battlefield-2042

[arctic grove]

Would look awesome : )

[wide shore]

They should add a big ass TTV logo skin to the Nightbird. Since it’s always those fuckers spamming that thing

[arctic grove]

HAHAHA

[inner roost]

YouTube gaming logo for Mackay

[arctic grove]

I only use the black guy who places wall covers and recon drone guy

[inner roost]

Irish and Casper

[arctic grove]

I used my coins to buy the no helmet / jacket skin he has

Goes hard

[arctic grove]

New spin off show

[mental delta]

I liked the idea of a several matches game, feels more impactful to win, but it was a bit long

[mossy badge]

Ask hess he is the one who gave the role

[arctic grove]

More like

Doodoo

heh heh

Good one

[sharp marten]

You simply don’t ask for regular role you earn it

Like a GOOD PERSON

[radiant prism]

They don’t just hand out regular

[sharp marten]

You need to become apart of a sacrifice

BLOOD FOR THE BLOOD GODS

now we wait for Alex

[radiant prism]

Alex moment

Where alex

[sharp marten]

He’ll be here

At some point

[next onyx]

He's always watching.

[radiant prism]

Alex imma kiss you

[next onyx]

We love you Alex!

[sharp marten]

ALEX SIGN MY AR15

[mossy badge]

Hess is very kind he gave me the role
Actually I didn't know I can get the role back by asking mod told me

[sharp marten]

Hess’s Dms after people seeing this 📈📈📈📈

[mossy badge]

You don't dm him

[sharp marten]

I’m not going to

[mossy badge]

Modmail

[sharp marten]

That’s it I’m contacting him via carrier pigeon

[mossy badge]

[sharp marten]

How’s your day homie

[ebon pilot]

wha- I want my AR-15 signed too!

[mossy badge]

It's saturday so I got one free day left in which I will be completing my assignment but today I slept till 4

[sharp marten]

Nice man sounds fun

[mossy badge]

How about your day Preston how was it

[sharp marten]

I’m at work rn trying to get the day by so I can go home and play ESO

[mossy badge]

I saw the new trailer of eso

At recent Xbox event

Looks coool but I never played mmorpg

[sharp marten]

It’s not bad I just started getting into ESO so I’m pretty new

[chilly jacinth]

you can play it like any rpg

the mmo part is optinal

[sharp marten]

Can you disable the mmo part ?

[chilly jacinth]

no

[sharp marten]

Bro idk why but hella people have been buying dry wall

[chilly jacinth]

but you dont have to interact with people

[sharp marten]

Nice

What happens when I start stealing and killing off anyone I see?

Will I become a enemy of the state?

[jovial jay]

lol heli campers are fucced now

the 30mm nerf was probably enough to handicap them but the height limit will just remove them

[sharp marten]

POV the supergind mains are absolutely seething rn

[ripe hedge]

👀

[sharp marten]

Say it Alex I know you want to

[placid echo]

Almost done with the DM7 for T1, right before thermal scopes come in

[low timber]

I still need 351 for the GVT.

[sharp marten]

Nice you gonna use the m39

[placid echo]

The EMR? Most likely

[sharp marten]

Yeah

I fucks with the EMR I loved it in 3 and 4

Tbh we need more LMG’s

[next onyx]

My friend joined Dz.

That's kinda cool.

[jovial jay]

how weird would it be to have things like the M1 Garand being added into main 2042

[next onyx]

Reminds me that my clan has lost interest in battlefield and only him and I consistently play it.

[sharp marten]

You’re in a clan?

[next onyx]

Yeah.

fL. We WERE known back in bf5 but like everyone else we have moved on because of discontent with the franchise.

Now we're just an old name in a dying game.

[wide shore]

So apparently squad revives use the medpen animation from portal now instead of the paddle animation

Nice

Anyone know if they fixed the non-reciprocating bolt on the M39 EMR?

[solar obsidian]

if you ever feel like ea do a terrible job with re-releases,

take a look at goldeneye

[fossil flax]

No platoon tags bad scoreboard and other bugs. Can only play with 3 other people and not the whole clan

Not surprising most have moved on

All the competitive infantry players now grinding mw2

[royal swan]

They are adding a death icon to the scoreboard so you would know who sucks ass and who is afk in the menu

[solar obsidian]

me with 30 deaths in exodus conquest being the mvp in the match

it should actually start to remove some points when you respawn seeing at its actually hurting the team

[ripe hedge]

Yes the "spot Alex" icon

[royal swan]

[solar obsidian]

dlss 3 and ray traced reflections when matey

its the one place you can one up mw2

[ripe hedge]

I don't think we have and I wouldn't expect it near term

[wide shore]

Damn.

Thanks for the insight at least.

[ripe hedge]

Like don't get me wrong, we HAVE to fix it but we kinda have larger fish to fry

[sharp marten]

How large we talking?

Like swordfish?

[royal swan]

Man the k30 is just a sad weapon now

[wide shore]

Totally fair

[ripe hedge]

One of them is... Quite substantial

Like beluga sturgeon big

[royal swan]

But I really hope for the Vault weapons to get extended mags

Or 2042 attachments

[ripe hedge]

How so?!

[royal swan]

The drum mag

[sharp marten]

We’re gonna need a bigger boat

[wide shore]

Just use the drum K30 with a medic. Cancel itself out

[royal swan]

The drum mag for all weapons is getting the ads nerf

[next onyx]

Deploy times as in switch times I don't think it matters.

[royal swan]

K30 deserves better

[wide shore]

I thought medics have faster ads times with SMGs? Is it deploy times?

[sharp marten]

I’d say let the nerf go through for now and see the feedback from it and see what Alex and the Homies can change

[next onyx]

Deploy times which were stated to be switch times.

[wide shore]

I see

[next onyx]

I don't think the nerf should go through. Would rather it be properly revised.

We don't know.

[wide shore]

I did watch Maxiq’s gameplay and the ADS with the scar is very noticeably slower.

[ripe hedge]

Sure but we need to find the proper spec for them first. Currently ext and drum mags are impossibly good, not great for the meta

[next onyx]

Vector kind of needs extended mags considering its rate of fire. Certainly it shouldn't have a super quick ads speed but it should be slowed down somewhat.

[royal swan]

Could always reduce sprint with extended or drum mags equipped.

[wide shore]

If given the option everyone will choose the extended mag. Reload time be damned

[royal swan]

Or movement speed

Make people with default mags move faster

[wide shore]

Oh please don’t COD my movement speed using big guns.

I’ll wait to see it for myself before I react too much to it.

[next onyx]

Would rather just ads speeds be affected and not be murdered.

[wide shore]

But the ADS speed change is probably the only option if it needs to be changed

[ripe hedge]

It doesn't matter. They could make you completely static and you would still prefer them. They just give you too much "in combat" time

[next onyx]

Though I do speak on assault rifles.

Lmgs I think with the 200 round mag should receive the worst.

[wide shore]

[royal swan]

Oh yeah nerf the ads on lmgs

[next onyx]

I'd hit assault rifles with half the lmg debuff and Smgs with 1.3x of it.

[wide shore]

I like my big 200 round assault rifle

[next onyx]

Cause here's what I see.

[sharp marten]

We’re throwing hands

[next onyx]

Like I said yesterday it feels like the ads calculation is the same way mag and ammo type is calculated. How certain debuffs are done depending on the size and type.

Since the scars drum is a 2x capacity increase especially with heavy ammo the ads times takes twice as long.

[royal swan]

Then do a mix of slightly lower ads, slightly lower handling, and slightly lower draw speed. Just slightly enough that it's not entirely restraining and useless but not low enough to not notice it

[next onyx]

I think they should just stick to ads speeds for now.

I know what you have in mind though.

[ebon pilot]

this is mine now

[ripe hedge]

Yeah but it's not the only avenue. Since 3.2 the ammo box will be restricted, then we could leave them without much penalty, but lower your amount of magazines. Then you will need to beg for ammo more.

[next onyx]

I was thinking of the advent of drum mag ak24 becoming more popular but people stick to the 40 rounder for its balanced stats.

[ripe hedge]

The thing is, we need to nerf them, but we aren't 100% commited to one avenue so please give us a chance to nail them right 🙂

[ebon pilot]

I honestly find myself using non-drum mags more often because drums often only have one extra mag so it's really hard to keep stocked up on them

[next onyx]

Will you guys not include the changes in 3.2 or do you not have an answer to that yet?

I'm kind of forced to use drum mags on my scar because there's no heavy extended variant.

[polar quartz]

Just drum mags have lower ADS right? So like regular extended is fine

[next onyx]

In reality the scar will only suffer.

Actually the am40 too forgot about that.

[polar quartz]

Default mag is best. Better rate of fire

[next onyx]

You mean standard?

[royal swan]

I have been using non drum mags lately aswell

[next onyx]

I guess but range.

[sharp marten]

POV I need ammo in 3.2

[chilly jacinth]

i dont think i use any drum mags

or larger mags

[solar obsidian]

https://tenor.com/view/dlss-gif-22015332

[sage sun]

Can I run this game with a gtx 1660 ti, i7 9th gen?

[arctic grove]

https://twitter.com/BFBulletin/status/1619386328071962625

Battlefield Bulletin (@BFBulletin)

DICE's weapons game designer (Alexander Formoso) has indicated there won't be sniper rifles in #Battlefield2042's Season 4.

No plans to add the AS VAL into All-Out Warfare.
Via Battlefield Discord.

https://t.co/Swl7kbDOR1

Twitter · Jan 28, 2023, 5:26 PM

You should be able to yeah

the game is very cpu bound and that's a good cpu

[solar obsidian]

yes

[solar tinsel]

I think the only drum I use is the heavy on the SFAR. For others, I do find myself often running standard or extended depending

[arctic grove]

you better work hard for it or else you get no ammo

[solar obsidian]

very cpu bound

[fierce gull]

Alex-7 will we get more scopes like the target 8T

[solar obsidian]

total war has entered the chat

[sage sun]

I remember playing the beta and I couldnt run it, was so weird

[sharp marten]

Why do people want the as Val we already have the gun that’s a literal copy of it

[solar obsidian]

thats like 15 months ago

[solar obsidian]

because they want new things to cry about being op

[arctic grove]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1003428984194859059/1068919193648504862/Zain_parry.png

That Is why I hate the xm370a

[solar obsidian]

noob tubes "am i a joke to you?"

[arctic grove]

get a good spot of cover or flank and then it's over

[hazy musk]

any of y'all have a footage of damage numbers indicator in action? I just wanna see how they implemented it in this game

[solar obsidian]

wait

they adding damage numbers?!

[hazy musk]

yeah

[solar obsidian]

hahahahahahahahahaha

[hazy musk]

like in bf1 and bfv

[solar obsidian]

they had that in bfv?

when

[arctic grove]

yes but you will have to manually enable it in the options menu

[solar obsidian]

thank fuck i never knew

was that added later?

i dropped the game pretty early

[hazy musk]

they are adding it in 3.2 update

[solar obsidian]

im talking about bf5 and 1

where they added later ?

[hazy musk]

lmao bfv and bf1 had them from the beginning

[sharp marten]

I love that zains air burst is going thermal

[solar obsidian]

hahahahaha

[arctic grove]

https://twitter.com/BFBulletin/status/1618676588148846593

Battlefield Bulletin (@BFBulletin)

The "Marksman Bonus" score for long range kills is being added to #Battlefield2042 with Update 3.2.

Thanks @Zook_ABOSAUD for the heads up. Via @wovnHD 📸

Likes

589

Twitter · Jan 26, 2023, 6:25 PM

[hazy musk]

this is the marksman "bonus"

[arctic grove]

DICE is bringing back legacy features baby

[lavish yew]

Question, FNB last night, had bullet speed and drop modifications?

[arctic grove]

ya im looking for that screenshot of the damage numbers

[warm zealot]

The playerbase just doesn’t agree with that conclusion whatsoever

[hazy musk]

none of whom had their hands on the preview build activated the damage numbers

[warm zealot]

Why are you also slowing down ADS for extended mags? That literally affects every gun in the game

[hazy musk]

especially smgs

[warm zealot]

If you’re about decreasing in combat time then that means the MP9 basically becomes a max 1 person kill gun LOL

[hazy musk]

and the pp29 becomes a powerhouse

i mean, a 54 round mag with no drawbacks whatsoever

[arctic grove]

If they are doing stuff to vault weapons I'd love the xm8 with supressor

[lavish yew]

Question, FNB last night, had bullet speed and drop modifications?

[warm zealot]

Look just to illustrate here

[hazy musk]

i dont know

[warm zealot]

HIGH LEVEL players can shoot with 26%+ accuracy with the MP9

The 20 round mag at a typical MP9 engagement distance will hit 5.2-6 bullets on average with this accuracy

That’s ONE enemy down

Now the AVERAGE player shoots with maybe 15-20% accuracy?

They won’t even have enough rounds for one enemy if using the small standard mag

[arctic grove]

https://www.xbox.com/play/media/YLYRTUHDX7 The best (only) battlefield 2042 levelution

[quaint vector]

Complaining so much before Update..

[patent path]

seems like a skill issue

[sharp marten]

Look at what the cat dragged in

That was meant for window

But he’s right y’all bitching about a update that hasn’t dropped yet

[warm zealot]

I did objective math

[sharp marten]

OH NO NOT MY ADS

[warm zealot]

Post your stats

[arctic grove]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1048544574051733584/1068951299472765108/Im_blue.mp4 @hexed mango You will love this. Also @still vault another one for the meme folder

[sharp marten]

Where did you get those stats?

[warm zealot]

Battlefieldtracker.com

Or are you talking about my MP9 calculations

[sharp marten]

[warm zealot]

I check mine often and those of others to see what kind of accuracies people post

https://battlefieldtracker.com/bf2042/profile/xbl/Preston2297/weapons Look just for you as an example

[sharp marten]

Tbh skill issue on your end?

[warm zealot]

The standard issue BSV-M mag has 10+1 hp rounds

You're shooting at an accuracy of 19.9%

On average you're just going to land 2 shots with the standard mag

That's not a kill unless one of them is a headshot

[next onyx]

We have seen an in game demonstration and it looks bad.

[warm zealot]

You can make memes all you want but trust me it's not a good direction for infantry gameplay

[sharp marten]

Fair enough

[next onyx]

3 hit kill over 74m.

[sharp marten]

But still

[next onyx]

It's not a hard gun to use at a range.

[warm zealot]

It's 4 hit kill above a certain range too

[sharp marten]

Skill issue

[warm zealot]

https://battlefieldtracker.com/bf2042/profile/origin/colossalcrungus/overview

My stats

[sharp marten]

On my end and yours

[warm zealot]

I'm literally one of the most skilled infantry players in NA but ok

[next onyx]

Average accuracy stat might be a thing but there'll always be wasted rounds when you fire.

[sharp marten]

Yup complete skill issue

[warm zealot]

I played with standard mags exclusively last night and I did have to play a lot more cautiously and aim better

I performed about the same but honestly couldn't support my team as well because I would hang back more

[quaint vector]

Oh my... What Am I even reading...

[next onyx]

I dunno I'm having a brain attack.

[sharp marten]

It’s not that serious

[patent path]

aim at guy, shoot guy

[quaint vector]

kill guy

[next onyx]

Use scar.

Aim scar.

Fire scar.

Improve your aim. Don't care about accuracy just fire.

[sharp marten]

Drive tonk shoot tonk tonk 🙂

[jovial jay]

Bf is easy

2042 is easier

[sharp marten]

I have 126 hours playing Irish damn

[jovial jay]

Rorsch

[arctic grove]

https://www.xbox.com/play/media/BTUKN3HXAY Skill Issue

[hexed mango]

disgraceful to the lord

[hybrid totem]

Are there categories to this? Feel like there should be

[warm zealot]

Categories?

[night vessel]

Hopefully we see a naval action map

[true fractal]

i love this game so much!

[white geyser]

I miss using the attack boats back in BF4, but now I want a naval map in 2042 they better not forget to add the attack boats

[spiral folio]

Naval would suck on an infantry game

You know what todays navy would be like vs tanks and infantry on land
-looks at computer-
"targets here firing order"
"Target confirmed launching"
-press button-
[Missiles launch]
-watching intensifies-

[acoustic seal]

it's 10-20 more rounds and people run them because being able to deal with the body spam in this game makes the longer reload and reduced max ammo acceptable, it's really not that deep

[spiral folio]

Thrilling

-whole map destroyed-

Itd be like adding a MLRS

Fire from 20 miles

Get kills

Or to quote a russian general
"They sit around press a button. And we die."

[uncut bay]

space warfare

shoot a thing, wait 5 hours, splash one

[spiral folio]

In a story ive been writing the US uses an orbital insertion fighter that reenters uses a high power laser and bombs, then goes back to orbit. But i haven't been able to replicate it on ksp

[uncut bay]

that sounds like overengineering

but more power to you where can i read it

[spiral folio]

Well treaties prevent orbital weapons

[uncut bay]

true

[spiral folio]

So to skirt that, it diesnt stay in orbit

[uncut bay]

it's a cool idea but practically it has to be a nightmare

all that delta v

[spiral folio]

The basic plot is a group of students about to graduate finds out theyre part of some elaborate experiment to create genetic modified soldiers. They believe theyre in like alaska or montana but it's south central russia

Yea the delta V is really hard to overcome far as the fighter goes.

Ive had some success using a rocket stage to reach orbit

Itd be easier with that rotating detonation engine

[uncut bay]

must be a fun project at least

[spiral folio]

Yea it was a good therapy kinda thing to do but ironically i dont work on it when I'm less stressed

Wrote most of it during the army

[limber raft]

Taking a look at Alexander's reaction on Twitter, I'm not sure if he was trolling or just having a honest talk with the community. I don't know.

[quaint vector]

[spiral folio]

He is my enemy now

[formal hawk]

Am I reading this right? Only TWO specialists are gonna be able to use the Recoilless M5?

[limber raft]

Me or Alexander? 😄

[formal hawk]

How is everyone else supposed to deal with vehicles now?

[spiral folio]

Alex

I mean not really maybe hes joking but EA hates snipers so it computes

[spare quest]

AP ammo

[spiral folio]

XD

Good one

[topaz field]

I wonder if LMG's will get a ADS reduce as well they're too easy to shoot. @ripe hedge

[sharp marten]

Uh C5

[topaz field]

Lmfao

[sharp marten]

?

[topaz field]

I'm laughing at his comment

[sharp marten]

?

[topaz field]

You blow them up

[sharp marten]

I’m sorry I’m just fucking around

[topaz field]

That's how you handle vehicles

[formal hawk]

So.... what if they're at a distance

[spiral folio]

"This would be where my tracer dart would go." -points at enemy vehicle- "IF I HAD ONE"

[formal hawk]

in flat terrain

[spiral folio]

I was uncannily good with a tracer in bf play4free

Class nerf adds it again i think

I forget who has it

I cant wait to use both tracer darts before running out of ammo

[sharp marten]

Oh shit it’s bfbulletin BE COOL

[spiral folio]

Don't know em

[sharp marten]

leans on ferrari

What’s cooking good looking

[spiral folio]

Scared em off

Mission success

[sharp marten]

:|

[spiral folio]

The suspense is terrible

I hope it'll last

[remote kiln]

there's no way that's the real bfbulletin

[spiral folio]

Yea whoever the real one is

I can only guess its a bf fan who likes gellatin

[sharp marten]

it HAS TO BE

[spiral folio]

Made from bulls

[sharp marten]

LET HIM COOK

Dude is writing a 12 page essay I’m intrigued now

[hybrid totem]

Yeah, there's just so many ways to play infantry I'm not sure how you'd declare skill level

[spiral folio]

Or he sat on his phone and sometime presses

[limber raft]

Real BF fans like eating pizza. Pineapple free, of course.

[spiral folio]

Pizza and pineapple free is a bit redundant

[hybrid totem]

Anchovies forever

[soft swallow]

Is Battlefield Play4Free still available?

[hybrid totem]

Pineapple and anchovie pizza is the greatest taste ever

[soft swallow]

I mean I have all Battlefield games but if I wanna play some Battlefield with my friends it would be cool

[spiral folio]

Not in the same day

[soft swallow]

Gigachad 👌

[spiral folio]

I skipped 3/4 and the parade of modern variants loke bc bc2 hardline etc

As varied as Stephen kings writing

[hybrid totem]

Remember to combine pineapple juice and anchovie preserve, stir well, and use that as sauce instead of tomato paste

[spiral folio]

Anyway

[remote kiln]

long gone lol

[soft swallow]

I'm gonna cry

[spiral folio]

Yea

When EA cancelled its whole cash shop system they cut ALL the games

Even though p4f and heroes were doing fine there was some racing game and a soccer game that drug em down

[acoustic seal]

accuracy and headshot ratio on automatics, kpm and k/d per weapon if available

[hybrid totem]

Do you factor in teamplay at all? Or just on an individual basis?

And now do snipers fit in?

[acoustic seal]

you can't verify whether revives are good or garbage from API stats

they don't lol

snipers would have inflated HSR due to how they work

it would skew the rest of the stats

[hybrid totem]

So your idea of what makes an infantry skilled is exclusively determined by how many bullets they can put in an enemy?

[pine roost]

only real way is to watch their gameplay and deduce from that

[acoustic seal]

well yeah, killing people progresses the game in a first person shooter

[hybrid totem]

What about medics or repair engineers

[pine roost]

someone can camp and engage no brain function whatsoever, abuse the low risk high reward strategies and look like a good player in stats pages

[hybrid totem]

This is a team based game after all, or supposed to be

Enabling others to continue killing is as useful as killing, no?

[sharp marten]

I don’t take KD in battlefield seriously at all

[pine roost]

it's really my only way of gauging progress since there is no ranked mode

that alongside simply watching how i play compared to better people

[hybrid totem]

I say a successful bf player is one who knows how to have fun while playing battlefield. It's very binary. Because it's a game

[sharp marten]

Yeah that’s can be a fair view

But that dude flexing his kid earlier literally no one gives a shit

[pine roost]

my fun comes from improvement and mastery of mechanics

[acoustic seal]

the question was about skill, you can't determine effective revives and repairs from raw number count so they're not factored in

[pine roost]

KD can be meaningless if they play in a way that pads stats and displays no proper gamesense, would be cool if we had more detailed stats to view proper progress

[sharp marten]

My favorite part about bf is the infantry and vehicle play they tried that on cod and it’s dogshit

[acoustic seal]

it's honestly better to ignore k/d and look at acc * hsr with kpm since you don't have individual weapon k/d available in 2042

[pine roost]

it adds some depth to the overall experience. Loads of different skillsets for each aspect of the game that is just so fun

[sharp marten]

I don’t think I’ll ever see myself as a pretty good player I’m more below average I guess

[pine roost]

KD is the first thing i look at though since it's easily accessible. For me a death is a mistake, so the fewer deaths I have the fewer mistakes I made

[crude surge]

If you've got at least a 1.0 K/D you're better than a bot

1 kill per death at the least cancels itself out in the grand scheme of the game

[hybrid totem]

Guess I kinda suck at the game, being a transport main and all

But close to 40000 assists, that's gotta count for something right?

Except I'm sure it will be compared to Casper mains or soflam mains

[acoustic seal]

if the game counts shit like drone spots in with actual kill assists then it's a worthless metric

[pastel loom]

for sure no
they're completely different

that's just spot assist

[hybrid totem]

I'm in the top 0.2% of road kills, that's pretty cool

[sharp marten]

That’s where you’re wrong transport mains are a pretty big key strat in this game so as far as I’m concerned you’re pretty good

[nova idol]

When will dice add bf1942 weapons to AOW

[pine roost]

it contributes to the game if you can get enough kills to control space and clear objectives, that's where the whole stats issue is a problem

[hybrid totem]

I'm being facetious, I know full well that kd is barely indicative of skill in a game like this

But thank you

[nova idol]

Transport vehicles are a meanace if A. The pilot is good and B. The other people on your team have enough braincells to recognize when youre sweeping in to drop them on an obj

[hybrid totem]

Remember the MAV is a transport too, but otherwise the point stands

Also hind and condor can be flying gunships with a proper crew

Don't need to be exclusively spawn points

One is my favorite strategies as a transport is to reinforce infantry who are pushing objectives. They protect me from rockets too

[arctic grove]

return of mav drone when

[remote kiln]

that's the most chad stat flex I've ever seen

[mental cave]

this is why i commit voters fraud and vote twice in elections

my KD is always positive

[royal swan]

My kd was terrible at launch

Like almost below 1

[errant scarab]

Hi

[royal swan]

Oh maybe I can finish my bingo card this time

[errant scarab]

-90% low steam chart

[royal swan]

That's one

[sharp marten]

I’ll add it to my bingo card as well

[royal swan]

I need 4 specific topics from you to get a bingo

[sharp marten]

2042 literally lives rent free in her head

[silk surge]

I have officially peaked.

[royal swan]

Back to the kd

During season 1 I was able to get my kd up

Now it's sitting at 1.62

[sharp marten]

Yeah my kd at the beginning was doodoo as well

I sit at like 1.65 I think

[royal swan]

Thanks to the avancys and railgun

[sharp marten]

[silk surge]

I think my KD was 2.2ish when Battlefieldtracker started working... Now it's like 2.91.

[royal swan]

I plan on getting 2 kd

But I need to stay at 6000 deaths and get my kills up to 12000

It's currently around 9500 kills

[sharp marten]

I respect the grind

[royal swan]

I'm not aggressive, more of a team player

The reason I got a t1 ammo crate and spotting nades first than t1 any specialist or gun

[hybrid totem]

I'm terrible at solo infantry play tbh, I need other players to be good at what I do

And that is not typically shooting enemies

[royal swan]

I carry my pride around that t1 ammo crate

[hybrid totem]

I'm so close to t1 repair tool

[royal swan]

Any chance I get I use that ammo crate for everyone and myself

Also I'm god at medic

Last time I went to the top score was when I got 49 revives

[acoustic seal]

how many of them stayed alive for more than 5 seconds and/or went on to get a kill?

[royal swan]

Most of them stayed up

But there has been a couple

That pissed me off

The most competitive I ever was, was racing to revive people before the other medics did

[warm zealot]

Top frag basically every lobby I’m in pushing objectives and killing enemies

[hybrid totem]

What is top frag

[royal swan]

Top score?

[hybrid totem]

That was my guess too

Or top kd maybe, but not if he's playing infantry

Oh yeah and are we talking conquest, breakthrough, or rush?

[royal swan]

I main BT

[hybrid totem]

Or even... Blech, tdm?

[royal swan]

Breakthrough

I don't touch conquest much

Also I'm a god tier on transport heli on BT

[hybrid totem]

My point being there's different skill sets for each mode, so you'd have to judge skilled players differently

[royal swan]

Tip for transport heli users, always keep moving

Never stop

[hybrid totem]

Except when you need your gunners to shoot something

[royal swan]

You are a transport not an attack

[warm zealot]

https://youtu.be/RUITLVr4OH0

[royal swan]

If you want to focus a objective

Circle it

If you are getting hacked, flares and dip away behind cover

[hybrid totem]

You don't always have to flare when hacked, it depends on how close you are to cover

There's also something very powerful about a hovering transport while gunners don't have to compensate for movement

[sharp marten]

I remember awhile back a dude wanted the flare time be like 3 minutes until you got new flare

[hybrid totem]

Sounds like an infantry main

[acoustic seal]

rao hack should be on a 3 minute cooldown

[hybrid totem]

Ouch

[acoustic seal]

especially now that it marks you for death jfc

[hybrid totem]

If it were, the firewall it spawns should be that long too

[royal swan]

I don't take chances on Rao hack

I flare and dip

Sure enough there will be multiple rockets coming at you

[hybrid totem]

Sometimes you can withstand the hack with some quick cover, then come back faster with flares still available

Gotta read the battlefield

How about: a lock on firewall! Once someone locks on to a vehicle, that vehicle becomes immune to lock on for a little bit

Or once it gets hurt by a lock on

Even better, a damage firewall

[royal swan]

I know that, I usually bait them, but when over objective when playing BT

I don't take the chances

[hybrid totem]

Oh right, in breakthrough you can be sure of constant locking

[astral gazelle]

Is there a way for me to stay solo in 2042?

In other words, I don't wanna be in a squad

[quaint vector]

Nope

[astral gazelle]

RIP DICE

None of my squadmates spawned in my attack heli to gun for me. I was worried the moment I switched seat, one of them might steal it

[quaint vector]

Even when you create Party that is private, your Squad in the server will still be filled..

[astral gazelle]

What the hell 😩

[solar tinsel]

I mean, it's not really stealing if you've made the choice to give up the seat 😆

[vale merlin]

there’s no squad controls, but then there’s also no squad incentives

[solar tinsel]

unfortunately

[astral gazelle]

Would you like it when someone take control and crash it?

[solar tinsel]

Hotswapping is fun and all, but it's always a risk!

[vale merlin]

one can only hope it’s on the agenda for the future. Darko, Oliver and others who seem to be left working on 2042 seem to finally be listening to us players

[solar tinsel]

The progress has been consistently improving since Season 1, and 3.2 looks incredibly promising

[vale merlin]

it’s almost enough to make my platoon move from BF4

[solar tinsel]

I think it comes down to if they intend to simply enter a "content only" mode with Season 5 and beyond, and slow down on QoL stuff

[vale merlin]

I think odds are likely they will do that. There’sno financial incentive to continue work on a failed product beyond what’s contractually obligatory

and a bunch of dice devs have said they are no longer working on 2042.

[solar tinsel]

for sure - and since 2042 isn't (nor perhaps ever was) designed to be an ongoing service game, it ultimately will follow the same cycle as other games before it which eventually become a hold-over until the new title is ready

I suppose 2042 was positioned as an ongoing live service game, but it quickly became evident it wouldnt be 😆

and I kind of qualify as "ongoing" as in, intent to support with content and QoL features beyond 2 years

[vale merlin]

I’m hopeful but not optimistic. The only reason to continue with content is to generate money. Dice isn’t a charity

And I can’t imagine they’re making much money on their store

Certainly not enough to pay dev salaries for those working on it

[fiery hamlet]

Hello

[vale merlin]

Howdy

[hybrid totem]

Oh, you're one of those squad mates.

It's so common I wouldn't be surprised if some people wait for the driver seat to be empty just so they can take it for themselves

[bitter skiff]

move yr meat / lose yr seat

[hybrid totem]

Driver seat really ought to be the last one filled from the spawn screen

I also believe that you should be able to spawn outside a full transport

Then again, I also think spawns should count toward mav mastery, but they aren't

[tardy tree]

we need a map with laboratory on a volcano

like some seismic research type shit

[hybrid totem]

Arguably exposure was researching earthquakes

[tardy tree]

but volcano

[royal swan]

New idea for mortar nerf, instead of having them as equipment, have it like the robot dog where you call it in like some care package

And once all mortar shells are depleted, the mortar disassembles

And like the dog there could only be a limited amount on the field. And there is a recharge rate until you can call another and there is a personal timer once you use it (can't call another after immediately using one)

[hybrid totem]

Are we nerfing gadgets that haven't even dropped yet?

[acoustic seal]

new idea, please stop adding indirect fire mechanics into the game

i would like to die to another player and not their robot dog or killstreak call-in

[royal swan]

If it was any other gadget I wouldn't label nerfs, but since it's about mortars, then I discuss

It's not a battlefield game without indirect fire

[pine roost]

Based

[hybrid totem]

This is no kill streak call in. This is something that's just always available

What is this, cod?

[bitter skiff]

quit adding honeycomb hideouts to this game!!!!!!

[tardy tree]

bro what

[bitter skiff]

bro

[royal swan]

Are javs a lock on or can you fire and forget them

[hybrid totem]

I'll let you know when they release...

For real though, it's probably like stingers for the ground

[royal swan]

If so then we got our bootleg mortar

[hybrid totem]

We already have our bootleg mortar then, Lis's rocket

[acoustic seal]

that's great but bf1 would've played so much better if holding an area didn't immediately attract single celled organisms sitting on airburst mortar in their spawn

[royal swan]

Lis is a bootleg ap mortar

[hybrid totem]

Does AP mean antipersonnel to anyone else?

[royal swan]

Armor penetration

[uncut bay]

armor penetrating

[hybrid totem]

Just call it AA then

Anti armor

[acoustic seal]

anti aircraft

[royal swan]

That's anti air

[hybrid totem]

That was my point

[uncut bay]

armor piercing

[hybrid totem]

So what's the acronym for antipersonnel

[uncut bay]

ap, but you clarify that it means anti personnel

[acoustic seal]

AI anti-infantry

[royal swan]

HE is usually anti personal

[hybrid totem]

That's high explosive

It is used in antipersonnel applications

Of course, are we talking real life, or just in battlefield

[royal swan]

Battlefield

I really wish we can fire and forget the jav

Really cool way to kill someone

A stationary sniper, just jav them

[acoustic seal]

lis missile but even less interaction

[limpid pond]

Observer you're wrong

Doesn't matter what you say

You're just wrong

[royal swan]

Jav is technically direct fire

[limpid pond]

Nope

It's indirect fire

[royal swan]

See the target, aim, and fire like any rocket

[limpid pond]

Nope

[royal swan]

Except the jav has an arch

[limpid pond]

See the target aim lock on then try to shoot but rocket jams thsn boom off to the side

[hexed mango]

it has two modes: Direct Attack and Top Attack
Top flies in from the top (hence the name), and Direct is a straight on approach

[limpid pond]

Wrong

[hexed mango]

no.

thats literally what the patch notes say

[limpid pond]

It's has 3

Direct indirect and attack

[austere tide]

👀 …

[limpid pond]

No patch notes are wrong

I'm always right

[hexed mango]

no

[limpid pond]

Yes

[royal swan]

We should remove smgs

[hexed mango]

no

[limpid pond]

You bastard

[royal swan]

Yeah

[hexed mango]

haey

[limpid pond]

How dare you

You should be banned for that

[royal swan]

Well if not, enjoy the ads on the drum mag

[hybrid totem]

Remove m5s for sure

[arctic grove]

wait wut

[hexed mango]

i was desperately trying to find videos of the 3.2 preview where people fucking revived but all the videos i watched everyone never revived

[limpid pond]

How can a musical instrument be a mag?

Makes no sense

[hexed mango]

mayonnaise

[royal swan]

I watched a video where a guy is killing with the defib

[drowsy shuttle]

you were watching a battlefield video alright

[hexed mango]

Changed Angel's Loadout Crate to allow you to customize each individual slot in your loadout.
clutch

[hexed mango]

tru

[limpid pond]

Specifically a 2042 video

We all know mfers don't revive

[royal swan]

Killing with defibs are back. Fuck you bfv revive mechanic

[hexed mango]

The SG-36 Sentry Gun ammo caliber has changed and can now deal damage to heavy vehicles.
Deals about 0.6-0.8% dmg per shot.
Reworked the SG-36 Sentry Gun’s target prioritization. It will now focus target vehicles primarily, unless infantry is within 25m of the Sentry Gun.
finally a boris buff
you know what this means

[limpid pond]

Would be funny if you could stab someone with the syringe in bfv

Like a crazy eye stab would be sick

[royal swan]

Give syringe as melee

[arctic grove]

I assume the sentry’s new caliber does higher infantry damage

[limpid pond]

Nah they should add nunchucks

[royal swan]

It doesn't kill you it just gives you aids

[hexed mango]

i cant wait to use thermals on zain's xm3

[limpid pond]

Or a robot arm like in bf3

Also I want a execution where you make the person slap themselves

That would be great

[royal swan]

Claymores are now justified

[hybrid totem]

Any execution that takes longer than the default animation is worse

[limpid pond]

Claymores were never justified

[royal swan]

No more camping claymores on ladders or rope

[limpid pond]

Limits cqb

[royal swan]

And they are bigger in size with less explosives

[acoustic seal]

gonna take a wild guess and say the exclusion zones won't be nearly big enough

[limpid pond]

That's what she said😭😭

[acoustic seal]

ideally they should cover the whole map

[royal swan]

[arctic grove]

Stop hitting yourself

[limpid pond]

Lmao yeah then shoot them in the head

[shut mirage]

im just gonna run angel and ammo crate and spam claymores :)

[hybrid totem]

Link each claymore to the heartbeat of the person who lays it down. When the claymore blows, their heart explodes

[limpid pond]

Make them smack themselves twice then shoot them

[white geyser]

Still doing the C4 explosive using the bikes in 2042

[limpid pond]

Would be pretty good

[royal swan]

Oh they despawn btw if you place more

[shut mirage]

wow they something right

[arctic grove]

Pro gamer suggestion: Hacking a Lis who’s using the sky breaker skin makes her unable to move because the exoskeleton system /j

[shut mirage]

now if only they could fix ammo counts being correct

[arctic grove]

AM40?

[royal swan]

Am40 doo doo

[shut mirage]

that comes to mind but theres a bunch of other ones

[arctic grove]

There’s more?

Interesting

[acoustic seal]

did they ever revert the silly ass 1.25 headshot multiplier on smgs?

[royal swan]

No

[shut mirage]

sometimes i run the the standard mag cause the drum mag give like 10 more instead of 20 and its not worth the extra reload time and low reserve

[royal swan]

Smgs are still dogshit

[shut mirage]

AM40 pretty good, i like it

[arctic grove]

No, but I don’t think the K30 needed it’s old value

[shut mirage]

i havent played since launch but smgs seems worse, idk what happened over the year

[arctic grove]

It’s not exactly hard to hit headshots when your gun is at 1100(?) RPM

[shut mirage]

mp9 was my fav 1 yr ago but now it doesnt kill anything

[arctic grove]

But I also don’t really like the AR headshot modifier either

[shut mirage]

the pp still feels consistent

[white geyser]

The PP29 still good haven’t use for a while

[shut mirage]

for sure, most of the guns dont feel consistent to me

pp29 is not one of them

idk what they did to the mp9 but i doesnt get kills and it takes like 30 bullets to kill someone

[arctic grove]

I mean MP9 and K30 were questionable but I’ve never objected much to the PBX and PP29

[shut mirage]

never ran the k30, so i cant comment

[arctic grove]

Except pp29 at launch

[arctic grove]

It used to be really damn good. Now I don’t see it much

[shut mirage]

nerfed to the ground over the year?

[arctic grove]

Yea and eventually killed with the headshot multiplier nerf

[shut mirage]

and is there a difference in the snipers? they all feel the same to me except the first sniper feels like more drop to me

[arctic grove]

DXR has the best range

SWS is good for most ranges cause it’s attachments and the railgun is just

railgun

[hybrid totem]

Me want railgun sidearm

[shut mirage]

not really a fan of railgun, feels cheese

i would be fine if it was like bf4

where it was a pickup

[hexed mango]

its a weird primary

[arctic grove]

I would probably use it more if it looked like the bf4 rorsch

I’m big on visuals personally

[spiral folio]

ah cripes, PT has no chat

...

[hexed mango]

pt?

[hybrid totem]

When do you think we'll get bullet skins

[spiral folio]

test

[white geyser]

They should bring back the railgun from BF4 that one deals more damage than the 2042 railgun

[acoustic seal]

iirc they nerfed the damage a couple times, even though nobody was using it except maybe focus

[spiral folio]

wows is adding brit subs

i forgot i was on the bf server

[hexed mango]

dumee

[spiral folio]

cause i was almost about to do bf

[arctic grove]

I haven’t played wows in so long, just legends

[royal swan]

Dumbdumb

[hybrid totem]

Reading will help prevent such missteps

[spiral folio]

-threatens-

[shut mirage]

they should just import the bf4 and bf3 maps, i would play them

yes theres portal

[hybrid totem]

This is the single most effective suggestion for saving this game that I have ever seen

[shut mirage]

but half the servers have xp restrictions

[spiral folio]

they're coded in spanish

so it's impossible

[hexed mango]

portal was very poorly executed ngl

10/10 concept

[arctic grove]

Portal

[shut mirage]

the xp restriction is a lil dumb cause it killed the gamemode. Who cares if theres ppl boosting, theyre gonna find a way regardless cause thats who they are

ruined the fun for the rest of us

[hybrid totem]

Portal should have been developed and released as a completely separate game

[white geyser]

Bring back one of the maps from BF4, but they need to change its appearance to make it look like it’s from 2042 timeline

[acoustic seal]

the portal damage modifier needs to be capped at 200% and it needs to be hot patched immediately as a game integrity change

[hybrid totem]

Also bring back levolution

[shut mirage]

i played some of the portal gamemodes with friends and its genuinely really fun, it just sucks that none of it counts for xp

[royal swan]

Levolution would be nice

[shut mirage]

so make it super clean with shiny spotless buildings

[hexed mango]

that's what the S5 map is basically gonna be

[shut mirage]

all im finding on portal are those dumb 500000000 tickets and 50000000% one shot servers

like its not even fun anymore, its just brain dead clicking

[hexed mango]

precisely

we as a community dont deserve the power of portal for how poorly we have used it

its all just xp farms and extreme hc servers

[shut mirage]

ppl really find the 1 shot from spawn fun? i tried a server and there was a dude just sitting in his spawn with a pistol and just 1 tapping everyone from like 500+ meters away

[arctic grove]

That doesn’t mean it should just be ignored, what’s the point in progressing to T1 if some dude was just able to do it in like a few hours of shooting mindless bots

The game doesn’t have much to show for mastery so T1 is it, gotta have an incentive to play vs other players somehow when you include PvE

Although I agree the way they did it sucked because it got rid of 128 in Portal and in Solo/co-op with bots

[royal swan]

Hc servers are for those who can't play normal battlefield

[hexed mango]

you cant get t1 from bots fyi

[arctic grove]

Were you able to at launch?

I forgor

[hexed mango]

yeah

[royal swan]

Unless those bots were in a aow match

[arctic grove]

Oh ok then yeah

[hexed mango]

in aow you could never

but for about a month or two at launch, you could do in portal with bots

[royal swan]

During the early days of season 1 and 2 yeah

[arctic grove]

It really wasn’t supposed to be possible but at the same time I wish they would’ve did it another way

[hexed mango]

for what part?

[royal swan]

When matches had like tons of bots

[hexed mango]

matches still auto fill empty spots with bots in official servers

[royal swan]

Because the way matches were handled

[shut mirage]

should just auto ban ppl if they had more than 150 kills after like 20 mins

[spiral folio]

i shoulda played bf... nobody's on the test server for wows so it's all frigin bots

[shut mirage]

clearly ur farming if you get that many kills in that time

[royal swan]

People quit after the match so when the map switched players, most of it were bots

[hexed mango]

wouldnt rule that out so fast

[shut mirage]

ruined portal, now all the gamemodes are dead except FARMS and SUPER DUPER DUPER HC

[hexed mango]

do you mean for the rush persistent server

[royal swan]

For the aow servers

[hexed mango]

yeah rush was in aow.

[royal swan]

When the map switches the players

[hexed mango]

but in S2 there was a persistent server feature for a bit until they removed it cause they couldnt be bothered to make it obvious it was persistent

[royal swan]

I'm bt this was big

[arctic grove]

Why did they make it so the team/map would switch after games and not tell anyone it was happening

[white geyser]

When they add solo/co-op it was supposed to be two separate options in the game, like co-op suppose to be online matchmaking but it’s not

[royal swan]

They did

[hexed mango]

it was never supposed to be

[royal swan]

They said they were adding it

[shut mirage]

or honestly couldve handled portal boosting like how gta V does. Reset ur account and receive a warning. 2 warnings and its a ban

[arctic grove]

Oh yeah I know I meant in game

Cause in game it was too subtle which was just strange

[hexed mango]

also solo/co-op launched with the game, and from what sam has said, they didnt initially plan for it to be online matchmaking coop

[shut mirage]

also does anyone else have the issue where it puts you in a game where theres less than 100 tickets left? like man i dont want to play in a server thats gonna end

[arctic grove]

Yes

[hexed mango]

yeah thats just matchmaking

[arctic grove]

And I hate it

[hexed mango]

into a full game

[shut mirage]

im not a game designer or developer, but like can they just put a simple if statement for IF less than like 300 tickets, close to public match making

[white geyser]

Portal isn’t enough to mimic co-op, I want a real co-op online matchmaking I got bored doing solo after grinding to unlock the guns

[hexed mango]

yeah but then if people start leaving the last minutes of the game is gonna be very few people.

if there were persistent servers it wouldnt be an issue if you joined a sub 300-ticket server

cause then the next round would start and it'd be fine

[shut mirage]

ppl are prob leaving cause theyre getting steam rolled, ppl leaving i find makes no difference. Gonna loose anyways. And the ppl that can change the tide of the game most of the time dont want to play a game where its gonna end soon

or persistent server would just fix it

[hexed mango]

yeah but just restricting people from joining from less than 300 tickets is not an ideal solution

from the perspective of a game designer, that is

[shut mirage]

doesnt have to be 300, theres prob an optimal number but its annoying to join, play for 10 mins, then matchmake again

[hexed mango]

the ideal solution is persistent servers lol

[shut mirage]

my favorite is joining when they do the MVP rewards, like what was the point of me joining?

literally did not even get to play

[hexed mango]

it would be nice if we could choose a filter that picks between the current ticket amount in the server

it would be nice to have a matchmaking server filter. so i can choose between maps, player count, tickets, etc

that would be the best solution while we dont have a persistent server system

tl;dr it shouldnt be hard-coded to 300 or 150 tickets, it should be a more versatile filter

[shut mirage]

also no squad menu is really annoying to me. I love when i get put into a game with no squad mates so im forced to use spawn beacon unless i want to play running simulator every game. If only there was a system to see what squads are available so i can join

[hexed mango]

yeah squad system really needs to be improved

there's barely any teamplay, very little squad management features, the most you can do is change squads when you're dead. cant make your own squad (besides a party), cant join other squads directly, no set squad score (only a placement at the end of the round)

[arctic grove]

AND

team switch

[true fractal]

Maby s4 squad management is Comming?

[arctic grove]

I like uncolck bsv m, using ntw 50 i have shots over 120, but they are not counted for bsvm, any one knows why?

[warm zealot]

It’s not a Marksman Rifle

Use the SVK or DM-7

[hexed mango]

I got into my target university :)

so happy rn

[pine roost]

nice

I found out the other day that I'm going to the same uni as someone at dice which is cool i guess

[sharp marten]

I’m getting pizza y’all want anything?

[sharp marten]

Nice job man

[hexed mango]

thanks

[hexed mango]

lol

[wispy crescent]

Guys, I've reported a bug which touches all my friends on ps5 (around 30 people), but I'm ignored on the forum. What can I do more? -_- https://answers.ea.com/t5/Bug-Reports/Playstation-5-players-have-robotic-voices-after-a-few-games/m-p/12233045

[hexed mango]

if its in the bug report forum, they will see it, not immediately seeing as there's a lot more, but they will get to it
might not directly respond either

also EA_Barry is a Community manager not a dev, heckling them for not investigating the issue is useless

[normal eagle]

I only have it on PS5. Only when I play after crossplay the voice becomes robotic and you can't understand what the other person is saying. This only happens when playing against other platforms and only on PS5. My friends on PC and X have no problem with it. Only restarting the game helps.

[shy perch]

OMG all my xbox friends say this keeps happening

I have found a shitty temporary fix however

[normal eagle]

Someone reported this before, but nothing has changed.

[wispy crescent]

That's why I don't understand why guys do nothing with that for couple of months

[shy perch]

Go into settings and turn voice chat on and off sometimes it doesn’t work and its annoying asfffff

[spiral folio]

MM fail, take a drink

[shy perch]

Off and on *

[normal eagle]

It's not helping. Just restarting the game.

[shy perch]

I did say it doesn’t always work

Its a shitty fix the only thing I found aside from restarting

Its a joke that its not fixed already

[wispy crescent]

I pray everyday for having a discord on ps5 (waiting for march), because that VoIP is a real hell

[shy perch]

Ong

They added discord compat but no way to use discord on ps5 like you can see someone thats online on PS5 on discord but thats it

[arctic grove]

https://www.xbox.com/play/media/KFKK7BH32F @hexed mango Battlefield Moment

[hexed mango]

Fieldbattle entmom

lol

that man did not know what was coming

[wispy crescent]

Discord will be fully supported on ps5 as of march.

[normal eagle]

As I said, this is not a new problem. This has already been reported and they still haven't done anything about it.

https://answers.ea.com/t5/Technical-Issues/PS5-In-Game-Voice-Chat-Issue/td-p/11661590

[shy perch]

Holy shit thats great

Still awhile off but still epic

[wispy crescent]

I'll add that link to my thread and add @wary marlin to that discussion there

[pine roost]

rao's trait just isn't fair sometimes

[hexed mango]

very balanced

[fiery solar]

Time to complete all 7 weekly missions since I stopped playing after week 3

[hybrid totem]

Why does every posted video look like it's sped up?

[fiery solar]

High frame rate or just crazy fast mouse sens

[arctic grove]

You mean only voip

[fiery solar]

What is T-UGS

[wispy crescent]

but do you need something other than voip? 😉

[arctic grove]

I mean I think only voip is coming not an app

[wispy crescent]

yes, probably, there is no any sense to put the whole discord on console 😉

[spiral folio]

tugs are a motion sensor beacon, they're bigger than a sensor ball but last longer

I assume TUGS stands for "that unrealistic ground sensor"

they're meant for like vehicle detection

[hybrid totem]

Tactical unattended ground sensor

[acoustic seal]

it's what you're doing instead of playing the game when you pick recon

[eager spire]

Hi.

[quaint vector]

Hi.

[normal eagle]

https://youtube.com/shorts/JaUCOXCOjk8?feature=share

I think app too

[spare quest]

virus

[eager spire]

So, a question, did they scrap that drum mag nerf for the new update?

[quaint vector]

No

[eager spire]

Why not?

[quaint vector]

Cuz I said them to not to do so.

[eager spire]

okay but the nerf is stupid.

[stoic ferry]

any rumors or anything else about what vehicle is coming is s4 ?

[eager spire]

drum mags already have like 3 downsides, and with the plus system existing anyone who lives long enough to run out of ammo with drum mags will switch to lower capacity mags anyway.

[quaint vector]

TBH Drum Mag needs to be nerfed and I'm sure it will not be huge change

[eager spire]

no they don't

[stoic ferry]

got T1 on TOR. only choppers left of attack stuff.

[eager spire]

they already have like 3 downsides.

[quaint vector]

What's that.?

[eager spire]

-Less overall ammo, as in they have less of an ammo pool
-More recoil
-Slower reload

[spiral folio]

why would a bigger mag have more reloil

by adding tooo much weight to deaden inertia?

[eager spire]

good question, but that's how the game works.

[spiral folio]

I think it's just control because of the weight not recoil

[quaint vector]

You'll get more magazines with new Class System 👀

Recoil is easy

And slower reaload... Many guns have different reload times so you can say that many weapons IMO

[eager spire]

and frankly, having higher recoil on the drum mags is a fine balancing decision.

[spare quest]

more recoil? skill issue

[spiral folio]

well round over lets see if MM does its job for once

less control with bigger mags makes more sense

recoil is moronic

because adding mass to a weapon reduces overall recoil

like adding barrel attachments reduces control by adding more weight to the end

[eager spire]

i mean they could just keep the fact that drum mags have less overall ammo in the game as a balancing decision. Honestly, drum mags do not need any changes.

Like i said, the plus system exists. Anyone who runs out of ammo with the drum mags will switch to lower capacity mags anyway.

[quaint vector]

It will not be huge difference

[eager spire]

I've seen the video of the proposed change, that is a lie.

[spiral folio]

oh also MM failed again

[quaint vector]

Fire before its fully ADS

[eager spire]

that is a stupid suggestion, and you're making it entirely because the FOV change is faster than the actual ADS animation. i'm not sure if the accuracy is tied to the FOV change happening or the actual ADS animation.

but the point is that this is dumb. ADS speed this slow does not need to be in the game.

[copper fulcrum]

"That's very pog"

[toxic stag]

this nerf is unneeded, if they want to nerf extended/drum mags, just make the current downsides slightly more pronounced.

[eager spire]

i donno what this is from. it's certainly from some youtuber that got to playtest the update

[eager spire]

I don't think drum mags need to be nerfed at all.

Their claims that nobody uses lower capacity mags are just false considering the plus system exists.

[copper fulcrum]

It's not like they got heat-maps and other telemetry to prove it

[toxic stag]

me neither. im just saying they could pick the lesser evil and be done with it instead of trying new mechanic nerfs

[quaint vector]

I use Dram Mag only on 12M Auto, AM40 and Glock

[copper fulcrum]

Dram Mag

[eager spire]

dram mag

[quaint vector]

DrAm MaG

[copper fulcrum]

I think the change is nice

[toxic stag]

data needs to be interpreted properly. just because people choose higher capacity more, doesnt mean its OP. also they should probably take a look at LMGs before this.

[quaint vector]

I have my keyboard on Phone to my CZ language, so sometimes its not doing what it should do...

[spiral folio]

oh it's m39 not m36 for the modern garand

[eager spire]

like does their data not take into account average lifespan, does it not take into account what mags that person actually has on their plus menu? or are they just seeing that a lot of people run drum mags off spawn and decided that they needed a nerf based on that?

[toxic stag]

the dev said he wanted people to have less "combat time"

[eager spire]

????????????

[toxic stag]

^ exactly

[eager spire]

he knows the kind of game he's working on right

Battlefield? Not a milsim?

Generally fast paced?

[tacit sorrel]

More running less shooting

[toxic stag]

what about the LMGs? literally 200 round ARs with slower sprint to fire, thats it

[eager spire]

also where was this concern within the first year if that's actually wanted to do

[spiral folio]

they also weigh a lot

so they ADS poorly

and it's kinda hard to control just walkin around

[toxic stag]

^ i literally mentioned it

[spiral folio]

except the avancy cause it's 556

[toxic stag]

slower sprint to fire

thats the only big downside to them

[spiral folio]

avancy is basically a drum mag AR

[eager spire]

except the Avancys has like 200 round mags i think

[spiral folio]

yes the downside to them is the upside also, ie why they bipod for suppressing fire

[tacit sorrel]

Box mag*

[spiral folio]

belt

[toxic stag]

huh??

[eager spire]

also, drum mags for AR's have more downsides than the LMG's do

[spiral folio]

the fire rate is a double edged sword because the faster you fire the more difficult they are to control

you can throw lead down range but like where's it going

[toxic stag]

its incredibly easy to control the recoil on most LMGs

[eager spire]

i feel like if that's actually a concern maybe that should be looked at rather than nerfing AR drums

[spiral folio]

and the bigger they are the harder it is to control

ie the 240 doesn't hip fire well

[toxic stag]

this is bf2042 we're talking about right?

[spiral folio]

it's in the game

[toxic stag]

LMGs and ARs are literally laserbeams rn

[spiral folio]

they're actually not

the laser being added next patch is though

[toxic stag]

when they rework the recoil system, then we can talk about recoil control being hard

[spiral folio]

if

[eager spire]

yeah recoil does need to be reworked on account of it actually working properly now

[toxic stag]

nvm man u dont get what im talking about

[tacit sorrel]

Haven’t tried them after the bug fix

[spiral folio]

if you watch where the rounds actually go youll see they're not exactly single file

simple way to do this is find a blank wall to shoot at on solo see where things fly

[acoustic seal]

horizontal is barely a factor except on the am40 for some reason

[spiral folio]

not a lot of guns horizontally recoil anyway

recoil's a function of power vs the vertical distance from the gun barrel to the wrist/stock

and the mass of the rifle

generally speaking vertical is going to be the dominant component since it's going against your wrist basically

[toxic stag]

this is a video game, that does not apply

[eager spire]

horizontal recoil is cringe anyway so good

[spiral folio]

it's how they get the recoil

it might not be 100% spot on but they can easily go find a firing range that has these things, and test em out

[hybrid totem]

It will be funny if they release a laser weapon with recoil

[spiral folio]

and if it doesn't exist, they base it off the next closest thing

I know if I worked on a fps game I'd use any excuse I could to go to the range for uhhh ... work related studies

[eager spire]

or, more accurately, they just play around with number values and then go "eh that makes sense" and then release it

[toxic stag]

recoil is just an equation, dont overthink it brother

[spiral folio]

they've commonly recorded the sounds actually with the real firearms in the past

[tacit sorrel]

Do they have any plans of adding night versions of the existing maps?

[spiral folio]

doubt

[arctic grove]

imagine night vision

and constant flashlight glare

[spiral folio]

that's why you use thermal instead of just NV

[arctic grove]

there's a camo that negates thermal

[spiral folio]

is there

[arctic grove]

ye

[spiral folio]

in the game

[arctic grove]

it's the dice LA camo

[spiral folio]

cause like there's no thermal yet so

[arctic grove]

[spiral folio]

how would you negate something that doesn't exist

[tacit sorrel]

Seems like a lost opportunity if they don’t since they’re adding thermal scopes

[arctic grove]

that's my point

do you even play older games

[tacit sorrel]

Atleast 1-2 anyway

[spiral folio]

I didn't play any BF between bf2 and bf1

cause it was just... nonstop modern reitteration

[arctic grove]

you played 4?

[spiral folio]

nah skipped it entirely

[arctic grove]

why's that

[spiral folio]

played 3 enough to be disappointed and then not play it

[arctic grove]

wth

[sharp marten]

Tugs means tactical unmanned ground sensor for whoever asked

[arctic grove]

what about BC

[spiral folio]

cause modern combat is modern combat

was bc between bf2 and bf1

if so
goto 10

[arctic grove]

then did you at least try 1

[eager spire]

honestly i hate night maps in BF4, mostly because there's only one of them and there's no NVG's, just thermals

[spiral folio]

night maps are categorically ass

people ask for em cause they're shotgun and smg users

[arctic grove]

remember when bf2 had night maps

[sharp marten]

I’d be down if we got the nvgs with a night map

[arctic grove]

just a reminder

[spiral folio]

the like 2 night maps on bf1 were also ass

[eager spire]

yeah i donno i don't get the appeal of night maps

[arctic grove]

AESTHETIC

[acoustic seal]

prise is top tier wtf are you on about

[spiral folio]

just spray and pray is all

[arctic grove]

this isn't an esport game

[eager spire]

eh, BF1 you could just turn up the brightness at least.

[arctic grove]

stop nerfing night maps

[spiral folio]

sprayers like night maps because they can creep around and hipfire everywhere

[tacit sorrel]

Bf night maps aren’t that dark anyway