battlefield-2042

[summer lake]

Irish and APS saves the game

[eager spire]

ah so irish counters it except in the instances where the game doesn't work

[dapper river]

I've gotten killed by frags THROUGH WALLS at points. DICE. PLS. FIX.

[eager spire]

fantastic

[arctic grove]

grenade aoe complainers when I make them play insurgency (suddenly battlefield grenades arent so bad)

[pine roost]

is the cav in the transport section?

[acoustic seal]

local battlefield player shocked to find insurgency is not a battlefield clone

[remote meteor]

I am looking forward to the new season:)

[fervent rose]

i think so ye

[limpid pond]

Yes I've been killed through a wall by a nade like 300 times now

[dapper river]

Pre-3.2.0 Irish shootdown was great! It's still very good, but kind of buggy now

[pine roost]

if it's in the transport section then fair dos

[limpid pond]

I'm not afraid of walls

Now*

[pine roost]

I still won't play it but I wouldn't expect it to be in the armour section

[fervent rose]

its like a mav-lite

[limpid pond]

Yeah I've noticed that

S9me of my c5's get through

[sour meadow]

bruh i SWEAR battlefield youtubers have some kind of backdoor deal with DICE where they fight bot accounts that can't aim

[limpid pond]

You talking about maxiq?

[acoustic seal]

if you can't find the bot players, you are one of the bot players

[sour meadow]

all of them lol

[fervent rose]

crossplay off console youtubers are the funniest

[sour meadow]

they all on my team

[limpid pond]

Yeah but I've noticed it's only eu youtubers that get bots

[sour meadow]

i'm exaggerating

i don't mean actual bots

[limpid pond]

I know

Shit players

[sour meadow]

like you watch jackfrags and he has so many encounters where it's like "what was that person thinking"

[pine roost]

oh neil i'm at the bit where alex talks about his favourite gun

[fervent rose]

they have a much bigger playerbase. more casuals to run into

[dapper river]

Just be better 😎

[limpid pond]

No one actually thinks bots are bots unless you say ai

[pine roost]

woah hold up, he's changed his profile picture

[sour meadow]

it's not about me it's about the others

[pine roost]

THAT's NOT ALLOWED

[sour meadow]

also wtf is heli flight assist

[sturdy socket]

looking forward to actual drum/extended nerfs hopefully this season

[pine roost]

forces the heli to be vertical all the time. Imagine having constant stick drift on controller that you can't get rid of

[limpid pond]

Maxiq is the #1 youtuber I see playing against bots

Dude will stand in front of 6 people and they shoot past him and don't see him somehow

[sour meadow]

oh i'm on pc

[sour meadow]

meanwhile i pull a great flank and some rando is sitting in a corner and sees me

doing nothing but waiting for a kill

[broken crown]

^

[pine roost]

it's still a thing on pc

that's what I use, I just used stick drift as an analogy

[broken crown]

kills 8 people on the way to flank gets there sniped instantly

[sour meadow]

i tried using it but didn't see a difference

[pine roost]

EXACTLY

turning it off doesn't turn it off

which is the problem

[limpid pond]

That's 80% of my flanks

[sour meadow]

fuckin

[limpid pond]

Or it's like a random nade lands where I'm at

[sour meadow]

someone's dad sitting on the couch with a 60 inch tv

[limpid pond]

Exactly no headphones just stereo

Dude turns around with a lmg and kills you

Never makes sense to me

[sour meadow]

"here's what 2000 hours of battlefield looks like" = "here's me getting really lucky against braindead players"

i feel like all the non-content creators are the ones actually playing the games

[fervent rose]

you can play melee only in those maxiq lobbies

[rocky kraken]

Yeah

[limpid pond]

Yeah idk how eu player gets no crossplay lobbies man

I turn off crossplay and it seems like I got banned can't find a game

[sour meadow]

is Maxiq in EU?

[limpid pond]

Not even a lobby with bots in it

Yes

[rocky kraken]

Not sure

[limpid pond]

Maxiq is eu

[sour meadow]

i'm in the US and I usually play at prime time. so that's like midnight in EU or so

with crossplay on

[limpid pond]

Yeah I play crossplay on too

I'm na east

I run into people like enders

[pine roost]

is it actually possible to play with crossplay off?

might try it

[rocky kraken]

Rip

[limpid pond]

Not on na

[eager spire]

I feel like that's a very cynical way of looking at it, to be honest. More realistically, there's probably more going on in terms of higher level gameplay that you just simply don't notice.

[limpid pond]

Wdym rip

[sour meadow]

depends on your platform i guess

[rocky kraken]

You can

There’s a toggle

I’m pretty sure

[pine roost]

i know you can, but cant you find matches

[limpid pond]

It's not gonna work

[sour meadow]

like the players not magically knowing you're there and camping a corner?

[limpid pond]

No

Not matches for na

You'll think you got shadow banned

You won't find shit

[sour meadow]

it's almost like there should be a server browser

[copper ice]

Not on PC

[sour meadow]

idk

i guess i'm just salty and bad

[eager spire]

probably.

[sour meadow]

but idk how you can't be angy when you pull the perfect flank and die to some bullshit

[turbid geode]

Boris's sentry sucks

[copper ice]

you mean breaks it

[pine roost]

they narrowly avoided the scone argument

thank goodness

[sour meadow]

eh?

[pine roost]

in the podcast

[sour meadow]

wth is the scone argument

[pine roost]

it's a can of worms you don't want to open

[sour meadow]

is this an European thing

[copper ice]

[pine roost]

I'm guessing based on that response

[sour meadow]

never had a scone

i live in rural america

[turbid geode]

why did they give boris a sentry that takes awhile to target an enemy and proceeds to miss every shot because the enemy is moving

[sour meadow]

do you stand next to it

[turbid geode]

yes

it still misses horribly

[sour meadow]

idk then

not the most consistent thing

i'd treat it more of a auto scanner than a turret

[pine roost]

ayo there's the shoutout

[turbid geode]

they should make the ranger boris's ability

[copper ice]

remove its anti infantry capability entirely

give it decent anti armour damage

its dogshit right now

[pine roost]

automatic turrets simply shouldn't have been added in the first place

you can't make them balanced

[copper ice]

full agreement

thats why it should only target vehicles

[turbid geode]

I flanked the enemy and put the sentry down and the sentry targeted infantry rather than the LATV with the GL

it missed the majority of it's shots

[copper ice]

even if it shoots vehicles it does almost no damage

it is genuinely insanely bad

[turbid geode]

it can't even track moving players and vehicles properly

[copper ice]

I see a lot of borises and ive been killed by boris turret ONCE because i let myself die to see how long it would take for it to actually kill something

he's by far the worst spec right now

[vocal tusk]

Make it a vehicle only targeting railgun like the rorsch. Give it similar health to the ranger, make its range for standing next to it 2/3x larger.

[copper ice]

and his passive only effects his dogshit turret, so he's useless

[pine roost]

as it stands the turret is purely meant to spot a target and alert you that someone is there

[copper ice]

change his passive entirely

standing next to the turret will just get you killed by vehicles targeting it

and vehicles should be targeting it because it should be actually damaging vehicles

[turbid geode]

if they want boris to have a sentry then just give him the ranger

atleast it has somewhat better tracking

and it follows you

[grim pulsar]

cool new RENEWAL map

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/479794973504569347/1079868819448791151/image.png

[sour meadow]

well that's new

[pine roost]

hold up

YES

they reduced the countdown timers and stuff

[sour meadow]

sex in battlefield?

[pine roost]

thank goodness

👏

[sour meadow]

battlefield sex mod (working 2012)

cooldown timers on what

[pine roost]

joining a map

you know, waiting 5 seconds. Waiting 20 seconds, cutscene, mandatory exposition, another cutscene, yada yada

[sour meadow]

oh yea that cut that down

[arctic grove]

I'm not a fan of the sentry gun either

[vocal tusk]

Yeah, and you can setup loadouts on the pregame loading screen.

[limpid pond]

Me to everyone in chat rn

Get tbagged losers

[pine roost]

I would often tab out, go looking through youtube, come back and it's still counting down

[vocal tusk]

It's like this now.

[sour meadow]

is 4.0 preload available for PC yet?

[pine roost]

I even recorded the time it took to get into a game. bfv took 30 seconds and 2042 took 2 minutes

[limpid pond]

Intresting

[pine roost]

that's good. Hopefully if they compress all the countdowns into one it won't be a slog to go through

[summer lake]

I like this

[pine roost]

they never actually mentioned the jet changes in the podcast

bit of a shame

[summer lake]

We’ll have to see tomorrow how effective they are

[pine roost]

I've already got footage recorded to calulcate the differences in turn speeds

[summer lake]

Alright, best of luck tomorrow everyone

[grim pulsar]

if youre on the private beta teste server its fun

[sour meadow]

i just got a warning from the rules bot

saying i did a bad

idek know what i did

[solid imp]

For inquiries please chat at modmail

[sour meadow]

i was talking shit about some youtubers earlier so guess that's why

[dapper river]

Does it actually show your full party now?

Oh no wait, I was thinking about the pregame lobby/menu, before you even load into a server

[sour meadow]

is the new SVD a sniper or marksman rifle?

[solid imp]

I'm assuming you'll still stand around wherever they set up the new menu area while matchmaking

But after finding a server, instead of showing the player cards and x/64 at the bottom you'll see this loadout screen

[summer lake]

Marksman

[pine roost]

Svds in most games are semi auto so I assume it’s a marksman

[summer lake]

DMR

[acoustic oar]

i love that

[sour meadow]

my kingdom for a new sniper rifle

and no the gol doesn't count

[acoustic oar]

havent seen anything on steam

[sour meadow]

origin user

[vocal tusk]

Would be cool, and if they can do it for pregame they could surely do it for parties in the menu!

[sour meadow]

or the EA app

whatever it is now

[solid imp]

Although origin always has the "update game" option it does nothing right now

[dapper river]

I mean yeah, but it would be cool to see your other party members standing around in the main menu, like in Apex or Halo Infinite. I suppose COD does this as well

[sour meadow]

ah okay

[solid imp]

Good call-- we'll have to see but I suspect right now it's just the pregame

[vocal tusk]

It's a way for them to show off more skins, so it's beneficial for all parties involved

[pine roost]

I’d gladly take that over waiting 2 minutes to play a match

[solid imp]

That would be really cool to show the party standing around in the seasonal equipment bay

[vocal tusk]

I also hope that they change end of round to show more squad actions, than individual feats. Like best squad and stuff like that

[pine roost]

the feats are kind of useless anyway, i'd be in favour of that too

'1 melee kill'
has a 100 rifle kills in one match

[thorn bay]

are there changes comming for the jets?

[vocal tusk]

That stuff has been gone from the game for a while. I mostly see captures, kills, revives and stuff like that now.

[drowsy shuttle]

the new york jets?

[thorn bay]

jets are weak way to weak in bf 2 they where perfect\

[inner ether]

128 Rush has really highlighted how horrendously laggy this game gets with that many people. It's also shown me how bugged grenades are to the point of frustration where using Irish APS is almost meaningless because it's ignoring grenades, especially Sundance's grenades. I've also noticed how completely bullshit grenade explosions are as they will often kill you well and good behind cover or straight up through walls.

[thorn bay]

also the bf 2 commander mode was perfect

squad system

[simple mango]

Do you have any solutions for people join my portal experience?
Because I've been waiting for people to join for about an hour but no one has joined

[solid imp]

Agreed, and I low key miss seeing how many throwables I threw

Just like I wish there was somewhere in Options I could turn back on the EOR one liners 🙂

[pine roost]

yes

[drowsy shuttle]

sad portal noises

[pine roost]

assuming it all goes to plan and nothing is broken

[sour steeple]

if its not 100000000000000000000000000% milsim ultra hc then ye.. ur server gonna die

[vocal tusk]

There is no solution. After tomorrow you will at least be able to enable PVP AI and get XP, ribbons and XP and be able to do weekly missions.

[pine roost]

Both the f35 and SU should now both have the same turn rates, the turning overall has apparently been improved with less drag and drift

which could be huuuge depending on how it's been done

[simple mango]

Oh realy?

[vocal tusk]

Yes, it's a change listed on the 4.0 patch notes

[simple mango]

Nice

[wide shore]

Mmm. Can cheese some of those stupid weeklies

Like multikills.

[simple mango]

Me and my portal waiting tomorrow update

[arctic grove]

so what advantages does the su57 have now?

[wide shore]

Forreal. Been bored as hell

[arctic grove]

f35 is just su with vtol now

will be

[vocal tusk]

No one uses VTOL on it anyway...its a one way ticket to getting an M5 in the ass

[sharp marten]

I do

[vocal tusk]

This is the portal changes I spoke of above...Basically as long as your experience is that of a vanilla server/mode...youll have access to more XP/Progress gains

[arctic grove]

bet some mf will find a loophole

I wonder if happymaps will work now

keep seing them in portal tho they're useless

[simple mango]

[grim pulsar]

so fun fact:
When a Enemy jet blows up...crashes NEAR you and a Piece of its WING slips under your feet, it SLINGSHOTS you across the map ay Mach 3
Anyone else witness thids

[dapper river]

Wait a minute I just realized the aircraft in the background is an unholy union between a Condor and a Hind lmao

What manner of tomfoolery is this

[vocal tusk]

Its the Hindor

[arctic grove]

its a lil confused

[vocal tusk]

Image is from the preview event though

[arctic grove]

insert family guy meme

[arctic grove]

sigma 2042 edits

whats next

[simple mango]

x))

[dapper river]

Mobile aspect ratio

[arctic grove]

its from tiktok prob

[remote meteor]

so we are getting faster deployment at start of the match?I hate those voices at the beginning were somebody talks about the lore stuff…

[simple mango]

yes

[vocal tusk]

I actually wish that things like jets, hind and condors had more impressive explosions. It also looks weird to me when you see the carcass of a jet just wildly flounder through the air after it is destroyed

[blazing pagoda]

jesus christ, I'm trying to learn heli and there's like 5 AOD players trying to liz me at the same time

[copper ice]

that, or swap him with rao

and make his turret solely a spotting tool

thank you for sending my messages 4 hours later discord

[vocal tusk]

Learn against bots

[blazing pagoda]

I have, I do good against em, but learning in a real match is prob the best way to learn

[fervent rose]

soon tm

[arctic grove]

"alright no-pats, this time you're fighting for a generic abandoned lab number 3943 in the middle of a desert, I dont know why but the Russians really want it. Go get em notepads"

[karmic egret]

11 hours to go

[vocal tusk]

Notepads got me...wont be able to un-hear this!

[arctic grove]

you'll manage

[remote meteor]

Send Ivan back home

[arctic grove]

US side briefings sound kinda unconvincing

[vocal tusk]

US in season 4 after the Season 3 easter egg:

"Are we the baddies??"

[calm bison]

I don’t think the US is necessarily bad in this case. They might be. Wolff may have a General Shepherd deal going on

I mean technically in the context of this universe both the US and Russia are the bad guys

Given how they’re using No-Pats to fight their wars

[vocal tusk]

They are leaning heavily towards the US/Wolff being the bad guys though. Definitely trying to make Oz seem like more than just the bad guy that he seemed in the Exodus short back at the very start

Its cool in a way...cos you as a player can decide to do the easter egg, or not...and doing it (For me) definitely makes me believe that the US are the bad guys/ the enemy of Exodus No Pats.

[inner ether]

I think this is correct

[vocal tusk]

Its probably not that deep for 99% of players though, most who only did the egg for the player cards and skin! 😄

[calm bison]

I mean it makes sense, when you hijack Us government property and use it to help someone identified as a terrorist by the Us, I imagine they wouldn’t be so happy about it

[pine roost]

learning mechanics is best done solo, strategy you can only learn in game, that's a good mindset to have

[dapper river]

I don't even know who the hell Oz is

[calm bison]

Kind of a “don’t be surprised when the hornet is mad at you cuz you tried to kill it” situation

[inner ether]

The guy who caused all our satellites to fall out of orbit

[pine roost]

I know a wizard lives there

[fervent rose]

dont worry the lore is very silly

[pine roost]

pretty wonderful guy

[calm bison]

Technically the blackout of 2040 has not been exactly explained

It just happened and no one really knows who caused it

[dapper river]

Is Oz the guy who was speaking on the Manifest easter egg in that green room? 🤨

[calm bison]

Yes

[inner ether]

It's heavily implied that the error of the first satellite of Oz was the cause though

Wolff is the guy trying to prevent that from happening again

Though his methods are brutal

[arctic grove]

anyone elses uniform resets to default every once in a while?

[inner ether]

I entirely understand Wolff's angle on it, but he's a massive ass about it.

[limpid pond]

Yo it's slow at ikea today

[dapper river]

Used to happen a lot when 3.2.0 released, but I haven't had this issue since 3.2.1

[limpid pond]

There's like no one here

[dapper river]

o shit he works at the swedish embassy

where are the battlefield updates

[limpid pond]

Yeah

[limber orbit]

ikea in bf2042 when?

[sharp atlas]

hi sorry is bf2042 down sorry for bad english

[dapper river]

we have that on Spearhead

[vocal tusk]

It seems like they are trying to frame it like Wolff/US wants the geo satellite to use as a weapon, while Oz wants it for some kind of terraforming uses?

[limpid pond]

Nevermind it just got busy

Like 10 people hopped in line

[vocal tusk]

But it hasnt really been told from anyone other than Oz...as to what his intentions for it are...and of course, if someone is trying to get you to do work for them, they have the potential to be lying!

[pine roost]

go find the shark

[summer lake]

Bingo, Oz wants to turn uninhabitable areas into sprawling no-pat areas

[vocal tusk]

Or does he?

[limpid pond]

I'm going to bed at 11 am est tonight and waking up at 6 to grind the apc9

[vocal tusk]

Like...if im trying to get you to do something for me...of course im going to be like..."Hey, if you do this for me...ill do this to help you!!!"

But like, who is going to hold anyone accountable...especially someone who now controls a satellite than controls the weather?

[limpid pond]

Does anyone know if dice is getting rid of rush xl? During new update

I hope not

[royal trail]

rush xl is golden

hope it stays

[summer lake]

I just find it weird that Irish isn’t pissed about working for Oz after shooting Pac

[fervent rose]

why is rush only 32 or 128. how about some 64 or 96

[acoustic seal]

rush xl is for when you want to farm c4 and airburst kills, calling it good is a stretch

[royal trail]

haha

[vocal tusk]

I wish it were just Rush, BT or Conquest...then you press a button on the mode and it allows you to select preferred player count from 32, 64, 96 or 128.

[royal trail]

i had to get my special objective done and just joined a rush xl, placed myself in the middle and shot straight towards the enemy team till i had 15 assist

[arctic grove]

can i increase the fov more than 105 in the game files or something?

[acoustic seal]

i'd prefer if people just played the actual game but dice isn't interested

[vocal tusk]

Well id imagine Michael K Williams passing away had a dramatic effect on what they could do with Irish as a character in this game

[acoustic seal]

like 4 full 128 servers every day that are weird 1000% REAL IRAQ WAR servers

[limpid pond]

No

[simple mango]

rush XL moment

[arctic grove]

i like the epic rush 128 players rush servers but everyone is playing rush XL now

in portal i mean

[summer lake]

No in playercards he seems to be alright with tagging along

[limber orbit]

pretty sure he is pissed since he held his son at gun point in the exodus vid

[limpid pond]

Still getting bots in rush xl so idk man

[arctic grove]

true

[limpid pond]

I'm averaging 80+ kills a game

That's with real players

With bots it's like 160

They're actually braindead

[simple mango]

rush xl = full explosion = full performance problem

[limpid pond]

Except pkp bots

[warm stirrup]

11 hours until update

[limpid pond]

For some reason the pkp bots aimbot you instantly

[vocal tusk]

Thats what I mean. I imagine they had bigger plans for Irish in the games story...but his passing forced them to make him more of a background character

[dapper river]

PKP, LCMG, and SVK bots are not to be fucked with

[limpid pond]

11 hours until I'm gonna try to be the first in the world to t1 apc9

[limpid pond]

They just shit on your dreams

[warm stirrup]

14 hours until battlepass

[pine roost]

Hopefully tomorrow is the day I get to change my username

[limpid pond]

I'm literally gonna p2w unlock the battleepass

[warm stirrup]

11 until update

[limpid pond]

Get the ac9

And grind the fuck out of it

[arctic grove]

if i change lensdistortion in game files is it going to do anything?

looking for ways to increase perfomance and visibility

PROFSAVE_profile

[vocal tusk]

Buy an RTX 4090. EZ fix!

[arctic grove]

yea

the "easiest" of the fixes

[slender isle]

WAnt better visibility? Just get a sharpen filter over the game

[arctic grove]

the sun is in my EYES

[vocal tusk]

I dunno though, the game runs pretty well on my PCs these days. Even on something old like my 1060

[pine roost]

lens distortion was removed from the game, so that setting won't change anything

by default it is now disabled for everyone

[limpid pond]

No sharpen filter fucks thr game

I put sharpen on 5 alone and it made it mad grainy

[pine roost]

and it's only a filter so it wouldn't impact performance by any meaningful value

[vocal tusk]

Nvidias filters nuke performance

[limpid pond]

Yeah no perforce impact but eye strain 100%

[blazing pagoda]

Yeah I'm able to fly and shoot pretty decently mechanically wise, but I'm just trying to learn strategy and etc in a real match. Was just a tough game getting Liz spawn camped by 5 AOD-clan players. I wasn't even doing good, got like only 15 kills.

[limpid pond]

Especially on discarded

I actually get negative frames there

[pine roost]

welcome to 2042 helicopter gameplay

[limpid pond]

My fps goes from 120 to 32

Like the forest area

[pine roost]

just record clips of your deaths and slowly figure out what mistakes you make, forcefully attempt to correct them and you'll get better over time

[arctic grove]

i dont know man,in 128 player servers my 5600 cant keep up,i play around 120fps with drops to 100 and it feels like 60fps

[proud gorge]

Is there a way to have a solo breakthrew game with 1942 BF2 and BF3 factions?(portal I assume)

[limpid pond]

No idea

[unkempt hawk]

U can make one

[limpid pond]

That's called portal

[unkempt hawk]

yes

[limpid pond]

"Portal I assume

[unkempt hawk]

yes

[vocal tusk]

Make sure to disable all nvidia overlays, same with steam/discord ETC...IME, they really fuck with BF Games

[arctic grove]

also warzone 2 is running mad trash aswell after season 2 update i cant even reach 144fps anymore

just saying

[vocal tusk]

There is no BT in portal

[warm stirrup]

I have codes in #908101543646089236

[limpid pond]

Nope

Just rush and conquest

[warm stirrup]

There is tho

[limpid pond]

Only private lobbies can be breakthrough

[royal trail]

i wish we could set individual settings depending on which map we're playing. like i can play most maps maxed without a problem but on hourglass i have to turn on dlss

[fervent cape]

I keep running into cheaters

[warm stirrup]

128 breakthrough exists in portal

[fervent cape]

1 dude was using a laggy EOD that was invincible

[warm stirrup]

I made codes a while back

[limpid pond]

Wait it does

How do you get bt in portal

[warm stirrup]

#908101543646089236

[vocal tusk]

Probably some custom BT mode, that has no UI id guess

[warm stirrup]

Custom logic

[vocal tusk]

So basically pointless

[arctic grove]

any faster way of lvling up guns than playing breakthrough with bots on beginner and still dying oneshot ?

[limpid pond]

Huh

[pine roost]

what kinds of questions do they want for these commenter questions. You can't ask them 'when will you fix x' or 'will you add y' because there'd just be too much. What are they actually looking for?

[limpid pond]

How you dying by 1 shot

[vocal tusk]

Play BT on stranded, use smokes cos it makes bots extra dumb

[dapper river]

Mind-boggling to think it's been this long since release and no breakthrough in Portal

That infantry breakthrough mode from a while back was also pretty fun, had layouts unique to that mode

[pine roost]

over time the ai changes it's difficulty and tends to have some pretty suspicious moments

[royal trail]

oh so im not the only one who unlock attachments on bt stranded

[limpid pond]

Oh yeah I know that pkp bots scare me

[pine roost]

the lcmg in particular rattles me bones

[limpid pond]

I thunk alot of us do

Think

Tf is thunk

[arctic grove]

also i noticed weird fps drops when trying to aim with any thermal scope,its like the game is having a seizure

anyone else?

[dapper river]

Nah of course not, it's the go-to map after they nerfed the secret spot on old Kaleidoscope

[vocal tusk]

Its a map with no vehicles and super dense infantry clusters. Easy for fast kills

[vocal tusk]

Under the pipe on top of the building? 😄

[warm stirrup]

In 11 hours be able to unlock attachments against bots in portal

[arctic grove]

for real?

might as well wait then

for them "quick lvl up guns only serious players" servers

[warm stirrup]

Only vanilla servers with bots gain xp

Basically no farming servers

[vocal tusk]

Apart from all the farming servers that is

[arctic grove]

but its portal,you can make a vanilla farming server no?

[warm stirrup]

Nah

[limpid pond]

Best gun

[mental cave]

if you go on portal i guarantee you will find at minimum 2 helicopters xp farms

[warm stirrup]

In order to gain xp with bots, only map rotation can be edited

[vocal tusk]

Me: Mom I want breakthrough in portal

Mom: We have Breakthrough at home

The Breakthrough at home:

Spawns in this experience seem hella broken

[mental cave]

stick goes pew pew

[limpid pond]

Pew pew pew

[coral river]

just curious why play portal instead of just joining a breakthrough game

[pine roost]

the stealth heli has the best feeling yaw out of all of them

[vocal tusk]

Dude above said there was BT in portal, so I tried the BT in portal he recommended

[fiery dawn]

but where MP5

[warm stirrup]

Breakthrough in portal the vehicles are balanced for each team

[mental cave]

i only really like squid G on portal

[limpid pond]

The mp5 literally fails in comparison to the kriss vector or apc9

[mental cave]

everybody else makes wack experiences

[coral river]

ya i was really just tryna see why people play portal over normal quick matches

[upbeat karma]

What time does the update drop?

[arctic grove]

make it 5

[coral river]

besides hc

[vocal tusk]

Except its capture points and spawns are broken...not really much you can do about it with the editor though

[fiery dawn]

but it’s kool

[solid imp]

Deploy Times ⏰

• Update 4.0 @ 09:00 UTC
• Season 4 @ 12:00 UTC

[limpid pond]

Apc9 looks better

[mental cave]

that was fast

[fiery dawn]

but it’s iconic

[solid imp]

[limpid pond]

Nop

You're wrong

[upbeat karma]

Thanks

[limpid pond]

Apc9 is iconic

[solid imp]

it's almost like I've had it on my clipboard for a long time

[fiery dawn]

lmao

[limpid pond]

U r wrong

[fiery dawn]

ok

[limpid pond]

Wrong I tell you

[slender isle]

Do people actually like caspian border?

[limpid pond]

Me to you rn

[warm stirrup]

If only it wasn't restricted xp

[fiery dawn]

[solid imp]

people claim they like caspian border.. I'm less sure of their claims

[limpid pond]

That's the apc9 tbagging the mp5

[fiery dawn]

you literally

[slender isle]

Seriously can't see why it's liked

[fiery dawn]

have the mp5 in your pfp still

[vocal tusk]

TBH, I wouldnt play this even if it were. Its not terribly fun

[slender isle]

literally a 2042 open no cover map with worse flow

[solid imp]

bUt MaP dEsiGn wAs BetTeR bEfoRe

[limpid pond]

This one brings joy

[eager spire]

Fuck Caspian Border, i don't understand why they felt the need to put that shit in BF4

[slender isle]

I mean, all the bf3 maps in portal really just... aren't fun lmao. Caspian has never been fun though

[solid imp]

Golmud is the same way

[limpid pond]

This one does not bring joy

[eager spire]

BF3 had better maps, why put in fucking Caspian Border and Operation Firestorm?

[solid imp]

open

[arctic grove]

i have 57hours on this account since ban an 25 out of 57 are heli xp farm servers,they are pretty usefull

[solid imp]

But everyone swears by Golmud, too

[slender isle]

At least BF4 has a wall with cover

[eager spire]

WHO THE FUCK SWEARS BY GOLMUD

[limpid pond]

Caspian border I'd rather play than the harbor map

[eager spire]

THAT ONE SUCKS ASS

[solid imp]

oh man that used to be one of The Maps

[vocal tusk]

Golmud is probably my least favorite map in BF4

[slender isle]

Damn vehicle players

It's worse than panzer storm because of helis

[royal trail]

bf3 metro in portal when?

[vocal tusk]

It has a decent TDM area tho

[eager spire]

oh wow it has a WALL

BIG IMPROVEMENTS HERE LADS

[limpid pond]

Bf3 metro is what I need

[arctic grove]

also why do we have maps like caspian and not metro or sandstorm

[slender isle]

Hey, bf3 doesn't lmao

[eager spire]

big improvements here lads

[warm stirrup]

Anyone bet the ai will have the new vehicle before the players do? At least for 3 hours?

[eager spire]

Golmud has a decent TDM area? Fuck off, you run anything higher than 100 tickets in a server you're gonna end up with no fucking cover because all the buildings get blown up.

[slender isle]

It was a pretty big improvement over bf3 and somehow they didn't do it in 2042

[vocal tusk]

Thats the fun of it!

[limber orbit]

steal them

[limpid pond]

Floodzone best map imo

[slender isle]

Yes

[limpid pond]

Besides metro but metro is just good

[slender isle]

I'll have the vehicle in like 4 hours thhough

[eager spire]

fuck off that's not fun, that's annoying as shit, especially when everyone is camping the fucking high ground

[limpid pond]

Just be a jedi dud

Have the high ground

[vocal tusk]

I love siege of shanghai...right up until you take down the tower and it goes from S tier map to B tier

[limpid pond]

I pissed on everyone when I got in floodzone

[arctic grove]

i mean its ez money if they start putting bf3 maps again just saying,grand bazzar chok points went crazy tbh

[eager spire]

I don't understand why people like Siege of Shanghai so much

[royal trail]

it was the beta map

[eager spire]

like C flag is annoying as fuck when the building's up because everyone camps the fucking elevators

[slender isle]

You mean the "spawn as US team and be instantly spawn camped after 2 minutes" map?

[eager spire]

The building going down improves the map by not having the flag be at the top of a building.

[vocal tusk]

Its a good combined arms map. You can do a bit of everything...tank, sniper, infantry...helicopter.

[limpid pond]

Bring back underground from bf5

Make the map modern and boom cqb map for people like me

Fast up close fights

[slender isle]

You'll love flashpoint

[granite island]

I wouldn't mind a map like that one bf5 map

[warm stirrup]

Vehicle superiority with horses tho?

[slender isle]

the tunnels are just 🤤

[limpid pond]

Which game

[slender isle]

Literally the new map

[granite island]

Where the buildings are destructible but not completely destroyed

[slender isle]

have you not been looking at gameplay?

[granite island]

So you still have some cover

[limpid pond]

Oh yeah I seen it. Looks good

Didn't k ow it was called flash point though

I'm not gonna play it until I t1 new smg so it should take me 5 hours

[royal trail]

most people seem to like the new map, i watched one youtuber who thought it had too much empty open spaces tho

[warm stirrup]

Imagine bf1 and 2142 in portal? Mech vs horse?

[limpid pond]

It's level 10 in BP so imma buy tiers

[slender isle]

He's a fool

[limpid pond]

Maxiq

[granite island]

It does look like it could some more buildings

But it's fine by the looks of it

[limpid pond]

It could tbh

Has the rocks that are between point a and b on renewal

It's in serverl locations too

But other than that the map looks great

I also really did this seasons authentic

[slender isle]

It's like renewal on the desert side but with more environmental cover

[warm stirrup]

Max stated the map is unbalanced on breakthrough

[limpid pond]

I dig the gasmask skins

Gonna be my favorite season

[vocal tusk]

Apparently its hella skewed towards attackers on BT...but I play mainly CQ...so meh!

[limpid pond]

I started maining rush

So the map will be a breeze

[slender isle]

Finally lmao

Hopefully no helis

[vocal tusk]

No clue TBH. I dont even know how BT is balanced these days. Its been months since I played it

[slender isle]

It's good on most of the maps besides discarded and hourglass

oh and defence on breakthrough

breakaway*

[limpid pond]

More maps with no vehicles would be great tbh

So far only stranded and stranded is literally equal

[slender isle]

I think breakthrough with transport vehicles is stupid

[limpid pond]

Like attackers or defenders can wi

I agree

[warm stirrup]

Stranded and stranded?

[limpid pond]

No idea why I typed that

Ohhhh I had wrong punctuation

[warm stirrup]

[limpid pond]

So far only stranded, and stranded is equal

[granite island]

Simply give hourglass highway battles

[limpid pond]

That's why it sounded weird

[vocal tusk]

Do yall think Hourglass will be as impressive a rework as Breakaway?

[limpid pond]

Anyways guys back to work I'll catch yall in a bit

[royal trail]

hourglass during sandstorms in the arena is so taxing on your computer

[granite island]

Like the blizzard on bf5?

That one snow mountain map

[vocal tusk]

I genuinely wish Breakaway had a snowstorm like hourglass' sand storm

[granite island]

How about instead of a blizzard

We get a oil rig explosion

That splits the oil rig in two

[royal trail]

i was hoping that breakaway would have avalanches and stuff

[buoyant trail]

I havent noticed any performance dips on my pc during sandstorms in the arena. But i also like to fly in sandstorms

[granite island]

I almost crashed my jet during the sandstorm

[buoyant trail]

Ah i dont do jets but nightbird or bf3 littlebird /z-11 ill fly in sandstorms

[royal trail]

i can play every map on ultra 4k 60fps+ (raytracing off) with my 3090 but in hourglass i have to turn on dlss

[buoyant trail]

Ah im not playing on 4k

I do have everything on ultra as well tho

3080 myself

[granite island]

Only a couple hours till season 4

Does it start in the morning like season 3?

[vocal tusk]

I play 1440p medium/high, cos I dont like how ultra looks for most settings.

[warm shale]

Deploy Times

• Update 4.0 @ 09:00 UTC
• Season 4 @ 12:00 UTC

[granite island]

So 3am

Got it

[vocal tusk]

I get good frames always, but my PC is pretty strong.

[remote meteor]

1pm for me amazing time

[vocal tusk]

Nice. 10am for me, but I have work!

[buoyant trail]

If i have any issues its packet loss or my rural internet

[granite island]

Damn

That 500 ping be hitting different

Why does this always happen on manifest

[vocal tusk]

Maybe they opened a bad port on Manifest?

[royal trail]

i used to get like 5-10 ping to swedish servers when i lived at my parents place with fibre, now at my own apartment with fibercoax i get like 35

rip

[vocal tusk]

35 is still decent though

[royal trail]

true

i shouldnt complain

[slender isle]

Probably more impressive

[crude juniper]

Season 4 gallery?

Where?

[granite island]

Do they have more images of season 4

I wanna add them to my wallpaper collection

[ebon pilot]

I'm using this as a wallpaper

[turbid geode]

y'all ever encounter players that sabotage the team by giving the enemy team vehicles?

[granite island]

Yeah, alot

It's called not sinking with the ship like a true captain

[buoyant trail]

That feeling when i had 999 ping once because my rural internet decided to be extra trash

[ebon pilot]

I changed my exit key for jets and forgot it so I can't exit them anyway

[warm shale]

Buy Wallpaper Engine, they're actually reactive and don't stress out your CPU

[buoyant trail]

Yeah. Had a match where the enemy team had all the AA vehicles and our tranport osprey

[ebon pilot]

this is my android wallpaper

[warm shale]

Nevermind, misspoke

[ebon pilot]

I would use Wallpaper Engine on PC, but nobody makes good looking 32:9 wallpapers

[warm shale]

Hentai artists to the rescue

[royal trail]

uh

[ebon pilot]

wot

[remote meteor]

Do you think the type 88 lmg will be any good in All out Warfare?

[vocal tusk]

Maybe, but probably not.

[remote meteor]

at least it got 200 round mag

[royal trail]

i see avancys being used alot

[remote meteor]

But we‘ll see if it‘ll be just as bad as the m60 and m240b

[vocal tusk]

I do enjoy the M240B though, so I'll hold out hope

[slender isle]

Not as good as the LCMG atm

[bitter skiff]

Did 4 drop?

[granite island]

I want to know why recon can't have a buff with the rorsche

[vocal tusk]

65 damage per hit is nice, especially on engineers with better accuracy

[remote meteor]

9 utc tomorrow is update 4.0 and season 4 12 utc

[granite island]

Even though it technically counts as a sniper

[slender isle]

Don't diss them, they're great

[royal trail]

aight, i use pp29 myself so im not really a meta guy

[wheat cloak]

Nice. On my 23 Ultra now

[granite island]

I get the rorsche is a tri gun

[remote meteor]

I mean they are ok, but lcmg and avancys are just better than any of them:/

[granite island]

But I want the proficiency sniper buff

[slender isle]

Yeah but they're better than almost every other gun so

[vocal tusk]

Lcmg is very adaptable.

[slender isle]

LCMG and Avancys that is

[vocal tusk]

CQC ammo and short barrel for upclose

[ebon pilot]

lcmg lets me attach an underbarrel shotgun

It automatically wins

[royal trail]

doesnt lmgs take longer to ads or something, i always feel like im behind in the snappy action with them

[slender isle]

Yes

[vocal tusk]

Not really, unless you are tac sprinting

[remote meteor]

I had a friend complaining about the m5a3 being unusable with short barrel and close combat mag. He was saying that the gun was uncontrollable with those 2 on at the same time.

[vocal tusk]

Its not all that bad though

[remote meteor]

Meanwhile I was laser beaming everything with that exact attachments

With 910 rpm it is more a smg tho xD

[copper ice]

[remote meteor]

Just short barrel is the way with standard extended

[coral trellis]

The m5a3 should be like it's real life varient and not like a m4a1

[copper ice]

They have significantly longer sprint to ADS times

[royal trail]

ye thats what i thought

[vocal tusk]

So many players not using FOV paired ADS setting and adding lots of visual recoil due to the extra zoom

[arctic grove]

i feel like the jets in the game are a little underwhelming

[vocal tusk]

They are

They suck atm. In a very bad place

[arctic grove]

:/

[vocal tusk]

Some changes coming to them tomorrow

[arctic grove]

wait wut

[ebon pilot]

the ADS FoV setting?

[arctic grove]

i hope its for the better

[slender isle]

F35 is being buffed

better handling to compete with the su57

[arctic grove]

thank christ

cuz coming from bf4 to this made me sad

[coral trellis]

The Ntw 50 any good?

[fervent rose]

small fire delay too

[remote meteor]

yeah. I am using 87 or 88 fov and ads on on my 3440x1440p 34“ monitor. It is more than enough for me. I am able to see a lot and still see enemies on range

[coral trellis]

Is it still a 1 shot kill most of the time

[slender isle]

Just watch squid G lmao

[slender isle]

within 100m I believe yes

[copper ice]

Slow ads on scopes past 1.5x, ohk within 100m

[coral trellis]

Is that close range?

[copper ice]

It's... a hundred metres

[fervent rose]

most encounters are less than 100m on average

but 2042 also has giant maps

[slender isle]

For a sniper? Yes

[copper ice]

Most weapons drop to minimum damage before 100m

[vocal tusk]

This

[arctic grove]

btw anyone tryna play?

[slow tulip]

Over 90% of the time squad leaders don't know what does it mean to be a squad leader

[coral trellis]

Is there any 1 shot kill snipers that arnt just to the head

[slender isle]

Ping flags, run to flags

[copper ice]

It's less a sniper and more of a cannon

[ebon pilot]

oh yeah that's almost a requirement on super-ultrawide

[slender isle]

No, just NTW

[coral trellis]

It's a amr

[copper ice]

Just the NTW

[fervent rose]

crossbow

[coral trellis]

That sounds really badly designed

[fervent rose]

kinda counts

[slender isle]

Not really

NTW has MASSIVE bullet drop

[copper ice]

This is because the entire squad system in 2042 is incredibly poorly put together

[coral trellis]

How can a sniper rifle effect the battlefield if its 99% of its shots arnt 1 hit kill

[pine roost]

It doesn’t oneshot beyond like 75m now

[remote meteor]

DXR-1 and SWS-10 up to 20 meters into body

[slow tulip]

Nah, squad leaders don't place objective in Bf2042, in bf5 doesn't order artillery and other things

[vocal tusk]

Small mag, slow reload, large drop...and there is damage drop off

[slender isle]

Cause I hit 100% headshots 😉

[fervent rose]

if you only have a 1% headshot rate thats what we call a problem

[copper ice]

this isnt true as of the last few months

[remote meteor]

rlly

[next gulch]

It's not sniper rifles that are the problems these days

[copper ice]

they took out the snipershotguns yeah

[next gulch]

it's SMGs, delete SMGs

[copper ice]

smgs are bad in 2042

[fervent rose]

no

[next gulch]

gonna be able to delete anyone just by looking at them with the new one tomorrow

[fervent rose]

AR's and LMGs are both insanely power creeped, but a gun like pp29 can keep up

[copper ice]

the PBX being bugged and pp29 being an assault rifle not withstanding

[pine roost]

Kinda looks like the p51

[rustic mango]

When new season pass

[slender isle]

you know it

[arctic grove]

tomorrow?

i think

[coral trellis]

How can sniper be useful if the only way to get a guaranteed 1 shot kill is always to the head when this game is very large

[fervent rose]

pp2000 also kills everything

[vocal tusk]

How is the PBX bugged?

[rustic mango]

Fully people back Tommorw on games

Or no

[copper ice]

Close combat ammo on the PBX doubles 4btk range from 10m to 20m

while also giving you more ammo and rof

[vocal tusk]

Headshot multiplier on SMGs needs to be raised to 1.5 tho

[fervent rose]

did someone ever say that was a bug

[copper ice]

i am using bug as shorthand for "dice fucking up again"

[fervent rose]

i dont see that getting changed

[coral trellis]

The amount of things a battlefield game has that can counter Snipers is ridiculous so it makes sniper exstremliy unhelpful to the rest of the team

[slender isle]

Cause of skill?

[vocal tusk]

BSV-M counters everything!

[arctic grove]

FFS

[copper ice]

headshot multiplier on smgs should be 1.5 minimum if moy higher

[slender isle]

Damn right

[arctic grove]

got kicked mid match and now cant connect to ea services

[coral trellis]

It gets harder and harder for a headshot to hit the longer the distance and it isn't a skill factor its just a part of the game

[rustic mango]

Tommorw new update game or no

[arctic grove]

nvm it work now 🙂

[slender isle]

You have to learn the drop

That's the point

[copper ice]

On one hand you have half a point, on the other hand consistently getting killed instantly from 100m+ is an awful experience

[next gulch]

Can't wait to use new explosive gadget as Sundance, gonna destroy a building, throw a scatter grenade in there and then yeet out

[slender isle]

RORSCH 😈

[coral trellis]

Isn't there a thing called helicopters tanks ifvs jets etc?

[fervent rose]

in pretty much every battlefield you need a headshot to 1 shot people with sniper rifles at long ranges

[copper ice]

I would love it if the rorsch just didn't exist

[fervent rose]

bf should not have CoD snipers

good lord that would suck

[slender isle]

I hit a 900m headshot and it had drop 😳

[coral trellis]

Yes this game definitely needs cod sniping

[slender isle]

Pre S3 SWS

[copper ice]

Yes and currently they're kinda the centerpiece of "wow this sucks and is bad to play against" discussion

[vocal tusk]

COD needs this games sniping more like!

[next gulch]

BF1 was CoD sniping, wasn't that fun?

almost ruined that game

[slender isle]

I mean, Gewher infantry was

[pine roost]

Cod needs that kind of sniping because of how close quarters it is and how low of a ttk it has

[fervent rose]

^

[pine roost]

This actually rewards skill

[rustic mango]

Tommorw new update on games

[coral trellis]

Bf1 sniping was actually useful

[fervent rose]

cod sniping literally makes no sense in bf

[eager spire]

BF1 was CoD sniping
genuinely what the fuck are you on about

[vocal tusk]

Sweetspot mechanics...I wasnt a fan!

[pine roost]

You have the time to take cover and identify where you shot from to decide what to do. Besides all you have to do is aim up a bit

[next gulch]

last time I found sniping remotely entertaining was BC2

[slender isle]

Just cause you are not good at the sniping does not mean it needs to cater to you

[fervent rose]

bf1 did basically have cod bodyshotting yes

annoying garbage

[copper ice]

bf1 sweetspot was just really fucking annoying

[fervent rose]

in the same respect, delete ntw50

[eager spire]

no it didn't, it had one shot bodyshots out to arbitrary ranges, that's not CoD sniping.

[coral trellis]

Which meant that snipers wherent useless like every battlefield game

[slender isle]

Martini henry pre nerf 🙂

[slender isle]

You mean... me dropping 30 sniper kills in a match does nothing?

[royal trail]

will they include irish revives towards his tiers in season 4? like falck and angel?

[copper ice]

[fervent rose]

they aren't useless, you just are below the skill floor maybe

[coral trellis]

On other snipers?

[slender isle]

SWS, DXR, Gol

All of them lmao

[vocal tusk]

Its comically easy to T1 irish though

[coral trellis]

I said other snipers you know like other people

[royal trail]

i never get anyone to throw stuff at my aps

[slender isle]

No, on people on objectives

[royal trail]

when i play irish

😦

[slender isle]

I do cover fire for my squad

[vocal tusk]

Play rush or BT...T1 in a few hours! 😛

[copper ice]

how?!

[fervent rose]

@royal trail play a tank you'll get many rockets shot at you

[pine roost]

Stranded second point on attack

[fervent rose]

free aps mastery

[granite island]

Gonna wake up at 5am

[next gulch]

Recon should get mortar strike gadget back, then I will play it

[granite island]

Play solo on flashpoint

[pine roost]

Had some nincompoop try to shoot the aps down with a lis missile for a solid minute, that was funny

[spiral folio]

You can hit a drone with a lis

[spiral folio]

Why would recons habe a mortar, thats a long range weapon

[pine roost]

ahem snipers

[spiral folio]

EA actively sabotages recons to force them closer range

[copper ice]

snipers are difficult to make useful while not being annoying to play against

[spiral folio]

There's no sniper focused specialist

[pine roost]

A good balance id say

[slender isle]

I am the specialist 😤

[fervent rose]

of course there isn't, cause then you'd feel forced to run that sniper guy when you snipe

[spiral folio]

Oh no

Sniper guy would have no speaking lines, he just sighs or grunts sometime

[slender isle]

recker as a specialist

[copper ice]

like i feel forced to run Irish when i tank

[pine roost]

The dev team said that they’d run blasco as a long range sniper and it worked quite well

[spiral folio]

XD

[topaz field]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8ZWc08P6MmM

[fervent rose]

casper is close enough to a "sniper" main to me

[topaz field]

enjoy 🙂

[slender isle]

Throw her gadget down and no one can spot you

[spiral folio]

The new specialist whos special is avoiding traps (close range weapon)

[pine roost]

Although if I were to do any long range sniping it would be Casper, blasco or Rao if we talking recon only

[fervent rose]

mackay and falck are the best snipers imo

[pine roost]

Well she can’t be spotted while under the effects of her jammer so I suppose they use that to be blend in and not get spotted

[spiral folio]

Raos special is probably the longest range.

You go 8 feet and the crappy radioshack drone is already low signal

[copper ice]

Casper is way longer range than rao hack and a thousand times better against infantry

[limber orbit]

oh lord in heaven i finally got my T1 badge for the SWS

[spiral folio]

Lis is a better sniper

[copper ice]

waitb you're right lis is the sniper

600m range instakill on campers

[spiral folio]

If i cant get a guy i mark em and then shoop out a rocket

[copper ice]

[pine roost]

But taking any fire as Rao reveals their position which can potentially be useful

[slender isle]

it is

[limber orbit]

well those 600m bout' to be not 600m lol

[rocky kraken]

What was the podcast about today

[spiral folio]

Casper has the big dumb ghili suit to make you a larger visual target tio

[vocal tusk]

Season 4

[pine roost]

Just the new update

[rocky kraken]

Damn

[copper ice]

If you're Casper you already know their position

[rocky kraken]

How many did they say they are doing

[spiral folio]

When you account for curving in the flight youd probably more realistically get like 550m range out of lis

[pine roost]

They went over everything we knew already, but shared some interesting insights into the map

[spiral folio]

Less when the buffnerf goes in

[copper ice]

The best spec for sniping is actually Falck

[white geyser]

The update starts tomorrow

[fervent rose]

or mackay since he gets angles nobody else can get

[pine roost]

And a strafe speed buff

[copper ice]

Normally when you take chip damage when you're sniping you're out of the fight for a while

[pine roost]

Although that’s only a slight buff now

[copper ice]

Falck means your uptime is near 100

[rustic mango]

What's happened on Tommorw

[vocal tusk]

Just bind steady scope and ADS to the same button...free recon perk for all classes!

[limber orbit]

they shut the game down

[fervent rose]

falck bsvm is a silly thing

[copper ice]

falck is ridiculous in general

permanent free self healing

[vocal tusk]

Recon perk is a joke though. Literally pointless

[limber orbit]

thats why almost everybody is playing her

cringe tbh

[limpid pond]

Falck is never an issue because she sucks if the player sucks

[copper ice]

you could apply that to like, anything, man

[fervent rose]

people have always spammed whatever class had healing in bf

[pine roost]

That’s just the way it’s always been

Heck the assault with the best guns had healing in 4

[copper ice]

because bf has always had horrible regen times

[pine roost]

Sacrificing that for offensive utilities isn’t too bad

[vocal tusk]

Yeah, health regen in 2042 is insanely fast

[copper ice]

in relation to other bf games, yeah

it's still slow

[fervent rose]

didnt they just make it slower

[vocal tusk]

Played 4 recently and that was a rude awakening!

[pine roost]

Close quarters bf4 is a dream

[royal trail]

am i the onlyone who get bored when playing without music? i always blast like tiesto radio podcasts while playing

[limber orbit]

sometimes and sometimes not

[pine roost]

Im the opposite, can’t play properly with music on. Especially podcasts

[limber orbit]

tho i blast music like gojira or mastodon

[coral trellis]

That's called video games if there's something annoying then you just need to suck it up some times

[copper ice]

or you just make them not annoying

[coral trellis]

Ok that's a very unrealistic way of thinking

[bleak ibex]

No way

[limpid pond]

Well of course except the sfat

Sfar

[royal trail]

ingame say its 9 hours and 25 mins till season 3 ends

hype

[copper ice]

im poo with the sfar

Hrec out the wazoo

[limpid pond]

Weird

Sfar is too good to be bad with

I don't even have to try I could have a massive headache and the sfar alone will give me 40+ kills

[pine roost]

Recoil aside how does it’s other stats differ to the ak?

[limpid pond]

No idea

I think the ak is faster rof no?

[copper ice]

Much better damage model

[limpid pond]

Yeah sfar damage is too good

[slender isle]

40m 4 hit vs 10m 4 hit

[copper ice]

AK a little higher rof but notably less range

[limpid pond]

Sounds about right

[slender isle]

AK is kind of terrible

[limpid pond]

Ak is nice to use

[pine roost]

Cause I’ve found it’s recoil to be far more controllable

[limpid pond]

Sfar is more rewarding with less skill

[slender isle]

Compared to any of the SMGs or LMGs

[limpid pond]

Ak takes more patience and better aim

Smgs just don't compare in general to ars

[slender isle]

Still, AKS74U has a 4 hit out to 25m 🤣

[limpid pond]

Except apc9

It better be busted asf

It's the vector 2.0

Hopefully

[pine roost]

So the scar has better damage but slightly worse recoil

[limpid pond]

Ar users had their fun for to long

[pine roost]

That kind of balances itself out

[slender isle]

slow rpm too

[limpid pond]

Idk man sfar recoil is easy to control im

Imo

I feel like ak has worse recoil due to higher vrec

[fervent rose]

you get to fry people with 2 taps to the head with scar or have a 50 round drum and slightly better rof with AK

ak is still good

but scar rewards headshots

[copper ice]

sfar recoil isnt bad enough to make up for the AK damage model being so much shorter range

[slender isle]

Turn burst on

[copper ice]

the ak burst is also ass

its faster to use single rof

[fervent rose]

yea i dunno about that ak burst

[slender isle]

They fixed it didn't they?

[pine roost]

Did this a while back, the scar had noticeably more recoil. But of course it’s down to random chance

[copper ice]

i desperately wanted ak burst to be good but it feels like using full auto but really slowly

[coral trellis]

They still have bloom or randomized bullet spread

Jesues

[pine roost]

Yeah all recoil is random

[coral trellis]

That's stupid

[fervent rose]

most of the ARs can do that

besides like am40

[copper ice]

^

[coral trellis]

Recoil shouldn't be randomized

[copper ice]

if you're doing that you may as well use m5 to do it faster or sfar to do it with less bullets

[pine roost]

I’ll spend some time tomorrow testing out what works best

[slender isle]

Just use the M16

[copper ice]

biggest advantage of the AK over the m5 is the bigmag and the AP UBGL

[coral trellis]

Still has randomized weapon spread

[fervent rose]

AK isn't a bad gun at all

[copper ice]

biggest advantage of the AK over the sfar is masterkey

[slender isle]

STill best gun in the AR category

[pine roost]

It’s very slight, and in battlefield it helps to give weapons specific range preferences

[copper ice]

it's not bad but it's not great

[pine roost]

It’s been my go to since launch I might as well stick to it

[copper ice]

like, the alternatives are just better

pp29 beats it at close and mid range

[fervent rose]

the one good part of the AK is that it has boatloads of ammo

[unkempt hawk]

is breakthrough supposed to be as bad as it is?

[slender isle]

Still pissed the ACWR hasn't had it's fire rate buffed

[unkempt hawk]

so mid

[pine roost]

I don’t really go for the meta guns anyway

[fervent rose]

AK with the new assault perk is swimming in bullets

[copper ice]

AK is still meta because >4 UBGL attachments

just use it as a grenade depository device

masterkey + 40mm and you don't need to fire a single bullet

[pine roost]

Is this really much different to the scar?

Im willing to try it out regardless

[fervent rose]

at those ranges it might be better than scar due to lower spread

100+ isnt where the Scar evaporates people

[copper ice]

5btk at 120m?

oh high power

[pine roost]

So from what I can gather it’s best for that range just past 10 and below 40 where it maintains 4 shot kill?

[fervent rose]

i think its 50m

[copper ice]

it's got long 5btk range with high power yeah, but the same rof as SFAR and lower mag size

and still poor 4btk range

[granite island]

Stranded end of match music got me feeling something

[fervent rose]

scar is better at mid range frying people with accurate headshots

but 100+ isnt midrange

and AK with high power is good at longer ranges

[limpid pond]

I'm not bursting a gun

[copper ice]

high power AK and SFAR have the same rof with SFAR having higher mag size, 4btk range

[slender isle]

not even the AN-94?

[limpid pond]

Maybe

Yhe 2 round burst is nice