battlefield-2042

[shut mirage]

i play lis like a douche but it works

[fresh lintel]

I play her to counter the cheesem

[eager spire]

and jets because the missiles are faster than a jet when boosted

[fresh lintel]

No stealth Helis allowed in my lobbym

[shut mirage]

actually i dont want to give up my secret

[eager spire]

making it possible to take out a jet that way

[fresh lintel]

I dont go for jets

[shut mirage]

also not get targeted lol

[fresh lintel]

Unless theyre hovering and farming infantry

[shut mirage]

lis is fun, third fav specialist

[pine roost]

I'd change around the way the rocket works if they intend to keep it as a TV and not a sraw

[fresh lintel]

Honestly with how little play her on console, itd just be less Lis players I think

[limber orbit]

i dont even bump into that many lis players lol

[fresh lintel]

Nothing screams "Dont play me" when a Little bird can fly away and get flares or a Stealth can just go "Lol, lmao"

Oh wait a SRAW is a dumb fire right?

[limber orbit]

wire guided or laser i dont know

[eager spire]

wire guided.

[limber orbit]

main thing i used in bf4

clap some chopper cheeks

[pine roost]

guided but you stay in the camera of your player

which removes the whole idea of it negating cover but also serves the purpose of being a guided missile

[hybrid totem]

So armor, light armor, helis and jets. Man she can't really hit anything huh

[twin ledge]

A real tragedy

[hybrid totem]

With the extended range, I've actually had success after missing by pulling a 180 and hitting them again

Haven't yet hit a jet with the new and improved one

But usually had no trouble doing so with the old one

[pine roost]

it's a breeze with the new one

hittig anything is easy now since it's not only got that faster turn speed but a longer duration

so you literally have about 4-5 attempts to circle back onto something

[royal swan]

Assault is such a shit class now

Very boring to play

[twin ledge]

[royal swan]

A dumb down version of cod simulator

[fresh lintel]

Well the light armor has a heavier risk of getting the pilot killed since you're wide open and it does AOE damage.

Plus it two shots Jeeps and.. I wanna say the Minelayer vehicle?

The Littlebird and Stealth have both mobility and ways to just completely dunk on a Lis.

Jets are harmless to ground (unless its the hover one) so I dont target them even though its a instakill for them too

[edgy oriole]

assaults always been boring imo. mackay was only good and fun bc you could just strafe jump to victory everytime. and sundance AA nades are great kill stealers

[fresh lintel]

And its a great cooldown and Revive denier.

Throw and forget for vehicles since it aims for you and then the Clusters just fuck people up

[drowsy shuttle]

boris sentry cooldown is too big for such an easy item to destroy... not to mention it just tickles vehicles and infantry

[royal swan]

Really disappointing that we are entering the player based issues of the game

Not in a good mood, keep getting matches with useless teammates

[edgy oriole]

took me 47 hours to t1 him before the nerf. i could only imagine how shit it is since then.

[royal swan]

Engineer isn't fun without a scout and the scouts are rare and non compliant

[drowsy shuttle]

yep.. its my biggest complain about bf 2042 now.... give us better teammates, Dice. lol

[royal swan]

The loading bugs and yes I would love better teammates

That's my main complaints

Brain dead teammates and constant restarting my PC because it doesn't load correctly

[modest ivy]

The new version of Breakaway is really fun to play now

[royal swan]

As attacker

Defending is a fat pain

More than the other maps

Two sectors are completely easy pickings for attackers

The third is more challenging

And the last is mid easy for both sides

[modest ivy]

I mean sure, attacking is always fun IMO, but I've had plenty of flanks on the first sector where I and a squad mate managed to save the team from an early sector cap.

[drowsy shuttle]

here is a great example of how awesome the g57 is and how shitty the boris sentry is lol ... jesus christ.. just rework the specialist, Dice

[edgy oriole]

yeah defender is tough bc you are forced to be down hill. im sure if i used marksman id have a better time.

[royal swan]

This update is so good that it made the toxic gaming YouTube commentary channels happy

[uneven ferry]

I haven't played 2042 since it released cause of how bad it got

It's hard to get back into it cause I jumped onto cod and the movement is so different

[jovial whale]

how can i fix LAG/delay

[hybrid totem]

Better Internet? Different region? Another server?

[royal swan]

Getting a better internet connection

[hybrid totem]

Moving your computer closer to your router or running a hardline would help

[jovial whale]

i dont think its my internet the router is under my desk

[still vault]

All depends on the reason for the lag / delay and what you mean with lag / delay

[hybrid totem]

Oh for sure I'm just throwing out the most common solutions I know, since I don't know anything about your setup

Do you have a lead shield between your router and your PC?

Removing that might do it

[still vault]

If your wireless is 2,4Ghz and you have a turned on microwave between that and the antenna in your computer then that might be causing it as well 😄

[jovial whale]

bruh

[hybrid totem]

Have you restarted your
Game
Computer
Router?

[mossy badge]

Life

[hybrid totem]

Not until after I die tho

[fresh lintel]

I love when a little bird gets so salty that they feel the need to start spawn camping

[edgy oriole]

thats the goal of helos. thats what wins games

[hybrid totem]

I thought it was capping points. Damn I been playing wrong

[ebon pilot]

holy shit this guy got fuckin merked by rng

[fresh lintel]

I mean when i'm just trying to get Rorsch headshots for the 6x Thermal and this dude is like "What do you MEAN I cant farm infantry players without worry?"

Because i'm a Lis and he got too close to our spawn

But also smh why is there no buildings in spawns lmao

[jovial whale]

idk what gamemode to play

[viral crescent]

Is the Nonam3 aim trainer broken after the update? I get some kind of error now.

[radiant prism]

what hit him lmao

[ebon pilot]

a flying car

[drowsy shuttle]

Reality

[radiant prism]

oh my god lol thats hilarious

[ebon pilot]

in the kill feed he got terminated by nothing

[arctic grove]

honestly, the reason why i bought bf2042 instead of mw22/mw19 is that, first, the modern warfare series focuses on attention to detail more than the gameplay itself

and bf2042 apparently feels like older bf games now

also, what is the best class in bf2042

[edgy oriole]

best class is personally preference

[arctic grove]

maybe i’m gonna go for assault or whatever that is called cuz i’m a bad support

i go into action, i always push lol

but what class has that grappling hook and self-med?

[fresh lintel]

The lack of "Location revealed" and two enemies that knew my location perfectly concerns me

[ebon pilot]

Mackay is an Assault specialist with the grappling hook

[arctic grove]

okay, do you unlock specialists?

[ebon pilot]

I think so, as you level up

[arctic grove]

k, thanks

[ebon pilot]

not 100% sure though, last time I unlocked anything by leveling up was a year ago

[arctic grove]

oh,well i will check tmr since its getting late

[edgy oriole]

i wonder if you can reset your account progression. without losing bought skins. i wanna know what the noob experience is like

do a little 1-60 speed run

[rocky kraken]

got exposure is a mess

all the rocks have 0 textures

it actually looks really bad

idk why

[spiral folio]

guy bragging about getting assists in a hind

XD

OoOOooO

you allowed other people to shoot for you, what a god

[hybrid totem]

... Was he flying it?

[willow thicket]

I didn't realise this game had ray tracing, was sitting here for ages trying to figure out why my fps hadn't increased after upgrading to a 3080 ti

it defaulted to ray tracing being on ;-;

[fresh lintel]

I forgot the map name but its Mud Boat map, thats an awful map

[spiral folio]

nothing is raytracing

maybe explosions

[willow thicket]

i turned off ray tracing ambient occulation in settings, went up by 40 fps

[spiral folio]

oh you mean the rendering method

i thought you meant like the rail gun

cause some kids whine it's raytracing, isnt

[sinful axle]

hey gamers, question - reinstalled bf and its running constantly at around 300 ping - no internet issues on my end just the game. Anyone seen this before??

[willow thicket]

check your ping in other games maybe

[sinful axle]

ping in other games is all good, only happens on battlefield

given it a few days and its the same everytime i hop on

[fresh lintel]

And lmao Hind assists..

[swift creek]

DOES ANYONE HERE PLAY STAR WARS

[spiral folio]

THE starwars game you say

[fresh lintel]

THIS IS BATTLEFIELD

[hybrid totem]

Wtf is wrong with hind assists

[fresh lintel]

Bragging about them as Znath said.

Which dont get me wrong, a good Hind/Condor player is welcomed its just..

You only flew

[spiral folio]

bragging about hind assists is like bragging about somebody elses wife's cooking

[hybrid totem]

Do y'all hate pilots or repair folk?

[fresh lintel]

I only hate Stealth/Little birds. Otherwise no.

[spiral folio]

[eldoradoboth.gif]

[fresh lintel]

And I dont hate the pilots, unless they do something very cunty. Like camp spawns.

[hybrid totem]

If you hate transport pilots your opinions are invalid

[spiral folio]

anyone that brags about anything while piloting a hind is automatic ridicule

[drowsy shuttle]

Only? With the amount of shit throwing into a chopper to bring it down, if he managed to keep it in the air for a long time, then its skill 97% of the player base doesnt have

[spiral folio]

even if they're bragging about something irrelevant

like "guys I made this great tuna steak yesterday"
"you're piloting a hind you piece of trash"
"choke on it"

[hybrid totem]

... Wow. Imagine this game without transport pilots

What would even be the point

[spiral folio]

-imagines an open field of animals and flowers everyone's happy-

[willow thicket]

i c5'd this helicopter crew 3 times in a row yesterday

everytime, grappled ontop, threw c5

[hybrid totem]

You mean an open field where night birds hold the sky

[drowsy shuttle]

As a sundance player, transport pilots are a must.. i would buy them some dinner if i could

[fresh lintel]

I mean fair, but its also still just "Haha look at all the kills I didnt get" to me lmao

[hybrid totem]

Bf2042 was at its peak when conquest had 2 aerial transports available

[spiral folio]

poisonberry pie

[fresh lintel]

I'm surprised it doesnt have more vehicles in play

[hybrid totem]

Too many infantry mains complaining

[willow thicket]

bf2042 is in its peak rn

[hybrid totem]

You know another word for an infantry main? Cod player

[willow thicket]

actually it was peak when hoverboats went vertical up walls

[fresh lintel]

But the TOR exists now. And if people Stopped using the Wildcat for fucking G2G.

[hybrid totem]

Ok this

[drowsy shuttle]

come on now...

[willow thicket]

128 player breakthrough on old korea map

having to charge up the towers in hoverboats

[fresh lintel]

As a Planetside player: I take offense to that. Since in Planetside I was good at Air, Ground vehicles and Infantry.

[eager spire]

please shut up man.

[fresh lintel]

Its just you will not catch me flying on Xbox. Shits akin to torture.

[hybrid totem]

Well you said please

[spiral folio]

using vehicles is ok, maining vehicles kinda low

[drowsy shuttle]

why?

[spiral folio]

there's no vehicle class if you're constantly waiting in line just for vehicles, maybe practice some other part of the game

[hybrid totem]

I do, and I'm terrible at them

[fresh lintel]

I wasnt a "Main" of anything in Planetside. Like sure yeah you could argue that I play Infantry mostly, but I can easily just sit in a tank all day every day.

[drowsy shuttle]

im pretty sure most of the good pilots are also good at infantry... they just prefer to fly, and thats fair

[eager spire]

I play infantry. I'm not that interested in vehicle gameplay.

[fresh lintel]

Thats how I look at it. Its just theres Infantry mains who dont use Vehicles/Air and go "Lol lmao its cancer remove it"

[hybrid totem]

I'm legitimately bad at infantry play. Sniping people? Can't do it. Sniping helis and jets? All day baby

[fresh lintel]

laughs in sweaty player

It takes time and practice.

But you also dont need to be good at doming people to be good at Infantry play. Good positioning > Aiming.

If you have a shotgun and you get in close, you played smart and won. Theres none of this "No skill shottie" shit for me

[eager spire]

i mean shotties do require no skill. genuinely.

[drowsy shuttle]

Tell that to the mcs 800

[eager spire]

there is not a single trace of skill to be had in that.

[fresh lintel]

Less skill, but not no skill.

[eager spire]

no skill.

[drowsy shuttle]

What about the ghostmaker? Doesnt riquire skill either?

Require

[fresh lintel]

Sorry I don't clear rooms with shotties while getting shot at just by running blindly at enemiesm

[eager spire]

Ghostmaker is a crossbow.

[fresh lintel]

Positioning is a skill required to use shotties. If you die to a shottie more than once in a position where you could get range, its not the shotgunner. Its youm

[eager spire]

and if i couldn't?

[fresh lintel]

Dont respawn?

[eager spire]

:I

[drowsy shuttle]

Well the 12 auto shotgun doesnt require (aiming) skill true... but the MCS its diferent

[fresh lintel]

You KNOW a shotgun is near you. Make a gap, aim where they will be. Kill them.

Or just dont respawn and get a better position.

[eager spire]

Implying I know that in the first place
Implying I know where that shotgunner is
Implying I can make a gap
Implying I can shoot first and not get oneshot by the person with the shotgun

[fresh lintel]

The only oneshot shottie is the 870.

And no one uses irm

[eager spire]

I am speaking generally.

[elfin void]

Cause it's not like in BF4

Otherwise I'd use it

[acoustic seal]

absolutely begging game developers to stop adding one hit kill weapons to their games

[fresh lintel]

If you're in range of a shottie and it one shots you, thats just them getting close.

I WILL admit this game has ridiculous fucking range for the shotguns but still

[eager spire]

I just don't think weapons that oneshot in CQB are necessary. Not without a headshot, at least.

[drowsy shuttle]

Why? Its the shot that matters... not spray and praying with an auto weapon

[fresh lintel]

Without precision sure, Planetside required as much outside of Pump actions. Just pump actions had more spread.

[inner roost]

Pump shotty should 100% one shot

[acoustic seal]

is it more difficult to be accurate once or be accurate over several bullets?

[inner roost]

Accurate once

[drowsy shuttle]

Yep

[eager spire]

why is it more difficult to be accurate once?

[drowsy shuttle]

Because you dont have a chance to adjust

[inner roost]

Since if you spray, some of your bullets will land

[fresh lintel]

?

[arctic grove]

Oh that’s interesting, the debate about if shotguns don’t require skill

[eager spire]

Spraying =/= being accurate

being accurate implies that you're not spraying.

[spiral folio]

wow that tripping thing can go to hell

[inner roost]

Like if you're saying full auto gun vs a gun that fires once, shotgun or sniper, full auto is easier

[spiral folio]

i hadn't run into it til it rained then it's like -move one inch- -trip-

[hybrid totem]

Meh, something about being a squishy little human really makes me dumb. When I'm in the air or some rolling armor though, I play much more intelligently

It's a good thing this game can accommodate all kinds of players

[eager spire]

There's a big difference between a shotgun and a sniper rifle. At least in this game.

Sniper Rifles don't oneshot unless it's a headshot.
Shotguns do. And they can do so while hipfiring.

[fresh lintel]

I mean regardless of what weapon I use i'm still a 2.8+ KD player with a near 2KPM

If I want to kill someone in CQC i use a SMG or Shottie. Its simple as.

[spiral folio]

i don't care if people use vehicles, just when they brag about it like it's hard

[arctic grove]

Shotguns are so restricted, especially in this game on where they’re applicable I don’t know how we’d suddenly have them perform in a way that’s skillful

[hybrid totem]

... It ain't easy

[inner roost]

As they should, long engagement distances in BF allows for shotguns to be as strong as they are

[spiral folio]

ie some tank "shut up nub i'm 30-0 and you're [anything else] "

yea you've got a gun bigger than my face... congrats

[fresh lintel]

Its the same mindset in Planetside. If I want to win an engagement without this silly little moral shit i'll use what I feel is neccesary to win lmao

[inner roost]

But still you'll have an easier time succeeding with an AR in this game rather than running around with a shotty

[acoustic seal]

shotguns in this game have a ridiculous effective range, they weren't even this cringe in bf1

[eager spire]

It allows for people to play like fucking rats is what it does.

[hybrid totem]

You don't like braggarts, that's fine, but no need to disparage transport pilots at the same time

[spiral folio]

if two people are on equal footing and one tank does better than another tank, mozeltov, don't really care still but whatever. But like don't compare vehicle harvesting scores with foot soldier scores

[inner roost]

Their effective range is fine for the huge ass maps in this game

[arctic grove]

Perhaps it’s up to the generally increased map sizes, I don’t know how much more it’s possible to range them down without making them obsolete to play with

[fresh lintel]

Tfw people are just not allowed to play how they want and what they want

[spiral folio]

doesn't become a problem til some turd factory in a vehicle acts like their score matters more

[fresh lintel]

Even Planetside had less range LMAO

[eager spire]

...I mean i'd argue just don't have 'em in the game. You have SMG's for CQB.

[spiral folio]

do your job, dont put other people down for doing the harder job

[inner roost]

Nah shotguns should be in BF, shouldn't reduce weapon variety

[arctic grove]

Yeah reducing weapon variety isn’t really the best

[acoustic seal]

same response i give to the drum mag debate, put pressure on dice to fix the awful maps instead of bandaid patching weapon stats

[hybrid totem]

Score doesn't matter though. The entire match can be swayed by one good transport pilot

[arctic grove]

Shotguns are so situational anyways, 2042 doesn’t really have an entire map where they’re always applicable

Unlike something like BF1s fort de vaux for example

[bitter skiff]

Boin

[arctic grove]

Actually not even in fort de vaux for the outside parts but iirc all of the objectives are inside the fort

[acoustic seal]

there are at least two flags outside

one by the barracks and one in the bombed out section

[fresh lintel]

And shotguns never really been something people cared about dying to until CoD anyways.

[scenic badger]

shotguns are in an okay place right now other than the fact that 12M shouldn't be able to 1 hit kill... they fucked it up with the pellet update

[eager spire]

I don't agree. I'd rather have more varied and effective SMG's.

[fresh lintel]

Because in UT people fucking congratulated you if you managed to Instagib them every time flawlessly with a Flak Cannon.

[arctic grove]

The maps have to be big period, there are 128 people running around it after all, by default that puts shotguns in a challenged place, how is that the map designs fault

[acoustic seal]

the problem right now is that they're big and empty, not even necessarily that they're big

[eager spire]

because shotguns in arena shooters are different than shotguns in CoD or Battlefield.

Because you don't typically kill people in one shot with them.

[arctic grove]

A lot of the maps feature objectives that are generally “cqb” if you will tho, so at least objective design makes them applicable

[hybrid totem]

Do shotguns not have slug rounds in this game?

[inner roost]

Well yeah that's your preference, however most people prob wouldn't be okay with an entire class of weapons being absent from BF, people already complained with the 2042 weapon variety as it was

[inner roost]

They do have slugs, and flechette

[fresh lintel]

Still, getting in close was not an easy feat since EVERYONE moved fast.

CoD has ways to make shotguns braindead though. Like Slugs. And Dead Silence.

[eager spire]

I mean i feel like if the weapon roster was more filled out to compensate then it wouldn't matter that much.

[fresh lintel]

And i'd just start using the Rorsch more or Ghostmaker if they removed shotties tbh

[eager spire]

Yes, but still. Shotguns were more balanced in arena shooters because you weren't using them to get easy kills in close quarters. You were using them to get damage on someone, and it'd take a few shots to actually get them down.

[fresh lintel]

Long range instakill or a CQC instakill

[arctic grove]

I think it would, it’s still an entire type of guns completely absent, not to forget people complain about the lack of a purely infantry map too

[inner roost]

They won't ever so we don't have to worry about it really

[arctic grove]

Which is when you’d really want shotguns

[hybrid totem]

Wait wait wait wait wait, where is znath with his reality argument right now?

[fresh lintel]

Unless they didnt have armor or shields which then a full hit from a Flak gibbed them regardlwss

[eager spire]

The lack of a purely infantry map is a justified complaint, but having one does not mean that shotguns need to be in the game.

[arctic grove]

Eaten

[arctic grove]

CQB map without shotguns doesn’t sound right tho

And quite frankly it just isn’t, why would you have purely infantry maps without shotguns

[eager spire]

It sounds fine to me.

[inner roost]

Shotguns thrive in CQC, can't imagine a infrantry focused map without them

[fresh lintel]

But regardless, BF maps are quite big and theres rarely a time I see a shotgun become an issue. Especially when I use it.

[eager spire]

SMG's exist.

[inner roost]

Not everyone wants to use an smg

[acoustic seal]

shotguns can be in the game, just please stop making them automatic one hit kills

[fresh lintel]

And shotguns will win against an SMG if you get close.

[eager spire]

Like, why would you want to use a shotgun?

[fresh lintel]

Because theyre fun

[eager spire]

What is the reason. genuinely.

[inner roost]

To get OHKs in CQC

And they're fun

[fresh lintel]

And effective.

[arctic grove]

Apparently this is map designs fault though, in a franchise that’s always generally had big maps that barely accommodate for shotguns anyways

The drum change I understand that one but shotguns eh

[eager spire]

To basically negate any skill difference there could potentially be. Okay.

[fresh lintel]

SMGs might pump out more range but I can get ranged results with a pistol

[hybrid totem]

Give me a shotgun with a drum mag please

[inner roost]

Idk why you think SMG automatically makes you skilled

[hybrid totem]

d a o-12 please

[fresh lintel]

But its not a skill negation?

[arctic grove]

Use shotgoon back

[acoustic seal]

like sniper bodyshots are now, require a % of pellets to hit the head if you really need an OHK for some reason

[eager spire]

because you have to actually aim and get more than one shot on someone to kill them

[fresh lintel]

If you CANNOT utilize your SMGs superior range to win against a shotgun, you lose. You die. Its simple as that.

[arctic grove]

Isn’t that already how it works?

[eager spire]

at that point you're basically playing a game of "Who can notice the other person first?"

[eager spire]

no that's not how it works

[fresh lintel]

Theres no "But skill", you diedm

[inner roost]

Yep, get too close to a shotgun you die

As it should be

[arctic grove]

Theoretically in a game with decent movement you will suprise and see an enemy first and get the kill

So it’s up to noticing someone but also using movement vs them too

[fresh lintel]

Which if you know a shotgunner is coming or is around, holding a door where you can knife someone is just bad player playsm

[crimson basin]

Liz is so good now

[eager spire]

it is negating any skill because in a direct engagement, it doesn't matter how good you are at aiming, if the other person has a shotgun and the ability to move their mouse, they're gonna win, regardless of how bad they are otherwise.

Unless they're just fucking stupid

[inner roost]

Yeah they'll win if you're too close to them, but at a distance you can outgun a shotgun

[eager spire]

and fuck up really badly.

[last willow]

Battlefield is back. The year long beta test is ACTUALLY over THANK GOD

[inner roost]

That's the entire point of the weapon, CQC domination

[eager spire]

what are we counting as a distance here?

[hybrid totem]

Has a shotgun been getting the better of you for some time now?

[fresh lintel]

Okay but if you KNOW they are using a shotgun and you're HOLDING a tight angle as if they were using a normal gun, and you dont DISTANCE yourself: Its simply a bad play. Theres no "No skill" in it from the shotgunner.

[last willow]

69.42 meters

[eager spire]

I think CQC should be dominated by skill.

[inner roost]

What do you want a shotguns effective range to be? Cod distance and make them useless?

[eager spire]

...I'm sorry did you miss the 725 meta in MW19?

Are you blind?

[inner roost]

Which they nerfed?

[eager spire]

it was still meta because Overkill existed?

[fresh lintel]

CoD is an unbalanced shit fest so it doesnt matter

[inner roost]

MW 19 had tons of problem at launch besides the 725 this is a different series bro

[elfin void]

Origin and R9 was worse tbh

[fresh lintel]

Also Mastiffs.

[arctic grove]

MW19 has different balancing anyways

[fresh lintel]

And Snipers.

[arctic grove]

Maps are way smaller

[last willow]

Totally diff game lol

[arctic grove]

typically they are

ye

[hybrid totem]

I've never heard someone so opposed to shotguns being deadly

[last willow]

Shotguns? You mean guns that fire shot?

[elfin void]

As soon as you take COD seriously you'll have a bad time

[fresh lintel]

Theyre not. Theyre opposed to the skill or "Lack thereof" in using one. Which I simply disagree with.

[drowsy shuttle]

No. Shots that gun fire

[eager spire]

There isn't any skill in it at all. You have to fuck up pretty bad to lose a direct engagement with a shotgun.

[fresh lintel]

Since for me, a wins a win. A smart player beats a sweaty "I NEED MY ACCURACY TO BE 30% NO SHOTGUNS ALLOWED"

[last willow]

the only time I cared about that was skill points in BF4 stats

[fresh lintel]

Yeah fucking up would mean me missing a shot, which is easy if the enemy ADADs or is simply out of range as they should be lmao

[inner roost]

Who gives a f about stats in this game it's pure chaos anyways

[last willow]

And my accuracy avg was 29% cause I'm a tank whore

[fresh lintel]

Stats are a good indicator of who a player is

[drowsy shuttle]

Tier 2 throwing knifes... just another 300 more to go for Tier 1

[last willow]

Yes and I loved how BF4 stats were designed

[hybrid totem]

They can be a good indicator

[eager spire]

I mean it's hard to lose a direct engagement when the method of winning with a shotgun is center screen on target and press M1 or left trigger.

[fresh lintel]

Because anyone can claim to be good at the game with a 4KD but it turns out theyre a Sniper. With 0.5 KPM.

[hybrid totem]

How is this different from literally all guns

[last willow]

Or someone that has thousands of hours but all they did was literally screw around

[eager spire]

because most other guns don't kill in one shot, how are you not keeping up with this?

[hybrid totem]

Everything is simple when you simplify it, isn't it?

[eager spire]

Do i have to make a chart?

[fresh lintel]

This game doesnt reward headshots as much as Planetside so IMO the centermass thing doesnt make sense

That and the hitboxes are fucking wonky

[hybrid totem]

Please do

[acoustic seal]

this game doesn't reward headshots because the devs are incompetent

hurr 1.25x smg multiplier because... i said so!

[arctic grove]

It’s not hard to hit heads in this game

[fresh lintel]

But its not rewarding to focus them either.

[eager spire]

"We feel that SMG's should not reward accuracy versus other weapon types"

[acoustic seal]

pain

[fresh lintel]

Even that I find stupid lmao

[arctic grove]

SMGs absolutely do not need high RPM plus a decent headshot damage modifier, so many kills I’ve got with ARs were headshots just cause how fucky it is, when enemies move they get unfortunate and oops I put a bullet in their head

[last willow]

true

[buoyant trail]

I just use my trusty mtar

[fresh lintel]

I mean SMGs have some ridiculous range too, ive won engagements against M5 and SFAR users with a CQC ammo MP9.

[last willow]

But but... BF4 MTAR...

Need the ACE23 back

I beg them

[inner roost]

PP29 rn is dominating

[buoyant trail]

Bulldog pls. Just so i can use it once

[eager spire]

This was literally only done because of the K30.

[acoustic seal]

you'll never guess what showed up in the patch notes when they implemented 1.25x smg

[fresh lintel]

K30 still melts

[inner roost]

Was it in battlefield 3?

[eager spire]

They tried to nerf the K30, it didn't work, they can't nerf it without removing it's defining characteristic, so they just nerfed all SMG's.

[scenic badger]

SMGs need 1.50x hs modifier imo, 1.25x is simply too little

[fresh lintel]

They could yknow.. Make the damage drop off harsherm

Right?

[last willow]

but sales

lol jk

[eager spire]

This was literally in the patch notes. A DICE developer wrote this.

[arctic grove]

MW2s vector is okay only cause the recoil is all over the place

[fresh lintel]

Its a cool looking weapon and I love it but holy fucj its IN EVERY GAME

[eager spire]

I don't know who at DICE did that, but someone did.

[inner roost]

Strong in every game it's kind of crazy

[arctic grove]

So much so I don’t bother to touch it

[eager spire]

I think it was Alex.

[last willow]

damn it alex

[eager spire]

Before working on Battlefield, you know what he was working on? Arma.

So he doesn't really know much about gunplay in a fast paced game, considering he worked on what is basically VRChat for Milsim larpers.

[arctic grove]

Yeah I know, I think it made sense for the K30 since it’s not difficult to hit heads when your target is just moving, but the change for all of them wasn’t necessary

[fresh lintel]

Individual HSM stats would be nicem

[arctic grove]

Maybe could have just made it a pea shooter after 10 meters

[eager spire]

THEY DID

[fresh lintel]

IT STILL MELTS

[eager spire]

BUT IT TAKES AGES TO DO SO

[fresh lintel]

A WHOLE CLIP OR NOT I'M STILL SHREDDING M5 USERS

[eager spire]

BECAUSE YOU HAVE 1200 RPM

[acoustic seal]

half the bullets disappear into the no-reg void, that's the balancing mechanic

[fresh lintel]

THEY HAVE A FUCKING ASSAULT RIFLE

😤😤😤😤

[eager spire]

YOU HAVE THE HIGHEST FIRE RATE IN THE GAME

[fresh lintel]

I SHOULDNT WIN AN ENGAGEMENT PAST 15 WITH IT

IT DOESNT MATTER HOW FAST THE PEASHOOTER SHOOTS

HE HAS AN ASSAULT RIFLE

[eager spire]

frankly that just sounds like a skill issue on their part at this point

[fresh lintel]

ITS LIKE BRINGING A BB GUN TO AN OPEN BATTLEFIELD

I mean it kinda is its console

But still

Lmao

[acoustic seal]

man, this game needs to be remade from scratch

weapon balance, maps, all of it

[arctic grove]

What do you think of reworked breakaway?

[last willow]

definitely better than before

[fresh lintel]

Itll probably get a new game first tbh

[last willow]

I would only ever fight in A sector in the old map

[fresh lintel]

And yeah, its genuinely more fun to play on

[acoustic seal]

better than it was, doesn't solve the fundamental issue of too many angles to check all the time

[last willow]

Getting anywhere else took days to get to

[arctic grove]

I personally feel like the TTK makes all the angles a bit more bearable, at least when it comes to having played mw2 so much where it’s 900 angles and blink of an eye TTK sometimes

[fresh lintel]

Too much angles? I can see it. But its kinda been an issue with BF games since 3

[last willow]

I'm prepared to be surprised with a reworked 2142 map in the near future...

[arctic grove]

That plus the movement

[last willow]

Suez Canal, Camp of Gibraltar, Liberation of Lipzieg, mmmmmmm

2142 = amazing

[acoustic seal]

the best map rework ideas i've seen have been ones where all the playable area around the edges had been scribbled out in paint

[fresh lintel]

More Canadian maps please 👉👈

[arctic grove]

We will be going to South Africa soon

If the leak holds up

[scenic badger]

any masochists using the MTAR lately, do you guys use full auto with its terrible U shaped recoil or do you opt for burstfire

[fresh lintel]

Yes - Another Canadian >:c

[arctic grove]

The only thing worst than vault weapons is high rpm vault weapons

[scenic badger]

the A91 is useable, the MTAR is just... ugh

[zenith void]

is 2042 down or something

i cant connect

[fresh lintel]

MTAR fucking claps its just A91 can be used at range

[spiral folio]

I had some condor spammer really mad at me by the end of that match

he'd ignore my whole team and go to where I was

[fresh lintel]

I love when people do that

Salty little bastards 🤭

[arctic grove]

Imagine seeing the flying tank target you individually

[spiral folio]

one time he tried to ram me while i was parachuting and I changed directions suddenly and he rams the wall (renewal)

[arctic grove]

LOL

[spiral folio]

like fullface rams the wall in fly mode

[fresh lintel]

Jesus christ lmao

[scenic badger]

i'd be completely fine with this janky MTAR if they just added underbarrel grenades

[fresh lintel]

Or fixed the screen tilt

[drowsy shuttle]

Btw we should ve able to ram people with sundance.. flying low at high speed and BAM. Tango down.

[spiral folio]

underbarrel dual m1911's

[fresh lintel]

Let me impale them with my body

[scenic badger]

i think she used to?

[drowsy shuttle]

Doing a superman move

[fresh lintel]

Lmao

[lunar finch]

@ebon pilot hi

[ebon pilot]

hi

[hybrid totem]

What with all the remakes of old video games recently, I don't understand why we can't just have a bad company 2 remake

[lunar finch]

what a small game

[hybrid totem]

Or shit even a battlefield 3 remake it's 15 years old at least

[eager spire]

because DICE doesn't know why people liked Bad Company 2

[spiral folio]

how would bf3 remade be different from 2042

near future modern weapons?

ahhhh.. sounds like the same exact thing

[last willow]

It was gritty like 3

[spiral folio]

bad company was literally just bf3 "with jerky guys"

[lunar finch]

bad company 2... gritty? that game was so cartoony

[eager spire]

Bad Company 2 did not have prone. They deliberately left out prone to encourage more active gameplay.

[last willow]

I meant playstyle

[eager spire]

And i think that is pretty based of them

[spiral folio]

no prone, what year is it

[last willow]

It was diff for sure but it worked

[spiral folio]

2000-halo

[fresh lintel]

I'm surprised they havent removed prone again

[eager spire]

2010

[spiral folio]

even CoD2 had prone 20000000 years ago

[fresh lintel]

CoD doesnt need if

Yet it has it

[eager spire]

yeah. But like i said, according to DICE, they wanted to promote more active gameplay.

So it's not in Bad Company 2.

[spiral folio]

cod2 not the new-age enya playing spray and pray modern ones

[remote kiln]

i found the stranded rework

[fresh lintel]

CoD 2 made sense and can be excused. Same with WaW

[zenith void]

i love how you can manually adjust ui colors

[spiral folio]

waw was a shadow compared to cod2

[zenith void]

who doesnt want a yellow hud

[fresh lintel]

But gore 🥰

[spiral folio]

none of my cod2 group went to MW or WaW

[lunar finch]

i mean u dont need to prone to play like a bitch

[spiral folio]

that's basically how activision killed its fanbase

and then joined blizzard for maximum hurdur

[fresh lintel]

I was a Blackops 2 And MW2 girl, after that and before those CoD didnt exist to me

[spiral folio]

sprinkle in some tencent and i've never looked back

[arctic grove]

but, infamous CoD

[fresh lintel]

Since I was playing Halo, Starcraft or UT

[spiral folio]

nobody fondly remembers waw the dog shooting sim

people might go "aw man modern blabla was great" but nobody's ALL ABOUT waw

it was just mediocre

[eager spire]

yeah but removing prone allowed for less potential to play like a bitch

and i appreciate that

[fresh lintel]

looks at Act Mans videos

[spiral folio]

removing prone would be moronic

[fresh lintel]

About that

[spiral folio]

be more aware

prone isnt a great position to be in anyway

[hybrid totem]

Ok what's wrong with enya now?

[wise zodiac]

Disagree.

[fresh lintel]

No but it catches people off guard and it fucks with the hitbox too much

[spiral folio]

prone immobilizes you in exchange for accuracy

[lunar finch]

fair enough

im only fine with proning if u can drop shot tbh

[eager spire]

like if more measures could be taken to prevent people from playing like bitches then that would be a great step forward for FPS games

[wise zodiac]

@ripe hedge

[eager spire]

which is what we really need these days

[fresh lintel]

Drop shotting was a mistake

[spiral folio]

dont ping alex he...

died

[eager spire]

he died in the war. or died after they reverted the drum mag nerf, either one.

[wise zodiac]

Oh did he now?

[spiral folio]

yea

he was looking for the 10th floor arbys

[wise zodiac]

I guess he can't get his Jarritos.

[spiral folio]

slipped on a slippery when wet sign

hit his head on another

[wise zodiac]

So he slipped on the sign or slipped on the floor?

[spiral folio]

the sign

[fresh lintel]

Yes

[spiral folio]

those things are deadly

[wise zodiac]

So the sign was on the floor? Not set up?

And he stepped on it?

[fresh lintel]

I blame the Goblins

[spiral folio]

he stepped on the sign, rode it comically like a surfboard down a flight of stairs, flew into the air, hit his head on a 2nd slippery when wet sign

[wise zodiac]

And slipped? And then hit his head, I'm assuming his neck, on a sign that was set up?

[fresh lintel]

The ceiling is slippery wet watch out

[spiral folio]

by coincidence a hard rock band was there and somebody at the same time he was airborne did a power cord

yea back of his head on 2nd sign

its tragic I can't believe you're making me explain it in such detail

[wise zodiac]

Damn, I didn't know Alex was in Tony Hawk Pro Skater.

[spiral folio]

nah maybe if he was this could have been avoided

[wise zodiac]

If he's dead, how is he reacting? You sure he isn't in a chair like Stephen Hawking and is just paralyzed?

[spiral folio]

must be his wife and 2.5 kids using his account or maybe beyond the grave

[wise zodiac]

He has a HALF KID?!

[spiral folio]

most people do

on average

[eager spire]

what do you mean

[wise zodiac]

How is it half a kid?

[fresh lintel]

Because its half squid

[wise zodiac]

Split down the middle like a hotdog? Or in half like a hamburger?

[spiral folio]

that statistic where like families on average have 2.5 kids? you've never heard that one?

[eager spire]

no

[fresh lintel]

Yes-

Half like borgar

[wise zodiac]

I dont have half a kid. I have a whole kid.

[eager spire]

do you? have you checked?

[fresh lintel]

This family has two fur babies, one of them being a Gremlin Sasser and the other one is just dumb

[spiral folio]

ad starts "oh no... " -runs inside-
-opens drawer-
"it's not there it's not there" "what's not there"
"my magic trick"
"THE SAW ONE?!"
-runs to sons room-

[eager spire]

the other one is trying their best

[wise zodiac]

Yeah. She just walked right past me

[spiral folio]

how many halves

[eager spire]

i see

[wise zodiac]

A whole child

[spiral folio]

so two halves

[wise zodiac]

Yes, I believe so.

[spiral folio]

[eager spire]

but yeah, i donno. DICE doesn't know why people liked Bad Company 2, and i think removing prone is one of those reasons.

[sudden matrix]

Is there a setting to switch weapons? I only really see the switch weapons and edit weapon option

[tough folio]

i got purple

[eager spire]

I don't think there's a way to separate those functions.

[sudden matrix]

Thats so dumb imo, did they give a reason as to why the controller mappings were switched?

If you know

[eager spire]

they did that because they had to add a new binding for the Class Gadget slot.

i believe that's the official justification for it

why they felt the need to put like, 3 functions on the same button is a mystery.

[fresh lintel]

I mean you get used to it. It was a bit jarring to get used to at first since RB was the Attachment button and ABYX being the options

Now its hold Y and use dpad..

[sudden matrix]

Should have just left it to the user tbh

[eager spire]

I still think tying together the "Switch Weapon" and "Edit Weapon" functions is not a great idea.

[sudden matrix]

Yeah

[eager spire]

like i'm not a controller user, but having seen this in action, it seems incredibly frustrating to use.

[fresh lintel]

Its certainly not as fast.

Since now I have to hold Y, and move my hand and stop moving completely to switch weapons and its just.m

No snap switching like yoi used to

[sudden matrix]

Also sucks console gets no K&B options

[fresh lintel]

It'd be nice for official MNK support but itd be hard to switch off the 30% Less recoil I imagine

That and people use XIM anyways.

[eager spire]

Consoles should get official KBM support.

[fresh lintel]

I agree.

[eager spire]

Not having it in the year 2023 is stupid.

[fresh lintel]

So long as they hammer down on XIMs and shit.

[eager spire]

If consoles supported it natively, there wouldn't be a reason to use XIMs.

[fresh lintel]

Since XIMs still provide the benefits of controller. As in Aim Assist from what I hear.

[eager spire]

because that's the entire reason XIMs exist

yeah well that's cheating

i'm saying there'd be less of a point to using one legitimately.

[fresh lintel]

Yeah its why I fucking report XIM users lmao

But I do agree, more support less XIM

[sudden matrix]

At least it isn't as bad as OW, stuck at 60 fov and again no K&B

[fresh lintel]

Even I want to use a MNK because my controllers keep breaking at the thumb sticks

[eager spire]

Controllers make me sad. they're expensive as fuck and yet they're always gonna break or wear down eventually and you gotta replace 'em

i had a friend buy an Xbox One Elite controller, the one with the paddles, and it broke on them within MONTHS of active use.

they mostly played Forza with it.

[fresh lintel]

I cant get Official Xbox one controllers since my local Microplay only sells Elites and S-X ones

I got these third party ones that are Colored see through plastic

Like old game boys

Albeit I wish they lasted longer since theyre wired too and I fucking love the Transluscent colored plastic

[arctic grove]

yes

[arctic grove]

I have a launch ps5 and my controllers are pretty shite with the stick drift. Although on one it strangely went away… for now

[hybrid totem]

I would love it if consoles got official kbm support. Maybe then it would get actual key rebinding support

[arctic grove]

That’s fucked, I heard they aren’t very good controllers, was reading some reviews online

[fresh lintel]

My original Xbone controller was actually fine for a whole year of use. It was used too.

[eager spire]

stick drift is cringe. hall effect sticks have existed since the fucking Sega Dreamcast controller and it's not a standard?

[fresh lintel]

But it stopped connecting to my xbox

[arctic grove]

2042s infantry gameplay experience would be so much better. It makes 0 sense that the game doesn’t feature console KBM support, and that’s not even the worst part. There’s no adaptive triggers. The thing the controller launched with

[fresh lintel]

It refuses to connect at all.

And my N64 had less drift than my switch and Third parties.

And I abused that controller.

[hybrid totem]

I'm talking more console side. I mean for fuck sake, Xbox is manufactured by Microsoft

[arctic grove]

Ah I hear you

[eager spire]

Older controllers are fucking tanks and i mean it

Dreamcast and Gamecube in particular

[winged blade]

The original Xbox controller was a beast

Not meant for human hands.

[fresh lintel]

They really are. The Dukes? The Second Xbox controllers? N64 and Gamecubes? They could last eons.

The N64 wasnt meant for human hands and yet I could, or apparently from my mother and family: Dual wield the fucking things and play against myself.

I actually love the N64 controller.

[eager spire]

I haven't used an N64 controller in ages. Gamecube's still the best controller imo

[winged blade]

I played the shit out of Red Faction 2 on the gamecube I was so impressed with the destruction they had in that game

[fresh lintel]

I had one but it was lost due to storage selling everything. Which it was out of my control since I couldnt help me mum pay for it

[winged blade]

And of course Sonic heroes because I was like 14.

[eager spire]

I played Red Faction 2 a lot on the PS2.

[eager spire]

I still have my gamecube, and memory card, but no games, cables, or controllers for it.

I'd like to get some but I just can't afford it rn

[winged blade]

Probaby easier just to emulate those games now

[eager spire]

yeah but i'm lazy

and also i have the actual thing so i wanna play it on the actual thing.

[fossil trench]

The Mtar any good in 2042?

[winged blade]

I heard none of the vault weapons are good in 2042 except the pp-2000 or whatever

[fresh lintel]

I miss my N64 lmao

[fossil trench]

That’s definitely not true

[eager spire]

XM8 is good.

[fresh lintel]

EMR is also busted good

[fossil trench]

Lots are very good

[eager spire]

EMR is broken.

[arctic grove]

The m16a3 is ok

[winged blade]

Sorry I meant the new ones added

not old ones

[eager spire]

It's just that Portal weapons tend to launch in broken or non-functional states because the porting process for these things must be a fucking mess.

[fresh lintel]

I use the MTAR when I just want to shred people in CQC without ammo worries as assault

[eager spire]

and they're not really tested.

[fossil trench]

I love to death the M416

[eager spire]

Sidenote: The M14 EMR currently has a bug where if you have a suppressor on it, you can oneshot people in the head up to 40 meters.

[kindred flint]

do transport pilots that fly around for over a minute not allowing their gunners to get any kills think they are doing gud?

[fossil trench]

Yeah saw that

[eager spire]

If you're wondering why that's a thing, that's a good question, I don't know.

[fossil trench]

I already know why

[eager spire]

why

[fossil trench]

DICE

[winged blade]

It's suppressing their ability to live

[eager spire]

well yeah i know it's cause of DICE

but i wanna know why it happens on a technical level.

[upbeat sand]

Got an image where can I post

[fossil trench]

The stats were probably mixed or something

Happened with mag sizes

In season 2

[eager spire]

I wouldn't think it's supposed to oneshot to the head at all tho

[left badge]

62 melee kills in one game, god i love dozer

[fossil trench]

Could’ve just been overlooked then

Probably set a wrong value and didn’t notice

[eager spire]

someone at DICE wasn't doing their job.

[fresh lintel]

I envy anyone who can actually get dozer shield to register

[fossil trench]

Indie studio. What do you expect

Do med pens refill with ammo?

[winged blade]

I feel like medic crates are kinda useless. I figured it'd be cool giving out ammo and health as Angel but the situation where people actually sit and heal up is rare.

[fossil trench]

Ah gotcha

[eager spire]

yeah because this game is generally faster paced.

so people generally wanna keep moving

you know

i feel like medic should've gotten med pouches that worked like BF4's.

[fresh lintel]

Wonder how we could make Healing crates more mobile.

[winged blade]

Yep.

[eager spire]

replacing them with pouches

[fossil trench]

Healing bot?

[fresh lintel]

Besides playing Falk which is like, second peak medic in games

[hexed mango]

i mean that’s kinda the point of falck, no?

[fresh lintel]

i'm not biased for Planetside 2's medic class

[hexed mango]

cause the inverse is true for falck who has to wait for ammo to recharge

[drowsy shuttle]

Does falck revives faster than angel and irish?

[fresh lintel]

Albeit she can shoot them from safety and use them on her self

Yes

[drowsy shuttle]

Thought so, ok

[eager spire]

I just don't think med crates as they are work in this game.

[hexed mango]

idunno but she always revives to 100hp

[fossil trench]

With full health

[hexed mango]

falck revives kinda broken

cause irish and angel revive with health based on how long you charge the defib for

[drowsy shuttle]

Ah didnt knew that

[hexed mango]

whereas falck can speed and revive to 100hp every time

[fresh lintel]

This is why you shoot at their feet

[winged blade]

Maybe if self-healing was nerfed more people would heal up around the crates? idk.

[hexed mango]

max at 50hp as well

[winged blade]

Would slow gameplay down too

[fresh lintel]

Because Falk needles can be "Picked up" by yourself and allies

Which heals you or them

[hexed mango]

that’s kinda the point of assault only getting 1 med pen

cause they either have to rely on a support to heal or resupply them

[eager spire]

i think self-healing didn't need to be nerfed.

[acoustic seal]

do the zain thing and just give me infinite recharging medpens

too much random chip damage to just have a set amount

[fresh lintel]

Or just main Falk and spam shoot the ground and pray to fuck they stop shooting you.

[acoustic seal]

by the way, infinite recharging airburst is insane

[kindred flint]

lmao fucking nightbird cunts...dudes 47-0 no one shooting at him apparently

[fresh lintel]

If its on console give me a few minutes i'll make sure they're 47-3

[winged blade]

If they reduce medic crate recharge time to something reasonable or at least let us pick it back up to reset the cooldown I could see it being helpful more.

[kindred flint]

im playing lis shooting transports and attack choppers...guess i cant see things that are lasered with that weapon but i doubt my teammates were even doing that considering how many air vehicles were hovering over us

[winged blade]

It's not like buffing it would make it broken.

[fresh lintel]

Dont waste your time shooting at Transports or Choopers. Trust me. You CAN kill the pilots but its not worth it.

You do a laughable amount of damage to Hinds/Condors, and it takes two years to recharge.

[winged blade]

I heard lis is ruining the game for air players

[kindred flint]

highly doubt that

[eager spire]

Not on her own.

I would imagine the Javelin/Tracer Dart combo is doing that more than anything else.

[fresh lintel]

Maybe they should fly better-

I jest. But right now the only air vehicles affected on console are Littlebirds and Stealths

[winged blade]

I imagine a nerf to tracer dart velocity is coming.

[fresh lintel]

Or if they dont run: The Warhawks? Apaches? Whatever the fuck.

[eager spire]

Probably, and it'd be justified, i think.

[fresh lintel]

And even then, no one really plays Lis on console. And even less use her for AA.

[eager spire]

The Vehicle/Infantry balance in this game has always been bad.

Lis made it worse, and then the Javelin/Tracer Dart thing has made it even worse still.

[fresh lintel]

I feel like Lis is in a good spot. She finishes off damaged near death vehicles who run, or refuse to. And punishes Stealths/Littles

[winged blade]

After the patch are the effects of not everyone carrying M5s noticable?

[eager spire]

I feel like she was already fine. She didn't need the buff.

[fresh lintel]

On PC no

But on console you could barely use herm

[kindred flint]

not that many carried them even when it was open to all specialists

[eager spire]

There is no reason that her missile should go faster than jets.

like, no need for that.

[fresh lintel]

Like you LITERALLY couldnt aim her rocket against a tank.

[kindred flint]

wish i had these mystical lobbies where 3/4 of the team popping rockets off at enemy tanks

[eager spire]

I don't agree

[arctic grove]

[fresh lintel]

Oh her rocket speed? Yeah. She doesnt need the boostm

[eager spire]

like, that seems like a really hard target to miss

[fresh lintel]

No thats the issue

A moving tank was almost impossible to hit

Thats how bad her rocket was

[eager spire]

Tanks don't move that fast.

[solar obsidian]

[fresh lintel]

I KNOW

IT WAS SO AWFUL LMAO

I shit you not you couldnt turn her missile fast enough to hit tanks unless it was out in the wide open and you preaimed the rocket 5 seconds infront of it

[eager spire]

Like, I think Lis as a concept was bad. Infantry with access to TV missiles is a terrible idea for balance.

[fresh lintel]

That and her range didnt need a buff

450 was goodm

[eager spire]

She should've just had a SRAW.

like, that would've been fine, negated the aspects of her design that are unbalanced while still giving her a unique gadget.

[hexed mango]

F-22 has 1 confirmed balloon kill

[eager spire]

and i've talked to professional vehicle players who agree with that sentiment.

yeah but a SRAW would be less unbalanced than a TV missile.

[kindred flint]

side note...i was happy to see you can still force the game not to spawn you with lis + launcher combo

[upbeat sand]

Do the portal classes have voicelines on the menu

[fresh lintel]

Too be fair giving her a SRAW (thats a dumb fire right) would just be boring though.

Albeit slightly unbalanced still since she has infinite use of it.

[hexed mango]

they dont appear in the main menu beanie

[eager spire]

SRAW is a guided rocket.

[fresh lintel]

Oh

[upbeat sand]

No if you click on them then return to the matchmake menu they actually do stand there now

[hexed mango]

interesting, did you do that?

[upbeat sand]

Yep

Also way or someone got an image

[hexed mango]

so then shouldnt you know if they have vos

[upbeat sand]

And Danny on of used some footage of it

[fresh lintel]

I feel like thats just.. Doing the same thing as a TV rocket with the only downside being harder to use at range

Which the TV has too much of

[upbeat sand]

You know how they only play voicelines when you load back in and then say nothing after

[hexed mango]

ah ok

[winged blade]

This game was better when the specialists gave those hilariously zanny oneliners at the end of a match.

/s

[fresh lintel]

They did that?

[upbeat sand]

Honestly I found the animation in the game for the specialists god teir

Like it's so smooth

[hexed mango]

first F22 Air to Air kill ✅

only going up in the world from here

[upbeat sand]

And detailed

[eager spire]

I mean, the problem with the TV missile is that you can use it from behind cover. The SRAW, you can't do that. You have to track the vehicle while the rocket is in the air.

[fresh lintel]

That is a fair point. The issue I see however is that now you get slight mobility and depending how hard the missile tracks: Can be arced over hills.

[upbeat sand]

I like seeing way less makay on the field now

[eager spire]

I mean it can be but doing that with a SRAW would be a gamble since you wouldn't be able to see the target at that point.

[upbeat sand]

That was sickening

[eager spire]

The camera doesn't follow the rocket with the SRAW. You have to track it from where you are standing.

[fresh lintel]

With console it feels that way anyways, the TV moves so fast that you would need to go all the way around and do a U turn with the TV to hit a over hill target.

That and it clips

The damn thing is so buggy lmao

[eager spire]

i don't know, honestly.

[fresh lintel]

Make it like Half Life 2

Make that fucker fast and angry

[eager spire]

but yeah Lis would've been better if she had a SRAW instead of TV missiles. would've been better balanced.

[neat crane]

can you not use thermal scopes to see through smokes>

?

[fresh lintel]

No

[eager spire]

you can see vehicles and equipment through smokes but not people.

[winged blade]

Yeah it had some weird ass bug where if you aimed it at a certain place it would just do a 180 and smack into your face.

[neat crane]

intentional or bug

[eager spire]

Intentional.

[fresh lintel]

I'm curious if it affects all the thermals since you got Heat and IR.

[remote kiln]

it does

[kindred flint]

you can see through environmental smoke, but not smoke nade stuff

[remote kiln]

they cant see through smoke

[fresh lintel]

Lame

[neat crane]

nvm using the thermal scopes then i guess

[eager spire]

It's necessary for balance. It would be fucking annoying if they could see through smoke.

[winged blade]

Smoke would be super useless if everybody could see through it.

[neat crane]

could just add significant drawbacks then?

[kindred flint]

lmao... the classic "i want to game to tell me exactly where to shoot! 🥺 " type of thermal user

[eager spire]

that is the drawback

[fresh lintel]

Eh, frags into the smoke it is as normal. Or HE.

[kindred flint]

3d spotting bullshit is bad enough

[eager spire]

That and slower ADS speed.

Those are the drawbacks.

[fresh lintel]

That and the Scopes are poopy, the reticles suck.

[neat crane]

literally see nobody using it its actually kinda annoying [to not see markers]

[kindred flint]

rao can lock on through smoke too..so you see the outline of the enemy and if they arent moving...shoot there

[remote kiln]

theres no real counterplay, the drawback is that you cant see through smoke

[kindred flint]

you also barely see ammo and medic crates half the time too, players are just dumb

[neat crane]

i just dont see the point of using thermals on small arms

like smgs and ars

[fresh lintel]

ARs just incase.

[pine roost]

guarantees good target visibility

[fresh lintel]

Like the snow map? Thermals is a god send.

[pine roost]

just turns it into kovaaks task

[eager spire]

because you feel like it i guess

[neat crane]

i can see good enough already infact the weird color pallet was a heavy problem for me

[fresh lintel]

Every gun is now 1x Red dot, 3.5x and Thermal 1.25 Thermal (Unless its a DMR/Sniper)

[winged blade]

Dice should increase the fire rate of the TOR.

Make it like 200 RPM

[neat crane]

i feel like smokes are also kind of useless without this

[acoustic seal]

rat detector 9000, you use it to find people sitting on the hill on manifest

[eager spire]

what

[neat crane]

in areas without corridors

[fresh lintel]

Seeing people trying to hide is funny.

Also it fucking negates the sandstorm

[eager spire]

what do you mean

[fresh lintel]

I was on a hill sniping people with the Rorsch and they couldnt see me.

[neat crane]

well i mean why use smokes when you can use incendiary

[fresh lintel]

Smokes put out firem

As in Incen nades are useless.

[neat crane]

true

but they just dont feel useful [in combat situations]

[eager spire]

smokes are generally useful though even if you don't feel like it

[neat crane]

i will definitely use smokes as support for revives but other than that what else can i do with it

[fresh lintel]

I dont use smokes since I like my Mininukes, EMPs, Concussions..

[eager spire]

use them to hide from the people with thermals.

[neat crane]

kid named wall

[pine roost]

smokes are practically mandatory in most maps

[eager spire]

do you see the size of most of these maps hiding behind a wall is not always possible

[neat crane]

basically in this statement smokes are reduced to a niche role

[fresh lintel]

I run solo most of the time so I usually flank or snipe or.. Whatever. So smokes are a detriment to me personally

[neat crane]

because thats all im getting

[eager spire]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

if that's what you think i guess

[fresh lintel]

My smoke is me killing the players

😤

[sudden matrix]

Kinda wish service stars were present in 2042

[last willow]

this

[last willow]

Mastery levels?

Same concept

[hybrid totem]

Smoke is wonderful

[acoustic seal]

i feel like it would be better for my health if i didn't see 200 stars on whatever this game's 08/18 or arty truck or heavy bomber ends up being

[last willow]

I have 173 stars with tanks on BF4

almost 200

[fresh lintel]

I have Auraxi-

[last willow]

147 with IFVs lol

[fresh lintel]

I didnt play BF4, didnt like it.

[last willow]

I got in too deep

[drowsy shuttle]

Conquest its such a snooze fest...

[sudden matrix]

I meant more for gadgets. Would be fun to grind defibs

[last willow]

16 players playing 2142 reclamation right now

what a sight to see

Let's go play lol

[scarlet magnet]

Ok, why the hell is my sound now gone after starting the game

And once again I can't fucking move my mouse up or down nor shoot...

[last willow]

did you update your mouse pad driver?

jk

[winged blade]

I've had that problem too. Try restarting it.

[scarlet magnet]

God I love unfinished Games 😄

[last willow]

I miss N64 cartridges

finished

2042 looks like an n64 game on ps4 lmao

[winged blade]

Slotting a game cartridge was 100% more satisfying than putting in a disk.

PROVE ME WRONG

Plus you didn't have the chance of the disk tray eating your CD.

[last willow]

You're not wrong

no proving to do here

GoldenEye didn't need a year long beta test and only 7 guys worked on it

IMAGINE

[fresh lintel]

And then Perfect Dark happened

[last willow]

MMMMMMMMM

[fresh lintel]

Still one of my favourite games even if playing on Perfect Agent was so fucking tedious

[last willow]

Perfect Masterpiece

[fresh lintel]

Exactly

[scarlet magnet]

Garbage [100]

[last willow]

So we're not playing 2142?

[fresh lintel]

I dont even have a PC anymore lmao

[last willow]

😢

[scarlet magnet]

[fresh lintel]

HDD broke and i'm too poor for a new one or outer

[scarlet magnet]

Don't worry

[fresh lintel]

Puter*

[scarlet magnet]

Only thing you are missing

Is a Trash overpriced game

Smh

[fresh lintel]

Is Planetside 2

[spiral folio]

Make one

[fresh lintel]

And MWO.. Mw5.. CNC..

[scarlet magnet]

?

LuL

[fresh lintel]

That requires me getting yet another job and keeping it

[last willow]

Just work for yourself

[scarlet magnet]

Just don't be poor

EZ

[last willow]

I DJ and do graphic and web design from home

GGEZ

jk jk jk

[spiral folio]

All you need is like
Plates of perfectly flat glass and a way to atomize a metal coating into a perfectly uniform layer

And then some other stuff

Like 3 steps

[azure vapor]

Cry

[fresh lintel]

Ah so.. Make shinies got it

This doesnt confuse my goblin mind

[last willow]

I'm always down to help someone with info with starting a business just let me know!

[desert ether]

Hello, I have an issue that will playing 2042, my CPU goes absolutely ham and gets to extremely high usage and temperatures, anyone know what to do about that?

[upbeat sand]

Quote from someone in the millitary: nothing survives a tow missle

Battlefield:

[acoustic seal]

it's a bug(?) introduced late last year and isn't getting fixed anytime soon

use it to save on your heating bill

[desert ether]

wonderful

[last willow]

It was introduced as the literal launch of the game

lmao

[desert ether]

I just started playing damn

[last willow]

But also like.... what CPU do you have and when was the last time you changed your thermal paste?

[upbeat sand]

best u can do is either upgrade or increase fan speed

[last willow]

All jokes aside let's troubleshoot here...

[upbeat sand]

and thermal paste

what temp does the cpu run at full load?

[last willow]

My CPU never goes above 60 c regardless of what I do but I have an AIO

[desert ether]

I got a I7

[upbeat sand]

i7 gen what

[last willow]

Is it an air cooler on your i7? and how dusty is the inside of your case?

[desert ether]

i7 10000 700k

10th gen

[upbeat sand]

you mean a 10700k?

[desert ether]

yes

[upbeat sand]

how long ago did you install it

[sudden matrix]

The EOD bot can kill people?

[upbeat sand]

yes

[desert ether]

December of 2021

[upbeat sand]

oooh

last time you cleaned

th PC

[sudden matrix]

Lol, controls for it suck tbh, at least on controller

[upbeat sand]

when was the last time u cleaned out the pc

[desert ether]

last december

[last willow]

Time to clean it out my man

[upbeat sand]

what temps do your cpu average?

[last willow]

I'd also replace the thermal paste

[upbeat sand]

yes

[last willow]

Thermal Grizzly Kryonaut 😄

(paste)

[upbeat sand]

Whats the temps on your cpu?

when under full load and idle

[desert ether]

like 60-75 usually on any other game

like that on Tarkov

[upbeat sand]

huh

[desert ether]

sometimes 80

[upbeat sand]

that seems fine

[desert ether]

yeah this game is the only one that made my pc go insane

even squad doesnt overheat it that much

or Arma

[upbeat sand]

yeah 80* aint overheating

[desert ether]

it was 95 when i booted up battlefield

[upbeat sand]

you'll know when its overheating cause thats when your PC starts to get freaky

[scarlet magnet]

And once again this stupid game kjicks me out for the anticheat having issues

[upbeat sand]

jesus

[scarlet magnet]

Glorious

[upbeat sand]

Thanks epic games for your crappy anticheat infesting the industry

[last willow]

Yeah 95 is abnormal

[scarlet magnet]

ilovebattlfeifle

[last willow]

60-75 and even 80 is fine

[scarlet magnet]

Bielefeld2042

[upbeat sand]

nearly 100 is not ok

[last willow]

unless you're my 2012 ASUS RoG G55 laptop

That thing runs at 100cpu and 99gpu when I played BF4 on it for years

[upbeat sand]

i got an i5-9400f and under maximum 2042 load its 75-80

[last willow]

I'm still using that laptop for DJing

My max load is 60c on 2042 and anything else

[scarlet magnet]

Why is there a list of known bugs, just fix them smh

[upbeat sand]

my temp rn is 50

[last willow]

justfixthem.smh