battlefield-2042

[patent path]

duuduu will do anything to defend activision blizzard because he loves cod so much, he's now making false accusation about me

lol

[chilly dove]

i didn't do either, you literally put words in my mouth. the logs are still here. look it up

[unique basin]

Guys anyone knows how to change server?
No Asia server in PS4 platform

[mental delta]

Idk I discussed about COD with him multiple times and his opinions were balanced I mean he likes it but accept criticism which a lot of people here don't accept about BF2042

[pine roost]

Don’t think you can

[fresh lintel]

I'm not super educated so my guess is: the game auto finds the closest server/players to you.

[pine roost]

Many people are having hard times connecting due to the inability to change regions

[chilly dove]

all I said was that autoaim was somewhat of a crutch. My target was on people who could easily do without it, it was a general statement that needed a bit more clarification but it was never to you directly. you @'d me with anger and decided to hate me after that.

[eager spire]

that is a hilarious statement considering every single time i have something negative to say about MW22 he shows up and says my opinions are bad.

[fresh lintel]

Auto Aim only becomes a crutch when it adds bullet magnetism (Halo) and or is still on MNK inputs (XIM)

[pine roost]

So you were saying that you dislike aim assist basically

[mossy badge]

leave it I already shown you what I wanted to

[chilly dove]

that's all I said

i mean... more nuanced than that but that's the jist of it

[patent path]

accept criticism, yeah right

[pine roost]

Must have just been the way you said it cause that’s a perfectly reasonable opinion to have

[mossy badge]

I mean I don't cry about a game like you everyday I will either play it or leave it

[eager spire]

like i said

[mental delta]

I never had this problem with him tbh, discuss about MW2 sometimes with him and it's fair to criticize this game which has a lot of problems

[chilly dove]

cod has some redeeming qualities. I may throw it under the bus... but i mean what else are buses supposed to drive on. Roads? Roads when we have perfectly fresh or used copies of call of duty game discs?

[fresh lintel]

To be fair if I buy a product from a franchise and its garbage, i'm going to hold an opinion on it. And hopefully the changes I want to see happen.

[mental delta]

Yeah maybe I'm taking risks lol

[patent path]

can't do it here, duuduu is the cod police this part of town

[eager spire]

i mean you need only to look at how he treats other people to see it.

[fresh lintel]

And i'm an Ex CoD kid. I stopped playing CoD after BO2.

[mossy badge]

Yeah bro

[mental delta]

Idk seems like it to me

[mossy badge]

I do exactly same thing that Carbonic do defend the game you love

[fresh lintel]

I mean if hes a fan hes a fan. And i'm a fan of it too but Criticism is criticism. Cant tell people to not criticize a game they bought from a franchise they enjoy or used to. Yknow?

[mental delta]

But how does he treat them ? I never had problems with him and I've been some kind of an asshole though in the past here

[fresh lintel]

Thats my two cents.

[patent path]

and just because I don't like a few things in mw2 he comes and attack me every time I state an opinion about another game

just go to #other-games and take a look

[mental delta]

Fight for the ones you love

[mossy badge]

Trust me crabs these people also attacks everyone who criticized 2042 negativity

When I did it I am attacking

[eager spire]

Petty, obnoxious, generally unpleasant when they're in the conversation.

[fresh lintel]

Like with MW2, I feel discouraged playing the game at all with how unfriendly it is to any playstyle.

You either play with adrenaline in your veins or you camp hard. Theres no inbetween anymore.

[mossy badge]

[mental delta]

Which other games do you like ?

[patent path]

I don't interact with him but he sure loves to bite

[patent path]

currently TFT is the only game I can stomach

[mental delta]

"They're" ? Who are the other people lol ?

[fresh lintel]

I mean so far the overuse of uh.. Decapri.. I forgot the name. That emote is about my only gripe with him so far lmao

[mental delta]

Ha Team Fortress ?

[arctic grove]

i find it funny the mods havent banned these trolls yet so blocking will have to do :/

[eager spire]

they are. i am referring to du specifically.

[mossy badge]

Can you imagine crabs only discussing negative about a game daily and thinking they are smart

[patent path]

teamfight tactics the minigame in LoL

[mental delta]

Ha that's the pronoun thing, I'm not used to it

[patent path]

it's understandable, you are french, you guys have gender for tables and chairs

[fresh lintel]

Okay needlessly insulting a group of people is also one thing.

Its like a group of players in Planetside calling the average playerbase Crops/Bots.

Or worse.

[eager spire]

I'm being unspecific. but you get my point.

[mental delta]

I mean I hated BF2042 for a while so I can't give lessons to anybody but yeah criticizing should always be balanced even though I wasn't a balancing guy for while

[elfin void]

We call them that here too dont worry

Sometimes the AI are more effective than actual players

[mental delta]

Ha I don't play Lol I didn't k ow about that

[chilly dove]

I mean I think I said someting along the lines that auto aim is pretty much just a crutch and isn't conducive towards true competitive play since it literally introduces an automation element into the game which, in cross play, another control method (mouse) doesn't have. I also added that I do understand that the mouse is easier to use and that console gamers should be coerced to learn mouse or actually learn to aim accurately with controller. I also clearly said that I know that controllers right now are thought to be "good enough" by their designers but the analog stick accuracy is ridiculously bad because whenever precision is needed, games use some sort of automatic aim assist thing to take care of the rest. Exploitation of that mechanic is all too apparent. Yes PC / MNK still generally kick their asses with a few clever tricks. (but you know when you've been Soldier Aim Assist Zoom Snapped)

[mossy badge]

Bro

[mental delta]

Almost everything has a gender yeah 🇫🇷

[fresh lintel]

I mean in the heat of the moment even I can understand because even I still call players Crops and what not.

But in a public forum where everyone is wanting to chill? Eeeeeh.

[mental delta]

Yeah I see

[chilly dove]

yes, the dreaded paragraph, watch the hate flow

[mossy badge]

[fresh lintel]

Only one player has executed me while bots manage to do a better sneaking so I can attest to that statement.

[elfin void]

Dudu do you have any other emojis you can use

[mossy badge]

That's my favorite zain

[elfin void]

Executions arent worth the time anyway

[eager spire]

nothing else really gives off the smug energy that they generally have whenever they're talking.

[fresh lintel]

No theyre not but I do it on snipers still

As a funny meme joke

But the bots still manage to do it better.

[elfin void]

1 Casper spotting with his drone all game is more valuable than a squad of snipers, so yeah they deserve the execution

Snipers in this game in general are just not that valuable

[fresh lintel]

I'd snipe but i'm on console and I genuinely cannot will myself to get good at snipers in this game until I get a PC again

[pine roost]

The people who hang back don’t manage to get a whole lot done

They get a kill but have no way to take space

[fresh lintel]

You know unless you're a Wildcat that manages to wipe the enemies air.

[elfin void]

I think DICE should make the tactical conquest a more permanent mode. Its very fun. Obviously iron out the shit spawns and unbalanced sides but other than that

[chilly dove]

edited " analog stick accuracy is ridiculously bad because whenever precision is needed"

[elfin void]

Simply, simply lovely

[eager spire]

honestly, Tactical Conquest was ass, it should've just been Domination. 3 flag conquest with bases is terrible.

[pine roost]

Iwo jima was a great example. Everyone snipes but gets nothing done. One medic with smokes is literally all you needed

[fresh lintel]

I miss the Breakthrough event because Wave 3 is when I started 2042 and the frag grenades had almsot no drop

[elfin void]

The idea is good, execution not so much

Large scale domination

Because you have enemies spawning behind and in front of you

[fresh lintel]

Like near spawn I could throw a nade into A1 or A2 without needing to throw high. I could just aim at the point and throw.

[elfin void]

It's been ages since I used a lethal in my throwable slot. It's been proxy/smoke nade for ages now

[eager spire]

i donno about large scale domination. I'm thinking that Domination, small scale, should be a permanent mode. this game really does lack infantry/small scale modes and maps.

[fresh lintel]

I still use Incen to stop revives

[shut mirage]

i genuinely like sniping in this game. But by sniping i mean like mid-close range. Love the sws 10 with 4 times and then move in with g57 to cap points

[fresh lintel]

Plus fire is funny

[shut mirage]

makes me feel cool

[fresh lintel]

G57 is too damn good. Its a primary gun but in pistol form

[pine roost]

Best way to play snipers imo

[mental delta]

You mean conquest size domination but with no vehicles ?

[elfin void]

I dunno, sniping feels off in this game. Sometimes I am nowhere near the head and get a headshot, other times I'll be on their head and it'll miss. And its accounting for bullet drop etc

[pine roost]

And yeah the glock is nuts. Burst fire hipfire is incredibly accurate

[shut mirage]

long range sniping is a no go for me, ppl move around too much and cant get a shot, plus long range sniping gets outclasses by the railgun

[elfin void]

Basically yeah

[fresh lintel]

That and one burst to the head is a kill

[pine roost]

More likely down to network than the game’s actual mechanics

[elfin void]

Infantry only modes are more fun

[shut mirage]

theres no point in long range sniping, i also just dont feel satisfied using the cheese gun

[chilly dove]

Do you play NA east in conquest 128 by any chance?

[fresh lintel]

Its like the NS Pilot from Planetside but genuinely better in every capacity.

[shut mirage]

feels like no skill

[fresh lintel]

I do. One of my first days playing this game was an execute but it was from some guy that got salty I guess

[elfin void]

Different strokes I guess. I personally dont like sniping at all, but others might get enjoyment out of it. They just need to realise theyre not really helping the team if you go 8-3 in a full game

[fresh lintel]

If the bullet drop wasnt as harsh in this game i'd snipe more

[elfin void]

Thing that genuinely bothers me is people proning in random spots with LMG's

[short lantern]

This is dumb

[chilly dove]

so you haven't been knifed since ay? nice

[elfin void]

I can not understand why people play like that

[short lantern]

How tf am I supposed to turn on vc?!

[pine roost]

Scared to push I guess

[elfin void]

I am very anti-LMG

Evidence

[shut mirage]

i like pushing, esp once everyone follows behind. feels like im leading an army

[fresh lintel]

Just once, and I literally mean executions not melee deaths.

Because I think I died to non execution melees.. Three times?

[elfin void]

Not fired a single shot with any LMG in this game

[chilly dove]

that's me!

[pine roost]

Oh dang I didn’t even know that stats bit existed

[elfin void]

Under profile > statistics

[shut mirage]

impressive, no lmgs

i respect the commitment

[elfin void]

Has it for all guns, specialists, maps, vehicles

[fresh lintel]

I like the PKP because it goes BRRRR. Its stupid fun. Avancys and LCMG are a tad hard to contr ol on console but theyre still insanely good.

[pine roost]

Mine probably won’t be too accurate since I’ve played mostly against ai while I waited for the game to get good

[elfin void]

AM40 is a different beast. I use it for mid-long as well but the accuracy suffers

[mental delta]

But we would have to walk a lot

[fresh lintel]

I think the only weapons I wont T1 are the G57 and SFAR honestly.

[elfin void]

Has a weird diagonal recoil pattern

[shut mirage]

i like pkp too, im better with it than the avancys for some reason

[fresh lintel]

AM40 claps. I love it.

[chilly dove]

I mean it's not really that hard. if you play constant forward movement, you can't actually get executed. the game literally wont allow it lol

[fresh lintel]

Its because the Ava is just good. The best LMG if i'm not mistalen

[elfin void]

Spawn beacons, squad spawns, obj spawns. Obviously take map size into account when making infantry only maps

Maybe allow quad bikes and tuc tuc

[shut mirage]

i love the am40, was the third gun i actively grinded t1 for

[fresh lintel]

Which is fair. I do move alot. I rarely prone. I rarely crouch.

I do more sliding than I do crouching lmao

[eager spire]

Obj spawns, i mean, the whole thing with Domination is that you spawn on the flags you have. You don't get to choose what flags you spawn on.

[elfin void]

Well I wasnt planning on going in depth on how to properly execute a larger scale domination

[chilly dove]

speaking of prone and crouch, chances are players still get automatically pushed out of bushes in this game when they prone specifically. Can't even basic warfare tactic on the Battlefield...

[eager spire]

lmao

lol, even

[fresh lintel]

So far i havent noticed anything like that. I mean ive only been playing 2042 for half a month to a month now

[pine roost]

It’s called having legs that get in the way

[fresh lintel]

My only T1's being the M5A3 and Paik

[eager spire]

honestly, i feel like that should be a feature

[elfin void]

Im waiting with tanks until 3.2

Hope it becomes a bit more bearable

[eager spire]

you try to prone in a bush you just get pushed out of it.

[shut mirage]

whats the range on caspers drone? anyone know? I see ppl sitting WAYYY in the back on the drone

[fresh lintel]

I'm going to miss having Ammo crates on everyone

[pine roost]

Or if you step on a bush you just self destruct

[mental delta]

I forgot about objectives spawns in Domination, but yeah overall it's a good idea, take half the map renewal for example, make it 64 players and we're good

[elfin void]

300m

[shut mirage]

mmm

[eager spire]

hey, claymores exist now

[pine roost]

Oh…

I forgot about that

[chilly dove]

it is the most annoying glitch. you can't move backwards into the bush after it happens or forwards if it pushes you that way. game is like "no sneak allowed" ever since season 1, maybe prior

[elfin void]

Controversial opinion, but I think Breakthrough is a terrible gamemode

[shut mirage]

im kinda wondering if reducing thr range would help. Im not a dev so idk how it would balance. But its annoying to join a squad where all 3 are caspers so theres no useful squad spawns

[pine roost]

If you can’t move backwards it probably is due to terrain blocking you

[chilly dove]

Agreed 100% add me!

[shut mirage]

maybe lowering it so they have to be close and i dont habe to play running sim

[pine roost]

Or it could be a based intentional design decision by dice

[eager spire]

kind of doubt that it's intentional

[elfin void]

BF1 Frontlines was better than Breakthrough

[fresh lintel]

I like it until some hard to kill vehicle gets in a place it shouldnt be in. And some points need to be removed or replaced

[mental delta]

I prefered Grand Operations mode and it would be fun in a modern BF game

[chilly dove]

well then again, I don't like rush or anything that resembles rush

[elfin void]

Rush is great if you have a fun squad

[shut mirage]

i like breakthrough just cause theres ppl. Conquest for me always feels like a ghost town with the large maps

[elfin void]

Flank the edge of the map, place a spawn beacon and go to town

[pine roost]

At least you get to use vehicles in conquest

[fresh lintel]

I havent tried rush in this game yet.

Rush In BF3 was a blast though

[shut mirage]

maybe its cause i dont follow the zerg that just goes clockwise around the map but i dont find that fun just being in a zerg

[chilly dove]

conquest 128 / TDM / and a littel domination here or there when it's picante fridays

[shut mirage]

rush is pretty good

[fresh lintel]

Mostly Conquest until it gets unfun (no wildcat spawns available and a Stealth heli is just farming everyone as always) or whatever

[shut mirage]

rush was my fav in all the old bfs and its my fav in this one too

[pine roost]

They might as well make a separate category for the wildcat to ensure there’s AA consistently

[mental delta]

Rush 800 tickets on Metro with 64 players is as much crazy as it's fun

[fresh lintel]

I wouldnt mind a AA only tank that only did Gun stuff. No missiles.

[shut mirage]

is the ram any good? I cant find a reason to use it over the wildcat

[mental delta]

The fact we still don't have Metro in Portal is...

[eager spire]

Honestly, I wouldn't mind TDM not being in a BF game at all if it meant people ran dedicated Domination servers.

[fresh lintel]

AFAIK it looks like a more AV-G2G vehicle than the Wildcat

[elfin void]

Meat grinders are boring sorry. Locker and Metro are terrible maps. I cant sit still in the same spot for ages

I wanna run around and capture obj's, not have to slowly creep forward through the nade/LMG spam

[eager spire]

Battlefield has not really had good close quarters maps in ages.

[mental delta]

Let me be a dumb mf who just want to get killed unnecessarily

[elfin void]

BF3 had some great ones

[fresh lintel]

I play Planetside 2 so i'm Quite fucking used to meatgrinders that can last for hours days on end.

[pine roost]

Fair enough

[elfin void]

Ziba Tower

[shut mirage]

god i miss planetside 2

[hybrid totem]

As long as that separate category has 30 mm cannons locked in.

[eager spire]

yeah BF3 had a whole DLC of 'em, but unfortunately DICE forgot those maps existed.

[fresh lintel]

I miss it too since my PC broke

[elfin void]

Like just add Ziba as a map

[eager spire]

so they just remade Metro TWICE.

[pine roost]

Yeah. Or else it would be pointless to do

[shut mirage]

meat grinders every once in awhile is fine, i wouldnt play 24/7 servers tho

[arctic grove]

Widespread battlefield / combat >

[shut mirage]

gets boring to me, but to each their own

[chilly dove]

i tried to be a bit creative, sneaky, camo, etc. and then i had the most frustrating time. I thought the devs surely knew about this. turns out they did but they're struggling to fix it

[hybrid totem]

Or just add 30 mm dual cannons to the RAM

It's already basically a mini wildcat

[eager spire]

I like having CQB infantry maps to play.

[fresh lintel]

With Battlefield it can be a little boring unless you can get flanks. But Metro rarely allowed for that.

[eager spire]

I think Battlefield's infantry combat for the most part is fun so I generally wanna do that.

[fresh lintel]

BF3 CQB DLC was amazing.

[hybrid totem]

Also allow us to call in stationary AA emplacements

[fresh lintel]

I hope the Rorsch mk1 comes back.

[chilly dove]

meat grinder map. can't stand it. try to enjoy it by bringing in explosives, most serves ban those on it. like...

[eager spire]

same honestly, we don't need another Metro. Remake literally any other BF3 CQB map.

[fresh lintel]

I never got to play the BF3 Endgame DLC or whatever it was called

[eager spire]

hell, remake literally any other BF3 map in general

because BF3 has a lot of decent maps that don't get remakes.

[pastel loom]

correct

[hybrid totem]

Metro needed flanks on street level, and the buildings above.

[dire cove]

omg open this game with HDD is entirely suffering , took me a min to open

[fresh lintel]

I remember most servers banning Mortars. I rarely used anything besides nades anyways

[eager spire]

Seine Crossing, Tehran Highway, Epicenter, All of the Close Quarters DLC maps, Grand Bazaar.

[fresh lintel]

The close quarters ones would make for good TDM maps

That and I want the FN2000 back.

[eager spire]

The only map of the ones i mentioned that has gotten a remake was Grand Bazaar, and that remake was on BF Hardline.

which means nobody fucking played it.

[shut mirage]

is bf4 still alive? im getting the itch to play it looking at my old stats. I just remember that the player count was bugged so servers always looked full but there was actually like 8 ppl

[next onyx]

Seine crossing would be nice.

[shut mirage]

made me stop playing

[eager spire]

yeah they're fine. server player counts are like that because people don't join empty servers.

I don't think it'd be that simple.

[patent path]

Argone Forest so I can commit some war crimes

[shut mirage]

yeah i figured thats the reason why servers faked player counts. It just made finding a real server annoying

[chilly dove]

I'm sick with pretty much any gun but i'm not interested in OP rifles/MGs or just using my favourite guns. Metro puts me to sleep in BF3, and when I do commit to metro, i just G36C and push edges as hard as I can and eventually work my way up. there's always a hole. but then once you get your team to their spawn, it's just understandable tears in All chat from enemy team. and smoke usage isn't clever. never was. we all know how to deal with it.

[eager spire]

i mean they're all real servers you just gotta join at peak hours, like weekends in the afternoon or whatever

i don't know. maybe they just don't feel like it.

[shut mirage]

god i have 722 hrs on bf4, what was wrong with me

[pine roost]

Nothing

[shut mirage]

how do i find the playtime for 2042?

[eager spire]

also, use Battlelog. don't use the in-game browser, it's terrible.

[pine roost]

I wish I had that many but lil old me had school

[fresh lintel]

Ayyy G36 gang. Yeah when it came to Metro I was always trying to flank.

FN2000, AN94, G36, A91, P90 and PDW?.

I also used an Iron Sight SV98 alot to great degrees of success.

[shut mirage]

i remember being distraught as a kid finding out progress doesnt transfer from xbox 360 to xbox one

didnt matter cause lil me just grinded bf4 again

[fresh lintel]

BF3 Sniping was easily one of my favourite times.

BF1 had some nice moments but after BF3 everything just felt.. Off?

[chilly dove]

SV98 is def my favourite sniper rifle from BF3... well bolt action

SVD is my favourite sniper rifle/dmr technically

[fresh lintel]

The only reason I used the SV98 was because of Alliance of Valiant arms on PC.

I was like "oh my favourite sniper on BF3? Niiice. Oh god it claps."

[shut mirage]

bf1 is actually the only recent bf game i did not like. Idk why but i shelved it after 4 hrs. I unironically liked hardline and bfv and played them during launch

[eager spire]

sick, same

[next onyx]

Bf1 while wasn't terrible, I do think it's aged somehwat poorly gameplay wise.

[shut mirage]

yes ik controversial but idk why bf1 didnt hit for me

[fresh lintel]

My PC couldnt run anything past Starcraft anyways so BF3 on console where I flicked people to death was fun

[eager spire]

i didn't play Hardline during launch, i only played it a bit after it came out on Steam because it was $20

[next onyx]

I enjoyed it at its time but I will say one thing. Its presentation was amazing.

[eager spire]

and there was a single NA server

[mental delta]

Portal is dead since launch, but unlike HZ they can't announce they cut off development for it because cancelling two major gamemodes out of three would have made a scandal lol

[eager spire]

but yeah BF1 sucked shit and people only remember it because it looked pretty. which it does. but it sucks when you actually wanna like, play the game

[fresh lintel]

I actually love the game. I consider it one of the best Battlefield games since 3. Since I genuinely disliked BF4.

Like even the gunplay feels so good to me lmao

[shut mirage]

i just remember bf1 having a really low progression ceiling. Like the 2nd or 3rd gun you unlock is the best gun so there was no reason to grind for more progression

[next onyx]

I don't like bf4 in retrospect.

[chilly dove]

There's this 1 other DMR in Battlefield 3 that's a little uncommon... but i love it to the point of medical concern.

It's called the M1014 using Slugs with a PKS-07 7x scope and flash suppressor

[next onyx]

The only games that really clicked for me was Bf3, H and 5.

[eager spire]

BF4 is fine but playing it these days, people are so fucking annoying.

[next onyx]

H was so damn fun.

[shut mirage]

i just really liked the progression and dlc in bf4, but the maps that the servers always played i was not a fan of

[eager spire]

literally the most obnoxious motherfuckers on the planet are in fucking Classic TDM in BF4

[next onyx]

I miss it sorely.

[shut mirage]

i want the rest of the maps in rotation, not just golmud or locker 24/7

i miss carrier assault, i thought that was epic

[eager spire]

most of the DLC maps in BF4 are not great

[shut mirage]

going into the ship the first time as a kid, I was impressed

[fresh lintel]

Yup. BF3 was my first not even having Rose Tinted glasses: Is still the best.

BF1 I enjoyed alot. Would play more. BF5 felt.. Worse. But it was okay.

2042 is.. It feels way too easy compared to BF3 but thats because Consoles get massive aim assist..

[mental delta]

I would like to don't get me wrong, but it's probably not gonna happen, I don't see any new maps coming to it, they will probably just make a few more seasons for BF2042 and then they will release BF6 in 2025 probably

[fresh lintel]

Back in my day we actually had recoil and had to be good to kill eachother.. 😤

[eager spire]

BF3 did not age well. Venice Unleashed helps but nobody plays that in NA.

so who cares.

[fresh lintel]

Now I can just hold M1.

[shut mirage]

yeah i agree, i will say that I liked that there WAS map variety. None of the maps felt too similar. Doesnt mean that they were all good tho

[chilly dove]

on map like Alborz Mountains

[eager spire]

Naval Strike can fuck off.

just that entire DLC sucks.

[chilly dove]

wait a sec, i wasn't trying to message Way

[fresh lintel]

Lmao

[mental delta]

Yeah you can just hope next game is better

[shut mirage]

i loved naval strike, thought it was fun

[fresh lintel]

Next game better be 2142.

[shut mirage]

to each their own

[eager spire]

what do you mean?

[next onyx]

51K DPS in Terraria let's fucking GO.

[eager spire]

I don't like naval combat. I find boats to be very annoying.

[next onyx]

Recoil has always existed.

[chilly dove]

@fresh lintel If you ever a chance. This game, that gun, that setup. on engineer. in conquest 64

[next onyx]

The difference is that well... You're getting better.

[chilly dove]

there

[fresh lintel]

I played BF3 on 360 and the game had waaaaaay less aim assist and more recoil than 2042 does.

[next onyx]

At controlling recoil.

Try running the SCAR with the Arcom and you'll feel it kick.

But at the same time learn it.

[mental delta]

It was fun, the whole idea of having a whole base you can attack for each team was really good, it was original no matter what people will dare to say about it

[next onyx]

And everything else will barely kick.

[fresh lintel]

I use the AK right now and I still have to burst fire at ranfe

Range is about the only time the recoil actually proves an issue.

Otherwise I can quite literally hold M1 on people on console. Not all the time but... Too much to be okay with.

But in BF3 if I didnt burst I didnt get a kill outside of.. 15m?

[pastel loom]

Good
i don't see the point in using it against controller players, who might have it turned off
it screams noob to me

[eager spire]

I'm on PC so controlling recoil is basically like 65% of the gameplay.

[chilly dove]

Someone's gonna steal my idea eventually. but if you turn a mouse upside down and use your thumb on the sensor, it's like a super accurate thumbstick. i'm just sayin.... i'm just sayin.

[eager spire]

that's stupid.

it doesn't work that well anyway.

[fresh lintel]

If I could i'd play on PC. Coming from Planetside and being able to hold M1 feels criminal to me.

[chilly jacinth]

use a trackball

[chilly dove]

i see one of the people i blocked doesn't believe me but that's fine. I've actually got it working excellently. I wrote a program which inverts the Y axis.

[chilly jacinth]

they're actually pretty decent

[chilly dove]

and i sold it too

[eager spire]

trackballs are neat, i'd like one, but i don't think i'd use one for gaming.

[hidden patrol]

time for backlash... battlefield 4 was kinda mid

[eager spire]

why have me blocked if you're just gonna acknowledge what i said

[chilly dove]

i didn't like it

[hidden patrol]

k so its not just me

[eager spire]

i don't agree but whatever

[hidden patrol]

now battlefield 3

oohooho

still sucked

but it was ok

atleast

[chilly dove]

i liked that one, hook it up to my veins

[hidden patrol]

lol

ive really been enjoying battlefield 5 lately for some reason

[chilly dove]

i'll snort copies of BF3

[hidden patrol]

yea

bf3 was definetly good

[chilly dove]

I had second most handgun kills with the MP443 tact in bf3. first place was a hacker

so i had first place, screw it

[tame badge]

TDM still broken for me since thursday

[hidden patrol]

the battlefield games (that ive played) greatest to worst are probably bf3, bf5, bf1, bf2042 and bf4

i really didnt like bf4

[fresh lintel]

Yeah it felt.. Off.

[shy perch]

I did just tonight whats wrong?

[chilly dove]

i still need to grab BFV

[hidden patrol]

and it was just like 2042 at release

[fresh lintel]

Gamepass baaabyyyy

[hidden patrol]

super duper fun, got it in a bundle a while ago with bf1, bf4 and bf5

[fresh lintel]

At least 2042 so far has been fun. I have my gripes with it, like the fucking Stealth heli. But so far so good

[hidden patrol]

yeah same here

i honestly dont get why everyone hates it

i mean the bugs SUCKED

but its a solid fps game now atleast

[fresh lintel]

Because everyone hasnt accepted that shit on release doesnt mean shit forever

[hidden patrol]

lmao yea

[chilly dove]

I'll send you my Sundance wingsuit M5 kill on the american stealth heli to watch on cold nights

*double kill

[fresh lintel]

Not saying every game should release like shit, but its just the reality of the market right now.

[hidden patrol]

yea

[fresh lintel]

I'll happily take literally that over most of the teams I get

[hidden patrol]

mainly fps games for some reason tho

new cod sucks ass

warzone has gotten even worse with 2.0

[fresh lintel]

Most of the teams I get, despite having full air dominance: Refuses to attack the Stealth heli.

Wildcats refuse to do it too. And die to G2G.

People dont shoot rockets or AP at it despite Lis apparently being the best Stealth Heli killer.

[hidden patrol]

it feels like companies with big budgets want to spend very little time, money and effort to make an unfinished game with a battle pass and a couple of skins so they can make 100x more money than they put out in the first place

[fresh lintel]

And yeah Prestige 2 90% of the BP done, MW2 is honestly one of the worst games I played.

[pastel loom]

that reminds me of the unofficial rule that
if the game wasn't fixed in a year
it'll remain bad forever

[chilly dove]

when the enemy tries to stealth chopper at you, grab your air superiority aircraft; the Emma "Sundance" Rosier, and get to work with your M5R AAM with noob/jerk seeking guidance system

[hidden patrol]

truth.

[fresh lintel]

I'll have to learn how to fly on xbone first

[hidden patrol]

might go get into a squad vc and hop on 2042

[chilly dove]

tbh... they're removing the potential to make battlefield moments like that from the game

all for the sake of the crybabies

[fresh lintel]

I might even just say fuck it and use the plane like it was used in BF3: To kill coptors.

[hidden patrol]

yea, old mechanics that were shown in the trailers themselves were literally taken out

dissapointing sometimes

[chilly dove]

(but it should survive in portal)

[fresh lintel]

The specialist idea is nice. I liked being able to be Paik with an ammo crate. Or lis. Or anyone.

[chilly dove]

I'll do my best as soon as 3.2 drops to make a 3.1.2 gameplay conversion, but keeping in all the new gadgets too

[fresh lintel]

I like my ammo.

[hidden patrol]

it just feels like rainbow six sometimes.

i do like that you can only get certain abilities with certain operators

[fresh lintel]

Mhm mhm

[hidden patrol]

so you cant have 50 different operators using grappling hooks

[remote kiln]

until they add Spiderman as an operator

[chilly dove]

I like the specialists concept, don't worry we've all had this discussion before

[hidden patrol]

oh god no

[fresh lintel]

The downside is that, now I have to play Falk to maintain infinite ammo.

[chilly dove]

we're not alone

[hidden patrol]

its a decent concept, but ive always like the class systems

either way game is still fun

[fresh lintel]

Its a necessary evil I guess to bring back Classes, since Mackay and Sundance exist.

That and its been a staple for years.

[chilly dove]

just hop in vehicle like the nightbird and pretend you're an infantry that can fly around. infinite ammo afterall... and it's so ridiculously powerful lol

[hidden patrol]

lol

[fresh lintel]

Yeah but this AK isnt T1ing itself ;-;

[hidden patrol]

anyone know how to play 128 player infantry only conquest?

i remember being able to

[chilly dove]

that was a limited experience. you can remake it in portal or look there

i miss it too. should be more options on the main page

[hidden patrol]

i thought so, but i wasnt sure if u could just play it

i think rush infantry only is out now

[fresh lintel]

Just hoping they do a 2142 portal

[hidden patrol]

if i can remember correctly

[chilly dove]

it's not too hard to recreate. you just turn off all player spawnable vehicles

[hidden patrol]

gotcha

k im gonna go play 2042 for a bit

cya guys

[chilly dove]

hf pce. go for a knifing spree in game

[remote kiln]

it got removed because it was horrible on half of the maps to play

they're just not designed for infantry only mass conquest

[hidden patrol]

i remember it being fine.

[chilly dove]

same. don't worry... some people lol

[hidden patrol]

id rather that than get killed by a t28 sitting in the back of the map

[fresh lintel]

Some of the new ones felt a little eh.

Exposure and the Nordvik ones are good though.

Or a Stealth heli thats going untouched killing 10 people per run

And then when you get a wildcat, take them out and all their air for most of the match: Getting griefed.

[chilly dove]

I mean any experienced BF player with a mouse who knows how to fly choppers good and understands flare timing and safe play + stealth chopper or nightbird

[remote kiln]

it was a straight defender or attacker automatic win on half of the orientations, hourglass and discarded weren't even close in terms of "this map works with IFQ"

[chilly dove]

or hind lol

[remote kiln]

literally just a horrible experience if you're attacking

[hidden patrol]

nahhhh

[remote kiln]

tell that to people having to run 400m in open fields to get to the objective

[chilly dove]

lol, he doesn't realise we were talking about infantry conquest 128. like I said, don't worry bro

[remote kiln]

what?

[viral oasis]

Doesn’t work

Black screen

[remote kiln]

that's literally what I'm talking about lol

[viral oasis]

Map preview thing doesn’t even load

[remote kiln]

IFQ = infantry conquest

[viral oasis]

They’ve broken TDM & nobody wants to admit it 😂😂😂😂

[shy perch]

it worked for me I havent had the problem wait u on what playform?

platform*

[viral oasis]

PC

Europe

[shy perch]

oh

thats why Im on gen4 PS5

pretty much a differnt game haha

[chilly dove]

attacker defender just sounds like rush/breakthrough terminology to me. but nvm i guess, disregard my message about that prior then

[fresh lintel]

Oh I respect the skill of players. But its just no one looks up. No one.. Really does anything about the air vehicles shooting at them.

And we all can change our loadouts on the fly and put AP rounds on guns ;-;

[viral oasis]

Yeah I don’t know if anyone else on PC is also trying TDM

are we just gonna leave a game mode broken?

Or at least let it throw an error or something

It just broke after the server reset 💀

Someone pls reset the PC Europe TDM servers

[chilly dove]

well the thing is that, the real problem is they have infinite ammo. if you force them to have to get lost more frequently because they're nothing but transports, it automatically balances the game. + it's somewhat realistic too

[shy perch]

idk u have the game on gen4 like xbox on playstation or smt it works there I just cleaned out the servers atleast on oce 😅

[viral oasis]

Mf I bought a PC to not deal with console 😭😭😭

thank you though dude

Good to know it’s working on console at least

[shy perch]

alg

[chilly dove]

whenever i bring it up, the few creepy people who feel like it's sacrilege to balance the game and remove the "staple" of farming infantry players without care or recourse get out their pitchforks at me

[shy perch]

I want to get a pc but I dont have the money :'(

[viral oasis]

what’s the mod mail here

[fresh lintel]

To be fair we used to have the tools to help deal with A2G and tanks

[chilly dove]

and Melancholy, the best part is I'm one of the people who can easily farm infantry with a myriad of air and ground vehicles but i actively choose not to because i don't wanna be that guy

and i'm not alone

[fresh lintel]

I mean i'd do it out of spite but i'm also the type to pick a role and stick with it.

So if I go wildcat i'm sticking in a spot where I can keep an eye out on the air and around me

And i'm making sure I can escape ground vehicles.

Unless its exposure which then i'm staying in my spawn since its the best spot since C and D are.. Right there below me. Where all the action is.

[viral oasis]

!!support

[chilly dove]

i do agree that some of the ground vehicles could use better anti missile/ anti lock features and also a massive turn rate buff for the main turrets too especially on tanks

[next onyx]

Oh yeah the turn rate buff will be nice to see.

[viral oasis]

!support

[remote kiln]

it's for reporting players who break the rules on the server

[fresh lintel]

Eh honestly with how much and fast Wildcat shreds air, i'm fine with it as is.

[remote kiln]

or questions about mod policy on the server etc

[fresh lintel]

I just wish it could aim fully up

Since the match I got griefed, a Stealth heli almost killed me by hovering straight above me

[chilly dove]

i never struggled against missiles of any sort at medium or long range but i always had to just hit reverse in close quarters cuz i couldn't turn gun fast enough. annoying

[viral oasis]

https://answers.ea.com/t5/Bug-Reports/INFO-How-to-Bug-Report/td-p/10940830

this should be fine then

[silk surge]

Apparentely I've been using Zain wrong this whole time.

[viral oasis]

But do you actually get a reply before I get into the hassle of making a whole bug report

Genuinely

[fresh lintel]

The AA missiles just seem to be flare poppers if anything. And I can respect someone who can just dodge em.

Plus it has such a wide lockon range that its.. Fine that wildcat turns slowly

[true fractal]

New map

[pine roost]

that's true, feels strange that it's maximum angle is so low compared to what i'd expect

[remote kiln]

the developers are active on the forums

a response is not guaranteed

[viral oasis]

OK thank u

[true fractal]

https://twitter.com/temporyal/status/1619719222581673985?t=u4_eOpwbK3ndJzHcC5pvhg&s=33

[chilly dove]

Have you heard of the holy book of TOW MIssile on LCAA Hovercraft?

[viral oasis]

oh

[chilly dove]

I have free copies

[silk jasper]

that new flashpoint map for s4 looks cool

[fresh lintel]

Especially since the Stealth can damn near one shot the Cat.

[shut mirage]

i like the tow, feels like theres some skill involved

[fresh lintel]

Like the TOR? I can understand why the TOR cant look up

Albeit I hate when no one bothers helping me when a Stealth heli or.. Anything with wings looks at me or hovers above me.

[shut mirage]

if lis's missile was guided instead of TV, then it would be better

[pine roost]

that's just par for the course

[viral oasis]

this is absolutely mint

[fresh lintel]

Straight up had a wildcat sit next to me as a VTOL jet (not the condor) hovered and melted me.

[chilly dove]

tanks generally don't have the ability to shoot most of their cannons straight up. smaller arms and their AEGIS/CIWS things can tho.

[fresh lintel]

Did absolutely nothing to help.

Twice even. Since a stealth heli tried and died.

[pine roost]

that and a turret speed buff should go hand in hand

[shut mirage]

ehh i dont think any tank should aim straight up and if there should be one it would be the AA but i think it needs balancing

in my opinion, if an aircraft is able to sneak up on you as an AA, they should deserve to kill you

[fresh lintel]

The AA tank is the only one who should be able to aim fully up.

The issue with that though is if a Heli flies up to you and survives the shredding, he shouldnt get a free pass.

Sneaking up? Understandable.

Tanking my damage and is now preventing me from shooting by being straight above me?

No

[shut mirage]

AA counters aircraft (i mean thats what its supposed to do) so aircraft should have a counter

yeah

[remote kiln]

they do lol

[shut mirage]

fair enough

[remote kiln]

other aircraft

[shut mirage]

but i think they do take out aircraft

thats their design

[cunning plume]

snitches

[fresh lintel]

The issue though is that right now: Other aircraft minus the chonky Hind goes after other air craft.

[shut mirage]

ive only had an aircraft tank damage once, and its thos flying fortress condors and the russian heli (i cant remember the name)

[remote kiln]

hind

[fresh lintel]

Maybe a Jet vs Jet here and there but I rarely see Helis go after eachother.

[remote kiln]

because it's not efficient

the attack heli is best at taking down jets and infantry

[shut mirage]

most helis arent designed for air to air combat, even irl

jets are better suited

[pine roost]

Often times they seem to sign some unknown peace treaty

[chilly dove]

In BF3 I made an AA concept tank build. Second gun if i recall could shoot very vertically. then you just had to find a good hillside to get a good angle

[fresh lintel]

I mean fair. But again, the jets seem to just.. I dont even know what they fucking do lmao

[pine roost]

People just need to prioritise other helis first

[remote kiln]

it's because the jets were nerfed to the ground

they're less resilient than paper and had their ground lockons erased

[fresh lintel]

I remember having some form of SOFLAM guided missile and sitting on the Caspian spawn hills.

Jets fucking hated me.

[pine roost]

And the 30ms aren’t really good enough to compensate

[frank rain]

Patch notes please

[chilly dove]

you just need a team of good pilots who can put the heat on enemy aircraft. teams that spot help jets and other aircraft too

[remote kiln]

not out

[pine roost]

https://www.ea.com/en-gb/games/battlefield/battlefield-2042/news/battlefield-2042-update-notes-3-2-0

[frank rain]

Cafe ke chutiye

[remote kiln]

oh welp they are out

[pine roost]

Yeah they released them a week early

[chilly dove]

true i think that is a thing. you can apparently fire a lock on tank shell at aircraft if they're soflam'd? I never tested it cuz screw that horrible lock on weapon in general lol

[fresh lintel]

Yeah it was like.. Auto lock and spot or something. I forgot its been a while.

Jets used to suicide bomb into me though

[chilly dove]

in BF3 if an aircraft was chillin around it ate a standard tank round with zoom optics to help

[upbeat sand]

I kinda miss the M16a3 equip animation since before S2 introduced vault guns, the M16a3 had you look at the gun closer from the sir view and clearly see you flipping the saftey off

[chilly dove]

now in 2042, we have TOR lol

[fresh lintel]

Most of the time I just used Base or AP shells and the shotgun secondary gun

Literally was unkillable most matches.

[chilly dove]

last time i was on Exposure i couldn't get out of spawn with my hind cuz enemy tor was a sharp shooter and was dropping my HP hard and they had jets, enemy transport and other helis on full hunt for me

[fresh lintel]

Just like Infantry, I always moved. Always checked my surroundings.

Always positioned.

[remote kiln]

Hacked targets should now be targetable by teammates, similar to targets painted by the SOFLAM, to allow more synergies with the Engineer class. Launchers like the Recoilless will now be able to lock-on to hacked targets via this method.
YES

[upbeat sand]

I'm still sad they called the ranger not a real dog

He will

He will

In my heart

[fresh lintel]

Those redditors gaslighting me will be pissed.

[remote kiln]

my teammates can finally see when I hack a target no more bull "this target is already hacked"

[chilly dove]

but i guess it's only fair. on my first time playing the TOR even with broken settings, i was dropping aircraft like flies

[lilac dust]

https://twitter.com/Carpo_vp/status/1619627049655873537 ahhh the damavand peak area of breakaway ... I'm gonna miss you 🥹

[chilly dove]

then i fixed my settings, got back in the tor and it was just unfair.

[fresh lintel]

Yeah same. I saw the videos and tried doing AA shit too and.. God its too good.

Like I wish I could use the TOR as a proper sniper since CQC seems to be the death of it?

But then I get hunted and harassed by air.

[viral oasis]

I need it for reporting a bug, not a cheater but even if I was, it’s got nothing to do with you ❤️

[pine roost]

Yeah the changes sound good on paper overall, now it’s just down to seeing how they play out

[frank rain]

Noman will never pay u

[chilly dove]

Kaleidoscope conquest 128 literally sniping condor across the map with tor from roof top RU spawn not long after they spawn? Drake says no.

[frank rain]

Where is credit card

[chilly dove]

Kaleidoscope conquest 128 literally sniping condor across the map with repeated hits from multiple TOW missiles from roof top RU spawn not long after they spawn? Drake says yes.

[upbeat sand]

Waiting for vault vehicles

Not like tanks or attack heles

Just the smaller stuff

[fresh lintel]

The only vault vehicle i'd use is the mechs.

[chilly dove]

in mobility both tanks can avoid quite a bit of garbage from stealth helis

if i were to commit to TOR, i'd just play lis

wouldn't even need repair tool

TV missile all day

[fresh lintel]

Sadly using Lis on a controller is pain amd suffering

[chilly dove]

I believe in you (but i know controllers suck and are harder). keep at it. adjust your settings meticulously and before you know it

[modest ivy]

You know you've done good when the enemy keeps teabagging you whenever they kill you

[chilly dove]

xbox gamer behaviour. or people who watch too much battlefield friends

[fresh lintel]

Once in a blue moon will I teabag someone, rarer to do it every time

I only teabag if teabagged.

But I will also slap on the sweatiest fucking loadoutm

[modest ivy]

I mean I don't blame them. Getting a throwing knife to the face multiple times does hurt the spirit lol

[chilly dove]

the way that thing works man, it's ridiculous rn

[fresh lintel]

Thats when i'd play Dozer and use the NVK shotgun.

[shy perch]

try dozer throwing knife that shit gets me rolling lmao

[fresh lintel]

Unless the knives for some ungodly reason pierce the shield

Oh no its like MW2.

Shield throwing knives

[chilly dove]

which other BF game had throwing knives?

[pastel loom]

hardline and 5

[chilly dove]

and they were insta kil there too?

[pastel loom]

yes

anywhere

[chilly dove]

ugh

[shy perch]

no they dont they get turned into 22 boolets and reflect off the shield

[fresh lintel]

Thank goodness

[chilly dove]

I mean it's gonna happen probably today

me + sundance + throwing knife + melee only

armor plate i guess

i know others get really mad about dying to stuff like that.... and their tears will sustain me

[shy perch]

dozer shield when they turn to run throw the knife

[chilly dove]

i'm not afraid of dozers, i learned how to beat them rq

as soon as you see one, if you can't get the leg shot, you immediate throw gadget at them and run at them but dodge last minute and do a 2D dogfight chase

then u just knife em

or shoot em

[shy perch]

that works

[chilly dove]

mouse really exposes people with slow turn rate on dozer

[shy perch]

execution knife or just stab them through the shield yeah you can do that shit they have longer range then shield

[fresh lintel]

I just throw a fireball at them lmao

Cant block fire

[upbeat sand]

Amo pack+incindeary

[shy perch]

the shield also slows turn speed

[willow sky]

i hate that 😔

[upbeat sand]

But if you do

I'll just use smokes

[fresh lintel]

Exactly. Ammo box + Incen nades and Under barrel

[chilly dove]

actually i saw a dozer tank an M5 with shield before, wasn't sure how normal that is but i was like "respect"

[shy perch]

they also tank fucking tank shots haha

[upbeat sand]

Smokes go brrr

[chilly dove]

wtf?

DICE?

[shy perch]

search it up

[willow sky]

yeah ive done it with armor plates

[upbeat sand]

About 1-2 shots

[shy perch]

they nerfed it tho I think

[willow sky]

Left with 10 hp lol

[upbeat sand]

At launch it was invincible

But now

Nah

[chilly dove]

i can hear that clown music playing rn whenever i think about this game's balancing

[shy perch]

well theoretically indefinitely

[upbeat sand]

Splash damage actually effects dozer niw

[shy perch]

exaclty

[upbeat sand]

Not anymore

[shy perch]

ik

lmao

[willow sky]

I dont mind it, it atleast makes dozer a viable choice

[shy perch]

dozer is the choice of shitters no offence

[upbeat sand]

The bullets that bounce off the sheild need to be more accurate

[willow sky]

agreed

[viral oasis]

https://answers.ea.com/t5/forums/postpage/board-id/battlefield-2042-bug-reports-en doesn't even have TDM on it as a mode

[shy perch]

they also deal 1dmg

[chilly dove]

Dozer already was quite viable. they should've put the shield on his back and made it able to block bullets from there just like a certain evil game

[upbeat sand]

Dozer is great for helping a team push

[shy perch]

it is but most players dont use it for team they just sit in the corner with it up

[upbeat sand]

I with they would give you "damage taken" Xp if the person shooting you get killed by a nearby teammate

[willow sky]

done this and its super cool seeing ur team follow you

[chilly dove]

if i were to play dozer, I'd have it out whenever doing any forward movement and just run at people, forcing them to dogfight me then switch it on em to a gun of some sort

[upbeat sand]

The downside is you get no xp from it

[shy perch]

suppression assist maybe but I havent seen that in awhile

[upbeat sand]

Since the bullets are randomly going in different directions I'd say not the best idea

[shy perch]

its really not that effective

[chilly dove]

i thought you get points for reflected bullets

[dense pier]

Waaaa

[shy perch]

you dont

[upbeat sand]

No

[chilly dove]

oh i know, i'd use it just to get a slight range advantage, find some cover and switch

[upbeat sand]

If you don't see the xp gained thing at the bottom by the kills

You get nothing

[chilly dove]

so no point at all huh. I swore it said something. meh

[shy perch]

just use mackay shoot strafe kill reposition

its that simple and thats why he's so hated

[chilly dove]

what do you mean "just use mackay"?

lol

[upbeat sand]

I'm happy makay is nerfed

[chilly dove]

i'm literally talking about how i would use dozer

[shy perch]

I dont think lowering the grapple was a good choice since the problem was staffing and they just gave them to everyone else

[pearl ridge]

Mackay isn't being nerfed, they just decided to make every class strafe as fast as him. That's honestly worse.

[chilly dove]

i'd literally use dozer to close in on targets from long/medium to close range, then i'd find cover and play situationally after switcinh to gun behind it

[pearl ridge]

Like fucks sake we already have an ADADADA spam problem

[chilly dove]

it's the same thing i'd do in the old cod mw2 with shield

[pearl ridge]

Stop making Battlefield faster.

It doesn't need to be.

[chilly dove]

except in that game there were too many wacky builds to count even with the limited guns

[upbeat sand]

Yeah the grapple didn't have that much of a problem but I still was supprised how the grapple can go to the direct top of the ship of discarded from the ground

[shy perch]

Oh shit I forgot about that noooo that was sooo fun

[chilly dove]

EA/Dice rest of the devs balancing choices are honestly troubling

[upbeat sand]

Kinda imbalanced tho

[shy perch]

welp cant change the devs mind anyway

[upbeat sand]

Cause it was was unfair how makay could skip the zip lines to the ship

I'm fine with them lowering it

[shy perch]

what unfair on the people camping the zip lines?!

[chilly dove]

they invite a few random loudmouths from the community, take their word as gold, ignore everyone else, cherry pick things to change for the sake of balance, but ignore other things entirely. push false narratives that certain things will fix other things

[upbeat sand]

There are different ways of getting up

[viral oasis]

THANKS to whoever listened

it's working now

[shy perch]

they should start poles for balancing

[upbeat sand]

And makay mains where also extremely very obvious

[chilly dove]

even if putting more default repair tools out there will make vehicles get repaired more often, the same crybabies will get mad if they get destroyed anyway and they'll make a thread detailing their ire

[upbeat sand]

They would always grapple to the same area to kill that 1 guy

[shy perch]

is that a problem bc oldmate is still camping in the tower at the top of the map with a railgun?

[upbeat sand]

Yeah the grapple can help with camping

But also I feel like more,people use makay to get to camping spots instead

[shy perch]

but it also helps with getting rid of him

[pearl ridge]

I think repair tools need to do more damage to enemy vehicles. I've tried burning people out but it barely scratches them.

[shy perch]

otherwise it encourages use of anti infantry recoiless

[pearl ridge]

Like come on I'm pulling a big risk doing this

It worked better in V.

[chilly dove]

I got a few repair kills and i was done with it. for a while it was actually broken and didn't work

[upbeat sand]

You cant really use an rpg if your right in front of the tank

So yes

Repair tool buff

[shy perch]

because when you cant hit the man way in the sky throw a rocket at him

[upbeat sand]

You cant throw rockets if your directly in front or you'll a,so blow yourself up

[chilly dove]

you can't even defibulator kill in this game

[upbeat sand]

Soon

[shy perch]

shoot the rocket it was a figure of speech

[upbeat sand]

Ok then

[shy perch]

you can with portal BF3

[upbeat sand]

Don't know how

Cause it just dounds like your saying shooting a rocket

[shy perch]

I dont see how that deviates from my point either

[upbeat sand]

You'll be able to kill people with the defibs in 3,2

[chilly dove]

when it comes back i'll remake repair tool vs knife vs defib vs mortar vs MAV vs EOD Bot from BF3

[upbeat sand]

Well you can rn

In the portal editor

[chilly dove]

so it does work ay

[upbeat sand]

The Bf3 and Bc2 portal classes has the old defibs

[chilly dove]

k it'll be second on the list regardless. i'm still checking the 3.1.2 recreation capabilities.

[upbeat sand]

I'm ready to see how many javelins are gonna show up

[pine roost]

I for one will still use the m5 for the speed

[upbeat sand]

M5 probably could need a little extra damage if the javelin 3 shots

[pine roost]

the m5 3 shots to the back

[upbeat sand]

Huh

[pine roost]

and it's faster, with minimal warning beforehand which is an ideal tradeoff

[upbeat sand]

I swear it was a 5 shot al all sides

[pine roost]

34 to the back, 27 all angles besides the back

[upbeat sand]

Only thing I'm gonna hate from the buffed M5 is more infantry killers

[pine roost]

with no angular damage modifier

[upbeat sand]

Stop

Relying

On

The freaking rpg

And use bullets

I've had people point bank try to take out the m5 then shoot the ground right before I kill them

[dense pier]

I want barret m107 deagle combo waaaaaaaa

[wide shore]

The worst

[royal swan]

2 more days

[dense pier]

For?

[royal swan]

Update

[royal swan]

Skill issue

[dense pier]

so with this class system, I read all the notes, does this mean all the operators abilities are like going to be scrapped

[royal swan]

No

It looks like you didn't read all the patch notes

[fresh lintel]

I hate how much AOE damage the M5 does tbh

[solar tinsel]

Nope, still there - but there is a greater focus on class role. Each specialist is in a class, and class determines weapon proficiency and what gadgets are available to you

[dense pier]

Well, I looked at it and said, the classes was gonna have certain things in it, and I didn't read about the abilities, or something I was like baked as fuck last night so

Ahh

Alr

I did see they were bringing back the EOD bot

[fresh lintel]

The one thing that I dont think was mentioned is the weapons.

Like will I still be able to use ARs as a Support or no?

[solar tinsel]

You will

[fresh lintel]

Thank. God.

[dense pier]

I heard that weapons are gonna be multi class

[solar tinsel]

That said, supports will get a bonus with SMGs

[dense pier]

It's just with certain classes, you're getting bonuses, which I really don't give a shit because dmr is my baby

[solar tinsel]

Weapon Proficiency encourages and rewards weapon synergies, but its not a mandate

[fresh lintel]

It just means I can stay as Falk and have Healing/Infinitr ammo

[royal swan]

It's just the equipment that will be restricted

[solar tinsel]

Yup, those are Support Gadgets

[royal swan]

Also defibs are back

[fresh lintel]

I meant like Solo healing and Inf ammo

Also yeah thank god

[royal swan]

No more Terrible bfv revive mechanic

[solar tinsel]

Right, the ability to manually equip them

[fresh lintel]

I kinda hate being stuck doing an animatiom

Because it dometimes blockrd reloadimg

[solar tinsel]

I'm assuming you still CAN do the other method, as squad revives are still a thing

[royal swan]

Nope, it's always available

[fresh lintel]

I wish I could type on this phone lmao.

[royal swan]

Each class will have one gadget that will never change

[solar tinsel]

For supports yeah

I'm assuming for non-supports you have to squad revive the other way

Or are they removing squad revives?

I thought they were keeping them

[royal swan]

Support has the defib, assault has med pen, engineer has repair tool, and scout has respawn beacon

[solar tinsel]

right I get that

but my point is now you can manually equip the defib as support, like make it the active inventory slot

[royal swan]

Squad revives are staying

[next onyx]

They are keeping squad revives.

[solar tinsel]

and with the manually equipped defibs, you can precharge a bit, or damage enemies

[royal swan]

There are no manual equip defibs it's given to you automatically

[solar tinsel]

But Im assuming you still CAN do the old revive method (interact method) considering non-supports won't be able to manually equip the Defib

[royal swan]

Support only has the defib

[solar tinsel]

you're misunderstanding what I mean by that

I mean the ability to make it the actively equipped inventory slot

sorry if I was unclear

Like you run around with them in your hands

[royal swan]

With this defib, it looks like we can do the old classic revive

[solar tinsel]

right

[royal swan]

Plus killing with defibs are back

[solar tinsel]

because you can manually equip them

(if you're support at least)

[royal swan]

They look like they are one shot now

[dense pier]

did you know you can kill with the medics healing gun

it only takes 2 or 3 shots too

and it has infinite ammo

[solar tinsel]

ha Ive never tried, but yeah I heard you could

[dense pier]

like if you run out of ammo, that's a pretty good side arm compared to what we have

[pine roost]

Taking 3 shots to kill instead of 1?

Yeah I’ll stick to the glock

[next onyx]

I wish to sprint and charge defibs.

[potent trench]

I finally got an Infantry Rush gamemode and...
why is the attacker spawn is too far away?

[next onyx]

So I can charge at people.

No idea.

[potent trench]

a bit too hard to win as atker
too easy to win as defender

[royal swan]

If they make it where you can't one shot with defibs I'm going to be pissed

[solar tinsel]

I'd have to imagine it would be one shot, but I guess we'll see

that said

It seems as if amount of revive health might be proportional to charge time, so damage might scale the same

so it may only be a fully charged defib that OHKs

Might take some muscle memory reworking, but defaulting to one-press LB/L1 grenades will probably be nice for controllers again

[elfin void]

DICE knowingly added back the dreaded 20HP res from BF4

[wide shore]

For squad revives

[hexed mango]

25*

and only for squad revives, and you start health regen after being revived

[rocky bear]

It sounded fair when I read the patch notes but I've never played bf4

[hard geyser]

Do we happen to know a day yet?

[clever marlin]

For 3.2?

[hard geyser]

Yeah

[ebon pilot]

tuesday probably

[clever marlin]

Likely will be Tuesday yeah

[hard geyser]

The mtar got me feining

[clever marlin]

Friday worst case

I’ve been playing the heck out of breakthrough

It’s SO much better than conquest

But I think they should add a 48v48 player breakthrough

[hard geyser]

Do they have 128 still? And yes I agree. Breakthrough is where the Action is

[clever marlin]

No

Just 64

I’m averaging 30-90 kills per match depending on if I’m defending or attacking

[hard geyser]

Ah hopefully new update will make conquest more fun

[clever marlin]

I’m glad they are making breakaway a smaller map in general

Hourglass I hope focuses more on what breakaway is becoming

[hard geyser]

Did discarded get announced for a rework? Honestly once breakaway and that one get redone it seems they're close to done

Oh yeah and hour glass. I like the og map. But I do see the complaints

It's not bad but not amazing either

[elfin void]

I know, but its comparable to the 20HP revive from BF4. You're basically left 1 shot

[deep bloom]

yes with the S5 announcement they said its next

[hexed mango]

well yeah, that's the risk of squad reviving
ik, might make it annoying to be revived, but i think it promotes squads playing within good areas, and securing the teammate before reviving.
we'll have to see how it plays out, but the quicker health regen should be nice

[next onyx]

Yeah I'm not confident in 20 health revives.

[hexed mango]

its not 20hp

[elfin void]

Its a terrible change regardless

Because your hypothetical scenario only works out in a perfect world

Why would someone risk their life to revive you, when all you get is 25HP and probably get clapped

Noone asked for it yet they still made the change. They even know how much people hated the 20HP revive thing in BF4

Do you basically have to run the Tactical Compensator on the SCAR or what

Bullets flying all over except on target

[pine roost]

the thing is, that 20 hp revive in 4 was nullified by the fact that you can provide heals directly. Reviving at 25 without any heals at all is just a death sentence

[next onyx]

I run arcom.

[upbeat sand]

Assault shouldn't have C5 honestly

[elfin void]

I'll give that a try

[upbeat sand]

It's too much of a vehicle destoryer weapon

[elfin void]

I have all but the AM40 at T1 rn, but still dont like the SCAR at all

[fresh lintel]

SFAR is overused on console

And for good reason, its way too damn good.

[upbeat sand]

The sfar has way to little recoil

And deals the most damage in the assault rifles

[fresh lintel]

Hits harder than the AK.

[upbeat sand]

WHY

[fresh lintel]

RIGHT?

[upbeat sand]

They can keep the damage

Just nerf the recoil

It's too accurate

[fresh lintel]

And CoF.

Its supposed to be a hard hitter and yet its as accurate as the AC42 and M5A3.

[upbeat sand]

It sometimes feels more controllable than the M5 at times

[fresh lintel]

It straighr up is on console

I have the M5 T1'd and I still have an easier time killing people at any range with the SFAR

[pine roost]

since there's 30% less recoil I can imagine it's meta over there

probably is here too but I don't listen to the meta

[fresh lintel]

Its fucking stupid here.

[upbeat sand]

How is the regular fast control gun less ctonrollable

Than a heavy weight grenade launcher high power amo weapon

[pine roost]

more mass means less vertical climb I guess was their logic

[fresh lintel]

Its literally K30, PXB or whatever the starter SMG is, DM7, SFAR.

[upbeat sand]

M5 high power has more recoil than the sfar with drum

[fresh lintel]

AM40s here and there. Avancys here and there.

G57 almost every where since its genuinely busted

[upbeat sand]

I like how Makay will actually have weighted speeds

Instead of being a demigod with arm muscles

[pine roost]

and I'm glad everyone else is getting a slight buff to compensate

[elfin void]

Wow its like a completely different gun

I'll give that a try

[pine roost]

jut means you can actually play other people now

[upbeat sand]

High power extended PKP, with an Rpg, a grenade and a grappling hook and moves faster than average

[upbeat sand]

I wish in the notes they told us how fast everyone was by Mp/s

So we get to compare

[pine roost]

more detail would have been nice

I've got footage of strafe speeds for mackay and non mackay so I can have a look afterwards

[upbeat sand]

I guess we can ping a spot and y moving forward and backward

[elfin void]

Didn't they test it already

[ancient sandal]

Just T1 Season 3

[elfin void]

In the beta at least

Comparing movespeeds to older games

[upbeat sand]

Happy that the game isn't a complete meta over 1 character and no one else

unLike those must needs in other games

And that everyone is actually viable

[pine roost]

except for the fact that mackay is the only one viable

[upbeat sand]

My pkp says otherwise

[pine roost]

but once these changes come out it might be more like that

[upbeat sand]

And Nvkss shotgun

I wonder how the new box suppressor is Gonna have something new of is similar to the heavy suppressors

[elfin void]

Very untrue. Most people can't even make use of the nimble trait to begin with, and Zain/Falck are very viable also

[hexed mango]

lel defib is a one hit kill

[chilly jacinth]

always has been

[hexed mango]

ik its so funny tho

https://youtu.be/H0iRNOMtqkc

cant wait to have it back

[pine roost]

zain would be my other go to for the easy kills, angel for the infinite ammo

[hexed mango]

zain >>

[jovial jay]

No love for crawford?

[upbeat sand]

Crawford is getting love yes

[hexed mango]

crawford is indeed getting love

[upbeat sand]

Jesus I just realised I played Fallout 1 for basically 6 hours straight

[hexed mango]

nice

[ancient sandal]

the console dickriding is crfazy

[jovial jay]

But you know whats not getting love from crawford?

[upbeat sand]

Not the fps shooter ones since 3

The old 1997 top down one

[jovial jay]

The bullet spread

[hexed mango]

yeah. i know. you said fallout 1

[jovial jay]

[ancient sandal]

just saw a level 20 Xbox guy kill like 5 guys sitting prone lmao

console dickriding is crazy

i know they are triyng to make a buck but goddamn if it isnt at the expense of a good game lmao

[upbeat sand]

I mean, increased repair speed, turret doing damage to heavy tanks

[jovial jay]

Its stationary, the tank would just delete you first

[upbeat sand]

Setting intelligence to 1 time and playing to see what happends

[ancient sandal]

shits on barney mode for consoles regardless of any horseshit they feed us the proof is in the gameplay

[upbeat sand]

Having it as a MINIGUN would be unfair

Crawford isnt really rampart form apex

[jovial jay]

I'd just get rid of the minigun anyway, mount something like a pkp firing armor piercing on it since the vulcan spread is just too much

You already have the face hole for balance

[upbeat sand]

Well he got repairing

[pine roost]

That repair is going to be pretty stronk

[upbeat sand]

3.2 will definitely make Crawford the best specialist to run in a tank

[jovial jay]

Alongside 5 Lises camping behind some rocks

Those rockets now travel like 600m?

[upbeat sand]

With crawford's trait just get 2 buddies

Never dies

[pine roost]

The changes to armour hunter might balance it out

[fresh lintel]

I'm surprised the minigun isnt a proper AV weapon. It barely handles infantry.

[upbeat sand]

It can shread infantry if the bullets hit

[fresh lintel]

If

[upbeat sand]

I've locked down the stranded halls with it

You just spray away

[fresh lintel]

Oh well then yeah its going to fuck. Its just most scenarios it kinda sucks

At least on console

[jovial jay]

They're bringing the eod back to 2042 right?

[upbeat sand]

Yes

[jovial jay]

Wonder if I can stick some c5 on it

[hexed mango]

hehehe

new c5 drone less go

[fresh lintel]

So switch to EMP.. Got it.

[jovial jay]

But which slot does it take?

[hexed mango]

gadget- so you'd need 2 people

[fresh lintel]

Just like the BF3 days

[upbeat sand]

The swappable gadget

[elfin void]

Show us on the doll where the console Charlie's hurt you

Jfc

[ancient sandal]

The copium when I paid more for my 3070 than they did for their whole setup.

Breathe deeply my poor friend.

[slender hare]

FINALLY, season 4 map revealed!

[hexed mango]

the concept art has been out for a while

[radiant prism]

Isn’t it just Locker?

[hexed mango]

yes

[radiant prism]

Dammit

[hexed mango]

its not but it looks nice

[elfin void]

I have a 3070 too, what's your point

[hexed mango]

same here

[radiant prism]

I also have a 3070

And I fail to see how a console player getting 5 kills is “dickriding”

[elfin void]

Console is at a disadvantage in 2042. Literally no reason to cry about it as a KBM player.

Apex/CODMW2 is a different story, but definitely not 2042

[radiant prism]

This isn’t MW19 where aimassist is a downgraded aimbot. Aim assist is extremely minimal on console

And I say that as someone who started on xbox and switched to PC last year

[elfin void]

MW19 had pretty strong AA but not as ridiculous as Apex

[upbeat sand]

The A-91 is really good

Y people no use

[hexed mango]

vault weapon

[upbeat sand]

I am a vault weapon enthusiast

And vcar

[upbeat sand]

https://youtu.be/ptuhmNUuvrk

[scenic badger]

It'll get more love when you can carry 3 more mags next week. It's good, but I hate running out of ammo

Definitely got on Dcisivs nerves with it last week

[royal swan]

Vault weapons need extended mags

And better scopes

[upbeat sand]

Come on dam creators didn't make a 3.2 performance review

All we know is it's really good

[fresh lintel]

I literally hit a jet with the base tank and it didnt even register thr damage

[acoustic seal]

big mags are illegal now

[cursive cargo]

Does general voice chat works in the game? I've never heard anyone speak in the games I've had so far.