battlefield-2042

[arctic grove]

and EA might loosen the reigns over development since their greed is to blame for it's failure

[edgy oriole]

so ill keep playing it until it terns to literal ass cheeks

[arctic grove]

most of the reasons games fail is not always because of the devs

but because of their parent company

[wise zodiac]

Play hll with me and my crew

[arctic grove]

Yeah EA shifted what they wanted the game to be like 5 times

and the devs also spent over half the dev cycle updating the engine since all the OG's left

[edgy oriole]

ive been thinking about installing it again. havent played it in ages

[arctic grove]

and it was in the middle of covid

[wise zodiac]

In the box. You'll have fun

[arctic grove]

true

[edgy oriole]

[arctic grove]

should i buy bf4?

[feral herald]

Anyone down to play bf2042

[arctic grove]

It's fine imo, doesn't substitute for BF, but still fun

[arctic grove]

yes

[copper ice]

get ea play and test all the bfs out

[arctic grove]

im gonna play bf2042 tmr

BF4 is good and has players

[arctic grove]

i am not gonna download every bf

[edgy oriole]

you console tho so we cant play

[radiant prism]

You know what I genuinely hate?

[edgy oriole]

[arctic grove]

would be like 500 gb lmao

[radiant prism]

How people say "DICE needs to listen" like every update in the last 9 months hasn't been directly to listen to player feedback

For better or for worse

[wise zodiac]

You should get it on the box

[radiant prism]

mistyped

[edgy oriole]

i still have first gen xbox one that i havent turned on since 2019

[arctic grove]

they did listen but it’s also a part of ea’s fault

they force dice to use their ideas

[arctic grove]

True, and it shows in the game. I just hope that listening carries into the decision making for the next title, which it seems like it will considering what the lead devs have been saying on Twitter.

[radiant prism]

Yeah, but people need to keep their expectations in check

I predicted the community was gonna shit on the game from day one

Way back in the day

[arctic grove]

I'm just expecting a real Battlefield game this time

[radiant prism]

Sometimes I wonder what that means

considering every person in this community probaby has a different idea of what that means lol

[arctic grove]

Classes, destruction, gritty atmosphere, etc.

[copper ice]

its not hard to predict people will compare shit to shit

[arctic grove]

Specialists is probably the most appalling change made to the franchise

[radiant prism]

Yeah but back when everyone was like "RIP COD HAHA THIS IS GONNA BE THE PERFECT GAME"

shocker

Tbh I think I preferred parts of this game back before classes

[arctic grove]

cod’s mwii is still a not the best game anymore

[arctic grove]

It had a big chance to be the perfect BF until EA execs changed their minds 50 times on what it should be

128 still has potential to work in the future. Specialists are just too far and probably wouldn’t have worked unless Hazard Zone was F2P

[arctic grove]

real

[radiant prism]

Tbh

I think specialists could have worked

[arctic grove]

they overestimated how big the maps needed to be tbh, they have no real flow anymore and those huge pushes with your team that make it feel like BF rarely happen anymore

[radiant prism]

Stagnation is something DICE 100% needed to avoid

[arctic grove]

If we got a modern themed battlefield without Specialists that has DECENT post launch support and ordinary grunts that’s my vision of BF4 but better

Decent at the very worst

all they need to do is remake 4 or 3 but improve on it's finer details

imho

[radiant prism]

a remake would be boring change my mind

If you wanna play 4 or 3 go play them, but mechanically they're wayyy outdated

[arctic grove]

idc enough to change your mind, it's obvious you won't

[radiant prism]

Id much rather get something new

[arctic grove]

Yep, notice how much excess the reworks cuts out of the playable area

[arctic grove]

true but even now I feel like sometimes they are too big

[brittle pivot]

Why am I not able to launch the game through the EA App? I have no problems launching other games like Apex

[arctic grove]

I miss when you'd have like 20+ people attacking one obj on both teams

[bleak lagoon]

this game that broken that i cant load it

[low timber]

I think on my previous round I made one enemy quite mad, they kept trying to get me with their RM68 but they never got me, but I killed them maybe 7 times.

[radiant prism]

Idk, even on maps like hourglass I still get that

Like I remember getting huuuuge pushes all the way from the stadium through the village

[arctic grove]

we must be playing a different game then

[radiant prism]

I mean obviously it depends on personal experience

I won't pretend that its a universal thing

[brittle pivot]

I have no error messages. I simply just can't launch it. I press launch and it shows the anti cheat thing and then just disappears and I am back to the EA App

[arctic grove]

for me Hourglass usually gets like 7 people at most pushing obj's unless it's like the middle point

[radiant prism]

Honestly if you want big pushes

Breakthrough is your best friend

[arctic grove]

sure but in all the other games conquest is my friend

[radiant prism]

BFV was like built around breakthrough lol

Not to mention it pretty much being BF1's flagship mode

[arctic grove]

I never even played BFV's Breakthrough once

ngl

or 1's

[radiant prism]

Damn you missed out

[limpid pond]

Pretty bummed the new bundle doesn't have an apc9 skin

[arctic grove]

BF1's mode for me was grand operations

[radiant prism]

Iwo Jima was awful on CQ but damn near incredible on BT

[radiant prism]

Yeah operations is near identical to Breakthrough

It was just renamed from operations to breakthrough in V

[arctic grove]

V's was much lamer

also the maps were weird in V ngl

[radiant prism]

Well yeah because they were built around BT

CQ was definitely flawed

[arctic grove]

which is weird since CQ is the main BF mode

[edgy oriole]

cq is poopoo

[radiant prism]

Not anymore IMO

[wide shore]

Arras, Devastation & Rotterdam were my shit and I am a conquest goon

[arctic grove]

yeah because V and 2042 sorta ruined it

[radiant prism]

BT brings the chaos of 64 players in the density of a couple objectives

[arctic grove]

I dislike how BT has hardly any freedom

Oh man

[radiant prism]

Fair

[arctic grove]

feels very linear and CoD-ish

BF1 operations makes me shed a tear

[arctic grove]

also allows for way less only in Battlefield moments and chaos

[radiant prism]

BF1 was made for Operations

Settingwise

[wide shore]

Also Mercury was a solid conquest map. So was Pacific Storm & the jungle map I can’t remember the name of.

[radiant prism]

V only built on it

[radiant prism]

Solomon Islands, but even that map was mostly built for BT

[arctic grove]

Didn't V like completely remove the lore part and then also make the matches shorter?

[wide shore]

Conquest assault ruins everything so Wake Island never reached it’s true potential

[fervent rose]

theres a handful of diff things about ops vs breakthrough

its mostly the same though

[arctic grove]

I kinda wish 2042 and V retained the lore part

[wide shore]

3 wave system across 2-3 maps made operations better.

[fervent rose]

like no battalions mechanic since bf1

[radiant prism]

2042 sort of brought it back

Honestly battallions made matches go on wayyyyy tooo long

[copper ice]

3 waves just got frustrating

[fervent rose]

yea i dont think it was a good idea

[radiant prism]

you'd be playing the same map for an hour

[wide shore]

That and Operations fit the WWI theme more than like anything else.

[radiant prism]

V cut it down

[fervent rose]

the waves arent necessary

[radiant prism]

yeah

[wide shore]

That’s the best part of you ask me

[radiant prism]

I guess

I just get bored of it considering I like switching up maps

[arctic grove]

Yeah but the 2042 briefings are just in every mode now and they don't really give you a bigger context of the battle you're fighting, which sucks since the game already has no campaign and it's very hard to get a bearing on what exactly is at stake

[bleak lagoon]

welp, refunded this crap game

[copper ice]

getting stuck with a bunch of shitters on a bad map for an hour sucked

[wide shore]

A long epic battle. The maps get decimated. It starts to feel like a struggle. It makes everything feel more grand.

[fervent rose]

you dont need 2 total resets for that to work

3 waves was silly

[radiant prism]

I mean...it kinda tells you exactly whats going on every time lol

[wide shore]

Breakthrough doesn’t have the same magic.

[radiant prism]

Like thats kinda the sole reason they exist

yeah it doesnt I'll admit

But thats because BF1 lived and died by its atmosphere

[arctic grove]

GGs

[wide shore]

Maybe it’s a map design thing idk

[fervent rose]

definitely @wide shore

[radiant prism]

where as V and 2042 focus more on gameplay

[wide shore]

Operations on St Quentin is an unmatched experience.

[fervent rose]

most breakthrough maps in bfv werent very good

its a conquest map design game

[bleak lagoon]

Cant even be a GG if I cant load it lol

[fervent rose]

only the dice LA and pacific stuff was built around breakthrough

[radiant prism]

homie really tried for 20 seconds and refunded it

[arctic grove]

It says "Hey, we are at this facility, stop the Russians" it doesn't give anywhere near as much context or lore as the BF1 ones, which again hurts the overall presentation and lore of the game even further than it already is. It doesn't feel nearly as grand or intoxicating to fight in the game when you hardly even know what's really truly at stake and what the outcome of the battle could be.

[bleak lagoon]

2 days actually

[arctic grove]

I played Aerodrome on Breakthrough

The tank snipers say enough about the future of me playing that map in that mode

[radiant prism]

Did you contact EA support?

[wide shore]

BT was fun on the pacific stuff tho I will agree. The beach landings on Pacific Storm/Solomon & Iwo were insane.

[radiant prism]

helps most other people

[bleak lagoon]

no

[radiant prism]

Well thats because Aerodrome was just an awful map no matter what mode

[fervent rose]

map was terrible in both main modes

[radiant prism]

should've tried that

[fervent rose]

only LTMs made aero playable

[compact zealot]

What are battalion mechanics?

[wide shore]

The fight at the top of Mount Suribachi were legendary.

[fervent rose]

you get multiple sets of tickets in bf1 ops

[arctic grove]

I honestly was about to say that but I couldn’t tell if it was just me and the fact that I’m still for the most part learning the maps n stuff

[radiant prism]

On breakthrough, attackers would have 3 attempts to attack in BF1

[bleak lagoon]

it's whatever, still own it on my PS5

[fervent rose]

you lose your tickets, map resets, go again

or the destruction stays but you start at spawn

[radiant prism]

Sector resets

[arctic grove]

Console is probably the best way to play the game if you will since the performance is better

[tacit sorrel]

Yikes almost got more melee kills than my squad could get primary kills gotta love ps plus noobs

[radiant prism]

Ooooh I forgot thats going on

I need to update the game and get farming >:)

[arctic grove]

Farm their souls

[arctic grove]

If only the BF devs still cared about PC

[radiant prism]

Its time to introduce these newbies to Dozer

[compact zealot]

maybe I am too new to Battlefield, but I dont understand any of that. sorry man. BF 2042 was the first BF i really got into. I bought a few others over the years but never got into it

Still trying to learn about the series

[tacit sorrel]

The problem is you’re basically playing solo because the noobs are worse than ez bots

[arctic grove]

We’re both ganked by….

…..last gen consoles

[radiant prism]

Fair enough. BF1 was a weird game...but its in the past and largely irrelevant to 2042

[compact zealot]

really? why is that

[arctic grove]

LOL WHAT?

[radiant prism]

If you've played 2042 BT, basically you'd get 3 attempts as attackers instead of just 1

[wide shore]

In operations. The attacking team has a set number of spawns. Say, 300. If they die 300 times the round ends.

In BF1 operations attackers had 3 attempts. So 3 waves of 300 tickets.

[tacit sorrel]

Better optimization

[radiant prism]

Yeah BF1 is wack mechanically, I'll stand by that

[arctic grove]

The performance on PC has been mixed since the game came out, for some it’s fine and for some they get stuttering or max cpu usage

[tacit sorrel]

Bf1>V

[radiant prism]

ew

[arctic grove]

Whatever, that's your opinion, but the "old" and "largely irrelevant" parts are just hilariously weird to me

[arctic grove]

obviously

[compact zealot]

so basically unless you have a higher end PC setup, good chance you will encounter issues?

[arctic grove]

BF1s competitive gameplay and exploits takes a backseat to a more atmospheric experience which I think is fine. It’s just not the game for a more competitive audience

[tacit sorrel]

Some think the opposite shockingly

[wide shore]

Every day twice on sundays.

[radiant prism]

I can understand why you think that, but seriously BF1 ops and BF2042 breakthrough are pretty different

[tacit sorrel]

Calling V’s class balance better

[compact zealot]

When you say BF1, are you talking about the very first BF or the one that released like a few years ago

[arctic grove]

the only relevant bf is the one you play the most.

BF1 still has some of the best post launch support content though IMO, the maps were fuckin amazing

Heligoland Bight destroyer battles were a level of technical capability plus funding I fear we won’t get back for a long time, BF1 was a mix of a passion project and a golden opportunity for DICE

Love that damn game man

[radiant prism]

BF1's best class was objectively assault, and the best guns on every class were those that were closest to the assault guns

[compact zealot]

you got a video of that at all

[radiant prism]

Also BF1's DLC maps were good for the most part...but they died QUICK.

[tacit sorrel]

Sucks it’s paywall content

[radiant prism]

Good luck finding a DLC match nowadays

[tacit sorrel]

Sometimes they do a free dlc playlist

[arctic grove]

Never said they weren't, I'm just saying the design philosophy of 1 isn't really irrelevant or old considering a large majority of the community considers it to be the last "good" Battlefield game. Like it or not, that game was a defining moment of the franchise and a big part of it's identity.

[acoustic seal]

this guy doesn't 1907 factory + bandages

[radiant prism]

This is why, despite all its inherent flaws, I'll still take live service over premium

[arctic grove]

for me it's bf4 and trying to convince me to give 2042 a chance

[arctic grove]

It’s very CPU dependent yes, I believe an i7 is the recommended cpu to use just to begin with on that front

[tacit sorrel]

Medic trains existed

[compact zealot]

When you guys say BF1, do you mean the one that came out like 6-7 years ago or whatever it was

[arctic grove]

Premium just needed to be delivered with the game after the games support ended, like as part of buying the game itself. To a degree that happened because the Revolution Edition

[arctic grove]

Yes

[radiant prism]

I don't deny it, BF1 was the game that got me to switch from CoD to BF. Looking back now though, I think its legacy is far worse than people want to say

[arctic grove]

Which I picked up in 2018

[radiant prism]

Yes its fun for those who enjoy it, but mechanically its a shitshow. It put atmosphere over gameplay

[tacit sorrel]

Bf1 still has players unlike hardline

[radiant prism]

Rip Hardline

[arctic grove]

Hardline was the black sheep until V and 2042

[tacit sorrel]

Better off playing bf4 rly

[compact zealot]

Why do most people consider Bad Company to be one of the best Battlefield? Did it have something the others did not?

[radiant prism]

Hardline still is the blacksheep, considering its actually dead unlike V and 2042

Hardline is probably the one modern BF title that is actually dead.

unfortuntely.

[arctic grove]

Major focus on destruction, great story, great gameplay, great atmosphere.

[radiant prism]

Those who like hardline love it

[naive quiver]

I think battlefield 2042 is downgraded from BF5

[radiant prism]

I would agree

V's gunplay was sublime

As was the movement

[arctic grove]

Which feels better to play nowadays bf4 or 2042?

[radiant prism]

Wish they'd stayed for 2042

[arctic grove]

It is, but I do see a reason for it, because of how ambitious it was trying to be with the 128 players and portal and stuff.

[shell ermine]

Best in series, genre even

[tacit sorrel]

Bad company games were good for its time

[arctic grove]

The new version of the frostbite engine fucked up a lot of things

[radiant prism]

Depends. 2042 is more modern mechanically, but BF4 is often pretty cheap so it couldn't hurt getting both

[arctic grove]

Especially considering what it was built to handle

[arctic grove]

Agreed, including destruction

[shell ermine]

I see nothing ambitious about what DICE attempted with 2042

[radiant prism]

Holy fuck man my hands are shaking I can't type wtf is happening lol

[shell ermine]

Portal was a separate studio

[wooden briar]

So i cant get lis and crawford anymore?

[radiant prism]

yeah wtf my hands are actually trembling

[compact zealot]

but did it improve graphic fidelity?

[arctic grove]

They did a lot of new shit really quickly and also tried shoving in 3 half baked remakes

[arctic grove]

Do not ask that

[compact zealot]

was there any benefit to it

[thorn leaf]

should i buy bf2042 or it's still bad, btw i love bf1 and hate bf5

[radiant prism]

Yes you can, there should be challenges available if you hover on them

[arctic grove]

One gripe I’ve got is the animations, apparently they were totally remade for 2042 as opposed to keeping what 1/V had which I’ve actually complained a lot about, they just feel cheap and snappy in comparison, other games are more satisfying in that aspect

[shell ermine]

If you love a BF as shitty as BF1 you'll probably love 2042

[radiant prism]

Give it a shot, try it for yourself

[inner ether]

Boris and Crawford sure are terrible

[arctic grove]

Some would say yes, others say no. I think 2042 does look better than V in most cases, aside from texture resolution which has been slightly downgraded for the sake of 128 players.

[tacit sorrel]

Bf1 🐐

[radiant prism]

I mean I hate BF1 with a passion but I enjoy 2042

[thorn leaf]

give it a shot will cost me money

[arctic grove]

delusional take

[shell ermine]

Do you love it though?

[radiant prism]

I think there's some kind of free weekend on?

[compact zealot]

I think its free if you have PS Plus

free weekend through the 17th I think

[arctic grove]

Love BF1, like 2042 over here

[radiant prism]

Considering i'm still playing 2042 and not V, I think I'd have to say yes

[wooden briar]

Okay thanks

[radiant prism]

There are parts of it I definitely like

[arctic grove]

I definitely like this game more than V lol

[radiant prism]

Valid

[thorn leaf]

right now there is a sale thats why if i wait for the weekend free the sale will go

[tacit sorrel]

V sucked ass

[radiant prism]

The free weekend is on right now

Its not really a weekend I guess

Also if its on sale, snag that shit

[shell ermine]

BF started on a downward slope with BF4, hit what I thought was rock bottom with BF1, spiked back up with the back half of support for BFV, and then dived off of a cliff

[arctic grove]

All you need to change your mind short term about 2042 is to have a game where your team just pubstomps the enemy and you get like 20+ kills. Suddenly you’re saying to yourself it ain’t that bad

[radiant prism]

If you can avoid getting it full price absolutely do it

[arctic grove]

V was just like, idk, it had nothing good or anything to really set it apart, at least this game kinda has potential to go somewhere, V just didn't

[tacit sorrel]

[radiant prism]

V's gunplay and movement were what set it apart

[arctic grove]

Insane take

[tacit sorrel]

You realize hardline exists right

[buoyant trail]

All i had to do was simily get good pol

[shell ermine]

If 2042 had launched in its current state I'd have a hard time picking the worst BF game between it and BF1

[radiant prism]

Aaaa fuck how do I stop my hands from shaking

[tacit sorrel]

1head take

[radiant prism]

This is awful

[arctic grove]

I played all last year for the first time bf 4 and I would continue playing it for another year

[thorn leaf]

i did not see that, i'm downloading it right now and test

[shell ermine]

BF4 was good (after it was fixed) but it was a step down from BF3

[tacit sorrel]

Bf4 is still very popular

[arctic grove]

I really do wanna play BF4 more. I do, but atp I’ll have to pick it up on PC. The locked console FOV is so dated

[arctic grove]

You're saying BF1 was rock bottom?

[radiant prism]

I think its on PS only or something. Idk

BF1 was a low disguised as a high, looking back

[arctic grove]

I can agree with that but idk why you have such a hard-on for 1

[shell ermine]

Before DICE broke through the crust into the underworld that is 2042, yes

[radiant prism]

Its like crack cocaine

Feels good when you're on it but in the long run fucks things up

[thorn leaf]

i'm PC not PS

[arctic grove]

It was rock bottom for comp players but that’s about it

Honestly, BF1 had this small little game mode thing that released in like what, 2017? It would’ve made up for it to a degree

[thorn leaf]

on steam

[arctic grove]

Imagine playing BF competitively lmfao

[radiant prism]

Yeah so the free weekend wouldn't be available then. Definitely take advantage of the sale though, how much is it off

[arctic grove]

BF1 something, had a test range too which never got put in the main game

[tacit sorrel]

Bf1 still has the best atmosphere of any bf game ever made and it’s not even close

[radiant prism]

Best atmosphere...but worst gameplay

[arctic grove]

Steam has a free weekend rn

[radiant prism]

does it??

Idk

[arctic grove]

yes

[thorn leaf]

yeah thats why i'm going to buy it again

[arctic grove]

Sniping in BF1 was so satisfying

[arctic grove]

Hell, the most competition I’ve felt in any battlefield games is that small but noticeable rivalry you get with that one enemy player

[shell ermine]

BF1 launched with a butchered version of Conquest, that alone was enough to make me hate it. Add in hero pickups, sweet spot, intense random deviation, automatic domination, and poor armor play and it just marinated in its own shit

[thorn leaf]

after 20hours steam will have sales

[arctic grove]

I prefer 3's honestly, but I'm a sucker for modern settings

[radiant prism]

Sweet spot moment

[radiant prism]

based

[tacit sorrel]

You could even use iron sights on sniper rifles in bf1

[radiant prism]

I never actually played 3's MP but damn going back and playing the campaign...I can imagine it was great

[arctic grove]

like dude the voice acting in 3 was so realistic, idk if you guys have ever watched real combat footage from the time when 3 was made, but that shit is super authentic

[radiant prism]

I did this in BFV! Loved using the Lee-Enfield and Arisaka with irons

[arctic grove]

Sweet spot sucked in execution. Dunno if a system like that could’ve ever worked.

It just worked accidentally, and there was barely any point doing that over going for headshots anyways

[shell ermine]

My condolences, even the gimped 24p version on PS3 and 360 was fantastic

[tacit sorrel]

It wasn’t as viable tho

[radiant prism]

I admittedly was a CoD IW to BF1 transplant

[next gulch]

Yeah BF3 on console was pretty nice

[radiant prism]

It absolutely was, I dominated with them

[arctic grove]

The only thing that interests me about a bf is that he has active players.

Elite classes aren’t that awful in BF1 though. Like the sentry for instance took away all your peripheral vision and all you had to do was bayonet charge them

[next gulch]

And it actually worked at launch unlike BF3 PC

[tacit sorrel]

Basically gimping yourself in V with irons

[shell ermine]

BF3 brought back server renting to consoles after losing it with Bad Company 1

[radiant prism]

Funnily enough, I actually like IW and don't like BF1 nowadays

[arctic grove]

I wish 2042 had similar voice acting but the specialists kinda limit it

I always liked IW but only for its campaign

[shell ermine]

We had it with Battlefield 2: Modern Combat on the PlayStation 2 and Xbox

[radiant prism]

I'm sorry, but this is legitimately, unironically a skill issue

[arctic grove]

imagine using "good" guns over the ones you like irl

[tacit sorrel]

Sweet spot existed

[arctic grove]

IW campaign was actually good with replayability. IW multiplayer was just bullshit OP guns you had to get with real money

[radiant prism]

I legit dominated with the lee enfield

[arctic grove]

I wish they just updated BF3 with new graphics

[shell ermine]

Speaking of, where the fuck are the remakes of BF2MC maps!? Backstab and Bridge Too Far are excellent maps

[tacit sorrel]

V you need headshots

[radiant prism]

True

[arctic grove]

Everything would be perfect

[arctic grove]

I wish Portal would just branch off into it's own remake thing

[next gulch]

They’d somehow mess it up, I don’t want it anymore

[arctic grove]

I wish portal had more than 6 maps

[radiant prism]

Agreed

[arctic grove]

exactly lol

[radiant prism]

Kinda sad portal didn't go further

[arctic grove]

And why can't we play breakthrough on them? What in the fuck

[radiant prism]

But I guess I'm happy they focused on the main game

[radiant prism]

Just amp the playercount on rush, good enough

[shell ermine]

Its funny how BF1 was the only modern Battlefield that didn't launch as a hot mess but also ended up being one of the worst Battlefield games

[arctic grove]

That too

playing Portal is like seeing all the things 2042 could've been just die right in front of your eyes

I genuinely don't understand why they don't have 32v32 rush

[shell ermine]

Rush should only be 16v16 max

[radiant prism]

True, but it has been awesome to watch AOW improve practically by the day

[arctic grove]

Rush XL kind of sucks

[tacit sorrel]

Rush died with bad company 2

[arctic grove]

It's such a meat grinder

[arctic grove]

Literally me, I was dumbfounded when people were saying the MW2 M16 sucks meanwhile I maxed that thing out in like a couple hours just cause I love the actual gun

[shell ermine]

But Rush has sucked every game after BC2

Yes, it was a good thing that crates could be damaged and blown up and not just armed

[tacit sorrel]

It did suck at launch

[radiant prism]

I shit you not, my boomer friend from norway who loves BF4 messaged me this morning and told me the DXR was the most fun he'd had in an FPS in a looooong time

Weird choice of a gun if you ask me

[arctic grove]

I’m super picky with my personal preferences though which leads to situations like in 2042 where I like the idea of playing the m5a3 with a long barrel and hp ammo (closest to how it looks irl) and it just gets outperformed repeatedly

[arctic grove]

I don't even get how the meta gun people enjoy the game, like bro I always make realistic and tacticool loadouts in these games, idc about having 1 more gigashit per bullet

[radiant prism]

But he was a DMR main on BF4

So idk

He's a weird lil creature

Love him tho

[next gulch]

All DMR mains are weird lil creatures

[radiant prism]

OH wait

nvm

I misread it this mornings

[arctic grove]

Honestly true it probably did, I picked MW2 up in December so it was probably from before then that they made it better

[radiant prism]

sleepy

He picked up the NTW

[arctic grove]

the new MW2 is overhated imho

CoD community never knows what they want

[shell ermine]

Maps largely suck

[arctic grove]

Same, I’m doing that in mw2 now despite the attachment balancing

[shell ermine]

10v10 made the whole game better imo

[radiant prism]

I really don't like MW2's skins

[tacit sorrel]

Mwii was overhyped

[arctic grove]

Just have to preaim way more

[shell ermine]

But I did love 3rd person

[radiant prism]

They remind me too much of CW

Whose skins I also hate

[next gulch]

CODs community is too big to please anyone

[arctic grove]

me neither but that's like the least important issue with CoD

[next gulch]

Every game has sucked since ghosts apparently

[tacit sorrel]

It’s a disgrace it’s even called mw2

[shell ermine]

Frankly it's the same with Battlefield's community

[radiant prism]

I have to agree to disagree since I'm a complete skin goblin, I have to have every skin lol

[arctic grove]

CW skins were yucky

MW2 genuinely has some dope skins tho, hell most of them you get just for buying the game with how they designed the games operators

Milsim skins in MW2 are top notch

[arctic grove]

To an extent, but it's obvious there is at least a line with us, 2042 was pretty much universally hated for a long time

[tacit sorrel]

Mw19>Mwii

[radiant prism]

There were admittedly a few cool skins...but most were just wack as hell

[arctic grove]

you must be a millionaire then

[radiant prism]

Nope...just shit at managing my finances LOL

[arctic grove]

CoD community just wants shoot the ship 24/7

[radiant prism]

I didn't buy much in CW tho

[shell ermine]

You (broadly) have two groups, the players who prefer larger slower combined arms sandbox Conquest matches, and the players who prefer smaller, faster, infantry-focused tightly focused Conquest and BT/Rush matches

[arctic grove]

The Mexican special forces skin is cool but… nitpick time…

The fucking skin doesn’t have character gloves

[arctic grove]

how are you not homeless? it's like 20$ per skin at the least in MW2

[radiant prism]

And if I don't like a skin I don't get it

[arctic grove]

(Side note) I miss black ops 1

[radiant prism]

I don't have MW2

[arctic grove]

well regardless yeah I'm sick of games ruining their artstyles for skins

[tacit sorrel]

Mw19 skins are so much better

[arctic grove]

Buy MW2 and play with Observer (he’s totally loving the game and doesn’t lose his sanity every time he plays it)

[shell ermine]

I frankly like Vanguard more than MW2022

[radiant prism]

Honestly

[arctic grove]

[radiant prism]

Vanguard tried something new

[shell ermine]

But I've had a trend of preferring SHG's CODs

[radiant prism]

Did it work? No

[shell ermine]

Loved WWII and AW

[radiant prism]

But it at least tried for a minute

[shell ermine]

Hated BO3 and 4

[arctic grove]

this chat trying to have a good opinion challenge (impossible)

[radiant prism]

MW2 is way too obsessed with ghost

[tacit sorrel]

To bad shg sucks

[shell ermine]

Indifferent to Ghosts and IW

[arctic grove]

MW2 released from the wrong publisher and studios, CoD is generally so fast paced and cartoony with balancing that MW2 just fucks with them too much

[radiant prism]

indeed

[shell ermine]

Only really liked MW19 for SnD and Ground War

[radiant prism]

I guess its good that they tried to turn ghost into an actual character

[shell ermine]

Hated the 6v6 gameplay

[radiant prism]

but lets face it, he was a side character in MW2

[shell ermine]

Oh and BOCW was garbage

[arctic grove]

MW2 would be fine if CoDs current SBMM didn’t exist, it would just have a different audience

[radiant prism]

The only thing he had going for him was the mask

and even that got ruined in MW22

[arctic grove]

Ghost was fine I just dunno why they tried to make him the poster boy of MW2

[radiant prism]

agreed

[tacit sorrel]

Sbmm shouldn’t exist when there’s a ranked mode imo

[arctic grove]

like why not just make Price the poster boy?

[radiant prism]

Thank you for putting what I'm trying to say in one sentence

[tacit sorrel]

Or it should be very loose anyway

[arctic grove]

They know he’s like the most memorable thing from the OG MW2

[radiant prism]

Because they did that with MW19 I guess.

Idk

[arctic grove]

Gotta cash in that nostalgia yah mean

[shell ermine]

How about a faceless soldier like the original MW2?

[arctic grove]

I miss that guy

[radiant prism]

Faceless soldiers don't sell skins to the eyes of a corpo

[arctic grove]

Isn’t that just Roach?

[radiant prism]

Wish they'd ditch that

Bring classes back next game, but give us skin sets

[arctic grove]

The gaming industry is done with faceless soldiers it seems, now it's all about quirky little heroes. Ironically though BF2042 has a smug badass faceless soldier on it's cover.

[radiant prism]

4 skins a pack, set with one for each class, common theme

Would be sick as fuck and I would totally pour money into it

[arctic grove]

Funny enough: MW19/2s milsim skins never impacted this, at least in my perception, since I always saw someone running a skin on one of the operators

[shell ermine]

Remember how the cover art for BC2 had the usernames of the lead devs on it like they were some MP squad?

[radiant prism]

guarantee you I wouldn't be the only one

[shell ermine]

That was weird

[radiant prism]

Yeah but thats because the Milsim skins were free for the most part weren't they?

[arctic grove]

If these guys want money they could at least appease to those of us who like faceless soldiers + operator skins like CoDs been doing to good effect. Like if they had that consideration I probably would’ve bought some skins by now in 2042

[arctic grove]

that was weird and ruined the art yeah idk why they did that lmao

[arctic grove]

every game should just do customization like BFV, minus the weird tom cruise specialists they tried adding toward the end

[arctic grove]

Yea

It’s just I always saw that one infamous Rose skin

[arctic grove]

let us make our own soldiers with era authentic shit

[radiant prism]

This is true, but then there were always a few people running cursed stuff

BFV was good...but too good.

[arctic grove]

2042 is perfect for it

[radiant prism]

agreed

[arctic grove]

within a couple of years, which is more likely, that 2042 will improve or die being worse than bf4

I didn’t mind the elites too much since it was a balance, I agree

[radiant prism]

option A, 100%

4 is already starting to falter

[arctic grove]

It’s newer. But it doesn’t hit the same, the comparison only exists in the games themes

[arctic grove]

2042 will be abandoned for 6

[arctic grove]

untrue

[radiant prism]

People said that about V, and 1 before that

[arctic grove]

yeah and V was abandoned

[arctic grove]

and it was true

[radiant prism]

Its far from death, don't get me wrong, but the cracks are definitely beginning to show

V as far as I know is alive and well

But I guess I could be wrong nowadays

[arctic grove]

I mean yeah but not any more than 2042's

I just can’t see the BF4 comparisons with this game. Maybe if specialists didn’t exist like I said, but with them there it’s just not gonna touch the immersion and theme reinforcement 4 has

Literally bought BF4 to virtually US marine larp

[radiant prism]

I'm keeping 4's age in mind. Its what, 10 years old now?

[arctic grove]

trying to fix 2042 to be better than 4 is like building an empire state building on top of a pile of disorganized bricks

If they want to set out to be better than 4 a large part of the work will be cosmetics. God I hate sounding like a broken record but I genuinely feel that to be true

[arctic grove]

graphically it has aged, I agree

and in general has too

but 2042 is no more advanced

which is sad

[radiant prism]

Mechanically too, in places. 4 just doesn't feel as good as modern games nowadays (IMO)

[arctic grove]

need to chill and do something else before a bot flags me

[radiant prism]

?? you should be fine?

[arctic grove]

agreed, but 2042 doesn't improve on like 90% of that

But my question is about what the company is capable of doing and how quickly the players can stop being interested. bf4 being how old it is I find games every day and the level of play is supreme.

Ye I know, I’m just fucking around cause I keep bringing up the same point

[radiant prism]

Feels better to me, but I guess thats just me. Really depends

And personally I think 4 shits the bed compared to V's gunplay

[arctic grove]

they really just need a clean slate, I don't think 2042 is capable of rebounding

it has fundamental flaws

[radiant prism]

Only slightly better than 1 IMO

[arctic grove]

I think 1 and 4 share pretty much the same gunplay outside of vertical recoil in 1

[arctic grove]

Agreed on that but V is V

not 2042

[radiant prism]

I think it has rebounded. Its initial set backs will keep it from rebounding past a certain height, but vast majority consensus would say the game has gotten 100x better since launch

[arctic grove]

I'm not saying it hasn't gotten better but I'm saying it's incapable of becoming one of the best BF games by a long shot

[fervent rose]

i see it. the launch map "sandbox" design with heavy focus on vehicles

[arctic grove]

What 2042 should do now and for the foreseeable future is add those legacy features, fix PC performance like mouse input and what not, but after that just can it

[arctic grove]

I still have fun with it too, don't get me twisted

I just realize you cannot fix a foundation this broken

[radiant prism]

Maybe yes. But at the end of the day, I don't think many people will care as long as its good enough

[arctic grove]

Ah yeah I hear ya on that

[arctic grove]

That's a bad thing

Accepting this game as being mediocre at best will just tell EA this is fine work

I guess to me the way I see it is mostly in theme. 2042 just doesn’t hold a candle when both in game teams are using the same character models

It's poorly designed from the start.
Currently, if the game is alive, it is because people fall like flies for it and they do not value very well what a good bf is or they are not interested, they simply buy and play until they are disgusted and wait for the next one.

I mean I have the Year 1 pass so shit, despite my massive burnout I still log on to do my challenges and complete the BPs

[radiant prism]

I don't mean accept mediocrity, I mean it doesn't have to be the absolute best thing ever as long as its good all around. I would personally say 2042 is rapidly approaching that point.

[arctic grove]

This is just one of many issues I have with it yes, fundamental issues that cannot/will not be fixed

After Year 1 though, I don’t think I’ll play it nearly as much anymore

[arctic grove]

Sure, I agree, but I still don't want EA to think it's okay to turn BF into this

[radiant prism]

Anyways...good talking, but I have some free weekenders to turn into corpses. Toodleoo!

[arctic grove]

Peace man

see ya

[arctic grove]

Agreed

[arctic grove]

I'll keep playing until 6

128 is the one foundation I personally like, I don’t think with reworked maps it’s nearly as bad but it’s more than adding cover and flow to the maps

[arctic grove]

Agreed, if they can figure out how to make good maps while also maintaining good graphics and destruction, then 128 players is fine in my book

It took me a couple of days, but hours after the sale ends, thanks to this thread I can decide not to buy this game for now

That’s why I always say 128 can work but it’s something I don’t think dice should bother with at least for a couple more games timespan

[arctic grove]

[zealous loom]

How is 2042s performance nowadays on PC? Have not played in months and some people said Battlefield is back so sounds like I gotta try it

[arctic grove]

Oh sheet my bad, I didn’t notice you asking any questions so that’s my fault

[arctic grove]

Agreed, especially if the engine and servers have to be substantially downgraded to maintain it.

[arctic grove]

Runs good for how it looks I suppose

depends on a lot though

[zealous loom]

Still have 100% CPU usage problems or?

[arctic grove]

for some

I always ask people who wanna know if the game is worth their time if they like the core foundations like 128 or the specialists, if not just save the money

But some already like it but stopped cause bugs/lack of content, in that case I always tell them to play again because it’s worth it now

[fervent rose]

128 isnt the only way to play anymore thankfully

[pastel loom]

the thing is
no matter the map size and design, one way or another
64v64 will get to fight in a single area
it's too much of a fest to bare

[fervent rose]

i avoid it for most of my gameplay

breakthrough and rush are more fun

[arctic grove]

even then you're ultimately left with a downgraded product and maps that were clearly designed for 128 people

[fervent rose]

the newer maps arent 128 maps

[arctic grove]

Orbital 64 is pretty good as an exception

[fervent rose]

Exposure yes, but the newest 3 are 64 maps

[arctic grove]

?

[fervent rose]

they just cram 128 in them

[arctic grove]

newest maps were designed for 128

[fervent rose]

nah man

Spearhead was 100% designed around 64

great map too

[arctic grove]

now decide whether to buy warhammer 3 or not

[fervent rose]

also supposedly exposure was gonna be way bigger

[arctic grove]

128 being canned only concerns me because I genuinely do like 2042s map themes and it’s just more space to do something cool with, like I can’t imagine Orbital being designed but from the perspective of 64p max being in mind in a way

[fervent rose]

even though its huge

[arctic grove]

Or Exposure lol

I just miss destructible city and village environments

why is every map designed around like massive indestructible industrial structures?

Something like Rotterdam or dawnbreaker 128 would probably play so bad when I think about it

[fervent rose]

mackay and sundance

the only infantry areas that work in this game are large tunnels / enclosed buildings

[arctic grove]

BF1 had so many good urban maps that were nearly fully destructible

[fervent rose]

if they have free access to all rooftops like manifest, the urban maps will play like poo compared to the older titles

[arctic grove]

specialists have killed nearly every part of this game for me lmfao I swear

[pastel loom]

because 128p
it can't have both

[limpid pond]

Are they ever gonna fix the ping issues in any battlefield game?

[arctic grove]

sure so then just get rid of 128 players, it ruined the map flow anyway

[hybrid totem]

the ping issues are the game...

[limpid pond]

Like my base ping right now because everyone's on the internet is 78 but bf says 38 lmao

[arctic grove]

Can confirm

I like playing tanks but in this game they make me want to cry

[limpid pond]

How does the game lie to you. It's the dumbest thing ever

[arctic grove]

You either get harassed by Lis rockets or get unpredictably flanked and die to a Sundance

[arctic grove]

It's like almost every bad design choice was in some part made because of these fuckers

[limpid pond]

I just spawn in a chopper and parachute onto them

[warm stirrup]

Anyone want to join a 128p breakthrough server?

[arctic grove]

Prob so EA can blame customers for their shitty servers and say "but our server says your PING is FINE, must be a YOU issue"

[arctic grove]

I honestly can’t be mad at this though ya know, or sneaking up to a tank to kill them, like in those cases that’s definitely the tank players fault, it’s just Sundance and Mackay are so awful for vehicles to play against

[limpid pond]

Yeah my Xbox console says the actual latency is 78

That means my console is having 78 ping or higher

Yet bf says 38

[arctic grove]

yeah exactly

[warm stirrup]

Custom breakthrough server, vehicles balanced for both sides...anyone?

[limpid pond]

But even titanfall 2 says 75

[arctic grove]

they wanna be able to say their servers are flawless in every case most likely

[limpid pond]

Makes no sense

[fervent rose]

i think its really bad because defense doesnt have air transport. so defense tanks get parachute c5'd but attacker tanks are able to shoot sector points from out of bounds

its not a good balance

[solemn bone]

Ong

[arctic grove]

if only the game had 4 classes with only one character to balance for each with a very particular skillset and arsenal in mind

..

That’s why C5 should just go to Engineer imo

But the game has minimal gadget content so someone would’ve eventually complained

[dense flume]

Recon lost it

[arctic grove]

the whole specialists system must make balance a fucking nightmare

[arctic grove]

True as well

[arctic grove]

and it observably does

Open loadouts were fun to abuse but that was it

[warm stirrup]

Anyone miss fake sniper dummy heads?

[arctic grove]

Mackay with ammo box and proxy grenades was XP incarnate

[arctic grove]

Yes

[arctic grove]

that was even worse lmfao God what were they thinking

“We will double the average team player count and make gadgets 100% accessible regardless of class”

[dense flume]

I like the concept of the specialists, but balance is nigh impossible

[arctic grove]

"fuck it just give every class every weapon on top of their special gadgets, also don't balance anything with that in mind"

Specialists aren’t bad if they just copy CoD and present both them and a milsim option and split them into 2 factions

[arctic grove]

I hate the concept, execution, and balance

[warm stirrup]

Would the game play better if weapons were class restricted?

[arctic grove]

just let it be like BFV where you can make your own character if they really wanna sell cosmetics

[arctic grove]

yeah

It would’ve happened had the game not been spoon fed guns

[dense flume]

Official modes with this are a thing

[arctic grove]

good

if only the whole game was like that

[arctic grove]

also this doesn't hurt the gameplay at all

[warm stirrup]

Who would get the utility weapons?

[arctic grove]

Utility would be shared probably

But take the rail gun out of utility

[dense flume]

Gotta love your infinite ammo explosives

[shell ermine]

Ideally they'd be split up into proper classes

[arctic grove]

^

[shell ermine]

One of BF4's biggest failings was the all class weapons

[arctic grove]

yeah I didn't like how it shared some

[dense flume]

Just bring back battle pickups

[arctic grove]

All class weapons weren’t too bad in that game since their gadget incentives were still large, although I can’t say I don’t remember how many damn Recons used the M4 carbine lol

[dense flume]

I was one of them

[arctic grove]

Then again I’m either playing golmud or locker. 90% chance out of those two I’m playing locker

[warm stirrup]

Assault - ar's
Engineer - lmg's
Support - smg's
Recon - sniper's
How does one split utility weapons?

[dense flume]

Water jet

[arctic grove]

You + the AEK mains used to create some insane rages from me

holy fuck AEK mains..

worst players ever

[dense flume]

I was on console at that time

[compact zealot]

Whats AEK?

[arctic grove]

a gun in BF4

op

[compact zealot]

LMG?

[arctic grove]

nah assault rifle

[warm stirrup]

Anyone trying to play 128 breakthrough?

[copper ice]

No

[arctic grove]

[compact zealot]

if anyone is on PC, feel free to add me on Steam. Dont have to do voice chat. Just looking for people to try and help me get better

[chrome rivet]

chcken

[wooden briar]

played 128p rush and i didnt even loaded the textures properly xd

so much intense

[unkempt hawk]

any tips using the throwing knife?

[shell ermine]

Can you progress challenges in bot matches?

[unkempt hawk]

i think so

u can unlock weapons and attachments against bots

[arctic grove]

For some reason this happens to me very often when playing with other people but with 127 bots it looks flawless

[chrome rivet]

for me 128p is hella easy to run... as i find like 10 enemies the whole match anyways

[wary wigeon]

Anyone want to party up?

[mortal sable]

best specialists for support and scout?

[sinful fossil]

I seem to be having some sort of glitch. The new RPT-31 says I still haven't unlocked the short barrel or AP rounds, even though it says 30/30 and I have unlocked later attachments that require higher numbers. Is there any fix for this? I was really looking forward to trying to AP rounds with it.

the Shan 2.5x scope was also supposed to unlock at mastery 1 and is still showing locked (30/30)

[silk surge]

About to send a job application to DICE Stockholm for a position that I'm more than qualified for.... Should I mention in my cover letter that I have 1300 hours in BF2042?

[sinful fossil]

I would lol

[silk surge]

Yeah, it sounded like a good idea in my head. It shows passion for said position. Thanks for confirming 😁

[shell ermine]

Man the throwing knife is awful

[silk surge]

Ppl on Reddit seems to think its a OP laserbeam that is better than every weapon.

[sinful fossil]

If you're doing the melee or throwing knife challenge, just play Dozer in Rush mode and defend the ops. you'll get 10 shield bashes in no time, and they count as melees

[silk surge]

^^^^ Dozer+smoke is a nightmare for enemies to deal with on Rush.

That's how I got T1 on him.

[sinful fossil]

I'm still T5 with Dozer, but I do use him every time I need melee kills for a challenge lol

Honestly, a really fun specialist to play, but not usually my style

[upbeat sand]

No matter what game dev jackfrags will always Dice Please

[shell ermine]

Man don't you just love it when medics ignore you all round and then when they do revive you it's out in the open with no smoke

[sinful fossil]

why are you dying out in the open? lol

[neat crane]

how come people never play bf3 on bf3 maps? why is it always erica harbor or el alamein

[shell ermine]

So you sit behind one piece of cover all match?

[sinful fossil]

I'm just joking with you lol

[wide shore]

This is why conquest of ages is the best portal mode

Just wish it was active more often

[arctic grove]

Anyone has an ideea of how much time do i have to spend on the discord server to message ModMail?

[wide shore]

Are you not able to out of the gate?

[sinful fossil]

For real though, anyone else get a bug where some attachments never unlock for a weapon? My RPT-31 seems to have skipped the mastery level 1 unlocks entirely, even though I have the later attachments

[quaint vector]

Our Team always reply as soon as possible

[wide shore]

Yes

[arctic grove]

I can`t send a message on the bot, it says i dont have enough time spent on the server.

[arctic grove]

I just find it fun
Especially when I get a kill it makes me feel good
Until I remember I exclusively play AI only

[sinful fossil]

was there anything unusual about when you (should have) unlocked that ammo? I remember trying to equip mine immediately mid round, and I don't know if that somehow caused it

[wide shore]

I was killing bots to unlock them. It used to happen a lot back on the day but I thought it was fixed.

[dense grove]

I just realized that I'm not seeing the desert eagle in Battlefield 2042 did they not add it in this game or did I miss out on earning it in one of the previous battle passes?

[sinful fossil]

Ah, I was playing against humans when I was supposed to unlock the AP rounds, so I guess that wasn't a factor. Hopefully they fix this too

[wide shore]

Tried using old methods to get them to unlock like getting to a new mastery level or playing a full match to completion. But they’re just locked. And since they’re the final unlock for that gun until T1 I don’t think I’ll unlock it until I get the T1 skin. Which is just lovely.

Not that I mind the RPT with the slow ROF but I would’ve really loved to try the standard rounds.

[sinful fossil]

I tried unlocking some other stuff, and it didn't seem to help

[wide shore]

It’s not in the game unfortunately.

[sinful fossil]

I would really love to try those AP rounds lol

[hexed reef]

Beans

[wide shore]

Seems the RPT is just cursed or something

[sinful fossil]

I'm a little comforted by the fact that I'm not the only one with a glitched RPT. Makes it more likely to get fixed lol

[wide shore]

Fingers are crossed my friend

[pulsar sluice]

anyone else unable to sign in on steam?

[buoyant trail]

Im fine on my end

[arctic grove]

AP Rounds.

[kindred flint]

first match of the day..canals in progress and the team had 1 cap and lost it
second match..new map in exodus which is still hot trash, team getting farmed by a nightbird and tank, lets try valparaiso now

with out fail...transport pilot who doesnt know how the condor works, why do these people spawn vehicles they are unable to use...

[heavy cave]

im new the bf 2042, could anyone tell me why i get so many directx errors?

[fervent rose]

usually gun unlocks that are bugged should trigger if you get a gun mastery level rank up in a normal pvp lobby

[spiral folio]

Yea I'm not being a passenger while there's a free trial

[kindred flint]

oh shit..good call

i have end of round music the entire match lmao..what is this

[karmic egret]

why i hate 128 player rush

750 tickets

who made this

[kindred flint]

missed point blank knife fuck me..

all i need is 2 more...

[spiral folio]

I stole landed transports during the last trial

People just leave em around
Keys in engines running

[kindred flint]

love it when the game doesnt let you jump up something..

[arctic grove]

dice please prevent transports from being accessible by enemies

DICE please make transports transports instead of the best combat vehicles in the game

[shell ermine]

And remove the main cannon

[stray ember]

I have a problem in bf2042 I can't move my camera left and right with mouse and keyboard

[buoyant trail]

[karmic egret]

skill issue

[buoyant trail]

I still got 1st squad overall but we had all the vehicles just camping in spawn

New players were actually playing the objective

[quaint vector]

Reset your binding and bind it again

[stray ember]

didn't work

[quaint vector]

Then its Controller time..

[stray ember]

No thank u

[arctic grove]

Yes thank u

[dense flume]

Feel free to add me on ea. Name is the same as discord

[pulsar sluice]

where do i ask for help starting the game, i cant get it to load it wont connect to the servers or whatever i get splash screen i get to the first load screen but never the main menu it just doesnt connect

ive tried uninstalling ive tried opening it through steam and the ea app i dunno what to do

[dense flume]

Keep trying, worked for me

[quaint vector]

!!Support

[tender pendant]

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[heavy cave]

i had the same issue, try running steam as admin

[dense flume]

Or the ea app

[heavy cave]

i run both as admin, even than it doesnt launch sometimes

i've been battling to get this game working since i bought it

[dense flume]

You have any logs?

[pulsar sluice]

I FIXED IT! I just had to disconnect nordvpn...thats what was wrong.

Bruh

I completely forgot that was on

[dense flume]

Vpns mess up drm a lot

[pulsar sluice]

Yeah I'll try to remember to turn it off when gaming

[dense flume]

You can probably make nord automatically do that

[kindred flint]

holy shit just missed a whole mag on someone because the tree trunk hitbox ate all my rounds..

[pulsar sluice]

Well I got good news, my progress from xbox carried over, I thought I'd have to restart

I'm happy now

[dense flume]

That tree is your enemy's best friend

[thorn leaf]

is there anyway to mute my character when it says RELOADING ?

[dense flume]

Nope

[shell ermine]

Ugh my capture/neutralize objectives challenge isn't tracking

[kindred flint]

lmao got the throwing knife kills though...and 56 total kills on top of that

[arctic grove]

same thing happened to me except it was on valparaiso

[kindred flint]

thats what i was on

over at uhhh b3

[arctic grove]

building was destroyed but the hitbox remained

for me

[kindred flint]

i was under one of the houses, near the hillside overlooking b2, and see an enemy boris running, prone against a tree resing someone

whole rm68 mag into nothing swapped to glock..still nothing, until he moved away

[arctic grove]

good to know this game has worse destruction hitboxes than a decade old game

[kindred flint]

then i got hit markers but died

[dense flume]

I really wish I could visualize hit boxes

[kindred flint]

it seems like destroyed walls are still catching my character..you cant just walk over them

so you have to jump through air..?

[arctic grove]

this too

how tf did they fuck even that up?

[kindred flint]

super fucking annoying...along with hearing end of round music the whole god damn match

[arctic grove]

the destruction hitboxes were fine in BF3 lmfao

and BFBC2

[dense flume]

I'm still having my vehicles spawn underground from time to time

[kindred flint]

the tower on valpariso needs to be destructible too...there are waaay too many morons who camp inside it or on top

[arctic grove]

these devs won't touch Portal with a 15ft pole let alone destruction in general

[kindred flint]

although i farmed uhhh at least 10 people with the airburst

[compact zealot]

I notice the game has sensitivity when aiming setting....is there a setting for sensitivity with just moving around (not aiming) PC

[kindred flint]

couple through the window, more on the roof

[dense flume]

Should be

[compact zealot]

what is the purpose and how do you use the airburst

[arctic grove]

for some reason they call it "sensitivity when aiming" even though it's regular sensitivity

[compact zealot]

so is there a setting for sensitivity with aiming

or are they both the same

[kindred flint]

zoom in with it, that sets the distance, there is also a keybind that will allow you to reset the distance the rounds will detonate at, shoot

the rounds fly 3m past the point of distance iirc...then explode

[arctic grove]

you can set it so that each individual scope has it's own sensitivity but afaik it's the same

for whatever reason I think non English devs did the settings

so shit has typos and weird names

[compact zealot]

is it to mark enemies or damage?

[kindred flint]

damage

the airburst rounds are like mini grenades

takes 3 to kill someone from 100hp

[compact zealot]

so i want to aim at an enemy from a far distance

and if i remember correctly, it does lock on (kinda)

[kindred flint]

it has a 100m range

[compact zealot]

or lets me know when i get an enemy in sight right?

[kindred flint]

they made it a thermal scope a couple updates ago

[compact zealot]

will the cursor do anything if someone is in or out of range

[kindred flint]

so you can just scan and see the yellow/warm body figure

[compact zealot]

oh ok

[shell ermine]

They can't see through smoke though, so kinda pointless

[inner roost]

Aim at a piece of cover where an enemy is behind, lock the distance and aim above it

[compact zealot]

when they talk about "zoom" sensitivity, there talking about actual zoom type aiming, not just regular aiming correct

like aiming with different zoom levels

[arctic grove]

Yes I believe so

[dense flume]

Ads, probably

Or the variable zoom

Scopes

[compact zealot]

yea..... so the 1.00x zoom...is that just normal ADs

or yeah, it basically is for any scope type zoom?

[arctic grove]

without an optic yeah

[dense flume]

Ironsights

[compact zealot]

so when aiming....say with an attachment that has different zoom levels...how do i change the zoom level

PC

[arctic grove]

that's not a thing

just a flat zoom level for each optic iirc

[dense flume]

Certain scopes can change zoom

[arctic grove]

wait really?

damn

nvm then

[dense flume]

Sniper scopes

[compact zealot]

i watched a video where a guy pulled up a weird looking UI where you can change zoom levels

it was like a 3d UI of alll your attachments on your gun

[arctic grove]

oh you press T

[dense flume]

Hold t

[compact zealot]

and you could change attachments

[solemn bone]

hi guys

[compact zealot]

so if I hold T, that will allow me to switch out an attachment in real time

[arctic grove]

yep

[compact zealot]

and then whatever attachment i have, as a set zoom

unless it has an option to flip up a thermal optic right?

[dense flume]

That is not a thing

[compact zealot]

i swear I had a gun that had a sight

[arctic grove]

there is a thermal optic that you can switch to but theres no way to flip

[compact zealot]

and i pushed something and it altered that sight

[arctic grove]

oh that's the new assault rifle with canted sights

that's only for that gun

[compact zealot]

oh ok

[dense flume]

Canted sights were amazing in the older games

[compact zealot]

whats canted mean

[tired quest]

not really tbh

but anyway are active radar missiles bugged to hit 100% of the time or something? I Pop my flairs and it still hits

[compact zealot]

thanks for your help...gonna jump into a game. will be back with questions. Really love the game and and thanks for your help

[tired quest]

Iron sights that are off to the side

Instead of on top of the gun

[dense flume]

It reacquires target

[arctic grove]

I've always hated canted sights in games and irl, just seem kinda wonky to me personally

not really needed 99% of the time

[dense flume]

If you had slugs on a shotgun...

[compact zealot]

one more thing...I have four side mouse buttons (2 on the left and 2 on the right) .... one is for crouch, one is for prone, one is for interact and I am using another side mouse button for "steady aim"...middle mouse click is Ping.... still trying to figure out what is used the most in this game (they say keep FPS keybinds the same but not all FPS use the same actions as others)

[dense flume]

Ping

[compact zealot]

I still dont understand how it works exactly but learning as I go

[dense flume]

Spotting

[uncut flax]

Does anyone know if the season badge still tracks improperly

[compact zealot]

still trying to focus on staying alive and helping teammates

thanks for the help ya.''...if you havev anyu more advice, ping me on here. Trying to get a good feel for the game

[limpid pond]

It's official bruh svk and bsv are 100% the best dmrs

Svk easily the best if you have somewhat decent aim

[arctic grove]

https://www.xbox.com/play/media/D55YDSMKU6

Just had the most insane roadkill while flying away from a night bird lol

I’ll always remember that time I completely accidentally got an air roadkill by this dude hopping out of a transport

Like a 1% chance of that ever happening

Who needs rendezook when you can just hit some guy at Mach 0.8 while he hops out of a transport

Are wildcats too strong??? Discuss

They’re weak at fighting anything that isn’t aircraft or light armored vehicles

As they should be

I just played a round on exposure

Even with 57mm and agms that’s about it

But I feel like they’re slightly overtuned against planes

There isn't a single spot on that map you can't get shot at from by the wildcat

600 meter anti air missile range means you have to flare and turn around way before you get any chance of getting something done

Or you’ll get peppered by 30mm

[solemn bone]

some kid just dug his nails into my hand and a massive chunk of skin is missin from my hand

[arctic grove]

You still get peppered by the 30mm

It's just never worth your team's time to seek them out to kill them so it's left up to the air vehicles, sadly

[arctic grove]

Disinfect and wash it

[solemn bone]

nah im alright as an aussie i dont feel pain

• im at school

they dont do jack shit

[arctic grove]

Forbid they sit in safe spots like spawn or something because normally they’re easy to kill with the tanks

[buoyant trail]

throw the kid into the brush

[shell ermine]

Boris needs a second turret. Like how Irish has two gadgets Boris should have an AA turret in addition to his regular turret (but only one deployed at once).

[arctic grove]

Poor boris already been nerfed once

[eager spire]

Boris needs a rework without that dipshit turret.

[shell ermine]

I feel like there was an automatic AA turret in a Battlefield before, but I'm not entirely sure that's true

[arctic grove]

It was in a game called Battlefield heroes

look it up

[shell ermine]

Wasn't there something in the Naval Strike DLC?

[arctic grove]

Not sure i need to double check

[shell ermine]

Found it.
https://battlefield.fandom.com/wiki/Anti-Air_Mine

[arctic grove]

Crawford is more useful for his passive than his actual gadget lol

Basically just do the same thing for Boris. Just absolutely crack him out in some way that fits the engineer role with a passive, considering his only makes his turret slightly better

Would like to see Boris carry one extra missile when he takes jav/m5/aa

[spiral folio]

I dont even renember AA guns in heroes

You just kinda shot em

Ah nm there were

:v

[buoyant trail]

I maybe got 3 kills with that damn aa mine it felt so useless against some of the giga tryhard littlebird pilots

[spiral folio]

Most bf games do have turrets of some form. 2042 doesnt for ??? Reasons

They keep nerfing any weapons that can damage air so..

[arctic grove]

It doesn’t have a lot of things most bf games have

[spiral folio]

Wish it didnt have classes

But people got what they asked for deserved

[eager spire]

tbh having automated turrets is stupid, there just shouldn't be any.

[spiral folio]

Fallout handled it

Doesnt seem that hard

[arctic grove]

Tbf fair battlefield 2042 didn't have many legacy features but now it's really starting to look like one of the battlefield games

[river isle]

there is lots of automated stuff in the military, doesnt really change the point but its not far out at all. as far as should there be in game who knows, doesnt seem like that big of a deal theyre not that accurate

[spiral folio]

A ton of military hardware is fire and forget now

[eager spire]

here's the thing: i don't give a damn if it's a thing in real life, we're talking about a video game here.

[spiral folio]

But true smart weapons arent fun

[eager spire]

so i'm going to choose to think about it in terms of it being a video game.

[river isle]

heres the thing, dont die to a inaccurate bot seems like a personal problem

[spiral folio]

So they dumb them down

[arctic grove]

Imagine getting shot down by robo dog

[river isle]

^

[spiral folio]

Super ranger with railgun

[eager spire]

here's the thing, i don't, they're just annoying to deal with on top of other players, and only serve to be backup to less skilled players.

[arctic grove]

Sentries are fun to kill fun

[river isle]

heres the thing, if you dont die to them why are you complaining about them

[eager spire]

"oh no i can't play the game, send out the robot dog with way more HP to distract him so i don't die"

[eager spire]

because it's annoying, have you not been paying attention

[arctic grove]

Imagine a group of bori's just sending out 10 sentries

[eager spire]

i would like to think i've been perfectly clear up to this point

[river isle]

dont play the game then

EZ

[arctic grove]

I mean in a strategic way its good for holding down points but battlefield is run and gun

Simply do not enjoy the product you paid for
-someone based

We also cannot balance around what’s just annoying and isn’t. To be fair everything’s annoying when it’s effective against how you’re playing

[fervent rose]

[arctic grove]

L opinion

My shits better than your shit

[fervent rose]

shooting automated turret fun compared to shooting enemy player

[arctic grove]

And any shit that shits on my shit

[fervent rose]

good 1 dud

[arctic grove]

Is shit

[river isle]

1

its spelt one

[arctic grove]

Uno

Ek

[tired quest]

so it jusr always hits you?

[river isle]

debatably coming in with another hot take

[arctic grove]

Jets are good

[dense flume]

seems like it

[river isle]

me when

[arctic grove]

Oh wait nvm

Jets gotta get their general controls + crosshairs for the cannons fixed

[eager spire]

here's my thought process behind it, if something doesn't take effort to use and generally only exists to be a distraction for a less skilled player, then why have it in the game at all? It's not useful otherwise.

[arctic grove]

He said debatable as in the guy

[river isle]

[arctic grove]

Vehicle momen

Tonk fun you shoot and kill

No skill required to learn

[river isle]

one of the games of all time amr

[arctic grove]

Hard to master

[river isle]

[arctic grove]

Lmfao as if mastering shit will prevent transports from railing any living thing

[river isle]

when they adding sentry skins in store finna cop them up

[arctic grove]

Imagine playing weapons

[arctic grove]

I would say if Boris turrets and Ranger drones are that prominent to crack out the EMP grenades

Hog rider should be like a modded skin for the atv

Anyways I go now

[river isle]

when they adding hog rider

debatably whats good.

[eager spire]

you crack out the EMP nades because if not then you're having to duck in and out of cover while you're killing the person that called it in, and then spending like 2-3 mags killing the thing they called in. It just serves to be a minor stopgap to make up for the fact that person who called it in likely can't play the game.

[river isle]

whats the TLDR

[arctic grove]

Rangers are so tunnel visioned you can jump slide past em half the time anyways and go where you need to go, if it’s that bad you theoretically can just stay away from that area till a later time and do something else

But yes that may be what happens if you don’t use the counter intended for them

But they’re so lackluster rn you mostly won’t even need to use emp grenades

[eager spire]

so they're not even good at what little purpose they have. so again, why have them in the game?

[arctic grove]

Don’t add them next time around

I’m not denying they’re useless, but they aren’t that much of a stopgap for anything

[eager spire]

they're a minor stopgap to protect players who can't play the game. genuinely i think shit like this should just stop being added to games, if you're gonna start up the game, you should be made to play the fucking game, not have something do shit for you.

[acoustic seal]

I LOVE FIGHTING FORCE MULTIPLIERS, I LOVE GETTING INSTANTLY DELETED BY THE CAV JUST FOR EXISTING

[arctic grove]

Think you made it mad….

[eager spire]

good it can cry about it

[arctic grove]

Use rockets, I was surprised to see this one dude driving it actually being shredded by the wildcat

[acoustic seal]

IT HAS APS AND CDS

[arctic grove]

Oh shit lol

That was just that dude I was driving withs cav load out then