battlefield-2042

[next onyx]

Rm277 being a competitor to the sig mcx.

Alternate RPK.

And an smg.

That's pretty fucking interesting.

[upbeat sand]

I wonder if that sticky launch will be added

[next onyx]

We will see.

[upbeat sand]

It would help Assault have explosives since they are ment to be frontlines, but also C5 is too antitank instead of infantry

[ripe hedge]

oh no

[topaz field]

time to listen to episode 4 i wonder what madness that alex guy have in store for us next season

[lucid goblet]

https://tenor.com/view/kool-aid-man-kool-aid-juice-gif-8291586

[upbeat sand]

Comparing choosing the between the kids and 2042 attachments on Vault weapons

[pine roost]

what's that

[topaz field]

The Next Generation Squad Weapon program

[pine roost]

what's that

[topaz field]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Next_Generation_Squad_Weapon_Program#:~:text=The Next Generation Squad Weapon,systems for the new weapons.

[next onyx]

The new standard rifle replacement.

[upbeat sand]

The podcast talks something about adding Vault weapons on if they wanna choose between spending time on skins and attachments or just to get more guns out there

Or at least that's what I got

[pine roost]

oh dang are they both the same guns as the ones in 2042?

[topaz field]

the avancy was apart of the ngsw bbut got rejected by the US army

[next onyx]

The (x)m250 instead won.

[pine roost]

my head is going to explode with all these weapon names

[wide shore]

Yeah the LMG isn’t in 2042 but the Spear is. (M5A3)

[next onyx]

Which uses the same round as the (x)m5 which has been renamed to the (x)m7 to avoid copyright with the colt m5.

[pine roost]

I just can't

[next onyx]

There's a HUD element with the xm250.

[topaz field]

i think its called the LMC

[next onyx]

But it's not in the files.

[topaz field]

i do hope we get the sig m18

feel like we dont have enogh pistols as well

[pine roost]

can't think of any other variation of pistol that could be added that is actually meaningful

Mozambique but make it bullpup

[ripe hedge]

There is one tho 👀

[pine roost]

A pistol shotgun?

[arctic grove]

good job

[topaz field]

https://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2021/05/06/fn-evolys-new-ultralight-machine-gun/

Avancy

[lucid goblet]

Did you clear with Legal with you being in here btw "s4 has my favourite weapon" 👀

[topaz field]

i would like a sig 320 pistol

[next onyx]

.410 JURY.

[pine roost]

you're just saying numbers here that I don't understand, I won't lie

[next onyx]

@ripe hedge PBX has always been a killer. That being said. Are you aware that standard rounds have less range than close combat?

[topaz field]

one my favorite since early access

my main assault rifle is AC-42

[ripe hedge]

im aware we need to smooth out some edges

[kindred flint]

It's a bullet..make it pointier

[topaz field]

cant wait for season 6

[next onyx]

Yeah. 4HK 20M range with close combat and then 4hk 10M with standard like huh.

[upbeat sand]

" "when are we bringing back the bipod knife" I'm like man I don't know what to tell you"

Awwwwww

Dice plz

[topaz field]

i wonder if we are getting smart scopes the Vortex Optics XM-157

[shy forum]

Hek. Way you have to send me all your loadouts

[next onyx]

@shy forum Ask me in DMs what guns you want my loadouts for and I'll gladly help.

[shy forum]

I will

[upbeat sand]

I am really sick of people always using Close combat the moment they unlock it no matter what

[next onyx]

Yeah close combat is better at a range.

For the PBX.

Which is weird.

[pine roost]

what about that one attachment that has both -recoil control and +recoil control on it

[upbeat sand]

FUCK YEAHHHHHHH

i got to the cookie of the week

[next onyx]

Which one is that Bullet.

[pine roost]

can't say for sure since I'm not at my pc, might have to search a bit but it's there somewhere

[topaz field]

they're tlking about the LMG's but i feel like they need more work like a overheat feature

[fervent rose]

pbx standard issue just needs higher damage values at range compared to close combat, they dont need to adjust the up close 4btk at all

[pine roost]

I'm just unsure whether it evens out to no recoil change or favours one over the other

[upbeat sand]

Main ones are Standed, close combat, high power and subsonic

[lunar finch]

honestly after the smg nerfs the pbx doesn't even feel good anymore

all the smgs are kinda bad now

[upbeat sand]

Cause no one remembers armour pearcing amo exists

[topaz field]

they still good

[fervent rose]

pbx with close combat and a laser is gas

but not on large maps/sectors

[lunar finch]

even the pp2000

:)

[fervent rose]

the ttk is really fucking good for the cc pbx

[ripe hedge]

i distinctly remember that cookie, first bite was like hey this is nice
by the end i was completely dehydrated

[next onyx]

They're nice when you have water on hand...

[upbeat sand]

"Dreams" as in if you eat too much you'll sleep forever

[fervent rose]

I would really like a 3rd revolver that does a hybrid role of rex/m44. like the M27 from bfv

[upbeat sand]

Rex hipfire when

[next onyx]

Aug would be cool to see.

At least.

[fervent rose]

also the mark vi from "1942" or bfv in portal would be nice, if it played like bfv's

[upbeat sand]

It's basically the Rex

The 2042/portal Rex

[next onyx]

It's literally a copy and paste of the Rex. The Webley.

[fervent rose]

I guess, I don't like the rex compared to it

[upbeat sand]

Animation is slightly different on how you put in extra bullets tho

Not by much

The Mkvi does also have the Rex spin reload

[fervent rose]

m6 in bfv felt much better to use than 2042 rex

[wise zodiac]

Morning everyone. Fucking autocorrect.

[topaz field]

i havent unlocked that one as yet

[lunar finch]

dont do that to yourself

[arctic grove]

Don't fuck autocorrect

[unkempt wagon]

lfg for casual gameplay conquest/break 2042

[lucid goblet]

!!lfg

[tender pendant]

ℹ Looking for Players to play with?
Head over to the Looking For Games channel category.
Please remember to state your region when looking for players to play with!
#lfg-crossplay #lfg-pc #lfg-xbox #lfg-playstation

[patent path]

yo why is the podcast intro music so fire

[topaz field]

i like hte Mtar

🤘

[willow sky]

pbx mains rise up

who needs recoil

[arctic grove]

why did the guy just give up at trying to speak

like at the 51 minute mark

alex talking bout his fav weapon

probably a bullpup

[lucid goblet]

Prob because it's to do with S4,so they have to watch what they mention/say

[arctic grove]

no like

he sounded done

[frozen nest]

[arctic grove]

man was speaking like his vocal cords were on life support

[lucid goblet]

Think that's just Ben's strong welsh accent maybe

[frozen nest]

I don't know if S4 has more content, but I think it should be impossible. They are too lazy😂

[arctic grove]

We cant talk bout s4 but 4 WEAPONS 🤯

also did you hear that there is going to be 4 entire weapons???!!!!

dont forget bout 4 weapons!

Bandaar desert when

[frozen nest]

Compared with S1, S2 and S3

I suddenly found that there are many weapons in S4

[regal sphinx]

Season 4 should be the opportunity to bring some new Portal Content to the table.

A package with some iconic BF4 maps would be great: Wake Island and Parcel Storm (alongside Naval Vehicles) or Siege of Shanghai and Zavod 311 (great Allrounder maps) and in in Season 5 a package for the CQ-Enthusiasts (Metro, Locker, Donda Fortress, Ziba Tower). All of them for 64-Exodus Conquest. 😍

[arctic grove]

and bring back china

[remote kiln]

can't wait for more hardcore 120000% damage wake Island servers

[ripe hedge]

I got a gun pushed further against my skin

[wide shore]

Lol

I gotta listen to the cast this week

I wanna know where the AN94 is

[patent path]

whoever said that pineapple doesn't go on pizza

you are right

[wide shore]

Facts

[ripe hedge]

Where it should be

[arctic grove]

I wanna know where the ol reliable m4 is

not m416

but ar-15 looking m4

[spiral folio]

Replaced by the m5?

[arctic grove]

I mean bizon was replaced too

its still in 2042

[wide shore]

It should be in AOW

[spiral folio]

Theres a bunch of ancient weapons in 2042

[arctic grove]

well why not have m4 too

[wide shore]

This game is begging for a good burst gun

[spiral folio]

But like if the m4 were added itd be as a portal weapon

Theres plenty of crappy 556 assault rifles in the game

[arctic grove]

m4 is iconic tho

[spiral folio]

Its just "another rifle" besides its not like any gun in the game is so superbly modeled that subtle nuances in different performance are actually present

[arctic grove]

gun look cool

I use

[spiral folio]

Id say the m5 basically performs like the m4 "should"

[arctic grove]

does it look like an m4 tho

[spiral folio]

Medium damage decent handling

Pretty much

The "every AR based rifle ever" shape

[arctic grove]

epic

graphics driver crashed

[ember nimbus]

I mean it's supposed to be the M4's successor, no?

[coral token]

What is the meta weapon in BF 2042 right now?

[spiral folio]

Yea its also supposed to be more powerful

But its as powerful as the 5.45x39mm AK24

So fir all real purposes its basically 5.56mm all over again

[arctic grove]

why add any weapon ever

if they're all the same

[quaint vector]

Talking about weapons.? 👀

[arctic grove]

yes

[quaint vector]

I like weapons..

[spiral folio]

The main difference seems to be the m5 can semi-auto
The ak24 is automatic

[arctic grove]

I like cool looking weapons

[spiral folio]

Battlefield games seem to have a really hard time knowing what caliber is

So you get 20mm guns with 2 hit kills or 6.5mm performing like 5.56

[quaint vector]

PP-29

[arctic grove]

ak with very beeg mag

[spiral folio]

Basically the only realistic thing about ingame weapons is the appearance maybe fire rate. Beyond that balance like damage, velocity? Etc is totally arbitrary

[lucid goblet]

https://twitter.com/BattlefieldComm/status/1625166180192333825?s=20&t=xlRsTvMT7gTSoku3eRLonA

Battlefield Direct Communication (@BattlefieldComm)

Update 3.2.1 for #Battlefield2042 goes live tomorrow, Feb 14 @ 09:00 UTC

Catch up on what's changing via our Update Notes 👇
https://t.co/5rTfGdI0Rq

Twitter · Feb 13, 2023, 4:13 PM

[regal sphinx]

Can't say anything about China Rising, only own BF4 Vanilla. But I heared praise about the Package, especially Dragon Pass and Guilin Peaks. China as a third Option besides the US and Russia would be nice indeed. And the Dirt Bike would be cool af. 😎

[next onyx]

Guns guns guns.

[regal sphinx]

I love Hardcore - 1hit kills are fine by me.

[next onyx]

Definitely would be cool to see a motorbike in this new map and or retroactively added.

[arctic grove]

they need to add a lambo

[spiral folio]

Tractor?

[shy forum]

Bye bye tracer darts, was nice using you

[spiral folio]

They were really low velocity in previous games so

[regal sphinx]

Like in BFV?
Nice!

I hope they bring back fortification.

[spiral folio]

That doesnt surprise me

[shy forum]

It's not about the velocity

[spiral folio]

Lamborghini started as a tractor company

They still make em

[regal sphinx]

Fortification to build your own sandbags and containers. 👍

[spiral folio]

Maybe add a forklift/bulldozer to do that

[quaint vector]

Hotfix Update tomorrow...?

[next onyx]

Javelins locking onto painted targets through walls really fucked counterplay up. Nvm the fact that tanks aren't warned.

[shy forum]

12 seconds instead of 40. That is bad

[next onyx]

I feel they may reverse some of the changes once a proper fix comes through.

[hybrid totem]

Still no indicator of being tagged though

Given a choice between more guns, and more traversal vehicles, I wonder which most infantry players would want

[fervent rose]

there's plenty of traversal vehicles in the game they just dont have the asset count or something, because they certainly are hard to find in a match

[crimson basin]

I just want an atv which is the rarest vehicle

[fervent rose]

yea like the Quad is just way too rare

[quaint vector]

Good I have my Polaris Sportsman Quad Bike on Tier 1

[hybrid totem]

Like using the call in tablet, you should be able to summon a near-infinite number of traversal vehicles

[shy forum]

Tell me the secret. How.

[honest stratus]

Game is running like a schizo with parkinsons, anybody know how to fix?

[hybrid totem]

Then just make em blow up without interaction

A psychiatrist to start.

You're going to have to be more specific

[honest stratus]

Its lagging like crazy

Even tho my ms is like 20

[final plume]

Purchased the game last week, maxed out all of the guns (almost) and unlocked all of the portal guns.

I think something is wrong with me, I don't know.

[honest stratus]

Like the animations are slow and stuttering kinda laggy

gunshots too

[hybrid totem]

Is your cpu maxed out

[honest stratus]

Lemme run the game and check real quick

[quaint vector]

Ranger / SOFLAM / Spot Senzors

[restive rampart]

wow jets in bf4 are so different from bf2

[honest stratus]

it jumped from 34% to 100% as soon as i launched it

[magic bloom]

It’s cause they actually have a use

[restive rampart]

ugh its a whole new system though

was decent at bf2 jets, cant even stop crashing in bf4

on try 1 anyway

[stark rover]

Why is Zain support class in hazard zone?

[quaint vector]

Probably not patched in HZ

[stark rover]

All the specialists are in a weird order

[fervent rose]

nobody looks at HZ anymore

[stark rover]

Wdym, the Devs?

[fervent rose]

well, both

[magic bloom]

I mean they did stop support for HZ

[stark rover]

Ohhhhh

[fervent rose]

nobody played it because its pointless and now devs no longer pay attention to it as they should

it would be wasted effort

[stark rover]

But I like it 😥

Lol maybe that's why it takes 5 mins to load into a half empty lobby

[magic bloom]

They should add a normal tube fed semi auto shotgun to the game

[fervent rose]

what is there in hazard zone that you get that you cant get in conquest

or some kind of custom portal mode

basically nothing

[magic bloom]

The entire gamemode

[stark rover]

I like the coins and shit

[fervent rose]

nah the gameplay systems for hazard zone do not change the game like they would have to

[magic bloom]

I don’t like HZ but it’s there

[fervent rose]

its the most barebones and underdeveloped "extract" shooter mode ever

[stark rover]

Yeah tbf it's not exactly fleshed out

I do enjoy that type of mode tho

[magic bloom]

Pretty sure it was originally planned to be the only mode

Then they swapped and made AOW

[stark rover]

Idk what that is lol

[magic bloom]

All out Warfare

Conquest, breakthrough, rush

[honest stratus]

CPU usage is at a constant 100% and my GPU is on 40%?

[magic bloom]

That’s bf2042 for you

[honest stratus]

Is this game just that shitty optimised?

[chilly jacinth]

what cpu do you even have

[honest stratus]

ryzen 5 5600x

And a rtx 2080

Not the best but still kinda high end

[chilly jacinth]

explains the high usage

[honest stratus]

is the game having issues with AMD cpu's or sum?

[spiral folio]

You could back off the settings

[chilly jacinth]

the game really likes alot of cores

8 preferably

[honest stratus]

They are all at low

[spiral folio]

Potato mode :v

[honest stratus]

Still stuttering so much its basically unplayable

[spiral folio]

That's kinda weird

No other processes are running?

I had this happen when windows photo viewer kept causing memory leaks

[honest stratus]

Discord and some smaller ones like MSI afterburner

[spiral folio]

If you use it even once it keeps building

[honest stratus]

other than that no

Im only really having issues running BF 2042

[spiral folio]

Otherwise that's the only time ive had it happen

I doubt my intel i7 4xxx is vastly faster if youve got a 2080

[vague horizon]

Idk for me most of the usage is split between my cpu and gpu

[spiral folio]

Yea something seems off

[last niche]

HZ?

still playing firestorm

in bfv

[honest stratus]

yeah thats what is supposed to happen but my CPU goes up to 100% and Gpu to 30% maybe 40%

[elfin void]

I'm listening to the BF pod atm but damn 1 of the devs has such terrible vocal fry, makes it hard to listen to

[spiral folio]

Is it always at 100%

[elfin void]

And I really like the podcast

[honest stratus]

Welp not gonna murder my CPU over this game so guess im gonna play something else

[spiral folio]

Like e nonstop stuttering

Or is it sometime ok

[chilly jacinth]

if you havent played a map before it will build shaders for it

[honest stratus]

Everything is stuttering, gunshots, movement, ads etc

[chilly jacinth]

which can cause stutters

[spiral folio]

I mean like is it always doing it or is there time it runs fine

[honest stratus]

i havent had issues this bad since like launch, it was fine back in season 1

[vague horizon]

Have u restarted ur pc perhaps

[spiral folio]

In the performance monitor or resource monitor you can go under details and filter by cpu usage and list what's using the most

[vague horizon]

Or has this been a constant issue

[spiral folio]

Its really weird it was fine and got wirse because the game is more optimized now

[honest stratus]

Just tried wiping the cache folder and verifying the game files

Gonna check if it worked

[spiral folio]

You've got something using resources beyind the game i think so that wont do it

[chilly jacinth]

he just said he didnt

[spiral folio]

The game has improved performance while you specifically have lost performance

[vague horizon]

I think theres a way to split usages between both ur cpu and gpu but i forgot

[honest stratus]

No its literally Battlefield just eating up over 90% of it

[spiral folio]

The windows photo viewer memory bug goes away if you restart so generally thats the easiest fix

Have you checked your settings recently

Nvidia sometimes thinks it knows better

And will change things

[chilly jacinth]

i dont know a single person that leaves that on

[honest stratus]

I do that everyday before using it

yeah ok it runs better after wiping the cache

Still kinda bad but thats prolly just cuz dice sucks at optimizing

[spiral folio]

The game is way more optimized than when it started

[ebon pilot]

It'd be cool if during the end round screen, along with showing battle-pass progression, the game also showed mastery progression.

plz dice, I need number-go-up dopamine

[honest stratus]

Prolly also the fact the 128 player game modes are the only ones avillable

What happend to the 64 ones

[fervent rose]

no thats not true. they made breakthrough into 64 and Rush 32 is a permanent mode, even if its kinda mid cause they arent really rush maps

[honest stratus]

Where they at

Wait nvm

I swear there was 64 player conquest tho

[fervent rose]

there is during limited time modes, or the weekly exodus conquest playlist

[chilly jacinth]

exodus conquest rotates

with other conquest playlists

[quaint vector]

Sometimes Breakthrough rotates as well.. I think Rush as well.

[fervent rose]

Yeah like they had 128 breakthrough as a limited time, same with Rush xl 128

[cosmic sequoia]

Wonder if they fixed the vehicle timer bug….

[magic bloom]

The one where after the timer ends it still doesn’t spawn?

[nocturne storm]

I want rush xl back, when it was out last week I was busy troubleshooting my new pc so only ended up playing one game XD

[fervent rose]

no theres a different new one where the timer doesnt update properly on screen in real time

[magic bloom]

Ah

[nocturne storm]

Ight so season 4, how y’all feeling?

[quaint vector]

Season 4 where.

[fervent rose]

if season 4 reverted the exposure breakthrough layout, that would be a banger update

[minor ferry]

if season 4 revert ammo and medic crate back to how V does it right now, that would be a banger update

[fervent rose]

that way the Seasons playlist would actually be awesome

[minor ferry]

I actually like the new layout

[fervent rose]

i like the first sector fine. but the middle sector with the floating office/helipad and tunnel plays so much slower

[lilac dust]

I wouldn't mind the mcom's being on top of the skyscrapers in kailedoscope if they would make the spawn points exclusively on top of the skyscrapers

[echo yew]

More and more hype… for BF7

[fervent rose]

the problem with this is that they are just too small for 64 players

[minor ferry]

the exposure has so many layouts that it's best to play in bt

[lilac dust]

Well rush is 32 players

[fervent rose]

isnt kaleido rush a rooftop obj at the end

pretty sure it is

[honest stratus]

If they decide to do the same as they did for BF 2042 and fuck up again the battlefield series is probably over

[nocturne storm]

Bro rush is one sided as fuck on certain maps

[echo yew]

Wonder how the hourglass rework will go tbh

[echo yew]

Not probably, it IS over if that’s the case

[jovial jay]

Hope not but also probably no

[echo yew]

2 fuck ups in a row they can’t fuck up a third

[lilac dust]

yeah. I think normal rush has an appropriate playercount to allow spawn points to be on top of the skyscrapers during the last mcoms

[jovial jay]

As if the backlash isnt enough

[fervent rose]

its still mid as hell as a sector

[jovial jay]

2?

BfV?

[echo yew]

Cause i can’t see it working unless they remake the map from 0

[fervent rose]

not the best 2042 rush final sector at all

[stray python]

I only needed a $4000 PC, to have a good experience, bless you dice for your amazing optimizations in this game

[minor ferry]

you got a yellow beautiful plain/high tech room/debris in one map

[echo yew]

I hear BFV had a shit launch, granted it’s a minor misstep compared to 2042’s catastrophic launch

[jovial jay]

Lol yea

6h after launch and its already disastrous

[fervent rose]

bfv's marketing was maybe one of the worst ive ever seen in videogames

[honest stratus]

BFV got good towards the end however thats when they stopped supporting it

[jovial jay]

It wasnt ok the first time I play the 2042 beta on Orbital

So I knew what was coming anyway

[fervent rose]

even if the game was great, and it was fun by say the Pacific update, the marketing killed bfv

[honest stratus]

It is good now but wasnt at launch

Still miles above 2042 tho

[jovial jay]

Now they're putting 128 players mode behind clicks

[echo yew]

i hope they keep 128 player modes

[nocturne storm]

That’s hilarious because it’s true

[fervent rose]

128 conquest isnt going anywhere

[echo yew]

but tbh the focus should be on 64

For the next game i mean

[jovial jay]

128 is fun when the performance work

[fervent rose]

oh well then yea say goodbye

i hope at least

80 max

[jovial jay]

Most of the time I just play in s l o w m o

In 128

[honest stratus]

yeah i would play it more its just that the performance is so god awfull on it

Just results in a jankfest

[arctic grove]

thats not ok

[nocturne storm]

Yea you need a flagship system to be able to run 128 mode

Else it’s a shit show

[fervent rose]

and even then, the 64 player mode is way smoother

[nocturne storm]

True

[arctic grove]

When I played 128 during the event it would run fine and sometimes drop to 65 fps

[fervent rose]

you still take a performance hit on even like a $4000 pc

[nocturne storm]

especially on spearhead indoors,

I would drop to 70 on my old system

[honest stratus]

I can legit run Arma 3 multiplayer better than 128 modes

[acoustic seal]

$3000 pc on all low will still dip below 100fps in fights

[arctic grove]

o

I play on ultra

[nocturne storm]

Now I drop to 160 on my updated one where usually it’s 200

[jovial jay]

Lmao you guys are in luxury

I get below 40fps drop

[nocturne storm]

Lmfao

[jovial jay]

[nocturne storm]

Ouch

[jovial jay]

No problem in 64 tho

[arctic grove]

do u play in 600p or some shit

tf

[nocturne storm]

No 1440p

[jovial jay]

Tight objective fight in 128 mode is pure dread

[nocturne storm]

I run a 13900kf

Used to run a 10700f

Which couldn’t deal with it

[fervent rose]

it's pretty much unplayable, just random zerging @jovial jay

[jovial jay]

Yea

[fervent rose]

rush xl especially is bad for this

[jovial jay]

Its really cpu heavy

[radiant prism]

I normally play on a pre-built PC and it handles it just fine

[nocturne storm]

Yea In rush I used to be at 90

[radiant prism]

I’m trying to find out the specs though because it’s not my personal PC

My uni has an esports lounge

Which is dope as fuck

Especially for a small school like mine

[arctic grove]

personal personal computer

[nocturne storm]

Yea check what cpu it is

[radiant prism]

Shut lol

[radiant prism]

Yeah I’m asking rn, I’ve never actually looked

[nocturne storm]

You basically need a daddy cpu to run this shit

[radiant prism]

Well

My laptop runs it pretty well too

[arctic grove]

mines struggling

[radiant prism]

Which has a 3070

[arctic grove]

12400f

[nocturne storm]

And that’s struggling? Damn

[arctic grove]

i mean

[nocturne storm]

What card you running?

[arctic grove]

im not getting 160 fps on 1440p

[radiant prism]

See this is the benefit of consoles

[arctic grove]

like u

[radiant prism]

You buy a game and you just know it’s gonna work

[arctic grove]

but I do get like 70-100 fps on high-ultra

[radiant prism]

Only game I’ve ever had lag my console was Just Cause 3 lol

I wanna get that game again

[nocturne storm]

Lol, my rig I got as a workstation that I game on in my off time, benefit being that it destroys games at 1440p XD

[arctic grove]

me?

[nocturne storm]

Ye

[arctic grove]

3060ti

[nocturne storm]

How’s your gpu utilization in game,? On my old system which was a 3080 paired with a 10700f I was only getting 80%

[fervent rose]

@arctic grove have you ever ran all low? itll be way more fps

and the difference is minimal imo

the graphics difference

[arctic grove]

its not minimal

hell no

game must look good

[nocturne storm]

Lol

[radiant prism]

Lmao

[fervent rose]

well smoothness is part of looking good

[arctic grove]

dont care unless its below 60 fps

which doesnt happen

[acoustic seal]

this game runs horribly on all hardware and settings so you may as well throw the eye candy on

[fervent rose]

if it isnt smooth i dont like

[radiant prism]

I swear all PC players are masochists

[jovial jay]

Yes

If it drop by 1fps, we go mald

[arctic grove]

screw you I played insurgency on my ps4 in 30 fps for like 3 months

[nocturne storm]

Problem is you need to find the middle ground in FPS games, you have to be able to ID targets quickly so game can’t be looking like horse shit

[jovial jay]

But how is the motion?

[fervent rose]

30 fps in mp

[jovial jay]

Is it still playable even in 30fps

[arctic grove]

its playable

[radiant prism]

I also don’t know what vfc is on about, I’ve got two different systems that can run the game just fine

[arctic grove]

but not very pleasant

[jovial jay]

Because in 2042 30fps mean you do everything at a super slow pace

[mental cave]

i get the same pretty much with a 12700k and a 3080 rog strix

[jovial jay]

It sucks so bad

[mental cave]

max settings

[arctic grove]

I ended up figuring out the reason why it lagged my ps4 was cause the online stats were counting in the background or something like that, but same. Might get it on pc though cause mods

I forgor what my gpu is at usually

i'll check

[mental cave]

just use geforce now overlay

alt+R

[nocturne storm]

Yea that weird , my 4090 gets 97% utility in game with 13900k

[mental cave]

wtf

4k or 1440p?

[arctic grove]

alright in lobby rn

gpu at 97

load

[mental cave]

what about your cpu

[arctic grove]

mm

in lobby its at 45

[mental cave]

nice

[arctic grove]

but thats lobby

[mental cave]

probably 60 in game

[arctic grove]

i doubt that

i think its around 90

but i'll check

[mental cave]

did you ever have a 12th gen?

and do you do art or programming?

[arctic grove]

65 in game actually

not bad

[next onyx]

My 3080 sits at 90 to 95% in game.

[nocturne storm]

I never had a 12th gen no, and I do a lot of rendering for interior design

[mental cave]

nice

its fast?

i dont wanna upgrade my 12700k since i feel like it’s not gonna be much of a difference but i do want a 4090

[arctic grove]

will it bottleneck tho

[mental cave]

i doubt it

actually i probably would need to anyways if i want a 4090 lmao

whole new mobo most likely too

[nocturne storm]

So far my gpu usage on everything I’ve tested has been good at about 97%, and yes it’s an insane combo tho I can’t speak on the 12th gen as I’ve never owned one

[mental cave]

what power supply you got for it?

[nocturne storm]

So it’s funny

[mental cave]

man is about to tell me he has 650w

[nocturne storm]

Because when I got the machine it had a 1000w AGT PSU

And it just didn’t work out to well

Every time I put a certain amount of load on the machine it would crash and restart itself

Without fail

So a week later and after a shit ton of trouble shooting ended up getting a different brand 1300w PSU and it fixed the issue, and I’m not sure if the wattage of the original PSU wasn’t enough or if it was faulty

Because during this process I added a 850w PSU while testing and the machine didn’t even turn on lmfao

[mental cave]

thats a lot of power

[nocturne storm]

Yeah

[mental cave]

my house too old to be doing that to it

[solid imp]

I feel that- I just had a new circuit installed because we shimmied around office and desk spaces

Otherwise it's a hot mess of shared circuits between floors and who knows what else is on your outlet sucking up those sweet amps

[mental cave]

yeah ive had my power go out a couple times

[nocturne storm]

Still think it’s funny that it takes a gigachad system to run this game at 144 and above fps at ultra settings across all game modes

[mental cave]

and the biggest load is usually cloud textures

[arctic grove]

what

[mental cave]

which you barely ever look at

[arctic grove]

is this real

[solid imp]

That said, I'm pretty okay with playing at 70-90 fps at ultra/high settings on my 3070ti

[arctic grove]

and on breakaway it even goes up to 110

for whatever reason

[nocturne storm]

My old system was bottlenecked so it didn’t matter what settings or dlss I used I was stuck at 110-130

[mental cave]

i get way over 140fps now on 2042. with my 3080

and ultra/high

[arctic grove]

1440p?

[mental cave]

yessir

[topaz field]

i finally tried 100% aim assist on ps4 now i see why i was getting ran through when they released update 3.1.2 lol

[solid imp]

What else did you tweak to get those 140fps at 1440? 3070ti is an inch from being a 3080 so I'm curious

[mental cave]

took awhile but i figured out a good tune for my gpu

[mental cave]

messing around with afterburner

[solid imp]

ahh gotcha

[arctic grove]

messing with what exactly

[mental cave]

voltage

the card is already overclocked

[nocturne storm]

Ok what game mode do you get those frame rates on?

[mental cave]

BT

conquest i get less

[nocturne storm]

Interesting, you have a 12th gen sup right?

Cpu

[mental cave]

yea

[nocturne storm]

Yea that’s probably why,

[mental cave]

also overclocked

[nocturne storm]

My 10700F shat itself while playing this game and was at 96% usage

I remember that I had to up the power limit from65w to 120w on it just so it could reach the 4.6 speed

Else it would be stuck at 4.1

[solid imp]

3070ti @ 1440p and 11700K all stock configs, game in ultra/high settings, running straight into a dense firefight with vehicles, explosions, ADS thermals stays pretty steady ~80

(clouds in view 😉 )

I want that 140fps but I don't mess around with afterburner much anymore

[nocturne storm]

You rock dlss at all?

[solid imp]

set to balanced I think?

ok it's easier to just do this lol

[nocturne storm]

Yea, it just sucks because legit dlss would do nothing for me on my 3080system because of how bottlenecked it was, although I think something was also fucking up because other games my gpu usage was also starting to get inconsistent

you guys use any NVIDIA vibrance filters while playing?

[solid imp]

I do not

[nocturne storm]

Oof ok you should add the color filter and put color and temperature to 0 and then turn vibrance up a little, looks much better

You can even add the sharpen filter aswell and leave it stock

[chilly jacinth]

doesn't that reduce fps

[arctic grove]

why ray tracing

its really not that different from hbao

but eats up so much fps

[solid imp]

I could almost certainly turn if off but until today haven't looked at that menu in ages lol

I go in for and actually just finished T1 the p90 and AKS... Crying tears of joy

[last anvil]

https://youtube.com/shorts/VvHOzamW2bA?si=EnSIkaIECMiOmarE

[chilly jacinth]

nice self promotion

[acoustic seal]

fastest console gameplay

[spiral folio]

Sentenced to murder

[hexed mango]

me everyday

[lone void]

Just noticed what I think is a stealth change, a line in Crawford's player card image used to say "he was supposed to protect Her Majesty's realm" but now reads "His Majesty's realm", for obvious reasons. Which I think is neat, as a Bri'ish "person".

[drowsy shuttle]

so fast i smell chronus

[acoustic seal]

"there's no cheaters on console" mfs when i remind them cronus zen is constantly sold out

[errant scarab]

I really loved the menu that was at the beginning where it was divided into 3 sections

[eager spire]

Cronus wouldn't even be that big of a deal if KBM support was on consoles natively

[deep bloom]

Depends if the recoil is the same for controller and mnk then yes otherwise no, it would still be a problem

[mental cave]

why “person”

[eager spire]

well it's not

[mental cave]

chronus is straight up cheating

but if you also deliberately give your controller stick drift it’s basically the same thing

[acoustic seal]

honestly i wouldn't even mind it if it didn't have script/macro support

cuz you know there are some sad souls out there macroing vertical recoil and aim assist actions

[drowsy shuttle]

patch is tomorrow, no?

[fervent rose]

ye

[drowsy shuttle]

ty

[fervent rose]

like ~12 hours from now

4am est is the normal time

[lilac dust]

Woohoo! Got AK74U tier 1 quicker than any tier 1 I've ever gotten thanks to SMG Rush mode! 👌

[plain needle]

I wish you could put skins on vault weapons 😞

[lilac dust]

I heard a rumour that they're revamping vault weapons with 2042 attachments after season 4. Hope it's true 🤞

[plain needle]

I need to know where you heard that compadre

[lilac dust]

It may have been talked about in today's battlefield podcast. I'll have a look and get back to ya, unless you hear it first lol

[plain needle]

Oh shit I forgot abt the podcast, where can I listen to it?

[lilac dust]

https://twitter.com/Battlefield/status/1625122217624317954

[lucid goblet]

https://open.spotify.com/episode/6cODcBQFmkVZqGr3kHNZ4b?si=9N4i8yPDTUiAFOo8AivFpg

[plain needle]

Thank you!!

[lilac dust]

Ahhh I remember now. It was a thumbnail from Ghostgaming saying vault weapon attachments are coming. He mentioned in the vid that I just now watched that the podcast mentioned vault weapon skins and attachments are in the pipeline! 🥳 🥳

[plain needle]

Awesome, thank you!

[lilac dust]

No problem! This news has now just given me the motivation to start using more vault weapons to tier 1 them so they're ready for the eventual tier 1 skins 👌

[dapper river]

did anybody reup the podcast to youtube or something?

[fervent rose]

its on google podcast

[dapper river]

yeah I just saw lol

Don't have spotify, don't have apple music, never will

[lilac dust]

There's a dude who posts them to youtube. Haven't checked if he did today's one yet

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9QwJkAtUWZQ

He's got the first 3 episodes

But not today's yet

@dapper river

[dapper river]

Nah google podcasts works well enough, thanks though

[plain needle]

Listening to the podcast rn, personally I disagree that the pbx is “performing where it should”

Could just be me but it feels a bit lackluster compared to some other smg picks

[still vault]

In case anyone still need podcast links: https://www.ea.com/games/battlefield/battlefield-2042/community/inside-battlefield-podcast

[low timber]

Finally, T1 Crawford.
And with it all of the specialists are in T1.

[eager spire]

wait, they were talking about SMG's?

What did they say?

[plain needle]

They basically were talking about what weapons they felt “performed where and how they should” and briefly brought up the pbx

[eager spire]

What other weapons did they mention.

[plain needle]

The avanceys, ac42, m5

[eager spire]

THE AVANCYS?

[plain needle]

Mhm

[eager spire]

THE AC42?

[plain needle]

Mhm

[eager spire]

Bruh what the fuck?

[plain needle]

LMAO

[eager spire]

The AC42 on console is a fucking menace due to the reduced recoil

[plain needle]

the weapon dev mentioned that it is his fav pick

[eager spire]

Also just in general because of that firerate buff that it didn't need.

[plain needle]

I thought it got a fire rate nerf ?

[eager spire]

No it got buffed

[acoustic seal]

pbx is adequate but only because it's not mp9 tier overnerfed

by process of elimination it's the only playable smg other than the pp29

[eager spire]

honestly i wish people would transcribe these podcasts

[plain needle]

Yea that makes sense

[eager spire]

because i don't care to listen to 'em myself

[plain needle]

I’m just playing animal crossing and listening too it

[edgy oriole]

are they on spotify?

[plain needle]

Bro called the avanceys “the problem child” just now

Yes

[edgy oriole]

il listen at work then

[eager spire]

IS IT PERFORMING HOW IT SHOULD OR NOT

[plain needle]

What do you think?

[eager spire]

I don't know but apparently DICE doesn't know either!

[plain needle]

If they call it a fucking problem child what do you think

[hybrid totem]

It's a gun that shoots bullets, right? So it's performing as expected

[plain needle]

I’d prefer if the chamber exploded

And instakills you

They’re talking about vault weapons now at 23:00

[wide shore]

they think LMGs need a downside since they’re too versatile. But they don’t want to do what they did with MMGs in BFV and purposely make them hard to use.

Vault weapons were hastily added due to very growing concerns of there being limited guns and the overwhelming feedback players had of porting them over. They also said they want to get to a point where they feel they have enough portal weapons that they can stop the work on adding them, and start working on making them more useable/Camos/2042 attachments. Despite this, improvements to vault weapons feeling wise are coming.

They’re very excited about being able to add 4 new weapons in season 4.

2 new vault guns for season 4 as well.

They realized the nerf to drum mags was not well received but they want to visit it in another way as soon as possible as they feel player overall time in combat is too long.

They said there’s some guns they didn’t think should be as used as much as they are looking at the stats, but they are. But they wouldn’t tell which.

Alex said there’s a gun people don’t use but it’s really damn good. But wouldn’t explain which since it would become meta.

Sorry, long post

[plain needle]

You did that perfectly

[wide shore]

That’s kinda the cliff notes

[plain needle]

Great job

[wide shore]

Ty

[plain needle]

We love cliff notes

[eager spire]

"They realized the nerf to drum mags was not well received but they want to visit it in another way as soon as possible as they feel player overall time in combat is too long." I don't understand why they're so concerned about this. There are modes in this game that have effectively doubled the player count, and therefore, the amount of possible engagements a player could get into. I feel like giving people an extra 10-15 rounds in a mag is not that big of a deal considering the circumstances.

[wide shore]

I feel the same way

[plain needle]

I agree

[wide shore]

But they’re pretty adamant about it

[eager spire]

Well they should stop.

Because it's not gonna ever be a good idea.

[plain needle]

Do you have a suggestion then?

[eager spire]

It's fine, focus on something else.

that's my suggestion. Leave it alone.

[wide shore]

On one hand. I understand not wanting a clear meta. But at the same time, they explained they cannot avoid a meta and that it’s impossible on this very podcast.

Balance, ya know

[gloomy otter]

i just checked starboard and saw quite a number of moderators thirsting for balls

[eager spire]

So they know that it's impossible. So why are they trying?

[elder meteor]

nah they need some adjustment for sure...

[gloomy otter]

._.

[eager spire]

No they don't.

They're fine.

[wide shore]

I guess there’s a line that’s hard to draw

Idk

Personally I never felt like drum mags were ever really annoying. I don’t feel I get unfairly shot at more than I did in previous BF games.

[eager spire]

The infantry gameplay, for the most part, is fine right about now. The only issues are to do with the new tripping animations as far as i can tell.

[elder meteor]

I mean they could just remove drum mags 🙂

[nocturne storm]

Yea bare minimum vault weapons need 2042 camps/progression as well as 2042 attachments

[eager spire]

They could but why would they.

[nocturne storm]

Else it’s just a lazy as fuck port

[plain needle]

Tripping animations?

[gloomy otter]

can a pp19 bizon's default mag be considered as a drum mag

[eager spire]

How would that be beneficial.

[elder meteor]

Removes the awkward overlap with LMG'S

[gloomy otter]

and them damn juicy red T1 and blue skins

[eager spire]

There are animations for falling a certain distance and these animations prevent you from shooting immediately after falling. I've also seen people complain about tripping animations triggering while sprinting.

[nocturne storm]

100%

[wide shore]

Well they basically admitted that they were on todays podcast. “We could add them quickly, or we could take our time and make sure they get the same support as 2042 weapons. But player feedback was overwhelming so we went for the former” is a bit paraphrased but basically what they said today

[plain needle]

Interesting

[eager spire]

There is no overlap. LMG's have over 100 rounds in a mag, none of the AR's with drum mags even get close.

Drum mags are not the problem here.

[nocturne storm]

Are they planning on updating the vault gun in the future though?

[wide shore]

I don’t even think there really is a problem.

[plain needle]

Yea

[nocturne storm]

That’s great to hear

[wide shore]

But I don’t stare at the telemetry data every day

[eager spire]

I don't think telemetry data alone should be used to inform decisions.

and that just seems like what's going on.

[gloomy otter]

for me drums mags seems fine, cuz after grinding for the mags(its around <300kills for some weapons) if they have a less of a bit manageable recoil, then it will be hated

[wide shore]

I agree

[acoustic seal]

siege devs make decisions solely based on pick rates and that game is a complete disaster

[eager spire]

Like, just play the game. Take input from people who play the game.

Stop looking at the fucking spreadsheets.

[plain needle]

They plan on bringing them more in line with aow weapons

[dapper river]

Tell that to the Apex devs

[wide shore]

Let’s hope they really do this time.

[gloomy otter]

bro 💀

[eager spire]

I WOULD but i'm lazy.

and i don't really feel as strongly about Apex balance, i don't really know much about that.

[dapper river]

Data-driven game development

[plain needle]

😦

[gloomy otter]

Apex has a system of upgrading armor after smoking some colored radioactive shit from jar cans, and that's enough lesson for a newbie trying that game for first time

[wide shore]

I think the data is important. But I think if the players aren’t really complaining about the drum mags I don’t really see a reason why they’d need to be changed. Or even that it’s such a thing they’re so passionate about changing. Seems more like “this is how WE want the game to be played” and less “this is how you guys want it.”

[gloomy otter]

When is the AN94 being added to AOW

[plain needle]

🤷‍♂️

[wide shore]

[gloomy otter]

bro.......

[wide shore]

This has been my username for months

I know Alex has seen it

[gloomy otter]

A battlefield game without some funny bugs and all time meta aek971 and an94 makes it feel empty

[plain needle]

Big laff

[eager spire]

Data is important but it shouldn't be the only factor in determining what gets changed and what doesn't.

[elder meteor]

Its more that dice designed multiple magazines, yet the player base only use one 90% of the time.

[eager spire]

and that just seems like the case

[wide shore]

Then why did they put them in in the first place

[eager spire]

They use more than one because of the plus system

[elder meteor]

Yeah to abuse a goofy ammo system,

[eager spire]

Any decent player worth their salt would run Drum Mags/Extended Mags in the plus system.

[wide shore]

How could anyone expect players to not pick the magazine with the most bullets in it

[gloomy otter]

ngl the plus system seemed controversial at first but its probably one of the best features of 2042

[eager spire]

That's how they designed it

[plain needle]

Standard mag ftw

[eager spire]

They made it like this and then left it like this for over a year

And nobody had any problems with it

[elder meteor]

It's more absence of design...

[acoustic seal]

shit design is unfortunately still design

like the wide open layouts of the maps that necessitate having as many bullets ready as possible

[wide shore]

I mean shit call of duty has like 50 attachments for each gun and yet the community just find what’s meta for each gun and never changes it

I don’t think it matters. Players will always find what works best.

Drum mags are a no brainer

More ammo, very little downside. Nerf them, remove them. Players will just use extended mags.

But again. Why even do it at all.

[fiery shoal]

what.. map size has nothing to do with mag size..

if anything large maps would mean the opposite

64 players in a large map means you have less people to run into vs 64 players on a small map

[wide shore]

I’m usually on board with a lot of nerfs and stuff. I’ve seen when this community really despises something. Before DICE decided on this crusade against drum mags, I havent really seen people talk against them.

[fiery shoal]

mag count comes down to player count and pacing

[acoustic seal]

good news, those are both terrible too

[fiery shoal]

cool? if youre goal is "2042 sucks" then have at it, but dont attribute X thing with Y when they have almost nothing to do with each other

[acoustic seal]

i'm thinking about maps like manifest where there are a million different angles to clean between the tops of every crate stack and the corner of every crate

you need 50 bullets minimum

[elder meteor]

not if you shoot from cover... ?

[fiery shoal]

a bit of a simplification..

[wide shore]

Huh?

[arctic grove]

just make the reload time longer, it's not a difficult fix

[fiery shoal]

they are longer..

[edgy oriole]

drum mags are poopoo

[eager spire]

they already do that

[edgy oriole]

last thing ill use

unless its 12m

[arctic grove]

then make them longer

[fiery shoal]

afaik most drum mags take almost twice as long to reload

granted we are talking about 1 second to 2 seconds which is like.. not a big deal

[arctic grove]

increase a players time away from combat significantly enough that it might matter

[eager spire]

Why?

[arctic grove]

mckay running the drum on k30, 2.5 seconds from 2 seconds is a significant amount of time

[elder meteor]

Gives you longer opening to push them...

[fiery shoal]

risk/reward for balance sake

[eager spire]

need i remind you that this is not a balance concern. This is a concern born purely from DICE looking at the data and noticing that people generally use the drum and extended mags.

and deciding that they didn't like that.

[fiery shoal]

because drum mag is easily the best option for mags?

[elder meteor]

Yeah because it indicates poor balance.

[arctic grove]

I'm just proposing it in terms of how to make all ammo/mag types viable.

Using the sfar is just a pain without the drum mag, so I use the standard issue ammo and it is still a 2-3 shot kill.

[fiery shoal]

i dont think its some dev arbitrarily not liking something....

this is 100% a balance concern.. what

[fervent rose]

its almost like it was completely predictable that somebody would prefer a 40 round drum on scar over 20 round regular mag

[eager spire]

yes it is because a dev was quoted as saying the change was being made because nobody used the standard mags. Nobody had any complaints about it prior to this.

[fervent rose]

wild stuff

[fiery shoal]

especially when the downside is VERY marginal

[elder meteor]

yepp.

[acoustic seal]

there wasn't a concern until he looked at the spreadsheet and saw drum mag usage was high, which is very strange considering it wasn't complained about before

[fiery shoal]

because extended mags are the best mags in the game... which is a balance concern... hence the change...

[eager spire]

But nobody had a problem with it or felt it was unbalanced, considering the fact that player count in some modes is doubled in this game.

Which doubles the potential amount of gunfights that happen.

[fiery shoal]

because getting extended mags is easy in this game and just the obvious choice?

[plain needle]

4 new weapons + two vault weapons at start of s4 + another two vault weapons ? Pog?

[fervent rose]

I am fine with them intelligently nerfing extended mags and drums, as long as LMGs are also "balanced" because I see no reason to be worried about a +10 extended mag when the Avancys exists

[fiery shoal]

lmgs have slower ads already though?

[arctic grove]

I’m not complaining if it’s memorable or underrated old guns

[plain needle]

Same

[acoustic seal]

is it the obvious choice because there aren't enough downsides or because the downsides are acceptable when facing down 64 enemy players?

[elder meteor]

This might be an argument for increasing the max ammo a player can carry.

[eager spire]

DICE thinks LMG's are "too versatile".

[plain needle]

They’re not though

[eager spire]

it's almost like that's Assault's class trait or something.

[fervent rose]

the lmg penalties are not enough

[fiery shoal]

ehhhh, id argue they are too versatile as well, the ADS time is not really a concern

[plain needle]

I want a 240 recoil buff so bad

[fervent rose]

they are 200 round ARs

[fiery shoal]

exactly

[fiery shoal]

why cant it be both?

[arctic grove]

the avancys is straight up an assault rifle.

[eager spire]

Also, i feel the need to mention that drum mags also have less reserve ammo than other mag types. You're gonna run out of ammo with them faster than you would with another mag type. Which is why people switch to other mag types using the PLUS SYSTEM.

[plain needle]

Assault rifle lmg hybrid “achtually”

[elder meteor]

Because its the selfish class.

[fiery shoal]

i never thought id see the day that someone argues against balance when one thing is clearly the best in slot...

[eager spire]

That's how DICE designed it.

[elder meteor]

Nice, so if they mag changes were here to stay I could just say the same thing back to you ?

[eager spire]

The mag changes are already being reverted.

[plain needle]

Imagine crying over an extra 200ms

[elder meteor]

Yeah because people cried, and the implementation was jank.

[fervent rose]

imagine thinking 200ms is a small amount in a multiplayer shooter as fast as battlefield

[fiery shoal]

200ms is slightly longer than the average blink of an eye...

[arctic grove]

all I want is a 32v32 rush

[fervent rose]

the regular ADS isn't even fast

[arctic grove]

I don't feel like it's that hard

[acoustic seal]

making ADS time higher than TTK fundamentally changes your game to be a slow, boring hard ADS game, and people still used the drum mags anyway because having the bullets was more important

[fervent rose]

you guys are on crack if you want it even slower

[fiery shoal]

having one weapon type slower doesnt make the whole game slower...

[arctic grove]

As do i, but it would be a legitimately viable gamemode to content with breakthrough. All other modes just feel slow compared to breakthrough, which is a bit frustrating.

[fiery shoal]

not only that but its arguable the idea behind lmgs is to hold down one area, which would mean already being in ADS

[arctic grove]

Chaos breakthrough on spearhead was a work of art but if you got slightly off kilter you were dying within 5 seconds of spawn.

[fiery shoal]

not saying it was the right change, but its not unreasonable either

[fervent rose]

yea its almost like LMGs need nerfs in other regards besides fire delays and ADS penalty

[fiery shoal]

i dont see whats so wrong with those penalties either..

[fervent rose]

They are fine. The guns are too accurate when holding down the trigger for 200bullets

[arctic grove]

I think a nice fix is what's standard with LMGs in csgo

[fervent rose]

you dont need a bipod at all to beam with an lmg

[arctic grove]

Longer you hold it more accurate it gets

[fiery shoal]

do you want a spread reduction mechanic the longer you shoot?

[elder meteor]

Yeah belt penalty seems good.

[fervent rose]

no? i want more spread for lmgs

[fiery shoal]

across the board? that sounds annoying to me

[fervent rose]

unless bipoded I guess

LMGs are not balanced my man

[arctic grove]

This would technically allow for LMG's to be more in line with cover fire that they support.

[fiery shoal]

nothing i just said suggested i thought otherwise..

i just dont like the idea of making them inaccurate across the board...

[fervent rose]

more spread is annoying to you, drum ads nerf is annoying to me

I understand that drums should be nerfed / balanced, the way they did it was awful

[fiery shoal]

yea, thats fair.. but i didnt suggest you thought they were balanced because of that preference...

disagreeing with the change you want doesnt mean i think lmgs are balanced...

[fervent rose]

well its irrelevant if you think they are balanced

because they arent

[fiery shoal]

youre missing the point but whatever

[fervent rose]

nah I think having that drum change come out before LMGs were nerfed was really bad for the meta of the game

[fiery shoal]

[elder meteor]

By that logic Dice should drop all tools and get to work nerfing the glock 😄

[fervent rose]

if they want the pistols balanced, yea

[eager spire]

honestly if they wanna balance the pistols, just speed up that hammer cocking animation on the M44

[fervent rose]

nerfing the glock isnt even hard, give it a small hipfire nerf

or buff the other guns

[fiery shoal]

to nerf 1 gun or buff the other 5...

[fervent rose]

Yea, one's clearly easier, no shit

[arctic grove]

Glock can legitimately be ran as a main in CQB

I do it sometimes when I'm running a sniper

[fiery shoal]

ive mained the g57 and pf51, g57 perfs better obviously but its not dramatically better

[fervent rose]

yea but were those from launch pf51

[fiery shoal]

iirc not exactly, but i cant pinpoint when i was maining it either

[drowsy wing]

Does anyone know how to unlock a kind of satellite dish that makes soldiers deploy? It's not the one from the specialist, why can't I find it and it only lasts a few minutes, how do I get it?

[elder meteor]

Its recon gadget now

[fervent rose]

thats on the Ram vehicle

[hybrid totem]

That's the RAM special

The difference is that the whole team can spawn in it, not just the squad

[weary slate]

how i can unlock gol magnum?

[drowsy wing]

what is ram special?

[fervent rose]

its only on the ram, that deploy beacon

[calm bison]

There are requirements on the top right of the screen if you select the gun

[wide shore]

You can also do the requirements in a bot game if you wish to make it easy on yourself

[weary slate]

yes but im not sure where i can find soflam

[kindred flint]

lmao there is only 1 portal smg rush server right now..

and the defense team is getting fucking rolled

[calm bison]

soflam belongs to recon

check your gadgets

[weary slate]

im lvl 42 and not have itthere...

[calm bison]

yeah thats unfortunate

[arctic grove]

I think soflam unlocks at level 52

[karmic egret]

I WANT TO KISS THE DEVELOPERS

[arctic grove]

Which is so late to unlock it

Have it unlock at like 20

[karmic egret]

the progression is so scuffed

[arctic grove]

It made sense at launch since you didn’t want everyone to be able to laze too quickly (assuming that’s why it’s set so high) but eh now it does seem a bit high

[karmic egret]

dice fix pls :c

reeeeeeeeeeeeee

[karmic egret]

it did make sense back then but now the progression should be lowered to help new players into the game

[desert torrent]

Howdy

[karmic egret]

Hi :)

[desert torrent]

How bout those changes eh!

Now if only I could find a ps5 clan

[karmic egret]

the drum mag change is nice

the rest are nice bug fixes

[arctic grove]

Yea

[next onyx]

Nice tune up.

[arctic grove]

Well I suppose you could theoretically suggest it to devs

[next onyx]

And then I think in two weeks season 4?

[karmic egret]

yeah but they probably get flooded with so many requests they probably dont have time to check

[arctic grove]

True

[karmic egret]

like being a game dev on this scale is hard

because you have to impress executives upper management and shareholders

and the player base

My main request is just a global chat

[arctic grove]

my request is just bring back gunship

[karmic egret]

my life will be complete if I can say gg to the other team

[desert torrent]

Who farted

[arctic grove]

and my life will be quarterly complete if it returns

[karmic egret]

DICE pls :c

im not going to say it would be easy

[desert torrent]

Are any of you in 2042 clans, just askin

I don’t hear about them too much

[karmic egret]

because i have no idea how coding works let alone frostbite

dice has stated "legacy features" will return in season 4

[fervent rose]

that is one of the ones that you can point to that is actually easy.

[karmic egret]

so hopefully that will include platoons

[karmic egret]

can you code?

[fervent rose]

Oh I just mean they borked it from the start, maybe its costly now

[karmic egret]

yea lmoa

[fervent rose]

Easy to do, but they fumbled the ball

[karmic egret]

well half of the developement time was getting the game engine to run

frostbite can be a C word to work with

[fervent rose]

i think its like the server browser, intentionally dropped

sadly

[karmic egret]

I dont know why tho?

like they already censor chat

[arctic grove]

Cuts down on how much they would need to check reports for instances of toxicity

[main kestrel]

did not know they existed.

[fervent rose]

or they could just ya know, actually moderate it as they are a billion dollar company

[arctic grove]

They could, yea

[karmic egret]

or straight up ban if you drop a n bomb

[arctic grove]

too busy making micro transactions

[main kestrel]

I just got an EA app notification

anyone else got this>?

[arctic grove]

It’s just that if they can reduce how much they need to monitor online behavior they will and have

[main kestrel]

Is origin app obsolete now?

[karmic egret]

a global chat will most likely be full of hackusations

or people being angry for vehicles camping in spawn

[main kestrel]

only PC players would be chatting though

[karmic egret]

i mean a global chat would be great for portal servers

[arctic grove]

The function does exist but it’s only for server owners

[karmic egret]

but dice probably has their hands full on the squad management

and also the next game is in pre production

[lilac dust]

Can AI please chill TF out with grenade spam..... Like this shit is worse than operation locker nade spam

[arctic grove]

I found my first case earlier of frags explosion damage going through walls

[lilac dust]

I was on the top floor of a building and a frag grenade killed me from below even tho I was nowhere near any ladder or hole in the floor

[arctic grove]

[hidden stump]

Is it me or is Breakaway still terrible, after the redo?

[arctic grove]

It’s you

[lilac dust]

I fucking ADORE the new breakaway

[hexed mango]

it’s you for sure

[karmic egret]

the AI is evolving

[hidden stump]

I like the top half of the map, but the rig is still bad for me

I love the ice.

[radiant prism]

I still love how much you get tbagged just playing dozer

[hexed mango]

rig is and always has been fun imo

[lilac dust]

Yeah rig has always been fun

[hidden stump]

To me it's not. You go there you die. You spawn on the ground go up a rope again to die

[karmic egret]

Have you tried not dying?

[next onyx]

Dozer might present a greater niche due to claymores.

[lilac dust]

Ooooh didn't even occur to me that dozer shield would probably block claymore damage

[arctic grove]

I wished bf3 bots can do that

they rarely chuck them

[lilac dust]

I dunno man. If you run into large groups of AI the nade spam is fucking absurd lol

[arctic grove]

well now I want one

they're so basic as shit

[lilac dust]

It's so silly tho because it makes me want to see a group of real players instead of AI because it would be less obnoxious to fight them 🤣

[arctic grove]

even 2042 needs serious improvements

[karmic egret]

are we allowed to @ devs

[arctic grove]

Only when they’re present in chat

[karmic egret]

ok

:c

[arctic grove]

Alex has been checking on us lately but he works on weapons and stuff

[karmic egret]

i would like to ask about weapons

who is in charge of ui

[quaint vector]

Let's Gooooo

[karmic egret]

lucky

[low timber]

S466

[mental cave]

he definitely plays the game

[lilac dust]

My guesses are Florian and Totalfps

[arctic grove]

now persuade them to bring back gunship

[arctic grove]

breakthrough on breakaway is an absolute nightmare.

[quaint vector]

Wrong

[arctic grove]

they should make a gun game rush

[lilac dust]

I'm a conquest main but breakaway is my all time favourite map to play on breakthrough

[arctic grove]

rush and obliteration for me

they're better

[mental delta]

MTAR-21 is pretty good

[mental delta]

But recoil still feels horrible on most Portal guns

[lilac dust]

[karmic egret]

Is it the CEO

[edgy oriole]

sam and alex

[radiant prism]

Man I love dozer

So much I’ve resumed my title as dozer main