battlefield-2042

[copper ice]

if you're firing that far out curse the map designers

[fervent rose]

unfortunately bf2042 has plenty of 100m shooting

[coral trellis]

Or bad in game mechanics that are obsolete

[slender isle]

But... It's my fault for shooting at 300m

[coral trellis]

Kinda

[copper ice]

it's the map designers fault for having those distances

God i miss roam

Rotterdam

[slender isle]

Bro what?

I'll take my 1200m headshots on breakaway

[coral trellis]

Bad mechanics @copper ice

Not map design just bad in-game mechanics

[pine roost]

It’s a way to keep weapons within their intended ranges. Sure I’d be all for no randomness whatsoever, but here it works out alright

[copper ice]

how is long distance an in game mechanic

[spiral folio]

The ballistics are the best theyve ever been

[pine roost]

He’s talking about spread and random recoil

[coral trellis]

Battlefield games punish you for using your weapons for there designated roles

[slender isle]

[pine roost]

Well they don’t

[spiral folio]

No artificially exaggerated drop, velocities that make sense for the most part

[copper ice]

what on earth are you talking about Wilson

[fervent rose]

jesse what the fuck are you talking about

[buoyant trail]

Iron sight supremacy. Hit headshots without optics

[spiral folio]

Previous bf games give sniper rifles extra drop to simulate distance

[coral trellis]

Battlefield games

[pine roost]

I just beamed someone from a 100 m with an AR. Smgs can’t do that because they aren’t supposed to

[spiral folio]

Cause smgs lose a lot of velocity over less distance

[pine roost]

They keep weapons within a range bracket

[spiral folio]

You "can" hit somebody with a smg at 100m but

[coral trellis]

High-powered ammo should be buffed

[spiral folio]

The bullet keeps existing til it lands for the most part

[pine roost]

Chances are low due to spread

[coral trellis]

For assualt rifles

[copper ice]

long barrel deserves the most buff

it's shit right now

[fervent rose]

some high power is the best choice

[spiral folio]

If you like pop one at a time

[coral trellis]

Attachments and guns should make sence

[copper ice]

unfortunately we're playing battlefield

[coral trellis]

Like suppesors don't really effect range any more

Suppressors act as a extension to the barrel now of days instead of making the gun worse

[pine roost]

Having the ability to silence weapons with no drawbacks simply isn’t balanced

So that’s why it’s done that way

[coral trellis]

Not really

[copper ice]

that's artificial balance for the sake of avoiding everyone going smooth operator

[coral trellis]

Everything has drawbacks

Muzzle breaks make the gun louder

[pine roost]

So what would suppressors do then

[coral trellis]

Suppressors are heavy

[copper ice]

deafening my enemies is not a downside

[coral trellis]

It would make you show up on the minimap every time you fired your gun but at extended distances

[copper ice]

200 mag muzzle break pkb directly into the ground

That already happens

[pine roost]

They already do

[fervent rose]

theres very little stopping everyone from going wrapped right now

[copper ice]

and 95% of players dont look at the minimap

[fervent rose]

except for the short barrel guns

[slender isle]

Snipers?

[copper ice]

it's basically always short barrel then wrapped right now yeah

[fervent rose]

idc about snipers i mean all the other guns

with snipers i'd probably leave it higher velocity

[coral trellis]

That's because the game isn't balanced in other areas

[slender isle]

I take the accuracy muzzle cause I like having my bullets go straight

[slender isle]

Long barrel + high power

[pine roost]

Accuracy + is always the go to unless the gun has significant horizontal recoil

[coral trellis]

@copper ice they should just add integrated suppressors

[slender isle]

That's literally the new AR

[fervent rose]

two guns are like that

1 will be added tomorrow*

[pine roost]

Bsvm right?

[fervent rose]

bsvm is like that already

[pine roost]

Yeah

[fervent rose]

theres a silenced short barrel on the new AR

[coral trellis]

The short barrel plus wrapped suppesor meta is a meta because there isn't more attachment slots

[pine roost]

Adding more attachment slots would only make balancing even harder

[coral trellis]

Yes but that's a part of life things get harder first before becoming easier

[pine roost]

So your solution to fixing a balance problem is introducing an even greater balance problem

[fervent rose]

doesnt work with how their plus system is designed

they cant do barrels + silencer/comps

its just 1 slot, it has to be

[coral trellis]

Yes

[unkempt hawk]

why is every match a steamroll :/

[coral trellis]

Things get harder before they get easier

[copper ice]

BSV... TWO

[coral trellis]

The system itself would be self balancing

[fervent rose]

or even better, a free silenced short barrel scar

[copper ice]

wow

just combine all the best features of the current ARs

thanks dice

[coral trellis]

Assualt rifles will always be dominate

[slender isle]

Me when my sfar 4 hits in 1 second instead of .98 of a second

[coral trellis]

Just like assualt rifles are dominate irl

[stiff pollen]

Mfw the easiest guns to use are the most dominant ones

[coral trellis]

Smgs are relegated to less and less uses

[coral trellis]

Just like real-life

[stiff pollen]

Well dice in their infinite wisdom (the data told them) decided to nerf the SMG’s

[pine roost]

Remember when smgs used to be the only viable weapon, good times

[stiff pollen]

You mean the PP29

Which to this day is still amazing

[coral trellis]

If there reliant only on data

[stiff pollen]

Dice acts primarily on data

[coral trellis]

Then you have an issue

[pine roost]

It’s like a perfect blend of smg and ar with a big mag

[copper ice]

[stiff pollen]

The joke is that out of 750 employees only like a dozen play the game

[eager spire]

"We feel that SMG's should not reward accuracy versus other weapon types"

[stiff pollen]

They only needed to nerf the MP9 and K30

Those were the only oppressive ones in the SMG cat

[eager spire]

The MP9 didn't even need a nerf, the K30 should've just not been in the game at all.

[fervent rose]

and they triple nerfed the mp9

mp9 never hurt nobody dice

[stiff pollen]

Game devs need to stop adding the Kriss vector to games cause they can never balance it

Every single game

Hardline, MW19, 2042, MW2022

[slender isle]

Low damage low recoil

balanced

[pine roost]

You would have thought they’d be prepared seeing how literally every fast firing smg type weapon has come under some kind of scrutiny

[fervent rose]

vector should kick like a BFV gun

[pine roost]

Actually not even smgs exclusively, ARs too

Aek

[stiff pollen]

Considering they add a fast fire rate no brain activity gun in every game of theirs sooner or later

[slender isle]

Uhhh no

that's not how a vector works

[fervent rose]

? its 1200 rof

its a videogame

[stiff pollen]

It has a unique recoil system that pulls it downward

[fervent rose]

who cares

[slender isle]

Maybe give it backwards recoil

[pine roost]

Imagine a gun actually going down

That would look really strange

[eager spire]

that's stupid

[slender isle]

Be cool

[pine roost]

Actually just turn the gun upside down, solved 👍

[coral trellis]

If your goal is to make the game has skill rewarding as possible then your pushing people away from the game

[copper ice]

low recoil high spread

[coral trellis]

The casual players who want to have fun

[slender isle]

Vector should do 11 damage in close range and past 25m do 9 damage, but have literally no recoil

[stiff pollen]

That’s actually how it is in sandstorm

[eager spire]

so rewarding people that can actually play the game well is pushing people away from the game?

[stiff pollen]

The one game they got it right

[limpid pond]

There's a gun like that

[fervent rose]

if you think this game is ONLY for skilled players only, idk what to tell you

[limpid pond]

Called the rae37

[fervent rose]

2042 is very casual

[coral trellis]

And what about the people who just want to have fun? And don't care about skill

[stiff pollen]

Deadass if you want to add a high fire rate SMG at this point just make up a new gun instead of adding the vector and being like “oh but IRL it’s actually got low recoil” 🙄

[slender isle]

AC9

😈

[coral trellis]

Snipers? Only way for a sniper to be effective is too use it outside of its area of combat

[stiff pollen]

AC9 is just gonna be the pre nerf vector knowing dice

[pine roost]

You have plenty of options

[fervent rose]

snipers are the one category that does take more skill to use, i agree

use ntw if you suck

[stiff pollen]

Mfw nobody uses them

[slender isle]

7 hit at range, but with a 1094 RPM

[stiff pollen]

[limpid pond]

Good prenerf vector needs to be brought back

[pine roost]

This is the least skill driven bf since bf1 that I’ve played

[limpid pond]

Dealt with the sfar for two seasons now

[slender hare]

guys how can I pre-download the update?

[slender isle]

Be on PS4 or 5

[limpid pond]

Huh??

90% of bf players suck.

[stiff pollen]

This game has skill! How can you say spamming howizter rounds at the objective in a RAM isn’t skillful!

[eager spire]

To be honest, fuck 'em. I don't see why players who can't be bothered to actually play the game well should be catered to.

[limpid pond]

More people sucking mean the skill gap is higher

[slender hare]

bruh, ty then

[limpid pond]

I can drop 60+ kills a game and people over here struggling to drop 20

[stiff pollen]

You’re saying dropping bombs at orbit in the stealth heli isn’t skillful?!

[coral trellis]

So your an asshole who only cares about skill

[limpid pond]

Oh he meant vehicles

[charred stag]

I was reading a post on supposed battlefield leaks for the next game and they sound fake as hell

[slender isle]

Hold W and Mouse 1 with the ppk

[stiff pollen]

You’re saying spamming 70mm rockets in the scout heli isn’t skillful?

[limpid pond]

Nevermind I agree

[stiff pollen]

[eager spire]

yes heaven forbid I think a game should reward players for playing it well.

[slender hare]

also guys I've heard we can unlock the S5 battlepass, do you know how?

[limpid pond]

Yeah I feel the same the vehicles are the least skillful bf yet

[stiff pollen]

You’re saying holding left click on a heli in the TOR isn’t skillful?!

[fervent rose]

you can rack up easy kills in a bunch of ways in battlefield. but you'll have to learn how to aim with a sniper rifle or use the NTW50

[stiff pollen]

[slender isle]

Bro what? ahah

[limpid pond]

Huh????

[royal swan]

You gotta have a mix of skill play and fun play, unless you want a game like cod which completely said fuck the balance let's just punish one side and care the other

[copper ice]

everything you heard was a lie

[limpid pond]

Homie it's not even season 4 yet

[shadow valley]

Am I the only one having problems with command assignment with the helicopter? I can't set any mouse button other than "Mouse 6" but it's the game that automatically selects it for me without giving me a chance to choose anything else

[limpid pond]

I heard you can unlock season 8 bp

[fervent rose]

they said you will get enough BOINS to unlock the 5th bp if you buy the 4th bp

i think

[coral trellis]

Um your basic response with snipers is always about skill tell the truth for once and admit its not about skill it's about gatekeeping

[eager spire]

CoD mostly caters to the people that suck shit though, you're actively punished for doing well on a constant basis.

[copper ice]

BOINS

[fervent rose]

bOINS

[slender hare]

https://youtu.be/7JtOqEULcXA?t=363

[next gulch]

yooo broooo I'm in Season 5 right now stealing all the loot and XP

[stiff pollen]

I’ll be real I actually gravitate towards low skill games because if I put even a modicum of effort into them I shit on the entire lobby. I love dominating people who just came home after a 12 hour shift for a game only to get bombed by Hijinks in his Tier 1 Ram pumping Howitzer rounds from spawn.

[coral trellis]

@eager spire and cod is much more popular than battlefield right now

[drowsy shuttle]

i need to remind myself to not waste the Boins then.

[limpid pond]

Season 8 confirmed

[slender hare]

would be cool ngl

[eager spire]

It sucks ass as a game.

[next gulch]

Season 9 confirmed, will finally include Metro as a 128 player breakthrough map

[pine roost]

Cod is a game not worth getting into

[coral trellis]

Still better than battlefield right now

[fervent rose]

free game has more players (i am dead with shock) 💀

[eager spire]

lol

[stiff pollen]

I actually am never buying a cod again after the vomit that was MW2022

[drowsy shuttle]

cod was always more popular than battlefield.... is it better tho? hummm i don't think so.

[next gulch]

Only time CoD was ever better was before even BC1 came out

[limpid pond]

Cod is terrible rn

[stiff pollen]

If you want to play an enjoyable cod you should just download cod mobile

Now that’s fun

[fervent rose]

mw2 is awful

[royal swan]

There's gotta be a balance for this shit. Hate cheesy fun or hate skill, a game can't live without both.

[coral trellis]

Battlefield is lacking on everything compared to cod games

[pine roost]

Battlefield at a fundemental level does so much better than cod

[stiff pollen]

A lot of people are moving to cod mobile cause cod MW2022 is so bad

[coral trellis]

That's made up

[limpid pond]

Yeah mw2 is trash

[pine roost]

Mw2 messes up practically every fundemental mechanic of an fps

[next gulch]

RIP BF Mobile, we all could've moved there amirite

[coral trellis]

How lol

[limpid pond]

Not only that but cod is supposed to be fast and they made it slow

My character can't sprint after 2 second s

[stiff pollen]

If you want a fast paced cod you don’t buy IW games anymore

Been that way since they pivoted with 2019

[charred stag]

Difference is at least I can play battlefield without feeling myself get sweaty from how campy and competitive everyone is. Call of duty everyone treats it like it's a tournament

[eager spire]

The way these bozos think, having over a 2 K/D in a game should get you blacklisted from it so you're not allowed to play anymore.

[coral trellis]

Treyarch is fast movement infinity ward is slow movement

[pine roost]

Movement is lacklustre, recoil is detached from screen centre, it has a countless number of grenades that act as pure, no skill cheese. SBMM…

[fervent rose]

if cod was fast the guy preaiming a corner for 2 minutes might get his shit rolled

mw2 really do be catering to the bad players

[pine roost]

The only cod I would EVER consider even watching is advanced warfare

[charred stag]

It do

[slender isle]

Over a 5 KD is the sus territory for me

Before that though it's fair game

[coral trellis]

@eager spire skill isn't everything

[slender hare]

I didn't play the game at all, but I've heard (yes, I hear tons of things) that it had some better mechanics than BF2042 (I don't care much, I'm not a cod player)

[pine roost]

I can’t think of a single mechanic in mw2 that I’d want in 2042 personally

[royal swan]

Yeah both communities have been as severely divided as the US political parties.

[coral trellis]

@fervent rose that's more of a tactic than a skill issue

[slender isle]

Inspect

I wanna see my gun

[pine roost]

Besides map selection I guess

[pine roost]

That’s fair

[royal swan]

Fun vs skill has been an argument for so long

[drowsy shuttle]

there is one, that is actually pretty cool. been able to walk around inside the chopper to aim down and shit... i'd love that in BF

[fervent rose]

if all of the fast paced tactics are nerfed into oblivion, the game sucks

thats mw2

[copper ice]

schmovement

[slender isle]

How to turn the hind into a literal god

[coral trellis]

Skill issue

[pine roost]

For some people, like me, skill expression is what’s fun

[eager spire]

The thing about that is that people act like getting better at something means you're not having fun.

[royal swan]

Hell tf2 biggest divide is friendlies (fun) vs tryhards (skill)

[coral trellis]

Running and gunning is a lack of skill

[fervent rose]

@coral trellis bro you are literally complaining you cant land headshots in battlefield

skill issue me pls

[eager spire]

And that fun is only putting as little thought into actually playing the game as possible, and getting easy kills.

[pine roost]

But battlefield allows you to have fun by being supportive or simply getting the drop on someone

[coral trellis]

Except I can

[limpid pond]

Mw19 was fast

[pine roost]

So why complain about snipers not one shotting to the body

[limpid pond]

So was warzone

[coral trellis]

Not as fast cold war

[limpid pond]

But now it's garbage

[drowsy shuttle]

ofc they would've to balanced it out with other stuff... but that mechanic is undeniable pretty damn cool.. was my favourite thing in the GroundWar game mode

[limpid pond]

Oh 100% not

Cold war bo3 bo4

All faster

[charred stag]

Hold up,he wants snipers to one shot in battlefield?

[limpid pond]

Can't wait for jetpack cod again

[limpid pond]

They are though

[slender isle]

They did... pre S3

[fervent rose]

you just need skill

[slender isle]

SWS had an 80m 1 hit

[limpid pond]

It's called a headshot dude need to learn to aim

[coral trellis]

Yes

[limpid pond]

Smgs should be 1 shot

[coral trellis]

Aiming is preety easy

[charred stag]

Unless it's to the head,hell nah

[limpid pond]

Clearly not for him

[charred stag]

I don't want battlefield to turn into ground war from mw2

[slender isle]

Yeah lmao. 80m 1 hit SWS and GOL

[pine roost]

So you’ll be perfectly fine with them one shotting to the head exclusively right?

Glad we can come to an agreement

[copper ice]

nothing wrong with sws cannon

[coral trellis]

To the chest and above for snipers

[limpid pond]

Nope 1 shot to body. Smgs should shoot near you and you die

[fervent rose]

you can also crutch on the noob cannon ntw50

[royal swan]

But it's not the easiest way to enjoy the game. Like c5+car against tank is a much more fun easy experience than actual skill flanking said tank and c5 it upclose

[limpid pond]

You jjst die of being scared because smg

Smg go brrrrrrrrrrrr

[charred stag]

Chest and above no

[drowsy shuttle]

COD 2 ... 1 shot kill with snipers and rifles (kar98, mosin and springfield) ... those were the days... the shot that matters and to actually see who had the skill to be the faster.... COD 2.. best shooter of all time. i will die on this hill

[pine roost]

MUh sUprESsIOn

[coral trellis]

Yes

[limpid pond]

Mwah

Just instant death

[charred stag]

Unless it's the NTW,it should only one hit to the head

[limpid pond]

Add a paintball gun

[coral trellis]

Snipers should be 1 shot kill to the chest and above

[wary portal]

Hey what's new?

[idle lion]

well tbf the dxr does look like the type of gun to destroy someone in the body

[eager spire]

what's the problem with them only oneshotting to the head?

If you say you can aim then what's the problem?

[pine roost]

If you can easily land headshots why do you want to make it easier to land shots, keeping it as is only mean you’ll be outperforming everyone else

[coral trellis]

Because it won't happen most of the time

[royal swan]

Hip fire should be rewarded and not act like some handicap bullshit

[slender isle]

every skin cell on your body

[charred stag]

Yeah but comparing the DXR to the NTW is not the same. DXR is much faster than the NTW and it's easier to shoot someone's chest with it

[eager spire]

but you said it yourself that aiming is easy

so why wouldn't it happen most of the time if you're so good at aiming?

[coral trellis]

Aiming and hitting the target are 2 diffrent things

[eager spire]

okay so the problem is that you can't hit the target.

[coral trellis]

Once you fire you have no control after you have fired the gun

[eager spire]

Sounds like you should aim better

[fervent rose]

you want instant kills that take no effort? use a shotgun or explosive

[idle lion]

fair enough, its still pretty bulky though

[coral trellis]

No its called a lack of control after firing the gun

[royal swan]

Purposely nerfing yourself to use the ohk sniper close range potential should be added back

[charred stag]

The sniper is not semi auto. It's bolt action. You're not going to be able to shoot immediately afterwards

So what do you mean by no control

[coral trellis]

Yall arnt using your heads you guys immediately go to skill right after

[coral trellis]

Jesues christ what happens after you pull the trigger

[eager spire]

you're the one complaining that you can't hit targets because you can't steer your fucking bullets after you shoot

[idle lion]

tbh snipers should keep their current 1hit hs and 2hit everywhere else. but the lmgs and the ak need to lose some long range accuracy

[coral trellis]

The bullet Flys out of the barrel after that you have no control and the person can just move and you won't hit

[coral trellis]

Already a thing

[royal trail]

im so stoked for season 4 that i cant sleep, its 1:38 am

[eager spire]

well, that's just getting unlucky, that's life.

[fervent rose]

you have to predict your shot, yeah

[royal trail]

rip

[eager spire]

Everyone has to deal with it.

[fervent rose]

you're trying to instant kill somebody very far away

tf

[coral trellis]

Yes

[eager spire]

The game shouldn't be balanced around you getting mad that you're getting unlucky.

[charred stag]

Dude clearly you just can't snipe man. Not everyone is meant to be a sniper in battlefield and that's ok

[pine roost]

Just aim up a bit

[coral trellis]

But I can snipe

[pine roost]

It’s not that deep

[eager spire]

clearly not well

[pine roost]

If you can snipe WHY ARE YOU COMPLAINING

[fervent rose]

you are not good at sniping if you want it changed

end of story

[charred stag]

If you could snipe you wouldn't be asking to buff the damage so it can one hit kill to the body

[idle lion]

i think he played CSGO

[slender isle]

Sniping atm is pretty perfect

[coral trellis]

No

[charred stag]

Yes

[coral trellis]

I've never played csgo

[charred stag]

He is right

[fervent rose]

you can say whatever you want. but you're not good at bf sniping lol

[pine roost]

I literally cannot see a reason why you’d want it to oneshot bodyshot when you are already capable of landing shots

[charred stag]

Exactly

[coral trellis]

Yall are gatekeeping the issue you guys don't want any change to snipers

[charred stag]

Because no changes are needed

[coral trellis]

You guys want them to be as useless as possible

[fervent rose]

"gatekeeping" isnt some magic i win phrase in an argument

jesus man

[pine roost]

Ah yes, snipers are useless

[fervent rose]

you are wrong here

[coral trellis]

Lmfao

[fervent rose]

it's such a silly thing i see people do

[eager spire]

Making something require effort to do well is not gatekeeping

[fervent rose]

"you're gatekeeping blah blah blah"

[sturdy socket]

if you want oneshot snipers go boot up bf4 and play maps with the AMR-2 and M82A3

[charred stag]

Bro just accept that you can't snipe and be done with it man

[coral trellis]

Lmao I recall you saying a counter for this

[sturdy socket]

sniping is damn good right now honestly, it feels better than 4's

[coral trellis]

Except I can

[eager spire]

If you can, then why are you complaining?

[pine roost]

So there’s no reason for you to complain

[fervent rose]

a conundrum

[eager spire]

Why do you suddenly want it to be easier?

[coral trellis]

Using a sniper for medium range combat when snipers are supposed to be used at long range combat

[charred stag]

A good sniper wouldn't want changes to make the sniper even more overpowered

[royal swan]

Bring back ohk potential in close contact sniping. As a reward for using a long range gun in a situation that can mostly not go in your favor

[pine roost]

If you can headshot - then them making it oneshot bodyshot will do LITERALLY nothing if what you say holds true

[limpid pond]

Nope no one's allowed to complain accept me

[fervent rose]

they also wouldnt want the enemy player to have easier shots

[copper ice]

snipers exist to instakill stationary targets

and do damage over 100m

[limpid pond]

Wrong

You are

Wrong

[copper ice]

every other situation it's SVK

[pine roost]

It will only lead to more instances where YOU die when you wouldn’t have if they remained oneshot headshot

[limpid pond]

Snipers exist to kill stationary targets

And do damage over 100m

[tough folio]

ntw is annoying

[coral trellis]

Smgs and shotguns for short range. Assualt rifles lmgs dmrs marksmen rifles for long and medium range and marksman and dmr and snipers for long range

[copper ice]

Irish NTW is the way forward

[limpid pond]

No it's the way backward

[drowsy shuttle]

not really because of the range... i rarely die to NTW

[fervent rose]

irish ntw is some clown shit lmao

[copper ice]

but irl you can use all of these at most ranges

[limpid pond]

Ntw I swear is trash

[charred stag]

Exactly. Having a duel in battlefield between snipers is supposed to be a challenge. A fun challenge. But it would be like call of duty if they made it one shot to the body. "Whoever gets the shot first wins"

[limpid pond]

Unless you're mad close to someone

[fervent rose]

thats a genuine crutch if you run that always

[granite island]

5 gigabyte update

[tough folio]

nah, you just be running around to drop to some corner camper with ntw

[copper ice]

Irish ntw like the most brutal Jack in the box in the world

[pine roost]

The logic here is entierly backwards. You want snipers to oneshot body shot, to make sniping up close easier, yet you clearly state here that snipers are long range only

[limpid pond]

Wrong

[eager spire]

this person's full of shit, they're not real.

[limpid pond]

Irish ntw like the most brutal Jack in the box in the world

[copper ice]

it's fucking annoying, as is Irish

[limpid pond]

Wrong

[royal swan]

And the guy shouldn't get the reward? You didn't check your corners fast enough

[limpid pond]

it's fucking annoying, as is Irish

[copper ice]

i haaaaate iriiiiiish

[tough folio]

like half the playerbase isnt real

[pine roost]

Maintaining one shot headshot makes it less viable at close range, thus following that idea of snipers being ‘long range only’

[limpid pond]

Maintaining one shot headshot makes it less viable at close range, thus following that idea of snipers being ‘long range only’

[pine roost]

Im not carrying on with this, im too tired

[charred stag]

Yeah man I'm done

[limpid pond]

That means you're a bicycle

[tough folio]

nah its just no skill. kinda lame death. alot of people to keep track of if a point is contested

[pine roost]

What else are we talking about

[limpid pond]

Two tired get it

[royal trail]

irish bf4 skin soon dope

[limpid pond]

Ahahahhahahahaha

[royal swan]

Give the snipers a buff for the fact they are completely obsolete compared to the railgun

[limpid pond]

Railgun shows how bad people's aim is

[charred stag]

Or nerf the railgun

[fervent rose]

or maybe you should bring the railgun in line

[limpid pond]

I love hearing 20 bullet miss me

[pine roost]

I’d still use a regular sniper over the rail gun for mobility and flick potential

[limpid pond]

What if it wants to be inna circle

[fervent rose]

@limpid pond some people actually cannot use it and its hilarious

[limpid pond]

Not very inclusive are we

[fervent rose]

but the people that can use it, jeez

[royal swan]

Maybe learn next time, you found his spot, try countering him.

[limpid pond]

Yeah it actually is funny how people can't use it. Like bruh hitscan

[pine roost]

Like on the above clip, if I had the rail gun I would have probably died

[royal swan]

Mistakes are a way of learning, you gotta face casual play (like the ntw in corners) to be better at the game

[opal swallow]

Around what time doua update drop on 28th?

[royal swan]

For pacific time it's 4 in the morning

[limpid pond]

Yes ntw corner campers don't compare to the casual lcmg or avancys prone player

[pine roost]

That’s why movement exists :)

[fervent rose]

the actual patch is 3 hours earlier i think

[quaint vector]

#direct-communication

[slender isle]

I usually sniper to get a KD boost

[limpid pond]

Okay when exactly does the battlepass launch

[fervent rose]

7am EST i think

[limpid pond]

Cause isn't it like 4 hours after the release of the update

7am?

[limpid pond]

Est is my time too

[fervent rose]

nope

wrong

only mine

[limpid pond]

Yeah wrong

I agree with yoyo

[limpid pond]

You're wrong

[quaint vector]

[slender isle]

7:30 pm for update and 10:30 pm for the BP

well guess I'm not sleeping

[royal swan]

Make dozer's riot shield protect his back

[eager spire]

how about no

[royal swan]

Not going to do much tbh

Most combat is facing forward

[royal trail]

idk why a bump from a plate kills u

[royal swan]

And the fact you can shoot feet

[charred stag]

It would be overpowered in objectives

[limpid pond]

Wrong

[copper ice]

fuck dozer

[limpid pond]

It's a bowl not a plate

[fervent rose]

shield on back isnt fun. and it would be op

[limpid pond]

That's wack

[royal swan]

That's because it's a close combat game. In a large game like battlefield, it's only an obstacle for flankers

[fervent rose]

wack on wack

it's wacked out

[royal swan]

You can SHOOT THE FEET

[royal trail]

a shield never killed anyone, cmon

[slender isle]

His shield should wrap around his head when not in use\

[quaint vector]

Make dozer's riot shield protect his back and front.

[royal swan]

that could be a glitch if added

Legit could happen

[slender isle]

Give him the montagne buff in siege

or the blitz flash

[quaint vector]

Dozer should have light on that shield, so he can make players blind.

[coral trellis]

Or how bad snipers are

[royal swan]

Dozer does need a buff, to compete with specialist like McKay

[granite island]

Is Flashpoint the 3rd south Africa map

Or 2nd

[copper ice]

dozer surf when

[royal trail]

dozer can have lights to blind but remove the lethal bump

[pine roost]

They could do something wacky like make the shield extend, covering his whole body and some more on the side but he can’t attack and moves slower.

[slender isle]

Give him the ability to prone with shield

[pine roost]

Therefore acting as mobile cover that can still be countered

[fervent rose]

i should be able to surf on top of a prone dozer player

[royal swan]

Just put it on his back for protection

[slender isle]

so monty from siege?

[pine roost]

Then he actually somewhat fulfills the assault archetype of pushing forward but has some counterplay

[granite island]

Give him a flamethrower

[pine roost]

I guess

[copper fulcrum]

I think we've learned our lesson with blinding things in BF4

[pine roost]

Forgot that guy existed

[granite island]

We need a flamethrower in 2042

[fervent rose]

he already can do that pretty easily

[slender isle]

He should just be able to throw nades over his shield when it is out

[fervent rose]

you can run like 10 smoke and then sprint at them and press mouse 1

[pine roost]

I suppose so

[quaint vector]

Dozer should be able to throw his shield within 100m

[pine roost]

But that’s more of a solo rush

Ah idk

[granite island]

Captain america

[pine roost]

I don’t use him enough to know for certain

[granite island]

Give him a circle shield

[fervent rose]

you can definitely front line rush with him

which yes is a "solo" rush but people should follow

[pine roost]

I can see the potency of using him with smoke though

Im picturing second flag of spearhead

[quaint vector]

And slice 10 enemy players with flank.

[fervent rose]

biggest problem is APS countering everything tbh

[slender isle]

Guys, we are we looking at his shield to buff him

[pine roost]

Actually you know what, I’ll give him a try tomorrow to see what he’s like

[granite island]

Man I'm gonna wake up at 3am

When it drops

[slender isle]

Let's just make him take 70% less explosive damage

[fervent rose]

i think irish aps disrupts the smoke strat somewhat

it counters basically everything

[quaint vector]

I have to wake up in 7 Hours.. Might go sleep soon

[copper ice]

it counters pretty much everything

[royal swan]

Actually putting the shield on dozer's back can counter the corner campers

That are using ntw

[slender isle]

Make the NTW go through the shield

[fervent rose]

if i could headshot dozers with AP ntw 50 ammo

i'd laugh

[copper ice]

1 kill per 200 games

[fervent rose]

still funny

[slender isle]

Me when I can shoot a tank with AP rounds and it does a tone of damage but nothing to a ballistics shield

[copper ice]

makes it funnier tbh

[royal swan]

It deflects the fucking shell and kills you

That would be more hilarious, deflecting a tank shell that will one shot the tank that fired it

[granite island]

Give boris sentry aimbot

And faster fire rate

[royal swan]

Give Boris the ability to control the turret

[granite island]

And let me place it on walls

And ceilings

[quaint vector]

I still remember when DICE removed Dozer's shield for like 2-3 days after BF2042 release because it stopped everything and no HP were taken.

[pine roost]

Take away lis’ ability to see vehicles through walls and make it so boris’ turret takes a snapshot of a vehicle it targets to his hud

[royal swan]

That would be really fun if we could do that, controlling Boris turret

[fervent rose]

if i get killed by a borisbot on a ceiling i might uninstall

[royal swan]

Actually that could be a decent feature, controlling the Boris turret.

Just have it where you gotta be in that circle

[limpid pond]

I read that as borishot so the wrong thing happened in my head

[royal swan]

Mf is thinking about Boris in a speedo

[granite island]

Can I please blow up the doors

I'm tired of the force open

[royal swan]

Can I have my doors open with one interaction instead of a hold interaction

[fervent rose]

hold interactions are a plague on gaming

[arctic grove]

Whut da heeelllllll

[ebon pilot]

why are people trying to force doors open when you can just make your own door

it's battlefield

[arctic grove]

Bc we are gentlemen

[ebon pilot]

just blow up the wall

[pine roost]

But it just got repainted

[ebon pilot]

fuck being a gentleman, it's all about being a roughman

[royal swan]

What

[ebon pilot]

use c5

please

[granite island]

Best assault weapon with no recoil?

[pine roost]

Better get a puffer jacket then

[granite island]

My God I hate autocorrect

[pine roost]

P51

[royal swan]

Um a d###o

[ebon pilot]

i'm tired of losing breakthrough games because nobody realizes you can just blow up the walls around a point

[royal swan]

[pine roost]

Be the shining star that guides them to victory

[past flare]

breakaway 128 is impossible to attack

[limpid pond]

This is me in every gamemode

[arctic grove]

Whut

[limpid pond]

Especially rush right now but luckily I can carry a team of 15 in place of 63

[arctic grove]

That’s bait

[past flare]

I haven't gotten past the first obj yet

[limpid pond]

Some people feel that way cause they suck

[past flare]

5 plants

[arctic grove]

Fr

[copper ice]

This requires explosives

[ebon pilot]

does nobody carry c5 or dumb-fired rockets since the class update?

[limpid pond]

Plants is rish bruh

Dudes talking about rush xl

Lmaooooo

Not breakthrough

[pine roost]

I always carry an m5 if I’m engineer

[thick shadow]

Someone tell me why people love causing panic on Internet news pages for absolutely no reason

[limpid pond]

I carry a sugma

[royal swan]

[limpid pond]

[thick shadow]

@limpid pond You know ial?

[limpid pond]

Who's ial

[thick shadow]

ial drag deez bolls across ur face lmao

[turbid geode]

lmao

[grim pulsar]

i was so good that round, the game gave me 2 APS instead of one

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/479794973504569347/1079925452774330408/image.png

[stiff pollen]

It’s fun

[dusky token]

1am PT time, I can't wait

[slender isle]

Okay guys, let

let's hate on the BF3 maps in 2042

I'll start

THEY ALL SUCK

AND HAVE SUCKED FOR A DECADE

[dusky token]

Not all suck though I like some of them but yeah majority suck

[sick minnow]

https://tenor.com/view/we-do-a-little-speculation-we-do-a-little-speculation-gif-sharks-office-speculation-gif-24940290

[slender isle]

Caspian border is just 😠

[dusky token]

Nah it's actually decent, it's just the other bf1942 maps suck a lot

I've had my tank suck on a broken tree before and I'm like what is going on why can't I go anywhere

[white geyser]

Operation firestorm 2014 from BF4... I was busy lighting everything on fire

[slender isle]

Caspian border is the worst map ever

it has the same exact effect that the base 2042 maps had at launch

[dusky token]

Bring back operation metro 2014

[slender isle]

just open everywhere

[dusky token]

I want that map back

Or operation locker

[wise zodiac]

Caspian was fun if you played armor or in a helicopter.

Chopper Gunner here.

[wide shore]

I’ve always liked Caspian.

Even as a majority infantry player

Fighting over C is fun.

[slender isle]

I'll admit, C is fun, everything else isn't

[wise zodiac]

I would fight all around the main gate & the intersection with the gas station as infantry

I dont remember what objectives those were.

[slender isle]

B I think

A is in the middle of nowhere

[wise zodiac]

B and E?

[white geyser]

I thought the 2014 Caspian border would be better than its original counterpart

[wise zodiac]

Because A was next to the big tower

[slender isle]

Yeah, A is in the middle out the way

[wide shore]

I like the hill and the woods

[slender isle]

E is the lil village

[wide shore]

And yeah the gas station and stuff

[wise zodiac]

B was gate, C was forest, D was the big hill, E was ??

E was gas station?

[slender isle]

Yeah

[wise zodiac]

Yeah, I fought on foot at B and E

I brought in my chopper on C and D.

And my LAV on all of them

[wide shore]

Speaking of caspian. Did you guys see that Flashpoint is using the BF3 collapsible building in it?

I noticed it in a gameplay video yesterday

Might be the first 2042 main map to have a collapsible building

[slender isle]

I did yeah

the warehouse with green on it right?

[wide shore]

The same one at the border checkpoint on caspian

[slender isle]

I didn't see that

[wide shore]

They used that model everywhere in BF3. Kharg Island had it in like 5 spots. Lol

Oh? I’ll find the video I saw it in rq

Bloop

Right on G1

[slender isle]

ooooooo

[ebon pilot]

reusing portal assets? how dare they

[slender isle]

I've been saying they should be doing this since the first rework

[wide shore]

Ripple effect making use of the good assets

[shy perch]

Whens update come out?

[slender isle]

Like most of the Arica Harbour and BF3 assets would work great on discarded and hourglass

[slender isle]

7 hours

[grim pulsar]

6hrs for me

[wide shore]

Absolutely

[shy perch]

Well atleast it’ll still be Tuesday

[grim pulsar]

..actually

[shy perch]

Etter than Wednesday tmr

Better*

[wide shore]

Drops at 7AM EST, which will be, 10 more hours for me

[slender isle]

Maybe we'll see more

Also around I think it's E or C there are the warehouses we can see on the bf3 kanal map

[wide shore]

There’s definitely a good bit of destruction on Flashpoint which is good

Shame it seems we’ll never get a map that is just nothing but destructible assets like we used to

[slender isle]

I mean... we never got that fully

[rocky kraken]

guys

[slender isle]

At least not since BC2

[rocky kraken]

do yall think call ins will come with squad management

[wide shore]

St Quentin Scar, Soissons, Arras, Mercury

BF1 and BFV had plenty of maps like that

[slender isle]

St Quentin has the ruins you can't flatten

I don't even remember the others cause they were DLC maps

[wide shore]

I mean BC2 had shit you couldn’t destroy too

[slender isle]

Exactly, it's never full been a thing

[wide shore]

What I mean, is just a map full of destructible assets. Not nothing but, but mostly.

Shit like, Arica, Cold War, White Pass

Golly I miss white pass

[slender isle]

Valparaiso is probably closer to fully destructible than Arica

[wide shore]

Well, yeah cause nothing collapses on that map. lol. Everything just deletes

[slender isle]

But flashpoint seems to be more inline with like Noshahr Kanals

in terms of having many destructible assets, but certain parts that don't

[wide shore]

Reminds me of Operation Firestorm, but with a few more buildings.

[slender isle]

Exactly, quite bf3 esq

[next gulch]

Arica had more memorable destruction because of the town, could completely level it and that's where most rounds stalemated

[wide shore]

Conquest on Arica was nothing but the town.

That shit would get completely leveled every single time.

That rules

Wish I could make a version of CQ like that on portal

[next gulch]

Atacama Desert no one seems to remember, I loved that map, again the little town's you could really damage

[wide shore]

I only don’t like Atacama because the spawn trapping was nightmarish

[next gulch]

Stranded is kind of similar in concept, just much less fun

[rapid flint]

guys countdown to season 4?

[wide shore]

Enemy bases not being off limits to the enemy team in bc2 was such a voracious oversight by DICE.

[next gulch]

yeah spawn camping was pretty ridiculous before BF3 lol

[wide shore]

They rectified it in Vietnam. But never fixed it in the base game

You could just stand in the enemy base and wait for them to pop in.

They could steal your tanks and your heli and just sit there.

God, I have flashbacks of being on there receiving end of that shit

[next gulch]

It didn't happen that much on console, but PC I bet

[wide shore]

I played on Xbox

[next gulch]

in fact happens all the time right now on PC Lol because only sweats remain that play it

[wide shore]

It happened on all the big maps. Atacama and Port Valdez were both awful for that

[next gulch]

I don't bother playing BC2 anymore on PC for that reason, impossible to enjoy now with all the cheese that goes on

[wide shore]

Laguna Alta also had bad spawn traps cause both enemy bases were 1 road in, 1 road out, between canyons.

[next gulch]

and it's dead completely on Xbox now, so can't really play BC2 at all. Portal was my only hope and that was a dud

[acoustic seal]

just recreate the experience in 2042 by spawn camping with a super hind

[wide shore]

I like that Arica has the whole map for CQ. But like I said, I wish I could move the flags and have one just in the town like the old days.

[wide shore]

Still not even close to being as bad

[shell ermine]

New Arica Conquest kinda sucks

They added a whole new area for Valparaiso, they should've done that for Arica

[rocky kraken]

exodus conquest should be permanent

just saying

[shell ermine]

The highway and military base area are entirely unused in CQ and the town is underused

[potent trench]

I just want BC2/BF3 tier of destruction

cause BF4 there was less

though admittedly BF1 had a lot of destruction, since most of the buildings in that game feels "makeshift" like it is on BC2

[next gulch]

combine BF4's levelution with BC2 destruction amirite

[potent trench]

truest

I also wish DICE acknowledge more of BC1
there was that farm map on BC1 that I loved

[wide shore]

Harvest Day?

[potent trench]

lemme cek

i genuinely dont remember the map name in bc1 on top of my head

[next gulch]

yeah It was Harvest Day, BC1 is how I got into BF

[potent trench]

ah yes, harvest day

[next gulch]

so much nostalgia for that game, even though if you play it now.....yeesh but maps were solid

[wide shore]

BC1 is also what brought me in. But I didn’t play it online cause I didn’t have XBL. LOL

BC2 was my first BF game online.

[potent trench]

I played quite a lot of BC1 since that was the first time I bought a Battlefield game with my own hard-earned cash and played the shit outta it

but back then I wasn't much of a "console" gamer as I am today

[wide shore]

They brought Harvest Day and Oasis into BC2 though. Great maps

[potent trench]

so some part feels weird lol

[potent trench]

they did? I don't remember

[wide shore]

They did. It was a “free dlc” at the time.

[potent trench]

but then again, I didn't have too much money for BC2 back then so I didn't buy BC2 during its prime

[slender isle]

Harvest day? as in corn

[potent trench]

I jumped straight to BF3 after BC1

I only bought BC2 back in 2013 for the campaign

since it was on sale for $11

[shell ermine]

BC2 was the last time Rush was good

[wide shore]

Best part about BC1 was it was rated T. And I was 13 when it came out. So I didn’t have to have mom buy it for me.

[next gulch]

Oasis in BC2 is straight up trash

[potent trench]

same here LOL
looks like we're around the same age group

my first ever Battlefield was Vietnam tho, but that was my dad's

[wide shore]

[shell ermine]

I'll never not be annoyed that DICE has perpetually ignored maps from Battlefield 2: Modern Combat.

[wide shore]

I liked it a lot. Though I only played conquest.

[shell ermine]

Backstab and Bridge Too Far were great

[wide shore]

Never liked rush even back then.

128p rush though, that’s the good shit.

[potent trench]

Was BF2MC good? I never really looked into it

I just pray that DICE make a good rush map again for 2042
BF3 was the last time I had fun playing rush

[rotund ledge]

anyone wanna gift me bf2042 on steam 🙂

[wide shore]

I played it a bit online because I had it when I got my Xbox 360. But I didn’t play it in it’s prime. I played it after BC2 came out cause I needed to get Veteran status for the M1 Garand.

[rotund ledge]

id love u for life

[potent trench]

tho operation was extremely fun on bf1

[wide shore]

Fucking love Operations

[shell ermine]

It was great, it was real Battlefield. Played a ton of it on the PlayStation 2

[wide shore]

Breakthrough doesn’t hit the same as Ops

[shell ermine]

You could even rent your own server through a proper RSP on consoles

No virtual server crap

[wide shore]

I don’t think I ever hooked my PS2 up to the internet

Not even once

Which is a shame cause I would’ve loved to play Smackdown Vs Raw 2006 online

[shell ermine]

SOCOM, Star Wars Battlefronts, Killzone, BF2MC, COD2 Big Red One, and COD3. I played them online a ton way back when

[wide shore]

I heard all about the PS2 Socom days

[shell ermine]

R6S is garbage compared to SOCOM

[potent trench]

yeah man, fr

[wide shore]

I think my baby ass was too busy brainrotting GTA San Andreas

[potent trench]

I also hate the fact that there's no Commorose option for "GO GO GO"

too many times I spawned in a tank that camped on 2042

[wide shore]

Trench whistle. 😦

[potent trench]

at least if I spam GO GO GO, peeps will at least move lol

yeah, trench whistle too

squad leader means jack shit in this game

[wide shore]

BF1 was just the best. I still play it frequently. I just love it

[potent trench]

while I suggested the game has Commander mode, someone said that squad point in bfv was better

and I think that person was right, played a few hours of BFV again just to jog my memories

nothing like dropping v2 rockets on twisted steel and get 10 kills

[wide shore]

Idk I never played BF when commander was actually useful. I wouldn’t say BF4 commander was really an entirely necessary role, nor a very fun one.

I’ve heard great things about commander from BF2

But that was before my time.

[fervent rose]

bf plays better without it

[wide shore]

I did really like Squad points though.

[fervent rose]

squad points are debatable. i found bfv artillery more annoying than a good addition

[potent trench]

it was fun when the commander app is still active
I played a lot as a commander from my ipad during uni/break time at work

[fervent rose]

v1 ofc is dope

but 2042 points are so open, idk

[wide shore]

I only wish V1’s/Artillery gave assist counts as kill for your whole squad. Cause it’s kinda selfish the leader was the only one that really got any points for it

[glossy storm]

Something I noticed about the Sten in Portal 1942 is that it mimics the OG 1942 animation, complete with mistakes like holding the gun from the magazine. It's basically a modern rendition of a 20 y/o design. So, it makes total sense if they're using that as a base rather than BFV, because the name says 1942 not V.

[shell ermine]

I think the problem is that 2042 doesn't have any good maps

Just okay ones

[wide shore]

I’d argue Orbital is a good map.

[potent trench]

the only bf2042 maps I genuinely enjoyed playing was Exposure

[fervent rose]

i miss the old exposure tunnel fights

[potent trench]

yeah

[fervent rose]

removing that tunnel flag was wack

[glossy storm]

Everytime I play on Kaleidoscope, I keep wishing it could've been something more.

[fervent rose]

nobody wants to go down the hill

[wide shore]

I miss when exposure didn’t exist.

[arctic grove]

I enjoy all maps except for renewal hourglass and maaaybe kaledescope

[potent trench]

you didnt like exposure?

[arctic grove]

Re read what I typed

[wide shore]

I don’t even dislike it. I hate it

[potent trench]

no, was talking to poetic

any reason why? just curious

[arctic grove]

Oh my fault💀

[acoustic seal]

i'm VERY interested in hearing the reasoning

[wide shore]

It’s not fun to play on, and Everytime I matchmake in this game it’s the only map that’s ever available.

A mix of not really liking it and being forced to play it constantly

[potent trench]

the only map I genuinely didn't like was that ship map in alang
it felt way too open and nothing to do but walk

[arctic grove]

So it’s not fun for you

[wide shore]

No.

[potent trench]

but why you didn't like it?
it sounded like you just got annoyed since that's the onlymap that's getting played on

[arctic grove]

Eh understandable

Ppl are mixed with the maps

[potent trench]

as in, why is it not "fun" for you

[wide shore]

The cliffs create a game of hide and seek with the enemy. Above ground is a vehicle haven and flags are spread across the world. The tunnels are fine I guess but I don’t really think the flow is all that great.

I mostly play infantry and I feel like the only way to kinda enjoy the map is to avoid like 90% of it. I want to enjoy the whole map not 10% of it.

[potent trench]

make sense
i agree with the above ground is a vehicle haven. I mostly avoid those points/map unless I spawned with vehicles

[fervent rose]

i see what you're saying but the B C and D in 128 conq exposure is a really cool sequence of linear infantry stuff

[arctic grove]

I just take a jeep and drive around to point to point

[potent trench]

but on the flipside, I love the cliffs between the middle of the map and the bottom of the map
creates a nice verticality for CQ and Breakthru

[fervent rose]

and the old exposure BT layout was easily the best infantry fighting in the game

[wide shore]

I would agree if you didn’t have to cross the caverns. Which again, are plagued by snipers from all sides.

I think exposure is an awesome looking map.

But I do not like how it plays.

[potent trench]

maybe this is different for each region, but no one snipes on Asian server between the caverns lol

[fervent rose]

its not perfect ye

[wide shore]

And it’s the only GD map I can get on man.

Let me play something else dice ffs

[potent trench]

they mostly snipes between the top of the building, and the bottom of the canyon

not between caverns

I'll admit that I'm guilty of sniping between cavern tho, that's how I rack lotsa sniper/DMR kills

[wide shore]

Some of my highest kill games on exposure is just me sitting on a rock with the pre patch BSVM

[potent trench]

but noone does that

[wide shore]

It is like shooting monkeys in a barrel

[potent trench]

how difference does prepatch BSVM and postpatch BSVM anyway
that weapon is still my go to lol

[wide shore]

Believe it or not. It was better

[arctic grove]

Really better

[fervent rose]

you could head body to 150 i think

[arctic grove]

Like holy shit better

[wide shore]

Less recoil, somehow. And 3-2 BTK at all ranges

[fervent rose]

launch bsvm might have been the best gun in bf history

[wide shore]

I think I agree

[potent trench]

BSVM is my most used weapons and I never feels any difference between pre and post LOL

[fervent rose]

i mean i dont remember anything nearly as powerful tbh

it was grossly op at range

[wide shore]

Don’t get me wrong. It’s still fucking amazing

[arctic grove]

They did a nice job nerfing it

It’s still a viable weapon but not as op as it used to be

[potent trench]

I got ~3600 kills on BSV
my 2nd most used weapons is like ~2000 kills

[wide shore]

It’s still one of the best guns in the entire game. Yet I hardly ever die to it

[potent trench]

I see

maybe because I got used to it so I don't mind it too mcuh

like muscle memory or something

[fervent rose]

small mag, low rate of fire, tiny ammo pool

people just want to pew pew

[arctic grove]

All I know is ima love the rm68

[wide shore]

I suppose. But that firepower is gnarly

[fervent rose]

bsvm is definitely the best if you have an ammo box

[potent trench]

oh, is it because I only use the BSVM as SMG instead of whatever it is intended to do?

[wide shore]

BSV always reminded me of the Chauchat. And I LOVE the Chauchat

[potent trench]

cause I only use it with close combat ammo

i never used the other

[wide shore]

Oh, maybe

[fervent rose]

haha it's a chauchat on turbo crack

[potent trench]

i mostly hipfire with the bsvm
that thing deletes everything lol

[arctic grove]

Also the ac9 needs a range nerf tbh from watching the gameplay the range it can hit and still kill fast is crazy

[fervent rose]

yeah High Power Extended is the really good ammo

[wide shore]

With the high power rounds, it did 2-3 shots per kill at all ranges pre patch. Now it does 3-4.

[potent trench]

ohhh

yeah that make sense

i strictly use it as SMG with close quarter ammo since the guns loooks cool

like my fav weapon from bc1, the 9a1 something lol

[wide shore]

I’d try it with the high power extended and short barrel. Even at point blank the damage is about the same. And it can be used at any range with the same damage

[potent trench]

I see, I'll give it a try after the patch

9A91, there we go

[wide shore]

Yeah I haven’t played in like 2 weeks. Waiting for the new season

[fervent rose]

the bsv's smg ammo does pretty low damage

but it does reward headshots unlike the other real smgs now

[wide shore]

Yeah

Got that DMR headshot multiplier

[potent trench]

this must be why I love it lol

[wide shore]

(A prime example why they shouldn’t blanket the headshot damage)

[potent trench]

BSVM feels consistent to me

[wide shore]

AM40 is the same way. It’s basically an SMG but it has an AR headshot multiplier. Makes it cracked

[potent trench]

also I'm hoping DICE adds more attachment to vault weps
I need ext mag on my M16A3

[wide shore]

From what I saw, the Type 88 looks quite good. The MTAR and PP2000 feel great now. I hope all portal weapons can get put in-line now.

I want them to feel like part of the weapon pool, not just additions.

That said I’m excited for all the new guns

RPT mostly. Cause I’m an LMG guy

[hexed mango]

rpt looks sexy

[rocky kraken]

MY GOD

bf4 feels miles beter

jesus

[hexed mango]

fallen

[astral pumice]

question: did they change the "Slide"? It feels different since the last update

It used to be smooth

[kindred flint]

cash me outside abusing that one when i unlock it

right up until they nerf LMGs because dice doesnt understand weapon balance

[rotund ledge]

i like that mw2 got rid of slide cancelling

bf2042 encourages sweaty movement

[potent trench]

they'll nerf LMG?
zamn, I should've reached T1 Avancys first instead of grinding on FFXIV

[rocky kraken]

i hate 2042 slide

the movement is way to floaty

and cod like

[next gulch]

CALL OF DOODY AMIRITE

[kindred flint]

because right now theyre just big ARs...dont know when they plan on going through with it but youll have enough time to farm t1 with the ava..its op still

[rotund ledge]

agreed

bf2042 has such bad movement

[tough wolf]

this sounds like bad player speak

[next gulch]

2042 is bad.......please clap

[rotund ledge]

2042 needs to be put in the ground

[tough wolf]

y'all should head back to Valorant. Or CS:GO. that seems about your speed

e.g. slow. bad playres only

[arctic grove]

Yea srsly 2042 movement ain’t the best

But it’s certainly ain’t ass

[potent trench]

they had it perfect on V imho

[next gulch]

it's as good as BFV's was, which was excellent so idk if we're playing same game

[tough wolf]

literally the best movement in the whole series
and kids say it's ass

[potent trench]

2042 addition of tacsprint was weird

[arctic grove]

Yea idk why ppl call it ass

It’s fine

[next gulch]

it's literally same movement as BFVs

[tough wolf]

like... do u not know how to move fast

[kindred flint]

sliding is a stupid mechanic

[tough wolf]

and shoot at the same time

[potent trench]

but we've had sliding since bf1

i think it's fine

[arctic grove]

I think bc it has sliding and tac sprint that makes its “bad” to some ppl

[potent trench]

i just dont see why they added tacsprint

[rotund ledge]

nah

too sweaty

[arctic grove]

[rotund ledge]

mw2 has a good balance

[tough wolf]

[fervent rose]

tacsprint is kinda stupid

but its whatever

[potent trench]

yet MWII is more sweaty than BF2042 lol

[arctic grove]

Exactly

[rotund ledge]

not really that, just promotes unrealistic animations

[arctic grove]

ITS A FUCKING VIDEO GAME

[tough wolf]

it's battlefield lmoa

it's a video game

[rotund ledge]

ofc it is

[tough wolf]

and it's battlefield

[arctic grove]

why do u need realism

[rotund ledge]

doesn't mean it cant be visually appealing

[tough wolf]

battlefield was never realistic lol

[fervent rose]

i dont think the regular WASD movement is as good as bfv though

[tough wolf]

was never meant to be

[fervent rose]

2042 feels delayed

[arctic grove]

That’s what it should’ve been at launch

[tough wolf]

the game just has input delay in general tho

[fervent rose]

yea but you cant say its better than bfv movement

it feels worse

[tough wolf]

it's one of the only faults I still have with the game

[arctic grove]

sigh if only wa let dice delay the game bro

[rotund ledge]

bf4 was a great realistic experience imo

[arctic grove]

They kept gassing that shit up

[rotund ledge]

bf2042 went below that threshold

[tough wolf]

?!??!?!

do you not remember Zouzou jumping?

in bf4

[warm stirrup]

6 more hours guys!

[rotund ledge]

I do, but didn't prefer it

[fervent rose]

or just air strafing, the intended mechanic

[arctic grove]

So what who tf cares

[rotund ledge]

would rather it be taken out

[fervent rose]

ignore the bugs

[rotund ledge]

battlefield fans

[arctic grove]

Slow movement overrated stg

It makes shit boring

[warm stirrup]

Update in 6 hours

[rotund ledge]

thankfully, you aren't a dev or project manager for dice

[next gulch]

2042 being rushed was a good thing

[potent trench]

im a battlefield fans and I think it's fine
except maybe tac sprint, that added literally nothing

[rocky kraken]

i mean

[tough wolf]

thankfully you arent

[fervent rose]

2042 isn't really slow thankfully