battlefield-2042

[glacial quarry]

knife is pay to lose in this game

[fervent rose]

knifing is just slow in general

[arctic grove]

And the electric baton is bugged

[fervent rose]

unless im out of ammo i shoot the guy

[arctic grove]

I like the axe tho

You press melee and it stays in ur hand

Instead of fucking off and being switched to primary

[magic bloom]

Give me a shield melee animation for dozer where I just crush their head with it

The damn things gotta be heavy the way he swings it

[upbeat sand]

They should let Dozer takedown with the sheild so he can have 2 different takedowns

[magic bloom]

Yes

[arctic grove]

Did anyone notice they changed sundances voice

Its not the playful crap anymore

[upbeat sand]

Been like that for a lil bit

[magic bloom]

They did the same to mackay awhile back

[arctic grove]

Yeah he sounds like he’s been thru some shit

[magic bloom]

I miss the original Canadian spider mans lines

[upbeat sand]

I mean

Makay's bio is mmmmmm

[brazen bluff]

Are there dedicated servers in BF2042?

[arctic grove]

Is it

[upbeat sand]

He basically just gave up on life after his dad died

[glacial quarry]

sudance wingsuit is a free kill

idk why ppl use it

the normal fall is quite fast already

[arctic grove]

Its worth the extra speed and bomb to get the c5 planted

[glacial quarry]

ig it depends how ppl use it

so many sudances fly so slowly i tank shell them mid air

the fast flying ones can be easily taken down with lmg too

or RM68

[arctic grove]

Have to wait until the flight is actually moving so you can exit at speed then use the wingsuit

[glacial quarry]

like on exposure everytime i see a sudance flying towards B from A i just crouch and lmg them usually dies in 2 second

[arctic grove]

I’ve rarely been shot while doing it and i do primarily use sundance

But i also change directions by exiting it and then reengaging it rather than turning in it

Anyone tries more gliding than diving is gonna get shot ezpz

[glacial quarry]

people use sudance just because its cool but its like the worst assault class

the nade isnt even good

default frag nade >>

[magic bloom]

Dozer is the best obviously

[inner ether]

The SPH launcher is cancer for vehicles

[arctic grove]

I use sundance to disrupt enemy positions where i see my team going static. works nicely and often gets them to start pushing again once i’ve taken out vehicles and dismount support at choke points

[glacial quarry]

mackay and zain are the best then dozer then sudance

[magic bloom]

Ew mackay

[glacial quarry]

mackay and zain is debatable

[magic bloom]

My first tier 1

[glacial quarry]

zain is obv easier to use his airburst

but his passive is hard to master

[magic bloom]

I think they both have good traits

[arctic grove]

Like last night on renewal at the wall i came in, killed 4 then c5’d the wildcat and my team came pouring through

[magic bloom]

Like Zain is more of an assaulter and mackay is a flanker

[arctic grove]

Came back later and cleared a doorway fight

[next onyx]

Babe it's time to be put on a team that even you have no idea what they're doing for the third time in a row.

Yes honey.

[arctic grove]

Sundance needs to have good pilots actually flying. Once you have that and a sense of how the battlefield looks you can do quite a bit in terms of momentum shifting

[fresh cairn]

@next onyx alchy is yum

[glacial quarry]

use mackay if ur using lmg, or if ur in a place where the grapple is super useful

otherwise use zain

[next onyx]

@fresh cairn Are you ok.

[fresh cairn]

Server boosting is fucked

[glacial quarry]

you dont need the mackay passive for rifles and smg

[next onyx]

Ayo mate's enjoying himself.

[fresh cairn]

I can posted some shit now

[glacial quarry]

just lmg

[next onyx]

You're missing the AEK farm.

[magic bloom]

Welcome to the club

[fresh cairn]

Nah yea I’m algudies

[next onyx]

But I hope you're having fun at least.

Yeah when you pinged me saying help I got concerned you took some spiked shit.

AEK is really good by the way.

[fresh cairn]

Old school mates and work mates are giving me drinks

[next onyx]

It's improving my aim again.

Ahhhh.

[fresh cairn]

I’ll be maybe and hour or 2 max then I’ll be on

Cunt your aim is meth incarnate

[magic bloom]

We never got a squad together way you lied to me

[fresh cairn]

My aim is better in micro adjustments but your tracking is more consistent unless I’ve eaten

[magic bloom]

I Just suck at the game

But if you need some mobile cover I’m your person

[fresh cairn]

You going from Xbox to PC I was pleasantly surprised that your skill carried over it made me proud like a dad @next onyx

[fresh cairn]

We both suck but farm crops yes

Haha hella headshots

[magic bloom]

MY GOD

[fresh cairn]

@ripe hedge nerf railgun

[fervent rose]

20 shots per magazine is balanced

[inner ether]

The Bolte should not exist on Breakthrough.

It's such a horrendously bad vehicle

[magic bloom]

It shouldn’t even be an armored transport

[glacial quarry]

remember when it was op

[magic bloom]

The good old days

[inner ether]

Why does the Bolte take up a transport slot even?

[fresh cairn]

Rush XL just proved how broken the railgun is @grand barn can approve this msg

[upbeat sand]

I lost my boost when it ran out since I didn't have it on subscription

[inner ether]

It has nothing to do in that category

[paper nova]

is there somewhere i can find updated weapon info?

[next onyx]

I'm surprised too.

[arctic grove]

Hey am I the only one who thinks that the aek is quite strong?

[fresh cairn]

@magic bloom railgun op

[arctic grove]

[next onyx]

It took me a bit to get my aim there.

[magic bloom]

How do you do this

I need Training

[arctic grove]

Pc

[fresh cairn]

I was surprised but not at that same time like switching is a thing but we’re ADHD and Autistic as fuck so it makes sense

[glacial quarry]

think most of those are AI kills

[arctic grove]

Lmao i love that damn thing

[glacial quarry]

so many AI on the enemy team

[arctic grove]

You absolute idot

Flex about your skills

[fresh cairn]

Rush XL hell even BT with railgun

[glacial quarry]

its end of the round too so there are prob way more AI nearer to the start

[arctic grove]

BUT YOUR OBJECTIVE RIBBON IS 1

[fresh cairn]

Made

[glacial quarry]

ya most are AI kills

[next onyx]

I dunno Asto. We played with each other back at Xbox alongside other cracked people.

[fresh cairn]

I’m a bot @arctic grove

[magic bloom]

Teach me the way, Way

[fresh cairn]

@next onyx can confirm

[fresh cairn]

Be autistically autistic

Trust me

Ego chall at 1hp

[arctic grove]

😕

[fresh cairn]

Ez win

[magic bloom]

I mean

[next onyx]

You're the one that always did the weird pushes.

[arctic grove]

I hope my son can be as casual about autism as you are

[arctic grove]

everyone knows you can't flex unless your objective ribbon is 2 or 3

[magic bloom]

I Just have severe ADHD

[arctic grove]

jaja yes

stomach neurons

[next onyx]

My favourite part is that I'm reminded what's left of our comp community in that they are literally spastics.

[glacial quarry]

spastics?

[arctic grove]

I'm the mid menace console menace
but as soon as I turn crossplay on I start doing just fine

The power of the fox and lack of neurons

[fresh cairn]

Crop farming > PTFO

[arctic grove]

lol

[glacial quarry]

^

[arctic grove]

still, you must get objective ribbon 2 at least

or else

you die

[fresh cairn]

OCE comp isn’t even comp it’s just Randy’s that think they’re good

[next onyx]

Ego driven idiots.

[fresh cairn]

LCMG understands pubs

[arctic grove]

I'm driven by the memes

[glacial quarry]

sometimes i get 120 kills in a 30min match and someone with 4 objective ribbons take the cake

[magic bloom]

See we’d have a greet team dynamic you all do the killing I do the team support and obj capturing

[fresh cairn]

If it’s a scrim ye I’ll anchor a point

[arctic grove]

kills don't win you the game

[glacial quarry]

but at least objectives is understandable

[fresh cairn]

Pubs has no rules I won’t use a K30 or 12m though I’m not a cheese bot

[glacial quarry]

K30 is shit tho

[arctic grove]

I once got 140 kills, we still got owned

[fresh cairn]

I respect the affinity to the LCMG join the AEK boys pls

[arctic grove]

I just unlocked k30 last night

[fresh cairn]

Be a degen

[glacial quarry]

no

[arctic grove]

I want to give it a try

[fresh cairn]

Use it if you’re gay

[glacial quarry]

i hate aek mains in bf4

[arctic grove]

lol

[glacial quarry]

i main shotgun to meme on them

beat cancer with more cancer

[arctic grove]

aek is kind of busted

[fresh cairn]

See the thing is the BF3 AEK is better than the BF4

[arctic grove]

you can outsnipe people with iron sights

[magic bloom]

Me an AK24 enjoyer

[glacial quarry]

i know

but rm68 exists

[fresh cairn]

It’s only hated cause the “sweats” use it

[glacial quarry]

no point using aek now

[arctic grove]

Me still waiting on a AN-94…..

Yeah you're right

[fresh cairn]

Same with Mackay hey got nerfed cause the 1% made him good

[arctic grove]

the classic

[next onyx]

There is literally zero reason for the fucking short barrel to exist on the RM.

[fresh cairn]

Now everyone uses Falck

[arctic grove]

lol

[glacial quarry]

i still use mackay

also

[arctic grove]

falck is actually fine

[glacial quarry]

i dont even know if i like the aek that much

[arctic grove]

just mid/average

[glacial quarry]

idk if the 100 rpm is worth not using M16 instead that thing is insanely accurate

[ripe hedge]

no

[glacial quarry]

for cqb def aek tho

railgun is fine

[magic bloom]

Buff dozer

Make him invulnerable

[arctic grove]

m16 is fine for mid/short distances

[next onyx]

Alex!

[glacial quarry]

theres literally only one guy i see good with railgun

[next onyx]

AEK is good.

It's very good!

[glacial quarry]

it is

[magic bloom]

Look it’s Alex

[glacial quarry]

it is also insane for long range

[arctic grove]

if you can control it

[glacial quarry]

aek dont feel super accurate past 60m

[arctic grove]

which is a bit hard on console

[arctic grove]

depends on sight

[glacial quarry]

ya i understand

[fresh cairn]

Uhhh wot railgun is fine right

[magic bloom]

Any gun is op if you use it right

[arctic grove]

for some reason iron sights in the aek seems to not have that much recoil

[glacial quarry]

yeah 3 quarter of your kills are on AI

[arctic grove]

the only difference is how much you need to master them

[glacial quarry]

no offense but the majority of players there are AI

[magic bloom]

Like I’d take my AK24 over almost every other gun cause I know it like the back of my hand

[arctic grove]

you can be either the average scar user and get dozens of skills without that much skill, or be a vcar legend

[magic bloom]

I was a VCAR enjoyer at one point way can back me up

[glacial quarry]

like 26/64 of their team is actual players, also its likely much less nearer to the start of the game, also youre way more likely to kill AI than players

[inner ether]

The battle pass throws balance into the trash and I hate it

[glacial quarry]

so prob like 80% of your kills are AI

[arctic grove]

sadly yes

[glacial quarry]

its still a lot of player kills for a railgun

[arctic grove]

mostly cuz players play more campy

[inner ether]

Every time there's an AT assignment playing a vehicle means you're just target practice for an entire team full of AT

[glacial quarry]

but im just saying i only ever saw one good railgun player

xFriess-TTV look up his profile

[arctic grove]

I like the vcar

https://tenor.com/view/fernanfloo-gif-22398739

[magic bloom]

VCAR Is amazing

[arctic grove]

embed still doesn't work

[arctic grove]

not as good as carabines were in bfv

trench carabine is op

[magic bloom]

Although after like one match my finger is killing me when I die the VCAR

[arctic grove]

yeah I get that

[magic bloom]

Console problems :(

[next onyx]

This isn't my night. Four matches in a row where my team cannot fucking hold.

[arctic grove]

I play on ps4

[magic bloom]

Way I’m telling you

I’ll hold the cap points

[glacial quarry]

skill issue

[arctic grove]

I get to watch poligony characters for the first third of the match

[magic bloom]

You poor soul

[glacial quarry]

you are obviously not carrying ur team hard enough

[arctic grove]

do a barrel roll

[arctic grove]

nah

It's funny as hell

[magic bloom]

Sweat harder at the game way

[glacial quarry]

https://battlefieldtracker.com/bf2042/profile/origin/xFreiss-YT/overview this is the best railgun player i know

[arctic grove]

seeing a bunch of cubes attack an objective is what keeps my mood up

[glacial quarry]

he plays BT and only averages like 40-50 kills on a 25min match

[magic bloom]

I Love how the with RPT the operators C-Clamp it

[glacial quarry]

and hes insanely good

[arctic grove]

bring back the boomstick

[magic bloom]

That’s called the Super 500

The super shorty

[arctic grove]

Why the fuck does it have that much range??

[magic bloom]

Cause it’s a shotgun

[glacial quarry]

try the ak shotgun grenade launcher

[arctic grove]

oh yeah

[glacial quarry]

[arctic grove]

forgot that

[magic bloom]

Shotguns can go way farther than you think

[glacial quarry]

the aek shotgun launcher can one shot from 30 meters

[magic bloom]

The 880’s range is just dogshit

[glacial quarry]

not even kidding

its only one shot tho

[next onyx]

I can't carry fucking morons.

[magic bloom]

I believe in you way

[glacial quarry]

you can

[magic bloom]

You can do it!

[arctic grove]

the best way to enjoy a loosing match is to MEME

[glacial quarry]

well on BT you can

idk about conquest

[next onyx]

Honestly it's battlefield. No one does shit.

[arctic grove]

breakthough lobbies are 100% dead in console

[glacial quarry]

i had a match on BT breakway once

offense. first 10 min of objective C everyone but me and like 3 ppl were camping on the mountain

instead of going down

[magic bloom]

Hey I actually play the objective when I’m not being an armored taxi taking players to the objective

[glacial quarry]

both tanks camping on the mountain

we still eventually managed to take it

and win

i was screaming at my team the whole time

[arctic grove]

I wish console lobbies in bt weren't dead

[magic bloom]

Should I try my absolute hardest as dozer and see how good I do? I haven’t tried at the game in months

[glacial quarry]

even the fucking helis were hovering on the hill

[fervent rose]

breakthrough's statistics are completely bogged down by attacker teams choosing to not press the w key

[glacial quarry]

go mackay if u want to sweat

[fervent rose]

and i bet dice thinks the mode is fine

[magic bloom]

I’ll do it once

[glacial quarry]

i think it depends

[fervent rose]

nah, when the attacking team moves up, you win so fucking fast

[glacial quarry]

i won some defenses against much teams who were constantly pushing

[arctic grove]

dozer is niche

[glacial quarry]

thats when kills matter

[robust vapor]

Exposure BT at C sectors suck

especially C1

[arctic grove]

I've been playing him for a week (1/4 of my time play bf2042) and his shield is very very incosistent

[glacial quarry]

i have 100% winrate on exposure BT defense

[fervent rose]

exposure BT is chalked

[glacial quarry]

pretty certain

[magic bloom]

Dozer is amazing

[glacial quarry]

i just drive the tank into B1 every time

[robust vapor]

it sucks as attackers

[glacial quarry]

good luck

[robust vapor]

🙂

[glacial quarry]

its a terrible map

[arctic grove]

when he works

he is incosistent sadly

[robust vapor]

fucking disgusting tank camping at tunnel

[fervent rose]

exposure used to be a fun bt map

[glacial quarry]

not tunnel

[fervent rose]

maybe the best one in the game

[glacial quarry]

inside the conference room lmfao

cant beat that

[magic bloom]

Dozer isn’t inconsistent you just have to learn shield placement

[glacial quarry]

tank+ram inside

ram covers stairs

tank covers main entrance

[robust vapor]

oh god then there's me with the SCAR AP nades

just recently took out a ram with it

it's also getting old with the players in my team ignoring a tank

[magic bloom]

Look at my dozer drip

[arctic grove]

he looks like he's about to throw a grenade at a bunch of protestors

/

[fresh cairn]

They changed Dozers T1 right?

[arctic grove]

peruvian police

[magic bloom]

Yeah they increased it

[arctic grove]

I think dozer's mastery shouldn't be kills with the shield

but rather damage blocked

[magic bloom]

It should

That’s his entire point

[arctic grove]

not really

[fresh cairn]

Isn’t it our right close range kills now

[arctic grove]

it's more of a support and defensive tool

[glacial quarry]

https://streamable.com/6ngd1i try winning on offense when the defense has this

[magic bloom]

I use it more to literally be a shield for my teammates when they push

[fresh cairn]

Based sigmas will join general VC especially @next onyx

[next onyx]

Yus!

[arctic grove]

unpopular opinion incoming

or well

NUKE incoming

dm4 and scar need a nerf

and no matter if I get the hate of every tryhard here

I will defend my point

[sturdy socket]

EBLC-Ram is a hilariously good vehicle

literally hope it is never changed

so lightly armored yet the best glass cannon

[arctic grove]

more recoil, damage falloff and for the dm4 less headshot multiplier

maybe for the scar too, but not that much

[sturdy socket]

DMRs in 2042 are even more cancer than in 4

[arctic grove]

indeed

[fresh cairn]

In 10-15 mins who wants ez 2042 carry

[arctic grove]

cant

you cant

you don't have objective ribbon

[glacial quarry]

everytime i die to an AI its either lcmg or svk

[arctic grove]

you're bad

[fresh cairn]

I am bot @next onyx Carrie’s me

[glacial quarry]

@fresh cairn buy me a vpn

[arctic grove]

yes you are

[glacial quarry]

ill come carry you

[arctic grove]

cuz no objective rebon

[magic bloom]

Way do be carrying

[fresh cairn]

I’m a poor Cunt

[arctic grove]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-suspicious-stare-reaction-gif-gif-26297876

[fresh cairn]

It’s like $25 for a VPN to get into NA West severs

[arctic grove]

I think that the link being there is hilarious

[glacial quarry]

i used to use vpn to play on bf4 oc server

asia server gets ddos every 30min

unplayable

@fresh cairn @next onyx you guys should come play on asia someday

see what its like to have a hacker every 3 games

im gonna see if i can get some free vpn

[arctic grove]

would be hilarious

[glacial quarry]

its what i have to deal with lol

[arctic grove]

NORD VPN

boomm

[glacial quarry]

nordvpn sucks

i used expressvpn

[arctic grove]

I never used a vpn

https://tenor.com/view/fernanfloo-gif-22398739

[glacial quarry]

exitlag still the best for gaming

[arctic grove]

I dunno

I play on console

https://tenor.com/view/kitty-cat-sandwich-cats-sandwich-gif-26112528

[glacial quarry]

wait do i even need a vpn

cant i just join party

of whoever i want to play with

[wide shore]

[sturdy socket]

need to gift this game when it goes on sale

question is when

[arctic grove]

whens summer

[sturdy socket]

in this fucking state??? could be any month

oh you mean that

yeah

[pearl ridge]

I think the 880 is slightly more consistent now.

Slightly. Still only marginally better range than the shorty, but it kills now.

[grizzled whale]

Are classes gone yet?

[half sparrow]

the battlefield community is trash a bunch of call of duty losers who camp and do nothing not a single flag down by 10,000 tickets and these loser douche bags sit in a corner or on a roof staring through a scope never capture a flag battlefield needs to stop this woke a

[spare quest]

[acoustic seal]

i'll read this if you format it into real sentences

[halcyon walrus]

I just got the game, and if I run conquest or 64player games everything gets very laggy and very slow literally slow mo, I meet the requirements and I can tdm just fine. What's happening??

[limber orbit]

how is any of what you described woke?

[halcyon walrus]

Idk

[limber orbit]

not you brother

[acoustic seal]

are you playing solo/coop? it runs the server at a lower tickrate and causes a bunch of timing issues

[halcyon walrus]

Ok bro

[spiral folio]

I think he thinks "woke" just means bad

[spiral folio]

Jets and helicopters usually never capture flags either

So maybe 1 sniper out of 32 people isnt the problem.

[arctic grove]

Can only imagine what you mean with the woke part

#battlefield-legacy-titles message

get a load of this guy

[sturdy socket]

helicopters keep armor down

assuming they do their job right

on the other hand jets kinda are just there

[acoustic seal]

"ban campers from conquest" like conquest isn't the designated containment mode for rat players

[arctic grove]

and he posted e in the wrong channel

He’s basically implying bring back badmins too

At least that’s how I interpreted it

I know it’s probably troll bait but it was interesting to read at least

[dapper night]

There’s still going to be try hards no matter what BF you’ve played AEK in BF3/4, Hellriegel/Automatico/Martini Henry in 1 or hell the 2A or M2 Carbine

[arctic grove]

Yeah

Sadly

lol nerf DM7

Shit barely works at its intended ranges against ARs which all absolutely need their headshot modifier brought back down

Don’t add more recoil, literally just put spread back and tighten up damage drop off distances

DM7 and VCAR are incredibly underwhelming and you’re better off just sticking to the BSV for funny pseudo AR gameplay and the SVK for nice 2 taps

[dapper night]

They’re everywhere I mean do use the Type 2A way back in BFV play like a try hard

[arctic grove]

I genuinely do wanna use the dm7 because I love how it looks but it makes me want to cry when I see how it handles fire rate with any round that isn’t cc rounds

[dapper night]

I mean being better isn’t try hard tbf

[noble meteor]

This recent patch I take it has patched it where portal games count towards progress ?

Kills on my guns don’t count towards, rao spots aren’t going up but yet when I use Caspar they are

[arctic grove]

Actually tryhards swapped to the stg

[acoustic seal]

dice balancing is wild, DMRs are better than ever but they're only relevant with the controller recoil reduction/snap AA since you can otherwise just push ARs out to those ranges

[dapper night]

Depends on the maps tbf

[arctic grove]

VCAR and DM7 still have bloom which, unless you’re probably dealing with a new player or a T1 hunter aren’t used by really anyone when other weapon types are pretty laser-y, it’s kinda reminiscent of the launch situation where everyone used the pp29 because it was the only gun without the rests of the guns bloom

it’s weird how now I sorta get where dice was going with the bloom at launch (although it was absolutely horrible the way they implemented it)

[acoustic seal]

the martini-henry is a meme, the smle carbine does everything it does but better

[spiral folio]

I like when people ask for modern rifles to be less modern

"Recoil is too low" "theyre too accurate"
Yea you jeep saying modern over and over

[arctic grove]

They just need spread not because they’re modern rifles but because the game needs to balance gunplay out with the maps

[acoustic seal]

realism makes shitty gameplay, especially on maps like these where there's nowhere to hide from the lasers

[spiral folio]

Fire rates and recoil are entirely due to buffering and modern materials

It totally effects everything

I think tweaking the bloom would have a big impact. Like have a cooldown after running

[arctic grove]

Not so sure

I see at least 10 stgs every time I play

[spiral folio]

Or a heartrate sort of mechanic similar to suppression. But the spray and prayers would hate it and itd slow down gameplay so itd never happen

Blanket making things less accurate is dumb cause it effectively punishes everyone regardless of gameplay

[acoustic seal]

you want SLOWER gameplay when we already have laser rifles and no cover?

[spiral folio]

We dont have lasers
Yet

[acoustic seal]

people are already deathly afraid to push most of the flags in this game because they're going to get caught in the open and beamed

[spiral folio]

What I'm saying with a heart rate sort of mechanic would be like some situations would make you less accurate for a period of time. Like if you run youll be less accurate for a while til yiu "calm down" which would encourage more tactical movement over run and gun

[arctic grove]

I think enforcing stricter damage drop off rates and spread would work to move players closer together before shooting at one another so it’s not stressful playing something like 128 conquest for example. You can reasonably move provided good traversal routes and you should be good

[dapper night]

It wasn’t used to be a meme

[spiral folio]

Or like if you shot and winged or hit close to somebody itd have a similar heart rate effect

Parachuting or climbing too

[arctic grove]

Map reworks would go along well with something like that IMO. It could def change how 2042 maps play for people

[acoustic seal]

alright so reward camping and bring back suppression so we can reward missing shots too

genius

[spiral folio]

As sun tzu said if the enemy is rushing you. Let them run the whole way

[acoustic seal]

"ptfo" players when i ask them to move toward a flag:

[spiral folio]

Oh no

Thats so out of character

[dapper night]

I’m okay with Suppression as long as it’s visual only like in BFV

[spiral folio]

Nah itd be bloom only

[arctic grove]

I kinda wanna put suppression on just the LMGs too

Visual suppression^

Hell, after all LMGs are used to suppress stuff…

[spiral folio]

Well itd be based on like the amount of suppression being done so lmgs would have more

[acoustic seal]

do you remember what happened im bf1 when spread suppression was in the game? you would lose gunfights because the other person missed their first shots and you hit yours

[eager spire]

@spiral folio could you please stop acting like realism should be something that matters?

[acoustic seal]

it was fucking awful

[eager spire]

Like, genuinely. Please stop.

[spiral folio]

So shoot them first?

[eager spire]

You're adding nothing good to this conversation.

[spiral folio]

Solved

[eager spire]

Just shoot them first
Oh yeah, why didn't i think of that, i should just have complete 100% awareness of anyone that could possibly be looking at me at any given moment, even if there could potentially be multiple people looking at me at the same time and just shoot them both first, it's just that easy.

Please stop talking.

[chilly jacinth]

Just install aimbot

[eager spire]

yeah might as well

[spiral folio]

Anyway like it wouldn't be like bf1 which had like an instant suppression from the first round. Itd build incrementally.

[eager spire]

because that's the only way that could possibly fucking happen with any regular consistency

[pine roost]

nice 👍

[spiral folio]

So like you wouldnt instantly be fullbore suppressed from some random shot

[arctic grove]

Interesting concept

[acoustic seal]

this doesn't solve the problem of rewarding shitters for missing when they start an engagement

[arctic grove]

nvm

[spiral folio]

Except it isnt as bad at all

[arctic grove]

True that

[eager spire]

even if it's incremental, just a bit of suppression would be enough to fuck up someone's aim and not be able to hit them.

[spiral folio]

Like if you fly some random shot off it wont matter as much as like if somebodys been chunkin off shots at you for 10 seconds solid. Like add in a delay

Or have it build on a curve

[eager spire]

this is still rewarding people for missing.

we should probably not do that.

[spiral folio]

It'll never get implemented anyway so its just talk

[eager spire]

i know

it'll not get implemented because it's a bad idea.

but i'm just telling you why it's a bad idea.

because it rewards players for missing.

[spiral folio]

Things will just stay how they are and theyll tweak individual weapon recoil and bloom randomly

[eager spire]

which is a terrible idea in a first person shooter.

like the fact that you would even consider this is insulting. Genuinely disconnect your keyboard.

[arctic grove]

I’d really hate exaggerated recoil WITH spread tbh

Super dated concept, maybe tweak high power rounds for instance but eh

Just brainstorming

[spiral folio]

Yea like "ah people sre making 100m shots with a rifle literally designed to do that." -crank up the spread!-

[arctic grove]

Well again

[eager spire]

we're talking about a video game, and we're also talking about accurate full auto out to that distance.

[spiral folio]

Mickey mousing things people literally asked for

[eager spire]

?????????

[spiral folio]

Lord ive literally never been talking to you whois. Blocked forever ago stop replying to me

[eager spire]

But you're revealing the messages, also you're just saying dumb shit so of course i'm gonna reply to you.

[spiral folio]

Just one with a reply and that. Literally no others.

[arctic grove]

Although modern guns are meant to be accurate 100+ meters you also see in the East how combat works. A bunch of deadzones. Not much crossing the open.

I hope by ‘The East’ you know what I mean

[spiral folio]

Moving on

Yes clearly you mean newyork

[arctic grove]

[eager spire]

well yeah cause Battlefield is obviously not a simulation of how combat or wars work, because it's a video game and an arcade shooter at that.

[arctic grove]

But seriously, although modern guns are accurate, with these maps it’s not suitable. Spread would break down engagement ranges (don’t forget damage drop off too) so it’s a gameplay balance middle ground

[spiral folio]

There was this one real combat documentary im Afghanistan. They had a "sniper" proned in a corn field.

I think the solution was to like artillery the field

[spark rapids]

Day three of protesting until they buff c5

[spiral folio]

Protesting

[arctic grove]

Except funny enough just like in real life, in 2042 you feel discouraged to cross any remotely open piece of land cause you’ll get popped, which is what my point is

[arctic grove]

buff what about it

You have one chance to provide a reasonable answer.

[spiral folio]

Day3 of protest
First ive heard

[spring shell]

are apache and hokum any good ?

im not rlly expert on helis

[spiral folio]

Why. It do the old
"Change your name to the thing you want"

[eager spire]

yeah but considering this is a video game, that sucks ass and is not fun to play. Granted it also sucks ass in real life but you know what we're talking about a video game here so none of that is relevant.

[arctic grove]

They’re good, suggest you run the 127mm rockets which are good against light armor and infantry. Rn I have AGMs too but it won’t hurt to use AAMs to fight helis

[arctic grove]

Oh yeah 100%, it’s a disconnect and it’s really hurting 2042 gameplay

[spark rapids]

Well, first off, why only take 3, when a human can carry at least double that amount with its arms, second, why not make it 3x as powerful? We need to maximize their efectiveness

[arctic grove]

….

[eager spire]

okay but why do they need to be 3x as powerful?

[spiral folio]

Bf2042 heroes

[spark rapids]

Because of transport helis, they should lock on to them and one shot

[arctic grove]

WHAT

[eager spire]

I see, this guy's trolling big time

anyway.

[spiral folio]

Wh...

C5 should lock on?

It is "JuSt A GaMe"

So checks out

[fervent rose]

wait i kinda like that

i throw c5 in air and hind dies

add it pls now

[spiral folio]

C5 should also fly across the map

And be guided

[arctic grove]

And should 1 shot a mav if it locks on from soflam

[spiral folio]

Also go only where you want it to go

[spark rapids]

No im not, transport helis or helis in general are a pain

[spiral folio]

Yes

Oh nah c5 doesnt need a lock

[fervent rose]

this is innovation

[spiral folio]

It just only does good

[eager spire]

they are, but they should be nerfed, there's no good reason to buff C5.

[fervent rose]

inspired innovation

[spiral folio]

Also you can intercept other c5 with your c5

[spark rapids]

Nerf against ground buff against air, easy

[spiral folio]

Just hold it up and it knows what to do

Because its just a game and up is down and wrong is right

[fervent rose]

its just c5 pokemon now

c5 i choose you

[eager spire]

that doesn't make much sense.

[spiral folio]

If anyone disagrees theyre wrong
Because its just a game

[ruby saffron]

Helis are underpowered tho wtf

[eager spire]

i'd sooner buff launchers than buff C5

[arctic grove]

Attack helis are okay

[spiral folio]

Yea the transports are pretty broke flying tanks

[arctic grove]

Wildcat fucks with em a bit so that’s something to be mindful of

[fervent rose]

launchers just got a decent reload buff but could use even more improvements

[spark rapids]

This

[spiral folio]

But that's okay
Nothing matters because intelligent c5 will solve it

[spark rapids]

Make Zain launch c5 off his launcher

[eager spire]

why are you like this

[ruby saffron]

Im not sure why people say the hind is op, its pretty easy to destroy when you target the pilots

[cosmic sequoia]

The super hind is o

P

[spiral folio]

Zain shots will be buffed so that they wont burst til an enemy is near

[dapper night]

This might be a hot take but Mackey and Sundance should be restricted on bringing C5 due to able to kill Tanks and IFVs without a sweat plus it forces the vehicles to camp even with the APS

[ruby saffron]

The attack helos however are annoying as hell

[spiral folio]

They'll just wait for an enemy to show up now

[cosmic sequoia]

I hit a super hind with like 5-6 127mm missiles from the Apache yesterday and did no damage

[arctic grove]

I completely agree dude and I talk about that all the time

[cosmic sequoia]

Makes no sense

[spark rapids]

Transport helis made me like this

[arctic grove]

They must’ve screwed with them. 5-6 used to kill them easily

[eager spire]

I'd be fine with that concept if launchers were actually effective against them

[ruby saffron]

Huh usually i only take a few missiles to take down when im in a hind

[eager spire]

because as it is they're not and Irish APS exists

[cosmic sequoia]

Well he got repaired right after that

[dapper night]

Just buff the launchers or make the Tank’s APS disable the C5

[cosmic sequoia]

They were in the super hind basically the entire game

[dapper night]

I haven’t finished writing my feedback

[lime turret]

how do you manage to hit stuff with the apache?
for me the crosshair is way off to hit anything

[spark rapids]

Just gave me another thing to protest, make irish destroy tank shots

[cosmic sequoia]

Each tube on the missiles fires differently, you have to know which one is going to fire off next

Even then it’s extremely difficult

[ruby saffron]

Id love to see an ADS that could target tank shells

[lime turret]

ah, thanks

[dapper night]

You can read my feedback on that in #1077689769246593044

[ruby saffron]

That would be maximum trollage

[eager spire]

sure

[arctic grove]

Oh yeah heli crosshairs need to change

[ruby saffron]

Heli crosshairs are so annoying

[arctic grove]

They’re static and won’t work with you if you’re aiming during movement

I got used to it but it could use the change

[ruby saffron]

Its supposed to be 2042 youd think aircraft HUD’s would be able to track targets better lol

[cosmic sequoia]

Why does the Apache still not have a 30mm auto cannon front gun

[spark rapids]

NO, DELETE HELIS, DONT UPDATE THEM

[dapper night]

2042 felt more of a Infantryfield than Battlefield tbh especially in 128 player due to low amount of vehicles but that doesn’t mean not nerfing or reworking some vehicles

[spiral folio]

For all real purposes the f35 isnt even advanced as the harrier

[cosmic sequoia]

Play rush? Play cod? Play BT?

[ruby saffron]

Helis are a crucial part of the combined arms experience tho

[cosmic sequoia]

Amen

[radiant prism]

Wut

[ruby saffron]

Battlefield wouldnt feel like battlefield without helis or jets overhead and heavy armor on the ground

[spiral folio]

Yea i dont even really agree with removing attack helis from BT

[spark rapids]

Bt has helis

[dapper night]

Like seriously this game doesn’t have a dedicated Mobile AA category on the vehicle section
https://battlefield.fandom.com/wiki/Mobile_Anti-Air

[cosmic sequoia]

Yeah but only on certain phases

[spiral folio]

Stealth, speed, multi targeting

[eager spire]

i mean i feel like BF's gunplay when it works is distinct enough from something like CoD to be enjoyable.

[radiant prism]

The wildcat exists though specifically for that reason

[dapper night]

They should get rid of the Light Armor category and make a IFV category and a Mobile AA category

[spark rapids]

Still, bf1 didnt have them and it was great, so why not bf2042?

[cosmic sequoia]

No one uses the wildcat because the RAM is way more fun

[radiant prism]

??

[ruby saffron]

Its at the point tho im not gonna play the next bf probs, ill more than likely stick with the bot modes as long as the servers are online, i dont trust EA anymore

[cosmic sequoia]

And the tor tank does a better job at dealing with aircraft

[spark rapids]

Just say in the future helis got discontinued and thats it

[calm bison]

Speak for yourself

[dapper night]

They share the same spot with the Ram

[spiral folio]

Anyway. Aircraft in 2042 are basically vietnam era targeting capability

[cosmic sequoia]

Speaking from experience lol

[spiral folio]

Most of it is eyeballing and holding the trigger

[dapper night]

Light Armor category doesn’t make sense it should have been IFV and Mobile AA

[calm bison]

IDK. I’m on series s and I still see people use the Wildcat

Gets really frustrating during dogfights

[ruby saffron]

Crazy to think 2042 is set 19 years from now

[cosmic sequoia]

Yeah it’s used, but people consistently take the RAM as well

[dapper night]

BF3 and 4 have already this category existed

Why they can’t just copy the whole vehicle category from BF3/4

[calm bison]

So you just retconned what you just said? Interesting….

[spark rapids]

I think its just that the RAM is a lot more mobile and you have more action on it

Wildcats usually sit in the back of the map

[calm bison]

The RAM controls like shit

[cosmic sequoia]

It’s so much more fun with a crew of people

[calm bison]

DICE literally could’ve just copied and pasted the handling from BFV’s armored cars and it would’ve been just as if not better

[cosmic sequoia]

What? No. The wildcat is used but just not as much as it was because of the RAM.

[calm bison]

But you said no one uses the Wildcat

[cosmic sequoia]

Obviously it was an exaggeration you goof

They could’ve copied all of battlefield 5 and reskinned it and we would have a better game

Imagine instead of a tiger it’s an abrams rolling through the buildings

[calm bison]

I mean yeah but tank controls in 2042 are eh

[eager spire]

I mean Spread To Recoil Conversion is a bad mechanic

[calm bison]

Not terrible

But the armored cars in 2042

[cosmic sequoia]

They’re the worst

[calm bison]

This is bad

[cosmic sequoia]

They’re both dog shit

Compared to 5

Utter dog shit

[eager spire]

and honestly if they wanted to do the whole "bullets come from the center of your sights" thing, they'd have to increase recoil a LOT for it to be reasonable in 2042, and i don't think anyone would like that.

[fervent rose]

bfv had better balanced guns than 2042 does

[dapper night]

I’m okay with tbf coming from CSGO amd Rust

[fervent rose]

2042 is such a lame gunplay design

[calm bison]

Let’s see here…

[fervent rose]

its so boring

[calm bison]

Type 2A

ZH-29

[spiral folio]

Well the Ram is the logical evolution to an armored car. Its a little too tough for what it is though in the game

[dapper night]

Especially the old Rust recoil, shame that it got nerf

[next onyx]

@glacial quarry Thanks for the games mang, :]

[eager spire]

high recoil doesn't work with faster paced games, though

[calm bison]

M2 Carbine

[spiral folio]

The diamond windows especially

[spark rapids]

Bfv guns are peashooters

[magic bloom]

LCMG master tanker

[calm bison]

You take that back

[glacial quarry]

np can play again next time tho earlier and BT only

[spiral folio]

Most bf5 guns hae the same rounds as bf2042 guns. Just saiyan

[glacial quarry]

i hate playing against AI lol

[dapper night]

I know but I’m just saying I’m okay with having recoil

[fervent rose]

i should say, original bfv before they fucked up the game. its never felt right after 5.2

[calm bison]

6.2 made it better

[spark rapids]

They always were

[eager spire]

I mean yeah it'd be fine but i don't think recoil alone would fix this game's gunplay

[calm bison]

No not really

[fervent rose]

5.2 the patch where 5 guns were the best by a mile

[eager spire]

It really does need to be more like BF4 but with slower spread buildup.

[fervent rose]

where fg42 took 13btk out of 20 mag

what a meme patch

[calm bison]

Yeah it was rough

But again

6.2 came and kinda fixed it

[fervent rose]

they never fully fixed the game

a half assed revert maybe sure

[calm bison]

I wouldn’t call using 5.0 TTK as a baseline and going from there by adding 1-2 extra BTK at range is half-assed

[fervent rose]

they made bfv into a worse game for no reason at all

[spark rapids]

I mean i only played back at launch and last year bc it was free, and the guns felt the same

[calm bison]

In close range those weapons are still at their 5.0 values

[fervent rose]

remember how you said zh was imbalanced before

[calm bison]

I mean it is

[fervent rose]

they made the rest of the pool worse vs zh with those changes

so explain how thats a fix

they made the balance worse

[calm bison]

It’s a fix because the rest of the guns don’t suck? This is like trying to compare the SVK in 2042 to the M5A3

The ZH was always a 2 hit kill in BFV

Even in 5.0

Yeah I will admit it was stupid of DICE to not change that with 6.2

[fervent rose]

yes but the other guns had a lower max range btk

[calm bison]

I mean ok but who actually uses those weapons.

Outside of maybe the infrared

[fervent rose]

what

[calm bison]

Who actually uses the self loading rifles in BFV’s recon class

[spiral folio]

M1 garand

[fervent rose]

that's not what i meant

[calm bison]

That’s in assault

[spiral folio]

I sniped with it a lot cause no glint

You could pop off 2 shots before a lot of snipers noticed

[spark rapids]

AT boys sniper rifle

[spiral folio]

Sniper

[calm bison]

Maybe so but the point I’m making is that those changes don’t really matter because no one actually uses those weapons

[calm bison]

Bolt action

[fervent rose]

zh was used plenty

[spiral folio]

The AT rifles were short range ambush guns for memez

Worthless

[spark rapids]

That, i loved that gun lol, it was funny to use

[calm bison]

Yeah and so was the Type 2A. People will use whatever is known to be powerful

[fervent rose]

zh is far more obnoxious to fight in 5.2.2+ than in 5.0

[spiral folio]

The drop on the AT rifles in bf5 was knuckledragging stupid

Especially the panzerbusche

[calm bison]

It’s the same reason why the ZK-383 is one of the most popular medic SMGs

Whatever the strongest strategy is, people will try to use it

When you give people a gun designed to kill tanks, of course they’re gonna use it against infantry

[eager spire]

yeah that's generally how it is

[spiral folio]

Pretty sure the panzerbusche had the highest velocity of any projectile in ww2.

But in bf5 it was like the second slowest

[fervent rose]

people do in fact use the best stuff

this is not a revelation

[calm bison]

I know

I’m using that because even before 5.2, the ZH was popular

[spark rapids]

Yeah, but its just balancing, you wouldnt want a one shot kill AT rifle killing you at the speed of light

Or as fast as other snipers

[fervent rose]

of course, 5.0 zh is a top 3 weapon

i would have liked to see it nerfed a touch

[spiral folio]

They just shouldn't add something if they're gonna make it that stupid

[fervent rose]

instead it got indirectly buffed

[calm bison]

Yeah that’s fair

[spiral folio]

Oh man on top of that bf5 couldnt get bipods right

So not only was the drop ass on them. But the bipods would undo nonstop

[calm bison]

Also aren’t bipods are supposed to negate recoil in some capacity

[spiral folio]

You couldnt even use them without the bipods

Like not at all

They were even worse than the ntw

[inner ether]

People who complain about how they think Battlefield is realistic need to get a good smacking.

[eager spire]

tell me you've never played BF4 without saying you've never played BF4.

[inner ether]

I've played the franchise since 1942, dum dum.

[calm bison]

I love tank golfing

[spiral folio]

Id say bf on a scale from 1 to 10 of realism is like somewhere in the middle. Maybe a 7

[eager spire]

i know i'm just saying, people who say battlefield is realistic clearly haven't played BF4.

[inner ether]

I've launched jeeps to the moon, climbed UAVs and sat on helicopters. I also beached the carrier to try and hit people with it.

[calm bison]

Dude I’m really beginning to fucking hate this munancho inc guy

[spiral folio]

The bullet drop is consistent across all guns but damage is a little dumbed down

[inner ether]

Ah, I thought it was a jab. My bad!

[spiral folio]

Gravity works

[eager spire]

well it was, just not at you. :V

[inner ether]

[spiral folio]

Its not battlefield heroes or splatoon

But its not a milsim

[inner ether]

It's an arcade sandbox

[arctic grove]

The reason why people say that is because Battlefield has always had considerably grounded movement (at least as far as what devs intended you to use) and more relatable game themes imo

[spiral folio]

Its a battlefield game. Its definitely not sandbox

[arctic grove]

Battlefield definitely isn’t realistic but it’s theme consistency is up there

[inner ether]

It's like Bad Company 1 and 2 never existed

[spiral folio]

Ive played battlefield sandbox servers back in bf2

[calm bison]

Sandbox implies the amount of elements you have at your disposal

Obviously

[next onyx]

Yus.

[calm bison]

Insert clueless emoji

[calm bison]

God it looks so fucking stupid

[arctic grove]

Hey dreyfuss look

shows you the AEK “stock”

[calm bison]

That thing looks pathetic

[inner ether]

You get lots of vehicles and gear to mess around with at your leisure. Our most well-known "Battlefield moment" is Rendezook jumping out of a jet to rocket the jet behind him and then get back into the jet.

[spiral folio]

Sandbox generally means non directional free building ie like summon anything anytime anywhere.

Bf lets you limited call in stuff unlike older bf games that had all vehicles sitting on the map at all time

[calm bison]

Well in the FPS genre BF is generally considered a sandbox given the elements at your disposal

[spiral folio]

Call-ins are a good change to like old bf games where enemies could parachute in and steal the only tank you have

If you tried you could steal jets

[inner ether]

Wordnik tells me "the player deriving amusement from a range of open-ended interactions or situations."

I think putting C4 under my jeep to blast it onto a building qualifies.

C4 on the MAV in BF4 beta was the best...

When I revive a guy that's been shot in the head by a 50mm gun with shock paddles, realism isn't what comes to mind.

[arctic grove]

fuck c4/c5 drones

[inner ether]

In BF4 it was different, because we'd use C4 MAV against campers

[quaint vector]

What the....

[eager spire]

C4 drones were patched out in the BF3 beta

[inner ether]

It was patched quickly

[limpid pond]

Morning chaps

[robust vapor]

Me

[arctic grove]

You’re wrong

[magic bloom]

No you

[tidal trail]

I remember that you could use the MAV as an elevator and climb onto it then fly to rooftops

[limpid pond]

No you. Extra good morning now

Well morning for me at least

It's 11 am here

[magic bloom]

No you

[limpid pond]

And I'm currently at work

No you

[spiral folio]

I think headshots should be a non-revive kinda thing.

Oh and then chat scrolls

Though ill gladly get the 2nd sometime 3rd kills when some wiseguy goes to revive people shot in the open

[cyan sundial]

Wait

Sniper rifles don't have drag in BF2042?

[arctic grove]

Not that much no

[cyan sundial]

Also, I heard snipers got nerfed in the latest patch. Turns out, all they changed was that bullets now disperse while moving. I thought that's how it worked already so that changes nothing more me lol

[arctic grove]

Very good velocity on em

[cyan sundial]

They are fast

[arctic grove]

Oh yeah that too. You can’t really adad with em anymore

[cyan sundial]

But they're fast in the last two BFs as well, but still have drag

[spiral folio]

Dont have drag?

[cyan sundial]

Personally, as someone who only snipes in Battlefield games, and has hundreds of hours across multiple games in the franchise, I think bullet velocity on snipers is a bit too high in 2042, at least on the DXR. 1,150 m/s is ridiculously high. I don't think bullet velocity should ever get above around 930 m/s

[robust vapor]

I thank the DXR for giving me all the headshots at range if needed

[spiral folio]

Bullet velocity is realistic in 2042. In previous bf games they had "enhanced drop" because distances were compressed

[cyan sundial]

drag coefficient. Basically, just how quickly friction slows down the bullet. In other BFs, bullets would slow down the further they traveled, meaning you had to account more for drop at longer distances, giving you an exponential instead of linear adjustment pattern

[cyan sundial]

It is not

[spiral folio]

So if you fire a 500m shot with the railgun. The drop will be mathematically predictable

[cyan sundial]

Even the best sniper bullets irl only have muzzle velocities around 880 - 930 m/s

The drop is accurate in 2042 being gravity which I like

[spiral folio]

In older bf games a 200m shot is more like a 100m in distance with thr drop of 400m

There's equations for calculating drop and they work for 2042

[cyan sundial]

Oh my God, that's actually something I didn't know. That makes so much fucking sense. I thought I was going crazy thinking that distances felt different across the games

[spiral folio]

Bullets dont lose velocity though

Yea bf2042 has 1 to 1 distances. Thats why the velocities appear faster is because they were slowed artificially before

Which is why it's hard to go back and forth between bf5 and 2042

[cyan sundial]

That's so weird

BFV sniping is still the holy grail though

[spiral folio]

Incorrect

[cyan sundial]

Best sniping experience in any FPS period

imo

[glacial quarry]

for max realism they need to take into account decrease in bullet velocity as bullet travel. a 1000m/s bullet wont stay that way for long. of course its hard to implement decreasing velocity so just make it constant but slightly lower

[spiral folio]

Bf1 had better damage and velocities than 5 and 5 had too much "balancing"

[robust vapor]

the martini henry would like to speak to you 300m away

[spiral folio]

And by balancing i mean sniper nerfs

[cyan sundial]

Responsiveness, fast aiming, long hold breath, no suppression, no sweet spot.

[spiral folio]

Cant be suppressed if they cant hit near you

[cyan sundial]

Nah, in BF1

[glacial quarry]

also suppressors dont even reduce velocity irl do they?

[spiral folio]

Just shoot them first

They do

[glacial quarry]

shouldnt they increase velocity if anything, longer barrel?

not sure how they work

[cyan sundial]

Suppressors don't have rifling

They are muzzle devices

[glacial quarry]

yeah but the rifling in the barrel is still there no?

[cyan sundial]

But that's not the suppression I'm talking about. I'm talking about the game mechanic

[glacial quarry]

so it doesnt take away velocity?

[cyan sundial]

That was rightfully removed from the game in BFV

[spiral folio]

A suppressor traps gas and changes air flow exiting the rifle ahead of the bullet causint more resistance and blowback. Part of an issue with suppressors is the back pressure is increased enough that it will push exhaust gasses back through the receiver

So youll get puffs of gunsmoke in the face

[robust vapor]

poot

[spiral folio]

Some guns are better about it by delaying blowback

Like the xm5 is built to be suppressed

[pastel loom]

its suppressor is supposed to fix the gas issue

[spiral folio]

Delays to the blowback help allow the exhaust go out the barrel and reduces how much cleaning itll need too

And can help with accuracy depending how its done

[fervent rose]

it doesnt change much except long range shots i think

[cyan sundial]

Won't affect anything if you stand still while shooting

[fervent rose]

you still have full strafing accuracy out to normal engagement ranges

[cyan sundial]

Which is how every other BF worked, so I'm chilling

Oh okay, I see what youre saying

Nevermind

[fervent rose]

it might make sniper duels better

[spiral folio]

Or just tedious

[fervent rose]

but in a fight vs normal guns you can still strafe and spam adad

[cyan sundial]

Sniper duels were already tedious in 2042 because of the slow ADS speeds

[spiral folio]

I dont care if they add wind if it's predictable and something to compensate for but not like "sometime shots just go where they want"

[cyan sundial]

I think the hardest thing about going from BF1 or V to 2042 for me is just how sluggish 2042 feels sometimes

[cyan sundial]

Wind would be interesting, but I don't think it's a good thing from a gameplay perspective.

[fervent rose]

the 2042 input/movement is annoying

[spiral folio]

Well the space age polymer rifles are lighter so that makes them harder to lift than a hickory stock iron rifle from ww2

[cyan sundial]

The funny thing is

[fervent rose]

like you have to stop every movement manually if you want it to feel as clean as bfv

like counter strafing but even for w key

[cyan sundial]

The snipers in 2042 were all meant to be deployed. The idea that we are shooting a Sako TRG M10 or a DSR standing up is comical

So the 1 and V snipers being faster actually makes sense from that perspective

But it's a video game so who cares

[spiral folio]

Nooo...t really

You can hipfire a modern 50cal cause materials, buffering, etc

Its just arbitrary "balance"

And by balance as always "just sniper nerfs"

[cyan sundial]

You CAN

[fervent rose]

it's barely noticeable

[spiral folio]

If you want good sniping. Get in on bf games while theyre young and havent had time to nerf everything

[cyan sundial]

Doesn't mean you should or that it's effective

[spiral folio]

If they want shots to deviate at range they should just add a wind direction but that'd be hard.

Easier to wear a hat

-adds random deviation-

[static prairie]

I dont understand bullet drops already at 200m

[spiral folio]

The second any shot fires its subject to gravity

[cyan sundial]

There used to be this really nifty site where all of the holds at various distance were displayed on helpful graphics

But it got taken down

[spiral folio]

But theres no magical sideways gravity so for something to influence trajectory a force is required

[cyan sundial]

I personally think it's somewhat necessary because we don't know the inherent zero of the snipers in 2042, which means you are doing all of your adjustment work based off of velocity

[spiral folio]

My beef is if theyre gonna add deviation it should be something you can compensate for. Not just be "shot deviates"

[cyan sundial]

Man

If this frustrates you

You should play BF4

[spiral folio]

Some reason for it

[cyan sundial]

Sniping in that game is like getting your balls stomped

[spiral folio]

I literwlly skipped the modern wad of bf games because of shit like this

[static prairie]

Bf4 had fun af sniping

[spiral folio]

Id gone to world of tanks instead

Which has even more deviation

But no motion detectors, guided munitions, broken ass aircraft

WoTs deviation was based on movement and how shitty your gun drive/optics were

[next onyx]

@magic bloom

I wonder who's that on my tank.

[spiral folio]

By the time i tried bf3 it was one of those free give aways so the starting sniper rifle was worthless and the high level rifles were vastly superior

[magic bloom]

I was the spotter

[spiral folio]

Antitank laser plz

[magic bloom]

Yes

[gaunt umbra]

More players should use the soflam in my humble opinion

[magic bloom]

I do it and i Love it

[gaunt umbra]

I also use it often

[fiery shoal]

i feel like you are just hoping other people compliment the gadget.. and good luck with that

[spiral folio]

Why would anyone use a soflam

Youd have to use a recon

And recons suck

[gaunt umbra]

I like being the anti vehicle player so soflam is quite helpful in that situation

[spiral folio]

Im sure it is.
But its not helpful to the recon

[arctic grove]

“someone grab an M5 im about to soflam”

[spiral folio]

Do they get assist kill for it?

[arctic grove]

teamwork and communication, lads

[gaunt umbra]

Yes you do get assists

[arctic grove]

[spiral folio]

Lol teamwork

Ill do that
For money (points)

-money gesture-

[spiral folio]

Correction
They get points IF the hit kills it

[gaunt umbra]

Whats your main znath

[spiral folio]

So its even less

My main problem? Hard to pick

[gaunt umbra]

No silly your main class/ specialist

[spiral folio]

I literally only use lis now because ammo boxes dont exist so the only way to hunt transports is with lis.

Railgun lis

[gaunt umbra]

Nice i like to use lis too

[arctic grove]

mackay

Mackay is life because he’s the only specialist with a tolerable ads speed

[gaunt umbra]

Casper for my recon main

[spiral folio]

Lis is a better counter sniper so I use lis for everything

[gaunt umbra]

I like zain for my assault

[spiral folio]

Mostly vehicle killing

But some counter sniping between transports

[arctic grove]

Zain is actually really useful too. Like, between him and Mackay I prefer Mackay but Zain is consistent

[gaunt umbra]

Znath you be pilot head hunting

[spiral folio]

Yea cockpit shots when possible

Nothing more entertaining

[gaunt umbra]

I have tried a couple times haven't got one yet but my day will come

[spiral folio]

My favorite one was the pilot out of one and it just hovers into the water on manifest

[gaunt umbra]

Lol thats awesome

[spiral folio]

The rail is good for it because it throws rng at the issue

Like you don't necessarily aim precisely at the pilot you just kinda direct em at the cockpit and hope

Sub200m sure aim left seat condor or backseat hind

[gaunt umbra]

Ok good to know ill have to try that later today

[spiral folio]

The 4x is good enough usually. Or the 6x thermal for finding spawners and devices

If i cant aim at the pilot i go for the passenger doors

[gaunt umbra]

I be using that Casper drone disabling all the equipment

[wooden briar]

Rm68 be so good

Not in my hands tho

In my hands its shit

But enemies hit like fuck

[wooden berry]

thats the M5A3 for me.

[magic bloom]

Me way and redeploy we’re absolutely stomping (I did nothing but spot and destroy vehicles)

[royal swan]

Can't wait for the event

[magic bloom]

When does it come out?

[wide shore]

I feel the same way

[royal swan]

Soon

[magic bloom]

Yeah the RM68 is good

But I can’t seem to grasp it

[glacial quarry]

lol yall are still playing wtf

there even anyone on now

[eager ice]

dw theres still a match running

[magic bloom]

I think way and redeploy are but my wifi died so I’m gonna take a break

Might go for T1 Crawford

[glacial quarry]

T1 crawford just drive tank

[magic bloom]

Yeah but you have to get kills with his Vulcan

[arctic grove]

Rush 800% is the fastest Methode

[spiral folio]

Ohh the sniper dispersion is just if you move yea whatever then

I thought the way people described it they were just screwing people

[spiral folio]

But strafe-sniping is old
Its been around forever

And as we all know

Old things cant be changed because theyre good

[next onyx]

Fun gamesw.

[arctic grove]

Squad is dripped out too

[next onyx]

Aye.