battlefield-2042

[pine roost]

It makes sense why they added a cool-down to the box

Annoying as it might be

[hard plume]

Yo the explosive arrows are pretty lit, i love shooting people, have em look around to see who shot them, and then them just blowing up

It’s my new favorite weapon

[plain needle]

they should add gore to this game, that would really add to the immersion

Someone turning into pink mist after getting hit by a .50

[pine roost]

I’d turn it off for the frames

[plain needle]

True

[pine roost]

And to not feel queasy

[spiral folio]

There's already like 500% gore compared to what you'd really see

[plush hollow]

Where

[plain needle]

Is there blood splatter in this game even?

[spiral folio]

Yea theres any

And thats more than youd really see

[plain needle]

Hmm

[plush hollow]

That’s 500% more?

[spiral folio]

Otherwise all youd see is like fabric moving

[plain needle]

Idk all I’m saying is if I get hit by an MPAT shell, I wouldn’t be in one peice

[pine roost]

But then revives wouldn’t work

[plain needle]

True but for that particular scenario though

[pine roost]

Their limbs would just fly back together like it’s a Lego game mid revive

[plain needle]

Regardless im happy with the game so that’s just a thought I had

[plain needle]

No no, like if someone died by a gun they should be able to be revived, but if someone got hit by like a mortar or something heavy, then they shouldn’t be able to be revived, does that make sense?

[pine roost]

I know what you mean but that would just be annoying for the player

[arctic grove]

https://www.reddit.com/r/battlefield2042/comments/10p4li5/place_your_bets_ladies_and_gents_whats_going_to/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=mweb3x Bingo night in 2042

[plain needle]

Perfect, that’s all I was tryna get at

[royal swan]

That's eh

I would have it where a person dies to fire they can't be revived

And that's it

[arctic grove]

speaking of that

[plain needle]

That’s a valid criticism

[arctic grove]

Bodies should not appear outside of a tank if it explodes

[plain needle]

YEAAAA

[arctic grove]

That shit always makes me start laughing

We need a lego battlefield game

[pine roost]

Battlebit

[arctic grove]

Oh wait we got Battlebit remastered

ya

[plain needle]

Squad has a lego Star Wars mod

[spiral folio]

Lego made their first castle yellow to prevent people from making panzera

[arctic grove]

I know. im in that server

[calm bison]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/239788202745921536/1069660273641783366/image0.jpg

[arctic grove]

they should add agonizing screams of the crew as it burns down

[plain needle]

^

[arctic grove]

that would be epicly poggers

[royal swan]

YOO I want to talk to alex

[arctic grove]

I think v has sounds where you can hear a small alarm and the character coughing if the tank is low on HP

[royal swan]

About the jav+tracer combo

[plain needle]

I just want the game to sound fucking violent

[arctic grove]

Little details like that that would make the game seem a lot more violent

[calm bison]

I’ve never really used the Javelin before

That’s gonna change

[arctic grove]

Like, using virtual guns to shoot virtual people ain’t enough

[plain needle]

You’re gonna love it

[arctic grove]

I need the sound design to be spectacular

[pine roost]

Aggressive much

[plain needle]

Like bf1 for example

[mossy badge]

Isn't it awesome that we can talk to a game dev bro who actually responds

[royal swan]

It is yeah

Last time we talked about the ads on drum mags

[arctic grove]

best we can do is "broke a damn rib"

[mossy badge]

I asked him his favorite battlefield iii map he said tehran highway it's a night map

[viral oasis]

Show distance (in meters) on long range kills in the kill feed

👏

[royal swan]

They said it was a poor choice but they had to nerf it. I gave a good and fair nerf idea for the drum mags

[plain needle]

I heard from a falck “I’m going into shock!” One time

[viral oasis]

Fixed an issue where the Origin in-game overlay caused a negative impact on processing of the mouse input even if the overlay was not actually active.

👏

[arctic grove]

the russian lines are fucking stupid (i speak russian)

[viral oasis]

Parachute: Lowered the cooldown between being able to deploy your parachute after recently cutting it from 1s to 0.6s

Dev Comment: This is to help alleviate an issue in which players would cut their parachute and plummet to the floor without being able to redeploy the chute, hopefully this now results in less splat.

[plain needle]

Oh god yea I heard

[plain needle]

We’ve all read the patch notes yes

[arctic grove]

they say shit no soldier would say on a battlefield ever

[plain needle]

I’ve understood a couple lines and thought they were quite poor

[pine roost]

Oh yeah, I’m ready for round two baby

[sharp marten]

[spiral folio]

The one thing i hate about parachute is like cliffs if you barely touch a rock and it cuts your chute

[quaint vector]

** Angel Does It Again **

[spiral folio]

The cooldown change would help that

[arctic grove]

need bf3-4 lines with swer werds and humor

[plain needle]

Oh man that would be something, they actually did port over some voice lines into the bf3 soldiers

[spiral folio]

I kinda just see parachutes as like "if thus was real you'd be able to lower yourself in various ways

[plain needle]

For the Americans at least

[spiral folio]

Ie repel lines

[arctic grove]

didnt hear too much of em since I dont play legacy portal

[mossy badge]

[spiral folio]

I wish there was a generic soldier

[plain needle]

Yea you’ll recognize a few American voice lines from previous titles, I’d recommend taking a listen one day

[sharp marten]

I love angle he’s very obtuse sometimes

[plain needle]

Don’t be sad, that’s just how it works out sometimes

[arctic grove]

"Alright troops, today we're taking our meth lab back, the world is counting on you"

[sharp marten]

Alright notepads

[plain needle]

The pre round commentator could use some reworked lines I feel

[arctic grove]

ve have captured bravo van

[plain needle]

It’ll never happen though

[plain needle]

The Russian line lmao

[arctic grove]

maybe new commanders like they did in s2

[shadow narwhal]

Does anyone know how to fix these stutters? when i load up the game its fine but after 1 game it just stutters so bad and battlefield uses %100 of my cpu and ram can anyone help? i also put a clip in here to show you what's happening https://streamable.com/40nhor

[sharp marten]

Sorry your power level is to low to fly the condor only people with 10 million power can fly it

[minor ferry]

but should not be for regular ammo

just like bfv

or at least bfv when they make the change to the ammo box

[plain needle]

Can someone remind me what nationality Zain is again?

[sharp marten]

Egyptian

[plain needle]

Right, thank you

[arctic grove]

what the fuck is wrong with bf1

its instaling itself for the 3rd time

[royal swan]

Why do I need to update bf1

Ayo

[arctic grove]

I caused an update by trying to download it]

now I gotta wait like 30 min again WHAT THE FUCK

[plain needle]

To promote bf 2042 💀

[arctic grove]

its literally on my ssd why the fuck is it installing again

[royal swan]

[arctic grove]

oh my fucking god

[plain needle]

That’s what ea did with battlefront two, to promote Jedi survivor

I wanna play battlefield so bad but I don’t have a tv in my room until I get another one

My last one literally just broke

[arctic grove]

buy a monitor

[plain needle]

I was thinking that

[silk surge]

Airburst go brrrrr

[arctic grove]

henry on his way to upload an average gameplay clip and leave

[royal swan]

Lmao

[royal swan]

I expect a jav+tracer combo montage tomorrow.

[silk surge]

On it 😀

[royal swan]

Bring a teammate or a friend

It's required

[silk surge]

Oh... Nvm then 😦

[arctic grove]

buying javelin rounds montage

(most expensive montage)

[quaint vector]

Can't wait to try that tomorrow

[arctic grove]

200k dollars for a missile holy

[quaint vector]

Javelin all those snipers.

[silk surge]

It's crazy to think how much the game will change fundementally tomorrow.

[quaint vector]

** Javelinfield 2042 **

[ebon pilot]

yea it needs to be a super-ultrawide clip

[arctic grove]

exactly

[silk surge]

Been playing Battlefield 2042 for over 1k hours, but tomorrow Battlefield 2042 will not exist and Javelinfield 2042 will take its place.

[arctic grove]

im still gonna be mackaying with c5 so im gud

now with instaheals

[quaint vector]

[silk surge]

First thing I'll do is to try out the new tank rotating speed and APS, but I have a feeling that I will be javellined by 64 people.

[quaint vector]

Yup..

[arctic grove]

no

[quaint vector]

It was that way with Lis, so expect the same

[arctic grove]

by 3 ppl that will be playing engie

and two annoying ass Liss

[silk surge]

Oh god, playing tank during the first days of Season 1

[scenic badger]

i want to see more repair tool vehicle kills after tomorrow

[quaint vector]

Also Helis were chased hard..

[silk surge]

I had so many of those back in BFV. When I played support, I used to lunge mine and then finish it off with repair tool.

[ripe hedge]

[low timber]

There were lots of Lis’ when it was a free weekend as well

[quaint vector]

[arctic grove]

yo alex can u separate barrel and muzzles real quick

[sharp marten]

Double it and give it to the next person

[ripe hedge]

Nah

[hard plume]

Neat helis wont be able to fucking hover alllllll the way in the air making it near impossible to hit anything on the ground

[silk surge]

I've noticed from watching ASHEBF's clips that everyone switches to Lis when he's on the enemy team.

[arctic grove]

ok then explain m5a3 having a visible barrel on the hud with a suppressor

[silk surge]

He has like 10 lissiles coming at him at once over and over again, its pretty funny.

[ripe hedge]

Screenshot?

[arctic grove]

no image perms

[sharp marten]

Send it to me

[silk surge]

No, me

[sharp marten]

No me

[silk surge]

Ok

[quaint vector]

[arctic grove]

gotta launch the game and take a pic

if ur patient

[sharp marten]

I’m in lunch homie

Yo @ripe hedge

[silk surge]

Alex is a DICE dev, of course he's patient.

[quaint vector]

Parient.?!?!

I saw that

[sharp marten]

Alright windows

[quaint vector]

[silk surge]

You saw nothing.

[sharp marten]

I think you need to settle down

[quaint vector]

🪑

[sharp marten]

Have a seat

Don’t even say it

[quaint vector]

I'll be sitting the whole day tomorrow... Update 3.2 needs to be played

[silk surge]

.... So 5 people?

[arctic grove]

ye

[sharp marten]

Why won’t Alex-kun love me

My boi

I was just gonna say homie can’t wait to use those weapons coming

[arctic grove]

yo

preston'

[sharp marten]

Yessir

[arctic grove]

do I send pics?

[sharp marten]

Are you asking if I got any pics from you?

[verbal horizon]

Hello , is the game version of bf2042 different for ps4 and ps5? Meaning if you get it on ps4 you can't transfer it onto ps5?

[sharp marten]

Yes send them to me

[quaint vector]

Your Progression will transfer, but you need to have both versions

[ripe hedge]

What weapons?

[sharp marten]

Portal weapons

MTAR go burrrr

[verbal horizon]

Alright thanks

[sharp marten]

Here you go Alex

[arctic grove]

extendo mag looks incorrect too

tho i wish it looked like that in game

[unkempt wagon]

hey guys whats the best map/location to farm bots for weapons?
maybe a video

[arctic grove]

nice cropping

[quaint vector]

[sharp marten]

Expert photoshopper

[dapper river]

same, f*** curved mags, revert to straight mags like muh classic M16A1 😎

[arctic grove]

right?

[sharp marten]

Ima need 509 of those boins you have

[dapper river]

stanag? more like poop-ag!!!

[arctic grove]

insert kratos gif of him saying no

[sharp marten]

https://tenor.com/view/god-of-war-ragnarok-ragnarok-kratos-kratos-no-nope-gif-27160145

[dapper river]

Breakthrough Solo/Co-op, on Stranded

[quaint vector]

https://tenor.com/view/kratos-god-of-war-gif-24889642

[unkempt wagon]

specific spot? or in general

@dapper river

[sharp marten]

[dapper river]

Just in general, the AI loves to bunch up everywhere on the map so you can get a lot of kills very quickly

[quaint vector]

Who's ready for tomorrow.?

[sharp marten]

Not you.

[dapper river]

I ain't your average sicko

[sharp marten]

You’re going to be busy

[willow sky]

Before entering B, they like to pile themselves up near the entrance of the ship

spam smokes and hipfire for days

[quaint vector]

I'm

[sharp marten]

[mighty holly]

[dapper river]

Can't wait for slowmode to be enabled after the flood of "WTF WHY CANT I EQUIP [x] ANYMORE??" and "CLASSES ARE BAD BRING THE OLD WAY BACK" comments

[warped pulsar]

can't wait for the update

[sharp marten]

Should we start it earlier

[solar obsidian]

capcom changing platform from ps to pc "The publisher has announced that it'll be switching to PC setups for its week-long tournament in February, as reported by The Verge(opens in new tab). It's being done in an effort to combat input lag, something which has been a longstanding issue for the PlayStation version of Street Fighter 5. Despite the game being locked to 60fps, it still has a lower input lag on PC which is further aided by running it on a 144Hz monitor."

[sharp marten]

Who’s gonna stop us window?

[dapper river]

as reported by The Verge(opens in new tab)

[sharp marten]

There’s more of us than him

We can over throw him

[drowsy shuttle]

yeah i think the bug reports or broken stuff reports is gonna be bigger than actually reviews about the update lol

[sharp marten]

First we take out windows then we go for way

[solar obsidian]

its technically the truth, ps have terrible inputlag,

[next onyx]

YO.

[sharp marten]

Next Carpo and carbo

[next onyx]

The r/pokemon server got nuked.

[arctic grove]

why

[sharp marten]

[solar obsidian]

whats pokemon?

[quaint vector]

[arctic grove]

is that good news

[next onyx]

Owner abused his power.

[sharp marten]

[next onyx]

Look up the context.

[dapper river]

soo much seething over scarvi it would seem

[next onyx]

But don't talk about it here.

[solar obsidian]

thats not the first time a pokemon been abused

[arctic grove]

like removing posts criticizing the new pokemon game?

[solar obsidian]

they should pin those threads instead,

[arctic grove]

Pc master race moment

[arctic grove]

Good. They deserve it from the half baked game they released

[sharp marten]

Oh yeah I can go onto the internet with my console so with process of elimination it is a pc

Technically

[next onyx]

We aren't official. This is fan run and the games state doesn't mean anything.

[solar obsidian]

precisely

[dapper river]

meanwhile Battlefield 2042 at release:

[arctic grove]

It means alot to some pokemon fans but i didnt know it was not official

[arctic grove]

2042 launch on PC was shizz. It was worse than console

[solar obsidian]

at least 2042 was mostly done with critical stuff after 4 months

no saying it was fast

[arctic grove]

Ironic 2042 was more optimized better on console than pc.

[dapper river]

Worked on my machine!
I mean performance was less than stellar, but despite the jank and the bugs I still had way more fun than the other offerings that season ¯_(ツ)_/¯

[arctic grove]

Low key i miss climbing buildings with the hover.

[solar obsidian]

but i truly doubt they will see some major changes to pokemon since they are struggling so hard making games on a technical level at game freak

[dapper river]

not as useful anymore for me, since all the breakthrough objectives were removed from rooftops lol

[arctic grove]

Arceus was actually decent. And skyrim on switch is decent too. Not sure why gamefreak stuggles with the specs.

[solar obsidian]

we talking about a series, you could crash certain games on with prior 3ds games

gamefreak did not make arceus

did they ?

damn

[arctic grove]

I need to double check

[solar obsidian]

i thought it was the devs that made platinum

[remote kiln]

gamefreak did make legends arceus

[solar obsidian]

and even arceus lowered the bar back then 😄

[dapper river]

man hovercrafts got hit so hard with nerfs, they're practically useless. Weakened armor, literally only understeers due to the laws of physics, its main gimmick of being able to travel above water is worthless because across all 2042 maps there's like only 1% water coverage..

[remote kiln]

it's the multiplayer component of the newer games which cause performance to tank, having so many players active on shit hardware is a recipe for disaster

there has to be a much upgraded switch revision

[arctic grove]

Bro the Bolte got nerfed 3 Times!

[remote kiln]

legends arceus was fine because it didn't have any multiplayer

[dapper river]

yet people still park that thing backwards on a hill and tickle enemies with the 30mm

[solar obsidian]

they are only exclusive to one console,

they knew the limitations going in,
game should never been released in that state

[remote kiln]

being exclusive or not doesn't matter lol

the thing it's exclusive to is slower than phones

[arctic grove]

As long as it tickles my pickle then im fine

[solar obsidian]

helps with not trying to optimise multiple systems

[remote kiln]

it doesn't have an effect on anything

it hasn't for years

[solar obsidian]

design games around the hardware instead of trying to build something that cant run

[crimson spade]

is the update tomorrow

[remote kiln]

dude it's not the PS3 era of games

[remote kiln]

yes

[crimson spade]

dam that's sick i wish i could play but they dont support middle east servers anymore

so yeah

[dapper river]

Early 2022: "Man Arceus kinda looks like poop, worse than BOTW. It can't get any worse than this"
Holiday 2022: "AAAUUUGGGHHH TAKE ME BACK!!!!"

[crimson spade]

that's 2042 for me

[arctic grove]

Switch hardware is comparable to ps3 or 360 i think.

[jovial jay]

Time to put something like Heligoland Bight into 2042

[remote kiln]

no it's slower

the PS3 core is faster than the switch

[solar obsidian]

[dapper river]

Switch pro NEVER EVER

[remote kiln]

switch is using Tegra hardware which was made 8 years ago for mobile devices

[arctic grove]

Damn. I might as well play ps2 games on switch

[remote kiln]

you can

[unkempt wagon]

ally bots seem to win the game by themselves i guess its less kills but you farm faster?!

[remote kiln]

emulation on it is possible with jailbreak

phones from 2018+ have more power than the switch, and that says something

[jovial jay]

Basically tell you to Switch to another platform

[dapper river]

petition to change all instances of "fixed" into "ixed" on all future patch notes

[spiral folio]

Clearly they meant Oxed

[unkempt wagon]

you guys existed about new patch with classes and the cancer end of map camping with the javelin?

[dapper river]

'ixed me ride
'ixed me game
'ixed me souljas

[spiral folio]

As in to use an ox

[remote kiln]

https://tenor.com/view/azooz-evil-laugh-evil-laughter-intensifies-evil-gif-24751849

[brave pond]

aoe2de://0/205075617

[arctic grove]

bruh

[brave pond]

HAHHAA

sry

wrong chat

[eager spire]

alex must've forgotten that as well

[stuck urchin]

Might of been asked but is the 3;2907J:2903j P8:84976237 breakthrough queue bug being fixed tomorrow?

[jovial jay]

Hopefully

Its annoying

[stuck urchin]

are they even aware?

lol

[chilly jacinth]

read the patch notes

[arctic grove]

My obamacare phone is better than the switch and that is saying something

[solar obsidian]

i had a portable switch all along

[jovial jay]

Obamacare phone

[dapper river]

obamna...

[jovial jay]

I havent received my obamacare attack helicopter yet

[dapper river]

penguin repair service

[plain needle]

Pengys

[jovial jay]

The horse was repairable in bf1 back then right?

[glacial gulch]

Anyone know what time the update drops ?

[solar obsidian]

same time as always

[radiant prism]

9:00 UTC

Convert as needed

[glacial gulch]

thank u !

[vocal zenith]

waits its droping today?

[arctic grove]

For me it’ll be 3 am

CST NA

[vocal zenith]

1pm for me in calli

[arctic grove]

Oh damn

[twin ledge]

I love how a ram with missile launcher and aps can 1v1 a mbt

[tardy tree]

these patch notes are really fucking good

s4 is gonna be wild

i cant wait

[arctic grove]

I agree

Feel like S4 will have some nice updates too for features and what not

[mental delta]

Did they announce anything about season 4 ?

[arctic grove]

Hopefully a roadmap is presented for S4

[mental delta]

Roadmap ?

[arctic grove]

I believe they showed screenshots of the map unless that’s the s5 map I’m thinking of

Yea, there was one for seasons 1 and 2 but I think they stopped putting them out. I could be wrong though

[mental delta]

No that's s4

[vocal zenith]

s4 new map is cqb

finanly

[mental delta]

But they didn't say anything else about it I think

[arctic grove]

S5 map is bf4 esque and S4 is cqb, I’ll use those to try to remember for now on

I get them mixed up sometimes

[tardy tree]

also hourglass rework

favorite map

[mental delta]

Not totally lol, they said the same about Stranded, that it encouraged CQB but finally it has a lot of space that vehicles can go through

[eager spire]

Will the S4 map actually be infantry focused.

because they lied about Stranded.

[mental delta]

I think I saw it could be set to be during s5

[arctic grove]

I don’t think unless written word said it was CQB that they lied

[shell ermine]

The season 2 and 3 maps were CQB focused too

[arctic grove]

Even if they said CQB-focused it didn’t have to mean it wouldn’t feature vehicles

[shell ermine]

I'm kinda sick of it

[mental delta]

S4 will feature vehicles too

[shell ermine]

I want a Panzerstorm-like map

[eager spire]

this game lacks infantry focused maps and modes.

[shell ermine]

Give me 10+ tanks per team

[hybrid totem]

Or use hammer time
<t:1675112400:t>

[eager spire]

there really needs to be some of those. for balance.

[mental delta]

You got Hourglass

[jovial jay]

Practically every other maps

[sharp marten]

It will be more CQB focused not strictly infantry

[shell ermine]

Wake Island 2042

[hybrid totem]

Every map is infantry focused. There's always like 50 more infantry than there are vehicles

[jovial jay]

You jest

[hybrid totem]

Not even a little. Give me a huge number of land vehicles with an air superiority match going on overhead

[eager spire]

yes when i think of maps that are focused on infantry gameplay, i of course think of WIDE OPEN SPACES.

[mental delta]

Lol more players than vehicles is just normal, at this point every BF maps is infantry focused, infantry focused is about getting a lot more playable space for infantry

[hybrid totem]

When half the team is running vehicles, then we can complain about not having infantry focus maps

[eager spire]

oh my fucking god dude.

[jovial jay]

Even spearhead got stages where you can still be blown up by random condor

[hybrid totem]

You know what's beautiful about vehicles, if you play along with them, they create obstacles so other infantry can't shoot you

[mental delta]

A map without air vehicles would be really appreciated tbh

[eager spire]

do i need to make a qualifying statement that when i say infantry focused i'm meaning like BF3 Close Quarters, Metro, Lockers, Fort De Vaux?

No vehicles?

[hybrid totem]

Got to be honest, fuck that noise

[eager spire]

Do i need to mention that every single time?

[sharp marten]

No this map will have vehicles

[jovial jay]

Idk if they already planned huge plots of land as map but man cant they seriously consider maps like Manhattan assault?

[hybrid totem]

Until we have an actual server browser, don't remove vehicles from any map

[shell ermine]

Does any 2042 map have 6+ armor per team? The wiki hasn't been kept updated for 2042

[mental delta]

You don't like no vehicles map ?

[hybrid totem]

No I do not

Why do you think I play this game?

And not one of the other infantry focused shooters?

[eager spire]

I like not playing against vehicles.

[hybrid totem]

Then stop playing battlefield

[eager spire]

THE OTHER INFANTRY FOCUSED SHOOTERS SUCK ASS

[hybrid totem]

Well that's not battlefield's fault

[mental delta]

I understand, I personally appreciate maps with no air vehicles like some BF4 ones

[shell ermine]

Eh, MWII's gunplay is better than 2042

[eager spire]

i don't agree.

[shell ermine]

Not better than BFV though

[hybrid totem]

Accounting for and dealing with vehicles is part of what makes battlefield, well, battlefield

[jovial jay]

Battlefront 2 did the warfare setup better, you got lots of maps that go from full arsenal combat to infantry combat, like Naboo, Hoth,...

[hybrid totem]

You're trying to make a cheese steak without cheese

[shell ermine]

Battlefield without tanks and planes isn't Battlefield

[sharp marten]

I wish we had a Op locker or metro that’d be sick

[jovial jay]

It would be nice if they could just use that formula again for 2042

[arctic grove]

Battlefield can still have infantry maps though. I mean there is locker and metro

[shell ermine]

SWBF2 2017 is an awful game

[hybrid totem]

Two of the most divisive maps in its history

[eager spire]

okay but consider this: i don't care. i like the infantry gameplay, and it's not like having maps that don't have vehicles would be a new thing for the franchise since they've been doing that since BF3

[arctic grove]

While some of what you’re saying is true, Battlefield still adds infantry only maps for a reason

[hybrid totem]

Okay, but consider this: I also don't care, and the devs appear to be on my side

[sharp marten]

Good thing the world doesn’t revolve around you

[mental delta]

Yeah they should really update Portal with maps but I don't think it's ever happening unfortunately lol

[shell ermine]

Good maps balance infantry areas and combined arms areas well

Provence, Wake, Pacific Storm, etc

[mossy badge]

💯

[mental delta]

People often mistake Battlefield for an infantry/vehicles only game, they can't conceive it as a game without vehicles

[shell ermine]

Its supposed to be a combined arms shooter

If a map doesn't have tanks its a bad map

[sharp marten]

[eager spire]

i'm not saying there shouldn't be vehicles in the game in general. i'm just saying having infantry only maps would be nice, and would be a good change of pace for the game since it currently has none.

[mental delta]

I agree but it's still a shooter, it's fine to me as long as we still get more maps with vehicles than maps without vehicles

[hybrid totem]

I'm not saying you should be forced to play with vehicles either, I'm saying the option to play without vehicles exists, you just don't like it

[placid echo]

I thought it was a dating sim

[jovial jay]

[mental delta]

Me too I don't see the problem with having maps without vehicles, as long we still have a lot of maps with vehicles

[hybrid totem]

The second they add maps to the rotation without vehicles, you can be sure that the number of people leaving as soon as a match starts will skyrocket

[eager spire]

what is the option.

[jovial jay]

You're confident about that?

[hybrid totem]

Portal

[sharp marten]

Source: trust me bro

[shell ermine]

Season 4 being an infantry map means I'll probably play just enough to unlock the new weapons/gadgets and then put the game down until season 5

[eager spire]

Portal is unreliable, people make dogshit servers on it.

[sharp marten]

Why don’t you make one

[mossy badge]

[jovial jay]

I have been in like full lobbies of Verdun, Fort Vaux for the past month

[hybrid totem]

No, it's the fact that they don't have persistent servers combined with the fact that the player base is still shrinking

[jovial jay]

And those maps got 0 vehicles

[sharp marten]

Show me the stats

[mossy badge]

He just love to say negative stuff only about others dude can't even tolerate minor spelling mistakes

[hybrid totem]

Oh, I'm sorry, it's the player base actually growing after all?

[sharp marten]

Yeah I know I think he muted me or something or just doesn’t acknowledge me because I dog on his ass every chance I get

[sharp marten]

Yes actually

[hybrid totem]

Oh, it must be because they keep adding maps with vehicles on them

[jovial jay]

It would be so nice if devs made maps like they used to do, I miss the pacing of battlefront 2

And some bf1 ops

[mossy badge]

Last time we discussed battlefield iii type maps

[jovial jay]

I suddenly have a minor stroke thinking about metro

[sharp marten]

I mean I’m not opposed to vehicles since I literate camp in a vehicle

[placid echo]

Locker

[mossy badge]

Ligma you told me about this map

🤔

[jovial jay]

Yea

[mossy badge]

Epicenter

[sharp marten]

I mean if we’re gonna get more seasons they should do a poll for a infantry only map or map that has vehicles and infantry

[eager spire]

Locker is not a great map. It's just the best infantry map in BF4 on account of it's the only one in the base game. Of course, Metro is also there. But it's fucking Metro again.

[jovial jay]

Thats one epic map in term of detailing

[mossy badge]

Yeah I saw some gameplay of it, that map is soooooooo detailed

[jovial jay]

I dont have a lot of memories playing in it, all I remember about bf3 was metro, that one ocean assault map and the border thing hmm

[mossy badge]

Atmospheric

[jovial jay]

Map design was taken to a new high during bf1, bfv and battlefront 2 time

[mossy badge]

In server browser you don't get to experience every map its usually most played map server or the one people love the most

[jovial jay]

Then something bad happened to 2042 era

[mossy badge]

I like that map
Arica

It's a remake but looks cool

[placid echo]

I like manifest, renewal, exposure and kaleidoscope

As some notable examples

[radiant prism]

I chalk the missteps made in map design in 2042 to the increase in playercount

I think they rightly assumed that more players would mean much more space needed, but their execution of that was obviously flawed

[placid echo]

2042 feels more sandbox-y in nature

[radiant prism]

We have to remember that they'd never designed maps with 128 players in mind so probably assumed they needed more space to avoid clutter

[jovial jay]

But still, Exposure is a good map, just need a squad with deepest hatred for helis

[placid echo]

Looking forward to breakaway

[jovial jay]

Spearhead has enough cover I guess

[radiant prism]

Spearhead is pretty good coverwise yeah

[jovial jay]

Stranded remind me of Discarded

[quaint vector]

Did some adjustments on my Discord Server, but I'm back.

[jovial jay]

Its quite ironic that they named it Discarded, since lots of people would just discard the match with that maps from what I heard

[placid echo]

Stranded is fun imo

[vocal zenith]

we need london water map

[quaint vector]

Stranded is great

[vocal zenith]

floodzone 2.0

[placid echo]

London Bridge is falling down

[jovial jay]

That reminds me

We never got any maps or anything at all

Related to the flooded area in the trailer

[vocal zenith]

i mean they havent added boats yet

[placid echo]

Which trailer?

[vocal zenith]

so i expect it comes when they add boats back

[jovial jay]

Oh I mean the Exodus short film

[arctic grove]

I miss speculating on 2042s world building especially when the exodus short film had come out

Guys we did it

[jovial jay]

I did expect a flooded urban map from it

[sharp marten]

Next season is called 11th hour

[arctic grove]

Battlfield 2042 is saved

Tomorrow Bf2042 Launches

[sharp marten]

Wonder what the season after that is called

12th minute

[arctic grove]

2nd day

[jovial jay]

[placid echo]

12 days of Christmas

[jovial jay]

More christmas skins

[sharp marten]

Tbh they should bring cool Christmas skins into the game like tactical skins

[arctic grove]

Im still waiting for DICE to give me my Santa boris

[placid echo]

I'm rather excited to see how the recon specialist will turn out

[sharp marten]

Idc what anyone says these skins go so fucking hard bro and I’ll fight anyone about it

[arctic grove]

I agree

[spiral folio]

My bet is their unique gadget will be melee or worse

[placid echo]

I like Paik's

[sharp marten]

Mortars

[arctic grove]

The Irish one is my favorite

[placid echo]

BEEG SLEEVE

[sharp marten]

Paiks is pretty sweet

[spiral folio]

I have no hope itll be a sniper

[arctic grove]

I want this Angel skin

[quaint vector]

Yessir

[sharp marten]

Still waiting on my bf4 Irish skin tbh

[radiant prism]

Thought that got datamined a while back I think

As a legendary skin

[jovial jay]

Wow nice coat on Paik

[quaint vector]

Ah yes... I will pay anything for BF4 Irish Skin.. 🥹

[jovial jay]

But that mask doesnt go too well imo lol

[placid echo]

Your soul?

[quaint vector]

Where I have to sign up.?

[placid echo]

:D

[sharp marten]

It was but it hasn’t released yet

[sharp marten]

I’ll give you my kidney rn

[quaint vector]

Demon

[hexed mango]

i have 10 kidneys in my freezer

[sharp marten]

Can I have one

[arctic grove]

Ugly tbh

[hexed mango]

rao one looks better

[sharp marten]

Your face

[arctic grove]

how can people buy that?

[sharp marten]

[hexed mango]

[spiral folio]

"Then again I am already in my pajamas"

[quaint vector]

This one also looks good

[spiral folio]

Too bright

[arctic grove]

True Patriot. DICE kissing US fanbase butts

[sharp marten]

I want to see the legendary SU skin coming out

[spiral folio]

Brown, green, gray, or tan

[arctic grove]

Thats what we need. Another White skin.

[quaint vector]

This one should have been free in the S3 Event

[sharp marten]

She is in a Snuggie rn

She’s going blanky mode

[quaint vector]

Also MacKay has some headgear.

ToyStory MacKay

[spiral folio]

Too bad theres no viable AT rifle in the game to replicate the tank hunter kit from bf1

[sharp marten]

That’s a Aussie hat if I’ve ever seen one

[quaint vector]

Thats what we need.

[arctic grove]

Yes we do

[sharp marten]

“There’s a snake in my boot”

[pallid brook]

Hey all, I'm unable to browse the menus or play the tutorial Conquest mission past 5 FPS. Is this a known issue? Playing on a good PC that gets 150+ fps in other shooters.

Things I've tried:

1. rebooting PC

2. "repairing" game files via EA app

3. deleting bf2042 cache folder from my documents

4. tried borderless/windowed mode

Any ideas?

[radiant prism]

"The Reptile-Footed Ranger"

[dapper river]

"So long, partner"

[cold thistle]

Yeah so like why does battlefield 2042 need 100% of my cpu

I have a reasonable rig that should be able to run it at least at medium

I'd be fine playing on low but even at low my bullets phase through enemies and cars are literally flying

Literally unplayable lol

Ea try to make a somewhat optimized game challenge (impossible)

[arctic grove]

Okay well, what’s your CPU

This game is really CPU dependent so

[cold thistle]

One sec

Been able to run everyother game fine on it

[arctic grove]

Yea it’s pretty cursed

[cold thistle]

cant send screenshot 1 sec

uh I think its a i7?

[pallid brook]

Anyone have any ideas for my insanely low FPS issue?

i'm on a 3080 and i9 lol

can't get past 5 FPS in menu

[cold thistle]

yeah I have a decent gpu but this game uses like 4% of it for some reason

[arctic grove]

I7?

[cold thistle]

maybe

[arctic grove]

I thinkkk the recommended isss

one sec

I mean still you should definitely be able to run it good tho definitely

[twin ledge]

@cold thistle go to task manager -> performance -> cpu and it will say which cpu you have

[arctic grove]

Ye i7

[cold thistle]

I can run every other game fine including cyberpunk on high so idk

yeah im looking at it "11th gen intel r core i7 - 11800H @ 2.3 GHZ"

[vocal zenith]

idk if i shoul upgrade my cpu yet

im currently using i9 9900k OC to 5ghz all core

seems like its still good for now personaly

[spiral folio]

EA stuff gets really stupid if your drivers are old

[vocal zenith]

i mean at least im not using a 4th gen intel lol

[cold thistle]

Good point I should update that

1 sec

[spiral folio]

Seems like newer cards suffer the most if the drivers are old

[vocal zenith]

thats probably because they rely on a lot of ai stuff like dlss and stuff

[cold thistle]

I dont really enjoy the whole building a pc thing so I just got a prebuilt and it was one of the one marketed to be able to run stuff like cyberpunk and 2042

[cold flame]

EA should add Adaptive Triggers to the Playstation 5 Controllers.

[arctic grove]

Agreed

[vocal zenith]

building a pc for me is important because if something goes wrong u know how to fix it urself

[arctic grove]

But considering console also lacks KBM support I doubt we’ll get either one any time soon

[vocal zenith]

since u built it urself

[cold thistle]

Ea should learn how to not use 100 extra lines of code for one function lol

[pallid brook]

Anyone know why I'm getting like 3 FPS in the menus? On a 3080 and i9, just installed the game.

[cold flame]

Lol.

But really they should add it.

[cold thistle]

I built my 3d printer but I'm not brave enough to build my own pc

[cold flame]

Nice.

[cold thistle]

too much could go wrong and way too expensive

[vocal zenith]

nowadays its really easy its almost like building legos

[cold thistle]

also I DO like the portability of a laptop

[vocal zenith]

plus u have amazon if the part doesnt work just return it and get a new one

[cold thistle]

also I can cook things on it

[vocal zenith]

i had a defective ram either from amazon or because i was dumb enough not to use a static bracelet but amazon gave me a new one

[cold thistle]

nvidia I dont want your 4080 I could barely afford your 3060

[cold thistle]

I may upgrade my ram soon tho

my current one seems to be dying

[vocal zenith]

how much u have rn

[cold thistle]

uh

15.7

gb

[vocal zenith]

32 gb is starting to become the normal insted of 16 gb

[upbeat sluice]

Can't wait for tomorrow and how bad this classes update is going to be haha

[cold thistle]

It's just getting harder to run a game and have youtube running without one of them crashing

[cold thistle]

Oh yeah I forgot it didnt have classes

[vocal zenith]

yea u need more ram

[radiant prism]

if you're running off chrome that's why

[dapper river]

stop playing one playstyle and bring diversity to your gameplay

[cold thistle]

Im at 80% utilization rn. Just discord and my browser are open lol

[radiant prism]

chrome just swallows ram

[cold thistle]

Opera

[radiant prism]

ah

[cold thistle]

yeah...

[radiant prism]

OperaGX gaming

lets go

[arctic grove]

What do you think is gonna be bad about it?

[upbeat sluice]

This update is going to encourage me to play smoke/falck medic

[radiant prism]

I don't even have Opera but I meme about it

[vocal zenith]

i might upgrade to 64 gb lol so i can still run games that says they need 32 and run youtube at the same time

[arctic grove]

Classes itself or

[cold thistle]

My laptop sounds like its gonna take off soon lol

[cold thistle]

how much would that be

[quaint vector]

[cold thistle]

okie driver is updated lets see how this goes

[vocal zenith]

depends if ddr4 i think 64 sticks cost like 150- 200 bucks

if ddr5 its more like 250 - 300

[upbeat sluice]

They've built a game around specialists and they're trying to change it a year into the release. And it's DICE. Think it's pretty obvious this will be a mess. Hopefully I'm wrong

[vocal zenith]

no the whole specilist is basicly just a gadget with a skin attached to it

[arctic grove]

Sure, if what they’ve said about it sounds wrong

The way they’re doing it seems literally fine, worst I’d expect is a new ads bug

[vocal zenith]

it doesnt change a thing other than allowing players more freedom in what they want to run

and now there changing that back

[cold thistle]

💀

[hexed mango]

listening to the podcast rn 🎧🎧

[cold thistle]

well I just opened the game and it's already at 100% cpu

💔

[radiant prism]

check task manager

[arctic grove]

There’s probably gonna be some broken shit but this wouldn’t be the first time

[cold thistle]

If only battlefield 4 had players I would play that instead

[radiant prism]

See what all your usage is going to

[arctic grove]

But nothing disastrous enough to really worry about

[cold thistle]

Thats how I know

[hexed mango]

hopeful it’s not bad

[radiant prism]

Oh duh ok

[arctic grove]

Well I get APS

So

[hexed mango]

[arctic grove]

I get to farm you now Echo /j

[vocal zenith]

honestly the whole complain about specialist is people dont wana be a chick or and old woman thats about it and i can see why but its not that big of a change in hindsight, and they did this just so they can sell skins

[cold thistle]

It goes straight to battlefield using 100% the moment I open it and it stays there until it crashes or I close it

[radiant prism]

Hm

[cold thistle]

I think thats what you mean

[arctic grove]

I could care less about any of them, I just wanna be a nobody marine grunt

[upbeat sluice]

That was never really the main argument

[radiant prism]

Then dress like one and play like it, thats what I do

[upbeat sluice]

Specialists were not wanted because battlefield isn't a hero shooter

[charred stag]

The main issue people had was players were essentially fighting themselves

[cold thistle]

Facts

[arctic grove]

I’m just referring to what he said

[radiant prism]

If you think 2042 is a hero shooter...I don't even know what to say

[vocal zenith]

i dont see it as a hero shooter because i see it as a gadget attached to a skin

[cold thistle]

feels like it lol

[arctic grove]

A skin that’s a unique character

[radiant prism]

What do you define as a hero shooter then?

[upbeat sluice]

Expect the skin comes with specific passives lol

And abilities

[cold thistle]

"A hero shooter is a subgenre of shooter games that cover both the first-person shooter and third-person shooter genres. These games emphasize "hero" characters that have distinctive abilities and/or weapons that are specific to them."

wikipedia

I guess the weapons arent

[upbeat sluice]

And/or, baby

[charred stag]

In other words,not all characters have their own special weapons. And most of the time it was just gadgets with the exception of a few

[radiant prism]

So what about previous games then? Most previous games in the franchise have 4 different characters with distinctive abilities and weapons. Does that make them hero shooters too?

Just hypothetically saying here

[vocal zenith]

yea the main differentiation for me is the gun play, like in overwatch each hero play differently because they have different main weapons not in bf2042 sine u have the fredom to run what u want

[radiant prism]

Not trying to be antagonistic because wow that sounded antagonistic lol

[cold thistle]

The main thing I noticed as someone who started playing 2042 yesterday is the only 1 gadget

[arctic grove]

If the older games are more in line with the concept of a hero shooter than 2042, then I’m willing to go back to it

I would simply like an option to play the character model of a soldier of my actual faction without any unique identity

[vocal zenith]

and honestly i appreciate the freedom the specilist gave but it brings the con of the game being more chaotic

[upbeat sluice]

We didn't have 4 distinct characters, we had 4 classes.

[arctic grove]

All that was distinct about them was distinctly looking like their intended role

[hexed mango]

cause there’s also the specialist gadget

[vocal zenith]

4 characters with 4 different abilities its the same thing

[arctic grove]

Except they’re not characters

they have no identity

[vocal zenith]

medic, heals, support ammo, engineer rocket, and recon, spotting

[arctic grove]

Except assault lol

[upbeat sluice]

And how many characters do we have now?

[charred stag]

Technically yes. Because if you go back to the older battlefield games,each class was limited to its own gun and gadget

[cold thistle]

Just wanna go back to when battlefield 4 was active cause its so fun

[hexed mango]

but in 3.2 you’ll have 3 gadgets total, specialist, class, open

[radiant prism]

My point is that previous games fit that description mechanically more than 2042 does currently

[vocal zenith]

at least in bf2042 each specialist can run whatever weapon they want

[radiant prism]

They might not have been characters in the writing sense, but they are functionally no different than a TF2 or OW class (to an extent, of course.)

[upbeat sluice]

That's not true in the slightest. The specialists are a hero shooter element. That was the main rub when they announced them

I mean jesus, you're trying to argue 4 classes is the same as 13 individual specialists with their own passives and abilities

[charred stag]

You can technically say the same thing about games like battlefield 4,1 and V. All they needed were character names and backstory and boom. Hero shooter

[cold thistle]

My main issue with 2042 is a big one
Not every character is Boris

[vocal zenith]

oh yea lol

[charred stag]

You can call it classes but technically

[hexed mango]

[radiant prism]

Exactly. The literal only difference is that now we've called them jeff and bob as opposed to medic and assault

[upbeat sluice]

Add 9 more classes and yeah sure it's a hero shooter

[arctic grove]

By hero shooter people are simply saying they don’t want to play a unique character model when historically character models were just according to the faction and class role

[radiant prism]

The only correct take.

[arctic grove]

It’s not too complicated

[cold thistle]

Boris's passive makes no sense tho

[hexed mango]

makes it more accurate

[radiant prism]

Boris is getting a much needed buff tomorrow

[arctic grove]

At the very least, create some for each of the two or however many factions if they really want to keep them

[cold thistle]

He makes his own ability more powerful passively? Thats not an ability thats just a stat

[arctic grove]

I don’t care about wether they stay or go, just give me an option not to have to play them then rely on paid mtx skins

[vocal zenith]

thats my entire point the whole complaint about speclisit is people just dont want to play the cringy characters not this whole argument of bf2042 is a hero shooter

[charred stag]

The reason why there weren't more classes is because they weren't limited to only 1 gadget however they could only use the gadget that fit their role. So in a way it's like playing 2 specialists with one class

[hexed mango]

yeah, but it also applies to teammates turrets

[radiant prism]

Spy's sappin' my sentry!

[vocal zenith]

because it doesnt feel like a hero shooter

[upbeat sluice]

Nah you're completely disregarding passives. The specialists aren't just their gadgets.

[hexed mango]

the passive is only active when you’re next to the turret, so it’s an added threat for benefit

[cold thistle]

still feels really weak

[arctic grove]

They used to be cringe but they removed those quips so that’s one less problem. Now I’m just concerned about wanting to fulfill my immersion with simply being a cog in the machine if you will, I’m not interested in the concept of unique character models that I am forced to play as in a game where nobody is a somebody

[hexed mango]

yeah the turret isn’t that good

[upbeat sluice]

Yeah but hero shooter elements sell skinz

[cold thistle]

But boris's voice is his true passive

[hexed mango]

fr

[cold thistle]

makes him immediately S tier

[shut mirage]

ANGEL DOES IT AGAIN

[vocal zenith]

unfortunately thats where dice doesnt wana cross because they need the specialist for skins

[radiant prism]

Boris's voice is engrained in my head from grinding him to T1

which was painful post-nerf

[cold thistle]

I've been playing angel to unlock Andrew tate

[vocal zenith]

the more class/heros/ characters there is in game the more skins they can sell u

[cold thistle]

Or whatever the guy to the right is

with the minigun

[radiant prism]

Crawford ye

[charred stag]

You can include passives too but the passive isn't the main role of the specialist. It's like me saying dozer's main role is to withstand explosives because it's his passive. No. His main gadget is his shield

[cold thistle]

looks like Tate

[sharp marten]

I mean they can do what WW3 does and just sell skins to none hero soldiers I’d still pay tbh

[radiant prism]

who will become engineer next update

Which will be interesting

[arctic grove]

Ye I understand. I understand them doing it for monetization but I feel they could’ve just sold skins with muh grunts too ya know, like for instance a green berets or spetznas type skin

[hexed mango]

crawford gonna be fun finally

[cold thistle]

Was in 4 so probably will

wait no I played medic

nvm

[charred stag]

Pretty sure we mostly would have gotten camo skins. Similar to mamba,night operations and navalized

[vocal zenith]

yea but again by making it so that there is a lot of heros or classes whatever ppl wana call them they end up selling more skins than having 4 classes that can each use one skin

[radiant prism]

Oh I was referring to Crawford, saying he will become engineer tomorrow

But yes

[cold thistle]

ah

[arctic grove]

True. I mean I’d be fine with the reskins on the AI models. They look dope as shit as is

[sharp marten]

Irish is going to be a S-tier Support

[radiant prism]

Idk what class I'm gonna play, I'll probably be engineer?

[upbeat sluice]

You don't get to disregard passives (which are a huge hero shooter element) just because it's not the main thing. Sundance gets nades no other specialist gets and also gets a wingsuit.

[radiant prism]

Maybe assault for a while though

[hexed mango]

engineer and support dor@me

for* me

[sharp marten]

Cover while able to revive

Dor@me

[hexed mango]

i might play rao every once and a while and zain cause <3

[arctic grove]

Yea I hear you. I’d be fine with Vs customization but that’s true

[radiant prism]

I've been playing Sundance and Zain recently

[cinder apex]

I like to call Crawford the hardline guy

[radiant prism]

Yo wtf he does look like the hardline guy

[vocal zenith]

zain is fun times especially if you see a lot of enemies grouping in a single area lol

[cinder apex]

[radiant prism]

Most I've gotten in one mag is 6 kills :)

[vocal zenith]

ive gotten 10 in rush xl before

[dapper river]

RIP 2-man tank teams with the driver, well, driving, and 1 gunner who gets out to place shootdown sentries AND repair, now you need to bring along one extra friend for repairs 😔

[radiant prism]

Damn nice

[sharp marten]

There’s something we don’t know

[vocal zenith]

they were dumb enough to not run irish lol

[radiant prism]

Lol

[arctic grove]

Me who always doubled as the driver and repair guy in BF4

[cold thistle]

So uh...

[arctic grove]

I’m mainly excited about the class changes cause I was never big on vehicles in 4 cause the skill gap, but with 2042 I started playing em more

Was disappointed with how many FOOKIN rockets got lobbed at me

[vocal zenith]

saw a guy earlier today who was tbagging a camping railgun tank, and the driver of the tank got out to try and shoot the guy and insted he stole the tank lol

i was laughing hard

[cold thistle]

any other ideas on how to run battlefield 2042 without my pc rping as a thermonuclear device

[upbeat sluice]

Yes my tier 1 Mav and Latv can't wait to drive around without a trillion m5s

[arctic grove]

Embrace 100% cpu usage (this will be sustainable)

[charred stag]

Yeah but you do realize that most of the specialists passives don't really do much right? Just because it's a passive doesn't automatically mean it's useful. Like I get to no use from Crawford's passive or Boris's passive or even Irish. In other words,just because it's a passive doesn't mean it's super useful. Some of the more useful ones are nimble,wingsuit,lis's passive and that's about it

[dapper river]

Oh the driver could absolutely get out and rep, but smelly teammates can just yoink your vehicle. why do they do that? why do they almost immediately die with it? why are the people who do that shit allowed to function in society?

[sharp marten]

Oh my god I this actually got me 💀

[cold thistle]

(My bullets go through the enemy)

[vocal zenith]

passives are a mixed bag honestly

[radiant prism]

2042 Pacifist class

[vocal zenith]

some are really powerfull like the wingsuit

[cold thistle]

I think I actively heal them sometimes

[shut mirage]

its me. I switch from the gunner to the driver and drive straight into enemy main 😈

[arctic grove]

Whenever I need a gunner as I’m getting swarmed nobody is there. Fuckin true

[upbeat sluice]

Look, 2042 was originally designed as a hero shooter and it's very clear that the specialists were retained with that design principle intact. There's no sense in denying reality. Just because you think some passives are more useful than others does not make it less hero shootery

[arctic grove]

They only appear when it’s least convenient

[radiant prism]

Call it a hero shooter all you want, doesn't change the fact that the difference in gameplay from specialist to specialist to swapping out a gadget in a previous game is negligible

[vocal zenith]

im not arguing againts that, i 100% agree they designed it like a hero shooter im just saying when i actually play in game it doesnt feel like a hero shooter

[radiant prism]

Exactly. Its a hero shooter in effectively in name only

[vocal zenith]

i feel like im just switching a gadget which just so happens to be attached to a skin

[arctic grove]

Well it doesn’t feel like one nearly as much when there’s 128 players, as opposed to like 20 or 12

But what RBK means is they simply definitely went for that with unique characters with their own abilities and passives

But yeah of course it doesn’t play like Overwatch

[radiant prism]

Yes they did

however

[upbeat sluice]

Lol yeah show me the negligible difference between Sundance and McKay vs another specialist

[radiant prism]

The difference is once again negligible

[radiant prism]

When you pick the two most radically different specialists it convenient isnt it. Now show me the difference between Angel and Falck lol

[cold thistle]

Fuck this I'm going to something I can actually run, Bloons td 6

[radiant prism]

Based

[vocal zenith]

sundance and mackay is an outlier lol most of the specialist play the same and move the same

[radiant prism]

Also...whats the point in complaining about those two when they're just fun mechanics to use

Like are we anti-fun now just because of some terminology that frankly doesn't impact the game much?

Like great job its a hero shooter by pure definition. Now what?

[vocal zenith]

we can atleast agree that the reason why dice went with specilist is to sell more skins how about we end it with that

[radiant prism]

Yes

Which tbh I don't care that much about, I like having more skins

[upbeat sluice]

Not complaining, just pointing out those are clearly distinct heros with their own gadgets and passives and playstyles

That there's negligible difference between some heroes doesn't mean they're not heroes

[charred stag]

The reason I'm debating is he's saying battlefield 4 is nothing like a hero shooter because there's no passives when a bunch of the passives in 2042 are useless. What difference is there? Irish can have armor as a passive and he'll still die fast. Rao spots opponents when he gets shot but chances are he's going to die 2 seconds after spotting the shooter

[radiant prism]

By pure definition yes. You could also fit the BF4 assault under that definition..

[arctic grove]

At the end of the day, I’m willing to settle for 4s version of a hero shooter than this

and keep unique characters in the Elites system

[vocal zenith]

by definition is one thing and when actually playing is a whole different thing, i dont feel like a hero just because i carry a portable tv missile i just feel like an infantry that just so happens carry a tv missile

[arctic grove]

the immersion id feel jump shotting some Russians as a funny marine on Orbital

[vocal zenith]

ok maybe your definition of hero shooter makes more sense if aplied to characters like sundance but for the majority of the specilists it feels like just regular infrantry in battlefiled

[radiant prism]

Immersion is so bullshit in BF

especially when it comes to BF1

[arctic grove]

BF1 definitely sought out to portray BF1 brutally and hot damn they did it well

“At the expense of gameplay” I dunno man, I enjoy playing it. Yeah the sweet spot and visual recoil could go, but that’s all I offer in criticism for it’s gameplay

that and losing teams getting objectives points

[radiant prism]

like yes I'm so immersed in my BF1 shooter using a gold plated experimental austrian SMG that never existed as a british soldier in the sinai desert jumping out of my teammates german A7V tank that just shot down a Russian Heavy bomber

[arctic grove]

Well BF doesn’t have to be a milsim to be immersive

[full burrow]

is the update live?

class one

[arctic grove]

It can and is goofy, and it’s something that’s infamous as “only in battlefield moments”

[vocal zenith]

aparently 9:00 pm utc not sure if its correct

[arctic grove]

But it also has a consistent theme

[radiant prism]

I know, just annoys me that BFV gets shit on for historical shit when its objectively a better depiction overall of WW2 than BF1 is of WW1 and I will die on that hill smile :)

[full burrow]

👍

[arctic grove]

4 did immersion well enough to have a buzz in the ‘milsim’ scene

[vocal zenith]

remeber the fliegerfaust

lol

[radiant prism]

Don't remind me, I flew fighters in BFV

[full burrow]

has CQ64 become permanent?

[arctic grove]

BF1 is an awesome slightly alternate WW1 depiction, and I find it weird people shit on V for not being a perfect WW2 depiction myself

[vocal zenith]

when everyone runs the fligerfaust and you enjoy the fireworks

[upbeat sluice]

You can't. Sundance and Mckay are so distinctively different in playstyle and abilities that you can't just say "it's like the assault class in bf4". No, it's like heroes being called specialists and put into a battlefield game

[arctic grove]

Assault in 4 usually had a grenade launcher or a medpack, I can agree that mackay and Sundance are on a different level than that

[upbeat sluice]

Just absurd to argue that there aren't hero shooter elements in the specialists when that's what the game was explicitly designed as and then changed late game

[radiant prism]

Ok but I can. BF4 Assault has distinct playstyles and abilities (reinforced by its guns, gadget selection, and revive ability). By that definition, that makes the BF4 classes heroes just the same as 2042.

Doesn't this seem pointless to bitch about?

[arctic grove]

Besides “MUH WAMEN” BFV doesn’t really strike me as too far from WW2 anyways, everything else definitely seems WW2

Map design, skins, all that

[radiant prism]

I'm not arguing that they aren't present, I'm arguing they're not nearly as important as people make it out to be.

[vocal zenith]

we all agree that dice when making the specilists were thinking of hero shooters, like gecc said their importace is basicly nothing when actually playing one single player just because they are sundance cant instantly wipe a battle

[arctic grove]

If 2042

[vocal zenith]

i see a sundance comming in im pelting her with bullets and she usually dies

[radiant prism]

Its not like Sundance has an ult that wipes out an entire objective or something. The difference, like I said, is minimal.

[arctic grove]

Was 6v6

It would definitely feel that way

The effects are definitely diminished in 128 or even 64

[upbeat sluice]

I just don't understand how you can play Sundance vs Crawford and think "yeah this strikes me as the same playstyle difference between assault gadgets in bf4"

[radiant prism]

What would people have said if the wingsuit was just equippable with its own skin?

[arctic grove]

But I think even with 128 in something like HZ assuming it was standalone would definitely reinforce hero shooter vibes

[upbeat sluice]

What if 2042 was game of the year at release?

[arctic grove]

Remember that people have good reason to speculate that specialists were brought along because HZ was possibly all DICE intended on

And what better way to introduce something like them than a F2P(?) BR/extraction type game

[vocal zenith]

they abandoned that real quick tho

from what i can tell it seems like the amount of dev resource into that game mode was limited

[radiant prism]

I don't think that, but I don't think its in the grand scheme of things that differently. Once again you've picked the largest disparity in gameplay between specialists you could have just to illustrate your point.

Which once again, seems pointless to bitch about.

[arctic grove]

I’d assume so, strangely enough the 2020 internal trailer proves there was some radical shift relatively recently

[upbeat sluice]

Yup, and because they already spent so long making their heroes, they just integrated them into battlefield

[upbeat sluice]

You're the one that complained about my classification of 2042 as hero shootery.

[arctic grove]

The 2020 internal trailer despite having that annoying ass black box on the screen never displays a single specialist, in fact every human in it looked like early versions of what we’ve got now with the AI models

[upbeat sluice]

It absolutely is mobility wise and gameplay wise. You're trying too hard.

[radiant prism]

I mean, did you not want me to respond to you and just agree with what you had to sa-

oh wait thats probably exactly what you wanted, considering we're putting words in each others mouths now

[dapper river]

ah yes who could forget the battle of holland in may 1940 where me, a japanese imperial soldier from the pacific front, charged the enemy head-on with my StG-44

[hybrid totem]

Does the specialist's lore explains how they acquired their particular equipment?

[vocal zenith]

you can call it a hero shooter, class, characters, it doesnt matter in game when you actually play them your difference isnt much at the end of the day you still go in to the objective shoot the bad guys and maybe drop ammo, heal, spot, destroy vehicle, its the same shit for every specialists. were not talking like overwatch levels of gameplay differentiation where the tanks creates space, healers keep the team alive , dps gets picks etc

[hybrid totem]

Like I don't see why we couldn't have the Liz model in wingsuit, or the Irish model carrying a grappling gun

[arctic grove]

Sheeet that’s true. But then again, despite being on the RU team in 2042 you can use the XM5, if faction restrictions were a thing it would be pretty cursed for gameplay and progression

[dapper river]

charlie crawford and his Dark Market™️

[radiant prism]

Then there's me, using faction specific weapons, gadgets, and specialists LOL

[drowsy shuttle]

there isn't an official announcement from Dice that update is tomorrow, right?

[radiant prism]

yes there is

[arctic grove]

There is ye

[radiant prism]

9:00 UTC

[arctic grove]

Twitter account 🙂

[radiant prism]

tomorowwwwwwwwww

[drowsy shuttle]

ah okay, ty

[upbeat sluice]

The pedant here is you, not me. But hey you think wingsuiting isnt that different from setting up a mounted turret at a chokepoint so I'm not sure we were ever going to agree

[hybrid totem]

So it sounds like not really. Anyone can suit up with any specialist gadget

Shit, why don't they just let us have a character creator then

[vocal zenith]

this isnt an mmo lol

[upbeat sluice]

If it were just to create a soldier class look I'd be into that haha

[arctic grove]

wait I’m confused because specialist gadgets aren’t interchangeable

Although I guess I never thought before about how the specialists get their gadgets

[shell ermine]

Is an ADS speed nerf for drum mags included with the patch tomorrow?

[vocal zenith]

ye

[shell ermine]

Fuck

[vocal zenith]

its not that bad

[radiant prism]

Sigh

Man you just took my joke and ran with it didn't you? Its almost like different gadgets have different situational strengths and uses...hmm, where have I heard that before? Using a UCAV in BF4 is pretty different in gameplay from something like a mortar or AA Mine as your gadget. Only difference there is that the guys using them in BF4 are Engineer and Recon, while in 2042 its more like Boris and Casper.

oooorrr we can just focus on wingsuit enby because it fits your narrative best.

[upbeat sluice]

Nice that's actually a good thing

[arctic grove]

Literally the most I know about 2042s lore is the cool sounding shit, sattelites don’t work, so no spying. Major distrust starts between the US and Russia who have to outsource for resources and whatever else they need to survive since most developed countries fell

Fuckin epic

[vocal zenith]

it just means u need to switch between drum mag when hardscoping and regular mag when running and gunning

[upbeat sluice]

"why do you keep using the best evidence available to support your opinion reeeeeeee"

[radiant prism]

I don't have a problem with you using evidence, I have a problem with you having a laser focused POV on that evidence that ignores all the scenarios that don't really support it.

Once again, have I ever denied that Sundance and Mackay are standouts in their characteristics?

[shut mirage]

plus menu is broken. This is coming from someone who abuses it. I feel really bad being able to switch to a long range optic to kill someone i wouldnt have been able to otherwise with my red dot

[upbeat sluice]

Glad you agree that those two at least are more akin to heroes than class gadget differences in previous battlefields

[vocal zenith]

thats the point of the plus menu, i regularly switch to a 4x scope with a extended barrel with my SFAR and use it like a DMR thats their intention lol

[shut mirage]

cool in concept, feels broken tho

[radiant prism]

Great. 2 out of what, 13?

And once again, even though they're pretty standout for their capabilities...whats so wrong with that if they're both fun to use?

[upbeat sluice]

That's a pretty big deal when you factor in how they interact with the map and their mobility compared to every other specialist

[vocal zenith]

so by that argument we should nerf makay and sundance

[acoustic seal]

it lets you bypass bad equipment choices for free lol

[upbeat sluice]

With the class reversion, yeah they should rethink them honestly

[vocal zenith]

honestly i dont see much mackays and sundances anymore

[willow sky]

i didnt know dying from a certain specialist was a gamebreaking thing

[upbeat sluice]

That's all I was saying from the getgo, that the hero shooter elements in this game won't translate well with this update

[arctic grove]

Firefights are pretty dynamic though. I think the plus system is good for consistent engagement instead of sticking to a specific range for something you couldn’t exactly account for knowing would happen beforehand

[vocal zenith]

well there is nothing wrong with that, it just means u are adaptable to different situations

[radiant prism]

They are AFAIK, Mackay's ADS strafe speed is being lowered and his grapple range is being decreased. Sundance has already been nerfed several times to decrease their ability to fly around and in being much more noticeable through loud audio cues

[vocal zenith]

im able to perform in cqb and switch to long range engagements whenever the situation deems it

[upbeat sluice]

That forcing heroes back into classes doesn't jive with the design principles for 2042

[willow sky]

and with this new update, there will be less, making specialists highly diverse!

[acoustic seal]

those are faults of the maps much more than what you put on the gun

[arctic grove]

Not necessarily. If a map combines both open portions and a cqb portion, that’s not necessarily a fault

[vocal zenith]

huh how about that actuall balance

[arctic grove]

Especially seeing as players want the best of both worlds right?

A place for infantry to go without getting shat on, vice versa

Sure you could design maps entirely around both concepts but all I’m saying is gunfights are dynamic and the plus system allows you to adapt as something happens

[vocal zenith]

no, what it does is by limiting player freedom it encourages teamwork, now caper cant run around with an ammo crate camping ontop of a skyscraper sniping, and rao cant hack + aa missile anymore, etc

and assult cant have unlimited ammo

[arctic grove]

It’s not your fault if you use an acog on a map and one objective is a building

[radiant prism]

Plus system is great IMO. Versatility is fun and ideal for a game like BF

[arctic grove]

Nor is it the maps fault^^

I don’t see anything wrong with the plus system tbh. I mean I feel like everything could be bad depending on how you put it lol

[upbeat sluice]

Yes I understand what they're trying to accomplish, but it is going to be rough because the game wasn't built around the 4 class system

[vocal zenith]

i dont see why it cant work, it just means u need to stick to your squad

[radiant prism]

I agree, but I'm still interested to see how it works out. Plus, there will for sure be more tweaks down the line

[vocal zenith]

i know thats a foreign concept to bf2024 players but they will learn in time

[upbeat sluice]

How can I do that when I can't even manage my squad lol?

[viral oasis]

No we had this discussion this morning

[willow sky]

Play with friends 😄

[vocal zenith]

u can switch squads and why the heck are we in this discord server if not to play with people that actually play around a squad

[hybrid totem]

Soldier creator. Choose everything from gender to skin color to color of camouflage

Speaking of which, why the fuck don't the specialists have proper camo for like half the maps

[upbeat sluice]

Oh yeah I'm definitely interested but I just think it's going to be especially rough this first update

[radiant prism]

Agreed, but with a change this big I think growing pains are to be expected

[arctic grove]

Before you start ermiya, let me clarify that I don’t have any argument against squad management