battlefield-2042

[proper rover]

i bet they will make transport helis better

cus dice

[royal swan]

Nah they won't

[torpid wadi]

A new jet would be cool

[royal swan]

Make all air vehicles except the transport helis glass cannons

Like what they always been

[proper rover]

replace super hind with hind

[royal swan]

Have the front gunner a camera spotter

[proper rover]

that would be too nerfed

[royal swan]

Nope it will put it in it's place

[proper rover]

that would make the condor top heli

[royal swan]

Those miniguns are effective if you can aim and stabilize

Just make the annoying part of the transport heli the spotter

But increase spots for players

I noticed three major problems with the transport, its strong offensive capabilities, beefy health making it almost impossible to die as a experienced pilot, and not enough player spaces

[drowsy shuttle]

Imma say.. when i use the rm68 with thermal scope, i feel like im cheating

This weapon shouldnt exist

Or at least not so powerful

I mean its fun but gets boring quickly of how easy it is playing with it

[royal swan]

Idea for transport heli
[Slot 1] pilot
[Slot 2] spotter
[Slot 3 & 4] minigunners
[Slot 5] repair area (located at the door)
[Slot 6, 7, & 8] all sit

[proper rover]

replace the miniguns with hmgs or lmgs

[royal swan]

Well those are more accurate than miniguns

Miniguns are only effective close range

[proper rover]

less damage though

[acoustic seal]

miniguns are fine just get rid of the fucking cannons

[hybrid totem]

tell that to the f'n nightbird

[proper rover]

well you would want your passengers safe

[royal swan]

No I want my passengers out, I'm a transport pilot not a tank driver

[proper rover]

well you would want them safe when they are out

[royal swan]

Another problem people don't bring up is the struggle of actually transporting people

Some assholes stay in the heli

Using up all spaces

[arctic grove]

How’s the rpk 74?

[proper rover]

its a transport yet rarely used for transport

[royal swan]

Godlike for a vault weapon

[arctic grove]

The aek feels potent

[royal swan]

Rpk is a direct upgrade to the base gun ak

[arctic grove]

I understand that dude I said the aek feels fuckin potent at close quarters

[hybrid totem]

Hoow would you feel about adding the CAV spawn ability to the transports

[lament plank]

Wow I sure love loading into exposure BT as the attacking team with under 25 tickets left. Because that’s a fun experience loading into the most disgustingly unbalanced defence map.

[royal swan]

I have to type in chat and tell them to get the fuck out

[arctic grove]

Add mortars

[proper rover]

just crash into the ground

[royal swan]

I don't want dual repairs, I'm a competent pilot get the fuck out

[acoustic seal]

the "transports" need to have their ability to farm the fuck out of people under control first

once they fit the role THEN we can talk about adding more utility

[arctic grove]

Give me mobile artillery I’ll make your ass hole hurt sitting on spearhead obective c1

[royal swan]

Gotta love mobile arty

[hybrid totem]

Eh it's all theoretical at this point, transports have multiple issues and we can talk about all of them

[magic bloom]

Hes amazing

[proper rover]

cav is a heli eradicator

[arctic grove]

But then again bf is t meant to be played like a milsim

Isn’t-*

[royal swan]

Replace the main gun with a spotter, remove either one of the doors so I get one repair man, add 3 passenger slots with no usability

[proper rover]

just like the 1942 transports

1 driver, 1 gunner, 4 useless seats

[royal swan]

Like that yes

[fresh lintel]

Zain + SPH is busted

[arctic grove]

Hey while we’re at it can we add white phosphorus

People don’t play fair in war

[wide shore]

Yesterday I had 37 kills in about 5 mins on Orbital Rush XL with this

[fresh lintel]

There's also this thing called the Geneva Convention (Suggestion to Canadians)

[wide shore]

Unfortunately I switched to trying to get disrupt kills and didn’t just keep going. Cause I probably coulda broke 100

[arctic grove]

The Geneva Convention Is a joke

Look at syria

[fresh lintel]

I went 29-5 (its not much) on Breakthrough on the new map.

But uh. It was mostly SPH/XM kills because the enemies couldnt really push up

Isn't Syria not apart of the UN?

[arctic grove]

People play dirty as fuck in war

[fresh lintel]

Because IIRC GC is for UN Countries.

Which Russia is not apart of. Hence their use of War crimes.

[arctic grove]

Fuck it let’s add plague war fare

[proper rover]

war crimes are a stupid thing to make if people are gonna do it anyway

[royal swan]

We should get flamethrowers

[hybrid totem]

I'mma change my mind. Leave the grenades and 50mm, but add a minigun as a secondary. Then turn the minigun seats into passenger seats

[fresh lintel]

I'm surprised Bio chem weapons were not the focus of last season, considering Zain has a whole ass Hazmat suit.

[royal swan]

I'll keep the two miniguns and make the main gun a spotter seat

[proper rover]

that people can use spotters in

[hybrid totem]

honestly after they revamped spotting, spotter seats are nigh useless

[royal swan]

Make the spotter have a soflam ability

[hybrid totem]

lol that is definitely gonna ruffle feathers

[proper rover]

that would be busted

[arctic grove]

So flam needs a buff

Why the fuck am I going to sit on a cliff all game soflam helis and jets that will fuck our ass if they aren’t dealt with if I’m not gonna get any points for it

[hybrid totem]

fer the teamplay

[proper rover]

i use the wildcat for anti tank stuff

[royal swan]

Make the spotter only soflam shit in 100meters max

[hybrid totem]

it would never get used

[royal swan]

More reasons to leave the heli

It's a transport not a tank GET THE FUCK OUT

[hybrid totem]

nerfing something only works if you leave it worth playing

[proper rover]

just make 2 types of transport helis

one that is armed better but less armour

[hybrid totem]

ooh ooh add passenger seats and spawn ability to the stealth chopper

[proper rover]

one that has barely any armaments and more armour

[royal swan]

Stealth chopper? Did you mean the season 4 transport truck

[hybrid totem]

transport jet

actually

why not

fucking ac130

[wide shore]

Get rid of the front gun and add 2 extra seats for passengers in the transport helis. Easy

Make it useful for spawning

[royal swan]

I think replacing the main gun with a spotter is better

[wide shore]

Which is what it should be used for

That’s fine too

[hybrid totem]

oh how abotu replace the main gun with a flak cannon

[royal swan]

No one wants to be spotter so it's an extra free space meaning more people can spawn and dip out

[copper ice]

Look on the bright side! Soflaming them still wont kill them so its fucking pointless anyway!

[arctic grove]

Fuck it let’s add everything from IRL war to make BF super unfun im talking FOBs where you have to drive a supply truck from the main base to the forward FOB but guess what that’s an IED on the road what’s that you tan over it? Guess what you’re fucking dead bye bye

[copper ice]

Sorry we already had bfv

[hybrid totem]

you would love talking to znath

[copper ice]

people would mine

the generic routes to the vehicle resupply stations

and it worked 9/10

[hybrid totem]

be the 10%

[copper ice]

a thing of beauty

[arctic grove]

Nah fuck that guy

[hybrid totem]

I was being facetious, I'm not sure anyone loves talking to him

[copper ice]

i do!

But i also really dont like 2042

[arctic grove]

I disagree if you’re playing a group of friends and you HEY MOTHER FUCKER PLAYING LIS I SOFLAMED THE FUCKING CONDO SO YOU BETTER START SHOOTING IT OR IM GOING TO FUCKING SCREAM

[copper ice]

its not like lis benefits from soflam!

which is actually a colossal design failure

there are 3 specialists with launchers and 1 of them cant even interact with soflam lock

[arctic grove]

I definitely think soflam helps dispose of shit like a hind or a condor flying around the map dropping about 3-4 troops off to a point to fuck is in the ass but people dgaf

[hybrid totem]

Not to mention they made it so you can't see the lockon symbol unless you have a launcher capable of locking on to it in your hands

[royal swan]

I'm the "GET OUT OF THE CAR NOW" guy when people don't fucking leave my transport heli taking up all of the seats

[copper ice]

a big part of it is that barely anyone is actually playing boris or Crawford

[royal swan]

When they do it's annoying, they won't fucking leave

[fresh lintel]

Boris is still one of the most played specialists on Xbox one

You see at least 3-5 turrets per team

[copper ice]

50% of all engies minimum are lis (being generous, usually its higher), and then about 20% of those crawford and boris arent even using a launcher

anyone picking boris has no fucking idea what they're doing and probably has eod bot equipped

[arctic grove]

Imagine if they added a game mode for BF except it’s exactly like squad and you get fucked in so many ways?

[copper ice]

Crawford and Boris genuinely should be forced to run a launcher 100% of the time

[royal swan]

"oH bUt I rEpAiR" I have a repair ability, large health, and in cover. GET OUT BORIS/CRAWFORD

[copper ice]

There's no reason to be either of them other than the launchers

Horrible horrible horrible game design

[fresh lintel]

Too be fair, that would mean even less AT mine usage. And EOD Bot is extremely niche.

[arctic grove]

My fav part about moron Crawfords is they stay in turret out in the middle of no where and it’s a free execute for me if I sneak up on them

[copper ice]

if you're running boris/crawford you shouldnt be running mines

or c5

they're both such awful specialists that literally the only reason to use them is the launchers

[drowsy shuttle]

Crawford is too easy for snipers.. also since his turret is made of egg shells, i would cover that hole in front of the turret...

[fresh lintel]

I don't play either because I prefer playing Fem specialists.

But i'd run AT Mines and maybe switch after I place them 🤷‍♀️

[wide shore]

I’ve suggested this many times

[arctic grove]

I can’t snipe for shot on this game

I’m not fucking leading my shots

[copper ice]

engies should always be able to take out a vehicle and mines would be fine if their main gadget could damage vehicles

however, it fucking cannot

[royal swan]

Vehicles have to much health

[copper ice]

boris turret is like shooting fucking glock AP rounds at a tank and crawford turret does absolutely jack fuck in a full overheat while being the biggest target to hit

theyre both utterly useless

[arctic grove]

They’re never gonna lower vehicle hp

They’d be pissing of way to many assholes

[drowsy shuttle]

It makes complete sense... its one thing or the other... increase turret/cover strenght or make it full cover and remove the hole in the front

[royal swan]

Crawford is only useful for being a vehicles bitch

[copper ice]

crawford is useful for having access to the m5

which is insanely poor game design

[drowsy shuttle]

Crawford is useful just to show off the swag

[royal swan]

And being a vehicles bitch

That repair ability works

[copper ice]

boris is worse crawford in every way, crawford sucks for anything but using m5 and extra repair speed (which is a shit ability that shouldn't exist because repairbot is already OP)

[arctic grove]

Honestly Casper’s so useful and it’s a god damn shame people don’t know how to get the fullest out of the drone

[royal swan]

What do you mean by repair bot, the auto repair, repair ability on vehicles, or the actual repair bot

The repair bot is more of a gimmick

I'll put more trust in auto repair

Which I want gone

[naive magnet]

Crawford can harass helis

[royal swan]

Auto Repair, and vehicle repair ability gone

[copper ice]

When you dedicate yourself solely to repairing

[naive magnet]

Also lay down good cover fire for flanks

Most don’t do that though

[copper ice]

so essentially being a bot dedicated to repairing

[royal swan]

Oh

[naive magnet]

His repair ability is definitely the focus of his build

But he’s not completely linear

[copper ice]

crawford heli harassment is nonexistent

[royal swan]

Best nerf to vehicles is removing the repair ability and auto repair, and bring back the manual repair

[copper ice]

His turret just makes him an easy target

[naive magnet]

I’ll use it when I run him, typically he’s a target yes. But on level maps like Spearhead, he can lay down a turret around E or A and harass helis pushing up

Granted it’s not like I’m looking for those chances, im typically a repair bitch or a vehicle bitch

And when things go sour I’ll switch and heal us haha

[royal swan]

The repair ability vehicles have shouldn't exist

[naive magnet]

I don’t use them a lot

[copper ice]

His turret is decent for laying constant fire down a very narrow hallway but lmgs are better at it

[naive magnet]

Only certain vehicles where mobility is important like RAM or LaTV4

[copper ice]

and if you're picking engie you're probably wanting to destroy tanks

[royal swan]

It's super abusive against anyone that wanted to kill you

[naive magnet]

They’re on my LATV4 and RAM and my MAV, but I’ll use double defense with CAV

[royal swan]

I abuse it so much on my transport heli, I have a strategy to effectively use the transport and never die

And 90% of the time I don't die

You fly in a big circle, from cover to over an objective and back to cover

[naive magnet]

Yeah helis are amazing

I love being a repair/gunner

[royal swan]

Never stop

Never go in the direction your team is going

[naive magnet]

I just wish CAVs were given the same love that helis have

Those two repair spots

Are OP

[royal swan]

And fly low

[naive magnet]

You can get picks, and duck and stuff, CAVs imo have more spawn potential than helis do

Cause you’re already on the ground

[royal swan]

They are but it's a major problem when you are trying to transport friendlies to the objective

Yes you never die but you don't have space for anyone to spawn and dip

[naive magnet]

It depends on how you drive I guess

Or if you have a team that actually spawns on you

And a good gunner etc

[royal swan]

The circle works as I make the offensive capabilities useless

No stopping = no killing

And they jump out

[naive magnet]

I never jump out

If you jump and they steal it’s the worst play in BF

[royal swan]

I don't jump, pilots aren't supposed to jump

[naive magnet]

Outside of LATV4 or Hover

But like it better be a good jump

[royal swan]

I'll only jump when I'm in the spawn area of the map

The out of bounds for enemies

[arctic grove]

So how’s this game?

[fresh lintel]

Every match with Zain has been 20+ kills and sub 6 deaths

And then a secondary shotgun.. Goodness.

[arctic grove]

I’ve been hearing lately that is far better than when it released

[fresh lintel]

The game is fun actually.

If you played BF3 or BF4, you'll find this game is VERY easy compared to them.

[upbeat sand]

Super too is a bit busted

[arctic grove]

Why’s that?

[upbeat sand]

The range on the thing good god

[fresh lintel]

It genuinely does need tuning

[upbeat sand]

Just switch the MSC and the super 500 spread with each other

[fresh lintel]

Well in this game, you're not punished as hard for holding down the trigger.

[arctic grove]

oh

[fresh lintel]

Like some guns do need bursting to be effective at Mid range and I do burst every gun out of habit, but some you dont need to.

[drowsy shuttle]

You are not punished at all. Its a straight beam

[fresh lintel]

Well in that case, have fun never needing to burst.

[arctic grove]

Which uh operators come with the year 1 pass?

And can you buy them individually?

I’d imagine you can right?

specialists*

[fresh lintel]

I think every operator is unlocked for free now? I'm unsure.

Well besides maybe Zain and the new lady. Dont quote me on that.

[copper ice]

bursting is less accurate because initial recoil exists

[drowsy shuttle]

Her name is Juanita. Not lady

[arctic grove]

Lady Juanita

So they are all unlockable?

Just a way to accelerate?

I got all of the operators except two when I downloaded the game

[fresh lintel]

And I played last season so I got them all now.

Theyre all unlockable, if anything. Its usually some redundant task like "Kill X enemies with Y gun" or "Shoot X tanks 5 times with XYZ launchers" for example

And Lady, you just play the game for her right now since shes in the Battlepass.

Zain might need that redundant task

[drowsy shuttle]

I think there were some bugs with the unlocks so they just gave them to anyone

[magic bloom]

Im happy I got the tier 100 blasco skin

[arctic grove]

Is that the all black one with the NVG?

[copper ice]

Definitely not the first time they've done this

[magic bloom]

Yeah

[fresh lintel]

Having to go back and forth between D2 and 2042 is going to be fun for my sanity because I really hate losing out on BP rewards

[drowsy shuttle]

It sucks hard... but im.using it lol

[acoustic seal]

vehicle hp is not and has never been the problem, vehicles die very easily to all the AV weapons in the game if people would use them

unless you're mad that you can't solo down a tank with lis missile or something then lmao cry about it

[fresh lintel]

As someone who has seen and have been in tanks that died near instantly, from full HP

The AV in this game is too good. Especially since the M5 is literally point and click.

And then multiple people had the audacity to go "Lol M5 isnt OP you're just bad"

My brother in christ the M5 isnt the Fat Man.

[acoustic seal]

the m5 takes like 4 rockets to kill a mav and travels at the speed of light, and it still got stealth buffed to reload faster

[fresh lintel]

And it also has no drop.

[acoustic seal]

motherfuckers are deranged if they think AT is weak

[fresh lintel]

Then with how easy it is for Sundance and Mackay to get in close. You either die to M5s out of cover or you get flanked by a C5 user.

[arctic grove]

I think it looks pretty good tbh

[fresh lintel]

Blasco BP100 Skin is pretty good

[arctic grove]

S4 has some solid BP cosmetics yea

[arctic grove]

Division 2? I remember when I used to play it a lot, generally forgiving BP progression speed from what I remember

so now that we have the rpk74 are we gonna get the ak 74 at some point or what?>

[acoustic seal]

there's no rhyme or reason to which portal guns get added

[magic bloom]

I just hit level 1000

Haven’t touched the game since

[whole escarp]

Congrats 🥳

[magic bloom]

Told my clan once I hit 1000 i was quitting til they came out with a new raid

[kindred flint]

playing zain to get explosive damage done, and using concussion nades for the disrupted kills...wow thats painful

[gritty tapir]

lol wtf, cant reload my guns

[fresh lintel]

I feel like they need to take a look at Renewal breakthrough.

And just the start and end capture points since its: Near impossible to capture A points as attackers. And then its near impossible to defend the last capture points as defenders.

[limpid pond]

Use emp grenades and play rush. Emp the maps and it you get as many as there are people in the vehicle

[ivory canopy]

I've been thinking

[torpid wadi]

Have you now?

[ivory canopy]

Next round of vault weapons should include a sniper rifle

[arctic grove]

who ever said the rpk 74 is god like

i disagree

[spare depot]

stranded is by far the worst map in the game

zero cover and awful spawns

[arctic grove]

I think hourglass is worse

I can’t see for shit in that dust storm

[spare depot]

hourglass is pretty bad but at least the spawns arent spawnkill haven

[acoustic seal]

this describes every base game map

[mortal socket]

Can the enemy see a light with a 4x scope?

[edgy oriole]

yes

4x up

[ivory canopy]

It's pretty good tbh but not world breaking

I kinda like it

I want to see the following vault weapons in the next run:
MG3 (BC2)
M95 (BC2)
JNG-90 (BF3)

[mortal socket]

That's dumb on bf4 that didn't happen

[ebon pilot]

glint is only visible beyond 5x

[arctic grove]

I wanna see the ak 74 tbh

[torpid wadi]

God as my guide i need the mg3

[arctic grove]

I don’t know why they don’t add a want to add a gun smith feature besides the one they got rn they got plenty of guns for example shorter barrel different stock on the rpk 74 you now have the ak 74

[wet plank]

Is portal kinda dead? I barely see any full servers so I mostly play conquest and breakthrough

[arctic grove]

god rush xl is indeed a pc killer

[edgy oriole]

pizza commented below your reply but if you didnt see 4 is safe from glint i was wrong. 5x and up.

[arctic grove]

Yea I like it for medium range it seems good but no where near god like

[gritty tapir]

wait the shotgun that looks like the ksg isnt pump action?

[ebon pilot]

yep it's semi-auto

[gritty tapir]

what are the nordvik guns even supposed to be? rail guns?

or gauss

[ebon pilot]

only the railgun is a railgun

[gritty tapir]

so lore wise the pistol and shotguns are just regular guns?

[frank sequoia]

if gun has rail tho?

[ebon pilot]

the shotgun and pistol are just normal guns but with different furniture

like the pistol is just a normal gun but it's a bullpup, the shotgun is basically just a semi-auto KSG

[clear tundra]

No I’ve been having one full match after another with no pause in between

[ivory canopy]

AK24 is basically the AK74 so I highly doubt it.

[gritty tapir]

the nvk pistol reminds me of the alternator from titanfall

[ivory canopy]

Then again we got the M16A3 and M416 so idk

But at least those were slightly different. The AK24 is basically the same basic design as the AK74.

I'll accept if they want to add the AK-101 from Battlefield 2, however...

Complete with the "endless" flip mag

[gritty tapir]

when does this season end

[edgy oriole]

we in week 6 rn.

idk the date

[gritty tapir]

oh neat didnt know that

[spare depot]

i want the AK 12 and F2000

[wide shore]

No secret what I want

Technically we have the AK12

Just not the prototype version

[ivory canopy]

AK24 is basically the AK-12

They just gave it a different name

Like they did the MCX Spear (later known in the U.S. military as the XM7)

Yes, I know they called it the XM5 at first

[delicate hollow]

what do you want, you've left us no hints

[delicate hollow]

ah yes, the SKS

[wide shore]

[delicate hollow]

I'd personally prefer the AN94

[wide shore]

[delicate hollow]

in all seriousness I really want a heavy pistol like the deagle

or an mp5

[torpid wadi]

I hate when games add an sks then give it a tapco stock and ak mags

Like my brother in christ why the hell even bother adding the gun?

[delicate hollow]

gotta pad that weapons list somehow

[torpid wadi]

To give our players a diverse amount of weapons we have added the ak but shittier

Like at least give it a wood stock

[carmine rover]

pls add the skorpion smg into 2042 pls

[acoustic seal]

this game plays exactly the same with no sound lol

only once in a bt match did i die to something that might've been predicted by audio

[sour meadow]

i just realized

i haven't seen any cheaters in 2042 since launch

i've only seen about 2

ever

DICE created the ultimate anticheat

launch a terrible product, improve it over time

a game so bad, even the cheaters don't want to touch

[acoustic seal]

and are these "improvements" in the room with us right now?

[sour meadow]

did you just get back into 2042

[acoustic seal]

what did they improve

[sour meadow]

almost everything

[acoustic seal]

it's not input or performance which were my 2 main reasons for not wanting to play initially

[tepid agate]

You are lucky haha

[edgy oriole]

i think homemade cheats (the ones we see rn) are harder to catch than the mainstream cheaters.

[mortal socket]

I feel like the glint is with 4x

[edgy oriole]

which is why we see the same cheaters not get banned

[tepid agate]

They were common from my experience. Used to spray LMGs getting instant headshots.

[sour meadow]

i do constantly see hackusations in lobbies where the person with the most kills is going like 15-5

[edgy oriole]

on your character there is a giant glowstick that shines across the whole map. most snipers just llook for that. which is prolly what happening to you

this as an example

even tho there is glint in the game that makes it easier too see. there is also the laser tag light that give anyone away

[tepid agate]

Is the next season for 2042 season 5?

[edgy oriole]

yeah

[mortal socket]

I'm not using 5x and above

I'm using 4x and 3x

[tepid agate]

When is that supposed to be realeased? I wonder what new things they will do to the game.

[edgy oriole]

were in week 6 and there isd 14 weeks to a season.

they gonna add a gadget and a map atleast. idk what else they gonna drop they keeping it secret

[tepid agate]

Ah, ok. I only played the first 2 weeks then stopped so I lost track of the time it's at lol so I guess patch notes will come in another 6-7 weeks.

All I recall is they are reworking another launch map

The sand one

[arctic grove]

I wonder when they'll add new modes

[torpid wadi]

I dunno why but i aint enjoying 42 nearly ad much lately. Feels like since i got it on the ps5 it just isn’t as fun as it was

[tepid agate]

Don't they still do weekly rotation modes?

[arctic grove]

if they even make 64 rush

that still won't make it up

So is the ak 74u just doggie dookie?

[tepid agate]

I dunno I stopped playing it

[acoustic seal]

the "weekly rotation" is taking away seasons breakthrough every other week

[tepid agate]

I just used to do breakthrough to finish weekly missions

[arctic grove]

I grew tired with the game

when will they bring back old content

[tepid agate]

Well players can just make a portal server for a map they like

[tepid agate]

Dunno I moved on. Will probably check out the next title in the future

[arctic grove]

I sure as shit didn't

I'm staying behind when they actually make genuine good games

[tepid agate]

Maybe after next season they can fully focus on the game as they would have finished redesigning their launch maps

Should have more content for the fans

[arctic grove]

bring back old stuff

like commander

[tepid agate]

I used to like that mode. Literally bought an iPad just for it

[arctic grove]

the proper way is on PC

[tepid agate]

Either way it was fun. Over 10 years ago I think

[abstract otter]

Was it or do you miss how it felt to play games back then

The games were more content rich

[arctic grove]

AND had souls

unlike 2042

[tepid agate]

Nah commander mode was really fun. I'd still play it on iPad if it was here

[abstract otter]

It still does i think youre jaded we grew old

[edgy oriole]

mid year 2 they gonna announce next multiplayer game has been my guess

[astral sky]

do they have commander mode on 2042?

[abstract otter]

We look back on the past and only remember the best

[tepid agate]

No

[astral sky]

man if only they had serious servers with commander mode

[tepid agate]

Commander mode went a long time ago I think

[edgy oriole]

my game black screened now i dont have sound

[tepid agate]

I thought the game is popping again because it had recent sales

Should have good servers

[arctic grove]

hardline was the last time we got it

[tepid agate]

Ah, I never tried hard-line

[edgy oriole]

no recent sales just got free on playstation

[torpid wadi]

God was it fun

[tepid agate]

I thought their was another steam discount for it

Players spiked for a moment

[abstract otter]

People back then didn’t really like it

[edgy oriole]

if you talking about 2042 its been on sale for years

[arctic grove]

not even sales won't change my mind

[edgy oriole]

big player jump was just bc it was free on ps+

[arctic grove]

and I still don't

[tepid agate]

Started at bf4 then went to bf1, bfV, then stopped at 2042

[abstract otter]

Cool

[tepid agate]

But I saw a sudden increase in steam numbers I heard a sale was in stores again

[abstract otter]

What do you play

[upbeat sand]

There was a sale that was 60% off

[edgy oriole]

oh maybe then. idk why a big jump would happen its practically been on sale for the past 3 months

[arctic grove]

3, 4, BC

[abstract otter]

Yeah 2042 has a relatively lively playerbase

[upbeat sand]

2042 is definitely the most pickup and play casual AAA rn

[tepid agate]

Ah I see. I see YouTubers making videos that 2042 are turning things around

Mate, it's because of a cheap sale then numbers drop again

[upbeat sand]

All the other AAA games are really competitive

[arctic grove]

explain older BF

[upbeat sand]

I mean battlefield franchise itself is casual

(Except bf4 the oce region has fucked the game to the point of unplayable ness)

[abstract otter]

2042 had an identity crisis they made imo a fun game but not a great battlefield

[arctic grove]

they're still better casual games than 2042

[tepid agate]

Agree

[arctic grove]

it's a BAD identity

should've not went with hero ops

[abstract otter]

Well that wasn’t the devs choice

[upbeat sand]

It's fun but maybe it would of been better is DICE just called it 2042

Or made it a spin-off

[tepid agate]

Players wanted a good battlefield game, not a good game like other FPS shooters

[abstract otter]

It’s what people like so it’s what publishers push

[arctic grove]

you call this good?

open your eyes

[upbeat sand]

Is fun

[arctic grove]

it's not

[tepid agate]

I see it's merit but it's not what battlefield fans want

[upbeat sand]

It dosent have to be good as long as u find enjoyment

[arctic grove]

when game is stale without any new unique content

[abstract otter]

That’s super objective

[tepid agate]

And I don't speak for everyone as some people enjoy 2042

[arctic grove]

it's always bloody conquest, BT

[tepid agate]

But they know they messed up

[arctic grove]

boring boring

[upbeat sand]

It's a nice game to just open, play a few rounds and go for the rest of the day

[arctic grove]

give me new modes

[abstract otter]

you may have your reasons but overall it’s pretty well liked rn

[upbeat sand]

Every bf4 server ever

[arctic grove]

they're trash

and more trash

if they only do default maps

and limit weapons

those are the worst kinds

[tepid agate]

Like I said, give the game 1 more season then they would have finished redesigning their launch maps

[arctic grove]

and if they don't?

[tepid agate]

Then they have more time to focus on new 2042 things

[arctic grove]

my money is wasted

down the drain

[tepid agate]

They will. I think that sand map is the last one to do

[arctic grove]

okay, but this better be about gunship and cruise missile s

[upbeat sand]

Hourglass honestly I found more fun than that overly large bf4 final stand map and golmud

[tepid agate]

You may see it like that but I just see it as an expensive lesson. A lesson not to preorder in the future and wait for reviews

[upbeat sand]

Since it has actual cqc areas like the stadium and the skyscrapers

[abstract otter]

I believe the game will never really have the ambiance nor the feel of older battlefields but we have to understand we’re the minority

[arctic grove]

I didn't preorder

[storm sierra]

hourglass is

[arctic grove]

got it on sale

thought portal would have more content

but

[tepid agate]

Lucky you lol

[arctic grove]

all that hope is gone

those assholes deserted portal

[tepid agate]

That other mode got abandoned too

[abstract otter]

Blaming the devs won’t change anything deadlines are deadlines

[arctic grove]

then fuck 2042

[abstract otter]

Creative choice is highly limited in AAA

[arctic grove]

so many shits gone wrong

[tepid agate]

You shouldn't feel so pissed many other including me got lured into buying it at launch lol

[upbeat sand]

I mean ripple effect is in charge of portal content not DICE

And seeing how ripple effect made flashpoint I'd say their too busy with other projects

[arctic grove]

it don't matter
none of this matters now

BF4 will soon get WR

[tepid agate]

Mate, they hype was real when the trailer came out

[arctic grove]

I'll forget about 2042 once WR is out

[tepid agate]

We had been crying for a modern war game again from Battlefield after many years of WW1 and WW2

[abstract otter]

Idk i feel not enough people are hearing about it it might flop

It’s a great project

I hope it succeeds

[tepid agate]

Like me lol what is WR

[arctic grove]

No, you’re not in the minority at all

[arctic grove]

Warsaw revamped

Google it

[abstract otter]

There’s so many casual gamers who do not care

They’re having fun and they’re driving sales

[arctic grove]

Oh, I see what you mean then

[tepid agate]

Ah, I don't really play a wide variety of games. I am enjoying mw2 and looking forward to S3.

[abstract otter]

We may have the strongest voice but the average bf player probably doesn’t notice much of what we’re saying

Which is completely fine

[arctic grove]

Eh, the casuals haven’t had any say in much concerning this game. They play this, don’t really engage with the devs/community, and do whatever else

whatever

this generation of gaming is fucked anyway

none of this matters

[abstract otter]

Yeah but the big wigs wanna please them

[arctic grove]

Meanwhile devs have directly taken balancing and other suggestions from us over the last year (but you aren’t wrong about casuals driving sales, I just think we’re lucky to have a bit more influence here)

[abstract otter]

Sbmm in cod is purely for the casual gamer

[tepid agate]

They should just make the game free for all at this point. It's been long enough

[abstract otter]

Dice listens EA does not

[arctic grove]

So is the 74u a middle of the pack gun?

The idea of this game being F2P used to piss me off because that was a slap in the face to anyone that bought this game, but I’ve had my time with it tbh, so

[tepid agate]

When 2042 has sales it actually has more players than bfV. Make it free for all and it can be the most played Battlefield

[abstract otter]

It’s one of the worst portal guns it’s no unusable no gun is but yeah

Wtf did I just write

Man i need to go bed

Bad gun but in good hands can be good

[arctic grove]

It’s probably for game health EA had a lot to make up for. Well I mean that launch from what I’ve heard was almost as bad as no man’s sky

The fact that we ever got to the point of consideration of making a battlefield game partially or fully F2P man

Jesus

[arctic grove]

I think I like the aek I just feel like the aek doesn’t have great range

Well not we but EA^^

[acoustic seal]

most of the bugs are still in the game, aside from atrocious hitreg getting reigned in to bf4 levels and one of the multiple recoil control bugs getting fixed

[upbeat sand]

Hi fi rush

[arctic grove]

Well I mean BF2042 still has many bad reviews

Oh yeah I know. I’m saying it’s ridiculous BF went that low

[arctic grove]

Games are just released like that now days. Don’t even ask about cyberfucked 2077

CoDs at the worst state it’s ever been in I have not played a game where they fix one bug but release 7 more in the game*

[edgy oriole]

just unlocked rm68 and damn they right out the gate give you the tv sight

no wonder the gun op

[eager spire]

okay i'm sick of playing BF4

genuinely just full of the same kind of players.

[edgy oriole]

i mean the game is 84 years old i dont think there will be any different kind of players

[eager spire]

fucking dime a dozen of the most obnoxious motherfuckers i've ever seen in my life

[acoustic seal]

every time i log in to bf1 it's the same kids who have been on daily for 9 years and haven't improved in the slightest

[arctic grove]

That’s the internet

[edgy oriole]

im surprised you lasted as long as you did with as many f bombed they drop in chat

[eager spire]

I'm not even bothering to play BF1 again. I'm sure i could probably annoy people on that game, but i don't care, it's not a fun game to play.

[edgy oriole]

ive been thinking about downloading bf1, but i cant bring myself to install old ass multiplayer games

[eager spire]

here's a recommendation: don't

No matter what people have told you, BF1 is not a good game, some people have just gaslighted themselves into thinking BF1 was a good game.

[edgy oriole]

it was fun when it came out

its just 80 years old

[eager spire]

was probably more fun when the sliding mechanic was actually worth using

[acoustic seal]

bf1 is playable, you just have to ban most of the mechanics and live with the fact that nerfed slide and suppression exist

[eager spire]

but no servers ban bullshit so

[violet otter]

I love BF1 and plenty of people play. I say it’s worth it

[next onyx]

Last time I played bf1 it was fun playing with the with the weapons.

Chauchat, model 8 extended, bar, etc.

[acoustic seal]

then you get sweet spotted by a guy sitting in his spawn and snap back to reality

[eager spire]

op there goes gravity

[eager spire]

either that or killed by a bipod LMG on the high ground

[latent widget]

[next onyx]

Oh yeah.

Beaming people with the browning was fun.

Just run telescopic because better sight.

2.5 to 3x

[eager spire]

i generally just ran the AA sights on the normal variants

because telescopic sights are stupid and i don't like 'em

[violet otter]

Grand operations is best in BF1 and the atmosphere just feels great.

[next onyx]

Eh you just stop caring and use what's best. You'd generally avoid scoped sights on a closer ranged weapon like the Madsen or the BAR.

[eager spire]

It's always the atmosphere. Oh, the atmosphere is the best in BF1, but it's never about the gameplay, is it?

[next onyx]

I'm used to bf5 aa sights not bf1 aa sights so it's like reee.

[eager spire]

Sure BF1 looks good, but it doesn't matter. If the game sucks ass to play, it does not matter.

[next onyx]

Operations do have pretty good atmosphere.

Though it's weird looking at retrospect holding off battalions.

[violet otter]

I still enjoy it a lot more than BF5. I’m not saying it doesn’t have its flaws it’s just my preference.

[eager spire]

BF1 and BFV are both different varieties of bad.

Neither of them are good.

[next onyx]

If it weren't for random recoil and health attrition bf5 would easily be the best. Though despite its flaws it's genuinely a fun game.

[latent widget]

[eager spire]

yeah but it has those, so.

[next onyx]

Just weird playing bf5 on pc for the first time and beaming people with the ke7

And I did say despite those flaws it's a genuinely fun game.

[eager spire]

i'm not talking about theoretical games here i'm talking about the games that actually came out.

[violet otter]

BF games to me were not really ever about the competitive aspect it was about feeling immersed in the game and the chaos of the large scale matches.

[next onyx]

Battlefield has always immersed me in its own way to be honest.

[eager spire]

"ThE cHaOs".

[next onyx]

I don't care about immersion.

[eager spire]

I am so sick of people talking about chaos.

[next onyx]

Ok

[eager spire]

You like dying to random bullshit you couldn't predict?

[arctic grove]

I still honestly hold to the assertion that unless you’re SUPER serious about the little things or details, you’d never think BF1 is a game that prioritizes immersion, it literally played almost exactly like BF4 but with a WW1 tint and obviously different balancing/mechanics, but again I don’t pay attention to every little detail, most things about it are manageable anyways

[latent widget]

don't worry this game was just an alpha for the next gen engine they were supposed to use but never did all it is, is stress test and data collection using algorithms of play type style and performance into the next real game in november 2024

[next onyx]

I don't think they specifically meant that with the chaos part.

[eager spire]

Well, I would like to know what else they could be talking about, because that's a big part of what makes things chaotic.

[next onyx]

Than again we have different interpretations of chaos.

Similar yet different.

[eager spire]

Your interpretation is charitable.

[next onyx]

I'd rather not assume straight off the bat.

[violet otter]

That happens with every game. BF has always been a casual shooter though and prioritises fun over being hardcore like CSGO or the more competitive games

[eager spire]

well it's either that or they're lying.

[eager spire]

Prioritizes fun
right, the franchise that created BF1 and BFV prioritizes fun.

riiiiiiiight.

[latent widget]

excuse me while i play battlefield 7

[next onyx]

Bf5 was fun.

Bf1 while I got sick of it. It's fun.

[eager spire]

Certainly wasn't designed that way which is why it fucking died

[arctic grove]

Like genuinely. You would have to care a FUCK ton about things that simply do not matter that much

Everyone has their own likes and dislikes, but Jesus Lycan, it is really annoying to see you interpret what you think as objectively true

[next onyx]

It's a 6 year old game it's due to drop off.

[violet otter]

A lot of people enjoyed BF1 and 5 even if you didn’t.

[latent widget]

6 years

my ass

[next onyx]

No.

7 year.

[eager spire]

how long ago did the support for BFV end?

[latent widget]

everyone knows the world ended 2012

[next onyx]

Lol.

[spare depot]

i just liked that the soldiers in every BF up till now were anonymous so you could immerse yourself into your character

now you play as random heroes

[next onyx]

Bf5's ended in late November of 2020.

[arctic grove]

Yeah same.

[next onyx]

There's this fly that won't leave me alone.

I want my power juice.

[arctic grove]

Obviously people play FPS to shoot virtual people with virtual guns. But it’s 2x as fun when you can immerse yourself as part of something.

I’m GIGANTIC on modern combat, which is why I absolutely adore BF4, not only for theme but how it’s enforced

[next onyx]

You played squad at all Levi?

[eager spire]

I like BF4 mechanically but the playerbase makes me wanna jump out a second story window.

[arctic grove]

I don’t have a mic otherwise I’d probably try it

[next onyx]

Just found out that game has a fucking galil AR and ARM.

I've seen my mate just cruise on bots.

[mortal socket]

Specialist are good, but it should be like rainbow six

[latent widget]

bf4 gunplay and character movement feel very weightless

[eager spire]

it's fine.

[arctic grove]

I’d rather not specialists be mandatory to play, at the very least

[eager spire]

I'd take it over BF1's gunplay and movement.

[next onyx]

You must play it and become GALIL enjoyer.

[latent widget]

bf2042 has a battlefield 5 heaviness to the guns

[spare depot]

bf4 movement is some of the fastest in the series if not the fastest

[next onyx]

The part that fucks me up the most is seeing the fg42's reload in the bf5 beta.

It was originally an under handed reload and seeing it makes me feel things I shouldn't.

[arctic grove]

I’ve always thought the GALIL was meh coming from my personal opinion of the gun at least aesthetically….. don’t kill me

[spare depot]

but yeah those BF4 soldiers sling around snipers and LMGs the exact same as the tiny SMGs

[next onyx]

You better start running.

You can't be mean to my galil!!!

[latent widget]

dont worry I promise the next battlefield game will be off the rocker great

[next onyx]

Nah in seriousness.

Squad has some really interesting weapons.

[latent widget]

free dlc and payed dlc incoming

[arctic grove]

I suppose I did like the black ops 1 galil tbh

[latent widget]

for next bf game

[arctic grove]

I guess it was something about the animations for it

[next onyx]

MDR, AUG, AKM, Alpha AK, M110K, ETC.

Yeah that gun was a literal LMG.

[eager spire]

yeah but you had to tap fire with LMG's more because they had more spread than AR's did.

Which is something that BF2042 lacks, which is why you get beamed from over 100 meters away literally all of the time

[next onyx]

It was a fat clanky mechanical piece of black steel.

[spare depot]

even the portal guns have way less recoil than in their original titles

full auto people to death 70 meters away with the a91

[eager spire]

i don't remember how much recoil Bad Company 2 and BF3 weapons have.

[next onyx]

Portal guns have been melded to fit into the 2042 metagame.

[eager spire]

but they certainly don't have the spread they used to because 2042's gunplay seems to have removed all aspects of spread from it

because

reasons

[next onyx]

If you want a well balanced portal gun use the AEK.

[latent widget]

guys just end me now

[next onyx]

Did you stub your toe.

[latent widget]

no

just end me

[arctic grove]

No

[spare depot]

i will say bipod LMGs dont seem nearly as effective in this game

[arctic grove]

You’re here to suffer with us forever

[latent widget]

not a chance

im out

bye

[eager spire]

okay

[acoustic seal]

you don't need a bipod for anything when engineer crouching accuracy is near 100%

[eager spire]

bye i guess

[arctic grove]

Alright im just gonna use this rpk 74 from now on

this thing feels great for being a vault weapon'

[acoustic seal]

wish they'd remove bipods entirely

we don't need to give people an incentive to be on the floor 200m away from a fight

[eager spire]

i wish they'd remove proning.

[next onyx]

Yeah the lmgs have weird spread.

Well.

[arctic grove]

I wish theyd remove the ability to spawn tanks on top of buildings so people can put a trophy system infront of it and play like pusses

[next onyx]

For the m240 and the type 88.

[eager spire]

also that

[dry basin]

Is the game crashing for anyone else on console?

[eager spire]

to be honest a lot of things need to be removed

[next onyx]

No crashes here.

[acoustic seal]

btw this only works because irish APS is insanely busted

[arctic grove]

Also

just get rid of stranded

[eager spire]

because Irish was designed for a game where Tanks did not have APS

[next onyx]

Dozer with the aek is pretty fun.

[eager spire]

I still want to know who at DICE was like "You know what? Fuck tanks. We don't need to give them APS before the game launches."

[next onyx]

Almost as if the game was rushed.

[acoustic seal]

they were probably mad about getting outplayed in bf4 tbh

[next onyx]

We all know the game was rushed to hell.

[eager spire]

Like I wanna know who said that and i wanna know what the thought process was behind that decision.

[arctic grove]

im sick and tired of coming out of spawn to find a little fucking pussy ass bitch who is concerned about their K/D so theyre just gonna sit there the whole game and kill people the whole game not even go for objectives like a bunch of little rats

[spare depot]

the self-repair system seems like a balanced alternative to APS if you dont play very aggressively in tanks

[next onyx]

It's annoying not having the repair station but the aps is better 70 to 80% of the time.

[latent widget]

Dice's new A.I> OVERLORD COMPUTER IS TAKING NOTES AND DATA FROM THIS PRE_ALPHA GAME

[arctic grove]

Look if youre spawning tanks ontop of buildings and putting trophy systems infront of the tanks and just sniping with tanks

[next onyx]

If it weren't for lis I would be against an aps. But that's just... that.

[arctic grove]

Look if they want people to play like a bunch of pussies just add mobile artillery

[next onyx]

Sit in tor on Caspian border and snipe everything.

[eager spire]

Lis shouldn't exist

[next onyx]

No vehicles.

[gritty tapir]

irish aps blocking almost any anti tank rocket is cringe. had a guy using a mav in rush xl have the aps block anything that could hit him

[eager spire]

at all. she's one of those concepts that should've been scrapped before being put in the game.

[arctic grove]

honestly

make it like IRL

a javalin will blow your shit sky high IRL

[next onyx]

But aps say no.

[spare depot]

its nice that your gunner can sometimes destroy lissiles

[arctic grove]

Ima start calling them lissiles now

I heard that before but that’s a funny little meme name

[gritty tapir]

lissiles 😩

[arctic grove]

also

why arent there critical spots on the tanks

[next onyx]

Lizzles

[arctic grove]

i feel like if i hit it in the engine why am i not doing more damage to it?>

[spare depot]

they eliminated weak spots by the year 2042

[latent widget]

They eliminated critical thinking by the year 2042.

[gritty tapir]

the part damage does seem quite random, had a few times my tracks were blown off but never been able to replicate it

[arctic grove]

its stupid

If I hit you in your engine cause youre playing like a moron and you have your back exposed its only fair that I do twice as much damage

[next onyx]

Reminds me when the 88c could critically hit tanks so you could destroy them in one articulated strafe.

[gritty tapir]

yeah sucks that flanking doesnt matter except getting the first shot off, its my impulse to face my front towards the enemy still

[next onyx]

But then they increase the damage of the shells and removed its critical hit multiplier.

[arctic grove]

Its what ever though

[next onyx]

Two hit killing valentines was fun.

I always smoke and plant c4.

[arctic grove]

Battle fields not meant to be played like squad where a rocket launcher will ruin your day

[latent widget]

ok then lets go battlefield 1842

[royal swan]

Or staying alive for a long questionable amount of time despite being hammered

[latent widget]

Battlefield COLD WAR

[gritty tapir]

hot take but they shouldve separated the countermeasures on planes and helis

[arctic grove]

All im saying is that its fucking trash game design that I can hit someone twice with javalin and all they gotta do is pop smoke and go behind hills repair them self come back rinse and repeat

[royal swan]

Hot take, remove auto repair or the vehicle instant repair ability

[arctic grove]

Tank mains are little bitches

and they fucking know it

Javalin says bye bye to t-90 IRL

[royal swan]

Vehicles should be glass cannons, LIKE WHAT THEY USED TO BE

[next onyx]

You mean bf5 tanks.

?

Where the guy behind it thought that peak tank gameplay was firing shells from hundreds of metres away?

[royal swan]

Bf5 had a fucked vehicle system. I won't count it

[latent widget]

just vibe in the battlefield void of despair until november 2024

[next onyx]

Tanks were never glass cannons.

They've always been anchors.

[royal swan]

They are compared to bf2042

[gritty tapir]

aircraft should be if they get hit by a unguided recoiless

[royal swan]

Tanks in 2042 are just juggernauts

Same with transport helis

[astral sky]

Yea they need an inbetween

[gritty tapir]

nothing will be as bad as the artillery truck from bf1

[arctic grove]

I mean if anything it takes equal rockets to kill a tank in any BF from 4, 1 and 2042. It’s always between 4-5 rockets sometimes 3 if the tank is already damaged. Don’t quote me on that

[next onyx]

I don't mean to sound disingenuous but I've never experience a tank on an older title as a glass cannon.

They can be easily just as destroyed by a crap tank commandeer.

[royal swan]

Well we got the Tor to par with it

[arctic grove]

They’re already super annoying to play though because lissiles. And completely unpredictable Sundance flanks

What more in between does there genuinely need to be lol

[next onyx]

Reminds me there was this one tilted sundance that tried to blow up my tor because I blew up their stealth chopper.

[eager spire]

Sundance and Lis are widely used because there aren't many other good vehicle counters in this game.

[arctic grove]

Tanks are in the worst spot in 2042 of any BF when it comes to 128 being a thing anyways. 2 tanks for a 64p team with clunky controls and Lissiles to really fuck with you

[gritty tapir]

well the tor is only useful against pilots who get too low or other vehicles, its quite useless against infantry imo

[next onyx]

Yeah the tor is pure anti vehicle.

Not infantry.

[arctic grove]

Like what’s the easiest way to melt a tank as lis?

[royal swan]

Tanks in past experiences were easy or not so challenging to kill solo (except bf5 because their vehicle system was ass and skill gapped)

[gritty tapir]

pray your team mates also target the tank so you can get the last shot and the kill

[next onyx]

An assault could fully destroy a medium with their entire arsenal.

Oh wait is that the wrong clip.

Aw shit.

[gritty tapir]

ayo?

[next onyx]

Just the commentary in it.

Lol.

[royal swan]

Was it by surprise

[next onyx]

If by tnt if you got close sorta.

But the PIAT did massive damage.

[gritty tapir]

mackay and c5, ez clap if a tank doesnt see you coming

[next onyx]

40 to the sides, 50 to the engine.

You can so easily lob multiple rockets.

[arctic grove]

It would also be nice if we didn’t have players like Chris angel who are cock suckers and when they get the little bird they don’t give 2 shits about anything other than their LD

[royal swan]

Taking a tank by surprise is a flaw on the player's skill, but anything head on like using the jav, recoilless, lis rockets. All pointless without a decent sizable squad

[next onyx]

Could you calm down a bit dude.

[arctic grove]

who’s Chris angel

[next onyx]

Yeah that's always been the general gist with anti tank.

[latent widget]

ok ok ok, who is ready for the rtx 5090

[next onyx]

You always need a sizeable squad or a few shooters onto a tank to destroy it.

[royal swan]

Even if you got their health down to a fucking slither or pixel, in a matter of seconds it 80% full

[royal swan]

Usually when that tank is supported with allies

But even a solo tank can deal with a squad easily due to the health and instant repair

[next onyx]

It's always been a thing no matter what.

Usually you only solo a tank when you get close with mines or a sticky explosive.

Tanks have always been that though.

I do agree the gun stations push it a bit.

[royal swan]

They never had instant repair like 2042

[next onyx]

Bf1 bf5 Tanks had it too.

[royal swan]

Not as powerful

[next onyx]

Infact 2042's instant repair is weaker.

Yeah about that.

In bf1 and 5 it resorted 35 health instantly.

In 2042 is sort of uh, juices up the repair rate for a quick second?

That's the best way I can describe it.

[idle lion]

rorsch sniper user 🤮

[next onyx]

Meaning if someone hits you you'll lose the heal.

[gritty tapir]

just gib me my sabot rounds so i can out duel other tanks

[next onyx]

In bf5 you'll be dealing with 130 to 135 health tanks and planes as a result unless you can kill them near instantly.

[royal swan]

Bf1 gets an excuse due to how most tanks required skill to use

[next onyx]

E.g corsair 1 c with the 6 hmgs swooping down into a zero and tearing it down

[gritty tapir]

we should be able to hit tank tracks and immobilize them for a few seconds especially since the tanks have side skirts

[next onyx]

Infact I think the corsair 1c is the fastest killing plane.

Bf1 tanks were so easy.

[arctic grove]

Only if it’s not that common, the idea of this always happening whenever you hit the tracks is just gonna get annoying

[next onyx]

A complete disable is bs.

It's so random.

There's no way to counter it.

[gritty tapir]

nah, itll have to be a well placed shot, risk missing by aiming for the tracks or go for the main body

[arctic grove]

RNG gameplay is probably not the best move yea

[next onyx]

Ironically I say random as in random player aim not game game rng but in a way yeah that is.

[arctic grove]

I honestly don’t think it takes much to aim at the tracks of a moving or still tank though just cause they’re big and not very fast

[royal swan]

What are you talking about, most bf1 tanks were terrible at combat unless it had a full squad.

[gritty tapir]

the tracks are already a small ass target that will require a deal of aim and the only thing that would work is like the recoiless since the javelin locks on

[royal swan]

The only good ones were the arty truck and mortar tank

[next onyx]

In my experience a solo tank player didn't need gunners because they were so overwhelmingly strong.

Only tank that needed squad play was the landslip.

Landship

[muted ocean]

Can someone tell me the game size (ps5)

[next onyx]

70 gigs.

[gritty tapir]

a7v camping was aids

[royal swan]

The bf1 tanks are so easily flanked

[muted ocean]

Isn’t it like 120ish?

[next onyx]

No 120.

[gritty tapir]

a shame since the mark 4 is the best looking tank of ww1

[next onyx]

It's 70 to 80.

[arctic grove]

Nope, definitely not 120

[eager spire]

i've had issues dealing with tanks in BF1, but that's mostly because those people were just hanging out behind their team and shooting at objectives.

[next onyx]

Auto cannon light tank, a7v in the distance, etc.

[arctic grove]

You might be thinking of BFV which clocks like, 105-110 on my ps5?

[muted ocean]

I just need to know how much space I will need 😀

[arctic grove]

72 gigs for me on PS5

[royal swan]

Shit like arty trucks and mortar tanks

[gritty tapir]

field guns were so satisfying to use against tanks, wish we had some buildable defenses in bf2042

[next onyx]

Well it's 70 to 80 gigs we can't give you an exact number.

[muted ocean]

Thanks!

[royal swan]

Anything that made an offensive was so easy to take out

[next onyx]

There you go 72 gigs.

Just sit at distance with a cannon that has a stupidly large kill blast range.

You've won the game.

[acoustic seal]

73gb + tax for the shader cache of up to ~4gb

[royal swan]

A few anti tank nades and small anti tank nades and that shit is dead

[gritty tapir]

not even talking about damage but the recoiless does not feel satisfying to score a hit with, the anti tank rocket in bf1 felt way more satisfying

[royal swan]

And if it's still alive damn well it's disabled to a point of utter uselessness

So many ways to kill bf1 tanks that even a single stationary cannon can do the trick

[next onyx]

Don't think disabling had mattered since BFH.

[royal swan]

Bf1 disabling was tough on tanks

[arctic grove]

Wat does bfh mean

[royal swan]

From removing uses of some turrets

To removing the ability to move

[gritty tapir]

Hardline

[next onyx]

Ok nvm it has changed as a whole.

Basically in bfh if your vehicle was on 20< health it would catch fire and eventually be destroyed.

That was old battlefield disable.

In bf1 it was replaced with mobility kills which nice I guess but even if they get away as you said, they still have a chance to live.

[eager spire]

Also, Hardline had RPG's as pickups only, you only had a grenade launcher if you played Mechanic, i think.

[royal swan]

Bfv just made the disabled mechanic more annoying than effective

[next onyx]

They were essentially unchanged between the games.

[royal swan]

I would love a return to harsher disabled mechanics

[next onyx]

I don't see what makes bf1's disable different over bf5's.

[royal swan]

Oh the disabled mechanic on bf1 planes made them a struggle

You can't move when repairing

[next onyx]

On planes it was a completely different case yes.

Though on tanks it was essentially unchanged.

[royal swan]

So you gotta plan before repair or you'll crash to the ground

[next onyx]

My favourite oversight was when the blenheims quick repair also functioned as a field repair.

[royal swan]

I don't even believe the 2042 disabling feature is even annoying, it's just there

[next onyx]

It's there but it's also not.

Track disable is a complete disable for some reason.

[gritty tapir]

Now having repairable health and max health would be neat so that vehicles can’t just sit and pop the repair ability

[royal swan]

Part of the reason I said previous battlefield vehicles are glass cannons

[next onyx]

I don't understand though because the complete disable and other weird shit makes 2042's tanks inferior to something like 3s or 5s.

In bf3 they were fast and powerful but required an actual degree of skill.

Hell in bf5 despite the playstyle required, they're stronger than this games.

Don't need to reply ping I'm right here by the way.

[edgy oriole]

https://tenor.com/view/dr-disrespect-gif-18597083

[rustic mango]

Wastup

[next onyx]

Yes.

[royal swan]

How, they are outmatched by ammo count, reload time, speed, control, health, and being disabled more

[latent widget]

technology

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[gritty tapir]

speaking of disables, playing in portal, the ww2 tanks get disabled almost instantly lol

[royal swan]

Give a bf5 tank the same stats as a bf2042 tank with some changes appropriate to the type of tank, it would dominate their bf5 counterpart

[rustic mango]

When Evant on battlefield 2042

[royal swan]

But bf5 is a terrible comparison anyways due to the attrition feature

[next onyx]

I'll talk as if you're on about both.

On bf3 they had unlimited shells and were highly customisable. You could go for faster reload speed but there was other options to go for. At did right about the same too but with directional damage you could min Max the damage. They were the fastest in the series.

Bf5's could carry 20 to 30 shells with 8 to 12 special rounds. Their speed is probably a bit slower? But their accel is round about the same. Same min Max strats. Though this is about mediums.

Attrition was bad for tanks yeah.

I don't disagree there.

[royal swan]

It would be more preferred to compared bf2042 to bf3

[next onyx]

You didn't specify so I didn't have much to go off.

Bf3's were much faster and even with customisable reload speeds, there were other options like reactive arnour which enhanced survival.

Which if I remember correctly.

[gritty tapir]

yes, you can even customize bf3 tanks in portal

[next onyx]

Even with the armour piercing shells you'd need 5 shells on an opposing tanks engine with reactive engine.

Bf3s customisation was a bit different.

Reactive engine?

I mean armour.

Fuuuck reactive armour was crazy.

[royal swan]

We are talking about all tanks

Like the Tor and the generic team tank

[next onyx]

I wouldn't really look at the TOR since that's more in line with a td over an mbt.

[royal swan]

How easy was killing a bf3 tank

[gritty tapir]

tor seems quite usesless outside of the superiority game mode tbh

[plain hamlet]

11 april

[mortal socket]

Playing rush doesn't give xp?

[next onyx]

Not very.

Your best bet at overwhelming it in one go was with the AT heli or a jet.

[mortal socket]

It wasnt

[plain hamlet]

Destroying tanks is pretty easy, yet in maps like in hourglass they’re insufferable

[mortal socket]

You had an armor that could absorb the dmg

[next onyx]

Reactive armour which could nullify damage.

Not could.

Would.

[latent widget]

Me waiting until November 2024, until the true next gen Battlefield game.

[gritty tapir]

next bf game better not have the russian faction

[royal swan]

So nearly equal playing field for bf3 and bf2042, but that's tank to tank combat

[plain hamlet]

give me a bf that doesn’t revolve around america again

[next onyx]

2042 is extremely lenient in how tanks can be handled.

[gritty tapir]

we got that for like the first half of bf5

[latent widget]

what we asking for the next game further future, present game, a more stylized future game, a cold war gone hot game?

[plain hamlet]

yeah, ig that’s an exception tho due to history

but any bf in the future should be a lil more creative

[royal swan]

If the bf3 tank had zero upgrades on, how easy would it be

Just straight up default bf3 tank

[gritty tapir]

i mean it seemed like thats what they wanted to do with 2042 with the whole specialist thing, seems like they just threw in the us and ru for the sake of it

[next onyx]

You'd still have to contend with free fire rockets but considering the same tanker most likely be just as easy.

[royal swan]

Like how many javs would it take to kill a bf3 tank

I know it takes about three to kill a 2042 tank

[plain hamlet]

why even give opposing forces a country when it doesn’t make sense with specialist

[gritty tapir]

soflam should be encouraged more, ive yet to see the javelin do a top attack

[plain hamlet]

i actually like the specialists since they changed the class system again, but like, why do you have the same specialist if ur joining both russia and us

[gritty tapir]

exactly, specialists kinda defeat the feel of actual factions

[royal swan]

Javs in 2042 are a joke compared to the past, the lock on is so fucking slow

[gritty tapir]

it just feels like a bunch of mercs fighting

[plain hamlet]

like give me either countries, or give me specialists, now it doesn’t make much sense

hell just make merc factions then

like the one in russia

[royal swan]

And the feel disconnected with the launcher, like the lockon isn't a part of the weapon

[hot bridge]

All I see are facts in here 😂

[plain hamlet]

and maybe have each faction connected to a specialist

so u can only play that specialist if ur at the faction

[gritty tapir]

even cod did it better with separating the different characters, albeit no one had special abilities

[left badge]

well then what if you main a specialist but they arent in that faction, should you just leave the match till you find the specialist you want?

[plain hamlet]

no, time to learn different specialists from each faction

[left badge]

but nothings stopping you from leaving

[plain hamlet]

except that that’s lame

and ur wasting ur time

[royal swan]

I want every lockon launcher to have a different but similar lockon animations

[next onyx]

Then don't make a system that wastes peoples time.

[left badge]

theres no reason why you couldnt just leave the match and rejoin till you get the specialist you want

[next onyx]

That reminds me.

The new mode might have a specialist lock like squad conquest.

Where one of a certain specialist per squad.

[plain hamlet]

i’m just trying to think of a way to make factions and specialists make sense lmao

and not having ur specialist change sides every fight

[next onyx]

I'd be up for making faction locked cosmetics.

Or cosmetics that have a different shade on the opposing side.

[left badge]

yes that

thats great

[plain hamlet]

yeah so u can actually identify who is what

[royal swan]

Fuck cosmetics I want the ability to not see anyone's cosmetics so I don't get confused on which team they're on

[plain hamlet]

the amount of times i waste an entire magazine on a friendly cause the blue dot is almost invisible above their head lmao

[left badge]

its even worse when you need glasses and dont wear them because glasses and headphones are just difficult

[next onyx]

I realised that when I shooting at "rocks" in bf5.

The Germans are in the rocks!

[plain hamlet]

godamn camo

[left badge]

THEYRE IN THE GODDAMN ROCKS

[royal swan]

Bf5 cosmetics were a pain