#battlefield-2042

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thick shadow
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Dawg

hexed reef
spiral folio
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Departments within but still main mods with overreaching control

thick shadow
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They better make one of those pick up vehicles have wings

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Would also love to drive a couch again

spiral folio
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They could make like a UCAV drone as a vehicle and oh no you cant bail out

hexed reef
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we need a vehicle transport transport vehicle

spiral folio
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Like that mini-helicopter attack drone

thick shadow
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Quad bikes are in 2042,right?

spiral folio
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They exist

hexed reef
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Yis

thick shadow
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I barely play with transport vehicles

spiral folio
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Think its mode specific like the trucks or e-bikes

thick shadow
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So kinda forgot about them

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Bro imagine you can stick c5 to dozers shield and commit a act of terrorism

arctic grove
next onyx
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Yeah maybe just me but the RM68 takes a lot of time to adjust to.

quaint vector
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Imagine you can stick C5 on Ranger and send him to destroy Tanks... keanu

next onyx
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There's something off about it.

quaint vector
next onyx
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Reload is not the worst.

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But more like firing down range.

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I got the 6KU on because the default suppressor messes with ranged performance.

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The fusion holo isn't good on it because of how fat the dot is.

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So the K8 works the best at the moment.

quaint vector
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I'm using holo

quaint vector
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It's fine

copper ice
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Its got poo damage

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and rof

thick shadow
copper ice
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its accurate but it really does have awful damage drop

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wait

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i got the guns mixed up

thick shadow
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Is there no option to customise the dots on optics

copper ice
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Nope

thick shadow
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Yikes

sour steeple
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What? Its literally best ar to use.
Short barrel on it. Blue Laser. 30rnd Standard mag and you have a more accurate faster killing sfar

thick shadow
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Guess I'll have to use permanent markers on my screen then

copper ice
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Yeah i cocked that up

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Thought it was the lmg

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for assault rifles it cleans house

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but my beloved UBGL....

white ginkgo
thick shadow
white ginkgo
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yes bro mine has one

drowsy shuttle
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Rm68 is the best weapon in the game. Yesterday i did my first match after unlocked it, with default atachments... dropped an 85 bomb on renewal Breakthrough. Its the BSV all over again.

white ginkgo
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no delay from dog ass hudsight n shit

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literal NATIVE ON MONITOR

thick shadow
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Wtf yo can I have a picture???

white ginkgo
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yes one sec

copper ice
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bsv is still fucked

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most decent monitors offer a crosshair in the settings now

sour steeple
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Def expect some Kind of a nerf to the new ar

drowsy shuttle
white ginkgo
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i had it within an hour lmfao

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not gonna cap

sour steeple
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Up close fights surely pain due to 4btk and fast rpm

white ginkgo
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i did buy the 2,400 pack tho

drowsy shuttle
white ginkgo
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initially i bought the one that auto unlocks 20 tiers yes but after that the weekly challenges put me right up to it and had to play one or 2 games without challenges to get it

sour steeple
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Weekly not gonna give u 20lvls especially +2 matches unless These 2 matches are portal boosting servers WideAngel1

white ginkgo
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maybe ur just dog ass and dont get high xp games?

drowsy shuttle
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Fair enough, its your money. Either way the big majority of the player base dont buy battlepass tiers. I've only saw an handfull of players using the rm68 so far

white ginkgo
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the 2,400 edition literally comes with it i didnt go out my way to buy the tiers lmfao

sour steeple
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There is no shame in just saying you paid

white ginkgo
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^ type of dude to not res anyone and wonder why he didnt get top 10

sour steeple
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If u wanted the reward earlier just tell the truth

drowsy shuttle
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What is the 2400 edition?

white ginkgo
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smoothbrain the battlepass version

sour steeple
white ginkgo
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and trying to disprove that i have any skill shows your lack of skill you seem to think its impossible]

wide shore
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Pretty sure there’s 2 XP boosts in the first 20 tiers. Or maybe it’s 1 idk. But if dude got 20 tiers, did all the weeklies (which would give about 5 tiers) he’d still need 150 points. Which, given that it’s probably like 1/2K per point on top of a XP boost. It’s possible.

thick shadow
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Ur both losers shut up

I ate bing chilling by biting itt without flinching

sour steeple
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Most of the time mvp tho. 🤷‍♂️ still couldnt do 20 bp lvls in 2 matches without boosting and only 1 weekly. Think_Eyes

white ginkgo
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changed that answer right up KeK

drowsy shuttle
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Seems odd to me aswell... but cant say for sure

white ginkgo
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straight up yall r hating

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nothing else to it

next onyx
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Oh that's right I think there's the other premium premium pass where you get 20 tiers instantly I think?

wide shore
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Technically he’s only be getting 15 levels. Since the weeklies count for about 5

drowsy shuttle
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No im not lol i dont care the way you got the weapon lol

sour steeple
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No hatin. Simple asking how 20lvls in 2 rounds.

white ginkgo
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uS_HitMan — Today at 8:53 AM
Sure bud. More cap pls
There is no shame in just saying you paid

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thats hate lmfao

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anyways toodles

sour steeple
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Well you started being toxic

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Calling me "trash"

wide shore
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I did some boosting. Idc. I paid for the battlepass. I want the guns

brittle flame
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Fuck I paid who tf cares 😂

white ginkgo
sour steeple
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So its no shame in saying that you wanted reward earlier by speeding things up

drowsy shuttle
white ginkgo
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ok u got me there

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u right

brittle flame
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I say we settle this in the #stats . Let the best man win 😂

wide shore
copper ice
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yeah man when i watch people put their money into a trash can it's super chill

drowsy shuttle
cosmic storm
copper ice
wide shore
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Nah I just sat in a few of those xp servers

copper ice
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I did all of them in one go and it only puts you up like 13 levels

wide shore
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Yeah there’s no way he got every weekly done in one game or somethin

drowsy shuttle
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I never go to xp portal servers and never go to solo matches to unlock attachments or get to tier 3 easier. But thats me

wide shore
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Completing weeklies on top of the XP points with an XP boost active. You’re gonna level up hella fast.

copper ice
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I do solo matches for some attachments/vehicles because the kill counts are ridiculous

wide shore
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Especially if you’ve already blown through the first 20 levels and you haven’t activated any xp counters yet.

copper ice
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I don't want to bring my team down because my vehicle doesn't even have access to a repair

grand gulch
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I use playclaw

wide shore
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If there’s a gun or vehicle I know gets better with attachments that cost like 300 kills, then I’m not gonna suffer using a shitty gun 300 kills till I can make it good

drowsy shuttle
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I like to unlock or get to tier 1 stuff by playing normal regular matches.. otherwise is too boring for me... even if its hard and takes more time in normal AoW. Its a way to keep me motivated to play the game

final marten
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I love looking at someone in the eye only to still get executed

wide shore
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Still gotta T1 outside of solo anyway.

sour steeple
drowsy shuttle
wide shore
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I will if a gun is good out of the gate

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But some aren’t

drowsy shuttle
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Its the player that makes the gun good and not the gun that makes the player good CursedCat

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Im just picking on you

grand gulch
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so whats the final word on uniform soldier aiming

drowsy shuttle
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Yes i know sone weapons can be a pain until some attachments (usually the magazines) but still.. i like the challenge.. even if its gonna make you die a bit more

quaint vector
pastel loom
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I still don't know what that is

drowsy shuttle
placid echo
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It attempts to make sensitivities for different zooms feel the same

quaint vector
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Makes your sensitivity (while zooming) like you have it without zooming into the optic

harsh jetty
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hello guys

grand gulch
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yeah but 133 or 178

harsh jetty
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What time we will be able to get BF2042 for PS Plus?

quaint vector
quaint vector
pastel loom
harsh jetty
drowsy shuttle
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Fresh meat incoming

wide shore
harsh jetty
drowsy shuttle
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Imma tier 1 the rm68 in 1 day lol

next onyx
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Oh yeah 6KU Rm68 is the way to go.

quaint vector
next onyx
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Rm was the easiest gun out of the entire lot to do.

harsh jetty
next onyx
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But that's because I could use it like an ACTUAL gun.

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And the biggest issue I was running into were the network issues.

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Ironically.

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Yusss Attack on spearhead I fucking love spearhead.

wide shore
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I’m still like 3 tiers away

next onyx
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I just wish server browser was mixed in with AOW cause I would try my best to host a 128p 24/7 Spearhead server.

drowsy shuttle
quaint vector
wide shore
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Oh wait. New weeklies today

next onyx
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Spearhead is unironically the best map in the game.

wide shore
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I forgot

next onyx
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Yeah the suppressor is nice and all but I prefer to keep its accuracy.

spiral folio
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Exposure BT was good before they redrew the sectors

harsh jetty
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It has been released?

spiral folio
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Now its awful

next onyx
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Best way to run it.

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Stubby grip can also work cause its hipfire is good.

wide shore
next onyx
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Allo Bulletin!

spiral folio
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It was good before they changed the sectors

limber raft
spiral folio
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The last sector is 100% ass

harsh jetty
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No kidding its says still Destiny and Mafia

drowsy shuttle
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To be fair the RM68 is so good that even with the vanilla attchaments is still wildly amazing

spiral folio
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Strategically speaking its also like the single worst idea. You're advancing on an enemy installation you would neeever enter the canyon

limber raft
quaint vector
harsh jetty
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Region 1

harsh jetty
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Still same

spiral folio
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Pretty sure there's a verse of suntzu thats like
"Wtf dont go into a canyon! Are you stupid?"

quaint vector
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Cuz we can't do anything about it

harsh jetty
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I am dying to play it 😅

lucid ingot
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I just cant get into this game yo. I try so hard. But these short ass matches are a waste of time

low timber
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Lol, a teammate listed few teammates kills/deaths and started killing the team a noob team while they had 0 objective score LULW

harsh jetty
spiral folio
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Take a drink

lucid ingot
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Its like, they spent all this time fixing and getting the game to a nice playable state. Then they limit your play time with these 15 minute matches lol

lucid ingot
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Dunno

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Maybe the matches i keep getting into just have noobs or something

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Or has a stacked squad

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Because its always over super fast. And i dont even get any decent playtime

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😦

spiral folio
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Matches are random, sometime you get a bad one. Ive noticed fewer just routes at least since it re-matches you each game. Its tedious but i guess it works

lucid goblet
spiral folio
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It will instead be given emp and staggering effects that throw people to the ground and blind everyone also

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Also it will switch which weapon/gadget youre holding

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And reverse your controls

next onyx
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THANK FUCK.

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HOLY SHIT.

remote kiln
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this is a travesty why did people tell DICE

drowsy shuttle
spiral folio
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A dev might have actually played the game once. Tried it a couple times.

spiral folio
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Maybe thats what battlefield Fridays are. At dice the boss has them play their own game for once.

drowsy shuttle
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Well while we are at it, dice. Nerf the radious of the frag granade aswell. That shit hits you miles away

spiral folio
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Listen to what people are saying and using

copper ice
drowsy shuttle
drowsy shuttle
next onyx
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No way I survived lol. Two people rushed at me and one didn't even see me.

spiral folio
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Hotfixing a balance change does kind of indicate an urgency/brokenness

next onyx
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I'm having way too much fun with this thing.

drowsy shuttle
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What thing?

next onyx
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Rm277.

hexed mango
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new ar

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they nerfed the sph and i’m sad

drowsy shuttle
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Ah yeah

next onyx
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That's so cool. The fact they're showing off his prosthetics.

drowsy shuttle
hexed mango
robust vapor
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Man skipped leg day

next onyx
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Won't like he kind of looks like a cybernetic tusken ranger now.

robust vapor
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💀

quaint vector
robust vapor
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Maybe your enemies will start hearing metal footsteps

next onyx
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I got to play with Alex and Vanta a few weeks ago, Even though I was on 300 ping and couldn't do anything it was fun meming around.

hexed mango
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i know i was mad i didn’t get to join you three

next onyx
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Would of loved to have you on board. I don't mean to rub it in.

drowsy shuttle
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Btw the best thing about the rm68 is the sound.. its sexy af.. is by far the best sound of any weapon in the game

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With or without supressor

hexed reef
quaint vector
hexed reef
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damn bro

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im gonna get to s 999

spiral folio
sour steeple
spiral folio
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Clearly they must almost never play if they still think the hind is balanced

patent prism
spiral folio
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Probably

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Too blinded by their work requirement for a high winrate

patent prism
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Something like that

next onyx
spiral folio
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If you give the enemy a tank it should ban you for an hour

Caps lock approved

astral sequoia
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Does anyone know if you get 1000 bfc for unlocking zain?

patent prism
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no.

astral sequoia
spiral folio
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Like last crewmember exits a tank. Enemy jumps in
Immediate hour ban
[You have been banned for exiting a tank in battle]

astral sequoia
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But saw on forums people not get them for previous characters

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Like s1 and s2 retroactive

spiral folio
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Driver exiting banned immetiately anyway

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Gon leeeern taday

patent prism
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(At least if memory serves it's 1000 BFC to get premium battlepass)

astral sequoia
cosmic storm
copper ice
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too bad they refuse to nerf the fucking FLARES

cosmic sequoia
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We need more attack helicopters and tanks on maps

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Super hind needs a big nerf

copper ice
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only more vehicles if you buff the anti vehicle tools to match

spiral folio
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No just stop bad people from using them

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It was peak during like the trial period. I stole landed condors even

hexed dew
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Anyone here on ps?

spiral folio
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Just losing a vehicles use is generally devastating. I had once i de-piloted a hind on top of a box on spearhead. So they couldnt spawn another and their advance halted

cosmic storm
spiral folio
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Having one de-piloted and stolen is twice as bad because now its even working against you

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But then having some moron give one to the enemy out of ignorance or worse willing sabotage

copper ice
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it wouldn't be as much of an issue if killing vehicles was easier

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but its a nightmare

spiral folio
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There's that. Once you capture a hind. Yours for life

copper ice
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so losing one is devastating because they just keep it indefinitely

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i nabbed a hind from attack on BT the other day and got two repairbots immediately

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i stopped avoiding rockets because they just outrepaired everything

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it was fucking ridiculous

spiral folio
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And with the lis nerf you barely have to try

copper ice
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had like 3/4 dudes firing m5 at me

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almost nothing

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They ran out and my repairbots and 40mm nade launcher didnt lol

spiral folio
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If they even took the hind down by like 25% hp itd be a huge change

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So many just linger and eat shots and "welp time ta go" and repair

tidal trail
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Vehicles just have too much health in general much harder to take a vehicle out by yourself

spiral folio
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The fact the hind can be an absolute battle decider is absurd because if you kill it youve probably spent the whole battle hunting it exclusively and you wont get points for 80% of your work

copper ice
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thats my biggest beef with it

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the reward is absolutely minimal

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hitting it with a rocket is like 20xp

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if it pops flares you get nothing

spiral folio
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Like if you track how many shots and rockets you spend to take out a hind for 1 to maybe 5 kills. We're talking like dozens of shots and rockets eaxh of which could be kills

tidal trail
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The transport heli should just be like it was in bad company 2, it shouldn't be a flying tank

spiral folio
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People would hunt em more if the scoreboard was xp based not this moronic points bs

grave prism
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WTF why all my button bindings reset to default

copper ice
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they fucked up by making the game 128p with no classes at the beginning because the launchers are "balanced" for that

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6.5 second reload because anyone could have one

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now its limited to 2 of the worst specialists in the game

grave prism
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not even bothering to play this until they bug it out and turn crossplay off again fk it

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shit game

copper ice
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crank that reload the fuck down

spiral folio
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Like you can shoot a hinnd 20 times and get 20xp each time. Then finally somebody else kills it and you get like 1-5 assists... m

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Yay

copper ice
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🥹

spiral folio
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Like i go waaay out of my way to hunt these things. And like yesterday had some brat bitch about my scoreboard placement... ok kid ive killed 5 helicopters? Eat poison?

tidal trail
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The reload thing is too accurate. By time you reload, the tank recovers some of its health

copper ice
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The repair on the tank is like a 15 second reload

spiral folio
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A ton of the team play problems stem from the fact morons only do something if they get recognition for it

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And the scoreboard is the biggest one

copper ice
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by the time you've rocketed it twice it's used a repair and regened one

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No reload should ever take that long

spiral folio
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Yea and then add on top of that. The offensive capability even for altruists that just want to take a vehicle out are nil

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They changed the rail now to do 0 to armor like . ..ok. what did you give in exchange... oh you nerfed lis more? Wat

copper ice
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I tried all the primary weapons

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They're useless against vehicles

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40mm AP is the only thing on a primary weapon that vaguely damages them

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Even the fucking 40mm HE does more vehicle damage than any weapon

spiral folio
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Yea like i mean really even 20mm wont do crap to a tank. But it also doesnt do much to unarmored stuff either in BF. Theres videos of stingers bombarding modern tanks and theh just absorb it

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But like there's gotta be some way to stop em

copper ice
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For game purposes we need something

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I should not be firing an UBGL at a helicopter LOL

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I have the most heli kills with the 40mm AP though

spiral folio
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And then when we have stuff like tracers and locking or guided missiles.

They add jammers and APS

copper ice
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Because the actual AA methods just don't work

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Yeah the last fucking thing we needed with current vehicle camp meta is a jammer

spiral folio
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Now you can have a jammer and aps by a tank and it can just sit there unless another tank can aim on it

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And you can argue how useful a tank is sniping. But it doesnt need this level of encouragement

copper ice
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it shouldnt be this useful tbh

robust vapor
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hehe railgun tank go BOOOOOM

copper ice
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the issue with it is that the tanks are genuinely underpowered in some ways

spiral folio
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Whether or not its even good for it to snipe. It shouldn't be basically unstoppable

copper ice
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the coaxial machine gun sucks ass

cosmic storm
copper ice
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and the railgun tank is fucking dogshit against infantry

robust vapor
copper ice
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but then it's horrendously over the top vs vehicles

robust vapor
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cause I sniped someone nearly 1 kilometres away

copper ice
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its shitty balancing all over

spiral folio
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Yea rail tank is basically a vehicle hunter only

copper ice
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which means all it ever does is sit on a hill and wait for vehicles

robust vapor
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gotta scout the area before moving on to objectives you know

copper ice
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The normal tank has better aoe but the coaxial gun still sucks ass

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And c5 kills tanks FAST

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so they just never push

robust vapor
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c5s and the jeep

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jihad jeep

copper ice
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but then all the infantry launchers are dogshit against vehicles, so your only consistent method of killing them is c5 rushing

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which is awful gameplay for both sides

spiral folio
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1 shot kill by a tor and even like 3 bombs on a jeep won't kill it

copper ice
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solution to this is not to nerf vehicle damage more and more until you're firing peanuts, it's to buff BOTH sides

spiral folio
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The aps was probably the biggest mistake theyve made for balance

copper ice
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Make tanks mobile bastions of death, but make launchers blow the shit out of them too

limpid pond
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Sup losers

spiral folio
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The aps pods are completely unbalanced

copper ice
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Why the fuck should vehicles never die in an arcade shooter

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They're the same as everything else

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Titanfall had the right idea

cosmic storm
limpid pond
copper ice
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Bring your big beefy metal thing and beat the shit out of people and then have it inevitably die

signal forge
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Why did they remove Flashpoint Breakthrough...

copper ice
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Game would be more fun with vehicles on a lower cooldown with higher damage and less defence

cosmic storm
limpid pond
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Loser alert

copper ice
tacit sorrel
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Did the update fix the jammer audio bug?

copper ice
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adding monarch went entirely against that game design and was a stupid decision

limpid pond
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Easy to do because the moment they run you can move faster as a pilot

copper ice
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bro if you're getting rodeos on titans you are playing against 5 year olds

limpid pond
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No you aren't lol. Even iniquity the most season titanfall2 vet will tell you otherwise

copper ice
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180 running is a poor decision 90% of the time as a titan when your defensive measures come out of your face

limpid pond
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Rodeos are mad easy in titanfall 2

copper ice
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Even if what you're saying is true (it's not), you still leave your titan for a long time to get out and rodeo someone else just to regen it's shields and like 10% of it's health

limpid pond
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The only time your rodeo is getting rejected is if they deploy the elxtreic smoke bit then you just jump off and grapple back on

copper ice
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It's liable to get the shit kicked out of it while you're gone

limpid pond
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Yeah you didn't play titanfall 2 or weren't good at it

copper ice
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You can just punch pilots out of the air man

limpid pond
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What was the most kills you got inna single game if you played

copper ice
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I'm saying this from the perspective of someone in the titan

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It is piss easy to not get rodeoed

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The hardest job a titan has with this is legion due to being a fat cunt with windup and he can still just punch bitches out of the air

limpid pond
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The only way you're not getting rodeoed is if the enemy is dogshit

copper ice
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Literally just punch them

limpid pond
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It's piss easy to rodeo

copper ice
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You don't even need to use your guns or abilities

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Punch them

limpid pond
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Literally just punch what? Lmao you can't punch a pilot if you look the opposite way while getting hit by an auto titan with an assault chip and a grapple pilot is after you

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You didn't play

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There's no chance

copper ice
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why the fuck would you be looking away from the pilot

limpid pond
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The only countermeasure to that is to jump out yourself

limpid pond
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Who tf rodeos a full hp titan

copper ice
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If you're on low health its more reason to be looking AT the pilot

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Kill the pilot then fuck his auto titan up

limpid pond
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We gonna have to get in a game and show me how that works for tou

copper ice
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You're telling me to look away so you can rodeo me bro

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I'm sorry but I like not being stupid

bold steppe
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Is there a server browser and controller/console only crossplay in bf2042 now?

limpid pond
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No bro you're going to look away ita that simple lmao

copper ice
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even if they did that in your scenario, your autotitan is going to get blasted while you're rodeoing them

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dude this isn't console

limpid pond
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Everyone does it only titan that doesn't is ronen

copper ice
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it takes 50ms to do a 180 with a mouse

limpid pond
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You not looking away is instance death

copper ice
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How is not looking away instant death from an auto titan LOL

unique drum
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ps plus has made medics so useless

limpid pond
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Nah see you def didn't play. I'm not rodeoing you unless you're low hp. No one does that

bold steppe
copper ice
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Nope!

bold steppe
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Thats why i still play bfv

limpid pond
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If you're low hp and don't look away I'm no rodeoing

copper ice
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Dice are not good

copper ice
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You have to rely on them fucking up to get a rodeo

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So just dont fuck up

nocturne rover
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gang what do we consider a good KD

next onyx
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Depends.

nocturne rover
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dont ask about obj

copper ice
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Depends on mode, obj, what you're doing, who you're doing it with

nocturne rover
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solo bt

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i kill

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2

next onyx
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Generally speaking the average KD back at BF5 was 2.

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And with this game it seems right about the same.

nocturne rover
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NOOOOOO

copper ice
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Are you squatting in the corner with a sniper all round going 5 to 1 after 20 mins or are you hopping in and kicking ass

nocturne rover
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2

copper ice
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if you die a bunch it doesnt matter if you're useful imo

#

I have tons of deaths because I normally use recons so i beacon right next to people

nocturne rover
#

actually

#

showing op is useless

next onyx
#

Bit more deaths with Zain. Been trying his XM a little too much?

nocturne rover
#

yes

#

xm is fun

#

ok this is more useful

tacit sorrel
#

I prefer the other grenade launcher it’s crazy good

copper ice
#

It got nerfed

nocturne rover
#

yes others would use the word broken

#

but

next onyx
#

You can check your stats on battlefield tracker.

#

Try short barrel, standard extended and LWG light grip on the m5a3.

tacit sorrel
#

It needed to happen anyway thing was busted

next onyx
#

Thing rips people a new one up close.

nocturne rover
#

eh i like the ak and am40

tacit sorrel
#

Basically was free kills

next onyx
#

Launcher was too good at killing when they should of left its utility at busting walls really well.

tacit sorrel
#

Ak feels rly good now

nocturne rover
#

i still got no idea what to do with attachments

#

like

#

theoretically on pc

#

i don't need to have vertical recoil help right

#

since its just a matter of pulling down

copper ice
#

ideally vrec does nothing yeah

next onyx
#

Vertical recoil isn't too concerning no.

nocturne rover
#

so hori

next onyx
#

Just stick an arcom on what you can and call it a day.

tacit sorrel
#

I like ads accuracy attachments but I’m on console

copper ice
nocturne rover
#

also

copper ice
#

Not the harbinger of aoe

nocturne rover
#

whats the real diff between supressors

copper ice
#

One reduces damage one reduces velocity

nocturne rover
#

is effective range the damage one

copper ice
#

Yeah

stiff pollen
#

yea

nocturne rover
#

hmm

stiff pollen
#

instead of your gun doing 25 damage at 25m itll do like 22

#

so instead of a 4 shot itll be a 5 shot

nocturne rover
#

i use ac9 i wonder if i should use wrapped instead

copper ice
#

It doesn't normally increase a btk at it's minimum range, but it'll start hurting as soon as it goes a little further

stiff pollen
#

always use wrapped

copper ice
#

Wrapped always imo yeah

opal ridge
#

anyone need a 4th

stiff pollen
#

unless youre trying to show off your guns skin with the attachments

nocturne rover
#

i generally keep it wrapped SmirkThonking

tacit sorrel
#

Use reduce dmg ones for sniper rifles

opal ridge
#

breakthrough or conquest?

nocturne rover
#

lol who tf uses snipers

#

when rorsch exists

tacit sorrel
#

Reduce velo for like almost anything else

copper ice
next onyx
#

6KU isn't really... Eh.

#

28 damage into 25.

#

22 into 20.

#

Doesn't really change many benchmarks.

tacit sorrel
#

If you run a suppressor that is

copper ice
#

22 into 20 is pretty bad

tacit sorrel
#

I usually don’t bother

nocturne rover
#

do y'all use acc while moving generally

copper ice
#

for underbarrel?

nocturne rover
#

ye

next onyx
#

20 damage doesn't really change much.

#

I just stick to LWG grip or the BCG grip.

#

A weapon will still be a 5HK no matter what's done.

#

Same with 25.

copper ice
#

the underbarrel attachments have minimal impact and all come with their own downsides asides from lasers and grenade launchers

nocturne rover
#

yeah i use those two as well

#

i dont even know what accuracy does

#

i dont be missing

next onyx
#

It improves dispersion.

copper ice
next onyx
#

It depends on the weapon. SCAR it doesn't change anything at all.

copper ice
#

The spread on basically all weapons is low enough that ads accuracy has almost no impact from the grip choices

next onyx
#

Pp29 with standard rounds yeah it changes it a little.

tacit sorrel
nocturne rover
#

i might stack recoil control on avancys

#

pulling my mouse off my desk is booty

next onyx
#

But for the most part just use symptic and look at the weapons damage range and make the decision yourself.

copper ice
#

stick a laser on avancy and chainsaw it

next onyx
#

It's how I came to conclusion using the 6KU on the SCAR because it doesn't change any benchmarks and doesn't screw with velocity, Keeping it a ranged gun.

copper ice
nocturne rover
#

is the AK still the best longer range ar

next onyx
#

Ak24 can utilise 6KU without issues, Alongside the RM277.

#

SCAR, Rm277 and the Ac42 are the best ranged AR's.

tacit sorrel
#

I have a feeling it’s going to be terrible on PlayStation with all the f2p bots

nocturne rover
#

u kno its xplay

next onyx
#

Doubt it'll be that bad!

nocturne rover
#

its bad for us too

next onyx
#

Just more people to kill.

#

I donno the problem.

tacit sorrel
#

PlayStation has the biggest player base usually and it was terrible last f2p event

nocturne rover
#

yes

#

but the game is crossplay

next onyx
#

I dunno how it's terrible still.

#

Ok the medics will be useless but medics for the most part are pretty useless.

tacit sorrel
#

Because your teammates literally just go negative and feed all game

next onyx
#

That happens regardless though.

nocturne rover
#

your

next onyx
#

Like look. I get what you mean but I don't think much will change.

tacit sorrel
#

I’m talking entire lobbies going like 5-20

nocturne rover
#

that already happens bro

next onyx
#

If I came off dismissive I apologise but those things you are stating happens regardless.

sullen current
#

Apologize to me aswell

tacit sorrel
#

It’s more noticeable during f2p

dapper river
tacit sorrel
#

It’s just makes obj play much harder with a bunch of noobs that literally can’t fill their class roles

next onyx
nocturne rover
#

its already like that

next onyx
#

There'll be the really bad players coming out of the dark which is true yeah.

#

But that's just how it goes.

nocturne rover
#

i can almost guarantee if i turned off xplay it would be less prevalent but

#

i dont care too much

spiral folio
#

Almost like classes are pointless and the only way to get people to do whats necessary is let the market drive itself

next onyx
#

That's literally how this game works no matter what if on f2p or not.

fervent rose
next onyx
#

Classes are fine, Fun thing to learn.

tacit sorrel
#

F2p just means more stomps unfortunately

next onyx
#

How you're playing a dedicated medic, Or a dedicate recon which gathers intelligence.

spiral folio
#

Because you can give people all the tools they need and they wont use them if theres no incentive

fervent rose
#

i dont understand why you think classes are the issue then

nocturne rover
#

its just.. people

tacit sorrel
#

Ppl are just trash players

fervent rose
#

people are the problem. the players are NOWHERE near what dice idealizes them to be

next onyx
#

If people have everything they still won't utilise the tools to their best.

#

Infact it pushes a shit meta.

arctic grove
#

anyone saw the map bug

spiral folio
#

Classes didn't solve the issue of people not playing as a team, they exacerbated it

#

Because it limited the tools people need

tacit sorrel
#

There’s ppl who can’t win a 1v1 while the enemy is 25hp or lower leo

nocturne rover
#

so

#

what ur saying is

#

ur mad u cant play solo

full burrow
#

We've heard you asking for 64 Player Conquest. --- yeah for like a year lol

spiral folio
#

No

fervent rose
#

it wasnt "teamplay" in the before class update. it was just a bunch of random solo behavior that you couldnt predict

next onyx
#

People still won't utilise the tools fully even if they have everything.

spiral folio
#

I dont like that fewer people have ammo boxes or med crates or tracer darts or... every gadget

copper ice
#

instead of picking zain and a box they're now picking zain and armour

fervent rose
#

and it isnt really teamplay now either. im not delusional

#

but its less random

nocturne rover
#

so ur mad u cant play solo

next onyx
#

I love recons running around with rocket launchers that you couldn't predict.

nocturne rover
#

that u cant provide ur own armor or meds

copper ice
#

they didnt do anything to make people actually do an even split of the classes, or to actually utilize what those classes offer

spiral folio
#

People dont use the tools because theres no incentive. Forcing them to have them or removing them from others wont help that. It just makes it worse.

copper ice
#

i saw an irish earlier running fucking claymores

#

a support with no heals or ammo

#

what the fuck, man

fervent rose
#

battlefield players yo

spiral folio
#

The only thing you saw increase after the class nerf was repairing vehicles. Why?

Because they added it to the scoreboard.

Idiots need incentive to do what is necessary

next onyx
#

I do like what we got in return in how there's a universal class gadget.

fervent rose
#

they give up defibs in older titles

#

for boom boom

copper ice
#

let me just kill myself so he can rez me and i can get my health back

next onyx
#

There was an increase in repair tool usage because people realised that engineer always carried it.

dapper river
# next onyx

wow! how did you manage to capture all my teammates in every game into one single screenshot? 🤯

next onyx
#

I don't think many people care about a scoreboard.

spiral folio
#

People obsess over it

nocturne rover
#

i honestly feel like ammo and med should be universal, not the defib

fervent rose
nocturne rover
#

ammo 100% should be a universal

fervent rose
#

even players who arent good at killing LOVE battlefield scoreboards

drowsy shuttle
#

i think its stupid support have the defibri as the "unique gadjet for the class" while they already use the defibri for normal revives... its like... why?

next onyx
#

Yeah true but saying being in the scoreboard for revives just irks me.

#

Not revives.

dapper river
#

I care about a scoreboard, it helps me be toxic towards my feeder teammates trollo

next onyx
#

Repairs.

spiral folio
#

Theres a contingent of mouthbreathers in all BF games that everything they do is purely to get up the scoreboard

nocturne rover
#

what is another viable pistol besides clock

#

glock

#

im tired of using it

next onyx
#

I like the scoreboard because it's good information on the people I am fighting.

drowsy shuttle
next onyx
#

Use the shotgun.

dapper river
fervent rose
#

mp28, the other burst gun from season 3

next onyx
#

P125.

fervent rose
#

p125 ye

nocturne rover
#

anyways

calm bison
#

Wow DICE has been on top of changes this season

spiral folio
#

These are the people you need to die 50 times because it helps push an objective or the people who will do stupid things and not feel bad about it because they score high for it.

nocturne rover
#

ammo pack should be universal

next onyx
#

I'd use it more if I could have it on burst from the get go.

royal swan
nocturne rover
#

yes.

fervent rose
calm bison
spiral folio
#

The difference in 2042s scoreboard vs all other BF games is previous ganes based it on XP

nocturne rover
#

i mean

#

have it be a class gadget lol

calm bison
#

It is

nocturne rover
#

..

fervent rose
#

they said they arent changing that

nocturne rover
#

a universal

#

class gadget

spiral folio
#

So you still get XP for doing things

But some stuff doesnt get score

calm bison
fervent rose
#

hopefully they will lower the cooldown a lot or completely though

nocturne rover
#

drop the boonk ass defib

#

no one revives anyways

spiral folio
#

Or rather
Almost everything doesnt get score

nocturne rover
#

make the support default ammo bag or med bag

fervent rose
#

since you have a personal cooldown for ammo you should be able to throw the box way more often

next onyx
#

Op I think someone tripped the filter.

royal swan
#

Play angel or go find a angel, their entire ability gives ammo

calm bison
#

We’d revive you if you didn’t keep skipping the revive

nocturne rover
#

nice bro

#

u speak for the medics

#

my bad

next onyx
#

I will admit I do like how they've set out assists and team actions.

cloud agate
#

TDM is actually fun

calm bison
spiral folio
#

I really dont get why you'd give xp for stuff and then not points for them like... if you're gaining xp yiure presumably still helping a team

royal swan
#

Unless you're a Casper

#

With all of your assists

fervent rose
#

they gotta lower the casper score for spotting

#

dudes literally get 0 kills but get 2nd or 3rd on scoreboard

#

its wack

calm bison
#

I mean technically they may be PTFOing

fervent rose
#

like they can take a solid 10th

#

not 2nd place

#

it makes no sense

spiral folio
#

You don't get score for spotting though

calm bison
#

There were people in BFV who had 0 kills but got the points for reviving and healing

arctic grove
#

I just sit back as Lis and play UCAV game

spiral folio
#

You get it for kills assists revs repairs heals captures

royal swan
#

Most of those spots turn to assists

fervent rose
spiral folio
#

Does it count it all as assists?

royal swan
#

Yep

copper ice
#

yeah

#

they simplified it

spiral folio
#

Cause spotting with a rifle doesnt

#

Or did they change that too

royal swan
#

Spot assists count as kill assists

cloud agate
#

191 kills away from T1 AM40

fervent rose
spiral folio
#

Id figure spotting assist should be like 1/3 of what a damage assist does

#

Like spotting helps but come on

cloud agate
#

Y’all think mackay is top 5 specialist ?

copper ice
#

avoid playing the actual game in exchange for permanent spots on the enemy team

fervent rose
copper ice
#

its a horrible concept

fervent rose
#

they could remove the strafe speed perk and med pens from mackay and he's still a strong specialist

cloud agate
spiral folio
#

Ie why it should be xp based

cloud agate
#

I mean if you aren’t a aggressive player stay away from Mackay

spiral folio
#

Mackays biggest flaw is he cant launch tv guided rockets

copper ice
split oyster
#

i did every task to unlock the a91 and its locked

#

how to fix

spiral folio
#

Have a pure heart

nocturne rover
#

they might as well disable nearby medic on hud

next onyx
#

Weird.

spiral folio
#

Combining support and medic was idiotic

next onyx
#

Try playing a portal match.

spiral folio
#

Cause if i were tryint to be the ammo guy im not gonna double duty for every dead asshat in the open too

royal swan
next onyx
#

While I understand what they were trying with support I'm really not a fan of it. I like bf5's system.

spiral folio
#

Bf1/5 had it right

fervent rose
#

the only problem with the current system is that the cooldowns dont make any sense

calm bison
#

BFV had the best class balance

fervent rose
#

the cooldowns were designed for the open universal system

#

they havent adjusted them

next onyx
#

I'd prefer angel to be a box specialist.

spiral folio
#

I dont even touch support cause I'll get morons all "reee y u no rev!!"

tacit sorrel
#

Bf1 had the best class balance imo

fervent rose
#

like angel should be able to throw the medic crate way more often

calm bison
nocturne rover
#

how bad is console aim assist

next onyx
#

Double the distance for boxes.

cloud agate
#

There are tons of support but no revs in TDM

nocturne rover
#

well i gues

#

how good

fervent rose
#

falck should be able to throw more ammo boxes per minute

next onyx
#

Double the activation range.

fervent rose
#

simple stuff

calm bison
#

While I respect your opinion you gotta understand that Assault was basically the best class in BF1

tacit sorrel
#

Bfv was assault spam

next onyx
#

Like bad co 2's medic perk.

calm bison
#

The other classes were kinda shit in comparison in BF1

next onyx
#

Bf5 assault was good but support was so good.

spiral folio
#

I just play lis cause I'll never get enough rocket ammo to kill anything otherwise. And the rail has enough ammo for what i do

calm bison
#

BFV had good class balance because every class was viable

next onyx
#

Support with snipey assault rifles.

#

Fg42 and bar.

tacit sorrel
#

You can say the same about bf1

next onyx
#

You can't stop me.

#

Eh.

cloud agate
#

IS wrapped suppressor any good ??

calm bison
tacit sorrel
#

Every class was viable

calm bison
#

Assault had the strongest weapons

next onyx
#

Bf1 had aged gunplay.

fervent rose
#

bfv was pretty good on class balance, but i wish medic wasnt the only heal to 100 class

calm bison
#

Medic and Support were sort of useless in a way

next onyx
#

Bf5's was annoying yeah but it was more consistent.

calm bison
#

The most popular weapons in those classes were the assault weapons

fervent rose
#

attrition gimping 3 out of 4 classes was really weird to me

next onyx
#

Yeah yo, I wouldn't mind a fast regen and past that a slow regen.

tacit sorrel
#

You realize medic trains existed in bf1 right

calm bison
#

The BAR, Fedorov, and Parabellum are the most popular non-assault weapons

arctic grove
next onyx
#

Yet some how I dealt with it for 1100 hours as a support main.

#

That's fine if you do enjoy it.

fervent rose
#

yea i played a lot of support/assault too

#

lewis gun and fg42 were so fun

#

and literally any assault gun rocked

calm bison
#

While BFV classes weren’t entirely perfect I’d still play with that class system even over BF4

copper ice
next onyx
#

Bar, bren and fg42. My most used weapons.

#

They were so much damn fun.

calm bison
#

I was an MG42 pleb

royal swan
calm bison
#

But I got like 4.5K kills with it

copper ice
copper ice
next onyx
#

Think I got 52K with the fg42?

#

And only 1K with the mg42?

calm bison
fervent rose
next onyx
#

You say that and yet I do.

copper ice
#

fg42 was the way

spiral folio
#

Bf5 i forget what i used cause i went back to bf1 when they kept buffing planes

calm bison
#

Says the guy who T1’d all the new guns in S4 basically 3 days after the season dropped

copper ice
royal swan
fervent rose
#

nah

next onyx
#

Cause I had the spare time?

calm bison
#

How do you have the spare time

fervent rose
#

ubgl smoke doesnt last and the reload takes forever to have it be your main setup

next onyx
#

I just do. Didn't intrude on my schedule at all.

royal swan
#

If you got those clutches then yeah but overall

copper ice
#

it doesnt have to be your main, just takes up an UB slot

fervent rose
#

you can run smoke launcher + smoke nade and still resupply yourself as angel

copper ice
#

its not like anything else is worth putting down there

fervent rose
#

its really good for breakthrough

next onyx
#

I always run smoke as assault. It's too clutch.

copper ice
#

yeah but then you're running smoke launcher 🤢

spiral folio
#

My old pre class nerf asaault build i used the incendiary underbarrel a lot

next onyx
#

Smoke launcher isn't bad but I hate reloading it.

fervent rose
#

smoke launcher is one of the best items in the game

spiral folio
#

Cause you could shut down a doorway with that

copper ice
#

I'm generally finding all my matches full of smoke already though

fervent rose
#

we have giant maps with no cover

#

and a smoke wall gadget

#

its good

copper ice
#

just use recon

next onyx
#

I might try smoke launcher and frags when I'm done with the grenades.

copper ice
#

double smokes, UBGL smokes, beacon, respawn, smokes are back

fervent rose
#

i use smoke launcher on mackay/falck

next onyx
#

Currently it's c4 and smoke.

fervent rose
#

i enjoy it a lot

#

you can be very aggro

next onyx
#

You given zain a proper go?

#

Or do you not like his character.

royal swan
next onyx
#

His niche.

fervent rose
#

nope. went 8kd on my first round and left him like that

copper ice
#

i hate playing in smoke so i am admittedly biased against it

fervent rose
#

i am not an airburst enjoyer

next onyx
#

For me smokes have to always be ready, and I'm the kind to immediately put the launcher down after firing it and forget to reload it.

#

Grenades are always ready. They're my friend.

spiral folio
#

I just use smoke to escape mostly

next onyx
#

I pat them like my cat.

#

If I had one.

copper ice
#

when the only grenades that are useful are frags or smokes you may as well just always have smokes

next onyx
#

And im allergic to cats so.

copper ice
#

ammo box gives you pretty consistent bonus smokes

royal swan
#

I want them to fix the fucking throw delay

fervent rose
next onyx
#

I had emps save my life once. Forgot I had them on, encountered a tank, stared me, threw emp and ran for my life screaming like a monkey.

spiral folio
#

Emp
Were they robot cats?

royal swan
#

I use auto throw for nades and I HATE THAT FUCKING 3/4 SECOND DELAY

fervent rose
#

any single input feels delayed in this game

#

from melee to interact

next onyx
#

I wish proxy chat was on so they could hear me lose my shit.

copper ice
#

emps are in a weird position where they are insanely infuriating to play against in a tank but also dont actually damage the tank

next onyx
#

Actually talking about melee. The damn thing is instant now.

#

Well.

copper ice
#

which just leads to MORE camping

next onyx
#

As instant as it can get.

fervent rose
#

it's better but still not what i would call responsive

next onyx
#

But there's a general engine delay.

#

Yeah.

nocturne rover
#

im debating disabling xplay

#

but i dont want to have empty lobbies

next onyx
#

I still feel it when on the controller.

royal swan
#

Why is there even an engine delay

fervent rose
#

nothing in 2042 is "responsive" feeling

#

its a weird game

next onyx
#

I'm no dev but if I can make a theory. Its how the engine takes in information.

#

But I have nothing.

copper ice
#

i tried disabling crossplay on pc and i didnt get a single lobby with over 5 players

next onyx
#

Like I could say it's a undeveloped, disorganised mess. But that's not explaining the specifics.

nocturne rover
#

dang

#

i guess console players r a necessary evil

fervent rose
copper ice
#

its just because they left crossplay on by default

#

the average player doesnt turn it off

fervent rose
#

they're happy to sit in the crossplay nonsense

next onyx
#

Just come to OCE and you'll get harder games.

#

You'll learn who to hate.

fervent rose
#

okay i dont wanna say you guys dont have great players but it looks like a fiesta there too OMEGALUL

#

i watch a couple OCE guys

next onyx
#

Dude you'll have a bunch of average players and then you'll get the most fucked kind of players.

royal swan
#

What does OCE stand for

next onyx
#

There's assault, shady, realmy, etc.

#

Oceania.

#

It's to refer to Australia and new Zealand. But it also includes Papua new Guinea as well in reality? But connection wise that's in Asia.

copper ice
#

it means the forbidden realm in terms of PC gaming

#

they have very poor connection to the rest of the world

next onyx
#

180 ping isn't the worst thankfully.

grand gulch
#

they should bring med and ammo pouches back

next onyx
#

But due to how battlefield does ping I'd rather not.

copper ice
#

180 ping isn't the worst

fervent rose
#

they already hotfixed/nerfed the sticky launcher ChefKiss

copper ice
#

here you witness the first lost soul from OCE

grand gulch
#

syringe pistol is kind of like med pouch where you can keep your HP full with the least effort

last swift
#

relocate? leo

fervent rose
next onyx
#

Med pouch actually magnetises to people at least.

copper ice
#

syringe pistol does too

snow salmon
#

when using wasd keys driving vehicle. when I hold W and try and turn the vehicle slows way down, slow speeds sucks ass. Am I missing something?

copper ice
#

it just has weird travel time

arctic grove
#

How pet ranger

fervent rose
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they changed a small thing in the last patch that people havent caught on to yet with falck syringes

next onyx
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Not as well as bandages.

copper ice
grand gulch
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true but I mean like throw the pouch at a wall back onto yourself in bf1

next onyx
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I just liked how you could use them while sprinting.

next onyx
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Made doing your job on the go easier.

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What have they changed tho.

fervent rose
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man i dont want to explain because its going to increase rat behavior

next onyx
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People will find out one way or another though.

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I'm just curious on how it works.

tacit sorrel
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Did am40 get buffed or something?

next onyx
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No it's always been this good.

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It's the best submachine gun in the game.

arctic grove
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RANGER HAS A PARACHUTE?

fervent rose
arctic grove
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It just parachuted down to me in flashpoint

fervent rose
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and another small detail they added physics to them

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i see very few people even shoot prep syringes so idk if people are going to figure this one out fast

next onyx
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I saw a falck shoot 6 into the ground but what was changed?

grand gulch
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she wanted to heal the floor

fervent rose
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its like the ammo pickup change they did a while ago

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ill leave it there leo

next onyx
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Wasn't even aware about that at all.

copper ice
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they stay down longer?

fervent rose
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nope

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same duration

next onyx
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I just wanna know man. I need to know more.

copper ice
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oh man

fervent rose
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delete now

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delete now

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hide this information

copper ice
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fuck a medbag

fervent rose
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this isnt something you share with the bf playerbase

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sorry

copper ice
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this is ridiculous

next onyx
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Weird.

grand gulch
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dm it to me wut

fervent rose
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yea its busted Way

next onyx
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I've never noticed it until now I guess.

copper ice
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falck with an lmg and a little bit of prep being functionally immortal if you dont put her down fast enough

fervent rose
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its just changed with 4.0

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unintentional i think too

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but we'll see

next onyx
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I don't understand though how does it change anything?

grand gulch
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OOHHH

next onyx
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Yea though I don't see the difference in doing it manually.

grand gulch
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ctd fuck thats evil

next onyx
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Weird.

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I dunno. Maybe I just don't understand it the way I'm supposed to.

magic bloom
copper ice
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good luck one shotting anyone with these shotguns

magic bloom
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S22 is the only one that can

next onyx
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Not impossible.

magic bloom
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All the other ones you have to hit the head

next onyx
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Shorty helps.

magic bloom
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I think the shorty can one shot cause some of the pellets hit the head in my experience if you shoot center mass

copper ice
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They definitely can, but good luck with it being consistent

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afaik shotgun pellets have no head multiplier

magic bloom
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The S22 is consistent unless they did some nerf I don’t know about

grand gulch
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shell loading simulator

magic bloom
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Only thing it lacks is loading speed

magic bloom
fervent rose
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the hitreg is too unreliable for any non 12m shotgun

copper ice
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I've had every single shotgun in the game 1hk and fail to 1hk at ranges that they absolutely should not be doing

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which makes me think its a hitreg issue yeah

fervent rose
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definitely is

magic bloom
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It might be

fervent rose
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i have that same experience where they work sometimes and dont other times

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12m always work

copper ice
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saturation never fails

fervent rose
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also for some reason master keys feel better than the regular shotguns

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more consistent

magic bloom
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I think it also has to do with the fact that shotguns pattern somewhat randomly in this game

thick shadow
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So I just unlocked a grenade launcher for the sws10

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☠️

copper ice
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i have drastically more success with actual ohks on the masterkey than everything else

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Idk why either

fervent rose
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they reworked all shotguns pellets in some s3 patch

copper ice
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12m sometimes is like a 5hk within 10 metres on a stationary target

fervent rose
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and its been weird ever since for some guns

tribal epoch
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Game free on ps plus now

copper ice
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Masterkey is never more than 3, and is 90% of the time 2 max

mortal iris
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Is the KSG worth using when the aa12 exists

copper ice
mortal iris
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I don't know their real ingame names

next onyx
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Saiga and dp12.

fervent rose
solid crag
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is jav broken

copper ice
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if by broken you mean shit

magic bloom
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S22 is better than the 12m Imo

solid crag
copper ice
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Yep

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It's shit

fervent rose
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javelin travels at a very casual, calm pace

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it takes in the sights

solid crag
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as long as it isnt like firing an mbt law at a jeep

nocturne rover
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ok so

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an easy change i just realized

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why not block you from skipping revive.. until your respawn timer is up

copper ice
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jav is genuinely worse than m5 in almost all situations

opal ridge
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breakthrough?

copper ice
fervent rose
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gotta give them the freedom to skip to menu OMEGALUL

copper ice
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average player doesnt like dying and waiting in menu

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er, waiting TO menu

fervent rose
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no actually they should be stuck there on the ground for a few seconds. it's battlefield

copper ice
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they love waiting IN menu

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why play the game when you can die and go back to menu

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they love menu

fervent rose
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the medics should be given a chance to get anyone

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a small window

copper ice
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I agree strongly with this

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the current revive symbol stays up slightly longer than its actually active for as well

arctic grove
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but they’ll release the Skins in Shop?

copper ice
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ive lost a ton of revives that the game said i could still get but were already in menu

magic bloom
grizzled whale
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Classes gone yet?

magic bloom
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No

grizzled whale
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Shame

last swift
thick shadow
copper ice
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Good luck with that