battlefield-2042

[solar obsidian]

it was the first game released on xbox 360, forged alliance where not, only a pc expansion it seems

[calm bison]

@radiant prism THEY ADDED A TASER STICK

[radiant prism]

WHAT

Where

[calm bison]

YOU CAN NOW EFFECTIVELY COMBINE RP

[radiant prism]

I need it

Give

now

[toxic wigeon]

In trailer lol

[radiant prism]

I have the baton

[iron thistle]

PICK UP THAT CAN

[glossy storm]

Damn, that Irish skin looks sick.

[radiant prism]

YES

Wait someone show me lol

I already have the baton

[glossy storm]

Now, put it in the trash can.

[radiant prism]

But is there an electric one

[toxic wigeon]

Yes

It’s electric

[radiant prism]

W H E R E

G IV E

[glossy storm]

City 17 in 2042, when???

[solar obsidian]

that skin looks like some mw2 skin uncanny valley

[radiant prism]

hourglass :)

OH SHIT

YES

hold on I didn't realize the BP trailer was out

[toxic wigeon]

Ye

[calm bison]

I’m really liking this green aesthetic

Kinda ironic that this season comes out just a little after MW2 S2 releases

But hey

[toxic wigeon]

Isn’t mw2 theme red

This season

[little zealot]

Will we ever have longer matches?

[toxic wigeon]

Idk haven’t even played it

[radiant prism]

Ok but how about that crawford skin???

[solar obsidian]

you dont say

[radiant prism]

Finally good skins for crawford lets go

[little zealot]

20 min matches not cutting it. With a 5 min load in time.

[toxic wigeon]

Crawford has had good skins lol

[solar obsidian]

who the fuck takes 5 min to load in

[little zealot]

Theres so much down time playing this game. Please consider shortening the post game and pre game sequences!!!!

Time it. End of round till u get into a new match and can start shooting

[toxic wigeon]

I just skip end of round lol

[little zealot]

Its redicliously long waiting. I just want to play more.

[toxic wigeon]

Go to menu then load in

[little zealot]

Even then pre round sequences are long

[radiant prism]

anyways

TASER BATON LELTS GO

[solar obsidian]

taser gang sign up

[toxic wigeon]

Yeah the pre round load thing for like 30 seconds is annoying

[radiant prism]

This is gonna be a good season for skins

Which makes me happy

DICE take my money :)

[toxic wigeon]

Idk which season is my fav so far

S3 my Keats tbh

Least

[radiant prism]

meh

Agree to disagree

There's been plenty of solid skins IMO

but yeah

[toxic wigeon]

I mean entire season

[radiant prism]

oh

[toxic wigeon]

Like skins and map

S3 had good skins

[radiant prism]

valid

Agree to disagree I guess? I love Spearhead

[toxic wigeon]

It’s meh

[radiant prism]

And also Zain is a top tier specialist

[toxic wigeon]

I got tired of it fast

Exposure my fav map lol

[radiant prism]

Also valid

Idk I'm used to looking at this game from a Breakthrough perspective

[calm bison]

I saw someone compare Flashpoint to Aerodrome

[toxic wigeon]

I usually play conquest but have been playing more breakthrough past few weeks

[calm bison]

Not a huge fan of breakthrough

I understand the market for it

[toxic wigeon]

It’s easier to complete missions with

Cause way longer

[radiant prism]

Also looks like a nice Paik skin here

[solar obsidian]

paik looks like a turist that got lost in star wars land

[arctic grove]

Yea that’s good

[radiant prism]

Also a cool Lis skin in the background there

[arctic grove]

Whose on the right?

[radiant prism]

Crawford

[arctic grove]

Is that RU camo

[radiant prism]

@arctic grove

[radiant prism]

no, look at the missiles on the back

[toxic wigeon]

Isn’t lis russian

Or sides with them

[radiant prism]

Polish

[toxic wigeon]

Ah

[radiant prism]

So probably not pro-russian lol

[toxic wigeon]

Lol

[solar obsidian]

its the vodka that does it

[toxic wigeon]

Boris is Russian tho right

[radiant prism]

Also her skins indicate more NATO allegiance

yes

[mental delta]

This season's skins look pretty dope, what's happening at Dice ?

[toxic wigeon]

Idk the character lore enough tbh

[arctic grove]

No Ik I’m saying is the outfit camo RU uniforms

[solar obsidian]

you want the honest truth

[radiant prism]

Its a cool digital camo I guess

[mental delta]

Yeah please ?

[arctic grove]

They reaaally took the cod beta skins in mw2 and went

I can do that but better

[ripe hedge]

my beloved

[solar obsidian]

they properly just thrown some of the better stuff supposed to hit the store in battlepass to get more players to log in

[toxic wigeon]

Well isn’t that how games usually do it lol

[shy forum]

I see a custom scope, I press buy

[toxic wigeon]

But idk

[mental delta]

Hey, is it true there will be some improvements for some vault weapons with season 4, like improving visual recoils on some of those guns ?

[solar obsidian]

yes when dying

[lucid goblet]

Liking the green accent on them, looks really nice imo

[cosmic storm]

Why green tho

[opaque niche]

I wish the running animation didn’t feel so heavy. I feel like my character is a fucking giant when running

[arctic grove]

Season green

[shell ermine]

So streamers can greenscreen in their own bullshit

[lucid goblet]

Brawler looks fun

[arctic grove]

All I see is explosions

And I like that

[low timber]

The skins in S4 looks good

[radiant prism]

Another cool Lis skin in the background on the left

[toxic wigeon]

New vehicle has team spawn right

Like mav

[dusky plume]

Hello

[radiant prism]

Right side I'm not sure who that is, but it looks like an existing Nordvik skin

[radiant prism]

Yes

Even when full!

[toxic wigeon]

Dang

[shell ermine]

I want to equip the AI class skins for all of my classes as like a total transmog

[ripe hedge]

objectively the best color

[arctic grove]

Brawler is def gonna have weaker HP tho

[toxic wigeon]

Yeah

And it has open slots

Cause player is outside

To shoot gun

[cosmic storm]

https://tenor.com/view/ace-attorney-phoenix-wright-objection-capcom-gif-20965907

[lucid goblet]

can spawn on it even when full,which is new in 2042 IIRC

[cosmic storm]

Ah I forgot again 👀

[radiant prism]

HANG THE FUCK ON

ALEX YOU STAY RIGHT HERE

[shell ermine]

That was a great feature in BFV

[radiant prism]

EXPLAIN

[ripe hedge]

?

[arctic grove]

So will the mav have the new spawns like the brawler?

[radiant prism]

IS THAT AN RPG-7

[shy forum]

yup

[arctic grove]

Oh nice

[shell ermine]

Can we get crouch running, squad management, and a server browser back from BFV too?

[arctic grove]

New vault weapon

Is a rocket launcher

[toxic wigeon]

Crouch running lol

Bfv movement was good and fluid but I hear it caused issues

And dudes would get stuck

[radiant prism]

(also another nice Lis skin there)

but

RPG-7

ALEX CONFIRM IT

DO IT

[shell ermine]

Only back prone caused issues iirc

[radiant prism]

Don't run from me Alex

its in the traile

r

:)

[toxic wigeon]

Lol

They say squad management is something they working on

[arctic grove]

Ok yea this season got the most weapons by far holy

[low timber]

So Alex, is it physically possible to load two shells inside the S22 at the same time or not?

[royal trail]

new battlepass trailer looking good

[mental delta]

New one you mean ?

[arctic grove]

Yea

[radiant prism]

Man alex got real quiet

Thats confirmation enough for me

[low timber]

He’s intimidated by my NVK-S22 question

[fervent rose]

that was more of a map thing i believe

[radiant prism]

More like the RPG-7 existing

[shy forum]

Just wait the 7 days ffs

[arctic grove]

😂

[mental delta]

Yeah and weapons look so good, everything in this season looks perfect : weapons, vehicles and map

[radiant prism]

yes but its in the trailer :)

I'm not actually trying to bully Alex

Im sorry Alex

[arctic grove]

If only we got more maps

But give credit where credit is due

[bitter mulch]

The battlepass looks awesome

[mental delta]

Yeah it's sad we don't get 2 maps each season, let's just hope it allows them to put more ressources on the next game development and thaat it will make it fun

[arctic grove]

Omg that is good

[radiant prism]

Looks like another nice Dozer skin there on the left!

[arctic grove]

Or they keep supporting 2042

[topaz field]

omfgggggggggg

[arctic grove]

Until it

[topaz field]

that Angel skin looks bad asss

[mental delta]

I would prefer a new game tbh

[topaz field]

intercept, ambush , execute

[topaz field]

man you lucky i cant post gifs in here

2042 is loads of fun it just needed more time

i've been playing since early acess

[quaint vector]

Damn, Season 4 looks dope

[topaz field]

bingo!

[ripe hedge]

https://tenor.com/view/peter-griffin-perhaps-family-guy-thinking-gif-13587558

[mental delta]

It's not a gif lol

[arctic grove]

NVK shot gun buff???

[solar obsidian]

@ripe hedgealex, that dlss 3

[topaz field]

gain?!

[ripe hedge]

whats a dlss

[solar obsidian]

peasant 😄

[topaz field]

omgg this new specialist trait is nuts!

[lucid goblet]

https://tenor.com/view/its-very-sneaky-arun-maini-mrwhosetheboss-sneaky-little-rascal-super-sneaky-gif-25480909

[topaz field]

sneaky aint the word

[toxic wigeon]

Glad they abandoned hale lol

[radiant prism]

@arctic grove Here's a better look at that camo btw

[bitter mulch]

The map looks like it Will be the mast map in the game

[toxic wigeon]

Whatever his name was

[muted cradle]

DLSS is a lifesaver. My game feels so damn smooth!!

[bitter mulch]

Best

[topaz field]

i would love for a 2042 short film atleast 30mins long

[cosmic storm]

The mastest of them all

[radiant prism]

don't ping EA staffffffff

[quaint vector]

[arctic grove]

Interesting I wonder what group this is

[muted cradle]

Who is EA

[topaz field]

i didnt know......

[limber orbit]

yea dont ping they are gonna make more paid dlc then

[errant scarab]

Make new battlefield like bf3/bf4 please

[topaz field]

sorry man my bad

[spiral folio]

MaKe aN EXAmpLe Of ThE PiNgER

[quaint vector]

Rule 9, but Alex was here so Its okey for him.

[spiral folio]

He must be sacrificed, so we may have good matchmaking

[topaz field]

yeah i messed up

[lilac dust]

Best Battlepass so far! 👌

[topaz field]

i have 3k boins free i'm def buying something 🙂

[quaint vector]

[topaz field]

give us season 6-8

[radiant prism]

I need to buy more boins at this rate

[spiral folio]

The lasers in s8 are really op so it can wait

[topaz field]

omfggggggggg that sundance skinnnnnnnnn

instant buyyy

[ripe hedge]

man i need this season so much

ive been waiting too long for that stupid AR

[radiant prism]

Its a cool gun for sure

I didn't know about it till now

[glossy lava]

Yoo this battle pass is looking CLEAAAN

The map too

[quaint vector]

We all need this Season.

[radiant prism]

Battlefield has a way of introducing cool-ass guns

[glossy lava]

I'm glad BF is sticking to more cool skins rather than anime garbage

[muted cradle]

What battle pass are they streaming now?

[topaz field]

the AC-42 skin is 👏

[radiant prism]

I've been waiting too long for the RPG-7 but thats neither here nor there

[arctic grove]

Cod is srsly charging money for the stupidest looking skins

[radiant prism]

That's what I've been saying

[arctic grove]

Meanwhile dice is charging less and they look better💀

[radiant prism]

MW22's skins are kinda bad lol

[arctic grove]

Plus the fact u can get shit separate

[radiant prism]

ew no

[spiral folio]

An antimaterial rifle that works would be nice

[spiral folio]

"Be careful its a prewarp planet"

[cosmic storm]

It's a focking fish

[topaz field]

lmfaoo

[ripe hedge]

But we have one 🥺👉NTW👈

[remote kiln]

real weapon btw

[topaz field]

yo is that shockstick from HF hardlines i see 👏

[remote kiln]

PHASR rifle

[solar obsidian]

you saying that like pretend the burning skins arent a thing

[spiral folio]

Ntw fires like 22 shorts and does 1 or 2 damage
And you get almost 30 total rounds after the class nerf

[radiant prism]

Yeah, but those are exceptions that prove the rule

The skins this season have been fantastic

And next season looks to be more of the same

[remote kiln]

you mean the TOR

[solar obsidian]

do you know whats in the store whole next season ?

[remote kiln]

I do

[radiant prism]

Everything I've seen so far looks great

Scroll up, I've been finding the skins not specifically promoted in the trailer

[solar obsidian]

meanwhile we have cowboy mckay 🙂

[sharp marten]

Bro the Irish skin in the battlecpass *chefs kiss *

[quaint vector]

[radiant prism]

I've yet to see a skin here that I don't like

[radiant prism]

Ok but the torso for that skin actually goes quite hard

Especially with his Tier 4 helmet

[sharp marten]

Bro who’s making these skins give that mf a raise right now

[quaint vector]

GreenBack > GreenBlack

[sharp marten]

[solar obsidian]

never said it was a bad skin, just when others call mw2 for shit even though both games had mostly down to earth skins

with a few outliners

[topaz field]

hmm I see why squad management would be good with the specialist system- you have one irish, one rao, and camila in your squad

[pastel loom]

can 2042 in-game currency
be earnt by doing challenges?

[quaint vector]

No, only from Battle Pass or if you buy it

[silk jasper]

i love every skin Nice

[radiant prism]

There's usually a solid amount in the battlepass yeah

[pastel loom]

that's bad
so just like cod
bfv rewards boins after a series of challenges

[spiral folio]

"Yes but actually no"

[silk jasper]

u think the new transport tank has a small interior where you view out of a window just like in the trailer and in previous bfs?

[spiral folio]

Like, you can earn some through battle pass. But barely

[quaint vector]

My guess is that BOINS will be for challenges in 2042 after end of the Support

[radiant prism]

Seems like it

[topaz field]

end of support season 8

lol

[quaint vector]

I wish

[topaz field]

im manifesting it 🙂

[solar obsidian]

meanwhile we have dozers two legendary skins from the store look like some 90s cartoon bad guy

[mental delta]

I got more than 2k coins thanks to year 1 BP, when season 5 comes out I'll just buy it with coins

[spiral folio]

Akira laser in next season plz

[quaint vector]

Same here. Will just save it for S5 Battle Pass

[pastel loom]

which in itself, costs game currency to unlock

[mental delta]

I think it's only 1k so you'll even have currencies left for some cosmetics

[quaint vector]

Yup. I will also buy some BOINS to have more

[spiral folio]

I have some freely "earned" coins but like 500ish maybe

[radiant prism]

I will gladly buy more

[spiral folio]

You earn more with the premium pass

[radiant prism]

my skin goblin ass needs all these skins

[toxic wigeon]

I have only bought coins for the battlepass lol

$10

Nothing else

That was s1 lol

[solar obsidian]

meanwhile the ranger still dont have any skins

[mental delta]

I don't buy boins, I only gget them because of my skills

[solar obsidian]

except for the ultimate edition

[radiant prism]

Ranger does need more skins

[toxic wigeon]

True

They had concept art of one

Idk why it never was made

Looked cool

[mental delta]

Just say it needs skins lol, it doesn't have any

[toxic wigeon]

It has one

I think

[radiant prism]

ye

[toxic wigeon]

For special edition

[radiant prism]

It does have one

one (1)

[toxic wigeon]

But I think it’s just a recolor

[radiant prism]

No it does remodel slightly

[toxic wigeon]

Ah

[mental delta]

Hahaha I don't believe you

[toxic wigeon]

Lol

[solar obsidian]

hot take, cod does have a way better system with its skins for the weapons though

[mental delta]

Send ranger skin now

[toxic wigeon]

https://preview.redd.it/8af9u3foshq71.jpg?auto=webp&s=c71feb4aa61e0d76c40d2fb4e61bb778ab24bdbc

[solar obsidian]

that you can use attachments on other weapons

[mental delta]

🤢 🤮

[solar obsidian]

only for like 100 euros at launch xD

[mental delta]

Sorry I puked

What's that shit

[limber orbit]

the weapon skin is so bad

[fervent rose]

all of it is cheesy

weird butcher recon man

[limber orbit]

he got his raincoat on

[mental delta]

One of the worst, the design is horrible as well as the color

[limber orbit]

the color just looks like the first tier skin you unlock lol

[quaint vector]

Ultimate Edition M5A3 and Ranger Skin looks great IMK

[topaz field]

anyone else seen like a juggernaut looking character in the trailer at :57? is than an heavy support AI???

[arctic grove]

The ranger is the only good thing imo

[solar obsidian]

110 euro my man

[fervent rose]

you should have got a skin for every specialist with the absurd price of ultimate

[mental delta]

What a deal right ?

[arctic grove]

I haven’t even watch the trailer yet💀

[limber orbit]

110 smackeroos for a raincoat and doodoo wep skin

[solar obsidian]

meanwhile cod is 100 euro for highest edition

[arctic grove]

I still feel like that 100 cod bundle ain’t worth it

[solar obsidian]

personally not bought into it, while the skins are fine i would not pay 30 euro on top for it

[arctic grove]

Weapon skins’ attachments should match the skin to begin with

[mental delta]

COD is a scam though, I tried to play it again yesterday after playing it a lot right after its release, felt bored in 30 seconds lmao

[arctic grove]

Like how does cod mobile do that but not the actual game💀

there is new update?

[fervent rose]

or look at Dozer shield

thats amateur hour not matching dozer shield to cosmetics

[arctic grove]

Nah I’m talking abt cod

But I understand wym

season 4 is out already?

[arctic grove]

Next Tuesday

[solar obsidian]

personally opinion, but remember there is free access to warzone and dmz

[spiral folio]

If you make the shield stand out more people will instinctively aim for thr shield

[arctic grove]

ok

[arctic grove]

I feel bad for ppl that wanted the mp

That is not going good….

[quaint vector]

Season 4 Trailers are out.

[arctic grove]

ik

what is gonna be new? (other than the specialist)

[toxic wigeon]

True but most assumed that what’s happening rn with cod would happen

[fervent rose]

4 guns for regular 2042 and a map

[toxic wigeon]

Skins

Gun

Map

Lol

[solar obsidian]

its going more than fine, its a loud minority calling the game dying,

[toxic wigeon]

Regular

[arctic grove]

I wonder what the mid season event is

[quaint vector]

Check those Trailers Bro.

[arctic grove]

thats ameteur

[fervent rose]

and 2 vault guns ig

[arctic grove]

what

[toxic wigeon]

The “event” doesn’t really feel like an event tbh

Just portal mode with missions

[arctic grove]

We had artic liquidators and the onslaught to nordvik

i’ve seen whole content updates with 7 guns and 4 maps

[fervent rose]

its 1 more gun than last few seasons at least

oh and theres a new LAV

[arctic grove]

LAV?

[fervent rose]

like the Mobile AA vehicle but this one is infantry focused

[toxic wigeon]

Yeah

It’s like the mav

Not as much protection tho

[fervent rose]

faster mav with less armor im sure

[toxic wigeon]

Yeah

[fervent rose]

less of a boat captain feel

[mental delta]

Yeah much more content and customizable weapons

[limber orbit]

isnt it just a small amtrac

[arctic grove]

i wonder what will be the new meta

[mental delta]

No it's the future

[arctic grove]

the ac9 looks like it will be the meta

[toxic wigeon]

Lol remember the railgun

[fervent rose]

nerf mp9 and k90, introduce new busted version

[mental delta]

Ho yeah I forgot about that in COD, meta guns

[toxic wigeon]

Damn people thought it would break the game

[mental delta]

Nobody plays it anymore thankfully

[toxic wigeon]

True

[arctic grove]

what game?

[arctic grove]

Eh true DMZ is good

[toxic wigeon]

2042

[arctic grove]

ah

[arctic grove]

Nerfing and buffing shit to have new metas Imo it’s kinda dumb

[toxic wigeon]

Railgun was added last season and people thought it would destroy the game balance

But really it’s just below average

[solar obsidian]

its how 99% of all games balance these days

[toxic wigeon]

And most other weapons out perform it

[arctic grove]

i just heard they signed a contract for cod on nintendo

[arctic grove]

make the guns equal with some unique differences

[solar obsidian]

but yeah dmz is mad fun,

[fervent rose]

they nerfed it, and now its less imbalanced @toxic wigeon

[toxic wigeon]

Yeah

[arctic grove]

not make your favorite gun go bye bye and make bad gun also go bye bye

[fervent rose]

release railgun was genuinely broken in some specific cases

[toxic wigeon]

True

[fervent rose]

anti vehicle especially

[toxic wigeon]

I remember watching the creator videos

Seemed way more op in those vids

[solar obsidian]

you asking for all guns to be equal but want some unique difference... pick one, there will always be a meta, even in complete mirror matches where both teams are playing with equal kits

then its some special tactic or playstyle thats dominant

[toxic wigeon]

Metas are necessary for games tbh

At least modern

Keeps people in

If everything is balanced why even add new things lol

[fervent rose]

in some cases you shouldnt if its a bad idea

just look at the problems the grapple gun introduced to bf formula

[pastel loom]

New things can be unique but balanced

[solar obsidian]

even in balanced games there will be metas,

look at a game like rocket league, basic mirror matches, and even there some playstyles are way more dominant in online ranked matches with randoms

because it hooked on how strong it was,

other playstyles have just as easy way to win, its just a certain way of playing that slowly got rooted into everybody that now shines

[toxic wigeon]

Metas ofc exist in everything lol

Ww1 shotguns lol

[solar obsidian]

precisely

battlefield will never have equal balance with everything

its not trying to

every new weapon are made strong by design so players will try them

[fervent rose]

they are definitely trying to make it so you can pick up any weapon and not feel like you made a bad decision

which is what i call balance

[mental delta]

Yeah but it's COD they don't give a fuck about performances in game, they just sell a lot

[fervent rose]

do they always hit the mark? nah

[solar obsidian]

depends on what mode,

casual is anything goes, same as warzone and dmz

but ranked play also have metas growing and even with all those restrictions there are some weapons thats just slightly better

[mental delta]

Is there a way to find the complete BP ?

[limpid pond]

All I know is cod is suffering from their current choice

[spiral folio]

Cod got way more run and gun at like mw1 and waw it seemed like. Thats about when i stopped caring

I didnt even look at its stupid future arc

[mental delta]

Ngl WZ doesn't interest me a lot, I like coop modes but people always leave right after the game began and it's too diificult

[limpid pond]

Cod was never meant to be realistic

[solar obsidian]

find mates to play with

[limpid pond]

Once games add realism the game no longer becomes fun

Look at insurgency sandstorm

That game massively flopped

[fervent rose]

realistic aesthetic = awesome. realistic gameplay = not so awesome

[limpid pond]

Look at enlisted

[spiral folio]

Cod2 was literally based on veterans war stories

[toxic wigeon]

Isn’t that still popular

[mental delta]

They chose to orientate their last game upon cosmetics and lot of gamemodes but it doesn't really play well

[thick shadow]

Insurgency flopped?

[spiral folio]

Just saiyan

[thick shadow]

I thought it was well received

[toxic wigeon]

Same

[solar obsidian]

it was a run and gun shooter with life regeneration

[toxic wigeon]

I still know people who play it

[solar obsidian]

whatever marketing they used never really digged into the gameplay

[mental delta]

I don't like when I have to talk to mic with people idk and my friends stopped playing MW2 for a while lol

[spiral folio]

Cod went from like true war stories to
"Hyrrrrrrrrrr! Power armor and avengers starships!"

[solar obsidian]

you had perfect accuracy with snipers while moving lol

[limpid pond]

Yeah mw2 only really appeals to the 40 yr old dads that kinda jjst sit in a window and shoot at you

[thick shadow]

I've been told that WaW was just gritty and brutal

[solar obsidian]

shame,

[thick shadow]

Never gotten the chance to play it

[limpid pond]

Mw2 did so comically bad they reversed their decision to have 2 years with it. Mw3 comes out at the end of this year

[fervent rose]

i definitely appreciated the early cods more but they were very cheesy and "hollywood"

[spiral folio]

Nah waw was just upgraphics and dogs

Nobody from cod2 went to play waw

[solar obsidian]

dogs

[thick shadow]

Up graphics?

[solar obsidian]

fucking ptsd

[mental delta]

Not to me but I could be wrong, it plays like shit on old gen but it's really good on next gen

[solar obsidian]

console issue

[spiral folio]

I played my brothers waw a bit to see if id like it. The dogs drove me off buying it

[thick shadow]

I've had a hard time on last gen, glad I got a next gen console

[solar obsidian]

its still a popular game on pc

[mental delta]

Yeah I played it crossplay off and even then people are fucking tryharders

[thick shadow]

You mean those jumping sweats lmao

[spiral folio]

The funniest part of like cod ww2 was like they betrayed that fanbase like 8 games ago they moved the f on. And the ads were all "cod is goin back to ww2! Get the squad back together guys!!"

[mental delta]

Lol me too, bought it on PS4 and it ran at less than 30 fps, waited two months to buy a PS5 and it ran magically at 60 fps with good graphics

[spiral folio]

I met more people from my old cod2 clan on world of tanks than waw

[thick shadow]

Aren't the gf Raphael pretty much the same on ps5

[limpid pond]

Tryhards??? Seems like we have two very different issues. The players I play against aren't good. They suck. Anyone that could be labeled "tryhard" I'm guessing is just trash to me my issue is the way how the game plays

[thick shadow]

What the hell

[mental delta]

Yeah lol, I played it for 30 seconds yesterday and all I saw were fuckers jumping to not get hit, what a game...

[thick shadow]

Gf Raphael ☠️☠️

[solar obsidian]

play ranked mate, its good fun 😄

[toxic wigeon]

I liked infinite warfare lol

[dapper river]

Please tell me they're changing XP boosts so you can bank them like in BF4/1, instead of them being activated the instant they unlock

[toxic wigeon]

Played with my dad a lot

[solar obsidian]

lol play cod

[limpid pond]

Already tried. I told you I would have 35 kills and my team is somehow 19 11 and 12

[mental delta]

What's gf raphael ?

[thick shadow]

Would you be surprised if it was meant to be graphics?

[limpid pond]

I used the mp7 in ranked and dropped a 50 bomb

[pastel loom]

cod has them on real time too

[quaint vector]

Those Skins...

[limpid pond]

I'm bot dropping 50 and losing thsn gonna play the game

[solar obsidian]

all this old gen, next gen stuff, why everything have to be this hard,

[toxic wigeon]

Doesn’t cod keep them going even when not playing

[mental delta]

Lol yes a lot dude, but yeah it was better on PS5

[solar obsidian]

you can activate them when you want

but yes they are ticking real time

most of them is 30-60min

[thick shadow]

Ikr, game has some sort of a learning curve imo so I'm taking my time with it

[mental delta]

A learning curve ?

[thick shadow]

Yeah of how you should play carefully and stuff, knowing how to check corners, clear buildings

[spiral folio]

Ballistic facemask that does nothing

[dapper river]

No way, they already revealed MWII Season 3?

[spiral folio]

Oh yes i forgot call of duty invented literally everything soldiers have ever worn

[thick shadow]

Wait so you mean real life armies?

[solar obsidian]

its the theme of the interphase

[spiral folio]

Those ballistic masks do exist. Except they actually do something

[thick shadow]

W O R D?

[solar obsidian]

it screams modern warfare

[copper ice]

where's the beanies

[arctic grove]

Yea cod mw19 had a lot of milsim outfits a lot….

[spiral folio]

Cod is imitating actual equipment

It doesnt give them sole license to imitate real equipment

[solar obsidian]

remember the times when ea wanted to avoid to look like cod, so they threw a blue tint in the whole game

[thick shadow]

Would be cool if we could change the equipment, specifically talking about vests, helmets, rolled up sleeves and stuff etc

[quaint vector]

That's why Its Skin (cosmetic only) that has no advantage.

[arctic grove]

Also cod got sued by GM the other time right?

For humvees I think

[solar obsidian]

im not talking about the skins themself, its the colors used for everything else

[spiral folio]

Its like making two ww2 games and cod has a stahlhelm

Then battlefield makes a ww2 game and some idiot goes
"LOL BF ADDED STAHLHELM TO COPY COD"

[solar obsidian]

interface

hud

pictures

[eager apex]

Hello guys, I want to ask if anyone has a code to create a room for tier 1 weapon farm?

[arctic grove]

Or the ppl complaining abt immersion bc women were in the game

[tame cobalt]

2042 keep trying to appeal to south african audience for some reason, while ignoring the fact that the south african playerbase cannot play breakthrough

[arctic grove]

Stg that was the dumbest reason to hate bfV

[thick shadow]

How so

[spiral folio]

Irrelevant to the point im making

[arctic grove]

Nvm

[tame cobalt]

the community is small so we can only play using server browser (portal) and breakthrough isn't there

[mental delta]

Ha yeah tbh I don't really do that lol, I just progress really slowly or stay with a team mate the whole game

[thick shadow]

I mean hardcore ww2 fans would get mad but even then it's stupid to hate it for that reason

[solar obsidian]

players want realism and immersion,

if you ask said players to turn of regen life and hud, they go "oh no"

[arctic grove]

I just want this new season tho

[spiral folio]

Two games can add the same weapon or piece of clothing and not be copying each other. Because that thing exists

[arctic grove]

I’m kinda tired of playing DMZ

[thick shadow]

Yikes, that must be annoying honestly

[thick shadow]

Same, either I kill multiple enemies or I die by my own grenade

[spiral folio]

Copying would be like say
BF adds a railgun

Then cod adds a railgun

Except they did that

[tame cobalt]

South africans: please let us play the other game mode

DICE: uhhhhh let's pretend the new map is set in south africa, that'll make them happy right?

[arctic grove]

Or like cod adds a m4 then Bf does it

[solar obsidian]

shame the official servers arent just listed in portal mode now huh

[thick shadow]

What about vanguard adding the f2000

Or whatever gun it was lmao

[arctic grove]

Then they had the audacity adding the em1 from AW

knowing I miss advance movement cods

[thick shadow]

☠️

Vanguard has done the weirdest crap man

[arctic grove]

I’d kill for a Cod AW remake

[eager apex]

hello guys

[solar obsidian]

meanwhile the m1911 "just abuse me to all your games"

[thick shadow]

Like the grim reaper about to come out and say to stop that shii

[arctic grove]

Also they had the whole 10 attachment system which was

Insane

[solar obsidian]

and if cod there are some young cod 1-2 fans sitting "hahaha cod did this first"

nope, not even close

[thick shadow]

ONG BRO

[tame cobalt]

Yeah, but online gaming is pain in general here, at least bf HAS local servers

[thick shadow]

10 attachment

[solar obsidian]

medal of honor

[dapper river]

Can't due to kevin spacy

[arctic grove]

Back in my day we only could put on 2-3 attachments

[thick shadow]

Literally guns in vanguard were so op cause of the 10 attachments you could put on

[tame cobalt]

more than 5 attachments is overkill

[dapper river]

back in MY day you could only pick 1, you had to choose between a noob tube or a red dot sight

[copper ice]

this is so bad i'm surprised 2042 sold at all

[arctic grove]

Based

[thick shadow]

Imagine you could keep putting on the same attachment and the stats would just keep rising

[spiral folio]

No thats a thing that exists

[thick shadow]

X10 suppressor

No ddmg anymore

[arctic grove]

The only reason why I like the advance cods was bc it was creative

I’m bored of all this modern shit

[spiral folio]

So that's the opppsite of the point im making

[arctic grove]

And ww1 and 2 were overused

[solar obsidian]

this is what happens when playerbase tries to be toxic about decreasing player numbers,

they remove the ability to count all players

[spiral folio]

If cod added a map where ships were being scrapped itd be kinda

[solar obsidian]

remember cod had player count for ALL playlist?

[thick shadow]

Ong man advanced warfare was something else and I liked it a lot

[arctic grove]

Even the wacky ones

[spiral folio]

Or if they added some character with a tv guided rocket launched by a character with a terrible accent

[solar obsidian]

even if there was zero playing it

0/0

[arctic grove]

Still I hope 2042 gets more support and the next Bf game doesn’t launch bad like the others

It’s like a werid curse in dice

[spiral folio]

Adding things that exist already isnt copying somebody. But like duplicating creative content would be

[solar obsidian]

what did battlefield invent?

honest question

[arctic grove]

Large scale casual matches Ig

[spiral folio]

They did kinda put vehicles and infantry together before anyone else

[solar obsidian]

i hardly played milsim in early 2000s

[toxic wigeon]

Was the first game with large scale battles lol

[spiral folio]

Team modes with multiple objectives

[arctic grove]

Oh right

[toxic wigeon]

Games at the time were arena shooters

[solar obsidian]

operation flashpoint though

2001

[fervent rose]

was vehicle explosive jumping in any other game

back when we had dope physics

[arctic grove]

If planetside 3 were a thing that game would be a cash cow imo

[solar obsidian]

halo even had vehicles and infantry in 2001

[dapper river]

The advanced movement cods were just a poor imitation of Titanfall, which everyone was banking on being the next industry-shattering smash hit. It wasn't, but it was still fun. Maybe not AW, which didn't feature wallrunning and had a midair dash, but definitely BOIII and Infinite Warfare. Why would I play diet Titanfall with stiff on-rails wallrunning and no momentum-based movement outplays when I can hop on Titanfall 2 and slidehop all over the place?

[fervent rose]

Halo yea but much smaller scale

[spiral folio]

Bf1942 was way before halo

[toxic wigeon]

BF was multiplayer

No it wasn’t

Was 2002

But bf was larger scale

[arctic grove]

True but still

[solar obsidian]

halo was launch game on the xbox in 2001

[toxic wigeon]

And huge player count

[solar obsidian]

16 players lan if i remember correctly

[spiral folio]

Halo is what 8v8
Bf1942 was more

[fervent rose]

yeah 16 players potentially with 4 xbox

[toxic wigeon]

1942 was 64

Or 32 can’t remember

[arctic grove]

What vehicle u think they’re gonna add in season 5

[toxic wigeon]

Think it’s 64

[spiral folio]

Bf1942 also let you set up uneven teams with bots

[toxic wigeon]

1942 also had more teamwork involved

With classes

[solar obsidian]

planetside came out in 2003

[spiral folio]

I did one with 8 allies vs max enemies. Came over the hill and just tons of enemies flooded in

Bf 42 was stoll before that

[toxic wigeon]

Yeah 2002

[spiral folio]

Bot battles were fun. 1942 was ass online

Spawn camping was awful

[solar obsidian]

what about delta force games? did they have vehicles ?

[spiral folio]

1942 you had fixed spawns. So a guy could aim at the spawn and just harvest people

And uncaps were a bf2 addition

[tame cobalt]

Battlefield

[spiral folio]

Bf2 added unlocks beginning the worst thing in gaming

[toxic wigeon]

Lol

[spiral folio]

Even worse was you couldnt use the unlocks in offline modes if you unlocked em

Cause reasons

[solar obsidian]

meanwhile cod gave you all unlocks in offline 🙂

[spiral folio]

Dunno
Cod2 didn't really do that

[fervent rose]

unfortunately gamers are so that if you gave them a brand new fully content filled game like BF3 and had no unlocking, they would spit at you and say its boring @spiral folio

[solar obsidian]

cod 4

[spiral folio]

And faction specific weapons

[toxic wigeon]

Bf2 was like 3 years before cod 4

[spiral folio]

Bf3 had the worlds worst leveling weapons curve

[umbral island]

That was way better imo

[spiral folio]

The lvl1 guns were ass

[solar obsidian]

all opinion but players screamed about unbalance for a decade

[fervent rose]

faction specific weapons are very debatable

[spiral folio]

Bf3 the starter sniper did like 30 damage and had insane bullet drop

Then the max level gun is like
"Jarvis calculate for drift and fire when ready"

Shot flies for 2 hours and beans the guy

[arctic grove]

What tier is the RM68 on?

[fervent rose]

faction weapons gave bf2 a lot of fun flavor, but they also couldnt get the balance right so it was annoying

its just easier to make it open to all

[spiral folio]

I liked that cod2 was before the trope
"If it fires faster, it does less damage"

But those days are over

So a Bren did as much damage as a rifle that fired the same bullet

Crazy idea

[chilly jacinth]

you dont want the k30 to be the best gun

[copper ice]

god i miss titanfall 3 so badly

[chilly jacinth]

trust me

or shotguns working like they do irl

[copper ice]

50 metre ohk

[spiral folio]

A 6.8mm rifle doing as much damage as a 6.8mm lmg. Insane theories

[chilly jacinth]

cry

[copper ice]

remember in bfv when they gave the 50 mag tommy gun the damage of 45 acp

[spiral folio]

Crazy thought of two identical bullets going the same speed doing the same damage

[copper ice]

there is good reason they stopped this

[spiral folio]

Cause they couldnt stand the crying

[fervent rose]

they were all pretty much the same damage

[copper ice]

they reverted it very quickly

but it was there for the first month or so

[spiral folio]

Just give the tommy more recoil?

[copper ice]

[spiral folio]

The things were almost uncontrollable

[copper ice]

it was awful awful

nah those things tore the place up

bfv had really good hipfire

[spiral folio]

Bf5 did ao

Change it

[copper ice]

you could clean house with those smgs

[fervent rose]

smgs were so satisfying in bfv

[copper ice]

oh you mean irl

[spiral folio]

Bf5 massively favored spraying around over aiming

Yea try to fire a full 50 on a real tommy.

[solar obsidian]

there are more to a bullets speed and damage than the size of the bullet

[copper ice]

yeah those were nuts LOL

[spiral folio]

With any meaningful accuracy

[fervent rose]

you get less accurate over time in bfv

[copper ice]

bfv had really nice gunplay until they screwed with the ttk

i miss bfv hipfire so bad

smgs felt soooo good

[fervent rose]

full mag dumps are less accurate than resetting it

bfv isn't completely dumbed down spraying gameplay

[spiral folio]

It is

[fervent rose]

well, its not

[copper ice]

not at all

semi-autos dominated and they were accuracy focused

[chilly jacinth]

bfv has the funny random recoil

[fervent rose]

semi autos were the one thing i'd say that was too easy

[spiral folio]

Well it is
Snipers got all the nerfs the sprayers wanted
Sprayers got almost no nerfs.

Its just about who bitches the most

And sprayers are some bitches

[fervent rose]

given how random recoil worked for full autos, semis were so easy to control

[copper ice]

bolt actions were very poo in bfv but they were fun despite that

i mained the krag

[spiral folio]

Yea between the massive scope glare and excentuated bullet drop. Sniping sucked in 5

[copper ice]

took forever for them to get any buffs and even then they only got a measly velocity increase after years

but the secondaries and melee were nice to make up for it

[spiral folio]

The ballistics are better in 2042, but then they added smoke trails

[fervent rose]

i liked using the enfield even when it was bad

bfv sniping felt rewarding

[copper ice]

i respect the most painful weapon in the game

[fervent rose]

very high killing potential

[copper ice]

throwback to them giving the enfield carbine to medic and it was literally the enfield but better

[fervent rose]

the fast cycling

and the large ammo

[copper ice]

[spiral folio]

On my way out of bf5 i used the AT rifles for meme reasons. With a 6x scope at 200m your shots were 50% off the scope

[copper ice]

the at rifles were a mistake from day 1

[spiral folio]

Bf5 was ass for sniping

They shoulda never added them yea

[copper ice]

the best part of bfv was the accuracy when strafing when you sniped

[solar obsidian]

https://callofduty.fandom.com/wiki/PPSh-41#Multiplayer_2 meanwhile this faster weapon, deals the same damage, has longer range

https://callofduty.fandom.com/wiki/Thompson_(weapon)#Multiplayer_2 than this

[fervent rose]

the medic carbine was perfectly balanced

[spiral folio]

Like if you're gonna f it up that bad. Just dont

See ntw

[sour meadow]

so in the new battlepass trailer, there's a gun skin called "fault line" and there's a Brawler skin called "earthsaker"

earthquakes when

[solar obsidian]

i enjoy rose tinted glasses when they forget stuff

[spiral folio]

The ntw is bad but its not bf5 AT bad

[sour meadow]

*shaker

[copper ice]

everything in bfv had it's place though, smgs had variety with different options, assault had the semis and that one assault rifle with 900rpm if you wanted to kill 1.5 guys at close range, recons had the ZH and the pistol carbines, support

[spiral folio]

Tankgewehr is the onliest time a large rifle was accurately portrayed cause it was limited like crazy

[copper ice]

2042 the smgs feel like ass

[spiral folio]

The m95 was very ok in bf2 and p4f

[copper ice]

the only smg that doesn't feel like ass is the PBX because it has the wrong stats and is actually not bad

[fervent rose]

dmrs and snipers feel less satisfying in 2042 than bfv

[copper ice]

2042 hipfire sucks so bad

[toxic wigeon]

Smgs are fine imo

[arctic grove]

Same

[toxic wigeon]

I don’t like lmgs

But never have

[copper ice]

yeah i mained the shit out of recon in bfv and they do not feel nearly as satisfying in 2042

[toxic wigeon]

In any game

[spiral folio]

I do fine with the DXR but i mostly use the rail now

[fervent rose]

2042 hipfire is too gun dependent / laser dependent

[copper ice]

the issue with the smgs in 2042 is that the m5a3 outdoes them in almost every single aspect

[patent prism]

i just roll with my DM7 with wrapped suppressor and subsonic ammo

[fervent rose]

smg should be fine without laser but they kinda suck

[spiral folio]

Best sniping was bf1 if it wasnt for sweetspot bs

[copper ice]

the only things the smgs have going for them is hipfire and you still need laser for that

[fervent rose]

exactly its weird

[copper ice]

with how big the maps in 2042 are they should have MAXO hipfire

but bfv had better hipfire lmao

[spiral folio]

Well yea... bf5 was pandering out loud to the run and gun people

[fervent rose]

only gun that feels really good to hipfire is pbx

[spiral folio]

Meanwhile snipers mortar launch their shots further than 100m

[fervent rose]

or old 12m

[pine roost]

I always love 2042's trailers

the mandatory 'sync actions with the music' never gets old

[solar obsidian]

its where the whole budget went mate

[copper ice]

maxo hipfire mp28 in bfv has insanely tight hipfire

2042 comparatively is poo

[fervent rose]

mp28 was a fun one

nothing in 2042 like that really

[pine roost]

although it looks to me like the main driver doesn't actually get the main gun in the IFV. which is a bit strange

doesn't make it any different to the mav then

[fervent rose]

LAV with no driver gun?

please no

[copper ice]

the pbx is only okay because pbx close combat is 20m 4btk instead of 10m

[grim pulsar]

i like the native new support for Logtech Wingman 3d Extreme

[patent prism]

I'm fairly excited for the Patria tbh, it looks like it could be rather unique to play

[solar obsidian]

god i miss old battlefield games having flight stick support

[copper ice]

bfv smgs had 1.2 degrees of spread for hipfire by default, 2042 has like 1.7

it's almost a 50% increase

[patent prism]

A little curious about if you're gonna be able to button in in the back

[grim pulsar]

now the LATV has really bad now... its awful

[pine roost]

The main gun doesn't turn with the camera, and given the driver seat view in the previous trailer i think it's safe to say there won't be one

[copper ice]

the only gun with good hipfire is the g57 lol

[pine roost]

the fun of an IFV is being able to use that gun, that just kind of strips away some of the fun

[grim pulsar]

i think they are TRYING to promote whats left of team play

[solar obsidian]

so pistols are balanced in this game ?

we can pick ANY pistol and do as well as g57?

[patent prism]

no.

[copper ice]

no LMAO

[fervent rose]

i actually don't mind them having a "driver cant do it all" mentality but they need to go all in on that

[copper ice]

the least balanced weapon section in the whole game is the pistols

the g57 shits on all of them

[solar obsidian]

thats also why im asking since i was told weapons in here i pretty balanced and you wont pick up a weapon that was bad compared to the rest

[patent prism]

I've actually been experimenting a fair bit with pistols recently and have found the NVK P-125 to be almost better than the G57 tbh
Addendum: I do not use the drum magazine on the G57

[willow sky]

funny enough ive relied more on the mp28 than any other gun

[solar obsidian]

sadly we dont have deagle

[pine roost]

While I understand why they are doing it, it just makes them boring to play as. Transports are boring as is but someone else having all the fun while you just drive will mostly lead to instances where one or the other is simply clueless and nothing gets done

[fervent rose]

you can make other sidearms work, but g57 hipfire drum laser is easy mode

[solar obsidian]

so cod gonna do it for me

[fervent rose]

they should just remove the drum

[copper ice]

not at all, the g57 right now has a significantly larger mag, better hipfire, better burst fire etc than every other pistol

the p125 has good damage values but the burst fire has a cycling issue that delays your rof

[fervent rose]

you can wipe a whole squad easily with the g57 without reloading

gun isnt really balanced

[willow sky]

i mean, is the easiest fix just toning down the damage?

[copper ice]

i do this frequently the g57 is better than the smgs for real

[solar obsidian]

i was doing that before it got buffed 😄

[grim pulsar]

g57 with adrum.... is a party crasher

[fervent rose]

Yeah the drum g57 was always an issue in the pistol balance

[willow sky]

its funny how it shows the mp28 does "more damage" than the g57 too

[copper ice]

it's got a drastically larger mag and higher rof than the other pistols with burst fire meaning you don't have to break your finger clicking

[solar obsidian]

honestly, deagle in mw2 is just bae,

[fervent rose]

it is better for accurate headshotting at range, the mp28 is like a pocket vcar

[solar obsidian]

compared to the revolver in this game

[patent prism]

The MP28 (BF2042) is actually fairly decent, though it has a very significant recoil which I always am not prepared for.

[willow sky]

yeah thats why i use it as a secondary for my smgs, its a good gun at ranged fights

and really accurate

[solar obsidian]

was my main before i learned g57 had burst

[fervent rose]

mp28's 2 tap headshot range is really strong

not a bad gun

[patent prism]

It has a pretty good hip-fire for CQC too in my experience.

[copper ice]

mp28 has good damage at range to be entirely fair to it, but it suffers from weird visual recoil

[willow sky]

this

[solar obsidian]

deagle when

[patent prism]

Hopefully never.

[copper ice]

doesn't it have the same head multiplier as the other pistols and smgs?

[spiral folio]

I do a lot better with the p125

[solar obsidian]

better use two in cod to compensate for that

[patent prism]

I have a acquaintance who recently got 2042 and he favors the P125 over the G57

[fervent rose]

pretty sure all smgs have a lower one than pistols, which should all be 2x now

[copper ice]

wtf

[fervent rose]

they stealth added pistol headshot 2x

[copper ice]

why the fuck

[fervent rose]

during spearhead patch i think

thats why the glock is going on rampages

[copper ice]

jesus no wonder i get onebursts with the g57 so often

[broken horizon]

[acoustic seal]

ARE NOT WEAPONS WHICH SHOULD REWARD ACCURACY VERSUS OTHER WEAPON TYPES

[copper ice]

so the smgs get 1.25 but the pistols get 2x

[solar obsidian]

thats not the logo

[copper ice]

yeah yeah yeah ok dice yeah that makes sense

[solar obsidian]

🐺 this is

[patent prism]

wat

[broken horizon]

🐺

[fervent rose]

exactly its a funny one

[spiral folio]

I had some jerk a couple days ago cross like the whole map to ambush me. He comes out right in front of me. I have enough time to draw the p125 and hose him

[copper ice]

that boosts my opinion of the mp28

[acoustic seal]

it's the rationale/cope given in the patch notes for why the SMG headshot multiplier was nerfed to 1.25

[fervent rose]

its not easy to get the quick 2 taps with the visual recoil tho

[solar obsidian]

how are you feeling with vcar?

[fervent rose]

but its a good sidearm for tapping

[copper ice]

it has horrible bounce yeah

[patent prism]

ah

[copper ice]

it's got the best hipfire in the game though

guess you can just click on heads

[patent prism]

the MP28?

[copper ice]

yeah

tightest by default and gets laser

the pf51 is fat garbage though

[patent prism]

Yeah, absolutely agree. I have like 2 kills with ADS with the MP28 and the remaining (albeit like 16) with hipfire

[solar obsidian]

guys?`

[fervent rose]

release pf51 give it back to me

[copper ice]

vcar? vcar is.... worse than bsv for all practical situations imo

[solar obsidian]

so its not just a weapon you pick up and do well with ?

[fervent rose]

pocket p90 was fat

[spiral folio]

It's weird to make the p50 both automatic and low damage

The whole point is the p50 is like massive capacity home defense

[copper ice]

i mean...... you can kinda do well with anything, but as far as stats go it's like literally just a worse bsv

if you take shortbarrel on vcar it's technically got a better kill speed under 30m or something but you have to click at 520rpm

[fervent rose]

dm7 and vcar struggle to have a place in 2042 for me at least when the bsvm exists

[copper ice]

and bsv is automatic with built in suppressor and subsonic ammo

[pine roost]

it's purpose is to use the mag as a brick to build a house with

[solar obsidian]

im gonna use the rapidfire controller then

[copper ice]

the dm7 is just a worse svk and the vcar is just a worse bsv

[frail sparrow]

just finger faster

[patent prism]

I really like the DM7. A lot.

[copper ice]

i want to like the dm7 but it gets shafted with poor rof and mag size increases

[frail sparrow]

dm7 feels like the zh from bfv to me. i dont like the zh

[patent prism]

ROF could be a little quicklier, agreed, but I think mag sizes are perfect as is for the DM7.

[copper ice]

SVK is the ZH on crack

[patent prism]

I recall reading, I think it was Reddit post, suggesting to give the DM7 full-auto. Around the same time the BSV-M came out.

[spiral folio]

Same mag as the p90. 5.7 is a 9mm substitute for flatter trajectory at close range and loses penetration at longer ranges

[copper ice]

zh in bfv had 100m 2hk range with 5 + 1 mag size and 150rpm
svk has 100m 2hk range with 15 + 1 mag size and 260rpm with added underbarrel launchers

[solar obsidian]

lg coming with a oled 1440p 240hz

[copper ice]

and the zh in bfv still was considered one of the best weapons in the game

[solar obsidian]

watch it be overpriced

[copper ice]

i just see no reason to use the dm7 when the svk exists

[solar obsidian]

skins

[frail sparrow]

bfv didnt have as large maps as bf2042 had though. hence the strongness of ze zh

[copper ice]

that makes svk even stronger comparatively

3hk at basically any range

same thing with the bsv, 4hk at any range

[patent prism]

Tbh I think the appeal of the DM7 over the SVK for me is that it's a touch more flexible, and it gets subsonic ammo.

[copper ice]

all the other weapons fall down to like 15 damage

dm7 gets subsonic but subsonic is a meme

and bsv gets better subsonic

[fervent rose]

bfv had tons of maps where you could rat it up with a 6x zh

[pine roost]

That’s called the emr. The modern garand one

[patent prism]

I pretty much only use weapons with subsonic because I'm into ambushes and flanks so I don't want tracers giving me away. BSV-M has better subsonic, yes, but I just don't like the feel of the BSV-M for midrange action.

[patent prism]

Wait, the M39 in 2042 has full-auto?

[copper ice]

you doing some wide ass flanks

i'm glad someone found a use for the dm7 though

[patent prism]

Yes. I love the visible confusion when enemies can't fucking locate me.

It's fantastic.

I've started trying out the close combat ammo as well though for the DM7. Usually I only run with subsonics and high-power but I've found the close combat ammo to be rather good in the space between close-medium range.

[copper ice]

i wish close combat ammo was better

on most weapons it's bunk

[drowsy rose]

That new LAV is literally noob bait

[spiral folio]

Steel core rounds for the p125

[copper ice]

it's not... awful on dm7, but it reduces your 3hk range from 100m to 40m

[fervent rose]

they had to nerf m5 cc

[drowsy rose]

The two exposed troop positions are get in and die spots lol

[copper ice]

PBX cc is next

[copper ice]

you can hide in them apparently

like molehills

and you can repair it while you're in there

[fervent rose]

nah pbx cant change 1 ammo type and become a 150m beamatron that has good damage and velocity

[drowsy rose]

Just not a good design you're liable to just get smerched by some goober

[copper ice]

hope you dont like actually killing vehicles

[copper ice]

no, but it can change one ammo type and go from 10m 4btk with decent rof to 20m 4btk with high rof and best hipfire in game on an automatic

[fervent rose]

m5 was probably too op with short barrel cc + the plus system flexibility

[copper ice]

it ain't m5 but it's still a mistake lel

[fervent rose]

no need for other guns

[copper ice]

god the m5 still cleans house

it's better than all the smgs

[kindred flint]

PTSD flashbacks to the garand thumb video the other day of a modernized garand that was built for post Malone

[copper ice]

and it gets UBGL on top of that

[drowsy rose]

Were it not for Magazine sizes sometimes I think a lot of weapons would be pretty good\

As much I hate the VSS IRL

cause it's a fucking awful gun

[fervent rose]

pp29 still mops up

[copper ice]

pp29 got no laser

[drowsy rose]

If you pop it with the CQC mag,short barrel, and a foregrip

It eats dudes

[fervent rose]

you dont really need a laser for pp29 and you dont need to be in laser range either for that gun

[kindred flint]

You don't like your suppressed barrels irl just being a thin strip of metal bent 3 times?

[fervent rose]

its the one smg you can beam with

[drowsy rose]

Mp9 > PP

[fervent rose]

nah not anymore

[drowsy rose]

Suppressor and subsonic rounds

[fervent rose]

6 months ago ye

[drowsy rose]

I PEW you

you will not hear it

[copper ice]

with hipfire? yer having a laugh

[fervent rose]

no i mean its the one ADS smg now

and the hipfire is fine enough for when you get too close

[copper ice]

i mean yeah it's got that going for it, but why not run AK-24 instead

[drowsy rose]

I got a new CQC AR they can add

It's called the QBZ-191

It shoots bullets sides weapons

for maxium damage

[copper ice]

for ads purposes ak wins out along with having UBGL and masterkey for actual close range

[fervent rose]

you move slower and reload slower with AK

only real benefit to the AK is the headshot multiplier and noob tube

[copper ice]

if you run outta 50 bullets and the reload is gonna save your life you got your pocket bullet hose

[fervent rose]

idk i find that drum reload to be clunky compared to the pp

[copper ice]

the smg sprint to fire times aren't fast enough to make them appealing over the ARs and the headshot multiplier is killer

[fervent rose]

smg also have better strafe speeds

its small but its there

[copper ice]

pp does reload very nice and quick which is nice

but missing out on UBGL is also bad

those things are nuts right now

unless everyone is irish

[dapper river]

Goddamn fucking 40mm HE is the bane of my existence

Everywhere I go it's noob tubes

[fervent rose]

zain can run 40m he, airburst, and new sticky launcher soon