battlefield-2042

[pine roost]

anyways I have to get ready for my lecture, peace

[patent prism]

Adíos, hombre.

[next onyx]

I have a rock playlist and all that but I haven't used spotify in a long time.

I'd use it again but it's like... Eh.

[patent prism]

I got a single-payment lifetime Spotify Premium but tbf I barely use it.

[eager spire]

I have locally stored music, I use Spotify for listening to stuff I do not have locally at the moment, or trying to find new stuff outside of Bandcamp.

Speaking of finding new stuff. https://open.spotify.com/track/6xeMsEEUC7lhZc9xLty606?si=1a8e05efa0e749c2

[patent prism]

Definitiely not my kind of music lmao

[eager spire]

I highkey fuck with this artist's vibe.

[patent prism]

La Grange by ZZ Top is more my type of music.

[eager spire]

probably isn't a lot of people's thing but then again it does have like 14 million plays on Spotify. :P

it's also on bandcamp. i'll probably buy that album.

[patent prism]

Yeah, a lot of people in the world y'know.

I legit have a list called 'Nam, Baby! if you can imagine what kinda music that is.

[eager spire]

I imagine it's just Fortunate Son 700 times in a row

[patent prism]

... maybe.

[eager spire]

because that's genuinely the only thing i can think of when i think of Vietnam besides war crimes

[patent prism]

Napalm sticks to kids.

[eager spire]

I'm sure it does.

[clever marlin]

Y’all are fucked up

[patent prism]

It's a song; https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t9eybY9qFfY

[patent prism]

Thank you!

[eager spire]

ok

Oh, To The Grave is Australian. That's interesting to know.

[patent prism]

Neato.

Speaking of Australia, have you ever heard "I was only 19"?

[eager spire]

Nope.

[patent prism]

Pretty decent PTSD song.

You know it's gonna be depressing when it's a Vietnam anti-war song.

[grand gulch]

do the battle pass weeklies change today or tomorrow

[patent prism]

Tomorrow, buddy.

[grand gulch]

fuck I want to do them NOOWW

[patent prism]

Same here, me want RM68.

[mighty holly]

Use time travel

_ _

[grand gulch]

[eager spire]

tbh the only thing i've listened to that could be described as a PTSD song is "Daddy" by Korn and that was largely uncomfortable to listen to.

[grand gulch]

because bro had a breakdown and rubin left the booth mic hot

[eager spire]

yeah man literally had a breakdown and they just recorded all that and put it on the album

94 be different i guess

[grand gulch]

my korn playlist is called TWO BALL BITCH

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q53GWPaLEHg this song the guy fucking bugs out too

[eager spire]

huh.

[grand gulch]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6ijfodGBtHM

dude is legit haunted

[hexed reef]

A classic Australian song

AC DC - highway to hell is a very well know Australian 👌 classic 👌

and the veggie might sandwich song called "land downunder"

legit should be in the bf2042 in game raido lol

[royal trail]

flashpoint conquest seem glitched out, the description say 64 v 64 but i always get into 32 v 32 player games

[chilly jacinth]

its only bugged visually

its supposed to be 64p only

[royal trail]

it was 128 earlier

[chilly jacinth]

ye but they changed it to 64p

[royal trail]

okie

thanks

[unkempt hawk]

SVK vs DM7?

[eager spire]

i also heard they limited PC/console crossplay on that playlist.

I don't know how they could've possibly done that and some people seem to think it's input based, which does not seem accurate to me.

[chilly jacinth]

dunno about that

seems like crossplay is working as normal to me

[grand gulch]

You can 2 shot with the svk I like it more and if you put short barrel and standard rounds on it it’s not that much more recoil than the dm7

Neither are as dump trucky as the bsv

[royal trail]

at release the game got you into full games all the time with crossplay off as pc player, but now u have to wait for hours with it off and still not find any players. so its better to keep on

[eager spire]

i donno about that either but there are people on reddit that seem to think that that's a thing

[chilly jacinth]

just another reddit moment

[eager spire]

yeah probably

i don't know why i pay attention to reddit.

[royal trail]

reddit got some good stuff sometimes, but u have to filter through 99% troll posts

lol

[chilly jacinth]

staying away from twitter and reddit will improve your life

[eager spire]

if i wanna hear viewpoints i actually care about, none of them are gonna be on Reddit.

I don't even have a Twitter anymore, i deleted mine when Elon bought the site, i wasn't giving that idiot my time.

[royal trail]

elon got some cool dancemoves tho, i can respect that

[elder meteor]

Yepp, thats why he has so many kids..

[eager spire]

shame he can't run a social media website. or a car manufacturer. or a space company.

[arctic grove]

I mostly stay for artworks

[royal trail]

hm, the chats actually kept quite calm now since people knew the other team couldnt see their hate posts anyway. i guess the toxicity will get back on track now

[eager spire]

yeah they said in the podcast that they were looking into lowering the transport heli's survivability.

[grand gulch]

m16 will be meta with aow attatchments

[dapper night]

I mean they can always disable it, idk why they keep complaining about toxicity if they can always mute it

[arctic grove]

petition to add vehicle in every rush map

[dapper night]

Still waiting for them to separate the Ram from the Wildcat and make a dedicated Mobile AA category and place the Wildcat on it

[spiral folio]

Toxic people didnt go away they just yell at their own team

[dapper night]

All online games contains toxicity

[sinful vale]

Hi all
https://twitter.com/BSPplay/status/1632734569995567110

[dapper night]

Even minecraft have toxic players

[spiral folio]

Yesterday i had a kid rail on how i was 17th place (at 17-1 with 4 helicopter kills)

He then absolutely stands firm that he doesnt care about points.

I mentioned he only cares about points because scoreboard placement is purely based on points.

And he suddenly has nothing to say

I was doin really well that round. Their helo was so pissed i kept shooting him out that eventually he kept going after me and ignoring our flags

Like even down to people parachuting out of bounds to get me

[arctic grove]

teammates or enemies?

[spiral folio]

Enemies

It was really a funny situation

One got me eventually but man they lost a lot of tickets going for me at the spot i can just.... Respawn at...

I'm out nothing, ammo replenished.

They lose a helicopter and 2-3 people

Unfortunately I dont get anything for people OB-ing themselves

[hexed reef]

Spite lmao

[spiral folio]

Yea crossteam chat woulda made it more fun

That crosseyed rage wasting their teams resources for just me

[hexed reef]

[arctic grove]

revenge is best served cold

[spiral folio]

I remember on play4free people would waste helicopters to go after me on this one tower. Theyd land and knife around. Id jump in the helicopter

Happened more than youd think

[chilly jacinth]

looks like flashpoint is 128p again

[arctic grove]

vehicles in rush when

[spiral folio]

Vehicle only rush

Gotta have like somebody in a jeep lean out and set the bomb

[arctic grove]

add vehicle in all Rush map

so I can bomb vehicle

[spiral folio]

Minibird only BT would be fun

Couldnt do spearhead thoigh

[cinder tapir]

Rpt-31 becomes really solid with short barrel
Loving the thing

[wide shore]

I’d love to use it with the short barrel standard ammo. But DICE doesn’t want me to.

Tried getting to the next mastery rank like google recommended but it didn’t do anything

[glacial quarry]

shit

i really want that now

its prob an upgraded lcmg

just need to test the dmg values

lcmg is 4 shot kill till 30m and 5 shot till 100m wonder if its better than that

[sour steeple]

Nope. Its worse

[dapper river]

I need all chat NOW!!!!!

[glacial quarry]

@sour steeple oh? in what way

[arctic grove]

when podcast tho

all chat will be huge

imagine prox chat tho

[sour steeple]

22dmg up close. Sprint out time. Accuracy. Lcmg is overall better

[glacial quarry]

wtf lol 22 dmg up close

thats useless

literally just use avancys at that point

or pkp bp even

maybe its still worth using if its like SUPER accurate

[sour steeple]

Lcmg and avancis are more accurate

[glacial quarry]

lmao

what about the new AR

[sour steeple]

Lmg is just mid.

New ar is... op

[arctic grove]

who tf said avancys is the smg of lmgs tho

pkp is

[glacial quarry]

the only reason to use an avancys is suppressor

lcmg is just better in every way

[sour steeple]

Yep.

[hexed mango]

avancys was fun when it was op

[arctic grove]

does lcmg not have a suppressor?

[glacial quarry]

more accuracte, 4 shot kill till 30m or 20m if u use cqb rounds

it does

[arctic grove]

also

[glacial quarry]

but no point not using short barrel

[sour steeple]

Yep

[balmy crag]

When new Battlepas missions?

[arctic grove]

who the hell puts a suppressor on their lmg

thats a crime

LMG must be loud and scary

[glacial quarry]

ive gotten so many 6+ man wipes with avancys suppressed

flanks

still doable with lcmg but a bit harder

[arctic grove]

im sure you could do that without the suppressor

[glacial quarry]

ya i have no issue doing it

its a trade off

[arctic grove]

its about the position, not the stealth

[glacial quarry]

it kills faster

but they also turn around faster

the best is still pp29 suppressed

for flanking

[arctic grove]

I still havent T1d pp29 cuz I cant bring myself to like this gun

and on release I only maybe got like 500 kills before switching over

cuz the bloom nerf patch dropped

[glacial quarry]

its still good

use standard ammo

[arctic grove]

it is

I just dont enjoy using it

[glacial quarry]

i would personally rank it no.3 gun overall

behind bsv-m and lcmg

[arctic grove]

your opinion

sfar and rm

are still strong as hell

[glacial quarry]

i used to like the sfar

but lcmg >>>>>

i havent tried the new AR

but im expecting it to be broken

[arctic grove]

its not broken

but it is strong

[balmy crag]

Hello new battlepas missions??

[glacial quarry]

honestly avanc is still really good got 5k kills with it before i discovered lcmg

still 3.2 kpm

all post nerf

lcmg just has way better CQB potential cos of the 4 shot kill till 30m

[tidal trail]

All the portal weapons need a buff especially the SVD 3 shots to kill is bad

Makes it useless as a sniper

[arctic grove]

tomorrow?

[arctic grove]

what ammo u using?

[tidal trail]

Ripple effect studios isn't great at making weapons. Portal weapons should be developed by DICE, they would feel so much nicer to use

[arctic grove]

true

they didnt give a shit bout portal weapons

they were like

yea whatever, lets just make a bunch real quick

no one will notice we didnt put any effort into them

[remote kiln]

they were pretty clear that functionality would be stripped for portal weapons

even before they were added to the game

people still wanted them regardless

[glacial quarry]

standard most of the time

unless i know im going really cqb then cqb

[tidal trail]

The MTAR silencer is still broken and invisible

[kindred quarry]

Koenigsberg

[glacial quarry]

standard is all around just way better. 244ms ttk is good enough for cqb dont need 222ms

standard is 4 shot till 30m, 5 till 100m, cqb is 4 shot till 20m only, and 5 till 50m only huge diff

not worth the 50rpm imo

[kindred quarry]

DICE should include a Kurdish fighter.

A lasting tattoo on Turkey's north flank

[keen sinew]

Aaaaand console only crossplay was a bug

[tidal trail]

Good

[remote kiln]

why would they do that

[tidal trail]

cross play only

[kindred quarry]

I thought at least

[keen sinew]

Dice did that?

before?

[still vault]

Now. Just a friendly reminder that IRL politics do not belong on here.

!!r5

[tender pendant]

Rule 5: Do not post content that is: political, abusive, threatening, defamatory, racial, sexual, religious, edgy, baiting, relates to suicide or is otherwise objectionable/offensive.

[kindred quarry]

2042 needs earthquakes

[keen sinew]

jesus

hope turkish doing well

[kindred quarry]

2042 needs Shackleton Crater

[last swift]

[kindred quarry]

Moon quakes!!!

[keen sinew]

Did nightbirds gets buffed with stealth patches

[kindred quarry]

Crimea map please

[remote kiln]

it wasnt a stealth patch, the movement got fixed 2 patches go

[keen sinew]

some dude said damage falloff of minigun become weird recently

[limpid pond]

[keen sinew]

[still vault]

[steady quiver]

guys, anyone here is getting the problem that the cpu uses is on 100% while playing bf2042?

[keen sinew]

have you update your nvidia driver?

[quaint vector]

[steady quiver]

yes

everything its updated

[keen sinew]

they got some bug with latest driver

about more CPU usage

[steady quiver]

how can i fix that?

[still vault]

https://answers.ea.com/t5/Technical-Issues/Known-Issue-Nvidia-Drivers-Version-531-18/td-p/12359674

[keen sinew]

download the old one and use that

[keen sinew]

try 528.34

[steady quiver]

but i wasnt getting that high cpu usage yesterday

with the same driver installed

[keen sinew]

what gamemode you usually playing?

[remote kiln]

the issue has only just been acknowledged

revert the driver

[steady quiver]

conquest

[keen sinew]

flashpoint?

[steady quiver]

only conquest, i dont tried the other gamemodes because i bought the game yesterday

[still vault]

https://www.guru3d.com/news-story/nvidia-geforce-531-18-driver-bug-causes-higher-cpu-usage-company-acknowledges-issue.html

[keen sinew]

CPU usage is lot different with 64 players compare to 128 players

[spiral folio]

Thank nvidya

[keen sinew]

idk dice fix that issue but there was a bug that you join only 64 players with flashpoint conquest

[spiral folio]

EA "you neeeeeeeed this update or you cant use the game"
Whats the update dk
Nvidia "blows up your cpu"
:u?

[remote kiln]

its not a bug

[keen sinew]

I did thought it was EA problem

https://i.redd.it/ff036l75t4ma1.png

[spiral folio]

EAs main fault is constantly requiring the absolute newest driver all the time

[keen sinew]

no it is

[remote kiln]

oh huh its a console issue, interesting

didnt see the post

[keen sinew]

522.30 with recent patches i think?

why?

[spiral folio]

Even bf1 will stop you if you dont have your drivers up

[keen sinew]

lol

[remote kiln]

the DLL drivers update server side for nvidia checks, its not client side

its for the anti cheat

[royal swan]

Can't wait for all chat

[keen sinew]

can wait to get banned for racism

[spiral folio]

"Whoooa what are ya doin there slugger?"
... playing this 5 year old game?
"Without the proper driver?"
Its newer than the one when the game was active
"Nah cant let you in without the newest driver champ"

[royal swan]

You know damn well they won't care and will probably join you

Or talk back

[keen sinew]

try type "China" in Asia region

they gonna love that

[royal swan]

I'm sure saying Japan without the an will do better tbh

[spiral folio]

The emperor should rule the three kingdoms

[white ginkgo]

bro im in SHOCK i just discovered some CRAZY ASS MANDELA BRO

apparently darth vader NEVER SAID "luke, i am your father"

[spiral folio]

The mandalorian effect

[white ginkgo]

hold up WHAT

[keen sinew]

wat

[white ginkgo]

deadass

supposedly it never happened

weve been matrixed

[spiral folio]

Yea its not the exact wording

[royal swan]

I think it was no, I am your father

[keen sinew]

me too btw

[white ginkgo]

yall got me feeling delirious fuck this simulation on god what da fawk bruh how yall gon tell me that aint it mandela'd up the ass for real

we from alternative places

[royal swan]

No I think you're bugging

[spiral folio]

I mean its a really documented scene but society memed "luuuuke i am your fatherrrr"

[white ginkgo]

ive had enough conspiracy for today wow

[spiral folio]

Shouldnt take more than a minute to find the scene and 9001 parodies of it

[keen sinew]

like seriously, people get banned for accusing some china clan cheating by team chat

[royal swan]

We are getting a new equipment for season 5 I hope it's the mortars

[keen sinew]

before season 2

[unkempt hawk]

bruh sfar M is so fun

😳

[keen sinew]

I love sfar

[unkempt hawk]

do u know what i should use on it? Like what optics and barrel

[spiral folio]

New equipment will be another soflam. Does exactly the same thing but the reticle is slightly different

And it counts for totally separate missions

[royal swan]

Well don't play asian servers. Go play North America servers where we are just terrible people

[keen sinew]

bruh I live there

[royal swan]

Vpn

[keen sinew]

no chance

[royal swan]

You're writing decent English, where are you anyways

Philippines?

Ah

[keen sinew]

that was way political

[royal swan]

The hermit one

[keen sinew]

yeap

I tried LA server

but the ping

[royal swan]

What you mean by LA

[keen sinew]

Los angelos?

[royal swan]

Why you going in a los Angeles server

I suggest going to a server in Washington

Or Canada

[surreal portal]

Bruh mortars in this game will be hell

The grenade spam is already crazy

[royal swan]

Who said it will be bf1 mortars

[surreal portal]

I was thinking more bf4 mortars

[royal swan]

Mortars are genuinely balanced and annoying

[surreal portal]

They’re the most annoying thing but bf1 they seemed to work and find a balance in the mechanics of the game

[keen sinew]

there is thousand of kilometer between you and me

[surreal portal]

Still extremely annoying, if they add them into bf 2042 I’m gunna main Conquest because mortars on rush is game breaking

[royal swan]

I thought about adding mortars in this game more than anyone

[keen sinew]

and if i try Washington there will be like 200ms ping and 10% packet loss

whatever vpn i use

[royal swan]

How the fuck does Washington servers get that bad, they are closer than LA

[keen sinew]

LOOK AT THE MAP

[surreal portal]

And you thought about how they would be equivalent to Zain’s airburst gun

[royal swan]

Nope, not at all.

[keen sinew]

I live Pacific side of your country

[surreal portal]

No to thinking about it or that they’re not equivalent?

Sorry I’m just tryna wrap my head around how they’d fit

[royal swan]

Washington state.

Washington State is on the Pacific coast

I am not talking about D.C

[keen sinew]

ohhhh

You guys have 50 of states

and idk all of them my mistake

but the ping issue will be same cuz of distance

[royal swan]

The states on the Pacific coast are California, Oregon, and Washington. You're going to California servers

Which is on the bottom of the Pacific coast

Washington is at the top of the Pacific coast of America

[keen sinew]

that Seattle place

[royal swan]

Seattle Washington

Yeah

[keen sinew]

thank you but 130ms ping is harsh

[spiral folio]

Soon to be greater idaho too

[royal swan]

Actually looking at a map, California is a tad fucking closer. I forgot how fucking huge the Pacific was. But the distance ain't that much to be a different

[still vault]

Need underwater cable maps

[spiral folio]

Yea it depends where cables and hubs are mostly

[limpid pond]

Dude what's the best grip for the ac9? I've been leaning towards the lwg but I wonder if the bcg isn't better

[keen sinew]

Like a little closer

[royal swan]

That makes no sense as the underwater cables are deep underwater

[spiral folio]

My bet would be LA or seattle for hubs

[keen sinew]

we got some cables from JP which connects with NA so

[royal swan]

And the last time those things were fucked everything almost went to shit

[keen sinew]

They both does and theres no big difference

[silent cave]

Man my bf2042 so unstable it should be in a mental asylum same of any other battlefield game

[keen sinew]

like sub-10ms differ?

[royal swan]

What about Hawaii servers

[keen sinew]

NO

[royal swan]

I wonder if Hawaii servers are even that good

[keen sinew]

I bet Hawaii do not have that much data hub

[spiral folio]

Probably not

[grizzled blaze]

man i still really dont like the forced class shit

[royal swan]

Oh no not this shit again

[grand gulch]

"game ready driver"

[spiral folio]

They put hubs where it's easier to have the most people served

[keen sinew]

all I know is EA have some data center hosted at Seattle and LA

[grizzled blaze]

i never asked for it prior so i get to complain

[spiral folio]

And you wouldn't want to lay a bunch of cables around hawaii

[keen sinew]

Yeap

And tell the sharks stop eating cables

[spiral folio]

That and volcanoes

The ones that go through hawaii are from australia

But like from east asia its a straight shot

[keen sinew]

yes

[dapper river]

fuck NvidiaaaaAAAAAAAA

[steady quiver]

its only on bf2042 the issue with 100% cpu usage, i already tested a few couple of games

[keen sinew]

look

[steady quiver]

idk why

[keen sinew]

this game is CPU bound game like heavliy

[broken horizon]

so only 2042 is bugged with this new driver or other games?

[keen sinew]

all of them

RTX video upscaling could make that happen

but idk what caused that

[grand gulch]

dlss?

[royal swan]

No wonder why my game has been laggy out of nowhere

[grand gulch]

or just raytracing

[keen sinew]

the new feature

[grand gulch]

dlss

[keen sinew]

with Chrome browser

that upscales video

[grand gulch]

I see

[arctic grove]

https://youtu.be/RRMpWijZMGo

[grand gulch]

1 confirmed balloon kill

40 billion dollars

[acoustic seal]

https://www.reddit.com/r/battlefield2042/comments/11jr9m1/flashpoint_conquest_can_we_keep_console_only/jb522ib

how

[keen sinew]

do F-22 crashed by hurricane every year?

[keen sinew]

they tried week 2 playlist and forget to revert i guess

[royal swan]

It's reddit

Of course they will say stupid garbage

[spiral folio]

Rumor is the f22 production was ended because a breakthrough happened mid production so they went to work on a revised one

So youre stuck with
Have the f22 for decades to come
Or make the next one sooner

[acoustic seal]

Just confirming that we didn't implement console-only crossplay.

We currently have a bug that started occurring over the weekend where players on console will matchmake into the 128 player Flashpoint Conquest experience, while PC matchmakes into 64 player Flashpoint Conquest.

This means that for the Flashpoint CQ specific playlists, console and PC won't matchmake together, even if cross-play is enabled. We're preparing a fix for this bug right now.```

[dapper river]

YOU try shooting a baloon at 60,000 feet when the operating flight ceiling of your aircraft is (allegedly) 50,000 feet

[keen sinew]

I thought your congress declined that

[spiral folio]

Estimated ceiling is like 65 i think

[keen sinew]

So

[next onyx]

Means that they can separate pc and console. Which is good.

[spiral folio]

They've been testing f22 successors for a while

[limpid pond]

Servers crashed

[keen sinew]

no more production?

[limpid pond]

Now they're good???

Guess it was just me nvm

[royal swan]

We already have a crossplay/no crossplay option in the settings, if they want console only they turn off crossplay

[limpid pond]

That's not gonna happen

[lapis pebble]

That will turn crossplay off, ppl want crossplay on but not with PC

[dapper river]

Disabling crossplay should be renamed to the "I admit that I'm bad xd" button

[royal swan]

LMAO

[mighty holly]

So based

[keen sinew]

L console

[next onyx]

https://twitter.com/BFBulletin/status/1632798015655215104?t=288HIOl7XKL435haYhdRAA&s=19

[keen sinew]

Is aim assist good on this game

[next onyx]

Rip the dream.

It's whatever.

A console only crossplay would be cool.

[dapper river]

embed fail??

[next onyx]

If not. Stronger auto aim.

Not auto aim but assist.

[keen sinew]

aha

[lapis pebble]

[keen sinew]

i get it

[next onyx]

Uh twitter is having a fucking stroke right now.

[royal swan]

Why is it that the only battlefield community that doesn't go brain dead crazy is the battlefield discord

[next onyx]

Zoom snap has no business being as strong as it is. But general slowdown for console could use a buff.

Not sure.

[acoustic seal]

this channel is just regular braindead

[pseudo lake]

Anyone know how big of a radius is camilla jammer? Like is it tiny like the size of a grenades impact or is a big? Haven’t unlocked her yet but her abilities sound pretty annoying and possibly OP, just depending on how big the radius is

[next onyx]

More annoying than anything else.

[keen sinew]

half of average objectve

[chilly jacinth]

the only annoying thing is the constant static sound

[next onyx]

Denying intelligence is fine though the sounds never leave your head.

[acoustic seal]

you can get to tweets by taking the tracking garbage off the links, images are still dead tho https://twitter.com/BFBulletin/status/1632798015655215104

[next onyx]

Getoutofmygetoutofmeheadgetoutofmyhead

[keen sinew]

I thought it was BF1 easteregg shit

when I first heard them

[pseudo lake]

I don’t like how it blocks ALL spotting abilities. Like Casper’s drone, paiks emg, even proxy nades. It shouldn’t counter the abilities of multiple specialists or proxy nades

[chilly jacinth]

[acoustic seal]

first time experiencing 2042 balancing?

[royal swan]

Speaking of the Casper drone it got a buff to destroy equipment

So you can counter blasco

[keen sinew]

can wait to kill those PS5 newbies

[next onyx]

I'm not sure how it effects paik but I know that Camilla is naturally immune to them.

[pseudo lake]

Oh that is cool

[next onyx]

Only way to spot a Camilla is through paiks fleshy spot perk and direct spot.

[royal swan]

Also it counters Irish tankers back of the map pussies

As the trophy system can be destroyed by the drone now

[pseudo lake]

All her teammates near her jammer no longer get spotted by her EMG scanner, so it renders paik’s entire ability completely useless. I don’t like the idea of camilla being able to do that

[next onyx]

Just blow a hole in the wall with c4 and kill everyone.

[dapper river]

All that time I spent targeting casper drones as rao finally pays off

Sometimes when I play casper, engineers waste an AA rocket to shoot me down. like bruh it's 10xp 💀

[next onyx]

Personally it doesn't bother me since I don't rely on passive spotting, just assume people are behind wall and send some xm370's through.

[low timber]

Or SPH

[next onyx]

Dude the randoms with the stingers on your drones are cracked.

Nvm the sundances with the homing bombs.

[low timber]

Thing deals 150 damage and extra 15 if it’s a direct hit

[dapper river]

Goddamn fucking sph, I hate it, I hate it
DICE PLS FIX

[pseudo lake]

True lol but I like to play as Recon and spot enemies for my team. With camilla spotting becomes kinda useless in choke points which is on a good portion of maps or like on breakthrough. I always used proxy nades but now it’s jammed

[next onyx]

Sph is obnoxious.

[low timber]

So even a Dozer survived a direct hit SPH with 10hp

[next onyx]

Dozer easily survives from sticky bomb but not a full barrage from xm370.

Dice please..

[pseudo lake]

IMO she shouldn’t be able to counter entire rival specialist abilities, or counter entire grenades (like proxy)

[royal swan]

Then you have no problem playing Casper and destroying equipment+spotting

[royal swan]

That's good

[low timber]

The sticky bomb has two shots so can’t survive a full barrage of SPH

[next onyx]

If she doesn't counter and people grasp onto that what's the point.

[dapper river]

How does a single shell even fire two grenades? and not two at once, but after two independent trigger pulls

[next onyx]

True but one is often enough.

Two is a waste.

[low timber]

BF4 had a similar grenade launcher but it could fire 3 grenades

Plus the stationary guns in the Final Stand DLC works with the same method

[pseudo lake]

I haven’t played with Casper yet since new update didn’t know his drone can destroy her equipment will have to try. I just got annoyed by her jamming and haven’t played since will try again later

[low timber]

I love the jammer

[hexed reef]

The drone does kill the jammer, not many people know that it actually takes out equipment lol

[royal swan]

Did the drone emp players

[pseudo lake]

I like the idea but if it’s radius is like half the size of objective that’s simply too big. Plus a specialist shouldn’t totally make another specialist like paik useless (especially if enemy have multiple camilla then paik is totally countered) and proxy nades seem like they may be countered but I will have to play more to see. I just don’t like how she counters so much doesn’t seem right

[royal swan]

I remember fondly that I could emp players with the drone

[keen sinew]

cuz they didnt mention on patch notes..?

[chilly jacinth]

i dont think many read the patch notes

[keen sinew]

I do btw

[chilly jacinth]

i dont

[keen sinew]

and I hate cheking all stealth patches by myself

[royal swan]

Make Rao hacking ability make enemy equipment friendly equipment

[spiral folio]

Or at least disable it

Except the jammer probably

Cause that doesnt compute

[keen sinew]

or destory it

[hexed reef]

Destroy me

[keen sinew]

Rao is trash right now and how dare people say pick Rao for teamplay

[pseudo lake]

Does Camila even counter being spotted by Soflam?

[keen sinew]

Yes

[low timber]

The jammer blocks even 3D spotting so…

[royal swan]

Vehicle users will say otherwise

[next onyx]

It's cool that it hides teammates signatures.

So people dunno if they're shooting at a medic or assault.

[spiral folio]

Oh no hold your fire it might be a specific type of enemy soldier!

[limpid pond]

Dice need to add the ability to have mvp for more than 1 thing

[keen sinew]

It is under 8 second disable for 2.5 pre dlay

[spiral folio]

Itd be bad if it wouldnt let you see if it was an ally and let you tk allies

[limpid pond]

Just had the most kills and revives once again and a dude with 41 kills gets mvp for most kills

[royal swan]

It also marks them like a soflam

[spiral folio]

Thatd be abused day1

[keen sinew]

FOR 2 seconds

[limpid pond]

Also I'm a falck main now

[keen sinew]

which value is really not worth for specialist

[pseudo lake]

Dang IMO she counters too much. She counters proxy nades, paiks emg, she counters Casper’s drone and Casper’s movement sensor gadget, soflam, and she buffs tanks and vehicles near her to prevent lock on. IMO that’s a little too much. While specialist like RAO can hardly do anything and she can block all spotting tech which includes entire rival specialist aviaries

*abilities

Well besides Casper being able to destroy it will have to try that

[keen sinew]

I rathe use Lis or other engies for couter vehicle

or mckay

[spiral folio]

Yea i use lis for vehicle hunting

[limpid pond]

I only every use mackay falck and paik

I don't use the engineer class at all

[keen sinew]

cuz it is bad in this state

[limpid pond]

I rarely use mackay though unless I want to get up on stuff to kill campers

[keen sinew]

Not so bad but

maybe we need more gadget for engies

[tranquil star]

Once again dice fucked the engineer class so no one uses it. While moaning about overpowered vehicles

They manage this every game

[spiral folio]

Yea that'd be another "i told you so" before the class nerfs

[keen sinew]

Why they nerfed Javelin + SOFLAM

[spiral folio]

Engineers should have tracer dart

[keen sinew]

we can lock on to vehicle behind hills since BF4

or BF3

[low timber]

BC2

Maybe even in BC1? Didn’t use the tracer dart much in BC1, so not sure.

[keen sinew]

BC2 had soflam?

i cant remember

[low timber]

Tracer Dart

[spiral folio]

Its dumb to have other classes tracer mark because only the engineer benefits from it

[low timber]

The Tracer Dart we have currently is from BC2 Portal

[keen sinew]

They made class system for "teamplay" thus that teamplay sucks compare to soloing specific specialist

[spiral folio]

Yea thats stupid cause like pretty sure previous games the engineers had it

[low timber]

Tracer Dart was an all class sidearm in BC2

[spiral folio]

I hate the very odea of like trying to force teamplay to happen by only giving people some of the pieces to the puzzle only they need

Itd be like needing a recon to open up the medical kits because theyre locked and oooonly recons have the key

Literally how stupid it is

[low timber]

And in BC1 the Dart was locked to the Specialist class that had also C4

[spiral folio]

So what REEAALLY happens is
Nobody uses it

[keen sinew]

maybe its time to move on to next BF

leaving Portal behind

[spiral folio]

Tracer should be a universal thing

Or like engineer freebie

Repair tool can go die

[keen sinew]

Or remake boris and crawford

why crawford is engie btw

[limpid pond]

Tbag gang

[keen sinew]

nice

[dapper night]

Or just go back to the BF4 Class System

[limpid pond]

A little appreciation for the tbag

[keen sinew]

im gonna use tbag charm

[spiral folio]

P4f had decent classes

[keen sinew]

forget for long while

[limpid pond]

Tbag charm gives you 10% skill boost

[keen sinew]

ture

[limpid pond]

100%

[keen sinew]

10% more movement speed and legit aimbot

[limpid pond]

Tbag charm has been known to turn the average player into a sweat instantly raising your kills per round by 10% and increasing your xp gain

[dapper night]

Not really I mean BF4, Hardline, 1 and V have a good engineer class

[limpid pond]

Tbag supremacy

[dapper night]

Hell even BF3 Engineer Class was good

[keen sinew]

like engie should be assults in bf1 or bfv

[tranquil star]

Not as good as the other classes. And that's clearly borne out by the distribution of players

[spiral folio]

I dont play suppprt cause i dont want idiots wanting me to rev.

Id like to get rid of the repair tool same reason

[hexed reef]

Tbag pregnancy

[dapper night]

Well because of the weapon restrictions take those out and we’ll see a equal results

[limpid pond]

Come here boi

[dapper night]

Imagine BF4 Engineer class but let’s you use AR

[tranquil star]

Yeah but that's the exact point, you can't just gloss over that. Weapon restrictions are part of the class

[keen sinew]

I mean who thought it is a good idea if assult has medpen and expolsive at same time

[dapper night]

So you’re complaining about the launcher damage which is the lowest compared to the other BF launchers

[keen sinew]

and give engie a rocket that doing tick damage for vehicle

[hexed dew]

Anyone here play on ps4? Is it horrible or not to bad?

[tranquil star]

Lmao no. I just said the class is bad

Nothing about the launchers specifically

[dapper night]

Let’s agree to disagree, the Class System was a step in the right direction. It just needed some tweaking especially the launchers

[tranquil star]

Honestly couldn't care less about the classes

[arctic grove]

Is it possible to turn voices off? I just want to only hear the sound effects

[pine roost]

2042 gets rid of angular damage and chooses to find a sweet spot right inbetween the lowest and highest values. Means you don’t have to consider angles so you do higher damage consistently, but having good positioning doesn’t reward you as much

[hexed reef]

ummm

[pine roost]

It’s the most forgiving launchers have been in a long while

With next to no projectile drop and a sight with accurate readings to boot

[tranquil star]

Just wish more people were incentivised to tackle vehicles instead of just getting farmed.

[dapper night]

Agreed this is why I still like BF4 Vehicle to infantry combat, iirc BF4 has some angular damage

[pine roost]

Yeah I was making the comparison specifically to 4

[dapper night]

Well people complain they don’t want to play Boris or Crawford because of their abilities and looks

[pine roost]

But that game had more oppressive tanks and better infantry movement to balance things out. I don’t mind angular bonuses

[hexed dew]

Anyone here on ps4?

[tranquil star]

Yes and they need to sort that imo

[pine roost]

Since you have the potential to do bigger damage if you are in the right place with good aim.

[hexed reef]

99% pc

[dapper night]

I mean if DICE reworks Boris and Crawford to better synergy with the Engineer Class are people going to still complain?

[pine roost]

Although full on ricochets are just annoying. A flat damage value it can reach at a minimum, say 18 or so, would be a middle ground

[dapper night]

If they do they just admit that they don’t want to play the Engineer class

[keen sinew]

And it is a problem that assult with c5 is better soltuion for this state than "anti vehicle class" engie when having good position

[dapper night]

Especially the Anti-Class brigade on EA forum

[pine roost]

At this point in the game’s life I doubt they’ll rework either of them

[tranquil star]

Um I don't know????? Kind of question is that? Have to do A B testing to see if reworking them increased participation on engi classes

[keen sinew]

which can fly though tanks roof

[dapper night]

That’s why I suggested to DICE to remove C5 from the Assault and buff the launchers

[hexed reef]

Jeep stuff

[keen sinew]

And some weird man said "assult gadget should be kill people"

[pine roost]

All the Gustav really needs is a reload reduction to be more potent

[keen sinew]

like why?

[dapper night]

Only if they knew

[fervent rose]

i mean depending on the game thats battlefield

[dapper night]

Must be coming from BF1 and BFV assault players

[fervent rose]

have you played bf3 in current year

defibs? haha gl

[pine roost]

Bf4 grenade launchers say hello

[fervent rose]

the gl stands for grenade launcher (and good luck)

[dapper night]

Cuz BF4,3 and BC2’s Assault have different roles

[keen sinew]

BF1 and BFV's assult was anti vehicle

like engie in bf4 and 2042

[dapper night]

Yep that’s why there’s wasn’t a Engineer class however there’s a engineer class in 1 (sort of) the Pilot Class

[clever marlin]

Actually

Does the explosive launcher damage transport helis?

[keen sinew]

yes

[dapper night]

Yep

[keen sinew]

and inside of that

[clever marlin]

Interesting

[fervent rose]

bfv had that too. double repairs from the vehicle dudes

[dapper night]

You mean the emergency repair? Although you don’t repair fully when you’re in the tank

[fervent rose]

no i mean tanker class / pilot class get a buffed repair

the manual tool

[arctic grove]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1003428984194859059/1081941253530329208/MAV.png Every f*****g time i drive a MAV to a capture point

[fervent rose]

they even nerfed it because of how you could solo rep your tank so fast

[sour steeple]

flashpoint bt design is beyond trash. left and right zero cover for attackers.

[dapper night]

Speaking of which the Sps Launcher + Zain gives me PTSD on Argonne Forest in BF1

[sour steeple]

and mountains everywhere

[keen sinew]

"get out all of you" hotkeys should exists

[fervent rose]

the MAV having 0 passenger only seats is bad design

[dapper night]

Like the explosive spam in this game

Although it’s not BF1 level “YET”

[fervent rose]

same with hind/condor also kind of, the repair seats dont count as passenger seats

[arctic grove]

Get out hot key does exist but useless team mates dont listen

[keen sinew]

for real?

[arctic grove]

100%

[keen sinew]

that exists?

[grand gulch]

blasco jammer spam will even out once everyone gets tier 1 for her and go back to their mains

[arctic grove]

Yeah they do

[fervent rose]

get out and get in are both on the comm rose

[grand gulch]

I was pretty malded as Casper before I found out the drone can emp the jammer

[keen sinew]

i mean get out is physically get outted

[fervent rose]

of course that doesnt exist lmao

[keen sinew]

thats unfortunate

[grand gulch]

Jammer and tugs is free points, Zerg, place, die, Zerg, place, die again.

[keen sinew]

i mean Planetside 2 had one

[dapper night]

Doesn’t Battlefield 2 have that?

[fervent rose]

like in a perfect world you could force paradrop people but also bf players would grief each other

[kindred flint]

It was nice of them to make the emp charge actually destroy electronics now

[fervent rose]

bf players are quite the opposite of Squad style players, despite so many people insisting that "teamplay" is the most important thing for dice to focus on

[keen sinew]

I was wondering why emp cant destory spawn beacon back then

[dapper night]

I mean it depends on how teamplay was implemented “BF4 and BFV” had tons of teamplay

[fervent rose]

meh it was mostly zerging around

any "teamplay" was just friend group stacking

[dapper night]

In BF4 instead of Assault’s having medpen they have medpouches

Which I kinda miss ngl

[serene pawn]

Did they mess up with the servers? Can't find a full match anymore and apparently PC players are back on the roster

[acoustic seal]

the "teamplay" in bfv was forcibly taking ammo off of support players because they were too stupid to drop it themselves

[keen sinew]

instant healing med crate

[keen sinew]

turn on crossplay plz

[dapper night]

Still work in the end

[fervent rose]

yea they actually had to add the hardline feature to get ammo/medpacks from medics and support

because players are so bad at teamplay

bf players are inattentive and selfish

[dapper night]

I liked the system idk why they removed it in this game

[acoustic seal]

you could replace them with a bot or a static ammo spawn and it would work exactly the same, that's not "teamwork"

[fervent rose]

it's not "removed" the game was rushed

they have to make the feature again

[grand gulch]

They should up dozers explosion res and make him an engineer

[fervent rose]

they cant copy paste haha

[serene pawn]

LoL, you guys always copy and paste the same response anytime someone says they can't find a full lobby. What makes you believe I'm not playing with crossplay on? Did you even read when I said "PC players back on the roster"?

[dapper night]

But still it crates a “unintentional teamplay”

[acoustic seal]

the fact that the static ammo spawn is a real person doesn't suddenly make it a good interaction

[grand gulch]

Or give him cooldown armor like battery in black ops III

[teal hound]

HELP

[dapper night]

Better than nothing

[teal hound]

Battlefield 1 server error

[keen sinew]

then this game is dead i guess

[limpid pond]

mav campers are the worse

[serene pawn]

Anywhere outside US it's been dead since launch

[fervent rose]

why is the MAV still on rush maps

[limpid pond]

its even worse for a transport heli and hind

[acoustic seal]

because it's either an issue with crossplay off or something on dice's end you can't fix

[fervent rose]

that shit is obnoxious

[keen sinew]

then why are you ask about that if you already know much lol

[teal hound]

You have lost connection to EA servers. I am getting this error on BF1 PC

[hexed reef]

12 hours done yay

[dapper night]

Welp DICE needs to understand that not “Every Maps” needs access to all vehicle types

[wide shore]

The fixed the crossplay thing before I got a chance to give it a go

[hexed reef]

Now I can waste my money on ea

[wide shore]

Damn

[grand gulch]

Hey look me in the eyes

[shell ermine]

See that they fixed crossplay, well game is unfun again

[limpid pond]

what crossplay thing?

[grand gulch]

Don’t whale

Don’t do it

[acoustic seal]

imagine a world without snap AA controller players https://i.imgflip.com/1f5v6z.jpg

[keen sinew]

PC and console was separated

[dapper night]

Is it the 64 conquest?

[limpid pond]

oh word? when?

[fervent rose]

i wish they would look at previous breakthrough 64 or Rush 64. i sure dont remember any flying tanks

[spiral folio]

If i could whale a 2042 equivalent of the bf1 tank hunter i would

[keen sinew]

for one or two days

[acoustic seal]

they were loading console players into 128 lobbies and pc players into 64 lobbies, accidentally separating crossplay

[limpid pond]

weird i didnt notice it. ove been at work the past 3 days

[wide shore]

For a bit the flashpoint conquest was putting only console players in. Cause PC had their own server for 64p CQ on flashpoint.

[shell ermine]

Its funny, I saw almost no one using the new SMG when crossplay was broken because it honestly isn't that good on controllers, now that crosssplay is "fixed" its all I see

[limpid pond]

oh thats why i dont like the new map

[dapper night]

Agree they needed to get rid of the Transport Heli weapons and give them mini guns only or nerf them

[keen sinew]

have fun with 1080 rpm 22 dmg

[limpid pond]

well lets me rephrase i dont like the new map for rush or breakthrough

[spiral folio]

Transports main issue is they need to lower the durability or agility it cant have both

[wooden wigeon]

who still plays this game

[keen sinew]

it was not that broken considering spread

[fervent rose]

it shouldnt exist as a flying splash damage dealer

[limpid pond]

dont argue with him. hes the degen of the server that says the same shit even though its not true

[fervent rose]

make minigunning the main damage and its okay. they have to aim

[keen sinew]

lol

[limpid pond]

dudes actually annoying

[spiral folio]

Yea its a flying tank that acts as a spawn point

[wide shore]

Quite a good bit

[keen sinew]

durablility is fine

[wide shore]

Not a good one either cause people just sit in it.

[keen sinew]

but it reminds me a heavy bomber in bf1

[spiral folio]

Its a good one. You cant judge the power of a vehicle based on occasional misuse

[radiant prism]

Yeah transports definitely need a nerf, as much as I love the concept of it

[wide shore]

There’s no reason to use the transports as transports because they’re not transports. They’re gunships with 4x the health.

[grand gulch]

People usually just beam you if you jump out

[fervent rose]

yea the "spawn point" thing is awful, full hind crews block spawns

i hate their design so much

[keen sinew]

like I said

forced "get out" button should be exists

[wide shore]

Transport helis should have slightly less health. No main gun. And should allow spawns on it when it’s full. Like the CAV Brawler.

Then it would be a true transport heli

[spiral folio]

Transport goes over. 10 people drop down all over the place and set up spawners. Meanwhile even if you nail it 4 times with rockets... it flies away behind your own lines and repairs. Does it all over again

[radiant prism]

I would agree with the other stuff, but not the allow spawns thing. That should only be a thing for ground vehicles.

[spiral folio]

I'm pretty good at killing em. And it takes a frigin ton of work

[dapper night]

Funny to think that a game like 2142 that is set in the feature doesn’t have 2042’s armaments on their transport heli

[fervent rose]

znath you are good at killing the bad pilots

[spiral folio]

2142 is near?

[fervent rose]

the full crews dont die

[shell ermine]

BFV is better because it doesn't have transport aircraft

[spiral folio]

I kill both

[dapper night]

Future*

[keen sinew]

the end of bf is near for sure

[shell ermine]

Helps maps maintain a frontline of combat

[fervent rose]

and if they do die, they wait ~2 minutes and go again

[spiral folio]

2142 is distant future

[wide shore]

More seats inside then. Cause rn there’s no point in using it as a spawn point. It’s almost always full because it’s a killing machine with a whole crew. Which is not what it should be.

[fervent rose]

you get very little reward for taking them out

[dapper night]

2142 doesn’t features a OP transport heli

[limpid pond]

I'm the ultimate pilot killer

[spiral folio]

Yea like i generally aim cockpit csuse the reward potential is high

[keen sinew]

what the

[shell ermine]

Players played differently back when 2142 was new too

[keen sinew]

nice shot

[spiral folio]

Sometime the people can swap into the pilot seats

Just depends

[shell ermine]

It was really BC2 that introduced the transport heli death machines to the series

[wide shore]

How tf

That pilot must’ve been on deaths door

[fervent rose]

but at least they fully allowed you to shoot down all of the players in it

you could as the infantry kill the gunner

[limpid pond]

Watch the clip. Had a lmg loser spraying him down

[fervent rose]

bc2 helis were not as op as current ones

[radiant prism]

You can at least kill pilots but its difficult

[wide shore]

Yeah… fuck LMG players.

[limpid pond]

That why he start to run away

[radiant prism]

I've wiped a Hind with an M60 before lol

[spiral folio]

You miss every shot you dont take
-wayne gretzky

• michael scott

[radiant prism]

Shots? I should do shots right now

[limpid pond]

I was just tryna headshot but nope he was to weak

[wide shore]

Yeah, maybe. But they could only be locked on with a tracer dart. And all they gotta do is flare.

[limpid pond]

[arctic grove]

MAVs are designed to move in a point and capture. Only time MAV campers should exist is on Breakthrough

[fervent rose]

they were definitely strong. but nothing compared to bf2 launch black hawks or 2042's gunships

[wide shore]

BC2 transports though, definitely much less annoying.

[coral veldt]

The mav is too slow

[dapper night]

For real even playing with a full squad on the transport heli in Guilin Peak way back in BF4, we still got demolished by a few engineer players

[radiant prism]

gatorade should be thicker

[spiral folio]

Lis rockets could autoaim into locked targets thatd be usefuk sometime

[wooden wigeon]

Maybe. I'm really not into futuristic wars, I'm more into WW1/WW2 era, but talking about this game... It's really overrated. It's not good, as older BF games.

[spiral folio]

Future games get weird bogus balancing more

Ie the railgun not 1 hit killing because uh...

[limpid pond]

I know what mavs are designed for. They're able to go drive on water and later as a armored troop transport. They should add a kick crew button for people inna may for to long

[wide shore]

I do too.

It not being good is just your opinion which is fine. But the game definitely isn’t overrated lol

[fervent rose]

future games also struggle to make guns as cool as regular modern guns. at least they struggle in sound design

[spiral folio]

Nah its ok just a 2000m/s thing hit me byt ill be fine

[dapper night]

This is why “modern setting” is still the best

[spiral folio]

Modern STILL gets bogus balancing

Because modern combat isnt actually fun

[limpid pond]

Well yeah you have to create a new sound from.scratch

[spiral folio]

Lotta fire and forget

[dapper night]

Compared to near future?

[radiant prism]

Its almost like balance generally takes precedent in video games

[spiral folio]

The older the era the less bs there tends to be

[radiant prism]

And that a purely realistic video game would be boring

[wide shore]

This is why BF 6 needs to be Cold War.

[shell ermine]

WW2 is a much better setting for Battlefield because it's easier to balance without having helicopters and lock on weapons

[fervent rose]

900 rpm mini explosions are better than zap zap zap

future games gotta figure that out

[spiral folio]

The most bs adjustment for bf1 id say is poison gas

[dapper night]

With Classes from the start and BFV’s customization

[spiral folio]

Cause you just tap mask

[keen sinew]

How about vietnam again

[wide shore]

Yes.

[radiant prism]

Vietnam is too restrictive of a setting

Needs to be cold war in general

[wide shore]

Cold War encompasses Vietnam while not restricting it solely to that time

[dapper night]

Give me Bad Company 3

[keen sinew]

yes agree

[radiant prism]

Cold war gone lukewarm would be cool

[arctic grove]

Definitely dice needs to add. kick crew button

[coral veldt]

Lock driver for medic drivers

[dapper night]

Give us Cold War gone hot like the World in Conflict

[spiral folio]

Most "modern" and future combat games effectively use vietnam levels of tech

[fervent rose]

I just want a "modern" shooter with urban maps. And absolutely no verticality gadgets

[coral veldt]

Mechs

[wide shore]

Just make the game like Black Ops 1

[radiant prism]

From a lore perspective though

You need a reason in a Cold War scenario that nukes weren't just used instantly

[mental delta]

No specialists gadgets would be perfect for the next game

[wide shore]

M.A.D

[keen sinew]

btw i didn't head any leaks of new BF

[radiant prism]

Otherwise you end up with Black Ops Cold War, where nothing makes sense

[keen sinew]

are they try to make that?

[spiral folio]

Yea like how nukes literally havent been used is one example

[dapper night]

I mean is the Word in Conflict

[radiant prism]

If war broke out, nukes would've been used.

[wide shore]

Yes. But bending history a bit wouldn’t be the worst thing

[radiant prism]

Thats why MAD worked. Taking the Cold War hot would've required nukes

Meaning they would have to figure that out

I'm not against the idea, it sounds super cool

[fervent rose]

i dont care about specialists or not. they just need to be battlefield abilities rather than stuff that completely breaks map design with mackay/sundance.

[radiant prism]

I just want it to make logical sense lol

[keen sinew]

Sounds like Levolution

[wide shore]

Having a setting between modern war and WWII, gives people the best of both worlds.

[radiant prism]

Or at least enough to suspend my disbelief

[dapper night]

It’s BS leak and if the leak is happening it would be shitstorm but much more worse plus end of Battlefield

[radiant prism]

Imagine listening to leaks

[fervent rose]

that "leak" was so wack

[dapper night]

Well we already have that, it’s called Battlefield 4

[keen sinew]

okay

[wide shore]

Cool, unique guns of the era. Early jets and helicopters. Cool mid 20th century technology. It would be so cool

[dapper night]

BF4 have the best perks and abilities

[radiant prism]

And no lockon spam :)

[fervent rose]

i dont care for bf4 perks at all

[mental delta]

Specialist gadgets don't fit in BF games to me, no matter they're about verticality or not

[spiral folio]

There's really no unique interesting guns between like vietnam to today cause theyre literally the guns weve been using the whole time

[fervent rose]

the main problem with 2042 is the bad maps

[wide shore]

And an excuse to bring napalm to the series. And bring back flamethrowers.

[keen sinew]

Good luck with AA airbursts

[dapper night]

It’s not just that

[fervent rose]

the main problem

[spiral folio]

The m16s served for like 60 years

[wide shore]

Yeah but they’re early iterations without all the modularity.

[dapper night]

I could list alot of problems especially the lore

[fervent rose]

i know theres more, but the biggest, most clear cut problem is the map design and maps

and mackay fucks it

[spiral folio]

So less freedom less options... woo fun

[keen sinew]

the map was main problem

[fervent rose]

and i mostly play mackay so im not a "whiner"

its just what happened

[wide shore]

Sometimes too much freedom isn’t good for balance

[keen sinew]

128 players sounds cool, but at what cost?

[wide shore]

As we’ve seen

[spiral folio]

Only thing the original m16s had was horrible hardware and full auto which nobody used

[dapper night]

The lore 2042 is about No-pats or so called mercenaries fighting each other yet we’re fighting clones of each other

[dapper night]

Don’t forget it removes game readability

[spiral folio]

There's a reason it was phased out

[radiant prism]

Honestly there's less cloning going on than previous games

Like all of BF1's French medics having that mustache

[wide shore]

Then use the M14.

[radiant prism]

If people are bitching about that they're nitpicking

[fervent rose]

you never saw the same people from your team on the enemy team

thats the "clone" problem

[keen sinew]

what is that, Valorant?

[wide shore]

I’ve never really cared about that tbqh

[fervent rose]

2042 needed a second set of specialists that were copycats

[spiral folio]

Yea if you dont like the relic from the 60s
Use an artifact from ww2

[dapper night]

Agreed especially with Faction skins hell even in BFV have faction exclusive skins

[wide shore]

I don’t really pay attention to the faces of the people I kill.

[keen sinew]

but it is nitpicking considering there are much problems than that

[grand gulch]

That’s too much work to make factions that have the same characters mechanically

[spiral folio]

I wouldnt mind a m1 but theyre not worth the price people want

[fervent rose]

its not nitpicking to want visually unique models on each side

thats basic fps stuff

[coral veldt]

???

[spiral folio]

Of a m14 same thing basically

[radiant prism]

Which is why classes should come back, with faction specific cosmetics.

[dapper night]

But they could delayed the game from the start to work that

[coral veldt]

Name ten games where every player has a different model

[radiant prism]

They could still sell packs (that I would 100% buy) and we get more factional stuff.

[fervent rose]

every game ever? it doesnt have to be a unique model, halo does red vs blue

[charred stag]

For jets should I use radar or air to ground missiles?

[radiant prism]

I already customize my specialists based on faction anyways

[coral veldt]

That's just colors my boy

[grand gulch]

delay = shareholders and middle managers and executives all smash your nuts

[fervent rose]

colors matter "my boy"

[dapper night]

Call of Duty also

[wide shore]

ATG probably.

[radiant prism]

ATGMs. Guns should suffice for dealing with aircraft

[charred stag]

Alright

[dapper night]

Call of Duty have factions with different skins depending on the faction you play

[keen sinew]

we do have color btw

black and red for enemy?

[fervent rose]

Yes we do have a tiny little light

[coral veldt]

Yeah 2042 has different colors

[dapper night]

You cannot play as Captain Price in the RU side

[fervent rose]

green vs red lights

[radiant prism]

Yeah color is a moot point considering color is a thing in 2042

[radiant prism]

Problem that CoD runs into though is it puts operators where it doesn't make sense

[spiral folio]

Bf5 was close
Bf heroes
Play4free
Team fortress
Pokemon (every version)
Runescape
World of warcraft
Well every mmorpg really so thats well beyond 10

[arctic grove]

2042 has specialist no pats but fights for a country

[coral veldt]

Man said wow

[wide shore]

But according to the lore, the characters are mercs, basically. With no real allegiance. Unless that’s changed I haven’t kept up

[keen sinew]

lmao

[radiant prism]

Like americans fighting for russians in a Nato vs. Russia conflict

[coral veldt]

Fps

Pvp

[spiral folio]

Do i have to list every mmo ever?

World of tanks
World pf warships

[fervent rose]

i dont need to list every fps game

you can just name 10 for yourself

[dapper night]

Well yea but least it has specific operator for specific faction

[spiral folio]

Tons of games have unique models and customization

[fervent rose]

its that simple

[arctic grove]

DICE shoulda changed US to NATO on all European based maps

[keen sinew]

they could implement multi universe or something at this point lol

you know, by hurricane or whatever

[coral veldt]

Agree to disagree I guess 2042 isn't an mmo

[fervent rose]

it's just a mediocre fps game

[coral veldt]

And has been developed for a fraction of the time

[arctic grove]

DICE really need content. More guns, skins, maps, shit to sell us. COD does a great job in providing quantity

[dapper night]

Ummmm

[coral veldt]

Just play enlisted it's free

[keen sinew]

after changing plans from battle royale

[radiant prism]

Honestly there's plenty of skins

Like I'm worried about the money I've spent LOL

[wide shore]

Not lately

[mystic pike]

Dice should reboot BF1 with bots

[radiant prism]

I love 2042s' skins for the most part

[coral veldt]

I keep hearing people say hazard zone is fun...

[arctic grove]

1 map and 2 weapons and 1 vehicle isnt quantity

[radiant prism]

Enlisted plays like ass, I'm sorry lol

[fervent rose]

Enlisted is fucking awful

[dapper night]

He means CoD

[arctic grove]

At this point id pay 15-20 bucks for 4 maps guns and skins

[wide shore]

Yuh

[fervent rose]

I played it for a few hours. It's just shooting at bots that dont react

wack ass game

[dapper night]

CoD S2 has one new map and a map that was removed in the beta

[fervent rose]

2042 bots are LIGHT YEARS better than enlisted

[arctic grove]

I have to agree
MW1 had more content than mw2

[dapper night]

For 6v6

[coral veldt]

Nah enlisted is fun

[fervent rose]

Okay

[coral veldt]

Aka free

[wide shore]

Especially when they’re in vehicles. Good lord

[fervent rose]

i dont need to play free trash

[dapper night]

“Live Service baby!!”

[coral veldt]

2042 bots are just faster enlisted bots they're still trash

[arctic grove]

https://tenor.com/view/act-man-modern-gaming-gif-25520503

[dapper night]

At this point give me premium

[wide shore]

I don’t want to pay for maps that’ll be dead in a few months.

[grand gulch]

people like bots in 2042 they’re assholes

[arctic grove]

Exactly but coomer teens in high school moan and cry they have no money instead of working part time or cutting grass for a few bucks

[coral veldt]

The fake out revives

[dapper night]

Make them payable through in game grinding (in-game currency) or real money