battlefield-2042

[spiral folio]

Just redeploy every time you cant get ammo. Be sure to tell the team

[hybrid totem]

I enjoyed the EOD bot a lot

[prime river]

Ammo box should not take a equipment spot ever

[hexed mango]

ah shit i forgot to use it

and i forgot to use javelin damn

[prime river]

Until they add the get ammo from team button

[plain needle]

Isn’t that what it did in bf1

[eager spire]

but ammo boxes have always taken up an equipment slot

[prime river]

Yeah and it was dumb

[hexed mango]

i was too focused on using the A91 to get the mtar

[plain needle]

Lmao

[drowsy shuttle]

the ghostmaker falls in which weapon category? i mean, do you have any proficiency bonus for using it with a specific class?

[hybrid totem]

It's a really good addition. Love using it to help infantry advance

[hexed mango]

no proficiencies for it

[hybrid totem]

Mini tank

[crimson basin]

They could have also added a gadget wheel

[spiral folio]

Bf5 had ammo depots if you couldnt find a support to melee in the face til they gsve ammo

[prime river]

They literally had a good system in hardline

[solar obsidian]

i loved the ammo starvation in bf5

[prime river]

And it was never used since

[hexed mango]

assault, smg, lmg, sniper are the prof

[drowsy shuttle]

i guess we don't reward skill... :]

[spiral folio]

Bf1 was "i need ammo!!"
"EIN TRINKE MUNISHOON!?" X100

[crimson basin]

I remember bf5 beta, now that was starvation

[ancient peak]

Don’t need proficiency if you have skill 😎

[hexed mango]

they shouldnt give utility a proficiency tho, it’s a stupid category to give a prof

[next onyx]

Don't think it's the matter of that. How do you buff utilities. All of them are widely different guns.

[plain needle]

Skill? LMAO no this is a game for hermits that have the situational awareness of a fucking rock

[drowsy shuttle]

amen

[prime river]

Hardline let you walk up to a support for ammo

[spiral folio]

Id ask like 5 times im bf5 and walk back to the ammo depot at my own pace

[eager spire]

"PLEASE FOR THE LOVE OF FUCKING CHRIST PRESS 4, YOU ARE A SUPPORT PLAYER THIS SHOULD NOT BE HARD."

[jovial whale]

How many gb is bf 2042 pc?

[solar obsidian]

was amazing,

[drowsy shuttle]

5.1 just downloaded

[prime river]

Also we need to have suppression from bf3 back

[eager spire]

no

[ancient peak]

No.

[prime river]

And full on bright flashlights

Yessss

[jovial whale]

I mean the full game first time download

[solid imp]

Yes 🙂

[plain needle]

Cancer

[wild whale]

Kill suppression

[eager spire]

terrible. hate it.

[spiral folio]

I would literally sit in front of supports and melee them in the face til they gave ammo.

My trick in bf1 for the tank hunter was drop an ammo box and then take the tank hunter kit

[wild whale]

Throw it in the bin

[plain needle]

Idk look it up

[drowsy shuttle]

ah.. around 60 i think..

[prime river]

I loved it. I also only used the 240B sooo

[wild whale]

Stop rewarding missing

[prime river]

Yeah

[wild whale]

I know battlefield players struggle to shoot the broadside of a barn

[jovial whale]

Some sites say 60 some 100 some 70, 47….

[jovial whale]

Thnx

[wild whale]

But you shouldnt reward that

[plain needle]

240 is dogshit in this game

[eager spire]

i mean if you can do that you're considered a sweat so

[ripe hedge]

Suppression you say? 👀

[plain needle]

Bro

[eager spire]

alex.

[vocal zenith]

So how's the update?

[ripe hedge]

/jk

[solid imp]

Yes

[eager spire]

okay.

[jovial whale]

They say good but some issues

[eager spire]

mixed bag

[plain needle]

Console players got fucked

[drowsy shuttle]

tastes good.. but i would put more spicy sauce on it

[vocal zenith]

The only complaints I see is the ads of drum mag but I'm fine with that personally

[jovial whale]

Wdym mixed bag if I can ask?

[eager spire]

i mean there are some fine things about it and some very bad things about it.

[sharp marten]

[drowsy shuttle]

same. i don't understand all the moans

[hybrid totem]

People hate change even if they want it

[vocal zenith]

If you want fast ads the plus menu exist for a reason

[prime river]

I had 16k kills with 240 in 3. But they removed extended mags from MMGs so I didn't use it in bf4

Really made me sad

[eager spire]

New controller layout is garbage, they put like 3 functions on one button, there's some bug with the tracer dart, as well as a bug that prevents you from reloading your gun.

[prime river]

Not as sad as FAMAS getting nerfed

[sharp marten]

Tbh no it not it just needs tweaking Cope

[quiet shell]

I feel disgusting, was playing a round of Rush XL on portal on Renewal
The other put on a stellar defense and should've won
But the server would not let us the attackers lose. the reinforcements went down to zero but the game wouldn't end.
It wouldn't let us lose, the server ended the game when we the attackers unfairly won.

[plain needle]

The 240 in this game has so much recoil for no reason, and I tried to use it cus I wanted to feel cool pinning people down with fire, but I can’t literally hit anything past 15m

[knotty charm]

Just a thought but why do supressors decrease dmg they dont irl 😅

[jovial whale]

Ohhhh that’s why u say it’s mixed with good and bad things ohh k thnx for explaining

[eager spire]

yes

[vocal zenith]

Never tried bf 2042 on controller so I have no idea

[prime river]

Yeah. It's funny that the RAAL in this game is fine

[ancient peak]

You had a cap probably which forced it into overtime

[jovial whale]

I think imma just pay €20 can’t risk until Saturday

[elfin void]

How is Rush XL? It sounds like a painful experience

[plain needle]

Cus this ain’t real life and real life logic doesn’t make sense in a video game (fucking stupid I know)

[vocal zenith]

I think irl suppressor can decrease projectile velocity

[eager spire]

it's rush but larger

[elfin void]

Obviously

[drowsy shuttle]

20€ for what? bf?

[prime river]

Meh. There's so many Graphical bugs on this game now. Literally any water texture is flickering

[knotty charm]

True

[fervent rose]

its rush but with 5x too many players

[elfin void]

But theres 2 MCOMs and 64 players defending it? Or is there more MCOMs

[quiet shell]

No we didn't

[sharp marten]

Only 2

[knotty charm]

Thats true but it doesnt change the dmg 😂

[fervent rose]

if you enjoy completely mindless action rush xl is a thing

[elfin void]

Oh dear

[verbal barn]

What class has the Med-Pen now?

[mental cave]

increases velocity

[jovial whale]

Yeah

[mental cave]

more gas pressure

[sharp marten]

Assault

[plain needle]

Ass ault

[verbal barn]

Thx

[drowsy shuttle]

thats a good price. go for it

[elfin void]

Still think they should reconsider the ADS penalty on extended mags

[mental cave]

a suppressor realistically should increase damage

[sharp marten]

🫡

[vocal zenith]

Well irl bullets lower velocity means lower power and penetration since velocity is how u beat armor

[elfin void]

It feels so slow now

[eager spire]

they really should

[plain needle]

On extended mags yea like wtf

[jovial whale]

@drowsy shuttle my game stop in Belgium is moving to a other place I can get it for €7 there for pc but they are going to open Saturday and then is the sale over I think

[sharp marten]

Alex is looking at the feedback so it probably won’t stay that way

[vocal zenith]

Before the Nerf the drum mag is basicly a best in slot so now it's a choice between drum and standard ammo which. Is a good thing

[elfin void]

Drum wasnt really a BIS attachment

[plain needle]

Sfar standard ammo is solid

[eager spire]

BIS?

oh

[elfin void]

Like on the AK, you'd run a 40rnd over the drum cause theres no point in having 10 extra rounds

[eager spire]

okay.

[elfin void]

Best in slot

[vocal zenith]

Best in slot = BIS

[shell ermine]

Ugh, just gave it a short test. Gunplay feels awful now

[elfin void]

Esp since the reload time is so much longer

[jovial whale]

Bro the feeling when the trailer came out for bf 2042 it looked like a cod killer but when it released everything collapsed

[elfin void]

And we all know we die most during reloads

[fresh lintel]

The AK is also just kinda poopy compared to the other options

[jovial whale]

Wanna feel this again

[elfin void]

Disagree

AK is great

[drowsy shuttle]

to be honest before update i think i only used the drum mag on the k30... every other weapon i used standard or extended

[vocal zenith]

Reload doesn't matter with a big magazine that's the point

[eager spire]

i mean AK's always gotten outclassed by the SCAR

[jovial whale]

Ak is insane used it in ps

[knotty charm]

Flesh aint Armor and the cal stays the same so

[elfin void]

The reason the AK is great, is because most people wont ever hit the TTK of guns

[eager spire]

i mean it matters when the actual reload is slower

[fresh lintel]

AK is decent. It literally struggles against the SFAR and AM40 and AC42

[plain needle]

Ak is fucking mid

[prime river]

So does water not flicker for anyone else?

[shell ermine]

Also I think the ADS change is only visual, if I start firing immediately as I hit the ADS button I get the same recoil pattern as if I fire after I've fully ADSed

[jovial whale]

I always played bf 2042 on old gen but now imma play on pc and idk what gun to use at the start lolz

[elfin void]

So many people with 10-15% accuracy. Which means that they hit 3-5 bullets for every 30rnd mag

[mental cave]

depends yea, but a suppressor increases velocity. there isn’t really any downside to a suppressor besides adding more weight to it. realistically a suppressor increases velocity and accuracy

[fresh lintel]

And this is coming from someone who goes for headshots

[prime river]

Like on orbital, the ocean is flickering lmao

[vocal zenith]

Yea but in actual battle you down enough people with the drum mag and clear the area before needing to reload

[fresh lintel]

I have like.. 19% and like 3KD? shrug

[topaz field]

playing on controller complicated now 😦

[eager spire]

if you're good at the game, maybe

[iron thistle]

So they limited repairs on vehicles but theres no vehicle resupply stations ?

[drowsy shuttle]

AK is a very nice range and flank weapon... but facing 1 on 1 (ofc we have to consider several variants like enemy skill, lag compensation etc) will lose most of the fights

[fresh lintel]

But i'm also on console so

[iron thistle]

do they expect me to get out and repair the vehicle just to have a teamate steal it ?

[ancient peak]

Battlefield will never be a COD killer because COD is a completely different game. They only share the fps genre. They attract completely different people.

[iron thistle]

Update is lame

[vocal zenith]

Bruh drum mag can easily down 3 ppl before reloading

[mental cave]

I think if you want a realistic suppressor in a game best way to balance it is to just lower ADS speed when you have a suppressor equipped

[fresh lintel]

PC it'd be higher since I can actually laser beam the recoil.

[eager spire]

what if there are 4 people? 5 people? 6 people, even?

[shell ermine]

I think the ADS change is only visual, if I start firing immediately as I hit the ADS button I get the same recoil pattern as if I fire after I've fully ADSed

[elfin void]

Dont think your platform makes a huge difference when it comes to accuracy. You dont shoot unless you have enemies in your crosshairs.

[vocal zenith]

Then take cover

Don't expect to always win 1 v 6

[fervent ermine]

And hope you have friends.

[jovial whale]

Yeah true good point but still when the trailer came out I was sure that so many cod players would have played bf so much but when the game dropped all the hype wss gone

[elfin void]

You only win a 1v6 if the enemies arent using headsets

And are hard focused on laning

And its hardly winning, its more just picking them off

[prime river]

Yeah. Well the hype will die when dice doesn't listen to it's player base

And had dumb ass ideas that don't make any sense

[fresh lintel]

Just like Planetside I tend to shoot at targets outside of ranges I realistically should because I can.

I mean this by I have infinite fucking ammo. Lmao

[drowsy shuttle]

also is possible to play both. i play both (well not currently cause cod currently state sucks and im waiting for season 2)

[eager spire]

yeah of course but considering the enemies have headsets, even if you take cover and have to reload, the slower reload of the drum mags could potentially be a problem.

[jovial jay]

1v6? This is BF not Siege where you'd sweat over clutch

[prime river]

Yeah. This mfer never played metro
And got through

[jovial jay]

Too many variation of damage to even bother

[elfin void]

Really depends on the scenario. If you're in close proximity of enemies, you're not gonna shoot other enemies that are 100m away. Unless you're stupid I guess

[fresh lintel]

Yeah exactly

[shell ermine]

The MacKay ADS speed nerf with ARs is significant. Kinda ruins the game

[fresh lintel]

I focus on the closest or whatever is a immediate threar

[elfin void]

MacKay was overrated anyway

[tribal zenith]

why tf now after i start the game trough steam the EA origin is also being lauched and is working in the background??

[hard plume]

I neeeed them to add it to portal

[plain needle]

Mackay mains pissed

[elfin void]

Very few people actually properly utilized his skillset

[vocal zenith]

Makay needed the Nerf

[bitter skiff]

Goodmorning, hows the update?

[prime river]

You complaining about 1v6 is like telling us you didn't play metro at all what so ever

[elfin void]

You should try out Zain. He's an absolute goat

[shell ermine]

No he didn't, everyone else needed a buff

[solar obsidian]

thats how most ea games function on steam

[vocal zenith]

That's the worse excuse to a nerf lol

[plain needle]

Ads strafe speed is fucking slow

[vocal zenith]

Endless buffing is just as bad a nerfing

[eager spire]

https://www.reddit.com/r/battlefield2042/comments/10q1fdy/indepth_look_at_the_ads_movement_speed_changes_of/ have this writeup about it

[drowsy shuttle]

was always like that...

[elfin void]

Metro/Locker is braindead and is no indication of skillful handling of a 1v6

[jovial jay]

Man seems like this update is troubling for the gunplay

[elfin void]

If you are prone with an LMG and 6 people run around the corner and you kill them all, thats not really a 1v6

[shell ermine]

Nerfing something because it's popular is just stupid

[prime river]

Pls stop 🤣

[elfin void]

But why did MacKay become popular?

[eager spire]

because he strafes fast while ADS

[plain needle]

Ads strafe speed

[shell ermine]

Because everyone else's ADS speed was like walking through molasses

[eager spire]

also grapplehook go wee

[ancient peak]

Yeah I played both too but MW2 really isn’t doing it for me. I’ll see what S2 has to offer but idk

[elfin void]

I dont have to because anyone with >10 braincells knows that the BF meatgrinder maps require very little skill

[shell ermine]

If other specialists didn't move at a snail's pace the distribution would've been more even

[vocal zenith]

It's not nerfing it's called balancing if everyone is playing a single character then it means it's more powerful than The rest which means it needs to be toned down

[prime river]

Someone is not good to flank it's ok. You already exposed yourself

[eager spire]

yeah, meatgrinder maps are not hard, just annoying.

[shell ermine]

Or maybe everyone else is just too weak and need to be toned up

[vocal zenith]

Same with Sundance when she had 2 grenades

[prime river]

Got. Orion. Didn't use launchers for it. Kinda bored with it

[elfin void]

Flanking is my forte?

[spiral folio]

People make them worse by smoking tunnels

[elfin void]

And flanking isnt hard either?

Its just running around the edge of the map and not get spotted

Put a beacon down and go to town

[fresh lintel]

And or shidding on whoever is trying to stop you

[elfin void]

Shoot unsuspecting enemies and call yourself an aim god

!!

[eager spire]

yeah. honestly meatgrinders are the worst kind of CQB map, it's just a shame that it's the only kind of CQB map DICE knows how to make.

[vocal zenith]

Also makay already has enough advtages his BS grappling hook is already a lot of advantage for bf2042 maps

[elfin void]

BF3 had actual CQB maps

And they were good

[eager spire]

BF3 had a whole DLC of them

[hexed mango]

so in conclusion, mackay moves a bit slower, but faster than before with lmgs?

[vale wadi]

Why is it always manifests?

[slender badger]

Thank you for the update !

[eager spire]

yup

[hexed mango]

interesting

[prime river]

Yeah. They were great. Spas was op

Mp5 was cool

[drowsy shuttle]

according to the guy he still moves faster than everyone else: Mackay is generally slower than before the Update, but still faster than everyone else (like expected)

[eager spire]

And then they never made CQB maps that good ever again.

[vale wadi]

Why am I only getttin freaking manifest

[jovial jay]

Imagine coming to BF expecting competitive pro esport gaming

[jovial whale]

Are there any YouTubers that play bf daily ?

[hexed mango]

yeah obviously. he’s mackay, that’s his passive

[shell ermine]

LMG MacKay will be the new meta since somehow ADS speed with an LMG with a 100 round ammo box is faster than an AR with a 40 round drum

[jovial jay]

This is a game where they stick c4 to jeep and drive around

[prime river]

Bf had competitive gaming.

It was squad rush

And then gamebattles started charging for it

[elfin void]

Enders is the only one I know of, but he's not everyone's cuppa

I can see why, he's very good but he can also be perceived as toxic

[crimson basin]

There is maxiq

[hexed mango]

i mean to be fair, before this update, movement was a lot faster paced than others tittles, so i don’t think the slowing is much of a detriment. but idk i don’t even play mackay that much so idc.

[prime river]

Kek. RussianBadger was in Quantic when this was a thing.

[vocal zenith]

Idk about enders he complaining about the tracer dart and javelin combo like it's op lol

[solid imp]

Movement was same as BF3/4 🙂

[hexed mango]

it is kinda op

[elfin void]

Isnt Maxiq the guy that plays with crossplay off and farms bad players

[solid imp]

Tac sprint of course faster but base speed was identical

[prime river]

Definitely not the same

[fresh lintel]

I didn't know who enders was until a night or two ago

[jovial whale]

Lmao

[elfin void]

Wasnt it faster in beta compared to older games?

[solid imp]

It is

[vocal zenith]

It's a waste of javelin I'm gonna use jav on infantry for memes it's a waste not to use on vehicles

[plain needle]

He’s a cringe ass YouTubed with dogshit opinions

[quick fiber]

nice, first time new breakaway and the lobby crashed

[vale wadi]

Javelin is a true lit moment

[crimson basin]

Boris or Crawford for launcher? I pick boris

[bitter skiff]

f that nerd

[next onyx]

Bfh also had different speeds depending on what you had as well.

[elfin void]

Boris probably. His turret is more useful because it keeps you mobile

[prime river]

What perk gave ads

[elfin void]

Crawford just feels like wasted potential

[crimson basin]

Same

[vocal zenith]

Boris got buffed so yea boris lol

[fresh lintel]

I mean most players who dedicate themselves to being REALLY good at the game can end up like that.

Planetside has alot of them.

[next onyx]

Never thought I'd see Boris recommended.

[tardy meteor]

Is TGM still the best for all around rockets?

[hexed mango]

oh shit i totally forgot to use him as well lol

[elfin void]

I feel Lis would be the better choice if you're a vehicle user.

[vague horizon]

hes the worst operator in the game

[solid imp]

squad sprint

[vocal zenith]

Tgm got buffed hard lol

[elfin void]

And Boris for if you're anti armor

[prime river]

Lol what for real 🤣

[vocal zenith]

650m range now I think for tgm

[prime river]

Was that a hidden bonus?

[fresh lintel]

Cant wait to use Lis on Console and maybe finally hit coptors?

[solid imp]

everyone slept on squad perks lol

[next onyx]

Squad sprint was a squad perk.

[solid imp]

and picking the right ones

[orchid jacinth]

Nothing like watching the 4K video on a 1080p screen

[fresh lintel]

Movement speed Squad perk was too good

[prime river]

We always used them.

[elfin void]

I always ran Combat Medic in BF4 when I played Assault

[next onyx]

Basically you chose a perk and the entire squad got it.

[eager spire]

With experience comes very well formed opinions, and well formed opinions tend to be very strongly held.

[elfin void]

The faster revive was great

[pastel loom]

so 1 and 5 were slower than 3 and 4
surprising

[prime river]

We had squad sprint, squad suppression

[next onyx]

Sprint. Ammo. Flak. Cover and suppression.

[jovial whale]

K guys I’m back on bf 2042 if it’s downloaded back after a year switched from old gen to pc what specialist do I need to use to begin with and what weapon

[next onyx]

Oh and grenade.

[elfin void]

Zain

[solid imp]

yea 1 and 5 movement felt hella clunky to me and DannyOnPC finally informed me why 🤣

[vocal zenith]

Also they removed the throwing knife from engi and support no idea why lol

[eager spire]

I generally ran cover cause i hated suppression.

[jovial jay]

Try out all of them

See which one fit your style

[plain needle]

Stop asking for peoples opinions and make your own informed decision, I said this to you yesterday

[elfin void]

Falck is probably going to be a popular pick

[next onyx]

I didn't realise the slow speeds on bf5 because of the pacing.

[fresh lintel]

Yup. Exactly. I remember saying "Nerf Adrenaline or remove it" because of a Implant combo, where every kill basically fully healed you.

And boy fucking howdy did people get LIVID.

[plain needle]

Play how you want to play

[solid imp]

Tjat

[crimson basin]

I need to get that Zain skin with skull. I just need more boins from bp

[solid imp]

oops... that's fair Way

[next onyx]

Yeah it's funny.

[prime river]

We used ammo, suppression, EXL and sprint lmao

[eager spire]

that just sounds like the Quick Fix perk from CoD

[next onyx]

If the pacing is fast you don't notice the speeds.

Preserverance is so good.

And then when you get hit GOES IN THE MEDPEN.

[solid imp]

So I mean... when people say 2042 is faster they're probably talking about the tac sprint which is completely true.

[fresh lintel]

Adrenaline is 450 HP, every kill gives you 200. A implant was: Headshots give 20% Energy and 200 Shields (everyone has 500 HP and Shields)

[solid imp]

But a lot of times the base movement you're probably using in buildings and such is identical (to 3/4)

[tardy meteor]

is it better than the javelin?

[elfin void]

Maybe they played BF3/4 on 60 FOV and BF2042 at 120 FOV

[crimson basin]

I would say it's also slide cancelling and weird animations

[elfin void]

Then yeah, itll feel way faster

[eager spire]

I see. I have no frame of reference for Planetside, I don't play that game.

[prime river]

Yeah because tac sprint is new

[fresh lintel]

I play on 120 because i'm a quake pro

[solid imp]

true true both FOV and slides

[vocal zenith]

Javelin can still be countered but the tgm cannot since its a TV missile

[elfin void]

120 makes center of screen too small

95 is the sweetspot for me

[solid imp]

Yeah my old AF eyes can't hit those smaller head pixels lol

[eager spire]

I run 110.

i find that that works for me

[crimson basin]

I pick 85 vertical

[plain needle]

“What’s the best specialist and guns to use”

[fresh lintel]

Its basically hard meta for the Main Infantry killing class in a game where 3-4 headshots is death.

The good 3+ KD players will rip someone apart for wanting the Heavy Assault nerfed lmao

[solid imp]

https://tenor.com/view/stop-it-get-some-help-gif-7929301

[eager spire]

I see.

[elfin void]

Its actually Crawford with the VCAR

[plain needle]

It’s literally not a one size fits all thing and I try to tell people this but they’re too fucking braindead to understand

[elfin void]

Time to try Paik

[plain needle]

Have fun she’s kinda dog water now

[elfin void]

She's kinda good for Rush

I imagine

And permanent beacon

[plain needle]

keyword KINDA brother

She used to be good

[drowsy shuttle]

Sundance and ghostmaker is all i need.

[vocal zenith]

Permanent beacon makes me want to play recon lol

[crimson basin]

Smoke, paik, kill, plant.

[rancid sentinel]

[plain needle]

[eager spire]

i mean Paik as a concept shouldn't have been put in the game at all. and then they buffed her for a bit for some reason, and then they nerfed her.

[crimson basin]

Just another idea ripped from apex

[fresh lintel]

Paik having built in wallhacks is.. Something.

[vocal zenith]

Wall hacks in fps lol

[plain needle]

Same with Sundance bro

[vocal zenith]

I mean rainbow had pulse so I guess it works

[fresh lintel]

Plus spotting on damage? You basically dont need the keybind.

[eager spire]

Sundance is more valid of a concept than literally wallhacks

[solid imp]

They nerfed it to a decent spot where it shows the location in blips

(paik)

It was for sure OP at launch

[eager spire]

I will not be taking criticism.

[elfin void]

Im not using the drum on the SCAR until that ADS nerf is reverted

[eager spire]

because there is none.

[plain needle]

Too bad, suncunt is cheese city

[elfin void]

You are dead before you're fully zoomed in

[vocal zenith]

Imagine if we can shoot through walls how op paik will be lol

[fresh lintel]

Yeah its.. balanced in that regard. But trying to hide from Paik or even run is impossible unless you concuss her.

Because you can straight up prefire everyone

[eager spire]

riddle me this batman, how is flying more cheese than literally wallhacks

[solid imp]

It would be cool if she had like a swat-style thermal imaging to pull it closer to reality

[fresh lintel]

Yeah but its the fuuuuuuture

[solid imp]

but as it stands it's better than it was

annoying to confront but in the end not all that much of a hassle

[plain needle]

Because it’s flying and throws off the whole team dynamic and flow, bitch can go literally wherever and just be a one man army

[fresh lintel]

I actually dont even see Paik players at all

[solid imp]

just move around and don't camp when you see that "revealed" show up

[drowsy shuttle]

Everything feels heavier.. i like it

[plain needle]

500ms ads speed lmao

[fresh lintel]

Paik is my first T1 since shes quite literally "Exist"

[crimson basin]

If recon only had sniper, then paik would be pretty much useless.

[fresh lintel]

G57.

[eager spire]

implying a decent player with wallhacks can't also go and be a one man army.

[wild whale]

Mackay maxxing

[solid imp]

🤣 same with Rao though yea? I have Rao at 379 because it's so fast to hit mastery levels

just spot. and spot some more... keep spotting mate

[crimson basin]

Would still be outgunned by k30 and such

[fresh lintel]

I havent played any of the guys besides Dozer. Only to roleplay as a Payday Dozer.

[crimson basin]

Doze with auto shotty

[wild whale]

Nah

Glock got clock

[fresh lintel]

Not on console since one burst kills and G57 out ranges the K30

And I go for headshots even if they literally don't matter as much as Planetside which makes my brain angry

[eager spire]

i mean it's not that way on PC either

[spiral folio]

There's this one guy that went from like always last place to always pretty high ok the list like clearly wallhacks but he still sucks at it. It does help even a bad player but it wont fix em entirely. It just meant he went from like 5-30 to 15-30

[crimson basin]

How is glock with drum btw?

[wild whale]

Hipfire

[vale wadi]

Grum

[wild whale]

Or double tap ads

[eager spire]

glock is the best pistol in the game

[spiral folio]

I saw him once on 2042 never since

[next onyx]

P125 tho.

[eager spire]

like i said, decent player.

[spiral folio]

P125 for me too

[wild whale]

Decent players are one man armies without wallhacks

[prime river]

Does anyone have a bug where the water on maps starts to flicker and flash

[wild whale]

You just dial things up with

[eager spire]

yes but they'd be even more like that with wallhacks

[solid imp]

where did you find water?

[fresh lintel]

Glock straight up one bursts people with headshots. So its better than the Magnum in CQC.

It has stupid RoF so its better than the Pocket P90.

It has absurd range for its status so its better than the NVK and.. The other one.

[prime river]

Orbital, discarded lol

[spiral folio]

P125s extended mag should be 30rds also standard should be 20

[wild whale]

@eager spire agree

[prime river]

The surrounding water flickers and flashes

Don't know if it's a PS5 specific but

Bug for 2042. But fuck it's annoying

[elfin void]

Ok the beacon change is awful also

Especially in a random squad

[solid imp]

I haven't seen the flickering but I'm keeping my eyes open for flying glaciers on reworked Breakaway. If they took away my favorite bug feature imma be upset

[eager spire]

it's funny because they nerfed the SMG's headshot multiplier across the board because "We feel that SMG's should not reward accuracy versus other weapon types", meanwhile the glock is over here like >:)

[stoic ferry]

rainwater sound on parachute too now

[eager spire]

actual quote from the patch notes by the way, Season 2 patch notes, you can look it up.

[prime river]

Are you on PS5?

[solid imp]

PC

[fiery shoal]

oh yea, good luck landing 3 headshots in a single burst to actually make that a consideration

[prime river]

Might not see it then

[fervent rose]

you dont have to do that

[crimson basin]

Glock wasn't always burst was it? I think it's semi auto in bf3.

[prime river]

G17 was semi

[fiery shoal]

to one burst you have to land 2 to the head and 1 to body... good luck

[prime river]

G18 was auto

[fresh lintel]

Yeah I don't get it. Maybe give SMGs harsh damage fall off instead of making the HSM shit?

[prime river]

But m9 also was a 3 tap

[eager spire]

they already did that

[fervent rose]

yea and its a very accurate burst @fiery shoal

[scenic badger]

SMGs have been shit ever since

[eager spire]

they did that in the update before Season 2 came out

[fervent rose]

why would you need good luck to one burst with the g57

[wild whale]

Literally raise their spread

[fervent rose]

it blaps people

[next onyx]

There's other issues with SMGs too but I'd rather not.

[wild whale]

Or spread increase per shot

[rancid sentinel]

Did they removed the healing pen ? can't find it

[eager spire]

but they couldn't nerf the K30 in any way that mattered

[fresh lintel]

Its easier than you think honestly. If you can land mostly headshots with any gun, you can land headshots with the Glock

[eager spire]

it's on Assault

[wild whale]

Instead of adding drop off tier 1-500

[fiery shoal]

95% of people arent consistently doing it, be realistic

[next onyx]

Med pen goes into the arm instantly.

[fiery shoal]

#doubt

[fresh lintel]

shrug

[wild whale]

1 (1) singular medpen

Its a 1 second used time as it should be

[fiery shoal]

i KNOW im better than a vast majority of players, and i cant 1 burst consistently

[prime river]

Did they ever fix the bullshit bullet drop on the .50 sniper yet

[stoic ferry]

ohh some of the ikons on profile card is changed too. did not know

[fervent rose]

nobody said you have to do it every time

[unkempt tartan]

We rocking with update ?

[wild whale]

You can kill people dummy quick either way with it

[scenic badger]

a one burst implies you get 2/3 of the shots as headshots, its not gonna happen a lot

[elfin void]

Instant serotonin boost

[fiery shoal]

kind of irrelevant to talk about the effectiveness of a weapon if youre talking about something that isnt consistent..

[wild whale]

It happens enough that you need to consider it

[fervent rose]

it's not that rare

[fresh lintel]

I'm a 3KD player (not like its an important stat but I dont know the stat websites that are like Voidwell/Fisu for Planetside) with 19% Accuracy

[fiery shoal]

anything going into 2 burst isnt "dummy quick" anymore

[next onyx]

@fiery shoal SCAR.

[fresh lintel]

I can one burst quite a bit

But also MIND YOU: I'm on console atm.

[wild whale]

You can oneburst often

[scenic badger]

basically not gonna 1 burst past 15m or so tho cause it starts to spread

[wild whale]

Or pull a second burst if thats not enough

[fiery shoal]

https://battlefieldtracker.com/

[elfin void]

Switched to the 30rnd as well huh

[fervent rose]

if the target isnt moving a 1 burst isnt that crazy to pull off

[next onyx]

I'm still using drums for a range.

[wild whale]

If you are badass

[elfin void]

Drum feels like you're wielding one of those meme guns from CODMW19 where you put max weight on it so the ADS becomes really slow

[next onyx]

But I do understand the proper use of it.

Yeah.

[wild whale]

Your kd matches your kpm

[spiral folio]

Drum mag for nwt20 next

[fiery shoal]

ehh its a cool bonus

[wild whale]

Consider it this way

[next onyx]

2.50 kpm with a 4 KD.

[elfin void]

Im more annoyed by the spawn beacon self destructing after 4 spawns than the drum mag change though.

[wild whale]

You are casually strolling along on shit map number 31

And then boom! Mid reload 3 guys jump you

[next onyx]

It was like that back in bf5 wieny.

[elfin void]

Imagine placing a cheeky beacon so you can flank properly, only to find out its gone because timmy no-thumbs spawned on it 4 times because he dies within 30s

[wild whale]

You pull out your glock, and you instantly set it to burst (haha remember to set your glock to burst)

[next onyx]

That sounds right about it.

[scenic badger]

that's how beacons have always worked prior tho, iirc

[wild whale]

And you 1 burst 3 guys

Winning the engagmeent

[fiery shoal]

... what a valuable stipulation...

[wild whale]

This is a true story

[spiral folio]

Mini-baby-drum for p125

[fresh lintel]

Okay i'm a 2.82 KD player to be exact

[next onyx]

I would love to set the fire mode of a gun in the menu.

[fiery shoal]

ive used the glock as a primary...

[frail sparrow]

why the fuck isn't there a 24/7 breakaway playlist? 😦 i wanna see ze new map 😄

[fresh lintel]

With a 1.68 KPM? Huh.

[wild whale]

You problem honestly

[next onyx]

Same way as you can set what attachments you have when you first spawn in.

[ember charm]

Just give all guns infinite ammo and no recoil

[next onyx]

Yeah Jer same.

[wild whale]

2kd2kpm gaming

[next onyx]

1.68 kpm not bad!

[fiery shoal]

.. thats not a problem, i was testing to see how good it was..

[eager spire]

they apparently made it so Breakaway comes up more often

[fervent rose]

@fiery shoal what is so different about aiming at the head with the glock compared to the m44/rex

[spiral folio]

A 50rd box of ammo for the 5.7x28 is about the size of a wireless headphones charge case

[next onyx]

I think my zain has a 3.40+ kpm.

[fervent rose]

you point and click and they die

[eager spire]

ok

[spiral folio]

Imagine a tiny drum thst size

[royal trail]

ive played a couple of games, but no breakaway. rip

[fiery shoal]

if youre asking this youre missing the point of the conversation

[fresh lintel]

Now I just need to get a PC and see if those stats are the same or better

[eager spire]

okay, what am i supposed to do with this imagination

[spiral folio]

Pray it comes true

[eager spire]

why

[next onyx]

Damn. My kpm dropped by 0.15 and it's on 3.35 for Zain.

[lilac dust]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ASzOzrB-a9E The first 40 seconds of the Official trailer of Battlefield 2042 are now FALSE ADVERTISING 😏

[next onyx]

100 round 5.7 drum mag.

Look at the tiny little bullets.

[fresh lintel]

3.48 KD with Paik. Jesus christm

I HAVE LESS WITH FALK.

[spiral folio]

Make it a ring shape and your arm goes through it

Scifi

[fresh lintel]

2.16 KPM with Paik 1.76 with Falk

[fiery shoal]

https://battlefieldtracker.com/bf2042/profile/origin/OrangeNyphon/overview

g57 kpm is comparable to most weapons for myself, its the best secondary, but not busted

[fluid spoke]

new update downloaded, anxious but excited to see patch notes

[fresh lintel]

I have a 3.68 KPM with the glock and its the best KPM of my guns

https://battlefieldtracker.com/bf2042/profile/xbl/Faraethil/overview

[wild whale]

Pistol kpm doesnt really matter

It only counts while your gun is out

[fervent rose]

sidearm kpm is not a real stat

[eager spire]

it's the best pistol in the game and it's existence makes the SMG nerf very hard to justify

[fiery shoal]

is that because you used it as a secondary?

[next onyx]

What's my kpm with the scar?

[fresh lintel]

I mean maybe

[crude radish]

Yo, is there a way to disable the red damage markers. It's pretty damn annoying

[wild whale]

About 3.50

[fresh lintel]

I dont use the SFAR all that.much

[jovial whale]

i have buyed bf on ea how long will it take before it appears in my library

[fiery shoal]

because you know.. if you only pull out a weapon for 2 seconds to get 2 kills of course the kpm will be higher...

[fresh lintel]

Its 1.82

[next onyx]

2.59 lol.

[fiery shoal]

hence why i used the g57 as primary when i was testing it

[next onyx]

2.59 for a gun that I have 30k kills with.

[wild whale]

Problem is its not a primary

[next onyx]

Not bad!

[fresh lintel]

But I also tend to pull it out when sniping or usinf a shotgun

[next onyx]

Lemme check my p125 kpm.

[fresh lintel]

To use it as a primary

[wild whale]

You pull it in case scenarios like a pinch

[next onyx]

Cause I mained that.

[wild whale]

Or you want to shit fury on a guy 60m away prone

[fiery shoal]

the problem is that people were saying it was better than primary weapons and/or busted...

[fresh lintel]

Or just shit fury in general.

I mean it is.

[jovial whale]

i have buyed bf on ea how long will it take before it appears in my library

[fresh lintel]

I literally have a better time with a G57 than the AK.

[wild whale]

Remember that scenario I spoke of in a pinch?

You pull that pistol out

[fresh lintel]

And I almost T1'd the AK.

[wild whale]

And you absolutely dump on people

[fiery shoal]

remember how thats not the topic?

[wild whale]

Its very relevant

[fiery shoal]

cool? still not the topic

[next onyx]

3 kpm with my p125 lol.

[wild whale]

Because you can dump on people in a single burst

[next onyx]

3.99 with the s22.

What in the God damn.

[wild whale]

Consistently every single time? No

[fresh lintel]

I'm going to go into a match right now with the glock and use NOTHING but the glock.

[wild whale]

But enough

[fiery shoal]

you can dump on people with any one shot headshot weapon too.. not a really valuable metric to judge a weapon on

[next onyx]

@jovial whale should be instant.

[wild whale]

That its very funny

[spiral folio]

You get two weapons, pick wisely. It doesnt matter if a gun is primary kr secondary as far as how strong it's allowed to be

[wild whale]

Thing is again, sidearm can do it

And it has good hipfire spread

And you get like over 30 rounds with a drum mag

[spiral folio]

No rule says the dog cant play basketball

[jovial whale]

Well it didn’t

[spiral folio]

As long as the dog maintains a C gpa

[fiery shoal]

theres a sidearm that can 1 shot headshot too.. that weapon isnt busted because it CAN do that from time to time or with a bit of luck...

[fresh lintel]

The G57 can one burst faster than someone can pull out the M44, aim for the head and wait for the split second it takes to fire the gun mechanically.

[next onyx]

Weird.

[fresh lintel]

And if the M44 doesnt hit the headshot, they die.

[wild whale]

Big iron

[fresh lintel]

The M44 only has range and raw alpha on the G57M

Nothing more.

[clever marlin]

the m44 is a skill weapon just like the gvt 45-70

[jovial whale]

yeah...

[fresh lintel]

But even a G57 can fuck the M44 up at range

[fiery shoal]

and if you dont land headshots with the g57 youre likely missing shots and adding gaps in your follow up shots to get shot back...

[fresh lintel]

But I can pump out 6 or so shots faster (which is a kill) faster than the M44 can pull the hammer back and fire again

And it takes a full second for the hammer to be pulled. The ONLY time you lose to a M44 is when they get the drop and headshot you

Or you suck.

[fiery shoal]

its like balance, pros and cons, skill floor vs skill ceiling, etc are all consideration in how effective a weapon is

not just some meme take of "but you can 1 burst with it so its good"

[fresh lintel]

Yeah but the issue is: the G57 is BIS.

[fiery shoal]

BIS?

[eager spire]

i mean you can and it's the best pistol in the game.

[fresh lintel]

Or sorry fuck

BEST IN CLASS

IM NOT USINF THE SHORT ANYMORE.

[fiery shoal]

you can and it is the best secondary in game, never said otherwise

[spiral folio]

I usually use the p125 with the 2 round burst on and it tends to work when somebody surprises me

Like 2/3 times

[jovial whale]

Stfu I’m just asking for tips

[fresh lintel]

The NVK pistol can one burst as well and I like it but

[drowsy shuttle]

Did my first game on breakway BT... so far game looks very good.. the rework of breakway looks great, game play feels great.. i like the new small aditions like class icons, new scoreboard etc...so far and for me the game looks awesome. And ghostmaker.. baby oh baby.. how i love that weapon.. its soooo damn good. Thank you, Dice.

[spiral folio]

One burst

[fresh lintel]

It straight up still loses to the G57

[next onyx]

I'd argue the mp412 is the best since it kills the quickest.

[fresh lintel]

Its a 25 damage weapon

[spiral folio]

Oh like 1 burst kill

[fresh lintel]

2 headshots is a kill

Ye

[next onyx]

200 ms ttk.

2hk

Bang bang.

[spiral folio]

My mind went to 1 shot bursts :v

[fresh lintel]

Lmao

[next onyx]

Brain.

[grizzled whale]

the update is out right

[fresh lintel]

Yeah nah when I say one burst I mean it kills in one

[jovial whale]

@next onyx so what do I do

[fresh lintel]

Yes

[eager spire]

it sure is

[grizzled whale]

wasnt sure by looking at steamcharts

[fiery shoal]

which weapon?

[fresh lintel]

But yeah when I use the MP28: I dont get kills

[spiral folio]

Hipfire the p125 can about hit body without a ton of aiming

[fresh lintel]

The NVKP125

[clever marlin]

the mp28 falls in this weird category like the VCAR

[fresh lintel]

Or wait its a 45 damage weapon?

Huh.

[eager spire]

I still don't know why the VCAR is a marksman rifle

[grizzled whale]

Vcar is best in class though

[clever marlin]

it does good damage but it doesnt feel like a pistol

[fresh lintel]

Regardless its a 2 shot headshot

[crimson basin]

2042 dmrs are lame compared to bf1 and 5

[clever marlin]

while the vcar fires 9x19 parabellum but the other rifles fire rifle cartidges

[fresh lintel]

But it blooms like crazy and sucks at range when in burst. While the G57 shreds at range with burst

[eager spire]

not even, the actual gun fires like, .22 lr

[spiral folio]

If the p125 was real I'd buy one long as it didnt have the goofy halo screen and a 20rd mag

[clever marlin]

keltec be like

[spiral folio]

Oh yea the keltec

[warm zealot]

Ok the sprint to fire speed on Assault Rifles is GUTTED OH MY GOD

[fresh lintel]

I'd want a NVK. Bulpup Coilgun Pistol? Yes please.

[spiral folio]

Keltec is like "how can we make a 22 pistol hold 500 rounds hmmmmm"

[warm zealot]

This deserves a second post than just the mag size ADS change

[prime river]

At least DMRs in this game don't have a fire cap

[fresh lintel]

Or the NVK shotgun. Double barrel Quake Super shotgun? Yes fucking please.

[prime river]

NS2000

[spiral folio]

The real one is a hybrid dual-singlestack mag because you cant doublestack .22LR

[long osprey]

are you talking about aiming time when using submachine guns?

[warm zealot]

No it’s with Assault rifles

Try it

[prime river]

What was wrong with them

Seemed fine.

[warm zealot]

There is a HUGE delay now when sprinting and then firing

I actually think it’s the same as LMGs now or WORSE

[long osprey]

héhéhé I FOUND a bug that allows to cancel this

[prime river]

Kek. They should be similar to the SIG M250

[drowsy shuttle]

I think drawing the throwing knifes is a bit smoother and faster...

[prime river]

I like how this game has the m250 and Modern warfare has the Mg338

No fuckin difference other than ammunition

[snow badge]

Am I just ass or is the K30 smg straight up shit

[prime river]

It's shit as fuck

[eager spire]

the latter

[prime river]

Recoil that shouldn't exist because gun design

[fiery shoal]

probably both tbh

[snow badge]

I feel like I lose almost every engagement against another smg or ar

[long osprey]

watch my twitter, yu can watch the gameplay

[prime river]

And a stupid 20 ROUND drum

[snow badge]

Hitmarker machine

[spiral folio]

The nvk shot gun uses soybased biodegradable shells instead of old fashioned plastic shells

[fervent rose]

k30 was insane, now its sad

[fiery shoal]

k30 isnt great, but you shouldnt do much worse just because youre using it

[prime river]

Vector was neutered

It was great in hardline

[snow badge]

The ttk on it is really low and beyond 20 meters it doesn’t do anything

[fiery shoal]

sub 20m it still shreds

[prime river]

Great in both mw1&2 and for some reason it's shit in 2042

[fiery shoal]

well dont use it over 20m...

[snow badge]

Any smg recommendations

[warm zealot]

The double rmb click?

[fervent rose]

its definitely bad compared to a real gun like scar bsvm or ac42

[fiery shoal]

i mean. you self identified the effective range.. now just stick to it

[prime river]

Ak74

[eager spire]

"We feel that SMG's should not reward accuracy versus other weapon types" -DICE, 2022

[fiery shoal]

those guns just have different effective ranges

[prime river]

AKS* sorry.

[drowsy shuttle]

Sundance nades are finally fixed.. PRAISE THE LORD

[snow badge]

Sticking to engagements sub 20m on 2042 maps is a good way to shoot yourself in the foot

[fervent rose]

right, and the 2042 maps mean that the nerfed vector is worthless

[prime river]

This like the g36 saga where i.n bf4 it had a slower ROF because dice said " in our vision for bf4, we decided to change the g36)

[fervent rose]

and the pbx is literally faster than the k30

useless gun

[snow badge]

Shame because the vector is the coolest looking smg

[prime river]

Just give me ump45 from bf3

[fiery shoal]

i mean.. its not like you cant control your range of engagements, areas to play in, or use things like smoke to change the game to your favor...

[prime river]

Or ump9

[arctic grove]

Facts

[fiery shoal]

if you dont want to do all that then dont use a specialized weapon...

[arctic grove]

I want the UMP45

[solid imp]

Kaleido C2 BT cap zone bigger?

[fresh lintel]

The Vector is simply a CQC shredder. The PBX has more versatility and use but the Vector straight up goes "Fuck you individually."

[snow badge]

Or maybe just accept that the k30 sucks

[fervent rose]

the close combat pbx does that better than the k30 now, k30 just has a drum mag if you cant aim well

[snow badge]

A bullet is a bullet, a weapon shouldn’t be worthless beyond 20m j

[fresh lintel]

The K30 isnt that bad. Its not the PBX or PP Bizon but it has its use.

[eager spire]

the K30 does suck. DICE made a very distinct effort in making it that way.

[fiery shoal]

i dont have to accept anything, i shred with the k30 when i want to use it. if you cant its probably a personal problem

[prime river]

It's good in single player lmao

[fiery shoal]

this is basic game design for the last 2 decades... a "bullet" doesnt mean shit in the realm of videogames

[fresh lintel]

Its probably the fact that it struggles past 10m unlike the other SMGs.

[prime river]

But yeahm dice literally has 4 games worth of SMGs to add to battlefield 2042

And they still have 5 smgs

[solar obsidian]

https://i.redd.it/ovu7ltnvbqea1.jpg

[eager spire]

yeah but DICE doesn't think that SMG's should reward accuracy, so

[prime river]

No Mpx, no ump 9/45, no mp7, no mp5

[clever marlin]

one thing i wish dice would do is to rework most of the gun animations

[arctic grove]

No mp40

[prime river]

The lack of Mpx is odd given that they are really advertising

sig Sauer.

Same for CoD

[fresh lintel]

This is why I like the Bizon. 50 Rounds dont care about range. Hell the PBX hurts at range too but they obviously still lose to ARs which is fine.

[clever marlin]

companies dont want to buy licensing rights for the guns

[prime river]

Do what cod does and rename them

Literally ez pz

[warm zealot]

No it's the sprint to fire delay, not the ADS delay

Try sprinting with an AR and then just hipfiring, it's much slower now

[arctic grove]

Cod renamed the ak47 lmao

[prime river]

Also, they have the licence already since they are in the game engines

[fresh lintel]

The renaming of the guns is lazy and sad. Multi billion dollar company and yet..

[snow badge]

It’s not a good smg if I have to switch to my secondary whenever I get into an engagement further than 20m from me

I do just fine with other smgs unsurprisingly

[fresh lintel]

Its why in CoD I still call the guns by their IRL names.

[prime river]

Meh. Battlefield did the same

They didn't even have the right models for certain guns

[snow badge]

I’m not asking for AR damage or accuracy on the K30 but I don’t feel like it’s very good

[fervent rose]

yea i aint saying sfar

[fresh lintel]

The G3A3, the AK47, AK74, AKS74U. PP Bizon.

Vector.

[prime river]

The m4 was based on civilian versions

[fiery shoal]

that is a solution, but there are others.. sorry if you dont want to use them 🤷

[fresh lintel]

The SFAR though is dumb and itll stay the SFAR.

[prime river]

I mean. Meh. I like cods weapon customization in MW1 better than mw2 and BF.

The caliber change was cool for the guns that could

[clever marlin]

heres the thing about mw1 customization

[drowsy shuttle]

Did they buff the ranger???

[fresh lintel]

The customization is good but when someone goes "The Lauchman 762 or the" and i'm like YOU MEAN THE G3A3?

[clever marlin]

you can modify more than just the barrel, ammo, sight and underbarrel

[fiery shoal]

i think youre looking at weapon balance wrong... there isnt general "good or bad" status to be had on weapons.. there are things like pros and cons, skill floor vs skill ceiling, etc to consider when talking about a weapon

it sounds like you just want a decent jack of all trades, which ISNT the k30

[fresh lintel]

Which is the PBX.

[prime river]

It's better than battlefield. All I ran was heavy barrel, Extended mag , foregrip , bipod and sight

[lilac dust]

Anybody have a pic of the breakaway conquest layout?

[fiery shoal]

yea for smg the jack of all trades is the pbx

[analog fractal]

How's the new update?

[prime river]

Pbx shoots so slow

[fresh lintel]

Bizon is just under the PBX in terms of quality but it trades stats for Ammo.

[cedar gust]

Is any9be else keep geeing kicked form rush XL sayinh player removed from fame game ended ?

[lilac dust]

You talkin to me?

[analog fractal]

Sure, shoot

[fresh lintel]

If yiu want fast firing SMGs you go K30 or MP9.

I dont mention vault weapons because I dont use them

[prime river]

I'm disappointed in the amount of guns that are lacking still. Only having 4 snipers. 1 of which has stupid bullet drop given the barrel size and round

[lilac dust]

Was just making a reference to your profile pic guy lmao .... But yeah I like it so far. Breakaway is awesome, but some weird attachment changes and nerfs

[fiery shoal]

@snow badge you wouldnt take a the svk to fight under 20m and then say "svk sucks because its not good at close range".. youre essentially saying that with the k30

[analog fractal]

I got the reference, don't worry. Anyway sounds good

[prime river]

Lmgs got love. But like again. 2 of them are re used.

[drowsy shuttle]

Performance took a hit

[next onyx]

PBX is the best smg.

[prime river]

Is the m416 good at all

[fervent rose]

if you want enemies to die close range (20m), you go close combat pbx, faster ttk than mp9 or k30

[analog fractal]

Just happy a proper class system is back 🙌

[prime river]

I mean it's not proper

Guns are still open

[analog fractal]

Eh, close enough

[fresh lintel]

The thing with that is now i'm sacrificing range for slightly better base TTK than the K30 and MP9.

[fiery shoal]

misleading, and the ttk different is marginal/trivial

[prime river]

Support doesn't get c4 or claymores

[fiery shoal]

no one is landing 100% of their shots

[fresh lintel]

Which I can get better TTK by just using the K30.

[fervent rose]

no it isnt, and the pbx is more accurate at range

it's just better than both guns

[fiery shoal]

being able to throw 1k rounds at someone is very beneficial

[prime river]

Ammo box takes a gadget slot.
The best class system is in portal and dice doesn't get that

[fiery shoal]

especially for shitters

[fresh lintel]

You lose Damage Range for less Recoil, Reload and RoF.

[fiery shoal]

the amount of people that talk weapon balance without really knowing what they are talking about is concerning

[solar obsidian]

so did they change the most sensible thing about liz and the mastery challenge counting assist too?

[fresh lintel]

I just started this season, just the week the Breakthrough event was ending.

[next onyx]

PBX with close combat kills faster than either the mp9 and k30.

[fresh lintel]

But I played BF3 back in the day and BF1 recently

[lilac dust]

I gotta say. They knocked it out of the fucking park with the graphical improvements of breakaway. Shit looks stunning at times

[prime river]

Me , an avid ,m240B user, a gun that never got nerfed in bf3

The only gun to not get nerfed kek

[fervent rose]

@fiery shoal you aren't some weapon balance mastermind

[fresh lintel]

Yes but why would I want to use CQC Ammo which forces a reload when I can just use the K30.

[solar nova]

well i know one thing ars are useless and LMGS are meta

[prime river]

Lmgs are always meta

[clever marlin]

average avansys users be like

[prime river]

M250 IS REAL NICE

[ocean ferry]

It's really a DICE quality that you can't use the Plus system properly when playing with a PAD.

[quaint vector]

I just played whole day..

Thoughts on Update 3.2 ?

[solar nova]

pretty bad

[prime river]

Game is still in a bad spot as it was at launch

[solar nova]

alot of stuff needs t0o be reverted

[warped pulsar]

I'm enjoying it, just gotta adjust muscle memory

[prime river]

Not enough weapons. Too many irrelevant changes

[solar nova]

^

[steep wolf]

anyone playing on Steam and lost all saved data today when they updated the game? after it uninstalled Origin and installed some new EA launcher

[prime river]

2 years since launch right and modern warfare 2 has added 5 guns

[clever marlin]

stop expecting perfection and have patience

[prime river]

ITS BEEN 2 YEARS

Ea killed every project for this game

[ancient peak]

…one year

[prime river]

NFS was fucking shit

[crimson meadow]

Mw2 is kinda dogwater

[solar nova]

at least its playable

[prime river]

Sure. But it still gets content at a faster rate

[solar nova]

Lmao

[fervent rose]

mw2 is like the drum magazine change, clunky and terrible

[crimson meadow]

Putting in reused maps isn't content

[ancient peak]

MW2 is playable until SBMM screws you after you do “too” well

[prime river]

Play shipment and sbmm is fixed l

[crimson meadow]

Like I've heard castle is coming back.....again

Where are the infinity war maps like I'm lost

[fresh lintel]

MW2 is good until you realize that sweats will use the various 3 Marksman Rifles that are more braindead than any other sniper before MW2 and all this other unbalanced shit

[ancient peak]

Nah insert AKs-74u here

[fiery shoal]

never claimed to be, but i dont make insane statements either

[fresh lintel]

And then you realize the maps are bad. You cant play slow. And you're punished for playing fast.

[fervent rose]

so i'm insane? what statement did i say that is insane

[fresh lintel]

AKS74U will always be one of the best guns in COD.

[fervent rose]

can you be civil or are you just a clown

[ocean ferry]

Weapon switching, plus system, sight switching.
All of these work together, so when I want to switch the main weapon sight, it switches to the subweapon sight.
I'm pretty sure DICE didn't test play it.

[ancient peak]

Don’t worry, you’ll get the border crossing map again and again

[fiery shoal]

how can you be ironic in a single sentence...

[crimson meadow]

Rather play this than mw2

[fervent rose]

well if you are gonna act like a fool im not gonna continue talking to you

[fresh lintel]

This is why I use claymores, Smokes and thermals now and stay in T1.

[fiery shoal]

funnily enough the comment you are mad about i wasnt even thinking of you when i said it...

[scenic badger]

which is actually stupid af because they specifically nerfed MP9 and M5 CC rounds but leave these OP

[prime river]

Border crossing is ship

Shit

[ancient peak]

T1 where pistols are fun and really make people baby rage

[prime river]

I just leave

[fervent rose]

that's irrelevant to my comment about your mastermind status @fiery shoal

[prime river]

I can't wait for hardcore. T1 is cool but hitmarkers suck. Thank fuck I'm done with camos. I didn't have to use launchers at all

[ancient peak]

I love how hardcore is apparently a “feature” now

[fiery shoal]

not irrelevant since you thought i said it about you and then said i wasnt civil and called me a clown...

[fresh lintel]

Using thermals on anything gets me those.

Hell have you used the AK47 on T1? It one shot headshots at every range.

[crimson meadow]

If that's the new mode for season 2 the game is a joke

[hard geyser]

love how many points you get for support stuff now. came in 2nd when i am not really a killer lol

[prime river]

All rifles are one shot headshots

[ancient peak]

Ding ding ding

[fervent rose]

no i said you werent civil because you used the word insane later, you jerk

[prime river]

And DMRs and marksman are one shot in core to the head

[pastel loom]

mwii is crushing enough without t1

[fiery shoal]

that is a very low bar of entry for not being civil...

didnt even call anyone insane either...

[fresh lintel]

The ARs also have range issues, or recoil.

AK47 is a 2 shot headshot in core and 2 shot body in T1

[crimson meadow]

Love how they delayed season 2 to add hard-core mode

[fiery shoal]

@fervent rose what are you mad about? because its not me...

[ancient peak]

The only thing innovative thing mw2 brought that I enjoy is the grip that lets you quickdraw a pistol

[prime river]

I would enjoy 2042 if they had more weapons. But I like variety and 2042 feels like BF1 again

[warped pulsar]

EOD bot for repairs

[ancient peak]

I’ll admit that grip is neat

[fresh lintel]

EOD bot for memes

[fickle bison]

what?? Where does it feel like bf1?

[prime river]

The lack of weapons.

[fresh lintel]

Too be fair you cant really... Add too many weapons for BF1 since yknow

Its World War fucking 1.

[fickle bison]

Yeah, thanks god

[fresh lintel]

Everyone had the same god damn rifle.

[prime river]

Having 3 variations of guns was dumb and also kek. Sure it's WW1 but it's irrelevant given the amount of SMGs and automatic weapons that weren't in high numbers

Also the sweet spot mechanic was fucking stupid

[crimson meadow]

I've had more fun in 2042 than the recent stuff. Bf1 was cool minus the broken planes

[fresh lintel]

The automatic weapons and SMGs were all experimentals

[prime river]

Ok yeah. Ill give it that.

But anything between 2042 and 4 Imo sucked.

[fresh lintel]

Like most of the guns you saw in BF1 never actually saw the Battlefield (no pun intended)

[prime river]

Not really. Not the American ones v

The federov saw limited use in the Soviet civil war

[slender hare]

can anybody show me the breakaway 128 conquest layout plz?

[fickle bison]

You mean every battlefield after 4 sucked, right?*

[prime river]

Yes.

[fresh lintel]

Yeah, limited at best. Never made it past testing at averagem

[prime river]

And ive played every bf since 1942 came out, except the free to play ones

[fresh lintel]

I am personally a: Everything besides BF1 sucked. This includes BF4.

I didnt like BF4, it felt so off. So.. Wrong.

[prime river]

Still though. They had no customization and had 3 different versions of one gun. Where as it would be one game

Well bf4 was the start of the downward trend.

[clever marlin]

5 minus the hackers isnt bad

[prime river]

Imo

[fresh lintel]

Hardline gets a pass since I didnt play it and I forgot it existed.

[prime river]

5 was a mess

Nerfing the piat

[clever marlin]

but in typical dice fashion, a game usually takes about 3 years for a game to be perfected

[prime river]

Dumb

[crimson meadow]

Bf4 had some great maps. Minus like 2 launch maps

[fresh lintel]

Didnt play 5

[prime river]

Kek idk. Bf3 was great. It was broken on console because no voice comms for 3 months

But it was fine.

[fresh lintel]

Not like it mattered since no one talked anyways

[prime river]

The big patch didn't really make a difference for a majority of guns but the FAMAS

[fiery shoal]

bfv best bf

(at least in modern times)

[prime river]

Nah. 3 is still the best

[solar obsidian]

stop the fight lads, we all know battlefield heroes was the worst

[eager spire]

BF3 has not aged well

[fervent rose]

bfv would be a good game if there were an anti cheat. but they really let the game be ran over by cheaters

[pine roost]

so basically, everyone has a different favourite game :)

[fiery shoal]

i hate spread based gun mechanics, so i wont touch anything before bfv in todays time

[fresh lintel]

But BF3 i just ran around with the Spas12 in TDM and dominated every match. Rarely hitting double digit deathsm

[prime river]

You know they went downhill when you don't see teams of KSA and BRA/ARG players

[pine roost]

did bf3 have the same movement as 4?

[eager spire]

no

[pine roost]

ah

[fresh lintel]

No. It was clunkier.

Plus jumping made you go faster.

[pine roost]

that's a shame

[ember charm]

BC2 was my favorite

[fervent rose]

you can do wild stuff in 4 you cant do in 3

[prime river]

You haven't played metro unless it's against a full team of Saudi try hards with aek971s

[fervent rose]

some stuff arguably you shouldnt be able to do

[arctic grove]

Did they remove quick swapping mods

[prime river]

Eh. 3 was more open
You can pack a jeep fu of landmines and C4

[fresh lintel]

In BF3 if sprinting, you jumped every second to get to places faster.

[fervent rose]

no i mean the basic movement stuff

jumping in 4 is crazy

[prime river]

Jumping was crazy in 3

Until they removed the vault

Or was that in 4

[lilac dust]

https://gyazo.com/73c0ea7f76038ebcabda8a0d71534d41 Found a pic of the Conquest layout of the New Breakaway rework

[pine roost]

bf4 movement is still my favourite of the lot. The hitbox manipuation while perfoming a zouzou for instance is rather exploity but it's got the most depth by far

[spiral folio]

Mg42
But chambered in 5.7x28

[prime river]

One of them had a fat ass bonus to getting up from prone

[prime river]

Pls stop

5.7 is a shit round

[spiral folio]

Its good

[fresh lintel]

MG42 chambered in Buckshot.

[prime river]

I think it was 3 that gave you a bonus from getting up

But that got removed quite fast

Yeah it was 3

Lmao that shit was broken AF

[spiral folio]

A mini-minigun

[fresh lintel]

I like shotguns in games because it pisses people who I can go toe to toe with normally off

[pine roost]

a mix of 4's air strafing and 2042's movement would be a chaotic dream com true

[wild whale]

They wont let any real movement happen anymore

[prime river]

Meh. Shotguns in Bc2 and 3 are stupid op

[arctic grove]

Did they remove quick swapping mods

[wild whale]

Since they nerfed the bf1 slide

[prime river]

Dice devs got shotguns that shot Helicopter rounds in bc2

[fervent rose]

they just need to fix the wasd movement in 2042 first

[fresh lintel]

BF3 the only shotguns I saw were the 870 and Spas. Rarely the Saiga.

[fervent rose]

its so mushy

[prime river]

Because usas and jackhammer got nerfed

[clever marlin]

are you on console

[fresh lintel]

But those were rare since the meta was dominated by FN2000, M4, AN94, G3

[prime river]

Aek at launch

[snow badge]

Ok

[fresh lintel]

I FORGOT THE JACKHAMMER WAS IN BF3

[snow badge]

The K30 sucks

[eager spire]

because people who aren't good at the game tend to hate it when you move quickly

[pine roost]

it's a shame, but 2042 is the deepest we've had since and at least there's something

[snow badge]

That’s all I had to say

[prime river]

Frag rounds ruined the Usas, street sweeper and Jackhammer

[wild whale]

2042 beta*

The crying was legendary

[frail sparrow]

goddamnit do i hate the a91. time to just play some co-op

[fiery shoal]

and im saying thats the "wrong" way to look at weapon balance..