battlefield-2042

[fervent rose]

the 3 enemy tanks ran out of ammo

ez

[stable sail]

HaChi was broken lmao

[pliant acorn]

Is PP29 worth grinding

[stable sail]

Only time I managed to go 150+ kills in a game

[copper ice]

everything in bfv vehiclewise was broken

[stable sail]

nahhhh not hachi broken

hachi was another level

small, fast, fucking ROCKETS

[copper ice]

it was just whether it was good broken or leg broken

the pacific was another degree of poor balance choices though I'll agree with that

no idea what they were thinking

[fervent rose]

all tanks were broken but you were legit free kills for air vehicles

[stable sail]

pacific was best part of BFv

[fervent rose]

such an obnoxious thing

[copper ice]

JUBBA

[fervent rose]

random 1 bomb pass

[stable sail]

best maps best weaps best tanks

[copper ice]

but you could run the loverly whirbelwind and witness your 5 damage against their plane

Pacific was ass imo

[stable sail]

Yknow what was ass is Fjell 652

talk about POOR map design

[copper ice]

maps were obnoxiously large for conquest, the vehicles were ridiculously agile on top of powerful and the planes were a fucking nightmare

[fervent rose]

Iwo and Solomon are fine maps, but god i could have done without another wake island

[copper ice]

i loved fjell

[stable sail]

terrible visibility

[copper ice]

snow and horrible horrible chokepoints

visibility doesnt matter when there's 50 flares in the air

[edgy oriole]

bfv wake island was dope

[stable sail]

When game came out you didn't have the fucking fliger

[copper ice]

pop flare reload pop flare suicide respawn on beacon pop flare repeat

[edgy oriole]

bfv pacific was dope

bfv pacific was battlefield

[stable sail]

Fjell 652 was absolutely dogwater at launch until Fliger came out

Then it was just slightly less dogwater

still dogwater

just slightly less

[copper ice]

bfv Pacific was the granddaddy of their dogshit balance choices

[stable sail]

nahhhhhhhh

cap

[fervent rose]

they were knee deep into the go big go stupid with Hamada and Panzerstorm

[copper ice]

if you didn't level your planes when Pacific released you were literally dogfood against a full upgraded enemy

[fervent rose]

haha bfv pacific tank balance was initially so busted too

[copper ice]

at least the western vehicles only had so many upgrades

[stable sail]

with Hachi yeah

didnt matter upgrades

[copper ice]

the pacific vehicles were insane

[fervent rose]

and then reversed later on

[stable sail]

upgrades legit did not matter

squad call ins were leagues better

Hachi was near unkillable

[copper ice]

they certainly gave up on balancing it

fuck those rockets

awful experience as infantry

[stable sail]

special place in my heart for those rockets lmao

i loved that fucking tank lmao

[copper ice]

bazooka absolutely did not make up for the added agility of pacific tanks

[stable sail]

took OP and was like fuck it, have some more

[fervent rose]

the american one was cooler

but hachi was op

[stable sail]

Cooler but not better

haci had that small chassis that could hide in better spots lmao

[copper ice]

and lunge mine had a 50% chance of just not working

on the off chance you actually managed a flank

[stable sail]

yeah but then it'd just turn and smack you with 35 rockets

lmao

and still have 25 to go

[fervent rose]

when your ally exit animation blocks a lunge mine

[stable sail]

i mean half the time I used the 47mm to kill inf

and rockets to destroy everything else

wait did it do that? lol

never knew

[copper ice]

i have a clip somewhere of me tossing anti tank nade at a tank, having it bounce off instead of damage it, lunge mine it which also fails to damage it, then killing an enemy and getting killed by his ally who spawned on his corpse after i started reloading

i loved bfv but holy fuck did i hate that game

[stable sail]

https://static.wikia.nocookie.net/battlefield/images/1/17/BF5_Type_97_Promotional.jpg/revision/latest/scale-to-width-down/1000?cb=20191023150946

just small enough to hide in dem bushes

[copper ice]

Those rockets made chase camera a lot easier to use fo sure

[stable sail]

https://static.wikia.nocookie.net/battlefield/images/3/32/M4_T34_1_BFV.jpg/revision/latest/scale-to-width-down/1000?cb=20190416193344 meanwhile able to see this mfer wherever

solomon and center point of Pacific Storm some of the best map design imo tho

good flanks, good cover to defend too but not impossible to breach

[near willow]

What Weapons would you guys say is the best in bf2042 atm?

[stable sail]

idk SFAR

as an all rounder

[near willow]

Oh okay

[stable sail]

anyone can pick up that gun and absolutely crush

[near willow]

Been playing the AM 40 for a while now, very powerful

[stable sail]

K90 slaps, M5A1 slaps, AM40 slaps, Avancys is broken laser lmg

I've been utilizing the AK a bunch now and love it

esp with those mag reversion changes

tbh all guns slap just depends on what level of slapping'

clear winner imo is SFAR

if you can actually aim

the uh...

Ac42

legit laser rifle

my friend is usually good at this game but he has been smoking fools with the AC42... 200 kill game as inf

[near willow]

Damnnn

[copper ice]

pbx close combat ammo is broken currently and doubles your minimum kill range from 4btk at 10m to 4btk at 20m
m5a3 is incredibly good with short barrel, sfar is also very solid for longer ranges
LCMG with short barrel is 4btk to 30m with high rof
the real winners are the SVK (i would argue is the best gun in the game) and the BSV for accuracy and range combined with kill speeds

[stable sail]

wat

[fervent rose]

any base game AR, or BSVM

[stable sail]

BSVM is def good tho

SVK over SFAR nahhhh

[fervent rose]

and ze pp29

[near willow]

SVK, interesting

[stable sail]

most engagements are close to mid range

[fervent rose]

pp2000 also pretty good but man its like an airsoft gun

[stable sail]

and you are not beating out the SMG / AR sweats lol

[fervent rose]

yeah svk is very good at what it does, but its definitely not the best gun in the game

[stable sail]

SFAR has this crazy magnet for its bullets where it loves to hit your head

and kill you in 2-3 shots

[near willow]

AM 40 is almost like an SMG

[stable sail]

ya its pree good once you get big mag

[fervent rose]

yeah and its headshots do damage

unlike the smgs now

[copper ice]

SVK is pinpoint with faster kill times than the SFAR outside of double SFAR headshot

[stable sail]

ya but you're talking sniping

aint no way you're beating out SFAR mid range lol

[copper ice]

yeah

[stable sail]

unless that player is completely UNAWARE

lmao

[near willow]

I only did 3 bot matches for that just today

[stable sail]

good choice

AM40 drum is great

[fervent rose]

red laser drum

[copper ice]

svk short barrel standard mag is genuinely faster to kill than the SFAR is

[fervent rose]

dont fall for the new color laser trap

[copper ice]

look at the rof

[stable sail]

just drop a BCG and Warhawk

on any AR

or SMG

and bam

good gun

[arctic grove]

Guys tell me

[stable sail]

sorry Champion*

not warhawk

[arctic grove]

How do I get 100 kills with a91

Without losing my mind

[stable sail]

bot matches

[fervent rose]

bot game

[copper ice]

which one is a91 again

[arctic grove]

Oh right

[arctic grove]

Russian bullpup

[stable sail]

bot match breakthru

[fervent rose]

one of the very mid vault guns

only acw-r is worse for ARs

[copper ice]

heh heh vault guns

[stable sail]

if you want to really farm it breakthrough on Stranded

[fervent rose]

stranded ends too fast

[stable sail]

ehhh it onyl ends fast if you A. put an obj marker down or B. push into obj

else it aint bad

[fervent rose]

new breakaway is very easy to get way more kills in solo

[copper ice]

breakaway rework the bots get confused

[granite island]

Oh 2042 will be on ps plus next month

[copper ice]

the round never ends

[fervent rose]

yea

its the best

[stable sail]

Breakaway is ok

[copper ice]

good for farming, hell if you wanted to actually play it

[drowsy shuttle]

oh the SPH explosive launcher is gonna be fun af (i hope)

[copper ice]

it has a genuine issue with the bots where they dont push properly so the tickets dont drain and the round just doesn't end

[stable sail]

I'd say I've played Orbital the most on breakthrough

the 2nd point where you have tunnels underground is single best spot to farm

as long as you dont push objs

for bot farming that is

Exposure is also reeeeeeeallly nice at 2nd points

in tunnels

[sterile canyon]

who want commander mode in 2042?

[stable sail]

Nah I'm good already was in top 10 in BF4 for a while

They showed they can't handle remaking commander mode from BF2

[sterile canyon]

cause they too lazy do it?

[fervent rose]

commander mode is just random nonsense

always was

[stable sail]

i mean in Bf4 yeah

it was more like playing checkers or chess

[copper ice]

as fun as commander mode is, you lose out drastically if you don't have one

[stable sail]

against another commander

who could EMP the other first and also drop a missile

then the constant UAV / Counter UAV spamming

lots of stupid micro for some reward I guess

good commanders usually top 5 in kills

ESSPECIALLY in floodzone

ezest to kill farm as commander

1 missile is like an entire obj and 1/6th of the map lmao

yall try out Battlebit Remastered yet

thats really the next BF

[eager spire]

it’s not.

[arctic grove]

It’s really not tbh

[edgy oriole]

battlebit is pixel squad

but better

[eager spire]

it’s more like low poly Squad, trying to play it like Battlefield will only result in disappointment.

[stable sail]

nahh not really

[arctic grove]

P much

Or that tabs game

[stable sail]

has squad features but it aint squad

[edgy oriole]

its more squad than battlefield tenfold

[stable sail]

gameplay is BF for sure

[arctic grove]

This

[eager spire]

mate I’ve played it for multiple playtests, that is literally the design intent of the game.

[stable sail]

Squad Features, BF gameplay

[eager spire]

It exists because the lead developer could not run Squad.

[arctic grove]

😂

[drowsy shuttle]

What is best for the NVK-S22? Buckshots, right?

[arctic grove]

Wait fr lycan?

[eager spire]

Yes.

[arctic grove]

that’s funny

[fervent rose]

flech but you have very few shells

[stable sail]

I mean its just not Squad pixelized lol

[drowsy shuttle]

Hum alright. Ty

[fervent rose]

slightly better one tap range

[low timber]

Flechette and buckshot are the same, so flechette for the penetration or buckshot for extra 10 rounds.

[eager spire]

It sure ain’t Battlefield, though.

[stable sail]

You're trippin if you think just cuz it has squad features = squad lol

[eager spire]

You can’t really play it like that.

[stable sail]

I mean it definitely is closer to BF in gameplay lol

[arctic grove]

Anyhow tho

[edgy oriole]

i mean i play the playtest and its squad gameplay

[stable sail]

its not tho

[edgy oriole]

i dont feel "this is battlefield" at all

[arctic grove]

Lycan I got a Bf 2042 related image u could post please since I don’t got perms(it’s mostly for ps players)

[drowsy shuttle]

Cool. Well i like to penetrate. giggity

[low timber]

Personally I’ve ran the NVK-S22 with Flechette as most of the time you can just pick the ammo pouch from the just killed enemy

[stable sail]

No fobs, no supply drops, no AAS/RAAS, no hardcore focus on squad tactics

[eager spire]

If you like Squad then yeah it’s a fine game, but it’s not like Battlefield, and I feel like trying to sell it as “it’s just like Battlefield” is just a bad misrepresentation of it.

[low timber]

And the ammo pouch gives you 50% of what’s the magazines capacity, as it’s 10 you get 5 per pouch

[arctic grove]

Ehhh fuck it basically 2042 is gonna be the next free ps plus game in March if anyone doesn’t know

[drowsy shuttle]

Thanks dice to put me on a rush xl game with only 8 tickets left. Very naice

[low timber]

Gonna get the NVK-S22 to T1 tomorrow as I only need 54 kills

[stable sail]

Yeah nah aint no way you played longer than 5 minutes if you think its closer to Squad in gameplay lol

[low timber]

And then I’ve T1’d every S3 weapon

[stable sail]

Got over 1k hours in Squad and its definitely NOT closer.

[eager spire]

You’re really gonna make me get up to get to my PC huh

[low timber]

Only have 2 Vanilla weapons and 1 S2 weapon left after S22 as well

[pastel loom]

only thing I liked in the reveal

[stable sail]

I mean might as well if you're gonna chat up shite about how its closer to Squad gameplay than it is BF lol

[edgy oriole]

i already got my battlebit strat. lmg until you unlock the vector. then eat

[stable sail]

I'm talking gameplay not the features surrounding your M key, voice chat, and how you have to badnage to stop bleeding

[arctic grove]

Well I liked the sf6 news

And seeing RE4 was nice

[stable sail]

Or how you gotta place a rally to spawn semi-perm

lmao

[eager spire]

Active member of the discord from about the second playtest, 60 hours in game, i've seen the discussions about the game and the direction it's going in, it's clearly going for more Squad like gameplay than Battlefield.

That is the design intent of the game, that is what the developer wants to do.

[stable sail]

Oki wants a HC mode but it's definitely not the design intent lol

[pastel loom]

the gunplay may be fun for playing the og
but i can't stand this genre

[stable sail]

Sure previous iterations

Not this time around though lol

[eager spire]

The design intent sure ain't fucking Battlefield

[fervent rose]

it looks faster paced than squad and slower paced than battlefield

[eager spire]

And trying to play it like Battlefield only results in disappointment, which is why I stopped playing. It's not my kind of thing.

[stable sail]

its definitely on pace w/ BF speed wise

[eager spire]

Acting like it's equivalent or even similar is not a good representation of the game.

[stable sail]

I mean discounting it as NOT EVEN similar is wild

[eager spire]

It's closer to Squad in it's design. Like I said, Squad is why it even exists at all.

[stable sail]

I mean its closer to BF2 in its design but thats just me

[eager spire]

Even then it's not going to appeal to the average modern BF player.

[stable sail]

And Oki can implement all the PR he wants into it lol

I mean it will

[fervent rose]

it doesnt look like bf2 at all to me

[eager spire]

It's not.

[stable sail]

I'm not talking looks

[fervent rose]

wheres the jumping around like madmen

[stable sail]

It looks like Roblox we all know that

[fervent rose]

it aint bf2

[stable sail]

vehicle spawn ins def more representative of BF2

everything there at base at start

Obviously you can't only spawn on SL

[eager spire]

The average modern BF player has not played BF2 at all. I find it very unlikely that they're gonna find gameplay like that with Squad bandaging mechanics any fun at all.

[stable sail]

I mean gunplay is close af to BF5 or 2042 lol

[eager spire]

Gunplay close to 2042

are you stupid?

[stable sail]

I mean are you

[eager spire]

mate you've lost it, what the fuck are you on

[fervent rose]

how does battlebit do gunplay

[eager spire]

You've invented a world where 2042 has recoil, what the hell?

[eager spire]

Everything has a lot of recoil

[stable sail]

https://youtu.be/BuAXPnH_WXs

[stable sail]

Just watch Decimal

That's all you gotta do

[fervent rose]

yea that certainly looks more gamer than Squad

[eager spire]

projectile based with a lot of recoil, hipfire exists and is tied to the center of the screen

[fervent rose]

but also slower than bf

[stable sail]

A bit slower than BF but not by much

It def aint Squad gamepaly

It got Squad features

Smoking that good shit if you think thats Squad gameplay

lmao

[fervent rose]

i never made it past the tutorial in squad

hell nah too slow and clunky

[stable sail]

Even comp leagues in Squad are slow af

[midnight mesa]

very tactical

[eager spire]

I say it's closer to Squad than being something that the modern BF player would actually like playing. The existence of the bandaging mechanic alone prevents that.

[stable sail]

oh please lmao

[copper fulcrum]

Also not to mention the magazine system and just how vehicles work in general

[eager spire]

also yeah that

[fervent rose]

yea it has milsim elements

but the core infantry pacing looks much faster than squad

[stable sail]

Vehicles are ez bonk mode idk what you're talking about

[copper fulcrum]

Friendly Fire, proximity chat...

[stable sail]

Friendly fire?

what friendly fire?

there aint no friendly fire

Proximity chat is funny at times

Thats a bonus

[eager spire]

mostly because there isn't a slowdown and delay between every jump you do.

[stable sail]

And you dont walk 0.0001 mph

theres no stamina

[eager spire]

which seems like something that i wouldn't be surprised if that was changed in the future.

[stable sail]

Maybe in HC mode but that aint regular Battlebit lol

[silk surge]

The moment that I heard that the Season 5 map is in active production, I started feeling 90% certain that Season 5 is the final one.

Season 5 will start approx 14 weeks from now, and they would have roughly 28 weeks to produce Season 6 if they started right now (14 if they start after Season 5 launch). That seems like a very tight window to do so while also dropping additonal content for Season 4 and 5 like mid-season events, QoL & bugfixes.

[copper fulcrum]

Especially since it's going for a more milsim/realism sorta feel

[lilac dust]

Season 5 map looks HOT

[stable sail]

SE05 is prob gonna be last real season

MAYBE a 6

[eager spire]

Honestly i feel like the bandaging should be in HC, the mechanic being in core just makes the gameplay more clunky than it should be.

[stable sail]

maybe

Bandaging is fine

[eager spire]

But it's just like Battlefield tho, PSG said so

[copper fulcrum]

Yeah I disagree

[midnight mesa]

i think i heard one of the developers say that a map usually takes 6 months to a year to finish

so i doubt there will be a new map after season 5

[stable sail]

Same dude who said gameplay is just like Squad

lmao

i cant

[copper fulcrum]

Saying 'it's more like squad' doesn't equal 'just like squad'

[eager spire]

like i can appreciate that it's a well made game that technically works, It's just not my thing, and i don't think it ever will be.

[copper fulcrum]

Yeah I'm not into the more realistic sorta games, even if the graphics are cartoon

[stable sail]

Battlebit is def not milsim lol. Has milsim game features that milsim games like to include

But it is clearly not milsim until HC mode comes out lmao

[copper fulcrum]

And those features are features I don't like

[stable sail]

I already said it has Squad features, but that gameplay is much closer to BF than it is Squad lol

[granite island]

I wonder how much the player count will increase with the 2042 ps plus thing

[stable sail]

I aint waiting for logi, FOBs which is the main gameplay element of Squad to push poisitions lmao

[eager spire]

you said it was more like BF2, like i said, most people who play Battlefield these days have never played BF2, and honestly, I don't think they'd like that game that much anyway.

[copper fulcrum]

I don't see how it's closer to BF though

[stable sail]

Eh in design choice its closer to BF2, in straight gameplay, gunplay, pace its closer to BF5/2042

[arctic grove]

With ps plus it’s how it got me into bf5 lol

[eager spire]

again i'd like to live in whatever alternate universe you've created where 2042 has recoil

[granite island]

I can finally download the ps5 version for free

I accidentally bought the ps4 version when season 2 started

[edgy oriole]

thats a rip

[midnight mesa]

2042 is gonna be featured in ps plus?

[edgy oriole]

i know someone that accidentally bought the xbox one version and he tried selling it on facebook for months

[granite island]

Yeah as a essential

[stable sail]

I don't see how adding recoil delineates from it playing closer to BF but i'll let the 2042 convo keep going since thats this chat

[midnight mesa]

sweet

get that player count up

[eager spire]

because 2042’s gunplay has more in common with BF4, being more spread based than recoil based

[stable sail]

it's equally both... There's recoil, accuracy, control, etc.

Bloom, sway, and recoil all work in Battlebit but it's not like ti's crazy a lot lol

[eager spire]

Plus BF doesn’t have bandaging or having to manually interact with medkits to heal, or separate mags

[stable sail]

You dont separate mags, you only combine

and bandaging isnt that big of a deal

[eager spire]

If there’s bloom in BBR I never noticed it.

[stable sail]

its not like Squad where your screen goes black and fucking white lmao

[copper fulcrum]

You know he's talking about the fact that Battlebit having a magazine system and Battlefield has just a stockpile of bullets so why bring it up anyways?

[eager spire]

Bandaging is an annoying mechanic that only serves to make it so you can’t just push forward constantly even if you’re winning fights

[stable sail]

I don't find those to delineate from the gameplay comparison

Doesn't affect my judgment whatsoever

[eager spire]

I just don’t think Battlebit is what Battlefield players would want, and I feel like people trying to be like “OH BATTLEBIT IS THE NEXT BATTLEFIELD” is misrepresenting the game and setting up for people to be disappointed.

[royal swan]

Remember ww3

[eager spire]

Christ, WW3.

[royal swan]

Battlefield killer

[eager spire]

Failed to launch 3 times.

[midnight mesa]

killed itself

[granite island]

Ww3

Forgot about that game

[eager spire]

Everyone did.

[granite island]

It looked good

Had potential

[eager spire]

But then it didn’t.

[royal swan]

It died, went free, came back, and died again

[eager spire]

Well it died, went into a “Closed Beta” state, died again, and then went free, and died again.

[granite island]

Maybe if they released it on console it would've still been somewhat alive

[eager spire]

It failed to launch 3 times, which is impressive because most games only do that once

[eager spire]

Nah I don’t think console players would’ve liked it either

[lean dew]

the only fun that i got was the 2nd week, were you can go into the enemy spawn, and kill evryone

[royal swan]

Ww3 is not coming back

Not with that terrible 3rd party launcher

Or the terrible matchmaking

[patent prism]

It's somewhat interesting how people will run straight past you while you takedown their friendlies in the middle of like 6 of them.

[royal swan]

Or the god awful performance

[lean dew]

cubeworld is better than ww3 imo

[young wharf]

The closest competitor to battlefield I could realistically see would be a planetside 3 or something like that.

And that wouldn't even do it since it's not identically like battlefield

[eager spire]

Or the lackluster map or mode selection

[granite island]

What platform is planet side on

[young wharf]

PC

[patent prism]

PC

[granite island]

Oh

[young wharf]

Some say PS4, but it's not

[eager spire]

At least there aren’t people trying to sell Planetside as a Battlefield competitor.

[young wharf]

At least I don't consider it still existant on PS4

[young wharf]

Doesn't mean when 2042's launch flopped we didn't get a good size new player influx

[eager spire]

people are gonna try to find something to play.

Personally I don’t care for Planetside, the massive player counts do nothing for me.

[young wharf]

Also if planetside did try to make a battlefield type game then it would be competing, but would also lose the people who played planetside for planetside

[eager spire]

I don’t care that there are a thousand players on a server.

[young wharf]

I usually only do 24v24 fights

Anything bigger usually is overload

[royal swan]

Yeah competition between video game franchises don't work very well

[young wharf]

Anything over 48v48 is absolute hell

[patent prism]

I've tried to get into it soooo many times, but the amount of infiltrators with invisibility cloaks running around with knives is just ridiculous nor is the community particularly accepting or forgiving for new players.

[stray surge]

Battlefield 2042 made a complete flip from when it was first released. Kudos to the devs that never gave up!

[young wharf]

Become only one wins in the end

And usually by a big margin

Remember when Xbox basically said crossfire X was gonna be a cod killer

[eager spire]

Yeah, comes with expectations and such that would cause problems, which is why I don’t like how people talk about Battlebit Remastered

[young wharf]

Flashlight

[eager spire]

Because saying it’s the next Battlefield has a lot of expectations.

[young wharf]

Also the one shot knife is gone

[patent prism]

That like 2% of players use.

[patent prism]

Huh, neat.

[young wharf]

Not my fault they don't equip it on secondary

I think they have nerfed cloaker multiple times in this past year

Air too, in terms of ATG

[eager spire]

And then the actual game is simple movement, guns with a lot of recoil and squad ammo and bandaging mechanics, which are not things that the average BF player wants, which would cause them to be disappointed

[patent prism]

Might have to give it another go then.

[young wharf]

Wait

The game is not in the best place compared to half a year ago.

The ten year update kinda screwed stuff up.

Wait a month or two for the construction overall to come out and for the problems to 10 year update caused to be fixed.

This game has more spaghetti code than an Italian restaurant

[patent prism]

Aight, thanks for the heads up.

[young wharf]

Also there are 4 factions now

[patent prism]

Yeah, NS.

[young wharf]

Yeah, they overhauled NS about a year ago

[patent prism]

I wish there was something like Planetside 2 but for current era warfare stuff, not high-tech space shit.

[young wharf]

They don't really do lis's anymore, where they release something and it's broken for like a year to forever

[royal swan]

Oh a good example of video game competition fucking itself is the WW2 fps genre

[young wharf]

Yeah, the problem is planetside like games usually need their own unique engine made for said game.

And a lot of planning to make the game function

[young wharf]

I'm so tired of WW2 games, at least when all games were scifi they were different in terms of arsenal and setting

[patent prism]

Absolutely, there's a lot of considerations and tough decisions involved including engine problems, but I still wish for something like it.

[young wharf]

Daybreak will have to replace PS2 eventually, probably they'll just get Microsoft to fund it in return for putting in on xbox or something

If you need funding you usually go to Xbox or Epic, and no one likes Epic

And they flat out left sony, so I would count on any cooperation between them

[arctic grove]

Dozer should get a recoil control buff

Cuz he's heavy

[drowsy rose]

I do not want tanks with thermals at all

[arctic grove]

And another's thing

[young wharf]

I wish I could deploy dozer's sheild as cover

[arctic grove]

Did u know u can T1 assault with bots

It doesn't stop at second mastery

[drowsy rose]

This is a fact lol.
People wanna have some weird realism Battlefield

[arctic grove]

I wonder if Bf 2042 is being free for ps plus means if it’s gonna be free for steam players at some point….

[young wharf]

Bots is basically what most people's playtime was at launch from what I experienced.

Because Jesus the kills.

[drowsy rose]

I kinda wish bots were like Battlefront 2

in that they just populate the area

[young wharf]

No, because gamepass and plus get them money in some sort of way

[arctic grove]

Understandable

[young wharf]

If it ever becomes free on pc, you bet you will have to go through their own launcher

[kindred flint]

wait a minute...this season 4 map is at an abandoned SA facility but has a working nuclear reactor?

[arctic grove]

Yes

[young wharf]

Can I c5 it and end the match?

[kindred flint]

based response

[arctic grove]

Wait if it’s abandoned why is the nuclear shit still there

Who still operating it??

[young wharf]

They forgor 💀

[arctic grove]

Ain’t no way….

[patent prism]

Dr. Heinz Doofenshmirtz

[young wharf]

Some guy named Dan checks in on it every week

[drowsy rose]

Russia Moment

[remote kiln]

you already do, EA play is embedded into the games installation & the subscription for EA play is on steam too, so you can download it for free

[arctic grove]

Still tho if the Americans are out to hunt for exodus I wonder if they’re using the facility to build a small nuke and blow exodus up?

[young wharf]

Also I was right with my thought that they'd only go as far with the specialists as they are required to, as in season 4 will be the last one

[kindred flint]

lol..this development update video showing how there are 14 specialists .. all they gotta do is add 1 medic and 1 engineer to make it 4x4 💀

[arctic grove]

Tho they would have to know the base of operations (which is always on the move since it’s a ship)

[young wharf]

But you don't browse their store, you just get redirected

[remote kiln]

? yes you do

[kindred flint]

"expanding on skins and cosmetics giving you more ways to stand out on the battlefield" uhhhhh

[drowsy rose]

I don't really get how Blasco will ever work thou. If she's an ambush specialist but has such a infinite range with her funny device too

[arctic grove]

Nah let’s make it odd to piss em off

Lmao

[drowsy rose]

How is he exactly a ambush specialist?

Who knows

[young wharf]

No more, they said so in update vid

[kindred flint]

it doesnt have infinite range

[arctic grove]

She’s a ambush specialist because it’s her specialty to sneak up on ppl

Hell she’s the one that led the operation in Panama

[drowsy rose]

No that was the round start tornado

[young wharf]

Motion detection doesn't work on hee

[kindred flint]

lore for operators in 2042

[young wharf]

As a casper main, motion detection not working scares the hell out of me

[dapper river]

she's so sneaky she didn't appear in the S2 trailer

[remote kiln]

the idea is you place her gadget in areas which aren't seen by the enemy so you can actually interrupt lock ons without it being instantly shot

[patent prism]

YES, I have found another Casper main

[arctic grove]

Ye

[young wharf]

Drone go bzzzzzzzzz

[arctic grove]

Also was the claymore off for her but on for everyone else in the trailer?

[drowsy rose]

In comes sundance because she's entirely quiet just swooping in like the eagle from LOTR

[arctic grove]

Bc no lasers were showing for her

[young wharf]

Casper is a work from home specialist

[kindred flint]

that was supposed to showcase the claymore not detecting her?

but how did the other allies sneak past too

[remote kiln]

yes, her passive means she can bypass trigger activations for sensors

[drowsy rose]

I just don't think it's a very good gadget idea especially for someone that's recon you'd have think it would go to a support or engineer

[arctic grove]

They walked around

[young wharf]

Please don't tell me this carries over to turrets

[dapper river]

I used to "main" Casper when his main draws were broken shit like C5 drone and drone riding 🤣

[drowsy rose]

Metal Detectors wont give me away anymore

[arctic grove]

Oh so it appears off for her ok

I thought the lasers would still be on

[patent prism]

I actually rarely use the drone since they updated the game so it forces you out of the interface when you take damage.

[kindred flint]

the turret that is already useless?

[remote kiln]

there isn't a detection which will actually find her

[kindred flint]

nothing of value was lost then

[patent prism]

I used to assault deploy that bitch.

[remote kiln]

even motion sensors won't pick her up

[drowsy rose]

*granted this just my opinion of yeah this bound to happen when they were more restricted to the speicalist system

[arctic grove]

Wait so does that mean Camila can sneak into a international airport?

[drowsy rose]

WRONG

Your eyeballs

[remote kiln]

[drowsy rose]

Remember

[drowsy shuttle]

So the irish APS has some limit to destroy projectiles? Or bugs out sometimes and doesnt destroy? Because many times doesnt destroy normal frag nades...

[young wharf]

My favorite thing to do as casper is to annoy the guy who deploys the turret

[arctic grove]

No Spainish

[drowsy rose]

[dapper river]

I think it's been like that since launch, when your player takes damage while you're in the drone, you exit drone view.

[remote kiln]

technically Rao can find her but that's ehh practically

[arctic grove]

I wonder if Rao can still hack her

[patent prism]

I swear it hasn't been the case until recently.

[remote kiln]

he can

[arctic grove]

I doubt it

oh ok

Nvm

[drowsy rose]

I would think Paik would be one the few that could counter her too

[dapper river]

just find a better hiding spot then lol

[arctic grove]

But paik can’t do shit abt her can she

[remote kiln]

yeah paik can't do much

[patent prism]

Fair.

[young wharf]

What is the point of Rao anymore, his ability is replicated by a grenade

[arctic grove]

YESSS I FUCKING HATED FIGHTING AGAINST THEM

sneaking behind lines and then tha paik sees u

[drowsy rose]

I LOVE PAIK

[arctic grove]

It’s like cmon

[patent prism]

Probably just going to switch from being a Casper main to Blasco main because I like to flank.

[arctic grove]

Bro let me flank

[drowsy rose]

Ranged Hax

[young wharf]

Does Paik still have that thing were when you wallhack you are spotted for all

[remote kiln]

infantry wide scans + passive detection of enemies when shot aren't in a gadget

[drowsy rose]

I think so

[young wharf]

I can already feel the sniper bullet enter my skull

[remote kiln]

neither are weapon lock ons

[drowsy rose]

"helo?"

"Your computer have virus"

as he hacks you and BSOD your PC

[patent prism]

last words heard:
thank you come again

[drowsy rose]

Now that's just sterotyping

[young wharf]

Also the ambush specialist might dethrone irish for best specialist for stationary vehicles

[patent prism]

Damn right it is.

[drowsy rose]

Paik Recon 1,832 2.291

[arctic grove]

Ima make Camila top my fav specialist

Which is lis I think

[drowsy rose]

I kinda like Rao, but

eh

I hate boris and Sundance

[arctic grove]

Yea I have 5000 kills on her I think

[drowsy rose]

I do not vibe with her play style

[arctic grove]

Understandable

[drowsy rose]

I alos just

[arctic grove]

Some like a specific way

[drowsy rose]

1. Hate Sundance,Boris,Angel,Crawford's designs

[arctic grove]

I can flank easier with her tho thank god

[drowsy rose]

Ironically Crawford is my most played engineer

[young wharf]

My honest reaction to this information:

[arctic grove]

Wdym Sundance gets cool skins

[arctic grove]

I hate u

[drowsy rose]

Some of their are cring

[young wharf]

I use the railgun tank and place two of these at the front corners

[kindred flint]

daily reminder these have no cool down between shots or limited ammo

[drowsy rose]

God I love the Railgun tank

Nothing is better

[arctic grove]

Good tank

[young wharf]

If only there was a long range weapon

[arctic grove]

Destroyer

[drowsy rose]

Kill heli goobers

kill jet sometimes

[arctic grove]

Snipers????

[drowsy rose]

good life

[young wharf]

I usually kill them as lis with the railgun

[arctic grove]

Oh

[kindred flint]

if the irish isnt a total moron... ok im reaching i know, you put it out of sight lines

[young wharf]

Railgun seemed like the best lis weapon

[arctic grove]

I just use the m60 on her

The rpt will prob be a better pick tho

[young wharf]

Because lis operates in another timezone usually

[kindred flint]

remember that time we still done have an rpk or m27 in 2042?

[young wharf]

Casper and lis are work from home

[arctic grove]

Fuck those guns

Type 88 gang

[patent prism]

RPK is being phased out iirc (could be wrong), Marine Corps are already eyeing the XM5 to replace the M27 and M38 ("oo, shiny")

[kindred flint]

the fuck you just say

we got a single action revolver, 45-70, pump shotguns

[arctic grove]

Tbh I wouldn’t mind another “light” mg

[dapper river]

Lol, Rao's been my new main ever since the class update dropped. His gadget is just so OP when it wallhacks an entire enemy squad

[arctic grove]

Like a lmg that’s really light and has fast reload

[kindred flint]

clearly we can justify small mag sized LMGs

[arctic grove]

Like uhhhhh what is that m4 lmg mw2 got now?

[arctic grove]

I want that in 2042 would be a nice small lmg

[kindred flint]

i actually thought this new lmg was a magazine fed weapon not a box...but i was mistaken

[arctic grove]

Yea that shit box bro

High bullet velocity tho

[kindred flint]

that angled foregrip like the uhh... pkp has

does that mean we dont have under barrel options?!

[arctic grove]

Nah we do

They just don’t care abt the pkp

[young wharf]

So like the NS-15?

[arctic grove]

Ehhhhh

[young wharf]

Compact and lmg don't mix my guy

[arctic grove]

I was more or less thinking abt the 556 Icarus

it’s literally a m4 with a box mag

[fervent rose]

basically how the xm8 works in 2042

[arctic grove]

Yea another weapon like the xm8

I like that gun bc it feels quick

[fervent rose]

its reload is pretty op

but its the one lmg you run into ammo issues on

[patent prism]

I just want an LWRC IC-A5.

Is it unique? No. Does it look cool? Yes.

[arctic grove]

Very cool

[arctic grove]

That could be a legendary skin for the M5A3

[young wharf]

Also I think that airburst thing needs a change to be harder to use at range

100m seems like a bit much

[dapper river]

556 Icarus, known as the "Fightlite MCR" in real life

[patent prism]

I wouldn't mind it.

[arctic grove]

P much

[patent prism]

You know what I really wish Battlefield had? Gun customization akin to Medal of Honor: Warfighter.

[arctic grove]

Idk what that is

[patent prism]

That was an interesting approach.

[patent prism]

https://youtu.be/vRyxSvPny6I?t=70

The UI was shit, but the fundamental idea was amazing.

[young wharf]

I find it funny that AP ammo does less damage to infantry

[patent prism]

I find it funny that AP ammo does not penetrate Dozer's shield.

[young wharf]

Neither does a literal railgun

[patent prism]

Annoyance.

[young wharf]

I don't even think the maul one shots the shield

Dozer is just rectangle captain America

[arctic grove]

Soooo cod?

Jk

Looks cool

[patent prism]

Tbh Medal of Honor: Warfighter had a (in my opinion) much better approach to classes/specialists than BF2042.

[arctic grove]

Now or at launch 2042?

[patent prism]

Now, I didn't play before December 2022

Well, the Beta I did play and consequently cancelled my preorder, but other than that, not before Dec -22

[inner nacelle]

do we know yet what we will be getting in further seasons instead of new specialist?

[young wharf]

I also like how the ranger has it's own category all to itself in collections where 99 percent of people can do nothing with it

[young wharf]

Map

That's all they've said no far

[inner nacelle]

2 new maps than?

[young wharf]

Unlikely

[drowsy shuttle]

1 map and probably hourglass rework

[young wharf]

Don't be surprised if they start going heavy on vault stuff

[inner nacelle]

well thats not instead, map was always coming with season

[inner nacelle]

i wouldnt mind more vaulted maps in rotation ngl

[drowsy shuttle]

Thats my bet.. vault improvements, bug fixes and weapon balances.. i dont expect much more than this for Season 5

[young wharf]

I wouldn't be surprised if season 5 is the last, or at least last major update

[inner nacelle]

yeah i could see it but hope not, even if 2042 was a sht show, kinda enjoying it now.

[arctic grove]

gg No more specialists after this one. They're going to the next project

[patent prism]

Pretty curious what the next BF is gonna be.

[arctic grove]

Might aswell stop playing now, no sense doing battlepass farming skins for a game they stop supporting.

[patent prism]

Or, revolutionary thought, you could play for the fun of it.

[young wharf]

It's much better now yes, but it cannot be making near the money they want

[arctic grove]

Killed my excitement for season 4 unfortunately. Hope they can develop a competent product from the launch next time.

[young wharf]

Lol, lets not get ahead of ourselves

[patent prism]

Anyways, 00:46 AM, I'm going to sleep, night

[inner nacelle]

how so, honestly each season is more interesting to me as game gets more qol

[arctic grove]

No further support, no new players, playerbase dying off.

[inner nacelle]

not confirmed yet (altho very likely) aaaand with that thinking you might have stopped playing each BFs altogether since they are supported for couple of years at best. Whats the point of even trying than. Just play for fun, as long as u have one.

[kindred flint]

PS plus giving the game for free next month..might get a new player or 2 at the most

[young wharf]

Ultimate editon is the only reason it got seasonal content at all because if they didn't they would get sued

[arctic grove]

Bro let’s not draw conclusions

And see what happens

[young wharf]

2042 is the first BF game I've played that was still actively getting content updates

[inner nacelle]

S5 is separate from that no, they will complete their edition obligation by S4

[young wharf]

And season 5 gets a map and them saying "see we are still supporting it, now go buy some skins"

[kindred flint]

i think they were saying post season 5 were going to just throw skins at you to buy

yeah good luck with that

[worldly wolf]

maybe new guns?

prob like what, 1 every 5month

[arctic grove]

Still I think the game gonna get a year 2

[young wharf]

Yeah, basically after 5 it's like a gun here and there, some vault stuff, and a lot of paid cosmetics for your 70 dollar game

[arctic grove]

Year 3 tho that is a seriously big if

[young wharf]

For full season content?

[inner nacelle]

so like any other fps

[arctic grove]

P much why stop now

Game doesnt even have a urban map. Another field with a structure on it every season doesn't cut it.

[young wharf]

Because they all die off quick nowadays as they are more interested in selling you a cool outfit than gameplay

[arctic grove]

U haven’t even played the map man💀

[arctic grove]

I have played the current ones.

[kindred flint]

hes right though...the game really needs a totally infantry focused map

[young wharf]

I mean, look at warzone 2

That game's playcount has plummited since launch, same as infinite, and crossfire X no longer exists

[kindred flint]

those are the best maps in BF anyways because fuck vehicles

[arctic grove]

Looks at stranded

[young wharf]

You mean the cargo ship?

[kindred flint]

people are unaware of what totally means til

[arctic grove]

Add around the same amount of urban maps like there are open field maps now and I'll be good on maps.

But urban maps would expose the lack of destruction.

[young wharf]

We just need a map that is a big skyscrapper and nothing else

[inner nacelle]

ye games are usually sht these days. But we used to only get map packs n new weapons so as long as core game is there thats literally what normally you want. New maps and guns. They dont have much left in terms of previous BF systems to bring back. Squad management etc.
(Other than game being pretty scuffed with animation and destruction)

[arctic grove]

Atleast we got soldiers going wohoo when they do a jump in a jeep amiright

[young wharf]

Destruction is likely an issue with frostbite I believe the new one is 5

[arctic grove]

What?

[young wharf]

Hopefully the new engine can do good destruction and it was just the new devs having no idea how to work it properly

[fervent rose]

mackay resisting the urge to yell woo, impossible challenge

[inner nacelle]

yeah, dont see that to improve and its a shame as this BF is just rubbish in that area and i truly miss good BFV/4 destruction.

[arctic grove]

What he makes a voice line or something?

[fervent rose]

he does it when you get air in vehicles yea lol

any ramp basically

[arctic grove]

Oh

Cool ig

[fervent rose]

i wish there was a specialist volume slider

[arctic grove]

I still don’t have a problem wit it

The chatter they do mid combat is cool. Its military speak. But they missed the tone on all these one liners.

Where are y’all hearing these?

Unless I’m not paying attention to em

[rocky kraken]

they havent said anything about the games end

so idk

[young wharf]

I mean, they already shut specialists up for the end game

I remember how obnoxious that was at launch

[hexed mango]

[arctic grove]

It is not understandable to me how they thought this was a good idea. I have no faith in this company anymore to do anything good anymore.

[hexed mango]

dont be sad

[arctic grove]

Can someone tell me why russian naval infantry has a grey camo in this game

And US has green camo

[young wharf]

Because specialists are leftovers from hazard zone

And Apex did well

[hexed mango]

i dont think specialists were from hz

they went into the game with the intention of having specialists throughout

[inner nacelle]

the game was supposed to be HZ only if i remember right

[arctic grove]

Why didnt they learn their lesson from the battlefield 5 battle royale

[hexed mango]

it is quite possible, and is my belief, that they thought hz would be better than it is
hence, some of the level design choices are due to hz

but hz was never intended as the only mode for the game, it was intended to be much more prominent though

[arctic grove]

no one wants that in bf

[arctic grove]

Ur still believing that theory or whatever

[young wharf]

Remember 2042 was supposed to be only hazard zone, then in pre production a trained chimp told the executives that it would be a terrible idea

So then they attached a battlefield game to it

[hexed mango]

it was not supposed to be hz only, hz was just supposed to be more prominent

[young wharf]

Even then, they were made with HZ in mind

[arctic grove]

With the tone of bf5 they also got a lot of criticisms, but they do that clown tone again in 2042. They are resistant to learning. Complete tone deaf. Why wouldn't they do another clown game for the 3rd time?

[hexed mango]

specialists were always intended for this game, not just for hz

[inner nacelle]

what ya mean, BFV was pretty good game, just didnt have lot of content and had an absolute garbage marketing.

[hexed mango]

theyre talking about firestorm

or atleast for the br thing mentioned previously

[hexed mango]

this

i dont think bfv has a clown tone tbh, but firestorm was def not great

[arctic grove]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1003428984194859059/1078063425546100877/Falck_me.png @still vault Not a cat but still cursed

[hexed mango]

i dont know why they decided to go about making hz, cause firestorm shouldve proved it was a failed concept

[hexed mango]

id buy

[inner nacelle]

cause BR was on its high

everyone wanted a piece of that cake

[hexed mango]

yeah which is why they decided to make HZ, which was a poor decision

[arctic grove]

BF5 was too arcadey. All these red dot sights in ww2, japanese on western front, jumpshotting. Its a clown game.

[arctic grove]

Didnt bfv sold us a clown skin??

[hexed mango]

🤡

[arctic grove]

bf1 was the last good one.

[hexed mango]

bf1's spread was terrible

[arctic grove]

so immersive.

[hexed mango]

one of the only things i dislike about the game

[young wharf]

EA executives chasing market fads, everyone wanted their own overwatch and to sell a ton of skins for their super unique and wacky characters

Even Ubi almost did it with tom clancy

[inner nacelle]

i get that, but what do you want a BF game or a realistic shooter like Hell Let Loose. Literally no attachements was a big complain towards BF1.
it just comes down to you either going to have a fun game or go full immersion and be a simulator.

[young wharf]

And I'm not talking R6S

[arctic grove]

Bf1 gunplay wasn’t it for me tbh

[inner nacelle]

which bf shouldnt be

[arctic grove]

And I can barely find matches on that game

[eager spire]

honestly it would be funny if EA tracked down everyone that complained about the BFV trailer and just gave them that skin

and they can't remove it

[young wharf]

Battlefield like planetside is supposed to be a nice mix between serious in story, setting, and some gameplay with other parts of gameplay being intentional fun bullshit.

The only people that seem to understand this is the marketing team

[young wharf]

I forget if it was BF5 of COD WW2 where you could be a black female german

[arctic grove]

The thing is battlefield has like 10 games in the past that were fantastic and built the franchise. I don't understand why they are unwilling to give the classic formula a shot by sticking to what has worked in the past. Instead they make the same stupid mistake of trying to reinvent the wheel and land at 4k playercount.

2nd game in a row

[arctic grove]

Both I’m pretty sure

And idc

[copper ice]

they want to make extra money

[young wharf]

I can't imagine how much they lost with 2042

[eager spire]

BF1 suffered from a severe problem of trying to appeal to two different crowds, but in doing so, creating something that is just generally not great.

[arctic grove]

2nd game in a row?

[copper ice]

[arctic grove]

2042 has the best battlefield soundtrack though

They made it right back, trust

[inner nacelle]

bruh what

[arctic grove]

Wait

[young wharf]

I had EA stock, post 2042 was pain

[arctic grove]

i mean it

[copper ice]

[young wharf]

Scratches my nails on a chalkboard and kicks a metal trashcan

I just made a new 2042 track

[drowsy shuttle]

Irish tier 1 ✅

[arctic grove]

Coffey, did you mean 2042 was the 2nd game to change a bunch of things and have them end up unpopular, or that there was another Battlefield game that hit 4k active players on steam

[arctic grove]

It’s literally not even that bad lmao

That’s like one track, that being the actual 2042 version of the Battlefield theme

[young wharf]

It's not good either, and to have it playing at launch with all the specialists quipping was just polarizing

[arctic grove]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0elqiIWiMWs

Who cares anyways, the music fits the decrepit world the game is built on after all

The manifest theme at roundstart

[rocky kraken]

i can say

[inner nacelle]

pretty sure BF1 was a success, hence their continued to BFV, but clowned their marketing.
BF1 is one of my most favorites after BF4 maybe. The atmosphere and all out war were fantastic, sure gunplay was different so theres that but not bad. Plus i think its good to have something different every once in a while.
How long it would take if another BF after 4 was moder combat and being the same, people would complain that its a same game.

[young wharf]

2042 is a dark the world is falling apart setting, meanwhile sundance wants round 2 and angel does it again

[rocky kraken]

that 2042 music is definitley not the best

[arctic grove]

2042 music barely worked in game at launch tbh, not to mention the actual 2042 theme does not play in game

[eager spire]

technically yes but BF1 was not a great game.

[rocky kraken]

that annoys me

main menu should play theme song

[arctic grove]

Main menu needs Kicking the Bucket from the ultimate edition soundtrack

[eager spire]

Gunplay in BF1 was not that different than BF4. It was just worse because suppression existed, and also, the slide nerfs were absolutely unnecessary.

[arctic grove]

This was a stupid decision on DICEs part

But that doesn’t mean throw out the games theme because…. Someone was on that za

[hexed mango]

ea stock 11/12/2021: $145.44/s
ea stock 12/1/2021: $120.23/s
ea stock today: $110.72/s

[rocky kraken]

hell yeah

[arctic grove]

(only plausible explanation )

2042 soundtrack sounds like the last rusty breath of the modern warmachine on a collapsing planet.

[inner nacelle]

and maps are clean like a new car

[rocky kraken]

oof

[young wharf]

The stupid part is both sides have models for the 4 classes

[rocky kraken]

not really anymore

[arctic grove]

YES. THANK YOU.

[rocky kraken]

kale is still kinda too clean

[arctic grove]

The game would be so much grittier if I just

ugh

im gonna go cry imagining what could’ve been

[rocky kraken]

i think the game was doomed from the start

covid, bad leadership, time cramp

maybe if they got an extra year but like

[copper ice]

screw up ww2
screw up near future
The answer is in the STARS baby we're gonna have battlefield in SPACE

[inner nacelle]

i just wanted BFV to continue past pacific once 2042 was released

[rocky kraken]

I honestly just want the next game to be really good

[arctic grove]

WOHOO

[pine roost]

Actually starting to get somewhat decent streaks now that I’m realising just how many angles there are you need to clear

[rocky kraken]

frostbite 4 may change battlefield forever

[pine roost]

I want this one to be good so it doesn’t feel like a waste of 2 years of constantly checking updates

[rocky kraken]

yehas

buyt

[arctic grove]

If it’s bad I’ll simply just

[rocky kraken]

frostbite 4 increases the changes of it being good

[copper ice]

Relying on this

[rocky kraken]

no guys dont worry

[arctic grove]

Cry again probably

[rocky kraken]

2042 is like vanguard

[inner nacelle]

i dont always pre-order games, but when i do its BF2042

[rocky kraken]

a filler game

[shell ermine]

I'm done buying any MP shooter on release

[rocky kraken]

if you think about it

[copper ice]

i havent bought a game on release in like, 6 years

[rocky kraken]

dice is using 2042 to train devs into being comfortable with frostbite

so we good

[arctic grove]

BF/CoD games are SOOOORTA best to buy like, damn near a year after they’ve been out

[inner nacelle]

marketing for 2042 fooled me well

[rocky kraken]

well

i had been absent from bf5 for a while

i didnt know bf5 was bad

so i was blind sided

[silk jasper]

underground metro i hear for hourglass ?

[copper ice]

never trust marketing

[shell ermine]

Last three games I bought I bought on release and don't regret it, Metroid Prime Remastered, Hogwarts Legacy, and God of War Ragnarok.

I only seem to ever regret buying CODs and BFs on release

[copper ice]

trust the reviews

[pine roost]

I’d just become very sad

[young wharf]

Specialists should have been cosmetics like with BFV, where their abilities would be class-based commonpool with each specialist having a different looking skin for said ability.

Like if the Rao skin would make the hacking device ,which would be some sort of tablet, change into his apple watch

[silk jasper]

Aint no way somebody just said BF1 was trash in here 💀 💀

[rocky kraken]

frosbite 4 should provide tools that make it far easier for devs

[arctic grove]

They always do

[shell ermine]

BF1 was trash

[rocky kraken]

and teh graphics should be the best

[shell ermine]

Bottom three Battlefield game

[pine roost]

Me in a nutshell

[eager spire]

You're damn right I did, what are you gonna do about it

[pine roost]

Haven’t pre ordered a game since Overwatch

[shell ermine]

BF1, Hardline, 2042. Worst of the worst.

[eager spire]

What the fuck.

What the hell is wrong with Hardline?

[rocky kraken]

YEAH

[inner nacelle]

funny thing is i never do, nor do i pre order games (pre ordered maybe like 3 games in my life), i just really thought 2042 will be good as BFV was a bit lacking and wasnt well received.

[rocky kraken]

hardline was good

tf people on

[eager spire]

Hardline played mostly like BF4

and everyone likes BF4

[young wharf]

Hardline is BF4's standalone expansion

[eager spire]

What's the problem?

[shell ermine]

Its theme was garbage

[silk jasper]

Just say you dont like ww1/2

[pine roost]

‘It’s not a war setting’

I’m guessing

[rocky kraken]

the theme was cool

[shell ermine]

And it was janky as fuck

[rocky kraken]

janky in what way

[young wharf]

So like BF4

[arctic grove]

hardline got shit for the past 8 yrs and it was all I ever saw when it came to the game

[eager spire]

except that's not true, I don't mind WW1 and WW2 as settings, I just don't think BF1 was a very good game.

[shell ermine]

Entirely forgettable and mediocre

BF4 is like the 4th worst Battlefield

[arctic grove]

the campaign was interesting but

[copper ice]

Double betrayal 🥹

[arctic grove]

yk

[pine roost]

Does it have bf4’s movement physics?

[rocky kraken]

then whats the best battlefield?

[eager spire]

I think it does?

[rocky kraken]

lol

[pine roost]

Would be cool if it did

[arctic grove]

Battlefield Heroes

[eager spire]

I know airstrafing is still a thing

[shell ermine]

Frostbite? BFV. Overall? BF2

[eager spire]

I don't know if anything else is.

[rocky kraken]

bf5?

[pine roost]

I remember watching it lots when it came out but didn’t have a pc or console to play it on

[rocky kraken]

bf5 isnt fun

[inner nacelle]

if they only didnt name Hardline a BF title than that one might have been a success

[rocky kraken]

its known

[young wharf]

BF2142 best one though mainly because titan mode

[eager spire]

okay but still it was a good game, people were just mean because it dared to be different

[rocky kraken]

i just want live service to be done right

this one map bullshit is sad

and hopefully the next game has great launch maps

[arctic grove]

Live service was good in V

[rocky kraken]

sure

[arctic grove]

Idk what the fuck they’re doing with 2042

[rocky kraken]

but the game was never fun

[pine roost]

I’d rather the launch be great than the live service be good

[inner nacelle]

nah it wasnt good in V

[rocky kraken]

the sun was the biggest enemy in bf5

lol

[young wharf]

Planetside 2 is the only game I've seen live service done right in, though that is likely because it is technically an MMO

[arctic grove]

Oh?

[arctic grove]

What about warframe?

[inner nacelle]

it was inconsistent as hell, 2042 is more consistant than that

[shell ermine]

BFV had all of the core mechanics of a Battlefield game down at launch, it only lacked content.

Compared to 2042 which lacked both core mechanics and content.

Still lacks mechanics

[eager spire]

BFV would've been better if spread to recoil conversion was not in it

[arctic grove]

Well I suppose when it comes to maps and guns they definitely got 2042 as far as numbers go

[copper ice]

[young wharf]

I don't count a new mission to grind 50 times as new content

[shell ermine]

Automatic spammers cry

[arctic grove]

Sheeeeeiit, why I haven’t picked the game up in some years tbh

[arctic grove]

U have to be joking

[eager spire]

heaven forbid there be recoil that can actually be controlled.

[arctic grove]

Well

[young wharf]

Games like warframe and destiny just have you doing the same task over and over again against AI, this is very boring at least to me

[arctic grove]

When I say live service for that game was good, what I mean is the amount of guns and maps the game ended up getting

I did hear it was dripfed in tho

[copper ice]

it was horrendously dripped

[pine roost]

Honestly, yeah. There’s not much else I disliked about it besides that. Granted I only started playing post end of life and did so more than bf1

[arctic grove]

Okay okay

[inner nacelle]

well yeh, but its a big difference of when you getting it, if i need to wait 5 months to get 1 map thaaaaan

[arctic grove]

Why tf is m416s stock like that

It's not even like that in bf3

[eager spire]

what do you mean

[arctic grove]

Like it's in a compact state

I'd like to be able to mod the vault weapons more

[arctic grove]

Understandable

Uhh idk how to explain

[eager spire]

i donno

probably cause they felt like doing that

[copper ice]

i played bfv from a little after release to end of life and it was horrendously dripped

[arctic grove]

Seems like either way we are fooked with this service model

Makes the gun look goofy imo

[copper ice]

Chinese water torture

[inner nacelle]

they mentioned they gonna add skins and more attachements to vault guns or i was dreaming?

[arctic grove]

Unless you buy the game 1 yr later after release or something

[young wharf]

That would take work, I still don't understand why they didn't just reskin vault weapons and claim they are reworks/new weapons

[pine roost]

1 year later IS release.
That’s what sucks

[arctic grove]

True that

[inner nacelle]

BFs in a nutshell

[young wharf]

A Battlefield game launches when they stop supporting it

[inner nacelle]

[pine roost]

The base game should provide lots to do to maintain your interest, then extra stuff is added on top to make it even more enjoyable and fresh

[eager spire]

The first year of a BF game launch is basically a closed beta that you have to pay to get into

because apparently they don't playtest this game otherwise

[young wharf]

I hate modern gaming so much

[pine roost]

But frankly the launch state was anything but, and they’ve had to go through and add the simple features that didn’t make it all the while overhauling literally everything

[eager spire]

NEED I REMIND EVERYONE THAT IT TOOK THEM OVER A YEAR TO ADD SQUAD MANAGEMENT

[young wharf]

Anything "modern" is just the past stuff but worse

[eager spire]

AND IT'S STILL NOT EVEN IN THE GAME IT'S GONNA BE A MID-SEASON 4 THING.

:T

[inner nacelle]

that squad management is still scuffed

[bleak ibex]

Is switching squads really management?

[young wharf]

Remember, it took them half a year to add boxes to a map

[eager spire]

having a choice of what squad you switch into is already better than launch.

[arctic grove]

ok here’s where the iffy stuff starts being said

[copper ice]

squads are abysmal right now

[inner nacelle]

to me the most baffling thing was scoreboard, how in a name of god can you not have a scoreboard in a shooter.

[arctic grove]

yea honestly that’s for ppl who just want new teammates tbh

[pine roost]

Maps - overhauled. Vehicles - overhauled (categories at least). Scoreboard and UI - overhauled. Mouse input - overhauled. The only thing that has really stayed the same is gunplay and movement, which has gotten better due to the mouse fixes and are the main two things that stand out as great aspects for me

[eager spire]

where the game just fucking chooses your squad for you

[bleak ibex]

True @eager spire

[arctic grove]

Ppl would literally change squads for no reason sometimes

[tough folio]

holy hell flashpoint has hella flags

[arctic grove]

All maps do

[eager spire]

consider that the reason is probably just they don't wanna play with someone

[bleak ibex]

Gonna be a beast

[arctic grove]

I personally REEEEEEEEEEEEEAAAALLLLYYYY want some movement and animation changes

@rocky kraken rally with me here

[arctic grove]

Alright nvm the m416 model in 2042 looks nothing like the bf3 one

[eager spire]

That tripping animation bullshit needs to go

[arctic grove]

The 2042 animations are so simple and robotic

[inner nacelle]

yeah its pretty bad compared to likes of BFV, that sht was clean at least.

[eager spire]

it needs to get removed from the game

[arctic grove]

And the new fall damage system

GM will tell y’all better than I can

[copper ice]

2042 movement feels worse than bfv outside of mantling

[pine roost]

True, but in some places that’s a good thing

[arctic grove]

I keep dying as mackay cuz ???

[inner nacelle]

and graphical effects, or atmosphere .... 2042 is lacking still

[tough folio]

nah to the extent of flashpoint, it by far has to have the most or they are all just one flag sectors

[arctic grove]

Eh

[arctic grove]

In general the maps lost a lot of their environments and atmospheres agreed

[pine roost]

The interpolation between different animation states is very rigid

[arctic grove]

Like dawnbreakers concept, design and visuals despite bf4s age is so dope