#battlefield-2042

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spiral folio
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But like jumping off a roof and shooting at somebody. Youre just gonna miss is all.

wise heath
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It was nowhere near as fast compared to bf3

wide shore
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Also really no reason to use into burst when the full auto was so good

mossy badge
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That's my favorite Russian gun

spiral folio
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Bullets travel so.. shoot from the roof instead of trying to be an action hero

sharp marten
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As Val is a nice gun too

wide shore
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You must love the BSV then

sharp marten
fervent rose
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fervent rose
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you want it to not be that

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but it is

wide shore
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I sure as hell do. That gun fucks at all ranges

mossy badge
spiral folio
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Yea but thats the thing
Bracing yourself on a roof means more accuracy.

Jumping through the air like an idiot you deserve to die anyway

wide shore
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Shame on you

spiral folio
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You're totally free to shoot while jumping though

gloomy wyvern
wide shore
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That thing has been nerfed twice and is still one of the best guns in the whole game

fervent rose
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"bracing yourself on a roof" just sounds like slow headglitching gameplay

spiral folio
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Well because standing on two feet is stable

sharp marten
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I kinda wish the Glock in 2042 was fully automatic

fervent rose
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jump shooting is fast and fun, requires more skill than abusing headglitches

sharp marten
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Instead of semi

wise heath
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FUCK IFF

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NO

sharp marten
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Who hurt you

wide shore
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They’d have to nerf the damage if they did that. Lmao. That Glock is a shred machine in burst

wise heath
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fuck this shitty game if they ever add that shit

spare quest
sour steeple
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Glock is already best handgun . No need for fullauto there

fervent rose
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we need akimbo full auto glock

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I need two g57's midair

gloomy wyvern
fervent rose
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YEP

sharp marten
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wise heath
wide shore
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I wouldn’t mind some akimbo weapons in BF

sharp marten
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I’m not even attacking you

spiral folio
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It's like how shooting while crouched is more accurate than shooting while standing. Shooting prone is mkre accurate. Bipods are more accurate.

Shooting while moving is less accurate and thus jumping will make you way less accurate.

wide shore
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Maybe not full auto glocks

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But something

fervent rose
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sharp marten
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Why are you so aggressive lmao

sour steeple
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Only akimbo we had was hardline scorpio smg

wide shore
wide shore
sharp marten
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I’d like to see Deagles in this game

spiral folio
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If you jump around off rooftops you might get lucky but theres no logical reason to make shooting while jumping around more accurate

wise heath
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sharp marten
mossy badge
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You can do same thing

spiral folio
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You could try to aim down sights whike jumping which might help

fervent rose
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you can track them and shoot them in midair, you know

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jumping doesnt make you invincible

spiral folio
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But it won't be great

pearl ridge
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You cannot maintain a sight picture while jumping

wide shore
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I don’t really die that often to jump peeking. Usually I kill them then talk shit about how it ain’t COD

sharp marten
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Bro the MTAR is a Beamer

sour steeple
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Ye instead aim better to shoot the guy Who is jumping duh

fervent rose
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You cannot get defib'd back to life after being c5 bombed

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and yet..

pearl ridge
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It's called game balance for fucks sake

sharp marten
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I think it might be one of my faves

spiral folio
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I had a guy a while ago that i would have missed him if he ran off the cliff.

But he jumped before going over the cliff

mossy badge
wide shore
fervent rose
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what

pearl ridge
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Jump peeking is a balance issue.

sharp marten
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You cannot be revived after being crushed by a tank

fervent rose
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no it isnt

sharp marten
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BUT HERE WE ARE

pearl ridge
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For fucks sake are you like. Actually dense.

sharp marten
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Tano man

wide shore
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You cannot be revived if you get hit by any vehicles at all

spiral folio
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You can't reeaally see too well jumping to look over something so i dont really see that as vital

sharp marten
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He’s trolling you dawg

wide shore
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That’s what made the Bolte spam such an annoying thing.

mossy badge
sharp marten
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HES IN YOUR HEAD MAN YOUR DAMN HEAD

fervent rose
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I'm not trolling at all about jump peeking preston

sharp marten
fervent rose
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it's a fun part of fps games

sharp marten
fervent rose
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and part of BF and it should stay that way

spiral folio
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Switch torch from heal to kill when its a bad tank

pearl ridge
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Since fucking when was it a part of BF

sharp marten
crude stump
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ehh id rather have those jump nonsenses removed

pearl ridge
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It wasn't in any of the ones I played

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fervent rose
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^

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someone gets it

spiral folio
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I killed like 8 repair people once from a tower cahse they kept trying to protect this tank

pearl ridge
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Just fucking activate noclip on Garry's Mod and kill enemy spawns if you want to be like that

spiral folio
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Like rocket the tank. They all rush the tank

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Shoot the repairers

spare quest
spiral folio
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Rocket the tank again

fervent rose
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sharp marten
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Lmao

midnight mesa
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anyone notice that they removed the the screen shake you’d get while sprinting after season 1 launched

sour steeple
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Instead of complaining about jumping. Why not git gud simply

wide shore
# pearl ridge Since fucking when was it a part of BF

I’d argue it wasn’t really a part of gaming until recently.

Bunny hopping has been around. I mean they made a returning bunny sniper a character on BF friends.

But jump peeking is kinda a “new” thing in games. Which explains its prevalence in this title.

spiral folio
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They countered bunny hopping and dolphin diving with accuracy penalties

sour steeple
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Bf2 bunny hop dive into prone sim

spiral folio
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I liked bf5s counter to it

pearl ridge
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BFV's sliding is fucking stupid.

sharp marten
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True gamers never sleep they just let themselves go in psychosis

sour steeple
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Was always a thing. Until bf1. Slide aim till they nerfed it to hell

spiral folio
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The whole fall on your back and on your side thing was good

wide shore
midnight mesa
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shit was fun though

fervent rose
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bfv's slide was fucking dope

midnight mesa
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literally

pearl ridge
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Like. It doesn't even slow you down. There are no limitations. You can slide up staircases.

sharp marten
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Yeah bf1 slide was pretty sick

fervent rose
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strafing with the slide back and forth sideways

pearl ridge
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Why the fuck would I want that shit

fervent rose
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god it was good

wide shore
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You can do that in basically any game that lets you slide.

sour steeple
wide shore
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Because stairs are just inclines. They don’t have the hitboxes of each step.

sharp marten
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When are they adding wallrunning and titans to battlefield ?

fervent rose
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oh nvm

spiral folio
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100 years

pearl ridge
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BF1's 'nerfed' sliding is exactly where it needs to be: a perfectly good way to help dive into cover that cannot be spammed by some braindead fucking ROF-shitter.

sour steeple
sharp marten
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God I’d pay so much for that

sharp marten
wide shore
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I’m the opposite. I would pay no money for an advanced movement futuristic battlefield

pearl ridge
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1's movement in general is just great. There's a few things from V I'd add to it, like rolling to break falls and grabbing ledges from a jump, but otherwise it works well

fervent rose
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it really complicates the map design ya @wide shore

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and game flow too

wide shore
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Cold War Battlefield game or bust

pearl ridge
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True cold war.

sharp marten
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You ever get a chance to play titanfall ?

wide shore
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No. It didn’t interest me

fervent rose
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yea its just nothing like battlefield, it would be hard to make it work with large maps

pearl ridge
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Not bloody Vietnam, I'm talking F-15s and Mig-29s going at it over the German countryside while people duke it out on the ground

sharp marten
whole forge
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저한국인이요

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im from korean

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not south korean

radiant prism
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1 felt sluggish to me

wise heath
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I feel like im in a fucking asylum full of demented ridden old people that can do nothing but repeat the same words loop like a broken record

radiant prism
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If i'm perfectly honest

sharp marten
pearl ridge
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1 is very much not sluggish, especially in comparison to what came before it.

radiant prism
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In comparison to V it feels like molasses to me

whole forge
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hey

pearl ridge
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Well yeah that's because V is stupid fast

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Which I don't like.

whole forge
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im not good at english

fervent rose
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bfv isnt "stupid fast" its just not slow

radiant prism
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If you like it slower of course you're gonna say BF1 isn't sluggish

fervent rose
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there are games that make bfv look slow

radiant prism
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Which is valid...just not objectively true

pearl ridge
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We're not fucking Titan Pilots, we don't need to sprint at 40kph

sharp marten
radiant prism
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V is nowhere near that fast lol

pearl ridge
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Well it sure looks like it sometimes.

sharp marten
radiant prism
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Did you max your FOV?

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that might explain it

wide shore
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I remember being able to change my FOV for the first time in BF1

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Good lord I felt like the flash

whole forge
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is there anyone to calling me?

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im noob..

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plz

wise heath
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What do you need help with?

balmy umbra
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Whats the most played modes? Cause I tried a game last night around 1-2 AM and 2 128 player modes were pretty empty

whole forge
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im noob battlefiled2042

wise heath
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I think the game is pretty empty in general during night on weekdays

pearl ridge
whole forge
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i need my teacher

pearl ridge
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I swear to god max ranking gives a passive 20% speed boost.

fervent rose
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no, lightened stock gave you a speed boost

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and good players always used that in bfv

radiant prism
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Also rank 500s are just scary man

wide shore
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I didn’t even get close to max rank in V

radiant prism
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Ask Way

whole forge
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teacher plz

wide shore
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And I played it a lot

radiant prism
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hell I was like rank 320-something

wise heath
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Bfv had other attachments that weren’t scopes?

fervent rose
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them dicking with the ttk for the 2nd time killed my passion for bfv

radiant prism
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Ope nvm 317 apparently

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Anyways

wide shore
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170 for me. With over 570 hours.

radiant prism
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317 at 1,221 hours

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:)

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Yeah 5.0 was wack for sure

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But it got so much better

fervent rose
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5.0 was dope, 5.2 was the wack one

wide shore
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Never went back to pre patch. But it did get better

fervent rose
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fg42 on 5.2 OMEGALUL

radiant prism
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oh wait yeah

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FG-42 was the worst case scenario though

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There were still weapons that weren't awful

wide shore
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You can hear way crying rn

fervent rose
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yea there were like 6 god guns that patch

radiant prism
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But it got so much better

fervent rose
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lewis gun was like playing with aimbot

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but 5.2 still sucked

radiant prism
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FG-42 after all the TTK fuckery got real good

wide shore
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Funny that the madsen was like the only consistent gun in that patch

whole forge
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there's no teacher for me? TT

fervent rose
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teach you what

whole forge
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2042

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im noob now

fervent rose
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play bot games if you are completely new to bf

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otherwise just get in there

whole forge
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IM good at BF1 and IM bad at BF5 and IM noob 2042

remote kiln
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we aren't here to teach you lol

wide shore
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How would we even

fervent rose
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you have to play the game to not be noob

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we cant teach you that

whole forge
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OK sry TT

fervent rose
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we dont have magic powers

whole forge
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THX U

wide shore
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We can help with like. Recommending good loadouts and stuff. But that it really

remote kiln
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not really actually

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well, not yet

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the metas not built for classes and won't be for a few weeks

whole forge
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im from south korea and I can't found discord asian server or korea sever

wide shore
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I suppose. But guns didn’t change much really. Can still recommend an good gun

fervent rose
plain needle
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Guten morgan

fervent rose
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at least the guns

remote kiln
whole forge
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guten tak

remote kiln
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the meta hasn't shifted, because people haven't adapted yet

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but that's not the meta for the update

radiant prism
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Yeah good guns still exist

spiral folio
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There isnt some difference in bf1 and 2042 so wildly insanely different that you'd be good in one and awful in the other. The same point and click applies unless you were a bombet abuser or something

radiant prism
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They didn't change terribly much

wide shore
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AM40 is still based

radiant prism
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Indeed

fervent rose
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am40 is a melter

radiant prism
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recoil is a bit wack

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But damn does it kill quick

plain needle
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Its solid

fervent rose
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it rewards bursting rather than full mag dumping

radiant prism
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Like...the MTAR! :)

fervent rose
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am40 is dope

wide shore
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Maybe I just got good at controlling it. But I could full auto that bad boy at range

fervent rose
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it just gets bad spread on top of the recoil after like 20-25 bullets

radiant prism
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Maybe I've got the wrong attachments

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I'm never good at figuring out meta attachments

plain needle
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Is the mtar solid btw I haven’t been able to get my hands on it

fervent rose
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its whatever

plain needle
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Ugh

fervent rose
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am40 feels much better

plain needle
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Indeed

fervent rose
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very similar guns

radiant prism
plain needle
radiant prism
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I've gotten a lot of high-kill games with it so far

spiral folio
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Drill sgt said when you fire automatic say "die mf die" and thats about as long as your bursts need to be

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It applies pretty well to games too

radiant prism
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Honestly MTAR works best when used like an SMG

plain needle
pearl ridge
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The MTAR is balanced for BF3, which actually, ya know, had recoil in it.

radiant prism
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hipfire is quite nasty with it

fervent rose
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it's not a bad gun, i just hate the reload speed

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compared to am40 standard ammo its slow as hell

plain needle
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Yea, they usually feel a bit slow cus I lowkey need something new to play with and the am40 is a solid pick

remote kiln
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balanced in BF3
that's not because of the recoil, that's cause the game purposely made you miss you half your shots

fervent rose
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bf3 gunplay was not peak fps design, enemy missing their shots making you miss your shots? no thanks

spiral folio
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Bf1 didnt shake your vision at all on full auto so you could spam off shots only stopping for weapon heat

radiant prism
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BF1 just had suppression which was STUPID :)

spiral folio
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2042 visual recoil stuff is pretty close to reality id say

radiant prism
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Alright

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do y'all know that one orange and green pixel camo for the Condor?

spiral folio
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Blends right in with the orange clouds

radiant prism
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Well

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Am I the only one that feels like whenever you hop in one of those you're in for a wild ride?

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I swear every pilot I've met using that skin is built different

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And probably not correctly

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Like they're not bad but man are they insane

spiral folio
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No cause you csnt see the camo color from the spawn screen

radiant prism
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Yeah but once you get in it you can see the camo

spiral folio
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You can see the outside from the inside

radiant prism
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Or when I see them on the enemy team

radiant prism
spiral folio
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If i saw it from there id just get out at next convenience

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The front turret can't i dont think

radiant prism
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I usually end up on the miniguns anyways lol

spiral folio
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But you can figure the camo color out by being 4" off the ground all the time

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If youre clipping light poles...
Might be an orange camo
If you're hitting traffic cones..
Definitely orange

radiant prism
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lmao

sharp marten
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Bring back suppression I want to be rewarded big boy points for shooting at someone

radiant prism
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die

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leave

sharp marten
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I’m sorry I’m jk gecc I swear

pastel loom
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the screen never blurs when being shot at??

arctic grove
sharp marten
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I want free bird blasting in my ear when I surprise the enemy as well

radiant prism
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What, you don't already?

little zealot
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Radio on always

sour steeple
sharp marten
sharp marten
turbid drum
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Yo devs idk what magic you sprinkled on the last patch but overall the game feels very solid now 👌

radiant prism
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Sparkles bitchdust Sparkles

cosmic sequoia
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Damn the game actually feels so good now

vocal zenith
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oo hell yea just sniped a bid for a rtx 3080 for 473 bucks lol

cosmic sequoia
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Nice

vocal zenith
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when u place a bid for the last minuite lol

little zealot
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They just need to give us some longer games

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20 mins is too casual for me

cosmic sequoia
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Fr

little zealot
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I need 1.5 hr long matches

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Or like 2500 ticket count

cosmic sequoia
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Good battlefield 5 matches lasted like double

vocal zenith
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that seems like a long time

fervent rose
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bfv long matches were ~30

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ish

little zealot
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Wack

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Too casual.

cosmic sequoia
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Could’ve sworn I played a few that were longer than that

vocal zenith
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keep in mind were not a milsim game lol

cosmic sequoia
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I’m just glad the game is playable now

little zealot
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20 min game, 5 mins end of round screens, 30 sec timer to load into a new game.

fervent rose
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maybe in some specific modes hemp, but a lot of bfv games were 20-30 for me

vocal zenith
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also i think in the future i can imagine dice introduing a new feature like persistant battlefiled where the battle is always going, something akin to planetside 2

cosmic sequoia
little zealot
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They need to throw me into another match immediately

radiant prism
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Would be cool, but hard to implement

cosmic sequoia
little zealot
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So much extra fluff time after a match

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Like the way call of duty does it

fervent rose
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Yeah the downtime is excessive

cosmic sequoia
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Game ends. End of round shit for like 2 minutes, 30 second timer. Then the 5 minutes of loading into a new game with 2 minutes being cutscenes

little zealot
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Its like they designed this end of round thing for people to take a whole bathroom break for number 2

cosmic sequoia
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LOL

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Literally

little zealot
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P O O P

cosmic sequoia
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Like I need a 10 minute break after a 20 minute match

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Like cmon

acoustic seal
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50 minute bf1 war pigeons games Joy_Stroke

radiant prism
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War Pigeons either lasted 5 minutes or 50 lol

wise heath
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I swear when bf1 first came out each single match lasted like an hour

radiant prism
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That mode was so much fun when it was a good match

wise heath
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You could be close

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It would be the last pigeon

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And some guy shoots in the air

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and gotta do it all over again

little zealot
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Also does match making do like skill based balancing

wise heath
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it was fun tho

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pretty sure not

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it’s servers

fervent rose
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@little zealot maybe but probably no

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it seems random enough

little zealot
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Sometimes i swear the entire team has an average of > 10 fingers.

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Or less.

radiant prism
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greater than 10 fingers

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:)

fervent rose
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yea but thats nothing new

little zealot
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Youd think more than 10 fingers would be advantageous

radiant prism
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Sometimes I wonder if my team has W keys on their keyboards

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Or analog sticks on their controllers

fervent rose
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some lobbies are just painful, where your team is "sniping" without hitting targets

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been like that forever

little zealot
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They dont even have a keyboard. Just 1 joy con and a trackpad.

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Or maybe theyre playing with a raching wheel

hexed mango
little zealot
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And or flute

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Have yall seen the guy who plays fps with a flute

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Its very funny.

vocal zenith
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look at mw2

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bf2042 was never a competitive game

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turning it into one is a bad idea

little zealot
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☹️

hexed mango
pastel loom
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bf in general never was one

little zealot
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How about skill INFLUENCED match making 😜

vocal zenith
little zealot
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Bing bong

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Just stop putting me on teams using vehicles as suicide 1 person transports

fervent rose
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bf being random lobbies is a selling point for the game

little zealot
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If i have 5 friends how do we play together?

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Ea: u dont have 5 friends. Stop lying.

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☹️☹️☹️☹️☹️

fervent rose
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You suffer with the terrible squad management system and lack of persistent servers

vocal zenith
little zealot
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U missed the point. You cant play together in large groups.

vocal zenith
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good

fervent rose
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I mean, you can

little zealot
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How do we do that?

vocal zenith
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i was tired of clan stacking

remote kiln
fervent rose
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i see groups larger than 4

vocal zenith
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remeber when the entire enemy team is a clan

remote kiln
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there is a team chat and a team voice comm option

little zealot
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Say you have two squads. How do you do that?

fervent rose
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so clearly people do it

remote kiln
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it's not exactly difficult

little zealot
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Join the same match every time?

sour steeple
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Join game Split squad invite others

little zealot
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Lmfao

remote kiln
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^

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it's literally done every single week dude

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FNB has multiple squads playing with each other

fervent rose
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yea ive seen groups of like 8+ lis players in videos

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just spamming lissiles together

little zealot
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But you have to manually leave then invite

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At the start of the game?

remote kiln
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no you don't need to manually leave

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you literally just join the person

little zealot
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But what if my squad is full?

remote kiln
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then it creates a new squad?

little zealot
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So i have to leave my squad to split join on the odd man/squad out?

remote kiln
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what

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dude are you listening

little zealot
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And then how do i invite the rest of my original squad?

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No im reading.

remote kiln
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you're clearly not listening whatsoever lmao

vocal zenith
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the point is u can join on ur friends

hexed mango
vocal zenith
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it doesnt matter if ur squad is full

remote kiln
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if there are 8 PEOPLE in a group 4 join the first squad, the 5th person JOINS the first 4, that creates a new squad, and the other 3 join the 5th

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its not hard to understand

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and it's not rocket science

hexed mango
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precisely

little zealot
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Ok if i have a fully squad, with 4 people total, and i have another friend alone who wants to play with us, what do i do to get us into a game?

fervent rose
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one of you hits the new squad button and he joins

hexed mango
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you all just won’t be in the same squad, but you can all be in the same squad

fervent rose
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3 and 2

little zealot
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Have solo guy join a game, and we all join on him?

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We need to do this after every 20 min match?

remote kiln
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well yeah dude, cause squads don't have 5 people

arctic grove
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Whelp looks like my application to EA student volunteer got accepted

hexed mango
# fervent rose one of you hits the new squad button and he joins

or in this case, “change squad” which randomly makes you join a diff squad, or you make a party and invite the others into that party once you’re in a different squad, which will then make a new squad

it’s a little confusing due to the lack of good squad management, but very possible

remote kiln
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they never have

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complaining over absolutely nothing

hexed mango
little zealot
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just because something 'never has' doesnt mean it shouldnt. Lol

fervent rose
arctic grove
vocal zenith
little zealot
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It shouldnt be this much work to play with a group greater than 4

hexed mango
remote kiln
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guess what dude there's bigger reasons why squads aren't 5 people outside of your "we have 5 people" reasons

hexed mango
arctic grove
remote kiln
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the world doesn't revolve around you

little zealot
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Whats the reason?

vocal zenith
arctic grove
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To help me with some more exposure to game development

remote kiln
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game balance squad count the fact there's 64 not an even number of people in a team

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do math my guy

fervent rose
#

squad revives, also

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wiping a 5 man squad that has squad revives is just way harder

remote kiln
#

there isn't 70 players in a team, it's a 128 player game, 64/5 =/= a coherent number

vocal zenith
#

squad revives only gives u 25 % health now

little zealot
#

I just wanna be able to easily play with more than 4 people, all on a server
And not have to do invites back and forth each match

fervent rose
#

sort of?

#

doesnt it give you an auto heal now after a second tho

remote kiln
#

you already can stop whining

little zealot
#

Its annoying and make me just not want to play the game. Thats all im sayin

remote kiln
#

it's 2 damn clicks

#

holy christ

vocal zenith
little zealot
#

So no clans in bf? Lol

vocal zenith
remote kiln
#

if right clicking a username and setting up a discord voice comm is so inconvenient I don't know why you're playing a squad game to begin with

#

go play a 32v32 game

fervent rose
#

you can play with large groups in portal, otherwise its best to stick with a group of 4 for the main game

little zealot
#

If there were 64 people that wanted to play together what would happen?

remote kiln
#

??

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why would DICE ever allow that?

#

and they can? literally custom servers?

vocal zenith
little zealot
#

Lol do yall even play the game yo?

remote kiln
#

dude is acting as if platoons didn't exist in battlefield 3

little zealot
#

Or just sit in discord yelling at people with questions

remote kiln
#

think you need to learn your history of this franchise my guy

vocal zenith
#

yes

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i know what u want and it not good for balance

remote kiln
#

guess what clan stacking DID exist in prior games

vocal zenith
#

people clan stacking just to pad their K/D is stupid

remote kiln
#

and it ruined entire fucking servers

solar tinsel
#

yup

fervent rose
#

bfv clan stacking was obnoxious as fuck

#

in NA there was usually 1 breakthrough server and on one side there would be 6 people from the same group usually

solar tinsel
#

I know the 2042 matchmaking system isn't as popular, but it's helped a bunch in reducing the instances of it

remote kiln
#

infact I'll give a little example me and 15 others in battlefield 3 would regularly join games together in 64 players matches, and it was such a snooze fest for us that we stopped doing it

fervent rose
#

even 4 stacking with a solid group turns into a snore

remote kiln
#

and it wasn't fun for our team or our enemies either

vocal zenith
#

i rather have bf 2042 MM than the clan stacking BS in previous games might be fun for the clan playing but for the random enemies on the other side its will basicly be a constant rotation of players leaving and new players joining

solar tinsel
remote kiln
#

we had that much of an impact on the game state that even if we were 600 tickets down, we would still win the game

#

it isn't fair on a server having 4 squads being able to intercommunicate

vocal zenith
#

4 organized players in a squad can already shift a game lol

#

u dont need more than that

little zealot
#

I dont even have a clan. I just wanna play with more than 4 people together on a server without doing extra clicks setup. When the matches are already short. Soo much wasted overhead time setting up getting into a match together.

remote kiln
#

then go create your own server dude

vocal zenith
#

portal exists for a reason lol

remote kiln
#

you have the opportunity to, stop whining over nothing

little zealot
#

Spend 1 hr playing bf2042, at least 25mins total waiting around getting things together.

fervent rose
#

well you must click a few buttons to do that in 2042, and its not going to change

little zealot
#

Wack.

remote kiln
#

what you want to do is have DICE give you a reason to destroy public lobbies

fervent rose
#

they arent adding server browser, and i dont see the squad management changing either

solar tinsel
#

They would need to shift to squad leader only spawning IMO, which has its own problems too

remote kiln
#

5 or 6 man squads is literally impossible

#

it has to be 8 players in a squad

little zealot
#

No i dont want a squad size increase, but i wish they had a more intuitive friend/squad management system

jovial whale
#

Lol ea is a joke it’s Friday bought the game Tuesday and still haven’t got it

solar tinsel
vocal zenith
remote kiln
little zealot
#

Wat?

solar tinsel
remote kiln
#

it's not healthy for matchmaking or the game

little zealot
#

Sometimes if im in a match i cant even invite the last dude in

radiant prism
remote kiln
#

good luck telling the playerbase that if they join a game last, they're never going to have a full squad

fervent rose
#

@little zealot you cant divide 64 by 5 or 6 without a remainder

solar tinsel
#

I still get games in 2042 where I happen to be in a 2 or 3 man squad

jovial whale
remote kiln
#

yeah, but you can still get to 4

radiant prism
little zealot
#

Like you should have the option to lock the spawns on ur vehichle to ur squad

solar tinsel
remote kiln
#

you cannot get to the maximum under any circumstance with 5 or 6 players

solar tinsel
#

then I would just say IF the next game had 5 or 6 man squads

#

you adjust the total player count accodingly

#

For example, make it 120 players

fervent rose
#

yeah, go 80 total and you can have 5 man squads again

jovial whale
spiral folio
#

My money is gone. There is no bread sergei...

remote kiln
#

128 was a pretty odd number to choose anyways from the start, 100 would have been totally fine

radiant prism
#

Well if your bank hasn't deposited it theres your problem lol

solar tinsel
#

We're all talking theoretical/next game here, no way is 2042 changing squad sizes - its insanely unlikely

spiral folio
#

-sad russian violins-

solar tinsel
#

I mean, it's not necessarily odd - just double

jovial whale
solar tinsel
#

but it didnt have to be specifically, I get it

jovial whale
#

The provider

spiral folio
#

Its all bit numbers

pastel loom
radiant prism
vocal zenith
#

4 members per squad and 4 classes seems perfectly fine to me

radiant prism
#

They doubled it back in BF3-BF4 days from 32 to 64

#

why not double it again?

spiral folio
#

7 classes

radiant prism
#

(Or so they thought)

solar tinsel
fervent rose
#

anyone who plays bf knows 64 player can have zerging issues. and they double it OMEGALUL

radiant prism
#

Was it

solar tinsel
#

It was always 64p IIRC. Bad Company excluded

#

BF2 was 64p, for example

radiant prism
#

Not that it really worked

#

But yknow

spiral folio
#

Split sniper from recon medic from support and make a class just for spray and prayers so thst when they tap enter it just says "ptfo!" So they dont have to waste time

radiant prism
#

Gotta try to evolve the franchise somehow

fervent rose
#

it didnt work in the slightest on breakthrough

acoustic seal
#

yum big empty maps, just manifest my shit up

fervent rose
#

128 BT is a joke

radiant prism
#

128BT doesn't exist anymore for that reason

pastel loom
remote kiln
radiant prism
#

(except the recent event which was quite fun IMO)

solar tinsel
#

but Im saying older BF games on PC were 64

remote kiln
#

32 to 64 works fine because the maps are big enough

solar tinsel
#

so it wasnt foreign to the franchise

spiral folio
#

128bt on not-spearhead would work

remote kiln
#

but I don't excuse them for not thinking ahead to the obvious

fervent rose
#

Spearhead 128 BT was mid. it would play much better with 80-100

radiant prism
#

I mean we have the benefit of hindsight now

tired granite
#

bruh 128 on speahead was great

#

at least in my opinion

spiral folio
#

Hourglass or something would do better than spearhead

fervent rose
#

64 players defending one point is just too much

radiant prism
#

Back at launch, 128BT was very one-sided

remote kiln
#

the game didn't need to be out for folk to know, it was already discussed as soon as the game was announced

fervent rose
#

the points arent big enough for 64 defenders

#

it just doesnt make sense

radiant prism
#

Dropping it to 64 did help a lot

solar tinsel
#

I think one mistake was that they thought larger counts (128p) required larger maps - but I don't necessarily think that's needed. Having higher density in open spaces is totally fine too. I think they needed larger CAPTURE ZONE areas, more than anything

spiral folio
#

3 flags per sector for 128p

radiant prism
fervent rose
#

like dont get me wrong you can do some funny shit like get 10 kpm in a tank on 128 spearhead

#

but its dumb imo

solar tinsel
#

and I think "3 small capture points = 1 sector" didn't quite translate as well as they hoped

acoustic seal
radiant prism
#

We have the benefit of hindsight now, they didn't have that and may not have been able to really determine how it would truly play out

solar tinsel
#

because the actual combat spaces to control an area are suitable for like, 10 players

spiral folio
#

10kilometers per minute

solar tinsel
remote kiln
#

hindsight was always the easy excuse

#

it wasnt rocket science to see it was never going to work

radiant prism
#

Doesn't make it any less true

solar tinsel
#

If the zones were larger, it would mean longer cap point fights, but eventually one side woul win

acoustic seal
#

too many bodies to shoot at and too much utility/gadgets to fight through

solar tinsel
#

I'm fine with less frequent caps if the combat in those spaces involves more players

acoustic seal
#

lis missile squads are also a symptom

remote kiln
#

all you had to do was look at the map design, the spawn regions of each map and it was obvious

radiant prism
#

I'm not saying it wasn't inherently a flawed plan

solar tinsel
#

the other alternative could just be simply more capture points outright

radiant prism
#

64 has worked for so long that there's not much point in changing it anymore I don't think

fervent rose
#

you still run into 1 final point with the whole team

radiant prism
#

Trying to go up to 128 proved that

#

64 has been plenty for years now

vocal zenith
#

128 has potential honestly

solar tinsel
radiant prism
remote kiln
#

it's pretty clear whoever came up with sectors has played planetside extensively, but the franchise was never going to be that type of game

radiant prism
#

They tried to evolve the series in a positive way, it didn't work out

#

It happens

vocal zenith
#

they have to keep innovating tho, even if they fail

solar tinsel
#

I think Battlefield needs a 'new generation' of Conquest. Something where there are more roles on a field. It's still a ticket based system, but offer more things to do than flags only. Titan Mode I think is a good example

acoustic seal
remote kiln
acoustic seal
#

makes me lol whenever people bring it up in here

remote kiln
#

it's its own niche of game

solar tinsel
#

Maybe it could be flags + but also give each team a main base that if breached and destroyed, significantly hinders the team, and then maybe give some other smaller objectives that impact the match. So folks can decide what to o

remote kiln
#

you might not like it, but others do

vocal zenith
#

planetside 2 was fun, it has issues but it was fun

acoustic seal
#

it's dead jim, they can't fill a continent and keep closing servers

remote kiln
#

? have you seen the game lately

#

it literally just had a massive content expansion last month

acoustic seal
#

i follow it extensively, new stuff comes out and bumps the player count for a week before it drops to lower than before

fervent rose
#

@solar tinsel i want to see a bf game without conquest so they can make the maps for Frontlines / Breakthrough instead of trying to make it work for both

#

like bc2 focusing on Rush maps

arctic grove
#

3 td day i am trying connect to game and is impossible (xbox). Did EA still have problems with bf 2042?? Tha nx for any tip

remote kiln
#

good, if you follow it extensively you know it's got around 80k players daily

acoustic seal
#

?????????????????

remote kiln
#

and for a game that's been out for over a decade that's pretty damn good

acoustic seal
#

there's 400 per server MAX, where are you getting this?

radiant prism
#

I think 128p could've worked if there were more capture zones. Too big of a capture zone and you get into games of hide and seek trying to clear objs, and have a much harder time defending. The problem was that there was far too much dead space. Look at pre-3.2 breakaway, half the map doesn't have ANY objectives at all. The ice fields and the glacier are just empty. If there were 10+ objectives scattered around the map you might've gotten some pretty interesting and dynamic gameplay that would've effectively spread out those 128 players.

acoustic seal
#

look at fisu or voidwell player counts, or nice.kiwi

vocal zenith
#

there is potential in having huge battle zones, ive even seen it in star citizen during the jump town event where air assets, ground assets like tanks and infantry all work together in trying to secure an area, ive seen huge battles consisting of more than a hundred people

spiral folio
#

They could also do a mode of like 32 players and then add bots to make the game feel bigger

#

Give real players a different icon

acoustic seal
vocal zenith
#

tbf in sc we dont have quick respawns but there is potential here if dice figures it out

fervent rose
#

bots being an always on thing would suck

remote kiln
acoustic seal
#

200 people now, like 600 at peak

#

and thats only because connery is soft closed due to lag and bad continent rotations

remote kiln
#

anyways the population isn't the point, it's that it's managed to sustain itself for this long

#

and considering the state the game has been through 3 publishers, that's a testament, not a downside

acoustic seal
#

it's been on life support since 2015

remote kiln
#

it was literally acquired by a new studio

acoustic seal
#

daybreak is SOE in a trench coat, no they didn't

solar tinsel
#

On an unrelated note, I noticed Irish and Crawford's mastery progression didn't change at all - do you think it's impossible for DICE to change mastery progression parameters for some technical reason? I dont think anything has ever had mastery progression changed

acoustic seal
#

they got divested from sony proper and had to name change

remote kiln
#

dude daybreak got acquired by EG7

#

this is 3 year old news

acoustic seal
#

eg7 is an investment firm, daybreak still develops and publishes their own games

#

they said as much when questioned about the weird directions ps2 keeps taking

remote kiln
#

they are a subsidiary, DG are not their own company anymore

#

and EG7 have given them the financing to continue development

#

you can try and twist it, but that's what happened

acoustic seal
#

they take the money out of everquest and don't even mention ps2's existence on financial reports

remote kiln
#

so what?

acoustic seal
#

there's a 4th construction rework coming because minecrafters are the only people who spend money on the game and everyone else is leaving in droves

#

it's a shambling corpse of a game and not a model of success

remote kiln
#

but it still has a playerbase

#

you might not like it, others do

acoustic seal
#

that's why the daily count keeps going down every month i'm sure

remote kiln
#

it's been stable for months at where it is now

acoustic seal
#

fisu has the receipts

remote kiln
acoustic seal
remote kiln
#

and..?

acoustic seal
#

they immediately lose all those players again by the next month and then keep declining

remote kiln
#

dude, they lose those players and it still stays where it is

#

they literally return

#

that's not a "declining playerbase", that's an active, recurring one

#

you need to look at the 50 other games that model on that same system

#

including this game

acoustic seal
#

if you want 2042 to be the same zombie ps2 is then be my guest

remote kiln
#

I really don't have an opinion about the game in all honesty, you just have an apparent hatred for it

#

they both have their niches, people like this, others like PS2, insert x other niche category

chilly jacinth
#

are we back to judging playerbase numbers by lackluster data

remote kiln
#

apparently

acoustic seal
#

ah yes the developer provided API produces garbage numbers because i said so

remote kiln
#

dude steam numbers aren't API numbers

#

they are tracked by those who open the game

acoustic seal
#

fisu isnt steam numbers, that's every person who logs in as scraped from the player api

remote kiln
#

you linked fisu not me

#

so not sure where this is going

acoustic seal
#

why bring up steam numbers if they don't mean anything then?

remote kiln
#

they do? people you know, take the time to open and play the game?

#

fun fact, 2042 had less players, than PS2 did at one point

acoustic seal
#

by who's numbers?

#

don't say steam

remote kiln
#

..?

#

it's literally the only semi reliable tool that exists to track aggregate numbers?

heady falcon
#

Snipertards get the rope

#

That is all

#

17 and 42
I'M HELPING

#

😔

#

No you're feeding my friend

#

Dude if I'm going positive and I'm lemming into the meat grinder

#

And you're neg when sitting at the extreme edge plinking?

#

We've got an issue

#

I'm absolute DOGSHIT at this game and I can manage to keep up and help push/res

#

Watching the squad I'm forced to play with sit on the edge of the map and miss every shot the entire match makes me want to scream, man

#

And sniping isn't even hard

#

How do they go negative

edgy oriole
#

by getting killed is my guess

gloomy wyvern
acoustic seal
remote kiln
#

it's not your job dude

heady falcon
#

^

#

Steam's standing reviews alone have tarnished it permanently

remote kiln
#

your opinion has no more weight than people who enjoy the game

heady falcon
#

Even if 2042 is actually fun now

remote kiln
#

stop thinking there's some duty to protect it

heady falcon
#

EA/DICE should be sued for the bait and switch between the Tech Test and Release tho

remote kiln
#

you can't sue them for that lol

sharp marten
#

Damn what are we arguing about now?

gloomy wyvern
heady falcon
#

I KNOW

#

😭 😭 😭 😭 😭 😭 😭 😭 😭 😭 😭 😭 😭

#

I could deal with most of the BS from the tech test and beta
But when they added in 3/4's ADS bloom I dropped it

#

Actual nut punch

remote kiln
#

may aswell give it a shot now

#

different game from release

heady falcon
#

I am

#

Rush XL is the most fun I've had in this game since release

#

Most fun I've had since full squads with friends in 3 and 4 in a BF game

sharp marten
#

Yo next bf are we getting 256p lobbies? leo leo

heady falcon
#

I still hate their dumbass operators
But I've got the ones I use most looking generic enough to be acceptable

#

If we're going to keep upping the number just completely rip Planetside at this point

sharp marten
#

I’ve never played planet side but I’ve heard it’s suuuuper buggy

heady falcon
#

Planetside with not gigashit devs on a modern engine f2p would have made EA shitloads of cash

heady falcon
#

Persistent fighting across multiple 10x10 km maps

sharp marten
#

I’d love it if they made it for Xbox tho I’d try it out

heady falcon
#

Its dead now since the devs squandered it slowly over the last decade

willow sky
heady falcon
#

"""Dead""" but nothing like it used to be

sharp marten
#

What’s the possibility of them working on a 3rd game?

heady falcon
heady falcon
#

Haven't heard dick about it since

#

Especially after Planetside Arena flopped lmao

remote kiln
acoustic seal
remote kiln
#

mostly down to Sony not knowing what to do with the game

heady falcon
#

Sony sold it off too

#

And those mongs haven't done much better

pearl ridge
#

The rework of Breakaway, at least on the 64p version, has fundamentally changed it in a pretty good way. Namely, I've noticed that it develops actual frontlines.

heady falcon
#

Hell they added a premium only faction

heady falcon
acoustic seal
#

nso is free and also garbage

heady falcon
#

Planetside 2's double XP income rates are what it should be by default ngl

pearl ridge
#

Like, people are setting up defence positions and holding like it's mini-breakthrough

heady falcon
remote kiln
#

it's free

heady falcon
#

Since when

remote kiln
#

a while now

heady falcon
#

😂 😂 😂 😂 😂 😂

#

Get fucked

#

I remember hearing about a new faction coming and thinking hey that's p cool

sharp marten
acoustic seal
#

nso was considered pay2lose when it was a membership feature

heady falcon
#

Then the other shoe drops that it was member only

#

lmfaoooo

#

God the building system feels so tacked on too

#

And how expensive it appears to be to unlock everything to actually make it useful

#

Never bothered

remote kiln
#

the game simply isn't built for the same type of combat

heady falcon
sharp marten
sharp marten
remote kiln
#

even tanks in the game aren't anywhere near the same as the ones in battlefield

heady falcon
sharp marten
#

So I’m mean hopefully it will come to console but who knows

heady falcon
#

I'm going to play the next test tomorrow

#

Hope it goes well

sharp marten
#

Nice lmk how it goes

edgy oriole
#

i joined their playtest discord and ive been slacking on playing it HYPEROMEGALAUGHING

sharp marten
#

Like it’s been awhile since bf had a actual competitor I guess if you don’t count cod mw2

edgy oriole
#

battlebit is more like squad. imo

sharp marten
#

But mw2 ground war isn’t even that good

heady falcon
#

Remove snipers and its more fun

#

Curious

#

😂

fervent rose
#

mw2 is wack

heady falcon
#

MWII sbmm is spastic though and ruins it if you aren't a literal bot

sharp marten
#

Yeah I’ve seen squad it looks like a awesome game but the devs said it couldn’t run on next gen console but I’ve also seen other arguments that it could

remote kiln
#

SBMM is the single reason I won't buy MW2

fervent rose
#

even if there were no sbmm, the mechanics of mw2 are poop

#

its a bad game

remote kiln
#

as soon as it was announced I stayed clear of it

edgy oriole
#

you not missing much. the amount of maps they released is laughable

heady falcon
#

Game runs like ass on PC half the time too

#

😂

sharp marten
remote kiln
#

I actually really like the combat for mw2

edgy oriole
#

got bored literally first week playing same 3 maps

heady falcon
remote kiln
#

but won't buy it

sharp marten
heady falcon
#

Now its bought off by Tencent and they're beginning to pump paid emotes into it

#

😂

arctic grove
#

ew

remote kiln
# sharp marten Wdym?

long story short squad has gone through 3 rebuilds from scratch, the first iteration tried to compete with Battlefield, and it's why it got so much attention, then they tried changing it to give it its own identity, but then all the original players stopped playing it

sharp marten
#

I really want to try out WW3 when and if it comes to console I’ve heard some bad stuff about it but it’s free so I won’t complain

remote kiln
#

and now it just doesn't function properly so meh

sharp marten
edgy oriole
#

my only gripe with squad is you have to deep search for a good server. then have fun for like a week or 2 until the server owners screw it all up by breaking their own rules.

arctic grove
heady falcon
#

I just play Arma 3 most of the time for """milsim"""

remote kiln
heady falcon
#

@sharp marten Arma Reforger is a p good pvp hardcore shooter

edgy oriole
#

ww3 gunplay is pretty fun. their servers are ass cheeks tho

heady falcon
#

Its got bad reviews due to lack of content on steam and because people still think its supposed to be Arma 4, but what it has is still solid

sharp marten
remote kiln
#

world war 3 is.. ok

#

it works, but I don't think it'll be anything exceptional

heady falcon
#

I'd be wary of Arma on console but how well Reforger runs and looks absolutely blows me away

remote kiln
#

especially for battlefield players

heady falcon
#

Plus Sexbox and PS5 aren't shitty laptop chips

#

So there's a good chance it'll work

edgy oriole
#

they are apart of my.games and they love to hold games back

sharp marten
#

The only thing that holds me back on reforger and I know it has mods and all but I’m just looking for a large modern shooter

#

I’m just not a fan of ww2 or ww1 Vietnam Cold War eras games

#

Once and awhile I’ll hop on HLL with the Homies but that’s about it

remote kiln
#

still cant believe I paid for world war 3, game was somehow more fun back then than now

sharp marten
#

Really?

heady falcon
#

Don't remind me

#

I bought in when it was in the beta for F2P

#

Had fun
And then it just got worse and jankier

remote kiln
#

unfortunate really, had excellent gunplay from the getgo

remote kiln
# sharp marten Really?

yeah so tldr sort of a similar story as squad, ironically, it started out as a semi competent hardcore shooter, but then got dumbed down over time

#

it's now got killstreaks which is where it's at now

sharp marten
#

How bad are the servers?

remote kiln
#

not terrible, but bad as in, dead

dapper narwhal
#

its actually funny that medic actually carries 2 different defibrillators, not 1

edgy oriole
#

they gonna roll back ADS they just said

#

with drum/extendo

true fractal
#

Yes roll back ads ❤️❤️❤️

edgy oriole
#

they said soon so idk when

true fractal
#

Hopefully next tueseday

#

They said very soon

edgy oriole
inner roost
#

I wish they would just hotfix it

true fractal
#

Yes indeeed

lucid goblet
radiant prism
#

Saw that coming

fervent rose
#

definitely not predictable nor a waste of our time

toxic stag
#

we need a CTE

#

clearly

radiant prism
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I mean I think the idea of the change is a good idea

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The execution just wasn’t good

sharp marten
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Like I said Alex was just testing the waters there’s nothing wrong with that

toxic stag
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yes, ext/drum mag needs nerfs but not ads speed lol

radiant prism
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Drum mags do suck IRL

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So

toxic stag
fervent rose
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yea i'm not a beta tester, the game has been out for 15 months

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make smart changes

sharp marten
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I mean I’m pretty ok being a test rat for balance changes would a CTE be good yes but it’s not that bad if they wana test some stuff and if they get a lot of negative feedback they’ll change it

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So far a lot of changes they’ve done I say most of them have been pretty smart

toxic stag
heady falcon
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I honestly don't even notice the change in ADS

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Nevermind that its purely visual

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😂

toxic stag
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CTE would be the best to test this type of stuff if the devs arent sure about changes

dapper night
radiant prism
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There has to be a reason CTE hasn’t come back, right?

fervent rose
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the live servers are the cte

radiant prism
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“Finally” my brother in Christ it’s been 3 days

fervent rose
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EZ money saved

sharp marten
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Tbh I just switched to the extended mag instead of drum but the devs are always WATCHING 👀 so if it gets enough feedback they might to a CTE

radiant prism
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Ext mag was completely fine too

dapper night
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The drum mag shouldn’t been touched in the first place

toxic stag
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DICE seems to be way more communicative now than before, so we'll see i guess

sharp marten
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You’re not wrong man

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If the dev team listens to their community only then will a game truly strive towards being great

fervent rose
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if you want to nerf drums without making them feel shitty to shoot, you change reload speed or weapon draw time

toxic stag
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many ways to nerf them without making them obsolete or annoying to use

dapper night
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By the way funny thing, the anti-class brigade said Classes will kill the playerbase they said, it will dwindle the play count they said. Looking at the steam chart it seems quite the opposite 😂

sharp marten
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Alex rn takenotes

radiant prism
toxic stag
dapper night
limber orbit
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reload speed and draw time makes more sense than recoil and fire rate lmao

toxic stag
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reload speed is already slower than the other mags

radiant prism
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I do think increasing ADS time is a good nerf, but the level to which they did it was way too much

fervent rose
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i dont see why a drum should change the gun's shooting stats

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dont fuck with the "how it feels" part

toxic stag
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the point of the nerf was to reduce "in combat" time, im guessing to make it so you cant just use 1 mag and get a lot of kills, like an LMG could

radiant prism
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Drum mags do have an impact on a guns handling though IRL

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They have so much weight

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Compared to a standard magazine

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They’re big, bulky, and awkward

fervent rose
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yea, draw time

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reload speed

dapper night
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Maybe nerf the draw time speed?

fervent rose
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you dont need to make the shooting part worse

toxic stag
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draw time is also kinda frustrating tbh but it would work better than ads speed for sure

fervent rose
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pulling out a drum glock should take longer than a small gun

radiant prism
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I think ADS speed nerf would be fine! Just not to this extent

fervent rose
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like the Ruby was a fast pullout gun in bfv, it had a niche

toxic stag
dapper night
toxic stag
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50 round mag of a SFAR is not the same as 200 round mag of an Avancys man

radiant prism
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I actually don’t know that I would hate that

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I like when LMGs feel heavier anyways

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I admittedly loved BFV MMGs

toxic stag
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yea but you cant make an AR with a drum mag feel like an LMG, thats just wrong

edgy oriole
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yeah felt nice setting those bad boys up in a window and let it E A T

dapper night
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Is this me or it seems like the engineer’s proficiency can be used when crouch spamming?

radiant prism
fervent rose
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@dapper night true crouch "spamming" makes you a slow target

radiant prism
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I’m talking an extra tenth of a second or two

toxic stag
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that wouldnt be impactful enough to switch from drum mags

radiant prism
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Why not both?

dapper night
radiant prism
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Ok but the MG-42 was fun as hell

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(Except if you sat in a corner or something, fuck those people)

fervent rose
radiant prism
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Aggro MMG for the win

edgy oriole
radiant prism
dapper night
toxic stag
fervent rose
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yea thats not gonna feel good

toxic stag
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draw time makes much more sense, but that wouldnt be enough by itself

sharp marten
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HE REACTED TO MY MESSAGE WHAT DID I TELL YOU HES IN THE GODDAMN WALLSheadspasm headspasm

radiant prism
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Idk specifically how much to do it. My point is maybe very slight

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Oh and also adding the Neopup 20mm grenade launcher would fix the ADS issues yes yes

toxic stag
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^ fix the GL issues on portal maps first though 🥱

sharp marten
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Adding mortars would also help the ADS issue as well

radiant prism
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No not mortars

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Die

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Leave

sharp marten
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YES mortars

fervent rose
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also whats with the 18 grenades on Sfar when you're Assault

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is that intentional OMEGALUL

radiant prism
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What

dapper night
fervent rose
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you get 6 of each type

radiant prism
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Oh shit

fervent rose
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noob tube is packed

toxic stag
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yep that needs nerfing

edgy oriole
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3 extra mags

dapper night
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Especially the Air-burst users and Artillery trucks

edgy oriole
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nades included

radiant prism
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THOOMPTHOOMPTHOOMPTHOOMPTHOOMPTHOOMPTHOOMP

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I didn’t know that was a thing

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That’s funny

fervent rose
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yea +3 nades for any AR underbarrel

dense pier
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Does the k30 drum mag have 3 mags or 2

radiant prism
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1 in the gun and 2 reserve I think

dense pier
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Yess

fervent rose
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150 pool ye

dense pier
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150!

radiant prism
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AK with only 1 reserve lol

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AK drum mag is so stupid

sharp marten
dapper night
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Idk if this a great idea but would changing the class gadget of the Assault to ammo-crate instead of med pen and placing it between C5 and Plates would be a good idea?

dense pier
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Am I the only one that's noticed with the thermal scopes you zoom in before way you ads

dapper night
radiant prism
sharp marten
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There’s going to be mortars and you’re going to like it one way or another grabs bat

toxic stag
radiant prism
fervent rose
edgy oriole
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if ammo crate goes anywhere itll be engineer imo

dapper night
radiant prism
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Same issue

toxic stag