#battlefield-2042

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chilly jacinth
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The dog follows you around

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And shoots at people

limber orbit
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i wanna be able to pet doggo

copper ice
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Crawford turret is like a sideways Irish barricade

radiant prism
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it can be commanded too

copper ice
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just don't use the actual gun on it

chilly jacinth
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It's shitty cover

keen sphinx
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I command you to put yourself in the bin robo dog

copper ice
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yeah, Crawford sucks

hushed plinth
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Crawford mini gun is at least decent in a hallway

copper ice
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but boris is literally useless

hushed plinth
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I just want m5 and c4 together

copper ice
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theyre the worst two specs in the game imo and they're the only ones with access to launchers, i love dice

spiral folio
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"Why's everyone use lis when they play engineer"
Why ask that

copper ice
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i would trade either of their dogshit fucking turrets for any other gadget in the game in a heartbeat

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make it randomised idc it would still be better

hushed plinth
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Id take m5 over the tv missile

spiral folio
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Id trade the repair tool for anything

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2 shots for the whole battle vs unlimited. Makes sense

copper ice
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there's a lot of situations where id take m5 over tv missile and i still think m5 is ass

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launchers in 2042 are in horrible condition

hushed plinth
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I really don’t care about anti air

fervent rose
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m5 is better than tv missile but all launchers are a joke compared to c5 and mines

hushed plinth
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Liz can’t kill a hind so why bother

spiral folio
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Even with how nerfed the lis is, its still better

copper ice
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tv missile would be 1000x better with a dumbfire option

spiral folio
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Maybe yours cant

fervent rose
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launchers were clearly balanced for 128, they were afraid of 64 gustavs

hushed plinth
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It takes 3 shot to kill a hind

spiral folio
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If you exit the lis it goes off on its own

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3! XD

copper ice
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It doesn't let you do that until a couple of moments have passed

spiral folio
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More like 5 in reality

copper ice
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Gets you killed if you're trying to rocket a tank while moving

hushed plinth
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And tv is garbage against ground vehicles

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And you can snipe people with m5

limber orbit
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i would use a missile and not a tv

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not even a 80 inch tv is enough

spiral folio
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I can hit enemy snipers with the lis even post nerf

copper ice
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i would love to be paid to make bad decisions

fervent rose
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they just buffed the reload speed with their "animation changes"

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dunno why they dont tell people that its 1 second faster

hushed plinth
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I prefer a dumbfire one so i don’t have to stand still for 10s

copper ice
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1 second? Lmao

fervent rose
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but still, even 1 second faster gustav isnt enough dps

limber orbit
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only 1 what even

copper ice
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5.5! We're living on easy street now baby

limber orbit
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blowing shit up

copper ice
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6.5 seconds to 5.5 seconds

dapper river
copper ice
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This is still insanely long

fervent rose
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and you should spawn in with more or have a bigger max

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the launcher balance sucks

copper ice
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anything related to vehicles in 2042 sucks

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especially interaction between vehicles and infantry

fervent rose
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except their ability to run rampant

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they gud at that

hushed plinth
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The best aa is a stupid rail tank and the best way to kill a ground vehicle is c4

copper ice
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as much as i hate their eternal life i do also think it's stupid you spawn with 3 c5

fervent rose
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theres no fort boxes, they had to do that

hushed plinth
copper ice
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but i guess you need 3 c5 because there's no anti tank nade or other gadget option for minor tank damage because lol specialists

hushed plinth
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You die if you’re being an idiot

dapper river
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C5 to destroy a vehicle is risk/reward, it must stay the way it is. cool_guy

hushed plinth
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It’s ridiculous that the cav brawler can’t be killed by 3 c4

fervent rose
copper ice
fervent rose
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the regular frag does a fair amount but the fuse time lets tanks get away from it

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regular frag does like ~10

dapper river
copper ice
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which makes tanks just not go near people, which means they just farm from a distance

fervent rose
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EMP grenade also

magic bloom
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We finally have a vehicle that can fight with infantry

copper ice
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EMP nade is so fucking stupid

fervent rose
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emp grenade/c5 combo keeps tanks scared

hushed plinth
keen sphinx
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Helicopter users suck the biggest dick they think they good what they trash need vehicles to kill someone e 199 HP hahaha

hushed plinth
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That thing is fast as well

copper ice
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it doesn't hurt vehicles or stop their movement so it doesn't actually confirm kills because they just fuck off but it leaves them massively irritated and leaves you massively irritated because you probably are now dead from your failed c5 rush

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2042 is full of things that are annoying and dont confirm kills

next onyx
copper ice
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which makes the game feel like ass

magic bloom
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The CAVs armor is paper when it fights tanks and missile

copper ice
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lis being the only spec in the game with c5/mines and a launcher sucks ass when she cant dumbfire and it cant lock to soflam

pliant nexus
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Hmm, recon + marksman or engineer + markman?

fervent rose
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its just funny how they make getting close to enemies an assured death, but also make the tanks slow

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so of course people just dont go near people and snipe with the tank from out of bounds

copper ice
keen sphinx
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Likendo ppl forget to hold points

hushed plinth
pliant nexus
keen sphinx
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Like fr why push enemy spawn to vcapture it then run away your just coming ur team to lose

copper ice
magic bloom
copper ice
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even bfv had speedy tanks

fervent rose
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have you ever done the reverse into mine layer bolte attack its funny

next onyx
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Buff Boris to hold extra explosives, change his turret to always be activated and only target vehicles. Make it a genuinely decent prickler.

fervent rose
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meme level but it can work

copper ice
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reverse bolte is safer because no windows

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genius design

next onyx
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I would unironically play as Boris for those rockets and a sentry that'll prick everything.

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Not infantry tho.

fervent rose
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i'd play boris on defense if the launcher balance wasnt a joke

hushed plinth
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I only play boris because of the m5

magic bloom
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Also the CAV’s main gun has almost no AOE unlike the MAV that can have the Mortar pod

fervent rose
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i have more success killing vehicles as mackay

hybrid totem
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because the CAV is a true transport, not a tank people can spawn on

copper ice
hushed plinth
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I’d rather deal with a mav because i can actually kill it

pliant nexus
copper ice
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i have my most success killing vehicles with any recon because they have beacons and c5

magic bloom
hushed plinth
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And i hate the completely silent beacons

next onyx
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M16 the best all kit assault rifle ironically.

frank sequoia
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Would like a commando m16

fervent rose
copper ice
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they should just make boris turret shoot 40mm AP

next onyx
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Because you spawn with 217 | 30 +1 rounds.

magic bloom
next onyx
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I remembered an old friend from here not him hah.

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Ugh i hope he's ok.

hushed plinth
fervent rose
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c5+scar is the vehicle killer loadout

copper ice
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sfar or svk fit better

fervent rose
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for me at least

copper ice
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svk is my favourite vehicle stomper ❤️

keen sphinx
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Idk what yall say if u standing next to someone like legit 1ft away fkn receive them if u can di t be that dude

copper ice
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because for some reason one of the only 3 guns in the game with access to the anti vehicle grenade launcher is the longest range gun that isnt a sniper

magic bloom
hybrid totem
hushed plinth
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But i don’t actively hunt for vehicles I just do it when i come across one

next onyx
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Stroke.

magic bloom
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Fr

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Im currently dying

copper ice
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why isn't 40mm ap on more guns

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put it on everything

magic bloom
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Way can we play again sometime

next onyx
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The m320 has good vehicle damage to compensate.

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Yeah for sure.

copper ice
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give the shotgun the 40mm ap

next onyx
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I'm just giving things a break.

magic bloom
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Yeah

next onyx
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I need catch up with everything.

copper ice
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give the shotgun AP buckshot

hushed plinth
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Short guns are just sad

magic bloom
keen sphinx
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@hybrid totem ngl I don't even know how to send a chat haha

magic bloom
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Although they do make APDS shotgun shells

hybrid totem
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ENTER/RETURN

copper ice
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let me put AP ubgl on the glock

next onyx
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Ugh what am I kidding I'm not gonna catch up I'll just read and wait till the morning to get an inhaler because I'm having difficulties breathing.

keen sphinx
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@hybrid totem fair enough haha imma be toxic now thank you @hybrid totem

next onyx
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It's nice going back to the scar purely because it's an assault rifle that dies it's job.

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Does.

naive quiver
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Is there much a difference between WD850x and Samsung 980 pro

copper ice
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the lack of interesting attachments on the secondary weapons is actually really disappointing

next onyx
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The chemist is closed and the one I have on hand is empty.

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Uh.

magic bloom
copper ice
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interesting things!

next onyx
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I have a regular 980 and it's doing me really well.

magic bloom
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Like what

runic tulip
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I hope DICE will fix the stuttering aiming issue on last gen consoles.

And Crawford turret bug

fervent rose
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shorty 500 anti vehicle HEAT slug

magic bloom
next onyx
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I've heard 980 pros are a monster.

copper ice
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the closest we have to interesting is the 4x scope on the revolver

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and it's not even a nice scope

next onyx
fervent rose
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revolver velocity sucks ass

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fuck m44

magic bloom
copper ice
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its not even a nice revolver it feels awful

glacial quarry
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sfar mid

copper ice
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i miss the webley

next onyx
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980 is an ssd type.

copper ice
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webley and heavy melee come back to me baby

magic bloom
next onyx
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980 pro is a faster variant over the base.

copper ice
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i miss you so bad

hushed plinth
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980 has some issues

fervent rose
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m27 and markvi in bfv were so much better than the revolvers we got in 2042

next onyx
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The Rex and webley in game are identical.

runic tulip
next onyx
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Probably just started to notice it more.

copper ice
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my issue with the rex is that it's a portal gun and it's not got a 35 drum mag

hushed plinth
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Just google 980 pro 0e

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It’s just a horror story

copper ice
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i could run the rex but i may as well shoot myself in the foot

magic bloom
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I started playing on old gen consoles and the aiming was always fucky

copper ice
fervent rose
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rex is definitely usable, i just dont like how it handles in ADS compared to bfv

runic tulip
copper ice
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it's got really ugly irons

fervent rose
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portal guns have some shit visual recoil going on

next onyx
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Could become an mp28 main for a little bit.

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Cause the mp28 is pretty decent as is.

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Ads bang bang bang.

magic bloom
next onyx
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Fuck you thumb twitch you cannot stop me.

copper ice
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revolver has to have nice visual recoil or it just feels so bad to use

runic tulip
fervent rose
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mp28 in a world without glock would be considered absurd

copper ice
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webley looked beautiful

fervent rose
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but the g57 comes in and curbstomps it

copper ice
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rex makes me feel motion sickness

next onyx
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Shotgun.

magic bloom
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To be fair all a revolver has over an auto pistol is round power

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And a better trigger if you cock the hammer

hushed plinth
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The glock probably has a pretty good multi kill potential

copper ice
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the glock is literally one of the best smgs in the game

fervent rose
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the glock has fantastic squad wipe potential

copper ice
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for some reason it's in the secondary slot

hushed plinth
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I probably have the highest multi kill on a glock

next onyx
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Rex has the fastest follow up shot potential but if you miss a single shot you're fucked.

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As in.

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Uh.

magic bloom
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Yes

next onyx
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I was thinking of shotgun which is one shot and then reeee

copper ice
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257 rof on a 2 hit kill gun is not shabby at all, but it's like.. the svk does that already

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while the glock flat outperforms half the smgs

next onyx
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Basically if you get two of your shots off in a succession you effectively have the fastest killing handgun in the game. If you miss one you're fucked but that's the point no, high skill high reward.

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Just run SCAR if you like to actually aim.

magic bloom
fervent rose
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if your aim is on point rex is probably 2nd best

hushed plinth
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2 burst head shot for glock

copper ice
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glock also naturally headshots a ton because minor recoil causes it to mozambique

fervent rose
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but when 1 burst from the glock also can kill people, why use rex

spiral folio
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Rex is a letdown from older rex revolvers

next onyx
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Assuming both hit the head which it's possible yeah.

fervent rose
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ive got so many 1 burst kills on glock since they changed the hs multi

next onyx
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Oh yeah how they had a shit multiplier at first.

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Which was changed for some reason.

spiral folio
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Older renditions of the rex like in p4f itd 1 shot people

fervent rose
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changed after spearhead came out

hushed plinth
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The glock is probably more busted than the rm68

next onyx
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5hk g57 with no HS multiplier was horrible.

spiral folio
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The sight picture was also better in p4f than in this

copper ice
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burst pistol is clearly designed to reward accuracy

fervent rose
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it certainly does

magic bloom
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Yeah

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I just dont use the Glock except for in TDM

fervent rose
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the glock has been wildin out since that hs multi change

copper ice
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what do you mean you dont like being obliterated in 2 bullets from a 900rof burst pistol

fervent rose
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and it was already the best pistol

next onyx
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I didn't necessarily mind the damage at first cause I kind of asked Alex to do this many months prior (with a change to its burst) But then when i realised the massive potential just kinda... I feel partially guilty.

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So if you guys need a scape goat uhm. Send it my way I guess.

copper ice
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im hardly complaining i love the thing

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i just wish they cranked the revolvers up to match

hushed plinth
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I always just use the glock

fervent rose
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i am bored of it

hushed plinth
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I haven’t used any other pistols in 2042

copper ice
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we're in the near future wheres my 12 cylinder railgun revolver

magic bloom
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I feel like the MP28 would be cool with a slow firing full auto

next onyx
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Now we have the double burst p125 it's kind of whatever.

fervent rose
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but at this point fuck it, give me akimbo glocks

next onyx
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Just nerf the g57 to a 5hk.

edgy oriole
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ive always liked the precision glock better than the burst.

next onyx
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And then it'll be balanced.

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Oh the g17.

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900 rpm tap tap tap.

copper ice
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railgun revolver makes sense because the cylinder could spin when firing a shot

magic bloom
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Glock 17 go brrrrr

copper ice
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the rorsch is so ugly when it could have been a giant sexy revolver

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such a waste

next onyx
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I mean. If I had to assume the p125 was originally meant to become a railgun.

fervent rose
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they should buff the pf51 a bit

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gun was so good at first

next onyx
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6hk would be perfect.

magic bloom
hushed plinth
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I hate it when i forgot to change the glock to burst at the start of the round and get fucked over

next onyx
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It was a pocket p90 at first.

copper ice
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rule of cool

fervent rose
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ye it was definitely needing a nerf

next onyx
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Which was overwhelming but now it's useless.

fervent rose
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but they hit it hard

next onyx
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It was just funny with the quote my friend muttered.

copper ice
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i love dice balance

spiral folio
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P90 has a longer barrel so it kinda works out itd be more powerful

next onyx
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"Oh no I'm out of ammo with my p90 now to pull me other pocket p90 out of my ass"

royal swan
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Unlike other games

magic bloom
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5.7 is still coming out screaming even at that short of a barrel

next onyx
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Sorta?

fervent rose
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pepestarege quick?

spiral folio
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Well yea and no

magic bloom
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Quick?

hushed plinth
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Transport

fervent rose
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when did air vehicles get removed again from BT?

copper ice
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you have got to be kidding me

next onyx
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In some cases they are yeah.

fervent rose
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hind been op for like 6+ months

royal swan
next onyx
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We still have aerial transports rampaging.

royal swan
magic bloom
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5.7 is fast as fuck

fervent rose
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i certainly hope that is true

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"we have adjusted the hind's hp by 15%"

magic bloom
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It should have insane velocity out of the P90

edgy oriole
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imma buy a p50 soon

copper ice
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they occasionally release things in a drastically overpowered state that they nerf quickly yea, but that's not something that should be happening in the first place

edgy oriole
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already let alex know

magic bloom
hushed plinth
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I don’t think removing 50mm and 30mm is that hard

edgy oriole
next onyx
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I think Alex hates the mag.

fervent rose
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nobody likes removing game content that they worked on, though

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its a hard ask

magic bloom
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I think Alex hates making guns

hushed plinth
copper ice
fervent rose
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but they 100% gotta fix transport helis

next onyx
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It sucks to remove content but they need to do what's right.

next onyx
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They've already adjusted the base game this much.

copper ice
royal swan
next onyx
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Clearly they can go theextra mile.

royal swan
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Jets will have to wait for their rework

copper ice
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please god take the cannons off the jeeps as well

hushed plinth
copper ice
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no more Irish 30mm jeep camping

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im begging you

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just make it stop

next onyx
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I got the RM277 to 10k kills I no longer have to use it.

magic bloom
next onyx
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It feels liberating.

copper ice
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it shouldn't have taken a year to remove it

fervent rose
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god i love that asto

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doin the lord's work

copper ice
spiral folio
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5.7mm velocities
Ruger 5in 1600fps
P50 10in 2000fps
P90 16in 2300fps

royal swan
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Again removing content is harder than it seems

next onyx
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Might go get the m16 and ak to 5k.

fervent rose
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also i would have considered driving it all the way out to helipad and off the cliff

magic bloom
spiral folio
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Yea the muzzle energy is slightly lower than 9mm because 40gr bullet

magic bloom
fervent rose
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true

copper ice
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I appreciate removing stuff is hard, but dont put things that need to be removed in game /shrug

magic bloom
magic bloom
copper ice
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it takes 5 minutes to think of 50 different reasons why transport vehicles do not need cannons and will actively be used for makeshift artillery instead of transporting

royal swan
spiral folio
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Its also interesting adding 2x barrel for 5 inches more adds 20% velocity

Adding another 5+ inches adds about 12% more velocity

if you added another 5" it might slow it down

magic bloom
copper ice
fervent rose
copper ice
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I HATE THIS STUPID GAME

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THE FUCKING APS IS BEHIND THE BARRICADE TOO

fervent rose
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the fucked part is these people are playing it properly

copper ice
magic bloom
spiral folio
fervent rose
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this is the design

copper ice
spiral folio
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Its accurate af but loses velocity fairly quickly after the effective range

copper ice
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it is directly how the game is designed to encourage that

magic bloom
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I tried to destroy the APS but couldn’t

chilly jacinth
copper ice
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aps should so suffer from friendly fir

spiral folio
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So its more accurate at like 100m but it wint fly off and kill somebody 500m away

royal swan
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Casper is a good counter guys, he destroys equipment now with the drone

magic bloom
magic bloom
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It also breaks any gadget near it cause it has splash damage

chilly jacinth
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unfortunate that they removed c4 launching

fervent rose
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they would need physics to do that again

robust vapor
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emp nades also destroys equipment

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rip blasco

magic bloom
chilly jacinth
magic bloom
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Would’ve been gone

hybrid totem
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ah, the classic tactic of trolling your own team for not playing your way

hushed plinth
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They should’ve kept the hovercraft wall climb

copper ice
magic bloom
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Ok I’ll do it I’ll be the Casper who flys the drone all game like I used to do

copper ice
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you get the drone over, bust the aps, the irish jumps out of the jeep to shoot your drone and slaps it straight back down

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and your drone has a longer recharge time than 2 of irishes APS

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it's not practical

royal swan
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There is no reason to worry

copper ice
fervent rose
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the casper changes are really good but its also not very personally rewarding

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the entire irish aps tank thing just SUCKS to deal with

royal swan
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Casper is easy to use, if you get shot at then you got shot at, just wait and bring your drone up

copper ice
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give casper drone a drill so it can pierce into tanks and murder the driver

fervent rose
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its one of the dumbest things i have ever seen in a bf game, like it makes gas grenades look clever

hybrid totem
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I'm so glad you've discovered the most enjoyable way to play for everyone

copper ice
royal swan
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Don't make excuses that you can't counter them easily, when in fact it is really easy and you have a major skill issue

magic bloom
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I love playing the depressed not friendly ghost

copper ice
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this is assuming you actually got the drone over and succeeded in the first place

royal swan
fervent rose
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yea you cant shut down the intelligent irish, only the bad ones

royal swan
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They don't notice it at all

fervent rose
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lis missile does the same thing basically

royal swan
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They are more focused on other shit like kills

fervent rose
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doesnt counter good players, annihilates bad ones

magic bloom
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I feel like I found the motto of dps falcks “the healing is not as rewarding as the hurting”

royal swan
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Not some drone because they don't expect it

copper ice
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ok so your argument is "expect the enemy to be bad"

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what do i do if enemy is not bad

royal swan
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Chunky I'ma end with you suck at battlefield 2042

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It's so dumbfounding easy to use casper

potent trench
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man they need to tweak these NPC AI, these wallhacks are annoying

royal swan
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I have no idea how you struggle

copper ice
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well you see my issue is specifically that im asking what do i do if my enemy doesnt suck and you are just saying i suck instead of providing any ideas

copper ice
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its almost like there arent any counters to an irish that isnt bad or something

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thats so crazy

marble apex
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guys,can someone tell me the best settings for helicopter? i can't fly with the helicopter...

royal swan
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NO ONE HAS THE PERCEPTION OF A FLY, WE ARE SLOW

marble apex
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LOL

royal swan
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If you're drone gets shoot that's a skill issue on you for being so fucking visible and in their face

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Because that's the only reason they can counter a drone

spiral folio
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Use lis rocket as drone

magic bloom
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Use the stinger missile on the drone

spiral folio
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Well lis has a camera

copper ice
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its a turret on a stationary vehicle with no turncap and a wide fov, anyone with headphones will hear the drone in the first place but even assuming they are deaf anyone can literally just turn to the side for 0.2 seconds to check the aps and then go back to shooting

royal swan
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All you do is fly down and up

potent trench
# drowsy shuttle Da fuq?

Exactly what I said.
I'd be hiding in a bush on any maps, trying to get knife kills
people be going past me, and then an NPC AI just straight up shooting me from far away

royal swan
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It's a fly in emp and fly out, it's so quick that the enemy doesn't have enough time

copper ice
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if you see aps is gone you get out and slap another one down

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drone has to come back down to destroy it again

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you don't even need to leave the jeep to 30mm a drone that descends to kill aps

royal swan
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The drone is fast

fervent rose
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irish aps would be so much more balanced if it was a single use that only recharged after it is destroyed

royal swan
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Faster than enemy movement

fervent rose
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having a backup on demand is the problem

hybrid totem
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single use
Recharge after destruction

Pick one

fervent rose
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you never run out if you play smart

copper ice
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it's a good thing im not running to the drone to melee it to death, i have bullets

copper ice
chilly jacinth
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just emp the drone

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ez

royal swan
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Oh do I have to bring up the size of the drone

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In most cases you have so much time to escape

copper ice
#

no its a fucking nightmare shooting that thing and i complain about it being a horrible target constantly

fervent rose
#

@hybrid totem okay well you just want to nitpick, but im talking about going from 2 to 1, sorry if i didnt word it to your liking

drowsy shuttle
royal swan
copper ice
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but at the same time it has to be within 30m to emp and it takes a couple seconds to lock

hybrid totem
#

Oh my bad

single use
Recharge after destruction
reduce carry capacity

Pick one

royal swan
#

You are fast and small, the chances of dying is slim unless you are garbage terrible at using the drone

copper ice
#

30m is a hell of a lot easier to hit a drone at than 100m

chilly jacinth
#

its only hard to hit cause its lagging around

copper ice
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since irish has 2 backups thats ample time to hit the drone as well

royal swan
#

I do remember the mounted guns having angle restrictions

chilly jacinth
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wish they would fix it

royal swan
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So maybe fly ABOVE THE MOUNTED GUNS

fervent rose
#

irish hops out because hes parked safely out of bounds, and looks up

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strategy continues on

copper ice
#

thats not how to balance a game

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the casper cant even deliver on the aps being down either because recon gets no launchers

royal swan
#

Oh here's something, your drone has a EXTREMELY high chance to die to an enemy drone than bullets

chilly jacinth
#

fly into them at mach 69 with a jet

copper ice
#

you have to pull a friendly into using a launcher alongside

chilly jacinth
copper ice
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or respawn and swap class

royal swan
#

Most of the time bullet engagement with drones end up with the drone escaping

copper ice
#

this is also assuming there is only one APS and not two APS

royal swan
#

And when the drone loses a gun engagement it's mostly because the drone is afk and standing still

copper ice
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and that the irish does not notice it being destroyed and place another (and another, and another, and)

royal swan
#

They have cool down.

copper ice
#

so does the drone emp

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irish cooldown is low and it has 2 in reserve

royal swan
#

But the emp is faster than the cool down of equipment

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It's noticable fast

copper ice
#

thats 4 aps you have to get through before they're on full cooldown

royal swan
#

Your making up excuses

copper ice
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3 if we're being generous and they're using a barricade

royal swan
#

You have time to destroy the equipment and emp the vehicle before they place more aps

copper ice
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if i am an irish and my aps goes down i will probably initially assume a stray explosive got it

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if it goes down twice in quick succession i will start looking for drones

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all it takes is landing 2 shots on the drone at 30m and its down

magic bloom
#

I mean If the drone goes max height you cant hit it

royal swan
#

But the chances of you finding it is low and the chances of hitting it is lower

copper ice
#

if you emp the vehicle they KNOW there's a drone now

spiral folio
#

Mach 69 would probably make a sonic boom so powerful itd flatten trees for a mile out

royal swan
#

It's small and fast, your slow and big

copper ice
royal swan
#

Slow in player movement and perception, that drone is there and gone

copper ice
#

it has to come down to do anything other than spot

magic bloom
robust vapor
#

Emp drone isn't that bad

royal swan
#

You can't do jack shit without help of another player

copper ice
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i can look up and down pretty quickly

robust vapor
#

I got recently cooked by an EOD bot

royal swan
#

Your best chances if there is a friendly drone nearby to kill the enemy drone

copper ice
robust vapor
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And I became someone's lunch in the middle of the chaos

copper ice
#

even assuming casper drone is immortal and destroys all aps immediately it cant do any actual damage so the vehicle farming continues without another player to use a launcher

royal swan
fervent rose
#

yea you only take away their outer layer of shield

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not the most rewarding gameplay loop

copper ice
#

so you're sacrificing your entire play time to be vaguely annoying in the best case scenario?

copper ice
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even assuming everything goes perfectly you're still just a mosquito

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yeah I'm not really sure that classifies as a counter man

royal swan
#

Counters effectiveness

fervent rose
#

it works in a team, but like, imagine that they also have a team

copper ice
#

so it shoots 20% less

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and you're stuck in a drone for the entire duration

royal swan
#

More 80%

fervent rose
#

one passenger who hops out with an lmg can eliminate all drone threats

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easily

copper ice
#

this is more of a negative for your team than theirs even assuming 100% uptime of drone emp

royal swan
#

A drone can deny tank superiority

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And get it killed

copper ice
#

if you're assuming you have teammates you gotta assume the vehicle does too

royal swan
#

Its good on teamwork and easy to use

copper ice
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if the vehicles have a single person on foot the drone dies

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assuming they can look up

royal swan
#

The players around the tank don't know

fervent rose
#

even the driver can take care of most drone-APS situations

royal swan
#

They will only know if they look up

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But they don't

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Because they got other things to do

copper ice
#

anyone in the tank when it gets emped know it has been emped

royal swan
#

Like captures objective

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Get kills

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Or defend objectives

copper ice
#

tanks have multiple gunner positions for people who can just get out and look up

royal swan
#

Not if they are emped

copper ice
#

you can indeed get out of a tank after being emped

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people do it quite a lot

royal swan
#

Only moron does that

copper ice
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so only a bad player will counter your drone?

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this is an interesting angle to take

royal swan
#

Ah yes let's leave the tank to kill a drone, I bet no one will take advantage of that at all, it's totally not an idea a moron made up

arctic grove
#

Who shoots down drones

spiral folio
#

Enemies?

copper ice
#

who is going to take advantage of your drone emping? how on earth will your team know you're doing that?

fervent rose
#

i get out of MBTs often

drowsy shuttle
royal swan
arctic grove
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I’ve never shot down a drone

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Or even got my drone shot down

fervent rose
#

exiting tanks isnt a stupid idea if you know what you're doing

copper ice
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you're assuming one team is too dumb to know a drone exists even after being emped but the other team is full of geniuses that can see your speck of a drone emp a tank and immediately lay all snipers on the position to instakill anyone who hops out of the tank?

spiral folio
#

Left click fires. Be aimed at it

royal swan
fervent rose
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the only real risk is an ally stealing your tank, but most people are too slow or dont even care

royal swan
#

They target tanks near objectives

copper ice
spiral folio
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Yea short range drone cant emp a tank 150m+ away

copper ice
royal swan
copper ice
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sorry for ping asto

royal swan
#

Not all maps support camping vehicles

fervent rose
#

almost all of them do

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discarded is probably the worst for it. Maybe Orbital

drowsy shuttle
#

What you mean?

copper ice
royal swan
#

Exposure does have good camping areas but leaving the vehicle alone will not be so generous

fervent rose
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but most maps are mbt tank farms on breakthrough attack

shy forge
#

Need more choppers on breakthrough

copper ice
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there's almost no risk to leaving the vehicle to look up for a drone

royal swan
#

If we are talking about camping areas that give full protection from everything then those maps could be breakaway, discarded, and spearhead

spiral folio
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Yea spearhead like tank behind rocks, rocks hide the aps

fervent rose
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spearhead is easily one of the best tank farm maps

copper ice
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fuck spearhead

royal swan
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Oh and hourglass

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But those happen occasionally, most tanks go into combat which the drone effectiveness goes from annoying to nearly lethal

fervent rose
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but 2 tanks on attack + hind

copper ice
plush linden
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Add rabdom daytime at maps so we can play even at nighttime

glacial quarry
#

ya most of my 125+ kill games with tank is on spearhead offense

copper ice
#

if anything it actually hurts more to know it could so easily be balanced

fervent rose
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you can get 10kpm on the first 2 sectors of 128 spearhead

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easy

royal swan
#

Damn well there is a Sundance or Mackay that would love a easy tank kill, and a drone can give that

copper ice
glacial quarry
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128 BT?

fervent rose
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yea when it was in that event

glacial quarry
#

ah

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yeah

copper ice
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it's just the same as c5 and emp nade

glacial quarry
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probably

fervent rose
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totally busted

glacial quarry
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i have a 134-0 on hourglass too

copper ice
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more reason for tanks to not go up close

glacial quarry
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also insane tank farm map

royal swan
copper ice
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bad players will exist regardless

glacial quarry
royal swan
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Because the outcome in their favor gives them a win

copper ice
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they aren't good for arguments about balance

glacial quarry
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0 objective ribbons cos im bad

fervent rose
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the problems this game has are cheesy combos that good players exploit in ways that never existed before in other bf titles

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i tell you this because i exploit these cheesy combos

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its fucked

copper ice
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it doesn't mean it's going to work

royal swan
#

A camping tank may help in teamwork but it's outclassed by an aggressive up the face tank

fervent rose
#

you can place irish aps aggressively too

copper ice
#

apart from only one of those tank can die

fervent rose
#

takes maybe a third of a second

copper ice
#

it turns out if you are dead you are generally not helping very much

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aggressive aps feels absolutely horrible to play against

royal swan
#

A objective attacking tank if the game goes in their favor will give them an easy win

copper ice
#

that's a big if man

royal swan
#

That big if does happen

fervent rose
copper ice
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if that one newbie sprinting towards an obj filled with 40 people manages to solo all of them he gets an easy win too

fervent rose
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ive died doing it maybe twice

copper ice
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its just a big if

glacial quarry
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i play solid. neither camping nor aggressive

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its the best playstyle imo. aggressive is only the best if you have a good crew

royal swan
copper ice
glacial quarry
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i don't hop out a lot lol

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i hate dying to an M5 or lissle when getting back in

royal swan
#

If the tank is with a team that moves up to an objective, and that tank isn't taken care of, then it's a win

glacial quarry
#

usually it is tho

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so easy to emp nade and c5 a tank

royal swan
#

It's a bigger win if that tank is with a transport vehicle

arctic grove
#

When are we getting battlefield hardline 2

royal swan
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Or a second tank

glacial quarry
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i don't go first usually

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just play smart

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according to situation

copper ice
#

and moving up close makes a tank c5able, which increases the chance of it dying by an unbelievable percentage

glacial quarry
#

if it looks easy to push go for it

royal swan
copper ice
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launchers require multiple people to kill a tank even assuming it doesnt do anything to protect itself
c5 can be done by a single person

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that alone makes it drastically more likely to happen

glacial quarry
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https://youtu.be/P_W11NYdyA0 i have some gameplay here. sometimes i go aggressive, most of the time i sit behind but not far behind unless there are a LOT of rockets

royal swan
glacial quarry
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like at the end i went really aggressive

royal swan
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Or when no one expects it

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Once they see you they drive back and you die

copper ice
#

even if the tank expects it you cant always do anything about it or all tanks would push

glacial quarry
#

the successful ones usually come from behind or on top

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not the front

copper ice
#

if you're close enough you lose the opportunity to retreat

limber orbit
glacial quarry
#

usually obscured by smoke or when im disabled by emp/hack

glacial quarry
#

its actually the best a tank can do there. tunnel is quite useless

fervent rose
#

yea that angle is the best choice sadly

copper ice
fervent rose
#

new exposure layout sucks

glacial quarry
#

in that spot you can destroy defense team deep inside

copper ice
#

2042 has a lot of horrible meatgrinder chokepoints

glacial quarry
#

get like 5 kill nukes

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sometimes i shoot a HE shell to the right and get like 5-7 kills

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its ridiculous

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in the tunnel only the mortar gunner gets stuff to kill

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the tank doesnt

royal swan
#

It's funny no matter how hard those attacking vehicles camp they ain't winning the match on exposure, it's nearly a defending win every game

fervent rose
#

it's a poor layout

copper ice
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because its a meatgrinder

royal swan
#

It puts kaleidoscope layout in easy tier

copper ice
#

meatgrinder supports defence because irish exists

royal swan
#

C2 is a bitch on kaleidoscope

fervent rose
#

when we gonna get the rerework

copper ice
#

just make the top of the skyscraper count

#

i hate that dogshit map

#

horrible fucking obj

royal swan
copper ice
#

they made it WORSE?

royal swan
#

Big reason we removed it

fervent rose
#

no it was worse before

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128 player obj on a rooftop

copper ice
#

i literally cannot imagine it being worse

fervent rose
#

64 players on a roof my man

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holding elevators

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no fun

copper ice
#

wait was it only the roof and not also the ground

royal swan
#

It was impossible in every way imaginable

fervent rose
#

yes

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literally the dumbest shit u can think of

copper ice
#

ok thats the dumbest shit i ever heard

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holy fuck

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just make it BOTH

fervent rose
#

the rush layout still has that

royal swan
#

Thank god it's gone

fervent rose
#

but with 32 its less completely awful

copper ice
#

why the fuck would you put an obj at the top of a skyscraper with only 5 fucking entry points

#

these maps are so fucking bad

#

ARGH

fervent rose
#

i dont know how we went from devastation to hourglass

royal swan
#

At least breakaway is generous

copper ice
#

i miss devastation so fucking much

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breakaway is on my permanent shitlist from trading its mid BT layout to tank camping heaven

#

fuck that stupid iceberg

steel sleet
#

so i now rolled back ym graphics driver to a february driver... and the game still crashesa after like 10min in
idfk what todo anymore, ive reinstalled the game and rolled back graphics drivers

glacial quarry
#

i legit have a 100% winrate on exposure defense probably the last 30 games

fervent rose
drowsy shuttle
copper ice
#

air vehicles to take out the ground vehicles would be great if infantry could take out the air vehicles

fervent rose
#

sector 3 should give defenders air

royal swan
glacial quarry
#

its not C1

copper ice
#

unfortunately air vehicles are immortal so dice has cleverly decided to leave the ground vehicles totally without counters

glacial quarry
#

B1 for me lol

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i just drive a tank inside no one can get thru

copper ice
#

b1 and c1 are both fucking awful

fervent rose
copper ice
#

the first sector is actually fun

fervent rose
#

we should have some air assets on some of the maps

glacial quarry
#

transport heli is enough

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more than enough

copper ice
royal swan
steel sleet
copper ice
#

transport heli for attackers, give defenders an attack heli

royal swan
#

We have it but it's lame

copper ice
fervent rose
steel sleet
copper ice
#

woof

royal swan
#

First two sectors are vehicles only then it goes to air vehicle in the third

copper ice
#

defenders having attack helis would make lots of BT maps less awful

royal swan
#

In the fourth you only give one tank, and one air vehicle for both sides

copper ice
#

providing they made flares not immortal

fervent rose
#

they should really split ram/wildcat too. more dedicated AA for defense would be a solid change

copper ice
#

sorry cant remove player choice and agency teehee

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not that the 40mm or 57mm wildcat is any good at AA

glacial quarry
#

ram is stupid especially in spearhead can just drive it indoor

spiral folio
#

Cant limit player choice
frogconcern
-notices classes existing-

copper ice
#

any obj that you can just drive a vehicle inside is ass 99% of the time

hybrid totem
#

it's funny that listening to y'all complain is just making me want to play

No such thing as bad press...

glacial quarry
#

even better a tank

copper ice
glacial quarry
#

drive a tank indoor

fervent rose
spiral folio
fervent rose
#

god what a good map

drowsy shuttle
spiral folio
#

Noticing intensifies

royal swan
#

Should invest in more cement cylinders

copper ice
copper ice
spiral folio
#

Agency?

copper ice
#

and bfv vehicles didnt have like irish or 8 billion different ways to totally avoid damage

#

and the assaults had launchers and they didnt suck

#

holy fuck i cant believe i actually miss bfv

fervent rose
#

bfv was a good game despite the clear flaws

royal swan
#

But they did have that terrible upgrade system that made it harder to kill more old players and dumbfounding easy to kill new players

fervent rose
#

no hp regen OMEGALUL

copper ice
#

the vehicle upgrade system was the dumbest fucking thing in the universe

royal swan
#

I can agree on that

fervent rose
#

attrition systems didnt help anything

copper ice
#

and they made it even worse for the Pacific vehicles

#

some of those planes without upgrades were like using a tank that had no cannon

#

insanely poorly designed

glacial quarry
#

all i remember was JU88 on launch CLOWN

royal swan
#

Thank god 2042 had coop where you can grind upgrades

fervent rose
#

yea flying a 0 upgrade plane was a blast

#

really enjoyable

copper ice
#

they added a co-op mode which everyone thought was for vehicle grinding and then they didnt even put the vehicles in it

#

so you literally had no option but to gimp your own team to try and level vehicles

#

absolutely brain dead design

#

insanely stupid

royal swan
#

Thank god it's gone

copper ice
#

now i have to farm bots for an hour to unlock shit instead

#

which is a lot more reasonable but still stupid

royal swan
fervent rose
#

bots are great and should be in every bf game

royal swan
#

I would like a better system

copper ice
#

i do actually like the bots a lot

fervent rose
#

i dont care about having them in mp but solo bots is awesome

royal swan
#

Bots are nice but so stupid

copper ice
#

just getting shit like 500 kills to unlock flat upgrades like bigmag sucks

drowsy shuttle
royal swan
#

Just port battlefront 2 AI to this game please

fervent rose
#

pepestarege when the bot is more likely to revive you than random real player

glacial quarry
#

500 kills only take like 30 mins tho on bots

fervent rose
#

and i do get revived by them when they are in the game so thats not a joke

#

they are good at it

royal swan
#

I actually hope for bots in my team for THAT REASON

fervent rose
#

they werent at launch, but they revive well now

royal swan
#

Plus they drop ammo crates when you request ammo crates

fervent rose
#

we need the hardline/bfv grab feature back

glacial quarry
#

needing ammo sounds like a skill issue tbh just pick up from ppl you kill

royal swan
#

Once you do the request, a support bot will actually go up to you and drop a supply crate

fervent rose
#

what about gadget ammo bruh

#

not enough Angels call down their crate, i wish dice would incentivize that

#

i assume half of them dont know its a thing

glacial quarry
#

i remember when i played angel the only time i called down crates was to teamkill people

copper ice
drowsy shuttle
#

Give ranger ability to revive people.

copper ice
#

they already fucked support up by allowing non-crate gadgets

#

give MEDIC ranger

fervent rose
copper ice
#

give it falx syringe gun

fervent rose
#

the functionality exists to make it simple

royal swan
#

Bots don't give up when down, they give you ammo when asked, they give health when asked, they always try to revive you, and they join vehicles.

copper ice
#

holy shit

fervent rose
#

well, i dont know about that OMEGALUL

royal swan
#

Actually more helpful than players

fervent rose
#

but it should

#

and it could

copper ice
#

ohhhhh you mean it should have a basic qol feature

#

yeah that would be nice

fervent rose
#

it highlights the support players like the bots

#

idk if it works the same in live games

royal swan
#

OH AND THEY REPAIR VEHICLES

glacial quarry
fervent rose
#

i pay less attention to these details in regular games

#

but it does highlight bots when u commrose ammo

copper ice
#

bots cant exist in bf multiplayer because it makes it obvious how broken teamplay actually is

royal swan
copper ice
#

3 bots repairing a tank never dies

glacial quarry
#

also they’re unironically the best mortar user ever like no cap

copper ice
#

and by teamplay i mean press button 2 win

glacial quarry
#

i had a bot go 18 kills in 2 mins with mortar

#

they have aimbot on it

fervent rose
#

tank mortar is so effective i had to remove it from my tank

royal swan
#

Oh and the best rocket shooters

#

Flying a heli is more risky, the moment you stop they dome your ass

glacial quarry
#

i once had an AI gunner who nuked 6 actual players with one mortar

fervent rose
#

cant be having random passengers steal my kills

#

they are more likely to hop out when theres no mortar, too

royal swan
#

I would love them to be updated

copper ice
#

mortar drop is weird and takes a while to get used to

#

ai just knows

royal swan
#

Bots need better combat skills

#

Despite being super helpful they are dumb when it comes to combat

copper ice
#

sure it might get it a metre off target, but 60mm mortar doesnt miss when its a metre off target

royal swan
#

And they don't have any knowledge of the idea of cover

copper ice
#

they've got shit accuracy

fervent rose
#

the bots are capable of doing cool things like sliding into peeks

#

but yea they have no sense of cover at all

copper ice
#

if you give them anything that functions while still being inaccurate they clean house

fervent rose
#

compared to Tarkov bots they suck ass

copper ice
#

the 40mm canister pod with a bot annihilates everything

royal swan
#

The moment you give them cod levels of smarts, then holy shit the game is awesome with bots

fervent rose
#

i dont think they could

#

cpu would melt

copper ice
#

they've got their accuracy cranked down on purpose so people can go on streaks in solo

royal swan
#

True

copper ice
#

even on highest difficulty they miss 95% of the time

royal swan
#

I went on a huge kill rampage up to 100

fervent rose
#

difficulty doesnt do anything, afaik

copper ice
#

that would explain why it felt exactly the same

fervent rose
#

the bots are the most interesting when you have no allies on your team

copper ice
#

rambo mode?

fervent rose
#

they dont use cover, but they surround you

#

like wide surrounds too

glacial quarry
#

the 60mm mortar can land in australia and still kill someone in south africa

copper ice
#

they take some bizarre flanking routes yeah

royal swan
#

One big group asking for a 4 course meal of lead

copper ice
#

you notice it easy on new breakaway BT

fervent rose
royal swan
fervent rose
#

i figure they are tuned to just be more chill in a regular solo game

copper ice
#

the bots take literally 3 minutes to get to the obj because theyll run all the way around the edge

#

solo tdm actually sounds fun

fervent rose
#

it is genuinely fun on flashpoint

royal swan
#

Because they don't bleed out there is less of them alive

fervent rose
#

tons of bots trying to surround you

royal swan
#

I want ai to be battlefront 2 ai

copper ice
#

added in a year after release?

royal swan
#

Battlefront 2 ai are extremely difficulty to beat

#

Although easy to kill in 1v1

#

A group will fuck you up

#

And in coop, without 4 players you're fucked deeply

#

Even with 4 the chances of losing that coop match is high

dapper river
#

I assume repairs too

glacial quarry
#

i never had a bot repair me yet

dapper river
#

They probably weren't the correct class, and you have to request it with the commorose

royal swan
mental delta
fervent rose
#

or whatever number you want

#

takes about 10 seconds to make

mental delta
fervent rose
#

who cares about xp

mental delta
fervent rose
#

okay, this is a side mode for.. fun

rich elbow
#

👋

calm bison
glacial quarry
#

is there 1v64 bots

#

sounds fun

fervent rose
#

i think it maxes out at 32 idk

glacial quarry
#

how hard is it lol i jinda want to try it now

#

it doesnt record in stats right?

fervent rose
#

i have no idea

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like it shouldnt but you never know with this game

glacial quarry
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how to set it up

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oh holy shit

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i found a funny experience

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@fervent rose

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its 1 vs 63 bots

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no hud, slow hp regen and you start off with a pistol gotta pick up guns goal is to survive 10 mins lmao

mellow wave
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the rm68 needs a hotfix rn

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been droppin 40 kills every game

glacial quarry
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is portal broken cant host

radiant prism
hybrid totem
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nightbird op af

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nerf the health

mellow wave
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i wanna play on the heli so bad, but I can never get one

glacial quarry
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says invalid code

hybrid totem
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I am also pretty tired of watching the same people run the same vehicles every game

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I may be a vehicle main, but I don't discriminate

fervent rose
hybrid totem
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I'll drive/fly anything

glacial quarry
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l

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what portal experience can i fight the most bots at once

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solo, no vehicles

mellow wave
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Why am I getting a black screen after every game

mellow wave
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Once I was like "fuck this, im getting the heli" and I spammed the button for 2 minutes and I still didnt get it

hybrid totem
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vehicle respawn time is approximately 2 min. Some ppl actually have timers set up on their desk that they restart each time they die so they can be sure of getting it

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the glitchy vehicle spawn screen isn't helping either

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Personal vehicle respawn timers should be longer than the actual vehicle respawn tiemrs

robust vapor
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is it me or are there hackers around

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like

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you can't be serious i just spawned in a jet and some enemy jet insta locked onto me like knowing where i would be coming from

hybrid totem
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...you just spawned. Of course they know where you would be coming from?

fervent rose
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is the jet spawn in location not randomized at all

robust vapor
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that's not the issue

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like he knows when i'm spawning

fervent rose
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if they know when the last jet dies, that part isnt hard

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or whatever vehicle

robust vapor
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spawn camp is irritating enough

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but the cunt keeps targeting me all the time

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even when i'm on foot

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and it's always me

ashen palm
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Bot kills unlock weapons and attatchments? When was this added? I’ve been missing out on easy pistol attachments

kindred flint
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I'm with you on this tinfoil theory leo

hybrid totem
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yep, some people who have those timers use them to remind themselves when they enemy aircraft will spawn. Literally farming

robust vapor
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play in the asian server with me and you'll understand

ashen palm
kindred flint
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I'm not joking..and don't call me Shirley

ashen palm
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I’ll hold this L i guess

waxen igloo
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Hey, so I've been inspired for some suggestions and I wanted to share them with other players. Here they go:

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New Maps with a focus on Levelution

Fallen Berlin: A reimagination of the Fall of Berlin from BF 2142; This time with more open spaces in buildings and more traversal options, such as Ziplines and Elevators; And a levolution of Acid Rain. Location would be the center of Berlin during winter. With three main heights area: Ground, Mid and Top. The ground map would be taken over by large piles of frozen Garbage blocking the streets and large enough for a Tank to drive over, instead of the Wall of Ice in 2142; Mid would be claustrophobic apartments corridors and floors making an access route to Top and firing positions covering the Ground Level, with buildings connected with Ziplines between each other and the mostly safe locations from the Acid Rain; The top would be the very top of the buildings, but populated with objects and cover for Taking advantage of BF42 movement system making time the top of the buildings would be a legit area of fighting for Infantry, since it was an unofficial one back in 2142. In matter of Lore the city is found in this horrible state as it deals with Mass Emigrations that started protests and unrest since the Blackout, and the Germany government having lost control of it for years. Approaching the middle of the match duration Acid Rain would start to fall along the city; The rain would damage anyone exposed to it, and would damage gadgets and light vehicles exposed as well; Once the torrent had stopped most of the littered streets and garbage patches areas would become mud fields where vehicle would lose break and character speed would be severely slowed. Main focus points would still be: Streets, Crossroads, Roadblock, Square and Outpost; As the original map but adapted for more movement and taking in consideration the top of the buildings now, as the areas would have capping points both on the ground as on top of the buildings. There should have a Walker Prototype as an easter egg in the military Outpost.

robust vapor
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is there a website where i can check a player's stats?

waxen igloo
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Operation Woodpecker: Location Amazon Forest patch in Brazil, dense jungle forest with a large Woodcutting operation in the center. The map would have five major spots: Logging Camp, Tree Houses hotel, Riverbank Boat House, Research/Preservation Camp and Waterfall. Logging Camp located dead right in the center, would have a Giant, house-sized, Truck with Tree saws parked. This logger truck would be a drivable vehicle and basically indestructible, but with parts still able to be damaged to stop it; It would keep moving unless its tires had been destroyed or the pilot would stop it, it would also continue moving by itself if the driver had been killed in the open cockpit. Once moving, it would cut down the jungle forest it drives over, creating paths of cut down trees, crashing smaller buildings and removing cover and camouflage; Given enough time it would be able to cut down most of the Jungle Forest in the entire map. The logging camp and the Research Camp would all be fragile/temporary buildings destructible by both explosions or the Logger truck. In one side of the map would be the Amazon river section, a stretching sinuated and wide river taking maybe 1/4 of the map with a large waterfall and dangerous rapids on the middle, Capture points located in both banks of the river up and down the Waterfall: Up as a abandoned river boat house, with boat spawns; The boats would be able to drop down the waterfall, but wouldn't be able to drive back up; And up the waterfall a Tourist Treehouse Jungle Hotel with Pathways in steel scaffolds and Ziplines crossing between sides of the river above the river and ground.

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New Gameplay loops

NOPATS ORDERS: Orders that can be activated by players to compete in the match, such as: Destroy more vehicles, Revive More Players, kill more without dying, Capture more objectives. The Orders will be an open for all between all players in the match. Orders could be player focused or Squad focused.

COLLAPSE OF NATIONS: Weekly challenges where each player chooses the nation they want to fight for, and every score he makes in any game for the Collapse of Nations Mode counts for his nation final score; Each week the number of nations is cut in half, only the better half continuing for the next week. The players are also given the option to fight for the NoPats if their nation is removed, in the end there would be only one nation vs the NoPats, every time a Nation won it would mark a Nation scoreboard which would intentionally be something very hard to achieve.

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New Game Modes

SCAVENGER MODE: Players start with no spare ammo and no gadgets. The maps would be smaller and filled with dead bodies and damaged vehicles; Vehicles would not spawn after destroyed unless called in. As players capture objectives, they can call supply box to pick a loadout or their vehicles around the map.

SUPPLIES RUN MODE: Map Mode where trucks filled with humanitarian supplies are spawned across the map, both sides score points by moving the trucks to their extraction points; The trucks are slow, fragile and open-toped, requiring team-work to be able to move them without losing them. The trucks respawn in random locations of the map, once destroyed.

EXODUS LANDING: A reimagination Titan/Carrier Mode, but this time with only one side having a big ship. Exodus team would have to destroy missile launchers on the ground while defending Exodus, and Ground team would have to defend the Missile Launchers to a point where they can counter-attack on Exodus itself. Exodus being a player driven ship with cannons able to support the amphibious landing and the Missile Launchers being also player driven trucks that could be fired from anywhere in the map, but only reloaded at Capture Points.

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Map Fixes to add More Levolution to existing maps

Exposure: Bringing back the core concept of Levolution, to me Exposure is an unfinished map because we are only seeing the end of a Levolution we didn't partake in. Exposure should start as an intact mountain base that could be triggered to explode, and players fighting inside the intact tunnels and above the mountain until the demolition explosives are detonated, and like maps in BF4 in some matches it wouldn't be detonated; Starting an Avalanche creating the map we now play on. Placing the first Avalanche levolution in Battlefield and actually letting us take part in the fight before the base collapsed, similar to the Shanghai Siege skyscraper and Lancang Dam in BF4

fervent rose
waxen igloo
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Breakaway: Breakaway is another missed opportunity for a different levolution concept. One where a glacier shelf is breaking apart during the match. The part of the map located on the iceshelf should fracture in pieces, with the glacial crevasse expanding and closing in as the ice-shelf slips into the sea, to make things extra interesting the Glacier could be detonated to destroy the Oil Rig and cause a chain-reaction in the store tanks on land. In the end creating a shore scorched by oil tank fires and Icebergs floating.

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Manifest: Manifest is the third clear one I expected more levolution, the map has the prominent Sea Barrier, but it doesn't interfere in anything. Along the tornado, or perhaps instead since majority of maps already have Tornados; The map should gradually increase storm intensity and water level among the port. Once the storms reach it worst point sirens warn that the Barrier is leaking and water starts to rapid climb up, the ships in port raise with the water level, winds and waves start pushing the ship towards the hill in the middle along floating containers and wrecks from the cranes. In the end the map would become smaller with the ships becoming stranded in the hill and Port Customs.

drowsy shuttle
arctic grove
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wtf

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Oh he isn’t just randomly spamming copypastas

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Okay I’m bored I’ll read them

glacial quarry
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LMAO I DID IT

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i made a 1 vs 127 portal experience

waxen igloo
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I actually thought about them. xP

prisma hinge
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how do so many people mix up passed and past

glacial quarry
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@fervent rose

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lmao look how many bots there are wtf

fervent rose
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are there more than 32

glacial quarry
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theres 127

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im p sure

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wait ill stream it

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general 1

dapper river
glacial quarry
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it only says 32

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cuz the scoreboard cant show that many

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but its def way more come see

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yeah its def way more than 32

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either 64 or 127 but i set it to 127 so im p sure its 127

mild crystal
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Hi kids

glacial quarry
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yo this is insane there are so many bots

spiral folio
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Omfg so many text walls

lilac dust
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Got flashpoint to show up in the rotation for the first time in 2 days and the match immediately ended EA_Joy

spiral folio
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Work on your gd elevator pitch guy

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Brief
Parse it down
Be direct

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59 minutes of frikin scrolling by 1 person posting 3 times

tepid briar
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anyone know if 2042 has high ram usuage on PC? Is 8gb sufficient if i can't just upgrade? (edited)

glacial quarry
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anyone want to try this experience lol

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1 vs 127 bots

ebon pilot
glacial quarry
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AA855N