battlefield-2042

[limpid pond]

Yeah intresting

[fervent rose]

it also gave wild defender advantage in some sectors

[calm bison]

Puma was the best

So was the Sherman

[fervent rose]

sector 2 breakthrough defense of iwo comes to mind. the japanese tank cannot be stopped

except by air I suppose

but the tank v tank balance is fucked

[calm bison]

I wouldn’t have minded it if DICE had added the Pershing to the European maps

Yeah it only saw like 1-2 fights but it still fought in the war

This game has a fucking Chi Ri and that shit never saw combat

[solar obsidian]

https://youtu.be/Kn0RABSsp4w

[calm bison]

Ok…?

I’m just watching a Panzer 3 with a flamethrower

And nothing interesting seems to be happening

[arctic grove]

oh this is funny with the EA app. Incompatible games dont have their own page

only the play button works

really guys

[solar obsidian]

you mean the store page ?

[arctic grove]

no, game page

[solar obsidian]

what game

[arctic grove]

nfs shift 2

[solar obsidian]

i see what you mean

[arctic grove]

EA moment

[arctic grove]

hm. the app also detects my steam games

cross-download?

[limpid pond]

Nah it's not a crossdowbload

[arctic grove]

then how does it know?

[limpid pond]

It's the government

Duh

I have a source

I have actual proof

[arctic grove]

DICE should really add pink skins and charms tbh. Get the gamer girls playing 2042

[limpid pond]

Anime gamer girls

[arctic grove]

Bet

Simps will swarm to the lobbies

[limpid pond]

Yeah more kills for me

Don't mind the audio. Still tryna figure out what's going on with my audio for clips

[solar obsidian]

https://youtu.be/q9F7imy6gU8?t=48

here is another little highlight

[unique shale]

what gun is it

[limpid pond]

K30

[unique shale]

thanks

[limpid pond]

Make sure you use a suppressor

It has a hit reg bug without it

[quaint vector]

That Tier 100 Blasco Skin...

[limpid pond]

It looks insane

[unique shale]

okay i will do thanks

[limpid pond]

Any idea what his ability is?

[solar obsidian]

looks straight out of mw2 hahaha

[solar obsidian]

10/10 mlg

[mossy badge]

You don't say that lad

[limpid pond]

This is the k30 setup
Fusion holo
Wrapped suppresor
Lwg grip
Standard issue drum mag

[unique shale]

thanks

[sharp marten]

Are you saying you don’t?

[limpid pond]

I'm saying. As if they aren't grouped into the crayon and glue eating

[quaint vector]

Her. Its Camila Blasco

[limpid pond]

Motion based gadgets

[solar obsidian]

cant wait for tank to have that and projectile eater behind spawns

[limpid pond]

Do anyone actually use the prox sensor anymore

Does*

Cool skin but I don't thim imma play her

[jovial jay]

sigh M5 recoilless it is once again

Javelin we had a good run, short one tho

[solar obsidian]

thats a lis buff

yaay

[jovial jay]

Just need to take blasco and put the jammer right next to the tank

[limpid pond]

They're adding a launcher???????????

Why

[limpid pond]

As if the launcher for the sfar aren't bad enough

[solar obsidian]

[limpid pond]

I'm gonna creme over the apc9 though

I'll have it t1 the day it drops

[arctic grove]

That sounds

Uh

Yea

[limpid pond]

Gonna use it like the pbx and get it to level 1000

[arctic grove]

What if it's dogshit

[limpid pond]

It won't be

And if it is I'm still gonna use it because I asked for it to be added

[arctic grove]

True, they're not capable of releasing weak weapons

[jovial jay]

Kolibri

[arctic grove]

They're always strong asf cuz "they don't have too much data to work with"

[jovial jay]

Thats a straight up meme tho

[solar obsidian]

im gonna park the condor as in the trailer so players can attempt that stupid bf moment

[limpid pond]

The apc9 is the best actual smg so if it's strong then it makes sense.

[solar obsidian]

im doing my part

[edgy oriole]

https://tenor.com/view/im-doing-my-part-serious-stare-gif-11979677

[arctic grove]

And I'll be the unsuspecting innocent jet flying by

[jovial jay]

Good luck not getting 5 m5 and 7 javelin locked on

[limpid pond]

The apc9 is one of the most versatile smgs made with a anti recoil system like the the kriss vector and a fire rate of 1080. It's a Swisz gun made by only the best Brugger and Thomet

[jovial jay]

We'll see if they implement it well

[gentle niche]

ive literally heard the lockon sound before even spawning in

[solar obsidian]

you play with 240hz because you think it gives an advantage,

i play with 120hz because i want my game to look nice

[arctic grove]

It would help if fire rate was 1440 or 2160

[limpid pond]

Alex 100% made it well

That's good

Funny

[arctic grove]

Shotty is gonna be the best weapon

[gentle niche]

cant wait to play 2042 irl in a few months when WW3 starts

[solar obsidian]

im gonna abuse the shit out of it

[limpid pond]

I figured. I'll t1 the zhotty the second day

[fervent rose]

sidearm shotty is gonna be op or useless lol

[limpid pond]

Gonna see me slide canceling around fr fr

[arctic grove]

Who tf gets more than 130 fps in 2042

[solar obsidian]

im gonna be so good with that thing, players wished they where sitting in warzone

[solar obsidian]

thats the point,

[jovial jay]

What is up with the rm88's muzzle tho

[fervent rose]

its a suppressor

[gentle niche]

boutta wingsuit out of the transport chopper

[jovial jay]

Built in?

[fervent rose]

unique looking

ye

[limpid pond]

Gonna jump ddom some c5 then back to wingsuiting I go

[arctic grove]

You think we'll be able to take the suppressor off

[gentle niche]

$10 the shotgun from the trailer ends up being stupidly op and everyone complains abt it

[fervent rose]

no its like the bsvm @arctic grove

[arctic grove]

Like in mw2 with honey badger

Even tho its built in

[limpid pond]

I wanna take the bet but I know how it is with new weapons

[gentle niche]

name one game where people dont complain about shotguns

[limpid pond]

That aren't portal gun

[gentle niche]

okay but its a shotgun

[limpid pond]

Tarkov

[solar obsidian]

the original 1887

[gentle niche]

the shotgun effect

[solar obsidian]

fuckling hell

[fervent rose]

the halo series have usually done shotguns right

[limpid pond]

Ain't no one using a shotgun in tarkov

[arctic grove]

Well the suppressor is a part of the bsvm, with that gun it just looks like a muzzle

[gentle niche]

tarkov players are too busy complaining abt everything else

[jovial jay]

Lmao

[limpid pond]

You asked ans I gave you the anawer

Answer

[gentle niche]

good answer

[limpid pond]

I have no others though

[gentle niche]

even fortnite had an op shotgun

[limpid pond]

Yeah the pump

Right?

[gentle niche]

shotguns in games will simply always be hated

[jovial jay]

Nobody use a shotgun in maps like hourglass

Only a psychopath

[solar obsidian]

there are 3 godlike shotguns in games

[limpid pond]

Cap when I was t1ing the mcs and saiga I did

[arctic grove]

"People who use shotguns are noobs who can't aim"

[limpid pond]

But that was also season 1 though

[gentle niche]

hourglass is basically snipers only

[arctic grove]

Or whatever they said in that bff episode

[limpid pond]

So old map layout on breakthrough

[gentle niche]

use a shotgun in COD and youll learn some new slurs

hourglass is basically survive the helis simulator

[arctic grove]

I was barely holding myself together playing shipment on mw2

[limpid pond]

I wouldnt say people who use shotguns can't aim. It more like they can't aim if they shoot more than 1 bullet and don't kill you in a millisecond

[gentle niche]

your only hope is that the tornado comes and sucks away all the helis

[jovial jay]

How many kids grew up knowing how to curse by playing COD

[solar obsidian]

doom super shotgun,
gears of war gnasher
bulletstorm, boneduster

[arctic grove]

I remember having a pog moment on hourglass

[solar obsidian]

there are no equal to these

[fervent rose]

the halo ce shotgun not in the list?

shame

[gentle niche]

AA12

[jovial jay]

Dang bulletstorm that game is awesome but it was forgotten

[solar obsidian]

halos shotgun might do a lot of damage, but it has terrible visual impact on the enemy

[gentle niche]

the AA12 is probably the most hated shotgun in history across all games it exists in

[solar obsidian]

i would rather pick spas 12 from soldier of fortune

[mental delta]

Really ? Send some

How can you be so sure of that ?

[edgy oriole]

remakes of the maps are goated and their improvements are pretty good

[fervent rose]

Okay hold on now

manifest rework is not "goated"

its the same map lmao

[mental delta]

This isn't related to my question

[limpid pond]

Breakaway remake imo is bad unless you play breakthrough

[edgy oriole]

that is literally related to your question

[limpid pond]

Breakaway remake on conquest is the worst

[gentle niche]

does the CAV have an AA gun

[solar obsidian]

dice be like, we want our games to be as optimised as possible,

where is that dlss 3

[fervent rose]

also kaleido rework didnt really fix that map much

[mental delta]

Same for Renewal and Kaleidoscope

[solar obsidian]

even nfs unbound has it

[fervent rose]

Renewal's a mix, the desert side plays better

[gentle niche]

i like kaleido

[limpid pond]

Not an aa gun

It has a missed launcher

Could be used as aaa

[gentle niche]

bruh

[mental delta]

Yup but the grass part is just awful af

[gentle niche]

new camper van

nice

[limpid pond]

It's pretty good

[fervent rose]

especially the big dumb hill. just like 100m with no cover in any direction

[mental delta]

Me too but we might be in a really really restraint minority

[gentle niche]

cant wait for release week when theres 0 tanks bc everyones camping in the back in their CAV

and no helis either bc theyll all get shot down by the CAVs

infantry only wooo

[fervent rose]

its gonna be a diff slot than tanks

[mental delta]

Yeah that part is so useless, that's why to me this map hasn't really been fixed, it's just like Kaleidoscope, they fixed half the map then abandoned and dropped the remake like that

[gentle niche]

it plays a lot like siege of shanghai

idk why ppl be hatin

i swear C is piss annoying to hold on renewal

[hoary kettle]

The box on exposure for the Easter egg is just not showing up. I've been looking at a cliff face for 30 mins lol, definitely not there. 🤷

[mental delta]

I think it would be better if the map was centered around buildings and not actually built in the middle of them, it would give a real feeling of an urban map

[gentle niche]

i've always liked the openness of battlefield maps tho. if i wanted urban id play MW2

[fervent rose]

good urban maps are about fighting in the streets with limited building access

[arctic grove]

Then again there is dawnbreaker as an example of what people are talking about

[limpid pond]

Mw2 is the exact opposite

[mental delta]

Me too but the best maps I've ever seen in Battlefield games were majorly urban

[arctic grove]

And MW2 urban maps are kinda

eh

[limpid pond]

It's how far away you cN sit in a building and snipe or shit on people with an ar

[fervent rose]

yep. Karkand, Devastation, Grand Bazaar

i need urban maps

[gentle niche]

nothing will ever come close to amiens

[fervent rose]

Amiens another fun one

[hybrid totem]

I also am tired of flying helis in wide open areas

[mental delta]

I know I'll maybe say something dumb but to me BF always nailed it with urban maps design, largely better than COD urban maps (which has some good ones too)

[hybrid totem]

more cover for aircraft pls

also thermals

[mental delta]

Karkand and Grand Bazar are one of the best maps ever

[gentle niche]

if aircraft can survive more than 10 seconds it will be called OP

get as many kills as you can in your allotted 10 seconds b4 lockon

[hybrid totem]

call it op all you want, give me more places to shrug off those lockons

[limpid pond]

Nah choppers are already good in this game if you're good at flying

[hybrid totem]

they can be better

[fervent rose]

the "transports" especially

[limpid pond]

They don't need to be

[hybrid totem]

plus infantry can use building cover

[arctic grove]

It’s fine, the only complaint I have for MW2 and urban maps is the amount of places you can be shot from, they’re a bit overwhelming to play in, as for CoD in general though I agree

[mental delta]

I played it a little bit and it was really good yeah, BFV Rotterdam was close and good

[gentle niche]

fr a condor is literally a gunship

[fervent rose]

I watched someone drop a 200 kill game yesterday with a random pilot he didnt know

hind is balanced

[limpid pond]

Can't get to the vuikd8ng if the minibird or condor is stopping you the whole game

There a reason chopper players average like 30 kills before they die

Yeah choppers just farm shit

[gentle niche]

the nose cannon on the condor is my fav thing ever

[mental delta]

Yeah I like Ground War but I have to admit the design sucks for this mode, people on the roofs everywhere and sides of the maps always too open

[limpid pond]

I can drop 100 kills as infantry but if there's a good vehicle player my kills cap around like 40 to 60

All depends on the map

[fervent rose]

Playing defense on the maps where there's two air transport on attack should be against the geneva convention

[gentle niche]

i was in a game yesterday where a condor was legit doing good dodging missiles and moving around but it couldnt be useful bc there were 2 dudes just sitting in the passenger spots

if youre a passenger in a transport you gotta jump out man tf are you doin

[limpid pond]

Sounds about right. People that just camp in mavs condor or hinds should have an auto boot timer

That's why I result to placing beacons

[fervent rose]

driver needs an "eject passengers" button

force paradrop the bitches

[gentle niche]

trolololol

definitely wouldnt be used to shoot people outside the map

[fervent rose]

surely not

bf players are gentlemen

[gentle niche]

indeed, no trolls here

[limpid pond]

Yeah totally no trolls

[quiet kite]

I just copped 2042. Any tips before i jump in?

[limpid pond]

I might do a xp farm server yo

[fervent rose]

The Solo/Coop breakthrough option is good for newcomers. You can get attachments there.

i def suggest learning flying in a solo match if you struggle

[quiet kite]

I tend to steer clear of jets in BF because i usually suck haha

I should probably hook up a controller for when i end up flying

[fervent rose]

also the first AR you get is one of the best so dont worry about being underpowered

M5A3 shreds

[quiet kite]

I know they said dev ended on HZ but you can still play it right?

[fervent rose]

no idea

you can click the button but idk if anyone else actually plays the mode

[gentle niche]

ppl play HZ?

[fervent rose]

there are dozens!

maybe

probably like 7 guys

[gentle niche]

7 is reaching

[fervent rose]

and they insist the mode is hot fire

[gentle niche]

i tried joining hz and got put in a 1 player match

[fervent rose]

i have never even tried it

[gentle niche]

well i mean i bought battlefield to play battlefield

aka conquest

[fervent rose]

ive watched a youtube video or two so i dont need to click that button, its a shit mode

pointless marketing mode

[gentle niche]

breakthrough isnt the same as it was in BF1/BFV

[fervent rose]

what do you mean

[gentle niche]

idk why but breakthrough fits way more with that era

historical era

there were attackers and defenders

it doesn't make sense to do breakthrough in a futuristic war

[fervent rose]

did you not play early BF with half of the maps being conquest assault

[gentle niche]

conquest is more realistic

which BF

[fervent rose]

like bf2

[gentle niche]

i played 3, 4, touched hardline, bf1, bfV, and now 2042

nah i never played 2

[fervent rose]

the playerbase loved those maps too

Karkand was dope

[solar obsidian]

realism with flags we capture

[quiet kite]

I miss Hardline

Hardline was a banger

[gentle niche]

idk, i just feel like it's illogical to have a big attack/defense when modern warfare isnt like that at all

it fit very well on the historic games

[fervent rose]

you didnt enjoy Rush in bc2?

I sure did

[gentle niche]

ive always hated rush tbh

just me

ik it's popular but not my cup of tea

[fervent rose]

modern warfare is also nothing like bf conquest, where its a merry go round of flag caps that arent defended

[gentle niche]

battlefield 1 operations/breakthrough was something else though back me up there

[gentle niche]

i mean it kinda is but on a massive massive scale

[fervent rose]

bf conquest plays nothing like real war, its just a bunch of zerging around randomly

[gentle niche]

modern warfare is def more open ended than "big team vs big team meet on frontline and charge until one team is gone"

in modern warfare you have more individual groups moving into certain areas

[quiet kite]

is Karkand in portal?

[gentle niche]

which is somewhat like conquest

not called battlefield realistic at all though

it aint a milsim

[fervent rose]

you also have frontlines that are held

[gentle niche]

not on the same scale as in the World Wars

[fervent rose]

like people say shit like "trench warfare is dead" but look at Ukraine

its alive and well

[gentle niche]

thats bc they lack modern tech lol

[fervent rose]

just not the same ww1 crazy stuff

Nah we would dig in wherever we needed to, too

[gentle niche]

the USA would not engage in trench warfare

not the modern US

itd be heavily air supported

WW3 will be fought primarily remotely

[fervent rose]

you're talking about some ideal situation

[gentle niche]

well the ideal situation is that we even have a war at all

the realistic situation is that both sides will go nuclear and we all die

[fervent rose]

I guarantee you that dirt still is useful in war for protecting people from artillery and bombs etc

[gentle niche]

im just saying a single drone can do what a dozen WW1 troops could do

would be kinda useless to have troops doing trench warfare when our tech is this advanced

[fervent rose]

from what I have seen they havent properly adapted to the drone stuff. they leave themselves wide open and attract attention in a lot of cases

like not even covering the trenches with stuff to obscure them

[tepid chasm]

season 3 and i still cant even play the gameee

ffs

cannot connect to servers

[copper ice]

i'd play conquest occasionally if it wasn't 128p

the servers flat out don't function properly

[tepid chasm]

the one time i try to play this shitty game and its down

[copper ice]

2042 experience

[solar obsidian]

its an issue on your side

[vagrant cypress]

yeah can't connect too

[vagrant cypress]

I can't connect live

some portal games work

[hybrid totem]

no exodus for you?

[limpid pond]

Nope that's not true

So you're wrong

[vagrant cypress]

I can Connect live, I just had a cannot connect error and I am waiting in a 2/128 lobby

[limpid pond]

Nope wrong

You're wrong

[vagrant cypress]

Ok?

[limpid pond]

Nah I'm trollin. You have crossplay off

Happened to me once I thought I got banned

Go into your settings and look for crossplay

[solar obsidian]

dread, did you ever get back to cod discord ?

[mental delta]

Why would have they banned you though ?

[vagrant cypress]

What, I put it on like last week

[limpid pond]

Nope. Banned and boom

[solar obsidian]

i should be able to return

[limpid pond]

I'm a hecker

[solar obsidian]

but you know, this is the better place to hang out

[vagrant cypress]

Thanks

[limpid pond]

No problem bud happened to me once by accident

[mental delta]

You use aimbot ?

[limpid pond]

Nope but some people think I do lmaooo

[next onyx]

They do be banning legitimate players but do nothing when illegitimate players have been reported dozens of times.

[limpid pond]

Like that iiiiiiiiiiiiiiii guy

Dude has been a legit aimbotter headshots only and he's been chillin since season 2

[mental delta]

I mean, you have no recoil on this clip so it's pretty understandable lol

[solar obsidian]

#chronus /s

[limpid pond]

Pbx. It's a cheat code the gun has no recoil

[limpid pond]

I think it's cronus

[mental delta]

Also got killed a dozen of times behind covers

[limpid pond]

Yeah that's a common thing in bf

[mental delta]

Yeah recoil is really low, even more on PC I guess

[copper ice]

don't like the map choices

[limpid pond]

Pc recoil is easier because of micro movements with your hand you don't realise you make

When you pull the mouse down you don't pull it straight down even though it feels like it

[mental delta]

Yup aiming on PC is 150% times easier tbh

[limpid pond]

Sadly I'm on controller

[pine roost]

Ah yes I remember this

[mental delta]

You play on consoles ?

[limpid pond]

Yes remember the dude accusing me of cheating

[limpid pond]

Yep

[pine roost]

Good times

[limpid pond]

6 finger claw

[mental delta]

PS5 ?

[limpid pond]

I play like a octopus

[limpid pond]

Series x

[copper ice]

they've tried to balance controller vs mouse by giving controller players less recoil to match mouse being easier to use

mouse is still gonna win out cuz it's mouse

[pine roost]

Most mouse users lack the smoothness to be able to pull down consistently, to them it’s always rather jumpy

[limpid pond]

Ehh it's a double edged sword.

[mental delta]

Ha yes I've just seen it on the video lol

[limpid pond]

Yeah I can play mnk I use to alot but alot of people flick to much so it looks junky

Janky

Gotta learn to glide and not jerk

[pine roost]

I’ve been doing so much smoothness training that any reactive scenario looks super delayed when I do it

[charred stag]

So I finished the Easter egg for the four maps,manifest was such a pain in the ass. But this makes me wonder,is wolf the announcer for the US?

[limpid pond]

Sounds about right. Wait until you play at 300+fps if you already don't

Recently I've encountered alot of people not paying attention

[pine roost]

In bf?

[limpid pond]

Yeah

Check it

[pine roost]

That’s normal

[limpid pond]

Ignore audio

It's messed up for some reason

But yeah they're like more oblivious than usual

[pine roost]

Tunnel vision

[fervent rose]

seems normal to me

[pine roost]

Fairly common when so much is going on at one time

[limpid pond]

Nah none of them.saw me

Like how

It's been like this in alot of other games too

[fervent rose]

idk you run into bozos quite regularly in this game

[limpid pond]

Been making me curious as to what type of person is playing bf2042 currently

[pine roost]

Look at the portal modes and you’ll find out

[limpid pond]

Ah yess the heli farmers for xp

I might do one tbh

Helps me learn how to fly

Never knew how to fly until this game

[pine roost]

What I want to know is whether they farm exp to say that they’ve finished the game and put it down, or to get to the part where the game opens up

For me progression in terms of new unlocks just gets me to when the game really starts

But if they grind exp then quit once they have everything then what’s the point

[fervent rose]

i bet some of them do actually just farm the battlepass stuff in those modes and then stop playing.

[limpid pond]

Yeah same here. If it's a double xp thing and I'm to tired to play I'll sit in one but I only do it to advance to a weapon on the BP I want

[fervent rose]

goofy but whatever

[pine roost]

I have no care at all for the battle pass, I hardly ever actively seek out challenges and I only play solo matches every week or so to work on piloting yet I’m tier 100

[limpid pond]

I only did it twice and that was for the blueprint last season

[pseudo lake]

Just reinstalled this game today and saw the intro saying only two superpowers left fighting and was wondering… why is it not USA vs China? I mean if game is suppose to be realistic lol

[pine roost]

Last time they put china in the game it didn’t go down too well

[fervent rose]

unfortunately china is a bigger video gaming market than russia

[pseudo lake]

Ah gotcha That’s what I was assuming

[limpid pond]

The US is actually having higher tension with China now

Over that ballon

Balloon

Same thing with Australia

[arctic grove]

Perfect time for DICE to release bf4 China maps and faction

[limpid pond]

Yes we need China now

[arctic grove]

anyone now how to fix micro stutterings, input lag on drifting like im on ice?

[solar obsidian]

get a better pc, or lower settings

[dapper river]

LITERALLY impossible!!! how can dice get away with releasing such a BROKEN and UNACHIEVABLE mission?????

[solar obsidian]

shield

[arctic grove]

min settings on a i7 8750h rtx2060

[dapper river]

shield sux!!! 😤

[fervent rose]

impossible challenge

!

[solar obsidian]

its easy with shield

[edgy oriole]

not going to lie to you i walked in a room and took down 2 died went back and tookdown the guy that killed me

it was mad easy

but an easier way is dozer

i used him for all melee challengers

[fervent rose]

the melee is actually responsive now

[limpid pond]

Don't executions count

[solar obsidian]

and its properly never been cleaned,

[limpid pond]

Pretty sure I did that one already

[arctic grove]

what?

[limpid pond]

Not to mention if you hold the melee button your knife stays out

[edgy oriole]

dozer shield is literally one hit. just charge my guy

[fervent rose]

does defib count as melee kills

[solar obsidian]

do you know how to troubleshoot for game performance issues?

[arctic grove]

its game specific, i run bfV and bf1 without any issues with good graphics

[solar obsidian]

and?

[copper ice]

2042 hates your comp

[arctic grove]

yeah its bf2042 specific, idk how to fix it

[solar obsidian]

uninstall game and forget about 2042 then, your pc not capable

[pseudo lake]

Anyone know how the new specialist infiltration decide works? It says it interferes with active spotting tech.. so does that mean she hides herself and teammates from proxy sensors and paik EMG scanner? I haven’t unlocked her yet to test

*device

[fervent rose]

they havent said exactly what it stops and doesnt

[arctic grove]

Man's in future and playing s4

[fervent rose]

^ also that

[copper ice]

it sounds like it's going to stop lock-ons and spots

[pseudo lake]

I hope it doesn’t stop proxy grenades from working. People will camp hardcore with her if they can be off radar constantly

[fervent rose]

but it might not block q spotting or casper drone

[copper ice]

i wouldn't bet on anything

[pine roost]

There are so many variations of spotting we just don’t know what’s going to be affected, besides her inability to be detected using the b a l l s

[fervent rose]

imagine if you had a bfv style overlay telling you when you were spotted

probably constant in this game

[pine roost]

Can’t have that, it’s a legacy feature

The best thing we have is the notification for a live silhouette track

[arctic grove]

Who's hotter Boris or Falck

[solar obsidian]

why

[pseudo lake]

Did they say if it’s just suppose to work for her or also teammates nearby? Seems too powerful if it hides her team also

[solar obsidian]

who is hotter amd or nvidia?

[pine roost]

Anyone within the area

[fervent rose]

its an aoe jammer so ye

[arctic grove]

Answer me

[copper ice]

it stopped the tank being locked onto in the trailer

[solar obsidian]

falk 100%

[arctic grove]

I want falck to sit on me ngl

[pseudo lake]

Ah gotcha guess I will have to unlock her to see how big or small the radius is

[copper ice]

oh boy another thing you can drop in 1 second to protect tanks

wahoo

[pine roost]

Only from locks though, every other form of damage goes through

What will be funny though is flying a heli next to one

[fervent rose]

The irish APS + jammer combo with tank is going to be so silly

[arctic grove]

Irish wall + trophy + blasco jammer

[arctic grove]

Beat me to it

[pine roost]

Kind of pointless though

[solar obsidian]

anti armor ammunition is gonna be meta lol

[arctic grove]

Mmm

No

[fervent rose]

Not enough people will switch to ntw

[copper ice]

not when it still sucks

[fervent rose]

People are way too lazy

[solar obsidian]

lmg lmg

LMGS LMGS

[copper ice]

anti armour on lmg is poo vs tanks

[arctic grove]

There's still other vehicles to fight vehicles

[fervent rose]

I have literally never been threatened by an LMG player in any of my tank rounds

[solar obsidian]

try 4 players shooting

[arctic grove]

Finally tanks will have a chance and not be easily solo'd

[mental delta]

I don't think I've ever dozered anyone in this game

[copper ice]

4 lmgs shooting a tank is 4 people to be blown up

[fervent rose]

yea thats free farm

[copper ice]

you're vulnerable the whole time you're firing

[fervent rose]

lmgs dont counter tanks

HE shell counters lmg players

[copper ice]

lmgs also have long reload times so swapping ammo types keeps you vulnerable for longer

[solar obsidian]

you know you can reload behind cover

[copper ice]

if you plink at a tank that cover isn't going to protect you forever

[fervent rose]

I genuinely cannot remember a single player even firing LMG AP ammo at me

only railgun full auto

[pine roost]

If it’s solid cover it will

[copper ice]

if someone starts pushing you from the side then your ap ammo is going to gimp you in an infantry fight

[pine roost]

It can’t bore a hole through a hillside

[solar obsidian]

this guy gets it

[mental delta]

Lol you can destroy tanks with knife, just try hard enough dudes

[arctic grove]

Guess what

[solar obsidian]

we gotten so many unbreakable covers with the reworked maps

[arctic grove]

We still have m5

[copper ice]

last time i used AP lmg against a tank it didn't even work

[solar obsidian]

wont work with projectile eater

[arctic grove]

Shoot it

[solar obsidian]

if its behind the tank ?

[copper ice]

irish aps next to a camping tank is one of the most irritating things in the world

[arctic grove]

Get behind the tank

[pine roost]

People seem to think this jammer is the end of the world, when since before 3.2 infantry have always been using dumbfire against them. And the jammers don’t stop those

[fervent rose]

its truly only "broken" in breakthrough

[arctic grove]

On an iceberg

[copper ice]

it takes 1 second to place 2 aps as irish, but trying to counter it takes drastically longer

[hybrid totem]

players don't wanna flank, they wanna keep shooting from the front and have it work

[copper ice]

i fucking hate the new reworked map because of this

[fervent rose]

the Irish APS is annoying and wack in conquest, but its actually broken in breakthrough

[hybrid totem]

It should probably overload after X number of projectiles destroyed

[copper ice]

i don't want to flank because 1. it's 200+ metres away and thats an insane waste of time
2. it's breakthrough and i literally can't because it's out of bounds

[solar obsidian]

you wanted really impactful gadgets, well now you got it

[hybrid totem]

you should get closer

[pine roost]

Use the smoke launcher to help

[fervent rose]

its more that the map boundaries are just wildly bad for defenders @solar obsidian

[copper ice]

see point 2

[arctic grove]

It should just straight up be destroyed after a certain amount of time deployed/projectiles countered

[pine roost]

Ah

Fair enough

[mental delta]

Which vehicle ?

[arctic grove]

Anyways I'm going to sleep

[fervent rose]

if they adjusted maps the Irish APS wouldnt be a problem. You can be far too close to the point while remaining out of bounds

[arctic grove]

Nighty night everyone

[arctic grove]

After 10 imo

[arctic grove]

Irish APS 🙂

[solar obsidian]

we had so much complaining about attacking being too hard

guess they changed that

[copper ice]

imo it shouldn't block engie rockets or it should have a cooldown after x projectiles destroyed or it should die after x projectiles or, like, literally anything other than the immortal god-defence it currently is

only time it goes down right now is when the server lags and it doesn't destroy a sundance grenade/zain airburst in time

[arctic grove]

10 is a bit low imo because of how many projectiles can be lobbed at ya especially in AOW but somewhere within 20 or so projectiles (most will quickly be consumed by frags typically), and to counter vehicles who sit near em, give ‘em about a minute perhaps before destroying themselves

[fervent rose]

It should go into a cooldown state when it intercepts a Javelin or Recoilless

thats all it needs

[pine roost]

That would make sense

[arctic grove]

Or Irish has to manually load it after all is gone

[copper ice]

yeah the biggest issue is it blocking rockets

[arctic grove]

That’ll be nice

[fervent rose]

lissiles it should block

they are too frequent

[copper ice]

it's got little right to block anti-vehicle tools

[mental delta]

This game should never have gotten Irish APS, it would have not been necessary if Dice was able to just balance explosives

[arctic grove]

Yep for sure

[copper ice]

currently it's better to play irish as a tanker instead of an engineer because irish APS will block more damage than you will heal as engie

which is insane

[fervent rose]

100% factual

irish is the best tanker even though engi's get free repair tool now

[copper ice]

this would very easily be solved by having rockets either penetrate APS or put it in cooldown

[arctic grove]

Didn’t Irish pilot a tank in a mission?

[copper ice]

it's a nightmare trying to take out APS defending a tank at long distances

if they're even visible at all

if there's a dip in the ground then they can be placed in locations that you literally cannot shoot

[fervent rose]

in some cases you literally have to casper hack the things

[arctic grove]

Just gotta snipe the APS down and go crazy

[fervent rose]

which is just lame

[mental delta]

Vehicle and specialist balancing in this game looks awful and that's why I hate those last, Dice can't balance specialists so they should have rather not implemented them

[radiant prism]

That sounds like smart terrain use to me

[fervent rose]

but its not "smart" because the map boundaries are so poorly designed

[copper ice]

smart terrain usage is one thing, having literally 0 counters is another thing

[fervent rose]

its just too easy

[arctic grove]

I saw the cliff tank thing mentioned btw I agree about that. BT on breakaway can get frustrating with the tanks on the ice shelf

[copper ice]

i cannot flank this tank because it's in oob

[fervent rose]

^

[copper ice]

this is fucking AWFUL

I have no idea what they were thinking with this rework

[fervent rose]

you shouldnt be able to rain down hell from out of bounds so easily

[arctic grove]

I think honestly Irish is prob the most unbalanced due to his APS

Everyone else imo is fine

[copper ice]

Tanks camping 300m out of bounds on top of an ice shelf with 2 aps making them completely invulnerable

[arctic grove]

Well I wish emp nades were back on Sundance

I miss em

[copper ice]

absolutely nightmare

[mental delta]

I agree, but to me Suncance is still cheated and Lis rocket launcher is unbalanced too

[pine roost]

Vehicle balance as a whole is the major thing I feel needs a complete rework. It’s so close to being something I’d really want to put more of my time into

[fervent rose]

@copper ice I was getting 10kpm games on 128 spearhead, while sitting in a protective bubble

Really balanced stuff

[arctic grove]

It’s reminiscent of BT 128 on the same map where the second sector below the ice shelf had the same problem with tanks shooting from out of bounds

And cause the elevation there wasn’t any available cover so you just got destroyed

[copper ice]

even if you do manage to hurt the tanks somehow, if they have a single crawford nearby then they can just take the damage

[arctic grove]

Instead of two missles it should be one

[copper ice]

you need multiple rockets to outdo 1 crawford repairing

[mental delta]

I totally agree, vehicle's gameplay feels terrible in this game and one of the reason are the vehicles themselves, normal tanks, attack helis and nightbirds are almost the only balanced vehicles to me

[hybrid totem]

literally every player carries the only counter you need. bullets

[mental delta]

Yeah and it makes too much damages, especially against ground vehicles

[fervent rose]

it doesnt work like that in Breakthrough man

the tanker uses a tiny bit of brainpower and then you cannot shoot the APS

[arctic grove]

But she’s gotta be still viable on a team

Otherwise what’s the point in having her

[pine roost]

The vehicles feel awful to use, the rock paper scissors balance just isn’t consistent enough and the counters keep getting buffed without making any fundemental changes to vehicles themselves

[copper ice]

aps has a ton of health for a gadget, irish has 2 of them out, and can replace them even if you destroy them without dying

worse case scenario you need to destroy 4 aps before shooting the tank

[arctic grove]

4? Holy hell lol

Then the tank activates APS last minute lol

[fervent rose]

ive had 6+ before with randoms, not even coordinating

lmao

[copper ice]

then the tank has it's OWN defence systems

[solar obsidian]

dont worry bois, game been out for 15 months soon, and basic balance is clearly an issue

[mental delta]

Air transport vehicles should have never gotten such an important fire power, 4x4 transport jeeps are too heaby and most of the attack vehicles except normal tanks and attack helis are just unbalanced

[solar obsidian]

it will never get fixed at this point

[copper ice]

and on top of all this, the tank can just kill you at any point when you're shooting at the APS

[arctic grove]

Too easy to kill them tho

[copper ice]

the transport helis? they're borderline indestructible

[arctic grove]

Tanks definitely needed APS in general but combined with Irish I see the issue

Which leads a lot of armored vehicles dying as soon as there spotted

[mental delta]

Idk but I feel like they only created her because everyone was complainingabout air vehicles before season 1 and rather than fixing air vehicles they just implemented Lis, most of people use her for ground vehicles though

[arctic grove]

I use her for both

[copper ice]

i use lis because the other launchers are ass

[pine roost]

Although based on the 3.2 changes and what Florian said on silk’s stream, their attention does seem to be shifting to vehicles now that maps are being redone, guns feels good and classes are back

So I have some hope for the future

[arctic grove]

Sounds like skill issue

No offense

[copper ice]

flares negate the AA launcher entirely

[arctic grove]

But the regular launcher is the highest vehicle killer in the game

It does the most dps

[solar obsidian]

m5 is godlike

[fervent rose]

The m5 recoilless paired with a gun that has AP grenades

[arctic grove]

The M5 one shots all the helis and iirc the jet. And it has decent damage vs all armor

[mental delta]

Exactly, nothing is consistent in this game about vehicles use, everytime they try to fix it, it just becomes more and more unusable

[hybrid totem]

...as they should

[arctic grove]

Then u add the tracker dart combo💀

Or soflam

Medium length reload in exchange for high velocity

[copper ice]

and if i'm going for a tank that's camping, the m5 is borderline useless as soon as it pulls back to heal up in 2 seconds

[arctic grove]

Self repair should function similar to how it does in V

[copper ice]

if the vehicle pushes then AP UBGL has higher vehicle DPS and c5 exists *

[fervent rose]

people dont even run the repair button anymore

[arctic grove]

Then there’s the javelin that literally locks behind walls if I recall

[fervent rose]

since you have to give it up for APS button

[pine roost]

not anymore

[arctic grove]

So it’s hell for both sides

[solar obsidian]

they fixed it

[arctic grove]

Oh ok

Nvm

[mental delta]

Yeah but I don't understand why in this game vehicles have to be that heavy with such fire power on every of them, they should just make vault vehicles a thing because UH-60 is more balanced than Condor, normal jeep is more balanced than 4x4 transport... and you got the idea lol

[arctic grove]

Yea

[copper ice]

yes, but not when they have borderline 40% uptime

[pine roost]

I wouldn't mind if they made it so the repair ability didn't regen health and only repaired components

[arctic grove]

Still it’s werid

Vehicles get killed too quick

[fervent rose]

Some dont

[arctic grove]

But infantry dies to em too quick if the pilot is good

[solar obsidian]

get out of here with that depth

bf2042 needs to be as casual friendly as possible

i miss crouch sprinting

[fervent rose]

A halfway decent Hind crew can deal way too much damage

[copper ice]

vehicles die at close range and have horrendous survivability out of c5 range in my experience

[arctic grove]

Bf5 has the best vehicle system imo

[fervent rose]

flying tanks

[pine roost]

depth is all I want

[copper ice]

why the fuck can you repair the heli as a passenger

what were they thinking

[fervent rose]

"battlefield"

[pine roost]

it's what makes games interesting

[fervent rose]

idk the repairing heli thing needs to go away

leave it in the past

[solar obsidian]

depth in game design like path of exile

[hybrid totem]

the same thing they've thought every time there's helis in battlefield

Two repairmen might be too much

[mental delta]

This thing has been said 10000 times in this chat but I still don't understand how vehicle's gameplay can be so unbalanced in this game

[copper ice]

"lets make this experience worse for everyone other than pilots"?

sounds about right

[hybrid totem]

that's one interpretation

[solar obsidian]

battlefield moment

[arctic grove]

Yea me either

[fervent rose]

helis have always been a mixed bag

[arctic grove]

Either way tho u do get games where it’s balanced ngl

They be fun

For both ends

[mental delta]

Dice new dev team moment, because in previous games it may have not been perfect sometimes, but most of the time it was pretty fine though

[pine roost]

in this game they are particularly unusual

[fervent rose]

like I like helis conceptually if they were done right and could be balanced. But at the same time bfv was a better game without them

[copper ice]

the transport helis can tank 3 rockets, 4 if they use their repair button, and flares give them borderline invulnerability for approximately 40% of their uptime

if they have someone repairing them on top of that they just don't die

bfv suffered from the jubba instead

[mental delta]

They truly fucked up with this game, on almost every aspect lmao, this game should have never released I think eventually

[copper ice]

i very much agree bfv was better with no helis but holy fuck it did not need the planes either

[arctic grove]

Wellllllllll they can still die to a wildcat and 2-3 lis’

Happend to me yesterday

Ironically

[fervent rose]

it became less awful when you could flieger them into dust

[arctic grove]

I was doing good….

[pine roost]

I absolutely love flying helis, but in this game they are poorly made

[fervent rose]

flieger is love

[copper ice]

for some reason wildcat 30mms has nutty damage against helis and poo damage against infantry

[solar obsidian]

dumbed down for kids to enjoy

[pine roost]

honestly yeah

which in turn messed up the balance everywhere else

[solar obsidian]

we are the fortnite of first person shooters

[mental delta]

I loved nightbird at launch, and they nerfed it so many times it was harrassment lol, now it's unplayable

[arctic grove]

I’m glad the game is still overrall fun tho

[copper ice]

it only took a week before jubba mains realised they could just fly above flieger range

[arctic grove]

They need to do something with lis and Irish tho

[copper ice]

dice never managed to balance that thing

[pine roost]

aside from flight assist i'd say it's in the best state it's in. Which isn't saying much since I still think they need some mechanical adjustments

[solar obsidian]

lis is fine, her rocket is insanely easy to hit now

if you have trouble with her, you need a proper gunner or you are simply not skilled enough

[arctic grove]

No I mean her dps output

[fervent rose]

Lis shouldnt 4 shot tanks

[copper ice]

lis is negated pretty heavily by having a gunner yeah

[arctic grove]

Change it to 1 rocket instead of 2

[solar obsidian]

even harder to hit targets behind stuff now that its hitbox have gotten this big

[pine roost]

make it a sraw

easy fix

[mental delta]

Well it's the easiest helicopter to maneuver but it has been tweaked too mcuh to me, missile's count has been reduced to 10 while they aren't that powerful

[pine roost]

guided missile that is more forgiving than the gustav, with no hitting behind solid cover malarky

[solar obsidian]

dps output is shit,

[arctic grove]

Ehhhhhhhh I concur

[solar obsidian]

shoot them down,

[arctic grove]

Hard for most ppl to do

[hybrid totem]

it's still the best anti-air air option

[pine roost]

Imo the rockets should have never existed. The miniguns are so much more consistent now, I just run agms

[solar obsidian]

they have the largets red icon in the game

[hybrid totem]

those chainguns need a range nerf

[solar obsidian]

if cant hit those consistently,

its a skill issue

[copper ice]

the planes all have guns to shoot down lissiles

the ground units have irish lol

[solar obsidian]

most vehicles have a gunner

[fervent rose]

you cant reliably shoot down top down lissiles as a tanker gunner

[hybrid totem]

most gunners are shit...

[pine roost]

or as a jet

[arctic grove]

That’s why I have a Gatling gun for tanks

[pine roost]

of which the missile now flies faster than

[copper ice]

you can just tank lissiles as a tank

[arctic grove]

Good against lis and infantry

[copper ice]

she's stuck on a cooldown that gimps her dps pretty hard

[sturdy socket]

i really hope season 4 actually comes with a massive javelin buff that includes the line of sight change reverted but I'm not crossing my fingers

soflam is deader than shit

[copper ice]

actually the new specialist is going to negate lock-ons

so it's effectively a soflam/dart/jav nerf

[sturdy socket]

hilarious

[copper ice]

we like to call this a dice moment

[arctic grove]

Eh true maybe I’m overthinking it

[sturdy socket]

better be a good fucking buff to javs then

[mental delta]

Depends on how fucked up the enemy stealth heli is, you can get destroyed pretty easily

[copper ice]

Lis is scary when there's like 8 Lis who can all spam missiles at once, but a single lis has such poor DPS that you can literally just outrepair her

[arctic grove]

Camilla is def gonna be my new main

[mental delta]

Yeah I agree, I just used to play them but back on BF4 we didn't have that shit I think

[fervent rose]

the problem with lis vs tanks is that it does too much reliable damage that can hit behind cover. if theres 4 of them of that 32 player team targeting you, you cannot move outside of your APS zone @copper ice

[arctic grove]

Having a jammer would be so helpful to help MAV’s or the new brawler push obj’s

[fervent rose]

or you have to move from zone to zone lmao

[arctic grove]

The thing about Lis is she still has a tv guided missile as a gadget that got a massive control and range buff, allowing her to do damage to vehicles from several hundred meters away with no real counter, it’s easy to sneak the missiles up on a target too

[solar obsidian]

get a proper gunner lol

[fervent rose]

zex they cannot shoot directly above

[copper ice]

i do agree this is an issue, especially with lis being able to see behind cover as well

[fervent rose]

good lis players dont get shot down vs tanks

[arctic grove]

But easy to shoot down and for air vehicles dodging

[copper ice]

but at the same time i would rather infantry be op than tanks lel

[solar obsidian]

plant aps

[sturdy socket]

Tanks are already bottom feeders

[solar obsidian]

like jesus

[arctic grove]

For air vehicles she’s not nearly as big as a problem unless we’re talking about stealth helicopters but the Lis missile is still easy to sneak up on armor

[sturdy socket]

save for the tor

[pine roost]

cough cough jets

[copper ice]

not at all

[inner ether]

I just heard the best voice line ever while playing the current portal mode, the US soldier yelled over the coms "We may be ugly and smell bad but we can fucking take a firebase!". I chuckled.

[solar obsidian]

operation firestorm

[inner ether]

bad Company 2 mode

[sturdy socket]

miss the sound design for the voice lines in 4

sounded real as fuck

[arctic grove]

Ima love the Sparta pit on the new map

[solar obsidian]

yep now they sound like your kinder garden teacher

[arctic grove]

Lis in general combined with the odds she’s chosen in a game not only for 64p but even with 128p makes armor genuinely so gimped in this game

[copper ice]

128p was a mistake from the beginning

[sturdy socket]

lis's tgm is a travesty

[arctic grove]

There’s no reason that one should honestly support even more armor debuffs if we’re in the realm of balanced game design

[sturdy socket]

the only solution is to make her rocket wire guided

[copper ice]

64p suffers from crawford and boris being shit so lis is picked 4x as much as they are

[arctic grove]

That’s why when ur in a tank u got to be unseen and always on the move

[sturdy socket]

that would solve the issue

[solar obsidian]

yeah make it 256 instead

[fervent rose]

Yeah, 25 tickrate servers too

Woo

[inner ether]

The Bad Company 2 stuff in portal controls sooooo much better. The guns are fantastic, the AT launcher reloads super fast, movement is so good.

[arctic grove]

Well it’s incredibly easy to be spotted to begin with, but with 600 meters you might as well snipe and never play objectives

[solar obsidian]

make the game so demanding only the top 10% of cpus are capable

[copper ice]

128p servers are so inconsistent it's not worth playing at all imo

[fervent rose]

And the ps5 runs at 30fps with drops

Lets do it!

256

[arctic grove]

?

[fervent rose]

fictional scenario

[arctic grove]

Ohhh

[fervent rose]

keep up friend

[arctic grove]

With 256

[fervent rose]

[pine roost]

I had a 'died even though I was deep into cover' moment the other day and it wasn't pretty

[copper ice]

i was very surprised at how much nicer it felt to use the RPG than the m5 lol

[arctic grove]

Nah I thought you meant it ran at 30fps on the ps5 I was like wtf

[fervent rose]

no but imagine how smooth it would be if 128 didnt exist

[solar obsidian]

honstly fine on consoles

[copper ice]

i had a '90% of my mag is dusting at point blank range moment' the first round i played 128p and never went back after that game

[solar obsidian]

and you dont even need the wildest cpus to keep 60fps

[fervent rose]

fine is fine. but it could be way better

[solar obsidian]

except for 128 rush and breakthrough

[silver meteor]

Only game mode I will play haha, 128 is so fun

[sturdy otter]

i can't even imagine playing at 60 fps

[arctic grove]

I can’t say much about the server or stability side of things with 128 since the game has always had good optimization for the ps5, I like 128 since it’s actually pretty large for gameplay but the balancing and performance issues brought along with it make me concerned about if it’s still gonna exist after this game in the franchise

[copper ice]

i do not consider the game failing to function on a basic level fun

[silver meteor]

What do you mean?

[copper ice]

there's no way it's in the next BF title

[sturdy otter]

144 fps + is a dream

[solar obsidian]

just need dlss 3 mate

[copper ice]

the servers literally cannot handle 128p correctly and suffer from consistent hitreg failure on top of just about every other issue you can think of

[sturdy otter]

i mean i have it

[pine roost]

seeing as TAA is forced anyways I wouldn't mind some good dlss

[arctic grove]

On one hand 128 makes chaotic battles + I mean it’s 2x the enemies to shoot at, but hell. Older games map design makes 64p seem just as chaotic. I just hope the map design in the next game, if they choose to go back down to 64p is good

[silver meteor]

Huh, wonder why I've never noticed. Played since launch and netplay isn't something I would class as an issue

[fervent rose]

and when you put 128 on top of one point the performance goes to shit for 90% of users

maybe more

[sturdy otter]

consoles can't keep up

[fervent rose]

most pc's cant keep up

[sturdy otter]

thats the problem i said it

[solar obsidian]

when cyberpunk maxed with dlss 3 quality runs better in 4k than this game

[arctic grove]

128 players has never been a problem for me if anything I get kills more

[copper ice]

maps designed around 128p are also poo because that's just too many players

[silver meteor]

I will say I've never had much issue with performance either. I've always gotten at least 60 on average and its only gotten better

[solar obsidian]

all my cpu issues where gone with dlss 3

[sturdy otter]

we just need a battlefield battle royale and the game is complete

[arctic grove]

Netcode was an issue earlier on in the games life and I heard recently one of the last two updates or so has brought back hitreg issues but that’s all I’m aware of. It may still be an issue for certain PC players and it would make sense

[silver meteor]

^^^ its also SO much more fun. The more players the better imo

[arctic grove]

Exactly

And it’s soooo chaotic

[silver meteor]

EXACTLY

I love not being able to tell wtf is going on lmaooo

[copper ice]

you can't effectively balance vehicles with 128p

[silver meteor]

ok and its battlefield you run and shoot things and have fun doing it 😌

[arctic grove]

Map design for 128 has definitely improved and dice is definitely able to do it effectively now. But balance is where it causes issues

[solar obsidian]

battlefield never been about balance

[sturdy otter]

o wait we had a battle royale in bf5

[silver meteor]

you want a good game go to CS or Val

😏

[arctic grove]

Either you add more vehicles in general or make the less vehicles stronger

[fervent rose]

good game val

[pine roost]

the maps are the biggest culprit. The launch maps alongside 128 players just had too many angles to check

[sturdy socket]

cs is dog ass

[arctic grove]

128 pl breakthrough need to come back

[solar obsidian]

want a balanced experience play rocket league

[arctic grove]

I miss it

[copper ice]

it had a hell of a lot more balance prior to bfv

[sturdy otter]

CS is good

[silver meteor]

I don't play it but people seem to like it!

[silver meteor]

THIS

It was so good in the event the other week.

[sturdy otter]

but you need to learn russian for CS

[solar obsidian]

understatement of the last two decades

[sturdy socket]

cs is for people who enjoy their guns not hitting where they aim and calling random spread a matter of skill

[silver meteor]

but that doesn't happen

[solar obsidian]

its not random though

[pine roost]

wha

[silver meteor]

LOL? RANDOM SPREAD

[copper ice]

spread is in almost all shooters now

[solar obsidian]

big guy talk shit out his ass without knowledge

[sturdy otter]

its called controlling your fire

[copper ice]

it's in bf ye weenie

[sturdy otter]

not random :S

[silver meteor]

It's also not random 💀

[pine roost]

it's one of the only games that actually HAS a consistent spray pattern

[fervent rose]

thats more of a real issue in Valorant than CS

[sturdy otter]

the guns behave realistically

thats why i like cs

[sturdy socket]

me when I stand still and have my cross hair directly over a guy's head but it doesn't actually hit

[solar obsidian]

skill issue

[sturdy socket]

literally garbage

[solar obsidian]

get glasses

[copper ice]

most guns are accurate on the first shot in cs

[silver meteor]

skill 👏 issue

[sturdy socket]

would rather play minesweeper

[solar obsidian]

how to say im shit

[sturdy socket]

plus, smurfs

[silver meteor]

Why are you bad enough at the game to get affected by smurfs 💀

[copper ice]

ranked games

[silver meteor]

^

[arctic grove]

Eh cs is cool but not my kinda game

[sturdy otter]

I only ever play comptetive

[silver meteor]

Never play casual unless its war games

[sturdy otter]

competitive

is the way

[solar obsidian]

he dont play ranked, he just the average twitter users posting shit all other have called out

[pine roost]

I like it, but i prefer things with a heavier focus on movement and pace

[arctic grove]

Insurgancy sandstorm would prob be better for me

[sturdy socket]

"why are you worried about trying to improve against people who come from global just to stomp on a group of randoms"

dumbass argument

[sturdy otter]

This is the way

[silver meteor]

ok but back to battlefield so when is stranded getting a sandstorm added to it

[sturdy socket]

anyway shit game

[arctic grove]

U don’t like the double tornados

[fervent rose]

stranded has triple tornados

[arctic grove]

WAIT THREE

[silver meteor]

I do. now add a sandstorm.

[fervent rose]

occasionally yes 3

[sturdy socket]

came to battlefield to have my guns hit where they aim and that's exactly what I got

[solar obsidian]

if playing against much higher skilled players are an issue, battlefield the worst you can play,

everybody is invited to the same match

[silver meteor]

I think big guy experienced his first cyberbullying experience on CSGO and is still salty about it 💀 but its fine

[sturdy socket]

ah yes, no actual counter to the argument

[solar obsidian]

naah he just got owned by some old ass pop with ball mice

[pine roost]

the game that has random spread and random recoil, gotcha

[sturdy socket]

of smurfing

[arctic grove]

If anything they need to add snowstorms in breakaway

[silver meteor]

I don't have one, I've never had an issue with smurfing in the game... I'm no where near great by any means but I have a couple hundred hours.

I only play comp though - maybe thats why?

[sturdy socket]

average cs players pretending their game is perfect

lmao

[arctic grove]

It ain’t perfect

[sturdy socket]

correct

but anyway this is a 2042 channel

[solar obsidian]

if we comparing 2042 to cs,

we dont, we just lay flat and accept cs is another league of it self

[arctic grove]

But u have skill issue

[silver meteor]

Haven't played since April 2022 since my account got hacked by a turkish guy haha, nowhere near perfect and not in my top 20 games all time either 😌

[arctic grove]

Apples and tomatoes

[sturdy socket]

good for you

but did I ask

[silver meteor]

You give american energy

💀

[solar obsidian]

rotten apples and prestine tomatoes

😄

[arctic grove]

As an American, what?

[pine roost]

chips and fish and fish and chips

[sturdy socket]

don't engage him

[solar obsidian]

fisk og fritter

[silver meteor]

You know like the way you can just tell someones American sometimes

Its indescribable

[solar obsidian]

american

[silver meteor]

THIS IS FACT.

[solar obsidian]

thats fucking vague

[silver meteor]

It is quite broad yes 😂

[arctic grove]

what’s wrong with us burger eaters though

[silver meteor]

https://tenor.com/view/macron-thick-walking-wide-macron-wide-macron-walking-gif-17545021

no embeds

😔

[arctic grove]

Macron

You French?

[silver meteor]

no

I typed in "wide"

[solar obsidian]

he is saying america, you could be some taco eating mexican

[silver meteor]

🕶️

[arctic grove]

Ah

[silver meteor]

still waiting for Dice to increase the amount of flying vehicles in 128p games please

I want 3 jets per team + 3 helis <3

[arctic grove]

That’s only conquest

Where’s 128 breakthrough

[solar obsidian]

real players play conquest

[silver meteor]

FACTS

[arctic grove]

I play both

How’s tdm btw?

[solar obsidian]

removed because players complained about there ancient pcs where unable to run it at 60fps

[silver meteor]

Sadly too boring for me atm since its 64 locked. I really enjoyed it during battle of nordvik when it was 128 though!

[silver meteor]

Actually pretty fun

[silver meteor]

💀 Wait, is that something people can tweak in portal? The amount of vehicles etc

[solar obsidian]

tdm have never been a good mode outside arena shooters,

all other games promote camping too hard

[arctic grove]

I think the thing about conquest in 2042 is although I like the gamemode in general, the travel time between objectives being longer in this game makes me just stick to Breakthrough for most of my play (unless it’s very casual)

Conquest has always included a bit of travel time tho depending on map and game so yknow

[arctic grove]

I usually stick to one area when I play conquest

Like A/B

Like Iwo Jima in BFV is pretty darn big

Or D/E

Yea in 2042 I typically go for sectors tbh

[fervent rose]

that one played so poorly in conq

[arctic grove]

Also idky I just played grand operations more then breakthrough and conquest combined

[solar obsidian]

give us raytraced reflections