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#battlefield-2042
limber lodge
i seem to have a little more control over helis but still super wonky
only used jets to go straight so far
radiant prism
hey uh if you wanna follow roads that close, you know there's cars for that right
you can go, yknow, up?
pine roost
they are much easier to fly in this than bf4 that's for sure
pine roost
hey uh if you wanna follow roads that close, you know there's cars for that righ...
gotta use cover
well some things I found useful, although simple, was to fly up fairly high and tilt the heli in a random direction, a bit or roll, some tilt. Then as you fall try to correct yourself to be parallel with the ground
fossil grove
Any milsims
pine roost
or you can bypass that entierly because flight assist exists
copper ice
what does flight assist actually do
pine roost
basically keeps your heli upright constantly
even if you want to aim down
while also adding the dreaded ground magnetism
which you can actually see in the vid funnily enough
also in jets I've found a great way to learn is flying upside down. I learnt to fly in bf1 which has much tighter and snappier controls but I'd fly over the dunes in sinai upsside down, turn around, fly through the arch etc
sour meadow
i gotta ask
been watching levelcap's 2042 streams
and they always get tons of dislikes
like 60-40 or 50-50 like to dislike ratio
but like why
because he's playing the game?
jackfrags plays the game and his reception is fine
he doesn't stream it but he still plays it
limber lodge
i'm not built for this lmao
https://streamable.com/fvnd2i
dunno who levelcap is but jacksfrags is just a wholesome fella
can't see any reason to dislike him
sour meadow
how tf you play battlefield and watch jackfrags and not know who levelcap is
are you new to battlefield
pine roost
I can see you are struggling with the flight assist, turn that off to lessen the effects
drowsy rose
thermal scope took like 30 mins to unlock thou
pine roost
also you'd be better off making a custom portal mode with no ai and instant respawns
remote kiln
i gotta ask
been watching levelcap's 2042 streams
and they always get tons of di...
theyre estimations, not accurate
pine roost
you get to experiment without the pressure of having to wait for respawns
copper ice
1200 kills with the rorsch
🤢
limber lodge
how tf you play battlefield and watch jackfrags and not know who levelcap is
i barely play this game and only ever played bf campaigns before
sour meadow
i barely play this game and only ever played bf campaigns before
oh okay
limber lodge
tried mp back in the day but used to hate it
drowsy rose
i gotta ask
been watching levelcap's 2042 streams
and they always get tons of di...
Considering me a gamer but does he run with a 4 stack?
sour meadow
i see
sour meadow
Considering me a gamer but does he run with a 4 stack?
levelcap?
young wharf
The TV rocket is my favorite sniper
limber lodge
you get to experiment without the pressure of having to wait for respawns
roger roger
drowsy rose
The TV rocket is my favorite sniper
Thats not how you spell RORSCH MK1
young wharf
Thats not how you spell RORSCH MK1
That's for when I can see them
spiral folio
Rail
shell ermine
Is it worth grinding out the M39? I'm not a fan of semiautos in this game
eager spire
i mean it wasn't a problem before the initial change, so why change it?
copper ice
define worth
spiral folio
I use both the rail and lis
fervent rose
Considering me a gamer but does he run with a 4 stack?
nah he doesnt. i think he just has a more hated reputation because he questions dice's almighty and holy balance
copper ice
it has a very silly kill time under 40 metres
spiral folio
If i cant snipe somebody i daw their attention and rocket em
copper ice
and can 1hk to the head
but bad bullet velocity
that being said the svk is still better most of the time
but you can apply that to like
any weapon in any scenario
pine roost
well I didn't play it before the fix, I wouldn't know since it only got added post recoil fix
spiral folio
How recently did they fix it
white dagger
Does the timer for the XP Boost count real time or play time/time spent ingame?
spiral folio
Cause when i tried the m39 the recoil was insane
fervent rose
How recently did they fix it
jan 16 patch
eager spire
hi i'm back home
fervent rose
but m39 still has jarring vertical recoil either way
pine roost
dang I can't actually remember
spiral folio
Hm nah too much for too little reward then for me
pine roost
well the m39 has only been here for like 2 weeks?
spiral folio
Yea i thought maybe they lowered the recoil just now
pine roost
nah they've not done anything to it specifically besides swapping over the supressor damage
spiral folio
For a semi auto its recoil js stupid for the damage it almost does
eager spire
nah i don't think anything's been changed about the M39 other than them flipping the suppressed/non suppressed barrel damage
pine roost
I consider it broken but I've not heard the same sentiment from other people
spiral folio
2 shot head kills is far from op
dapper river
M39 is godly 
eager spire
I consider it broken but I've not heard the same sentiment from other people
Being able to oneshot to the head is a weird trait, but it is apparently intentional.
pine roost
the oneshot headshot is what makes it fun
last oasis
If I buy the battle pass will it end or do I keep it to keep unlocking stuff only started recently but it looks like it will end soon
white dagger
Does the timer for the XP Boost count real time or play time/time spent ingame?
spiral folio
Big scopes are a great way to be seen
dapper river
weird behavior I noticed on the M39: The 7x russian scope's time-to-zoom is way faster than the 8x/10x scopes. Strange!
drowsy rose
Big scopes are a great way to be seen
I'm better than most of them so it doesn't matter
spiral folio
Please standup mr Nesbit
drowsy rose
Why is my reticle so SMOLL
drowsy shuttle
Why is my reticle so SMOLL
Ooff though break
spiral folio
Yea lotta snipers think theyre great. So i spot em with my 4x and by the time they adjust aim I'm down.
drowsy rose
WHY IS IT SMALL LOL
spiral folio
They scope the rock in behind and miss the rocket i launched
Immelman turn and fly down into em
drowsy rose
Amaizng no answer given
drowsy shuttle
You need glasses
spiral folio
Same reason the screen is so blurry and there's two reticules
dapper river
Same reason the screen is so blurry and there's two reticules
two!? wait you guys aren't seeing four reticles?
spiral folio
How could there be 4
dapper river
How could there be 4
spiral folio
My brand!
drowsy shuttle
Rush xl is gonna be nice to get irish tier 1
drowsy rose
You need glasses
Yeah thanks for help I guess
drowsy rose
two!? wait you guys aren't seeing four reticles?
It's like it's super zoomed out
cosmic sequoia
more vehicles per map
last oasis
If I buy the battle pass will it end or do I keep it to keep unlocking stuff only started recently but it looks like it will end soon
arctic grove
If I buy the battle pass will it end or do I keep it to keep unlocking stuff onl...
It ends buddy
limpid pond
Still only see 2
last oasis
It ends buddy
Thought so, ty
pliant acorn
Same reason the screen is so blurry and there's two reticules
Lmao
deft warren
bro i cant play ever since origin left and ea app came in
still vault
ripe hedge
Go fill the survey plzzzzzz
lucid goblet
Go fill the survey plzzzzzz
delicate hollow
Go fill the survey plzzzzzz
I did and I left a little mint to sweeten it for you
deft warren
no idea where it says to troubleshoot the game
looked in pinned messages and launcher
pine roost
is there any way to not have my pc crash entierly when I alt tab?
the icon retreats to the task bar and flashes orange when I click it, but further alt tabbing doesn't work. I have to completely shut the process down
and it happens every single match
deft warren
idk try alt entert
pine roost
and of course you can't just rejoin a game you left
mental delta
Go fill the survey plzzzzzz
We all did 
mental delta
Surveys are fun
drowsy shuttle
I didnt. Life is too short
pine roost
Surveys are fun
i agree
spiral folio
Yea die during a survey and its all people will talk about
arctic grove
Hmmm should I do the survey?
pine roost
no reason not to
arctic grove
Does it take long?
lapis eagle
wheres the survey? and whats it for?
pine roost
if you have something you want to say about the game then you should
arctic grove
Ehhh I got dumb ideas to share abt the game
arctic grove
Tbh I just want it to be supported longer
drowsy shuttle
Game is nice.. my only complain is the teammates. Buff players. Dice pls
arctic grove
That’s all I want the game to be supported longer
spiral folio
Make plaleers more smarterer
mental delta
Tbh I just want it to be supported longer
Complete the survey they need to know
eager spire
Game is nice.. my only complain is the teammates. Buff players. Dice pls
you can't buff players unless players wanna buff themselves.
arctic grove
Complete the survey they need to know
Sigh alr
wide shore
This sight kinda sweet
lucid goblet
wheres the survey? and whats it for?
spiral folio
Well given the endless list of sniper nerfs dating back decades om sure that'll get listened to
deft warren
@ carpovp can u explain me how to troubleshoot bf2042
pine roost
Nerf which snipers exactly?
drowsy shuttle
Me. Imma sniper.
spiral folio
Snipers have been nerfed so bad that babies need scope glare AND smoke trails to find em.
drowsy shuttle
Almost 300 projectiles destroyed with irish's APS in a single rush xl match.
spiral folio
At the rate its going by bf7 snipers will glow in the dark and have a directional indicator at all times
Press the point at sniper button to cycle through snipers
wide shore
Idc if there’s glint or not. As long as they never make them OHK below the head
pine roost
Snipers have been nerfed so bad that babies need scope glare AND smoke trails to...
Oh I see
pine roost
Idc if there’s glint or not. As long as they never make them OHK below the head
Honestly this
Keep it one shot headshot please
spiral folio
Glint is stupid
Smoke trails are worse
pine roost
But not body
eager spire
"WHAT DO YOU MEAN PEOPLE CAN SEE ME, I WANNA BE ABLE TO SHOOT PEOPLE AND NOT GET SHOT BACK >:("
spiral folio
Kill cam is spoon feeding
wide shore
Kill cam ain’t even that bad in this game
spiral folio
Some people are so stupid you cant even spoon feed em
drowsy shuttle
I would pay good money for Dice to remove kill cam.
wide shore
Back in like BC2 and BF3 it was. Won’t lie about that
granite island
Turning left on spearhead only to see 5 sniper glints directly on you.
pine roost
Kill cam ain’t even that bad in this game
Being able to place pings on people through walls is a bit sketchy though
spiral folio
You can use the spot function to indicate where it came from too during the killcam
slender isle
I would pay good money for DiCe to fix the pinging when down
radiant prism
Turning left on spearhead only to see 5 sniper glints directly on you.
Solution, don't turn left :)
granite island
How many days left till the 28th
eager spire
6
wide shore
Being able to place pings on people through walls is a bit sketchy though
Yeah they should probably fix that. I don’t think pinging while down is bad. But the auto ping you can do through walls is a bit uuhhhh. Scuffed
granite island
I dont mind the pinging through walls
lucid goblet
@ carpovp can u explain me how to troubleshoot bf2042
What issue are you having exactly?
deft warren
i launch the game, anticheat loads, then nothing else, steam doesnt show me as playing the game @lucid goblet
solar obsidian
i accidently had wallhack on spearhead, goty right now 🙂
deft warren
only happens since feb 10 update with the switch to origin to ea app
granite island
They should unnerf paik
eager spire
why
solar obsidian
only happens since feb 10 update with the switch to origin to ea app
repair game, try starting launcher and game as admin
wide shore
And require me to spam the ping button
Even then randoms never fuckin see pings.
solar obsidian
the anti cheat slow launch happened to me too
granite island
She's like Crawford But worse
arctic grove
I probably should’ve put that in the feedback….how I forget I can’t see allies pings….
lucid goblet
i launch the game, anticheat loads, then nothing else, steam doesnt show me as p...
Verify your files via steam, then re-install EAC and give it another go
deft warren
ive verified and uninstall ea app multiple times
i never reinstalled eac lemme try that
eager spire
She's like Crawford But worse
ok but how strong she was before the nerfs was never justified
cosmic sequoia
we need more vehicles per map
weary slate
does battle pass ingame change or no?
lucid goblet
does battle pass ingame change or no?
there's a new Battlepass each season if that's what you mean.
weary slate
there's a new Battlepass each season if that's what you mean.
yes but when new seasson start.
so every seasson i need buy battle pass and also how long is one seasson
lucid goblet
yes but when new seasson start.
new season starts in 6 days (there's a countdown on the main menu) , each season is roughly 12 weeks
eager spire
They could've gave her 2 second long x-ray
they should've just scrapped her before the game came out
lapis eagle
For the survey second question am i allowed to bulletpoint different things that would improve the game or should i only put one answer? I feel like if i put too much it would get skipped over and not read properly
lucid goblet
For the survey second question am i allowed to bulletpoint different things that...
put as much info as you think is relevant 🙂 i would think the more the better 😉
lapis eagle
Awesome
solar obsidian
For the survey second question am i allowed to bulletpoint different things that...
just put "we need more raytracing settings please"
granite island
The game already looks beautiful tho
arctic grove
Allow everyone to see each others pings
lapis eagle
lmao, i put
- Squad management system
- Remaster of battlefield 4 maps such as siege of shanghai, operation locker and flood zone.
- More weapons (RPK please <3)
- More operator skins that make operators look like modern/near future soldiers rather than weaponised civilians.
- Rework or overhaul to the armoured combat system. For instance, right now if you shoot the side of a tank at any angle it gets a flat dmg number. Instead at certain angles make the dmg number be slightly lowered depending on the angle of the side plate.
i feel like those are some pretty big needs for the game
pine roost
I went for a more general statement over specific changes
lucid goblet
Don't forget you can also add more context here #1077689769246593044 if you forget anything in the survey.
pine roost
cause if I did specific changes i'd be there for hours
arctic grove
I just put keep supporting the game even when it gets popular again. Plain and simple
solar obsidian
The game already looks beautiful tho
screen space reflection still looks like absolute ass the moment you start to look at bit up or down,
if when being downed in the water
granite island
Don't pull a battlefield 5 or battlefront 2 basically
arctic grove
Yea
granite island
screen space reflection still looks like absolute ass the moment you start to lo...
Yeah that's a problem
solar obsidian
you playing mw2?
having those large areas of water also looks like garbage the first moment you look down
eager spire
yeah and it was the most unbalanced bullshit ever so that's probably why they don't do that anymore
rocky kraken
yeah
arctic grove
Or a cargo plane that drops shit(Ik dumb idea)
rocky kraken
they should rework jets
solar obsidian
i want a bigger ac-130
arctic grove
How would a drivable ac-240 work tho
solar obsidian
i want a space shuttle with a tactical nuke on
arctic grove
Sir
rocky kraken
jets have horrible weapon customization
arctic grove
That’s madness
rocky kraken
should have way more
solar obsidian
That’s madness
i personal wonder where the nukes went
arctic grove
i personal wonder where the nukes went
That is not a option for the world bro
2042 is on the brink of fallout
Aslong as no one sends nukes to each other
granite island
Give me super bomber
pastel loom
bf25 (2025)
solar obsidian
or listen mates
if im going to believe this shit
can we at least get more violence than mw2?
arctic grove
Hmmmmmm
solar obsidian
more gore
granite island
Permanent blood stains
arctic grove
2042 executions would have to be smoother
calm bison
People want dismemberment but that doesn’t make sense
arctic grove
But I can see that
arctic grove
People want dismemberment but that doesn’t make sense
Looks at doom eternal
calm bison
Looks at doom eternal
It doesn’t make sense because you can revive in this game
solar obsidian
People want dismemberment but that doesn’t make sense
should we stop adding things when they dont make sense?
calm bison
You don’t get stabbed with a syringe and all of a sudden your limbs grow back
solar obsidian
It doesn’t make sense because **you can revive in this game**
no like other games, just have a dog tag where players die
granite island
How about headshots = no revive
arctic grove
Hell no
edgy oriole
headshot no revive should be in everygame
arctic grove
GOD NO
solar obsidian
you apparently get unable to be revied anyways if you fall 50cm down an edge
calm bison
More like - something that wouldn’t make sense to revive (like being obliterated by an HE shell from a tank) means no revive
Melee kills in previous games blocked revives
Because you can’t fix stab wounds or something
granite island
Add the artillery vehicle
solar obsidian
More like - something that wouldn’t make sense to revive (like being obliterated...
you get direct hit by those,
you can still be revived now,
a truck pushes you over too hard and you cant
latent canyon
Am i the only one that still thinks gunplay feels wonky
pastel loom
headshots are meant to be rewarding
so yes, I don't mind them blocking revive
pine roost
Most likely due to a protection mechanism to stop you evening inside the vehicle
solar obsidian
Map specific vehicles
this takes effort
granite island
Oh
solar obsidian
yeah
calm bison
I mean BFV and BF1 had faction and (map) specific vehicles
solar obsidian
1942 did
calm bison
Not entirely out there
pastel loom
I mean BFV and BF1 had faction and (map) specific vehicles
bf1 didn't
pine roost
I really wish the next update reduces all they necessary countdowns and timers. I just went to get into the game quickly man
calm bison
bf1 didn't
Please tell me of a map in the Tsar DLC where I can use the Char 2C
Technically behemoths count as vehicles
granite island
I actually want the season 4 trailer intro to be the loading screen into flashpoint
solar obsidian
best part about the trailer is how a player empty his mag while falling down the hole
thats not even a thing in this game
calm bison
Shoutout to BFV being the only battlefield game with an actually good gimmick
solar obsidian
meanwhile we have fear thats reaching two decades old soon having those features
latent canyon
Yk what i want em to add back from bfv fkin ammo stations no fkin teammate ever gives ammo
calm bison
Cringe
granite island
I recommended a flying fortress map💀
solar obsidian
I recommended a flying fortress map💀
just give us a star destroyer
calm bison
I respectfully disagree with u on that
When was the last time your team won with a behemoth
granite island
A map above the clouds
calm bison
Behemoths were the emotional support animals of BF1
solar obsidian
if we want stuff that dont make sense
granite island
Would be cool
radiant prism
They're gimmicky
arctic grove
When was the last time your team won with a behemoth
Never bc I can’t find much matches on bf1
solar obsidian
can dozer please stop dying with a few body shots from a pistol ?
arctic grove
But I think I won a couple with the battleship
granite island
Bf1 on ps is dead
solar obsidian
can helmets actually do what they are meant to do
can we buff the ranger because it makes zero sense it does less damage than the glock
g57
whatever
pine roost
anything that automatically aims for you should do insignificant damage
calm bison
can helmets actually do what they are meant to do
So does that mean players without helmets are at a disadvantage? That’s dumb
copper ice
the ranger is sometimes sick and sometimee useless
solar obsidian
So does that mean players without helmets are at a disadvantage? That’s dumb
it makes sense
calm bison
Realistically? Yes. In the context of an arcade FPS? No
granite island
Imagine if the exodus is actually just a base in the sky
And that's where the missiles are going
solar obsidian
i miss when games really tried to compete in visual impact
eager spire
to be honest, i don't really care if a game has gore or not, i feel like the fascination with it is a bit weird
radiant prism
Yeah gore is just unneccessary
calm bison
There are no bathrooms on any of the maps
solar obsidian
to be honest, i don't really care if a game has gore or not, i feel like the fas...
for me its more about the impact of the weapons used,
copper ice
gore is pointless in games with revives
slender isle
The gore that works in war games is probably best showcased in Insurgency sandstorm
radiant prism
Especially when the revive system exists
solar obsidian
dont feel the tank are powerful when the character takes zero damage from it
eager spire
for me its more about the impact of the weapons used,
I feel like that could be better communicated through weapon sounds and animation than gore
solar obsidian
it needs all of that
quiet shell
I wonder if the community feedback is DICE figuring out what to work on next
calm bison
IDK, I feel like BFV got tank ballistics pretty well
eager spire
i don't agree
calm bison
Your shots actually had weight to them
You fired - your tank would actually react to the shot
copper ice
the enemy one didnt because hitreg
calm bison
Given the sliding and movement mechanics I disagree
copper ice
Movement was better but the general pace of the game was slower
eager spire
that's a positive
copper ice
slower reloads less bullets in the mag etc
solar obsidian
whole animations of bf5 was leagues ahead of 2042 to this day
calm bison
2042’s AOW animations are actually pretty solid
It’s the portal animations that get clowned on
solar obsidian
i only play aow
eager spire
Portal reuses AOW animations a lot
eager spire
we cant lay on our back
good, frankly
slender isle
Given the sliding and movement mechanics I disagree
Sliding mechanics in bfV sucked ass
copper ice
tbh both of those were cracked in bfv
eager spire
i feel like giving players even more opportunity to be rats in this game would be annoying
slender isle
Just floating over everything
arctic grove
we cant lay on our back
Fucking hated that
ebon pilot
we cant even crouch sprint
oh so you're talking about movement mechanics not animations
solar obsidian
both things
copper ice
you crouch ran 99% of the time and the lying on back looked so much like a corpse i started shooting ragdolls just in case
copper ice
I did like the vehicle animations a lot
arctic grove
Got killed by em….
calm bison
I did find it funny that BFV has specific animations for getting in and out of tanks but your character just warps inside of planes
solar obsidian
Got killed by em….
oh you poor thing... maybe plan when to bail a vehicle
fervent rose
the entering ground vehicle animations look good in 2042
arctic grove
oh you poor thing... maybe plan when to bail a vehicle
No I do
fervent rose
but exit animations were terrible
arctic grove
It’s the fucking random snipers at the ends of the maps that kill me….
copper ice
what exit animations
fervent rose
in bfv
copper ice
fervent rose
2042 has enter but you can control vehicle instantly
copper ice
visually they were ugly but i much prefer that to instantly hopping out of a tank to fuck someone in 0.5 seconds
fervent rose
made the transports feel like absolute shit
getting out of a halftrack was a death sentence near an enemy player
it sucked
copper ice
true! they sucked ass in bfv
and now transports have 30mm and are used as mobile gun carriers
solar obsidian
and now transports have 30mm and are used as mobile gun carriers
players cried about transport was weak and defenceless
copper ice
they just needed to make infantry dismount from transport faster than from tank
maybe a better mounted lmg
not accurate at 300m 30mm with fat aoe
pine roost
I’d get rid of all weapons bar the miniguns on both the jeep, hovercraft and transport helis
solar obsidian
i want hovercraft to fly and climb walls again
arctic grove
<:WoahTea:562440527266447371> i want hovercraft to fly and climb walls again
Hovercraft could replace boats
If they added more water maps lol
solar obsidian
i keep forgetting there are boats
arctic grove
They need to add a ramp to the sea in manifest imo
solar obsidian
i was just thinking about how this game wont get proper naval combat
solar obsidian
They need to add a ramp to the sea in manifest imo
nono water baaaad
i miss naval warfare in bf4
solar obsidian
that map was excellent
arctic grove
Point is I think they should do a map like parcel storm
solar obsidian
100%
solar obsidian
back in older bf games when aircraft carriers was controllable
eager spire
boats and naval combat suck ass i'm glad they're gone
arctic grove
oh nvm
solar obsidian
moving spawn point that could be destroyed
solar obsidian
boats and naval combat suck ass i'm glad they're gone
tons share that opinion sadly,
battlefield could have kept what made them unique
fervent rose
boats and naval combat suck ass i'm glad they're gone
it could be done well as a side thing once the entire game is fleshed out. but bf4 attack boat stuff can stay in bf4
eager spire
tons share that opinion sadly,
battlefield could have kept what made them uniqu...
I'm glad. i'm glad people share that opinion.
Naval Strike was the worst DLC in BF4.
and most of the DLC for BF4 was already kinda mid.
eager spire
who the fuck were you talking to
solar obsidian
I'm glad. i'm glad people share that opinion.
thats also why bf ended up being a low recoil hero shooter,
the community screamed to remove any depth, they just wanted the comfort feeling cod and apex gave them
arctic grove
who the fuck were you talking to
Bf4 fans
eager spire
thats also why bf ended up being a low recoil hero shooter,
the community screa...
i mean BF4 still had plenty of depth, naval combat alone did not give it depth.
arctic grove
I’m not kidding I wasn’t really talking to them but every Bf vid I see ppl in comments talking abt bf4 dlc being good
Personally I didn’t like the game much
eager spire
I think most of the BF4 DLC maps are mid.
arctic grove
Especially for that launch
eager spire
and Naval Strike is the worst of all of them.
arctic grove
What it have ?
eager spire
what, Naval Strike?
eager spire
Lost Islands, Nansha Strike, Operation Mortar, and Wave Breaker.
hybrid totem
Operation mortar was the best
eager spire
It also added the AR-160, SR-2, AWS, SR338, and the SW40, and the M320 3GL.
arctic grove
Oh cool
eager spire
The SR338 being the worst recon weapon in the game, the SW40 being the worst revolver in the game and the M320 3GL being incredibly annoying.
pastel loom
there was an m320 flashbang too
dart (shotgun)
and lvg (frag grenade)
arctic grove
there was an m320 flashbang too
dart (shotgun)
and lvg (frag grenade)
I wanna use it
eager spire
Like okay here's my opinions on the BF4 DLC's in particular.
China Rising: I never see anyone running these maps except for Silk Road, and I hate Silk Road, but it did add the L85A2, MTAR, and MP7 into the game so it's fine. But it also added the UCAV which is a downside to me.
Second Assault: All of the maps here could've been replaced with better maps from BF3. Why bring back Caspian Border and Operation Firestorm when you could being back Grand Bazaar and Seine Crossing? Hell, replace Metro with one of the BF3 Close Quarters DLC maps. This map selection just sucks and I hate all of it. It did add the AS VAL though.
Naval Strike: Fuck off.
Dragon's Teeth: Pearl Market is an okay map i guess. This DLC added the CS5, Bulldog, and MPX to the game, which are fine guns i guess. Lumphini Garden can fuck off though. As can the Ballistic Shield.
Final Stand: Nobody runs these maps. The only one i've seen actually run on servers is Giants of Karelia, and I don't like that map that much. Also it added a railgun battlepickup and a meme bow. No other new weapons. ugh.
arctic grove
you're very unbiased
eager spire
i'll see you in 7 years then
solar obsidian
trying to say dlc maps where mid, while we had 3 new maps in total of 15 months 2042
and stranded being one of them
pastel loom
Like okay here's my opinions on the BF4 DLC's in particular.
China Rising: I ne...
mainstream maps always getting attention
unfortunately
arctic grove
mainstream maps always getting attention
unfortunately
people are stupid
solar obsidian
bf4 is sadly leagues ahead of whatever 2042 are trying to repair
eager spire
mainstream maps always getting attention
unfortunately
Grand Bazaar and Seine Crossing weren't mainstream maps???
hello???
pastel loom
the others were just too popular
eager spire
WHAT DO YOU MEAN OPERATION FIRESTORM WAS MORE POPULAR
IF WE'RE TALKING ABOUT POPULARITY WHY WASN'T CANALS IN THIS DLC
solar obsidian
WHAT DO YOU MEAN OPERATION FIRESTORM WAS MORE POPULAR
yeah you objectively right they where not the most popular,
reason they added them *
eager spire
?????????
oh also i forgot the operations
uh, the AN-94 and L86A2 exist in it
as well as Zavod Graveyard Shift.
solar obsidian
thats the only thing dice have done since bf2,
re add some of the older most popular maps
eager spire
I don't really have anything else to say
solar obsidian
whole reason wake island have been seen in multiple games
eager spire
Operation Outbreak was apparently made with input from the BF community at the time.
Lotta good that did it because nobody ever fucking runs that map
arctic grove
someone should run armored shield
solar obsidian
i just like played on servers with all maps in random rotation
arctic grove
i just like played on servers with all maps in random rotation
and if it doesn't exist?
or no players
solar obsidian
and if it doesn't exist?
thats the funny thing
eager spire
most servers i played on ran mainly base game maps or very few DLC maps
because most of them suck
arctic grove
for me
I've been trying to join rush dlc maps
and there's only one fookin gun master server
pathetic
eager spire
solar obsidian
now we have issues in bf2042 where there are low player numbers in certain playlist,
while a lot are sitting in xp farming servers because
arctic grove
>Night Golmud
god
night flood zone
solar obsidian
i miss night maps
eager spire
Night maps with no NVG's
cringe.
arctic grove
>Night maps with no NVG's
cringe.
everyone will either spam flashlight or flare
it's war
eager spire
everyone will either spam flashlight or flare
still, cringe. You mean to tell me that nobody in 2020 has NVG's in the military?
pastel loom
I'm surprised they haven't returned in games
solar obsidian
@arctic grovehttps://youtu.be/O8MeaYu8Syk?t=114
arctic grove
wot
solar obsidian
damn sexy night maps
pastel loom
but they could be too good that infrared sights become redundant
arctic grove
ok
eager spire
but they could be too good that infrared sights become redundant
oh well
less reason to have IR sights and frankly that's a good thing all around
copper ice
thermal sights are too good
solar obsidian
mortars back lel
arctic grove
them having cooldown is the issue
rocky kraken
What is this from?
copper ice
mortars back lel
don't scare me like that
eager spire
What is this from?
the Battlefield wiki
honestly i wish the BF Wiki wasn't on Wikia.
Wikia/Fandom is a garbage website.
eager spire
this is for BF4
rocky kraken
Ah
eager spire
i was talking about BF4 DLC
eager spire
the entire wiki is themed for 2042
eager spire
i don't know
arctic grove
why don't they make a command & conquer battlefield, you know, gdi vs nod
solar obsidian
why don't they make a command & conquer battlefield, you know, gdi vs nod
they tried renegade
bombed
eager spire
because those two fanbases don't have much overlap
solar obsidian
bf2 killed of all hope of a renegade 2
modern warfare games simply became everything for the best part of a decade
same reason 2142 never seen sequels
pastel loom
if they were purely modern to begin with
instead of mixing modern and future settings
solar obsidian
it gets more funny when thinking about how much they fucked up c&c 4
arctic grove
anyone remember gamespy and fileplanet
solar obsidian
yes
solar obsidian
they still do
arctic grove
i know they just made 64 vs 64, but when is 128 vs 128 coming, or better yet, 1000 vs 1000
i need a war simulator
war metaverse
solar obsidian
planetside is your jam
arctic grove
meh @ that game
pastel loom
64v64 should be decreased if anything
eager spire
war metaverse
god that's an awful idea. also Warbox exists.
arctic grove
cmon youre telling me if we had a war metaverse, like a whole planet at war, it wouldnt be fun?
what about a galactic war like star wars
eager spire
the concept of metaverses is cringe.
arctic grove
metaverse is just a gen z word for virtual world
copper ice
it doesn't function in terms of gameplay and online connection
eager spire
also what chunky said
copper ice
metaverse means something else entirely
pastel loom
what about a galactic war like star wars
bf is staying at modern combat
copper ice
that's what Facebook wants you to call it but it aint lol
it's exceedingly difficult to balance high population games (as 2042 demonstrates) and the servers genuinely cannot handle the strain
arctic grove
future tech should be able to handle it
copper ice
things like grenades sneaking through Irish APS or being hit behind walls happen drastically more
arctic grove
come back in year 3000
copper ice
in year 3000 we can have our own galactic war
eager spire
you won't be around.
arctic grove
galactic war yes, whole planets at war
solar obsidian
just upload my souls as an ai
eager spire
<:WoahTea:562440527266447371> just upload my souls as an ai
yes because that's totally how it works
rocky kraken
when is the deveopment update
solar obsidian
yes because that's totally how it works
getting logic into my arcade shooters are we ?
rocky kraken
that got leaked
solar obsidian
😄
eager spire
when was this about arcade shooters
solar obsidian
it's exceedingly difficult to balance high population games (as 2042 demonstrate...
here
we talking about increased size in bf games
eager spire
???????
arctic grove
its easy to balance it, just get rid of guns and come back to medieval fantasy
guns are the problem in massive pop games
pastel loom
128p is too much
eager spire
yes but have you considered that massive pop games with just melee and bows would not be very fun for the majority of people
it likely wouldn't even get up to whatever max player count you want
arctic grove
elder scrolls online does it in a map called cyrodiil
eager spire
right and how many people play that
arctic grove
lots
eager spire
right now it's at 13k players.
arctic grove
you know most people dont use steam for that game right
eager spire
Bethesda discontinued their own launcher, all of it got migrated over to Steam.
arctic grove
no
eager spire
yes.
solar obsidian
@eager spireyou can use it without steam
eager spire
solar obsidian
@eager spirehttps://help.elderscrollsonline.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/7063/~/how-do-i-download-%2F-install-the-game-if-i-purchased-it-from-the-elder-scrolls
its also on game pass
arctic grove
yup
solar obsidian
which dont use steam
arctic grove
the map cyrodiil (which is a pvp map) can hold up to 1500 people going at it at once
solar obsidian
i would love if they stopped giving steam numbers completely, 99% of players in here just throw them out like its the only place that matter
arctic grove
ya i play battlefield and cod (not on steam)
solar obsidian
about 1800 actually 😄
eager spire
ESO isn't crossplay, is it
arctic grove
no
arctic grove
gamepass/pc/steam has its own pc server, ps and xbox have their own servers
solar obsidian
what about epic ?
rocky kraken
epic games
solar obsidian
its also sold there right ?
rocky kraken
oof
arctic grove
i dont think its on epic, but if it is, it would be pc server
slender isle
I play cyberpunk through GOG so I clearly don’t count towards that like million concurrent players they had
eager spire
okay, so general population numbers do not matter in this instance because there is no way to differentiate between console and PC players, and Bethesda aren't releasing those numbers outside of Steam.
solar obsidian
epic games
yeah i know, place that gives so many great games out
arctic grove
most eso gamers dont use steam.......
eager spire
okay but still, considering there's no way to differentiate who's playing on PC and who's not, it's not worthwhile to look into general population numbers, even if they were available.
arctic grove
the point lycan, is that cyrodiil (the pvp map) can hold 1500-1800 players
eager spire
okay
arctic grove
and the other point, is that guns is the problem in massive pop games like battlefield/cod, and its not a problem in medieval fantasy
that was the argument
eager spire
right but PVP combat is not all there is to do in ESO, it's an RPG, there's more to it than that. Which is why people play it.
If it was just PVP combat it wouldn't be as interesting or appealing to a lot of people, and it wouldn't get that many players, and it certainly wouldn't keep whatever players it has for a very long time.
arctic grove
that has nothing to do with the high pop of battlefield being too chaotic
missing the point
if there is 1000 guns, you spawn and die, its not fun at all
eager spire
You're trying to imply that if a large PVP only game came out with massive player counts but it was medieval fantasy, that it would just work
arctic grove
yes because melee in medieval fantasy can tank range
rapid flint
will the twilight bundle ever come back? i missed out on it...
arctic grove
you cant in shooters
copper ice
its easy to balance it, just get rid of guns and come back to medieval fantasy
this was in mordhau and they reduced the server size because the experience was bad
eager spire
okay so how is my prior statement not relevant?
Like you claim that it works because ESO does it in a single map, but the thing is that ESO has a large playerbase and not all of those people are just doing PVP, they're doing other RPG things, because ESO is an RPG.
lucid goblet
Please take the ESO discussion to #other-games
solar obsidian
thx carpo
arctic grove
rip
rocky kraken
zaddy carpo
lucid goblet
solar obsidian
hot take, i just want fully path traced battlefield games asap
arctic grove
anyways, the point is high pop pvp shooters will never work until they incorperate rpg elements like tanking and healing
slender isle
hot take, i just want fully path traced battlefield games asap
Cant wait for 2030 when that’s possible with the rtx 6090ti platinum diamond card
lucid goblet
hot take, i just want fully path traced battlefield games asap
Would be nice but not viable for a huge sandbox MP like Battlefield
eager spire
okay but consider this: that's a good reason that high pop PVP shooters shouldn't exist at all.
¯_(ツ)_/¯
topaz field
Would be nice but not viable for a huge sandbox MP like Battlefield
i just want mad editor...
solar obsidian
Would be nice but not viable for a huge sandbox MP like Battlefield
i know, only minecraft been able to do it,
lucid goblet
i just want mad editor...
Mad editor? Do you mean map editor? Would be awesome to have one of them
solar obsidian
both yes
rocky kraken
wait
high fov makes 2042 feel clunky
but in low fov
the game feels alot smoother
when it coems to movement
hmmmmm
eager spire
I feel like that might be a problem with your setup
eager spire
higher fov = you have to render more of the environment which means performance will go down
which would be perceived as clunky movement
rocky kraken
not sure how to explain it
solar obsidian
im playing in 50fov now
how close are you to the screen?
ebon pilot
that would probably do it
arctic grove
which fov do you guys use? because in cod i use 90, but in BF my settings are medium with 90 feelsbadman
solar obsidian
because its vertical
rocky kraken
i was playing 105
pine roost
Cod uses horizontal fov doesn’t it?
solar obsidian
Cod uses horizontal fov doesn’t it?
yeah
eager spire
?????????
pine roost
If I remember correctly, about 80 is 100 Hfov
lucid goblet
92 FOV is what I use
arctic grove
for bf?
eager spire
I generally run 110 FOV in any game that allows me to do so
solar obsidian
I generally run 110 FOV in any game that allows me to do so
but please tell me you dont set bf to 110?
placid echo
When you wake up from a four hour nap and the first user name you see is "isleptallday"
eager spire
but please tell me you dont set bf to 110?
:)
rocky kraken
do you guys ever get the character clipping
solar obsidian
mates
pine roost
do you guys ever get the character clipping
When prone
ebon pilot
my fov is 83 because I have a very funny screen
placid echo
I wish I did
ebon pilot
solar obsidian
eager spire
funny wide screen
rocky kraken
i sometimes feel like when i vault while reloading or soemthng
placid echo
Max the fov with that screen
solar obsidian
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/850376380822323230/1051150246043975720/im...
how fish sees the world
wary portal
what you guys think about the season 4 thingie?
rocky kraken
but sometimes it seems animations clash
ebon pilot
if you use hfov in your games i will come to your house and ask you nicely to please stop it and use vfov for my sake before i blow my brains out with a shotgun
rocky kraken
also
rocky kraken
is the game supposed to have my hands literally covered in mud
even when i just spawned
eager spire
rocky kraken
or is that a visual bug
solar obsidian
https://themetalmuncher.github.io/fov-calc/ use this calculator
eager spire
rocky kraken
because my hands look covered in shit
ebon pilot
Max the fov with that screen
eager spire
and it's the same in BF1 as well i just showed it in BF4 because BF4 has the Test Range
and BF1 does not.
because BF1 is cringe like that
placid echo
Don't even have to turn your mouse to look left or right
You just use your eyes there
solar obsidian
just start a private bot map
placid echo
Solo is a test range really
eager spire
eh
solar obsidian
weapon inspects at some point?
just play cod
rocky kraken
naww bro
if theres skins in the game
which there is
you should at least be able to inspect
in game
eager spire
"yes i would like an animation of my character looking over my gun please"
"JUST GO PLAY CALL OF DUTY GOD STOP ASKING TOO MUCH"
solar obsidian
if theres skins in the game
remove hud hold the attachment button
eager spire
STOP ASKING TOO MUCH OF THIS LARGE COMPANY, GOSH
solar obsidian
STOP ASKING TOO MUCH OF THIS LARGE COMPANY, GOSH
takes time to make an animation mate 😄
eager spire
yes i know but still
rocky kraken
not for ak47u
solar obsidian
i know
solar obsidian
that shit was made in 3.69 seconds
it was properly made the day rookies was trying frostbite engine at dice
first day on job
take you kid to work
rocky kraken
i wouldnt be suprised
all the portal weps have a weird like
pause at the end
that makes it feel weird
solar obsidian
or they send the instructions to us division in swedish who know
is there even a photo mode or ansel in this game ?
solar obsidian
and here i am thinking lis sucks ass because her gadgets are so limited
eager spire
oh yeah nevermind that she's basically a guaranteed killer of anything that's not a transport heli and flies
nah she's just pretty weak, needs a buff, honestly, she should oneshot tanks.
arctic grove
tough folio
engineer class sucks
how so? literally did what they do in other games
rocky kraken
im talking about the specialists
the engineer specialist stuff is ass
boris turret is basically useless
crawford minigun
no matter how buffed it gets
is just boring
tough folio
and what did you want them to have? more tgms?
they literally have exclusive access to lauchers which is well enough reason to play them
ebon pilot
no?
solar obsidian
thank god
fervent rose
assault dont have recoilless or jav
tough folio
smoke laucher lmao
rocky kraken
no
fervent rose
only the new little sticky thing
rocky kraken
boris needs a complete rework
fervent rose
nah just a passive rework
tough folio
zain has airburst, but thats like infantry only, and the new gadget which doesnt look like it does too much
i just dont play boris, nothing about him screams at me to play him, which isnt bad, but more operators seem more viable or interesting to me
rocky kraken
new gadget
is gonna be good
probably the best one
if you stick one dude
you kill everyone basically
tough folio
isnt it just a wall destroyer?
ebon pilot
boris and crawford seem stuck in this limbo. neither of their gadgets are really good against infantry, but also they aren't good against vehicles either compared to lis
solar obsidian
depending on how large the explosion is
im ready with the popcorn
i honestly hate the hitbox change on lis rocket
i dont mind its being easier to hit
i like that change,
even though its a nerf
tough folio
i honestly hate the hitbox change on lis rocket
they need to fix desync and nerf speed and range.
ebon pilot
only thing I hate about lis rockets is seeing a rocket obviously miss me on my screen and die anyway
solar obsidian
but having such a large hitbox when firing makes me hit so many things close to me accidently
eager spire
only thing I hate about lis rockets is seeing a rocket obviously *miss me* on my...
that is a skill issue, you should've dodged it better. :V
solar obsidian
they need to fix desync and nerf speed and range.
i never had those kind of issues
rocky kraken
no gingers
eager spire
remove the TV missile and replace it with a SRAW
rocky kraken
lifes perfect
placid echo
it can stick to people
Gonna stick it to my friend Dozer and have him run in
tough folio
i never had those kind of issues
play air and you will find those issues pop up quickly
rocky kraken
i think it may just go through
hexed mango
guys big decision here
do i spend my first semester of university in Spain or Greece
solar obsidian
play air and you will find those issues pop up quickly
why would i ever play air lol
ebon pilot
Gonna stick it to my friend Dozer and have him run in
I think it blows up pretty quick based on the trailer
rocky kraken
hm
hexed mango
Madrid or Thessaloniki
solar obsidian
guys big decision here
do i spend my first semester of university in Spain or Gr...
spain,
rocky kraken
spain
sand shadow
Does anyone else use a PS controller for this game? It was working with for me with DS4window, but has recently stopped...
solar obsidian
🐺 they almost the same
tough folio
was there ever a time where incendiarys were strong
solar obsidian
was there ever a time where incendiarys were strong
the sfar launcher yes
solar obsidian
That is a fox
ea used that emoji for promoting season 4
arctic grove
Yea
solar obsidian
🐺
eager spire
it's a wolf
eager spire
🦊 this is a fox
arctic grove
I’ve been bamboozled
eager spire
dummy
solar obsidian
cant let you do that star wolf
arctic grove
Bruh
solar obsidian
arctic grove
Not the star fox references
solar obsidian
path tracing into my veins
pine roost
Changing your name to what you want changed is a very battlefield move
eager spire
I like my name, plus it wouldn't fit if i put "YOU FORGOT TO REVERT EXTENDED MAG NERF" in it
solar obsidian
no they where 100% sure what they did, properly just some dev in charge playing with drum mag himself
pine roost
Is it in reference to lycanMB?
eager spire
Is it in reference to lycanMB?
no
i've seen that person when searching my own name, i've never heard of them before in my life.
pine roost
I’d it’s your own name then fair enough
eager spire
i did come up with it independently yes
pine roost
Anyways, I just tried a game in a tank. There is absolutely no way to have any real presence on the battlefield
The only way to play is to peek then reposition instantly
eager spire
no they where 100% sure what they did, properly just some dev in charge playing ...
They said they reverted the nerfs, but they forgot about the extended mags.
pine roost
Lis missile just fly around, regardless of if they see you or not.
solar obsidian
@eager spireim gonna share my last match on spearhead
fervent rose
Anyways, I just tried a game in a tank. There is absolutely no way to have any r...
thats just not true. unless you mean conquest and thats more debatable
copper fulcrum
For our Lycan here, would it be LycanNB instead of LycanMB?
eager spire
:P
pine roost
It was breakthrough, I was trying to play somewhat like I would in infantry since I’m not that experienced in tanks, but I could see no room to actually play with mobility
If you’ve had a different experience please do share
hexed mango
damn it looks like im forced to do greece cause i wont be 18 by June 1st
pine roost
I hate the way I felt like I had to play in that game
hexed mango
i kinda wanted spain but whatever
solar obsidian
i kinda wanted spain but whatever
look at tinder before you go, see where the hottest singles are
hexed mango
look at tinder before you go, see where the hottest singles are
bruh
fervent rose
you have to be more thoughtful of your movement and abuse irish aps. and then you'll have many many rockets flying at you all game
but you can play aggro with it too
pine roost
Does it entierly revolve around the aps?
fervent rose
i mean no, but if theres 3+ lis players dedicated you are kinda fucked with no APS
you need repairs or APS in those moments
pine roost
I’d love to learn how to play without relying on the aps
Oh shit, hyper just uploaded
fervent rose
You can do so much more if you do use the APS, even just as a lis counter
you dont gotta use it to sit on a hill like a noob
solar obsidian
the aps is the worst thing this game has going
fervent rose
Well when there's literally 5 lis players shooting top down missiles at the tank, what is that guy supposed to do
solar obsidian
Well when there's literally 5 lis players shooting top down missiles at the tank...
if there are FIVE against ONE
fervent rose
its not a very fair situation the lis players don't expose themselves at all
solar obsidian
teach your gunner how to aim
pine roost
Relying on a broken gadget to deal with a broken gadget is just annoying
solar obsidian
they are so easily shot down with a decent aim
fervent rose
agreed @pine roost
but if you want to have really high kill games with presence as a tank learn it
pine roost
You already have to expose yourself enough as a tank to deal damage, all of which can lead to you taking easy damage. Yet lis can just get away Scot free
fervent rose
they are so easily shot down with a decent aim
if the lis player aims from above they are definitely not "easy" to shoot down
ebon pilot
its not a very fair situation the lis players don't expose themselves at all
Well, they have to hide at least
Otherwise they're literally afk
solar obsidian
if the lis player aims from above they are definitely not "easy" to shoot down
i never had issues as a gunner
fervent rose
Well, they have to hide at least
i mean they can shoot you from basically spawn
solar obsidian
beside that we have repair bot, AND repair tool on all engineers now
arctic grove
I really appreciate how DICE uses RPGs in their s4 trailer but they wont bring it to AOW. Classic DICE.
It be a big W if they do bring the rpg to AOW.
pine roost
Well it’ll function no differently to the Gustav. They are both simple dumbfire launchers
idle lion
Well when there's literally 5 lis players shooting top down missiles at the tank...
1st. they are teamworking, you shouldnt be allowed to survive 5 missiles no matter what
2nd. Just place an irish next to you
fervent rose
Well it’ll function no differently to the Gustav. They are both simple dumbfire ...
it could be an assault gadget with less vehicle damage
pine roost
Why though
fervent rose
im just saying thats an option
pine roost
It would make zero sense to make it an assault gadget
Although knowing dice, anything is possible
solar obsidian
give it to angel he needs some changes
fervent rose
the new angel crate is dope tho
fervent rose
1st. they are teamworking, you shouldnt be allowed to survive 5 missiles no matt...
bro it is not "teamwork" for 5 lis players to shoot tv guided missiles at your tank from spawn
pine roost
There needs to be a risk / reward. With lis there is no risk
Meanwhile the tank actually needs to expose themselves
fervent rose
is it team damage, yea, but they arent working together
idle lion
There needs to be a risk / reward. With lis there is no risk
and if you dont teamwork theres no reward
fervent rose
its completely random and they take zero risk
idle lion
Meanwhile the tank actually needs to expose themselves
do they? have youseen the amount campers
who snipe with tanks from
pine roost
They still expose themselves, you can visibly see them
idle lion
They still expose themselves, you can visibly see them
cant kill them though
pine roost
The Gustav and javelin have the ranges to deal with them, any aircraft can take them out
idle lion
have you tried to do that?
pine roost
Yes
idle lion
well then youll know they have 2 irishmen
solar obsidian
me sitting on top of a building throwing c5 and noobtubes while refilling it with box
arctic grove
It be a big W if they do bring the rpg to AOW.
What’s the point tho
solar obsidian
attacking without line of sight have been here forever
pine roost
Irish is another problem of equal importance, it’s crazy how his aps has no cool-down or limit
fervent rose
yea im the first to tell you that irish aps should be nerfed and things like jav/recoilless should do more vs them
but lis missiles vs tanks is busted
solar obsidian
some vehicles can even get mortars lol
pine roost
That’s one instance where I agree, in that situation the tank has no risk, I don’t want that to happen
But even one lis can cause a tank to be permanently under fire and forced to retreat as one tick of damage reveals his location to every other lis
fervent rose
But even one lis can cause a tank to be permanently under fire and forced to ret...
exactly, a single lis does way too much chip damage
topaz field
Mad editor? Do you mean map editor? Would be awesome to have one of them
yeah sorry MAP***
arctic grove
I like making wistle noises when firing the mortar
pine roost
I’d just find it a bit more fun if I didn’t have to be constantly paranoid all the time, then get hit out of nowhere from the sky
fervent rose
and its infinite ammo, 0 risk, never ending "random" damage
solar obsidian
can we still fly into the building on hourglass and hide ?
arctic grove
can we still fly into the building on hourglass and hide ?
U can go in a building?
pine roost
I could actually play the game, and if I die then that’s my fault because i overextended
But camping shouldn’t be incentivised either
solar obsidian
U can go in a building?
one skyscraber lacked collision, it was just a texture without anything
solar obsidian
helis used to hide in them to repair
arctic grove
Yea being a tanker is hard
solar obsidian
"tested game btw"
arctic grove
U either push and die
Or forced to camp
Personally I push but….
The amount of lock ons….
solar obsidian
we also have to remember we are not made to be immortal in this game,
getting outnumbered will always kill you
pine roost
And it should