battlefield-2042

[inner ether]

Then the C5 squirrel drops in and everyone dies

[next onyx]

Don't think it should just disable a lock regardless of its use.

One massive thing the jammer does is hide the signature of whoever is under its effects.

[lucid jackal]

Very good game

[next gulch]

Next BF should be 256 players

maybe we have the technology to do what a PS3 game did 13 years ago

[pastel loom]

yeah
make the tickrate go below 45hz
and remove destruction altogether

[eager spire]

we can't even do 128p well, why do 256?

[next gulch]

it's def already below 45hz lol

you're right, even 128 they could barely do

[pastel loom]

bf planetside

[slender isle]

We need 1000 player The finals

[lunar finch]

why did they ever add the sph.

[slender isle]

Make at least some cover indestructable

[eager spire]

they probably just thought it'd be funny

They certainly look down on people who don't like explosive spam if Straatford's comments on people saying it should be reduced are any indication.

[lunar finch]

it just feels like play irish or die now lmao

[next gulch]

Pretty disappointed they nerfed the SPH

[eager spire]

Community Manager Of The Game By The Way

[next gulch]

yeeeboooiii he got wrecked

[lunar finch]

never played a bf with explosives this busted and annoying

[slender isle]

Hopefully all the transport vehicles will lose explosive passenger guns

[eager spire]

probably has something to do with the fact that you can just toss a grenade launcher on your gun any time you feel like, mid-life.

[next onyx]

Don't really think that makes a difference when you can spawn with one.

[next gulch]

DICE just needs to add mortars, that'll fix the explosive spam

[eager spire]

???????????????????????????????????

[idle lion]

there needs to be an attrition rate for the defenders in BT otherwise sites like C1 on Exposure will never be taken

[slender isle]

Yes

[eager spire]

how will that fix it and not make it worse.

[slender isle]

Allow us to equip the one off the MAV on our players

[next gulch]

It just will, DICE should just add it already

and no takesies backsies

[eager spire]

how will it do that

[lunar finch]

those things seriously need a nerf

[slender isle]

Correct

[lunar finch]

those mortars on the tank and mav are like nukes

[slender isle]

All the Explosive vehicle rounds need a nerf

not the main driver shot

but the 30mm, 40mm nade, 50mm, and mortar

[lunar finch]

yk after being blown up 50 times maybe the flashbangs in mw2 arent that bad

[next onyx]

If anything. They need to look into how lethal explosives are.

[slender isle]

Frags are in a good spot, all throwables are pretty good imo

[next onyx]

Grenades have a short as hell fuse timer with a gigantic explosion, Grenade launchers have a stupid kill zone.

You can't even run away from a frag grenade when it lands on your feet reliably.

[slender isle]

That's the point isn't it?

[next onyx]

No.

[eager spire]

they really should, especially due to the incredible amount of them there are in this game, and responding with "we have the fun police on speed dial" to reasonable complaints about this does not help with anything.

[next onyx]

You'll be sprinting and they'd still kill you.

[eager spire]

It's even worse when this shit is coming from the Community Fucking Manager

[slender isle]

He says that when stuff is getting changed

[next onyx]

Wow a community manager having a bit of fun.

The worst thing in the world.

[eager spire]

I'm sorry it just strikes me as him talking down to someone with reasonable complaints

and it's something that really annoys me especially considering his role

[slender isle]

Okay? I mean, that's just how people refer to them when they nerf stuff

[idle lion]

im thinking they add routes on the map from the enemy spawn to the point and if all routes get cut then the attrition timer starts ticking, and when it runs out you are forced to pull back or you will be killed in 30 seconds

[next onyx]

Last sector is supposed to be the hardest.

[slender isle]

Too bad it's the opposite on flashpoint

First sector? easy, second sector? hard, third sector? easy, fourth sector? hard, final sector? easy.

[idle lion]

not impossible?

which it currently basically is

[slender isle]

Which map?

[idle lion]

Exposure

[slender isle]

I love that last sector

Throw a tank shooting into the thing

done

[idle lion]

until they fall back behind the middle wall

[lunar finch]

exposures last sector is pretty hard but if u just spam a 30mm latv into there its free because the devs cant balance tranpsort

[idle lion]

and then tank does nothing

[slender isle]

Blame the tank driver

[idle lion]

until someone with a jav from on top of the mountain

[lunar finch]

yeah thats gonna rarely happen

and u can always just play blasco

[idle lion]

it happened 3 times

in 1 game

[idle lion]

afaik blasco doesnt destroy aps

and aps is the main thing stopping infantry from actually pushing

[slender isle]

Casper

use casper

[next onyx]

Exposures current layout sucks yes but generally with breakthrough the last sectors are meant to be the hardest for the attackers.

[idle lion]

caspers drone bearly fit in the thing and are way too seeable plus theres a shit ton delay between charges while that irish can place 2 aps down

[slender isle]

3 casper

[idle lion]

sure, 3 casper but good luck coordinating that with randos

meanwhile the dudes dont even need to coordinate to setup a defense

[slender isle]

I'm sure there are a ton of ways to clear out an APS

You can use a casper, can C5 around the corners

can just shoot people

30mm

Casper drone

Dozer run

[fading smelt]

ive just gotten bf2042 cause its free this month with ps plus. not having the ability to cahnge zero distance with snipers is hella cringe

[acoustic seal]

aim higher

[fading smelt]

[eager spire]

your first mistake was trying to snipe in this game

[fading smelt]

or they just shouldnt of removed a feature thats been in every battlefield prior

[rocky kraken]

welcome to modern gaming

[acoustic seal]

zeroing only enabled more cringe behavior so i can't say i mind it's gone

[slender isle]

Now I do cringe behaviour... but with skill

[rocky kraken]

zeroing only?

tf does that even mean

you could still manually adjust with the ability to rangefind

no excuse for it to be absent

[eager spire]

all it did was enable cringe behavior.

[acoustic seal]

zeroing (feature) enabled low effort sniping which creates a bad gameplay experience for everyone around you

[rocky kraken]

never once thought that

never used snipers

[karmic egret]

Sniping 🤮

[fading smelt]

u still gotta know the distance to zero too and 90% of the time you still ahd to adjust ur aim to hit even with zeroing

[eager spire]

and what do you think you're doing while you're trying to figure that out?

[rocky kraken]

everyone here just wants bf to be cod

its blatantly obvious

[slender isle]

WHAT

a 6v6 shooter?

[hexed reef]

Ew cod

[chilly jacinth]

no zeroing makes sniping harder

[hexed reef]

Ban yourself for saying that

[acoustic seal]

i want to stop getting plinked for 80 by idiots half a mile away from where i am

[rocky kraken]

maybe just dont get sniped and stand still

i mean like its pretty simple

i would understand the lack of rangefinding in 2042 but the snipers dont even have any drop

barely any drop at all

[hexed reef]

[rocky kraken]

you dont even have to aim up in 2042

its hilarious

[eager spire]

snipers in previous games had hilariously exaggerated bullet drop because bullet speed values were set incredibly low. presumably as a balancing thing.

[rocky kraken]

it was better like that

ngl

[chilly jacinth]

sniping was and is still very easy

in past games

[eager spire]

Personally, I find the practice to be not worth doing in a game like this. You have to have really good aim and awareness to do well with it, which most BF players don't have, and the benefit a good sniper brings to a team is very minimal.

[rocky kraken]

2042 sniping got dumbed down

its just a known fact

actually the entire game

[chilly jacinth]

cry

[rocky kraken]

you cant deny it

[eager spire]

what, he's right.

[rocky kraken]

even with cope

i coped for too long

2042 still is lackluster

waiting for the next game

[next onyx]

Wow a rifle meant for a range actually good at it?

[hexed reef]

[rocky kraken]

just gotta say

[next gulch]

DICE just needs to remove sniper rifles already

[rocky kraken]

sniper rifles belong in battlefeild

just not bf 2042

doesnt fit the gameplay

and speed

[eager spire]

I don't think they do. I don't think they add anything to this or most FPS games, to be frank.

[chilly jacinth]

it has larger sized maps

[next gulch]

nah they've just annoyed everyone since forever

[chilly jacinth]

and they dont fit?

what

[rocky kraken]

yea they dont fit

[next onyx]

Eh they're a ranged rifle that's worked on a game where the soldiers could run just as fast.

[slender isle]

That's up to around 150m, past that it drops off significantly, until around about 800m where it's off the 6x scope

[fervent rose]

this is an absurd take

[rocky kraken]

snipers are boring

bad

[eager spire]

and you're surprised?

[next gulch]

nah he finally has a take that's based

[rocky kraken]

and i could do the same with an ak

[slender isle]

Skill issue?

[rocky kraken]

with laser precision

[next gulch]

BASED TAKE #REMOVERECON

[rocky kraken]

so why use a sniper when i could use an ar thats better

[eager spire]

shut up, you

[karmic egret]

How about nerfing the SFAR

[fervent rose]

recon isnt a problem. bad recons are annoying but a good player who gets headshots isnt an issue

[rocky kraken]

naw

[slender isle]

Cause you can't take those extended ranges?

[rocky kraken]

nerf every gun

[acoustic seal]

i wouldn't mind snipers if they had mechanics that didn't reward being braindead

[hexed reef]

[rocky kraken]

thats teh problem

snipers in 2042 are braindead to use

[stiff pollen]

im never touching 128p again. there was a level 999 orbit camping with a 30mm apache

[rocky kraken]

HAAAAAAAAAAA

[stiff pollen]

WHOEVER SAID 128 PLAYER IS FUN IS A LIAR

[eager spire]

oh. I think i've seen him.

[rocky kraken]

agreed

[slender isle]

That'll happen in 64p tf you mean

[karmic egret]

level 999

[rocky kraken]

naw

[eager spire]

anyway

[rocky kraken]

next game goes back to 64p

or im not playing

[next gulch]

Ah nice you can do that in 2042? BF3 throwback

[karmic egret]

it will probably stay 128

[mental cave]

just join the 64p playlist

[rocky kraken]

cause i know damn well the maps will once again suck ass

[slender isle]

"Hey guys, let's go backwards in our technology"

[fervent rose]

hes gonna buy it no matter what

[stiff pollen]

I WENT TO 128 FOR 2 GAMES AND GOT BOMBED FROM ORBIT BY A TACTIC FROM THE ALPHA

[karmic egret]

just without old gen consoles

[rocky kraken]

going to 128p broke battlefield

[acoustic seal]

fuck that, give me a 24-32 battlefield with some maps that aren't hot garbage

[rocky kraken]

so i dislike it

128 killed 2042

[acoustic seal]

you could make an entire game around bf1 frontlines

[chilly jacinth]

its still alive

[next gulch]

128 is the only thing that makes this game worth playing

[slender isle]

Give me 256 players. Double down

[rocky kraken]

2042 has such a low player count they had to make it free on console

:/

[slender isle]

Bro what?

[rocky kraken]

game is free

lel

[slender isle]

Yeah.... 16 months after launch

[mental cave]

500 v 500 fuck it

[rocky kraken]

no bf was ever free

[slender isle]

just like bfV was on EA play Pro

[chilly jacinth]

it aint free last i checked

[next gulch]

Planetside 2 but not boring, DICE make it happen

[rocky kraken]

thats shameful to those who played

gamepass and ps plus get it for free

[karmic egret]

nah triple down give us 384 players

[slender isle]

Exactly what we need

[rocky kraken]

meanwhile preorders payed over 100 dollars

[slender isle]

1000 Players per team

[chilly jacinth]

you still pay that subscription

[rocky kraken]

500 v 500 you getting a png of a potato

[chilly jacinth]

which means it aint free

[mental cave]

the game isnt free? you have to keep paying 60 a month every month to have access to battlefield on ps plus and ea play…

[rocky kraken]

the sub is like 5 dollars

[next gulch]

Battlefield MMO

[rocky kraken]

and like 1 $ for ps plus

[acoustic seal]

you will be shocked to hear that all the problems planetside had are present RIGHT NOW in 2042

[karmic egret]

Now that is a BATTLEfield

[rocky kraken]

that shit is free

[mental cave]

bro you’re fucking high

[chilly jacinth]

no

[rocky kraken]

In some regioins ps plus is 1$

[fervent rose]

planetside 2 but not boring (lmao good one)

[slender isle]

Damn... maybe i'll like planet side (I did when I played it 6 years ago)

[rocky kraken]

just face the facts

[mental cave]

heavy doubt

prove it

right now

[next gulch]

the #1 problem with PS2 is the existence of friendly fire, so NOT YET

[rocky kraken]

the steam store gets it to 15 bucks

[fervent rose]

planetside 2 cannot ever work

[acoustic seal]

it's 11 years old, dead, and dying under crippling technical bugs

[stiff pollen]

game is "free" if you have ps plus this month or have gamepass

[eager spire]

Let me explain my rationale on this. Sniping as a practice mostly focuses on stealth takedowns of high value or ranking targets from a distance. In my honest opinion, this practice does not gel with a video game where people respawn and can get revived even after being shot in the head. Like i've said before, sniping takes a large amount of practice, decent aim, and decent awareness, things that most BF players do not have. It largely just leads to people not really contributing much to the team while trying to cosplay as Chris Kyle and barely hitting any shots while doing so.

It is due to this that I feel that sniping and rifles primarily associated with that practice do not need to be in the game.

[rocky kraken]

triple a title for 15$

i mean

its not even worth 10

but ya know

[chilly jacinth]

tldr?

[eager spire]

I am not giving a tldr, you're gonna read it.

[slender isle]

Hell yeah. 1000 player teams, the finals style destruction (with some indestructible stuff so you have cover), vehhicles, classes, and squads, and then boom... Battlefield

[hexed reef]

500 boins should I double it and give it to the next person

[fervent rose]

"bad players cant hit shots so we cant have sniping" ?

man fuck that i am gonna hit some heads

[eager spire]

please actually read the statement.

[chilly jacinth]

i read some mumbojumbo about hvts and shit

[next gulch]

no one here can read sorry

[rocky kraken]

naw

[fervent rose]

i did. its just me joking a little bit

[rocky kraken]

ea buys embark

im callin gitr

[chilly jacinth]

meanwhile i run around in close quarters with snipers

[fervent rose]

either way theres nothing broken or wrong with bf snipers (besides bf1)

[next gulch]

EA should buy out The Finals just to shut it down

[fervent rose]

higher effort required, higher rewards

[stiff pollen]

if you want anything larger than 128 go play planetside

[slender isle]

You realise the entire point of that studio was cause they didn't want to be with EA

[stiff pollen]

and they still made a bad game

[slender isle]

No. We may not have the tech rn, but in let's say 6 years we might

[eager spire]

I just don't think the practice fits or really works with BF. It's higher effort for fewer rewards, because reasonably, what impact could a sniper possibly have on a match where people respawn and can get revived even if shot in the head?

[slender isle]

Hell, 6 years ago we had hardline (by the time 2042 came out)

[next gulch]

The Finals is a threat to my Battlefield waifu, it needs to be eliminated

[acoustic seal]

actually do not play planetside under any circumstances

[slender isle]

Oh are people actually saying this?

[next gulch]

no just me

[eager spire]

The Finals is...not something that BF players are gonna like.

[slender isle]

That's like saying siege is destroying BF

[acoustic seal]

good news, it's shit and will be forgotten about in 3 months

[limpid pond]

Tf is finals?

[next gulch]

YES

[stiff pollen]

the finals is literally a tech demo of unreal more than it is a game

[limpid pond]

Sounds like some wack boss

[eager spire]

hell, it's a game that's not even that great.

it has a lot of issues.

[fervent rose]

literally nothing matters in any battlefield game. i dont care if snipers are not perfectly viable in a game of all top 1% players, they work just fine in any regular lobby @eager spire

[next gulch]

Anyone remember WW3? Probably not

[limpid pond]

No idea what it even is

[stiff pollen]

you know the matrix UE5 demo? its like that but you can get shot by a dude invisible with a glock

[slender isle]

The finals. Made by embark studios. Is a 3v3v3v3 game tournament game where you can blow up the entire map

it's an FPS

[limpid pond]

That sounds dumb

[next gulch]

wow that sounds horrible, they just should close up shop

[limpid pond]

100% it's gonna flop

[hexed reef]

Happens every night

[stiff pollen]

DONT WORRY THO, THE STORE AND BATTLE PASS SYSTEM WORKS IN THE CLOSED BETA

im not joking

[slender isle]

Remember blood money in Hardline? Yeah that is the gamemode

[limpid pond]

I'll bet 100$ that the game dies in the first 2 months

[next gulch]

WOW CRINGE

[slender isle]

I mean it's free so probably not

gameplay loop looks pretty good imo

[stiff pollen]

its free 100%

[eager spire]

do they work, though?

[stiff pollen]

its published by nexon

[limpid pond]

Take the bet then

[stiff pollen]

aka its gonna be fucking hell

[fervent rose]

do they not work for you?

[next gulch]

@stiff pollen There it is dood, the #1 sign it will be destroyed

[eager spire]

I guess they work on a technical level but do people actually use them well, or are people just trying to cosplay Chris Kyle while being shit at aiming?

[limpid pond]

Like I said splitgate was a cool game too

Million software download in 1 week

[stiff pollen]

arc raiders i have some expectations but DICE also has shown time and time again they have no idea how to do coop let alone an engaging pve game

[slender isle]

Seeing as it's free, has a good gameplay loop, and at a technical level is amazing, I'd say it'll be fine

[fervent rose]

like i used the most recent "sniper" and it was a fucking joke how much impact i could put out in a game

[limpid pond]

Died not even a month later

[stiff pollen]

but yeah the finals is gonna hyperscape itself

[limpid pond]

Nah it'll flop

[fervent rose]

that railgun is insane

[slender isle]

That's due to them shutting the servers down due to not being able to support the player base

[limpid pond]

Splitgate suffered the same.issue

So did bloodhunt

[stiff pollen]

splitgate didnt even die

they announced they abandoning it to work on a sequel with their seed money

[limpid pond]

Lmfao yes it did

[stiff pollen]

they got 100 million dollars to make a sequel?

[eager spire]

eh, the gameplay loop leaves something to be desired, visual recoil and clutter out the ass, confusing gunplay and some questionable balance choices[The strength of the medic beam]

[slender isle]

Splitgate suffered the issue of being a college project that the devs could not keep up with. Hence them making a game studio and then making a sequel

[next gulch]

oh so it died for a sequel that will never be made

[stiff pollen]

yes

[limpid pond]

A game doesn't just get abandoned in like 2 weeks

[next gulch]

they took that money and ran 100%

[slender isle]

Well that's fine? Half of that can be changed via the time it comes out

[bitter trellis]

if the game is crossplay why i cant play with ps5 players?

[slender isle]

Like visual clutter and balance

Plus weapon handling

[lunar finch]

and the second one will prob die too lol. splitgate only did well because cod was at its lows

[stiff pollen]

or the ttk

[slender isle]

Gameplay loop can be fixed with more gamemodes

[fervent rose]

i dont think they can fix the weird movement delay stuff

[limpid pond]

Enough talk. 100$ the game dies in 2 months

[stiff pollen]

and hype for halo was high

[next gulch]

@bitter trellis If you're on last gen you only play with Xbox One/PS4

[slender isle]

Maybe not, that could be server side

[fervent rose]

finals looks like a dead in 2 months or maybe worse like a hyperscape situation

[eager spire]

personally i don't think the amount of visual clutter The Finals has could ever be considered okay by any metric, plus there hasn't been any indication that they're planning to address either of these concerns.

[next gulch]

LUL Hyperscape forgot that existed

[stiff pollen]

like i said, i think the finals is more a tech demo of ue5 than a game

its got all the signs

amazing visuals, cool premise

[slender isle]

Well Embark have that other game, I'm sure this was a test for that. But if they can fix something in it to keep it valid then go for it

[eager spire]

hard to run and kind of annoying to actually play

[fervent rose]

the premise is just "rng destruction"

some people will like it but idk

[stiff pollen]

arc raiders is a PVE game

[slender isle]

They did state they have listened to the player feedback and are working on stuff

[stiff pollen]

so that actually has a good chance

[eager spire]

what stuff in particular, though?

[stiff pollen]

thing is most people i know... they either play destiny, DRG or PD2 or L4D for their pve itch

[slender isle]

No clue, but that's up to them to choose. It's their game

[fervent rose]

yea but it looks to have genuinely interesting enemies to fight unlike most of these pve games

we'll see tho

[stiff pollen]

true

[slender isle]

If they feel changing the TTK or visual clutter takes away from their vision then power to them

[limpid pond]

No one gonna take my bet?

[stiff pollen]

but that can just be equated to monster hunter

[limpid pond]

How about this I'll pay the 100$ and you don't have to pay anything

[stiff pollen]

im not betting 100 bucks but the game will be dead outside of maybe asia

[slender isle]

I mean the game will be dead in 3 weeks when the beta ends lmao

[eager spire]

I think if the visual clutter is part of their vision then they should fuck off.

genuinely what the fuck.

[limpid pond]

Exactly my point. Game is gonna flop

[fervent rose]

muzzle FLASH

[slender isle]

Clearly it's in your vision if it's visual clutter 😉

[fervent rose]

aint it dog

[limpid pond]

I'll have bragging rights

[stiff pollen]

remember visual clutter was a part of battleborns vision

[idle lion]

i just destroyed 141 projectiles with the aps

[eager spire]

like nah mate why the fuck would you intentionally have shit that makes things difficult to see in an FPS game

[slender isle]

No clue. But again, it's their game

[stiff pollen]

someone else said this best: "i feel like the finals was embark showing they could do better destruction than battlefield on an engine that wasnt frostbite and thats really it"

[fervent rose]

i love crossplay games where i cant see and aim assist ignores all that visual clutter 👍

[slender isle]

I mean, stupid take

[eager spire]

why is that a stupid take

[acoustic seal]

if it's their game, then i'm just not gonna play it /shrug

[slender isle]

EA could do the same in a tech demo too

[eager spire]

that seems fairly reasonable considering the circumstances

[stiff pollen]

becuase he disagrees withg it

were in a battlefield server

[slender isle]

you mean, a game with 12 players has more particles, physics, and assets than a game with 128p 😱

Don't forget about vehicles and AI lmao

[fervent rose]

the question that isnt really answered yet is if the destruction is a genuinely good and enjoyable thing, or if its a dumb gimmick that really just makes for shitty maps

[eager spire]

and doesn't have much else to show for it besides that? and the gameplay is mediocre?

[fervent rose]

and so far the mode looks like a fucking snooze

[slender isle]

That bit is up to personal preference

[eager spire]

To be honest, the destruction does seem very gimmicky, and it can lead to very annoying circumstances?

[copper fulcrum]

The Finals really only seems fun because of the destruction ngl

[slender isle]

Valperaso moment

[acoustic seal]

it's alright, there are way too many other things wrong with the game to come to a serious conclusion though

[eager spire]

I don't think the destruction helps. I like the map design, but i don't think the ability to blow up everything helps.

[copper fulcrum]

The small player count and mediocre gameplay in the Finals really pushes me away

[eager spire]

I don't think you'd want a larger player count in this game.

[slender isle]

Blame the small player count on the destruction. Just like how people blame the large player count on 2042 destruction

God imagine the server lag with 32p in the finals

[fervent rose]

the finals has me excited for their next game if they do a more normal team fps concept

but im not excited for the finals

[limpid pond]

Thank you further proves my point

[slender isle]

Honestly I'd be down for a 6v6 capture the flag mode

[eager spire]

plus, you have to consider that destruction and player movement are server sided. If the server has issues, then everyone's getting hit with issues.

[copper fulcrum]

Maybe it's called The Finals because it's the last game they're gonna make

I better be the first person to say that

[limpid pond]

Hopefully

There's very few games that make it big nowadays

[eager spire]

and i've heard of situations that actually cause the servers to lag mid-game, like the crates that spawn a bunch of the foam barricades

[slender isle]

We'll have to wait for the open beta to see how the servers stack up

[eager spire]

i mean there are issues with this closed beta.

i am not exactly hopeful.

[fervent rose]

also if the general performance isnt gonna be better, yikes

[slender isle]

I know, and they can probably be fixed

[eager spire]

if this game wants to live it will have to be.

that's not an option.

[acoustic seal]

directx12 moment

[copper fulcrum]

Performance issues in a state where the game isn't finished? Color me surprised

[slender isle]

100% will be fixed. They already spoke about the desync and server issues in their discord I belive

[slender isle]

2042 mindset 🙂

[eager spire]

not in any detail.

[acoustic seal]

this isn't garden variety performance issues, this is "$3000 computers are struggling on low" performance issues

[fervent rose]

i hope it isnt "the laggy destruction game" but it looks like that so far

[next gulch]

2042 always run perfectly fine because I have an ALIENWARE with RGB and my gamer chair helped

[copper fulcrum]

The LED Lights gives 1fps for each light

[next gulch]

Alienware logo fixes all stuttering

[slender isle]

Well it has an optimization issue where low has the same fps as high

[copper fulcrum]

Oh yeah at a LAN party some time ago someone did bring an Alienware desktop and Holy Shit was it the loudest one of them all

[eager spire]

RTX is forced to be on if your GPU supports it, there doesn't seem to be a way to disable it.

[copper fulcrum]

That's definitely going to be fixed

[next gulch]

It was the loudest because it was the most POWERFUL PC there amirite

[acoustic seal]

there's also forced resolution scaling which is... strange

[next gulch]

and NOT just because it had zero airflow

[copper fulcrum]

We had 12 computers in one room, and you can hear the Alienware when no one was talking lol

[stiff pollen]

i have a 13700k and a 3080 and im on ultra and getting 110 or so fps at 1440p on the finals. biggest issue imo is the game is clunky af

[eager spire]

yeah. I think someone else said that they moved to UE5 inbetween the alpha and closed beta, and it certainly seems like they just moved to UE5

[acoustic seal]

very weird, very icky things going on in the settings panel give me very little hope of future improvements

[slender isle]

I've heard movement is a lil meh as is the gunplay

[eager spire]

Movement is a bit eh, mostly because it is server side.

[stiff pollen]

movement on the heavy sucks but hes the best class

cause rpg can one shot 2/3 classes

[slender isle]

UNtil you get 1 hit by an invisible light class

😈

[eager spire]

Like, I get what they're trying to do with making the movement and destruction server side. but I don't think the servers can handle it.

[stiff pollen]

if the game has tdm at launch ill play it

[slender isle]

That's what I said lmao

[eager spire]

they haven't talked about other modes.

[stiff pollen]

figures

classic dice

[eager spire]

literally 0 mention

[copper fulcrum]

Also not a fan of the art-style tbh

[slender isle]

I mean there will obviously be more modes and weapons

[slender isle]

what? Stylised realism?

[eager spire]

I don't mind the art style. It's one of the few things i like about it.

[fervent rose]

i like the destruction stuff. the 3v3v3v3 with team fortress 2 style classes is weird to me

[slender isle]

It's like mirrors edge with bad movment

[stiff pollen]

[limpid pond]

Mirrors edge flopped too

[copper fulcrum]

So, you mean, not Mirror's Edge

[slender isle]

Best game DICE have ever made

[eager spire]

Mirror's Edge was good, put respect on it's name.

[stiff pollen]

catalyst flopped

mirrors edge did well

[slender isle]

Well it's colourful and realistic, but slightly clunky

[limpid pond]

Don't people swear by bf4 for that one?

[slender isle]

like a beta mirrors edge

[acoustic seal]

the player models remind me of loadout if they weren't joking and actually made them look like that on purpose

[eager spire]

i don't know what you mean

[copper fulcrum]

Squid Game FPS

[slender isle]

BF4 was ass and full of clutter. Half the guns are copies of each other, half the maps suck, and launch has honestly been the worst one technically

[copper fulcrum]

minus the realism

[fervent rose]

theres something very off about the finals player models

wack looking

[eager spire]

I guess it's just not something i ever notice.

[slender isle]

The panda outfit ☺️

[limpid pond]

Well to be honest medal of honor had to have been the best

Strictly based off the campaign

[slender isle]

Mirrors edge 1

[limpid pond]

Mp was decent

[slender isle]

best game

trust me

[limpid pond]

Nope

[copper fulcrum]

Give us a new Medal of Honor, EA.

[limpid pond]

New medal of honor would be top tier

[eager spire]

MoH 2010 MP was basically reskinned Bad Company 2 and you can't change my mind about that

[limpid pond]

The newest one was amazing

[slender isle]

It'd be compared to COD and be canned

[copper fulcrum]

Because it basically was

[limpid pond]

100% it was pretty good too

[eager spire]

eh

[fervent rose]

except without any of the cool bc2 stuff yes

[slender isle]

MoH would die out in todays gaming market

[limpid pond]

Yeah that's why they gotta stick with the old formula

[copper fulcrum]

idgaf

[limpid pond]

And hopefully not go the insurgency sandstorm route

[slender isle]

tf you mean, it was a 6v6 3 corridor MP

[copper fulcrum]

Yeah we don't have campaigns like they used to

[fervent rose]

those 2 moh games were so bad

the dice la ones

[limpid pond]

Yeah but the movement and flow were different

[slender isle]

MoH warfighter had great customization for weaponry

[limpid pond]

Warfighter was good too

[copper fulcrum]

Every FPS campaign we have right now is "X characters fight Y characters because Z weapon or plan we actually don't know until they reveal"

[stiff pollen]

oh yeah one thing im loving about the finals

AUTO TURRETS

[eager spire]

eh

[slender isle]

The COD MW effect

[limpid pond]

We realistically just need titanfall 3

[copper fulcrum]

Vanguard, Cold War and MW are the same base plot

[eager spire]

this has been around since before MW

[slender isle]

Oh no, this guy is a terrorist and will blow up a city, we must follow him, then kill his generals, then win

[limpid pond]

Haha classic

[slender isle]

Or maybe we don't win 😳

[fervent rose]

its funny to me how so many people keep mentioning something that will never happen @limpid pond

[limpid pond]

I said we need it. Not that we'll ever get it

[slender isle]

Apex legends 2 is more likely

[eager spire]

I'm still really annoyed at how MW19 was talked about before it came out

[copper fulcrum]

Strip the recent CoD Campaigns to just their plot and they're literally the same story

[limpid pond]

They canceled the new titanfall game anyways

Game was gonna be good too

[copper fulcrum]

IT'S GONNA CHANGE COD ENTIRELY BOYS

[fervent rose]

if it was gonna be good why did it get cancelled

[limpid pond]

Canceled it like a month ago I think

[slender isle]

Welcome to action movies lmao

[limpid pond]

People at ea getting let go

[eager spire]

"oh, it's a story about the effects of war on civilian populations", "oh there's no clear good or bad guys, it's all shades of grey morally"

[slender isle]

It's always good guys need to stop bad guys from doing bad things to people

[copper fulcrum]

PFFT

[limpid pond]

Same reason apex mobile and the new bf mobile game got canned

[eager spire]

"it's silly to get political about video games"

[eager spire]

you're laughing but those are actual statements

[slender isle]

Didn't people say this about Fallout lmao

[copper fulcrum]

BRO FALLOUT IS APOLITICAL

[fervent rose]

the bf mobile game looked massively mediocre, and i never understood the idea of putting apex on phone controls

[copper fulcrum]

IT'S A STORY ABOUT AMERICA BEING BADASSES AND COOL

Awwooga

Fuck Gamers man

[stable dirge]

What’s up boys

[limpid pond]

It's simple. Mobile games make more revenue than pc and console combined

That's why they wanted to go the mobile route

[slender isle]

"It's okay brother, do another jet hit, you'll feel better about how capitalism ruined the world"

[fervent rose]

but not if the game doesnt work for that control scheme

[eager spire]

yes, but the difference between people saying that about Fallout and the CoD MW19 devs is that Bethesda didn't say that shit before Fallout 3 came out

[fervent rose]

apex is not a phone game

[eager spire]

Infinity Ward did.

[limpid pond]

Doesn't matter. It made millions already

Mobile games generate more revenue

[copper fulcrum]

Remember when Sledgehammer said Vanguard was immersive? @eager spire

[limpid pond]

That's how it's been

[stiff pollen]

yeah the finals is super fun! i enjoy a... two man team of only heavys using rpg's and flamethrowers exclusively

[pastel loom]

screw that
not playing online mobile again until the ethernet cable gets popular in it https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/714165722430832680/1049299071736762398/main-qimg-b0831fdbe31cac9864b65ebbf0d83190.webp

[eager spire]

Vaguely. I didn't look at much promotional material for Vanguard because I wasn't that interested in it

[fervent rose]

both of the mobile games got canceled, its not just free money if they make bad products

[limpid pond]

They got canceled because of lack of money from products like 2042 not bringing it in. That'd why

[copper fulcrum]

Not everything that gets canceled automatically means the product is bad, just saying

[slender isle]

I still think a 6v6 gamemode would be better

[stiff pollen]

wont happen

[limpid pond]

They're gonna cancel a mobile game before they cancel a major title in their series

[stiff pollen]

until the games dead

[slender isle]

But the BF mobile game was finished

[fervent rose]

thats silly dude EA is flush with cash. fifa and apex are doing great

[limpid pond]

Okay guys give me one second

[slender isle]

It was canned cause it was ass

[fervent rose]

2042 does not matter in their big picture

i promise you

[stiff pollen]

flush with cash =/= spends money on stupid shit

[limpid pond]

According to EA, the game did not meet its expectations. Respawn Entertainment highlighted the lack of a high-quality stream of post-launch content support as the main reason behind the cancelation of Apex Legends Mobile, a game that had only been on the market for three months

I can sight more sources

[copper fulcrum]

Their sports games have always been their main sources of revenue, Madden and FIFA

[limpid pond]

Give me a few more seconds since you are all very educated on the subject

[fervent rose]

okay so they were making shitty updates to the game

[limpid pond]

https://www.sportskeeda.com/esports/why-ea-decided-shut-battlefield-mobile#:~:text=The primary reason was that,developers scrapped the game's release.

Hold on guys there's more since yall are very educated

[slender isle]

EA wouldn't go ahead and make a new a new Alice in Wonderlands game

[copper fulcrum]

High Quality Thumbnail

Looks like a YouTuber Thumbnail that gets 500 views

[limpid pond]

https://www.theverge.com/2023/2/1/23581941/ea-titanfall-legends-single-player-game-apex-cancels

[fervent rose]

pls no more articles with zero details

[limpid pond]

Hold on guys there's more since yall are very educated

[copper fulcrum]

Gamers want Titanfall Single-Player but it won't do well

[fervent rose]

none of these say anything

[slender isle]

You mean EA cancels games they think won't do good 😱

[copper fulcrum]

That goes for most game publishers really

[limpid pond]

https://www.smartprix.com/bytes/apex-legends-mobile-cancelled-battlefield-mobile-also-dropped-by-ea/

[limpid pond]

They say everything you haven't read a single thing

[fervent rose]

dread we are aware that it has been canceled none of these provide any clarity

[slender isle]

Have you ever thought that EA is just moving away from the mobile market like a good lil publisher

[copper fulcrum]

Hell, it's not even just game publishers, Movies are the same way

[limpid pond]

It does. It specifically shows and says the games are canceled due to lack of funds

You said they're rolling in cash

[fervent rose]

no they only vaguely mention quality concerns

[limpid pond]

So much for that

[slender isle]

RIP Spellbound. I really wanted to be a dragon flying wizard with a hoodie

[eager spire]

I heard that Apex Mobile got shut down because Tencent(Who were responsible for development and post-launch content for Apex Mobile), wanted a larger cut of revenue than what EA were willing to give them, so they just decided to can the whole thing.

[stiff pollen]

ea of them

[copper fulcrum]

btw remember when Microsoft bought Activision and then Phil Spencer ( I think ) said they're gonna make Raven Software actually do something instead of forcing them to be whipped by Infinity Ward?

[fervent rose]

EA in total is doing really well. those mobile teams were not

[limpid pond]

The issue is money

As I said

[fervent rose]

so they got canned

[stiff pollen]

the future of huge gaming revenue is mobile and ea screwed up big with apex and battlefield

[limpid pond]

It was also said that the new titanfall game got canceled because they are letting people go at ea

[lone wren]

probs too many projects getting made that causes one for another to get the funding and the other one just gets buried

[limpid pond]

Therefore aka no one working on the game

Canceled

As I said

Before very educated people said otherwise

[slender isle]

As if. I don't even touch my phone for games

[stiff pollen]

YOU dont

[slender isle]

As if I'm gonna play an FPS on there

[limpid pond]

The issue is people do

[stiff pollen]

asia... middle east... etc

[limpid pond]

Other people do

[copper fulcrum]

India

[slender isle]

I'd rather see EA push into the VR space

[copper fulcrum]

Medal of Honor: Above and Beyond

Star Wars That One Pilot Game I can't remember the actual name of

[fervent rose]

they did just make a moh vr game

[limpid pond]

This was from last year alone

[eager spire]

VR hardware would need to be more accessible and easier to run before they'd do that.

[slender isle]

Too bad it was mid

Need to use the PSVR2

[limpid pond]

Mobile gaming generates more revenue

[slender isle]

that's a beautiful headset

[copper fulcrum]

I mean, EA can probably make a Need for Speed in VR

[lone wren]

ads

[slender isle]

Just give VR support for the latest one and it's a W

[copper fulcrum]

Gran Turismo has VR

[fervent rose]

VR is wack right now, not enough of an install base for many devs to support big titles

[slender isle]

God imagine ubisoft make The Crew 3 with VR support

[limpid pond]

Huh?? Yeah but that's not factored in because other companies pay for those ads

This is consumer spent money

[copper fulcrum]

Fuck yeah, statistics baby

[remote plover]

First time playing today, this games pretty fun!
Kills are very satisfying

[limpid pond]

The divison 3 will never happen either

[copper fulcrum]

3 divided by 3 =

[limpid pond]

Most games are getting canned by ea due to lack of money

[limpid pond]

10

[copper fulcrum]

dam

[limpid pond]

Division 10 confirmed

[slender isle]

EA? NO MONEY?!?!?!

[fervent rose]

dam EA canceled Division Heartland an Ubisoft Original?

[slender isle]

I don't think you know how much EA earns just from their sports entries

[fervent rose]

i love that they call their games "an ubisoft original" that shit is funny

[limpid pond]

I know. Hard concept to learn. This is what happens when you put businessmen in charge of a product they don't use and only think about cash

[slender isle]

Plus, the new need for speed game is just a chefs kiss

[stiff pollen]

well thats just cause ubi is going under

[limpid pond]

Don't worry rainbow six seige 2 will save them

Troll btw

[slender isle]

It probably would

[stiff pollen]

ubi is banking on 4 assassins creeds to save them

im not even joking

[limpid pond]

Don't wanna hurt very educated people

[slender isle]

8

[limpid pond]

That won't save them

They gotta push more skins and a new r6

We all seen how extraction went

[copper fulcrum]

What about XDefiant?

[limpid pond]

Even though that game was fun

[remote plover]

Lol

[limpid pond]

Imo

[slender isle]

Was this the tomclancy not tomclancy game

[stiff pollen]

its officially not tom clancy anymore

[eager spire]

XDefiant seems to be going on

[copper fulcrum]

Tom Clancy hasn't been Tom Clancy in years

[eager spire]

I don't know what's going on with it, but i do know it still exists

[stiff pollen]

they got BTFO'd by the community for making the game a punk rock game with XD emoji in the title

[eager spire]

and is still being worked on

[slender isle]

Breakpoint is actually great now

[copper fulcrum]

Literally, because he's fuckin' dead and Ubisoft is dabbing with his skeleton

[stiff pollen]

i got invited to xdefiant last week

been getting ivnites for months

i just dont care to download 70 gigs

[fervent rose]

no recent ubisoft game is great

[slender isle]

Hold on hold on

The crew 2

[eager spire]

I know it has one of the former CoD devs working on it

[slender isle]

I rest my case

[remote plover]

embark (old dice guys) studios has two games coming

the finals

Arc riders

[stiff pollen]

arc raiders

[fervent rose]

damn thats one i cant contest i havent played that one

[eager spire]

yes we know

[rocky bear]

It's over saturated and sub par

[fervent rose]

is the crew 2 good? i didnt like the first one

[slender isle]

PFT

I just love driving, boating, and flying round america

[eager spire]

Mark Rubin, that's his name.

[slender isle]

Shit's fun

[rocky bear]

I had fun until I finished I think the gt line or something like that

[eager spire]

This is what he had to say regarding his work on xDefiant.

[rocky bear]

Then it was really grindy and not very enjoyable

[remote plover]

The finals looks like the destruction this game should have had

[slender isle]

DICE should make a split/second sequel cause I have no clue how made it

[eager spire]

eh

[slender isle]

Why I just drive around

Cross country trecks

[rocky bear]

If you like just driving around then it's a great game

[eager spire]

Split/Second was made by Black Rock Studio. I have bad news for you.

[rocky bear]

It's huge and quite beautiful

[remote plover]

Black rock 👀

[slender isle]

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

[eager spire]

And there were plans for a sequel.

[slender isle]

That is the best racing game to ever be a racing game

hands down

[warm stirrup]

Anyone feel the new weapons are op? Specifically the assault rifle?

[slender isle]

nothing beats it

[slender isle]

Yes but shush

don't tell the devsFun police

[warm stirrup]

[fervent rose]

its not launch bsvm broken

but it gud

[rocky bear]

Bsvm still brokey

[warm stirrup]

Ar has no recoil bruh

[slender isle]

EA should buy the property and make it

It's such a cool concept

[stiff pollen]

yes every gun has no recoil

cod has recoil and bf doesnt

crazy world

[eager spire]

they'd probably have to buy it from Disney

[slender isle]

DICE should make a BF game with mirrors edge movement

[stiff pollen]

disney would sell

[eager spire]

and I don't think Disney even remembers that they have it

[slender isle]

Good, cheap property

[eager spire]

Hell, Disney might not even own it.

I don't know.

[ebon pilot]

yes they should make battlefield titanfall crossover

[slender isle]

2142?!?!?!

[stiff pollen]

oh niiiice my entire team left

[ebon pilot]

that just has the titans

[stiff pollen]

yep this game will be dead in 3 weeks

tops

[ebon pilot]

not the movement

[rocky bear]

I would take that bet

[slender isle]

I mean, people would complain that a 2142 sequel with titans and movement would be "copying titanfall and advanced warfare"

Cause they're all idiots

[copper fulcrum]

I was saying it might be another Lawbreakers incident

[stiff pollen]

i dont have any sympathy for small team games that require you to have teammates and no fill

[fervent rose]

making an advanced movement battlefield would be major funny but i also dont want another Hardline situation

[slender isle]

I don't think the finals will be dead, but will probably half it's player count in a month, and stay at that for a few months till they drop a new map

[fervent rose]

the casual bf gamer does not want titanfall movement, that shit is clear

[rocky bear]

I could care less what they make as long as it isn't half baked

[slender isle]

I do

[fervent rose]

okay but they want to make money and people didnt buy titanfall 1 or 2

[slender isle]

Titanfall with 128p and full destruction = fun

[rocky bear]

Potential not casual?

[slender isle]

I mean... what does casual even mean you know?

I'm not a pro that's for sure

[rocky bear]

maybe you are an enthusiast

[slender isle]

Could be

[ebon pilot]

that's why you go all in on the titanfall style. make it like how Persona 5 Strikers is a Persona 5 x Dynasty Warriors crossover. Titanfall but big maps, big player counts, with conquest etc etc

Kinda like how Star Wars Battlefront is almost a Battlefield game except in name

[slender isle]

Seriously don't know why other studios aren't using the large player count capture zone

[copper fulcrum]

You can make the most unique thing and people will say it's copying a different game

[limpid pond]

That's anything

[copper fulcrum]

Yes that's my point.

[limpid pond]

More common in the tool world

[slender isle]

The Finals: a completely unique gameplay loop and art style = literally battlefield

[limpid pond]

Tools everyone compares to one or two others saying they just put both together

[copper fulcrum]

There are people actually saying that Hi-Fi Rush is Forspoken lol

[limpid pond]

Huh?

[copper fulcrum]

Aside from hit thing with thing that's where the comparisons end lol

[limpid pond]

Hi fi rush is it's own thing

Pretty good to

Too

[copper fulcrum]

Yeah that's the thing I'm saying, people will say anything is anything even if they're nothing alike

[limpid pond]

Oh yeah I agreed

[copper fulcrum]

Just to downplay it in any way they can

[slender isle]

Imagine people were saying stuff like this in the nighties. "Bro doom is literally just Wolfenstein 3D with demons wtf man"

[limpid pond]

I just said that's anything because any item people do that to is all

[copper fulcrum]

I mean, that was a thing

But they weren't mad about it

[slender isle]

Thank god

[copper fulcrum]

Because it was the same developer and Doom was an upgrade in about every field

[fervent rose]

doom is just wolfenstein 3d with demons wtf man this is cool

[copper fulcrum]

Yeah that's more like it

[stiff pollen]

yeah my final verdict is if the finals isnt dead within 2 months ill be shocked

[limpid pond]

Still waiting for a sick openwork titan mecha pilot game

Open world

[copper fulcrum]

That won't be AAA

Oh yeah not happening unless it's indie

[stiff pollen]

i cant see any game with infinite invisibility for a speedy flanker class being a good idea in 2023

[limpid pond]

Something like breakpoint but titanfall

Could be cool if they did it

[copper fulcrum]

Definitely gonna be an indie title

[fervent rose]

you might like the next Armored Core

not exactly titan sized mechs but still

[limpid pond]

I think it would be sick to just chall random areas with a titan then boom you can get out and swing around and kill foot soliders

[slender isle]

S6 2042 brings titans 😱

[limpid pond]

I hope not

Titans don't belong in this game

[slender isle]

Would be hype. Not one you can get into

just like the ranger

but bigger and with missiles

[fervent rose]

bruh what

[slender isle]

😈

[limpid pond]

That'd be rough but cool

[stiff pollen]

if they made 2143 id play the fuck outta it

[eager spire]

I think if they toned down the visual clutter as well as the visual recoil and nerfed the healing beam, as well as improve performance and stability across the board, The Finals could be a fine game.

[fervent rose]

if theres a mech i better be able to pilot it

[limpid pond]

Way to many balancing issues would come from that

That's why apex doesn't have mechs

To many balancing issues

[copper fulcrum]

Isn't the story of Apex like... a training program to be pilots?

[slender isle]

Maybe EOD bot style

[stiff pollen]

its a tournement held by a former pilot

[slender isle]

IMO that should be what Boris turret is

[ebon pilot]

No apex happens after the war

[copper fulcrum]

THEY'RE CALLED TITANS

(╯°□°)╯︵ ┻━┻

[stiff pollen]

which turns out its being ran by the literal underworld crime syndicate

[limpid pond]

I know what they're called but apex isn't titanfall and you can't tell me otherwise so mechs it is

[stiff pollen]

HOW DID I LOAD INTO AN INSTANT LOSS

[copper fulcrum]

I mean the Apex Predators were bad guys in Titanfall 2 so is that a real surprise?

[stiff pollen]

no no

i mean the literal cartel

[copper fulcrum]

Aperture Leggings

[stiff pollen]

the aussie dude is just the face

[limpid pond]

Austin dude??

[stiff pollen]

blisk?

idfk

[limpid pond]

Aussie*

Yes blisk

You mfer

[copper fulcrum]

A guy who lives in Austin Texas

[limpid pond]

Better say his name

[slender isle]

Okay so wish list: Boris is allowed to look through the eyes of his turret and shoot with it like that manually

[copper fulcrum]

Stone Cold Steve Austin

[limpid pond]

Nope terrible idea

To many campers at that point might as well create a trench style map

[stiff pollen]

idea: scrap boris entire kit and revamp

[limpid pond]

Just two teaches and the only playable character is boris because that's what will happen

Scrap speclaists

In my opinion bo3 has been one of the only games to do it right

[fervent rose]

automated turrets are terrible

[limpid pond]

100%

[fervent rose]

rework boris or leave him shit

[limpid pond]

Terrible idea shouldn't even be talked about

Boris should just be removed all together

[slender isle]

I mean his turret does 0 damage

would be a cool idea

[limpid pond]

But it use to do way more

And it does 0 damage cause it can't hit you

[fervent rose]

i dont need prone boris players controlling turrets

[limpid pond]

Now have someone control it boom different story

Exactly

Like I said might as well make a trench map

[fervent rose]

i need players moving around because thats fun

[limpid pond]

I agree

Bf5 campers were annoying enough

Don't need an entire team to camp next

[slender isle]

Well let me hold a button on his turret that let's me do stuff with it idk

[limpid pond]

No just remove boris

He's literally a camping operator

There's no legit point in boris. You never see boris players actually contributing like ever

I don't even remember ever seeing a boris player in top 3

[fervent rose]

i think making the turret anti vehicle is definitely the right angle but it is pretty useless still

[limpid pond]

It's only use is being conveniently placed when you're one shot

Or randomly registering you from 200 feet away tryna flank

[slender isle]

I am the one

[slender isle]

Double it's damage against vehicles

[limpid pond]

Gotta show proof

[limpid pond]

What's your ign

[slender isle]

Proof in your Pms

[slender isle]

Same as my thing Discord

[limpid pond]

I see that but I meant like top 3 as in like for contribution

[slender isle]

Ohhh idk wtf that means

[limpid pond]

I can play boris not use his torrent and get top 3 too

Like you get shown at the end of the game

[slender isle]

I mean his turret actually does nothing

[limpid pond]

I almost always get most kills or revives

[slender isle]

Don't even think it has a category at the end

[fervent rose]

if they buff it too much it will make all vehicle play frustrating too, its hard to make him useful without making it way too op if half the team were to spam it

[slender isle]

So... double his damage, half the health (against vehicles)

[limpid pond]

I'm talking for like most kills, revives, objectives captured, assist

[fervent rose]

it would be really nice if Boris turrets did extra damage to hind/condor at least

[slender isle]

Maybe make it so it locks onto air vehicles only, but does a ton of tickle damage

Like thing 50cal damage

[limpid pond]

Bruh you got like 600 kills as boris

[slender isle]

not ntw

[limpid pond]

He's literally useless

[slender isle]

Yeah I just started using him

[limpid pond]

That's why I said remove him

[slender isle]

don't diss the big boy

[limpid pond]

No point in him being in the game

I am gonna dis him. He's trash

[slender isle]

He's my lil storm trooper

[limpid pond]

That's why 80% of boris players prone next to their turrent

[slender isle]

That's to get the additional range and accuracy from his turret

[sour steeple]

Just noticed ww3 will finally introduce revive mechanic in one of its upcoming Updates. For their remaining 3 Players

[slender isle]

YOOO

BF KILLER?!?!?!?

[limpid pond]

Which still does nothing except be annoying. Simple. Remove him

[sour steeple]

It did suicide

[eager spire]

i donno why they haven't given up on that thing.

[fervent rose]

battlebit dead, battlefield dead

ww3 time

[slender isle]

Battlebit isn't even out yet. Literally dead on arrival

Probably will be in OCE actually

[sour steeple]

Battlebit had a good start but it has too much milsim crap. So another game to die

[slender isle]

Unless a few of the squad guys hop over

[next onyx]

Battlebit isn't even anything special.

It's its own game.

[limpid pond]

Average boris player when they're forced to move

[next onyx]

People just call it the battlefield killer because haha big maps and playercount.

[slender isle]

It's got really crappy ttk and gunplay from what I tried

[sturdy socket]

lmao redditors

[next onyx]

The TTK isn't horrible considering what it's set out to be.

Not my kind of game.

[sturdy socket]

"transport is too tanky so we need to buff anti air"

the fuck kind of logic

[next onyx]

But I won't deny I had fun on it.

[mortal stratus]

It has much more than just that

[fervent rose]

i think it has potential as its own game. but its no battlefield killer

[limpid pond]

Never even heard of battle bit

[next onyx]

After my playtime on it all I just see it having are the maps and playercount yet the gameplay is completely different.

[slender isle]

Set out to be a arcade milsim. The gunplay is like COD 4, but you die to 1 headshot or 2 body shots

[arctic grove]

Holy hell dude please don’t tell me they’re serious

I know transports are cursed but at this point we’re on the road to attack helis dying in 1 rocket lol

[limpid pond]

I've heard of project zomboid which is sad cause that games probably smaller than it

[slender isle]

Transport just needs no explosive passenger seats

fixed

[sour steeple]

Movement is good. Gunplay fine. Ttk fast. Heals and revivs extremly slow.. bleeding sucks and slows the gameplay Down. Buildings having to many Windows and Storys. You have literally to look out for 100000 corners before moving

[rocky bear]

literally just get rid of the main gunner seat

boom fixed

[slender isle]

So a worse squad basically

[slender isle]

Replace it with 2 standard passenger seats

[limpid pond]

Yeah but squad makes sense

[rocky bear]

or just throw another 7.62 on it if it's such a big deal

[arctic grove]

Battlebit only got compared to BF for its destruction, vehicles and player count
Besides that, mechanics and gameplay function way differently. It’s literally meant to be an easier to run Squad from what I heard lol

[sour steeple]

A Mixtur of squad and bf

[limpid pond]

It's a milsim relastic shooter

[fervent rose]

its squad lite, with some more gamer movement

[rocky bear]

literally anything would work lol

[slender isle]

Squad lite with Cod gunplay

[limpid pond]

Squad is a good game

[rocky bear]

they could change it to a drop seat

[next onyx]

Don't think battle bit has destruction at all.

[limpid pond]

Especially galactic contention

[next onyx]

Not that I noticed anyways.

[limpid pond]

Galactic contention top tier

[next onyx]

But hey. At least the mouse input was decent lol.

[limpid pond]

Better than squad

[sour steeple]

Ye if u want decent milsim game. Go squad. You want casual sandbox go bf. In between games are mostly dead

[robust vapor]

2042

we have

[limpid pond]

Best milsim is galactic contain

[robust vapor]

subsonic, high power, standard, close combat and armor piercing rounds

[limpid pond]

Contention

[slender isle]

2042 has portal so like, you can make a milsim lite in that

[limpid pond]

Top tier

[next onyx]

Battlebit was made because the guy who made it couldn't run squad.

[robust vapor]

where's explosive rounds?

[slender isle]

frag rounds are in portal on the shotguns

I think

[robust vapor]

hecc even gta online has explosive rounds for a sniper

[fervent rose]

explosive crossbow bolt

[robust vapor]

[sour steeple]

Ww3 map Flow is aweful. There are no hotzones. And you cant spawn on flags which are under attack. So you have to spawn further away.. which makes the game a running sim. And less fighting. Ww3 is such a sleeper experience

[slender isle]

Should have incindiery rounds and frag rounds for shotguns

just not the 12m

[robust vapor]

crossbow bolt is cool and all

[slender isle]

That's what I've heard about battlebit too

[sour steeple]

Yes

Absolut dumb decision

[fervent rose]

the classic conquest experience, but worse lmao

[sour steeple]

You spend most time running in these games.

[slender isle]

"Okay bro, we have 3 flags, now, the map is 10km^2, and we have 256players... where do we spawn them?"

I still don't understand the 2042 running sim stuff

it's not bad

There's enough vehicles in the world and the call in

[sour steeple]

2042 is not that bad in terms of spawn on flags.

[fervent rose]

the distances are definitely larger in this game

[slender isle]

Yeah but that's due to the double player count

[fervent rose]

the barren area you have to cross to get to the next area

[eager spire]

I don't really like how people talk about Battlebit and try to sell it to Battlefield players as if it's a comparable game

[next onyx]

They overdid the maps and they turned out shit.

[eager spire]

cause it's not really, it's more like Squad. The average BF player ain't gonna be into this.

[slender isle]

At least the maps are good now

not one bad map (renewal doesn't count)

[next onyx]

No excuse for them to be shit from the get go.

[fervent rose]

discarded looks barely changed

and we havent seen hourglass

[slender isle]

I like discarded anyways