battlefield-2042

[next onyx]

Their base behaviour is so botty but they have times where they grow more brain cells than the actual majority of the player base.

[remote kiln]

they will react to footsteps that are in a proximity and change their engagement

[placid echo]

Bots have gotten better at reviving I've noticed

[ruby saffron]

Its kinda sad that for the most part the bots play better than players do

Ive even seen them directly attack destructible objects

Not sure why they do

[next onyx]

I would love their delay where the run up to you to be reduced.

[placid echo]

I've also noticed bots DROP-SHOTTING

[next onyx]

When they revive.

[ruby saffron]

But its obvious on breakaway and orbital

[next onyx]

Yea you've seen them randomly prone as well?

[ruby saffron]

They will literally shoot the shit that explodes to kill you

[remote kiln]

it is player simulated

so that's to be expected

[ruby saffron]

They also are like psychically linked so once one sees you they all see you

[remote kiln]

they're not exactly new to the franchise, title speaking

[placid echo]

Oh hey #direct-communications posts says what a Marksman kill actually is

Headshot of 200m or more with either a Sniper or Marksman rifle.

[remote kiln]

it's funny that DICE barely acknowledged SEED whatsoever before launching 2042

everyone thinking the bots are just dumb drones

[placid echo]

There was a BF1 video on it

[remote kiln]

the test video yeah that one, but there's 1 acknowledgement of them in 2042

in an obscure interview from 2021

though doubt most players have even heard of SEED so meh

[placid echo]

It is in the credits of 2042 iirc

Then again who is gonna look there?

[remote kiln]

think more folks have read the terms and conditions rather than the credits

[ruby saffron]

2042 bots scare me

[placid echo]

"I fear no man, but that thing it scares me"

[placid echo]

I'm in the credits :v

[ruby saffron]

The idea of a bot with a ghostmaker causes me mortal dread

[placid echo]

I CAN DO THAT

They actually are kinda bad with it

[ruby saffron]

What about the railgun

They never miss anyways

[placid echo]

Have yet to try it.

Give a bot a riot shield and they don't know what to do lol

I wonder what happens if I give 30 bots riot shields

on Norshar Canals TDM

[ruby saffron]

I feel like the bots will eventually learn so much they can outperform most players

Ive seen these creatures trek halfway across the map just to get a sniper peek on a single dude

Its absurd

[remote kiln]

ah yeah I 100% knew that

[placid echo]

Bots with Snipers is something I haven't tested in a while

Most I've seen one get is a 200m shot

[acoustic seal]

real bots imitating figurative bots, what a time to be alive

[copper ice]

if they cranked the bot accuracy up even a little bit they'd be monsters

[ruby saffron]

Kinda seems like the bots vary game to game

Sometimes they are literal gods, sometimes braindead

I wonder if the game randomly sorts them into games to simulate players of various skill levels

The logic being it wouldn’t be fun if you won every single game

So throw some pros in there to give players a challenge and it feels more rewarding? Idk

[wide shore]

Rn the bots suck on the ground but are unreasonably goated in a vehicle

[ruby saffron]

Some of them on the ground are devious

[wide shore]

They have their moments

[ebon pilot]

finally

i really don't like this gun for some reason

it doesn't feel right

and i know some people swear it's the best gun in the game

but i disagree personally

[acoustic seal]

idk man i just shoot center mass and it works

it's no wrapped pp but still very good

[ebon pilot]

but the recoil feels fuckin weeeeeeiiirdd man

none of the other smgs feel like it

i never got used to it

anyway, now i can move on to better launch guns

and sadly the only ones I have remaining I also hate because they don't bode well for playing the objective

and secondaries

[placid echo]

I see you like the 4x on the Snipers

[ebon pilot]

it's partly because I have legendary skins on those snipers and the 4x changes with the skin

and I like playing the objective so half my targets are within 100m anyway

[ruby saffron]

Does flashpoint have any weather events?

[ebon pilot]

rain

[ruby saffron]

Only played the map twice

[ebon pilot]

just rain

[ruby saffron]

Cool cool

One thing 2042 has going for it is its weather effects

Pretty good

[mild crystal]

Anyone else not a fan of smg"@

II rather use an ar or lmg

Id

[arctic grove]

if this game has CQC maps

[ruby saffron]

In all my time playing i never knew the tornadoes had random size variations

[mild crystal]

Tornados are ass

It should only be on 1 map and each map should have a different event like how the building came down on siege of shanghai on bf4

[ruby saffron]

The weather is cool

[mild crystal]

Can u get a snow storm on the snow map

[ruby saffron]

I dont believe so, it was leaked a while back tho so they could be saving it for a rework

[buoyant oriole]

how do i get into the practice place in bf2042 portal?

where you have enemies popping out and you can kinda just shoot and try out guns etc etc

[wide shore]

Oh the aim trainer

AANJ7Z

That’s the experience code

[buoyant oriole]

ty sir

[magic bloom]

I think I’m gonna grind rush XL for Crawford T1

[mild crystal]

Is there a code for a server i can use to practuce heli's

[wide shore]

Just play in solo/co-op

3rd option over on either conquest or breakthrough.

Best place to practice with anything really

[warped turret]

4.1 is HUGE

I'm excited

[hushed plinth]

i hate it when asia server is down and EA just dont tell anyone

[ruby saffron]

4.1 is a great patch

Got a sc of a lightning bolt before it touched the ground

[copper ice]

There's a challenge to get two marksman kills? Goddamn

[ruby saffron]

Headshots over 200m aint too bad

[copper ice]

i do not think the average player would manage too well

[ruby saffron]

Really? Bulletdrop is more forgiving in 2042 than most bf games

[gloomy otter]

I just realized we have no flash hider for AOW weapons, it would have been one nice addition

[ruby saffron]

My record shot is over 400 on exposure

[ebon pilot]

I thought that's what wrapped suppressors were for

[gloomy otter]

Oh

I actually expected the flash hiders in portal weapon to work like the one from bf4

Until and unless it's close range, enemy can't spot you

[ebon pilot]

Wrapped suppressors do the same thing. Just a reduced range deduction. But it doesn't really matter too much

[hushed plinth]

200 really isn't that hard

you'll just need to find a prone sniper

[ebon pilot]

Step 1
Railgun

Step 2
Profit

[hushed plinth]

i hate the rail gun

i hate the delay

i'll just stick to dxr1

[ebon pilot]

that's fair

[mild crystal]

1 day i wanna run a full squad of railguns just fir a laugh

Itd be funny

But i aint got no friends on the game lol

[hushed plinth]

i hate sniping in 2042 tho

you're forced to be away from the frontline because all guns are laser beams and you get punished if you get close to 120m of the enemy

roof top sniping is boring

[slender isle]

This is infact a skill issue

within 100m you can murder people instantly just due to how big their head is

outside of 100m slap on a 5x and no one knows you're even looking at them

[hushed plinth]

or just an ar instead

[slender isle]

Yes, an AR is good within it's intended range of sub 100m

a sniper is good outside of 100m

[gloomy otter]

Some ars can still melt outside 100m

[hushed plinth]

i always kill people outside if 100m with ar and lmg

sometimes i would score some bs 150m kills

without bursting

[gloomy otter]

I just wished could remove the iron sight motion blur or dof so I could have used the iron sights more

[mild crystal]

When r they releasing jet update

[gloomy otter]

They changed kobra sight reticle (it got a new one with the release of ac9)

I wish they revert it back

[mild crystal]

They still need rework some maps to and add more events to maps like buildings collapsing or other cool things like the rocket launching and missile incoming

And add more maps

[hushed plinth]

they really should give up on hourglass

it's so shit they might as well just make a completely new one

so is renewal

it's still trash

[gloomy otter]

They should make the stadium playable and if the map is extended bit more into the city subtracting the original spawn points of USA base, it would play damn well

[gloomy otter]

I will disagree, because I can smell skill issue here

[ebon pilot]

the nays have it

decided: skill issue

[gloomy otter]

And rm68 is way too good like, even at close ranges it can outsmart the 12 gauge automatic

[hushed plinth]

it's just not as other maps

[gloomy otter]

How do you play in renewal

[hushed plinth]

it's just flat land and the 2 areas are completely separated

[hushed plinth]

i backcap a lot

[ebon pilot]

so is spearhead?

it's a straight line with two boxes

[hushed plinth]

not at all

[gloomy otter]

There is a ton of high ground in renewal, and if you consider renewal flat then spearhead is the monte grappa of flat lands

[hushed plinth]

i can always go to the spawn flag without dying to random base campers

[hushed plinth]

at least monte grappa is fun in the trenches

[gloomy otter]

You need a camping spot don't you? And for a long time, which renewal doesn't provide

[sturdy socket]

lmao all these redditors bitching about how Lis should be reverted to her state of being able to fucking triple back on a missed target

i love obvious displays of skill issues

"NOOOOO I SHOULDN'T HAVE TO PREDICT MY TARGET AHEAD OF TIME AND USE DEFLECTION!!! IT SHOULD BE EASIER THAN BF4 TV'S!!!!"

[copper ice]

yes.

[hushed plinth]

not a camping spot but somewhere near a cap where i can hide and kill clueless people

[gloomy otter]

Do you know the hero named Junkrat from overwatch 2, the redditors reminds me of junkrat

[hushed plinth]

You should be glad they don’t know rail tank exists

Because that’s a way bigger problem

It’s literally free kill

[gloomy otter]

Dude there are quite some places in that map, if I take C, the wall itself and the moving irrigator can always work + the high ground near B(C side)

[glossy abyss]

What’s like, the worst weapon in Battlefield 2042 iyo?

[magic bloom]

K30

You might as well just throw the bullets at them now

[gloomy otter]

Mp9

[hushed plinth]

C is the only decent place

And the large building at the green side

[gloomy otter]

For B..... Well it's a depressing place, but it has tons of flanking routes

[gloomy otter]

That's D

And a few which are not capping point but near the B side

[upbeat sand]

America should become a third world country - DannyOnPc

[copper ice]

half the portal guns

[upbeat sand]

Beautiful

[hushed plinth]

The map is too big for how little cap there is

[fallen pendant]

Man those fucking long range ass pussies are getting in my nerves

[gloomy otter]

One thing I learnt from 2042 maps, is that you need to be mobile

[hushed plinth]

Proning in bf is always = death

[gloomy otter]

Even pressing c and crtl

[hushed plinth]

Renewal is pretty good in breakthrough tho

[proven igloo]

I just wanna know the thought process behind there even being an option to flip the bipod on and off.

[gloomy otter]

I made one of the valo players, play this game, bro was shocked with the fact that you can do so many things in this game

[copper ice]

in case you hate yourself

[gloomy otter]

Agreed( I am a breakthrough enthusiast)

[fallen pendant]

How are people so accurate in fucking 150m away

[hushed plinth]

I really need to stop using the rm68
It’s starting to ruin my aim when i use other guns

[hushed plinth]

Because it is

[rough halo]

I missed playing bf. Been away hard core since BF4 on and off with 1/5 and lost hope for this after initial launch. Hoping this has gotten better playable and enjoyable

[hushed plinth]

Especially the rm68

[quiet shell]

Why do I have to wait for my character to put the magazine away and then hold their rifle properly to start shooting again. Just let me shoot the moment the magazine is inserted

[rough halo]

Crappy animation is doing too much

[gloomy otter]

It's pretty decent if compared to the initial launch, you can give it a try only if you have one good PC

[acoustic seal]

people wanted bf5 animations and they got bf5 animaions

[rough halo]

I have ps5 / XBOSX unfortunately

[fallen pendant]

People say there is no recoil in this game, but let's not forget the fact that the specialists are small asf. The recoil is balanced

[gloomy otter]

Dude that's an all rounder weapon, I don't even know how this gun can outplay a 12g automatic shotgun even at po8nt blank

[quiet shell]

BFV didn't need a dedicated mechanic for magazine insertion because the majority of guns didn't have a modern magazine feed system

[gloomy otter]

Then play it, in ps5 it's smooth as butter

[hushed plinth]

I’m surprised dice didn’t nerf it in this patch

[quiet shell]

They need their seasonal weapons to be OP so that people will actually grind for them

[hushed plinth]

The only complain i have is the 30 round mag

But it’s my fault for always reloading

[gloomy otter]

I expected DICE to kinda make a broken weapon after avancys(it's good now) but holy fuck

[gloomy otter]

Bro let it be 30 round pls, that's the only time I can outplay a rm68

[hushed plinth]

Avancys is still broken af
I can beam people at 120m

[gloomy otter]

If you are prone yea

[copper ice]

all guns can do that

[hushed plinth]

I don’t tho

Just ads

[fallen pendant]

Fuck you

[hushed plinth]

I also think it’s ridiculous

[gloomy otter]

Actually the thermal scopes in this game is just :Italian hand gesture:

[hushed plinth]

I’m using the ak24 rn and it feels like trash compared to the rm68

[copper ice]

poor damage model

[fallen pendant]

RM68 is a noob gun

Period

[hushed plinth]

It is

[gloomy otter]

A weapon is fun to use when you have the ability to control the recoil a bit, know when to tap fire, and hip fire, for rm68, it's just aim and profit

[hushed plinth]

Whats the difference between the lasers

[copper ice]

functionally very little

[hushed plinth]

It’s so satisfying when you mastered the burst of a gun

[gloomy otter]

Agreed

[gloomy otter]

Wanna play 2042 together sometimes?

[hushed plinth]

I would if the server isn’t fucked

[gloomy otter]

Which servers?

[hushed plinth]

Asia server is down and no one said anything about it

[gloomy otter]

What

Since when?

[hushed plinth]

I vpn to Australia and it’s working

[hushed plinth]

This morning

[upbeat sand]

I am going to go ahead and do that and get a new phone 📞

The only thing I Dutch

[gloomy otter]

I played two matches last night around 2, and got servers with almost full people

@hushed plinth

[hushed plinth]

It was fine last night for me as well

It’s clearly a asia problem because Australia server works fine

I can’t even get to the main screen

[gloomy otter]

I haven't faced a server issue before but ig

[hushed plinth]

Asia server spas out once in a while

It’ll probably be fixed when dice devs wake up

[gloomy otter]

Lmao

Btw accept friend req in discord

[hushed plinth]

2042 server has always been garbage

[gloomy otter]

If they could just give the option to change the region at the very least (I know they won't add a server browser anytime soon)

[hushed plinth]

They still haven’t fix the issue of package drop when you play the game after rebooting

Basically the first game of the day is always fucked for 5 mins

[gloomy otter]

Oh

[hushed plinth]

And gun not loading in

[gloomy otter]

Oh

[hushed plinth]

And i have a gen4 ssd

[gloomy otter]

That one

Oh

I had that occasionally and the best way of solving it is to restart both steam and EA

[hushed plinth]

And pinging would make you stop shooting

[gloomy otter]

Oh

[hushed plinth]

It will fix itself in a few minutes and it only happens at the first game of the day

[gloomy otter]

I recently found a bug with the AEK tho

One is a bug and idk about the other, but seems like a misinformation

[hushed plinth]

I haven’t unlocked the aek

I’m still grinding with the ak24

[gloomy otter]

It happens with me quite often, with the AEK is that, if you try to put the suppressor after default barrel, it doesn't technically change to suppressor even though it sounds like one

And same goes for flash hider

[hushed plinth]

I really don’t think the suppresser is any good in 2042

[brittle flame]

wrong

[hushed plinth]

Most people don’t look at the mini map

[gloomy otter]

And the misleading info is that the suppressor looks like a tactical suppressor but the image shows it's a PBS-4 suppressor

[gloomy otter]

They do bro they do

[gloomy otter]

It is, in cqc put a sup, and subsonic round, you are Batman

[hushed plinth]

It’s just not my style

I prefer my mid range combat

[gloomy otter]

Ic

I am a medic so yea

[hushed plinth]

Where I know i can always out gun them

[ebon pilot]

have you seen where my minimap is? it's kinda hard

[gloomy otter]

Can't see your minimap bro, your PC is way too far away from my field of real life vision

[ebon pilot]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/850376380822323230/1082874590096797787/image.png

[gloomy otter]

.....mine isn't that small

[copper ice]

Wrapped suppressor is good

[pearl ridge]

Can't they just make us carry four M5 rockets as standard

Why the hell is BFV style attrition still a thing but only for that

Three rockets doesn't kill anything

[gloomy otter]

For mine it usually takes the full corner, and I keep it medium

[hushed plinth]

You’re not supposed to solo a tank

[gloomy otter]

+++

[pearl ridge]

If I can live long enough to load and fire that many rockets they fucking deserve to die

[rich spear]

hourglass and discarded rework when?

[hushed plinth]

Well c4 is the way to go then

[ebon pilot]

Discarded: Probably 4.2
Hourglass: If not 5.0, probably 5.2

[gloomy otter]

Take Lis, 2 refilling rockets and 3 rockets

[pearl ridge]

In 1 and V I can carry rockets and dynamite together. Now in this I'm stuck with this piece of shit sentry turret taking up a slot

[hushed plinth]

I don’t know why they’re even attempting to fix hourglass

[rich spear]

thanks

[ebon pilot]

because they're doing it for every launch map and hourglass is a launch map

[hushed plinth]

Just make a new map

[gloomy otter]

Ig we will get two new maps after s5

[hushed plinth]

Hourglass needs a complete rework to be decent

[ebon pilot]

that's probably why it's taking so long

[hushed plinth]

We could have got a new map with a different theme

[ebon pilot]

but i like the theme of hourglass

i like the sandstorm

it's cool

[acoustic seal]

hourglass is the least salvageable map, you would need to cut out huge sections of desert and they're just not going to do that

[hushed plinth]

They could make a new desert map

[gloomy otter]

If they can make the rework of hourglass + making it a night map as well, ig it will be one of the best looking maps

[gloomy otter]

Man I wish they add the Atacama Desert from bfbc2 or port Valdez

[hushed plinth]

Desert maps always sucks from my experience since bf4

[gloomy otter]

The weapon could be more immersive, like if it can accurately something more than dust, like snow and mud, it would feel so damn nice

[hushed plinth]

The only good desert map is Sinai desert

And it’s only fun when i use the 1917 telescopic and camp A

[acoustic seal]

sinai also could've done with having the whole lower part of the map cut entirely

[gloomy otter]

Agreed except the fights I used to get at the G point of Sinai desert in bf1 were always legendary

(which is rare)

[hushed plinth]

It’s pretty common as the game age

Everyone knows you need G

[gloomy otter]

Ah yea

[hushed plinth]

And tank hunter good

Can’t say no to the best thing in game

[gloomy otter]

Ayo 🤨 📸

[hushed plinth]

Bf1 desert map works because the gun lacks range

[quiet shell]

I hope to god outstanding performance doesnt return in the next battlefield because I seriously dont give a shit about who did what during the game. Like genuinely I could give more fucks about the spec of sand under my carpet than who had an outstanding performance at the end of round. I just want to get to the next game. Dont tell me that SirGluggsly4448 had 180 revives

[acoustic seal]

hint hint wink wink nudge @ alex

[arctic grove]

Ding ding ding

[thick shadow]

can't imagine bf starting the tracer pack gun skins like cod

[arctic grove]

BUT THEY NEED TO VALUE MTX SKINNZZ!!11!21!2:! (Jokes aside, I don’t really mind it. Just throwing this response in)

[buoyant oriole]

how do i join no name aim training server in bf2042

i tried but i couldn't join

it is giving a error

[inner roost]

Just start your own private server

[acoustic seal]

AANJ7Z

[buoyant oriole]

yes but its giving an error

i am trying to host

just wondering if its working for everybody else or not

[quiet shell]

Dice has taken every good breakthrough layout and made them less good but continues to not improve stranded breakthrough layout

[magic bloom]

I like it the way it is

[acoustic seal]

stranded needs more entrances everywhere, you can't solve that with a layout change

[scarlet flax]

stranded is okay

except for that stupid helicopter the russians get

i always specifically target that

but it's easy if you have a tor or are good with recoilless m5s

[quiet shell]

also how come DICE has never addressed the 30mm on the LATV

probably the single worst vehicle weapon in terms of experience

[acoustic seal]

oh the jeeps need the splash cannons removed entirely

[quiet shell]

100% fucking this

[acoustic seal]

just like the condor and hind do

[glacial quarry]

unless u have it in kaleidoscope final sector defense on BT

[quiet shell]

explosive splash weapons do not need to be this common

[quiet shell]

thats when it's at its worst

can completely shut out enemies on breakthrough with it

[glacial quarry]

30mm is nowhere near as strong as it was before

[quiet shell]

It's still stupidly strong

It's insane how DICE can ask us about how fun the medpen is but it's like shouting into a void when it comes to asking them about removing the 30mm

[glacial quarry]

and i think 50mm only one shots on direct hit unlike before

[acoustic seal]

convert the 50mm to be mostly direct hit damage, replace the 30 and 40 with the light and heavy machine guns from the other vehicles

people are going to whine but you simply can't have splash everywhere all the time

[quiet shell]

I don't know why DICE has such a hard on for splash damage weapons in this game

[obtuse inlet]

why does this game always crashhhh

[glacial quarry]

cater to casuals

bf2042 is a casual game after all

[quiet shell]

Not even the casuals want this splash damage

Though having listened to all the inside podcasts, I think I can get an idea of why DICE is making decisions like this

they want to give people the tools to easy dopamine

nothing gets the dopamine running like a mass kill moment

and too achieve that, they give us an over abundance of mass kill weapons

regardless of the actual balance it makes

[ebon pilot]

also known as "rare high moments"

[quiet shell]

not very rare when you give people all the tools to constantly make it happen

[ebon pilot]

i'm referencing the developer commentary for random critz in tf2

[glacial moon]

i get infinite black screen after every round and have to close n restart lol

[upbeat sand]

Rpk= rpk

Very rpk

[karmic egret]

Why is there no luger in portal

:c

[static prairie]

No idea

[magic bloom]

The RPK is one of the lmgs in the game

[warm zealot]

It's erroring out for me too, he might have changed something

[vivid agate]

new here. Am I crazy or do I get killed 2 seconds after finding some sort of suitable cover?

This is dysync, right? and I am in fact more skilled than computer lag? (debatable lol)

[static prairie]

U are positioning yourself wrong if you die 2 secs after getting behind cover

If you ment that

[inner ether]

Fucking nerf the god damned fucking HInd already for fuck sake

[real willow]

I heard some new songs from the recon car in-game, anyone know where to check the song list?

[inner ether]

I am so fucking sick of this

[hushed plinth]

Or you got killed by zain airbust

[inner ether]

It spends all it's god damned fucking time over the Cube on Spearhead

fucking untouchable

SOFLAM does fuck all because it doesn't lock on through flares

Hacking does fuck all too because it's too god damned slow and lasts shorter than my farts

We've 10 people trying to kill this motherfucking Hind to no avail

[vivid agate]

Okay - Im exaggerating - more like a split second after. I like get behind a wall and then I'm killed. Happens so much to the point it feels like their hits are registering before my game responds

[vivid agate]

don't even know what that is lol, so probably

[next onyx]

Yeah there's a weird desync.

[hushed plinth]

The server is garbage

It desync all the time

[glacial moon]

its to do with server tick rate afaik

[hushed plinth]

What is the tick rate for 2042

[vivid agate]

word. thanks for the support ya'll. drives me bonkers. Probably mutter "theres no fuckin way" atleast 6 times a night

[hushed plinth]

Did you get killed by a bullet

[glacial moon]

45Hz from what I can find

[hushed plinth]

The server decyncs but it’s not that bad

[hushed plinth]

Barely a improvement since bf4

Damm

[vivid agate]

yes, a weapon is usually displayed on kill cam. And even funnier, whomever killed me is also lying there dead too lol

[still vault]

There are more to "netcode" than Hz

[glacial moon]

I just try to keep in mind that people you kill at times experience the same thing, it's still frustrating but it's not a disadvantage I guess..

[hushed plinth]

It’s probably not desync if you experienced it many times

It’s just skill issue

[vivid agate]

LOL

[hushed plinth]

Learn the map and it’ll improve your experience

[vivid agate]

truth

[vivid agate]

I am the map

[gritty tapir]

lets goooo vehicle superiority is back

[vital latch]

does someone have the TTK of the new vault weapons?

[static prairie]

Oh, happens to me too but i've thought its because of ping or something idk

Have same problem in every fps game tbh

[vivid agate]

I know COD is pretty notorious for desync. I didnt notice it much with BF1 or BF5... just get this feeling its worse with 2042. Onwards and upwards

[obtuse inlet]

Just dropped my first 62 kill game RM68 is actually pretty goated

I was curious on why everyone was using it

[static prairie]

Because its probably best Ar ingame atm

Overall

[obtuse inlet]

Ah

So are we gonna get a nerf on it or what?

[worldly wolf]

hey yall i found a bug on the new rpk74m

the gun whether uses suppresor or not only does the suppresed sound

[quiet shell]

We'll probably see it have a wide hip fire bloom to keep it pretry strictly in the mid to long range category

I've noticed the suppressor really throws people off, it shows up on the minimap in close range but it appears everyone is audio reliant

[inner ether]

It's actually gotten worse, in my experience.

It's so bad right now that Irish APS forgets to delete explosives

[vivid agate]

thats gnarly!

[worldly wolf]

where do i report bugs for 2042?

nvm it wasnt a bug

theres a slught differences beetween suppresed 74m sound and unsuppresed 74m sound

[full burrow]

lol

[ebon pilot]

I'm audio reliant because big screen

[quiet shell]

Just glance to your lower left ez

[pearl ridge]

God I fucking hate Stranded

[ebon pilot]

you don't understand, it's just sooooo far away

[pearl ridge]

AND OF COURSE BOTH EXODUS AND REGULAR CONQUEST ARE RUNNING IT

Why are the matchmaking rotations synced up for all servers

[quiet shell]

Do you want some vertical with that horizontal

[ebon pilot]

so take this image, and paste it on a 49" curved screen that I'm sitting a foot away from

[gritty tapir]

does anyone else feel like theres a fucking delay when throwing your third c5

[ebon pilot]

nah

it's really good for programming

[raven haven]

That's uhhh a bit wide

[ebon pilot]

just a little bit

[magic bloom]

The AEK is still weird

[naive quiver]

AK-74 is mean AK74U ?

[magic bloom]

Pretty much

74U is pretty much just a short AK74

[naive quiver]

i was tried to unlock RPK-74M

dont understand

ak 74

[magic bloom]

Yes the 74u is the one you gotta use for the challenge

[naive quiver]

ok

thank you

[gloomy otter]

I have mixed feelings for the rpk

Like regardless on whichever class I use it with, it feels the same

[magic bloom]

It’s good but it’s just weird

[gloomy otter]

Yes it doesn't change anything even when I am using it with engineer

[magic bloom]

Well engineer is just accuracy while crouched or prone

[gloomy otter]

No actually the recoil is more precised for every lmg

In engineer class

And rpk74 probably has one of the best weapon sounds

And it's kind of unpredictable in mid ranges but is sometimes outplayed by general ARs, so idk

It's just my love for rpk which keeps me using this weapon

[magic bloom]

I Just need the American RPK the M27 IAR

[upbeat sand]

Wonder when we'll get another sniper

Last one was the portal GOL magnum from S2

[magic bloom]

We need the M82 to come back

[upbeat sand]

Portal got a good amount of bold actions

[gritty tapir]

snipers are a joke until they introduce actually zeroing or the distance notches actually work

[upbeat sand]

Plenty to use

[gloomy otter]

Add the M95 to portal, it will be a really good sniper

[upbeat sand]

I mean you can use a a scope that has the ever 10m notch on it

[karmic turtle]

bro i just played a conquest match and my teammate had 106 revives

[gritty tapir]

the notches dont do anything, its literally there for cosmetics

[karmic turtle]

no there not i use them constantly

[upbeat sand]

They are accurate

[gritty tapir]

cap

[upbeat sand]

Including the M5 recoiled rpg ones

I've tested and even Jackfrags tested at launch

[karmic turtle]

Bro have you ever sniped in the game?

[gritty tapir]

ill go test it rn

[gloomy otter]

I don't even know how to calculate the bullet drop

[next onyx]

Think they were adjusted for before the velocity changes.

[upbeat sand]

It does work a enemy was prone and I ended up missing becuase they where too far so I pinged them to see how far they where and they put my scope line on that

[gritty tapir]

the recoiless is the only one that ive had consistently hit where i aimed with teh notches

[upbeat sand]

They headshot

[upbeat sand]

Mmm maybe

[ebon pilot]

Yeah, the recoilless notches actually work

I've snipped people 500m away with it first try because funny notches

[upbeat sand]

Also jesus they gave the Boris and Crawford steroids when using the M5

[next onyx]

If they made the turret only target vehicles they could buff it in a productive way.

Hell, Give Boris the Explosive perk to carry more rockets / c4.

[gritty tapir]

actually trying to play anti vehicle is a great way to not have fun

[hushed plinth]

The only way to anti vehicle is to play rail gun tank

Or c4 macay

[magic bloom]

Can confirm

[upbeat sand]

Give the turret NTW rounds

[magic bloom]

Pre nerf*

[hushed plinth]

Boris turret is so useless

[upbeat sand]

High power anti material NTW*

the HIGH POWER version

[hushed plinth]

I only pick him because liz can’t equip m5 instead

[magic bloom]

The high power version fucks

[gritty tapir]

sundance is decent if theres tall buildings like with hourglass, just glide in on unsuspecting vehicles

[magic bloom]

That’s her only benefit

Otherwise she’s effectively the worst specialist

For assault*

[hushed plinth]

I’d rather use a m5 for anti air than tv

[gritty tapir]

lis is my go to engie, but god damn do i dislike using her rockets sometimes

[magic bloom]

I’m the guy playing rao and soflaming vehicles for M5’s

[upbeat sand]

I don't really like how assault has C5 since past battlefield games only had assault with vehicle destroying only made it that only assault had them but this game has engineer back so why

Since assault is the main anti infantry pusher and they get a tank destroying explosive

[magic bloom]

Their idea was probably the fact it could knock down buildings

[next onyx]

Bf5 assault I loved.

[magic bloom]

Way I quite enjoyed out helicopter gameplay yesterday

We fucked them

[upbeat sand]

Instead people just makay direct zip line on tank

[next onyx]

LOL.

It was fun.

[magic bloom]

It was

Don’t make fun of my lack of typing skill way

[next onyx]

Go the fuck to sleep then.

[magic bloom]

I WOKE UP LIKE…

[upbeat sand]

Maybe they should made a version of C5 that's not effective on vehicles but has better anti infantry and destruction

[magic bloom]

8 HOURS AGO

I had to do math

[low timber]

Samuel L. Jackson

[next onyx]

Lol.

[magic bloom]

Directional charges would be cool

[low timber]

SPH

[upbeat sand]

Yar charges would be nice

[next onyx]

I'd rather c4 just... stay good at destroying vehicles like that.

[upbeat sand]

Not enough KAAABLOOOEH

[next onyx]

Shouldn't be for infantry.

[magic bloom]

C4 on recon during BF4 was epic

[next onyx]

But for destruction.

[upbeat sand]

C5 should be on engineer and recon only

Not assault

[steel sleet]

yes

[magic bloom]

I like how the Russian T28 tank has ERA but it doesn’t work 🤣

[next onyx]

Ehhh maybe? I'm for it being on two classes.

I don't see it being too much of an issue on assault.

[steel sleet]

2042 classes are a mess

[next onyx]

Less of a mess versus launch.

At least.

[upbeat sand]

Assault was ment to eb the major anti infantry class and then they give it a anti tank weapon

[magic bloom]

Engineers should be able to take one thing of C5 in their grenade slot

[next onyx]

Oh yeah that's right you tried to Kamikaze me you prick.

[gritty tapir]

feels like most classes make sense except the other two engineers aside from liz

[steel sleet]

polished turd

[next onyx]

Hang on.

[upbeat sand]

Actually that could work since the 1942 mode does that well

[magic bloom]

I did try and hit you with a condor

I mean it fits the role of being a combat engineer

[steel sleet]

okay hang on your name

there you go

[gritty tapir]

i miss my sabot tank ammo

[magic bloom]

Agreed

[steel sleet]

and thermals

[magic bloom]

I miss firing a depleted uranium sabot through the enemy tank

[magic bloom]

?

[steel sleet]

play warthunder

[magic bloom]

I do.

[steel sleet]

aah, a fellow masochist i see

[magic bloom]

Tanks on top

[gritty tapir]

can you actually use the heavy mg on the tank to help aim the main gun

[gloomy otter]

Inugirl paik catgirl blasco, twitch granny falck possible?

[magic bloom]

It depends if your talking about in game or irl

[magic bloom]

Anything’s possible if you can imagine it

[gritty tapir]

irl i know you can, but in game im wonderin

[copper ice]

for drop? Nah

Bullet drop in 2042 is low

[gloomy otter]

Hey who is Nicolas gekko, I am seeing concept arts ok her, who is she

[next onyx]

@magic bloom

[magic bloom]

Lmao

“Look up and smile way” famous last words

[glacial quarry]

controller driving

[next onyx]

Just found it funny I only had to peak up a tiny bit.

Not really.

[glacial quarry]

average controller pilot

[magic bloom]

Just cause you didn’t get a magic carpet ride

[gritty tapir]

abrams x being more advanced than bf2042's m5

[magic bloom]

It’s not being produced for the US army though

[gritty tapir]

yes, but the concept alone outclasses the tank of the future in bf2042

what im saying is, we should get 30mm secondary guns

[magic bloom]

I’d be down for it

30mm auto cannon

[gritty tapir]

while the "t28" gets downgraded to a t62

[magic bloom]

Wdym

[gritty tapir]

russians using t62s instead of t14 armatas

[magic bloom]

Off topic but I hate the design of the T14

[next onyx]

Holy fuckles of zerg.

I actually had fun on hourglass and it's when the enemy team zerged the stadium to high hell.

[magic bloom]

Imagine playing battlefield

[warm stirrup]

Still hosting the 128 breakthrough server if anyone interested

All vehicles for both teams

[next onyx]

Precisely one more tier and I'm done.

[next onyx]

I love the disparity in kills between my team and I.

[robust vapor]

Roger Roo is proud

[low timber]

Not everyone can drink 10 cups of caffeine and be like the squirrel from the Over The Hedge movie

Oh yeah Way, I’m watching SG-1 currently
Season two.

[arctic grove]

Are the Jets after the long time good again?

[pine roost]

They feel better to control that’s for sure

But in terms of firepower, about the same

[arctic grove]

And is the Railguntank nerfed?

[pine roost]

Capable of sniping infantry, can take out tanks in 2 strafes most of the time, but are most effective against other aircraft

[arctic grove]

So no

[next onyx]

I've only had alcohol and noodles.

[arctic grove]

Sad whats going on in that game... what is dice doing?

[pine roost]

Nah the railgun tank probably won’t get much changes since for it to be nerfed to any considerable degree it would have to be fundamentally changed

[arctic grove]

It have to be deleted xD

[pine roost]

Working on it, not sure if you knew this but no less than 2 or so weeks ago there was a gigantic thread asking specifically for jet feedback

Now that maps are getting reworks, and classes are back alongside specialist balance changes, their emphasis now seems to be on vehicles finally

[arctic grove]

I think that the Infanterie(is that english?) is more supportet then the Vehicles

[next onyx]

I actually do have an idea.

[next onyx]

Reduce MAUL shell velocity to keep it for transports and tanks.

[arctic grove]

The Guys on the ground can kill vehicles far to easy

[next onyx]

Keep HAMMER for striking nimble targets.

[pine roost]

I suppose so

I don’t like using it so I didn’t even know there was a second weapon

[next onyx]

Hell.

Increase the charge up time.

To counterract the damage.

[pine roost]

That would actually help a fair bit

[remote meteor]

how is the aek and rpk 74m?Didn‘t play yet since 4.1

[next onyx]

AEK rips.

RPK is alright.

[magic bloom]

Eat an actual meal you goober

[pine roost]

Don’t forget sleep

Had a good 10 hour sleep last night and it’s rejuvenating

[next onyx]

Yeah I crashed earlier.

[pearl ridge]

Man, V just plays so much nicer

And that music, my god.

[pine roost]

Must return to fg42

[pearl ridge]

Me, it was the Drilling that brought me back

[pine roost]

Good choice

[opal swallow]

no one in game is willing to tell me wich assault rifle mag will 1 shot ppl and wich mag cans hoot thru objects/walls, anyone here can tell me?

[next onyx]

Fg42 yes.

[pine roost]

All types should kill people in one mag, I can’t think of any that can’t get multiple kills per mag

[next onyx]

I got that thing to 50K kills.

I loved that thing to bits.

[pine roost]

I can’t remember the name of it but it was like the M1985147395891848 or something

[next onyx]

What's with the kill difference hello?

[pine roost]

Tompson looking thing

[next onyx]

Thompson looking thing.

M1928a1.

That was a fun gun.

[pine roost]

I was close

[opal swallow]

i mean 1 bullet or 2 bullets

[pine roost]

There aren’t any

[pearl ridge]

Good god, if the Drilling was in 2042 this thing would be just a few kills off T1

[opal swallow]

there is and must be happens to me all the time

[pearl ridge]

It’s got more than the Garand!

[opal swallow]

shot thru walls or 1 or 2 shot by assaults

[pine roost]

Well there aren’t any that oneshot behind snipers

[next onyx]

Since we were on about MG's I was thinking of either the m1919 or the m1922.

Assault rifles are only a 2HK to the head.

And both must hit the head.

[pine roost]

It might feel like one shot but it’s multiple

[next onyx]

Well. 28 damage model assault rifles.

The TTD is weird.

[pine roost]

Probably due to the server performance

[opal swallow]

ahhh i see 😮

[pine roost]

I’m constantly killed behind cover as I’m turning a corner

[opal swallow]

yeah exactly that

or i die and then the dude pops up around cornor

and my internet seems all fine to

[pearl ridge]

Weapon balance is so much better in V.

Helps that effective ranges aren’t like two hundred metres for ARs

[pine roost]

Like this, I questioned whether someone could have shot my legs but it doesn’t seem like it

[opal swallow]

ye kinda like that indeed

thnx for explanation

[pine roost]

Just a quirk of 128 players

[opal swallow]

makes alot more sense now lol thnx

[pine roost]

Oh wait nvm that was on a 64 player server, I guess you get it no matter the player count

Being the only one in a train carriage and listening to music on your phone is a vibe

[next onyx]

I'm surprised the transports have gone this long before being actually touched.

[pine roost]

Me too…

Me too

It’s been one of the most brought up topics since launch yet only now have they really asked what people think of them

[warm stirrup]

Funny thing is transports are completely ok in portal for the other games

[pine roost]

Their attempts to nerf them have hardly done anything, which really goes to show that fundamentally they can’t be balanced

[warm stirrup]

Portal transports are perfect

[pine roost]

Which makes sense

[next onyx]

What's annoying is their need to go EVERYTHING needs a gun station.

[warm stirrup]

1942, bad company 2, and battlefield 3 transports work as intended

Transport troops

[pine roost]

Better yet, everything needs a gun station with every gun conceivable

I’ve played enough flashpoint breakthrough to see how jeeps can just sit on the hill and pepper you with 30mms

[copper ice]

the jeep 30mm camping is a fucking nightmare

[robust vapor]

and Exposure ^

[pine roost]

Doesn’t add anything to vehicle gameplay aside from another easy way to get kills, but just makes infantry worse

[robust vapor]

gave me ptsd

🙂

[pearl ridge]

Who thought it’d be a good idea to cram 50mm cannons on jeeps

[robust vapor]

50mm is scary if you're accurate as heck

[copper ice]

cannons on transports at all is an unbelievably poor idea

[pearl ridge]

Like. Those are WW2 tank calibre guns

[warm stirrup]

Or when someone brings a vehicle indoors when they're not supposed to, and ruin the whole game

[pearl ridge]

APS can fuck off entirely

[pine roost]

Like they could get rid of all weapons bar miniguns on the jeep, hovercraft and transport helis and I reckon we’d all agree it would feel better

[copper ice]

imo they should remove cannons from the jeep, buff hovercraft and nerf bolte and add an "advanced transports" category and stuff them into it

[warm stirrup]

Transports should be just that...a means of transport

[pine roost]

With guns for defence. Not guns and health pools that perform better than the attack vehicles

[hybrid totem]

bolte needs no more nerf

[pine roost]

The 40mm cannon alone can rack up more kills than even launch state nightbird

[warm stirrup]

Did they ever fix below radar bug?

[pine roost]

Not sure

[magic bloom]

Launch state night bird was nutty

[copper ice]

bolte needs a nerf because its in the wrong category

[hybrid totem]

the category it's in means it needs a buff

[pine roost]

It’s in a much better place now, ever since they shifted the power towards miniguns and away from rockets

[magic bloom]

Why do people pick the bolte when the MAV and CAV exist

[copper ice]

there's no way to buff it because it only has 1 passenger slot

[hybrid totem]

There's one very simple fix for the bolte

[warm stirrup]

Delete it

[hybrid totem]

delete the game, call your lawyer

[warm stirrup]

Bolte is useless ever since rockets were nerfed

[hybrid totem]

It would not be useless if they put it back in the light transpo category

[robust vapor]

rip scarab car

[magic bloom]

I Wonder if they’d ever add attack jets in this game

[hybrid totem]

ok so new fix - give the bolte wings

[warm stirrup]

Are these not attack jets?

[static prairie]

U mean jets against ground enemies?

[robust vapor]

so you want a tanky cockroach

[hybrid totem]

seriously, the missile launcher is akin to what we want in attack jets, no?

[robust vapor]

[magic bloom]

I Call them stealth jets cause of Bf4’s F35

[warm stirrup]

Sr-71 would be a stealth jet

Blackbird

[magic bloom]

Well I’m pretty sure they called them stealth jets in 4

And technically the F35 and SU57 are still stealth jets

[next onyx]

You know what.

[magic bloom]

Since they employ stealth tech

[next onyx]

CCT suppressor on Rm277 is a straight bonus.

[magic bloom]

What way

No way

[next onyx]

The default suppressor.

Yus way.

[magic bloom]

The default suppressor fucks

[next onyx]

Plus haha legendary suppressor skin.

I wish the extended mag was black.

At least high powered looks the part.

[magic bloom]

Yeah

High powered on an already high powered gun

[pine roost]

I doubt we’ll be seeing attack jets anytime soon

As much as I’d absolutely love to see them, given the current state of well, everything, it’s the last thing we need

[next onyx]

Attack jets would ruin things.

[pine roost]

It would be even more anti infantry splash damage

And considering we already have transport jeeps with 30mms +, transport helis with miniguns and splash weapons, a helicopter with precision or splash damage, SPH launchers, tanks who all have explosive secondary weapons, XM airburst, armoured transports with a plethora of those weapons and more, it’ll just add to the mayhem

[next onyx]

Actually you know what'd be a great idea?

For bug tracking and all that.

[pine roost]

A few adjustments to the current jets could make them capable of anti infantry just without splash damage, while excelling at anti air with some decent anti tank potential

[next onyx]

You know how Doom can record demos right?

How it shows a log of movement etc.

[pine roost]

No clue

[next onyx]

Ah like through a command you can do a recording.

[pine roost]

Not like screen recording?

[next onyx]

And it's used to verify speedruns in the event of cheating.

It's... Weird.

I dunno how to describe it.

[low timber]

Then we’d finally caught you Way

[pine roost]

I get what you mean though

[next onyx]

But it'd be great for bug tracking because dice could see how the game is interacting at that specific period in time.

[magic bloom]

I feel like if we added attack jets they need little to no splash damage

[pine roost]

Although, they’d have to keep a log of every single player in a lobby, 128 players who all have numerous inputs and interactions each second, to either store or watch. I’d imagine that would be hell to implement. Don’t forget doom is singleplayer so the number of players to log is only one

[warm stirrup]

Would anyone be interested in infected? Survivors must live until time runs out, infected must infect everyone?

[pine roost]

If the attack jet has no splash damage, it probably won’t have dumbfire bombs, so I don’t know what it would have that differentiates it besides a slower turn rate

[magic bloom]

Well I mean my main issue in Bf4 on the attack jets was the cannon

[hybrid totem]

a different silhouette

[magic bloom]

The missiles and stuff never killed me but I also never played pc

[arctic grove]

SA console servers are DEAD

[pine roost]

Jdams were hella fun but I can’t see them adding them yet

[next onyx]

AH RIGHT NOW I REMEMBER.

What it does is that it plays the game using a set of commands that you have made.

[pine roost]

But if they were to address some of this aoe spam and weapon vehicles, there might be room to add said weaponry and it not feel like a pain

[warm stirrup]

I wish they brought back 128 bots. Was really fun

[next onyx]

Entities will be rendered as if as well.

[pine roost]

Twitch plays doom

[next onyx]

Such as that in a hell knight goes to the right it'll repeat htat in the demo.

Yeah with battlefield that might be a little too complicated.

[pine roost]

So it’s like recording a replay of a full match in something like Overwatch but it just plays it out in real time by readin the inputs sequentially rather than simply showing where players are at a point in time

[next onyx]

Yeah.

Those entities will repeat those commands.

[pearl ridge]

Orbital B1 spawn point sucks ass

[pine roost]

I like the idea but yeah In bf it sounds practically impossible

[pearl ridge]

It always drops you in the middle of an empty field to die immediately

[magic bloom]

They won’t add it cause it’s to complex but I’d love to see laser guided bombs one day

[hybrid totem]

great idea y'all. Next up:

Battlefield: Doom

[pine roost]

The jdams are too complex or laser guided are?

[next onyx]

The best you can do is get them to re rendered as AI. But to get their specific weapons will be difficult.

[pine roost]

I thought the ones we already have are laser guided

[glacial quarry]

they need to add option for you to play in other region

[warm stirrup]

Just play with bots

[magic bloom]

Laser guided bombs

[hybrid totem]

You can be a space marine or infected space marine in any one of four classes. vehicles would be actual vehicles for the space marines and the upgraded enemies for the demon side

[pine roost]

So one person marks a spot and someone else hits it with it?

[magic bloom]

Are you talking about laser guided bombs?

[pine roost]

Yeah

[hybrid totem]

BF: Doom. More popular than Hardline.

[magic bloom]

Typically laser guided bombs are dropped and lased by the same plane either with a built in designator or a specific targeting pod

[warm stirrup]

Don't forget ea did make a lord of the rings battlefield game

[magic bloom]

But they can only go so far cause they’re working off the energy from falling

[pine roost]

They could just add the JDAM then allow it to lock on to soflams for a similar functionality

But setting up a target through a targeting camera just takes too long, I wouldn’t ever find it any more beneficial to do over simply flying over and dropping it manually

[warm stirrup]

Lord of the rings conquest played similar to the original battlefront games

Even had a conquest mode

[magic bloom]

And the Stealth heli bombs are Guided bombs typically guided by a specific interface which is why they have those little wings when they drop

[pine roost]

However, if they refuse to allow for jet control in rear cam view I wouldn’t mind some form of targeting camera that allows you to quickly scan the ground to find targets, since that was one of the main uses of the rear cam outside of dogfights

Basically the bf1 camera but you can move it

[magic bloom]

I mean for laser guiders typically once you designate a target the laser locks in place and won’t move until you either move it yourself or the thing just can’t turn anymore

So your typically not stuck there just waiting for it to hit

[pine roost]

I know about how they work, I’ve played enough Arma to have a grasp on how it functions, but even then I just wouldn’t find it to be a better option

[magic bloom]

Yeah it’s just something fun

Speaking of ARMA I need to get into it

Bought the game on sale for 10 dollars and never played

[pine roost]

I mean I guess it could potentially be one of those things where new players can use it to make it easier, but the downside is that setup time

But experienced players just know the drop naturally and can perform it quicker

Since you’ve always got that balance between ease of use and effectiveness which is always important to consider

[magic bloom]

I mean let’s be honest you could probably just set it up like the alternate camera on the stealth heli bombs and have it work that way

[next onyx]

Oh yeah since med pen is locked to assault naturally it'll over take every other gadget mastery you have.

Kinda funny.

[magic bloom]

Unless you just don’t play assault

[next onyx]

Yeah though it's really easy.

[magic bloom]

Ever thought of that huh way?

No I bet you didn’t you goober

[next onyx]

Assault brings me joy.

[warm stirrup]

Grapple hook brings me joy

[next onyx]

I did get a Zain moment where I shot my XM at one person but it turns out there were three with them.

[pine roost]

Support is the go to for me now

Infinite sustain

[magic bloom]

I’m turning into an Engie and recon player

[pine roost]

Zain’s XM just isn’t fun to use anymore since they made it thermal, mackay is great but I’d rather just have that constant healing

[magic bloom]

I had fun just spotting people for way in the railgun tank

Picture credit goes to hacker man way

[warm stirrup]

Does anyone play engineer?

[magic bloom]

Me

[pine roost]

Whenever there is a vehicle that needs dealing with

[magic bloom]

Why do you ask

[warm stirrup]

Just curious

[pine roost]

Most players I’ve seen, especially in past titles, commonly complain about a vehicle but never actually switch to an engineer to deal with them

[pearl ridge]

I’m always playing engineer because I hate enemy vehicles

But NOBODY ELSE HELPS

[magic bloom]

I’m either playing rao or Crawford

[warm stirrup]

Who would y'all say is the best engineer?

[magic bloom]

If you were in American servers I’d help you out by hacking them with hacker man

[magic bloom]

Probably lis if your not driving a vehicle

But I’m a Crawford enjoyer

[pearl ridge]

Why are sniper rifles so crap anyway? Feels like they can’t hit a thing.

[warm stirrup]

Crawford minigun doesn't help with vehicles?

[pearl ridge]

And you can’t tell me that doming someone from two hundred metres doesn’t count as a marksman kill!

[magic bloom]

Aircraft and light vehicles it does

[pine roost]

I play boris as my engineer, his turret is good for spotting

[next onyx]

Railgun thermal 6x ez.

[magic bloom]

I killed a condor with his minigun once

[warm stirrup]

Out of all 17 maps (11 base, 6 portal) which would y'all say is the best map?

[pine roost]

None really get my excited when I see them pop up

[warm stirrup]

Same sadly

[pine roost]

Orbital is probably the only one I mildly enjoy

Not like bfV where there were plenty I loved. Although I did play mostly tdm for the last year or so

[magic bloom]

Stranded or exposure

[pine roost]

So some tdm maps were better than playing on the main modes

[magic bloom]

Stranded is just a meat grinder on bt

[warm stirrup]

Even hardline had some worthy maps

[pine roost]

discarded is my most hated at the moment

kaleidoscope is decent aside from defence spawns on the last sector

[warm stirrup]

Will discarded rework be stranded 2.0?

[pine roost]

no clue

[warm stirrup]

Seems like an easy cop out

Hopefully not tho

[pine roost]

well it's not going to completely change the layout of the map

stranded is designed to look somewhat like a spider if that makes sense, central zone with paths branching out and curving back around multiple islands. Discarded will still have the same structure so it won't feel the same as stranded

[warm stirrup]

Are there tornados on the portal maps?

[pine roost]

haven't seen any

[next onyx]

Not really.

Don't understand why they would.

[warm stirrup]

Like they were never programmed for the portal maps

[pine roost]

consistency I suppose. Although in reality the tornado practically does nothing

I've only had a single instance where it actually saved me

[next onyx]

Tornados are more forgettable.

[warm stirrup]

Portal maps actually have destructible environments

Wonder if the tornado would have interacted with the environment

[magic bloom]

Ngl I might have to use the thing I hate most

The stealth heli

[pine roost]

why do you have to use it

[warm stirrup]

If you can't beat em join em

[pine roost]

stealth heli is fun with the hmgs

it's flight assist is minimal compared to the nightbird and it's yaw feels like that perfect balance between weighty and responsive

so it's actually good for being accurate

[arctic forge]

Alguien de españa para poder jugar online?

[pine roost]

although finding that sweet spot for convergence takes some practise

[magic bloom]

This

It’s like the only thing that can counter another one

[pine roost]

try jets, or a wildcat

[magic bloom]

I cant fly Jets for shit and the wildcat is boring

[pine roost]

well if the wildcat does the job why not just use that

[magic bloom]

Cause I don’t like it

And they’ll just hit flares and avoid me the whole game

[pine roost]

flares can't block cannons

Using lock ons isn’t worth it in a wildcat unless you are certain they have no flares

[magic bloom]

Plus if I wanna kill the thing I’ll use the TOR

[next onyx]

Wtf.

I've never seen a paint explosion.

[pine roost]

You sure you aren’t playing splatoon

[next onyx]

KEK.

I just ran over this... burst of colour thought it was a graphic bug.

But no it was just this fire blue paint splatter.

[pine roost]

This fella who was speaking spanish earlier is asking me if there is a spanish discord or channel for finding groups, do you know if there is one?

[next onyx]

Not that I am aware of.

[pine roost]

there's an fnb spanish chat, given that It's unusual that there aren't chats for other languages

[spiral folio]

For business talk

[slender isle]

Use them to get the flare pop out

So you pop one, let them flare

Then pop another after they are unflared

Usually works

Unless they fly away, which is a good thing as well

[next onyx]

You don't want them to fly away you want to mince them with your 30MM AA cannons.

Heatseekers just tell them where you are.

Versus waiting for them to get closer and ripping them a new one.

[slender isle]

This is mainly done after that

[pine roost]

My way of thinking is that when you first engage a heli, you have the element of surprise. If you start locking then they can find where you are, and are given ample time to dip or flare to degate all damage you could deal. Alternatively you could initiate with the 30's, and by the time theyve realised they are being shot they could have lost 1/3 of their health. Then they need to find you and retreat. But if you lock them as they are leaving, they then have to wait for their flare cooldown as well as their health to regen

[spiral folio]

The way I do it is fire the guns til they about overheat then fire a missle, fire the guns, fire missile. The idea is making sure the enemy always has to use flares. Then if you dont hit? An ally might. It also keeps the pilot occupied nonstop and doing more. That keeps them in a state of constantly occupied and less able to concentrate

[pine roost]

so yes, lock ons can be useful but for intiiating a fight it just gives them too much of a forewarning

but you can occasionally catch someone off guard with a double rocket, those instances are rare and I'd rather continously fire the 30s

[spiral folio]

Alternate like i said

Just keep it coming

[pine roost]

mixing cannons with rockets can also work, but oftentimes a pilot I end up fighitng will only properly retreat when they hear the lock indicator, so I try to keep them up in my cone of vision for as long as possible by sticking to the main guns

[next onyx]

Only use lock ons if the craft has expended their flares.

Easy damage that way.

[spiral folio]

Making it retreat is just as good as killing it. The idea is remove it from usefulness

[next onyx]

Took me long enough.

Eh destroy the vehicle so it can't do anything at all.

[spiral folio]

Especially if it's loaded. Like if you can make a transport run away with 4 passengers you've effectively removed 5 people and the vehicle from combat until the pilot wants to come back

[pine roost]

Yes, but if you use the rockets too soon they may retreat before you get any damage off, holding off that rocket in some instances could keep them in the air air long enough to outright kill them

then of course use the rocket as they retreat so they are out of combat for as long as possible

[spiral folio]

It pulls like 1/6th of their whole team from the battle if you can drive them off the combat zone

[pine roost]

which since it's a transport is very useful

[spiral folio]

And then no spawning too

[pine roost]

given their weaponry

[next onyx]

Eh transports can still flank and get their job done.

best way to do it is just outright kill them.

[spiral folio]

Yea so 3 big weapons a spawn point and passengers just twiddling their thumbs. Like ideally kill it but still if you can make it useless it's a good 2nd place

[pine roost]

well in the best case that is always the best solution

[robust vapor]

standard tank with STAFF shell is great

[spiral folio]

The super ideal solution is like permanently removing it ie stealing it or it being "lost"

I had one i knocked the pilot out and it landed in top of a box on spearhead

[pine roost]

yeah it's funny when that happens

as a nightbird the best way to take one out is to snipe the pilot which is very easy

there have been so many free kills where no passengers realise their driver is dead

[magic bloom]

I didnt mean to invite you way

Sorry

[next onyx]

Ah fair.

Don't stress.

[wide shore]

Abandoned vehicles only stay around for so long. They just blow up after a while

But. Still a valid strategy

And funny

[spiral folio]

Yea this one was there for quite a while luckily. I thought about destroying it and left it

Like waaaait a minute :v

We've got something here

[pine roost]

at least it's not like arma where the vehicles can just keep on driving because they are holding the pedal or something

[wide shore]

Them blowing up is good

[magic bloom]

Why is my horizontal speed so slow

[wide shore]

People get vehicles stuck in some wild spots. Ideally we’d want people to make their vehicles matter by taking care of them and not leaving them. But this is BF we’re talking about. People park transports up a tree

[cunning knoll]

Do people happen to get them stuck in trenches?

[pine roost]

if it is a spot, a vehicle has been stuck there

it's like that one cat quote

[cunning knoll]

Fun

[wide shore]

There’s trenches in this game?

[spiral folio]

Bf1 took the cake for vehicles being stuck

[magic bloom]

Yeah on some maps

[spiral folio]

"Lets cross thjs antivehicle trench"
Ah dont its a trench to stop vehicles

Tooo late

[cunning knoll]

I don't know I will admit I haven't played 2042 but that was a reference to Battlefield 1 and Enlisted

[pine roost]

The driver:

[spiral folio]

Queue 20 minutes of forward and reverse

Getoutsoicandestroyit!!

[magic bloom]

I think I just gave this tanker a heart attack I jumped on their tank and just looked at them with my shield out