battlefield-2042

[fervent rose]

you can barely push past your obj with the tight boundary limits and you spawn half a mile from where you need to defend. its not fun

[stable sail]

Oh you're also on a hill with no cover and you gotta run down in order to get to the obj?

Awesome.

More of that.

[jagged bolt]

balans

best map design

[turbid geode]

the B1 spawn is on C1 and it's far af

[jagged bolt]

idk whos worse rn on map design, Gaijin or Dice

[buoyant trail]

👍

[stable sail]

Honestly tho - Biggest issue I see... 99999999% of the time

No smokes

LIterally 1 other persont han me is throwing smokes

[spiral folio]

I wish it would put allies on both flags.

I hate how like it spawns EVERYONE on A1 manifest and then the enemy all goes to A2 because it's empty

On BT

[stable sail]

Just give me 24/7 Rush XL

I'll stop complaining forever

[jagged bolt]

idk i thought rush XL was too hectic

[stable sail]

Actually made me wanna play the game

[buoyant trail]

A2 is stinky obviously

[stable sail]

Rush XL ez 150-175 kills on foot

[spiral folio]

I also hate spawning on the gd frontline with my sniper

[fervent rose]

i would like them to try 64 and 96 rush instead of just putting 128 back in over and over

[jagged bolt]

i just thought playing it that there was TOO much going on

[stable sail]

if you ever got camped in your spawn by some reco throwing c5

that was me

running into your spawn*

[buoyant trail]

Bringback grand operations

[stable sail]

grand rush xl

[turbid geode]

recon's that don't place spawn beacons

[jagged bolt]

i second this, they were so much fun in BF1 and BF5

[stable sail]

psh i had to place spawn beacons

so I could rush back into the other teams spawn

lmao

[wide shore]

Finally got the new LMG let’s gooo

[spiral folio]

Fuck spawn beacons

[stable sail]

New LMG is the 6.8mm AR 😉

[spiral folio]

Like recons get dumb shit all the time

[stable sail]

Recon is tied for most broken class

[spiral folio]

"Heres a beacon so you can have people spawn in your sniping spot and ruin it"

Recon has all the worst specialists

[stable sail]

Worst at being dicks yeah

[jagged bolt]

medic seems really good, being able to have both heals and ammo playing as falack

[spiral folio]

Recon is so bad
They almost made boris a recon

[stable sail]

Medic is broken

After they put fucking the 1 tank specialist into medic

wont ever forgive nor forget that

lol

[jagged bolt]

all i play as is falack because im just self sufficient. i dont even use smgs as medic that often now because i can just replenish my own ammo

[buoyant trail]

The amount of blind motherfuckers who run past enemy spawn beacons and tugs set in capture points is amazing

[spiral folio]

If i snipe i use lis cause all the recons suck

[stable sail]

ABSOLUTELY

[jagged bolt]

lemme guess you dont even use a rifle, you just make missile go brrrr straight into someones forehead

[stable sail]

Paik, Rao, and Brasco should all just be Engis

[spiral folio]

I use the railgun

And then i use the rocket

If i can't get a sniper with the rail, i mark the location and launch a rocket

[buoyant trail]

Like this is why we're losing points so fast holy shit you goblin brains bonus points for BT when the enemy transport is hovering over a point and nobody shoots at it

[stable sail]

are u me

[spiral folio]

I havent played a lot with the horribly nerfed lis rockets

They suck though

[stable sail]

Not nerfed

Reverted insane buff

[spiral folio]

Badly nerfed

Nope

Theyre way worse

[buoyant trail]

Its hilarious to pop a sniper with a recoilless

[spiral folio]

Dude try em

[stable sail]

theyre not lol

i have

[spiral folio]

Ues they are

The turn rate is about 1/3 of what it was BEFORE the 600m byff

[stable sail]

cap

[spiral folio]

Yea theyre ass now

Like the 600m + turn rate buff was op

But the 465 - turn rate sucks ass

[stable sail]

i love to see a bush wookie assault recon pushing with the 50 cal red dot

[buoyant trail]

[stable sail]

I agree but its still balanced right now

Turn rate has been slightly nerfed from before

But the buff was broken

[spiral folio]

The problem is like the 450m +ok turn rate you could loop a bit and turn sharp

The 475 with ass turn rate makes it harder to thrn down and hit a target. So effectively its shorter range

[stable sail]

Looping is the problem

[spiral folio]

The max effective range is drastically down because you cant turn in sooner

[stable sail]

make sure your fucking shot hits lol

[buoyant trail]

At least im not getting corner shot by lis anymore

[stable sail]

idk man i tank whore a lot too

i'm behind hella cover

I'm still getting hit around corners

from good players

its definitely more skilled

even when trying it

[spiral folio]

Nah like before at the 450 range one you could fire from cover and like 120deg turn and find a target.

With the 475 nerf you wont make it

[stable sail]

360 degree turn*

[spiral folio]

So you have to fire from less cover to go further

I dont mean 360 i said 120

[stable sail]

i mean 360

[spiral folio]

Because 120 is not 360

[stable sail]

lol

[buoyant trail]

No more lis pussy shots from total cover

[stable sail]

Before the buff

[buoyant trail]

[stable sail]

It was insane

Turn rate was still insane

lol

They could go through the entire tunnel at Nordvik

The one between C1 and C2

joking but that's basically the caliber i was dealing w/

[spiral folio]

Well like scenario 1.
Eneny sniper on you. You find a tall wall to hide so you cant fire directly at him. At most you can fire 90 degrees from the target

With the 450 range + good turn rate you could fire 90-120 deg off target loop around toward the enemy and hit within 400m

With the 475m range and shit turn rate you would have to fire 90 deg and slow turn toward them and by the time you're turned your range is like 200m

AND its slower

And the hitbox is bigger

[stable sail]

idk man 120 degree off target behind full cover is a problem

[proud gorge]

New specialist T1 is so easy

[stable sail]

esp when every. one. is. running. lis

[spiral folio]

The 600m one you could literally fire 180 degrees off target, loop vertically fly toeard the enemy 500m away and hit

[stable sail]

We're not going to agree on the turning radius being needed to be reverted lol

[spiral folio]

To get the full 475m range you'd have to shoot literally exactly at a target

[stable sail]

Sure if its a huge problem slight reversion

but it was a problem lol

for the other side

[acoustic seal]

nerf lis missile until it's gone from the game honestly

[stable sail]

full reversion pre patch nah

[acoustic seal]

never should've given infantry a TV missile

[spiral folio]

It should go to the 450m setting. It was fine with that range and that turn rate

600m was too much

475 and shit turn rate is a joke

[spiral folio]

Welcome to bf1

No guided bullshit and no invulnerable helicopters

[buoyant trail]

It shouldnt have be a recharging tv missile with inf ammo

[acoustic seal]

mortars, gas grenades, sniper sweet spots, and other explosive spam:

[spiral folio]

If you wanna open the realism box...
Ive got ideas too

[buoyant trail]

Gas mask gameplay

[acoustic seal]

i played some bf1 half an hour ago, it made me want to die

[spiral folio]

1 hit kill rocket hits on all flying units

Antitank rifles killing through concrete walls

Explosive 20mm rounds for the ntw

Depleted uranium ones too

[buoyant trail]

Id be fine with bullet pen it would make the ntw worth it

[spiral folio]

(Tim allen grunt)

Ouurr arrrr arhhhh

[buoyant trail]

Or give better use for AP ammo

[spiral folio]

Yea as it stands now the ntw is pretty useless

Theyve dumbed it down to a close range funpopper

[buoyant trail]

Lemme wallbang corner campers through the drywall that is apparently immune to explosives

[spiral folio]

20mm should be busting inch wide holes in the wrecked ship hulls and flying effortlessly through container walls

[buoyant trail]

It'd make paik be a meta specialist tho

Wallhack and just mow down a held flag

[copper ice]

sounds good to me

why is BF of all games having indestructible dry wall

[spiral folio]

With how short duration that is though and how slow that gun is even if you could shoot through walls how many shots would you get

[buoyant trail]

Unless they changed her gadget to be a mobile tugs

[copper ice]

https://i.imgur.com/doeBY0N.jpeg

average squad composition

[buoyant trail]

If they allowed ap rounds to penetrate as well like we all know they should i mean

[spiral folio]

My dream realistic gun would be a 14.5mm snipex rifle and shoot through walls

My dream fantasy weapon would be an Akira laser

[copper ice]

the AP ammo description even says it boosts penetration

[spiral folio]

I dunno if alex is trolling when he says the ntw is 20mm cause it acts like a .50cal

Or acts like what battlefield thinks a 50cal is

[charred horizon]

Anyone else being joined into empty lobbies with less than 15 people in?

[spiral folio]

Compared to real damage it does damage like a handgun

[limber orbit]

I guess it depends on the nwt 20

[copper ice]

yeah

it does dogshit damage to vehicles for sure

[spiral folio]

Well the irl one is the ntw20 as in 20mm

So it stands to reason ntw50 would be.. .50

Yea 20mm to an engine would probably 100% penetrate the entire engine

Aluminum block vs 20mm. Yea thats done

Battlefield tho
-hit unarmored toyota truck-
10 damage

[copper ice]

all the primary weapons do almost nothing to vehicles even modded for that

i dumped a full AP mag of LCMG into a transport heli

it was like 6 damage

[spiral folio]

Hit a truck with an AP antivehicke rocket designed for tanks
"Ah geez 50% damage"

[copper ice]

i hit it with a 40mm HE nade and that did about 15

a fucking HE nade

if you want to go vehicle hunting you should just take SFAR and spam UBGL

does drastically more damage

[turbid geode]

this is why I run AP GL on SFAR

good AR with good AP

[copper ice]

UBGL is insanely versatile right now

[green bough]

I mean under that logic everything in battlefield should be as realistic as possible so then why dont all weapons have a one shot potential

[copper ice]

AP UBGL has higher DPS against vehicles than almost anything else

roll up to a tank with crawford and bust out the UBGL instead of the m5 because the fucking nade launcher is more damage than the rocket

[proven obsidian]

Any news/words for Exodus 64p coming back on PC ?

[copper ice]

not while theres a new map

[proven obsidian]

alright, kinda sad to purposefully wait a game mode every time i want to play

thanks mate

[turbid geode]

pov: you just got stuck by the SPH

[spiral folio]

Now you're getting it

[arctic grove]

Anywhere I can send a clip my mate took?

It was a cool helicopter evac I did

[spiral folio]

So when some idiot pulls the "daaaah lis shouldnt have reganaratang rakets" like ooh you want realism huh

[limber orbit]

what about sundance then? xD

regen them nades

[spiral folio]

I had a sundance fly straight at me once

Bet they learned their lesson

Like straight at me

[turbid geode]

ac9 is insane

[buoyant trail]

Bad sundance

[turbid geode]

most defending team's on Stranded are getting absolutely rolled

[hollow mural]

hi

[buoyant trail]

Cause most breakthrough players dont understand you have to be on the point to hold it not trying to cqc the enemy

[spiral folio]

I generally avoid flags and send bullets to visit them instead

[torn socket]

Hello! Does anyone know if there is a patch or fix for the 100% CPU usage that has occurred after the season 4 patch? The game just crashes as soon as my CPU usage hit 100%. (Which has NEVER happened before until this patch and I've been playing since launch.)

[spiral folio]

Get bigger computer brain

Or lower settings

[torn socket]

I can't even get to the menus...it's not my computer, as I said above.

[spiral folio]

Its assuredly you related in some way

Cause if it was a fundamental flaw in the game everyone would be here right now with the same issue

Id recommend checking your graphics driver

[torn socket]

My CPU exceeds the requirements for the game.

[frail sparrow]

whats the cpu

[spiral folio]

This update caused an issue there

[torn socket]

I updated to the latest Nvidia driver just a few days ago.

It's an i7 8700k

[spiral folio]

Id double check
I clicked to update and the dumb thing downloaded the driver
But didnt install it

[torn socket]

i7 8700k as I said I've been playing since launch and this has NEVER happened before. Only after I downloaded the Season 4 patch.

[spiral folio]

Yea thats why i said double check your gfx driver make sure it updated

[torn socket]

I'll dbl check it now

[frail sparrow]

why would his gfx driver update fix his cpu issue though?

[spiral folio]

Things like to let you down if you let them

[torn socket]

...and the only background software running that is High usage is ICUE for my Corsair peripherals.

It was also suggested to delete the cache folder stuff, which I also did.

[still vault]

CPU running 100% is to be expected with 6 cores. The crash is the issue.

[torn socket]

Suggestions?

I'm just curious how all of a sudden it's happening after the Season 4 patch and never once before.

and also no other game

[still vault]

Had some crashes myself. Just standard troubleshooting really. Repair, delete shader cache, reinstall EAC, DDU graphics driver.

[torn socket]

I did the repair already and nadda. How would I do the rest?

[rocky kraken]

Prayer

[arctic grove]

Any news about a possible spectator mode?

I'd love a spectator mode

[kindred flint]

why did i even attempt to que into a flashpoint match...team could only hold E1 and C1 for about 5 seconds before losing C ..i cant simultaneously defend E and capture something else sadly

oh well first match of the day i had to back out from in about 3 mins

[still vault]

humans are imperfect, thus matches will be too

[upbeat sand]

Hola

[arctic grove]

Hola beanie

[upbeat sand]

Hola

[limber orbit]

dood i am liking the RM68

[kindred flint]

you mean a lvl 40 BP weapon is op?

[silk surge]

I can't decide if Spearhead or Exposure is my favourite 2042 map. They're both god-tier.

[patent prism]

I have yet to even encounter the RM68 in a match, but my god I want it.

[next onyx]

It's powerful but gonna need a while to test it.

[drowsy shuttle]

Hola juanita

Bale

[kindred flint]

god damn kale is such a huge map with nothing going on between caps

[patent prism]

Kale?

[arctic grove]

Kaleidoscope

[patent prism]

Ah

[arctic grove]

It’s a fun little nickname

[kindred flint]

THANK YOU EA APP FOR LETTING ME KNOW ITS BEEN MINIMIZED AFTER I HIT THE CLOSE BUTTON

this program seems more dog shit than origin was

[arctic grove]

Yep I hate programs that do that sheet

[drowsy shuttle]

I think you can costumize that

[kindred flint]

am i blind or is there a setting to make it actually close..

[still vault]

Lots of apps tell you that the firsts time. It's actually good practice.

[edgy oriole]

or task manager

[kindred flint]

in the settings for the program...of course i right click close it

they dont actually include an option to "close on close"

[limpid pond]

Would I get in trouble for dming mods a question??

[eager spire]

I'm lazy but i'm imagining that fucking utopia meme with the text "the world if programs actually closed when you click on the X button"

[drowsy shuttle]

Which class can equip the damn SPH?

[eager spire]

assault

[buoyant trail]

^

[drowsy shuttle]

Ah got it.. jeez i need to sleep more

[still vault]

No, but I would consider using @clear spade

if it's moderation/discord related at least

[arctic grove]

Just like every other bf map

[cosmic sequoia]

god the super hind needs a nerf

[calm bison]

Alright so I’ve played a bit of Flashpoint

The CQB parts are really well designed

However the open areas suffer

It feels like there are too many places to get shot from

This is normal for battlefield maps

But given how linear the map is

It suffers from too many players in one specific area making traversal difficult

7/10

[limber orbit]

tbh the map is better with 64p

[turbid geode]

now play the breakthrough version and deal with the one-sided match

[calm bison]

I don’t play breakthrough

[turbid geode]

flashpoint on Breakthrough sucks

[kindred flint]

but then the BT version of the map doesnt have the underground section to fight over

[coral relic]

Can anyone help me with my Battlefield it wont launch

[limpid pond]

I messaged modmail so thank you carb

[limber orbit]

not enough smgs huh?

[arctic grove]

Kalidescope has a underground garage that is just there

[peak wind]

this is just insane!!

[arctic grove]

#streams-and-videos

[next onyx]

Cool video but as directed please use what leviiathan linked instead.

[drowsy shuttle]

Remove ranger remove ranger remove range remove ranger remove ranger remove ranger remove ranger.

[next gulch]

Add MortarsAdd MortarsAdd MortarsAdd MortarsAdd Mortars

[drowsy shuttle]

Ranger is the item of the scrubs

[inner roost]

Nerf super hind pls dice these things ruin breakthrough

[tough folio]

imagine dying to a ranger

takes less than like 4 seconds to kill

[inner roost]

dying to ranger or dying to Boris turret, what's more embarrassing

[drowsy shuttle]

Imagine being ugly

[tough folio]

boris turret thing takes like 5 seconds to successfully operate targeting systems before shooting

[turbid geode]

boris is the worst engineer specialist

[next gulch]

was put into the worst Flashpoint round yet lol, it was almost already over and my side was completely dominated

[limpid pond]

No actually it's for mods in the chat

[mossy furnace]

Anyone looking for a match with mics

[drowsy shuttle]

Ranger is for console players without aim

[inner roost]

You might be the only guy dying to rangers

[magic bloom]

Holy fuck someone complaining about a ranger

[inner roost]

Actually massive skill issue

[safe bramble]

i just wish they fixed the janky ass rocket prediction

i have to play a game of "will this hit" in dogfights

[next gulch]

and just got put into an empty lobby, going good today

[arctic grove]

Ranger is occasionally annoying for area denial

I wish ranger got buffed

[magic bloom]

It’s literally easy to counter

How can anyone complain about it

[drowsy shuttle]

Hear me out "pro", lets say you just killed 4 guys with ac9 and you are low health trying to escape to heal and then a wild ranger 1000m away shoots you and you die... foh

[arctic grove]

Oh ye I know I’m just saying sometimes ranger becomes a medium inconvenience

[next gulch]

keeps putting me into same empty Flashpoint round lol

[drowsy shuttle]

Cause thats what happened to me

But yeah skill issue like the kids say

[inner roost]

Yeah happend what once?

[drowsy shuttle]

Lol

[inner roost]

Ur malding over a single occurence

Where a ranger caught you when you were basically dead

[magic bloom]

It literally is a skill issue…

[drowsy shuttle]

Brain issue .. but its cool i still like you guys

[magic bloom]

Literally, think next time

[limpid pond]

It's not a skill issue it's just a register issue

[arctic grove]

Unironically speaking. I want Ranger in the next game. Ranger isn’t a super near future concept considering its not too far fetched even as we speak

[magic bloom]

DOD’s already got them pretty much

[acoustic oar]

I hope they don't put any AI in normal multiplayer matches in the next game.

[magic bloom]

Except I think they’re tracked instead of walking

[arctic grove]

Yea I seen the tracked stuff like UGS in the EU

[arctic grove]

That’s fair

[magic bloom]

I think the ranger would be ok

Or something similar

[arctic grove]

In 128 conquest you can only have 2 per team anyways iirc

[drowsy shuttle]

Ofc.. but dont have too much hopes.. the scrubs need training wheels.

[acoustic oar]

and I hope they go back to 64 players max

[magic bloom]

I don’t

[arctic grove]

64p is probably just more worth it for the performance and map design part of things

But I don’t mind 128 now on the reworked maps

[magic bloom]

The maps would have to go back to being relatively small

[arctic grove]

They might be able to work some stuff out, I typically reference BFV iwo jima which is honestly an impressively large map

But I know some people don’t like it for that same reason so

[magic bloom]

I like it cause of how much chaos it causes

[arctic grove]

128p is imo way better for gameplay if they can nail the map design and performance

[granite island]

The maps were designed for 128

[magic bloom]

Agreed

[shell ermine]

So far they haven't though

[granite island]

Except for flashpoint

I don't think Flashpoint was designed for 128

Is it weird I want dice to make larger open maps

Like hourglass or breakaway

[drowsy shuttle]

128p is fine. BT 128p was the most fun i had in bf 2042. Unfortunately there are not enough players to fill the servers regularly

[shell ermine]

Flashpoint wasn't designed by anything. It's a Jackson Pollock scattershot of bullshit

[magic bloom]

When 128 BT came back the servers I was in were filled completely

[granite island]

I still have not experienced 128 breakthrough

Pls bring back

[magic bloom]

It’s the most frustratingly fun thing you’ll do in this game

[next gulch]

lmao transport vehicles like that stupid 2 seater car are the biggest SHOOT ME PLEASE signs ever in BF history

[granite island]

I heard 128 BT turns all maps into a meat grinder

[shell ermine]

I'm honestly finding Flashpoint to be less enjoyable than the launch maps

[arctic grove]

…..I can’t tell you how fun it was to abuse the 128bt attacker vehicle limits and rain hell on everyone with the attack helicopters..

[drowsy shuttle]

That was for the event. Normal 128p BT wont fill the servers regularly... 64p BT is the first normal game mode getting empty and Dice removed 128p BT because the servers will fill like mid match.. half of the match was half humans and half AI.. conquest doesnt have that issue cause is the most popular game mode. If the player base was bigger Dice would never remove 128p BT.

[granite island]

I thought they removed 128 bt because the "community" complained about it too much

[arctic grove]

IMO 128bt is better than 128 rush (which is back every other week) because once an objective is taken in 128bt defenders can actually take it back

In 128 rush, if one of the objectives are destroyed it literally becomes unbearable for defenders as 64 people now have one single objective left to blow up

[granite island]

I just realized 128 bt on Flashpoint would be hell on the first sector

That tiny area

You have to capture

[drowsy shuttle]

By far. 128p rush is just.. stupid chaos.. but its good to tier 1 some gadjets and stuff

[shell ermine]

128p Rush and BT were good for the only thing that Metro and Locker were good for, grinding out unlocks.

[arctic grove]

Oh for sure

[shell ermine]

They didn't actually have good Battlefield gameplay

[jagged yacht]

5 games of best medic between 70 to 100 revives

[granite island]

It is realistic of what would happen if you crammed 2 different army's that are enemy's in a small area

[drowsy shuttle]

Its midnight UK time and theres only 15 players on normal 64p BT on a friday night...

128p BT will never come back

But im sure if i jump to 128p conquest its currently full

[granite island]

Atleast make it a weekly

[ebon pebble]

Is the NTW-50 not a one shot kill anywhere anymore?

[white geyser]

I got some grinding to do with the RM68 rifle since I already unlocked it

[lofty plover]

What’s the most popular mode right now?

[spare quest]

yes

[arctic grove]

yes

[drowsy shuttle]

Conquest. Always was always will be

[ebon pebble]

Are you guys saying yes to my question?

[lofty plover]

Yep

[drowsy shuttle]

And its the worse

[ebon pebble]

Can any of the pistols in 2042 one shot

[edgy oriole]

i wanna say from 20-50ish meters its 1 shot.

[drowsy shuttle]

Frontlines > Breakthrough > Rush > Conquest

[edgy oriole]

g57 can single burst if aimed correctly. and i think the magnum can do some big damage but not sure if it can one tap

[spare quest]

Yes

[ebon pebble]

@edgy oriole Is that like to middle of map?

[wooden briar]

Obrez can one shot

[edgy oriole]

its not that far. in game you can ping and see

[ebon pebble]

@spare quest Which one

Ok

[spare quest]

G57 easy 1tap burst kill

on head ofc

[ebon pebble]

If you can aim which I took out a whole squad the NTW-50 ironsights up close is kinda op

@spare quest Ya have that pistol it's good

[wooden briar]

Are we gonna get saving gun loadout option anytime?

[ebon pebble]

Any good attachments for G57 and can we talk about horror movies here?

@drowsy shuttle What is Frontlines?

[drowsy shuttle]

Best game mode Dice created. Was in BF V. Unfortunately they had to remove it cause there was not enough players. Because well... uga buga conquest uga buga

[arctic grove]

[ebon pebble]

What do you do in the mode

[karmic egret]

its basically breakthrough mixed with rush

[limpid pond]

Still leaving this here

1 in a million chance

[cyan trout]

It's a game of tug of war with weapons

[placid echo]

[acoustic seal]

still don't understand how people looked at claymores being added with anything other than dread

[eager spire]

because how dare you expect rat players to be aware of their surroundings.

[limpid pond]

Like claymores are a big issue just no one wants to run them to give up a special gadget but trash cans use them all the time.

Like dude look at this

[buoyant trail]

I love claymores on BT as a defender

[limpid pond]

I haven't used claymores one time

[fervent rose]

its actually mind blowing that the game will not check the spawn area for a claymore. this is incompetence

[limpid pond]

Like bf has never been a realistic shooter it's meant for wide scale battles that's it.

[buoyant trail]

I got a few double kills on flashpoint with them on the 3rd capture point

[limpid pond]

What's actually mind blowing Is that claymores don't disappear when someone dies

Like when the Placer dies

They just stay there

[fervent rose]

being able to put prox mine on spawns is just some fucking stupid shit

actual bozo stuff

[limpid pond]

Yeah it's mad stupid. I just left the game after I clipped it

[acoustic seal]

remember the spawn AA guns from bf4? sure miss that these days

[limpid pond]

Like I just joined spawned in and died

[remote kiln]

get rolled

[limpid pond]

https://tenor.com/view/hugs-rickroll-gif-24588121

You get rolled bozo

[karmic egret]

git gud scrub lmoa

[copper ice]

no fucking idea why they removed that whole section from BT

congrats you made a cool area but vehicles cant get in there so get back to being farmed

[kindred flint]

Im still wondering what they did with the building at E1 that can come crashing down on you....

[copper ice]

[copper ice]

50 bucks says it crashed the game 50% of the time

[kindred flint]

Surely the dev that did the voice over for that trailer actually saw such a thing happening in front of him, and didnt just pull that hype line out of his ass

[copper ice]

[fervent rose]

just as real as the 51/49 breakthrough stats

[ebon pilot]

i finally got a kill from throwing a grenade back at someone

[stable sail]

I made a Rush XL gamemode if anyone wants to join. Up on portal now.

Called Rush XL

[karmic egret]

WAIT, you can throw nades back?

[ebon pilot]

..........yes

another example

[karmic egret]

interesting

[drowsy shuttle]

Double XP this weekend?

[spare quest]

[arctic grove]

Same

[turbid geode]

same

definitely helped against the vehicle spawn camping

[stable sail]

Anyone wanna help me pop a Rush XL portal server I just created

[delicate fable]

noticed today the CAV-brawler didn't track any stats for a match I played with it for a good while

wondering if itll fix itself eventually or if I lost out completely

[eager spire]

Question, since claymores were brought up earlier

I saw someone mention that the bug where claymores actually damaged in a 360 degree radius around them hasn't actually been fixed in this update, can anyone confirm that?

[spare quest]

yes

[eager spire]

okay, cool of them to put that in the patch notes

Changing things but not putting them in the patch notes
Putting things in the patch notes but not changing them

[upbeat sand]

Still waiting forrrrrr melee cam fix

[idle lion]

bro its been like this since bf4

[idle lion]

oh yea, i keep getting stuck inside of the person im executing when the camera activates

[upbeat sand]

I hate bf4 claymores

Bf4's balancing overall really

[idle lion]

balancing?

whats that

never heard of it

[upbeat sand]

Just game balance

[idle lion]

i meant more of the siege of shanghai helicopter thing

[eager spire]

BF4's claymores were annoying. I felt like BF4's balance otherwise was fine. People complain about the AEK but the AEK is fairly balanced.

[idle lion]

ive not seen people complain about the aek much

[eager spire]

there's nothing besides shotguns that i would say is overpowered.

[eager spire]

well i have

[idle lion]

the attack heli on shanghai?

[upbeat sand]

It's really cause of all the identical weapons which are just reskins and vehicles

Oh god the vehicles

[idle lion]

yep

[eager spire]

can any random dipshit get in an attack heli on Shanghai and do well

[idle lion]

no because theres always the badmin sitting in it

[eager spire]

or is it just that an experienced pilot is very difficult to take down.

[eager spire]

That's not a game balance issue that's a server issue.

[upbeat sand]

I can't play bf1 or bf4 cause of the servers

[idle lion]

i remember killing the heli guy once and then getting banned by the server admin

[upbeat sand]

People who play on them are the more hardcore extremists I've ever seen

[idle lion]

i actually clipped it and have a video

[eager spire]

Most of the servers i played on BF4 were decent.

[upbeat sand]

Not in oce

[eager spire]

well i don't live in OCE so i can't speak to that.

[idle lion]

good for you

[copper ice]

This was so fucking funny to me

[idle lion]

yeah 2042 is kinda turning in that direction too

[upbeat sand]

It's just shanghi shanghi golmud golmud

Then just 24/7 locker servers going with just aek users and nothing else

Who don't revive

[copper ice]

No devs are going to make changes a couple of days after releasing a new map in a casual arcade shooter because the win rate is 51/49

[upbeat sand]

And just uses the bandage and M26

[idle lion]

theres no way (if you are talking about flashpoint) that the winrate is 51/49

[idle lion]

bro xm8

you dare be in a corridor, you are dead

[upbeat sand]

The attack usually gets stuck at point C or D so I think it's that

[eager spire]

who the fuck is running the M26 unironically

what kind of weirdo players are you dealing with.

[upbeat sand]

70-2 aek
80+ LAV no deaths

90+ bird kills no deaths

GOLMUD GOLMUD GOLDMUD

SHANGHI SHANGI

and I feel like the DLC map server just chooses the worst out of them only just so they can have opsn spaces worst than hourglass

Or their LAV kills

[next gulch]

oh my god so many bads playing today, every Flashpoint round been terrible

[idle lion]

bads?

[next gulch]

[crude wave]

Shanghai, golmud, silk road, locker 24/7 and hardcore us army vet servers

[copper ice]

You are absolutely correct, but thats what the official twitter stated

They really will just lie through their fucking teeth about anything at this point

[eager spire]

what makes you think that's a lie?

[white sparrow]

i think attackers have a huge advantage

especially cuz the defenders can basically be surrounded from all sides and picked off like fish in a barrel

not to mention the vehicles

[copper ice]

I played 11 rounds of flashpoint in a row and attack won 10 of them

[fervent rose]

they lied in a trailer about some mini levolution thing that clearly doesnt exist but yea ill believe this 51/49 farce

[copper ice]

It's so silly

[fervent rose]

sadly they have no credibility

they continue to lie to the players

[copper ice]

The implication that every other map is perfectly 50/50 balanced and only flashpoint has the most minor 51/49 imbalance

[eager spire]

yeah i doubt it's that evenly cut across the board

[copper ice]

Also that they make an adjustment to the map in under a week based on a stat that could level itself out given more time

suggests that the numbers are not nearly as even as they said they are

[eager spire]

what did they change?

[fervent rose]

no more double tank

[copper ice]

Removed one of attacks tanks on most objs and removed the transport heli on the final obj

[fervent rose]

and i think the heli goes away sooner

[granite island]

I think the changes to spearhead breakthrough made it too easy for attackers

[eager spire]

that sounds like a decent change.

[copper ice]

Pretty significant changes to make for a simple 51/49

[fervent rose]

yea those numbers are total bs

[eager spire]

but yeah, significant considering the claimed circumstances

[copper ice]

I have no issues with the changes and I'm pleased with anything that means less vehicles, just amusing that they spat those numbers out

[fervent rose]

it was a "dont quit playing defense" bs number

like to convince people its not that bad

[copper ice]

They didn't have to give any statistics at all, they could have just said "internal numbers suggest attack is winning too much" or something

[eager spire]

I'm still baffled they put the claymore change in the patch notes yet that's apparently not fixed

[copper ice]

saying 51/49 is ridiculous and implies all other maps have a perfect balance

[granite island]

I have played so many matches of Flashpoint breakthrough

And not a single mf player on defend is using Irish

Yet they complain

[copper ice]

The emp change is huge and that didnt get in the notes either

[eager spire]

what emp change?

[granite island]

Casper emp

It's very good now

[eager spire]

So basically, don't trust the patch notes.

[fervent rose]

nothing new about that

[bleak ibex]

I still feel like the positions of attachments on the weapons layout are still causing the attachments not to operate properly.

[upbeat sand]

Mmm yes top scoring as Dozer with a vcar, sticky launcher and 17 melee kills

[copper ice]

Casper emp now affects a small aoe and both casper emp and emp grenade destroy gadgets

[eager spire]

I see.

[copper ice]

which helps tremendously against irish

like, a massive massive change

[fervent rose]

irish is no longer completely absurd

just mostly

[copper ice]

and completely unmentioned in notes

[copper ice]

This one is funny because it makes him worse at infantry defence but still king of vehicle balance

[granite island]

Also where enemy Casper drone on breakthrough

I'm trying to get blasco tier 1

But nobody is using it

[eager spire]

I'm still amazed that they put the claymore thing in the notes. like, I would think if you're gonna put something in the patch notes, you should like, i donno, actually fix it

[fervent rose]

i suppose but the aggro shit i was getting away with as irish in a tank will have way more counters

the losers that sit a mile away will still be hard to deal with

[granite island]

I have now discovered how truly powerful emp grenades are now

[eager spire]

I think the best solution to deal with those people is to make it so Irish's APS has a time limit

[granite island]

The ultimate vehicle destroyer build

[eager spire]

like there's a time limit that starts after Irish throws it and as soon as it runs out the APS explodes.

[granite island]

Mackay+ c5+ emp grenade

[copper ice]

The old "hop out and shit an APS then slide back in" not so good now

which is going to cause MORE vehicle camping! hooray!

[fervent rose]

yea

[copper ice]

Bfv established very well that when vehicles are weak up close and untouchable at range, they Just Don't Go Forward

[copper ice]

The issue with this is that irish can just hop out and place more in under a second, while the launcher has a 6.5 second reload

[fleet forge]

season 4 arrived, did they fixed the black screen issue? 🤔

[copper ice]

I consistently get fucked when attacking a tank because it slaps an APS down after my first shot and before my second but I cant see this because I'm behind cover so I just end up wasting a shitload of time

[fervent rose]

thats also a bfv attrition problem. you go in hard and you're out of ammo fast

it's pretty basic to want to stay where ammo is available

[copper ice]

10 shots and the trundle of shame back to the resupply

[eager spire]

then make it so Irish can't toss out another APS after his one explodes either due to being destroyed or due to the time limit

[fervent rose]

you cannot blame the players for this stuff

the systems make it so there's very little benefit from traveling far away from the resupply point

and you have no damage drop off on tank shells

surprise

[copper ice]

the tanks were horrendously clunky in bfv

I don't blame them at all

They were basically megasnipers

Asides from the rare staghound or mini panzer zooming around

[eager spire]

nyoom

[copper ice]

I'm good with this, but I also don't trust dice not to fuck that programming up somehow

[eager spire]

yeah true

[fervent rose]

Irish shouldn't have 2 APS in the first place

[copper ice]

It would be easier to just have APS not blow up rockets imo

[eager spire]

Why does he have two.

[fervent rose]

2 shield is fine, 2 aps i dont get

[copper ice]

And 2 APS yeah LOL

[eager spire]

hold on a second.

why the fuck does he have two.

[fervent rose]

its easier

[copper ice]

They probably programmed it in a way that means he can have two of Gadget, and they used the plus system to decide it so both count as Gadget and they can't restrict only one of them

[fervent rose]

i imagine it would be clunky to have two items on the same button with different limits/cooldowns

[eager spire]

maybe that would've been justified before tanks had APS, but now that they do, why the fuck does he need two of them?

[copper ice]

makes it fucking easy to defend chokepoints

one irish can shut down two different entrypoints

with 0 effort required

I wouldn't mind APS so much if someone had to actually use it like casper drone somehow but it's how ez mode it is

[fervent rose]

also he can have a backup ready to insta replace the one when it dies

thats the real bullshit part of it

[copper ice]

Yeah they recharge fast as fuck

i spent ages trying to fuck up a tank on breakaway glacier earlier and it went

die multiple times doing 0 damage
take rorsch to kill APS easiest
swap to m5
miss a couple of times judging distance
finally land a hit
fire immediately after reload
2 more APS up already

what's even the point of trying

[eager spire]

this is really why vehicles should've had APS on launch instead of designating that task to a specialist character.

genuinely why did vehicles not have APS on launch?

[fervent rose]

funny part about irish aps is that it was never a real issue when enemy had air vehicles on BT

[copper ice]

The other side is that explosive spam in 2042 is legitimately oppressive with everyone having access to UBGL on top of nades and gadgets etc

[fervent rose]

but dice cant fix things without breaking the game

[copper ice]

the sticky launcher is fucking nuts right now

[eager spire]

It's the Plus System™️!

[fervent rose]

even completely ignoring underbarrels, theres too much explosives

i die less to HE than the rest

[copper ice]

zain and sundance have access to infinite regen aoe, sticky launcher, 9 UBGL, frags

[eager spire]

WHY THE FUCK DID DICE THINK ASSAULT NEEDED ANOTHER RANGED EXPLOSIVE

[fervent rose]

and splash damage from vehicles also good lord

"transport" vehicles

[copper ice]

one ammo box gives you 1 of every UBGL, your grenade, and two sticky launcher ammo

that is a fucking insane amount of aoe

[magic bloom]

I feel a way to Balance Irish APS Is to have Limited projectiles and make it on a cool down so it can’t snipe 15 grenades at once

[copper ice]

The 30mm has some of the largest aoe in the entire game it's fucking oppressive

[dull bear]

if i get put on defence on flashpoint again im gonna lose my mind

[copper ice]

dont worry, you have a 49% chance to win

[magic bloom]

You guys remember the pre nerf 50mm?

How fun That was sarcasm

[copper ice]

Thankfully I didnt acquire the game until it was part of EA play

[dull bear]

i could care less when i am yet to play a single game on attack

[copper ice]

keep praying, i played 11 rounds the other day and i was defence for 10 of them

genuinely thought the game had broken

[magic bloom]

I find i have a Good mix of offense and Defense on the new map

[fervent rose]

requeue until you see the american flag

[dull bear]

idk what the american flag looks like anymore

i only see russian

[fervent rose]

hes russian now

[idle lion]

new cheater enters the scene: Eviloverlordwob

[eager spire]

thinking about this game for more than 7 seconds annoys me

[dapper river]

wtf how??

[magic bloom]

Pc

[eager spire]

what are you talking about

[dapper river]

If I typed exactly what he typed it would be "****"

[magic bloom]

Console player?

[dapper river]

Me? no

[magic bloom]

That’s weird

[lofty plover]

How am I not finding a game of conquest right now

[eager spire]

if this were a game that makes sense i would say that this is just with the censors turned off.

but this is not a game that makes sense so i don't think that's an option.

[dapper river]

The filter is mandatory, cannot be disabled

[buoyant trail]

Ah yes a soldier can yell things like "oh fuck get your dicks in the dirt boys" but we cant even call someone on our own team a bitch

👍genius

[eager spire]

yeah it's annoying

like i could understand filtering slurs. that'd be understandable, but filtering general swearing is annoying and benefits nobody.

[drowsy shuttle]

Buff Conquest players, Dice.

[eager spire]

Make conquest players wanna get better at the game

[buoyant trail]

GL

[upbeat sluice]

Dude is definitely cheating

[buoyant trail]

New map isnt fun on 128 or BT

I mean i play it but 100% get tilted at some of the bs that map has

[upbeat sluice]

I'm just mad that Chovelle guy is able to get around the censors

His profile is very sus too

[drowsy shuttle]

3rd squad that i left. Jesus fuckint christ.

[dapper river]

Yeah why can't I say the big boy words! I'm OLD ENOUGH!!

[edgy oriole]

before i changed my name it was insanedopeclown and i found out recently when people were talking to me it would bleep out my name so this whole time i had no idea

[upbeat sluice]

That dude is cheating in order to get around it. I don't think there's any other way

[dapper river]

Thank you DICE, I'm so glad this filter protected my sensitive ass from this man's name

[glad furnace]

https://tenor.com/view/american-psycho-joker-gif-22008141

[arctic grove]

Referring to the earlier discussion apparently on the BF podcast they’re looking into readding all chat

[eager spire]

I’m still annoyed that EA wouldn’t let me set my name to CEOofTransGender.

[glad furnace]

really?

they let me do CEOofRacism

[upbeat sluice]

Dumb swedes didnt censor "skeet" haha

[dapper river]

it had better come next season

[stable sail]

ugh.

[fervent rose]

what is very sus about that guy. wdym

[stable sail]

FNB is such a bore tn

😦

[glad furnace]

yo its my boy charles

[arctic grove]

room temp iq take

[magic bloom]

Fr

[arctic grove]

If it’s woman or anything but white man = WOOOOOOKEE!!!

[stable sail]

they haddaaa put 64p on the biggest map lmao

[eager spire]

Yup. They wouldn’t let me do that. Considering CEOofRacism is allowed now I’m even more annoyed about it.

[glad furnace]

and my buddy was ChampionOFRacism

[eager spire]

Hm, cry about it

[gaunt gale]

epic

[drowsy shuttle]

Holy shit this is so good that i could fap to it

[upbeat sluice]

Virgin spotted

[arctic grove]

2042s story relates to millions of roughly organized people fighting for RU/US national interests

It has nothing to do with that, you’re digging this hole deeper for yourself with this already abhorrent take

[eager spire]

“No real life time in the game” what do you mean by that

[arctic grove]

I’ve got 300 if that counts.

[eager spire]

Are you having a stroke

[magic bloom]

Got More than you

[glad furnace]

there would still be women fighting on the front line dumbass, the specialist arent spec ops

[upbeat sluice]

You seem asspained

[drowsy shuttle]

Dude im gonna fap to you tonight

Delicious

[magic bloom]

I dont Even think some were soldiers

[upbeat sluice]

Uh this is 2042

[fervent rose]

who fucking cares

[magic bloom]

Afghanistan…

Dumb fuck

[arctic grove]

Iraq

[drowsy shuttle]

Its a videogame you numnuts.. also there are lot of women in the militarymm

[arctic grove]

Modern wars have blurred the line between frontline soldiers considering missiles and other weapons have the range to strike support personnel

[limber orbit]

misogynist eh?

[upbeat sluice]

It's all science fiction so you can do whatever

[arctic grove]

IIRC Iraq war was around the time we legalized women in combat roles for that exact reason

[drowsy shuttle]

Okay im done feeding the troll.. but was fun lol

[eager spire]

man’s been brewing up this bullshit since December 2022

[inner roost]

You're actually crying about women in BF LOL, go try and talk to some IRL bet you wont

[fervent rose]

thats truth

he aint talking to any of these women in game or out

[arctic grove]

His takes are so brain dead that I know exactly how to address them but I’m dumbfounded almost

[glad furnace]

afgan , GWOT, etc

[edgy oriole]

https://tenor.com/view/patrick-star-no-this-is-patrick-spongebob-angry-mad-gif-9319809

[glad furnace]

going off the us mil its probably 30% females overall

high or lower percent depending on MOS/AFSC

[magic bloom]

Dont bring logic into That dumbasses Argument

[glad furnace]

the only way his argument would even hold water

[eager spire]

He probably doesn’t even know what these things mean

[glad furnace]

is if he was saying just spec opos

[copper ice]

You on steam? I have called people significantly worse with 0 repercussions

[arctic grove]

Marine 1st Lt. Rebecca Turpin @fringe kestrel

[upbeat sluice]

They haven't seen you say it

[magic bloom]

I also believe there was a female who passed ranger school

[upbeat sluice]

All curse words and a bunch of dumb stuff are autocensored in 2042 chat

[kindred flint]

22-17...yikes that was rough

[dapper river]

Nah, the EA App. Plus, if you type a naughty word, it'll be uncensored for you, but for other players it will appear as asterisks.

[glad furnace]

there was 3 officers that went in

[kindred flint]

this new lmg is fucking bipolar

[glad furnace]

but there was a massive issue that came up with that

[idle lion]

flashpoint has to be the most boring ass map. cause if you play US you win 99% if you play russia you lose 99%

[glad furnace]

not issue but conserversy

[inner roost]

Conq or breakthrough?

[idle lion]

you know from the start whether youll win or lose

[idle lion]

bt

[copper ice]

poo

[inner roost]

Yeah breakthrough in general is in an abysmal state

[copper ice]

that explains a lot

[dapper river]

The data actually says the win/loss split is 51/49, US.

[inner roost]

It's extremely attacker favoured

[eager spire]

Allegedly

[fervent rose]

do you believe that dice tells the truth

[idle lion]

the data is probably cherrypicked

[fervent rose]

[inner roost]

It says that but in my lobbies everyone leaves defender team and only joins attacker

[drowsy shuttle]

It also depends on the teams.. but yeah attackers usually wins... specially because the best players know the game is unbalanced and they only queue to attack...

[edgy oriole]

if you have enough irish and engineers its good, but if the whole team is recon good luck defending

[copper ice]

they really left it uncensored for the player so they'd get less mad thats smart enough i cant complain even though im raging internally

[inner roost]

I have literally won games as attacker in 5 minutes

[copper ice]

you mean 51%

[dapper river]

They get mad or they self-report by sending a screenshot lol

[drowsy shuttle]

Lmao

[glad furnace]

lmaoo

[drowsy shuttle]

When i saw that on dice patch notes i got a good chuckle out of it

[copper ice]

Very very silly

[arctic grove]

The allegations that flashpoint is one sided got so large DICE said that?

[dapper river]

Yeah, on their Twitter! Check #direct-communication

[glad furnace]

go into the vc and ask the devs

[limber orbit]

but those devs might not work on that

[copper ice]

I'm more interested in the allegations that the balance rate on every map is better than 51/49

[arctic grove]

Oh okay duh, I guess they would’ve tweeted that. Figured it was said on the podcast

[eager spire]

I think it’s very funny that someone tried showing up and complaining about wokeness only to literally get bullied out of the server

[arctic grove]

Attacking has always been the better team in Breakthrough and it’s annoying as hell

[karmic egret]

wot

[arctic grove]

Except on like, kaleidoscope

[idle lion]

talk about someone being woke lmao

[fervent rose]

we could just ignore that shit too

i am a dreamer

[copper ice]

There was a lot of them back in the bfv days, i think the server is immune to them now

[eager spire]

Yeah but making fun of them is funnier

[limber orbit]

screw bigots

[idle lion]

nah nah its good to put idiots like that in their place

[copper ice]

Like chickenpox

[eager spire]

Ah yeah I bet

[drowsy shuttle]

i think he was a troll.. probably was bored and thought "meh imma go troll into bf 2042 channel"

[fervent rose]

no i just mean there was no reason to bring the guy back up

[eager spire]

I wanted to

[glad furnace]

cope

[eager spire]

So I did. Now I’m gonna go sleep.

[copper ice]

The power of multiple vehicles vs 1 jeep

[arctic grove]

God

I hate that shet man

[copper ice]

It's okay that they have two tanks, a RAM, a mav and a transport heli

you have a pair of jeeps

and only 1 of them has a minigun on it! score!

[glad furnace]

that man hated the specialist because they had women, I had the specialist cuz their voice lines are weak. we are not the same

[brittle forge]

The first sector on Renewal is literally a troll

[limber orbit]

some maps a tank and a light vehicle

[fervent rose]

ram on attack was removed

the only really fun vehicle denied

[copper ice]

because ram spawn point was nuts LMAO

[arctic grove]

I think they’re meh cause I personally like muh grunt soldiers

[brittle forge]

Same

[fervent rose]

they could re add the ram since it no longer airdrops

[copper ice]

and they replaced ram spawn point with a vehicle that can spawn the entire fucking team on it always

[arctic grove]

I still think the rams spawn beacon should’ve just been given to the mav tbh

[copper ice]

a living spawn point

surely this will be balanced well

[glad furnace]

the other games were more aggressive and realistic imo

[fallen pendant]

This game is so goddamn black I can't see crap around corners

[arctic grove]

Another thing the mav is intended for yet doesn’t have for some weird reason

[glad furnace]

like the medics in bfbc2 telling you to "stop fuckin dying"

[fallen pendant]

The enemies are blending in the surroundings like BFV

[brittle forge]

Ngl I probably would have called BFV “woke” because of all the dumb completely inaccurate shit not in the multiplayer, but in the campaign

[eager spire]

Eh.

I don’t really care, it’s a video game.

[glad furnace]

yeah campaign i would call "woke" but overall game was still fun for multiplayer

[copper ice]

The reason is that they hadn't programmed it yet and then didn't put it on the mav as well so they could go "wow look so cool" instead of trying to actually balance the game

[arctic grove]

Apparently the war story of the Norwegian girl was an actual SAS raid performed by men

[idle lion]

we need rush 128 and remove bt altogether from the game

[glad furnace]

and the customization of skins was neat

[brittle forge]

I mean I bought the thing, so I obviously didn’t care that much. But you know it was a genuine criticism

[eager spire]

Honestly I wish this game had an “Insult” option on the comrose that would just allow you to yell at teammates that aren’t doing anything

[idle lion]

its a game

[copper ice]

the bfv war stories were stupid from conception to execution, but afaik they're supposed to exist in the same alt history bf1 is

[arctic grove]

Sure but I don’t care about it being a woman there, but why would you take a war story that’s meant to portray that event, and change it completely?

[arctic grove]

That’s fair

[brittle forge]

Norwegian commandos not SAS, but yes they were all male and completed the mission without firing a shot

[glad furnace]

bf1 wasnt really alt history for campaign more just summarizing what an army did down to a single mann

[copper ice]

What if we added SKIING

[eager spire]

I wish BF1 was a better game.

[arctic grove]

Ah I see, that’s really all I draw concern to concerning the woke stuff. MP is cool though

[copper ice]

I'm okay with most of bf1 but fuck mortars and 80 mag smgs and sweet spots and actually maybe I'm not ok with it

[idle lion]

well the same reasojn why in r6s the russian operators arent actually being talked about killing hostages with a gas attack on a theathre that contained hostages and terrorists. Its to make the game have a different outlook and make the bad guys good - good guys bad - change how someone views something in the game so its not looked down upon

[brittle forge]

The French war story literally pretended the Tirallieur were erased from history by the racist white Frenchmen when in reality the exact opposite happened. And that was one of the central points in the story so, despite the fact that it was fictional characters, it really can’t be ignored

Not the biggest deal again. I bought the game, but it was valid criticism.

[fervent rose]

horses and elite kits were fun wdym @copper ice

[eager spire]

BF1 has a lot of issues beside those, slide that was nerfed way too much, gas and fire nades going through walls, gunplay that was so simple that you can win CQB engagements with just hipfire

[arctic grove]

New Jet buffs????

[eager spire]

Elite kits existing

[copper ice]

to be fair good hipfire is actually fun

[eager spire]

Eh

[copper ice]

more games should have decent hipfire

[fervent rose]

good hipfire is fun

bad hipfire = rng shooter

[arctic grove]

Elites typically had restricted movement and vision though. And they were all “1 shot” by bayonet

[brittle forge]

Hot take, elite kits were not that bad, aside from maybe the trench raider

[arctic grove]

remaster dragons pass

[eager spire]

I don’t like it. I don’t like how that’s basically the default method of CQB fighting the game has.

[copper ice]

im not saying shit like 200 mag 1200rpm lmgs should be having solid hipfire but bfv smgs had really really nice hipfire and that was one of the best parts of the game

[fervent rose]

trench variants in bf1 felt pretty decent too

most guns didnt but they were ok

[eager spire]

Yeah but they were still annoying and shouldn’t have been in all objective game modes. They should’ve been exclusive to Operations, along with Behemoths.

[copper ice]

2042 smg hipfire is ass and 2042 average engagement is like 2.5x bfv engagement range

[eager spire]

Trench variants were basically the meta.

[arctic grove]

That’s fair yea. I can see that making sense

as a medic i used optical

[brittle forge]

Hipfire should be perfectly viable in CQC ngl. The absurd random bullet spread present though was complete bullshit and took all skill out of the gunplay

[arctic grove]

still use* i play bf1 the most lol

[copper ice]

Elites could be bayonetted so that was fine

[arctic grove]

The tank behemoth was the more meh one imo unless that was just garbage drivers I always played with

[ripe elbow]

As of today I deleted Battlefield 2042 lol I’m a new player started last month and played for 20+ hours. Game not bad but just mediocre 🤷‍♂️

Have fun 👍

[arctic grove]

Ok

[copper ice]

🫡

[brittle forge]

Fair enough, I’m sorry you didn’t enjoy it

[fervent rose]

fair review

[arctic grove]

biggest thing for me is the one map per season

[copper ice]

nothing but respect for people who escape the firm grip of insanity

[brittle forge]

I want try the new season, but I was busy playing destiny two lightfall, and now my fucking power’s been out the whole day because of storms

[eager spire]

Eh. I’d argue what took most of the skill out of it was the effectiveness of hipfire, suppression existing, and the visual recoil. I don’t think spread is a bad balancing mechanic, but just not fairly communicated to the player considering there’s no practice range or bullet tracers in first person.

[arctic grove]

did you like it?

[copper ice]

smgs having good hipfire is a way to make them actually relevant against assault rifles

[eager spire]

But there were barely any assault rifles in BF1. Unless you wanna count the BAR.

[brittle forge]

Lightfall? I’d need more time but the gameplay is more or less good, but solo legendary campaign is borderline unfair in the last two missions and the narrative is genuinely awful

[copper ice]

Oh no I dont think bf1 did it well

Just conceptually

[eager spire]

I see.

[copper ice]

we're never gonna get bfv smg hipfire or titanfall hipfire again

[brittle forge]

BFV’s gunplay is the series best imho

[eager spire]

I think the only thing about BF1 I liked was the Medic class.

[arctic grove]

i agree @brittle forge

[eager spire]

I liked the medic’s SLR’s.

They felt like the only guns in the game that took effort and skill to use.

[arctic grove]

the only thing..?

[eager spire]

Yes.

[arctic grove]

don’t tell me this disc doesn’t like bf1 lol

[eager spire]

I don’t like BF1.

[limber orbit]

dont worry i like it

[brittle forge]

The medics made me hate battlefield one’s gunplay the most though. to be honest I played medic almost exclusively, but the random spread on their weapons drove me nuts

If it was restricted to stuff like the self-loading close quarters it’d be fine, but like the marksman rifle still had it

[eager spire]

Would’ve been fine if they hadn’t put spread to recoil conversion in it

[fervent rose]

suppression and spread with visual recoil on top was a cluster

[glad furnace]

heres my opinions on all the bfs and what each one did

[eager spire]

I never really had a problem with spread on the medic SLR’s. Just required pacing shots is all. Visual recoil is bad tho I will say that.

[brittle forge]

Here’s a massive hot take for you all, BF Hardline’s gunplay is like the second best in the series

[stable sail]

Alpha ver made it top

[eager spire]

But it’s basically the same as BF4’s.

[brittle forge]

Doesn’t necessarily justify all the other problems with the game, but the gunplay was really good in that game

[copper ice]

From the very small amount of hardline i did play, it was fun

[stable sail]

Lmao you never played hardline then

[eager spire]

Hardline is good actually

[brittle forge]

It lacked like all of the awful spread the battlefield four had iirc

[wide shore]

Maybe in terms of mechanics. But not how it feels. That game felt really sluggish to me.

[eager spire]

Yes the fuck I did

[copper ice]

bfv pre-ttk change was very solid (outside of semi domination)

[stable sail]

If you thought it was like bf4 lmao

nahhhhh

[brittle forge]

Most of the difficulty at range came from recoil, instead of bullet spread, which was how it should be

[eager spire]

I played it as that shit was dying.

[wide shore]

So you played it at launch.

[fervent rose]

i thought the weapon balance before pacific patch was almost perfect. except for zh29

[eager spire]

Shut up man

[glad furnace]

BF1942 - massive player count for the time BFBC1/2 - amazing story, voice lines/destruction . BF3 - Cool idea of splitting weapons to factions BF4 amazing weapon selections/customizations. BF1 - soundtrack + atmosphere BFV- animations/squad point system. BF2 - vehicle selection, map size, way different game play feeling

[brittle forge]

Hardline was good honestly unless we count the campaign which was total fucking garbage but you know battlefield campaigns haven’t been good since bad company

[stable sail]

tru but it was def the best BF game in terms of fun, features, and map design

[eager spire]

You clearly never ran stubby grip on AR’s.

[stable sail]

The map design was top top tier

[green bough]

Great decision to post this in the bf 2042 chat

[wide shore]

I mean, the game died very quickly. I was on board with the cops and robbers, I thought it looked awesome. But the moment I played the beta, I was good. That’s never happened to me with this series before or since. I did not like how sluggish it felt.

[glad furnace]

i forgot - bf2042 is probably movement

[eager spire]

I didn’t feel like it was sluggish at all when I played it.

[arctic grove]

For V I’d add on movement for its bonuses, agree heavily with the animations. 1/V animations were really nice

[brittle forge]

You clearly haven’t played Battlefield 4 since that one patch late in the game cycle that made spread recovery terrible if you put basically anything that wasn’t an optic on your gun. Or alternatively used any BF4 DMR that isn’t the RFB

[glad furnace]

thee revive people in that game was a1

[stable sail]

Sluggish? lmao every bf4 tryhard cried about ttk being too fast on alpha

so they made it slower

[glad furnace]

ttk was aids when it first came out

[stable sail]

ruined bfh at that point

cap

[turbid geode]

finally got to play the new Breakthrough Flashpoint, it's still a steamroll as attackers

[limber orbit]

yup

[stable sail]

June 2014 build had best ttk

[eager spire]

You’re really gonna make me get up from my bed to post my BF4 play time, huh.

[stable sail]

literally no different than BF2042 now lmao

[eager spire]

Okay.

[turbid geode]

even with less vehicles, the attackers still steamroll

[brittle forge]

If you don’t want to you don’t have to I’ve played the game recently and I just don’t give a shit

[wide shore]

The movement felt slow and weird. Idk. I’m not looking for y’all to agree. I just didn’t like how it felt. I preferred BF4 to it and that saying a lot coming from me.

[glad furnace]

ttk on bf4 is way slower

and so is the movement

the movement is probably just cuz 2042 has the super sprint and slide in it

[limber orbit]

super sprint 😂

[eager spire]

no, no, i will, mostly because you're blatantly wrong and i won't let that stand

[glad furnace]

sorry "tactical run"

[arctic grove]

Movement in 2042 is very arcadey which is good for the map sizes, slide jumping is fun to do

[limber orbit]

ngl super sprint sounds better

[brittle forge]

I quite literally do not care about somebody’s random ass gameplay. You can post whatever you clip you want and it won’t change my mind. You can think I’m wrong all you want, but BFV and Bf2042 both have better gunplay than 4 so it doesn’t matter

[arctic grove]

The one thing about 2042s movement I don’t like though is some options like crouch running, climbing, etc not being there

[eager spire]

BFV's gunplay probably would've been better if spread to recoil conversion wasn't in it.

[arctic grove]

But yeah I don’t have too many complaints for it, looking back I’d probably just mention Mackay old ADS speed being totally busted but that’s about it

[brittle forge]

Completely fair

[wide shore]

Aktually

They call it traversal sprint in 2042

[arctic grove]

Well maybe not busted but everyone else was too slow while ADS

[stable sail]

BFH had the fastest non tac sprint run in the series

[glad furnace]

im calling it super sprint or how to activate sticky keys

[ivory canopy]

Anyone else getting the absolute worst first impressions with these new guns (not the Portal ones)?

[arctic grove]

Uh oh

[glad furnace]

that pretty normal

[arctic grove]

Perhaps you’re still getting used to them

[eager spire]

As for 2042's gunplay, it's fine conceptually, but considering that the game went over a year with broken recoil mechanics and after that got partially fixed, every gun just became very easy to control, It's kind of lacking.

[glad furnace]

release new guns theyre kinda broken

[fervent rose]

the rpt needs attachments so thats normal

[glad furnace]

gets nerfed repeat

[eager spire]

you get beamed from light years away.

[wide shore]

First time they let console pick FOV (BF1 beta) I felt like I was road runner.

[brittle forge]

https://tenor.com/view/running-man-run-man-running-gif-25921432

[arctic grove]

Gotta promote dem battle pass sales

[brittle forge]

2042 tac sprint

[glad furnace]

jokes on you my dumbass bought the $100 edition

[limber orbit]

rekt

[arctic grove]

I always say it but I feel like they could maybe add some more vrec or something to prevent those really long range shots from happening so much

[brittle forge]

Yeah, I should’ve specified battlefield 2042 current gameplay because it basically didn’t work for six months

[wide shore]

Shit I did too.

[eager spire]

it didn't work for way longer than 6 months my guy

[fervent rose]

bfv had better balance in the gunplay than current 2042 imo. AR's are just wild now

[brittle forge]

Honestly, if battlefield three didn’t have suppression I think it’s gonna play would be one of the best in the series but unfortunately it does

[arctic grove]

Hell I did too my brudda, don’t blame you for that one bit

[ivory canopy]

Seems to me like the RPT offends HUGE in that regard. I almost can't get kills with it.

[fervent rose]

but the maps are huge so making guns have poor range also feels bad idk

[ivory canopy]

Then again I'm a trash player so...

[copper ice]

I had beef with the semis being too good at all-rounding and the bolties being generally weak, but really not that many complaints and it was still fun to use the bolties

[glad furnace]

for 2042 id say gunplay oveerall good, guns themselves bad

[arctic grove]

Although I’m iffy about the spread to recoil one thing I’m lucky I do is play on console, which has less recoil than PC anyways so on some guns the random recoil almost doesn’t exist

[brittle forge]

I honestly don’t even remember the timeline of what was broken and what wasn’t. All I know is that I could tolerate the infantry gameplay when season one started

[wide shore]

I just unlocked everything for the RPT earlier. Gonna try it on real players on the morning

[copper ice]

I dont feel fun using most weapons in 2042

[arctic grove]

Garand is obviously pretty point and click. Same with sten and the m2 carbine, which are all the best feeling to me so far

[brittle forge]

Caveat about 2042 gunplay is that all the Portal weapons are trash

Except the ones that are literally broken

[arctic grove]

Portal weapon recoil makes me want to go extinct

[wide shore]

PP2000 slays

[glad furnace]

javlin