battlefield-2042

[wispy haven]

rtx 3060 ti is still good even for 1440p and for me at 1080p it is amazing

[bitter mulch]

make it smaller? hourglass has so much potenial, its really pretty

[ivory canopy]

I have a 144Hz monitor and I've had good performance with my 3070Ti

Mind you, I used to play the game on a 970.

[wispy haven]

yeah i don’t even want to upgrade from my 1080p 60hz monitor. it is fine for me.

[mental delta]

I hope so because it's the most important thing it needs, but Discarded size should have been reduced too, but they didn't reduce it though I think which makes me afraid they'll not make Hourglass smaller too

[simple mango]

bot moment

531 kills

[bitter mulch]

from the update video discarded seems smaller

[wispy haven]

before upgrading i had r5 3600 and 1660 ti and i could even reach 60s on high settings. 1660 is still decent

[mental delta]

Idk I've seen the map from above like before spawning and it looks like it has the same size, just like Manifest, it should have been reduced a lot

[simple mango]

Hmm

[bitter mulch]

hmm interesting

[simple mango]

Me in my current config, I don't know what to change to no longer have a problem

[mental delta]

I'm kinda disappointed with Kaleidoscope and Manifest remakes, to me they just put sandbags and green containers everywhere and said "it's fixed"

[bitter mulch]

kinda true, but they were bad maps in my opinion. Nothing could make them better

[mental delta]

Yeah the overall design sucked and if they wanted to make them better they should have just completely remade it, they made them barely more playable but not better

[bitter mulch]

yeah, i didnt like the design. Kaledioscope is just wierd and it feels it not the ma for a bf game

[simple mango]

new weapon x)

[mental delta]

Yeah exactly, if you take the top half of the map like the skycraper and skatepark parts, it just feels empty af, when they remade it they just fixed 1/4 of it, they just abandoned the rest

[arctic grove]

1440p ultra 90-100 fps

[bitter mulch]

exactly, a city map should be something like dawnbreaker or karkand

[wispy haven]

I would argue you could play on 4k with dlss

is dlss well implemented in this game?

[mental delta]

Yeah completely, it should have more destruction or more skycrapers to hide

[arctic grove]

Idc about 4k but dlss is alright in this game other than fucked up smoke effects

they need to update it

[wispy haven]

i mean you could def play on 4k with dlss performance or balance

[simple mango]

best moment

BF 2042 beta

[bitter mulch]

its kinda a city park haha

[arctic grove]

What’s up with players hogging transport seats on objectives? It’s like they just ask to be collateral-killed.

[rotund ledge]

its a sandbox that gives players freedom to do what they wanna

[mental delta]

Yeah Kaleidoscope plays like shit because it's empty and too large lol, idk why it's so hard to just reduce maps size but whatever

[rotund ledge]

bf2042 has the least amount of team cohesive, objective oriented gameplay imo

[elder meteor]

https://youtu.be/qJz18c6gw8c?t=9 how I feel driving a transport in 2042

[arctic grove]

EXACTLY

[rotund ledge]

I honestly think they exploded the map size because they didn't know how to handle the 128 player count

[arctic grove]

Istg they’re so fucking stupid

[rotund ledge]

and its a selling point

[mental delta]

They should have never made 128 player lobbies I think

[rotund ledge]

"we made maps 4X bigger, with less detail than previous titles"

[mental delta]

Not with this game at least

[rotund ledge]

I agree, it should have been an experimental feature after the release of a stable game

they tried it without testing it

then if people liked it enough, they can roll the feature into the main game

but they didn't have enough research done

[drowsy shuttle]

thats easy.

best and most fun weapon in the game. i have 100 and something masteries on it. All heil the King Ghostmaker R10

[arctic grove]

They could just ask what we want

“Hey guys you want this?”
“Nah”
“okay, cool.”

The end

[rotund ledge]

you just eliminated all product manager titles from existing at EA

[arctic grove]

[rotund ledge]

like bf2042 has gotten better, but it still doesn't feel like home to me

too disorganized, too big of maps ruining map flow and strategy

the sounds are amazing tho

and the explosions are pretty cool

although they remind me of fallout 4

[still vault]

Big maps are part of the Battlefield DNA, been there since 1942

[rotund ledge]

a little bit cartoony

[rotund ledge]

too big tho

to the point where its a deserted wasteland with not a ton of map detail

[calm bison]

I remember when Al Sundan in BFV dropped and tons of people said it played like older battlefield

[rotund ledge]

Then EA rolls out updates to the maps to fix some of the "cover" problems

[calm bison]

I mean these reworks have been pretty substantial so far

[chilly jacinth]

Dice

not EA

[rotund ledge]

didn't dice change their name

[calm bison]

No

[chilly jacinth]

no

[calm bison]

DICE LA did

But not DICE Sweden

[mental delta]

Yeah this game didn't even have enough development time to make a decent amount of content, how could they have released a finished 128 player lobbies game

[rotund ledge]

ahh

[rotund ledge]

I kind of wish they would just start the next title instead of reworking bf2042 into a playable game after like... 6 seasons lmao

[rotund ledge]

like after that much time, you'd hope the reworks are substantial

they even brought back classes after what

season 5?

like a core feature that was advertised at launch, just got worked after a year

[chilly jacinth]

its been 3

[rotund ledge]

time flies!

[chilly jacinth]

season 4 starts soon

[mental delta]

Me too, thankfully they are actively making the next game I think but they shouldn't even make a season 5 for this game, just drop support ot entirely focus on next game

[rotund ledge]

^^^

I agree 100%

although I know some people still want development for their preorder for like 80 bucks lmaoooo

those people really got screwed

[arctic grove]

PP

xd

[mental delta]

Yeah I preorder it 100 bucks like a fucking asshole but I still want this game to see his support get cut out, his reputation is too bad for it to get a comeback

[rotund ledge]

I just wonder if people are going to preorder the next game

https://tenor.com/view/spongebob-how-many-times-do-we-need-to-teach-you-old-man-slow-thick-gif-12272188

this channel doesn't allow embedding 😦

[still vault]

I have heard this sentence since Battlefield Vietnam

[chilly jacinth]

you gotta be a regular or boost the server

[rotund ledge]

lolol

[next gulch]

I’m gonna get EA Play Pro instead of preordering like I did for 2042

And by the time I wanted to own it, it was free on EA Play/Gamepass

[mental delta]

If they make it modern with a decent amount of maps and guns why not, I just don't want to see specialist shit with 6 maps and 15 guns

[pastel loom]

exact modern at that
not couple years into the future

[chilly jacinth]

just change the date on the box

and boom you have your exact modern

[grim pulsar]

i want to see a Cloak feature, like we had in BF2142
https://battlefield.fandom.com/wiki/IT-33_Active_Camouflage

[chilly jacinth]

cyberpunk 2077?

[pastel loom]

[chilly jacinth]

more like cyberpunk 2023

[mental delta]

Yeah it would be so much better, I feel like they just chose this setting because it's easier to make dumb skins which sell a lot, because they didn't make it pre-futuristic for the lore as there's no campaign

[pastel loom]

cod managed to have dumb skins when it's set in today's date

[quaint vector]

[rotund ledge]

yess battlefield 2024

that's what we all want, com on dice give it to us

I bet they will be reusing bf2042 for a ton of assets tho

and that'll release when? 2026? damn

[mental delta]

I would like it to release in 2042 but I don't think it will be like this though unfortunately

[rotund ledge]

wym

set in 2024 or 2042?

[mental delta]

I don't think they'll get enough time to release it in 2024, it would mean the game releases in barely 20 months

[mental delta]

Ho sorry I didn't understand it like this lol, no I absolutely want it to be set nowadays and not in pre-futuristic shit era

[rotund ledge]

you want it released in 20 years?!

oh I see

[arctic grove]

They should’ve had the same system Battlefront had with their specialists.

[rotund ledge]

6- 7 years of dev time is ideal

just like gta6 -- which is gonna be another gem

[mental delta]

Lol no I want it to be released the soonest they can but if they just rush development to deliver us crap like BF2042 it's a big no for me, I would rather see no BF game anytime soon than rushed poop nobody wants to play

[mental delta]

I think next BF probably saw his development begin in 2020 or 2021 in the worst case, so if it released in 2025 it would have gotten a decent development tile

[pastel loom]

prototype guns aren't needed
there are enough guns still in service today

[mental delta]

Fucking shit yeah, why do they need to make a railgun and a strange laser alien pistol lol

[still vault]

I don't need the guns to exist today. Give me imaginary guns all day.

[pastel loom]

some modifications every few years is ok

my gripe with prototypes is that they're essentially concept arts
and won't look or function the same
when they enter the service

[granite island]

Can I get a gun that looks like it came from star trek and call it a nordvik special pistol

[still vault]

With weapons in 2042 being 3D printed like we have seen, prototyping would be a lot easier and with so many desperate people in the setting I don't think the usage of these protype weapons are that far out there. Every gun is better than no gun.

[mental delta]

Yeah so why not using normal guns instead which you can't find in a far more important amount

[still vault]

They are specialists with specialist needs. Just print them a prototype and

[mental delta]

I see, that's why I don't want specialists anymore lol

[granite island]

Gotta make those grappling hooks somehow

Wait how did they find out where nordvik is

I mean it would look kinda suspicious

Seeing a bunch of cubes on the ground

And giant drones

[mental delta]

That looks clear to me, fucking Lis and Crawford snitched on them

[granite island]

First Irish

Now lis and crawford

How many more specialists gonna betray each other

[mental delta]

I hate Lis and Crawford that's why I declared they're the snitches

[mental delta]

No more as next season features last specialist

[granite island]

I wanted 2 more specialists

One more for engineer

And one for medic

[next gulch]

yeah we need a specialist with a mortar

[arctic grove]

Please dice give me more snipers

Give me the M98B or the M95

Please

[granite island]

You have a railgun

[arctic grove]

The NTW50 is an absolute fucking tank

Rail gun is not a true sniper

Takes the fun out of sniping

[next gulch]

could just remove sniping, that's always an option

[mental delta]

Engineer really sucks in that game, none of them has useful specialist item

[fervent rose]

since Irish is no longer an engineer they should take away APS from him and give it to Boris. it doesn't really make sense that the medic/support guy gets to have shield or APS while Boris has a bot that is mostly useless

[marble thistle]

Boris doesn’t even feel like a engineer lol

[shadow arch]

Explain to me this https://www.youtube.com/shorts/CeUsOQSycaw

[shadow arch]

what about dell conager, the tf2 engineer who does the same stuff boris does

[fervent rose]

boris has never built me a teleporter

[tidal raptor]

Will BF2042 be going to VR at any point?

[quaint vector]

No lol

[arctic grove]

has any bf ever been in vr

what a question

[warm stirrup]

Battlefront is in vr

Star wars

Og games from 2004-2005

[quaint vector]

But we are talking about Battlefield

[warm stirrup]

Battlefront is basically a Star Wars skinned battlefield no?

[next gulch]

it somewhat is now, but not exactly

DICE got their heads out of their ass and made Supremacy better, added bots and multi stage matches

used to be terrible, only "good" mode was walker assault which was sort of like Breakthrough

but not good

and then once they made Battlefront 2 good, they left

[warm stirrup]

Respectively to work on this game

[prisma herald]

will dice add skins for vault guns? could be cool.

[quaint vector]

I'm not expecting that

[fervent rose]

i think i seent an m16 skin

so unless thats a one off

[shadow arch]

also im playing bf2042, on my ps4 as i talk,

[still vault]

#battlefield-legacy-titles for Battlefield 1 stuff.

[quaint vector]

Second one looks like just a bug.. Its 5 years old video.

[surreal portal]

W mod

[shadow arch]

Mackay will never stop looking like the scout from tf2 Am i right, mods, put a photo of Mackay and the scout from tf2 alongside each other to prove my opinion

[fervent rose]

i think thats kinda intentional

[warm stirrup]

Why not boost the server and do it yourself?

[quaint vector]

[remote meteor]

They said they will be looking into vault weapon attachments and skins in the future. So maybe we get it during season 4 or when season 5 drops or during that.

[bitter mulch]

i think this would work but on 64p maps, just a little bigger a few km left and right

[mental delta]

they said they were considering adding skins and improving performances on vault weapons but it's mostly just talking, they just want to give you hopes so you stay interested into this game

[mental delta]

128 was a good idea overall, just not for BF2042

[fervent rose]

128 makes it very difficult to design maps that work well in both breakthrough and conquest. and rush also gets the shaft

[rotund ledge]

this is a hot take, but I really liked battlefield hardlines maps

I want more American maps

malls, cities, suburbs, that sort of thing

bf3 close quarters level of detail

[solar obsidian]

how about no, and keep having interesting places instead

[analog stirrup]

open fields aren't that interesting

[fervent rose]

i dont really care for having mundane when i could have a bunch of different exotic locations

but the overuse of "natural environments" is annoying. they need more urban

[solar obsidian]

i can agree we could use some urban settings

just avoid usa, its been done to death already in so many games

give me tokyo at night

[fervent rose]

tokyo Devastation style would be a sight. but they dont have to go that fantastical

[solar obsidian]

or hell, make a map between malmø and copenhagen

squish it a little

water inbetween

[ashen gulch]

i hope the remake of hourglass gives more buildings with this vibe like in the the launch trailer

[solar obsidian]

i hope hourglass, gets hourglasses

name clearly lying

[fervent rose]

i feel like hourglass could be great if they actually put in Breakaway level work. You'd have a really cool mix of urban at first, and then you push the highway into the stadium

make the highway more like Twisted Steel and it's got potential

[solar obsidian]

hot take, there are simply too little deformation of vehicles when they damaged

[fervent rose]

we are lucky tank turrets cook off at all

[solar obsidian]

when destruction is worse than an rts that runs over 120fps most of the time with a moddest cpu

[rotund ledge]

theres a ton of interesting places in the us... thats the worst argument I heard against that stance

[rotund ledge]

I agree more urban, I think bf2042 maps are mundane

[fervent rose]

i think exposure and spearhead are pretty fantastic

[rotund ledge]

im thinking like NYC timesquare, washington DC,

[fervent rose]

but the rest are not

[rotund ledge]

a map in moscow would be rad

[solar obsidian]

new york lol

[rotund ledge]

haha so funny

thx

[solar obsidian]

whole manhattan must be the most used place in urban games the last 15 years

[rotund ledge]

in battlefield?

[solar obsidian]

gta 4,
the division

naah

[rotund ledge]

hardline may have

[fervent rose]

going to "tourist" locations is lame. its fine if its just a little thing in the distance like Metro being in Paris

[solar obsidian]

but i like my games to stand out

crysis 2-3

[rotund ledge]

NYC is the perfect warzone

[solar obsidian]

like holy shit we had many

[rotund ledge]

like its one of the biggest cities

no wonder its used lmaoo

[solar obsidian]

nyc is the perfect place to drop a nuke, and fight everywhere else

[solar obsidian]

might as well find a city in china then

[rotund ledge]

thatd be cool too

[solar obsidian]

oh wait, they already did that

[rotund ledge]

like I think you are vastly underestimating how much of a fan favorite these maps would be

this is iconic modern warfare

[toxic wigeon]

Why are servers messed up

It’s so laggy

[rotund ledge]

first time?

[solar obsidian]

yes lets copy the competitor even more /s

[toxic wigeon]

No lol

[rotund ledge]

and siege of shanghai was probably most peoples best memorable experience

[rotund ledge]

they already did

look at the gunplay

mw2 has more recoil than battlefield

used to be opposite

mw2 used to be less immersive

now its more immersive

LOL

lol

[rotund ledge]

specialists, skins

map design ALWAYS wins for cod tho

[toxic wigeon]

Mw2 guns feel terrible

[fervent rose]

cod's map design has been laughable for years

[solar obsidian]

its just the visual recoil /screenshake

we need to get used to

[rotund ledge]

they feel stronger, and more meaty

[solar obsidian]

guns feels good

[rotund ledge]

the gun animations in cod are much better

get outta here if you disagree

[solar obsidian]

its just visual, dont affect guns reoil

[toxic wigeon]

It’s still horrible tho lol

[solar obsidian]

clubpenguin thinking his opinion is the only thing that matter

i can understand why you think that

[rotund ledge]

nah, I just provide reasoning to my arguments

[lament plank]

Wow I sure love that after the renewal rework the RU side is still at a disadvantage because DICE was to fucking lazy to look at the objectives and the problems with the map allowing the US team to always have an easier time capping E than the RU team can cap A. Same as before rework a disgustingly unfair advantage.

[shadow arch]

i found a way to snipe on the spearhead map in conquest

[rotund ledge]

battlefield maps need to be symmetrical, otherwise you end up with that

bf4 had the same issues

[solar obsidian]

you properly sitting with so much blur from your screen all immersion dies anyways

[rotund ledge]

blur? motion blur?

[fervent rose]

i just find mw2 visually awful. like the mini flashbang effect thing you get with dmr (i think thats what it was at least, i didnt play long)

[rotund ledge]

I don't get "sitting with so much blur"

[solar obsidian]

no terrible response times

[rotund ledge]

I have 144 fps

I probably only get 100 tho

[warm stirrup]

Shanghai was everyone's worst experience tho? Once building collapsed map was unplayable

[rotund ledge]

I agree

but the levolution was sick

[solar obsidian]

using fps as a messure for response times already tell me how little you know

[warm stirrup]

Staged levolution is awful

[toxic wigeon]

Levolution gets old, real destruction like houses breaking apart in Bfv and bf1 is so much better

[rotund ledge]

easy fix? add a ticket clause to the trigger. if tickets <= 200, allow tower to fall

[solar obsidian]

this 100%

[fervent rose]

bf4 scripted levelution is boring

[rotund ledge]

both should be used

[solar obsidian]

when company of heroes 3 have more dynamic destruction than this game

[rotund ledge]

better than bf2042 destuction

[warm stirrup]

Scripted levolution doesn't belong in a battlefield game

[fervent rose]

ripple effect's destruction on Arica Harbor should be used more in the real game, so weird how that is not shared across the entire game

[rotund ledge]

I'd say most people disagree

[fervent rose]

it looks really nice on Arica

[solar obsidian]

@rotund ledgewhat monitor do you have?

[rocky kraken]

new map kinda has arica type

not really

[lament plank]

Literally has nothing to do with map symmetry. Their home objectives are inside buildings that have very minor destructible parts that allow you sight inside. And neither have a visible access from the roof. And yet E, inside a building with wide open windows and roof access for them to air drop on, snipe out of, etc is disgustingly unfair. Sure feels great trying to cap your home point and just getting killed by a condor hovering over a hole in the ceiling. Can’t do that on A though.

[warm stirrup]

How so? You speak for the community?

[rotund ledge]

what does it matter

[rocky kraken]

i still dislike how arica has 50 of the same houses copy and pasted

[rotund ledge]

nah, just look at reddit posts

watch youtube

look at twitter

get a mindset

[solar obsidian]

you could actually learn something here

[warm stirrup]

I have

[toxic wigeon]

Levolution is the most overrated thing to ever happen to battlefield imo

[rocky kraken]

true

[fervent rose]

@rocky kraken well it was a 360 game. and you're supposed to blow them up

[warm stirrup]

Many people hated scripted levolution

[rocky kraken]

non scripted destruction is better

[rotund ledge]

correct, both sides should have interior locations that are identical

[rocky kraken]

and i hope thats in the next title

which i feel like it will be

[rotund ledge]

huh?

[rocky kraken]

Frostbite 4 showed off some insane destruction

so im somewhat optimistic

[toxic wigeon]

When people talk about bf4 destruction in 2042 99% if the time they are talking about Levolution

[rocky kraken]

yeah

tbh

[fervent rose]

insane destruction that would cause us to get 12 fps with 128

we'll see

[rocky kraken]

bf4 didnt have much destruction except for levolution

as far as i can remember

[shadow arch]

I found out how to properly snipe on the spearhead map, @still vault,

[toxic wigeon]

It didn’t besides houses

[rotund ledge]

I mean, virtually all concrete building collasped

[rocky kraken]

yeaa

but thats in 2042

[solar obsidian]

you could get an idea of the flaws of your monitor and why immersion is such a bad word, when most who use it have the worst setup for getting good immersion

[rotund ledge]

it took bf2042 a while to get that

[solar obsidian]

also having variable framerate is terrible for immersion

[toxic wigeon]

No it didn’t lmao

[rocky kraken]

but performance is the issue

[toxic wigeon]

It was in at launch

[rotund ledge]

Immersion is more than graphics

Its gameplay, its audio, its mechanics

[solar obsidian]

im not even talking about graphics

[rotund ledge]

you are talking about my monitor....

[solar obsidian]

yeah, not the graphics

[shadow arch]

Anybody fuckin read what i said dammit

[solar obsidian]

two different things,

[rocky kraken]

you learned to snipe

[rotund ledge]

uhhh ok, whatever you wanna call it

the visual pictures?

lmao

[arctic grove]

RIGHT?

[shadow arch]

0

0

[rotund ledge]

very cool, thanks for sharing

[arctic grove]

fucken 2042 guns feel weak and sound meh

[rocky kraken]

also we wanna talk about how cod has senior animators who have been at their craft for like 20 years

[solar obsidian]

you just a child

[rocky kraken]

they should have godly animations

[arctic grove]

they do

[rocky kraken]

i kno

[rotund ledge]

battlefield should have that too.

[rocky kraken]

i mean

they did

[rotund ledge]

now we are resorting to insults... k

[rocky kraken]

until the rehire splurge

wish oscar stayed

[lament plank]

Jesus fucking Christ like I can’t even spawn in to take E on renewal as RU without getting gunned down from rooftops. Really DICE how the FUCK is this your map design even after a “rework”

[arctic grove]

whats wrong with mw2 animations

[patent prism]

called peter's principle

[arctic grove]

they're amazing

[rocky kraken]

yeah

they are cool

[rotund ledge]

100%

[arctic grove]

even player movement looks amazing

the side walk

[rocky kraken]

but thats where 90% of the budget went

obviously

[rotund ledge]

I even imported the mw2 guns into my modded fallout 4 game

like they are that good lol

[arctic grove]

sounds are amazing

[fervent rose]

renewal is funny its like they fixed half and said okay good enough, the green field side can stay 99% the same

[rocky kraken]

we can hope that frostbite 4 brings more animation control and quality

[patent prism]

You might not want to share that information as that is probably not legal.

[rocky kraken]

which it likely will

[rotund ledge]

it is, you just need to credit the devs

[toxic wigeon]

Lol it’s done on Roblox all the time

On twitter I see videos of Roblox fps games

[rocky kraken]

roblox frontlines

[patent prism]

I am open-minded but skeptical.

[toxic wigeon]

And people are like “omg this is Roblox”

[rocky kraken]

that game is actually good

[rotund ledge]

check the nexus then

[toxic wigeon]

Even tho like everything is just taken from other games lmao

[patent prism]

Common practice does not equal legal.

[arctic grove]

arent roblox games poorly optimized

[toxic wigeon]

Yes it’s a bad game engine

But it’s old

[patent prism]

So, the Call of Duty developers have explicitly stated that their work can be exported to other software in exchange for credit alone?

[toxic wigeon]

The devs themselves prob don’t care

[warm stirrup]

Dude knows nothing about copyright

[fervent rose]

the devs themselves probably play fallout 4 and think those mods are cool as fuck

[shadow arch]

what about the artillery truck campers

in bf1

[patent prism]

Tbf I kinda don't, it just sounds odd to me that they would allow it for purely credit.

[rotund ledge]

"We generally tolerate ports from game studios as long as they do not contact us about it.

As long as your mod is not opted in to recieve DP and is given proper accredation, we'll be able to tolerate it"

[warm stirrup]

They don't it is illegal

[shadow arch]

nuketown would have been a huge city if it was a battlefield map

[patent prism]

That's not the Call of Duty developers though, is it?

[warm stirrup]

It's not

[rotund ledge]

aint my problem

[arctic grove]

get stuff from warzone for free without buying the mp and port it to roblox

to make f2p mp

[fervent rose]

if nexus gets emails from activision they would take the mods down

its simple

but they havent so its fine for now

[patent prism]

I was under the impression that you personally exported the models and such from Call of Duty to Fallout 4, in which case it would very much be a problem.

[mental delta]

They should go back to a lower player count then, 80 or 88 would be cool

[rotund ledge]

distribution is the problem

[rocky kraken]

agreed

[warm stirrup]

Whoever made the mod would face legal damages too

[rocky kraken]

i think a fine line between 64 and 128 would be fine

[rotund ledge]

if you own both games, and are porting assets, then there isn't a legal problem

[fervent rose]

96 maybe

[warm stirrup]

Wrong

[lament plank]

Yep wow cool my team finally capped E for all of 2 minutes before 15 US people showed up and re took it but sure the rework made the map better sure. I’d LOVE to see dice post the map stats somewhere because I can guarantee it is completely one sided for who wins on renewal more

[rotund ledge]

and even if there was, nobody is going to have the time to pursue this

[patent prism]

I am virtually certain there is.

[shadow arch]

Well let me tell you about how you can properly snipe on spearhead in bf2042 , All you gotta do is 1. while riding or piloting the condor, and if goes through objective e1 or c2, 2. get out of the condor, once out, parachute towards Objective e1 or c2 whichever one, then once that happens, you will be on top of the building on objectives e1 or c2, 3. once you landed, on either those 2 objectives, call in a vehicle, this will make it easier to snipe because if you try without calling a vehicle then you wont able to snipe, 4. afterwards, when the vehicle has been called, (place nearby the edge of the building,) get on the vehicle and boom that is how you can snipe off the building in spearhead

[toxic wigeon]

It would have to be 96

[mental delta]

Yeah I also thought of that

[toxic wigeon]

Because 64+32

[rocky kraken]

guys

make petition for 96 player

[toxic wigeon]

48 player yeams

[patent prism]

Doesn't really change the fact it's not legal.

[rocky kraken]

to reddit i go

[rotund ledge]

find me where its not legal to port assets from games you own

just look at the fallout remastering projects

[fervent rose]

128 is too much for their point design. you over zerg these tiny spots

[warm stirrup]

Find me where it is legal

[rotund ledge]

k one sec

[patent prism]

Squad, Battlefield, Call of Duty, Post Scriptum, etc etc.

[rotund ledge]

trying to play battlefield but if you insist

[rocky kraken]

dice wont give up 128p tho

even tho it doesnt work

[fervent rose]

it's dice so it's a complete 50/50 if 128 is in the next title

[toxic wigeon]

128 isn’t bad if the maps are good

[lament plank]

HAAHAHAHAHAHA IF THE MAPS ARE GOOD, HILARIOUS JOKE LOL

[fervent rose]

128 doesnt function properly on breakthrough

[toxic wigeon]

I never hated 128 tbh

[rocky kraken]

128 is too much imo

[toxic wigeon]

Ye that’s why they removed it

[rocky kraken]

64 p was always fine

[toxic wigeon]

Fugin dumbass

[rocky kraken]

and it makes more actualy strategy

[lament plank]

Imagine having to rework every launch map in a year because they were so garbage and selling it as a full price game

[rocky kraken]

rather than just running in

[patent prism]

You don't "own" the game, you own a license to use it for personal entertainment purposes. You own a copy of the game, not the game itself, nor the content from that game.

[rocky kraken]

all of cods maps are shit and they dont rework them

[fervent rose]

trying to make a map big enough for 128 conquest and make it good at 64 breakthrough seems incredibly complicated

[rocky kraken]

so i dont really care

[rotund ledge]

i really dont care

[toxic wigeon]

Insulted the wrong guy lmao rip

[patent prism]

Man, I'm just telling you it ain't a good idea to advertise illegal activities.

[toxic wigeon]

It’s not legal

[rocky kraken]

if it was illegal

[toxic wigeon]

But not like he’s really doing much lol

[severe edge]

Quien para unas partidas insanas en battlefield 1

[rotund ledge]

and i am telling you i will port whatever I want

[patent prism]

You as the consumer (probably) aren't culpable for it, but the person who did the porting is.

[rotund ledge]

just wait until I tell you about the games i obtained for free

[patent prism]

Okay, well, don't be surprised if you get a (I think it's called) a DMCA in the future for your clearly illegal practices.

[rotund ledge]

HMU fam

[patent prism]

I don't own any intellectual property in any game that any soul would consider porting, so I am not really in a position to file such a claim.

[toxic wigeon]

I don’t really think they care tbh unless the animations and guns are being sold

[patent prism]

You're giving the impression that you're like, 12, and haven't read anything about how copyright works.

[fervent rose]

who gives a fuck about this really

[rotund ledge]

this, like they won't file DMCA claims unless you are selling their product

[severe edge]

Here found more people so speek spanish?

[rotund ledge]

I will port all the animations, textures, and meshes into fallout for as long as I live

[toxic wigeon]

Ye they don’t care if some random dude is putting the guns in his modded fallout game lmao

[rotund ledge]

come fight me hobbyist

[rotund ledge]

Hobbyist is by the book

[patent prism]

Obviously they don't, because there are so many instances of it that it would not be economically viable to bring up charges.

[rotund ledge]

so then who cares

[fervent rose]

why do you give a fuck if they dont give a fuck

[rotund ledge]

its like saying Jaywalking is illegal, but I still do it to save time

like I dont care enough

it only becomes an issue if you are jaywalking and impeding traffic

[royal swan]

The fuck is going on

This ain't about battlefield

[rotund ledge]

Hobbyist is going on a rant about being legal

[patent prism]

I don't, just trying to get the point across that it is illegal, even if no one catches it.

[acoustic seal]

enough about copyrights, lets talk about copywrongs

[fervent rose]

i jaywalked with police officers regularly at this one job, everyone did it

[rotund ledge]

Carbonic help me out

tell this man to chill out

[sour meadow]

does DICE know about transports being unkillable

[patent prism]

I think I've been fairly reasonable and calm, to be honest.

[royal swan]

Are you talking about the lav or the air transport

[patent prism]

I have yet to request a formal duel with pistols at dawn.

[sour meadow]

*transport heli

[toxic wigeon]

There was discussion on mw2 gun animations compared to bf2042 and then Penguin brought up how he had mw2 guns in his fallout save and then now the debate on how it’s legal or not and if they even care lol

[rotund ledge]

its about the battlefield IP

[sour meadow]

oh we talking about cod

[rotund ledge]

that too

[still vault]

I'm just here to make sure nobody is making things personal. You don't have to agree but you do have to behave.

[rotund ledge]

❤️

[royal swan]

Oh yeah it's mostly unkillable with a good pilot

[fervent rose]

transport hell*

[shadow arch]

look at this

[royal swan]

When did modding games become illegal

[acoustic seal]

every new vehicle is more overpowered than the last, so i'd venture to guess they're not interested unless it's being complained about daily

[sour meadow]

i'd be surprised if no on ewas complaining about it

[toxic wigeon]

He took the mw2 gun animation from files I’m assuming

[bitter mulch]

maybe yeah

[patent prism]

Depends on the developer's stance on it.

Some devs allow it, some don't.

[sour meadow]

decent transport pilots with 2 crawfords are literally impossible to take down

[royal swan]

You can deny their effectiveness with a wildcat using 30mm

[fervent rose]

a lot of defense sectors do not get a wildcat

[sour meadow]

which gun is that

the 2nd unlock?

[royal swan]

Keep peppering them and they mostly fuck off

[patent prism]

As a former Arma-addict, I know very well how fucking amazingly enjoyable mods are, but even within that world there is still a "law" about stolen content. Some mod developers do not allow repackaging of their mods or alterations thereof and I have seen in several cases mods being taken down for infringing on either another games' IP or another mod's.

[royal swan]

It's the default

[fervent rose]

breakthrough is where the hind/condor are truly broken

defense usually doesnt have the vehicles needed to fend them off

[sour meadow]

it makes them fuck off but it barely does enough damage to mean anything

[royal swan]

If you keep doing damage consistently it moves them away

Which removes their effectiveness

[mental delta]

The game didn't get enough development time for 128 players

[sour meadow]

what a compromise

[rotund ledge]

why do u speak like a lawyer

[royal swan]

They can't go to the objective when the wildcat is preventing it

[patent prism]

Trying to maintain a respectful attitude is all.

[sour meadow]

also what's the point of hacking when they can just pop flares right before the hack goes through so they can't get locked on

[bitter mulch]

not even for 64p

[royal swan]

Also a good sitting TOR can kill it easily if the heli is slow enough and in the line of fire

[sour meadow]

it feels like the transport helis were balanced to just be annoying

[fervent rose]

the sectors where attacking teams get 2 condors

who thought that was a good idea

[mental delta]

Lmao it's fun because by discussing here you tend to realize how terrible this game is and that it should have never been released

[sour meadow]

the rail tank is so good as an AA but no one picks it

[rotund ledge]

we just needa ditch bf2042 in protest

[royal swan]

I am the decent pilot people hate, but the best way to kill me is a TOR, a coordinated group, and maybe a wildcat if I don't leave it's line of sight

[patent prism]

I don't like tanks.

• Infantry main

[sour meadow]

everyone chooses the default tank or they choose the rail tank and then push into obj and insta die because everyone carries c5

[royal swan]

Tho rare the most that killed me was the tor

[mental delta]

What do you mean lol ?

[sour meadow]

all at the same time?

[royal swan]

He wants a boycott but we all know how that will go

[rotund ledge]

people need to stop populating the lobbies so they move onto the next game

[patent prism]

AFAIK they have already started work on the next title.

[royal swan]

No, but it can happen if you piss them off enough. It's just examples of what could and have killed me

[fervent rose]

sorry about your agenda or whatever but im gonna continue playing this game because the older bf games are hacked out

[bitter mulch]

well the turned it around. Now it really fun

[sour meadow]

was gonna say. "bruh this is a helicopter not a bf1 behemoth"

[patent prism]

I'm very cautious when it comes to games where it started shit and has since gotten better.

I think it's a shortcut to lower an audience's expectations.

[sour meadow]

it's weird how close season 4 is

it feels like it's a month or so away

but it's literally 2 days away

[toxic wigeon]

In tier 91

Completed the Easter egg

And have two mission left

[patent prism]

Can't wait to see 128 Blasco's in one lobby.

Gonna be amazing.

[sour meadow]

i was complaining about the new gl launcher

[jovial jay]

Lol

[sour meadow]

but then i realized only the assault can use it

[toxic wigeon]

I’ll prob but the rest of the pass, I have enough boins

[jovial jay]

2 more days until tanker just setup camp and farm kill

[toxic wigeon]

This season was boring to me tbh

[sour meadow]

thought it was the best so far

binged the fuck out of 3 when it launched

[toxic wigeon]

Content was better

Than past

Just didn’t really like the map tbh

[sour meadow]

map was great

[toxic wigeon]

Got old way faster than the itbers

Others

It’s not a bad map tho

It’s just ok

[royal swan]

It started with I'm always spotted on the map to I can't see jackshit shit

[patent prism]

I liked Spearhead purely because it's from my part of the world. They did fairly well in replicating the northern Swedish environment.

[royal swan]

There will be so many signal jams

[warm stirrup]

Anyone gonna tier 1 the new grenade launcher?

[mental delta]

Lmao you just want to watch Dice burn I like this ngl

[mental delta]

It's fun but it's still not a BF to me

[plucky chasm]

Is it just me or isn2042 taking forever to be good

[toxic wigeon]

How lmao

[plucky chasm]

Same

[toxic wigeon]

What do you need to be a bf

[fervent rose]

i think it's a battlefield game now, just one with very poor maps

[patent prism]

Kinda wish they would have chosen another backdrop than two cubes in the middle of nowhere. Something like the Kiruna iron ore mine would have been cool as a more CQB focused map.

[royal swan]

And no weapon restrictions but that ok

I want vault weapons skins and 2042 attachments

[warm stirrup]

So the new vehicle is just an upgraded mav?

[toxic wigeon]

Fuck weapon restrictions Ngl

Never liked em

[fervent rose]

i could live with them tweaking that more and adding in some restrictions. but the way it works is fine

[ripe hedge]

would you like weapon restrictions again?

[fervent rose]

only very limited ones

[plucky chasm]

Bf needs proper classes no specialist bullsuit then it's a bf game

[royal swan]

I would prefer the proficiency weapons to be restricted but everything else universal

[fervent rose]

not like 1 category per class, that would be so painful

[plucky chasm]

Yes

[sinful frigate]

We need more bundles!!!!!!!!!!!!

I’m itching to spend $14 on a mediocre urban camo for my M5

[royal swan]

But I would have vault weapons worked on over that any day, I want cool vault weapons skins and locked attachments

[patent prism]

I think BF4 did it fairly well with what was class specific and what was universal.

[toxic wigeon]

Wasn’t universal stuff just dmrs and shotguns tho

[plucky chasm]

YESS a bf4 enjoyer

[patent prism]

DMR, Shotguns, Carbines.

[plucky chasm]

Bf4 system was pre good

[toxic wigeon]

Bf4 has too much stuff lol

Like most guns were basically reskins lol

With some numbers changed

[fervent rose]

if 2042 ever got restrictions i hope it is very small stuff like Assault losing Snipers

not Assault lose half the weapons

[ripe hedge]

How so?

[turbid geode]

I like the spearhead cubes, but it would've been better if they added more things onto the map to make it feel more like a factory area like service tunnels that goes from 1 cube to the other

[low timber]

MCS-880 is so bad
How is it still so bad after this many months

[mental delta]

What really disturbs me is the amount of content which is so low

[plucky chasm]

Bullshit every gunnwas unique unlike this one not enough guns

[rotund ledge]

more so just bf2042

[royal swan]

It was just a quick idea, having some weapons strictly for one class but also having other weapons universal for every class

[plucky chasm]

Same it's disturbing halo is getting 3 maps next season and we get 1 for bf

[mental delta]

I want to be mean but I don't think the amount of weapons in this game is important enough to get weapon restrictions

[toxic wigeon]

Tf you mean every gun was unique, most did the same exact things lmao just with different numbers

[plucky chasm]

New game already being made

[rotund ledge]

I think if the one team captures all objectives, that should start a lockout timer for the other team, instead of waiting for tickets to drain

[royal swan]

Like a medic with a sniper won't genuinely be at the front lines doing medic stuff

[plucky chasm]

No it didn't I guess we didn't play the same game

[rotund ledge]

but i want more eyes on it

[mental delta]

Yeah 2 maps would be a bare minimum tbh, I find the game boring 3 weeks after new season because you already played a lot on new map

[rocky kraken]

yes

[warm stirrup]

Let's break it down...
16 maps, 10 aow, 6 portal
All aow maps had to be remade twice for 64p and 128p
Technically 26 maps

[plucky chasm]

Ok but it hasn't been announced

Lol remade maps don't count their not new

[rocky kraken]

i dont count reworks as new maps

its nice we get reworks

but they arent new maps

maybe besides breakaway

[fervent rose]

hourglass better feel like a new map

just sayin

[mental delta]

LMAO how did you get a total count of 26 ? I give you 14 at best because 10 AOW maps and 4 Portal ones used in AOW, everything else doesn't exist

[plucky chasm]

Yes tbh 4 maps a month should be minimum but if their overworking 3 maps is fine

[plucky chasm]

It will

[mental delta]

3 maps would be fine af but they set my expectations so low that 2 seems reasonable to me, 1 map each season is just kinda disrespectful

[rocky kraken]

3 maps is a shit ton of work

especially at 2042s size

2 would be fine

[plucky chasm]

Lmaoo jo it's not

No

[rocky kraken]

thats just live service

at this point

aint gonna change

[plucky chasm]

3 maps is 1 map a month if a season is 3 months?

[mental delta]

That's why they should reduce player count on the next game and make smaller maps, will be probably easier to design

[plucky chasm]

That's not unreasonable

[rocky kraken]

what game produces that many maps lol

[fervent rose]

i think 8 good maps in a year is what we should expect like bare minimum. but they had to rework 7 giant maps

[rocky kraken]

reworks ruined those chances

[royal swan]

@ripe hedge here's a better idea of it, restrict weapons from classes that can negatively impact the role of said class. Like the falck sniper loadout.

[rocky kraken]

we would have been getting like 2 a season

[plucky chasm]

ATM not many cus every game only cares about the shop more then the content

[rocky kraken]

exactly

at least 2042 is doing far better than cod

[plucky chasm]

Which is a major issue

[rocky kraken]

indeded

but if 2042 launched with good maps

[mental delta]

Yeah at BF4 and BF1 time it was 4 maps per season, so more than 1 map every month, 1 map is just a shame for this game

[rocky kraken]

we would have like

double the maps by now

so its unfortunate

[plucky chasm]

Exactly bring back 64 or make it 72 or something

[mental delta]

I agree on that, BF2042 became more interesting than MW2

[royal swan]

Orbital is iconic map now

[warm stirrup]

Battlefield 4 and 1 also had paid dlc

[royal swan]

The face of Battlefield 2042

[plucky chasm]

So

[rocky kraken]

which is why i hope they continue seasons and provide 2 maps per season after the reworks are over

or at least do a season 6 with 2 or 3 maps

[plucky chasm]

The content was better and they delivered on time

[mental delta]

Which was way better, you paid but you had actual content

[warm stirrup]

Devs had extra income to make extra resources

[plucky chasm]

Lollllllll

Fuck I'm laughing so much

Devs have so much money from micros

[fervent rose]

dlc map packs for a mp shooter are a thing of the past

[plucky chasm]

More then map packs ever rn

[mental delta]

I think they confirmed the amount of map each season would be constant even after all the remakes are done

[fervent rose]

why do so many insist on this relic

[rocky kraken]

well then they go to season 8

[fervent rose]

its dead let it rest

[plucky chasm]

Cus content better back then

[fervent rose]

premium is 6 feet under

[rocky kraken]

game cant live with this many maps

needs more

like 5 or 6 more

[rotund ledge]

but... its already dead

it was dead 4 seasons ago

[mental delta]

I don't, so they can all go on the next game's development and we get a finished game when it comes out

[royal swan]

Was

[plucky chasm]

I think 3 maps a month isn't unreasonable like you said the standard was set we had 4 a season before why not now?

[toxic wigeon]

Map packs suck tbh

Mainly if paid

[royal swan]

It's like around 10,000 players now

[toxic wigeon]

Free hood ofc

[rotund ledge]

it is dead four seasons ago

[toxic wigeon]

Bf4 dlc maps are pretty much dead

[plucky chasm]

Map packs are fine

[toxic wigeon]

No servers host them

[plucky chasm]

Nah they got servers

Yea they do

[toxic wigeon]

When I played bf4 last there was only like one server with premium maps being jostes

[royal swan]

I no longer get the bot lobbies that increased my general kd

[toxic wigeon]

Hosted

[royal swan]

It's not dead

[plucky chasm]

When I played bf4 last I had dlc servers were you playing late?

[royal swan]

I get that full lobby match

[toxic wigeon]

Like 5 months ago

[plucky chasm]

Really damn that's surprising

[prisma herald]

Call of duty takes the same maps every years and apply a new skins. Battlefield had way enough maps that could have been reskinned to BF2042 like Metro

[toxic wigeon]

On console

The server was full tho

[plucky chasm]

Ohhh on console

[mental delta]

Because they lowered my expectations, they showed us they can barely make playable maps at launch, if they can't even launch a game with decent content how could they make more than 3 maps each season lol, they can't even make 2

[toxic wigeon]

But don’t remember seeing other premium servers

[plucky chasm]

I thought bf4 was dead on cons9le

That's surprising

[toxic wigeon]

It is lol

[rotund ledge]

the bots were such a failed feature

[toxic wigeon]

Nah

[plucky chasm]

It is dead if you mean AAA numbers

[royal swan]

No not really, it kinda makes the game a less grind fest and little more alive

[toxic wigeon]

Bots are good

Even tho the ai is bad

[fervent rose]

most of the time there's no bots in my games. like 95% of the time

[royal swan]

Oh yeah the ai is stupid

[toxic wigeon]

So much better than a training range

[plucky chasm]

Oh man I remember trying PS4 one and there was no servers like 2 months ago hahaha

[rotund ledge]

thats what I meant

[toxic wigeon]

Like last games

[pastel loom]

I find them ruining the gameplay pace for real players
they don't fit together

[fervent rose]

and having bots as an option is way more fun than a bad training range like bfv

[plucky chasm]

Idk I like the training range

[rotund ledge]

the bots were a failed feature because the AI was dumb

[plucky chasm]

They should bring that back

[toxic wigeon]

Training range is fine

[plucky chasm]

As well

[royal swan]

Bfv training range sucked ass

[toxic wigeon]

But I prefer the bots lol

[royal swan]

Everything was to far apart

[plucky chasm]

I mean bf4 one @royal swan

[toxic wigeon]

You can test vehicles and guns

[royal swan]

Oh the bf4 was good

[toxic wigeon]

Compared to just shooting at moving targets

[fervent rose]

Portal has "training range" stuff or you can make your own

[plucky chasm]

Bf4 you could learn how to fly etc

[plucky chasm]

Yea I never play bfv should b more clear

[toxic wigeon]

Coop bots is best if everything imo

You get to test vehicles and guns

And play full rounds

[royal swan]

Coop is a training and a way to grind attachments and weapons easier

[plucky chasm]

True bots is fun in small bursts

[fervent rose]

learning how to fly solo in a bot lobby is very nice

[plucky chasm]

Gets boring fast

[royal swan]

Like I wonder if my set up is good, just pop in a game of coop

[fervent rose]

that's great for new players

[warm stirrup]

In 2 days we'll be able to grind attachments in portal against bots too

[fervent rose]

only on vanilla servers

i think

[plucky chasm]

Oh well yea the 3 big FPS all failed their live service lmao halo cod and bf

[royal swan]

Bf2042 is the last standing from that year

Halo infinite is just dead

[plucky chasm]

I thought you already could

[royal swan]

Vanguard is dev dead and almost community dead

[plucky chasm]

Halo has 6k and bf 10k their pre similar

[rotund ledge]

i like mw2, but I was surprised how buggy it was

[plucky chasm]

Or am I missing something

[warm stirrup]

Bots restrict xp rn

[plucky chasm]

Really? How could you get scopes before then

[royal swan]

Oh attachments weren't restricted

It was XP

[plucky chasm]

Hmm I did too but it was way too sweaty

Ohh so you can get xp with bots now that's nice

[warm stirrup]

Season 4 pvp bots can gain full xp up to mastery 12, and challenges and ribbons

[rotund ledge]

ummm have you seen people in bf2042

[royal swan]

Actually long ago, attachments had a bug that was fixed where you couldn't unlock them

[rotund ledge]

especially pilots

[plucky chasm]

That's really good change

[shadow arch]

someone made a ytp of the bf1 war story Friends in high places, look in the #streams-and-videos area, and you will see

[fervent rose]

you can finally set up a vanilla 2042 server with a custom map list with pvp ai so you arent sitting in an empty lobby waiting for people

dunno why it took this long

[plucky chasm]

Yea man but bf has no sbmm

[royal swan]

I 100% finished all bf1 Champaigns

[plucky chasm]

Damn, it feels like a launch feature

[fervent rose]

yeah exactly

[royal swan]

Like I got black Betty skin for the tank

[prisma herald]

after 7 years gg

[fervent rose]

we are still missing breakthrough in portal though

so its not even finished

[royal swan]

I want the ai to be more overwhelmed like in battlefront 2

[plucky chasm]

Really wtf

[royal swan]

Battlefront 2 AI was stupid but holy shit where they on another level

[warm stirrup]

Remember in battlefront 2 there was always one bot that followed you?

[plucky chasm]

The battlefront 2 team are no more I'm pre sure

They got fired

[royal swan]

You genuinely couldn't win a coop game in battlefront 2 without a good squad of players

If you were like down one man you were FUCKED

Hell you genuinely don't win coop in battlefront 2

[plucky chasm]

God what a buggy meas

Mess this game is

[warm stirrup]

Instant action co op was a lot easier than regular co op

[plucky chasm]

Instant action was so fucking good

[warm stirrup]

Mainly cuz all ai could use all special reinforcements

[plucky chasm]

Also the audio was perfect unlike 2042

[royal swan]

Yep that's the one, where ai used starwars characters

[remote kiln]

it's one of the portal maps so stability isn't guaranteed

[warm stirrup]

Ai heroes were so op tho

[plucky chasm]

Are you guys surprised ripple effect made the new map

Not dice

[remote kiln]

no

why is it surprising

[plucky chasm]

Idk I thought dice would make it?

[remote kiln]

ripple effect have made maps before

it's not their first time

[plucky chasm]

Oh

I thought they just made the portal maps

[remote kiln]

they are the reincarnation of the DICE LA studio

[royal swan]

The map that I genuinely win is the tatooine map on the imperial side last sector, I just played the Champaign girl with the nade launcher as the ai just does in a straight line down a open hallway

[remote kiln]

and they made maps for BF4

[plucky chasm]

Ohhhhh

They should be helming the franchise then

[remote kiln]

wouldn't be a great idea

[plucky chasm]

Why not

Dice LA saved bf4

[remote kiln]

the ripple effect team is tiny compared to the main DICE team

[plucky chasm]

If it's the same people

Ohhh

[remote kiln]

and it's also why they had to compromise on the maps they were building for BF4, they didn't have the resources

[plucky chasm]

Ohhhh well hopefully with dices new management the future games will be better

[remote kiln]

they seem pretty on cue, for a DICE which ignored their players for nearly a decade, so that's a mammoth improvement already

[plucky chasm]

I think so

[royal swan]

I hope for orbital to get a remake in a upcoming battlefield game

[plucky chasm]

That's true communication is the best thing we need

[royal swan]

Can't wait for hourglass rework

[remote kiln]

not communication

[royal swan]

Tired of that ass map

[plucky chasm]

What then

If you get hourglass just quit the match bro

[remote kiln]

listening to the players, DICE have a prolific history of not only ignoring players but actively laughing at them

[plucky chasm]

Hmm sounds like 343 industries

[remote kiln]

it isn't a 343 situation

343 are not a competent studio, DICE are

they simply had false hubris

[royal swan]

The communication has gotten better but sometimes we are just left in the dark

[remote kiln]

wind back the clock and it wasn't uncommon for DICE to be calling basic player reforms to the game a hitpiece

[plucky chasm]

What so 2042 wasn't a fail

[remote kiln]

nevermind BFV TTK changes

[plucky chasm]

And true 343 is way worse defs the worst in gaming

[warm stirrup]

Battlefield 5 ttk was changed 3 times no?

[plucky chasm]

Squad management comes to mind

[remote kiln]

4 if you count it being reverted

[plucky chasm]

Oh yea bfv ttk wasn't it good then they changed it

[remote kiln]

5 with the miniscule ones

and DICE responding with the classical shut up to players saying it was a bad change

[remote kiln]

I wouldn't say so

[plucky chasm]

Even tho it took a year to fix to go form alpha to beta?

[remote kiln]

yes, it's rather common in this series

[plucky chasm]

Didn't dice also say if you don't like bfv just don't buy it and a lot of people didn't originally

Haha that was so funny

[remote kiln]

look back at history, bf3 and BF4 were not proper games until the last DLC release of either ones

[warm stirrup]

Don't forget 2042 was supposed to be a battle royale at first,then scrapped and remade into a battlefield game at the last second

[remote kiln]

but as per the norm we've got apologists for those games

[plucky chasm]

Really bf4 was good once dice LA fixed it

[remote kiln]

it wasnt

[plucky chasm]

It was

[warm stirrup]

Hence the horrible map designs

[plucky chasm]

Why wasn't it

[remote kiln]

DICE LA didn't "fix" it right up until the last CTE map released

that was 2 years after it launched

[plucky chasm]

I thought it was hero shooter

Really was it fuck

Damn my memory bad

[remote kiln]

BF4 didn't have 60hz servers until 1.5 years after its release

it was a total mess

[rotund ledge]

hit detection in bf4 is still ass

[remote kiln]

lol don't even get me started on hit detection

[shadow arch]

Hey Explain to me this https://www.youtube.com/shorts/CeUsOQSycaw and this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gh8sotHoPa4&ab_channel=JustStuff, ( @still vault please convert these links into a video)

[warm stirrup]

There's codes in the files suggesting it was meant to be a battle royale

[plucky chasm]

Nah it's good @rotund ledge

[rotund ledge]

explain that to all the bunny hoppers

[remote kiln]

bullet shots not registering for over a year

[plucky chasm]

Oh okay

Makes sense

Um 2042 had that too didn't it

Shots not registered

[royal swan]

It had yeah

[plucky chasm]

I played it other day felt smooth as butter bro

[royal swan]

I think it was fixed a few months later

[plucky chasm]

Hahaha that's funny

[plucky chasm]

That's horrible

[remote kiln]

2042's development cycle is infinitely better than BF3 or 4's ever was, and no amount of crying about specialists changes history

[still vault]

BF1 videos without 2042 context don't belong in the 2042 channel.

[plucky chasm]

Yea but specialists are worse cmon

Then nameless soldier

[remote kiln]

I don't really have an opinion on them

could take it or leave it

the class system is filled with false nostalgia by this playerbase to the point of the franchise resisting common sense changes that only happened with 2042

[toxic wigeon]

Same

Specialists are fine

Imo

They have gadgets that would never be in other games

Like grapple hook

So they a bit more fun than average soldier

[rotund ledge]

this is the same reason that hardline failed

[royal swan]

Oh yeah the nostalgic effect is definitely in play

[toxic wigeon]

But makes sense why people don’t like them

[warm stirrup]

Grapple hook was in hardline

[rotund ledge]

I just don't like the gadgets

[toxic wigeon]

Yeah but wasn’t the same

[rocky kraken]

just saying

[remote kiln]

hardline was its own shitshow

[rotund ledge]

I hate this

[rocky kraken]

flashpoint is the first 2042 map ripple made?

[eager spire]

Hardline is cool tho

[rocky kraken]

i wonder why

[plucky chasm]

Specialists are not common sense

[rotund ledge]

I prefer modern warfares grapple hook where you zip onto the lines

helps out the team instead

[plucky chasm]

It's shit

[warm stirrup]

They made the portal maps

[remote kiln]

I never said they were, specialists have nothing to do with the class system

[plucky chasm]

Ok

[rocky kraken]

yea

but 2042 main maps

[plucky chasm]

How is the class system nostalgia it works for bd

[rocky kraken]

wonder what main dice is doign then?

[plucky chasm]

Bf

[remote kiln]

ripple effect only just got formed a few months ago

[rocky kraken]

how

[remote kiln]

it's kinda difficult to make a map when you don't exist as an entity

[rocky kraken]

why didnt they exist tho

[plucky chasm]

Wasn't ripple effect around on 2042 rekease

What do u mean

[rocky kraken]

is that why there has been zero portal maps

[warm stirrup]

False, they made the portal maps

[rotund ledge]

whats some of your top EDM artists

[toxic wigeon]

Nah they started in like s1 I think

[rocky kraken]

yeah they made portal

[plucky chasm]

On portal trailer b4 game out it says ripple effect

[remote kiln]

they were DICE LA, and they assisted with 2042's development, but ripple effect as a studio didn't exist until DICEs new management came in

[rocky kraken]

soo

does that mean new portal maps

[plucky chasm]

Why were they calling themselves ripple effect then

[rocky kraken]

and does that mean ripple effect is on 2042 now?

[toxic wigeon]

Nah they working in next bf single player

[plucky chasm]

If they dice LA?

[remote kiln]

because they were announced to being formed

the actual studio wasn't fully put together

[rocky kraken]

then why did they just make anew map

[plucky chasm]

Oh that's a strange move

[toxic wigeon]

Idk tbh

[rocky kraken]

no wonder portal is shit

lol

werent even established

welp

[plucky chasm]

It all makes senae

Sense

2042 is bf love letter guys

Remember

[rotund ledge]

Portal was WAY too ambitious for trying to tie that into the base game, and that other gamemode

[plucky chasm]

[toxic wigeon]

They said that about portal Tbf

[rotund ledge]

the result was half baking

[toxic wigeon]

Not about the main game

[remote kiln]

it's why they said next to nothing on their "commitment" to portal, cause they themselves had no clue what they were going to look like as a formed studio

[plucky chasm]

I'm pre sure it was main game

[toxic wigeon]

It wasn’t I looked a while ago

[plucky chasm]

Should've been separate game

Oh ok

Werid

[rotund ledge]

ehhhh

[toxic wigeon]

I don’t think portal would work as it’s own thing

But idk

[rotund ledge]

or just something that got released 4 years after