#battlefield-2042
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"One lis player can completely invalidate a multi million attack helicopter
How is that balanced"

Can't wait for the first EV Technical đ
Honestly I've never hated the wildcat so much. Can't even have dogfights in jets or helis because of em
An anti air doing its purpose too well? Cat, that's wild!
But to honest, i blame having to progress ze planes for the right upgrades. But in order to get those upgrades, you need to fly, but ye can't due the aa. If we had like dumb fire rockets that you could launch at them and destroy them, it wouldn't be so bad. That's how you could deal with faraway aa in bfv.
Lis rocket with wolverine claws just flying through every helicopter
I feel like vehicles should have multiple roles from the get go, just like you can swap classes as infantry. And maybe by leveling it you can slowly unlock it and choose what upgrades you want more freeformly
I think bf1 kinda did that
They should have split the vehicles between "chassis" and weapons
it was fine before the range buff
im calling it
super a10 warhog coming s5
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AA tank 2.0 season 5? đ§
Ok 1/4 hp
The farts will hit you before you hear them
i mean
they have a perfect a10 in portal
just add futuristic stuff
and some customization
Orbital insertion A10 with an AI aimed laser
900 mb read 800 write wth lol
will head over and check it out.
They add the guns in AOW that were in BF3 and bad company 2, so why not add the BF4 vehicles and its loadout in AOW because it has more attachments than BF3
game engine issues?
someone said portal and normal game modes have diff. engines and porting it over is a shit show
they would have to make new models for the atachments even if they recycle the weapon models lol
too much work for a dead game
i mean , BFV still overtakes 2042's player numbers on the regular
unleast on PC it may be difrent on consols
Even the ntw is better than bf5s antitank rifles
oh really? i thought the dmg was piss poor like bf5 rifles
I remember runnign after tanks with the anti material sniper
The bf5 rifles had that comically slow velocity too
and getting shot down
heroes and generals AT rifles : we would like to introduce our selves
that bullet drop was insane
yes i know dead game lmao
I got a 500m kill with the AT rifle. I aimed like 50% off the scope
ultimate CHAD move was headshotting enemy with anti-material rifle in BF5
That was about when i quit playing bf5 and went back to bf1
it's not about that it's about accualy making the models for the atachments
and the first person animations for the grips etc
because they can recycle the scope animations
The only time a battlefield game has gotten a high caliber rifle right was bf1
Nope , the only game that got high caliber rifles right is red orchestra
lol
Is that a battlefield game
lol
Then
this is great banter
the bf2042 guns have different rail mounts so it would look jank if they just slap a 2042 attachment on portal guns
what about BF1's rifles were right
Only the tankgewehr
Does BF let you blow some ones head of with a AT rifle so there is an accual hole in there head the size of your forearm ? no ?
All I want is for the wildcat to struggle to take down jets. Just from a few air to ground missiles,can't even hit it because of the smoke and when it shoots me it either blows me up or gets me to under 20 HP even though I'm already halfway across the map
Sometimes I'm outside of the combat area and I'm still getting shot at
Railgun wildcat next patch
as if the wildcat isnt brain dead enough lol
If you quad mounted the railgun rifle you coukd have it almost continually fire
Quad mount 50cals when
2x quad mount and there ya go
As one fires the next 3 charge
i mean i guess dice could make a model for an adapter
so it still jank but good enough
lol
bf 2042 gun rails is wider than the portal guns so this could work
"The enemy is being reenforced with a fantastic scifi train"
Train on rails with railguns
BF2142 aircraft carrier when
honestly why did dice even change the rail design i dont see the us goverment moving away from the picatinny rail lol
its just works lol no reason to change
because near future setting i guess
Slot mounted is the new cool kid
Id show you but CENSORSHIP
yea i agree its just they need to make it compentitive to bf 2042 guns
attachment wise
Like the m5 rifle has MLOKs on the sides and bottom and a picatinny on top
ah
Mlok I think is easier and wont cut your hand up gripping it while firing
makes sense
i dont see why not, because they are still working on the next battlefiled game it, i think they just started working on it last month lol
it will tank 2 more years at the minimum for the next battlefiled game
Or spinoffs like bad company
That whole era of
"How many variants on modern can we do"
not much lol
"Ok ok modern combat but.. theyre jerks"
watch dice release battlefiled 2958 and it will be in space lol
"Cops and robbers?"
Bf2942 like deathstars and solar killer weapons
Things like behemoths, antitank rifles, horses
Battlefield vietnam !
they did that twice already
Yea it's a great setting
Awful
we need urban maps
the franchise has had way too many natural settings
I had bf vietnam in some omnibus pack and it was bad
It was in ine with bf1942 all 30 of its expansions, vietnam and bf2
Vietnam is a modern enoght settings that you can have all the kit you would want
The only thing i want out of any game
Is a rifle bigger than me that can kill vehicles easily
And only bf1 delivers
Yea it's great
there is no good guys
you have many combatants using various weapons
ranging from WW1 to preaty modern assault rifles
Or ww1-like
In the BF1 universe where ww1 went to like 1920
But also didnt include the K-wagen
Why are my javelins rockets and shit locked for Liz?
bf1 sequel is practically guaranteed but when, who knows
Germany had like 5 Kwagens almost complete by 1918
Lis has an Rpg already
Well the russian civil war did go that far
They can't hold 2
BFV is a sequel to bf1
I mean like how bf1 includes a lot kf very late to post war weapons from france and germany
Ie the big fat char 2c abomination
a modern Bf without futurstic stuff or cold war would go hard
bfv is a ww2 game, i'm talking about something very close to bf1 in timeline
if they do it right
What?
Which wasnt around for ww1
how big is the drop off nerf for tracer? i never used it so idk how big of a change it is
?
oh
it can be perfectly simetrical
like 5 years after bf1, the sequel
The closest the char 2c got to combat was im ww2 when germany used them for targets
the NVA could fight the US on equal footing
in many aspects
MIGs where compareble to F4s
the T55 was comareble to the M48
the US only gained significant advantage over the warsaw pact around the 80s
Well by the 60s composite armor tanks came into play thats when the m60 and challengers started being better than the soviet tanks
it's a battlefield game so artistic licence would be given
lol
well the allies compleatly out gunned the axis in every aspect IRL during WW2 so it's not simetrical in anyway
the NVA was a traditional army if we are talking about the vietnam war
Fighting style ? doctrine ? conventional vs unconventional warfare ? (i mean it is a discusion over something EA would never do lol)
EA aproving a BF1 style vietnam war game ? that's not happening
i know what you mean but it's not realy somthing that matters in the discusion tbh
it's a compleatly imaginary game
the vietnam war is still a bit controvertial
- dice can't paint one side as evil considering what both sides did
i mean war is controversial 
One side poisoned and bombed a lot of civilians as well as combatants and the other side...i donno, they're communists i guess
Don't ask south koreans what there grandpapy did to some random south vietnamese vilage
I don't have any south korean friends to ask
Hans from the ostfront would be proud !
lol
well im neather american or vietnamese , so im not opinionated on the vietnam war , i mean pepole make FPS games in every single setting
no one realy cares about victims of other wars
exept the current one
but that's neather here nor there
Pretty sure the battlefield developers already did make a Vietnam war game
Yes
two of them
in fact
BF vietnam as a stand alone spin off of BF1942
and a DLC for bad company 2
So wdym by this then?
They already kinda did
yea but both of them where multiplayer only
they had literly no story
just the war
as the back story
Mm they still had redeeming like stories for the Germans within BFV. They didnât hold them in a negative light the whole time
BFV does not realy explore WW2 enoght
i mean it's a "blockbuster" game not a history book
Yah but what would make them go more in depth with a Vietnam battlefield game with a campaign? Seems doable imo
I think they could toe the balance okay.
yea
Not that it matters what we think though lol
Im just saying that theyâve had sides that were held to negative connotations or were on the side of evil and still gave them a human side and a human face
yea
surgically installed
Love the name
Thanks
Bro I want them to get rid of automatic doors in 2042
I fucidoskskfkeksskkskw hate them so much
doors in 2042 are lame
and the device things
are just braindead
should have more depth
and use
the metal detectors are alright
Too many damn times a teammate runs ahead of me and the door closes again and I have to stand at the door for 3-5 seconds like some jackass
Is that implemented in this update or�
Thatâs what I end up doing. I just shiv the door until itâs broken so I donât have to deal with it later
Best use for the knife anyway
I might be tripping, but now that I think of it, where are all the other melee weapons in 2042?
Maybe I didnât explore enough of the menu but⊠only a knife though?
aren't all the BF2042 melee weapons identical in function
they just have difrent finisher animations
if im not mistaken
I hope not. If Iâm holding a baton or a sword Iâd hope it have a least some more reach than a knife
i still remember how one of the rewards for some subscription in BF2042 was literly the Axe from BF1/V
lol
Damn, theyâre all tier unlocks ):
Dice : makes BF game on a updated version of the engine how many features can we port over ?
game engine : N o
Maybe in 2042 but BFV had a further reach mechanic
Bigger weapons also did heavier damage
melee weapons had difrent stats
there was 3 weapons types
What I meant to say^^^
Further reach mechanic made it seem like they all reached out
in BF1 they had difrent stats individualy
Meant to say if you had a knife it had a reach of a knife and if you had a sword it had a reach of a sword
yea
but it goes beyond that because some melee weapons in both 1 and V has some use beyond melee combat
like braking baricades or barbed wire
etc
lol
Iâd imagine you couldnât break much besides barbed wire though right?
guys....
now that dice have some sort of 5d balancing with this game
the hand tools in BFV (Hachet , pickaxe , shovel , macheties etc) can brake barricades
when are they adding ohk sweetspot with shotguns ?
You knock that off
Yah but itâs not like I can break down sandbags with a hatchet though⊠can youâŠ?
or you know,
lol
instead of dedicating a fucking grenade slot to throwing knifes
but instead lets us throw our fucking melee weapon
If you say yes im hopping on bfv metro and im about to fuck up those sandbags on B point
nahh you got to boom the sandbags
you can't unsand them
):
BOOM sandbag
Boom sounds more interasting then Destroy with explosives
Turns out when Iâve been going to the beach I shouldnât have brought a pail and a shovel⊠shouldâve brought C4
and shorter to type lol
Thatâs how you REALLY fucking dig
gifs you can hear
So that's why humans invented dynamite
Planting a garden this year is going to be so damn easy now
Tf was I doing using a hoe and shovel
do it at new year and you might get away with it
Nah, the neighbors have a stockpile of fireworks they set off intermittently. Iâm in the clear
Theyâll just think itâs those fuckers again
But nope, itâs me, bombing that asparagus patch
Green thumb mfer
oh officer idk why would someone bring a whole oil drum filled with C4 to my back yard
âŠfertilizer (:
IRA moment
Nerf LMGs dice.. people running around like that shits is an MP5
players want more authenticity with the weapons dice,
can you google lethal range on shotguns ?
so when are vehicle limits getting halfed in exodus conquest portal maps?
Battlebit or red orchestra/rising storm : we would like to introduce our selves
Lol
Nothin like sniping a guy with buckshot from 130 meters
red orchestra and rising storm, games i like the design of, but the netcode give me 2005 delay based ptsd
UE3 moment
Allmost like the netcode is from 2005
I got the skill just need a squad
Anyone that uses railgun finding itâs not working against any tank type vehicles ?
Still works on aircraft and helicopters
Only stopped working since todays update but no patch note, wondering if itâs a stealth change
what do you mean not working?
i just repaired a tank that was getting kissed by the railgun so it works.
Iâve just played 3 rounds and railgun shots not registering with tanks
still registers with choppers
dunno seems to work fine for me
Is there a way to attach a video
there isn't you need a role to post attachments here
how
regular or booster role
what do you mean regular
!!regular
The Regular role is earned by users automatically who are active in chat and follow the server rules. With this role you can post/embed images, use some bot commands, and change what color you appear in chat.
Am I allowed to post a url ?
yes
What host do you recommend for a quick upload other than YouTube ? đ
that doesn't matter
talked decently here and #battlefield-legacy-titles
that channel isn't conversed on often
you're saying only this channel can get me the role?
and I've seen you multiple times
cool
what's your logic
you're asking if you've not been active for the regular role lol
when the message count isn't how it's attained
well sorry for not sending a single message for each passing hour
^
you can lose the role for inactivity too
I'd rather have one role for one channel than die in a hole
there isn't any role specific channels except EA ones
that's some grade A unfair policy
how is it unfair?
what if I got a life?
not active for a week, I get kicked out
it's actually more like a month
this bf being an arse,
and bf4 server don't even allow embedding except for memes
what's wrong with people
there's nothing wrong, only one complaining is you
Hello friends! I just got here, whatâs the tea?
I just want to share my bloody results
and be on my merry way
so does I'm sure every other passerby on here
at least the Portal server is free from this
@rocky kraken I love repair jockeying pilots who can fly stealths, so much fun to watch them blow stuff up
this is some outrageous shit
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It happened again Iâm just finding somewhere to upload the video and Iâll put a link in the channel, something seems off with the railgun hit detection on tanks since the new patch

I see it right there
Theyâre too⊠stealthy for me
If you could lase them or some sort of counter for stealth that isnât blind firing a M5
Then sure
they are actually broken
They need to be vulnerable to external spotting gadgets and have a cool-down on their stealth
sorry if the quality is a bit poop , I spotted the tank just to show itâs definitely an enemy vehicle thatâs being shot with the railgun and no hit detection
You donât get to keep all that heat inside without consequence
start taking damage if you're in stealth too long
Itâs happened on three different maps so not sure what is actually going on đ€Ł stealth update to stop railgun vs tanks?
Hi guys
On two occasions Iâve had tanks fail to even scratch other tanks
I kind of need some help here
Seems to be a recurring bug
I think im stuck on a bug ive never seen before
Lmao
I discovered a railgun bug I canât even hit tanks since new update lol
Average persistence data error
Oh, you mean that railgun
Yeah it kind of makes sense for it to not hurt tanks honestly
haha
They nerfed the railgun so it does less damage against tanks
Unless anyone knows more im wondering if itâs a stealth change with the new patch but thereâs no notes that I could see on the battlefield twitter link
Anyone would know how damn annoying it is to be getting plinked by somebody sitting well above your field of fire like two kilometres away
Wanna know what doesnât make sense? How your name is cmndr tano but your pfp is falco
I canât even get 5xp hit now with railgun it just does nothing
Could be in all honesty. Set up a custom portal match to test it and see if itâs consistent
What can i do to fix this error?
Why they do these stealth changes đ Iâll have to test that tomorrow
Sometimes the âBF2042 unable to load persistent dataâ error occurs just because of a temporary glitch. So, we recommend you restart the game and your PC/Console before trying any other advanced solutions. To restart the game console, you can press and hold the Power button until the console is turned off completely.22
From google
Already did
Also Uninstalled
Also Cleared cache data
Also googled
Nope it didnt
what about re installing the ea app?
Weird thing is, im able to play on Xcloud w no worries
Oh im playing on xbox sx
Or just fix your internet
I had persistence errors for a bit then I realized it was packet loss
Disable cross play
Yes but i need to startup the game to go to the menus
Let me check
If youâre playing Battlefield 2042 on an Xbox, you need to go to Settings > General > Online Safety & Family > Privacy and Online Safety > Xbox privacy > View Details and Customize > Communication and Multiplayer > Select Block under You can join cross-network play.
Found this on an ea forum
thats a hit, surely! Will try it right now!
hopefully that works đđ»
Most cases of persistence errors have been resolved. Usually they may be down to server performance or your internet
Thatâs how Iâve seen it
oh crap
How much packet loss
thankfully no more re installs just network fix required
0%
next battlefield to be the revolutionary war, and the story is just basically the patriot
My cat is on crack
Wait this confirmed?
no just an idea of mine
anyone else think dice should have been updating hazard zone
not even large updates
just adding the new maps
and fixes
meh wouldn't say so, dead by now
they stopped tracking hz player numbers like 1 week into launch
didnt require much work tbh
it was dead on arrival
everything is fun with friends
they need to fix latv spam on that mode, and maybe they would gain like 3 players on that mode
it was an interesting concept but HZ doesn't work with the native maps
not much land to use out of bounds thats remotely already good for play
yeah has alot of potentia
if dice gave portal any attention at all
which i hope s5 includes some portal maps
However knowing the Bf community
Maxiq did a video on the pp2000 and its just him saying the gun is op as he only plays against console players with no thumbs.....
Dice could really remove vtol from the f35 in exchange for the same fucking manouverability as the su57,seriously the f35 is hot garbage
It will never happen
Or they could add more jets to balance them out
Like the F22 to counter the felon
And the checkmate to counter the F35
Like he actively gets a 6 man while standing in front of all of them as they ignore him
the crossplay off lobby master
@limpid pond
Obviously the pp2000 is good against console players with no brains
Like they're actually looking at him as he murders them
No a single bullet shot in his direction and if it is they miss
Yeah,they should add at least 1 more jet,but it is fucking stupid that anyone with some mid controls can easily win a fight against an f35,dice should make all jets the same so that air combat actully turms into a battle of who has more skill
i wish i could play in one of those lobbies as a pc player just once or twice 
As a console player,lmgs are pretty good too,any high fire rate low recoil can do the job against them
Was using it before i unlocked the avancys,insane gun too
I mean it is unbalanced, it has the same damage range as the SFAR but with a slightly higher rate of fire.
Idk man. It's pretty shit still
what do you mean
The MTAR is still based
I can't form an opinion yet
It's like you can really only kill people with it if they aren't looking at you or suck
Yknow itâs funny
In BF4 I didnât care for the MTAR
But in 2042 I wanna use it
Holy shit
Itâs been near 10 years since the MTAR was in a battlefield game
I think it's funnier how DICE secretly changed the M39 EMR in this patch

it feels awful cause of the visual recoil and sharp vertical jump
That explains it
I like my rapid-tap weapons over my heavy hitting ones anyways
VCAR was my first DMR T1 lol
M39 not many people are using it but it's annoying to encounter
Mine was the svk
Paint
Pain
Itâs annoying to use because like Enders said - visual recoil
And since Iâm a controller player
SVK with a compensator and standard issue works
That shit suuuuuuucks
Yeah it's good now
Two-Taps at a decent range
Not good at close-range compared to automatics since, well it's semi-auto, that's just how it's usually gonna work
Just be big brain and use DM7
Use CQB rounds
Still won't be as fast as a VCAR
Eh fair
that's completely average battlefield gameplay tbf
Also why does the BSV not have any cool skins
I mean, you're not wrong. https://streamable.com/zk1mfs
Thereâs a few decent ones. But I agree
Yeah the pp2000 is still bad unless you shoot people who aren't looking at you
Also more people are now using the am40 which makes the gun useless
Itâs always been cracked.
P90 still hits
Heyy
So, yeah, something is not right at all, my PC says 0% packets lost, my xbox says 100%
The only game im not been able to open is battlefield 2042
I would love another true vietnam reboot
Im playing battlefield v right now with no worries
game on pc after update today crashes, had to change the EA launch to the desktop exe and works, but now getting directx error. Christ!
that would be great!
Imagine if they pulled in the textures team from Battlefront 2 for vietnam maps
My lord
It would be super emmersive that is for sure. It's my number one request, Vietnam redo.
Imma just go back to the pbx. I don't understand why I try to use the worst guns and be good with them
Would be nice if some things were to only happen near the end of the match
Why the PBX over the PO29?
Like the radio tower on Caspian border
Doesn't the PP29 have flat out better stats than the PBX?
Or the rocket
It looks like the port for xbox is having the same issues
Catlyst_HD said so
Agreed
If game doesn't launch on PC, use the EA desktop application rather than the EA launcher application. Works now. Fingers crossed.
@karmic egret that looks like an M98 in the bolt action category??
Also holy fuck is the plus system annoying to change order of attachments around in
Yeah, dice needs to bring this back
Apparently they made the ui into what it is now, because of performance issues
That's the ntws (whatever it's called)
Good thing that it's laggy as hell still
Indeed
Man tan ac42 look good
what the
Cursed
Dude that says tuning, interesting
XM250 on the second image just casually sitting there in the LMG tab
Does anyone use the VCAR?
Is it any good?
yeah its pretty good
What's the advantage of it over the DM7 with a short barrel?
How can i do that on xbox lol
all short barrel mods have higher rate of fire
where do i go for providing recommendation or feedback / be heard by dice
here lmao
omg that weapon has so much recoilll the RM277
??
the m5a3 my bad
this UI is so damn fuzzy
Itâs weird how those guns for the most part are the same ones we got at launch yet look so different in that menu
It does, itâs clearly folded.
ok that's cool but why
i gotta update it tonight
to take out those annoying tanks
cuz its folded
this has already been established
Itâs folded because it felt like looking extremely cursed
I'm confused doesn't the k30 in this game have a m4 stock?
Extra stability
Why was this ever scrapped
Probably just a mock hud.
Before they looked into it.
There's one weapon in there that's not in the game sadly.
And that's the Xm250...
I'm hoping they unbuff lis rocket range
Anyone else notice that in the normal breakthrough playlist, no maps other than Exposure, Kaleidoscope, Stranded, Breakaway, and Spearhead exist? Hourglass, Manifest, Discarded, and Renewal are MIA
I noticed the little watermark says 2021 for the year on the image
So it went from that to the beta to launch version in the same year interestingly
Ah
I donât know how that stuff works so thatâs interesting
Itâs probably just people backing out of those maps tbh, although I donât mean to beat a dead horse when I say thatâs why we need persistent servers and map voting
Little bird+ 2 lis players = unstoppable
Got 2 lis players shooting down helis or jets while I'm getting kills with the mini gun or rockets
They also repair
Yes, but all instances of them? Not a single match of Hourglass, Manifest, Discarded, or Renewal? I refuse to believe.
Somebody at DICE fudged up the rotation when they enabled seasons breakthrough or when 3.2.0 went live, I'm sure of it
Oh yeah I gotcha now I see what you mean
I mean I heard once that they pretty much put certain maps in a rotation for a set amount of time then it changes. So it seems like you get different maps more and donât get other maps enough, then itâll change. Rinse and repeat
because the map opens with naval assault?
just recently played my 2000th match
How to check? I wonder how many I played đ
hi, i'm new to the game and wondering which gamemode has the most players playing it?
It's epic
Just remember to bring a spawn beacon, save yourself the embarrassing "swim of shame" 
in game, profile, stats, its on the main list
Ah only about 1,100 lol
Wth I'm in the top 1.7% for melee kills I don't use it that much đ
man, 10/10 to the art team for the specialist cosmetics lately. they've been pretty rad
hey me too! lol I just finished tonight on my 2042nd match
goddamn
do yall think any movement changes will come to 2042
already did
backwards prone but you're automatically 3D spotted the entire time you're doing it 
did servers just die?
I think almost everything about bfv is great, but that. So many times thinking it was a dead body.
Remember
Battlefield heroes let you wear denim as a soldier
Hi! How do I actually fix Battlefield 2042 looping intro cinematic?
is there any technical support in here? or anyone that knows how to fix this specific issue? thanks
lmao that's amazing
in dice's attempt to make the jav unable to lock onto tracer darts out of line of sight
they also made it unable to lock out of line of sight AT ALL
thanks for making the jav all but inferior to the M5
Lemme guess, the heli players complained again?
or just pro coding
gorund armor would be more suitable tbh
heli players can simply outrun javs and can get shot by M5s
javs can jump over terrain and smash ground armor
they always do
they just want helis to be flying fortresses that these missiles should only do like 5 damage
i think the nightbird needs to have a movement nerf
I cannot wait for squad management back. That's been my biggest complaint lately. Squadmates just flying around doing nothing or hiding somewhere meanwhile myself and a squadmate are trying to work together to do something.
Night birds are free kills with Lisâs middle lol
And stealth helis
I donât understand. They said theyâd fixed it locking things behind cover, but you are annoyed they donât lock behind cover?
yeah if you hit them
for tracer darts bud
atleast read the patch notes
Yeah I know, tracer darts canât be locked on behind cover. Good. But heâs gone on and said that theyâve removed them being able to lock behind cover at all, which is literally what that change was for
Well, doesnât matter anyway
While I dodge a ton of Lis missiles as I play a ton of NightBird, they are by far the #1 way I die. A good Lis can snipe me out. They're fun to dodge and play around though.
pretty sure that locking through cover is intended with SOFLAM
can do the same thing in 4
Aggressive beeping
Wouldnât be that big of a deal if Rao didnât act as a personified SOFLAM
me when I flare to stop a HACK
and then fly away and fuck off until I gain line of sight, shoot him, and then continue my spree
rao is just total ass ham
it only takes one.
he's immediately inferior to every other specialist because his tracer dart lacks a useful niche
And that doesnât mean there will be just one.
remind me what's stopping a heli for example from flaring, and using that flare time to just shoot the rao
because flares last as long as bf4 ecm
Having limited flares generally
congrats, your hack attempt was useless, 6 seconds of free fly time means you just got pounded to shit by a heli
and enjoy stealth heli bombs
you'll love it
this game desperately needs to undo the jav nerf and do laser javelins like in 4
Flare duration is a bit long Iâll admit
You have plenty of time to fight for a bit before finding suitable cover
But I just use the Gustav against helis anyway
With the speed buff itâs much easier
Just add some sort of low zoom, potentially even iron sight and itâll be easier to take out aircraft
what they need to do is massively increase the javelin travel speed and undo that shitty "fix" to allow it to lock through cover again
so we can actually punish people who are too slow on the draw and camp while they wait for their countermeasures to charge again for the 37th attack run
the javelin now has no reason to exist
Well the design behind a lock on rocket is that you expose yourself in exchange for greater damage and enemy tracking. If you can do all that behind cover then thereâs no risk
Just like lis
Except for what I just mentioned
except that the laser designator 100% has to expose himself and also with the bright red glint
Thatâs the point
so
the laser designator is at risk
an infantry with a jav isn't
what's the point
If the infantry player can just lock on to aircraft no less from behind cover then thereâs no risk at all
I don't really think a javelin should lock onto people through cover.
Especially with the current state of the tracer dart.
that's your opinion, but it worked that way in 4 and continues to work wonderfully as such
I donât know why people think that thatâs how it should work.
How people who are being locked on have no warning.
Hereâs the thing with BF4. The Javelin was a weapon you picked up on the map. You canât spawn with it, but you can in 2042
So it canât be the same way that it is in BF4.
Javelin was a weapon you spawned with.
You can just equip it as an engineer
clearly did not play bf4 if you think it's a pickup lmao
Hm.
I got mixed up, okay. Christ.
Get off my back itâs 4 AM.
cope
regardless, 4 continues to handle laser designation better
you deserve punishment for extending without countermeasures
rockets travel at a speed that is more than adequate for hitting targets including air vehicles
you don't get a free pass just because you hold shift and run for the bounds with a jet
you suffer the consequence of being cocky and die for it instantly
It should have a different designation icon so launcher users know if itâs a Soflam on a vehicle or a dart shot on a teammate.
Well you can do that as lis now
@sturdy socket No need for you to be rude dude.
Empty diamond.
Or something.
And jets turn slow enough to make taking them down in the wildcat pretty easy
cool
lis's rocket really shouldn't even be there
just nah
well it is
good for you
i don't understand why jav speed was butchered so badly
there was no way it was on accident
someone thought a rocket should travel that slow and that it was acceptable
Well the stinger got its speed buffed, so you could just use that. Or the Gustav which also had its speed buffed
As if a rocket built for tanks shouldn't be used against fast movers.
i started using the m5 again but what's the point in hitting an air vehicle with it if it'll hit for maybe 25%
A wildcat has its turn rate buffed, lis has had everything buffed. Basically every anti vehicle thing has been buffed
Running c4 as an assault is weird.
when an aircraft can simply fly away and onboard repair the damage
I think to myself I need ammo box but I can't use it / don't need to.
They get no warning that the rocket is hurling towards them, you trade off the speed and stealth. Would you rather do some damage or none at all because there is a forewarning?
me when I can't use a rocket on infantry because guys it's not meant for that purpose
just because it's not meant for a purpose does not mean it cannot be used as such, nor should a rocket underperform game wise like that especially when a previous title had it far better
Games have different balancing scenarios.
that's not really a good excuse for underpowering a teamwork oriented mechanic
You could use a pure AA rocket on a tank and it won't get you very far. Same application using pure AT on a fast mover.
If you want best of both worlds use Carl Gustav.
not at all, one lacks armor penetration but the other is complete overkill and should act as such
I killed an enemy Bolte with the FXM once
It was back when we still had 128p BT and Boltes were a menace.
the amount of teamwork required to attack an evasive target should equal to the reward
Use AA rocket on tank.
"That didn't get me very far.
Use AT rocket on fast mover.
"Wow that didn't get me very far"
in this instance your reward is just getting flared
Quickscoping the Gustav is how I get by without a low zoom sight, works quite well actually
Almost as if I should use the correct weapon for the scenario.
me when a javelin travels at mach and your entire argument falls apart
Almost as if the game isnât meant to replicate real life
so then if your argument is for game balance
why is a javelin unable to catch up with a jet that just lost its flares before it can completely regenerate a new set
Almost as if we're playing a game.
Because itâs an Anti tank rocket, not an anti air. The AA launcher would be required to hit it
If a jet can out speed a rocket good for them.
do you have reading comprehension issues
thanks for pointing the obvious out, buddy
not you
anti air rockets don't work on armor because they lack armor pen, and that's replicated as such
conversely, anti armor works on air
and it should
unless you're against balancing in the way of common sense
Its original purpose is an AT launcher and firing it at something like a transport aerial craft is stretching its purpose.
it might be overkill but it sure as shit would have the capability of catching up lmao
How is it not common sense for the anti air rocket to be focussed on damaging air and anti tank to be focussed on targeting armour
That seems pretty logical to me
that's not at all the point
it should have more than enough speed to catch up with aircraft, something that it can target but only under special parameters
are you gonna make an actual argument or just gonna piggyback
To be honest. The reality is I don't really give a shit about using a javelin on a jet. As I've stated, using a launcher that was made for tanks on an air vehicle is stretching its purpose and if an air vehicle like the jet outruns it even, I'm not gonna act shocked.
donât see why I have to.
You're the one coming in here complaining.
but I want to
gee, I sure wonder what a discussion channel is for
With that attitude of yours people are gonna respond.
Besides there are plenty other methods of targeting air, by using you know, equipment specialised in damaging air targets
what are you gonna do about it.

not humor you prolly
then donât đ
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Aks got a minor buff.
balance wise, laser designation is meant to significantly increase damage
good for it I guess
But is rendered irrelevant by the pp2000 and the 29.
So that's cool balancing ig.
Mtar also has a 50m 5hk.
Base.
firing a jav on a laser is an option, and in terms of damage a highly rewarded one
I still wanna know why the PP2000 buff was decided to be necessary
but a high damage means nothing when it can't hit a target that just lost its countermeasures
I meant buff. Stupid autocorrect
Most likely because it underperformed.
So, the choice is to overbuff the shit out of it?
I would honestly give it the niche of a highly accurate smg.
Its hipfire is amazing.
Pp29 should have the worse range tho.
Of the three.
Pp2000 completely outclasses heavy pp29 which I like as they both share the same side of the coin.
But I feel as if the aks should have its range while the 29 and 2000 should have the same.
Iâm not sure I think itâs justified that the PP2000 shares the same damage model as the SFAR for no particular reason
If I had to assume.
AA and AT use the same booster mechanics for missiles, but AT has a higher penetration and damage ceiling
do you even missile?
The hotfix being relatively released quickly means they didn't have much to test.
We are aware haze.
yea but how do you fuck up the tracer dart removing LOS for soflam too?
Los?
they never do but thatâs beside the point
They both do the same thing so fixing one over the other wouldnât make sense
You mean as in locking on to targets through cover?
That was a feature exclusive to the javelin.
They do test.
:/
lmao
yes, but that change fucked SOFLAM's for jav as well
I donno
In the patch notes they mentioned it was for the javelin.
I donno about that
A javelin exclusive feature.
i don't care for the tracer dart nerf, but it removed the whole top-down thing for javs
tracer darts were pretty pointless even before the nerf
Guess I can try to test and see what can be done.
we tested it, the update also removed javs being able to lock onto soflams without LOS
and javs still have unbearable speed, even helis can outrun them
lol.
Top down attack removal which gives it the boosted velocity alright.
I think the tracer darts half of the time straight up don't even work
nah tracer darts where just inferior compared to soflam
Or maybe I'm doing it wrong
tracer darts have no advantage over SOFLAM right now, anything the dart can do the soflam does better
cause it's impractical
the time it takes to dart is time you could be using an actual gun
You donât need to maintain constant visual of what you are locking, it can fly behind cover and maintains the designation
Who on earth would shoot someone with a gun when they have an rpg
same thing for soflam, it retains lock 10s after the fact
if you need more than 10s to kill a lock tbh, you / the squad / your team is doing it wrong
Oh yeah bullet you should try out the drum mag ak as an assault.
Iâve seen itâs mag size
I'll still that mag now that it's viable.
Seems about time to return to my baby, the good ol ak 24
Just funny running 200 in reserve with the drums now.
You do carry 5 drums with the assault proficiency right?
Now Way, imagine XM8 AR with the LMGs 100 round mags 
There was this dude running the scar on the opposite side and I had to prove I am the superior scar user.
Hah.
or someone doesn't get the javelin memo and attempts to fire on any air target
unfortunately a lot of people are gonna learn that the hard way
@low timber Talking about that. The xm8 MG only has a 100 round mag instead of 101.
Now.
Small but I knew something was off.
then we'll have even less anti vehicle launcher users as a result
The ak after the recoil fix just feels good
Why would it be 101?
So does the m16. And the scar.
closed bolt
Or you mean 100+1?
or players even, because what's the point when you'll just be bombed when you have no real counter
Most likely because mag in the chamber was left in.
lol moment
implying soflam even gets used lmao
Truth be told. I've never mag dumped an xm8 and emptied its mag.
me when level 56 requirement to even use
Itâs a dang shame my uni wifi doesnât allow for any kind of online play, would be nice to play for a bit before this meeting
56 levels just to realize going back to bf4 is a good option aswell
I had to book a train ticket, wake up early and get to uni for a 10 minute meeting at 10:50 >:(
when will season 4 get revealed
After every shot you need to change the lightbulb 
You shouldâve used a gun you donât enjoy to farm easy kills 
I love that one guy that looked at tbe truck.
Shuddap marse!
Talking about that.
I got the pso and thermal 2.5x for the dm7 and svk.
Gonna try to get them done eventually.
Has there been any mention to a reversion to the supposed fix that was meant to nerf the m1 garand looking thing
I got Crawford done on Monday
No idea
Probably
I canât remember all these weapon names ;(
Iâll see if I can find it on the wiki
yeah, the m39 emr
Most likely.
Cause I want to use it before it's fixed
Same.
Abuse broken gun.
Better svk yes.
It's bf3 all over again when someone spam fires their m39 and they hit you in the fucking head.
the rof for that headshot damage is insanity
might be better once they fix the headshot but even then it's fast
as I said last time, i love close range sniping and this thing is basically a rapid fire sniper
Yeah.
People be like oooo it's a bug.
No it's fucking not it's clearly intentional since they kept it in.
It's it's original bf3 damage model too.
Remember when dice was proud of their vaulting system and then only used it twice near after launch to vault Dozerâs shield and Motion sensor balls?
To it's like. Oh. :)
I was under the impression they had flipped the damage values so the suppressed became the default