battlefield-2042

[white geyser]

S028 I reach thanks to the XP they announced

[spiral folio]

On mobile

It was basically the whole screen

[eager spire]

ah well if you're on mobile i'm sorry

[arctic grove]

gratz

[eager spire]

but i don't know what you want people to do about that

[chilly dove]

wait excuse me?

[spiral folio]

Parse
Be concise?

[arctic grove]

im too poor to own a smart phone

[chilly dove]

le gasp!

[eager spire]

What.

[idle lion]

hey maybe we need a way to switch targets on lockon missiles

[chilly dove]

what did you mean by "it was all very stupid"

[idle lion]

like pressing v resets which target its locking on to or sth

[zenith void]

is there a spot for suggestions

[eager spire]

I mean every single word you put into that paragraph that you sent to me about vehicles was stupid.

You don't know what you're talking about, you're stupid, you should stop talking.

[chilly dove]

ah, making it personal. "i disagree so you're dumb" cool thanks

[eager spire]

i mean it's not personal it's just the fact of the matter

[chilly dove]

ohhh.. the fact that I don't have a problem dealing with infantry in any vehicle makes me dumb, even though 2042 has lis rocket and stuff like that. k gotcha

[eager spire]

Like I said, the strength of the vehicles in BF3 and BF4 was a deliberate design choice to facilitate teamplay, which people generally want from a BF game.

Removing that makes teamplay matter less. You can either have teamplay, or you can have weak vehicles, you can't have both.

[arctic grove]

i wish gifs worked in this chat, i have a gif for every situation lol

[edgy oriole]

https://tenor.com/view/dr-disrespect-get-out-of-here-go-away-see-ya-bye-gif-20241586

[arctic grove]

it works for you cuz your a booster

😛

[chilly dove]

lmao.... this statement is so loaded. no teamplay? putting a skilled pilot/driver in a vehicle? having a vehicle be more cautious in general yet still as effective as possible? the secondary concept of having a vehicle be an annoying distraction to keep the Lis players too focused on vehicle so that the rest of your team can do objective based things and other meta plays like that?

[edgy oriole]

im regular too

[arctic grove]

nice

[eager spire]

these things are not exclusive to 2042.

[chilly dove]

these absolutes that people make are so awkward. this can go directly into the bin with "tEaMwOrK OnLy eXiStS wItH cLaSes"

[arctic grove]

https://tenor.com/view/dr-d-yayaya-aw-yeah-dr-disrespect-2time-back-to-back-champion-gif-15872944

[edgy oriole]

i did a pun with this earlier.

[arctic grove]

Does it include a bacon burger

@chilly dove dude just leave you only come here to complain and when someone calls you out on it like i did a bit ago you troll please just stop!

[chilly dove]

you're still focused on me, and making stuff up now too. it's weird.

[solid imp]

It's FNB why so angry everyone?

[arctic grove]

im not lol

[chilly dove]

my point was that weakening vehicles a bit would improve balancing.

[solid imp]

I'm sure we can all move on from whatever has us gamers riled up tonight 🙂

[arctic grove]

when does the update go live?

[solid imp]

*soon

[cunning plume]

[hearty flame]

probably wanna wait for the next update to roll out for a while before asking for more balance changes

[chilly dove]

and infact as is right now, I think the balancing is better in 2042 than it has ever been in the franchise, now that people are such freedom with specialists

[hybrid totem]

weaken vehicles all you want, just add moar

[eager spire]

Vehicles being as weak as they are in this game has a negative effect on balancing. The limiting of launchers to Engineer and also adding APS to tanks are improvements.

[white geyser]

https://tenor.com/view/dance-doctor-disrespect-disrespect-chillware-okaycool-gif-25566357

[arctic grove]

anyone know what time to expect the update>

[arctic grove]

[zenith void]

man i suck at this game but it is really fun

[spiral folio]

Try other weapons

[arctic grove]

bruh be patient you have already asked this last week

[chilly dove]

ok, agree to disagree. but calling me stupid over a such a disagreement i don't think is something fair. I'm not calling you dumb for not being able to farm easily with vehicles or anything like that

[spiral folio]

Sometime even if you use the best* gun you might do better with something else

[eager spire]

Eh I generally think your viewpoint is not smart.

[arctic grove]

same man, my i expect to always die 15sec after spawning

[spiral folio]

Gerp

[solid imp]

Move on guys

[eager spire]

But sure, we're not gonna get anywhere here, you're not gonna listen to reason and i'm not gonna just accept whatever nonsense you have.

[spiral folio]

Yea ad hominem is unappealing

[cunning plume]

It’s just a video game at the end of the day

[arctic grove]

he cant hes been doing this for days lol

[spiral folio]

Add block

Solved

[arctic grove]

exactly

Drama in the channel at its finest

[solid imp]

Squad got microtransactions lulz

[arctic grove]

yeah and its supposed to drop today but it aint up so im asking what time

[solid imp]

promised they wouldn't

now they're getting them

[arctic grove]

you where lied too

[trail blaze]

People who have disagreements on the game should settle them in-game.

[solid imp]

The one that was supposed to drop today was 0.3.2 not 3.2 🙂

[spiral folio]

Squad the game
Squad the gaming company
Or squad the political group

[solid imp]

Confused yet?

Jan 20 lol... '22

[arctic grove]

so instead of giving me an answer you obviously have youre choosing to what? heckle me?

[arctic grove]

no?

you been givien the anwser mutable times

i think youre trippin dude

[arctic grove]

i think you are LOL

#battlefield-2042 message

[trail blaze]

I think the game

[spiral folio]

We may never know

[wise zodiac]

@arctic grove @arctic grove knock it off

[trail blaze]

[arctic grove]

I havent done anything?

use your amaze bawls backlog skills and show me when someone told me "a week ago"

[wise zodiac]

That's not a suggestion

[arctic grove]

lol anywayy

discarded best map all time

thats opinion based

so you'll have a lot of answers

[arctic grove]

Point to Discarded on the continent for 500 boins

boins?

Boins

oh derp

xD

Boins make the world go around

thought that was bitcoin 😛

Replaced, they were inferior

well damn

does the BC2 side of the FNBs have the XM8 AR?

[arctic grove]

m8wut

actually nevermind that ended earlier

ya dont feed him

[zenith void]

love the menu music

whatever wind instrument they used is insane

[arctic grove]

i really need to turn on music lol

[chilly dove]

I don't struggle with vehicles. my friends don't. I farm with them easily. My friends farm with them easily. I see people farm with them easily, that's all. I'm not trolling, it's just a difference of opinion.

[arctic grove]

i usually keep music off to hear footsteps better

[arctic grove]

The missile knows where it is because it knows where I forgot the rest of the copypasta

[zenith void]

how to fix black screen after a game :v

[chilly dove]

I purposely challenge myself by not spamming vehicles, that's all

[wild marlin]

do you get ignored for the entirety of the match?

[arctic grove]

its a bug atm sadly

[zenith void]

do i just have to restart then?

[arctic grove]

im guessing but not sure

[zenith void]

1 bug isnt bad

only bug i have experienced

[arctic grove]

i dont have that bug i have the startup bug

[tough folio]

tbh, the f35 is really cool irl, and i see why its the fighter jet used in universe for 2042, but as it goes gameplay wise, the f35 sucks as it cannot reap the benefits it has in real life

i think we should get a new us fighter for 2042

[zenith void]

game is on sale right now?

[arctic grove]

yep

[zenith void]

im buying this for my friend

right now

[arctic grove]

nice

[chilly dove]

i mean it's all match dependent. sometimes everyone's trying to get you, sometimes the polar opposite (which gives us an easy win). But even when everyone is trying to get me, in most vehicles I can escape alive in said vehicle, even moreso, the air verhicles.

[tough folio]

teach me your ways with the f35

im not even sure it counteracts radar missiles in game as they say it does irl

[arctic grove]

@zenith void 67% off atm and its double XP till monday

[zenith void]

very awesome

the only experience i really have with battlefield is playing battlefield 4 on my brothers xbox 360 like 6 years ago

this is really fun

[spiral folio]

I had like one good run with the f35 and was done with that

[granite island]

Bf4 vs bc2 is cool

2 games fighting eachother

[wild marlin]

which vehicle u farm w

[chilly dove]

F-35, escaping from Su-57 is flare usage, speed management and using low altitude to force a circle. do it on your side of the map and you might even get some help via AA concepts. you can also change flight modes and pull a funny looking cobra like manoeuvre on them.

[arctic grove]

i cant fly to safe my life i stick to the ERAM or on foot

[zenith void]

anyone know what that wind(?) instrument is in the main menu theme

it is very cool

[analog stirrup]

when's the update

[tough folio]

i do almost all these and still struggle

[spiral folio]

I was being chased so i pressed Z and pulled up sharply

[zenith void]

if i use a vehicle and am not good at it will i get yelled at by other players :v

[spiral folio]

Then missiled the guy

[arctic grove]

ya sadly the community is a 50/50 on being "nice"

[chilly dove]

nightbird, stealth chopper, any air transport but especially the hind, attack chopper. on the ground, the tanks with cannons, LATV recon with almost any gun lol, hovercraft with tow missile (delicious), and I don't really play AA much at all but it's easy too

[arctic grove]

i get T-bagged every game now

[zenith void]

someone told me i played good after i got like 2 kills and 16 deaths so i guess they were one of the nice ones

xd

[wild marlin]

what's ur ign

[chilly dove]

how do you usually get taken out in the jet? radar missiles?

[lunar finch]

yeahh vehicle mains take it way too seriously. like stop bitching a new player wants to try a vehicle and play infantry for a bit

i swear vehicle mains always have atrocious personalitys

[tough folio]

and one other thing, radar missiles. cant even avoid them unless your playing dangerous around a building which allows them to force unwanted movement, and they are able to gun me down, if not the ground units

[zenith void]

i played around with the m1a5 in solo mode

it was pretty fun

i like how the m1a2 abrams didnt just upgrade once, but 3 times lmao

[arctic grove]

i like the ERAM vic its very fun doing hit and runs and it looks so cool

[zenith void]

gonna go to bed now

[arctic grove]

o/

[zenith void]

but gonna play 2042 for a while tomorrow

👋

[arctic grove]

have fun

[zenith void]

i have the power to not rage at video games (unless i die due to rural wifi)

[wild marlin]

why isn't naval gameplay a thing 😦

[arctic grove]

it was cool in BF4

[zenith void]

wait one more question before i bed

does 2042 work on the steam deck?

[arctic grove]

sup

uh

[zenith void]

i saw gameplay of it but steam says its unsupported

[arctic grove]

i dont think so check steam store page

it would say

[zenith void]

says the anticheat is incompatible with the steam deck

[arctic grove]

then its a no

[zenith void]

F

i can just play it at home then

gn

[arctic grove]

👋

[remote kiln]

it does not, EAC is not enabled for the steam deck

[chilly dove]

Switching modes in the F-35 is kind of an art. But if you go hover, it's like a billboard saying "please shoot me now". So you gotta switch to hover in a more defensive situation, away from danger. Using it to cap flags is imo, way too risky for example.

[tough folio]

im passive about it until you start driving like an idiot

[lunar finch]

eh, they are new why does it matter

if i get a dumb condor pilot that blows us up i just laugh it off. its not that deep

[copper spindle]

I mean I agree, but if pilots just use the condor to just get to their favorite place and just bail from low altitude and crashes about 5 people in there...

I get pissed about that

[tough folio]

flipping the air vehicle or standing still while getting shot is blatantly stupid, even for new players. it can be funny most times, but annoying other times. depends on the circumstances

[copper spindle]

New players should learn how to fly in solos

[tough folio]

i heard mouse flying is weird, so i do cut more slack then usual.

[wild marlin]

^

[granite island]

Motars strike is nice

[copper spindle]

See? Even Roblox Chad agrees

[granite island]

I wish it was aow

Or breakthrough

[tough folio]

i wish attack helis were more viable other than seat swapping

[chilly dove]

on kaleidoscope for example, you can take the F-35 between buildings and fly really close to the ground. A really good Su-57 might be able to keep up with you, but if you take a sharp turn and switch to hover, they might get guns off partially (assuming you're doing good flare management to deal with missiles) but they can't just pull the sharpest possible circle to get back on you because there are buildings in the way. then you can make your escape.

[lunar finch]

ok the only time i intentionally crash a condor is to fuck with the team at the start

i participate in a miniscule of BF trolling

[chilly dove]

and any map with good terrain like that makes escaping enemy jet easier. they're the only real threat in areas that jets would think are safe far away from the battle on the ground

[lunar finch]

if its any better i only do it on BT

[copper spindle]

I guess one time is an exception, but if it's repetitive then it will be annoying

[arctic grove]

ive seen some damn good pilots in my short time playing latley its nuts how good they are with the littlebirds

[lunar finch]

yeah i couldnt fly a little bird if i trued

tried

im an ok super hind pilot but anyone can fly that thing

[chilly dove]

Is there a reason you don't take a gunner with you?

[arctic grove]

i try flying in SOLO but i cant get the nack for it

[lunar finch]

gotta do it once yk

[arctic grove]

legit mouse and keyboard is not for flying in 2042 lol

[copper spindle]

BF4 little bird is like "master it for 24 hours until you go 35/0" mentality

[hybrid totem]

have you tried changing the entire control scheme

[arctic grove]

yes i always f up the mouse and A/D keys i even reversed them and nope i got even more confused lol

[hybrid totem]

E pitch down
D pitch up
S & F roll
W & R Yaw
Mouse right to left - yaw
Mouse up and down - pitch

Or whatever WASD if you use that style

[arctic grove]

ya who ever made the default keybinds for air vics needs to be fired 😛

[hybrid totem]

W pitch down
S pitch up
A & D roll
Q & E Yaw
Mouse right to left - yaw
Mouse up and down - pitch

Except then you're spotting all the time

can't rebind Q if I remember right

[arctic grove]

ill keep tinkering with it i want to fly the apache so bad

[hybrid totem]

my jet and heli controls are the same

That way you use mouse to aim and keyboard to move. Much like... infantry

[tough folio]

nobody wants to play, they suck alot of the time, i dont have a consistent squadmate

[tough folio]

same with 2042

[chilly dove]

feel ya

[arctic grove]

ya but the issue with me is the strafing controls throw me off like A/D to turn left or right but if i nudge the mouse any time i ether crash or get shot down, mind you this is all SOLO so i dont piss anyone off in pvp

[hybrid totem]

first off we talking heli or jet?

[arctic grove]

heli

[copper spindle]

I'm guilty for going 35/0 little bird in BF4 on Silk road, that shit was awesome

Then I quitted being a pilot lmao

[hybrid totem]

I mostly turn with the mouse. I do have it bound to W and R in case I need to turn more than I have mousepad

then micro movements let me aim

[chilly dove]

in terms of chopper and other multi seat air, once you get it going with consistent players, you dominate the game almost round after round. for me i saw how unfair it was and moved on

[tough folio]

i assume this is mainly because the su57 is huge

[lunar finch]

lol

[hybrid totem]

Oh yeah it's important than A and Z are bound to throttle up and down

[arctic grove]

@_@

[calm bison]

BF4 Little bird is basically don’t equip the HMGs if you have any dignity left

[arctic grove]

xD

[calm bison]

Mini guns are based

[chilly dove]

it's bigger but i don't think size is an issue. It can do great manoeuvres too but it still flies fully lift-aerodynamically. Hover has an advantage (not the biggest advantage but a good one) in dense terrain/between high rises

like you can get a su-57 to fly directly into quite a few buildings or obstacles of similar size on lots of maps

[hybrid totem]

sometimes just landing between two hills is enough to make them crash while they search for you

[chilly dove]

yep lol

[hybrid totem]

camouflage is key, skins are terrible

[tough folio]

imo the apache main seat is poop compared to the other vehicles

[arctic grove]

eh

[hybrid totem]

yeah attack chopper really got shafted, especially with the stealth chopperi n play

[clever marlin]

Does this game normally supposed to have 100% cpu and gpu usage?

[arctic grove]

depends on your rig

[chilly dove]

why does stealth chopper have more stealth than stealth jets? I don't get it

[tough folio]

literally the only loadout for minibird is chain and agms.

kinda sucks there is barely any air vehicle variety

[arctic grove]

If stealth is gonna be added to the jets it should work reminiscent of BF4s stealth coating as opposed to complete lock-on disabling

[ancient peak]

They need to either up the fire rate, raise the damage, or lower the overheat

[white geyser]

Maybe they should bring back one map from BF4 and add to 2042, however they need to change its appearance to make it look like it is from 2042 timeline like it got really change for years

[chilly dove]

i think all aircraft should be soflammable at all times except during chaff and flare usage. stealth maybe just require a much longer time to get that laser painting off on it

and they should be able to "shed" the laser painting faster

and that should go for stealth jets and choppers

[hybrid totem]

and tanks

[chilly dove]

but this "in stealth" thing. thats weird

[tough folio]

thats what im saying, like the f35 is known for being undetectable and invisible on radar irl, yet it doesnt matter because you have full 360 degree visual range, and it doesnt avoid radar missiles in game or avoids being spotted. i swear gaijin had to have a role in this plot

[arctic grove]

I mean

idk if you’re being sarcastic or not tbh

We’re still playing an arcade fps here

[chilly dove]

ok Salim lol

[tough folio]

well yes, but it honestly just makes jet dog fights unfair for the f35, with its only advantage being skilled movement play. if their gonna include the turn difference, might aswell include the rest of the benefits of it as well.

[arctic grove]

Oh, I hear ya

[arctic grove]

Bet you never flew any aircraft

[pearl ridge]

Stealth only reduces the detectable range

Stingers lock on at about, what, 350-400 metres in game?

[chilly dove]

I think you're taking the propaganda about how stealth works a bit too far Skull. at the ranges in this game, it would still be detectable

[pearl ridge]

The problem is that stealth choppers are fucking magic.

Like they cover up their radiators and can apparently just hold that heat internally forever

They should have some kind of penalty.

[tough folio]

very true, but its dissapointing how they're gonna add radar missile, but not even include below radar at the same time lol

[pearl ridge]

Whether it be a cooldown period or, I don't know, reduced performance.

[arctic grove]

Uuhhh, let me think.... no.

Yall speaking about nerfing, bet none of you get more than 10 kills with stealth

Bcs its nerfed to the ground

[pearl ridge]

I don't like not being able to shoot at a helicopter when the stupid thing is flying right out in the open.

[tough folio]

in the stealth heli? ive dropped 20-30.

[pearl ridge]

Not even the soflam can lock it.

[arctic grove]

Ooohhh wow 30 kills, thats nothing man

[pearl ridge]

The soflam. The laser designator.

[arctic grove]

Bit who am i talking to😂

[tough folio]

you can counter it by damaging a vehicle part on it, or hacking with rao. both kicks it out of stealth mode

[hybrid totem]

pilots like that are one of the reasons I practice with the TOR

[chilly dove]

I'm just giving some gameplay oriented suggestions. I don't know what you're getting at. If you have a bias to keep my suggestion out of the game np. I take it you like stealth chopper the way it is lol. in terms of stealth at close range, it just doesn't make much sense for it's shape to be stealthier, even if it is smaller. it's a game set in 2042 fictional lore at the end of the day

[pearl ridge]

"Ooh damage a vehicle part" with what?

[chilly dove]

oh I see now, you're mad about it getting nerfed. there there lol

[pearl ridge]

If I could nail it with an unguided rocket it'd be dead anyway

But I can't, because I don't have a fucking ballistic computer in my brain

[arctic grove]

Its stupid easy to kill helis

[tough folio]

aa turret, or just something that can damage helicopter body thats not a rocket, such as miniguns or other munition

[chilly dove]

lol it's so broken

[pearl ridge]

Miniguns are an annoyance.

Now if we had dedicated AA turrets, then we could get somewhere

[white geyser]

It is the American weapon we invented it

[hexed mango]

bro is wildin

[pearl ridge]

We need good proper flak guns, or at least some damn 20mm.

[hexed mango]

40mm flak on wc works quite well :)

[pearl ridge]

Aircraft were plenty strong in 1 and V even with plenty of gun turrets scattered about

[hexed mango]

or.. just use the TOR as a big ass AA gun

[tough folio]

no worrys, launchers are getting locked to boris and crawford supposedly. the side effect is that transports will be natively stronger by not being attack as much, and still having the health it has. the other effect is that the laucnhers are locked to pretty unappealing characters

[arctic grove]

I think its just hillarious to see the crops talking about "balancing" aircraft. Get farmed dummies

[chilly dove]

give me a stealth chopper as it is right now, i'll harvest that enemy team lol

[hexed mango]

i was talking about the reactions lmao

[pearl ridge]

Three engineers and only two of them can use stingers

[hexed mango]

it was funny

[arctic grove]

1v1 df?

[pearl ridge]

Aww is the farmer mad that people don't like being farmed?

[arctic grove]

Not at all

[pearl ridge]

Anything that interrupts your fucking killstreak needs to be nerfed huh

[arctic grove]

Yes

If its cheesy and cheap

[pearl ridge]

Far as I'm concerned, the ability to farm is indicative of balance problems.

[chilly dove]

yep

[pearl ridge]

Farming is, by definition, easy. A modicum of skill and suddenly you're nigh-untouchable.

[hexed mango]

stealth heli shouldnt have stealth, flares and repair all at the same time
in stealth mode, i think repair should be limited to encourage someone actually getting safe rather than just sitting in stealth out in the open

granted i think the stealth heli nerfs have been reasonable, at least putting it in a better place than it was in s1

[pearl ridge]

What wouldn't I give for a damn Fliegerfaust

[tough folio]

tbh, aircraft are weak in this game as is, aside from the controversial air transports. if your getting farmed, its probably due to poor teamcomp and teamskill along with iq, so for more or less, its a skill issue

[hexed mango]

What i wouldnt give for m18

[pearl ridge]

Nightbirds are genuinely stronger than the fucking little birds in 4

They're a goddamn nightmare

[hexed mango]

i mean stealth helis in s1 were anything but weak

nightbirds with flares :)

[pearl ridge]

Shitty flight physics and even more heavily armed

[arctic grove]

Now theyre weak tho

[hexed mango]

not really

[chilly dove]

as i said, once i picked up how easy the aircraft were in this game and farmed a bit, i moved on. I couldn't sit tight knowing that other people were respawning over and over to me despite everything they did and not even taking a second to realise that infinite ammo in vehicles was the culprit lol

[hexed mango]

weak determines on what you measure

[tough folio]

thats s1 tho, i didnt play, and everyone says it was hell on earth

[arctic grove]

And dum dums still crying about "op aircraft"

[hexed mango]

one shot by lis? sure.
but they still deal the damage they are expected to, with the required piloting skills.
and, further, the ability to stealth is still a massive crutch, so you shouldnt expect the beefiest guns with a vehicle like that

[chilly dove]

like nightbird vs enemy team lol

[hybrid totem]

your general attitude and demeanor has pushed me to agree that stealth helis should be nerfed

[hexed mango]

you should expect stronger guns on apache.. yet the apache and hokum are seemingly worse out of all the helis

[pearl ridge]

Also Lis's missiles are impossible to manoeuvre properly if you don't completely fuck up your sensitivities.

[arctic grove]

Only thing they need to remove from the game is rao, lis, railgun tank. Then im fine with it being weak

[pearl ridge]

Stealth choppers shouldn't just be nerfed, they shouldn't exist.

[hexed mango]

ive always advocated for a NB, Apache/Hokum buff as well as a tune for the transports to bring them to more of an expected level.
stealth heli is fine.

also if you complain about rao, that is purely on you.

[chilly dove]

someone really likes stealth heli lmao.

[pearl ridge]

They're one of those things that just break balance by being a thing.

[hexed mango]

rao is purely the only existing counter outside of dumbfire Wild Cat ammo + Lis (but difficult).

[arctic grove]

I dont complain about him, its just stupid. I dont die to hacks or anything, if youre a good pilot youll just get used to it

[wild marlin]

they made of paper tho

[pearl ridge]

And this is a game where an entire team of 64 can only have two light armour, and they're both probably goddamn Rams.

[hexed mango]

Why is rao stupid then

[arctic grove]

sigh

But it is just a bad idea to have someone with raos abilty in the came

[chilly dove]

i mean give me a TOW missile launcher and i'll lay a stealth heli to rest

[hybrid totem]

"I don't complain about him."
Complains about him

[pearl ridge]

And even if they are Wildcats they're always using 40mm anyway

[hexed mango]

But it isnt a bad idea to have a vehicle that can go literally untrackable?

sounds very very one-sided

[arctic grove]

Dont think so

i honestly dont know why im in this discord anymore

[wild marlin]

maybe don't play w feeders

[hexed mango]

care to explain why rao is bad but stealth heli isnt

[pearl ridge]

Oh yeah like I have a choice

It's called forced matchmaking

[chilly dove]

tbh, I feel like running a seminar on how to aim really good with TOW Missile, so that stealth helis die more lol just cuz of this guy

[hexed mango]

good times ey?

[wild marlin]

its called get a squad 🤣

[tough folio]

i enjoy the stealth heli, but it aint all that to be honest. just depends on your team if they will focus it or they choosed to be killed by it. i dont suspect dice thinks its fair in all cases for infantry to win 1v1s against vehicles. plus stealth heli is easy to counter with another ground vehicle, heli, or a competant team

[arctic grove]

A character that makes your heli a sitting duck from 200m away is a bad idea no matter what. No skill involved

[wild marlin]

stealth chopper don't survive long once someone is dedicated to killing it

[pearl ridge]

I swear to god the 'advice' half this community gives is on the same tier as "Just stop being depressed bro"

[arctic grove]

If you at least had like an emp launcher or smt which you had to aim with

But no

[chilly dove]

what is rao hack cooldown anyway? it's not that good right?

[arctic grove]

No skill involved

Thats my problem

Same as stinger

[wild marlin]

no cooldown

just a firewall

[hexed mango]

so why not hide while hacked?
or, if you play correctly, you can flare as it says "hack incoming" and then you're more safe

[hexed mango]

that is the cooldown bozo

[arctic grove]

If you play any kind of locks in this game youre just bad

[arctic grove]

Yeah no shit

Doesnt change the fact

[chilly dove]

well I guess when the enemy team has alot of rao, you are now a stealth heli transport lol

[arctic grove]

Its just cheap and stupid

[tough folio]

im just stating my experiences, most of my matches involve people who dedicate to the cause and play effectively, i also wont say that braindead matches dont exists

[hexed mango]

he also has a subsequent hack cooldown, where once you hack something there's a short duration where you cant immediately hack something else, where his scanner is in the "hack complete" state, which only lasts for something like 5s
but the "firewall" lasts for much longer

[wild marlin]

irony, considering Rao can hack vehicle after vehicle

[arctic grove]

Like most Aa counters in this game

[pearl ridge]

(Plays in OP, highly agile aircraft)
"Why does everyone use lock ons"

[hexed mango]

care to explain why stealth heli isnt?

[hexed mango]

ok so remove all counters for AA?
sounds like a real open-minded argument

[wild marlin]

his hack has no cooldown

[arctic grove]

No, make them require some skill. Like aim or smt

Timing

Whatever idc

[pearl ridge]

It does actually, it's about four seconds long and you can't hack the same thing twice in about a minute

[chilly dove]

they really made no CD with rao huh... i gotta check this

[arctic grove]

But rn its just BS

[hexed mango]

there is a subsequent cooldown, as already mentioned, for about 2.5s there is a moment where it is indeed "recharging"

[pearl ridge]

Rao is going to be fucking useless when the class thing comes out

[hexed mango]

doubt it

[tough folio]

you gotta be an idiot to be bombed from that range

[hexed mango]

care to answer my other question?

[arctic grove]

Fax

[pearl ridge]

Rao's hacking is also interrupted and has to start from scratch every time a fucking leaf gets in the crosshairs

[chilly dove]

from all raos or just the same one?

[arctic grove]

Why stealth heli requires skill? Its literally the weakest heli in df

But how would someone like you know that

[hexed mango]

salim, to be frank with you, you seem to not be able to comprehend the idea of apparent balance, and the functionality of Anti-Aircraft weaponry.

[chilly dove]

ah,that's not so bad then

[hexed mango]

uh. no it is not.

[arctic grove]

Yep it is

[pearl ridge]

Pilot mains are always like that, they don't understand what goes into actual AA work. They just see incoming fire and think "that's too easy"

[arctic grove]

Yep

[hexed mango]

assuming df is defense, idk what else it would be, stealth heli while not having strong armor, is superior in almost every way to the nightbird or apache.
just the presence of stealth systems alone. literally not being able to be locked onto makes it superior.
not to mention the fact that it also has repairs/flares ontop of that.

[arctic grove]

Df = dogfight

[hexed mango]

ah

[fiery solar]

why does battlefield 4 have a 1 megabyte update

[hexed mango]

in that case.
why the fuck are you dog fighting :)

[tough folio]

as far as i know, air play and aa play are balanced except for the transports and the vehicles who camp in spawn. but with 3.2 inbound, the balance will be rocked. we will have to see what to change from there.

[next onyx]

The stealth heli is inherently unbalanced.

[chilly dove]

Way gets it

[hexed mango]

tell that to this guy way

[arctic grove]

True, it needs to be buffed

[chilly dove]

pfft

[next onyx]

It needs to reworked from the ground up.

[arctic grove]

Yeah

Stronger

[pearl ridge]

It's one of those concepts that can't really be balanced.

[hexed mango]

i think you lack the skill to properly use it
how about... you buff your skill :)

[pearl ridge]

And was better off staying on the drawing board

[fiery solar]

i cant aim well in vehicles on controller for some reason. slightly moving the right stick moves it 30 feet whatever side i turned it too.

[arctic grove]

Lmao who do you think you are

[hexed mango]

zainrunner

[arctic grove]

Df?

I have a server

[pearl ridge]

Check your sensitivity.

[next onyx]

Thermal armour / stealth is in the game.

This reduces lock on range and increase the time it takes longer to lock on to it.

[arctic grove]

Come 1v1 df

[hexed mango]

I have a thing called not asking :)

[tough folio]

also everymatch wont be a perfect match, sometimes running heli isnt viable with the team your facing. or your team doesnt have a viable iq to deal with air

[hexed mango]

my T1 F-35 will work for this

[chilly dove]

i think it can be, but being so stealth that it can't be soflam'd "in stealth" but the jets can... lol

[arctic grove]

@hexed mango come 1v1 df

[hexed mango]

im good thanks

[next onyx]

The heli can utilise thermal camo and you can balance it like that.

[pearl ridge]

Your fucking what

[arctic grove]

Yeah go hide

Bot

[fiery solar]

oh its not even my sens ive fixed everything. i aim perfectly on foot but only vehicles is it really hard. but ill try all the settings later

[hexed mango]

no need to prove anything to anyone that doesnt understand basic balance

[next onyx]

Knock it off.

[ebon pilot]

it makes a noise

[next onyx]

Refrain from the insults.

[tough folio]

when the hell are they gonna add below radar again. tired of radar missiles

[pearl ridge]

Vehicle sensitivity is a separate setting, you sure you checked that?

[hexed mango]

T1 F-35 :)

[arctic grove]

"Insults"😂

[chilly dove]

I'm also not accepting any 1v1s thanks.

[next onyx]

I always end up calling radar rockets passive radar since they passively lock on.

[arctic grove]

Nobodys talking to you

[fiery solar]

yeah i checked anything that sounded like it would work. so i tried putting the same settings as i have on foot and its worse

[hexed mango]

. @pearl ridge

[chilly dove]

ok as in, ok nobody's talking to me lol

[next onyx]

Respect for the grind I'll have to say that.

[tough folio]

settings in 2042 are inconsistent alot lol

[pearl ridge]

It's the other way around, they're called passive because they only detect radar signals, they don't produce it themselves

[next onyx]

Oh nah I understand that.

Passive radar is the lock on and dedicate.

If I remember correctly.

[hexed mango]

passive doesnt require you as the pilot to lock on

[tough folio]

let me try getting better in the f35

[next onyx]

Lemme look up the rockets again.

[hexed mango]

just shoot and the missiles do their thing

[tough folio]

thought those were fire and forget

[hexed mango]

yeah but that implies you lock

technically you "fire and forget" but no prior lock is required

[next onyx]

Heatseekers are fire and forget.

[hexed mango]

precisely

the A to A rockets are lock, and fire and forget

AGM is maintain

idk the actual term, but you have to maintain the lock

[arctic grove]

No they arent

No

Tf u talkin about

[tough folio]

what does ir stand for? infrared?

[hexed mango]

yes

[pearl ridge]

yeh

[hexed mango]

;)

ay below radar, reminds me

cant wait for 3.2

[pearl ridge]

These things were my bread and butter. Gave me at least some chance at nailing air mains

[hexed mango]

we dont

unfortunately

[arctic grove]

Too bad the stinger bots can still lock u under 30

[tough folio]

but dont most vehicles have heatseakers, so why wouldnt it lock on below radar

[hexed mango]

too bad i have flares

[next onyx]

Portal stinger that hits you almost instantly.

Would love the portal SMAW for shelling helis.

[tough folio]

agm is fire and forget in 2042, smart rockets for attack heli are maintain target

[quick egret]

They should just remove the panther and condor

It wouldn’t make a difference at all

Hind and felon are leagues better

[next onyx]

It's weird how AGM works.

Because I'm used to that being a laser guided because of bf4.

[tough folio]

can aia missiles hit ground with soflam and vice versa?

[pearl ridge]

"Below radar" should only be relevant if it actually is radar

[quick egret]

Yes

[pearl ridge]

You sure about that?

[hexed mango]

no no if its the stinger, it cant soflam

[quick egret]

But no one ever soflams

[hexed mango]

no

[tough folio]

so would agms or anti tank missiles shred helis?

[hexed mango]

FXM cannot lock to ground with soflam

[chilly dove]

i soflam all the time

but i'm just me

[quick egret]

Exactly

[hexed mango]

M5 can lock to air with SOFLAM, and im assuming Javelin will be able to as well

[quick egret]

I’ve hit a wildcat with a stinger so unless they changed it you can with a soflam

[tough folio]

weird that heatseekers wont lock on below 30 for vehicles, dont make sense sense they are not radar. unless they arent heatseakers and use something else

[chilly dove]

soflam scares enemy team though. good intimidation tactic

[tough folio]

cant you tell the difference between being painted and being locked

[pearl ridge]

Lot of pilots can't, funnily enough.

Unfortunately they're not the ones that are a problem

[chilly dove]

yep lol, love making them pop flares from soflam

[quick egret]

Yeah but that means every jerry with m5 becomes an AA and it gets spooky

[tough folio]

im pretty sure the visual indicater is slightly different too

[pearl ridge]

I see some guys popping flares the moment they even hear the lock starting

[tough folio]

just flare up and hide

[quick egret]

It takes like 2 people to take down a condor and then the hind needs the whole coordination of the entire team

[chilly dove]

M5 missile lock shows up as red, pretty sure

[tough folio]

condor is a big and slow target, thats why

[hexed mango]

hind and condor gun the same

condor is really fast horizontally

[tough folio]

well i dont think unless you didnt change color of ui elements

[hexed mango]

not after 3.2

[tough folio]

i think my lock on is blue and confirm is green

[hexed mango]

i dont think it changes either... the "lock on" is the same color

[quick egret]

Just going to make the hind even more op

[ebon pilot]

locked targets are red, painted targets are yellow

[wild marlin]

can't wait for EOD trolling

[hexed mango]

i believe they intend to balance it from its current state

atleast from what ive heard already

[wild marlin]

maybe instead of nerfing the hind, they should buff the condor 😀😀

[hexed mango]

uh

not the point

[chilly dove]

yeah i'm just not too concerned with enemy M5 and soflam. that's what i make sure gunners are hunting if i ever fly and we're trying to hind cap a flag. I save my flares for "incoming missile" or when i know a jet is trying to do us in

[tough folio]

oh nvm, i meant if your flying and the spatial indicater that shows you where your being locked from are different for soflam and missles. not the alert that pops up on screen with the words missile incoming

[quick egret]

Every part of it is fine except for the amount of armor, with two repair seats and every engineer having access to a repair tool it becomes almost invincible if played correctly

[next onyx]

They need to reduce the transport choppers health a little bit.

[tough folio]

i flare on missile incoming regardless and hide to regain, so it dont matter

[hexed mango]

i disagree heavily. the fact that it has a front cannon is stupid imo

[next onyx]

Enough to make it so that two AT rockets is enough to kill it.

[chilly dove]

yes

[hexed mango]

its as much of a transport as the nightbird is, just with a big ass gun and more armor

[tough folio]

m5 is anti tank i presume

[hexed mango]

it is

[quick egret]

Yeah the 40mm is kinda cringe but it wouldn’t be as much of an issue if it didn’t have more armor than a tank

[hexed mango]

armor is fine

the gun is not

its a transport, it should be able to withstand damage, but it should be focused on transporting not attacking

[tough folio]

then rework transports and make em play like they do i cod, where you can walk around inside, and you should be able to close and open doors lol

[hexed mango]

hence why i say there's stuff wrong with them...

[tough folio]

yeah, not enough passenger seats for a full transport able to hold 10 or more men

[quick egret]

Yeah compared to transports in other titles they have too much armor and weaponry. And not enough spots to transport people

[chilly dove]

transports should be like they are in Battlefield 3. giving them more firepower that they have now in 2042 is fine though. But no reason 2042 is the year where aircraft become THAT tanky

[fickle bone]

Anyone have a milsim recruiting?

[hexed mango]

ew

[chilly dove]

not sure what you mean exactly. I have some portal modes that are somewhat mil-sim ish though. try #lfg channels and #portal ones

[hexed mango]

#739938247089848351 probably better

[sharp marten]

Would you join my clan

[hexed mango]

no

[sharp marten]

WHY WONT YOU LVOE ME

[hexed mango]

to quote a little green guy: "There is another"

[sharp marten]

NOOOO

[chilly dove]

"* * * * *, better love story than twilight, a must-see"

[hexed mango]

lol

[tough folio]

my ui elements are set to make the kill notifications look like bf3, i think they look nice

[sharp marten]

Alexa play all girls are the same by juice box

[stiff pollen]

Juice box

[sharp marten]

Grape soda

[kindred flint]

jfc...people be bad, but running through a lobby with the xm8 is always fun

[hexed mango]

god damn it mother of fucking christ and im not even christian why did i have to be put in a lobby with this guy

[next onyx]

Who?

[wild marlin]

EOD bot better be able to arm MCOM

if not very cringe

[tough folio]

got put into a game with a minibird main, and he has tiktok in his name

[wild marlin]

cringe

what was his in game name

[kindred flint]

thats advanced cringe

[wild marlin]

please remember his in game name, I wanna search up his stats

[gloomy sky]

Wasn't 3.2 supposed to update today?

[tough folio]

tktok-whtabtjohn
hes 79-0 rn

82

[safe verge]

tank superiority sucks with that new tanks

new tank

i can't do shit with my team all getting base raped by them

[hexed mango]

the only guy i ever complain about

[tough folio]

@wild marlin

[wild marlin]

yeah I saw, he plays ground like 20% of the time

dudes a vehicle main loser

[safe verge]

vehicle mains are tight

you guys are the ones that complain non stop and nerf them to the ground

[wild marlin]

yeah tight in between their legs cuz they ain't got balls

[hexed mango]

yeah i fucking hate this game now

[wild marlin]

literally need vehicles to have fun cuz they get rekt on the ground

[hexed mango]

more specifically i hate this stupid chronically online guy

[safe verge]

yeah because we play battlefield not call of duty

if you want to piss and cry about vehicles go play cod

[wild marlin]

go play war thunder Mr vehicle main

[chilly dove]

wait what? lol who's pwnin?

[hexed mango]

hell no

[tough folio]

me

[hexed mango]

the self proclaimed "#1 Player"

[safe verge]

the whole point of battlefield is vehicle warfare and infantry

[wild marlin]

so you're only good at half the game

[chilly dove]

haha i wouldn't be surprised if people are like that, sad clout chasers.

[hexed mango]

this guy is the epidemy of a clout chaser

[wild marlin]

I wonder if this EOD bot will look different

[next onyx]

Vehicle players having an ego.
Unfortunately nothing new.

As we just witnessed a little bit ago.

[wild marlin]

^

[tough folio]

i love playing heli, but damn i got slammed. might as well have been playing against silk. he went 102 kills deathless

[wild marlin]

57mm cannon wildcat FUX

[tough folio]

his flow of flying had flawless form also

[wild marlin]

ppl who run it have my respect

[chilly dove]

obviously we love vehicle warfare, but it shouldn't be so OP. I can hop in a vehicle and farm a room too but no, i won't do it. I've done it a few times but really quickly it becomes apparent, in every BF, that their infinite ammo capability makes them OP once you learn how to mitigate all threats in a vehicle.

[hexed mango]

probably cause he spends 99% of his day playing video games

[safe verge]

dude, tanks are at their weakest in years

[hexed mango]

bro's facecam on stream is exactly what you would expect as well.. dunno why i expected different

[remote kiln]

"can farm a room" - it's op because the enemy team in this anecdotal match are shit

kek lol

[white geyser]

Some people cry about getting killed by vehicles in battlefield, go play COD you bozos you're only embarrassing yourself because you never learn how to use vehicles in battlefield games

[chilly dove]

true, which makes them fun to play imo

[safe verge]

everyone has AT

[chilly dove]

i love a good challenge

[tough folio]

i only try to get better and beat the ones who are more skilled than me, thats my mindset

[remote kiln]

this playerbase know fuck all about vehicle balance and it's pretty clear

[safe verge]

not really, impossible to push an objective with non stop rockets

[hexed mango]

meanwhile me with a 1.4kd sucking at the game as usual

and barely being able to play seeing as my arm is either hurting all the time or i can never get a good enough position for anything effective ingame

[wild marlin]

damn

:/

[sharp marten]

What did I miss? How far up is that convo lmao

[remote kiln]

do you know how many cyborgs say that jets and tanks are OP because they had a few high kdr games

it's honestly the funniest thing to read

[idle lion]

As usual

[hexed mango]

what pisses me off is that the one fun thing in my life, gaming, is ruined by the fact that my arm is always in pain, and/or my desk-chair situation is shit

[wild marlin]

I wonder if the javelin will do more damage with a laser designated target

[chilly dove]

near objective gameplay, counter-measure and cover usage. hanging back to partially or fully to play a more artillery style

[wild marlin]

soon enough, you're gonna be able to play video games with your mind

[hexed mango]

uh

ok.

[wild marlin]

not even joking

[remote kiln]

?

[tough folio]

cancer? i hurt my ankle today playing volleyball because i fell on someone when we both attempted to spike

[chilly dove]

plus i've done a few objective rushes with tanks, it's not impossible

[remote kiln]

you clearly never played a tank in your life

[idle lion]

I hope they give you the option to change between top down attack and straight attack without having to use laser designator

[hexed mango]

thankfully i dont have cancer... yet

[safe verge]

so you're tellng me to stay at base because the TOR's are all lined up to shoot regular tanks like fish in a barrel

[white geyser]

Want to cry about getting killed by vehicles in battlefield? let me rekt you harder until you have no more tears to cry about

[hexed mango]

i just have fucked up muscles particularly in my mouse arm

[wild marlin]

it's a good idea but I think for the sake of promoting team play, it shouldn't be like that

[remote kiln]

he's done a whole 5 things with a tank he's now the objective authority on how good tanks are

[wild marlin]

make recons run the soflam

[hexed mango]

sorry to hear that as well, hope you feel better :(

[wild marlin]

literally their best gadget

[idle lion]

Damn bro if you left your basement youd basically burn cause of how sensitive you are

[next onyx]

Calm it.

[tough folio]

lol its not even an injury, it just aches lmao

[royal swan]

Wtf did I just enter too

[idle lion]

Oke

[hexed mango]

though im not sure it is about my hand, cause usually i can get around using my pc for other shit like school and programming, but when gaming, particularly in 2042 and other fps games, my hand and forearm just die immediately

[tough folio]

dang, thats annoying af

[next onyx]

I once fell off my bike, fucked up the palm of my hands and it was difficult playing on my controller.

[remote kiln]

arthritis?

[sharp marten]

Tanks are def not Op

[hexed mango]

i dont believe so, its more muscle pain than joints.

[chilly dove]

someone i blocked a while back I see is flamin off at me, but ay, difference of opinion. The assumptions about how much I play to validate their own points are weak reasoning on their part imo lol

[idle lion]

I have similiar issues with my hand but instead of pain its really hard to do any sort of movement with my wrist when focusing on anything else

[tough folio]

trying to play with a swollen finger because you jammed it catching the ball wrong

[hexed mango]

idk i talked to a physical therapist early in 2022 about it when it started happening, didnt really help much.

[remote kiln]

hm interesting, hope you get it checked out

*nothing serious

[hexed mango]

we will see ¯_(ツ)_/¯

[wild marlin]

king copers think they are

[white geyser]

I never had any problems with my hands while playing any games with the controller

[hexed mango]

well i dont use a controller

[wild marlin]

I wonder if the top attack feature for the javelin will increase its damage

[idle lion]

Lets be honest, tanks and jets arent op. Only little birds are

[kindred flint]

oh no no no

[hexed mango]

[wild marlin]

little bird and ram, way too survivable imo

[sharp marten]

“Tanks are Op” me getting soflam’d and M5’d by 30 different people

[wild marlin]

the little bird more than the ram, cuz the backup speed sucks

[idle lion]

Ram is easy, mckay hook and c5

[next onyx]

Little bird too survivable has everyone forgotten about the stealth chopper.

[wild marlin]

not with a competent gunner, playing with his sound on

[idle lion]

I use jets to kill stealth choppers or rao to make them run away

[remote kiln]

the hind too apparently

[next onyx]

Tanks can easily be ganged up on anyways.

[wild marlin]

stealth chopper made of paper

[white geyser]

I forgot the name of the boat in 2042, they should put that vehicle on water if only we have naval map right now

[sharp marten]

Wait till the Javelin drops then tanks will really be Op 💀

[hexed mango]

[next onyx]

Oh yeah they'll getting the APS as well.

It's annoying that it doesn't replace the countermeasure.

[wild marlin]

watch the javelin suck btw

knowing dice they'll fuck it up

[hexed mango]

they'll be* 🤓

[idle lion]

Interesting... for me when i fuck up a c5 mckay on a ram its usually just me laying down on the thing making it insta crush me cause of a bug

[next onyx]

I forgot to write that.

[remote kiln]

way they'd be indestructible fortresses if it was in countermeasure slot

[white geyser]

I never use the Javelin back in BF4... why not add the Javelin in 2042?

[sharp marten]

I got killed in a tank on low health by 3 guys using AP rounds on the avancy

[remote kiln]

at that point they would be broken

[kindred flint]

well shit if you never used it....why should it even be a thing

[idle lion]

Theyre adding it in 3.2 i think

[hexed mango]

tbh at my pc im only good for doing hw, programming and watching youtube... cant game anymore without wanting to chop my arm off

[wild marlin]

well I personally cannot concur with such an experience, I'm simply going off my experience when gunning in the ram.

[remote kiln]

the rams fine

doesn't need nerfed or buffed

[sharp marten]

True

Ram is perfect where it is

[remote kiln]

it gets 2 shot by any heavy armour and it's spawn beacon dies to dust particles

[wild marlin]

nah fam, it needs mortar pod 😂

[remote kiln]

only real utility is anti infrantry

[next onyx]

To both draw away an infrared rocket with thermal smoke and then some more the APS a little dumb.

[white geyser]

Javelin, Mortars, what else they should bring it back that we are missing?

[wild marlin]

you can't equip them both at once wdym

[next onyx]

If it were just the APS you're swapping thermal reliability for tempo rocket utility.

The TOR can.

[remote kiln]

way if it's in the countermeasure slot, then it gets self repair

[next onyx]

It's a Gadget not a countermeasure.

I'm aware that it gets self repair.

[sharp marten]

Well there’s been speculation that the new Op will have a smart mortar

[remote kiln]

which means you can APS self repair during natural regeneration

it would never die

[next onyx]

Haha homophone.

[wild marlin]

NAH

[remote kiln]

even against mines you could protect yourself

[wild marlin]

it's supposed to be a recon

[next onyx]

Yeah they fixed that.

Versus mines and C4.

[wild marlin]

why would a recon have a mortar

[chilly dove]

I just find vehicles really easy lol. i think 2042 did something good making infantry stronger in the matchup against them (but infantry are still still weaker overall against vehicles imo). Obviously I can see how some farmers would be mad though.

plus they have interesting ways of telling you they're mad about this lol

[sharp marten]

It’s not out of the realm of possibility

[wild marlin]

it's literally exclusively them who defend vehicle buffs

[remote kiln]

vehicle buffs?

did you 2 miss that vehicles have been nuked over the last 3 years since release?

[wild marlin]

yes, cuz I don't play them

[remote kiln]

shows

[white geyser]

Since we're still in season 3 either season 4 or 5 update, not only adding BF4 in the portal but since they add the weapons that came from BF3 and BC2 however... why not add the BF4 vehicles and its attachments if they ran out of weapons to add from the previous battlefield titles

[wild marlin]

I'm not a shitter who needs them to have fun 😊

[chilly dove]

they're wild lol

[kindred flint]

they didnt run out of stuff to add...they ran out of dev power to port them into the game

[remote kiln]

if you really think a certain playstyle defines a player, you're senile lol

infantry and vehicle are fun together

[kindred flint]

hard to support a game when youre being pulled off to work on the next BF title thats totes gunna be better guise!

[wild marlin]

like I'm really psyched for the class system because it makes anti vehicle play better

[remote kiln]

"I don't like it"

[next onyx]

It helps to learn vehicles to know what you're up against.

I wish I pushed for 10K Panzer IV kills speaking about that. But I cannot be fucked.

[remote kiln]

apparently entire gamemodes that remove vehicles entirely isn't enough

[next onyx]

I actually liked Tanks in Arica Harbour BT.

I thought it made a bit of sense.

[kindred flint]

are you facing bullshit on wheels (ram/latv) or bullshit on tracks? (tonk/bolte/mav)

[next onyx]

2 m1a5's for the US at the start versus 1 T28.

Which then drops to 1 m1a5 and 1 t28.

Then support is dropped entirely at sector 3.

[wild marlin]

more like fat target 😋😋

[chilly dove]

infantry are still still weaker overall against vehicles imo, i added this to my message above

[next onyx]

God Arica Harbour Bt is good.

[wild marlin]

bruh Boris rework when

[next onyx]

Infantry should be weak to vehicles cause that's just how it should be. I do think that for vehicles the counterplay can get overwhelming.

[wild marlin]

Boris removal when?😳😳😳

[white geyser]

They couldn't add the M4A1 carbine rifle in 2042 only the M16 they add it, IDK why or maybe they couldn't afford to add the M4A1 rifle in the game?

[remote kiln]

thank god DICE are not listening to this wild claim that infantry are somehow ants being steamrolled by tanks as they fly over the map getting 200 kills every game

[wild marlin]

^

people just ignore them

rather play assault with 0 AT utility

and flame team for feeding

[remote kiln]

then post in the chat "someone kill the vehicle"

you couldn't make it up even when you can barely rotate a tank, and can't even shoot fully when aiming forward

[wild marlin]

like this class system is gonna make people run engineer how they're supposed to and that makes me happy 😊😊😊😁😁😁

because ppl are gonna go, "fuck I can't play falck with an M5? guess I'll play Crawford"

[hexed mango]

happy

[remote kiln]

give Crawford explosive ammunition for his turrets then we'll finally get rid of those pesky vehicles

[wild marlin]

no, literally change his entire gadget

being stationary is death

and having a fucking face hole on top of that 😂

[white geyser]

Oh shit I forgot to unlock the P90 they added in AOW, god damn I got too busy with the other guns I was grinding

[next onyx]

You should give the m16 a go.

[copper fulcrum]

Already T1d the P90

[hexed mango]

no

[sharp marten]

What’s that new Russian vehicle that looks cool it has dual cannons and two rocket pods I think it’s a IFV

[copper fulcrum]

Boris Glow-up when?

[hexed mango]

3.2

[copper fulcrum]

Boris is actually getting worse in 3.2 really

[remote kiln]

the p90 is odd tbh

it's interaction with the suppressor seems off

[next onyx]

I wish the p90 kept its bf3 gimmick of its really good hipfire accuracy.

Sustained hipfire accuracy.

[remote kiln]

give it no hipfire spread using a laser

[wild marlin]

objectively incorrect opinion 💀

[white geyser]

Whatever the next gun they gonna add before season 3 ends, it better convince me so I can enjoy it

[hexed mango]

vault weapons = no

[copper spindle]

New gen weapons = Interested

[wild marlin]

maybe they should add more futuristic made up guns 😳😳😳😳

[remote kiln]

I would like the mk3 to return tbh

would be excellent for map engagements

[wild marlin]

add naval gameplay

[remote kiln]

NVLS is never happening

[chilly dove]

I noticed the single fire on the P90 is alot slower then on the other weapons. kind of weird

[wild marlin]

like we have hovercraft, we have a mav

[remote kiln]

would be an expansion in itself

[wild marlin]

amphibious vehicles already exist

[remote kiln]

there's like 2 maps where water combat would work

excluding the older ones

[wild marlin]

or just port over bf4 maps 😐😐😐😐

[sharp marten]

I want

This

[remote kiln]

that's like an entire seasons work lol

[wild marlin]

what even is that

[remote kiln]

can't just go oh yeah drop it over

[hexed mango]

me

[wild marlin]

cringe

I bet it doesn't even have APFSDS

[remote kiln]

naval strike was actually talked about by DICE, but it was a long time ago

[next onyx]

Kind of reminds me of the Bren Carrier.

[wild marlin]

I bet it doesn't even have EMA 💀

[remote kiln]

hasn't been discussed since

[wild marlin]

like that tank is a SHORAD right

[sharp marten]

Tbh I’m hoping we get like a modern bf like 2025 modern so we can fight with Bradley’s and shut

[idle lion]

i want a Challenger 3

[sharp marten]

Dude that’d be sick

[idle lion]

or that next gen german tank

forgot its name

ah

[wild marlin]

panzer

[idle lion]

the KF51 Panther

[wild marlin]

something

[remote kiln]

based on what's been discussed by producers it seems heavily likely the next game will be modern based

whether that's 2022, or 2142, is another question

[wild marlin]

that's so fucking stupid

[idle lion]

maybe sci fi?

bf on the moon

[next onyx]

Would love cold war because AKM and Galil.

[wild marlin]

we are pretty much already at 2042 in terms of tech

[remote kiln]

no idea, just been following what they've been asking in regards to the campaign story

[next onyx]

You do know that 2142 was originally based on another planet.

[remote kiln]

seems they're leaning towards bf3/BF4

[sharp marten]

Where have you seen talk like that?

[next onyx]

U.S Vs PAC.

[sharp marten]

I’m for it

[remote kiln]

Marcus lehto has been tweeting about it over the last few months

[idle lion]

btw are they gonna be adding a singleplayer campaign to 2042 or was that some copium

[remote kiln]

copium

they said outright a campaign wasn't happening

[wild marlin]

2042 should've just been a bf4 remaster and everyone would've been happy

[sharp marten]

Huge copiun and hopium

[kindred flint]

the guy from bf4?

[remote kiln]

if it was a BF4 remaster it would have been hated even more

[hexed mango]

rip pak

[wild marlin]

they didn't have to kill him

[next onyx]

Entire nation versus one person.

[wild marlin]

that was so dumb how they killed off characters for no reason

[idle lion]

"Activate windows 10" watermark goes hard when it blocks an enemy in the bottom right of the screen

[wild marlin]

objectively incorrect opinion 💀

[hexed mango]

bro just activate windows :)

[next onyx]

Oh no they killed off characters.
Anyways.

[remote kiln]

is it? try convincing people to pay $70 for a game, that already exists

[kindred flint]

its worse when characters kill themselves off irl 💀

[wild marlin]

kmssuto net

[next onyx]

Remasters are nice and all but then you remember how cancer the game originally was.

[remote kiln]

it doesn't go down very well

[wild marlin]

bro actually assumes the worst case scenario every time 💀

bro assumes improvements wouldn't be made or thing change for the better 💀

[remote kiln]

but it's still bf4

you can't sell that for MSRP

[wild marlin]

you really think

EA is beyond that

[hexed mango]

BC3 please :)

[remote kiln]

beyond what?

[wild marlin]

I'll have whatever you're smoking

[remote kiln]

yeah my guy, cause nobody will buy it lol

doesn't matter if they do it or not

[hexed mango]

i dont smoke stuff someone online gives me

[remote kiln]

they'll just play what they own

[sharp marten]

Tbh I gotta agree I doubt bf4 remake would get much sales

[wild marlin]

they literally could've copy pasted the entire game of bf4, reskin all the guns and vehicles to a later variant and everyone would've opened there wallets for that

[hexed mango]

people might resent it for being new

[remote kiln]

a remaster of BF3 was already considered by DICE before and it didn't get the reception that people with window blinds for nostalgia think it would

[wild marlin]

cuz as it stands, bf4 has the best formula for a battlefield game

[hexed mango]

L launch

[remote kiln]

dude times have moved on

[wild marlin]

ok and

[remote kiln]

you can't have a remaster of a 6 year old game in today's market

[sharp marten]

Well I mean

[hexed mango]

new > remaster

[wild marlin]

bro what

[sharp marten]

Dead space

[chilly dove]

A setting less than 10 years from whenever BF4 took place, sign me up for the mp for that.

[wild marlin]

it's 10 years old

[remote kiln]

free to play rules, and it's for a game that already exists

[wild marlin]

once again, please share with me the contacts of your local dealer

[remote kiln]

I'm taking about when it ceased support lol

[wild marlin]

I need to talk to this guy

[remote kiln]

aka, the CTE

[hexed mango]

9-1-1

[wild marlin]

his shit must be insane

bro actually acquired the Deep state, government subsidized drugs 💀

[remote kiln]

yeah sure my guy keep up this fantasy you've made for yourself that the battlefield playerbase are going to buy a reskinned copy of a game in the millions

[chilly dove]

lol u 2

[hexed mango]

always

[sharp marten]

So look at it this way right say they do remaster it people will see it like “hey that’s cool and all but this game already happened we want new” you feel me?

[remote kiln]

DICE literally already asked folk if they'd buy a remaster and the answer was no

[wild marlin]

why do people assume it's gonna be a copy paste, modern warfare was remastered and no one seems to see a problem

it's almost like they think the devs are incapable of innovation or improvement 💀

[remote kiln]

because COD has what battlefield doesn't, people invested in the characters for the campaign and it's story, and they have for years

battlefield has.. multiplayer, some nice dlc, that's it

good luck convincing players to pay for 90% of what they already play

[wild marlin]

javelin top attack did more damage last I remember

[hexed mango]

idk id only play it cause its new but i wouldnt get attached

[wild marlin]

if the target was laser designated

[remote kiln]

and that's exactly why a remaster is DOA

[hexed mango]

i agree

[wild marlin]

like imo, the javelin if top attack is enabled, should hit for 50

[remote kiln]

it's kinda, ironic really that ghost in COD, has more recognition and fanfare than battlefield maps do

[hexed mango]

lol

[tough folio]

because casuals follow shop

[remote kiln]

er COD casuals yes, but it goes much further than just that

people who don't play the game know the name, and his face from the past games, and that has a deep impact on emotional attachment

meanwhile battlefield has, what half the playerbase not even knowing wake Island is a map based on older games

[wild marlin]

this new engineer proficiency is so cringe

dice devs b like "hmm engineer? they should use lmgs 🤡🤡🥸"

[chilly dove]

i don't like the proficiency buffs they're going with or how classes are matched with some of those gun categories

[wild marlin]

preach

like the first proposed assault proficiency was good

[chilly dove]

what was it?

[hexed mango]

better (quicker) sprint to fire time

[wild marlin]

but nah

[chilly dove]

and it only would work with assault rifle class?

[hexed mango]

correct

[wild marlin]

sir are you using an AR with assault? here have 3 extra clips

that should help 😳😳😂😊😊

[chilly dove]

so what magic would make that not something that would work with say SMG?... whatever... game lore... whatever

[hexed mango]

i mean its supposed to promote certain gun types in a certain class

assault is typically ARs, so its ars for the buff

[wild marlin]

it's literally just "what you're meant to use"

[hexed mango]

it is weird, but idk the concept is interesting

[chilly dove]

I just feel like they could give that proficiency to more than gun category is all.

[shy perch]

Do we know when 3.2 hits?

[wild marlin]

well no it's just that because guns aren't locked to classes anymore, there was so incentive for you to use what you didnt like

[shy perch]

Other than sometime this month

[hexed mango]

nope

[shy perch]

Rip

[hexed mango]

just sometime in the next 10 days

[shy perch]

Thanks

[chilly dove]

like maybe sniping proficiencies for recon could go to sniper rifle AND dmr

[shy perch]

Not too far then

[wild marlin]

literally tho, I have 0 issue with a class being proficient in more than 1 gun

[hexed mango]

ig... idk i think if they have this hard of a time making the proficiencies, they shoulda just scrapped them all in all

[chilly dove]

i dunno

[shy perch]

Maybe yk how there was those patches you could use in bf4 that give you bonus stealth or assault or stuff like that ?

[wild marlin]

you know that those decisions where made based off of monitored play sessions with people with arbitrary opinions

[hexed mango]

i mean they were going the right direction with the first proficiencies... this imo is a step back

[wild marlin]

you mean the field upgrades?

[shy perch]

Yeah

[wild marlin]

preach

rather have the first set of proficiencies

than the second

[chilly dove]

if they buff portal and make a 3.1.2 legacy mode an option, they can do w/e they want with the main game imo

[wild marlin]

or just like have a test branch

[calm bison]

I put the packet on the glass

[chilly dove]

3.1.2 + all the new gadgets and weapons as they release.

[hexed mango]

nah

[shy perch]

What about the carbine, marksman, shotguns, was it smgs? Or pwds that

[chilly dove]

as a portal option, let me dream

[hexed mango]

smgs

support has a smg proficiency

[shy perch]

They could get a buff using the field upgrades too

[shy perch]

Thats right

Shouldnt it be the engineers though like previous titles

And support having LMGs?