]

I swear

[limpid pond]

K30 is ass unless you burst it

[eager spire]

there are. DICE doesn't seem to think so, though.

[arctic grove]

ive been bursted down

at mid range

by that k30

[limpid pond]

Yeah bursting makes sense

It had terrible bloom

Has*

You shoot more than 20 bullets past 30m and you're hitting like 2 out of 50 bullets unless your burst

Shits no where near as good as the ars

[wary portal]

hard to snipe enemies in this game.

[carmine rover]

hiii lycan

meow

[eager spire]

hi

[limpid pond]

K30 is pretty shit now.

[carmine rover]

hows you :3

[limpid pond]

P90 is still solid

[eager spire]

i'm ok

[limpid pond]

Best smg is pp29 second has fo be the pbx

[carmine rover]

awh good to hear :3

[limpid pond]

I would say after the pbx it's the pp2000

Yeah it's whatever

[arctic grove]

I turned the sig spear into a MM rifle

its nice

[limpid pond]

Only gun I'm not happy about is the rm68

Gun is way to good

[arctic grove]

I liked the AEK

I think its horrible though at midrange

[limpid pond]

Everyone has it now so it's pretty annoying running into the casual shitter who uses nothing but meta then think their good

Pissed on some people last night with the mp9 gums pretty mid

[arctic grove]

Hows the sig spear rank?

[limpid pond]

What's that

[arctic grove]

the m5

[limpid pond]

M5 is pretty good I'd say the 3rd best ar

[acoustic seal]

very good, shoots fast and is accurate at every range like it's supposed to be

[limpid pond]

Yeah m5 is pretty good

[acoustic seal]

i think it gets short barrel too?

[limpid pond]

Yep

With close combat rounds

To a degree distance the ak win

Cqb to medium the m5 beats it in ttk

[arctic grove]

No more BS

It makes me so mad actually when I get lis rocketed out of no where

Also i dont want this game to go the route of CoD where the add gimmick weapons

I aint playing with no crossbow

you see

I think its such piss poor game design to allow people to call in tanks ontop of roofs and place down a trophy system where no one can fuckin get em

[limpid pond]

Doesn't matter. M5 has a 267 ttk
Ak has a 356ttk

Well 289 cqb

[arctic grove]

no lie when i see the condor I think of terminator

[limpid pond]

Okay my bad. Ak24 has a ttk of 267 up to 10 m

But the m5 even past 20m still has a 267 ttk

So the m5 is better

[wary portal]

is there only good vault weapons besides the 416?

[arctic grove]

I like the m16

I think the m16 is an absolute monster at range

[limpid pond]

Ebr if you're good at aiming

[arctic grove]

I like the dragonov better than the ebr

no offense

[limpid pond]

Ebr is a 2 shot up to 40 m

It's ttk is like 222

[arctic grove]

Hi

[torpid wadi]

Howdy

[copper ice]

you're right

[dapper river]

That's because the people who pilot it are bots and get shot down in 5 seconds or crash (only on my team, though)

[arctic grove]

No look up the HK arieal

aerial*

[sharp barn]

Bro bro

Hey hey ****

Lol

[dapper river]

Yes I know what HKs are, I was having a giggle

[arctic grove]

I’m forcing myself to use shotguns

[upbeat sand]

MSC slug rounds

no 12m auto

[sour meadow]

I really wanna use the brawler a lot more

but my gunners are stupid af

[sullen mulch]

if only this game had a theatre mode

had the craziest clip

[sour meadow]

5 people throwing C5 on the brawler while my gunners are shooting a helicopter across the map

[upbeat sand]

I remember when everyone did that with the LATV default mg

At launch

Very big 4 damage

Worth it

You can get out and disable C5 by interacting with it if it's stuck on the tank and the detonator is killed

[jade stratus]

this was a problem even in 4 and it was annoying

you’d only find competent gunners in clans together with repairmen and everything

[sullen mulch]

It's amazing how trash players are in tdm

Camping like like it's conquest

Only when it's 32 v 32 imo

[acoustic seal]

tdm layouts are dookie

very icky gross

[upbeat sand]

Sometimes it feels like I'm the only one who repairs

Everyone just uses the recoiless to hit infantry instead of tanks

[edgy oriole]

i lay prone on a tank to heal it

its fun

but for just repairing out in the open. tanks love to just keep driving away from people trying to heal it. so i give it a good 1 maybe 2 tries if im feeling generous before i never try to heal them again

[upbeat sand]

Corrosive ak24 skin has a X4 sight looking different

[mortal socket]

Does kda matter in bf?

[upbeat sand]

KDA is meh

Revives, resupplys, repairs and point capturing is where its at

[mortal socket]

I got a team-mate quoting my 68 - 54

He thinks this is cod

[acoustic seal]

if you're above 1kd 1kpm you're already doing significantly better than most people who play

just don't be a net ticket drain and it doesn't matter

[mortal socket]

54 dead by trying to put the bomb on rush

4 times I planted the bomb

[acoustic seal]

rush plants are good, cq/bt point captures are eh since any idiot can stand on the flag

[mortal socket]

The am40 is so good

[acoustic seal]

it is good, it just has weird horizontal recoil at times

[mortal socket]

We can solve that with an accessory

[upbeat sand]

I got a double kill with the emp grenade

Smooth

[safe bramble]

is everyone ready for the massive shit talking that will surely ensue

i can guarantee lis/tor users will be the most frequent

maybe transport

[copper ice]

helis will get shittalked more than anything

[eager spire]

i mean if someone is playing Lis or Transport heli then they deserve all the shit talking they'll recieve

[copper ice]

then tor, then normal tanks camping, any other vehicles camping, then lis, then normal vehicles

[upbeat sand]

Nah don't listen to him

If u do good for the team u did good

[upbeat sand]

U definitely did good

[copper ice]

lis doesn't deserve the shittalking because she has no alternative

[arctic grove]

Anyone know and uses any good gameplay techniques?

[copper ice]

if you're picking boris you're actively crippling yourself, if you're picking crawford you're doing it solely for the m5

[eager spire]

but she does deserve it because she shouldn't have been put in the game in the first place

[upbeat sand]

I've taken down some wildcats solo thanks to my turret doing micro in between reloads and stopping them from repairing

[copper ice]

you can just not use a vehicle to avoid lis

if you want to fight a vehicle your options are severely limited

[upbeat sand]

And killed low ho tanks with crawford's turret

[arctic grove]

Anyone know any gameplay techniques?

[upbeat sand]

Do not die

[arctic grove]

How do you guys go about playing the game

like what do you do

Tank? Or what

[eager spire]

right but that doesn't justify Lis's existence considering her entire concept is fundamentally flawed and stupid from a gameplay perspective

[upbeat sand]

Not dying

[eager spire]

I don't.

[copper ice]

if i stand in front of a boris turret for 20 seconds i will die; this doesnt make the turret useful, it means i am an idiot

same goes for crawford

[upbeat sand]

Well dats why u have the jav and m5

[copper ice]

a full crawford overheat is like under 25 damage to a tank

and it takes over 5 seconds of sustained fire

these are generous numbers im pretty sure theyre worse in-game

and they're still bad

crawford turret is the easiest thing to shoot in the world and it dies in a single shot from any cannon along with whoever is using it

[safe bramble]

repairing????

[copper ice]

boris turret literally does nothing but interrupt repair, has short range, and dies when someone sneezes on it

[safe bramble]

also this is bs lmao, lis is not only anti vehicle

i can't count how many times lis players bragged about tving a sniper

[copper ice]

Crawfords passive shouldn't even exist

[safe bramble]

lis shouldn't exist either

[eager spire]

A lot of things in this game shouldn't exist.

[copper ice]

repairbot is already OP without having a passive designed to make you worth 2 of them

[safe bramble]

when i tank with a buddy we still have trouble outrepping half the fucking damage in this game

not even including the grossest shit, hacking and emp grenades

[copper ice]

ok yeah if you're a shit sniper and someone is picking lis to specifically anti-sniper you you're in trouble but this applies to literally no one in this entire server

[upbeat sand]

Crawford is who I switch too when my team's vehicles are having a rough time

[eager spire]

if you're sniping in 2042 you're effectively wasting your time

[copper ice]

i was in a wildcat and 2 random lis repaired me against 5+ enemy lis

[edgy oriole]

lis rocket so easy to counter. you see it flying towards you just switch to burst glock and shoot it

[copper ice]

the repairing in this game is insanely OP

[safe bramble]

i would rather have a specialist that is 2 repairs in one, because repairing is still counterable by shoooting the dumbass

lis, is quite literally

the grossest concept ever in a game

actually no, that goes to the tor tank

[copper ice]

yeah just shoot the guy repairing the vehicle you're trying to kill whos behind the vehicle

[safe bramble]

but lis is pretty close

[eager spire]

"Hey, what if we took this thing that historically only vehicles had access to, and gave it to an infantry character?"

[copper ice]

[safe bramble]

AND refuse to give it to vehicles

[copper ice]

i agree conceptually she's fucking awful

[safe bramble]

and wonder why everyone abuses transports

[eager spire]

Like, I wanna know who was responsible for the concept of Lis.

I wanna ask 'em why.

[copper ice]

but everything in this game is so awful that it kind of balances out for me

[eager spire]

everything being awful doesn't justify things, though.

[copper ice]

when every single vehicle is agony, a single spec being agony for vehicles is a feather on the scale

[safe bramble]

if ripple effect actually made the attack helis actual attack helis maybe people wouldn't abuse the fucking transports so much

[eager spire]

It's just a bunch of bad ideas. It's still not justified.

[copper ice]

no they'd just abuse both of them

[safe bramble]

little bird is simply bad hitbox abuse vehicle, stealth heli is conceptually gross, apache is underpowered as fuck

[copper ice]

true, which is why i stopped playing

[arctic grove]

Yeah now that I think about it, no such tv missile function exists for the helis rn.

But it really is funny how DICE adds in things that don’t even work for the vehicle they’re implemented on, but could revolutionize something already in the game. Like the Brawlers team spawn even when full, which is way more in-line with the MAV? Or the RAMs trophy system……goodlawd

On the plus side, tanks have aps now. But the point in general stands

[eager spire]

yeah and how long did it take for DICE to add that?

[copper ice]

give the bolte the spawn system so it isnt a joke pick

[safe bramble]

ever since tank aps everyone just abuses emp grenades and rao lmao

aps simply prevented half of the gross shit in the game

and everyone moved to abusing the other half

[eager spire]

Rao is also stupid.

[safe bramble]

legit

[copper ice]

remove ram beacon so it doesnt wildly outclass the wildcat apart from when drastically OP helis exist and the wildcat is the only thing that even puts a dent in them

[safe bramble]

after lis got rightfully fucked in that one patch, i can't COUNT how many times my heli got hacked in a game

[eager spire]

"Ah yes, let's design a character that can disable vehicles and fuck up the screens of infantry players by just LOOKING AT THEM."

[safe bramble]

i would enter a point, and get hacked from 4 seperate dudes immediately

[safe bramble]

AND you have no indication of who did it

[copper ice]

rao and emp nades are both stupid yeah

[safe bramble]

the indicator isn't even correct 90% of the time

[arctic grove]

why Rao deserves nothing

[copper ice]

everything in the game is designed for vehicles to camp and get royally fucked when pushing

[safe bramble]

2042 encourages rushing with c5 like a dumbass

with the amount of gross mechanics like emps

atleast in bf4, i could see the c4 jeep coming

i can't predict some motherfucker crouching around a corner and insta disabling me for 7 seconds

[eager spire]

List of things that shouldn't exist:
-Lis
-Rao
-TOR Tank
-Irish APS
-Transport Helis
-Stealth Mode on Stealth Helis
-Sundance

[arctic grove]

If your tank got C4d in BF4 you definitely did something wrong to deserve it. In 2042 it’s fuckin easy to glide across the whole map as Sundance in seconds behind a tank

[safe bramble]

most based guy i met in this discord tbh

valid opinions

[eager spire]

this list is not comprehensive. feel free to add things.

[copper ice]

sundance glider if they have access to beacon or c5

[safe bramble]

how about stealth heli

atleast its stealth mode

that's a definite addition

[copper ice]

flares

[eager spire]

Why should flares not exist?

[copper ice]

makes helis borderline immortal in their current rendition

[safe bramble]

that's a 2042 issue not a flares issue

also

[copper ice]

dice has refused to nerf them for so long i would rather they not exist

[eager spire]

i feel like that's more because AA in this game is dogshit

[safe bramble]

helis are so fucking strong because they shit all over SOFLAM in its entirety

soflam put vehicle whores in check in bf4

then they NERFED THAT SHIT LIKE WHAT

[copper ice]

lock on launchers cant do shit when flares exist regardless of how much you buff them

buffing the aa in this game means lis and 30mm wildcat practically speaking

and no one wants a lis buff

[safe bramble]

aa is fine conceptually

other than i think AA should have faster turn speed

[royal swan]

Shit we lost jordy, a battlefield content creator.

[eager spire]

We already had a Lis buff. Everyone saw how that played.

[safe bramble]

infact, all ground vehicles need better turn speed

if not exactly how bf4 handled it

[safe bramble]

i legit had videos of me getting 5 tvs at once

[arctic grove]

I feel like flares having cooldown increased is gonna do no good except drastically reduce their combat time. I mean it’s already not that long before something locks onto you as soon as the enemy team realizes you’re there and an actual threat

[next onyx]

Didn't even know the guy but already I feel terrible due to how young he died.

[eager spire]

List of things that shouldn't exist:
-Lis
-Rao
-TOR Tank
-Irish APS
-Transport Helis
-Stealth Mode on Stealth Helis
-Sundance
-Flares

[safe bramble]

after i shit on some loser sundance or mackay player

[copper ice]

they dont need increased cooldown they need decreased duration

[royal swan]

That's what 3 important people from the battlefield community gone in just 2 years

[copper ice]

flares breaking one lock is one thing, but they last for 5+ seconds

[safe bramble]

yea not sure why 2042 made flares last as long as ECM

[next onyx]

Oh yeah levi the bf3 TV missile is a dedicated weapon.

[edgy oriole]

flares last too long and the recharge is too quick.

[safe bramble]

irish aps needs to not exist

[next onyx]

Versus what it was like on older games.

[copper ice]

when a heli shows up you have to lock on to it, fire, watch it flare, wait for flare to end, lock on, fire

[eager spire]

Saw some guy in the Gundam Evo community talking shit on Jordy after hearing he died. Man ended up getting kicked out of his team and possibly banned from tournament play.

[safe bramble]

counterpoint: soflam needs to be fixed and javelin needs faster projectile speed

[edgy oriole]

me and echo used to eat boys up with me repairing and him flying.

[royal swan]

I think it stays but gets a nerf

[safe bramble]

that's a solid counter

[arctic grove]

Yeah flare time needing to be reduced is fair, although in general I think the recharge is warranted again considering how many things exist that lock onto stuff

[royal swan]

Fucking disgusting

[eager spire]

yeah, cringe behavior

[copper ice]

this is barely practical as is but it gives heli an insane amount of uptime where they're functionally immortal to lock on

[safe bramble]

90% of vehicle whore problems can be solved by buffing soflam

[next onyx]

Aps should be less relied upon in the first place.
Centre the game around it better.

[edgy oriole]

flare with their own repair ability (idk if you can use both anymore i have hopped in a helo in awhile) you get out of a fight for maybe 10 seconds and then you have both abilities back

[copper ice]

yeah you get flares and repair

[safe bramble]

only some vehicles have flares and repair

[eager spire]

Irish APS was designed for a game where tanks don't have APS.

[royal swan]

Make it where you can only place one aps and one shield

[safe bramble]

like the apache

stealth does not

[royal swan]

And make the aps lose some health after each destroy nade

[copper ice]

Irish aps was designed poorly

[eager spire]

Much like so many other things in this game, hence the list.

[copper ice]

with emp breaking it now it just needs to not block rockets

then its relatively fine

[royal swan]

Did bf4 aps block rockets

[next onyx]

Make it so that the rocket launcher can't be deflected by aps and take away its ludicrous splash.

[copper ice]

& making it give feedback when it eats your shots

[edgy oriole]

irish aps isnt an issue imo. its only an issue for people when teamwork is in effect.

[copper ice]

it's an issue because you can solo tank in the open with aps

[royal swan]

For now just play Casper and emp blow up the aps with the drone

[eager spire]

the issue is he has two of them and people can camp the fuck out of areas with tanks.

[safe bramble]

• tor users that place irish aps infront of them while camping in spawn

[copper ice]

its not practical to have to shoot two aps to get a single rocket off on a tank when it hits the repair button and the driver hops out to place two more aps

[copper ice]

if i do this i cant hurt the tank because casper doesnt get launchers

[edgy oriole]

there is multiple counters to aps tho. mackay, sundance snipers. 2 people.

[copper ice]

how the fuck is mackay an aps counter

[arctic grove]

Funny enough idk why DICE doesn’t make it so you can only do 1 APS 1 shield, or 2 shield lol

[edgy oriole]

its just teamwork

[safe bramble]

not if they camp in spawn

[copper ice]

what are you talking about

[safe bramble]

those automatically because a no option

[arctic grove]

Like that level of attention is minuscule and would help so much

[royal swan]

But you can emp the tank and destroy the equipment faster than Irish can place two more aps

[copper ice]

because that would make too much sense

[royal swan]

You will probably save your team like a good couple minutes

[copper ice]

emping the tank doesnt mean he cant just place more of them

[royal swan]

And annoy the fuck out of the tanker

[arctic grove]

It was the same issue with 2 transports just being used for 2 superhind or condor, when it was obviously intended to be 1 mav 1 air transport

[copper ice]

dice moments

[eager spire]

1. expecting team work out of random people in public lobbies
2. tanks have APS now, irish does not need two of them

[copper ice]

why take good measures from previous games when you can just make it worse instead

[edgy oriole]

teamwork happens more than people think. imo

[eager spire]

that's your opinion.

[copper ice]

my general rule of thumb is if it doesn't require teamwork to use it shouldnt require teamwork to counter

[royal swan]

It was just a comment to say that the emp has faster recharge, I remember the stupid argument about Casper you had

[edgy oriole]

like lis being an issue

[eager spire]

It's not reasonable to expect teamwork from public lobbies. That's a fact of the matter.

[edgy oriole]

its only an issue when there is a team of lis

[eager spire]

You just cannot.

[copper ice]

being irish doesnt require teamwork, why should countering irish require teamwork

[edgy oriole]

you can solo irish easy

[copper ice]

yeah just solo the aps tank man

[edgy oriole]

he quick peaks his shield. shoot him in the head. you notice he has aps. shoot it

[copper ice]

thats why no one ever complains about it

[arctic grove]

Wait, I’m pretty sure halo infinite is just as barebones as far as content goes but don’t quote me on that…. Recycled content isn’t the issue in 2042s seasons

it’s the lack of it

[edgy oriole]

like if its a linear situation where you dont know how to flank then yeah ig he is op. until you figure out. hey i dont have to face him head on

[copper ice]

im not talking about Irish on foot

Im talking about irish in a tank

[eager spire]

are you being like this on purpose or are you just not understanding the conversation

[edgy oriole]

ig i never had an issue bc i kill the aps. idk

maybe there is some small brain activity only happening in cq i dont know about.

[royal swan]

The aps ain't that hard to kill if you can see and shoot it

[eager spire]

what if you can't tho

[royal swan]

Only like a 1 second

[edgy oriole]

you can kill an aps always

[copper ice]

thats still a second that youre visible to the tank

[edgy oriole]

unless they cheat it into a rock or something

[copper ice]

while youre reloading the rocket they can get out and place another aps

[royal swan]

Well there's a chance the explosion can destroy it

But only a chance

[eager spire]

right, a chance.

[heavy heron]

In itself halo Infinite has not only added 1 single new weapon since its launch as a content update while godBattefiel adds 3 to 6 weapons per season

[copper ice]

behind a rock, under a slope, behind a barricade that irish also has

[eager spire]

i sure do love measures to counter things being reduced down to a CHANCE to work.

[edgy oriole]

flank or higher ground sniper. or a buddy tthats rao and sui runb it

[eager spire]

love that.

[royal swan]

Or just get casper

[edgy oriole]

its really not an issue

[copper ice]

half the portal weapons added have been shit and half the new weapons added have been OP or very annoying

[royal swan]

Get a Casper friend to handle the issue

[copper ice]

flanking camping tanks in BT is literally not possible

[eager spire]

Are you trying to convince your friend to play this.

[copper ice]

high ground is also frequently not possible

[eager spire]

because that's not good either.

You both should play better games.

[royal swan]

I'ma stop you on that.

It's possible

[copper ice]

adding a buddy goes into teamwork, which as i said earlier shouldnt need to be a thing to counter an irish that isnt needing to utilize teamwork

[heavy heron]

Yes, I don't want him to continue wasting his time playing that garbage from Halo Infinite

[copper ice]

breakaway iceberg

[eager spire]

So you want him to waste his time playing Battlefield 2042?

[copper ice]

the tanks are out of bounds for defenders in a good few maps

when i say literally i mean literally

[royal swan]

If you got a transport heli friend, it shouldn't be a problem

[copper ice]

if i had a buddy i would not be making them play anti tank role in 2042 either

[edgy oriole]

huh

[copper ice]

yeah if i just bust out the more overpowered vehicle to counter the standardly overpowered vehicle

[heavy heron]

Well if it is not the same to play sometimes that all the time he only played at launch for the 10 hour trial by gamepass but now that the complete game is available he does not want to go back

[royal swan]

It works it works

[eager spire]

i'm sorry, did you not see the part where they said they don't think teamwork should be needed to counter something that doesn't take teamwork to use.

[edgy oriole]

so it shouldnt take teamwork to counter a tank?

[copper ice]

i should cut the middleman and find a hacker friend to solve all my vehicle problems in one go

[royal swan]

And trust me the camping tank is balling and bitching about the transport heli being op. The karma bitch EAT IT

[edgy oriole]

then why did they get rid of drone c5

why did they nerf c5

[copper ice]

countering a tank is one thing

[eager spire]

because drone c5/c4 is a bullshit exploit that was patched out back in the fucking BF3 Beta.

[copper ice]

Countering an irish tank is a completely different ballgame

[edgy oriole]

this is what this is about right. an irish and a tank

bc irish by himself is easy to counter.

[copper ice]

yes its irish in relation to vehicles

[edgy oriole]

you add a vehicle in the mix you gonna need teamwork

[copper ice]

ok so what if the vehicle also has teamwork

[edgy oriole]

bc its not just irish at that point

its a person using a killing machine

[carmine rover]

can u tell them to give me 1 million bp coins :3

thanks!

[copper ice]

killing machines are also vulnerable

unless they have irish

[edgy oriole]

not to solo.

you need teamwork now

[copper ice]

a solo tank will still take damage if it sits on a hill and eats rockets

unless its irish

[gloomy latch]

is game down?

[copper ice]

do you see the issue

[edgy oriole]

no

i really dont

[copper ice]

may i suggest using your eyes

[royal swan]

The best way to counter a camping tank is to introduce something that counters the camping tank.

[edgy oriole]

i do. and teamwork to kill said vehicles

[carmine rover]

ignore the camping tank .. kill infantry :3

[edgy oriole]

its not my fault you cant do that and work with strats to kill vehicles

[carmine rover]

if its camping. why bother going after it :3

[copper ice]

i cant force my team to work with me man

[royal swan]

You can't remove camping tanks, it's a play style people use to boost their bullshit ego and kd

[edgy oriole]

then you cant kill a tank

[carmine rover]

let it camp. while u have the rest of the map to work with

[copper ice]

the average person doesnt want to play an unrewarding role

[copper ice]

you can if its not irish

[edgy oriole]

false

[copper ice]

you were literally arguing irish aps isnt an issue earlier in relation to tanks

[edgy oriole]

maybe a new tank driver that loves to drive face first into walls and get trapped on trees

[copper ice]

and now you're saying tanks are an issue

[eager spire]

well you could, but you'd end up with a Hardline situation where people complain that it's not battlefield.

[copper ice]

so what, irish makes them weaker?

[edgy oriole]

tanks arent an issue

my guy

you just cant solo a tank

you require teamwork

[carmine rover]

in hardline all it took was one smaw rocket to blow up anything. or two rpgs for a heavy vehicle . bring that back

[copper ice]

camping tanks is one thing, camping tanks with multiple easy to replace trophy systems is another

[edgy oriole]

if you want soloing tanks back msg dice to buff c5 back to what it was

[royal swan]

Which is why hardline is almost as forgotten as that free to play battlefield

[copper ice]

c5 already solos tanks im talking about launchers

[mortal socket]

The classic c5 with jeeps is the counter for camping tanks

[royal swan]

Almost

[eager spire]

which is annoying because Hardline was the most based BF game to exist.

[copper ice]

a tank eating rockets has to fuck off to repair at some point

[edgy oriole]

launchers cant solo tanks either

[copper ice]

irish removes the eating part

[carmine rover]

literally factual

[eager spire]

It dared to actually be fun.

[edgy oriole]

bc you require more launchers

which = teamwork

[copper ice]

or you find ammo

or redeploy for ammo

either way, the tank has to back off to repair

[eager spire]

but the BF community hates fun apparently.

[copper ice]

irish negates the need

[edgy oriole]

tanks gonna get repaired before all that

[royal swan]

Nerd the repair, and nerf aps.

[carmine rover]

in hardline. u see a camping CAT? grab a smaw. cat gone.

in hardline u see a heli chopper? grab a fhj . chopper gone.

[eager spire]

Like i said before. Irish APS was designed for a game where tanks didn't have APS. Tanks have APS now. Irish should not have APS anymore.

[copper ice]

hardline had the drastic measure of having vehicles actually die to anti-vehicle tools

[royal swan]

Oh and bring back harmful disabling

[copper ice]

irish aps is fine in relation to infantry

it just shouldnt protect tanks

there's no reason for it to block launchers

[royal swan]

The disabling that actually could mean death to the tank

[carmine rover]

not necessarily. in hardline u have to use anti vehicle stuff. to blow up the vehicle. or you would need to soak a LOT of your ammo into it

[copper ice]

(Its not fine but with 2042 explosive spam and emp countering it, its as close as it'll get)

[eager spire]

Vehicles take like..i donno, 3 grenade launcher hits to kill?

in Hardline?

[royal swan]

Actually bf2042 disabling is more like a fucking visual effect than anything

[carmine rover]

two for a sedan. three for an suv. 4 for a cat

[copper ice]

in 2042 you have to use anti-vehicle stuff just to scratch the paint

[carmine rover]

3 for a transport chopper. two for a rogue

[royal swan]

Remember when disabling actually stopped your movement until you fixed it

[eager spire]

I donno what it is with Hardline players btw but they'll literally sit in SUV's and CAT's in a 6v6 server.

[copper ice]

oh no my propeller is disabled my heli is 15% slower at turning for the next 7 seconds

[eager spire]

I don't understand those people. Who looks at a lowpop server and is like "I'm just gonna sit in the vehicle and barely play the game."

[carmine rover]

they care about their kd

[copper ice]

im so screwed bro

[royal swan]

Then you got bf1

SHIT MY FUCKING ENGINE IS DISABLED IM FUCKED

[eager spire]

they should care more about getting better at the fucking game

[copper ice]

same reason people dont push in rush when the round is about to end

average player is bad at game and doesnt like dying

[carmine rover]

bring back Hacker mode. trojan access into helping your team capture points faster.

bring back perk system. go on score streaks and u get rewarded

gps spotting and jamming

[sullen mulch]

Needs to be a operator whos skill is faster reload upon kill

[copper ice]

god i miss reinforcements so bad

[edgy oriole]

they shouldve def kept reinforcements in this game

[carmine rover]

operator mechanic and enforcer all have fast reload

[copper ice]

even if you dont like fortifications you gotta admit reinforcements were good concept

[eager spire]

I wanna know how many people here have Hardline on PC actually.

[copper ice]

especially how they could have been implemented into 2042

[carmine rover]

im like.. the biggest hardline nerd 😭

[copper ice]

but instead we got uhhhhhhh, ranger

[carmine rover]

i spent… 5000 hours on it 🥹

[royal swan]

Never even touched hardline

[eager spire]

got uhhhh fuckin robodog

[carmine rover]

and was number 1 in the world in sidearm kills 😤😤

big flex..

[royal swan]

Was 🫵

[copper ice]

robodog that spends 90% of it's time aiming at casper drone in the sky and missing all its shots

[carmine rover]

i still am:.

[sullen mulch]

yeah but I mean a dedicated skill similar to zains health replenish

[eager spire]

like i think it'd be fun to actually populate a Hardline server for a bit

[royal swan]

Zain should have equipment restrictions on the SPH

[copper ice]

good luck making them toss another operator in

[next onyx]

I was top 3 in Australia or worldwide? for battle rifle kills at one point.

[royal swan]

Like lis equipment restrictions on launchers

[eager spire]

List of things that shouldn't exist:
-Lis
-Rao
-TOR Tank
-Irish APS
-Transport Helis
-Stealth Mode on Stealth Helis
-Sundance
-Flares
-The SPH Launcher

Forgot the SPH launcher on the list

[copper ice]

sorry cant nerf assaults here, only lis

[carmine rover]

add Hind

[royal swan]

Flares?

[copper ice]

assault doesnt bother vehicles so its fine

[eager spire]

is the hind a transport vehicle?

[next onyx]

Sph needs a complete re tune.

[sullen mulch]

whats wrong with rao lol

[carmine rover]

impressive. but considering now everyone has like 100k+ kills on their BRs

[copper ice]

emp is fundamentally a horrible concept

[royal swan]

BRUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUH. SINCE WHEN FLARES BECOME A MAJOR ISSUE

[copper ice]

especially in a 128p game

[eager spire]

Ah yes, let's create a character that can disable vehicles and fuck up the screen of infantry players by LOOKING AT THEM.

[copper ice]

flares in 2042 have literally always been an issue

[royal swan]

That list is coo coo CRAZY

[carmine rover]

i had 80k sidearm kills and apparently that was good enough for number 1. 43k of that was my g17

[eager spire]

THIS CAN'T POSSIBLY BE A BAD IDEA AT ALL

[carmine rover]

also was top 10 in operator score

[copper ice]

the whole reason lis is so popular is because none of the lock on weapons work against aircraft because flares exist

[sullen mulch]

pretty GOOD disrupt mechanic especially when launchers do no damage

[copper ice]

aa launcher is fucking dogshit in this game

[royal swan]

Or, or the air vehicles have large health pools and it's like fighting a juggernaut

[carmine rover]

RF jammers would be a cool gadget to have in this game

or ziplines

[eager spire]

SPH needs a complete removal from the game since every assault rifle in the game has a grenade launcher attachment already that does nearly everything the SPH does except stick to people, and who gives a shit about that.

[copper ice]

i have played multiple rounds in stolen hinds where i didnt take a single hit from any lockon weapons because flares exist

the health pool doesnt matter if they cant hit me man

then i stopped dodging and just ate all the shots because the health pool was huge on top on flares existing

[royal swan]

I bet this guy is doing the circle strategy

[sullen mulch]

Also people still complaining about sundance is still funny given the infinite nerfs she has

[copper ice]

transport heli is enough to make me uninstall 2042

[next onyx]

You know as well as i they're not going to remove it.

[copper ice]

no reason it shouldnt be nerfed by now

[eager spire]

I am still going to advocate for it, regardless.

Because I don't give a fuck what they want.

[carmine rover]

to counter the explosive spam they should add survivalist into 2042 from hardline. you can instantly revive yourself one time without needing a medic to come and revive you

[copper ice]

horrendously overpowered

everyone should have dozer passive by default

[carmine rover]

and survivalist also works on getting roadkilled

[sullen mulch]

THE ONLY THING NEEDING REMOVAL IS THE CHAMBER ANIMATION EVERY TIME YOU SPAWN

[copper ice]

i feel it man

[royal swan]

I do recall creating a great rebalancing of the transport heli with out removing it

[next onyx]

It was years ago so yeah.

[royal swan]

Being original

[eager spire]

List of things that shouldn't exist:
-Lis
-Rao
-TOR Tank
-Irish APS
-Transport Helis
-Stealth Mode on Stealth Helis
-Sundance
-Flares
-SPH Launcher
-Chambering animation on spawn

[copper ice]

this has gotten me killed a ton it's really annoying

[sullen mulch]

exactly

[copper ice]

this is surprisingly enough, easier said than done

[carmine rover]

good idea? no?

[next onyx]

I have an idea too but I don't care now.

[next onyx]

HEROIN.

[sullen mulch]

I honestly forgot there was a stealth heli. I only play breakthrough though

[carmine rover]

me and my friends called it pfizer 😭

holup im bout to pop a pfizer

[next onyx]

Because of my friend I end up calling the med pens and syringe shots heroin.

[copper ice]

If you've only done it twice then it's not a good counter!

[next onyx]

It's concerning that when I ask for meds in voice chat and say that they know what I mean.

[carmine rover]

hey way can i send u a funny hardline meme

[next onyx]

Med pens unironically my favourite gadget tho.

Sure dm.

[carmine rover]

oki

[eager spire]

Hardline should've had med pens, really did lack a quick healing option for infantry.

[topaz field]

i dislike breakaway TDM area on the oil rig too many campers on top

[copper ice]

idk why they make healing so slow when spawn beacons exist

[topaz field]

i believe hardliens did

[copper ice]

its faster to redeploy than heal half the time

[eager spire]

not for yourself, no.

[copper ice]

bfv being the crowning example of that

[royal swan]

Sounds like we need to nerf the respawn time

[carmine rover]

fast healing existed

[copper ice]

literally made my palms start sweating

[carmine rover]

but only if your teammates were operators. and had that perk

[eager spire]

yeah but iirc wasn't that a perk

[next onyx]

You didn't really need Med pens in that game.

[eager spire]

yeah

[sullen mulch]

Bring back the BF1 Whistle

[eager spire]

you didn't have that option for yourself

[copper fulcrum]

You also don't really need med-pens in this game to be fair

[carmine rover]

also there were med packs on the walls around the map

that were super super super helpful

[next onyx]

The lookers.

Lockers

[carmine rover]

and ammo lockers

yes!

that were super helpful

[copper fulcrum]

The Lookers is a great name for a UK Rock Band

[next onyx]

Nvm the AED's on the walls.

[carmine rover]

sabotages….

[eager spire]

ah yes, you don't need quick healing in the game where you can get hit by AR's from over 100 meters away.

[carmine rover]

youre going to give me ptsd way

[eager spire]

:I

[copper ice]

idk about that, it's pretty slow

[carmine rover]

i used to get so scared opening doors

[copper fulcrum]

I rarely use the Med-Pen and I do well by myself, so idk what y'all are on

[sullen mulch]

it was just for immersion lol

[next onyx]

You know they should of made it that if you had an empty gadget slot the defibs would be added to your inventory.

[copper ice]

not needing it doesnt make it not a nice thing to have

[next onyx]

So you'd be an enforcer running around with defibs on hand.

[copper ice]

i spent 90% of my time in bfv on 30 health with no bandage

[carmine rover]

thatll be kind of busted..

[copper fulcrum]

Yeah but you have full health regen in 2042, in V you don't

[carmine rover]

99% of the time enforcers ran shield and ammo

[copper ice]

it still takes ages to regen

[carmine rover]

1% ran ammo and breaching charge

[next onyx]

Then you run no shield and pick up the the AED's and that's your gadget 2 for your life.

[eager spire]

also, fuck the riot shield in Hardline. people who run that with a shotgun are my enemies.

[copper ice]

in a game with huge open sight lines where if you can see someone you can shoot someone

[carmine rover]

Double Barrel and Shield

[eager spire]

uggh

[next onyx]

I always ran around with ammo box and mixed it up with the shield or charges.

[carmine rover]

they can just turn their back and they are literally invincible

[copper ice]

falck increases my ability to push tenfold

[next onyx]

Setting your DBS to double barrel mode and killing a guy in a single hit from 30 metres away.

[copper ice]

shield working on back is a very bad design decision

[next onyx]

I wasted all my ammo, but sheer pellet count!

You're dead!

[copper ice]

i miss double barrels in 2042

[eager spire]

shield is a bad design decision

[carmine rover]

that feeling when u get sniped across the map by a mammoth gun and the enemy is teabagging and spraying you

😔🤘

[copper ice]

we have one double barrel and it doesnt even shoot both barrels at once

[next onyx]

Triple barrel mammoth gun with all the recoil in the world.

[eager spire]

Good.

[copper ice]

It doesn't even have an ATTACHMENT to shoot both barrels at once

[next onyx]

After properly dozer on 2042 holy shit he's actually powerful.

[copper ice]

stupid nvk

[carmine rover]

that feeling when there is a SPAR user with infrared sights on an impossible headglitch destroying your whole team

😔🤘

[copper fulcrum]

The slow aim on Dozer fucks him in most areas

[next onyx]

Yeah.

He's only good on a mounted assault.

Lots of smoke too.

[copper ice]

dozer is super good if you're in a place with actual corridors

which is like 2% of the map

[royal swan]

Dozer is good in rush

[arctic grove]

I like it when dozers stand up and i can shoot em in the feet

[royal swan]

Really good

[next onyx]

On rush xl on hourglass, last sector under the bridge I eventually pushed through and started bonking the fuck out of the defusers.

I actually made a difference and it felt amazing.

[carmine rover]

that feeling when you put 5 shots into a mechanic and you see your bullets bounce off of them because armor insert

[next onyx]

I died but the bomb still blew.

[royal swan]

I remember bonking 5 people that tried to plant the bomb

[next onyx]

You see those sparks because of body armour.

[carmine rover]

that feeling when you chase a professional and they planted 100 laser tripmines

[copper ice]

My favourite thing about being dozer is that if you sit in a corner no one can do anything to you

[next onyx]

Nothing is any more satisfying than running ap rounds on your AKM, seeing a mechanic with the shield symbol and mag dumping into his chest.

[eager spire]

Professional in Hardline is funny. Player movement is fast in Hardline so why would you even play that.

[carmine rover]

that feeling when you are playing hotwire and you die 100 times to a breaching charge when trying to drive a car

[copper ice]

so you get to hang out with the enemy

[royal swan]

Until they pepper you with explosives

[next onyx]

Because magnum round snipers and pocket k10.

[royal swan]

You are resistant but never immune

[eager spire]

to be honest, hot take about hardline, but I don't like Hotwire.

[copper ice]

it takes a LOT of explosives

[carmine rover]

i hate hotwire

[next onyx]

Hotwire was fun in the beta

[carmine rover]

i only did it for the syndicate or need fmg9

[next onyx]

The car chases were so much fun.

[royal swan]

Probably takes an extra airblast

[copper ice]

if they put their gun away it gives you time to kill them also

[carmine rover]

that feeling when you are playing heist and your teammates are letting the enemies run right past them with the bag

[eager spire]

In fact i don't like most of the unique modes Hardline has. I find Blood Money to be an annoying stomp-fest, Hotwire is stupid cause i hate driving, and Heist kind of just reminds me of Rush.

to be honest i hate Heist the least of them

but i don't like 'em.

[next onyx]

That's Money in the vault!

Ughhh I'd love to play a modernised blood money on 2042.

[carmine rover]

people complain about rush xl being a grenade spam fest.. They should play The Block on tdm or conquest

[eager spire]

I hate The Block.

[carmine rover]

grenade spam. gas everywhere. fire everywhere. nonstop sniping

[next onyx]

Grenades weren't that bad either on the block funny enough.

[carmine rover]

so fun

[next onyx]

Infact the fire was more annoying.

[eager spire]

Block would be fine if grenades and shotguns were banned.

[carmine rover]

i saw someone go 90-0 throwing nothing but nades

[eager spire]

but nobody does weapon bans on Hardline.

because they're a bunch of fucking cowards.

[next onyx]

I would be that asshole playing as enforcer with the gas mask and gas grenades and the scar.

You get a gas grenade and you get a gas grenade. You all get gas grenades.

[royal swan]

Rush xl is more of a smoke fest than a nade fest. Mother fuckers trying to be Oregon

[carmine rover]

that feeling when you are on conquest and your team is getting spawntrapped and u literally cant do anything about it

[next onyx]

Fast throw and extra grenade means I could carry up to 4 and just throw them out quick.

[carmine rover]

way did u know about the super jump glitch or was that too late for you?

[royal swan]

Ski....ll ahh iss..ue

god damit

[eager spire]

Join into a 6v6 match on Night Woods Conquest
Run around for a bit as Operator
Die to a CAT
"oh this is what we're doing then"
Switches to Mechanic

Sidenote: Fuck Night Woods.

[carmine rover]

Night Woods was amazing ..

[next onyx]

No. I stopped playing hardline I think 2017 onwards.

[eager spire]

I hate Night maps.

I hate not being able to see shit.

[carmine rover]

can i show you way? there was a glitch me and my friend discovered in 2021 and we posted it in the hardline community thread and now on playstation hardline literally everyone does it now

[next onyx]

Visibility was worse on night job versus night woods if I remember correctly.

Yeah if you want to show do it.

[carmine rover]

alright

[eager spire]

well the only server in NA doesn't seem to run Night Job

[royal swan]

If only you can alter the brightness of your computer or TV

[eager spire]

ah yes lemme just turn up my brightness for ONE SINGLE MAP

BECAUSE THAT'S REASONABLE

[next onyx]

If I could change my deadzones I'd easily go back to hardline.

[royal swan]

It takes a couple seconds

[next onyx]

AKM would be a blast to play with again.

[royal swan]

Bro don't overreact over a couple seconds

[jade stratus]

the only reason I haven’t done that is because locker’s snow is a literal flash bang and I haven’t taken the time to change it back since prise tahure

like holy shit couldn’t see anything that’s two feet in front of me in both maps

[carmine rover]

ill have to find it first way . then ill show u :3

[eager spire]

it's not an overreaction, I just don't like the map.

[mortal socket]

?

[eager spire]

you can read

[mortal socket]

Irish aps should exist

[eager spire]

no it shouldn't

[mortal socket]

We had something similar in bf4

[eager spire]

Irish having APS was designed for a game where tanks didn't have APS.

Tanks have APS now, Irish does not need it.

[royal swan]

Don't even get into that argument

It's not good in the mental health

Or intelligence

[copper ice]

Irish aps is fine if only infantry existed

[mortal socket]

If aps shouldn't exist gl and sph should do less dmg

[copper ice]

so it should simply not affect anti-vehicle tools

[copper ice]

yes, they shouldn't

[jade stratus]

instead they should just make hp of the deployable shield 10% more

and remove it

[eager spire]

SPH shouldn't exist either, because it does the same shit that grenade launchers do except stick to players, which is a fucking gimmick and noting more.

[copper ice]

i thought sph was going to be a breaching tool

guess they remembered nothing in 2042 is destructible so there's nothing to breach

[royal swan]

Breaching lmao, like this game gives that much destruction

[jade stratus]

like sticking to walls is cool but come on chokes are spamming heaven

and not in a good way

[eager spire]

It's a stupid gimmick that doesn't need to be in this game.

[copper ice]

2 shots per mag, fast rof, fast reload speed

[mortal socket]

The aps should be like the bf4 active for 2 - 3 seconds after blocking an explosive

[copper ice]

every single assault running it

fat aoe

chokes were already ridden with explosives

[jade stratus]

this is why I run smoke x2 instead

launcher and made

[mortal socket]

It can deflect smoke

[copper ice]

smokes do little in the face of endless aoe

[jade stratus]

true

[copper ice]

there's no real counter other than not dying

which is just Irish

[eager spire]

DICE looked at the explosive spam this game has, and was like "You know what? We don't have a sticky grenade launcher yet."

And then they proceeded to make the problem worse.

[jade stratus]

yeah they just park their latv4s up set up the trophy system and go to town raking in kills

[copper ice]

🫡

[jade stratus]

funny how after the nerf nobody uses tail gun against vehicles anymore even though it’s the only thing getting through it

[copper ice]

god forbid people use the transports for transporting anything other than five thousand 30mm cannon rounds

[jade stratus]

rail gun

[copper ice]

because railgun is still shit against vehicles

[mortal socket]

We would like to have explosive dmg reduction

[copper ice]

getting through is pointless if it's only tickling them

[topaz field]

These SPH needs to be nerfed lmfaoo

[mortal socket]

Miss the squad perks

[jade stratus]

exactly but what else are you going to do?

[copper ice]

give up and focus on infantry

it's what 99% of my team was doing every match

that's why i uninstalled

[copper ice]

this can be applied to many many many diceisms

[jade stratus]

yeah latv spammers are just brainless mortar truckers from 1

[royal swan]

Good, glad it no longer does that

[signal pebble]

I still don't have RM68

sad😭

[jade stratus]

it’s still better than any sniper

[royal swan]

True

Definitely needs a fix there

[jade stratus]

like aside from the memes of the ntw you see nobody using the other snipers

and if you use ntw against infantry you need to get out

[royal swan]

It's a meme gun at this point

[next onyx]

That's its only use now.

[royal swan]

They need to bring it back

[jade stratus]

aside from railgun that’s the only way I get revenge on 30mm campers

[royal swan]

A big fat juicy buff

[eager spire]

I'm still of the opinion that sniping is a fairly worthless tactic in most games.

[copper ice]

i agree, but it's still ass

[jade stratus]

can’t deny that it’s satisfying though

[eager spire]

eh.

[next onyx]

I won't lie. Now I really do see a use for the m44.

[jade stratus]

martini henry

[next onyx]

It's a bit weak but hey. Pocket sniper.

[royal swan]

Oh the martini henry

[copper ice]

2042 sniping is the weakest it's ever felt imo

[royal swan]

Bf1 sniping was fabulous

[eager spire]

The martini henry makes me wanna jump out of a second story window.

Not enough to die but probably break my leg.

[royal swan]

No way bro

[copper ice]

even bfv bolties felt better

[royal swan]

NO FUCKING WAY

NAHHH

[eager spire]

YES FUCKING WAY

THAT THING CAN GENUINELY FUCK OFF.

[jade stratus]

V was the best feeling snipers

imo

[royal swan]

The Martini Henry, bro it's not even the best or most annoying sniper

[jade stratus]

Gonna get a lot of hate

[royal swan]

Its a more satisfying sniping weapon

[arctic grove]

I would assume 1, V and 2042 all share high velocity snipers though right? 1 had sweet spot but in general I would assume they’re all pretty similar, differences being sound and animation design across the three games

[royal swan]

A big sniper, one bullet in the chamber, and a good sweet sweet spot

[eager spire]

I am fucking sick of getting sweetspotted by some fucking idiot headglitching with a Martini Henry on fucking Fao Fortress.

It is the most annoying bullshit.

[royal swan]

That idiot is skilled and should be respected

[eager spire]

no.

[royal swan]

Be grateful that they aren't railing you with the best bf1 sniper and just using the martini henry

[eager spire]

He doesn't get to say he's skilled when he can oneshot me to the body just cause i happen to be a certain distance away from him. nah.

He's a fucking idiot.

Whoever made that mechanic is fucking stupid.

[next onyx]

Ntw with thermal good fun.

[eager spire]

They probably don't even work at DICE anymore. Good.

[royal swan]

This screams skill issue and crying

[eager spire]

Shut the fuck up.

[royal swan]

The Martini Henry isn't even good

The range is terrible, the speed is slow

[eager spire]

It's a prime example of why the sweet spot mechanic is ass.

[royal swan]

It only holds One bullet

[eager spire]

It's fucking stupid.

[royal swan]

Hitting a sweet spot requires better aim than going for the head

[eager spire]

nah you're trolling me at this point

you can't be serious with this.

[royal swan]

Sweet spots are not all the same on every sniper

[zealous rapids]

I have finished achievement with Xbox Gamepass. If I bought this game on Steam do I have to redo those achievement?

[royal swan]

Some snipers just don't even have them

Oh and the range is specific

[eager spire]

okay but you're still trolling me by acting like hitting a body shot at a certain arbitrary range somehow requires better aim than going for headshots.

[royal swan]

I think it's the range that matters

To pull it off consciously yes

[eager spire]

yeah nah you're definitely trolling me, this ain't real.

[royal swan]

This ain't real that your balling over the sweet spot

[acoustic seal]

this server has made me learn that level in name = delusional

[eager spire]

It's a terrible fucking mechanic

why do you think BFV immediately got rid of it

because it was fucking stupid.

[royal swan]

The same battlefield that added the one shot snipers

[eager spire]

The AT rifles? The ones that required bipods to be aimed properly?

that weren't even that good in the first place?

Not even mentioning the fact that bipods in BFV hardly worked?

[royal swan]

I think you need to chill out, and stay off battlefield or go play hardline the only battlefield game you somewhat like

[eager spire]

I think you need to acknowledge the reality that's in front of you instead of gaslighting yourself into thinking dogshit mechanics are actually good.

I think that's what you need to do.

[royal swan]

Your gaslighting me with bad ideas

I rather play a game with bullshit than some water down boring garbage fps game

[eager spire]

They're both different varieties of bad!

[acoustic seal]

oops i watered my game down by adding a skill gap

[eager spire]

Neither of them are good!!!

Also what VFC said.

[carmine rover]

skills base matchmaking when

[royal swan]

More like watering it down to fucking Nothing

[carmine rover]

^ joke

[acoustic seal]

what this conversation is about is that you think a game is shit if it doesn't have cheesy one shot mechanics

"add mortars" lol

[royal swan]

The cheese one shot mechanic that doesn't work most the time and only restricted on certain weapons that are restricted on specific requirements

[acoustic seal]

skill gap MUST be compressed to nothing or your game is boring/i don't want to play it

[carmine rover]

pls dont add mortors into 2042 🥹

pls .. no more explosives