#battlefield-2042
fervent rose
dapper river
copper ice
i use AK with zain and i finish entire games without firing a single bullet
fervent rose
and they thought, lets add more ranged explosives to this man's kit
copper ice
masterkey, 40mm HE/incendiary, airburst, frags
fervent rose
🧠
copper ice
very much looking forward to more explosives
i can't blame irish for existing when this many explosives are available LOL
but one APS shutting down all of them is ridiculous at the same time
dapper river
Irish is gonna need 3 shootdown sentries with all the explosives they're adding to the game 
copper ice
it's like kids fighting in the playground man
fervent rose
dice is bullying me into playing dozer with all these explosives 
i dont wanna be a dozo
dapper river
Still, could be worse. Could he Battlefield 2 levels of grenade spam, before the invention of the shootdown APS
copper ice
"i have EXPLOSIONS and FIRE and ELECTRIC and FLASH and BOOM"
"yeah well i have the UNBREAKABLE SHIELD"
with how fast aps charges you can just shit out a trail of them as irish across the map
even dozer dies to the amount of explosives that are available
dapper river
I'd play dozer if they buffed his turn rate
limber orbit
even dozer dies to the amount of explosives that are available
Dies slower lol
dapper river
the reverse mouse accel on his shield feels great wdym
If only we had a word that was the opposite of "acceleration" that we could use, lol
copper ice
he gets to see all his limbs blown off before dying rather than just having his head explode
UBGL should share ammo supply for one thing though
acoustic seal
RIP the dream of getting irish APS nerfed into an acceptable state, now it needs to be busted to counter the insane amount of explosive spam
copper ice
2042 is just busted things countering other busted things
it's like a fucking yugioh match
fervent rose
If only we had a word that was the opposite of "acceleration" that we could use,...
well its acceleration but negative, it still works fine
why they programmed dozer to work like that, i dont really get
gotta be a better way
ebon pilot
dice got a quality marketing team
copper ice
LIME
dapper river
why they programmed dozer to work like that, i dont really get
Probably for controller players
azure carbon
Don’t got a quality game tho
fervent rose
Probably for controller players
i mean i think its also to prevent mouse players from spinning the shield like crackheads but it feels so bad
you are punished for quick reactive movements and that feels bad in a fast paced game like bf
dapper river
2042 is just busted things countering other busted things
just as god intended, it's what made MW2 (the real MW2) so great 
acoustic seal
the game already drops actions if you do too many things at once, why not add a roller turnrate cap?
pine roost
No, just fast. And oneshot headshot
copper ice
the oneshot headshot is a very strange choice
limpid pond
Playing the mass effect 3 campaign and tbh I feel nothing
This games story is ass
Just watched the chick in the blue suit die and I could care less tbh
arctic grove
Bf1 is better
pine roost
Zk my beloved
pine roost
Zk and grease gun definitely my go tos
fervent rose
i miss the suomi
limpid pond
Grease gun was stupidly good
copper ice
they don't feel especially strong in their designated zone and then they fall off HARD against everything else as soon as you're past 20m
limpid pond
Suomi was solid but not the best
copper ice
mp28 and mp34 were my favourites
copper ice
suomi had better hrec than tommy, tommy had less vrec
pine roost
Although sniping in bfV was easily my favourite part
fervent rose
suomi had to be nerfed like 4 times
pine roost
With the way that sliding worked it just fit sniping so well
limpid pond
Yeah gun became mid
fervent rose
nah lmao
copper ice
turns out 50 mag smgs with good hipfire are chunky 
fervent rose
nah, 2a just had better reload
fervent rose
when everyone is beaming heads, the suomi would win trades
and that happened a lot in bfv
limpid pond
Bruh I could get on 5 right now and piss on people more with the 2a than the suomi
glacial quarry
PKP-BP: 267ms, 22 to 30m, 18 to 75m, 850rpm
Avancys: 312ms, 22 to 75m, 750 rpm
LCMG cqb short: 222ms, 28 to 20m, 22 to 50m, 18 to 100m, 750rpm
M60: 312ms, 28 to 75m, 22 to 150m, 550rpm
PBX-45 cqb: 200ms, 28 to 20m, 18 to 40m, 15 to 75m, 850rpm
G57: 312ms body, 111ms head+2body, 44ms head, 28 to 30m, 22 to 50m
AC-42: 334ms body, 111ms head+2body, 44ms head, 28 to 30m, 22 to 75m
M5A3 short: 267ms, 22 to 30m, 18 to 75m, 850rpm
AK24: 267ms, 28 to 10m, 22 to 75m, 650 rpm
SFAR standard: 267ms, 28 to 30m, 22 to 75m, 650rpm
SFAR heavy: 289ms, 28 to 50m, 22 to 150+m, 600rpm
BSV-M short: 245ms, 35 to 75m, 26 beyond, 400 rpm
SVK short: 267ms, 60 to 100m, 35 dmg beyond. hi power is 60 till 120m not worth. also headshot caps at 96
XM8: 312ms, 24 to 20m, 22 to 40m, 21 to 50m, 19 to 75m, 18 to 100+m, 750rpm
PP2000: 267ms, 28 to 40m, 18 to 75m, 650rpm
PP-29: 245ms, 28 to 30m, 22 to 50m, 18 to 75m, 700rpm
PP-29 hi power: 267ms, 28 to 30m, 22 to 75m, 650rpm
fervent rose
oh lawdy
pine roost
oh goodness me
glacial quarry
^ symthic was a bit out of date so i did some testing on weapons i would use think some people will find it useful here
copper ice
Bruh I could get on 5 right now and piss on people more with the 2a than the suo...
it was easier to use but it wasn't better
pine roost
cheers
eager spire
god this list is barely readable
pine roost
I assume it's standard for everything without a label
glacial quarry
i did for some
fervent rose
but standard isnt always the best choice
glacial quarry
i mean i didnt for the braindead obvious ones
fervent rose
nobody cares about standard mag Sfar
limpid pond
Yeah it's only drum mag scar
solar obsidian
im missing my floor on spearhead 🙂
copper ice
PKP-BP: 267ms, 22 to 30m, 18 to 75m, 850rpm
Avancys: 312ms, 22 to 75m, 750 rpm
L...
LCMG is 28 to 20m even with close combat? interesting
pastel loom
Better everything
the stats bar are the lowest though
except the fire rate being the highest
copper ice
god the svk has fucking insane kill speeds for being 2hk to ONE HUNDRED METRES
time to bust out the lcmg
fervent rose
LMGs are op yes
arctic grove
whens the new season out
glacial quarry
i think lcmg cqb short barrel or pp29 standard mag is the best
pbx best for TTK
or glock/ac42 headshots
fervent rose
m60 still has old scar model too
limpid pond
the stats bar are the lowest though
except the fire rate being the highest
Okay you're right I admit I was wrong
Suomi is the best
limpid pond
whens the new season out
28th
glacial quarry
ak24 is garbage
limpid pond
It's not
fervent rose
no it isnt
limpid pond
It's pretty good lmaoo
fervent rose
all the main ARs in 2042 are great
glacial quarry
bsvm is super op lol 245ms ttk till 75m
limpid pond
Stats show nothing when you headshot someone 1 time lma
graceful island
Game is back?
eager spire
¯_(ツ)_/¯
graceful island
Is this game good now since first season?
glacial quarry
problem with ak24 is its not that accurate and also its 4 shot till 20 meters only
might as well use a pbx or pp29
copper ice
pbx cc is borked so you better enjoy it before it gets fixed
glacial quarry
pbx is the new am40
copper ice
main advantage of ak over pp is the UBGL
limpid pond
It's not broken just the range is better than standard
glacial quarry
am40 is garbage unless youre right in their face
fervent rose
AK is the one AR you can run a fat drum on. It's the jack of all trades AR
copper ice
It's not broken just the range is better than standard
yeah, this isn't intentional
glacial quarry
cuz its no longer 4 shot at 10 meters
copper ice
they fucked it up
limpid pond
I know that but it still does nothing against a ar headshot
copper ice
also true!
limpid pond
There's a reason only like 3 people are using the pbx per game
copper ice
pbx good for hipfire though
limpid pond
But you'll see 12 lifers with a sfar
limpid pond
It's always been solid. Still not gonna win against a pp29
glacial quarry
pbx has the best body shot ttk
fervent rose
smg in a game with maps too big for most smg
copper ice
850rpm 4btk to 20m is really good
glacial quarry
other i would say is lcmg short barrel cqb round
limpid pond
Yea that's inna perfect world with the most coordinated person ever
Everyone misses bullets
pine roost
ak's pretty accurate
limpid pond
Of course it is
dapper river
I hope more people sleep on the PP-2000 because it's actually great
limpid pond
It's a slow firerate beamer
fervent rose
airsoft gun
limpid pond
Pp2000 shoots to slow
glacial quarry
pp2000 is super good now
copper ice
portal gun
fervent rose
that kills many
glacial quarry
PP2000: 267ms, 28 to 40m, 18 to 75m, 650rpm
limpid pond
No one's gonna use a smg that fires 600 rpm
dapper river
Pp2000 shoots to slow
but the damage per shot is 
glacial quarry
pp2000 has same ttk as ak24
but its up till 40m instead of 20m lol
just has shit headshots cuz smg
its better than ak24
but past 40m its dog
copper ice
wait, the ak is 20m 4btk even on standard ammo?
dapper river
just has shit headshots cuz smg
"SMGs should not reward accuracy" -Digital Illusions, CE (2022)
limpid pond
Where you getting these stats from
glacial quarry
thats y i said its shit
pine roost
can't say this isn't accurate
copper ice
what does high power do for it
limpid pond
Yeah saying the ak isn't accurate makes me question your testing
glacial quarry
idk i didnt test high power cuz i didnt see myself using it
spiral folio
I actually liked the pre-change 08/18 in bf1. Before it was slower and more accurate.
After it was just a shot spammer
glacial quarry
its not accurate compared to guns with similar dmg output like sfar
the spread seems dumb
solar obsidian
Yeah saying the ak isn't accurate makes me question your testing
its a player issue 🙂
limpid pond
100%
spiral folio
Or like the mp5 is a slower more accurate smg due to delayed blowback
glacial quarry
Yeah saying the ak isn't accurate makes me question your testing
feel free to double test everything listed there
tbh accuracy isnt too big of an issue for me
battlefield guns usually have like no recoil anyway
unless u using some crazy firepower gun
pine roost
battlefield guns usually have like no recoil anyway
what range where you testing it's accuracy at?
glacial quarry
i didnt test accuracy i just tried ak24 in real games and didnt like it
it just didnt feel more accurate than better dps guns like sfar
or lcmg
copper ice
feel free to double test everything listed there
ak24 standard ammo is 5btk past 10m
glacial quarry
so i didnt see any point in using it
copper ice
glacial quarry
is it? lemme check
glacial quarry
i mean i dont even have the high power unlocked
let me test again
p surei ts 20m when i tested it
copper ice
it's got a 2 round burst mode
it's consistently leaving everything with health at 15m
fervent rose
yea standard ammo ak24 goes to 22 after 10m
copper ice
which is really bad range
low timber
Got the NVK-P125 to T1 
copper ice
it's just a platform for the masterkey and UBGL
there's no need to actually shoot bullets
glacial quarry
i mean in its defense its 5 shot kill till 75m
fervent rose
5btk to 75m isnt that bad
glacial quarry
but literally at that point just use a sfar
fervent rose
its highly accurate
glacial quarry
4 shot kill till 50m
pine roost
honestly the scar feels like it's less accurate than the ak
fervent rose
it has more hrec and spread so it should
ivory canopy
I've had a lot of fun with the AM40 tbh
glacial quarry
am40 is really good
but they gutted it
still has lowest ttk on par with pbx
but its only till 10m
pine roost
it has more hrec and spread so it should
yeah horizontal is what I notice most here
ivory canopy
The first 60 kills, not so much because it uses the heavy ammo by default. Once I got the regular ammo I was kicking ass.
copper ice
i can't use scar to save my life, i'll keep it on target but the thing bounces sideways like a fucking horse
fervent rose
AM40 is great, just not for every area
ivory canopy
One thing I really like is that 4.5x optic with the canted irons.
glacial quarry
but the best gun if you can get ammo constantly is bsvm no doubt
shit is just busted
ivory canopy
Yup
glacial quarry
only reason i don't use it is cuz i run out of ammo before i die lol
ivory canopy
I found the VSS funny in BC2 but I honestly preferred the SVU in that game.
fervent rose
i always ran ammo box with bsvm
glacial quarry
ya ammo box with falck
copper ice
bsv is nutty
glacial quarry
only way to play it unless you have a bot giving you ammo all the way
fiery solar
Bsvm fun
pine roost
yeah I'd definitely stick to the ak for range
glacial quarry
try m60e4 too
copper ice
they made the bsv way too good at range for having built in suppressor and decent subsonics
glacial quarry
4 shot kill till 75m
fervent rose
m60 still has the old scar damage
pine roost
then again it's my first main gun so i'm somewhat biased
fervent rose
ye very strong
ivory canopy
Speaking of which, the SVU would be a nice addition from the vault to AOW (glares at EA DICE devs)
fiery solar
4 headshots kill right
glacial quarry
or just svk
ivory canopy
Yes
willow sky
yeah I'd definitely stick to the ak for range
ak mains 😎
glacial quarry
🤡
ivory canopy
SVK was one of the few guns that wasn't broken at launch.
pine roost
in all honesty though the difference seems to be that the scar has maybe a degree more horiztonal spread
both seem to perform practically the same at range
glacial quarry
got 5k kills 3.3 kpm with post nerf avancys before i even realised it wasnt a 4 shot kill point blank
im actually so mad
copper ice
4 shot kill till 75m
the fucking m60 has this?
glacial quarry
yes
copper ice
glacial quarry
oh right did i forget to mention
suppressed m39 emr is bugged
its like a one hit headshot till like 50m or something lmao
the suppressor adds damage and range
😂
pine roost
i feel like that's intentional
eager spire
i feel like that's intentional
I thought they changed it so the non-suppressed barrel does that instead of the suppressed one
glacial quarry
its only bugged when suppressed
pine roost
we were discussing it the other day, they flipped over the values but never changed them, they wouldn't leave them with incorrect values
eager spire
unless they didn't actually push that change
pine roost
its only bugged when suppressed
they flipped them over a few days ago
pine roost
unless they didn't actually push that change
nah they did
eager spire
okay
glacial quarry
ah they changed it
i was surprised not more ppl were abusing it
ppl should abuse pp2000 now its actually dumb
pine roost
how do you interact with the menu in nonam3's?
naive magnet
Do the doors automatically close on renewal when there’s a storm?
limpid pond
Just dropped 59 kills with the ak24
Yet my team still manage to lose
I was in rush with 59 kills 11 deaths 7 activates, 13 assists and 6 revives
copper ice
rush XL is silly
limpid pond
My second highest teammate had 33 kills than everyone had below 20
next gulch
Yes, you can’t carry your team to victory because there’s 63 other players now
glacial quarry
i went 120-25 in breakthrough on defense before and my team still lost
inner ether
Either Sundance grenade is bugged or Irish APS is bugged, because the splinter grenade doesn't consistently get destroyed anymore, leading to a lot of frustrating when it ignores the APS. Kinda wish I could post this on the sub but the character limit and all makes that impossible because there's not much more to say about it.
limpid pond
I dropped 149 and lost
glacial quarry
stranded defense is my favourite map
willow sky
i kinda miss breakthrough on the bf3 maps
next gulch
Speaking of losing, I actually had a very very close game yesterday. Very rare in this game.
next gulch
99% of my matches end in overwhelming win or defeat
copper ice
the pp2000 has some atrocious spread
limpid pond
Had a game where it came down to the wire had 8 lives left hit 0 as we were capping the final obj and won
pine roost
tomorrow I've got the chance to play for most of the day which I look forward to
limpid pond
tomorrow I've got the chance to play for most of the day which I look forward to
I'm off today so I'm playing today
copper ice
Either Sundance grenade is bugged or Irish APS is bugged, because the splinter g...
it's a consistent APS failure i think but im not complaining that one thing in the entire game can actually break it
next gulch
Discarded I have really good matches in, so I expect that to end when they rework it
pine roost
I'm off today so I'm playing today
I had today off too but had some uni work to do. That's all done now though which is great :)
Can work on improving for a few hours
silver arch
When does season 4 release
next gulch
Next Tuesday
limpid pond
I really like paiks new skin aside from the wack overdrapping shirt
inner ether
When does season 4 release
If you go into the game it tells you right there
pine roost
slowly getting more consistent, but that's not really possible in this game
limpid pond
Like the colorscheme is amazing but couldn't have gone with a more tactical thing?
pine roost
steady growth is what keep me interested though
inner ether
Like the colorscheme is amazing but couldn't have gone with a more tactical thin...
Wouldn't notice something that isn't neon colored!
limpid pond
Wouldn't notice something that isn't neon colored!
I meant in terms of the actual skin. Could have gone with a more futuristic military armored skin tbh
inner ether
Bright green is sure to be good against the light brown...
Blending in by sticking out
They won't expect it
solar obsidian
bp 100
limpid pond
Blending in by sticking out
10000000IQ play
solar obsidian
not some huge achievement but seeing as i was almost throwing up every time i played this game a week into the season i would say it went better than expected
limpid pond
Instead of stealth run in blasting they won't expect that
inner ether
Instead of stealth run in blasting they won't expect that
Stealth heli? Put some 1 million Lumens lights on it, they won't even able to look at it
solar obsidian
fire skin to heli
how about this
led strips on the edges of the helis that changes color depending on your pc setup
all in sync
pulsing with the beat of your music
inner ether
led strips on the edges of the helis that changes color depending on your pc set...
Ads, we're putting ads on the vehicles. WIth sound.
Have you ever driven the MAV? It's got a radio that blasts music, I love it.
Press B while driving it
solar obsidian
Have you ever driven the MAV? It's got a radio that blasts music, I love it.
i know
copper ice
goddamn the m60 4btk to 75m feels good
why are the weapon ranges so inconsistent lmao
spiral folio
Maybe aleks hasnt fired a gun
inner ether
I put long barrel and armor pen ammo on my LCMG so that I can pretend it's a 50 caliber. It definitely sounds like one.
chug chug chug chug
copper ice
you're gimping yourself very hard with AP ammo unfortunately
unless they changed that while i wasn't looking
inner ether
Yeah 75 shots isn't good but it kills pretty good
spiral folio
Because it's primarily AA
acoustic seal
why are the weapon ranges so inconsistent lmao
can you believe 50m pp2000 was going to be a thing lmao
glacial quarry
i miss when 57mm just destroyed infantry
inner ether
the Wildcat is a modular platform, it's not primarily anything
spiral folio
You can make it into a light tank to your own detriment
glacial quarry
pp2000 is still 40m
inner ether
it does less damage
I meant the High Power ammo, sorry
copper ice
Because it's primarily AA
the 30mm has no right being as shit against infantry as it is
it's like 8hk
acoustic seal
pp2000 is still 40m
still stupid but not as egregiously stupid
copper ice
30mm on jeep shits on infantry
glacial quarry
not as much as it used to
limpid pond
Donate some boins to the poor
glacial quarry
not even close
inner ether
30mm on jeep shits on infantry
It's also good anti-heli
pine roost
don't know why the jeep needs it
glacial quarry
50mm was also stupid strong in the past
spiral folio
the 30mm has no right being as shit against infantry as it is
Neither does 20mm
limpid pond
All of it was
pine roost
the weapons vehicles have access to is just wack at the moment
glacial quarry
did they recently buff 50mm on heli
inner ether
50mm is still good against other vehicles
limpid pond
The fact that you couldn't move when getting shot at proves that
glacial quarry
feel like it reloads faster now
inner ether
50mm is fun to use against helis and transports
spiral folio
The balance choices games make to discourage using weapons in ways they dont want
copper ice
did they recently buff 50mm on heli
yeah, 6 sec reload to 4.5
glacial quarry
nice
copper ice
6 second reload was insane
inner ether
Yeah because what the god damned Hind needed was buffs
ahrfalnfiwkrarawrhffwkw3tw3qaf
copper ice
Neither does 20mm
we have 20mm?
spiral folio
Yea you can carry it even
copper ice
designated heli loadout is still nade launcher
inner ether
Unless it's a squad crew who hunt vehicles.
See, you need to destroy the Hind when it spawns with the Tor or you risk having it obliterate every tank on the map.
You do it by flying just above the tanks, in the blind spot
copper ice
you're better off farming infantry with it
copper ice
nade launcher tears up infantry while dropping people onto tanks for c5 is more effecient
copper ice
Yea you can carry it even
wait am i stupid what weapon is 20mm
spiral folio
The ntw
inner ether
Massive HP, 2 engineers repairing it, emergency repair button for a free third HP back, takes hits like a tank and dishes them out just the same with great manouverability.
spiral folio
Even though its weak af
copper ice
ohhhh the ntw
lmfao
it's weak because getting ohk is ANNOYING
and because it's supposed to be decent against vehicles
(it's not)
inner ether
It's annoying to vehicles at best
copper ice
Massive HP, 2 engineers repairing it, emergency repair button for a free third H...
yeah i hate the damn helis
they're a nightmare
spiral folio
Yea the size of a m2 50cal. The power of a .308
inner ether
The Hind is a nightmare.
The Condor isn't because of it's horrendous transformation time
big, wide, slowmoving target
pine roost
I don't get why they decided to give it a buff
copper ice
it's an easier target to hit but it's got the same capabilities
inner ether
I don't even know why we have it, the US military isn't using that type of VTOL
spiral folio
Yea hind is way more agile. Theyre way harder to hit than a condor
copper ice
because hehe funny asymmetrical gameplay
inner ether
it's an easier target to hit but it's got the same capabilities
It's great weakness is how immobile it is and it's what m akes it much less of a threat.
spiral folio
The irl benefits of the condor dont matter when you make the hind into a flying tank
copper ice
It's great weakness is how immobile it is and it's what m akes it much less of a...
when it doesn't die it's irrelevant
inner ether
The real VTOL considered for use in the US army in the future is much smaller.
copper ice
they just don't die
inner ether
when it doesn't die it's irrelevant
When it doesn't move it does die.
spiral folio
Like irl the condor/osprey are extremely fast and can deploy troops rapidly to any location. That's bery useful. But like the ingame hind is magically durable and responds to throttle like a superbike
pine roost
it doesn't need a cannon that manages to surpass attack aircraft
inner ether
Even in VTOL mode it can't dodge squat
pine roost
Like irl the condor/osprey are extremely fast and can deploy troops rapidly to a...
I saw one a few weeks back irl actually
inner ether
The Hind can dance around Lissiles and M5's
pine roost
which is strange cause I'm not in the us
spiral folio
One advantage of a real condor would be even if the engine goes out, it can somewhat glide where a help without a prop is a paperweight
inner ether
One advantage of a real condor would be even if the engine goes out, it can some...
Heli's that lose their engine have ways of going down safely too.
spiral folio
The real benefit is the rapid deployment which is useless in the game
inner ether
You have some rotation as you go down
spiral folio
A heli needs its rotor 100% intact to land without power
copper ice
double repairboys keep that shit up regardless of what is hitting it
spiral folio
Engine isnt vital but the prop must be intact
inner ether
Condor isn't real by the way. Osprey is.
spiral folio
Condor is just a jet-ified osprey
ember charm
If they just made the rotor actually hit things and damage the helis, that would be a decent nerf
inner ether
Probably some trademark reasons they don't name it that way
Considering how the makers of the Humvee wanted to sue over the use of it's name in Call of Duty
spiral folio
The advantage a jet version would have is being able to take off quicker or land differently
The ospreys props are too large to run engines parallel to the ground
inner ether
Wouldn't jets kick up a hell of a lot of dirt?
Possibly set fire to things
Not that proprellers dont kick up debris
spiral folio
You need as much power as it takes to lift the vehicle whether it comes from a jet or a prop
radiant prism
Probably ys
limpid pond
Hopefully it's good and not filled with campers
spiral folio
The problem with a jet engine is spooling up/down
radiant prism
I think it uses a pulse jet type system
Given the rumbling noise it makes in hover mode
spiral folio
Like itd be hard to make a quadcopter with jets because fine control is harder with jets
inner ether
Is it easier to maintain a propeller type?
spiral folio
You'd need like a way to apply brakes and motors to basically supercharge them to spool up faster
Propellers can adjust pitch to change thrust
Maintenance probably factors in too l
inner ether
And production cost
spiral folio
The C130s are all jet engines now too
inner ether
ANd fuel
spiral folio
AC130s are generally the c130s that are more used up
copper ice
Hopefully it's good and not filled with campers
it's 128p
throw nade at someone
hits him in the back
he throws it back without turning it around and it blows up in midair before hitting my face
i hate this game
copper ice
idk how the fuck that even happened
limpid pond
Yo rush 128p is amamz8ng
Like yo there's so many medics so many fights so many everything
eager spire
you okay, seems like you had a bit of a stroke
copper ice
128p
solid imp
Honestly 128 is chaotic in a good way and Rush XL takes that out to the extreme.. it's so funneled that it's always Metro front escalator 100% of the time.
copper ice
i do not find the server overloading to be fun
eager spire
that sounds like a particular kind of hell.
radiant talon
I just want 128p Breakthrough back 
solid imp
same man... same
eager spire
ah yes the mode they removed because it literally did not work at all even slightly
solid imp
128 BT is chaos but even better than Rush XL with the flags farther apart than the MCOMs ever are
128 BT was legit fun
radiant talon
ah yes the mode they removed because it literally did not work at all even sligh...
it's a cluster fuck, sure, but you don't need to be so dramatic about it
eager spire
i'm not.
eager spire
that's why they removed it, is it not?
radiant talon
lol
solid imp
it's the cluster that makes it great 😄
radiant talon
yes it is
eager spire
so i am not being dramatic
radiant talon
you are
eager spire
no i'm not.
still vault
chaos breakthough was very fun, ngl
solid imp
radiant talon
yee
i remember when everyone spawned out in the open and you could jet roadkill them all
not that we need that again
but i admit i want to do it at least one more time
eager spire
fantasic mode design
solid imp
But picture 128 BT that isn't Orbital rooftop action but more accessible
copper ice
saying the servers can't handle 128p isn't exaggeration
radiant talon
But picture 128 BT that isn't Orbital rooftop action but more accessible
yes pls
fervent rose
the avg pc cant handle 128 either
wise zodiac
solid imp
ok now I have to say my piece again... Boris with a + menu to switch between standard ammo or convert to mortar 🙂
still vault
mortars, pixelaiming and chaos breakthrough, sounds like a recipe for disaster
copper ice
a real monkeys paw there
boris not being the worst specialist in the game, but mortars
naive magnet
Just give me a ray gun
solid imp
But also... remember they have done a huge amount to balance out the things which really ruined 128 BT: Bolte, 50mm on the Hind/Condor, 30mm splash damage causing soldiers to do crazy stuff,...
naive magnet
It’s 2042, why don’t I have a lightsaber?
copper ice
they did nothing about zain airburst getting 7+ multikills
solid imp
More Irish
spiral folio
Lightsabers werent invented until 2075
fervent rose
But also... remember they have done a huge amount to balance out the things whic...
even after these nerfs hind is still wildly op
naive magnet
Lightsabers werent invented until 2075
Oh fuck my bad
eager spire
as if there aren't other things that could ruin 128 BT which is why they've not even bothered putting it back
naive magnet
How often does that trigger honestly
spiral folio
Yea she has the special ability to watch where she steps
naive magnet
1/1000 minutes
spiral folio
OoOoo
naive magnet
Of playing haha
solid imp
even after these nerfs hind is still wildly op
In the hands of some of the really really good pilots, agreed.. but most pilots are potatoes who either go hover over a flag, taxi+bail, or jerk the thing around so wildly thinking they are "maneuvering" that they don't give their gunners any shots
patent prism
I hadn't noticed that before in the trailer tbh
fervent rose
the 50mm/gl seat should be removed
solid imp
I think it's 2 claymore deaths for me
fervent rose
its way too easy to farm breakthrough with the hind and condor
copper ice
More Irish
irish is op in his own way, and 128p servers can't handle the the strain which causes tick rate to fluctuate which causes explosives to slip through irish APS radius
naive magnet
Someone got a crafty claymore on renewal A2 through a broken wall
Smart play
I remember thinking “fuck”
copper ice
claymore is irritating but it's just not worth picking as a gadget with how open most of the maps are
patent prism
I have gotten 4 kills with claymores since they were introduced, and the fact that I can readily recall the exact number of kills says a lot about how effective they are.
naive magnet
I got 5 kills with a single AT mine earlier
copper ice
their range isn't bad or anything there's just so much room to move in that claymores tend not to hit anyone
solid imp
Love those 5 bombs with a mine 🙂 Thank you MAV
limpid pond
Nevermind is retract what I said 128 p rush is bad
fervent rose
giant maps with very little predictable flow makes claymore not so op
eager spire
lemme guess you died more than 10 times and now you hate life
fervent rose
128 rush is mindless zerging
naive magnet
This is one of my favorite dumb AT Mine vids https://www.xbox.com/play/media/JTB7X3DGNJ
fervent rose
but "the chaos"
limpid pond
Everyone's just like trench warfare
copper ice
lcmg is actually fucking op
been using close combat shorty lcmg it feels like being god thank you for recommendation
naive magnet
Back when Falck had AT mines 🥲
copper ice
a shame lcmg doesn't get 2.5x thermal
naive magnet
You like LCMG more than Avancys?
copper ice
m5a3 is m5a3, but this is definitely tearing the place up
close combat ammo for LCMG is still 4hk out to 30m as well
patent prism
Sudden theory; DICE deliberately release games in a shitty state so they have an excuse to abandon them early to work on the next game and get even more $$$$
copper ice
very fast for long 4btk range
copper ice
lmgs are not the beeeest at that range
naive magnet
Yeah it hurts
naive magnet
If it’s still a 4HK vs 5HK
That’s a win
I’m such a noob at this game I’ve played like 6 guns total
But the scar just works
Like honestly; is there a better gun?
copper ice
just had a bolte drive over my mines, killed me and all my allies around me and took no damage from them
i hate this fucking game
glacial quarry
yeah lcmg is the best lmg now
LCMG cqb short: 222ms, 28 to 20m, 22 to 50m, 18 to 100m, 750rpm
it has decent range too
still prefer pp29
eager spire
just had a bolte drive over my mines, killed me and all my allies around me and ...
skill issue /j
naive magnet
I’m thinking of using high power rounds on Avancys
I’ll take the clip loss
50 > 4 people
spiral folio
You cant carry c5 and clays at the same time but if you put your c5s near somebody else's clay will it set off your c5s
spiral folio
I just shoot em
fervent rose
you can disarm them with interact i think
spiral folio
50cal lmg when
patent prism
Also that indian recon specialist can disarm them with his sleeve computer
fervent rose
casper drone can probably hack em too
patent prism
I actually haven't tried that, and I play mainly Casper.
spiral folio
Also that indian recon specialist can disarm them with his sleeve computer
Chandra Gupta
And it'd a pipboy
naive magnet
I actually haven't tried that, and I play mainly Casper.
You’re too busy hacking my wildcat
patent prism
You’re too busy hacking my wildcat
Exactly.
spiral folio
He's the least bad recon
patent prism
Though I am a little annoyed with how taking any damage while operating the drone auto-closes your drone feed
glacial quarry
tbh the only thing i hate about lcmg is that i cant use suppressor
makes flank wipes a lot harder
but it destroys people super good
patent prism
Very annoying when you're assault-deploying the drone to disable the tank chasing your squad down
copper ice
casper sucks because you either play the game or you spot for 20 minutes
glacial quarry
i use wrapped suppressor on p much everything i can cuz theres legit no downside
don't need compensator anyway
patent prism
i use wrapped suppressor on p much everything i can cuz theres legit no downside
Man after my own heart.
spiral folio
A mini-plane drone would be better. Have it zip around real quick. Spot dome ho's. Return.
fervent rose
casper sucks because you either play the game or you spot for 20 minutes
casper if you tryhard with the drone is genuinely obnoxious. ambush every incoming player
copper ice
but my 10% velocity...
patent prism
I can't recall who made this point but some time ago there was a discussion on this Discord about there being practically no long-range specialist gadgets.
glacial quarry
lis
glacial quarry
lis is your long range specialist
spiral folio
There are literally no sniper specialists
eager spire
what would a sniper specialist even do
glacial quarry
for people who either hate vehicles or are too pussy to mackay grapple c5 tanks
spiral folio
Its all close range except the lis rocket
eager spire
the railgun already exists and invalidates every sniper rifle that exists
fervent rose
100m airburst isnt close range but sure
patent prism
Rao can only disable nearby vehicles, Casper can only fly his drone short-range, Paik can only wallhack people nearby.
spiral folio
100m isnt long range
fervent rose
it's not short
spiral folio
Its medium at best
glacial quarry
i consider anything past 75m long tbh
fervent rose
100m is pretty long in battlefield
patent prism
100m is pretty long in battlefield
Ha, no. (Subjective opinion)
glacial quarry
cuz 75m is where the drop off for most gun dmgs become significant
fervent rose
@patent prism the average engagement range is definitely lower than the 100m airburst range
copper ice
Rao can only disable nearby vehicles, Casper can only fly his drone short-range,...
i had this same issue
spiral folio
If I get a kill at 100m im not even interested
naive magnet
I’d like to take this moment to express my discontent with being unable to message all chat after games on Xbox
copper ice
they give recon infinite sniper focus but all the recon gadgets are for ranges closer than sway ever mattering
spiral folio
Sniper perk doesnt even work for the rail i dont think because "its not a sniper rifle"
Its utility
eager spire
again like i said the railgun exists and makes using a sniper rifle practically worthless so what would a "sniper specialist" even do?
patent prism
they give recon infinite sniper focus but all the recon gadgets are for ranges c...
Exactly this, though I have had some problems "discovering" any viable long-range specialist gadget.
eager spire
what could it do that would be useful?
glacial quarry
@copper ice cqb short barrel lcmg is 20m 4 shot kill
you could try standard rounds its 30m
just fires slightly slower
patent prism
I guess longer range drone would be one option.
hybrid totem
soflam is a long range recon gadget
glacial quarry
but the ttk is still insanely low at 245ms rather than 222ms
spiral folio
again like i said the railgun exists and makes using a sniper rifle practically ...
Replaces the main weapon slot with a 14.5mm antimaterial rifle with limited wall penetration
north lion
wait is the new season out already
fervent rose
the casper drone is long range
copper ice
either way it's tearing house this is awesome
fervent rose
rao hack is long range
spiral folio
Antithermal cloak
glacial quarry
the range is a lot better
patent prism
the casper drone is long range
The Casper drone is not long range.
eager spire
Replaces the main weapon slot with a 14.5mm antimaterial rifle with limited wall...
ah yes give a single specialist a gun that can shoot through walls. there's no way that won't be annoying at all.
copper ice
rao hack is only 100m for ground
spiral folio
I dont care if its annoying as long as you can defend every single annoying gadget in the game for all situations including the hind
eager spire
"Antithermal cloak" thermal scopes don't even work properly in the game at the moment
patent prism
<@130020703989661696> ?? you can spot entire teams
Yet you have to be rather close to not "lose connection" to the drone.
eager spire
they're literally not lined up with the center of the screen.
spiral folio
They seemed to work when i used it
hybrid totem
vehicles need gadget choices
worn iris
Is bf 2042 120fps on Xbox Series X?
hybrid totem
right now nothing is even close to thermal smoke
spiral folio
Even bf1/5 had wall penetration.
hybrid totem
except maybe the bolte's missile launcher
fervent rose
Yet you have to be rather close to not "lose connection" to the drone.
they nerfed that range actually, and for good reason
eager spire
BFV did, don't think BF1 did.
copper ice
they nerfed that range actually, and for good reason
i agree with this, but it kind of also proves his point
fervent rose
it's still able to spot entire teams from safety
eager spire
i don't think BF1 did at all actually.
patent prism
they nerfed that range actually, and for good reason
Doesn't change the fact that it is still a short-range gadget.
fervent rose
it's not, though
patent prism
It is.
fervent rose
you never have to get close to danger to spot the entire team
its not a close range gadget
fervent rose
a TUGS is a close range gadget
copper ice
why is lis's recharge rate so slow i can't fucking kill this thing before it regens
glacial quarry
@copper ice LCMG cqb short: 222ms, 28 to 20m, 22 to 50m, 18 to 100m, 750rpm
LCMG standard short: 245ms, 28 to 30m, 22 to 100m, 700rpm
LCMG high short: 267ms, 28 to 50m, 22 to 200m+, 650rpm
honestly all the ammo is good on lcmg
just use short barrel
copper ice
<@1011394572846366812> LCMG cqb short: 222ms, 28 to 20m, 22 to 50m, 18 to 100m...
267 to 50m? good god
patent prism
you never have to get close to danger to spot the entire team
Maybe potentially if you're playing Rush or Breakthrough, but presuming you are playing 128 conquest, there is no fucking way you're spotting the entire enemy team.
fervent rose
Okay well 128 maps are stupid
copper ice
i might just alternate between cc and hp
fervent rose
i dont consider them
spiral folio
<@1011394572846366812> LCMG cqb short: 222ms, 28 to 20m, 22 to 50m, 18 to 100m...
Could ya
Arrange
The data
Like
Thus
fervent rose
you are right that 128 map design makes these things seem "smaller" but on breakthrough they are definitely not
glacial quarry
but ill prob avoid high power cuz of ammo
either cqb or standard think ill prefer standard now
copper ice
ah piss the ammo
spiral folio
If you dont shoot over 100m it wont matter
glacial quarry
also standard was way better than i thought
copper ice
yeah fair enough 200 > 75
glacial quarry
its not 200
i just stopped testing at 200
no point
usually i dont bother shooting anyone over 120m
i would just use standard
22 dmg till 100m is quite insane
copper ice
i mean the ammo amount lel
fervent rose
yep
glacial quarry
and 28 dmg till 30m
copper ice
that really is nutty
glacial quarry
the fact that barrel length makes no difference on dmg drop off makes short barrel op and extended barrel useless
fervent rose
has anyone datamined what the engineer lmg bonus is
glacial quarry
lmg bonus on engineer is the most dumb random thing ever
ebon pilot
the fact that barrel length makes no difference on dmg drop off makes short barr...
it essentially makes it easier to control recoil at longer ranges
spiral folio
Yea just control which is nice and vague
ebon pilot
have you ever tried to hit someone at 100m with close-combat rounds and a short barrel on the M5A3
spiral folio
Im sure their theory is anti vehicle stuff is medium range or something
glacial quarry
have you ever tried to hit someone at 100m with close-combat rounds and a short ...
yes actually lmao
glacial quarry
oh wait
cc rounds
first of all no one in their right mind will use cc rounds on m5a3 its so bad
fervent rose
cc rounds in general are just bad now on m5a3
sturdy socket
i love when people actually listen to me in chat and hold on till i get there as falck
glacial quarry
but standard round short barrel still kills at 100m
sturdy socket
best teammates
glacial quarry
the recoil and spread on m5a3 is so low you can beam people comfortably up till 75m
fervent rose
way past that
glacial quarry
100m can still kill fast if u get lucky with headshots
m5a3 is quite nutty
prob my favourite AR
use standard extended and short barrel
fervent rose
short barrel standard can go 100m while full strafing
fervent rose
stand still and crouch, youll hit 150m
glacial quarry
also i always wanted to ask this
LWG grip vs bcg light grip
do they give the same accuracy bonus when the requirements are met
like does moving ads with LWG grip give the same bonus as moving ads with bcg light grip
elder meteor
do they give the same accuracy bonus when the requirements are met
ask the manager...
glacial quarry
cos i honestly cant decide which to use lmao
copper ice
like does moving ads with LWG grip give the same bonus as moving ads with bcg li...
would be great if they told us
sturdy socket
does the laser sight actually increase the gun's accuracy or just your hipfire accuracy
because it increases the actual accuracy stat
more than a grip
fervent rose
i just dont run bcg on guns that i hipfire
fervent rose
lwg / bcg is about the same though
glacial quarry
so i have no idea what to use frankly
fervent rose
you should add crouch shooting into your gameplay, you can really extend your range in 2042
glacial quarry
i do
but i still move about
to avoid getting hit as much
standing sitll is just asking to get one framed in the head
solar obsidian
🐺
fervent rose
you can absolutely beam in 2042 with 0 moving spread penalty
arguably shit is too accurate
plain hare
Does anyone else experience crazy packet loss despite good internet connection on 64v64? I mean even 64v64 works fine in portal for me
Weird af
glacial quarry
its like that in most bf games
fervent rose
128 does not run well
glacial quarry
recoil is p much non existent except on the most high firepower of guns
copper ice
128p overloads the servers
plain hare
My God I just wish they'd keep exodus conquest permanently
fervent rose
its like that in most bf games
this is definitely the easiest gunplay bf has ever had
glacial quarry
first shot recoil actually matters when trying to be super accurate
otherwise its super easy to control
patent prism
Okay well 128 maps are stupid
Are you actually this dumb or just playing dumb?
fervent rose
Do you think the 128 maps are smartly designed?
fervent rose
💀
arctic grove
I am the ultimate elevator defender
This guy is a menace dear god💀
limpid pond
Not for anything less
patent prism
Do you think the 128 maps are smartly designed?
Some are, some are not.
plain hare
I fucking love that
limpid pond
This guy is a menace dear god💀
I was having to single Handley carry my team
fervent rose
They were so well designed dice had to remake every launch map, something they never did before
spiral folio
Ive said it like 20 times but 128 mode is like the mcrib. If they did it all the time itd be awful. But if they do it as a random special event, its temporary fun
limpid pond
You don't understand the pain I went through just to get up to that roof
glacial quarry
lol i miss the old hourglass breakthrough
limpid pond
lol i miss the old hourglass breakthrough
Same
glacial quarry
i remember getting like 50+ kills by tank shelling the elevator
copper ice
fuck that final obj
limpid pond
Same with breakaway breakthrough
copper ice
hell to push
limpid pond
True
patent prism
They were so well designed dice had to remake every launch map, something they n...
I didn't play at launch because the Beta was f u c k i n g terrible
limpid pond
But once you got on the roofs it was game
copper ice
god i wish boris didn't suck
plain hare
Here's a crazy idea, how about not trying to cram as many people into a game for marketing purposes?
arctic grove
Eh
glacial quarry
my favourite is stranded on defense
arctic grove
128 BT fun
drowsy rose
Was the stinger removed????
copper ice
Here's a crazy idea, how about not trying to cram as many people into a game for...
at dice, we find it important to listen to your feedback. we're going to put 256 in the next game
limpid pond
I'm maining rush have been for a tad bit now
arctic grove
at dice, we find it important to listen to your feedback. we're going to put 256...
MOR
limpid pond
Use to do only Breakthrough back during launch
Then conquest. Now both of them don't cut it for me
arctic grove
Use to do only Breakthrough back during launch
Same that shit was so chaotic
plain hare
Wouldn't be surprised
arctic grove
It was fun
limpid pond
It was fun
glacial quarry
but its quite lame
patent prism
By the way, is there any publicly available data on what game modes are played the most?
glacial quarry
where can i post clips
fervent rose
current breakthrough is a much better experience than the 128 shitshow they had at launch
its night and day
copper ice
probably have to link them if you can't upload
arctic grove
where can i post clips
Gotta be tier 1
spiral folio
256 player iron sight nwts only. Form skirmishing lines and fire
copper ice
massive player counts just suck for any kind of actual gameplay but people love them because le chaos xD
same shit happened in mordhau
plain hare
I actually love playing this game and especially conquest, but man 128 players is just pushing the netcode so damn hard
glacial quarry
i want 128 player breakthru
arctic grove
I actually love playing this game and especially conquest, but man 128 players i...
Not for me
plain hare
Not for me<:CursedCat:869694866752405554>
copper ice
i want 128 player breakthru
begone demon
arctic grove
begone demon
No he’s preaching
patent prism
current breakthrough is a much better experience than the 128 shitshow they had ...
I can't speak about "at launch" so I'm just going to drop this line of discussion because I am unable to speak intelligently on "at launch"-matters.
copper ice
holy fuck SVK is fast
arctic grove
128 would work
fervent rose
i mean it's also way better than it was even 6 months ago. taking out attack/stealth helis was smart
arctic grove
Maps wer just ass
glacial quarry
check #streams-and-videos this is why defense on stranded is my favourite
patent prism
I bought 2042 in December of 2022.
edgy oriole
128 was more fun 64 is too easy and boring imo
limpid pond
I agree
arctic grove
128 was more fun 64 is too easy and boring imo
Plus u find more fights in 128
hybrid totem
wait wtf taser baton? I didn't see that in the preview
limpid pond
64 players if you get like a easy lobby they'll suffer the whole game as you run through them
arctic grove
wait wtf taser baton? I didn't see that in the preview
Yes we get zappy sticc
copper ice
check <#174646583021928460> this is why defense on stranded is my favourite
brb about to try this
arctic grove
Bf1 is better than bf 2042
arctic grove
i got like 80 kills in a 15min game lol
Exciting
glacial quarry
do it with lcmg cqb short barrel
silk surge
My main weapon is FINALLY getting a legendary skin!! Finally I get to sport my 29 PPs with style.
limpid pond
Yo I wish I had a clip on stranded of me just chucking c5 up on the ledge you kept killing people on
arctic grove
My main weapon is FINALLY getting a legendary skin!! Finally I get to sport my 2...
Look at that scope
Bf1 is now full with Toxin kids ans hackers
limpid pond
I was 20 and 0
arctic grove
So beautiful
glacial quarry
or even 12m auto
something with high ammo so you can kill like 6 ppl without reloading
limpid pond
It actually looks great
glacial quarry
pp29 would be good for it too
limpid pond
I dig chromoly skins
limpid pond
Pretty sure that is the pp29
lucid goblet
Green & black be looking 🔥
limpid pond
Looks good
arctic grove
Recon and support
sturdy socket
well that sucks
limpid pond
Yep pp29
sturdy socket
of all the things they brought back into the series, the devs thought allowing high accuracy in ADS while jumping was a good idea
arctic grove
Tbh Boris and Zain should get the other black and green skins
limpid pond
Is that a gas mask skin for Sundance
arctic grove
No it’s for Sundance
arctic grove
It’s not a gas mask I think
fervent rose
of all the things they brought back into the series, the devs thought allowing h...
you could jump shot people in bfv too.
not brand new to 2042
arctic grove
It’s prob a dramatic air filter mask
glacial quarry
man i wish movement in bf2042 was as fucked as bf4
limpid pond
Or the m50
glacial quarry
would be so much fun
solar obsidian
they first feared me when i put on the mask
arctic grove
True
limpid pond
It's more of a respirator
solar obsidian
its leftovers from metro 2033
limpid pond
Nah I love that. Been wanting one f9r paik for a while
glacial quarry
wish i can teleport and slide 20m in bf2042
arctic grove
Also we not gonna talk abt Casper actually having a spooky mask
sturdy socket
not brand new to 2042
like i said, something that shouldn't have been brought back
solar obsidian
we go sneaky beaky
arctic grove
Like srsly Casper got that Halloween type mask
limpid pond
Exactly
solar obsidian
i always picked the gign in 1.6
limpid pond
Skadaddle skadoodle I'm coming for your noodle
fervent rose
@sturdy socket well i massively disagree with you, the game is more fun with jump shots. And they have been in most bf games
solar obsidian
<@197603094736011264> well i massively disagree with you, the game is more fun w...
play cod
fervent rose
no ill play bf instead
arctic grove
Is it werid that I like the default skin for camilia more then her tier 100?
solar obsidian
cod is literally slower now
funny enough i play faster
arctic grove
Is it werid that I like the default skin for camilia more then her tier 100?
Hell I prob like her tier 1 skin
limpid pond
Mw2 does suck
fervent rose
the mechanics of 2042 are faster than mw2
naive magnet
Drop shotting is really where the stupidity lies
glacial quarry
bf2042 needs more broken movement to be a true battlefield game
limpid pond
Jump shott8ng irl is accurate
naive magnet
Like how are you supposed to aim while going prone
limpid pond
Running while shooting isn't
solar obsidian
you want fast paced shooters, play something that mimic quake or ut
eager spire
I don't mind jump shotting being accurate. because it takes effort to aim and move at the same time.
muted cradle
I’m at tier 56 of the battle pass. Hoping to get to tier 100 in these 6 days 😅
limpid pond
Better start grinding
eager spire
you want fast paced shooters, play something that mimic quake or ut
People who are typically playing BF are not going to touch arena shooters.
hexed mango
fervent rose
BF has way more "fast paced" titles than slow paced
arctic grove
I’m at tier 56 of the battle pass. Hoping to get to tier 100 in these 6 days 😅
Gud luck bucko
muted cradle
I’m 56 in 2 days
limpid pond
Oh yeah I forgot xp farm