battlefield-2042

[rocky kraken]

please

[next gulch]

YES

[scenic badger]

Zain is ehhh, he can be really good. def good for throwing knives

[twin fulcrum]

YEAH

[next gulch]

and more camera shake in vehicles

[rocky kraken]

its really bad

[twin fulcrum]

I mean..

[rocky kraken]

and physics upgrade

[solar obsidian]

mw2

[twin fulcrum]

Battlefield is much of realism.

That would be sick.

[next gulch]

running over a pebble in a tank, not enough camera shake.......shame DICE

[twin fulcrum]

But not for Battlefield.

Battlefield 2042, doesn't give me the (2042) feel.

[solar obsidian]

what monitor are you using ?

[twin fulcrum]

I play on ps5..dont bully me.

[upbeat sand]

What's your TV

[solar obsidian]

im asking for the screen lol

[next gulch]

in 2042, vehicles are less advanced somehow

[twin fulcrum]

Like some random 4K tv my dad bought lol.

[rocky kraken]

also

lmG running animation

[upbeat sand]

ShiTV

[rocky kraken]

is way to jiggly

[twin fulcrum]

LOL

[solar obsidian]

hot take,

players target high framerates, because there monitor have terrible response times at 60hz

[eager spire]

that’s not a hot take that’s just true.

[next gulch]

LOL 60hz bunch of noobs, more like 30hz

[solar obsidian]

im very happy you agree

[rocky kraken]

also

by the way

if we make

[upbeat sand]

128 breakaway rn gives me better fps than Spearhead

[rocky kraken]

a reddit post

and get thousnads up upvotes

for s6-8

we win

[eager spire]

PUT YOUR THOUGHTS IN A SINGLE FUCKING POST

GOD.

[arctic grove]

I would actually much rather

Do this

I don’t know why, but I genuinely do that

wtf

OH NO DID THEY MUTE ZEX

[eager spire]

Yes

Lmao

[rocky kraken]

welp

for what

[arctic grove]

BROOOOO

[upbeat sand]

I can't play

[rocky kraken]

spam?

[upbeat sand]

I can't play there are no lobbies

[eager spire]

Yeah

[upbeat sand]

Where

[next gulch]

turn on crossplay

[upbeat sand]

It's satrurday

[upbeat sand]

Ya on

[next gulch]

check again

[upbeat sand]

I just started randomly not get any lobbies at all in the last 3 days

[upbeat sand]

Hmmm

If Dice turned it off I'm gonna piss, shit and

Eat

Food

[rocky kraken]

eat boins

they are heart healthy

[upbeat sand]

I've wanted to buy Bins at times but I never ended up

My only source of boins are the pass

[rocky kraken]

why are portal lmgs so shit

they dont move when you run

[upbeat sand]

Portal guns need a recoil rework

And ads

And muzzle velocity

[rocky kraken]

and animation

complete rework

but that wont happen

[upbeat sand]

Mf goblins in my PC shut down cross play by force

[next gulch]

Knew it

[upbeat sand]

I'm going to strangle my 6 cores and threads

[ebon pilot]

tfw no hyper-threading

[rocky kraken]

screen shake when crashing vehicles

and jumping mountains

easy change

[clever marlin]

Wait what

[solar obsidian]

i was muted

what did i miss 😄

[rocky kraken]

hi

we decided

to add

camera shake

to vehicles

[solar obsidian]

ahh

[ebon pilot]

beanie is gonna strangle his 6 cores and threads which sounds to me like no hyper-threading

[rocky kraken]

and add suppresion backl

[solar obsidian]

so more blurr for your tn screens

shall we find the monitor of shame ?

[acoustic seal]

my shitty 10 year old tn monitor is the only monitor i own that doesn't have motion issues

display technology is evolving backwards

[rocky kraken]

am i the only one that likes motion blur

[solar obsidian]

i like object motion blur, not camera

[rocky kraken]

2042 feels like shiT without it

[solar obsidian]

one can enhance animations while the latter just annoying in fps games

[willow sky]

was it ever mentioned that discarded would get a rework?

[rocky kraken]

yes

all of them

and hourgalss

[solar obsidian]

its because most of us are playing with unlocked framerates

[ebon pilot]

next season

[willow sky]

o nice

[ebon pilot]

hourglass is season 5

[rocky kraken]

discarded

rework is gonna be trash i can feel lit

gonna add containers

[solar obsidian]

and not really hitting very high minimum frames

[willow sky]

atleast theres cover in EVERY SINGLE CORNER

with

C O N T A I N E R S

S A N D B A G S

[rocky kraken]

i hope they add cool stuff to discarded

could look cool

[solar obsidian]

what screen do you have ?

[rocky kraken]

and some changes to terrain

i have

my monitor?

[solar obsidian]

the one you use for battlefield yes

[rocky kraken]

a msi

1440p

[solar obsidian]

need model name 😄

[rocky kraken]

witha very long name

erm

lemme find

there is so many

of the same name

with different numbers at the end

its crazy

[solar obsidian]

just give me what yours are called

[rocky kraken]

cant i check in setetingts

settings

[solar obsidian]

i can sort the last couple of serial numbers

[rocky kraken]

i dont knoiw the name

[solar obsidian]

back of monitor

[rocky kraken]

all in chinese

well

[solar obsidian]

uhh

[rocky kraken]

i think its this

Optix MAG274QRF-QD)

[solar obsidian]

https://www.rtings.com/monitor/reviews/msi/optix-mag274qrf-qd

it actually does backlight strobing alright, it just need the 120fps sadly

[rocky kraken]

i tought its 165

[solar obsidian]

this is 165hz

[rocky kraken]

oh

120 fps for what

i didnt even knew it lit up

[solar obsidian]

but the MINIMUM refresh rate backlight strobing works with is 120hz

max is 165hz

[rocky kraken]

waweit

[solar obsidian]

its nothing about external light 😄

[rocky kraken]

so

oh

okay

i dont even know how to change the lighting

[solar obsidian]

😄

[rocky kraken]

zexten

would u say 2042 graphics are good

[lean spire]

How do yyou get multi kills with a tactical weapon or an SMG?

[solar obsidian]

4 fast

[rocky kraken]

kill people

[solar obsidian]

yes, i would say they look good,

[rocky kraken]

what about the ground

every time im prone

i see 240p

why is that

[solar obsidian]

do you have texture filtering on low ?

[rocky kraken]

especially spearhead

the mud look flat and dull

medium

but even when i turn to ultra

it changes nothing

[solar obsidian]

set texture filtering to ultra

[upbeat sand]

My friend plays on ultra and he has gotten kills from the ultra shadows

Pay to win graphics

[rocky kraken]

2042 should add enlisted snow physics

[solar obsidian]

texture filtering should always be maxed in any game

[upbeat sand]

What does texture filtering do

[solar obsidian]

it makes every surface sharper to look at from a angle/distance

[rocky kraken]

do you guys think graphics will be similar to 2042 in the next game

[errant scarab]

2042 budget is 2B

[rocky kraken]

what

[ebon pilot]

2 boins

[errant scarab]

i cant believe

[solar obsidian]

are you running the game over 60fps most of the time ?

[upbeat sand]

Mmmmm boins

homer

[rocky kraken]

yeah

i have a 3080

around 130

[solar obsidian]

what cpu

[errant scarab]

the budget to make bf2042 was $2B

[rocky kraken]

i7

sadly

[solar obsidian]

yeye, im only interested in the minimum frames here 😄

[upbeat sand]

I have even worst

[rocky kraken]

i9 would be great

but ya know

they kinda

[solar obsidian]

i7-i9 it depends on generation, need whole model number

[rocky kraken]

11700

[solar obsidian]

anyways back to point

@rocky krakenclose game, set whole desktop to 60hz, open game and put game in 60hz also

take a look and see how stable stuff looks in motion now

if you can do 75hz, do that

[rocky kraken]

okay

[twin fulcrum]

The budget 2B?

No way.

That's a cap.

[rocky kraken]

morie like

2 million

200k

2 dollars

[arctic grove]

Suspected to be around there. I personally have no source for anything, so I can’t really make any comments outside speculation

[rocky kraken]

if that is

were doomed

cant imagine where that money went

[solar obsidian]

wilsons pockets

[rocky kraken]

you cant aim down sights with teh new 1942 weapon now

wtf dice

why di dthey change that

[arctic grove]

Thats odd

[rocky kraken]

i have to aim out of sights

how to i calibrate my monitor colors without the device

[solar obsidian]

look under controls in that review

[rocky kraken]

do i want high contrast

and sharpness

[last niche]

hi

[arctic grove]

Hey

[rocky kraken]

i just turned on image enhancment

and it looks like a different game

[last niche]

wake up

[arctic grove]

Right here 🙂

Unless you meant what’s up

[last niche]

I woke up now

start to play games

[next onyx]

The pp2000 is going to be busted.

[rocky kraken]

why

no recoil>

?

[next onyx]

50 metres 4HK.

[rocky kraken]

what

[next onyx]

That is SCAR H range.

[rocky kraken]

why

[next onyx]

Overbuff.

It'll be a better handling SCAR.

[acoustic seal]

there is someone very silly in charge of designing weapons

[rocky kraken]

what the fuck

over buff

more like

no braincells

[next onyx]

I remember when they buffed the scar they gave it more range than they stated so maybe it was a misspelling. Here's hoping it is.

Or changed their minds in the last second.

[rocky kraken]

hope so

i wish they fixed its animations

very janky

so

temporyal said more than 3 guns this next season

thats crazy

[last niche]

I used 4.5-1.25 scope

scar

[solar obsidian]

imagine throwing less in when warzone gets 5 new

[next onyx]

Honestly.

[rocky kraken]

they should be adding like 6 per season but its whatever

i would take maps over guns tho

[next onyx]

The AKS74U should be buffed to be a little more reliable than the pp29 and 2000.

[rocky kraken]

also should i have dlss on

aks47u sucks

so bad

[solar obsidian]

dlss always quality ❤️

[rocky kraken]

does enabling imagine enhabncment on my monitor lose fps

[last niche]

i agree aks74u

[next onyx]

Give the pp2000 the same range as the pp29 and then give the aks74u a 25m 4HK range with a sizable 5hk range.

[rocky kraken]

remake aks74u reload

while they are at it

[next onyx]

Or some shit to make that mag last.

Aks reload makes me feel things I shouldn't.

[solar obsidian]

no but it would properly oversharpen your image and making it look worse in terms of going after the most natural look

[last niche]

in any range aks74u is sobad

[rocky kraken]

ak reload

made me hate the game

truly

[tough wolf]

THIS!!!

it's so bad

[rocky kraken]

not sure how that thing made it into the game

and why it hasnt been redone

but

i trust that dice listens to people

and will cleanse our eyes

[tough wolf]

i'd honestly be fine with the ak74u in its current state, if only it had a proper reload animation

[rocky kraken]

with the godliest aks47u reload of all time

[solar obsidian]

meanwhile sfar ads bug is still there

[tough wolf]

it takes like 20 years to reload

and for the last 3/4ths of the reload animation, nothing is happening. the mag is in, and the gun is in hand, but it's still not ready to shoot for some dumb reason

[rocky kraken]

does dice have an animation team to fix animations as well or is it one team

because clearly they have done nothing

[solar obsidian]

i feel bad for kids that have never used a crt

they have no idea how smooth and clean a picture can look in motion

[last niche]

m16a3 reload is wield

but m16 is amazing

[arctic grove]

It’s probably the character inserting the old mag back into a mag pouch unless you’re talking about the empty to full reload

[tough wolf]

dont care

looks stupid

feels stupid

is stupid

needs to go

[rocky kraken]

also

wtf is the location of the gun on the screen when running

some portal and vault weapons are so far left

they aare in my hud

[arctic grove]

Probably classic camera perspectives

Some portal nostalgia stuff

[rocky kraken]

they gotta do work to the camera

shake

[arctic grove]

I didn’t ask if you cared, but that’s usually why it seems like the character is doing nothing lol

Best way to know would be to view the 3rd person perspective of the reload since those are surprisingly good in this game

[rocky kraken]

seriously

dice rework all of them

makes the game feel horrible

[arctic grove]

I originally liked the concept of vault weapons but I would’ve rather taken remodels of em for 2042

[rocky kraken]

dont even talk about the new emr added

same

just make new versions

with good animations

for now on

yeah

but they fixed that

[solar obsidian]

[arctic grove]

M16A3 slap looks

weak

[rocky kraken]

it sounds bad

sounds are even worse

muffled

no resonance

bad

[arctic grove]

Most of the animation is just like the m5a3 so it’s ok until the end

At least it doesn’t end with the character pulling back the charging handle

[rocky kraken]

its literally the same one

thats why it looks good

[arctic grove]

Oh is it? Hm

[rocky kraken]

i hate the animation when spawning

remoVe it

[solar obsidian]

make a battlefield not based on some real life shit,

give us fucking renegade back

[arctic grove]

Dice can go all out but I ask for one thing and one thing only

[solar obsidian]

2142

[arctic grove]

A modern, country vs country faction vs faction theme

[rocky kraken]

really

[turbid compass]

2024

[rocky kraken]

bf1 had it?

[turbid compass]

Bf2024

[solar obsidian]

just give us some creativity instead of this bf4 sequel

[turbid compass]

That’s what I want

[rocky kraken]

vietnam

again

that would be good

[arctic grove]

That’s fair

[rocky kraken]

i swear

[solar obsidian]

battlefield north korea

[arctic grove]

I basically just want a new BF4

[solar obsidian]

oh wait, we already seen homefront

[arctic grove]

One that isn’t 10 yrs old this year iirc

[turbid compass]

Or another bad company

[rocky kraken]

bad company 3

but

what if they fuck it uip

that would not be good

[solar obsidian]

they would

[arctic grove]

That’s why I doubt they’d do bad company 3

[solar obsidian]

100%

they said multiple times they have no idea why it was so loved

[rocky kraken]

they need to stick with modern or historic

so they can use photomatography

i think thats what its called

[solar obsidian]

200k bc

[arctic grove]

After a new modern game and or a Vietnam game, where would BF even go next

[solar obsidian]

riding tamed dinosaur

[arctic grove]

At that point just do complete remasters and call it a day

[solar obsidian]

but honestly, i dont care about where the game are in terms of timeline

i just want some proper animations and physics on the target im hitting

make them bleed

lose limps

blown up

[arctic grove]

It’s weird how that all sounds like too much for an M rated game

[solar obsidian]

make ragdolls interactable when dead, until they despawn

[rocky kraken]

all i want

animation rework

and squad

managment

the reason so many people play mw2 over bf is the animation

[next onyx]

Reminds me. I think battlefield is usually ma15+ here.

[rocky kraken]

im 14 and a half

[solar obsidian]

its based on wars, the most polite war ever

[rocky kraken]

what happens

[arctic grove]

Heh yea, there’s just a blood splatter effect and intact ragdolls

[next onyx]

It's usually something that factors in with the sale of a game.

[solar obsidian]

yep, have to sell parent on the idea its kid friendly

[arctic grove]

Makes sense

If it remotely hurts your profits, just avoid it altogether

[solar obsidian]

and making gore takes money and resources

[crimson basin]

Bad company 3 would mean 32 players max and rush as main focus

[solar obsidian]

sounds terrible

[acoustic seal]

holy shit please

[next onyx]

You are not allowed to sell an MA15+ or an R18+ directly to those under the age. A guardian must be present.

[solar obsidian]

no prone

[arctic grove]

ew rush

[last niche]

I know a 11yearold boy in 2019 playing bfv

[next onyx]

That's how it works here.

[crimson basin]

And that

[solar obsidian]

shit recoil based on some 30fps console experience

[acoustic seal]

built in anti-rat mechanics?? where do i buy it right now

[rocky kraken]

so yall think jets will get love

at some point

[last niche]

do you have a gun in real life?

[arctic grove]

It’s hard to imagine prone actually making people camp unless it’s like

BFV

[solar obsidian]

get eyes and monitor checked, seeing people prone in this game is not an issue

[acoustic seal]

no lol, none of the devs fly

[arctic grove]

Nope unfortunately

[rocky kraken]

great

amazing

awesomne

great

cant wait to get fucked by another tank

🙂

maybe i will play war thunder

kinda the same thing

[acoustic seal]

lis missile up your jet's tailhole

[solar obsidian]

no war thunder have actually amazing damage models

[acoustic seal]

very balance yes

[arctic grove]

Lis is a message to vehicle players

all of us

[rocky kraken]

remove lis

please

[next onyx]

I do know cryphis farms in vehicles.

[last niche]

hoi4

[solar obsidian]

get out of here grandpa

[last niche]

[solar obsidian]

company of heroes 3

[arctic grove]

I indulge in some HOI4

[rocky kraken]

SO

[solar obsidian]

cant wait for another stack of tires to block my tank shots

[rocky kraken]

what is the reason

for portal destruction

being good

[solar obsidian]

send them anywhere

[rocky kraken]

and 2042

being ass

[arctic grove]

2043 desteuxjriobkmdmd

[solar obsidian]

portal is based of older games

[rocky kraken]

so

can we not get a map with that

or

[solar obsidian]

even the buildings in bf 1942 snow maps are taken from bf5

these names all the sudden

[next onyx]

I'll just say that in 2042 how the maps work kind of don't lend themselves to destruction.

[solar obsidian]

give us a battlefield game, made in crysis universe

[next onyx]

And the structures contained within.

[solar obsidian]

i want to kill somebody throwing a chicken

[rocky kraken]

yall

should peaking be added

?

[arctic grove]

At this point and it’s maybe just cause it’s late and I’m tired but

just

add.

just add things

[rocky kraken]

ive wondered what the animation team actually does besides make guns

besides

making

soldier

upgrades

i meant

[calm bison]

I mean they probably animate how the vehicles move

[solar obsidian]

they listen to feedback /s

[rocky kraken]

yeah

[calm bison]

How the characters move

[rocky kraken]

sure

but

no way

they dont have time

to add peaking

[calm bison]

How the environment reacts to vehicles

[rocky kraken]

and backwards prone

also

tracks from vehicles float above ground

just saying

i found this out while being prone

and iwas under a whole tank track

[calm bison]

I mean like

[rocky kraken]

also

[calm bison]

That’s so obscure

[rocky kraken]

how come no

[calm bison]

It’s almost not an issue

[rocky kraken]

footprints on spearhead

??

also

exposure rivers

if you shoot them

there is no bullet effect

its annoying

[calm bison]

Because there is no snow or anything that could have your footprint in them?

[solar obsidian]

back to noticing the small details

[rocky kraken]

and cursed

mud

theres a ton of mud

so

[calm bison]

Mud footsteps haven’t been a thing even so far as BFV or BF1

[rocky kraken]

look at stranded

oh

well

[drowsy shuttle]

The Assault Weapon Proficiency will no longer grant extra ammunition for Underbarrel Grenade Launchers. <---- NOOOOOOOOOOOOOO oh well was fun while it lasted

[rocky kraken]

stranded is on dirt

which doesnt really make sense

because its hard dirt

but im

i notice small things

[solar obsidian]

i wish there was the same urgency to push for better monitors, like we want better games

[calm bison]

Ok who’s gonna tell him what happens to earth when it’s exposed to air and not covered by water

[rocky kraken]

well

accoridng to my 4 year son earth

my knowledge is lackluster

havent monitors been the same for like 10years

except that corsair monitor that you can bend

kinda cool

[calm bison]

Also what animations need fixing? Most if not all of them are fine, outside of a few issues like the M39 bolt not responding

[rocky kraken]

erm

vaulting

running

transitions

prone

[calm bison]

How..?

[rocky kraken]

idk

they are janky

and your hands

go through guns

[calm bison]

Those animations are completely fine tho

[rocky kraken]

and glitch

idk bro

definitley not good compared to other games

[acoustic seal]

you gotta worry about something that matters, man

[rocky kraken]

or comapred to past titles

[next onyx]

Slow down with the messages otherwise you're going to trigger the automute.

[rocky kraken]

o k a y

anywaaays

[next onyx]

The animations I don't really care about since they do the job most of the time.

[rocky kraken]

sure

[calm bison]

Comparatively 2042 animations are fine. I’m on series s and don’t seem to have much of an issue with them

[solar obsidian]

no, its more where the different focus is, most mid range and upper good selling monitors focus on stupid high refresh rates, compared to what 99% of games are being played on them

[rocky kraken]

well

after 900 hours

i can say as ive played

the animations have gotten to me

especially the portal

[calm bison]

Portal weapons are a bit jank but they could be worse

And I’ve seen much worse

Case and point

R6 siege

[drowsy shuttle]

PP-2000 damage increased up to 50m from 22 -> 28 ----- so i guess i will have to upgrade my PP from 29 to 2000? cool i guess

[rocky kraken]

thats the problem with accepting shit from a triple a company

[next onyx]

655 hours in and I don't really notice them at all.

[calm bison]

Beeg pp

[rocky kraken]

maybe just some polish to some

[next onyx]

There are a few annoying ones but I'm not gonna kick up a storm about it.

[rocky kraken]

would be nice

[solar obsidian]

pp 29 is smaller than pp2000 so make sense

[rocky kraken]

which they have done a little bit of since launch

[next onyx]

Yeah polish would go a long way I think.

[rocky kraken]

i dont think complete new ones are needed

[calm bison]

My main gripe with portal is we could at least do with like 3 new maps. 1 for each chunk

[rocky kraken]

1 portal map per season would have been great

[next onyx]

New animations are annoying to do for them.

[calm bison]

Also the community surrounding portal

Sucks

I’m just gonna say it

Outside of a select few

They suck

[rocky kraken]

yeaa

milsim players

[next onyx]

I was talking to Alex about the Ar57 and with what I gathered. No chance.

[rocky kraken]

killed portal

[solar obsidian]

this have been the same since battlefield went mainstream with bf3

[rocky kraken]

no chance for what

[calm bison]

I’m really getting the idea that these people have no clue what battlefield is

[next onyx]

No chance for that because they have to do completely new animations.

[calm bison]

If you’re playing battlefield with 200% damage

[rocky kraken]

yeah

[arctic grove]

fuck

[calm bison]

You’re not playing battlefield

[rocky kraken]

the aow animations are fine

[calm bison]

You’re playing ArmA or something else

[rocky kraken]

just some buggy ones sometimes

[next onyx]

The MTAR reuses the AC42 animation, the M416 reuses the m5a3's animations.

[rocky kraken]

like the prone animation where your hands are jerkin around

[acoustic seal]

600 real war iraq 1000% players are now typing furiously at you

[rocky kraken]

kinda wish they didnt reuse animations

makes all the guns feel the same

[next onyx]

It happens.

[calm bison]

I honestly think DICE should ban all hardcore and xp farm servers for like 2 weeks just to see the outrage

[rocky kraken]

but i understand its easier

dice gave too much freedom lol

dmg shouldnt be touched with imo

[next onyx]

Cuts down on dev time and allows greater focus on other areas.

[rocky kraken]

also

[solar obsidian]

[rocky kraken]

are weapons visually made virtually

or are they by picture

not sure how that works

[acoustic seal]

half the playerbase is sitting in strange pseudo-farm portal servers, it needed to be cut off ages ago

[calm bison]

And they wonder why DICE limited portal xp

[next onyx]

That is one part of the industry I do not know.

If I had to assume.

[solar obsidian]

properly scan a model and make the textures out of that

[rocky kraken]

because some of those portal textures are pretty interesting

and very bland

sort of smooth looking

[next onyx]

They most likely look at a model of the gun and try their best to replicate it with their own twist.

I know it's technically not confirmed but I want that Rm277.

[rocky kraken]

if there is 4 guns

im gonna cry

because

[calm bison]

I don’t play portal often these days. I only play when there’s vehicle gamemodes or a unique gamemode that DICE has published

[rocky kraken]

that is improvement

and

dice

[calm bison]

Like their throwing knife only gamemode for FNB today

[rocky kraken]

the ar looks badass

[calm bison]

That shit was fun

[rocky kraken]

yeah it was

a bit buggy

but

felt satisfying

[calm bison]

I’m still so used to BFV throwing knives

[rocky kraken]

sometimes i would randomly pull out a computer

[calm bison]

2042 knives feel off for me

[rocky kraken]

never played bf5

[calm bison]

Damn that’s unfortunate

[rocky kraken]

they are kinda too accurate

imo

if you have any type of aim

you can wipe 10 dudes

[solar obsidian]

try bfi

[rocky kraken]

in like 3 seconds

[calm bison]

BFV knives felt like they had weight to them

[rocky kraken]

i played bf3-bf1

bf3 greatest bfd

bf

[calm bison]

2042 knives kinda just feel like throwing cards

[rocky kraken]

thats a good way to put it

[calm bison]

I’m still not sure about their travel velocity

[rocky kraken]

fast as hell

[solar obsidian]

they are not even fun to use

sadly

[rocky kraken]

yeah

unless you have

a killstreak

[solar obsidian]

ac130

[rocky kraken]

i have 22k deaths

holy shit

i suck

i how i hate exposure

😦

[next gulch]

BFV is suddenly unplayable using windowed fullscreen lol, bunch of stutter

[solar obsidian]

@rocky krakenhttps://youtu.be/lGeM6S_m9pI?t=82 timestamp

its this time of the day im gonna scream about this

[rocky kraken]

is there a way to increase volume

past 100

[solar obsidian]

turn up headphones ?

[rocky kraken]

nvm i got it

[solar obsidian]

[rocky kraken]

definitley did osmething to explosions

this update

sound and look betteer

[thick shadow]

Didn't the explosions already sound crisp

[rocky kraken]

i mean yeah

but they sound better

not sure if its realistic for a bunch of metal panels to come from an explosion but its a bit excessive

[ebon pilot]

i tried so hard

also himself65 was my gunner the whole time I was in a RAM and he killed everything he was amazing

[acoustic seal]

there was a moment when i was carrying garbage in a bf1 frontlines server and i caught this weird case of existential dread

it was this sudden realization that literally nothing i did in the match would matter because we'd lose anyway

dropped the game for months

[ebon pilot]

honestly, i felt that at the start of this match

all our vehicles were being useless, nobody was really pushing objectives

but then on the spawn menu I saw a RAM available

and I went on a rampage with himself65

and it honestly felt like we might've been able to pull a win if I got the RAM a little earlier

[rocky kraken]

wish the ram wasnt a flip machine

[ebon pilot]

because we went around the map capping objectives and destroying the opposition which gave the rest of the team a chance to push

[rocky kraken]

every time i turn it flips

not sure why

[ebon pilot]

but sometimes this is all the team needs: a leading vehicle that wipes out a majority of the enemy force so infantry can push up without getting sniped from the high ground

in other news: this clip

you've seen getting killed behind walls, but what about getting kills behind walls

[rocky kraken]

are there any common natural disasters in south africa

[ebon pilot]

flooding probably

because drought

[rocky kraken]

hm

imagine

flooding in the new map

[ebon pilot]

there was a tornado in 1999

[rocky kraken]

and you fight in knee deep water

[ebon pilot]

Table Mountain likes to catch fire apparently

[sturdy socket]

ah lovely

so Lis gets no nerf to her 80 damage bullshit, but javelins and tracer darts get nerfed

better be some fucking supremo himalayan jungle bullshit being smoked to make these changes

how about TRACER DARTS NOT AFFECTING STEALTH HELIS

[rocky kraken]

well

no

because

stealth helis need a counter

[sturdy socket]

yeah

so

let tracer darts lock onto stealth helis

instead of making them completely immune to any fucking lock

why does it make sense that stealth mode fucks with the dart

instead of it being an independent lock like it should be

[rocky kraken]

oh i see

the steath isnt effected by tracer?

[sturdy socket]

nope

4 separate darts

cannot be locked on no matter what

honestly, just

let it lock stealth helis

[rocky kraken]

wow

thats fucked

[sturdy socket]

and increase jav travel time by 200-250%

[acoustic seal]

inf-vehicle balance in this game is so incredibly cursed

[sturdy socket]

stealth helis are basically the Attack Heli on Siege of Shanghai in BF4

but for every map

so enjoy getting farmed while two clan members spam ajajajaja on a 250 killstreak

[acoustic seal]

lis missiles can outrun jets but the one thing you'd think would override heli stealth is worthless

shut the game down and start over honestly

[sturdy socket]

honestly i've heard calls for that a lot and nobody can be blamed for it

but a step in the right direction is just to let it affect stealth helis for fucks sake

and that javelin travel speed is so pitifully slow that it almost makes lasing air targets pointless

jav should work like in 4

require constant lock if not SOFLAM'd

in exchange let it travel way faster

[rocky kraken]

sad thing is

no one uses soflam

[sturdy socket]

that level requirement is so damn high

[acoustic seal]

i also think about the smg headshot multiplier nerf daily

[sturdy socket]

the only person I've seen use it is the person I play with who purposely does it

[rocky kraken]

what lvl is soflam'

[sturdy socket]

like 50 or 52 isn't it

[acoustic seal]

SMG’s are not weapons which should reward accuracy versus other weapon types -some clown

[sturdy socket]

nope

56

whereas in 4 you have access to the PLD straight off as Recon

SOFLAM in 4 is ass as a gadget, and the suav is amazing if you have coordination

i cannot understate how much I love the suav as a gadget

but anyway

laser painting is underutilized in 4, whereas in 2042 you're not gonna find hardly anyone doing it which would explain why it retains lock for 8 seconds

the dart gun's a piece of shit, and this nerf basically makes it obsolete since it can't even have the niche of marking stealth helis

[arctic grove]

i have a nap jdea

map idea

what about a map that takes place after a nuclear explosion or smthna nd theres like radioactive hot spots and like you need a gas mask in some spots like idk

[acoustic seal]

the intended use of the dart gun is enabling javelins to hit tanks for 44hp, for some reason

[acoustic seal]

just port passchendaele i don't trust them to make maps anymore

[sturdy socket]

huh

i don't follow

[arctic grove]

whats port passchendaele

ngl i was sorta just thinking about the apocalypae DLC from bf1 when i thought of that lol

o now i know what jt is

[acoustic seal]

the javelin has a "hit from the top" firemode that only works under some bizarre circumstances like when locked onto darted tanks, it does a lot more damage but not enough to lower rockets needed to kill

[sturdy socket]

don't rockets hit for 45 un-lazed, and 60 when lazed?

[rocky kraken]

idk

[sturdy socket]

i've always had it consistently do 60 under soflam

to tanks and transport helis

[acoustic seal]

i guess even i have no idea then lmao

just remove the shit from the game honestly

[rocky kraken]

i want mortaer

not a tracer dart

or

laser artillery

[acoustic seal]

yeah this game needs more indirect fire random unavoidable deaths

haven't got enough of those yet

[sturdy socket]

soflam as a gadget is great in its current state

[rocky kraken]

mavs

[sturdy socket]

but

[rocky kraken]

and the mortar pod on tanks

are broken

[sturdy socket]

the tracer dart is so

so so so so

pointless

[rocky kraken]

ya know why it is

because a bunch of crybabys complained

so theynerfed it

[vocal zenith]

what did they change on the tracer dart?

[acoustic seal]

the combo was stupid in concept and stupid in playtesting, especially when they also turbo buffed all the other rockets in the same patch

faster longer lis missile, faster recoilless

[vocal zenith]

they had to do that because there are less launchers now in the game since engineers are the only one

[sturdy socket]

jav can no longer lock on it out of line of sight

reduced velocity by half

[vocal zenith]

ehh that doesnt sound too bad

[sturdy socket]

there's mmore

40s lock time reduced to 12s

[acoustic seal]

making lis missile outrun jets isn't compensating for "less launchers", it's pure stupidity

like maybe there's an argument for better turn angles if you really want to stretch it but idk man

[vocal zenith]

no its a means of combating jets that are sticking too close to the ground

jets main purpose is to dispose of helis, if they have no means of being countered

then what are ppl supposed to do

helis counter infantry, jets counter helis, infantry can deal with both

[arctic grove]

I believe the wildcat is for the planes

[sturdy socket]

ok, but infantry shouldn't have a goddamn tv missile available to them

[arctic grove]

It’s 30s will shred them

[sturdy socket]

imagine if they had that in 4

a portable tv launcher

people would go fucking insane

[vocal zenith]

wildcat isnt really aa in my opnion

its a defensive means of countering air targets

a competent pilot will just avoid the area the wildcat is in

[acoustic seal]

speaking of, i have never seen a wildcat shoot at a heli

[arctic grove]

Wildcats are more effective when they know how to traverse the map and deny access to other areas too

It’s a good strategy but you’ve gotta be careful

[vocal zenith]

because most helis dont fk around and find out

[rocky kraken]

erm

does aps not stop javelin

[vocal zenith]

the moment they get locked they flare and hide lol

[rocky kraken]

?

[vocal zenith]

it does

[arctic grove]

You mean you never watched one of the many videos of people playing in the wildcat?

[rocky kraken]

welp

aps is bugged

didnt work for me

[vocal zenith]

aps has a blindspot

rockets aming directly at the aps sometimes go through

[arctic grove]

Technically speaking your job is done in the Wildcat if you just fire AAMs and the heli flares and buggers off

May not have shot the heli down but you just performed area denial

[rocky kraken]

let me take of gl off scar

please

[acoustic seal]

WISH PEOPLE WOULD APPLY THIS LOGIC TO RAO HACK INSTEAD OF GIVING IT FREE SOFLAM TOO

[arctic grove]

Rao was good at area denial as is true

[sturdy socket]

people just flare when they get the hack notification

[arctic grove]

Annoyingly good

• helicopter pilot

[sturdy socket]

rao's hack is useless

[vocal zenith]

ppl in the ground needs means of countering helis

[arctic grove]

Yeah, that’s a good thing

[vocal zenith]

helis cant have free roam of both skies and ground

[arctic grove]

Cause now they gotta fly away to recharge them

Unless they want more missiles up the ass

The soflam lock makes sense since he’s still a recon so eh

Not saying it’s inherently balanced or anything but I kinda get why they’d do it. I can’t be sure if it is or isn’t

[sturdy socket]

me on my way to bomb the same skyscraper repeatedly with the stealth heli but it's balanced because he has to flare, hide on the sides of the rooftop and loop around until it regens again

[arctic grove]

I mean you know you can still shoot at them too yes

[vocal zenith]

also none of these buffs to rocket launcher has affected competent pilots, is it annoying? yea, as it should be helis are OP Af and needs to have some skill. does the launcher buff makes heli flying imposible? no it just makes it imposible for helis to camp one area and farm kills

[arctic grove]

Not really now with the classes unfortunately. But maybe don’t stick to that rooftop for very long

[sturdy socket]

"just pilot snipe them bro"

[arctic grove]

with rocket

lol

You could be daring and go for the pilot snipe tho…

[acoustic seal]

helis are still insane farm vehicles but that's just a skill gap moment

[sturdy socket]

me when the flares last as long as bf4 ecm meaning I can just do high altitude bombing and dive down for cover

[vocal zenith]

ive seen so many idiot super hind pilots just hovering farming kills

[rocky kraken]

add jets

[arctic grove]

No you cannot

[vocal zenith]

and i railed the pilot in the head so many times lol

[arctic grove]

Their flight ceiling was dramatically reduced

[sturdy socket]

LOL

[arctic grove]

Why are you laughing? It was in patch notes lol

Stealth helis flight ceiling got sliced my man

[vocal zenith]

yes helis still insane but now it has more threats to deal with lis missiles, javelins, rao hack soflam, etc

which is a good thing

[sturdy socket]

lis missiles shouldn't exist or need a heavy damage nerf

that's not an acceptable "counter"

[arctic grove]

The flying thing that shoots explosions probably will be better at chaining kills

[vocal zenith]

and helis shouldn't allow someone to 60 - 0 every game ive seen 120 - 0 heli pilots too

[arctic grove]

Nah just joking

[arctic grove]

I personally feel Lis is pretty cursed yeah

[sturdy socket]

i agree, battlefield 4 is unplayable on Siege as a result

[arctic grove]

I dunno tho, balance is a headache

[sturdy socket]

but having TV missiles for infantry is not the way to go about it

[arctic grove]

Siege that KIIIINDA has to do with map design but yeah vehicles in that game ohmuhlord

[sturdy socket]

at all

[vocal zenith]

so u prefer lock ons which are basicly useless againts helis? ok

[sturdy socket]

like I said, the tracer dart should have the niche of bypassing stealth mode

[arctic grove]

I personally like siege and dawnbreaker but I must admit the zipping between skyscrapers shit can make for some REALLY annoying games vs a decent pilot

[sturdy socket]

• give no warning of the dart being attached

[acoustic seal]

you can't keep adding turbo hard counters in a 64/128 player game, that's just horribly unfun

[arctic grove]

ehhhh

no

[vocal zenith]

tv missiles means u need to aim and there is a degree of counter play involved

[sturdy socket]

yes

[arctic grove]

why would that be ok

[acoustic seal]

turn down the heli guns instead please

[sturdy socket]

because the dart gun is fundamentally useless especially now

and has nothing over the soflam

apart from "hur hur let me waste one of my valuable darts to kill a sniper on a tower"

[arctic grove]

Genuinely asking. Why would it be okay to get a free lock on with no notification to the vehicle

[vocal zenith]

idk what u complaing about im still seing competent heli pilots dodge multiple incoming lis missiles perfectly fine

[arctic grove]

Just consider if that was possible in a game of 128 total players

[vocal zenith]

its annoying for the pilot but so what deal with it

[sturdy socket]

because I'd like you to ponder what meaningful advantages the dart gun has over the SOFLAM

[acoustic seal]

tv missiles are easier than ever lol, finding the top 1% pilots who can dodge them is not an excuse

[sturdy socket]

and because stealth heli farmers are fucking ass and deserve nothing

[arctic grove]

The dart and soflam do have their differences

[sturdy socket]

yeah

dart's useless

soflam isn't

that's the difference

[vocal zenith]

no they made lis missiles more reliable

[arctic grove]

That doesn’t mean make the dart incredibly op tho

lol

[vocal zenith]

it had bs hit reg before

[lusty timber]

hi guys what wrong: gun always shoot. what i should do

[acoustic seal]

you get TWO PASSES for free now between the lifespan increase and better turn angles

[sturdy socket]

dart gun has half velocity

• jav cannot lock onto it through cover anymore

[arctic grove]

Honestly man I can tell ya this

[sturdy socket]

+12 second lock time from 40 seconds

making it more skill based is fine

but make it useful

[arctic grove]

IIRC AP ammo disables the stealth. So does wildcats shooting em

Lis one shots the stealth heli

It’s generally weaker than attack helis anyways

Glass cannon basically

[sturdy socket]

otherwise it has no purpose and is overshadowed by SOFLAM every time

[arctic grove]

I don’t even see them that often anymore tbh

[sturdy socket]

meh

[arctic grove]

Agreed my brudda. Basic balance is not being debated here

[vocal zenith]

here the thing tho there are less launchers now in the game, which means engineers being better at their job of taking down heli is a good thing

[sturdy socket]

maybe I'd dial it back with the darts

how about

no notification for when it's attached

BUT

notification when something fires on the lock

so it's dodgeable still but like with active missiles in 4 you have to react quickly

[vocal zenith]

no notification for when its attached is a skill issue

[lusty timber]

guys what wrong: gun always shoot. what i should do

[vocal zenith]

you can literally see a red glowing thing on ur vehicle in third person

[acoustic seal]

players being too dense to use it doesn't mean it's magically not a stupid interaction

[arctic grove]

Depends on where it lands

[sturdy socket]

anyway yeah

[vocal zenith]

look if they didnt make lis misisles more reliable it just means the overall power of infantry againts helis go down

thats bad

[sturdy socket]

if tracer darts are to be useful and "skill based", give them a reward for actually using the gadget and an advantage over the SOFLAM

[vocal zenith]

when helis are OP AF

[sturdy socket]

so essentially

[acoustic seal]

why tf do you keep using "more reliable", they're EASIER

longer lifespan and better turn angles is EASIER

[vocal zenith]

i said more reliable because i had no issues aiming them at helis but whenever it should it its basicly a roll of a dice whether or not it hits

[arctic grove]

I’m glad I don’t work as a game dev this doesn’t scratch the surface of balance and my head is pounding /j

[vocal zenith]

for pc players lis missiles was already easy to aim before the buff, its just not reliable

[arctic grove]

I’d make vehicles OP with stealth buffs every 2 months

[acoustic seal]

no-reg issues aren't a symptom of balance

[sturdy socket]

Tracer Dart
-Dart does not give warning when attached, only when fired on does the pilot get notified
-Allow the dart to ignore stealth mode from the stealth helis

there you go

tracer darts have an amazing niche

then just boost the javelin travel speed

and you have a winner

[arctic grove]

dood

noh

[vocal zenith]

no but no -reg was stopping the heli pilots from complaing when dodging them is still doable even now

[sturdy socket]

care to explain why

[arctic grove]

I thought I already did

Deja Vu

[vocal zenith]

and its not just the 1% of heli pilots

[sturdy socket]

the problem is that Lis shouldn't exist as a counter

teamwork should be heavily rewarded

hence

[vocal zenith]

i still see on a regular basis regular heli pilots dodging just fine

[sturdy socket]

dart gun buff

and making it not useless

[arctic grove]

Lis this Lis that

it’s late and I’m tired, wtf is going on

Dice just, don’t do infantry tv missiles again

pls

[vocal zenith]

its 2042 they can do what ever they want

we have railgun tanks for god sakes

[sturdy socket]

don't even start with that

[acoustic seal]

dice needs to be under constant supervision before they add another irish APS and buff rao hack again

[vocal zenith]

cmv: railgun tank actually takes skill

[arctic grove]

Nah I hear ya just screwing around. I like to ironically hate or like something depending on its reputation

Like how hourglass is the games best map

No debate

[sturdy socket]

die in agony

[arctic grove]

It’s such a good map. Solos all BF maps ever

[vocal zenith]

arguably a good map for vehilces not so much for everyone else

[arctic grove]

[sturdy socket]

i just honestly hope they buff the tracer dart in the way I want

because then it has a purpose

[arctic grove]

Indeed. You are talking to the one and only AH-64GX Apache Warchief main after all

[sturdy socket]

i would fucking L-O-V-E LOVE the tracer dart gun and consider using it over the SOFLAM

for niche situations like that

[acoustic seal]

every patch feels like it's being made by someone who has never touched a shooter in their life

[arctic grove]

AR headshot buff will continue to piss me off

I hate just MOVING and a firefight has already ended

[acoustic seal]

set the headshot multiplier to 2x and stop fucking with it

please

every time i think about "smgs should not reward accuracy" i start seeing red

[arctic grove]

See red. Let it consume you

This will benefit you greatly

[rocky kraken]

hm

yall thinking purple is the next season color

or what

green maybe

[arctic grove]

Purple or green don’t seem appropriate imo for my violent shooter game