battlefield-2042

[upbeat sand]

Nah no one likes to talk that's all

[scenic badger]

don't you love hearing the tank shell noise and seeing 0 effects of it

[fresh lintel]

It fills me with joy

He stopped messing around though knowing I can and will hit him.

Same round two guys were near our spawn. Probably trying to spawn camp the tanks since they kept rushing at me

[upbeat sand]

With the big 3.2 rework you think anything else is gonna get reworked?

In the future

[fresh lintel]

The lack of mechs needs reworking

[scenic badger]

distinct lack of ATST walker type vehicles in this near future game

[fresh lintel]

I'd literally pilot a mech every chance I get

[mossy badge]

MW19

[fresh lintel]

Cant be a Mechwarrior without a mech

[acoustic seal]

MAXes and BFRs were both implemented horribly, third time's the charm right?

or fourth maybe, i don't know how mechs were in 2142

[mossy badge]

I never played apex on console

[mental delta]

Most of PC players think we have a fucking aimbot while they just suck at aiming

[eager spire]

well i mean modern CoD aim assist is practically an aimbot. it trivializes the game.

[mental delta]

Still a way more easy to aim on PC

[eager spire]

no it's not

[mental delta]

I play on both devices and I don't say that to shit on PC players

But I struggle way more less with aiming on PC

It is lol

[eager spire]

No it's not. You're used to it, possibly, but it's not easier. It generally requires more effort and control on your part compared to someone using a controller in MW2.

[copper fulcrum]

At least it's not Apex

[eager spire]

i know

[cosmic sequoia]

i wish there was a mode to go back before they added the rail gun tank and the stealth chopper

call it "before we added worse shit to the game" conquest idk

[ripe hedge]

👀 anything cool today?

[late bloom]

Shut it all

[patent path]

I had some vietnamese food

[fresh lintel]

2142 Had mechs that were perfectly fine. Plus unanimous or not, I genuinely dont believe that BFRs killed PS1. Its too farfetched to think that a mech can out run the A2G.

[willow sky]

Went back to using the K30 again, this thing is still really good 😳

[eager spire]

i just got back from organizing a shed for 2 hours. i am very tired.

[ripe hedge]

sick

[hexed mango]

thanks alex for liking my tweet

[fresh lintel]

But MAXes were fine in PS1 and they just need to rework MAXes in PS2. But theyre not gamebreaking. People just.. Kinda suck lmao

[hexed mango]

very excited for university, i am

[ripe hedge]

Congratulations bro, dont get indebted too hard

[patent path]

student loan? what is that? just take money from your parents lmao ez

[fresh lintel]

I didnt go through college for that reason. Dont want to be indebt 5ever

[mossy badge]

There's very less recoil in cod and battlefield games anyway crabs

And its very easy to control

They are not pubg and eft

[hexed mango]

yeah its gonna be a heavy cost. especially since its out of the state I live in, and its a pretty good school.
but, im sure Ill get through it somehow.

[vivid onyx]

This game is basically for PC CHEATERS XBOX,PS5 AND OTHER PLATFORM DO YOURSELF A FAVOR UNINSTALL THE BATTLEFIELD IT MAINLY FOR PC CHEATERS THE DEVELOPERS AND CREATOR DONT GIVE A FRACK BOUT US XBOX PS5 AND OTHER GAME PLATFORM THEY ARE MOSTLY FOR PC CHEATERS.

[hexed mango]

massive skill issue alert

[vivid onyx]

Mind you they just want your information to sell

[fresh lintel]

The only time I get suspicious of a player is when its a console player who isnt looking at me, gets shot and INSTANTLY snaps to me and domes me.

And i'm a console player.

[deep bloom]

That’s just snap aim assist

Most have it set to 100 on both types

[fresh lintel]

But then to dome me like it was some Planetside 2 interaction?

Seems a little odd.

Because even with max sens you'd be struggling to land enough headshots to visually OHK someone.

[deep bloom]

Most people run default on everything so it’s not impossible just annoying

When you have both turned off it feels super sus

[fresh lintel]

I tun default and it works. But knowing console play, high sens is good for snipers and vehicles. Too high of a sens for infantry play tends to do more harm than good

[drowsy shuttle]

gawdayum..!

[chilly jacinth]

mental illness

poor lad

[vivid onyx]

Why dont you eat 💩

[hexed mango]

damn bro

[drowsy shuttle]

quoting kevin hart: "it's about to go down"

[eager spire]

Oh hey, it's you again. hi.

You're still on about this, huh.

[acoustic seal]

this dude hasn't felt how bad it is to get instantly deleted by console ac42

[royal swan]

[copper fulcrum]

Still never saw a cheater in any of my games lol

[hexed mango]

same

[royal swan]

SKILL ISSUE SKILL ISSUE SKILL ISSUE SKILL ISSUE. GET OUT OF MY HEAD

[vivid onyx]

Oh theres alot of cheaters i hadposted on developer email even there name as well

[eager spire]

i gotta say this person is dedicated. they are absolutely delusional, but they are dedicated.

[eager spire]

"on developer email" what do you mean by that, exactly?

[hexed mango]

probably spammed an unrelated dev's email

[eager spire]

probably but i wanna hear it from them

[vivid onyx]

Nope and one other thing also warned other player to uninstall cause it for pc cheaters

[royal swan]

The only time I see a cheater is in the team chat but a guy who is going negative

[eager spire]

are you going to answer my question

...There's no way this guy speaks english, by the way. I highly doubt that this person isn't talking through a translator right now.

[acoustic seal]

nah those aren't ESL mistakes

[eager spire]

i mean look at how this guy is talking and tell me that's someone who actually speaks english.

[acoustic seal]

it reads more like "50 year old man typing furiously" to me

[fiery dawn]

Why do we want to demote Way now 😂 @hexed mango

what did I miss haha

[eager spire]

hmm, i see

[fresh lintel]

Or someone whos too angry to type proper gremmers

[eager spire]

this person has been angry for a while.

[fresh lintel]

Sounds like me

[vivid onyx]

Wow grammer police wow go back to school moron

[eager spire]

Are you going to answer my question or are you just going to keep dodging it? @vivid onyx

[fresh lintel]

I didn't even police, just making an observation.

[eager spire]

...Seems like the answer is gonna be the latter.

[sharp marten]

Yeah buddy sure whatever you say closes door to the basement

[topaz field]

Did they remove battle of the bulge from exodus conquest rotation???

[eager spire]

notices the battle of the bulge.

owo

[fresh lintel]

o w o

[sharp marten]

NO

NO

GET OUT OF MY HEAD

[hexed mango]

yes.

[fresh lintel]

ÒWÓ

[eager spire]

i have the distinct impression that i made someone very angry

[topaz field]

I can only play it on TDM

[sharp marten]

I’d like to see his response tbh

[fresh lintel]

You're doing gods work

[eager spire]

@vivid onyx hello? are you still there?

[royal swan]

Said a no no German word and got sent to hell, but I'm back

[patent path]

lol

why is that word banned

[royal swan]

It's was grammar ####

[eager spire]

incredible

[patent path]

I know lol

[eager spire]

i think greywolf's brain has short circuited

they're not responding.

[royal swan]

Lmao

But in my time in the mute zone, I found out the tracer dart jav combo

[patent path]

he's scared of the grandma police

[royal swan]

Oh it looks so fucking fun

[lilac dust]

Bruh ... Just saw gameplay of the MTAR as a vault weapon .... why are all the reloads the same lmao. BF4 had a nice looking reload for the MTAR

[eager spire]

because they've stopped giving a shit

[royal swan]

Idc, I just want my malicious hands on the fucking jav and force my squad mates to use tracer darts

[hexed mango]

just use jav against tanks.. its a 3 shot

[lilac dust]

It's so hard to give a shit about the vault weapons when 1. they're usually underpowered and 2. there is so little care put into them from an animation standpoint

[hexed mango]

mtar is really good

has a pretty fast ttk

[eager spire]

and they usually don't work on launch because the porting process is fucked

[hexed mango]

pretty accurate as well

[lilac dust]

In BF4 yes. I'm hearing the only noteworthy gun in the new update is the PP 2000

[hexed mango]

nah mtar vault is better than the pp2000 in this

much better range

[royal swan]

🥱 boring

I want to kill snipers with it

[radiant prism]

I’m so tired of scatter nades not working I’ve changed my name

[hexed mango]

work fine for me, must be a massive issue in relation to skill

jkjk

[lilac dust]

I'm so tired of no new weather events I have kept my name the same

[radiant prism]

I have not thrown a single scatter nade today that has worked properly

Just all exploding in the same spot

[hexed mango]

i'd rather more content than weather events ngl

[hexed mango]

if it gets stuck in weird physics they all stack (like for some reason if you hit a person with it they dont go anywhere ive noticed)

[radiant prism]

It’s not even that

They just always stack like that

Regardless of where it’s thrown

[hexed mango]

hmm

[radiant prism]

Sometimes they fly up

[hexed mango]

when i throw them in the air that never happens

probs wanna report that

[radiant prism]

I literally just threw them straight up and they stacked

[lilac dust]

I have to assume that previous games like BF4 didn't use mocap for every reload animation. This is my theory on why we are getting lazy ports of vault weapons

[hexed mango]

the portal anims are done by a separate team, one that isnt really good

[lilac dust]

I had to click on your profile pic to realize that wasn't Joel from the last of us show crying. I dunno why it slightly looked like it from a glance 🤣

[hexed mango]

bruh

[royal swan]

Bro I miss cringy voice lines

[hexed mango]

never seen parks and rec?

[willow sky]

will the mtar be really good? 😳

[lilac dust]

Oh so it's not Adam freeman?

[hexed mango]

ron swanson

[lilac dust]

I've seen clips

I know who you're referring to, but not watched the show properly

[willow sky]

especially mackays

[radiant prism]

What’s the best way to make as quick screen recording so I can get video evidence of this

I’m so annoyed lol

[hexed mango]

he still has some good ones in the game lel

[willow sky]

id like to hear that voiceline ESPECIALLY for those top frag mackay players LMAO

[royal swan]

"I'm not overconfident, just better than everyone else"

[radiant prism]

I just want scatter nades to work well

[willow sky]

THIS

[hexed mango]

use some shadowplay software, xbox gamebar, nvidia, etc
or use obs

[acoustic seal]

obs replay buffer my beloved

[radiant prism]

It never works for me

[acoustic seal]

every grenade is a small nuclear warhead in this game

[radiant prism]

Always just stakcs

Idk

[vivid onyx]

Too many assholes

[acoustic seal]

my brother in christ this is the LEAST cheated in battlefield, go play 5 or 1 and tell me how it goes

[drowsy shuttle]

well if you aimed at the chest and was an headshot then i would be worried to be too easy...

[eager spire]

so you're not gonna answer my question

[drowsy shuttle]

if you aim at the head.. i expect to be an headshot

[rocky kraken]

portal weps need reworks

gawd damn

that emr looks garbage

doesnt even line up with the sight

[drowsy shuttle]

if you tell me that there is little weapon sway for example, that i agree

[radiant prism]

Alright this is bizarre

[topaz field]

so you can dart gun players and kill them with javelins lmaooooo

[radiant prism]

everyone elses scatter's work fine :(

[topaz field]

PC or Console

[radiant prism]

PC

I swear I'm not coping my scatters just literally don't work the same as everyone else's

[polar jay]

Yeah the proof is I was #1 on my team at some point

[topaz field]

record a video and upload to forums

orr here not sure why you having issues

[sharp marten]

They nerfed your scatters because you’re to good

[radiant prism]

Yeah im gonna try and get a video

This is so weird

In other news, 67 kills to VCAR T1

[remote meteor]

I am being in top spot of the leaderboard in this game quite often with my 1,60kd. Either because of my revives or because I get like 40-50 kills sometimes and be on top because of top frag:) Have yet to encounter any cheaters as in bf v(aimbot/wallhack/speedhack…)

[hazy musk]

bfv is infested with cheaters

i had a guy killing me with the LAD in bfv the other day

[subtle raptor]

All bfv content should be added to portal 🥱

[hazy musk]

and the LAD is an lmg that was never released for bfv...

[dry adder]

Guys, how do I get a tank in hardzone.. I selected my personal vehicle as tank.. But every time I want to drop it... The tank doesn't show.. Please help

[hexed mango]

tracer dart is funi

[arctic grove]

give upda

[placid echo]

Chewsday

[ionic steppe]

i just looked up my 2042 stats. I have only been able to play on Orbital 6 times since launch

[hexed mango]

monchday

[ionic steppe]

i have 50 matches on Exposure lol

[hexed mango]

i have 347 on exposure

152 on orbital

[ionic steppe]

orbital 6, breakaway 13 lol

[arctic grove]

Good lord when did you get the game?

Literally the best map man

[hexed mango]

exposure is my personal favorite

but for base maps, orbital and manifest are best

[ionic steppe]

i find the texture coloring in that map kind of weird. I live near the rockies and they dont really look like that

[arctic grove]

I’m liking exposure a lot more too recently

[arctic grove]

In orbital?

[hexed mango]

exposure

[ionic steppe]

no, exposure

[arctic grove]

o

[ionic steppe]

its in the rockies in BC and they dont look like that

[arctic grove]

You mean the trees aren’t yellow?

[ionic steppe]

the grass and earth contents are wrong colors lol

and the content of the rockfaces is weird

[arctic grove]

Just trust

[hexed mango]

i mean i just googled "rocky mountains british columbia fall" and i got a bunch of yellow trees with yellow grass

[ionic steppe]

yes, those things are close but other stuff throws it off for me

maybe its weird because i lived there lol

[hexed mango]

granted- i dont live in the middle of the mountains
but i mean its not supposed to be a direct mirror image, plus, the entire map is supposed to have gone through a massive landslide soo it'd be deformed

[ionic steppe]

the color of the rock and landslide material is quite a lot different than what is there

[hexed mango]

i mean most of it is also cement, but ig

[arctic grove]

They weren’t going for 1:1s as much as they were going for real life inspired locations

[hexed mango]

its still a fun map, that's why i like it

[arctic grove]

Like how kaleidoscope is a mix of actual Songdo and iirc future projects for the city mixed in

[ionic steppe]

i know, i enjoy playing on it but it feels like a funny attempt to replicate BC

[hexed mango]

yes

and Doha doesnt really look like hourglass, besides the obvious sandstorm

but- it is def a good inspiration

[ionic steppe]

i wonder how people feel about Caspian if they are from that region

[arctic grove]

Isn’t caspian in Turkmenistan

Oh also Valparaiso for another real life inspired map

[ebon pilot]

goddamn jets ffs

[ionic steppe]

looking up some stats is funny. compare your most used pistol, mine is the g57, to the guns under it. i have more g57 kills than ak24 lol

[iron flume]

I live in the bc Rockies and they don’t really look like that anytime of the year, it looks like they took more inspiration from the far North

[solid imp]

Counting the season maps might bias the numbers because they usually have season map dedi playlists when it releases, and then there's the fact that they've had dedi playlists as the maps have been reworked

[iron flume]

So I think I can confirm that Breakthrough solo doesn’t work on PS4, I’ve matchmaked a good forty times in the last week and only got in one single match

[hexed mango]

yeah but compared to all other season maps and playlists its still up by like 100

Kaleido is only at 200

and then from there its Renewal, Manifest, and then breakaway, orbital, hourglass, discarded, stranded, spearhead

[solid imp]

idk lol.. all mine make sense aligned to how they released the maps. Exposure 209, Stranded 195, then Spearhead 85 but the base maps are higher than any seasonal ones

Seems I've played Renewal the most but not by a huge margin.. it's a difference of 25 rounds

El Alamein last place

[hexed mango]

as it should be

[arctic grove]

ok i had enough mods ant doing there damn jobs to many trolls on this discord ima leave now

[next onyx]

Hey.

Huh?

[arctic grove]

every day there is arguing, people trolling one another in this chat

[patent path]

[arctic grove]

since ive been on this discord ive blocked 16 people

[next onyx]

Ah. I'm sorry about that.

It's not necessarily against the rules to argue.

[arctic grove]

my axiety cant handle it

[patent path]

it seems to me you have bigger issues then pal

[next onyx]

Let's not push.

[arctic grove]

i mainly came to the discord to join a clan and make new friends but yall hate another then anything else lol

OH

[patent path]

https://tenor.com/view/idonthateyou-nemo-arguments-findingnemo-explain-gif-4636888

[ebon pilot]

anyone know what this skin is?

looks gold

[arctic grove]

and this comment right here wasent even looked at by mods .... #battlefield-2042 message

Please add commander mode back lmao

[arctic grove]

Woah

read back up in the chat, it happens every day

[next onyx]

We don't exactly see everything which is why a modmail exists.

[solid imp]

The best way to call attention to an offensive post is to chat it to ModMail

[arctic grove]

idk how to even use the bot

[patent path]

just send it a message

[next onyx]

Just send a message and we see it.

[arctic grove]

thats it?

ok

[next onyx]

Yeah!

[arctic grove]

No need to leave man, there’s shit I see here that annoys me and stuff but just block them, you’re a dope person

sorry if i sound hostile, im not upset, just annoyed

[patent path]

ranked 6th in tft big sad

[solid imp]

We do try our best to keep the place civil and open to everyone but some days it's like pushing water up hill.. the inertia of "The Internet" isn't small at times

[arctic grove]

oh ik

[next onyx]

You have the right to feel that. I'm sorry with the shit you have to deal with but we do our best to minimise it.

[arctic grove]

i have my own "bubble" of a discord but i try to make new friends these days it hard

[idle lion]

i just saw jackfrags video of the preview and holy shit... i never thought the phrase "Humans dont have flares" would ever go through my mind

[arctic grove]

ill just go chill, ill stay Levi

Honestly man I’ve left a few times too

its been a rough day too

in RL

Like I initially joined summer 2021 but left like 2-3 times cause how fuckin toxic the discord used to be lol

Yeah understandable man

im glad its gotten better

[next onyx]

Pre release 2042 was crazy.

[arctic grove]

i can imagine

Yeah it’s got a lot better. Like there used to be times where the entire chat was just pitchforks. Utter chaos

[low timber]

Way, did you see the tracer dart and Javelin shenanigans?

[solid imp]

lol post release was crazier and I wasn't even a mod yet at that time

[next onyx]

I enjoyed it but I won't deny it got bad at times.

[solid imp]

I'm watching that exact moment now... the jackfrags vid??

[patent path]

slow mode was enacted once or twice

[next onyx]

Not yet marse.

[low timber]

Do it

[next onyx]

But I'm going to watch it tomorrow.

[arctic grove]

Pre release i remember being a lot of “if this next game fails BF as a franchise is done for”

[next onyx]

Don't want anything spoiled.

[arctic grove]

im ecited for the javelin going to be fun

[next onyx]

Pretty much it.

[low timber]

Tuesday?

[solid imp]

honestly if anyone is surprised that you can do this then you didn't play bc2

[next onyx]

Yeah the javelin is gonna be good.

I'm in no rush for it.

[low timber]

I was surprised in that even if you miss it’s lockable

[next onyx]

I have dead space. I have terraria.

By the way marse you know what's funny.

[arctic grove]

i wonder can i have my friend dart a heli and i can shoot it with the javelin right?

[next onyx]

Yes.

[low timber]

Funny stuff

[arctic grove]

good that stealth heli gona die

[low timber]

You can dart even enemy infantry

[arctic grove]

LOL

[low timber]

Fear campers

[arctic grove]

ye

[next onyx]

I was talking to my friend and I was saying it would be cool if you could fire a tracer dart on the wall and use that as a point of reference for the javelin.

And in the patch notes that is what happens.

Exact same day.

[low timber]

||You can||

[arctic grove]

o.o

[patent path]

humans don't have flares lmao

[next onyx]

Why do I keep calling it.

Yeah I think it can happen but something tells me there'll be increased functionality.

[low timber]

Now the questions is, do the vehicle get a warning if you lock on to the dart instead of the vehicle?

[next onyx]

I saw something of a dead lock with my own tracer dart.

It's weird.

[placid echo]

I wanna hit a Sundance with a Tracer Dart and watch someone lock onto that Sundance mid-air now

[solid imp]

[low timber]

Air chase

[solid imp]

I want to see mackay grapple onto that jav midflight on its way to sundance

[low timber]

Dart a choke point that’s out doors,
Lock on with Javelin,
???,
Profit.

[solid imp]

and then... "I'm here to ruin your jav fun guys" lol

tracer'd Irish vs incoming jav.. lesssgo

[low timber]

I wonder if Dozer can survive the blast

[solid imp]

tracer him or his shield 👀

I wonder if you can [E] interact with a dart that's on you

if you can somehow see it

[pine roost]

Trace a friendly Casper drone

[low timber]

Well Falcks syrettes already go trough his shield and harm him

[solid imp]

syrette is mightier than the recoilless after all

[solid imp]

wait wait... you're onto something here. Trace the drone and let it be a mobile jav target without ever having to hit the enemy?

can a drone fit under a tank..?

[low timber]

I doubt the dart has long enough life span

I wonder if the Javelin gets a thermal as well like the XM370A, except toggleable.

[royal swan]

Jackfrags did a video on that and Im really excited to use the combo to kill snipers

[idle lion]

OH NO LOLLLLL

[blissful sandal]

hows the game now

is it good? okay? trash?

[next onyx]

It's stale right now.

But 3.2 will re invigorate it.

[blissful sandal]

i heard they're readding nameless funny little soldiers

I'll probably buy it for that

[pine roost]

Don’t think they are

You still have specialists but they play more like they did before

[hexed mango]

only stale for you cause you're done with the bp

granted same for me, but if i wasn't done, i'd have more to do

[hexed mango]

there are still specialists, and that's how it will be
3.2 will add classes back, making it more like previous games, but still with specialists

[tacit sorrel]

Update Tuesday?

[hexed mango]

presumably

[blissful sandal]

that works for me

it reminds me of EAs battlefront 2

[pine roost]

Basically it changes the gameplay but the personalities and specialist gadgets are the same

[hexed mango]

not really the same

[blissful sandal]

i know

[hexed mango]

you still play as the specialists regardless, but they are in designated classes

[arctic grove]

Class system just refers to how guns and gadgets are organized

[hexed mango]

guns are still universal

[arctic grove]

You’d be thinking of those grunts which I think the game lacks enough playable options of……..

Oh yeah my bad. In 2042s case guns are still universal, so a recon can use an AR or LMG. They just get proficiencies with different weapon types

[rocky bear]

[hexed mango]

TOR --> T2

[fresh lintel]

TOR cant farm infantry as well

[hexed mango]

i did not ask

[fresh lintel]

With that logic no one asked for your opinion 😤😤😤

I jest, but the T28 is a jack of all. I'd rather it over the TOR in most maps

[next onyx]

It is not an infantry farmer.

The TOR is a TD.

I do like that MBT's are getting a buff.

And infantry can also fight back better.

[acoustic seal]

holy shit the tracer dart locks infantry, everyone has to play irish all the time now

[grand barn]

needs removed from the game before the update even drops

[fresh lintel]

The only thing I don't like is the M5 still being a bit.. Too good? At killing tanks.

Tons of damage, nigh infinite range with no drop

[hexed mango]

was not an opinion, i was stating that i got Tor to T2.

[fresh lintel]

Oh

Lmao my bad i thought you were saying it was better than the T28

[hexed mango]

bruh

[fresh lintel]

LISTEN TIER 2 AND T28

[hexed mango]

tor is just an anti air gun change my mind

[fresh lintel]

ITS NOT MY FAULT MY BRAIN IS DUMB

[hexed mango]

yes, it is your fault

[fresh lintel]

I have ADHD i blame the brain

[hexed mango]

*your brain

[fresh lintel]

Yes its an awful thing that likes to fight me

[fiery solar]

Feel better🙏

[next onyx]

I really do not understand the issues with the tracer dart gun.

[fiery solar]

Is it out

I’ve never seen the tracer used

[twin ledge]

Any tips for when you have a plain jet? Feels almost impossible to unlock stuff since you have to destroy vehicles but you get absolutely destroyed if other team has a kitted jet

[next onyx]

Because it's exclusive to bad co 2.

I've used it, It's funny.

Destroy bot vehicles in Co op.

[fiery solar]

I never played bc2 in portal

[next onyx]

You can get the unlocks that way.

[fresh lintel]

So the tracer gun is what exactly? Something that lets lock ons lock onto anything?

[next onyx]

Yeah.

[hexed mango]

yeah

basically a funnier soflam

[next onyx]

It's a dart that gives launchers a reference to hit.

[fresh lintel]

Oh no.

[hexed mango]

ye

[twin ledge]

It were also in p4f

[fiery solar]

Soflam but harder

[acoustic seal]

lis missile sniping but a thousand times more frustrating

needs to be removed immediately

[fresh lintel]

I can see people using wildcat AA missiles or AG

[hexed mango]

nah

[next onyx]

Yeah it's a SOFLAM but a bit more... Direct?

[fiery solar]

No it’s being upped

[dapper river]

The tracer dart was there before soflam was invented

[next onyx]

The Lis buff is a bit concerning but eh I don't care.

Yeah thinking back at bad co 2.

[fiery solar]

Lis’ rocket going across the map and drifting around

[fresh lintel]

Sounds like theyre trying to make console players better with her

[next onyx]

Oh yeah that's right.

[twin ledge]

To get the most out of tracer tarts wildcats would want to use AT missile (if it works like older games) since then you can lock on both ground and air targets

[next onyx]

The tracking pistol can do one thing that the Solfam cannot.

And that is lock onto players.

As in.

[fresh lintel]

Which is why I see Wildcat usage with it being absurd

[next onyx]

You can shoot a player with it and a rocket launcher can lock onto them.

[acoustic seal]

let me know when they plan on giving infantry flares then

[fresh lintel]

Because all you need is a guy with Tracer dart hide in a bush and all of a sudden the Missile knows where you are

[twin ledge]

Reminds me of hardline

[next onyx]

Yeah exactly.

I was thinking of hardline.

[hexed mango]

i mean get into a building and ur fine

[acoustic seal]

have you seen the maps in the game? big flat open fields everywhere?

[hexed mango]

as long as you arent like next to a window

[next onyx]

It'll be a gimmick that won't be as abused as it may seem.

I feel.

[ebon pilot]

you only have like, what, 4 darts?

[fresh lintel]

Probably yeah but some maps and areas will be annoying

[hexed mango]

exposure has tons of cover to get behind

[next onyx]

Like really only a squad who is actively trying to do it will more successfully pull it off versus random firing random darts.

[hexed mango]

manifest has ships and containers galore

[fresh lintel]

That desert map, Qatar? Is going to be funny

[hexed mango]

and i mean the breakaway rework looks pretty nice if you wanted to hop into the cave

hourglass doesnt exist

[twin ledge]

Does the tracer dart act as a gadget or a secondary?

[fresh lintel]

Honestly with someone using a SOFLAM i happily yeet missiles at whatever is locked anyways

Even if it hits a wall

[next onyx]

It'll be a gadget.

So it'll get more use.

[acoustic seal]

oh god and rao hack is going to paint vehicles now too

[next onyx]

But something tells me TUGS and the Proxy sensor will be more popular.

[ebon pilot]

how long does the tracer last?

[hexed mango]

good.

[fresh lintel]

Rao hack basically countering the stealth heli big now

[next onyx]

I wouldn't mind it if Rao's ability to disable was drastically shortened and they focused on that painting.

I'm not sure how long it lasts.

Maybe 20 to 30 seconds?

[acoustic seal]

you can't give two broken abilities on the same button man

[hexed mango]

the rao disable only lasts like 5 good seconds

cooldown is longer than the actual hack

[next onyx]

It lasts for 7.

[wanton magnet]

They buffed it to 8 seconds

[next onyx]

Which is a long time in the middle of combat.

Which considering the context doesn't help.

[hexed mango]

cooldown is 8

[pine roost]

About the same as the duration of flares. Which basically just means it’s the same as getting locked on with a stinger, just another method of deterring aircraft while punishing them for mistakes

[hexed mango]

i mean it looks like rao has a lot longer cooldown and time to hack, but more abilities with hacking

[pine roost]

On paper it sounds fair but let’s see

[next onyx]

14 second paint with a 3 second disable would be reasonable.

[hexed mango]

no

[acoustic seal]

what mistake is being made? being in line of sight of infantry?

[hexed mango]

100000 year paint = balance

[next onyx]

Oh wait I said 7 seconds because I was thinking of the EMP dart but that's pretty much that.

[pine roost]

Basically yeah, not retreating into a safe spot and recovering

[hexed mango]

5 second disable with 10-15s paint

[next onyx]

2 seconds off eh.

3 would be a better intermediate change.

[hexed mango]

no im saying thats what it should be

thats way too short

[next onyx]

The fact that he disables with ease shouldn't be rewarded to easily.

[twin ledge]

Do you guys know if they will buff jet progression? Like making kills count for unlocking stuff?

[hexed mango]

i mean hence why they increase the time to hack

and the cooldown

[next onyx]

Not sure at all for jet progression.

It's difficult to see a Rao hacking you.

[hexed mango]

as is to see any infantry

[next onyx]

You see silhouettes and the occasional guy looking upwards with a rocket launcher.

If there was a red light or something, Not lighting up but just telling you where there would be decent at least.

[hexed mango]

i think its fine.

increased cooldown and time to hack helps offset a spam or abuse of his system

but i dont think he should be nerfed that hard.

[next onyx]

I think he should be tweaked not to be super frustrating but instead to add.

[twin ledge]

As someone who's mediocre at best, jet progression is pain (at lest for ru since you can get stuff for us against bots) . You can basically only take down other aircrafts which spawn at a really slow rate untill you get ATGM

[hexed mango]

seeing as its one of the only counters for stealth helis, and its something that actually helps offset a infantry/vehicle divide in balance

[next onyx]

Why do you think I wanted Mackay from since the beta nerfed? I called that he would come out oppressive.

[pine roost]

It essentially serves the same purpose as a stinger when used against aircraft. The response from the pilot would be the same except instant and not during missile flight. But Rao has infinite ammo and you can’t fight back really

[hexed mango]

thats a completely difference case tho

[next onyx]

Stealth choppers are inheritingly unbalanced.

[hexed mango]

yeah so why punish the one thing that helps prevent their abuse

[next onyx]

it's a different case but the general consensus is that I hate it when an operator is frustratingly good versus one that's properly balanced.

[hexed mango]

rao is good against denying air vehicles oppressive reign over infantry, how would you call a stealth heli or transport that is left unchecked to feed against infantry balanced

[acoustic seal]

mayyybe we fix stealth helis instead of buffing the hard counter into the stratosphere?

[pine roost]

The goal then should be to nerf the stealth

[next onyx]

I wouldn't, I would ask for proper balance on them. Make helis be able to be chipped by small arms.

For example.

I get what you mean though Echo.

[pine roost]

What they are doing at the moment is a good example

[next onyx]

Stealth choppers should be balanced around having a passive perk not some stupid mode that denies lock ons.

[near hinge]

Hello, hello

[pine roost]

That alongside flares and self repair kit…. Yeah

[placid echo]

About that...

[hexed mango]

i mean in 3.2 stealth helis wont have flare and repair both

its in the same slot

[placid echo]

Yeah

[pine roost]

I know

[next onyx]

Yeah I'm glad stealth helis are getting nerfed into oblivion.

[hexed mango]

which is a good change- but i still dont think nerfing rao into uselessness is effective

[next onyx]

You'll be forced to run flares or be some stealth mode bombing rat.

I won't deny I had fun abusing the ST heli.

[pine roost]

They could have maybe done a thing where the stealth doesn’t show on the minimap while shooting or loses a spot quicker instead

[next onyx]

But fucking hell is was broken.

I like that actually.

[hexed mango]

"is was"

[next onyx]

I meant to say It reeeeeee.

[lilac dust]

You know the new update is a beefy boy when devs invite people to a capture event as if it were a new season 👌

[hexed mango]

or it had a jammer ability to temporarily prevent lock-ons
or whatever that other ability is from whatever game where lock-ons took longer

[hexed mango]

its a big change

and the update notes took 2 steam posts to cover

[pine roost]

Oh stealth coating?

[next onyx]

Yeah STEALTH would lower lock on range to that heli and increase lock on time.

That worked pretty well considering the context.

[hexed mango]

smth like that yeah

damn repair tool mastery takes so fucking long

[pine roost]

But the guns on the stealth are pretty good

I tested out the machine guns against ai and it’s fairly consistent

[next onyx]

The HMG's are good.

I ran them for the last bunch of kills cause I like self reliance.

[pine roost]

And since it’s affected by flight assist less due to its weight it actually feels more accurate

[next onyx]

They're what made me more accurate in helis that for sure.

Since against infantry you're actually required to aim.

And turn vehicles to mince.

[pine roost]

Osu helped me with yaw control

[hexed mango]

damn we lost 107-114

[magic bloom]

Look guys it’s way and the heli flight assist guy

[hexed mango]

I am blind

[pine roost]

Can’t believe it

[deep bloom]

Anyone here play without aim assist or nah?

[hexed mango]

well im on pc

so i dont

[lilac dust]

probably at least 90% of this chat plays without aim assist

[hidden patrol]

9 hours later im back

[ebon pilot]

or be some stealth mode bombing rat.
and die when a Rao notices you

[hexed mango]

good

[ebon pilot]

yes

[pine roost]

Don’t forget they are also buffing the gustav’s speed and accel, which would make it easier to use against aircraft

[deep bloom]

Lol maybe I should’ve worded it for console players who play without both types of aim assist

[pine roost]

I know a fair few here don’t

[slender hare]

guys what's the best setup for the M5A3? (the grip in particular)

[pine roost]

Whatever raises accuracy for me

Unless it has egregious horizontal recoil

[slender hare]

huh.. ok

also I like your name

heli controls are broken?

[pine roost]

Literally if it’s accuracy plus recoil control -, it’s a go to

[pine roost]

The flight assist setting is broken which messes with the controls so to a degree yes

[slender hare]

oh ok

didn't notice

I keep crashing cuz I'm a bad pilot 😂

[twin ledge]

What even is/does flight assist do?

[pine roost]

Seems to affect some people but not others

A friend of mine was complete unable to roll to the left in his heli which was weird

[hexed mango]

heli assist, as described by the game, will hold your vehicle in hover while no other inputs are being pressed (besides the assist button)

but its weird because sometimes it helps to get out of tilting, other times it doesnt

[pine roost]

Three things really.

1. it rolls your heli back to perpendicular to the ground when you let go of your controls
2. when moving in a direction, the heli will tilt so that it travels in a level path, so aiming down means a constant vertical force is applied to force you to level out
3. creates ground magnetism

[twin ledge]

Oh yeah I remember having a hard time aiming down with that setting

[pine roost]

It’s like having constant stick drift on a controller that you cannot get rid of

[twin ledge]

It was awful

[hexed mango]

aim assist is a control

heli

jesus

not aim assist, flight assist

[pine roost]

I don’t mind the existence of it as an option, but turning it off doesn’t turn it off which is the issue

[hexed mango]

for what part?

[pine roost]

All three points

Since they all are part of flight assist

[hexed mango]

cause ik in settings you can default it to off or on (and change whether the control enables it or disables it)

[pine roost]

Turning it on only exemplifies the effects when it’s off, you cannot truely turn it off anymore, which you could pre season 1

[hybrid totem]

What is the Gustav?

[pine roost]

M5 recoilless

[hybrid totem]

Is that a battlefield 5 term being applied to battlefield 2042?

[pine roost]

No it’s the name of the real world launcher

Search up the Carl Gustav

[hexed mango]

ngl still kinda confused

[hybrid totem]

Oh that. Yeah I'll be interested to see how much better it does against aircraft now

[hexed mango]

i just never hit shift while flying so i dont notice this

[hybrid totem]

Shift?

Oh right, default controls

Is that afterburner?

[hexed mango]

for helis its flight assist.

[hybrid totem]

Isn't that also ascend?

Or are they separate keys

[hexed mango]

no

[ebon pilot]

ascend is space

[hybrid totem]

Good grief no wonder I rebound those controls

[ebon pilot]

?? that's how it is in a lot of games

[pine roost]

Best thing I could do is send you a scrappy video I made a while back that shows it off

[hybrid totem]

I tend to rebind control schemes before I even start playing a game.

[pine roost]

Fire is space

Unless they changed default at some@point?

[hexed mango]

no

fire is space

[pine roost]

Yeah

[hexed mango]

w is up for helis

[pine roost]

W up, s down, a and d for yaw, mouse for roll

[hexed mango]

w is forward speed for jets

[hybrid totem]

Good God I can't even wrap my head around it

[ebon pilot]

oh right pff i'm getting my nms keys mixed up

[hybrid totem]

I use ESDF, AZ

[hexed mango]

its just basic wasd and mouse

what the fuck

[fresh lintel]

I'll just pretend flying a heli is the same as flying a Valkyrie in Planetside.

Because I havent flown a Heli.

[pine roost]

But regarding shift. If you have flight assist off it is basically just 50% of flight assist. Holding shift raises that to 100%. Turning the setting on means you have that 100% constantly which is literally unplayable and holding shift lowers it down to 50

[pine roost]

And I can’t wrap my head around that. What even…?

[hybrid totem]

First you have to understand that I don't use WASD, I use ESDF so I have more pinky keys

[pine roost]

Well that explains it I guess

[hexed mango]

very monstrous

[pine roost]

You don’t use wasd at all, ever

[next onyx]

Ravic does it too.

[solar obsidian]

not gonna lie, i would love to get used to that

[fresh lintel]

Wait i'm fucking sorry

[hybrid totem]

Then it basically mimics soldier control. E and D is tilt, s and f are roll, A and Z control altitude, then r&w control attitude

[fresh lintel]

People dont use WASD?

[solar obsidian]

but it fucks up my muscle memory from playing other games

[fresh lintel]

Oh wait no nevermind

[hexed mango]

i dont want to rebind all my keys just to move them over one

[fresh lintel]

I'm dum

[next onyx]

I used to play games with the arrow keys when I was 5.

[pine roost]

Well if that’s been your default all this time then that would be more intuitive

[hybrid totem]

Don't worry, not even gaming devs have accepted it yet. So many games use WASD for menu control and don't offer you the ability to rebind it

[pine roost]

A friend of mine plays with y inverted

Somehow…

[next onyx]

I too as well!

[hexed mango]

ok

[fresh lintel]

All the games I played were WASD. And I mean I rebinded them when I could

[hexed mango]

this is more than reason enough to demote way

[pine roost]

0_0

💀

[fresh lintel]

Unreal Tournament was my first PC FPS game 🤭

[hybrid totem]

I'm telling you, the ability to use pinky keys is a huge game changer

[solar obsidian]

finally some good shit

[hexed mango]

what do you bind there

[solar obsidian]

i peaked pc gaming lads

[hybrid totem]

For aircraft, it's altitude. As a soldier I still use shift for jump, and a for sprint

[hexed mango]

SHIFT FOR JUMP?

nah bruh

[fresh lintel]

I'll probably just use my Planetside binds for helis and shit. Tight and compact on the keyboard

[hybrid totem]

Z is crouch

[pine roost]

That is beyond cursed from my perspective

[fresh lintel]

G is for Jump

[hexed mango]

nah im done

WHAT

[hybrid totem]

g is for grenade

[next onyx]

@pine roost INVERT Y GO BRR.

I thought you knew that all this time.

[fresh lintel]

ITS QUICK. ITS CLOSE. SPACE TO SPRINT.

[next onyx]

KEK.

[hybrid totem]

Although it never gets used, I always use middle mouse for grenade

[pine roost]

NO

[next onyx]

I use that too skies.

Cause of cod.

[hexed mango]

yall are weird

[ebon pilot]

"more pinky keys" 2?

[next onyx]

Infact when I played vanguard without thinking I used that.

[pine roost]

In titanfall I use shift for crouch and my friends call me cursed for that

[hybrid totem]

Occasionally I also use control, but not often

[pine roost]

They’d love to hear your setup

[next onyx]

Yeah on minecraft I'm cursed for using shift for sneak and double w for sprint.

[hearty terrace]

does somebody know why the helis get nerfed again. I mean they´re insane weak now. Does DICE want that nobody flies any aircrafts? i mean at this state of the game they could delete it completely

[ebon pilot]

so then that's just one more key???

[next onyx]

Which by the way were the default controls.

[pine roost]

Nobody I know calls shift for sneak cursed

[next onyx]

4.2cm = 360cm.

[hybrid totem]

2, I guess

[next onyx]

That's my sens.

On invert.

[pine roost]

We just call the action of crouch ‘shift’

[dapper river]

literally some action movie shit

[fresh lintel]

If my pinky stretches to do a vital task for a game: Its bad and uncomfortable and needs to be rebound.

Hence why I hate ctrl to crouch and shift to sprint.

[hexed mango]

do you mean 360 degrees.

[pine roost]

I knew your sens was high but that Inversion is just a whole other level

[next onyx]

Degrees or cm.

[pine roost]

Cm/360

[next onyx]

Wait.

[hexed mango]

no

[next onyx]

Oh no.

[hexed mango]

its cm = degrees

[pine roost]

Big brain

[next onyx]

I looked at it wrong.

[ebon pilot]

that doesn't seem worth it tbh, I'd rather put keys on my mouse or just buy a keyboard with an extended button selection on the left side

[next onyx]

Mind my adhd brain. :[

[hybrid totem]

If you think rebinding keys is annoying now, try to do it with a custom keyboard

[next onyx]

Playing games like doom, ultra kill or terraria make me wish I was playing ETRL.

Cause I need extra buttons for some abilities.

[hexed mango]

based on some shitty eyeballed calculations, mine is like 3.5cm = 360

[pine roost]

[next onyx]

Lol faster than mine.

What's your dpi.

Because the pixel skipping would be crazy.

[hexed mango]

erm no idea

i think its only 800, but i have in-game sens (for 2042) really fucking high

[next onyx]

When I first got into pc I didn't know what dpi was so I put my mouse on the highest sens of 3200 and set my in game sens on vanguard to 75.

Safe to say when I spun I REEEEEEEE'd.

Wrong borpa.

[pine roost]

I think mine was 1600 for a long time before I got into aim training. 800 after that felt good

[hybrid totem]

I can always tell the difference between console and PC gunners, one snaps to targets the other takes like 3 seconds to get there

[next onyx]

[fresh lintel]

Just get yourself a mouse that can change DPI and set that shit to 250

[pine roost]

[hexed mango]

thing is my aim is terrible because i still cant get my arm to feel comfortable

[pine roost]

Playing that high won’t help

[hexed mango]

uh

lower sense = more arm movement = more pain

[fresh lintel]

Use your wrist

[pine roost]

Either need to work on your physical setup or actually train up those muscles to feel more comfortable

[hybrid totem]

Higher sensitivity equals more precise arm movement which could be even more painful

[fresh lintel]

Most of my PC aim is from the wrist. Minimal arm movement.

[hexed mango]

i got a better chair as per way's recommendation, its level to my desk, still hurts my forearm

[hybrid totem]

Wrist, elbow, shoulder, get all your muscles in there

[fresh lintel]

Less years to perfect it but my aim drastically shot up when I set my DPI to 250

[hybrid totem]

Sometimes I find a sweat band around my wrist helps with the support

Make all the jokes you need to

[pine roost]

What’s your posture like?

I seem to recall having a discussion like this a while ago actually

[hexed mango]

pretty upright, arms are at basically 90deg

due to the pain tho, i tend to move my right arm up more so that its supported by the chair arm, and i rest portions of my arm on my desk

[subtle raptor]

Why tf is exposure even in the exodus conquest rotation

Way too big for 64 people

[next onyx]

I had a fucked arm for a while I know what it's like.

Sounrd like a strain in your arm to be honest.

Exposure 64p isn't that big.

[pine roost]

I’d give the arm placement video that Kovaaks made a watch

I had a wrist that sort of clicked when I moved that and pretty bad shoulder pain for a considerable time

[hexed mango]

i mean its not wrist or shoulders for me

[pine roost]

Spent a good few months trying to fix it now it’s alright

Just the arm?

[hexed mango]

yeah

[pine roost]

Usually arm and shoulders would go hand in hand since the shoulders perform most of the movements of the arm

Do you ever do stretches beforehand?

[hexed mango]

i dunno. its just the underside of my forearm

yeah i do stretches quite often

[pine roost]

Good

Do they hurt during said stretches?

[hexed mango]

besides the actual stretch, not really

[pine roost]

So it’s only an issue you face while gaming?

[hexed mango]

yeah

[pine roost]

And this sens of yours, have you always played that high?

[hexed mango]

believe so, cant remember precisely, but i think 800 has been the general dpi ive used, just recently tho with the arm hurting i raised the in-game sens a bit to compensate

[pine roost]

But it’s mostly been within the realm of 3 ish cm?

My initial guess is that that sens is causing a rise in tension in your arm. If stretches and daily life doesn’t cause any pain then it’s more than likely not a physical health problem. At a high sens it’s a lot harder to be relaxed since the slightest movement translates to a large angle change on screen. Do you feel like that’s the case? While you are aiming your arm feels a bit stiff, tense and tiresome after some time?

I know from when I practised on a high sens to train wrist smoothness it caused me to tense up a lot in the arm as I wanted to be precise, and it got even worse in any kind of tracking scenario

[hexed mango]

its probably a little more than 3cm

3.5 was an eyeballed guess anyways, i'd say 4-5cm has been usual

thing is, pretty sure i played on the same sense for like all of pre-season, but then in s1 it started to hurt and hasnt really stopped hurting since

what sense do you use

[pine roost]

20 when I’m training smoothness and 30 for normal play

Perfect mix of arm and wrist then

[hexed mango]

on 800 dpi?

[pine roost]

20 cm/360 at 800 dpi

[hexed mango]

20 cm per 360 degree rotation?

[pine roost]

Some footage of what motions you actually make while aiming would be nice. To see if there’s any strain or shake

[pine roost]

Exactamundo

[hexed mango]

cause at 800dpi on 35 in-game i turn 6.3cm/360deg

[pine roost]

I’d ask about it on some aim training Reddit sites and discords, you should not be playing if you experience pain that is exclusive to when you aim. I could make some suggestions but theirs would be better than mine

[next onyx]

Higher DPI yields less pixel skip which is kind of essential.

But yeah looking for motions to reduce that strain should help.

[hexed mango]

yeah idk

ive tried a lot but havent found any solutions

[pine roost]

There were a few methods that helped me out with removing tension

But I would regularly lower my sens to say, 50 and forcefully train my arm aim, then down to 15 or even 10 to focus on finer control to maintain smoothness

Have you ever been to the revosect discord?

[hexed mango]

i have not

[vocal zenith]

btw do we know if 3.2 will buff the m5 launcher?

since only engineer can carry them now

[pine roost]

I’ll send you a link to it, there’s a forum section called ‘advice’, make a new post and describe what’s happening as well as your sens and how recently it’s started, try and attach a video too. People there are professional coaches and should help to get it sorted

[vocal zenith]

or is everyone just gonna run the javelin now lol

[pine roost]

Faster top speed an acceleration

[vocal zenith]

fkn finally

[hexed mango]

javelin still more fun

[vocal zenith]

the m5 launcher feels like you lobbin rocks at tanks with how slow the projectile is

[next onyx]

Javelin will primarily function as a long range launcher.

[pine roost]

Well it’s pointing and waiting then clicking, meanwhile the Gustav you can at least be nimble with

[hexed mango]

still better

[vocal zenith]

i wonder if it will be as good as the smaw in killing hellis lol

probably not

[pine roost]

Trouble is that lack of a low zoom scope, I just resort to quick scoping it in order to hit someone flying low

[next onyx]

Probably not as but will still be pretty decent.

Isn't the scope a 2x?

[wide shore]

So, only the timed missions reset after the week right? This is the first week ever I might have one mission lasting too long.

[pine roost]

Feels more like 5

[vocal zenith]

at least the scope notches on the gustav is acurate lol

[pine roost]

But I don’t know specifically

[vocal zenith]

when i leaarned that each notch is ~100m it made hitting tanks a lot easier

[wide shore]

Also is there an updated way to get this Season badge to update the tracking? The portal shit doesn’t work anymore.

[pine roost]

Something I knew already from squad which I’m surprised so many don’t know, but the range on it is mad

[next onyx]

Yeah Poetic I'm not sure.

[vocal zenith]

its working on AoW for me

[wide shore]

My badge is stuck at 964 or something

But I’ve completed the pass it should be over 1k

[vocal zenith]

maybe doing the weekly missions update it ?

[wide shore]

I checked, 964. Did a weekly. Still 964. I can check if it has updated itself today. I haven’t gone on

[slender hare]

what grip should I use on the M5A3?

[wide shore]

I use the LWG grip on like everything

[slender hare]

ok thx

what is it doing?

[wide shore]

Increased accuracy while moving

9 times outta 10 you’re either moving or strafing with an AR

So it’s probably the best bet. BCG light grip might be okay too. That’s ADS accuracy.

[next onyx]

The grip helps with the gun out at a longer range.

Especially with short barrel.

Which artificially decreases your accuracy.

[wide shore]

You might be better for M5 advice. I really don’t use it

My badge went up to 980. But again it should be above 1,000. I didn’t buy any tiers. And I’ve completed every weekly this week, which should give me 49 points. So I should AT LEAST have 1,049. But I likely would have more from xp.

[drowsy shuttle]

i honestly don't notice almost any difference between the LWG and the BCG grip

[wide shore]

I mean I use the BCG on the AK

[unkempt tartan]

buff jets

[wide shore]

It just feels better for some reason

[drowsy shuttle]

im fairly accurate with both.. using one or the other is practically the same

[wide shore]

I’ve tried the AK with the LWG but I just don’t like it as much for some reason

[drowsy shuttle]

fair enough

[wide shore]

I can’t really explain why tbh

[drowsy shuttle]

at least on the M5 i don't notice any difference with the grips... with the muzzles i notice between the champion or the one (i forgot the name now) that prevails to control the horizontal recoil

[fresh lintel]

Im using the AK with the Moving grip and its servicable. Its not a good gun in comparison to like.. The M5, SFAR, AC42 or AM40 but it.. Works

The M5 you could use the blue laser and still shred at ranfe

[wide shore]

I always use the vertical recoil muzzle

[drowsy shuttle]

i use the one to reduce horizontal recoil... i think its easier to control the vertical recoil

at least with mouse

[wide shore]

I don’t really notice hor recoil

[drowsy shuttle]

i notice a bit

and with the muzzel for that its a bit better

same if you equip the champion muzzle to reduce vertical recoil you gonna notice that it helps

at least in a weapon like AK for example

but the grips... they all feel the same to me lol

but maybe they help and i just don't notice, i dunno

[hexed mango]

same

oh shit

nvm

[hexed mango]

same**

[drowsy shuttle]

the season badge?

[hexed mango]

ye

[drowsy shuttle]

yeah i have both badges from season 2 and 3 stuck at a high level too..

[spiral folio]

and time to see if mm does its job for once

[hexed mango]

oh i got s1 and s2 by just brute force playing forever

[spiral folio]

take a drink

mm failed

[drowsy shuttle]

to be honest i dont really care, i don't use the season badges.. i have season 1 tier 1 and never used it

[spiral folio]

guess i'm done

[drowsy shuttle]

because to unlock the season badges you don't need to have skill, you just need to play a lot so... meh

[spiral folio]

was on a team so bad I was like 9th place with 15 kills we didn't beat the first sector on spearhead

[wide shore]

I like having the badges.

It’s the completionist in me

[spiral folio]

I like putting the worst badges on my card so that people think a nub killed em

i wish i could hide level though

[wide shore]

At the same time. They still haven’t fixed the fucking tracking on them

We’re almost on season 4

How isn’t this being tracked properly

[drowsy shuttle]

fair enough... i only like to tier 1 the weapons, some gadjets and the specialists that i play with... the rest is meh...

[wide shore]

Not everyone bothers to get the T1 Season badges since they require 150 more points after completing the pass.

Plus they’re only gonna get more rare over time.

[drowsy shuttle]

yeah and like I said, you don't need to have "skill".. you just need to play a lot... i completed the battle pass 3 weeks ago... now im just waiting for 3.2 lol

[wide shore]

Don’t need skill to get the peacekeeper in BF1 either. But I love showing it off.

This game needs an Easter egg weapon

[spiral folio]

random idea like the SnipeX Alligator

[drowsy shuttle]

lol yeah shame we can't remove badges from the card... but since we can't, well then at least im gonna flex (if that is considered a flex) showing off my t1 ghostmaker

[spiral folio]

nah i put bronze badges from shit I don't even use

[drowsy shuttle]

but don't really work like that.. specially if you are high level... people will probably assume you're just tier 1 those things

[spiral folio]

yea that's why I don't even put stuff I use on it

like i think I put paik on there

[pseudo pecan]

most people dont even know what badges are what

[drowsy shuttle]

but yeah i don't put any of my snipers tier 1 on the card so when i quickscope someone they think im cheating

man, i miss all chat...

[hexed mango]

so basically everything besides grenades and vehicles

[hexed mango]

T1 tuk tuk >>>

[fresh lintel]

Using the AK just to T1 it
SFAR constantly out guns me
Switches to SFAR
Obliterates the team

Its like downloadable skill

[drowsy shuttle]

not everything... some specialists and gadjets (also vault weapons) i don't care about t1... well to be fair i would t1 all specialists if some challenges wasn't such a pain in the ass and/or boring...

[drowsy shuttle]

lol im not crazy

[fresh lintel]

I'd T1 the specialists if the ladies werent genuinely good

But self healing and Spot on Damage/Built in wallhacks and Infinite Phoenix Mi- I mean TV Guided rockets are too good

that and i dont like playing as a dude

[drowsy shuttle]

i would like to t1 some choppers tho... but i absolutely suck at flying... and i don't have the patience or time to dedicate hours and hours to learn and master it.

[hexed mango]

understandable

i just play for fun

only get T1 on shit i really enjoy

[drowsy shuttle]

thats basically what i do... i tier 1 the gadjets i like to use and the specialists i play with... the only thing that i like to t1 are the weapons (even the ones i don't play regularly with) but only the original ones for 2042. (with the exception of the Gol that i t1 because i love it)

[clever marlin]

Finally finished the mastery for the SFAR

now, my least favorite weapon

The AK24

Of the 3 automatic assault rifles in the game, the AK24 is a very weird gun stats wise

It’s got the recoil of an SFAR with the damage of an M5

[shy perch]

So updates tomorrow riiiiight

[spiral folio]

enjoy your freedom while you have it

[radiant prism]

Personally I love the AK-24

[clever marlin]

Tuesday

[radiant prism]

Also update is tuesday yeah

[clever marlin]

Don’t get me wrong, it’s not the worst

I want to clarify that

It’s just

[radiant prism]

What attachments have you been using?

[clever marlin]

The recoils kinda awkward

LWG, RDS, wrapped silencer and I’ve been using the standard mags (extended, not drumg

[radiant prism]

Gotcha

[clever marlin]

I switch between the laser and LWG sometimes depending on the situation

[radiant prism]

I run underbarrel GL, one of the compensators (cant remember which), and 40rd mag and its amazing

The nice thing about the AK-24 is that it is a tank hunter's dream

Even with underbarrel GL the recoil just feels right to me

[clever marlin]

Tbh, I probably won’t run GLs much on the AK24 besides the HE and AP

[radiant prism]

Yeah those are the only two really worth using

I'll run the masterkey sometimes for the memes but I loooove the APGL

[clever marlin]

Smoke grenades are good as a medic but it’s a situational gun

[radiant prism]

Ye

[pseudo pecan]

whats the best way to deal with aa? is it lis or maybe a better loadout option like rao and recoiless?

[limpid pond]

When did they nerf the mcs?

Gun actually used to be good at cqb up to 50 feet

Now it does like 10 damage

[clever marlin]

It’s better WYM

it does 10dmg per pellet at <25m I believe

[clever marlin]

Rao, then move in with TOR

[limpid pond]

Yo what's up with the nerfs to cqb guns?

Like how are the shotgun also terrible

[rocky bear]

How tf do I deal with competent nightbirds?

[limpid pond]

Leave the game

[rocky bear]

Understood

[limpid pond]

That's actually the best way

You can't kill them because once they get hit they run away

They repair then boom shit on you again

You'll waste more time and die more actually trying to fight the night bird then you will if you leave

[rocky bear]

Makes sense but kinda sucks

[limpid pond]

Trust me I know

But it's reality air vehicles are too op this game

Same with the stealth chopper

You get a competent stealth chopper player just stay indoors or leave

[rocky bear]

I don't even mind jets but the helis are just too much sometimes

I get that it's supposed to be a team game yk can't one shot them but goddamn

[fresh lintel]

Stealth chop is getting nerfed hard this coming patch dont worry

[limpid pond]

Yeah it's how it is though. I've noticed with more updates the game is slowly catering towards campers or bad players

[fresh lintel]

Team game but no one on the team pulls out AA or anything.

[limpid pond]

Stealth chopper being nerfed is whatever. They should have permanent infantry breakthrough and conquest for those who don't wanna die to vehicles

[fresh lintel]

Its why when I pull a Wildcat I stay out away from the fight and make sure no air stays alive. Even if it means pissing enemies off enough to grief me or hunt me down

[limpid pond]

I die to vehicles all the time and it's like as an infantry player you can't do shit most the time cause it's a hit and run

Other issue is that most vehicle players don't attack other vehicles

They farm.infantey

[fresh lintel]

I don't mind dying to vehicles so long as I know i can counter them.

Stealth Choppy requires a Wildcat or me learning air vehicles.

And i cant always pull a cat.

[limpid pond]

Well raos hack doesn't last nearly as long as it should so no one uses him

[fresh lintel]

Its getting buffed

[limpid pond]

Yeah I just avoid all vehicles together

[fresh lintel]

8 seconds and allows Stealth choppy tobbe locked on

[bitter skiff]

All vehicles need a nerf

[rocky bear]

I just wish it had more range

[limpid pond]

Ever since launch if I go against a competent vehicle player I just leave

[rocky bear]

It seems capped at like 150m

Which is really close

Idk the actual cap tho

I haven't checked

[limpid pond]

It's bad enough I'm an smg player. Last thing I need is to be hammered by vehicles too

[fresh lintel]

Eh its all you need really.

[sharp marten]

I am THAT guy

[limpid pond]

This is your average tank that somehow never dies

[sharp marten]

[limpid pond]

Like no choppers go for this dude

[fresh lintel]

Because once its hacked: Any Recoilless or Stinger can lock onto the Stealth

When I tank I get bum rushed by coptors and suicide bombers

[sharp marten]

I’m using rao with anti air

“Was”

[limpid pond]

It's actually cringe that tanks can snipe like this with virtually no repercussions

[sharp marten]

I’m 16 and 1 rn

[fresh lintel]

Eh. If they can land the shot they land the shotm

[limpid pond]

Yeah see that's dumb

[next onyx]

Caspian border ru side is fucked.

[sharp marten]

Straight vibin