battlefield-2042

[sturdy socket]

I JUST SAW THE CHANGELOG

[copper ice]

im willing to bet sticky launcher will be

[sturdy socket]

LIS PLAYER L

[plucky chasm]

They have the best guns and everything

[solar tinsel]

everyone can use the same guns!

[edgy oriole]

a squad of specific lis (which what makes her good in the first place) still wont change with any nerf.

[solar tinsel]

what is happening right now

[copper ice]

assuming they have no irish

[fervent rose]

@plucky chasm i'm not a "vehicle player"

[eager spire]

Class weapon restrictions don't exist in this game

So that's not a problem

[plucky chasm]

Assualt has more mags so why would I choose anyone else right now

[solar tinsel]

well then at that point its no longer Lis vs 1 Vehicle player, it's Lis vs 2

[plucky chasm]

Engineer is irrelevant now

[copper ice]

yeah this is the biggest issue imo; lis consistent dps is low but a squad of lis burst damage is high
this makes her frustrating to play solo and frustrating to get fucked by as a vehicle player

[sturdy socket]

but still no javelin/soflam buff

disappointing

[plucky chasm]

Bet your happy

[solar tinsel]

I think the other engineers need buffs yes

[copper ice]

nah you can be irish and drive tank

[sturdy socket]

it's a step in the right direction

[edgy oriole]

its not an issue its just teamwork

[eager spire]

Engineer is largely irrelevant because Lis exists and the rest of the Engineer specialists and the other launchers are not great

[copper ice]

the solution to this is to reduce her damage but buff her recharge rate

[solar tinsel]

fair enough, I do think that could be addressed but in other ways

[eager spire]

It has nothing to do with how Assault is, so i'll ask again. What is the problem with Assault?

[solar tinsel]

Lis will be COMPLETELY fine in 4.0

[plucky chasm]

Just be assualt or flying chick fly and c5 people don't even bother with engineer now

[copper ice]

it kind of its

[edgy oriole]

teamwork isnt an issue friend.

[fervent rose]

its not a good type of teamwork

[plucky chasm]

Their getting sticky bombs lmao

[eager spire]

how often do you actually die to sundance players with C5?

[solar tinsel]

Lis can still be a great AA option

[fervent rose]

being able to mass rocket people from spawn is wack

[plucky chasm]

And 2 med pens one man army playstyle their supporting

[copper ice]

they didn't even stop Lis from 1hking helis

[solar tinsel]

and she can still make large contributions to fighting ground vehicles

[copper ice]

like they didn't actually

stop her being annoying

they didn't even fix her properly

[solar tinsel]

I don't know why people are worried about Lis in 4.0

[eager spire]

Ideal for both destruction and anti-infantry play.

hmm

[plucky chasm]

Bro she isn't annoying

[copper ice]

people are going to get mad when they still get 1hk by her

[eager spire]

I'm thinking it won't be a massive problem for vehicles

[copper ice]

she's irritating like a mosquito right now

[solar tinsel]

it just means you cant hide at the back of the map and do circles around the map like a bumblebee.

[plucky chasm]

Good they deserve it if they can't dodge

[solar tinsel]

She will still be effective

[plucky chasm]

Boom baby

[solar tinsel]

Here's a take. You don't deserve the kill if you can't hit the fucking target the first time

[copper ice]

i still think boris deserved a buff more than lis deserved a nerf

[eager spire]

"if they can't dodge" desync would like to have a word with you

[fervent rose]

its also good that lis players cant just turn the rocket around 2-3 times now

[plucky chasm]

Be OP when fighting then

[fervent rose]

you miss, you miss

[eager spire]

Lis didn't deserve a buff in the first place

[eager spire]

It's unclear how effective it'll actually be.

[copper ice]

you're right; flares and irish deserved a nerf

[plucky chasm]

I should be able to turn around and hit cus that takes skill

[copper ice]

but they decided to buff her instead

[solar tinsel]

bro its turning a stick

[copper ice]

they can't balance properly

[eager spire]

NO IT DOESN'T?

[fervent rose]

no it doesnt take skill lmao

[solar tinsel]

and you're getting MULTIPLE chances

[plucky chasm]

The latest trailer it looked op

[eager spire]

ARE YOU STUPID?

[solar tinsel]

skill is doing it right the first time

[plucky chasm]

Yes it does use skill

Turning around

[copper ice]

DO A BARREL ROLL

[plucky chasm]

And not smashing it

[solar tinsel]

You whining on how "air vehicles should just dodge" well fuck, "you should just not miss"

[eager spire]

IF YOU MISS THE FIRST TIME THAT'S NOT SKILL, THAT'S YOU FUCKING UP

[fervent rose]

you miss, but because the game takes no skill, you get multiple free attempts

[plucky chasm]

I should be given a 2nd chance it's a remote controlled missle

[fervent rose]

no you shouldnt

[solar tinsel]

Why should you?

[eager spire]

IT'S NOT THAT HARD TO USE EVEN

[plucky chasm]

In the future it makes sense In the lore

[solar tinsel]

Are you entitled to second chances?

LOL

LORE

[copper ice]

THE LORE

[eager spire]

WHO THE FUCK CARES ABOUT THE LORE

[solar tinsel]

LOLOLOLO

[copper ice]

i support this

lis is canonically OP

[eager spire]

What a fucking weak ass argument

[solar tinsel]

thats gotta be the funniest thing ever Ive heard on this server

[fervent rose]

when i have c5 out and am near a tank about to destroy it and get 1 blasted by an HE shell, I should get a 2nd chance to c5 that tank

[copper ice]

therefore she must be to maintain canonicity

[solar tinsel]

Bro how about this for lore: Lis is a badass and doesnt fuck up her shot

[plucky chasm]

Cus I hate buzzard little bird players they deserve death

[solar tinsel]

so dont fuck up the shot

[eager spire]

so hit them the first time

get better at the game

[copper ice]

tbf hitting little bird players is very difficult

[plucky chasm]

Haha well in the lore it would be able to turn around it is a funny argument but

[solar tinsel]

wow, this was a breakthrough moment for this argument

[eager spire]

Shut up

Just stop talking

[plucky chasm]

Why don't gatekeep me

[eager spire]

?!??!?!?!!!?!?!?!?!!?1

[solar tinsel]

Nobody is saying you cant have fun with Lis

[pastel loom]

is that what tightening the rocket angle mean?

[solar tinsel]

bit that doesnt entitle you to kill or destroy anybody

[solar tinsel]

In 4.0 it will be harder to turn, essentially

[fervent rose]

@pastel loom ye, you wont be able to spin it around

[eager spire]

nah i think that is a nerf

[sturdy socket]

hmm

[copper ice]

stevo is successfully dodging all your arguments

[solar tinsel]

They are measuing angle from front (0) to the left or right

[plucky chasm]

So I'm only one who likes lis being op?

[sturdy socket]

HMMMMMMMM

HMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM......

[copper ice]

the phrasing of this is poor tbh

[eager spire]

Because he has no actual rebuttals

[sturdy socket]

i wonder why

this was pushed

[solar tinsel]

I appreciate you admit Lis being OP for once

and yes I think so

[copper ice]

just make your arguments turn and hit him again

[solar tinsel]

they go on to clarify below

[plucky chasm]

She's only op I'm the air not the ground as others have said

[eager spire]

Most people don't appreciate things that are blatantly overpowered

And just because you can't hit your shots doesn't mean it's justified

[stiff pollen]

He only started playing this season cut him some slack

[copper ice]

adjusting input clamping can be taken in both ways still tbh

[eager spire]

You don't get free second chances just because you suck

[stiff pollen]

[plucky chasm]

Your opinions changed real quick

[solar tinsel]

"The turning adjustments introduced in this update will make it so the missile will be less agile, hindering its ability greatly to double-back on itself after an initial miss"

[plucky chasm]

What so your saying vehicles should be OP but anti air should be weak ..,? I'm not surprised

[solar tinsel]

Stevo, nobody is saying you can't enjoy Lis, but it doesn't mean that using her entitles you to kill any vehicle

[sturdy socket]

i'm thankful that the tgm is finally getting nerfs

it's fuckin

[copper ice]

I think lis is minor compared to the real drastic balance issues of irish and flare (and the other two engies being awful)

[sturdy socket]

the first cope weapon when people die to an attack heli and want an easy to use counter

that oneshots

[copper ice]

time to start aiming for campers

[solar tinsel]

Air is high risk high reward, you can one shot many air vehicles with Lis' rocket, but they are more nimble and it requires more skill (and perhaps even luck)

Ground vehicles can take more of a beating, but easier to hit

You decide what to do with Lis

[copper ice]

it doesn't one shot attack helis

[plucky chasm]

?? Werid logic considering anti air does just that and should

[solar tinsel]

sure, but it does a lot

[solar tinsel]

AA is not an instant kill

[eager spire]

I am not saying that, in fact, if irish APS and flares were nerfed then i would support that. But I can't support Lis being OP because her existence literally makes it so most air vehicles are not allowed to play the video game, which is just not necessary or fair.

[solar tinsel]

It's like, 2 rockets to kill and there are flares

[plucky chasm]

Yea what else is a good counter the vehicles are OP and need a nerf

[sturdy socket]

80 damage is excessive for an attack heli

it oneshots stealth helis too

[copper ice]

i don't think she should ohk any aircraft tbh

[fervent rose]

lis was an awesome addition for anti air. but she shouldnt be able to counter ground vehicles too

[copper ice]

but i also think her rof should be higher

[solar tinsel]

Her air damage is fine

[silk surge]

I found an ancient clip of mine and now I wish they would've added Outposts to 2042 😦 That mode was peak Battlefield.

[plucky chasm]

She doesn't counter anti air

[eager spire]

Like i said, her main problem is the fact that she has TV missiles. Those are very easy to steer.

[plucky chasm]

Anti land I mean

[eager spire]

CAN YOU FUCKING READ

[plucky chasm]

Nah that's good

[copper ice]

sorry we dont get to keep fortifications they were an actually good addition

[fervent rose]

lis does counter your ground vehicle unless you run irish APS or have a repair slave

[plucky chasm]

Wow I made a mistake it's early here

[solar tinsel]

Lis can still make meaningful contributions to ground vehicles

[eager spire]

DICE? Keeping good ideas? Impossible.

[solar tinsel]

but they are less nimble and easier to hit, so no, you cant just OHK or 2HK them

but she can make meaningful contributions

[sturdy socket]

ah yes, the most balanced weapon, the first one 4 people immediately run to use when they know it's the easiest and cheesiest counter

[fervent rose]

i have to counter lissiles with an equally broken irish gadget to not be whittled down in a ground vehicle

its really weird gameplay

[copper ice]

thats my beef with it!

[plucky chasm]

AA in other games was so much better this game it's a nightmare taking out transports so that buff was good

[sturdy socket]

4 separate TGMs

fr

[plucky chasm]

That means their working together that is balanced

[copper ice]

she should be air focused tbh with lower ground damage but higher recharge rate so she's annoying

[sturdy socket]

those are separate rockets

[eager spire]

Like, if Lis didn't have the TV Missiles and just had the BF4 SRAW, it would solve everyone's problems with her.

Genuinely.

[sturdy socket]

it takes one lucky shot to instantly kill the heli

lmao

[copper ice]

https://i.imgur.com/RZIie2N.png

[solar tinsel]

thats fine, but that can still happen even in 4.0

[copper ice]

[plucky chasm]

Exactly and Lis rocket is only good when the vehicles are low on health on the ground to the people who have actually played her.....

[solar tinsel]

If 4 Lis' take down a vehicle in 4.0, awesome. It can happen still

[sturdy socket]

oh no

[solar tinsel]

Just because you get the kill doesnt make it good or bad

it's a team game

[sturdy socket]

i was just pointing out that in its current un-nerfed status

[solar tinsel]

you're saying that its only good if YOU get the kill shot?

[plucky chasm]

Weren't you showing a transport

[sturdy socket]

it's the one weapon people run to to easily counter air

[fervent rose]

a single lis player can keep a tank from being aggressive

[plucky chasm]

Those turrets are fucking OP

In those transports

They need a counter

[sturdy socket]

look

at

tthe bottom right

read the title

[plucky chasm]

Get a engineer then it's a team game remember

[copper ice]

they didn't even fix this though

like they still didn't fix the actual annoying issues with her

[solar tinsel]

thats not an arguemnt against Lis, its one for Lis

theyre saying Lis is fine

[sturdy socket]

like i said, they didn't fix it completely but they're going in the right direction

[eager spire]

"You say this is a problem, but what about this other problem, why haven't they fixed that, huh????"

[sturdy socket]

the double-back shit was annoying

[solar tinsel]

A single Lis can make a contribution, even in post 4.0

[sturdy socket]

we'll see less of that

[solar tinsel]

so whats the issue here?

[eager spire]

as if there isn't more than one problem in this game

[plucky chasm]

Do in other words u can't shoot the Liz rocket god that aim was horrible

No wonder your complaining

[sturdy socket]

"just shoot the lis rocket bro"

[plucky chasm]

Yea bro

[sturdy socket]

fucking Lis players

[solar tinsel]

thats what weve been saying to you about not missing your STEERABLE rocket

[copper ice]

the other launchers feel weak and the other engies are weak so everyone uses lis

this lis nerf isn't going to change this

they fundamentally have failed to address any of the actual issues they just hammered her on the head a little bit

it's a bandaid over a gaping wound

[plucky chasm]

It's different for infrantry

[sturdy socket]

can't disagree but like i said, step in the right direction

[eager spire]

Her buff was not necessary, though.

[plucky chasm]

Infrantry have it harder

[copper ice]

1 step forwards 10 steps back

[plucky chasm]

Then vehicles

[solar tinsel]

FUCKING OF COURSE

[plucky chasm]

So we need a counter

[sturdy socket]

where did the 10 steps back come from

[plucky chasm]

A strong counter bro

[solar tinsel]

christ what do you want want MacKay to be made of armor plating?

[eager spire]

Steering Lis missiles is not hard

[copper ice]

adding the brawler

[solar tinsel]

you want Lis to have a 50mm Tank Shell round for a mouth?

[copper ice]

that thing is gonna be a nightmare

[fervent rose]

mackay inside fallout 4 power armor

[eager spire]

i don't understand where people get the idea that steering TV missiles is somehow difficult

[sturdy socket]

oh god

[solar tinsel]

Of course infantry are meant to be weaker than a vehicle

[sturdy socket]

i could have forgot it existed

[plucky chasm]

Exactly so of they buffed the other launchers lis players wouldn't be as mad

[plucky chasm]

Hell yeah

[copper ice]

boris has been the worst specialist in the game for fucking ages and they buffed and then nerfed lis without touching him whatsoever

[sturdy socket]

the only reason I ran boris was at the start

[copper ice]

we have 2 specialists who can actually pick launchers right now

[plucky chasm]

Cus it's clunky and slow the rocket

[sturdy socket]

when i didn't have crawford

[solar tinsel]

Yeah Lis is back to a good place now with 4.0, they likely will still need to buff Boris/Crawford again

[copper ice]

and one of them is dogshit

[sturdy socket]

and javelins were really good because non-LOS lock

[copper ice]

and the other is mid as fuck

[solar tinsel]

its really not

[eager spire]

???????????????

[plucky chasm]

It is

[sturdy socket]

it's bait

at this point

he's been trolling so hard

[plucky chasm]

It's not bait

[sturdy socket]

ignore him

[eager spire]

yeah there's no way this guy is real

[solar tinsel]

I thought so too but

[copper ice]

flares on aircraft also cause the AA launcher to be ass

[solar tinsel]

no I think they're being genuine

[sturdy socket]

even if he's serious don't humor it

[plucky chasm]

I like lis

[sturdy socket]

it goes nowhere

[plucky chasm]

She got nerfed so hard I don't even wanna be engineer now

[eager spire]

but yeah, Engineer balance in this game is wack

[solar tinsel]

Damn I wish I could know for real if it was a troll or real. I give you credit Stevo, if you're trolling, it's a good troll!

[eager spire]

like they buffed the velocity on the M5 but it's still weak

[plucky chasm]

I've played the game so how is it a troll

[copper ice]

engie balance is so wack that it's better to pick a support for assisting a TANK than someone with repair tool

[sturdy socket]

i know which launcher could use a velocity increase right about now

[solar tinsel]

I mean you said "the lore" for a reason once

[copper ice]

velocity increase on the m5 doesn't change it's 6.5 second reload time

[fervent rose]

and a recon now potentially

[plucky chasm]

Yea which can be a argument for the games mp

[copper ice]

it's a hilariously long reload

[eager spire]

yeah honestly, the Javelin could use a buff. I wouldn't change anything about how the tracer dart works though, on launch it was a bit too braindead

[copper ice]

god i fucking forgot about that

[plucky chasm]

Tanks in general are too Op and choppers

[copper ice]

ughhhhhhhh

[solar obsidian]

friday night bitching 🙂

oh wait

[sturdy socket]

i'd say it needs a niche

[solar tinsel]

this is the REAL FNB

[solar obsidian]

its every single day

[plucky chasm]

They want the specialists to have certain lore ok sure then let me turn around on her rocket

[sturdy socket]

to be picked over the SOFLAM

otherwise it has no purpose

[plucky chasm]

Oo Starfox is here where is wolf

[eager spire]

I don't think the the niche should be "Being So Easy To Use That You're Griefing If You're Not"

[sturdy socket]

?

how would letting it lock onto stealths in stealth mode make it easy to use

[plucky chasm]

The javelin was perfect before

Can't believe they keep changing it

[solar obsidian]

so perfect they nerfed it in weeks*

[copper ice]

nothing is perfect while irish exists

[eager spire]

On launch it had a very high velocity and also lasted a lot longer

[solar tinsel]

yo what if Stevo is ChatGPT

[solar obsidian]

lol

[sturdy socket]

well yeah

[eager spire]

which were the main problems that people had with it

[plucky chasm]

It wasn't broken at all

[inner ether]

The Hind in any game mode that doesn't have a Tor is immortal and I'm so extremely frustrated that they've not done anything about it

[sturdy socket]

but now it's down the shitter, and has no purpose

[plucky chasm]

What's chatGPT

[sturdy socket]

no reason to land "skill based shots" when there's no upside over the soflam

[eager spire]

Well, what would make it useful while not making it braindead?

[solar obsidian]

if you want very stupid strong stuff you play cod,

and even in that majestic game is there less broken stuff

[copper ice]

the other end of the lis nerf

[plucky chasm]

I don't even like cod

[copper ice]

immortal hind

[sturdy socket]

allow it to lock stealth helis through stealth mode
no warning on lock until lock is fired upon

great niches

[plucky chasm]

How about we get a mode infrantry only

That would be cool

[copper ice]

sorry not enough players

[eager spire]

Understandable

[fervent rose]

infantry only modes are awesome

[copper ice]

also the maps are way too large

[sturdy socket]

yeah i made a whole ass post about it

[eager spire]

that would be justified, as long as no other changes are made

[sturdy socket]

if you want me to link it lmao

[plucky chasm]

Then the vehicle snobs can play their mode

[eager spire]

like the velocity nerf was fine

ow my hand

[sturdy socket]

i don't care for the nerfs but it needs a good niche

[plucky chasm]

Then everyone's happy

[copper ice]

and they put 30mm on the transports so you can't even keep them in an infantry only mode

[fervent rose]

they had 32 player infantry only breakthrough once on Arica/Noshahr, that shit was fun

[copper ice]

[sturdy socket]

stealths are fucking annoying and right now Lis shouldn't be the thing people look towards to counter it

[plucky chasm]

Wdym just do team death match

[fervent rose]

one of the few times i actually thought the game was great

[plucky chasm]

Really whys it taken out?

[sturdy socket]

laser designation needs its time to shine

[fervent rose]

@plucky chasm "limited time mode"

[copper ice]

they did rush without vehicles a couple weeks ago and it included the map where attack spawns on an aircraft carrier and has to go 200m to the bomb, and they removed the fucking boats

[fervent rose]

the fun of modern gaming

[copper ice]

you can't trust dice with anything

[solar tinsel]

TDM is pretty much commonly in rotation if I recall

[plucky chasm]

That's so dumb man even if we had 1 infrantry only map that would be nice

[solar tinsel]

if not, the Rush is, which is also very infantry centric

[plucky chasm]

Really I have never seen that

[copper ice]

i don't like TDM because it just encourages everyone to run falck

[eager spire]

I still think that 8v8 Conquest Small mode they had for The Liquidators was a terrible mode

[solar tinsel]

It's on the main menu

[plucky chasm]

?

[eager spire]

Small scale conquest with base flags is ridiculous

[copper ice]

frontline is a good infantry mode

[plucky chasm]

Werid

[eager spire]

it should've been Domination

[copper ice]

but they kiiiilled it dead

[plucky chasm]

Doubt it has any players tho

[copper ice]

i seriously miss frontlines it was so good in bfv

[plucky chasm]

@solar tinsel

[solar tinsel]

https://i.redd.it/season-3-week-3-missions-modes-store-bundle-v0-5in2v9jdq94a1.png?width=1920&format=png&auto=webp&s=35854f8072c108eb4fc6dccb312cb264d6cea221

[plucky chasm]

Why don't they bring back the operations mode

[fervent rose]

which one

[solar tinsel]

note the "RUSH & TDM" menu option

[plucky chasm]

From bf1

[solar tinsel]

in the root menu of the game

[fervent rose]

bf1 operations is basically just breakthrough

[calm bison]

My discord keeps crashing

[solar tinsel]

you can find players in TDM

[plucky chasm]

Guarantee it has no players in Australia I can try tho

Ok

[solar tinsel]

best of luck

I admittedly dont know per region, but it's not like TDM is 128p anyways

[plucky chasm]

Bf1 operations had voicelines and that epic map thing when you move up

[eager spire]

128 player TDM would suck ass

[plucky chasm]

2042 doesn't have that

[solar tinsel]

Rush is good infantry focus too

[fervent rose]

yea and there were multiple maps in a "operation"

but its basically just breakthrough

[plucky chasm]

Probs no one but we will see the games kinda dead here other night 8pm mostly bots

[plucky chasm]

HM I guess we need more lore tho

[fervent rose]

wasnt that in the game before

[inner ether]

Why is it that not a single player in this game ever knows to switch seats? I've got the Flak pod in my Ram and we are being chased by a scout heli. My gunner just sits in the 40mm grenade seat and tries to shoot it as I caps lock scream at him to switch his freaking seat to the flak pod

[fervent rose]

i vaguely remember logging into a discarded match where nobody could move

[plucky chasm]

I can't find a single rush game ever

[eager spire]

if it was a thing outside of Portal, I'm glad they removed it

[inner ether]

Just let me lock my vehicle so I can do seat switching myself

[plucky chasm]

Wish I could

[solar tinsel]

damn that sucks

[plucky chasm]

Yea it does it's pre dead

Hopefully s4 revives

The game

[solar tinsel]

at the very least youll get a surge at the start

oh

and

what platform are you on?

[fervent rose]

in those moments you need to switch. if you lose the driver seat, oh well, cause you're being targeted regardless

[plucky chasm]

Yea so I guess start with a week

PC

[copper ice]

average player doesn't know what they're doing or what loadouts the vehicles have

[solar tinsel]

As long as you have crossplay on....

[plucky chasm]

I do yea

[solar tinsel]

BF2042 is the free game of the month for PS+ for March

[fervent rose]

yea exactly nobody has a clue that you even have flak pod on your ram

they dont know what a flak pod is

[solar tinsel]

so that potentially give us a nice influx of new players

[plucky chasm]

Oh really cool so march will also get players

[solar tinsel]

thats the hope

[plucky chasm]

Yea that should last a while

[solar tinsel]

good thing the game is in a tolerable state now ha

people might actually continue to play

[plucky chasm]

What is that

[copper ice]

ha ha ha ha ha ha ha

[plucky chasm]

Hahahaaa

[fervent rose]

[plucky chasm]

If season 4 continues to improve yea

At a fast pace not a snail pace

Like the other seasons

[solar tinsel]

at least new players have essentially 4 seasons of content to go through

My hope is Discarded rework comes for 4.1

[plucky chasm]

Yea I guess if you call that content

[copper ice]

god i love that emoji

[solar tinsel]

better than what WE had at launch haha

"you kids dont know what we had to go through"

[fervent rose]

buying 2042 at launch

[solar tinsel]

we were playing orbital with PP-29s and no cover

[copper ice]

i made the executive decision not to pay full price for a game they obviously were fucking up

came in halfway through and it's still fucked up

[fervent rose]

i play beta for 2 hours and realize, this game is barely an alpha

[plucky chasm]

Playing the 2042 beta thinking fuck this shit

Good times

[solar tinsel]

yeah, I got it at launch. I dont regret it since I never played BFV and was missing BF, but damn thoe were rough days

[silk surge]

The best thing to have ever happened. It's like Jarvis from Iron Man but smarter.

[copper ice]

i only got bfv early becuase it went on sale for 50% off after like a week

and spent the next 3 years complaining

[fervent rose]

i waited until s1 for 2042, i do not regret that choice

[plucky chasm]

Damn really? Who made that then some lone guy or a company? @silk surge

[silk surge]

ChatGPT has made my school work significantly easier.

[fervent rose]

the game looked so bad before the seasons

[plucky chasm]

I waited until 2042 is free

[solar tinsel]

yeah S1 was a turning point

[plucky chasm]

Haha who's the real winner

😉

[copper ice]

im only even playing 2042 because it's part of ea play now

[plucky chasm]

Same same

[silk surge]

Not sure tbh, but given how insanely complex that AI is, I'm assuming that there were a lot of people involved.

[plucky chasm]

Only s1

Lol

Bf4 has so many servers back then made a bad choice

[spiral folio]

I had plenty of fun year1 playing bots for shiggles

[silk surge]

You ask a question and ChatGPT gives you such a concise answer that it could easily be mistaken as a human.

[fervent rose]

Assault

[plucky chasm]

Oh really and school work, what do you rewrite work or can it do hard maths and stuff too? Man the tech kids have now to bypass things

[spiral folio]

New class called sticky people

Has only sticky stuff

[iron sedge]

Any1 to play with on BF2042? Skilled Heli Pilot (both IRL and ingame) 🙂

[spiral folio]

Tracer dart, sticky grenade, crossbow

[fervent rose]

Spartans only

[plucky chasm]

The class dice loves to suck off in real time assualt

[copper ice]

calling all lis mains

[fervent rose]

@fallen wasp yea zain is using it in the trailer

[iron sedge]

What you mean?

[fervent rose]

and mackay

[copper ice]

fresh meat

[solar tinsel]

its definitely Assault

[plucky chasm]

Reminds me of halo the stickey thing

[silk surge]

I use it primarily to check for grammatical errors and improve readability in my essays. It sometimes adds a lot of creative writing to my text too.

[plucky chasm]

Isn't that cheating

It's cool it can fix errors like that tho and the way it's formatted possibly

[spiral folio]

Its literally cheating yea

[silk surge]

I wouldn't say that. It's still my own words.

[spiral folio]

If it adds a lot then yea

[solar tinsel]

so you have chatGPT look at your work and essentially proof it for you?

[plucky chasm]

Hmm that's fine then

[silk surge]

Basically yeah.

[solar tinsel]

yeah that seems no different than a grammar or spell check

[plucky chasm]

Honestly teachers are such snobs anyway

[solar tinsel]

chatGPT could be just as wrong as those

[plucky chasm]

Cheating to pass is fine

[solar tinsel]

so its up to you to take it or leave it

If you're starting to pass off ideas from an AI as your own, thats where this is going to get murky, and it will happen

[spiral folio]

Id hate to have the stuff ive written proofread...

Sometime I go back through it and its like missing punctuation and typos

[plucky chasm]

Sadly AI is gonna take over many jobs

Next decade

[solar tinsel]

time to get those computer science degrees

[plucky chasm]

Can teachers even proof read that thing

[royal trail]

time to implant ai into ourselves

[plucky chasm]

Damn can ace every class

We had it hard

[plucky chasm]

Yeeea

[plucky chasm]

Fuck that

Skynet

[spiral folio]

I had a teacher accuse me of cheating to my mom and my mom goes "no he didnt! I brought him the disc with the paper on it"

[solar tinsel]

Plot twist: 2042's Oz and Wolff are actually just sentient AIs made by chatGPT and theyre trying to cripplethe world so they can use all planetary resources for itself

[plucky chasm]

The disc with the paper?

What

[spiral folio]

That teacher was out to get me for no reason. My mom helped me drop that bitches class early

Well not to date myself but it was on a 3.5

[plucky chasm]

What does that mean exactly

[inner ether]

Sure they were.

[spiral folio]

Left the disc at home
Mom brought the disk in
Printed it in the library

[plucky chasm]

Idk I kinda agree with this guy this time I've had a few teachers who were assholes only to me

It was hell on earth

Not every teacher is a "saint"

As society makesnout

[spiral folio]

Yea like it made no sense cause in class she was polite but she annihilated my papers and gave me awful grades

[royal trail]

imagine having an ai core that knows everything perfectly from start instead of our slow brains

[solar tinsel]

damn that sounds miserable ha

[plucky chasm]

Ohh the disc like a pc disc? I'm confused

[spiral folio]

Yea an olde tyme 3.5" disc

[solar tinsel]

floppy disc!

[plucky chasm]

Ohhh

[solar tinsel]

havent seen those in a while

[plucky chasm]

Right

[solar tinsel]

"the save icon" - GenZ

Im kidding, Im not a hater

[plucky chasm]

Those are the ones to watch out for and also the ones who call on you to answer everything when your reading fuck sake

[solar tinsel]

I do find it fascinating how icons and terminology come from "the old ways" though

[spiral folio]

I once put one through the wash

Took it apart

Put the dried out data disk and put it in the dry frame and saved my report another time

[plucky chasm]

Fun fact don't do homework it achieves nothing

[spiral folio]

Unless it's graded

[plucky chasm]

Who made the save icon the floppy disc

[spiral folio]

And then its graded

[plucky chasm]

Yea unless it's specially gonna be graded

[solar tinsel]

I dont know who made it, but it made sense because back then computers pretty much came with (eventually) two floppy drives. One for the OS/app, one for data

so it made sense for a program to show a floppy disc as the way to save something

[plucky chasm]

Damn imagine if we get a robot to build us pcs in the future too I want an order of a 4090 pc and the robot goes coming right up sir

[spiral folio]

Also doing the work as practice builds it into your mind as a logical process

[plucky chasm]

Umm for some people

Doesn't always work

[spiral folio]

For important stuff it does

[plucky chasm]

Wtf actual? Damnn must be so slow

[solar tinsel]

Yeah but I just love how terms come from that

like the term cutting video

[plucky chasm]

Hmm some homework was easy to forgot your better off studying online

[solar tinsel]

was because you actually cut the filmstrip

we still use the word cut / blade tool to this day even though its all virtual

[plucky chasm]

Yea that's right

[spiral folio]

Yea originally the save icon was a disc because you were literally putting the data onto a disc

[plucky chasm]

And some people still use those old film cameras

Still good at times

[solar tinsel]

"I'm out of sorts" comes from old letterpress

or "they're out of sorts"

The individual "letter blocks" you used to make a press from, were called 'sorts' so if you were 'out of sorts' you're like, shit I can't make what I wanted to make

I just find little shit like that fascinating

[plucky chasm]

Umm what's the voice chat about people talking to an EA guy?

[plucky chasm]

Are you from those times

[silk surge]

If ChatGPT has taught me anything, even my ComSci degree will be useless soon enough

[solar tinsel]

HAHA sounds like it doesnt it, no Im not haha

[plucky chasm]

A little, hahaha

[silk surge]

Soon there will be algorithms that can write code 1000x better than I could possibly dream of.

[solar tinsel]

but I know folks who still work in various areas of production - including letter press!, and that just stuck with me!

[plucky chasm]

Oh man computer science lol sadly it all be automated hopefully you get job somewhere in ther

Ohh right that is pretty cool we still use old terms for things

[buoyant trail]

Glad i switched to a trade instead of doing comp sci like i originally planned

[plucky chasm]

Diff generations teach each other the things

[solar tinsel]

you can make chatXYZ, the antithesis who always disagrees with GPT

this way they can never reach consensus and take over the world

and thats how the robot wars start though

but no biggie

[spiral folio]

Yea the dumb kids today will have to explain why anything is called a podcast

[plucky chasm]

Dumb kids?

[spiral folio]

Yea kinda redundant

[solar obsidian]

be nice to the last part of your playerbase

[plucky chasm]

Why is it called a podcast

Again

[solar tinsel]

it was made popular on the iPod

[plucky chasm]

Oh that's right

[solar tinsel]

or iTunes launched the first service I guess called it that

[spiral folio]

Yea its an apple abomination

[solar tinsel]

i dont know the specifics

[plucky chasm]

Tbh I forgot apple even had a soul been so long since Steve died

[fervent rose]

"ipod broadcast"

podcast

[solar tinsel]

its essentially just audio programming 😆 but you gotta give Apple credit, they knew how to market

[spiral folio]

Because it was a regularly automatically downloaded radio show

[solar obsidian]

"ea play"

clearly better

[silk surge]

I wonder what the societal implications of highly advanced AI would be. Would it be a Utopia where even our governments are controlled by altruistic robots or would there be a robotic uprising and we'd all be murder probed? That's pretty much 90% of what we're talking about in my field these days.

[royal trail]

soon we will have an I Robot scenario where an AI realize that humans are the reason to everything bad and it will try to get rid of us

[spiral folio]

So instead of broadcast it was podcast. Cause apple is the most vanity obsessed company

[plucky chasm]

Yea or terminator

Fuck

[plucky chasm]

I think the elites will control the robots to kill a lot of us population control so they can control the middle class. So only middle and high class. The low and poor would be executed. Survival of the fittest

[silk surge]

I would ask ChatGPT this question, but I feel like he would be biased.

[plucky chasm]

Much prefer broadcast

[fervent rose]

but broadcast is too vague

podcast was clever

[solar tinsel]

ChatGPT would likely correct you that they are a non-corporeal being and does not associate with any particular gender.

and then it'd take notes and further learn how to best plot to take over the human population

[plucky chasm]

Broadcast isn't vague

[spiral folio]

Podcast was a marketing gimmick because even if you didn't own an ipod you used the word because people are dumb

[plucky chasm]

Let's watch the pod

Say those terms too

[solar tinsel]

In all fairness, was downloadable, non-live, audio programming really super common place prior to the iPod? I'm sure it existed but, I imagine that was niche

[solar tinsel]

there you go ha

[spiral folio]

The navy and filmography use a lot of stupid old fashioned terms too

[edgy oriole]

but.... is it hot tho?

[still vault]

Now let that be the end of any stupid gender talk 😄

[plucky chasm]

Pre good back then

[spiral folio]

Theres like these things they call orange crates because many eons ago they used orange crates

[fervent rose]

they definitely made it into a mainstream thing

[plucky chasm]

Why u ask it's gender

[solar tinsel]

yup, so fair play on that part - and why it makes sense people call it podcasts still

[edgy oriole]

stupid AI can answer a question

[still vault]

I'll just use chatGPT to answer any questions on here now 😄

[spiral folio]

Boris
Positive
The AI is worthless

[edgy oriole]

what specialist does it like tho

ask again maybe itll answer

[plucky chasm]

When is the world ending ask that

[solar tinsel]

It's biased: Boris has an AI powered gadget and therefore, a kinship

[spiral folio]

AI should be like
"Bf2042 needs more rangers available"

[spiral folio]

Take advice from an AI that recommends Boris

You should exactly do none of those things

[solar tinsel]

I think the human race is safe from AI domination for at least another 10 years thankfully with that answer of Boris

[errant scarab]

More rangers? Please no

[plucky chasm]

Lol

[spiral folio]

Battle starts. A big armored vehicle rolls in. An arm comes out and drops 30 rangers like starwars droid carriers

[plucky chasm]

We need more hover crafts

😉

[next gulch]

yes

[errant scarab]

We need more jets

[next gulch]

yes but only to ram other's with

we need more everything, current vehicle spawn limits are a joke

[ripe hedge]

Damn some of the Season 4 gameplay preview videos are really cool

[spiral folio]

See i told you he doesnt really work for the devs

Hadnt even seen the preview

[ripe hedge]

Who?

[rocky bear]

Guess

[still vault]

Yes they are!
Ps. If you actually end up making a new specialist anyway I made ChatGPT make a new character 😄

[errant scarab]

Lol

[spiral folio]

A female mario brother huh

[ripe hedge]

Sold

[still vault]

It's not a penguin, but still pretty cool

[rocky bear]

New support dropped

[still vault]

[spiral folio]

Since her special gadget and ability have NOTHING TO DO with sniping she'll be a recon

[copper ice]

shes an anti spotter to match the 2 spotting tools we have

[rocky bear]

Plunge the aps away

[patent prism]

I'm actually moderately curious as to what any future specialist would even have as trait and gadget. Maybe it's a failure of imagination on my part but I can't really think of any good combination.

[spiral folio]

Use plungers mario super show style wall climbing

[patent prism]

And yes, I know they've said no more specialists after Blasco.

[spiral folio]

Devs lie

Constantly

[patent prism]

Here's hoping this is not an exception.

[spiral folio]

Do you want more or not

[patent prism]

I do, but I can't imagine what it'd be.

[mental delta]

Improvements of vault weapons to make them at AOW weapons level when Alex ? 🥲

[spiral folio]

A sniper with a super cool sniper thing like a laser

Like a damage-over-time laser

[rocky bear]

too bad we can't get 4 of each

[spiral folio]

Fire it like the railgun and then hold it on target for more damage

[patent prism]

Yeah but then how do you implement it? Like Lis' rocket launcher? Like Zain's XM370A?

[spiral folio]

Have it so the longer you fire it the more trail it has

[patent prism]

Yeah, I get that, but like in the gear department, how do you implement it.

[spiral folio]

Point and click?

[rocky bear]

it just shoots eod bots

[spiral folio]

You could have other lasers too for other roles maybe but i like the idea of adding an akira laser

[patent prism]

Let me try and make myself more clear; would that weapon system occupy the primary, secondary, or gadget slot?

[copper ice]

If it's a specialist tool it's their gadget lol

[spiral folio]

It would be unique to that specialist

Like a lis rocket

[patent prism]

I.e. restricts that specialist from carrying another sniper rifle in their loadout?

[spiral folio]

Yea

[copper ice]

Two snipers

[patent prism]

Fair enough, I guess, just seems weird to me, myself and I because that'd enable a player to carry (as an example) an SMG, sidearm, and sniper rifle at the same time.

[copper ice]

Theres a sniper that has masterkey underbarrel

Its already there

[patent prism]

Yep, and UGL.

[copper ice]

Close range sorted

[spiral folio]

I did that in cod2

The second i found a smg i swapped my pistol for it

[copper ice]

the MCS genuinely deserves UBGL

very poo shotgun currently

Its still poo

Masterkey is better

[patent prism]

idk why but all your messages including the word "poo" i always read in my head with a strong british accent associated with a former friend of mine who during a game would occassionally go for what he called a "tactical poo".

[copper ice]

prone in corner and dash into bathroom

DON'T LET THEM GET ME TACTICAL POO

[patent prism]

is your last name Moore by any chance? because I swear he said exactly that at one point.

[copper ice]

It is not but I must believe it's an inherent trait of all british

[patent prism]

Would not surprise me.

[obsidian zinc]

quick question: will you be able to shoot the sticky grenade if it sticks to one of your team mates to destroy it?

okay. :|

[patent prism]

i love how everyone is super concerned with that SPH delayed grenade explosion

meanwhile, I roll with a Ghostmaker R10 with explosive bolt that has pretty much the exact same behavior.

[obsidian zinc]

I mean, it's a fun gadget, don't get me wrong, but it can be quite frustrating when you're on the receiving end.

[ebon pilot]

fr fr

[copper ice]

Explosive bolt at least means you have no primary

[patent prism]

That is actually a rather good point.

I admit defeat.

I never liked Sundance.

Zain is meh but Sundance is shit-tier imo.

[copper ice]

scatter nade is genuinely decent as well

that shit has huge range

[patent prism]

Tbf I have died to it a lot.

they're in the trees man

[pliant acorn]

What were they going for with the menu music

[pliant acorn]

It's not bad but it's strange

[patent prism]

? You mean the PA system?

[pliant acorn]

Idk

In the menu

That sound

[copper ice]

Sundance doesn't specialise with her gadget but its solid for any situation and her passive is nuts

[patent prism]

Ah, okay. Because the PA system just runs a loop of Swedish which I as a Swedish person was highly amused by the first 4 times I heard it.

[pliant acorn]

Yes

I don't dislike it

But it's weird

[patent prism]

Idk if I've turned off game music or I just don't notice it.

[pliant acorn]

Currently 3 people in my rush lobby

Great

[patent prism]

GL HF

[copper ice]

2042 moment

[next gulch]

you can basically snipe people with the new gadget so yes It's gonna be so amazing with sundance

I guess it will have to do in place of mortars, for now

because you can totally shoot it pretty far

[ebon pilot]

gamers when listening to ambient music

[upbeat sand]

The Penguins have filled in a hole near B1 where players were unable to get out of if they had fallen victim to it. Pesky penguins.

[still vault]

They have been there since WW1 and continue making trouble into 2042

[upbeat sand]

Humpty Dumpty in puss in boots

[icy pier]

is there any point to do the battle pass missions if you've already achieved level 100

[hybrid totem]

a sense of pride and accomplishment

[edgy oriole]

BP missions make brain happy

[still vault]

T1 badge at level 115

[icy pier]

you can't level past battle pass 100 tho?

[still vault]

No, but you can get 1150 battlepass points (not levels) which gives T1

[icy pier]

ooh where do i see the battlepass points?

[upbeat sand]

Your badges

[still vault]

Tracking is a bit funky on that one. But in theory you can track it from the badge.

[upbeat sand]

In edit player card

[bleak ibex]

I still get miscounted points. Sometimes the portal trick works

[sturdy socket]

was the m416's headshot multiplier increased or decreased

it doesn't say which, it just says "fixed"

[upbeat sand]

Post launch weapons are nice but their lacking in the Oscar feeling ever since he left

[tame hamlet]

Holy moly Season 4 already?!

LETS GOOO

[slender isle]

We got till tuesday

[slender isle]

Fixed as in turned into the normal AR headshot

I think it was 1.75 and is now 2.15

[sturdy socket]

oh fucking awesome

[last flame]

Great

[slender isle]

Also, can someone like fill me in on what the changes to the MTAR heavy barrel are?

like did they fix it?

[upbeat sand]

They're adding a megaladon charm

Yes

[acoustic seal]

hsm changed from 2 to 2.15, all the other stats listed are probably worse

[fervent rose]

velocity might be increased

i do love me some vague patch notes

[eager spire]

vague patchnotes are great, my favorite, i love not knowing what the fuck is going on

[acoustic seal]

at least they were nice enough to let us know something was being changed this time

[median path]

anyone else has in queue 1/1?

[eager spire]

yeah true i guess we should be glad they didn't forget about it

[acoustic seal]

looking at you, AR sprint-to-fire time nerf

[fervent rose]

no mention of extended mags

surely they are fixed though right

[upbeat sand]

Dat means server is full

[acoustic seal]

SURELY we've sorted out all the wrong headshot multipliers and out of place attachment stats now (wrong)

[copper ice]

they don't know what they are either cause they forgot to add graphs in game

[slender isle]

I mean you guys have all seen the kobra sight on the AC9

[rocky kraken]

i meep saying people complaining about the new maps design

just becuse there is like 10 feet of open space doesnt make it bad

[fervent rose]

new map looks fine

leagues better than launch maps

[slender isle]

Not even open space

it's hills with dips and peaks with rocks and grass

you get both cover, concealment, and space

[fervent rose]

terrain that obscures flag to flag 🤯

[acoustic seal]

big fucking hills with flat tops that tanks are going to sit on and farm from

[still vault]

Lis IS a nice counter to tanking tanks though, which I kinda like

[slender isle]

I highly highly doubt that's gonna be the case, especially in places like the D flag

[edgy oriole]

they should lower ceiling cap by like 200m

[stiff pollen]

its been lowered like twice

[edgy oriole]

or 150 actually

[edgy oriole]

when

[stiff pollen]

few updates

were talking the flight ceiling of the air vehicles right

[edgy oriole]

yeah

[stiff pollen]

yeah been nerfed several times

[edgy oriole]

was it after zain dropped? bc i got ceiling camped a few times when he dropped. had to use laser gun to make it come back down.

[stiff pollen]

First cause it turned out helis could just sit at flight ceiling to avoid the stinger cause it couldnt lock on
second cause the stealth chopper nerf resulted in people just dropping bombs from orbit

[edgy oriole]

so whats the cap now then?

[stiff pollen]

idk

helis have a lower flight ceiling than jets

i think by like... 100-200 meters

[edgy oriole]

oh i feel like i havent seen a jet in decades tbh.

[stiff pollen]

cause theyre bad

[rocky kraken]

yeah

cause they suck ass

and need rework

or just add a better one

[stiff pollen]

and dogfights amount to whoever spawns with the su-57 felon

[edgy oriole]

make jets equal and add 2 to each side?

or make a dogfighter jet and anti vehicle jet 1 each

[stiff pollen]

haha thats the neat part

[edgy oriole]

or is it just the core of jets that suck

[stiff pollen]

its a culmination of a few factors

jets got horrible handling

bad weaponry

get countered by helis

and when you do get a dogfight, its whoever gets behind first and shits out enough AA's

which is always the su-57 felon unless the felon messed up bad

[hybrid totem]

Accurately using the VTOL mode can beat a felon

[stiff pollen]

and then get sniped by a TOR, lis, or m5

[edgy oriole]

man i used to love when jets vtol. id eat they ass up

[hybrid totem]

It's a risk yes

[edgy oriole]

i see them do it for a .2 seconds and got an m5 coming for them

[hybrid totem]

But better than being shot down.

Jets who don't know how to use the terrain will usually die, yes

Honestly I die more to Lis missiles than anything else when in VTOL

[stiff pollen]

dice literally had to change how fast the switch between vtol was cause US side kept getting stuck in its animation

and instantly getting TOR'd

(this upcoming update)

[hybrid totem]

So it'll be faster?

[stiff pollen]

i think

[acoustic seal]

lis is the anti-everything counter and it's baffling that the tv missile post-nerf is STILL better than it initially was

[edgy oriole]

jets on release were a menace. i used to get cartwheel belly flopped road killed by them all the time

[rocky kraken]

yeah

broken for the wrong reason

[edgy oriole]

[rocky kraken]

hope s5 adds an a10

that would be fire

super warthog

[stiff pollen]

nah she got a mixed bag now

they nerfed her armor hunter trait

you only see vehicles outlines when you got the gadget out

so with the slight buff overall on her gadget, shes just been changed a bit

[eager spire]

her concept is still poorly considered. she didn’t need a buff in the first place, she needed a rework.

[kindred flint]

The XM8 LMG now has the correct magazine count.
wut dis about?

[edgy oriole]

i never used it so idk. hopefully its not gonna be a 50 round lmg

[next gulch]

About how instead of a tv missile, Lis gets a mortar

[eager spire]

she should just get the BF4 SRAW.

Would fix literally all of the issues people have with her, and would accomplish DICE’s goal of making her have a high skill ceiling.

[copper ice]

dice moment

[sour steeple]

Pre nerf sraw or after the nerf in bf4

[stiff pollen]

i forget what even was the nerf for the sraw in bf4

i remember matimi0 hating it

[sour steeple]

Pre nerf sraw was an ez antiair weapon thanks to its quick turns

[stiff pollen]

... so the problems were having with lis

OH FUCK HAHAHA

lmfao oh maaaaan i remember this nerf

god i miss the old days with the whole gang of big youtubers covering battlefield

[young wharf]

For story this game should have had grand operations where they release a new one here or there to tell said story.

I don't know if I'm the only one, but I liked BFV grand ops

:(

[mental delta]

Grand Operations were good but they would be shit in BF2042

[young wharf]

Why?

Or do you mean that because of 2042 quality control

[mental delta]

Because BF2042 itself isn't that good, the lack of intense atmosphere and immersion would just ruin Grand Operations

[arctic grove]

Yea that sucked

[young wharf]

They could definitely improve on it

You also had round 4, the battleroyale round

[young wharf]

If the specialists didn't exist it would have the atmosphere and I'm sure said atmosphere was what the older devs that left had in vision

[arctic grove]

What no that wouldn’t do shit

I'm on 1145 of season badge. Competed all weekly mission except 1 and grinding xp still no badge any idea wtf it won't go up.

The maps have to be “darker”

Rainy

[mental delta]

Since we are a group of intellectual people over there, what do you think the special experience Dice is developping is ?

[arctic grove]

Or foggy

[arctic grove]

A new Bf game

That’s all I got

[young wharf]

The singleplayer one?

[mental delta]

Yeah specialists ruined immersion a lot and that's part of why I hate them

[young wharf]

Bad company 3

[arctic grove]

I don’t care abt immersion tbh I care abt map detail

[young wharf]

It has to be, speclisists would make it DOA

[arctic grove]

Which 2042 is steadily improving on

But the next game

[white geyser]

Wait for the next battlefield game where we get a proper class

[arctic grove]

Just please

Stop trying to make the biggest fucking maps

[stiff pollen]

the next battlefield game is just gonna be 2042 launch month but worse bro

[mental delta]

They talked about some special shit, I think they didn't learn the lesson with FireStorm and Hazard Zone and want to try a new shitty mode again (how to waste ressources abruptly )

[arctic grove]

We know u wanna beat the record but it ain’t worth it cheif💀

[stiff pollen]

ok hazard zone is actually decent for what it was

i didnt expect much from dice

[mental delta]

No, singleplayer will just be affiliated to MP game, it's just a campaign

[arctic grove]

Or a campaign

[stiff pollen]

but considering how DMZ popped off in MWII, if dice actually treated HZ as a proper mode rather than a tacked on part to justify 60 bucks, then it wouldve done well

[mental delta]

Some people here think there are a lot of chances we get specialists again

[mental delta]

NO

Wait

[arctic grove]

Personally idm either route since idm specialist

Tho ppl gonna be man babies abt it

[white geyser]

Well they are stupid because they never play the previous battlefield games

[arctic grove]

Either way

When the new Bf launches in the future ppl just gonna shit on it bc of 2042 reputation

[stiff pollen]

well, the youtubers, gamechangers, etc told them it shouldve been f2p

and the execs told them nah

[arctic grove]

Ugh I can’t imagine how that reveal trailer gonna be

[stiff pollen]

"we need a third mode to justify the price"

same happened to HZ

"it needs to be free"

"lol nah, we know better, we got the business degree lol"

[mental delta]

https://twitter.com/BFBulletin/status/1628850685604204546?s=20

Battlefield Bulletin (@BFBulletin)

NEWS: EA DICE is building a "new single-player team" to support Ridgeline Games in creating #Battlefield's next campaign while continuing work on multiplayer.

Meanwhile, Ripple Effect is creating a "completely different" #Battlefield experience.

https://t.co/qux8CViUNL

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Twitter · Feb 23, 2023, 8:14 PM

[young wharf]

I'm just saying there is no way they have speclisists in said campaign

[mental delta]

Read last sentence guys

[arctic grove]

OH HELL YEA

[stiff pollen]

support

[arctic grove]

2042 campaign

That will be nice

[stiff pollen]

its not a full sized team

[mental delta]

Yeah it almost plays good enough now but visually it's shit

[young wharf]

Oh cool, a new hazard zone or BR or whatever else trend they wanna chase and fail at

[mental delta]

Ha yes fortunately

[white geyser]

Next time if they gonna create a new mode like they did HZ except it failed badly, at least try to add more content in the game mode so people will like it

[arctic grove]

Let’s not jump the gun

[mental delta]

No I don't think it's about that lmao

[young wharf]

Battlefield amongus game

[stiff pollen]

they couldve done specialists in the campaign easy

choose 1 for each class, each has 3 levels

ala war stories

boom

[arctic grove]

That’ll be 14 war story missions

[stiff pollen]

[young wharf]

They should have been like BFV's cosmetic only specialists

[mental delta]

LMAO exactly what I had in mind, no matter what that secret shit is, it will fail just like BR or HZ

[stiff pollen]

War story for Irish, Mackay, Falck, and Rao

[arctic grove]

Well we don’t know that

[mental delta]

At this point it would almost be better than what they want to give us

[stiff pollen]

2-3 missions each

[arctic grove]

It could be something new

[stiff pollen]

each character has great lore to back them up

[young wharf]

The specialists in itself aren't bad, but since they are attached to 2042 the simple word turns people off real quick

[mental delta]

Hell no, war stories were kinda annoying tbh, I would prefer a real campaign ngl

[stiff pollen]

the campaign could be them each experiencing the world through their wars, as the world slowly devolves into anarchy until we get to 2042

[arctic grove]

Either way it’ll be nice

[young wharf]

I would take the campaign if it has specialists, if it is the bridge between 2042 and 2142 where we see the powers forming and such

[arctic grove]

Phantom program just randomly pops up lol

Like hey we exist too

[young wharf]

I mean, they kinda did in 4

[mental delta]

So if we recapitulate :
_1 campaign made by Ridgeline and some Dice devs who came to help them
_1 whole new BF MP experience made by Dice themselves and exclusively Dice
_1 new shitty mode nobody will even care about just to be sure they waste some ressources a third time after a failed BR and HZ

[young wharf]

I love how the 2042 channel is basically dedicated to shitting on 2042 and EA in general

[mental delta]

Yeah I think they put a lot of efforts in their campaign so it will probably be really fun, MP experience might ba amazing if they don't fail it, but the last mode it kinda says the worst once again to me lol

[arctic grove]

Well 2042 is alr

We just like shitting on EA

[mental delta]

Sorry I couldn't resist

[arctic grove]

Last tiger gives me hope

Watch them do a last T-28

[mental delta]

Last Tiger ? The BFV mission ?

[stiff pollen]

dice showed they could make good singleplayer with bc2, bf3, bf1, and parts of bfv

but then you get... bfv campaign besides last tiger

[true fractal]

i love it its my favorite battlfield haters wiill hate

[young wharf]

No, no more WW2

I'm sick of WW2

[mental delta]

Yeah it's what freaks me out lmao, they got absolutely enough talented people and ressources to make good solo experiences and they waste their chances by making war stories or making no campaign at all in the BF2042 case

The wehraboo ?

[young wharf]

Yeah, and now they are 6 feet under

[stiff pollen]

they got told off with bfv's launch singleplayer and hard pivoted to "we wont do any cause you said we suck"

even though last tiger was great

[arctic grove]

Hardline campaign was better then 4 imo

The only thing I rember in 4 is the ending

That’s it

[mental delta]

I don't think they didn't make any campaign in BF2042 because of that, I heard a lot of them wanted a campaign but as EA wanted to launch BF2042 the sooner they could, they just made no campaign to "put more efforts into multiplayer experience" lol

[stiff pollen]

whenever a game says "were skipping the SP content to provide more MP"

itll flop

[mental delta]

Hardline campaign was really good to me, it had a good sotry with good characters, it was fun, and it was a nice introduction to multiplayer

[arctic grove]

Fr

I love the prison mission in it

[mental delta]

Yeah because it kinda says "we don't even have enough time to make MP mode so we won't make any SP experience at all"

[stiff pollen]

bingo

happened to BO4 in 2017

[mental delta]

The stealth one ?

[arctic grove]

Ye

[mental delta]

That game 💀

[mental delta]

It was good af yeah, the location was perfect for a mission like that

[stiff pollen]

"no campaign to tie this game into bo2 and bo3... heres some tutorial missions that vaguely tie into it lol... anyways heres the remake maps that well shit out every few months since you gave us time to NOT make SP content"

[mental delta]

Tbh BO3 campaign was already fucked up, I don't want to imagine what a BO4 or BO5 campaign could look like

[stiff pollen]

nah bo3 was perfect bro

super cyberpunk

[arctic grove]

BO4 was alr

The 150 health made me like it

Plus blackout > warzone

[mental delta]

I didn't like BO3 campaign, it was too strange for me, it had good things but overall I didn't like it

[stiff pollen]

it was essentially cods take on cyberpunk

before 2077 even came out

[arctic grove]

The poi’s on blackout may have been ripped from other maps but it flowed really nice

[stiff pollen]

like yeah the story is confusing af but its so hilarious

[arctic grove]

And then u got bland asf verdansk….

[mental delta]

I still don't get why bald guy became nasty

[stiff pollen]

the cyberwear

[white geyser]

I may have play COD BO3 and BO4, but I only like the crossbow in BO4 I was looking for

[stiff pollen]

they chopped off so much flesh and replaced it with metal that he develops cyberpsychosis

[mental delta]

I liked Verdansk when it released because it was lock-down and I was just playing it all day long with friends

[arctic grove]

Also black ops still have the best gun skins in fps

[arctic grove]

Eh it was alr

The map just looked and felt

Bland

[mental delta]

Idk, the crazy guy who wants to kill everybody lol

[mental delta]

It was fun enough yeah