battlefield-2042

[arctic grove]

then there’s

….kaleidoscope

[inner nacelle]

yeh the launch maps were so bad, and imo early reworked maps still are pretty meh

[copper ice]

i hate reworked breakaway

[tough folio]

So the season 5 bf4 map is golmud railway remastered?

[arctic grove]

Kaleidoscope I don’t necessarily mind but I like Shanghai and dawnbreaker as fully urban maps personally

[pine roost]

The detail of 2042 in terms of its lighting, shaders, textures and especially particle effects all look rather nice

[young wharf]

Orbital is the only map I like because rocket

[pine roost]

The season 5 map isn’t a remaster

[arctic grove]

It boom

[arctic grove]

Orbital is dope

[eager spire]

literally fall like, 3 inches off a parachute in 2042 and your character fucking falls flat on their face and has to get back up before you can shoot your gun

[bleak ibex]

The concept art looked nice

[latent widget]

so we getting golmud?

[tough folio]

ah its a bf4 inspired map, so its still golmud railway lol

[latent widget]

railway?

[pine roost]

‘A ProfFeSsIonaL SolIder wOuLdnT TrIP liKe thAt’

[inner nacelle]

i dunno, if i go back and play BFV, BF1 or just watch a video 2042 falls apart compared, maybe not graphically as much but the details the previous titles had... man.

[latent widget]

zavod

[tough folio]

they showed concept art and a description of what literally sounds like golmud railway in the new deep dive

[arctic grove]

It’s a lot of little details and stuff 2042 left out you mean?

[inner nacelle]

yeh

[arctic grove]

I hear ya

[bleak ibex]

What you don't like tripping over your own shells?

[tough folio]

i was half expecting for it to be overgrown shanghai, but it wouldnt make sense for us to be in china

[inner nacelle]

just go and have a sprint in a BFV or 1, than go back to 2042... and you want to cry.

[arctic grove]

I’m pretty sure u trip on slanted rocks

[pine roost]

Mostly due to the sheer scale, there’s less of an opportunity for finer detail

[eager spire]

even if they would, it doesn't make the mechanic's inclusion in the game justified or any fun at all

[arctic grove]

New breakaway on rush or rush xl is a disaster

[pine roost]

It’s not at all, it’s stupid

[latent widget]

looks like discarded is going to be a lot better

[arctic grove]

Literally have not taken final sector once

[arctic grove]

Noted

[latent widget]

noted notepad

your brain is a macbook

[copper ice]

128p means less details

fundamentally poor design decision

[tough folio]

shit, i aint even get past the first on xl, i was the only one smoking

[arctic grove]

128 is fun for gameplay but it’s cons attached are unfortunate

[latent widget]

if this game gets 8 seasons

i think i will be satisfied

[pine roost]

Depends what they do in those seasons

[arctic grove]

Like 128 I personally don’t enjoy only on like, hourglass and discarded

I haven’t played 128 breakaway to judge it

[inner nacelle]

proly more maps and weapons and portal stuff, not much else to add

[arctic grove]

Well good thing their getting fixed

[inner nacelle]

beside squad managment

[arctic grove]

Indeed

[tough folio]

discarded rework looks to be way better

[arctic grove]

Hourglass

[latent widget]

I rather take 64 player, better map design, higher graphical fidelity and more physics.

[arctic grove]

Imo is gonna be bigger then breakaways rework

Also since there’s some speculation that the hourglass rework includes some metro stuff

doubt

Something big is gonna happen with hourglass it seems

[latent widget]

They need to move the stadium closer.

[arctic grove]

I mean I wouldn’t advise against it it’s just

[tough folio]

the breakaway rework was actually good, it feels like they actually did something instead of switch flags around and adding stuff like kalidoscope or manifest

[arctic grove]

Hourglass is a large map so I doubt they’d put anything super big there in the ground

[latent widget]

The stadium should be in the middle of the map honestly.

[arctic grove]

Well how else are they adding a underground to it

[latent widget]

;/

[arctic grove]

A long tunnel trench?

[eager spire]

yeah but more players in a server and larger maps are more marketable

[arctic grove]

Honestly true that

[pine roost]

The only part I don’t really like after playing it for a while is being in that giant crevice where people can just gaze at you from above

[arctic grove]

It’s hard to imagine any big underground battles but who am I kidding, depends on how they build the new layouts n stuff

[eager spire]

"WE HAVE USED ADVANCED TECHNOLOGY TO STUFF AS MANY PLAYERS INTO A SERVER AS POSSIBLE, AND WE HAVE ALSO USED THAT SAME TECHNOLOGY TO MAKE FLAT LANDSCAPES YOU CAN RUN ACROSS"

[pine roost]

It doesn’t really isolate combat into two levels, just sort of makes the people below constantly exposed

[arctic grove]

Unless the underground is for the whole satellite being buried in the sand

[latent widget]

2042 map design is so archaic.

[eager spire]

"oh what do you mean you want cover, you don't like flat landscapes? uggggh fine give us several months"

[arctic grove]

Renewal is still the worst map

Atleast the desert side better

I like that side more

[arctic grove]

Manifest rework imo favors 64p the most

[arctic grove]

Atleast there not lazy like cod lately

Jeasus all good maps are just old maps in those games at this point

[latent widget]

What happened to all those dev tools, that allowed them to make maps easy? Remember that battlefront 1 photogammetry conference on youtube? they could literally place geometry like legos on a maps and use a tool brush to soften the geometry.

[tough folio]

You’ll set foot on a forgotten battleground where armies clashed decades ago while trying to secure a vital train track being used for the transportation of armaments.

Tell me its not golmud lmao. its def golmud railway inspired

[eager spire]

ugggh, golmud railway was ass in BF4

[arctic grove]

New dev team wasn’t used to the engine

Orbital is a well balanced and perfect size map for 128

[pine roost]

Nobody is saying it’s not golmud inspired, just that it isn’t a 1:1

[arctic grove]

enjoy

And the fact the vets just bounced

[pine roost]

Honestly there are like 3 potential options that have been brought up as to what it’s inspired by

[tough folio]

yeh golmud was mid but the concept art they showed looked way better

[arctic grove]

Goldmun, Zavod, Krelia, Its gonna be one of these maps

[tough folio]

yeti easteregg return?

[eager spire]

of course the concept art looks good, it's concept art

[pine roost]

You could have said golmid there. I’m disappointed

[arctic grove]

Golmid

[eager spire]

golmid, that's good

[arctic grove]

I still don’t know why my friends lm forced me to play that shitty map

I hated that

I hated Shanghai

[inner nacelle]

one thing im gonna say is that Portal as a concept is absolutely amazing. If i could play all fan favorite maps from previous titles in new BF game thats a massive win right there.
Even now its always nice to play Caspian Border in 2042

[eager spire]

are they still your friends

[arctic grove]

I just did not fuck with the bf4 maps

My poor and neglected golmud….

[arctic grove]

Yes

[tough folio]

i swear people only play bf4 for locker

[eager spire]

have you considered ever not making them your friends

[arctic grove]

I got over it if ur curious

[eager spire]

to be fair BF4's infantry gameplay is very fun. It's not their fault that there are no good infantry maps in BF4.

[latent widget]

Gollum Railway: "Yes precious take ring over proper Dice devsis, the one ring to rule the Battlefield, one ring to destroy the mind and Battlefield's integrity."

[arctic grove]

The only bf4 map I liked was parcel storm and dawn breaker

[eager spire]

I hate Paracel Storm.

[arctic grove]

I hated the other “launch” maps

Locker was annoying asf bc EVERYONE even their mama used the aek

[latent widget]

This game is literally a stress test and data collector for the new engine iteration and the real game in 2024.

[arctic grove]

Like fuck

[tough folio]

el alamien is without a doubt the worst map playable in 2042

[arctic grove]

This

[eager spire]

I would've liked for them to port the BF3 Close Quarters DLC maps to BF4, but nooo

they ported over fucking Caspian Border and Operation Firestorm instead. >:(

[inner nacelle]

yeh, its just way too old design of a map to work in modern title

[pine roost]

Locker is great for movement and aim training, especially for dealing with groups of enemies. So I play it a lot

But dawnbreaker and rogue are some other ones I enjoy playing

[arctic grove]

Everyone was just using the meta picks

[solar obsidian]

https://youtu.be/Xib2uUdmwdQ meanwhile we are happy with one map

[inner nacelle]

naval content for 2042 when

[arctic grove]

Also why tf does large gun lists matter if everyone gonna use the op one

Look at bf5 ffs

[eager spire]

the AEK isn't OP.

[arctic grove]

Stg 44

[eager spire]

It has the same TTK as the FAMAS, and also shotguns exist

[arctic grove]

Well clearly it was a popular pick

[eager spire]

plus it's not like all the other guns aren't usable.

yes but it's not OP.

[latent widget]

Ah yes tanks back again in the town area of golmud 2.0

🥹

[inner nacelle]

you will always have meta picks, thats just the way it is in gaming.

[arctic grove]

Dies to a shitty mine

[pine roost]

It’s not actually going to be golmud you know that right

[arctic grove]

Yes

We know

It just has a railway

[arctic grove]

Not me, I'm gonna use the coolest looking

[pine roost]

Not sure yoda here does

[granite island]

Can the railway

Have a active train

Pls

[arctic grove]

Oh ffs

[latent widget]

sorry active train is too hard to code

It will just be static

[arctic grove]

An abandoned railway

Sure

Ppl would camp on the damn train anyway

[granite island]

Move it by force

[latent widget]

2042 cant even have the maps rotate from time of day

:/

time of day is literally in engine

it is a dev preset

[arctic grove]

We can kinda count hourglass

It's just a time of day change with some particles

[granite island]

Would be cool if some maps had a day and night cycle

[arctic grove]

Orbital would be sick asf

[pine roost]

I’d just leave night time maps

[eager spire]

day/night cycles are kind of a worthless feature in multiplayer FPS games

[arctic grove]

Then u have ppl camping in shadows

Imagine the rocket explosion during night time

Also orbital has a time day shift

[eager spire]

there's a reason most people just go with dedicated night versions of maps, if night maps are a thing at all.

[granite island]

But each match is roughly 25 mins

[arctic grove]

It gets rainy

[tough folio]

needs to rain more on spearhead

[pine roost]

We do now have thermals and that IFF lighting thing, I still wouldn’t play it though

[inner nacelle]

all i need is thermal spam

[arctic grove]

With a giant red glowstick on them

[arctic grove]

Eh true

[granite island]

I mean like

The specialist already glow

[fervent rose]

the level designers prefer to pick a specific lighting for each level. day/night is whatever

[eager spire]

because in terms of a multiplayer shooter, you have to maintain a certain level of visibility on other players, otherwise the game just becomes very campy and annoying to play, and people just start leaving matches when they notice the map is at a certain point in it's cycle.

[arctic grove]

Looks at cod mw19

[latent widget]

I can assume if Battlefield 2042 is graphically what Battlefield 4 is and the next game is like Battlefield 1 fidelity wise, we are going to get photoreal game.

[granite island]

Bad memories

[pine roost]

They could make night modes a portal variant if people want it I guess but not in the main pool

[eager spire]

I remember Realism. That gamemode they had once at launch and then never ran again because it sucked ass

[arctic grove]

Why do ppl praise that campfest game

[granite island]

No idea

[eager spire]

It was still the best that modern CoD got

because Cold War, Vanguard, and MW22 all suck ass

[granite island]

Vanguard wasn't that bad

For me

[arctic grove]

The only unique mode Ig I liked was ground war even tho the maps were shitty

[arctic grove]

Because it's fun

And the NVG modes

[eager spire]

Vanguard is MW19 but worse

[arctic grove]

Sick gunplay with a satisfying ttk

[arctic grove]

I admit it was but jeasus it was so campy

[granite island]

Hourglass at night would be

Actually does the sandstorm count as night

[arctic grove]

Sorry best we can do is a 3 minute sandstorm

[arctic grove]

You can’t see stars with the city light pollution

[latent widget]

WE cant even get a blizzard on the snow map

[next gulch]

Anything at night would be good

[granite island]

Why would there be a blizzard

Breakaway isn't a snow biome

[arctic grove]

I wonder if that’s a blessing or a curse

[latent widget]

I would love the snow map in the dusk or dawnn with a bright moon and stars overhead

[tough folio]

am40 is good

[granite island]

A map with minimal buildings and plants only

[next gulch]

I think you're looking for BF1, 2042 looks worse and will never get that @latent widget

[granite island]

I'm actually glad they added the lights on characters

[arctic grove]

Thank fuck I can T1 assault class in coop matches

[latent widget]

Battlefront 1 and 2 had the best love and design.

[arctic grove]

Cuz 4500 kills is uhh a grind

[latent widget]

for frosbite

[inner nacelle]

a tornado that cant destroy anything

wonder what that would look like in BF4 or V

[arctic grove]

Same thing

[granite island]

PC explosion

[next gulch]

Battlefront 2015 still looks amazing I agree

DICE forgot how to do that again sadly

[arctic grove]

dice done a good job maintaining the game atleast even tho their still vets that consider them to be the scumiest company for tricking their customers

[inner nacelle]

well i disagree, in BF4 or V u had actual destruction, unlike here

[arctic grove]

They relied on the engine this time, instead of the artistic approach

Or randoms that just hate the game bc of the hate bandwagon

[inner nacelle]

"oh look a tornado, that will look great in a trailer"

[arctic grove]

I wonder if old bf fans will buy the next game all bc of 2042 failure

[arctic grove]

Name one bf4 destruction other than two story houses with scripted destructible walls

[latent widget]

Battlefront 1 and 2 had different time of day atmospheres it was elevated reality or hyper realism romanticism of environment and each biome was totally unique and we get the shit from bf 2042 maps, literally Battlefront 2 was the epitome of creative environments and detail the renaissance and 2042 is the dark age of dice

[next gulch]

of course they will, they can't help it

it's like WoW players

[granite island]

I still like the tornado

It's cool

[next gulch]

THIS EXPAC SUCKS IM QUITTING WORLD OF WARCRAFT, still buys the latest expac

[inner nacelle]

and thats already 10 times more than what 2042 can offer

[granite island]

And probably the best tornado inside of a video game

[arctic grove]

Still a fun game I give ‘em that lol

[arctic grove]

Literally arica harbor

[latent widget]

Battlefront 2 still has the most beautiful maps and graphics.

[arctic grove]

And it's a 5 yo game

Maybe even 6 at this point idk

IDEK if I’ll like another modern Bf game shît

[granite island]

So how are they gonna balance the sticky grenade launcher

[drowsy shuttle]

So you can kill infantry with the javelin too? Lol

[arctic grove]

Low ammo Ig

[latent widget]

I want an alternate history Battlefield game, like alternate reality wars, set in the 20th century/21st.

[arctic grove]

Cold War could work

[granite island]

Mfs gonna be running around on breakthrough like Demoman

[fervent rose]

compared to airburst its fine probably

[arctic grove]

Or another Bf game that has the futuristic/modern shit like 2042

But plain modern no

I can’t

I’m burnt from that

[inner nacelle]

i actually want a GOOD ww2 bf and modern setting

[arctic grove]

Bf5

There

[inner nacelle]

they abandoned it after it started gettting better

[arctic grove]

Doesn’t mean it’s not better

[arctic grove]

I hate the airburst with every cell of my organism

[granite island]

Actually there's only 1 ww2 BF game

I think

I'm not old

[arctic grove]

1942

So 2

[inner nacelle]

missing proper Western front, proper D-Day

like cmon

[arctic grove]

That sounds like a one sided map

[inner nacelle]

that would be like Pacific, several maps, weapons, gadget

[latent widget]

It will be interesting to see the next battlefield fully developed on frostbite iteration 4, for new dev hardware and software.

It will look pretty but anything else is a toss up.

[arctic grove]

Are we ever getting a cold war bf with new graphics

[granite island]

Cw boring

[arctic grove]

Nah man

M16 n shit

Just do a 2042 sequel or 2142

Shit

[granite island]

Expand the lore with a 2042 sequel

[arctic grove]

Or bad company 3

[arctic grove]

Well it's getting single player so

That'd be sick

[latent widget]

Battlefield U.S. MODERN CIVIL WAR. Maps: San Francisco park, golden gate bridge, pentagon building maps, new york, washing d.c map.

[arctic grove]

2042 sequel imo would be nice

[latent widget]

[granite island]

It'll be like black ops all over again

[arctic grove]

Tho the community would riot

Battlefield 2043

A lot

[granite island]

Bo3 no campaign

2042 no campaign

[latent widget]

Battlefield 2082

[arctic grove]

Maybe battlefield 2047

[arctic grove]

One single issue

Nukes

[granite island]

Battlefield 2042

Geostorm

[drowsy shuttle]

Battlefield 2041: The year before no pats.

[latent widget]

Battlefield 2042, but a more stylized and futuristic 2042 than the shit we got.

[arctic grove]

Europeans didn't exist in 2040 so it's just US and RU

[latent widget]

[arctic grove]

Sooo the financial crisis the global blackout the global warming the floodings u want that???

[granite island]

2042

But Florida didn't die

[arctic grove]

Oh and the countries falling one after another

Florida def died

[drowsy shuttle]

Yeah. RTS Battlefield game mode

[latent widget]

Battlefield: Ohio 2030

[arctic grove]

Florida is my fav country

[arctic grove]

Well I feel bad for u

Tampa sucks ass

Second best country is Ohio

Cuz funny

[granite island]

Ohio map with the acid rain

[arctic grove]

Big chem train levolution

Everyone gets lifelong diseases

[granite island]

Water does poison damage

[arctic grove]

O shit

Ugh how much longer until Tuesday fuck

Imagine chernobyl map

[latent widget]

Yes a great map, another desert bla blah blah map with no soul

[arctic grove]

Borrrrring

[granite island]

I actually wanted another desert map

[arctic grove]

It looks too much like renewal

[arctic grove]

If only DICE had great ideas for maps

The amount of reused assets

[granite island]

Renewal 2

Grand Operations

[arctic grove]

I feel like s4 map will be mid

And apparently s5 too

Fucking hell

[latent widget]

BRO IM TIRED OF THIS SHIT they need engineers to make the frosbite easier to make content and maps, they need better devs tools that streamline content devwlopment like a.i. upscaling on textures, so they dont have to handmake all the shit, tool magic brushes to paint in the terrain and levels.

[arctic grove]

A SINGLE URBAN MAP DAMMIT

[latent widget]

Why tf do they keep regressing

[arctic grove]

why do ppl like urban maps so much lol

[granite island]

Haha no urban for you

You get forest

[arctic grove]

You mean desert

[granite island]

Rain forest

[arctic grove]

Nah get JUNGLE

[fervent rose]

because there's predictable map flow?

when its just an open field in all directions its very random

[arctic grove]

So predictable?

Sounds lame

[fervent rose]

you can make the urban maps like swiss cheese

[granite island]

If it's a urban map

[arctic grove]

And it's also aesthetically pleasing

[granite island]

Then it's just gonna be an open wasteland

[fervent rose]

it isn't "lame" to have map flow

[granite island]

When all the houses are gone

[fervent rose]

its an fps

[arctic grove]

Not like that

If it’s too predictable then where’s the fun

[fervent rose]

well yea you cant make it too small or without flanking options

[latent widget]

Guys I found a nuke, I am nuking amazon hq

[arctic grove]

Cool

[arctic grove]

Can u nuke poland

No reason whatsoever

[granite island]

Oz is that you

[night vessel]

Ayoo what did Poland do

[latent widget]

I can nuke earth and end our miserable existence and cancer to the universe

[arctic grove]

Pole spotted

From Australia

[night vessel]

I'm not polish mate

Full grown Aussie here

https://tenor.com/view/police-ready-lets-do-this-prepared-cop-gif-14169708

[arctic grove]

Nuke US or Russia then

[latent widget]

i'm surprised frosbite engineers havent automated map creation, using like random generated maps or buildings, I guess they havent built that in the engine yet for dev tools, but if they do it would greatly increase content creation because then everything doesnt have to be hand made.

[arctic grove]

One nuke turns into a hundred

[latent widget]

a.i. generated content

[arctic grove]

I'm surprised frostbite doesn't self develop AAA games

[latent widget]

they got a fucking company super computer USE IT

[arctic grove]

I'm surprised frostbite didn't self develop a better engine

[night vessel]

Why would USA and Russia nuke each other when they can just conquer the land. U can't conquer land if it's radioactive

[latent widget]

A.i. in the future will be able to update an engine

makes movies

[arctic grove]

Because it's too late

If yoda nukes one of them

It's game over

[eager spire]

AI can’t even draw hands properly

[night vessel]

AI is Dum

[arctic grove]

Let’s be honest I doubt Oz has access to a fucking nuke out of all things

[latent widget]

Hell even in like 4 years dlss on graphics cards will be able to upscale a games frames of 4k to look like 8k, so you can play games at 4k 144z performance but look like 8k 144hz

2 dimensional frames are easy to upscale

[arctic grove]

Why do I want ai to replace jobs

That means less opportunities

Oz will nuke a small country and say "Oops, did I do that?"

[arctic grove]

[latent widget]

i'm waiting for ther day a.i. neural netowks can remaster a game by a click of a button

and it will happen

and it did already

in the future of the now

which is happening happened and is

[eager spire]

To be fair, the concept is not bad by itself. It just needs to be implemented alongside a Universal Basic Income system so people who leave their jobs due to this, or any other reason, really, aren’t compromising their ability to live life.

[arctic grove]

What waiting for content does to a man

[latent widget]

yes leave your jobs and do what?

You need some evolution in consciousness

humans regress and become lazy

if given a large amount of free time

[granite island]

Haha, im now I'm going to send all of these missiles to the exodus and the cubes.

[latent widget]

it is like herd sickness

[arctic grove]

What did the ikea do

Also these missiles suck ass

They can't even do damage

To a building

[latent widget]

I think the next battlefield game is a more future battlefield

[granite island]

Making annoying how to do instruction manuals

[latent widget]

or a modern setting in the USA

[eager spire]

@latent widget that’s not true. If given the time and resources, then people will continue to do things. Just because they don’t have to work a 9-5 all the time just to live doesn’t mean that people won’t do things.

[bleak ibex]

People would actually do what really interests them instead of letting money be a factor.

[eager spire]

Which would be a good thing for a lot of people.

[bleak ibex]

In my area rivers and creeks are polluted, nobody pays to have them cleaned up. If it wasn't for having to waste time to make money, that time would be spent out there making things right. Be much happier

[eager spire]

Like, of course, would I say that every job needs to be automated or replaced by AI? No. There are certainly things that people still need to do that AI cannot and should not be trusted to do. But even then, I still feel like those people should be paid more, as well as benefitting from UBI. The less people that are just barely getting by, living off paycheck to paycheck, the better it is for everyone.

[bleak ibex]

Stopped the chat with that intelligent talk.

[eager spire]

rip

I think I’m gonna go sleep, I’m tired.

[tribal epoch]

Bf 2042 will be free for ps plus subscriber next month

Not sure if u guys heard 🙂

So my question is, I plan to get the ps5 soon, will I be able to add the ps5 game to my library if i have a ps4 rn?

[green bough]

You will

Or at least I was

[tribal epoch]

Like the ps5 version. The ps4 version runs like a mofo when I tried the trial

[young wharf]

If they go WW2 again I'm gonna lose it

[tribal epoch]

Ah OK. Thanks @green bough

[green bough]

No problem

There are some steps for it to transfer the account but it’s not too much hassle

[arctic grove]

Damn fr?

[solar obsidian]

when a super mario 64 pc port have the latest dlss 2 version, while this 60 euro game cant be arsed

[arctic grove]

Waiting for a large influx of ps players next month then

[snow sandal]

I don't think my friends could do that when Wreckfest was a PS Plus game. But then again that was purely the PS5 version and not the PS4 version.

[solar obsidian]

precisely

[snow sandal]

I'm a BF player who never bought 2042. I'll certainly play it and stay.

I played the Beta and free weekend in Dec but I just didn't think it was worth paying for.

[arctic grove]

Think so. Game only has a ps4 and a cross gen version

[snow sandal]

Well you do

[rocky kraken]

i paid 120

[solar obsidian]

all those limitations about what version of a game you can play depending of the generation of hardware

[rocky kraken]

coped by playing the game

and now

i dont really suffer playing it

[arctic grove]

I liked this game since the beginning tbh

[rocky kraken]

It was suffering for the first 6-7 months

[arctic grove]

And bought it twice

For ps4 and PC

[smoky cedar]

i would enjoy it more if it was more optimized

[snow sandal]

I don't get you guys who pay ridiculous prices for Ultimate Editions etc. They are never worth it. Even if you have plenty of money

[smoky cedar]

biggest roadblock for me

[solar obsidian]

its been plenty optimised since season 1

[arctic grove]

Tf u playing on bud

[smoky cedar]

oh fr? i dont have it downloaded currently

[solar obsidian]

players are just expecting cod framerates in a game with 128 players in small areas

[snow sandal]

He's being a little hard on it honestly

[smoky cedar]

ah

type shit

[solar obsidian]

like seriously its hard to get under 60fps in this game with realistic expectation of the graphic settings

most will hit cpu bottleneck most likely where it tanks most

there are 32v32

[rocky kraken]

performance has been really off and on since 3.2 update

they fucked up cpu util

somehow

[snow sandal]

128 players was definitely the wrong move. 32v32 was the sweetspot

[arctic grove]

Idk my cpu is at 60-80 most of the time

[rocky kraken]

But the weirdest thing with 2042 is the fact that its been a year and the drone page has gotten ZERO love

[solar obsidian]

beside, players can just start there own "exodus conquest" in portal,
create a bit of hype in discord servers, and have the server up 24/7

[rocky kraken]

like wtf

[solar obsidian]

players are habbit animals, if you teach us there are a exodus server in portal,

it will echo when players in here are asking for it

[snow sandal]

Sure, but that isn't the same thing.

The game should have that support built in

[rocky kraken]

that is kinda built in tho

i mean the game modes dice make are made through portal

[solar obsidian]

it has, stop arguing about how server browser cant be used

[arctic grove]

Ahh

[snow sandal]

What I mean is there just needs to be a simple mode select at the menu.

So many servers empty cause no one wants to join an empty server

[rocky kraken]

Which now that I think about it, dice might have just developed portal for the benefit of easily creating gamemodes

[arctic grove]

A server named EAT SHIT

[rocky kraken]

lol

i mean like seriously

portal makes dice' job so much easier

[snow sandal]

I mean the mode should be an EA DICE mode with matchmaking.

[solar obsidian]

you have to promote yourself if you want anything to happen

[rocky kraken]

i personally dont enjoy the portal maps

[snow sandal]

And thats the exact issue

[rocky kraken]

most have zero atmoshpere

and just dont feel like the og

at all

[solar obsidian]

that goes for every single game

[arctic grove]

Dice LA fell off ngl

[rocky kraken]

also @solar obsidian do you know where to find that community survey?

ripple effect is making portal 2.0 rnm

[solar obsidian]

so now we have two
32v32 "exodus"
32v32 "aow only"

[rocky kraken]

I gurantee

[solar obsidian]

there are so many players asking for very specific playlists

[snow sandal]

With player created servers. I didn't say it was unique to 2042.

The whole point is an Official mode of 32v32 should exist.

[rocky kraken]

but i think ripple effect should be working with dice on battlefield itself

[solar obsidian]

if you want something to be permanent use the server browser

its been like that for battlefield for over 20 years,

it wont change

[latent widget]

I hope they bring server browser back

I want to rent a server

;/

[rocky kraken]

i know that the next game will also follow seasonal content

but like

[snow sandal]

Well, we don't have persistent servers, unless that has changed recently.

That's a big issue. Servers on BF4 are busy and last because they are persistent

[rocky kraken]

more than 1 map please

[latent widget]

I swear dice knows wtf we want but fucking ea gets in the way

I will destroy ea

[rocky kraken]

yoda frog

[solar obsidian]

you asking for something specific thats not poplar to have a permanent mode,

if 32v32 was poplar enough, it would have been a permanent mode in matchmaking,

[latent widget]

and reform it from ashes

[rocky kraken]

wait

wont frostbite for have dlss 3?

[latent widget]

Next battlefield game will get free seasonal content and payed dlc

[solar obsidian]

frostbite support dlss 3,

they just too lazy to update it with battlefield

[rocky kraken]

that would honestly

be baller

[solar obsidian]

nfs unbound have it

[rocky kraken]

bruh

isnt it just an addon

or is it alot of work

[latent widget]

This dev cycle they are developing battlefield on the new engine

it was held back to due to covid

and consoles were hard to get

[rocky kraken]

battlefield or battlefront?

[solar obsidian]

pretty much a toggle at this point with some slight adjustments for visual bugs that maybe occur

[latent widget]

battlefield

it auto corrected

O.O

[snow sandal]

Seasons have ruined gaming.

Also, the free live support is a fad. Not seen one game pull it off with the same amount of quality and quantity as paid DLC.

I remember having this discussion in here back near 2042's launch. Got a lot of people arguing against me saying that wasn't true.

Look at the amount of content added in over a year later...

[rocky kraken]

boutta say battlefront 3????

seaosnal +payed dlc would be perfect imo

content for free players

[latent widget]

WHY CANT YOU MFERS JUST PAY A SMALL $50 for 16 fucking new maps

[solar obsidian]

fortnite

path of exile

warframe

apex

[rocky kraken]

are they 50$?

[latent widget]

free dlc is a lie, there is only payed dlc,

[solar obsidian]

mw2

[latent widget]

fre dlc gives you 4 maps a year

[rocky kraken]

mw2 is a joke rn

[snow sandal]

These are all examples that haven't had paid dlc before.

[rocky kraken]

didnt all the seasons get leaked?

[latent widget]

payed dlc gives you 16

[solar obsidian]

yeah of course,
the very large majority hated dlc packs because they split the community

[latent widget]

$50 dollar aint that much if it gives you hundreds of hours or replayability

[rocky kraken]

hopefgully frostbite 4 has better physics

because damn

2042 physics

are some other type shit

[snow sandal]

You need to compare games that had premium models prior to their live service to have a true representation.

I guess a massive part of it is size of the playerbase. Smaller games will make way less money is mtx live service models

[latent widget]

frosbite 4 does have better physics

[solar obsidian]

we even have players hating how older bf games to this day is only base game maps, because thats what players only have

[rocky kraken]

how do we know tho?

[arctic grove]

That’s enough for another game on sale dude

[rocky kraken]

there has been like one sneak peak

[next onyx]

It's shitty either way. Dlc being payed means the dlc will die out and the maps being free means that there's less to come out.

[latent widget]

bro you people are greedy

i hope you get nuked

50 is nothing irl value

[arctic grove]

Bro

[latent widget]

you eat out for a fucking restaurant and it will be $20

[solar obsidian]

issue is here that some part of the world region pricing really fucks them over

[latent widget]

or fucking get a pair of pants

[snow sandal]

Remember how BF4 and Hardline both gave out the DLCs free at one point though? Like a year or two after

[arctic grove]

WHAY RESTAURANT PAYS UNDER 30$

[next onyx]

Yeah.

[latent widget]

BRO WHO CARES ABOUT THE REST OF THE WORLD

[crimson fog]

2042 IS SHIT

[wide shore]

Frankly. I do not want paid DLC ever again.

[latent widget]

Battlefield is a game for 1st world western countries

[solar obsidian]

small mindset

[wide shore]

Nothing is worse than paying 15$ for a DLC just to get maps you might not even like.

[arctic grove]

I can get enough groceries for a whole week for 50 dollars

[latent widget]

battlefield does not need to appease developing countries

[solar obsidian]

apex is so huge because its insanely big in asia

[arctic grove]

Exactly

[latent widget]

you people are hopless

void brained

:/

[arctic grove]

k

[latent widget]

Go back to monkey

lets the real humans take back the earth

[solar obsidian]

get to sleep, and dont take your dads vodka next time

[latent widget]

lets the atlantians come back

[jaunty fjord]

S4 didn't have squad management system?

[latent widget]

and RA

[solar obsidian]

no

[wide shore]

I actually felt ripped off buying BF4 premium. Even though I played in its prime, I didn’t like like any of the BF4 DLC maps. Not worth an extra $50

[rocky kraken]

how do we know stuff about frostbite 4?>

[snow sandal]

None of them?!

[latent widget]

bf4 has the best dlc

[jaunty fjord]

Lazy dice

[wide shore]

Not really. No.

[jaunty fjord]

I think S5 is the end of 2042

[arctic grove]

Squad management is still prob being in development since they prob wanna know how to do it

[snow sandal]

Like China Rising, I could see your point.

But the rest had at least 1 great map on each

[rocky kraken]

idk season 6 is unlikely

[arctic grove]

Yea

1

[granite island]

Me when I bought bf1 premium only to find out nobody plays the game anymore on ps

[jaunty fjord]

And then they gona to devlop netx bf game

[rocky kraken]

but would also make sense to finish legacy features

[snow sandal]

That's a highly unpopular opinion to have

[rocky kraken]

they are already in pre production

[copper ice]

why tf would i pay for shit half the playerbase wouldn't pay for with the quality of the base maps

[arctic grove]

Source?

[solar obsidian]

thats one of the refund we have gotten refund policy on most platforms

[rocky kraken]

hasnt this already been announced

[snow sandal]

Although I also did pay like £5-10 on premium I think

[latent widget]

the source is the from the source that says we are in 2013

wake up

[snow sandal]

But I loved the DLCs

[arctic grove]

No

[rocky kraken]

well

[wide shore]

Guilin Peaks is okay. But the rest of China rising was meh. Second Assault was cool and all but I feel like they ruined every map they brought back. They’re also not maps I would’ve picked. Naval strike just sucked. Dragons teeth was disappointing. Final Stand was OK. But I was not super fond of any of them.

[rocky kraken]

according to my calculations

[latent widget]

Guys wake up it is 2013!!!!!!!!!!!

[rocky kraken]

they are definitley starting the next game

or at least starting to plan it out

[latent widget]

the next game has been in pre production since t2042 came out

LOL

[rocky kraken]

yeaH

i was about to say

we wonder why 2042 content is limited

[snow sandal]

Did anyone hear like Carrier Assault? I thought it was such a cool gamemode

[rocky kraken]

because half the team is on the next game

[jaunty fjord]

I want BF4 remasted

[wide shore]

But on the other side of the coin I loved BF1’s DLC offerings for the most part. But I still prefer the free content.

[rocky kraken]

i dont want anything remastered

because dice would fuck it up

and put a stain on it

[next onyx]

Bfh dlcs were fun.

[solar obsidian]

this

[wide shore]

Cause at the very least, if a free map sucks you don’t lose anything.

[latent widget]

2042 is skeleton crew and is a data collector and stress test for the new engine, what data you may ask? data from player movement in maps, player data for game engine optimization, we got played and this was a battlefield alpha stress test

for the real game in 2024

[arctic grove]

Yea but where’s ur source for this claim

[rocky kraken]

i dont need a source

because what i say doesnt matter

lol

[arctic grove]

[next onyx]

I wouldn't want a remaster either way. Don't want to replay the same game twice with the same issues which made me want to be done with the game..

[snow sandal]

It's just logical.

[rocky kraken]

even if there was a source

it would probably be inaccurate

[latent widget]

the source says humanity is gross

[wide shore]

Then on top of it. DLC will die out. Then what’s the point. If you liked a DLC map a lot, after a while you’ll rarely ever be able to play it.

[rocky kraken]

im thinking

next bf launches with good maps

[solar obsidian]

this is why i prefer playlists with all maps, even though i like some more than other

[rocky kraken]

they release 3 maps per season

10 guns

and we good

[jaunty fjord]

I would pay 30$ for extra map and weapen

[snow sandal]

They should make it free forever at some point.

BF4/Hardline at least made the DLCs free to claim at some point

[arctic grove]

That is worse wtf

[wide shore]

Yeah after like 6-7 years. Then the DLCs flared up, then died again.

[next onyx]

Bf5's live service was a little better at least.

[arctic grove]

Just A map and A weapon

Really

[rocky kraken]

well

[wide shore]

Free maps ensure that as long as a game has a playerbase, the maps will get played.

[solar obsidian]

guys relax

[rocky kraken]

bf5 maps werent completley empty needing overhauls

[snow sandal]

Try 3 years.

[rocky kraken]

just hope it doesnt feel as arcadey as 2042

[wide shore]

3 years after BF4, BF1 was already out.

[copper ice]

witness the delicious desert

[rocky kraken]

go back to old movement

[latent widget]

Battlefield 7 in 2024: "Introducing Battlefield Seasonal content subscription! Be apart of the action with new skins, vehicles, guns, maps and playermodes for only $2 dollars a month! If you cancel the subscription you will be locked out of content, old content becomes free over time early access is and specialty skins, are premium special for only access!"

[wide shore]

Al Sundan & Panzerstorm beg to differ. But mostly true

[latent widget]

[next onyx]

Didn't panzerstorm go through a few changes as well.

[wide shore]

I don’t remember it doing so

[solar obsidian]

i honestly liked panzerstorm for the big areas

[copper ice]

Yes it did that accursed realm of HE hell

[wide shore]

I know they added a “night” version

[snow sandal]

Btw I'm NOT disagreeing with you on most of this.

I just think free models never meet the quality we used to get.

[next onyx]

I dislike the content we get with free content but at least that content never dies.

[jaunty fjord]

BF need primuim back,because we can get stable high qulaty map and weapen

[wide shore]

They don’t. But that’s because they were getting paid up front for the work.

I also think this is not always the case. See: BFV pacific

[latent widget]

Payed dlc and premium back.

[next onyx]

Bf5 pacific was good. 4 themed maps.

[latent widget]

kiss my butt

[jaunty fjord]

free content is not good for BF

[copper ice]

they're not going to doi premium anymore because it makes them less money

[snow sandal]

Yeah, Pacific was one worthy of being similar to a paid dlc.

But they never maintained that quality.

[solar obsidian]

premium is not even remotely close as lucrative as there current model with skin store and battlepass,

we will never get premium back as it was

[copper ice]

people passively shell out more for skins than premium

[solar obsidian]

players voted with there wallets

[copper ice]

^

[wide shore]

Paid maps have passed their prime. Thankfully. Splitting the playerbase, and having people preorder DLC content isn’t a good model.

[solar obsidian]

if we ARE getting premium, you will still see the best skins in the store anyways

[snow sandal]

I don't get how. Who is buying these skins lol. Waste of money

[wide shore]

Plus we don’t gotta pay for guns anymore. Which is good

[next onyx]

But the less maps we have is annoying.

One map a month per season would be decent at least.

[copper ice]

people in this discord

idk why

[next onyx]

Skins look nice.

[arctic grove]

Fr

[wide shore]

I think if they didn’t have to remake a map every season we’d at least have 2 maps per season

[arctic grove]

Tho I still using the BP skins

[wide shore]

I think that is a totally fair model

[jaunty fjord]

unfortunately we just get more useless skin and less map and weapen

[wide shore]

One new map at the start. One at the end.

[snow sandal]

I remember talking to someone on here who had spent over $1000 on cosmetics in games alone

[copper ice]

people used to go on massive rants with me about bfv a couple years ago and then drop a hot 50 on boins for a bunch of fugly skins

[arctic grove]

Well I did get pale horse from the nordvik event

And that panthera skin for the T 28

[jaunty fjord]

I cant stand only one new map in a season

[copper ice]

they don't have to remake it, they're remaking them because it's easier than making a new map

[arctic grove]

Yet u would buy a 30$ one

[copper ice]

i mean because the community wants it

[arctic grove]

Ok

[solar obsidian]

hot take here,

if you want insane amount of map drops in your games,

start playing games with community map support in one way or another

map maker or mod tools

[latent widget]

Look at bf 4 and bf1 they still have so many players bc they got payed dlc with lots of variety and that dlc became so cheap after a year and led to longevity

[snow sandal]

Not everyone plays on PC

[latent widget]

you people have short term attention spans

[wide shore]

I mean if their podcasts are anything to go by. That’s not even entirely true. Maybe at the beginning. But lately the remakes have been changing the maps a ton. And require a lot of work.

[solar obsidian]

games like starcraft 2 are having new maps constantly

[solar obsidian]

halo

[copper ice]

they always argue changing old maps is more complicated than making new ones

it always sounds like baloney

[solar obsidian]

cant really blame sony for locking down there games so hard when it comes to community content,

you have trackmania as a cross platform game

[latent widget]

They are phoning it in.

[jaunty fjord]

Why not make more new maps in AOW, and move the old maps to show that the production capacity of dice is low

[wide shore]

They said they contemplated doing that on the maps podcast.

[copper ice]

why not make maps for specific game modes so they're actually tailored for gameplay

[arctic grove]

I’d rather have good maps then a bunch of shit ones

[snow sandal]

Your point isn't even that strong though. "If you want maps go play this game that is nothing like the game you are talking about"

[copper ice]

so would i but god knows the reworks arent helping with that lol

[jaunty fjord]

I'd rather pay $30 to keep primiuim for multiple high quality maps and weapons than free low quality content updates

[arctic grove]

Wdym yes they are

Except renewal

[ocean ferry]

https://twitter.com/bfbulletin/status/1628869489830895619?s=46&t=qhmzA9-55n09VTdW6HK5ow

Battlefield Bulletin (@BFBulletin)

#Battlefield2042 is coming to PlayStation Plus in March 🎮
Available from March 7th to April 3rd, 2023 🗓️

Thanks for the heads up @Zook_ABOSAUD @PetrosLiviakis 👍

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Twitter · Feb 23, 2023, 9:28 PM

[copper ice]

I ain't fond of breakaway rework at all

[solar obsidian]

yeah, because all these mainstream shooters dont have community tools for a reason, they dont want the games to last for a decade,

ea want you to buy a battlefield game years a few years apart

[arctic grove]

Ofc u aint💀

[copper ice]

it's messy and feels poorly constructed

[solar obsidian]

but there are plenty of other games that shown how to handle community content

[jaunty fjord]

Every generation of battlefield since dice abandoned the peimuim system has been abysmal

[snow sandal]

So why'd you even make the point then lol.

[solar obsidian]

because you have to look further than the most marketed games

[jaunty fjord]

Bad launch of BF5 and 2042

[wide shore]

The breakaway remake is so much better than the old one it’s not even close.

[arctic grove]

THE OLDER GAMES LAUNCHED BAD 2

[wide shore]

BF4 had one of the worst launches ever.

[solar obsidian]

older battlefield games had mod support

but again, pc only

[snow sandal]

And these games are? Again, telling people to play games that aren't like the one's we are talking about is just beyond stupid.

[arctic grove]

Like did ppl srsly move on from that and forget that happend?

[copper ice]

every single breakaway match ive played since rework has had camping tanks on top of the ice with Irish APS that refuse to die

[snow sandal]

You guys wanting more maps in a game like BF2042?

If you want that, go play Track bloody mania!!

[wide shore]

Nostalgia goggles cloud a lot of things

[copper ice]

it's dogshit for just that let alone everything else

[arctic grove]

Sooo u just hate tanks and not the map…

[snow sandal]

The net code was horrible.

Although at least the content and the game was there on launch.

[copper ice]

the map design is helping them camp

[arctic grove]

Unplayable for a year

[wide shore]

Yes. BUT. They had the audacity to sell multiple full priced DLCs when the game was literally unplayable.

[snow sandal]

That's not true, at least for me on PS4

[solar obsidian]

starcraft, warcraft, halo, trackmania, trials series, counter strike, tf2, company of heroes,

[copper ice]

the ice floe gives them a complete view of everything

[snow sandal]

It was not "unplayable"

[wide shore]

It was unplayable for a lot of people

[snow sandal]

And those games are so close to BF2042 👍

[solar obsidian]

red orchestra 1-2 rising storm 1-2

[wide shore]

Old Gen couldn’t even play Dawnbreaker. Crashed the game every single time.

[solar obsidian]

you want battlefield like, there they are

[copper ice]

tf2 has better specialists than 2042

[arctic grove]

That’s tf2 ofc they do

[copper ice]

put spy in bf

[next onyx]

Yeah bf4 was unplayable for a part of its users until 18 months later if I believe?

[arctic grove]

And still sold dlc

[wide shore]

It may have had content. But a lot of people couldn’t play it anyway

[solar obsidian]

yep bought it myself 12 months later

[arctic grove]

2042 got fixed quicker then that ironically

Besides features

[copper ice]

proof bf fans will buy a car with no wheels 5 times in a row

[solar obsidian]

@snow sandal arma games,
most military shooters have some kind of mod support on pc, as long as you dont look at the AAA mainstream

[copper ice]

why make the game work when it continues to sell

[solar obsidian]

insurgency

[jaunty fjord]

But the dlc content and update of BF4 brought it back, and it's still high quality dlc

[snow sandal]

Again, PC only and not like BF2042.

Feel like I'm a parrot

[wide shore]

You just described a lot of triple A games

[wide shore]

Yep. It only costed you $10 less than the game.

[arctic grove]

Shit maps

[solar obsidian]

if you want the exact same as battlefield,

[wide shore]

If you could play it.

[solar obsidian]

you not gonna get it,

[arctic grove]

And big price

[jaunty fjord]

It took 2042 a year to reach the level where the main body can barely play

[arctic grove]

Gee and so did bf4

[snow sandal]

Exactly. That's why your rebuttal to people wanting more maps was nonsensical.

[copper ice]

that's why i don't buy triple A games anymore

[fair ginkgo]

noob here. Which game mode is most popular? I dont know what to queue for...

[crimson basin]

Breakaway breakthrough first phase is so bad with all the people above the objectives.

[solar obsidian]

@snow sandalbut again, we better remove rush then, its not battlefield, and where just a mode copied from other games

[copper ice]

unfortunately they seem to sell more than ever

[arctic grove]

Conq and BT

[wide shore]

There’s still good ones. Definitely have to be more selective these days though.

[copper ice]

everything except hazard zone

[fair ginkgo]

then do I do 'Seasons Conquest'?

or just COnquest

[arctic grove]

Play what u want

[wide shore]

Conquest will probably have more players rn.

[fair ginkgo]

i want the most popular one lol

[wide shore]

Seasons CQ only has 3 maps

[copper ice]

if i do get any iits only after a drastic sale by which time most issues are dealt with

[wide shore]

[snow sandal]

Lol what? How is that even remotely similar to what I was saying?!

Also rush has been in since Bad Company (2010)

[arctic grove]

Well there’re both are so no difference

[copper ice]

second phase feels the same way imo

[jaunty fjord]

Yes, but 2042 has no dlc and no more than 10 new AOW weapons in a year

[solar obsidian]

@snow sandaland calling rising storm "not a battlefield game"

might be the most hilarious thing because they share so much in design

[arctic grove]

Atleast they bothered to fix old maps

[wide shore]

It also didn’t cost you a dime, doesn’t split the playerbase and you’ll be able to play the DLC maps still in a few months.

Also players who don’t buy the DLC can still use new guns.

[solar obsidian]

you want me to listen, but dont even read yourself 🙂

[wide shore]

Cause paywall guns are fucking stupid.

[copper ice]

dlc maps are not good for longevity

[solar obsidian]

@snow sandalgood luck with that ps ecosystem,

if you want games to last a decade buy an xbox or pc

[snow sandal]

My response was sent before you typed that out. Also, isn't that also PC only? LOL.

[snow sandal]

I have a PC...

[solar obsidian]

then whats the issue with pc games exactly ?

[jaunty fjord]

It is released for a whole year and a bade map is repaired every season, why not do it before the release,mainfest is the worest rework map

Dice is lazy

[copper ice]

not lazy but poorly organised

[arctic grove]

Manifest?

Really

[snow sandal]

*gets fed Parrot food

Not everyone plays on PC. You do know you can make arguments for something even when it doesn't apply to yourself?

[copper ice]

lots of work they do is scrapped

[arctic grove]

Manifest

[solar obsidian]

imagine this insanity,

ea released a faithful perfect remaster of two old loved games, while keeping mod support and having steam workshop tools on top of that,

it costed 20 euro combined

[arctic grove]

So ur gonna give renewal a pass but not manifest?

[jaunty fjord]

manifest is the worest rework map

[arctic grove]

[copper ice]

i dont even remember 2042 map names because they're all so bland compared to older games

[wide shore]

Worst remake is Kaleidoscope cause they barely did anything to it tbh.

[solar obsidian]

players choose to play where they want, but they dont need to cry over missing out on features that been a staple to the pc,

[wide shore]

Manifest didn’t need a big rework it was already the best map in the game

[jaunty fjord]

The defender at the beginning can use the vehicle to farm on the mountain

[fair ginkgo]

is there a shooting range/training area?

[solar obsidian]

nobody forced anyone to buy a console

[midnight mesa]

still cool to see them touch up some things

[solar obsidian]

nothing wrong with those, they offer accesibility

but it comes at a cost

[arctic grove]

Fr

[snow sandal]

Look, your whole point was just completely invalid from the get go.

Have a good night, no point discussing this any further.

[midnight mesa]

i like that they pretty much brought objectives closer

[wide shore]

I play Conquest like 98% of the time so idk.

[wide shore]

I agree. Not hating on it. Just saying it didn’t need a lot of touching up

[solar obsidian]

whole point?

because you keep changing whats a battlefield game is ?

[midnight mesa]

breakthrough after 3.2 feels off

[solar obsidian]

and dont accept thats the pc are the only place you get these things?

[arctic grove]

Wow what the fuck is one vehicle shooting at u gonna do

[solar obsidian]

alright

[snow sandal]

That's similar with newer CoDs for me. Maybe that's also because the names aren't as simple anymore

[arctic grove]

Just flank AROUND

[midnight mesa]

bro i missed the first couple of days when 3.2 launched

people actually revived

[snow sandal]

Again, I'm not going to discuss this further. Try read through everything I've said again. It's as if you don't read what I say collectively.

[midnight mesa]

it was a phenomenon

[wide shore]

I mean, map names in previous games were just. Names of the locations mostly. Lol.

[midnight mesa]

nobody does shit anymore

[snow sandal]

Exactly. That's what made it so easy

[wide shore]

Let’s not forget also Battlefield 3’s obsession with “operation ____”

[arctic grove]

Fr

[snow sandal]

Think CoD4, MW2. Essentially all maps were one simple word of the location

[arctic grove]

Operation this operation that

[midnight mesa]

just play stranded 😹

[arctic grove]

Can’t remember half of em

[wide shore]

Operation Locker
Operation Firestorm
Operation Metro
Operation 925

I think there’s more too

Locker is from 4 but you get the point

Operation Riverside. Forgot that one.

[midnight mesa]

it would be cool if they turned that underground tunnel in the hourglass rework into a metro type area

the screenshot kinda reminded me of it

[solar obsidian]

@wide shoreriverside? 😄

ahh

you typed it

[wide shore]

Operation Hastings from BC2 Vietnam

[solar obsidian]

operation marked garden

[wide shore]

DICE loved that word. Lol

[solar obsidian]

oh wait

wrong game

[midnight mesa]

operation harsh doorstop

[wide shore]

[tame parrot]

I'm really curious what the Hourglass rework will be like. It's definitely the hardest to pull off.

[solar obsidian]

operation 🐺

[midnight mesa]

i hope they bring more attention to the stadium

it’s a fun place to fight in

[tame parrot]

Ageeed

[wide shore]

I like the idea of underground tunnels. Though I feel like they’d be hard to have make sense. The dunes would collapse most of them logically. But uhh, I’m here for it.

[midnight mesa]

but for the love of GOD reduce the travel time to get to places

[wide shore]

Move the arena closer. Make it so the arena isn’t 3 flags all in one sector too

It’s great to fight over. But it’s useless

Sectors were an interesting idea. But they don’t work well in practice.

If you fight over a sector that has more than 1 flag you’re doing your whole team a disservice.

[midnight mesa]

they should definitely have the stadium in breakthrough as well

[copper ice]

128p moment

[tame parrot]

Yeah. I really like C as it is. It's a great focal point, good mix of infantry and vehicle opportunities. The big square at the south of the map, and (B??) are pretty boring right now.

[midnight mesa]

it’s the perfect ‘final stand’ for breakthrough hourglass

[wide shore]

I like 128

[midnight mesa]

not some open are in a city lol

[arctic grove]

Adding a military base in the center of it would be nice too

[copper ice]

it directly led to sectors

dice dinnae handle it well

[wide shore]

I understand it led to sectors. But it’s a prime example of dice overcompensating for the size when they didn’t need to

128 works perfectly fine on the newer maps, and would work just as good without sectors.

I think the new map doesn’t even have sectors

[next onyx]

Last I saw it was straight up single objectives.

[wide shore]

Yeah. The layout is all like a1, b1, c1 ect

Unless that’s the 64p layout

[next onyx]

Christ I've got so many mods for Terraria when it starts up it lags.

[wide shore]

Me but Minecraft

[green bough]

Do you think they’ll stick with 128 for the next game

[next onyx]

"Why is my computer dying"

[wide shore]

Probably not. But I wouldn’t mind.

[next onyx]

I think the early community reception will lead them to not doing it.

[green bough]

I hope they don’t so they can hopefully produce more maps

[solar obsidian]

10/10 game, insane how much that grew over the decade

[wide shore]

As long as the maps are made solely for 64 I don’t care.

The problem is, this game just plays better with 128. I don’t like any of the base maps with 64 cause the game just isn’t made for it.

[green bough]

That’s true

[wide shore]

They feel empty. Slow. Not a fan of it.

[next gulch]

They’re so gonna drop 128 players next BF and it’ll be a shame

[green bough]

I feel one of the biggest things holding dice back is the fact that the assets used in each map are completely different except for shipping containers

[wide shore]

The new maps, and the remakes are great with 128p. That’s how they should’ve done it at launch. I think a lot more people would like 128 now. But they’ve already moved onto 64 and I doubt they’ll look back

[tame parrot]

I'm with ya there. I like 128, it's fun.

[wide shore]

[tame parrot]

I know what you mean, but I've also seen a lot of common assets too.

[fervent rose]

i wish that were true lmao

[tame parrot]

Concrete dividers, roadblocks, crates, random debris, some of the industrial stuff. I see reused buildings from Discarded in Flashpoint.

[brittle forge]

It was like the one genuinely good idea from this game’s launch but it soured the community cause they botched most of the maps for it horribly

It sucks

[wide shore]

I wouldn’t say there’s an issue with a lot of new assets. At least not in any way that affects performance.

The problem with not reusing assets is that there’s less destruction. Cause new assets need to be made with destruction in mind. Easier (as they showed back in the day) to just copy paste the same destructible building everywhere.

[tame parrot]

I would love alt appearances for maps. Night time with northern lights for Spearhead anyone?

[next gulch]

Yeah, we’re gonna go backwards now

[tame parrot]

Some of the best BF maps stand out for their dramatic looks. I miss that. Hourglass brings it with the storm.

Levelution was great. Anything that adds that epic feel. Love that scale.

[brittle forge]

One point on the new Discarded showed like a bunch of overturned rusty buses, and I was like “holy shit a unique cover asset that isn’t a sandbag or shipping container”

[wide shore]

Hourglass looks awesome with the storm and the lights. Wish the flag layout was better in the city area so that it was worth even going there

[fervent rose]

the city area is just so much fucking flatland

[wide shore]

I think it’s a decent area to fight over. But there’s no reason to.

It’s all 1 sector. It’s useless

[fervent rose]

The cover is highly lacking

[wide shore]

Well, that can easily be fixed

[brittle forge]

Honestly I though the city was the good part of Hourglass I couldn’t stand basically anywhere else

[fervent rose]

the city and the highway can be fixed up a lot. I hope they just remove that stupid "village" part

[wide shore]

I like B & D. Lots of destruction, decent fights. But the space between those areas is too vast.

[brittle forge]

that one park area surrounded by one story buildings isn’t too bad

[inner roost]

Sad that Season 5 looks so good but it'll prob be the end of 2042

[brittle forge]

but it’s remote

[wide shore]

They just need to grab every corner of hourglass and just squeeze it together.

[brittle forge]

Yeah I hope they confirm an S6 soon

[wide shore]

And it can be one of the best maps in the game tbh

Cause it does have some really fun combat areas.

The arena is awesome

[inner roost]

With the game going free, I doubt we getting content after S5

[wide shore]

All the more reason to keep it going wdym

More players=more money

[brittle forge]

tbf what does the ps plus free release have to do with content release

[wide shore]

Nothing.

[brittle forge]

I’m asking the other guy

[wide shore]

It’s a way to get more players now that they’ve squeezed the paying customers all they could.

It’s also free on EA Play. Which is part of game pass.

[brittle forge]

Since I’m pretty sure that’s what he’s talking about since the game isn’t “going free” to my knowledge it’s just next months ps plus game

[solar obsidian]

is cross play on or off by default ?

on ps5 ?

[fervent rose]

on

[wide shore]

On

[solar obsidian]

good good

[wide shore]

Can never find console only games

[solar obsidian]

precisely why i asked, would give terrible first impression seeing dead games

[wide shore]

Yeah, it’ll be fine for them.

Unless they don’t wanna play with PC players

[solar obsidian]

fresh meat

they wont be fine

[tame parrot]

Dude, free games are big money. Never underestimate how many people will just throw cash at cosmetics, even if they wouldn't have bought the game at full price

[wide shore]

I played with crossplay off for a good bit. Early on

But that’s when aim assist was basically non-existent

[tame parrot]

Honestly crossplay has never been an issue for me?? I'm a PS5 player, and I'd say I average between 5-20 on the scoreboard.

But I hear other people's experience is different

[wide shore]

At launch the aim assist was borked. I could not deal with that while also being expected to play against PC players.

Once they fixed it, I can hardly even tell who is who anymore

[fervent rose]

controller players get a lot of assists, but it isnt broken like cod aimbot

its pretty fair

[wide shore]

Some people don’t like playing with AA on. But I’m not one of those people.

It’s absolutely a skill issue. But idc

[fervent rose]

well you cant turn off all of the assists either way

like the lower recoil

[wide shore]

It was dumbfounding to me that this games AA was so shit, that it almost didn’t even exist. When it has always been good on console. But in THIS game I have to play against PC players? Nah dog.

[tame parrot]

Whenever content ends, I'm just hoping we get a Wake Island and Op Underground equivalent.

[wide shore]

I just played with crossplay off till it was fixed.