battlefield-2042

[spiral folio]

Yea xp is.. whatever

Like ooOooo your player card has a rank on it

[solid imp]

I would imagine it would be a slow rollout type deal like... first you can move crates and map-spawned vehicles... later on you can maybe move an actual flag

[spiral folio]

Infinite lis rocket server

[solid imp]

but it seems far fetched 😦

more like a next-BF thing if the portal model stays

[spiral folio]

Rapid reload

Low walls freakin everywhere

[patent prism]

Tbh I would be very open to the idea of map making competitions for Battlefield <next number> where the community can produce their own maps and layouts for inclusion in the full game via popular vote.

[solid imp]

communities are what keep games alive

[patent prism]

We did get something like that in the final days of BF4 iirc where the community could influence the design of a map I can't currently remember the name of, but I'm talking an actual editor for building the terrain from the ground up.

[next onyx]

I don't want portal to return but I wouldn't mind remade maps.

[spiral folio]

I kinda feel like portal will eventually become that kinda thing where in thr old days we had mod servers with new maps. If they make a map editor itd do that

[solid imp]

Portal + map editor would be a great way to let the community be a part of making this or any other BF alive for a good while.

[patent prism]

So, I'm an ex-Arma 3 fanatic (been clean for 6 months) and I can tell you without any reservations that there is no way that game would have survived without the various mod tools.

Moddability and community involvement is how you keep audiences coming back.

[solid imp]

Hi Hobbyist, congrats on getting your 6 month coin 🙂

[patent prism]

But therein lies the issue; EA/DICE is a profit-seeking company, they don't win on long-term play of a single title, they win on hyping up the next installment which comes out every 2-3 years.

[solid imp]

AAA problems

[patent prism]

Yep

[solid imp]

I mean right now could be a golden opportunity though... they're working on wrangling a really divided fanbase let alone the hype factor

[patent prism]

DICE could probably kill Call of Duty entirely by having the same level of moddability as Arma 3 tbh.
Addendum: Without the clunky interfaces and tools

[solid imp]

BF1 was such a fork in the road moment for BF and BFV just kept that going. So all the BF3/4 folks stayed with 3/4 for years and 2042 didn't re-unite the two sides. So here we are.

[patent prism]

Yeah

[arctic grove]

meanwhile

BF4 is close to getting WR

I am excited

[patent path]

bc2 side is getting owned by bf3 snipers lol

[pallid hedge]

Haven’t played since launch and just redownloaded it anything interesting new?

[solid imp]

Some reworked maps, some new maps, new weapons, new operators, and many many bug fixes. But paradigm shift when the 3.2 update rolls the class system out.

I'm biased but imo worth it to give the game a try again, it's wayyyyy smoother than it was at launch

[mighty holly]

Ngl kinda want to play bf2042 just because of that

sadly what’s holding me back is the question of to kamikaze or not to kamikaze

also I may do it again when I’m off work

[slender hare]

ok cuz I think this is a good game, many said it was bad until 2042 released

rip

rn I enjoy 2042

[arctic grove]

Hey

im only here for portal

dont mind me

[slender hare]

but DANG I hate the specialists and the flat maps

and no destruction 😭

at least the rocket is cool

[shy latch]

it's always the same story: a new BF comes out and it's bad but the previous one was good; always been like that since my first BF I played

[slender hare]

bruh

I'm here since BFV :/

[arctic grove]

bruh

im here since 3

[slender hare]

cool

you pro

I'm watching BF3 trailers sometimes and it looks amazing

[arctic grove]

remember when BF had opening intro

[slender hare]

?

what is that

[arctic grove]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YhBaC1BrPC4&t=32s

this

[spiral folio]

When cod went modern like 2 of 50 from my server i used went over

And about as many went to the dog shooting game

[chilly jacinth]

the what

[spiral folio]

I met more on world of tanks

World at war. The dog shooting sim

[chilly jacinth]

oh

[spiral folio]

And then after that cod went on its insane future arc

Until they literally had power armor and space ships

[radiant prism]

Justice for IW

[spiral folio]

And then hard U turned to ww2 right when BF1 came out and got destroyed

[radiant prism]

The campaign slaps

And art style is amazing

[spiral folio]

Infinite warfare combat evolved

[next onyx]

M16 kinda feeling amazing.

[pearl ridge]

And they fixed that shit within like... a month. Tops.

Jesus some people have no patience.

Speaking of a lack of patience, they always seem to jump ship as soon as the TTK exceeds COD's.

Jumpy little bastards can't comprehend having to actually keep on a target for longer than half a second.

[next onyx]

The TTK change was extremely badly balanced.

It made no sense.

[pearl ridge]

Some weapons did alright by it. LMGs got totally fucked though.

I swear did they even test the FG-42 there

[next onyx]

Plus battlefield has always for the most part had a longer TTK than COD's, Difference is that since battlefield has a slighter longer TTK is allows for some lenience.

Half of the guns it did right by.

But for the others it didn't do anything well.

[pearl ridge]

And they always complain so much if their guns have any recoil whatsoever.

Way I see it we could do with some damn horizontal recoil around here.

Does it even exist in 2042? It comes up with some of the attachments but I've never seen it once.

[next onyx]

It does exist.

But we can reduce it.

It's more noticeable on the longer ranged weaponry.

[willow sky]

I notice it a ton especially on DMRs.

[next onyx]

SCAR, Avancys, PKP.

[pearl ridge]

Seems like it's only the miniscule amounts of vertical recoil that can be magically compensated into a laser beam

Bah, never saw that shit in BF1.

[willow sky]

arcom muzzle brake ftw

[pearl ridge]

I must be the only fucking guy in this game that wants the shooting to be harder

[next onyx]

People just control recoil. Really that's how it works.

It's easy to control it but it takes a while to completely understand it.

The fg42 kicked hard when I first used it..

Now for me it's my most accurate gun.

[pearl ridge]

People complained so much about BF1's random bullet deviation when it was literally just horizontal recoil and was easily controlled by not firing willy-nilly like an idiot.

They're rifles, not airsoft.

[next onyx]

It wasn't just the recoil it was the spread.

As in.

[pearl ridge]

They all must've been shooting wrong back then, my shots always were on target.

[next onyx]

I fire a semi I get cucked my rando deviation because well... honestly I'm not even sure half the time. Either because I'm moving which why does it affect me accuracy now rather then later, etc.

[royal swan]

Bf1 bullet deviation wasn't that far off

If you were like shooting farther ranges then yeah

[royal trail]

it would be fun if you could randomly drop your gun while running or jumping while shooting and it bounce off the ground and hit yourself

i mean who jumps and shoots at the same time, no way you can aim like that

[pearl ridge]

It made them feel a lot more alive, rather than just being automatons who have perfect aim all the time

[royal swan]

But anything close up you wouldn't notice it

[next onyx]

Semis being made for range you'd notice it.

[royal swan]

Even in medium ranges the bullet deviation wasn't enough to chuck you

[pearl ridge]

Wasn't exactly getting beamed by SMGs from a hundred metres back then

And that's how I bloody well liked it.

[next onyx]

You don't need deviation to balance smgs, you can always reduce their velocities and give them pitiful damage at a range.

[royal swan]

Semi auto is for like medium ranges

Snipers are for longer ranges

[next onyx]

Infact that's what they've always been like.

[pearl ridge]

BF1's weapon balance was mostly amazing, outside of certain outliers. Everything actually felt useful.

[royal swan]

^

[pearl ridge]

In 2042 I outright ignore some weapons because their niche legitimately doesn't work anymore.

[next onyx]

For the most part 2042 weapons are good.

[pearl ridge]

Shotguns? You won't live long enough to get that close.

[next onyx]

Everything is usable.

Except for the m1911 .

[pearl ridge]

And even if you do, it'll probably whiff anyway.

[next onyx]

I need to give the 880 a proper go.

[royal swan]

2042 has a bunch of useless weapons

[spiral folio]

Yea shotguns if you only ever live in spearheads factory boxes

[royal swan]

It's pathetic

[pearl ridge]

Come on man I got three masteries with the 1911 until I swapped to the Rex

[royal swan]

Almost all of the vault weapons are useless compared to the main guns

Except lmgs

[spiral folio]

You know if they didnt have shotguns theyd have people beg for shotguns

[next onyx]

M1911 works but its sway is bad.

Its iron sight sway.

[pearl ridge]

The 1911 is a pistol it's not exactly built for range.

[next onyx]

You know the thingie.

[royal swan]

They would be using the burst glock

[next onyx]

No the sway sucks up close as well that's my point.

[spiral folio]

1911s are pretty heavy

[royal swan]

Even if the 1911 was good, the Glock will still be everyone's fav and go too sidearm

[pearl ridge]

The G57 is just... well, it's too good. There's no reason to use anything else...

[next onyx]

M1911, mp412 and the m93r are pretty useful.

[royal swan]

Not compared to the burst glock

[next onyx]

Mp412 being a fast revolver which punishes you heavily if you lose.

450 rpm 4hk.

That's pretty slow ttk.

It's true niche lies in burst.

[royal swan]

Also Glock has drum mag

[next onyx]

Drums don't really mean anything for a singular target.

[pearl ridge]

I don't know why they thought it'd be a good idea to just let people use extended mags

[next onyx]

M93r a good burst pistol which actually kills quickly closer up.

[royal swan]

It mean more ammo which people like

[next onyx]

I don't see the problem with extended mags.

[patent path]

extended mags should come with way heavier penalties

[royal swan]

Way is stupid confirmed

[next onyx]

M1911 pew pew pew.

[pearl ridge]

Weapon balance is a difficult thing to get right, and letting people tote around an unreasonable amount of ammunition doesn't help it.

[next onyx]

You don't have to be rude towards me.

[spiral folio]

Unreasonable

[royal swan]

Extended mags are the reason most mains weapons are preferred to be used than any vault gun

[spiral folio]

A standard combat load is like 200rd

[next onyx]

Yeah extended mags are for the most part why portal weapons suffer.

But if portal weapons were given a bit of extra rounds they'll be fine.

[royal swan]

And for sidearms, there are only two guns with sizable ammo count that's the burst glock and what should be an auto sidearm but isn't

[next onyx]

I don't think the m16 needs 40 rounds. 35 is enough.

[spiral folio]

They could give portal weapons ammo types. Wouldnt kill em

[next onyx]

Coincidentally. You could run a 35 round mag for the m16 on bfh.

[royal swan]

No one uses it

[spiral folio]

Extended mag on a 1911 though

Make it jam every 2 shots

[royal swan]

Why even use it when we have a m5

[next onyx]

M16a3 has much more range.

Better velocity to boot.

[royal swan]

M5

M5

[next onyx]

M5a3 has less range and worse velocity yet can run a 40 round mag. I know what I'm running.

[royal swan]

Better firing rate and ammo capacity

Then use the ak

[next onyx]

They have the same RPM.

Last time I checked.

[royal swan]

Not with the small barrel

[next onyx]

Just with the short barrel it's 800.

[royal swan]

And the smg mag

Which holds a lot of ammo

[pearl ridge]

The M16 always felt weak to me for some reason

[next onyx]

Close combat kills in 6 rounds.

[royal swan]

Some how

The use the ak or the bulpulp assault gun

[spiral folio]

Cause 556 is weak

[royal swan]

All better than the m16

[next onyx]

I could use the scar if I wanted to. But the m16 literally does more than the ak will ever do.

[pearl ridge]

Like I’ll use the M5 plenty enough, but the M16 just feels like I’m using an airsoft replica.

[royal swan]

Hell even the bsvm

[next onyx]

Why would I need the VSS.

If you want to look at a genuinely bad rifle. Look at the acwr in its current state.

That thing is not it's original self.

Nor is the a91.

[royal swan]

Most vault guns aren't

[next onyx]

All the other portal guns are pretty good.

Except for those two guns

[pearl ridge]

Could be related to the fact it’s a portal weapon. They all feel kind of shoddy compared to the 2042 ones.

Worse animations and sounds

[next onyx]

Xm8 MG rips a new one. M60 is a ranged monster.

[royal swan]

What was the smg vault weapon

Not the p90

The dogshit one

[next onyx]

AKS which was recently buffed.

[spiral folio]

Even if they like refused to add extended mags they could at least add like AP or HV mags to vault stuff

[royal swan]

Still underclass then the main smg

[next onyx]

Though that suffers from an smg issue where reduced HS Multiplier.

[royal swan]

Would be using the k30

[next onyx]

Why use the k30 over the PDX.

[pearl ridge]

Theoretically AP rounds would be useful for dealing with, well, armoured infantry, but there’s no way to tell who’s using that stuff

[next onyx]

P90 is pretty good though. Just wish it retained its hipfire accuracy from bf3.

[pearl ridge]

Armour’s always just a rude surprise

[royal swan]

Pdx is alright

Better then the vault weapons yeah

[next onyx]

It's the best smg but smgs are bad.

[royal swan]

Rather use the bsvm, better smg in the wrong category

[next onyx]

The reduced hs multiplier makes them inferior to the am40.

Seriously just abuse the am40 if you want to win the game.

[pearl ridge]

The am40’s reload is blazingly quick

Can’t imagine what it’s going to be like with standard rounds

[next onyx]

I don't mind its reload I don't care but it irks me the wrong way it has better close range damage than smgs and has the 2.15x hs multiplier.

[pearl ridge]

I mean, SMGs are an obsolete weapon class.

[next onyx]

Did they really shaft smgs just for the am40.

[royal swan]

Most guns do now

[pearl ridge]

But that’s real life

[next onyx]

Smgs can work in the game but the fact that they made them like this doesn't sit well.

[pearl ridge]

Problem always comes back to one thing: average engagement ranges.

2042 is super expansive and most weapons reach out far.

[next onyx]

I've always been able to somewhat compensate for that by throwing smoke everywhere, weaving in and out of cover and just making it work..

[pearl ridge]

SMGs suffer because they don’t.

[next onyx]

Assault rifles like the m16 might be more practical for most of the engagements but when you really want to tear people up the PBX is a must have.

[royal swan]

But it's not

[next onyx]

Just know to avoid longer sightlines and that.

[royal swan]

I actually forgot about the sfar

[harsh violet]

Any one up for a game

[next onyx]

!!lfg

[tender pendant]

ℹ Looking for Players to play with?
Head over to the Looking For Games channel category.
Please remember to state your region when looking for players to play with!
#lfg-crossplay #lfg-pc #lfg-xbox #lfg-playstation

[pearl ridge]

Snipers also suffer because they have to sit back even further than usual just to survive, exacerbating the camper problem

[royal swan]

Sfar fucks every assault gun in range

Plus drum mag

[next onyx]

300 ms TTK average out to 49 m. Standard turns it into an AK12. It's competitive.

[royal swan]

The recoil is really manageable, and you could beam a good distance

[pearl ridge]

The sfar sometimes feels outright unfair. This thing has no weaknesses

[next onyx]

Using the m16 which is a 5hk out to 74m with a quick ttk average is why I prefer using that over any other assault rifle.

[royal swan]

But the sfar exists

And it's better and unfair

[next onyx]

M16 kills quicker. Scar is more suited for range where the user can use cover more effectively.

[arctic grove]

best assault rifle?

[pearl ridge]

Honestly, when it comes to guns, they can be good, bad, average… but for the love of god don’t make them boring

[royal swan]

M16 is like a decent Vault weapon but it ain't competitive, especially when you live long enough to run out of ammo

[next onyx]

M5, m16, am40 and the scar.

[royal swan]

Unless you die a lot and skip that part of the gun in a argument

[next onyx]

Ammo isn't an issue here.

Cause box.

And since we'll be getting more ammo through perks it'll be even better to use.

[pearl ridge]

The Hellreigel was consistently one of the best guns in BF1 and I avoided it because it was boring.

[next onyx]

@arctic grove Not sure if you saw but M5, scar, m16 and the am40.

I kept to support because the guns interested me there. Bar was my go to because I liked the bar.

[pearl ridge]

The 1900 and M30 Drilling were difficult to properly utilise and had better options available, but they were fun as hell.

[next onyx]

Really the only reason why I mained the fg42 was because I genuinely enjoyed the gun for what it brought.

I always thought it was some inferior assault rifle but it actually wasn't. It was a well regarded gun in the community.

Which made me happy.

[placid echo]

5.2 @next onyx

[pearl ridge]

I like guns with a kick to them. The meta always settles on something flatter than my ass.

[next onyx]

I'm aware. 5.2 ruined it.

[royal swan]

Also my last factor for guns is sounds

They gotta sound nice

[next onyx]

Why do you think I liked the scar in 2042. It had good kick and the reward was good.

[knotty charm]

Plz dice forr the love of God make the teams more Balanced 1 round Every1 is recon Sniper other rounds there are non te be seen

[placid echo]

AM40 is nice for me

[next onyx]

I gave it an arcom to increase its vertical recoil.

And reward my aim more.

[pearl ridge]

Damn straight I need sound.

[placid echo]

Fart.mp3 for each shot

[pearl ridge]

One of those things any good shotgun has down.

[royal swan]

If they sound like pop rocks but it's based boosted and volume to the max then no thank you

[next onyx]

Oh yeah I should be a meme lord with the m26 mass on the m16 because gun recoil is less floatier.

[pearl ridge]

Screw 12g, I want an 8g double barrel. Or even bigger if they can manage it.

[placid echo]

I like how the guns sound in this game ngl

[royal swan]

M16 firing sound is wack

[next onyx]

I like its reload sound.

[pearl ridge]

Two rounds with enough power to blow someone’s heart through their spine.

[royal swan]

I had to actually see if a real m16 sounds like that

They don't btw

[placid echo]

Like how a 9mm can blow the lung right out of a body?

[pearl ridge]

Can’t they just put some 1942 weapons in

[royal swan]

It's been hinted with the new player card

The revolver and the shotgun will be somewhat used competitively

The revolver has no recoil

And the shotgun is better than the msc880

[pearl ridge]

Anything is better than the 880

[kindred flint]

Haha what a silly meme you've said.... its just a meme right guys??

[pearl ridge]

Even that rotary magazine piece of shit shotgun would be better than that.

[kindred flint]

Doa12?

[pearl ridge]

That one

[kindred flint]

First time that's ever been called better

[spiral folio]

Fallout combat shotgun

[pearl ridge]

Tried it in 4, it was awful.

[kindred flint]

The reload was just so bad...and irl it's hilariously shit

I remember it from bf2

[next onyx]

I want a spas 12 to hunt a vewociwaptow!

[placid echo]

Not me

[pearl ridge]

Shotguns worked okay in 4, so long as you were on an infantry map

[next onyx]

Cy somehow made a drilling work on panzer storm.

[pearl ridge]

So did I, he ain’t special

[next onyx]

Never said he was.

[kindred flint]

I enjoyed spamming shells with that thing

[serene sable]

[next onyx]

Would of liked an upgrade to change its rifle round to a buckshot.

Or vice versa.

Triple rifle shot or buckshot.

[pearl ridge]

God the M30 is fantastic. Still personally prefer the 1900 slug rounds

[next onyx]

In hardline we had a mammoth gun.

[pearl ridge]

But it just felt right

[next onyx]

Which was a triple barreled shotgun that used slugs.

[pearl ridge]

Hardline seemed to get all the cool shit

[next onyx]

Hardline had a unique interaction with multi barreled shotguns.

You could set the fire mode to expend all the shells in a single go.

The recoil would be ludicrous and you'd be dead if you missed but it made ranged shots easier and improved consistency.

[pearl ridge]

The 1900 had that too, though there’s a short delay between both shells.

[next onyx]

Hardlines was almost instant.

Wasn't instant with the mammoth gun.

[pearl ridge]

Dice pls

I want this gun

I want a cannon

[next onyx]

Come to think of it.

Those rounds might of been nitro express.

[spiral folio]

19th century ballistics though

[pearl ridge]

Why do they never use fun stuff anymore

[spiral folio]

Its basically a big musket

[pearl ridge]

Perfect

[spiral folio]

Modern problems require modern solutions

[pearl ridge]

I want to blow a golf ball sized hole in their chest

They are dead on the spot

[spiral folio]

I mean like theres much more powerful longer flying rounds

[pearl ridge]

Swap to Obrez, miss entirely because it’s a rifle without a barrel

Nails the enemy’s Ranger

Fix bayonet and shank the last guy

[spiral folio]

They use a Gepard G3 in the anime Black lagoon

[pearl ridge]

That’s how I want to play.

[spiral folio]

Another huge 14.5mm rifle

The m6 lynx looks pretty neat. Just 50cal though

[kindred flint]

I prefer the 7 barrel gun from ages ago

[spiral folio]

The obrez was great

Id play a game where i tried to hit planes 5/5 times

Longer barrel doesn't make way more accurate. Just faster

So there's some drop to it

Like a Glock youll get about 1100fps byt a carbine will get about 1400fps from the same round

Eventually also if you extend the barrel longer and longer the friction on the barrel overwhelms and the diminishing expansion pressure diminishes

[knotty charm]

I m’n in a server with a hacker rn hè cant die

Nice job dev team

[spiral folio]

Did you report him

[knotty charm]

Jup and the server he had on portal

Plus the Guys who where with HIM

[spiral folio]

Seems easy to avoid then

[knotty charm]

Yea but cmon Thats just blatant bs

[spiral folio]

They don't necessarily last long

I don't know how long it takes for their system to deal with a cheater but its probably not instant

[knotty charm]

Thats easy get better anti cheat software

[spiral folio]

Such as

[chilly jacinth]

there is no anti cheat that catches all cheaters

[radiant prism]

I've never come across a blatant cheater yet

[spiral folio]

Yea such an easy solution you don't know one

[chilly jacinth]

ive come across like 6 cheaters

[knotty charm]

I dont know the name of the game but there is one that pauses/cancels the match and kicks the cheater out

[spiral folio]

Yea i havent seen somebody just blatantly cheating

Well then it's not an easy solution

And maybe you're not an expert

[radiant prism]

I remember seeing clips from BF4/1/V of people flying around the map headshotting everyone. That's nonexistent in 2042 as far as I've seen

[chilly jacinth]

sounds like a vote kick system

which sucks balls

[knotty charm]

Did i say I was aan expert ??

[spiral folio]

Id bet EA makes a new anticheat thing every new game

[knotty charm]

Automated detection

[radiant prism]

This is the first game to have Easy Anticheat which has worked really well so far

[spiral folio]

Like punkbuster used to be a big one but it also kicked people for no reason too

Detection isnt perfect

[sharp marten]

I beg your pardon

[knotty charm]

Agreed but it shows some holes that need to be plugged

[royal swan]

I haven't met a cheater yet

Or one that was obvious

[chilly jacinth]

the anticheat we have right now is pretty good

[royal swan]

Better than playing bfv

Tbh

[spiral folio]

Over time cheaters find a way around all anti cheat stuff thats why you see invisible fuckers on bf1

[chilly jacinth]

see?

[sharp marten]

Same here I’ve seen people complain about cheaters but 9 times out of 10 they’re just a better player

[chilly jacinth]

how can you see them

[spiral folio]

So like no system is perfect but the newer game is typically better at stopping it

[knotty charm]

Thats a Bold statement to make but yea most ppl complain to Quick … however this was obvious no hit Marks even on cqb

[spiral folio]

The one exception i know was bf3 it had massjve security issues

[next onyx]

Vowiciwaptow

[spiral folio]

Oh speaking of gibberish

I found a rifle thatd be perfect for 2042

[sharp marten]

You actually explained this pretty well I’m hoping if it’s not already to late 2042 brings people back of the next game

[spiral folio]

The Indian rifle
Vidhwansak

Its a 14.5mm sniper rifle

Well 50cal 14.5 or 20mm

And heavy af

Forgettable name impossible to say, huge, foreign. Checks all the boxes

Trex or alligator sound too cool

[twin ledge]

What's the pont of HP on ntw?

[spiral folio]

Less drop

More reloading

Their way of trying to make the ntw less worthless is to nerf the rail

[chilly jacinth]

more vehicle damage

is the point

[spiral folio]

It barely does damage to begin with so i cant image the damage difference is much or worth it

Consider after the class nerf youll get 26 entire bullets

Which rules out recons from using it entirely

[arctic grove]

Anyone else getting cloud save error?

[quaint vector]

No

[spiral folio]

Saitama "20 words or less!"

Saitama "20 words or less!"

Genos "my master is a busy man, keep it to 20 words or less"

[spare quest]

[drowsy shuttle]

usually rebooting PC fixes it for me

[solid imp]

buuut NTW will be 1HK anywhere with those 26 bullets with an

Immediate, constant and steady scope
not the case for other sniper rifles

or rorsch

[spiral folio]

XD yea... steady scope with 2 whole bullets

Honestly if despite all logic you still choose to use the ntw. Itd be better with a support character

[solid imp]

Just making a case for it 🙂 I don't think all hope is lost on the NTW and even less so after that recon buff

[spiral folio]

Yea like with ammo levels you cant use it anti vehicle

Getting a jeep down 1/4 will burn through all your ammo

And take a half an hour to do it

Unless the ntw gets a massive catastrophic damage buff itll lose out to the rail 19 times out of 20

[solid imp]

In a 1:1 recon standoff where both players are expert headshot marksman yes the ntw will lose out because who wants that longer reload time

but that's not all players by any means

[clever marlin]

I’ve actually been falling in love with the dxr

[solid imp]

I'm not making the case that NTW will be any better against vehicles, but I think there's a section of players that will gravitate to a 1HK weapon on body hits

[spiral folio]

In my expert opinion the NTW should be massively changed to focus on vehicles. Like buff rhe damage for light vehicles/air a ton. Buff the dsmage vs like the Ram a bit. And maybe to tanks a little. Make it fire bipod only

[willow sky]

God i love one shotting people with NTW

[spiral folio]

Like make people work for it but make it worth while

[willow sky]

you either miss and die or hit and win

then die from 3 other people

[royal swan]

I realized most of the 1942 weapons are bugged

[solid imp]

You want to penalize the NTW even more by enforcing bipod..?

It feels like you're already trading off a lot just to use it lol

[spiral folio]

I want its damage to reflect being 20mm

So like devastating but still difficult to use

[royal swan]

They are off center when using different scopes

[spiral folio]

Give it explosive rounds too cause it needs 3 ammo types at least

[solid imp]

Enter tank driver stage left
Tank Driver: Now see here, no more weapons that make it impossible to survive for more than 30 seconds since MBT still doesn't have APS

It's not about reflecting 20mm it's about balancing a video game lol

[royal swan]

Also one of the sights can be completely whitened out by the lighting and it really fucks you up badly

[solid imp]

Satisfying keyboard warriors

[spiral folio]

The thing is even if each ntw shot did 5% of a tanks hp. It fires as slow as a ntw. You'd have to hit a tank 20 times, which is at least 5 reloads to 100% a tank

[royal swan]

Game mode was fun but seriously, why do we have a problem with sights not being accurate

[solid imp]

Yes now give that weapon to 64 players lol

[spiral folio]

Hell even if each shot did 10% its still 3 reloads and like 20s per shot

They could give it the rail treatment and take away big scopes since its meant for vehicles

[solid imp]

When you're talking about Infantry vs Vehicle balance you have to figure more than one person on a team is using a thing

[crimson spade]

the update is out right

[spiral folio]

The fire rate is slow and if you forced it bipodded it means they cant just quickscope and hide

[solid imp]

Vehicles are against the NTW, Rorsch, C5, M5, TGM, AT Mines, soon Jav,... I'm forgetting something? And and all that before they've even gone up against another vehicle or dodged a bombing run from a stealth

[crimson spade]

yo has the update release yet

[royal swan]

No

[solid imp]

Adding more oomph to infantry carried anti-vehicle weapons isn't a simple matter

[crimson spade]

when

[royal swan]

It's not coming on the 20th

[crimson spade]

then

[royal swan]

This month

[crimson spade]

wasn't it planned for 20th

[spiral folio]

Yea but an antitank sniper is against everything including the tank

And that's more

[royal swan]

If it was we would've been told that yesterday

[solid imp]

claymore

[spiral folio]

So like make the muzzle blast 20mm-like too

[royal swan]

We would be given patch notes yesterday

[spiral folio]

Kinda like when a tank fires everyone and their dog knows where it is

[royal swan]

I believe it's going to be after next week

On the last three days of January

[spiral folio]

Or you know
Don't add a rifle capable of shooting through a foot of concrete.

But i dont believe its impossible to balance it and make it powerful

[royal swan]

Y'all talking about the ntw

[spiral folio]

Yea

[solid imp]

Yeah the scope steadying thing is going to go in that direction yea? Balancing it to make it powerful, but mostly on the sniper rifle side of it not the anti-materiel

[royal swan]

It's fine the way it is, or make it as powerful as the k bullet or something

[spiral folio]

You could make it slow down the player carrying a 60lb rifle

[royal swan]

Um no, since when do we do that

[tacit sorrel]

I think it’s fine the way it is

[spiral folio]

Sentinel kit?

Its a joke the way it is

[royal swan]

This man bugging out

[tacit sorrel]

[spiral folio]

The ntw weighs as much as a m2 50cal machinegun.

[royal swan]

And?

[spiral folio]

Might as well add that too

[royal swan]

Not a bad idea

Add the m2

[spiral folio]

With a sawed off m95 sidearm

[solid imp]

If you want to slow player speed by carrying a weapon then bring back player stamina

so you can't dead out sprint forever

[spiral folio]

Ok

[solid imp]

and then go all the way

tie it to armor type

[spiral folio]

Ok

[solid imp]

you know.. like in BF2

and BF2142

[spiral folio]

Yea are you trying to make me regret this

Cause youre speakin my language now

[solid imp]

Unlike many people I don't mind the armor in 2042 and any "fixes" required don't involve removing it

lean into it

build it out

[royal swan]

I forgot that armor existed in this game tbh

[solid imp]

Just don't hand it out like candy (looking at you anghel)

[royal swan]

It has such little impact

[solid imp]

forgotten until you go toe-to-toe with that Irish who picks up armor from every dead body ammo pouch

[spiral folio]

The worst i encounter it js hitting a guy with a lis and "ugh armor"

[royal swan]

Waste of a rocket

Tbh

[spiral folio]

The way the ntw is in the game now is like basically a worse m95

[solid imp]

oh no we moved on man lol

armor now

[spiral folio]

Ah no

[royal swan]

Armor yeah

Not as bad

[spiral folio]

Well rifles are anti armor

[royal swan]

You still have enough bullets in a mag to kill them

[spiral folio]

Also
I miss my m95 from p4f and my gold one from heroes

I did get pics of my old bf heroes guy cause that was a good setup

[royal swan]

You can still one shot people with the ntw

[solid imp]

ok fine but still the NTW can simply disregard armor

[spiral folio]

You could pick two main guns

[royal swan]

Ntw is still regarded as the best sniper rifle

Sooo

[spiral folio]

Who says that

[royal swan]

Decent amount of people

[spiral folio]

5?

Cause the dxr is better anti-personel and the rail is better v vehicles

[royal swan]

Zanth, I'm starting to think this is a you problem with gun preference and all

[granite island]

The sws feels nicer than the ntw

[spiral folio]

nah i ditched the ntw and went to the dxr and the velocity and capacity are so much better than the ntw

[royal swan]

This is a certified don't like it, don't use it

[viral crescent]

How big of a deal are supressors for a beginner who is trying to die less in BF2042? Is this something "everyone" uses? Will it be noticeable on my death-rates?

[royal swan]

I don't use it

[granite island]

I forgot suppressors existed

[solid imp]

what weapon?

[royal swan]

Suppressors are not op despite what people think

[spiral folio]

Suppressors are ok if you flank a lot but less ok if you think it makes you invisible

[tacit sorrel]

I only use barrels and muzzles

[viral crescent]

I'm trying to get to grips with the M5A3 for now.

[solid imp]

yeah don't waste your time suppressing that

[royal swan]

You playing co op

[granite island]

As soon as someone sees a glowing bullet fly past them you're being hunted by atleast 6 people

[spiral folio]

Like if you get loke 70-90 degrees to an enemys side? A suppressor can hekp you get 3-4 shots off with a semi auto. But like it doesnt prevent direction indication entirely

[granite island]

So suppressors don't work that great

[royal swan]

Nope

[solid imp]

m5a3 shines in cq with short barrel to get that higher fire rate or if you're at mid-range you can completely eliminate the horizontal recoil with the Arcom

[royal swan]

Despite what everyone thinks about it

[viral crescent]

Idk? I don't think so.. Mainly Breakthrough of Conquest.. Eh if that answers your question?

[spiral folio]

Suppressed + subsonic just means when they hit the enemy. The enemy is told "enemy to your right somewhere" rather than "enemy 80 degrees right"

[royal swan]

Co op, playing with bots speeds up the unlocks process

Most players don't know that you can unlock weapon assignments and attachments by killing bots

[spiral folio]

If an enemy is in a firefight. Suppressors can keep your shots more annonymous.

But not hidden

[royal swan]

I'm in face to face combat so suppression is useless

Completely garbage

[spiral folio]

Yea its not gonna make you a ninja

Even irl a suppressor basically takes a gunshot from deafening to very loud

[royal swan]

Also subsonic is the last thing you want in a face to face situation

[spiral folio]

So from earplugs to "crap that was loud still"

[viral crescent]

I have the extended mag, close combat and high power ammo. A couple of sights which I think are ok, and use the short barrel and a small grip which I dont remember the name of but some youtuber said was good.

[solid imp]

yeah you're on the right track then with the m5a3 just play around with it

cq rounds got nerfed a bit

so standard extended plays a bit better these days

[spiral folio]

Soon as i unlock anything I go on a bot massacre

[wet elbow]

There is a double XP weekend. Is it work on custom servers?

[royal swan]

M5 works well with small barrel, smg rounds (the small mag), and dot sight

[solid imp]

if those custom servers are full xp probably

[spiral folio]

"Theyre robots morty keep shooting"
"I i i dont think theyre robots"
"Theyre beurocrats i dont respect them"

[granite island]

I wish the jet bullets was good against infantry

When you killed all the air units

All you're doing is flying in circles waiting for something to spawn in the air

[spiral folio]

Just hover with the f35 and hose em down

Nothing bad will happen

[viral crescent]

I try to see what the top ranked players are killing me with and I seldom see the M5, but I guess that is probably not very relevant..

[solid imp]

[royal swan]

[granite island]

That's why vtol mode sucks unless you're far from the ground

Or have good dodging skills

[spiral folio]

The only way jets would be good vs infantry is if you could robotech transform them and fight on foot

[granite island]

I wanna do a strafing run

[royal swan]

Make the jet bullets kill infantry with 2-3 shots

[spiral folio]

Or go to the half-robot hover mode and skim the surface

[granite island]

Make the jet bullets explode when it comes into contact with something

Or give it splash damage

[spiral folio]

Well it's only 20mm maybe 30 so when that hits a man on foot it just makes a really bad bruise

[royal swan]

THAT

yes make that

[arctic grove]

am I really unable to have a controller connected at the same time with mkb

i wanna have a controller connected for air vehicles

[granite island]

Basically make the bullets explode like the little bird 30mm

Or whatever the second bullet category for the little bird is

[spiral folio]

20mm round hits a ballistic vest "ow ow i need a new armor plate rated to 8mm"

Exploding crossbow bolt
100% ded

[granite island]

Arrow -50health

30mm jet bullet

-20% health

[spiral folio]

Consistent as rocky road icecream

[granite island]

Wouldn't a single jet bullet blow off a limb

Or something

[spiral folio]

Yea

20mm even 50cal hits you anywhere. Your war is over

[granite island]

I got an idea

Make all jet bullets do headshot damage for infantry

This is a good idea

[spiral folio]

ItS JuSt a GaMe
Is the usual response to consistency

[granite island]

Also pls fix 1942 vehicles

Feels like I'm driving in mud

[spiral folio]

Like if 2 rifles use the same bullet and have the same muzzle velocity

"Why does that one do less damage?"
"It fires faster"

[granite island]

Wait

Why do jets not carry bombs in 2042

Did they stop making bombs in the year 2042

[spiral folio]

BaLaNcE

The f35 also isnt stealth and cant multitarget and has to linger over a tiny engagement zone

[granite island]

I pray that season 4 adds a Russian vtol jet version

Or whatever Russia has for jets

[spiral folio]

Hobby store drones full of grenades

[viral crescent]

Another beginner question: I'm playing on a general purpose ultrawide 34" (3440 x 1440) 100Hz monitor. Is that an issue? Is it .. too wide for gaming or no?

[spiral folio]

I think people use wider. I guess it could get distracting?

[viral crescent]

Just found out it has a "game" setting so I'll try that and see if I immediately become a god...

Idk, I just feel disoriented in a lot of situations, but that might be just me being bad.

[spiral folio]

I use a 29" semi curved one it seems like enough

You might narrow your field of vision

[sharp marten]

Burger

[spiral folio]

I dont know quite how that works

Like if a wide screen will show further to the sides or less up and down

So you could narrow the field of view and then aave the rest of the screen for other stuff LiKe yOuR faVoRiTe DisCoRD sErVEr

[viral crescent]

Yeah, best not to miss a single msg in this server

[spiral folio]

Ie for some demented reason i use the ntw, while it reloads I'll see what the chats doin

Build a puzzle

Cook dinnner

Come back and fire my 2nd shot

[viral crescent]

What's ntw

[spiral folio]

A slow big rifle that does slightly more damage than others

[viral crescent]

Oh, I'm training to become the next BF Rambo so that's def not for me.

[spiral folio]

Probably try tonget the m5a3 lotta people like that one

[viral crescent]

Is there some kind of aim trainer, boot camp kind of thing, where I can improve my technique? I've tried that aim-trainer thing which you are about to recommend, but I was thinking more of something like shooting moving targets and getting a score which I could improve round after round...

[spiral folio]

Solo

[radiant prism]

Anyone else feel like anytime they get in a condor with that orange and green skin you're always in for the most wild-ride shit possible?

also I got sensor ball T1 i guess

[spiral folio]

The best way to kinda get the hang of things is practice some solo rounds

[viral crescent]

Against AI?

[spiral folio]

Yea theyre easy targets but kind of shoot back so you do have to try a little

Its good for experimenting without consequences

[viral crescent]

A target practice course kind of thing would be cool where you'd run through a given track and shoot various targets and get a score in the end.

Those bots are annoying, idk...

[spiral folio]

Yea i miss bf5s practice map

This is close and lets you learn maps too

[solid imp]

why does it feel like the game has assigned me to be "all time BT defender"

[spiral folio]

Cause you argued with me about the ntw

[solid imp]

[spiral folio]

Itd be nice if mm had some options like
[ ] different map please
[ ] different side
[ ] get me off this pos team

[ ] no servers with that guy again

[arctic grove]

imagine switch team

[viral crescent]

[ ] get me off this pos team <-- don't leave me man

[spiral folio]

But yes its annoying being perpetual defense

Ive had it like same side same map me 3x in a row like ok done

[viral crescent]

OK, enough yt theory. I'm off to the races to see if I can repeat my feat of more kills than deaths yesterday....

[spare quest]

ok

[crimson spade]

they need to add stuff to the jets fr, to make it be able to help infantry on the ground like bombs that are not op but at least you will be able to do something once you wrecked every vehicle in the sky

[dusk forum]

Just use the stealth copter

Or the ground missiles

[crimson spade]

jets be useless when not fighting other aerial vehicles

[sharp marten]

I played a game last night and I witnessed a man get slowly crushed to death by a tank

[hybrid totem]

Not a fan of AGMs?

[crimson spade]

wdym

[topaz field]

is the EA feedback for 3.2 still available on the forums i cant seem to find it

[hybrid totem]

Jets can fight ground vehicles with anti ground missiles

[arctic grove]

give JDAM

[hybrid totem]

I admit the options available are really sparse, but if you can't fight ground vehicles that's a loadout problem

[arctic grove]

giv

[echo yew]

wondering how the hourglass remake is gonna go

cause uhh unless they remake it from 0 it's doomed

[arctic grove]

No it’s not

Already the best map anyways, dunno what you’re talking about

[echo yew]

funny way to say manifest

[arctic grove]

But nah I kinda like the concept art hourglass tbh

So I’d like if they do something blending that into it

[echo yew]

the issue is that hourglass is a map made to look cool on a trailer, not for gameplay

[eager spire]

Manifest
Best Map

I swear, Manifest fans are just manufactured to make arguments

like

[arctic grove]

Manifest would be a whole lot better with climbing

[echo yew]

like hell, an army of soldiers and tanks rushing from the dunes into the city with the sandstorm behind them is cool as fuck

in a game? lol

[echo yew]

whats the top map then

[arctic grove]

disc-

In all seriousness I gotta say orbital

[spiral folio]

Dalia.. eh yea orbital or pre-ruined BT exposure was good

[radiant prism]

They wouldn’t know, they don’t actually play the game

[eager spire]

Spearhead

[echo yew]

fair enough

base maps though manifest clears and it's not even close

[spiral folio]

I used to like exposure BT but the new sectors are 70% ass

[arctic grove]

Season maps are all okay I’m just so burnt out on them

I matchmake into stranded and die inside

[radiant prism]

I personally like Kaleidoscope except for the last sector

[echo yew]

can't stand kaleidoscope

yet it's my most played map

cause the game forces me into it

7/10 lobbies for me are kaleidoscope

[spiral folio]

My big problem with kaleidoscope is how the enemy chopper has 100% free reign to go anywhere it wants

Other than that not the worst map

[arctic grove]

Orbital and Manifest I always enjoyed most. Something about both of the maps visuals but Orbitals nostalguh

[eager spire]

2042 has no dedicated infantry maps. They have maps that are "made for CQB combat", but they have vehicles anyway. or only have specific parts that are made for CQB combat.

[spiral folio]

Adding vehicles to stranded was a mistake on par with making the ntw

[smoky quest]

is there a way to invert jet mouse only? its the only one that is actually "inverted" by default.

[eager spire]

there are a lot of mistakes that were made with this game tbh

[arctic grove]

You mean to tell me you DONT like spawning in MAVs on Stranded BT?

[spiral folio]

Yea but vehicles on stranded? Its such a stupid mistake people still arent sure if it was on purpose

[eager spire]

i mean at this point if it's not changed, I would just assume it's intentional.

[spiral folio]

Or they forgot

Remind alex every time he's here

[eager spire]

That would imply that they don't play Stranded

[spiral folio]

[eager spire]

also i feel like someone else should be told about that, not Alex, Alex does weapons stuff. In fact I don't think whoever is responsible for the maps in this game even talks on Discord. Maybe they're on Twitter or something.

[dusk hedge]

Guys Double xp and Double xp Token = 3xp or 4xp?

[spiral folio]

Alex is the only one that shows up so

[chilly dove]

stay in school

[eager spire]

true.

[arctic grove]

Used to see T0TAL but it’s been quite a bit

[dusk hedge]

Dude i Know

[eager spire]

but yeah, there just aren't any infantry focused maps in this game. I'm guessing they just don't know how to make one that's good.

But then again that's not stopped them before.

They made like, 4 good infantry maps with the BF3 Close Quarters DLC, and then never did that again

[final tendon]

These aren’t the same devs tho are they?

[eager spire]

no probably not

i'd be very surprised if anyone that worked on map design from BF3 or BF4 is still working for the company at this point

[final tendon]

oh and me lol

[eager spire]

but it's the only frame of reference I have for infantry maps in Battlefield being good.

[deep bloom]

You can take out the vehicles out of most BC2 maps and they would be also considered good

[crimson spade]

its sometimes annoying when being in the middle of the dunes and getting sniped, the map is mostly mid-long ranged combat except for those 3 objects

its not bad but something about it doesn't make it balanced

[arctic grove]

It is a pretty cursed map I hear ya

[eager spire]

I donno, i'm talking purpose built infantry maps though.

[arctic grove]

Concept art hourglass simply has a little bit more stuff dotted around the map. Right now it’s like the dunes and 3 distinct areas as you said

The arch, stadium and city part. Only thing about the arch part in the concept art is there’s a skyscraper next to it

[rare bridge]

is there any game mode with more than one fighter jet per side?

[crimson spade]

don't think so

[arctic grove]

You may have to go to air superiority

[rare bridge]

[crimson spade]

besides that would be hell

2 fighter jets on one team

[arctic grove]

4 total

Pain

[crimson spade]

apart from the jets the helicopters would get their ass rolled

[arctic grove]

Funny enough attack helis can actually do very good against jets

They’d always try to strafe me and all I did was flare and lock onto them with AAMs and almost all the time they just flew off and left me alone

I dunno if you can still do it now, but if you fire the AAM when the jets really close it bypasses flares

[crimson spade]

if you have that free fire rocket you can really mess a helicopter up, you don't have to fly straight and be accurate you can just fire when your cursor or something is near the heli and its doomed, even when you are flying really close to it

i just tend to fly towards the helicopter and just rocket it with those rockets, don't have to wait like 3 seconds with those missiles

up close as well

[arctic grove]

Wait rockets with jets?

Oh do you mean active radar missiles?

[crimson spade]

missiles or anything call it what you will

yes

that

mb

[arctic grove]

Oh I gotcha now

All good

[deep bloom]

Nelson Bay was infy only, played pretty well

[arctic grove]

If you use those and keep range (preferably by using the F35) you can definitely counter helis

[crimson spade]

english isn't my first language, I know it well but I don't really get stuff correct at times

[eager spire]

i can't comment on that map, it's been ages since i've played BC2

and also BC2 has not aged well

[arctic grove]

No worries

[hybrid totem]

yes, when you go into key bindings, rebind the mouse to the "inverted" settings

[crimson spade]

the jets need stuff to them, it gets boring after a while just gunning helis and other jets, you can't really help with the actual objectives

stuff

[rare bridge]

well bf5 had more dogfights

i feel like they respawned more quickly too its a bit boring

[crimson spade]

they don't need to make bf2024 jets top tier, just able to help infantry

like bombs, that aren't op

but something that can help

And I know you guys will probably say those radar missiles but its a bigger chance you will probably crash when trying to ascend back up into the air when firing it, if you just fire it quickly and go up then there's a high chance you won't be accurate

[hybrid totem]

Jets help infantry by killing vehicles. Do you mean anti-infantry weapons?

[rare bridge]

yea i dont have the attachments yet because i just started but im assuming those are useful later on

your team can mark ground vehicles so you can fire aa missiles at them right? cuz sometimes i have the ability to lock onto ground targets

[tawny carbon]

Every thing on vehicles in general is anti infantry. Just some is more effective than others. Excluding ONLY anti air missiles. Aka lock on only ones XD

[hybrid totem]

yep, any missile can lock on to soflammed targets

Even the missile barrage missiles!

[rare bridge]

would be useful if more ppl did it because early on with a jet u can't touch ground vehicles

[hybrid totem]

I found a trick to getting people to soflam

do it yourself

Soon others will start to copy you and you can stop

[spiral folio]

yea use the soflam

redeploy

then fire the rocket

redeploy

re-soflam it again cause flares

redeploy

and use another rocket

so easy

[hybrid totem]

Not sure why you're being sarcastic - players copying tactics is a real phenomenon

[verbal barn]

Does your level reset every season or?

[sharp marten]

No

[chilly dove]

Soflam helps every M5 and every weapon with lock capability right?

in previous games it gave javelin top attack (i know we don't have it yet), and i think it extended the range of all locked weapons, as well as caused them have a higher chance of bypassing chaff and flares if i recall correctly

[sharp marten]

Yes

[hybrid totem]

it gives locked on missiles from ground vehicles a small vertical boost

Nothing like the bf4 vertical javelin shot

Also it does increase range

[sharp marten]

Funny rocket lady go boom

[wild marlin]

prox sensor for recon grenade slot please 🥺🥺👉😭

[wild marlin]

ong

and it helps rocket pods lock

[chilly dove]

I've been using mostly soflam on sundance for a very long time now

[vapid sparrow]

I can see they still have not fixed the ryzen cpu issues

[wild marlin]

damn that's gonna get taken away from you

[wild marlin]

wdym

[chilly dove]

great.....................

[kindred flint]

time to hang up your wingsuit and use a parachute like the rest of us

[wild marlin]

it's chill tho, now you can simply fly at loitering vehicles and blow them up 😀

[chilly dove]

that's too mainstream. I'm an individual lol

[wild marlin]

damn hes underground 😭

[chilly dove]

i would prefer the game to remain as is where you can create unique classes via specialists and gear of choosing. I hope it remains an option in portal

[sudden pine]

Podcast Channel?

[wild marlin]

nah fam, class system is gonna be there too

[chilly dove]

well it was fun while it lasted I guess

[wild marlin]

maybe change is good tho

[chilly dove]

I see no reason to restrict having it be a portal option there

[wild marlin]

have fun, swap it up

[chilly dove]

?

[wild marlin]

play Crawford for once

[ebon pilot]

hell nah

anyone but crawford

[chilly dove]

you're assuming I never play other specialists

[wild marlin]

yeah that's the vibe I'm getting

[chilly dove]

well your vibe is 100% off

and my point stands even though I play other specialists too

[wild marlin]

ur gonna see more of him next patch lol

[ebon pilot]

i mean that's fine if other people play him, i'm not going to though

[wild marlin]

I hate his fucking proficiency tho

so cringe

but his passive is gonna rock

and you're gonna be the only guy with a javelin lol

[chilly dove]

here i'll make it simple: If I play a random specialist and I can't do a specific combination of specialist + gear and the reason is due to the class system, then my problem is with the class system. If I can't do that specialist gear combo restricted by the class system even in a custom portal experience, then the problem is that the developers sought to restrict freedom of play even in custom portal experiences. It's about restriction of specialist / gear combo via class system implementation, not which specialists I choose to play.

[formal rain]

is update 3.2 still dropping today?

[wild marlin]

it's supposed to be dropping end of jan

[ebon pilot]

no not today

[wild marlin]

ok but don't you think, that a Mackay with a sniper rifle, and a spawn beacon, is cringe

[ebon pilot]

no

[chilly dove]

nope

[ebon pilot]

i have funny grapple hook, i'm gonna use it to get funny places

[arctic grove]

Can someone help me? I'm playing on 1920x1080p and I have black bars and the screen is very small

[wild marlin]

but then you place a spawn beacon for other specialists to get there who have no reason being there

[chilly dove]

me sundance, me grab DMR and tree squirrel to new vantage points + soflam to spot / scare away big game

[ebon pilot]

isn't that how recons normally use the beacons anyway???

like, mackay isn't really the problem there

[wild marlin]

no because recons don't have grappling hooks that let them access off limits areas

or did I miss an update that changed that

[ebon pilot]

recons go to high places and put down funny beacons so they can get back there all the time even though it doesn't make sense for the rest of the squad, the grapple hook makes that slightly easier

[wild marlin]

or maybe a cheeky spawn beacon that causes a constant cockroach problem

[wild marlin]

except if a recon got there, literally everyone else can

[ebon pilot]

helicopters and air vehicles exist

[chilly dove]

I said hours ago, what's weird is the fact that most of you all ignore that this franchise has a core element of spawn abuse lol. The spawn abuse system inherently adds so many problems to this game which then confuse the developers

[wild marlin]

uh yeah lmao that's how they got there

[chilly dove]

you can't even call it a problem because it's pretty much a gameplay design choice at this point.

[velvet sail]

funny event tbh

[wild marlin]

utility proficiency for engineer thanks 🙏

[chilly dove]

The insertion beacon made a little bit of sense with a para entry. As it stands now, spawn beacon is just a 5th squad mate that can't shoot that you can buddy spawn on.

spawn on squad mate is the real dark magic

[sharp marten]

It was the wrong date

[hybrid totem]

I enjoyed the challenge of finding a good spawn beacon point that would spawn you on the ground in bf4

[wild marlin]

damn bro, he crashed his jet

[hybrid totem]

Plus you could abuse it to get to the places mackay and sundance go. That may be why it can't cause a parachute spawn

[chilly dove]

that was a thing? I thought all spawn beacons were para entry in BF4

[hybrid totem]

If you had something inside or like under a cliff, you'd spawn on the ground

Both have advantages, I just like the option

[chilly dove]

oh right yeah...

that was the same way in BF3

[wild marlin]

the buffed MCS kinda busted

[chilly dove]

atleast on certain maps i think

i think metro forced spawning without para

[wild marlin]

#1 buckshot at 20m and below with a good center mass shot is a death sentence

[distant umbra]

Hey guys, I just bought the game on steam and I have been trying to launch it for hours now. I've tried every solution I can find online, and even the EA support people don't know what the issue is but I keep getting an error saying "You don't have access" Has anyone else experienced this?

[chilly dove]

did you try installing everything software and game related, including the game, with administrator privileges?

[scenic badger]

its certainly stronger than it was pre-nerf. the pellet buff was probably not warranted. all it really did was make the 12M better...

[distant umbra]

Yep 🥲 Coming here is my absolute last resort

[wild marlin]

huh, u mean they applied the pellet buff to 12M?

[chilly dove]

Windows 11? EA App installed on its own?

[wild marlin]

kinda cringe ngl

[distant umbra]

Windows 10 and yes

[scenic badger]

pellet buff applied to all shotguns. so all of a sudden the 12M could one shot when it never could prior

[chilly dove]

Nvidia card or AMD card?

[distant umbra]

Nvidia

[lavish patrol]

So they literally didn't update that? Hell of an oversight.

[chilly dove]

GeForce experience running? you'll want to disable it... or atleast in settings, make sure it does nothing to the game before or during launch

[wild marlin]

just read the patch, it's exclusively buffing the 880

[scenic badger]

well aware. the pellet buff was multiple patches back

literally just made the MCS worse

[lavish patrol]

I meant when 3.2 update drops. Their news said it was coming today.

[wild marlin]

I don't think an almost double damage increase would make a gun worse

[scenic badger]

it did. only one ammo type was worth using, everything else was awful, one shot potential was basically gone

trust me, i was in the middle of T1'ing it when the nerf occured

its back to its old glory tho

[lavish patrol]

Well I guess I'll just wait for the update

[wild marlin]

basically how it works now is, 20m and under use #01

anything more use anything else

[scenic badger]

Strayed, the 3.2 patch was for Jan 20 2022. Hilariously the patch note versions coincide awkwardly for Jan 20 2023 for 3.1.2

[lavish patrol]

Ah my bad

[scenic badger]

i made the same mistake and started a hubub yesterday lol

[lavish patrol]

They're really bad at putting dates as to when the update comes

[final tendon]

i did the same lads dw lol

[wild marlin]

javelin pls be good 🥺🥺

[scenic badger]

thankfully yes, just use #01 again. the only good benefit of the pellet update was that it actually made #04 shot significantly better, or maybe it was #00, anyway, one of them was totally useless prior, and I ended up mostly using it instead to finish the T1

[wild marlin]

I wonder how the javelin will compare

to the m5

[chilly dove]

I can't see how there can be a balance issue with specialists when everyone has access to the same stuff as the other team (except for some vehicles like Su-57 vs F-35 [also bring back 2 jets per team in conquest])

[wild marlin]

add naval gameplay

[chilly dove]

"This means that if there’s a scenario where everyone can use a Rocket Launcher, we have to ensure that things are appropriately balanced for that type of situation." Didn't stop me and the mates from all going engineer in our squads conquest BF3 (and 4). I feel like that's a bad example. Freedom of weapon and gadget choice just makes sense and worked so well in this game, and teamwork and balancing still existed with it. Salty Billies don't know what they were complaining about when it came to specialists. They died, blamed whatever they could and the devs listened.

[eager spire]

i mean, if you were doing that in BF3 and BF4, people could easily identify that and be like "oh shit there are a lot of engineers over there, I should probably deal with that, make that my priority" as a vehicle player.

You couldn't really do that with how things worked prior, because how could you possibly be able to tell if some Boris player has an M5 or not

I think you just don't understand what the problem was.

[chilly dove]

nah

[chilly dove]

this was just never a problem for me. All infantry had access to all gadgets? then all infantry are a threat. Can't just "ignore" people entirely because you never know what they got. that was my solution. Vehicle players who know what they're doing would agree with their scores showing how easily they farm infantry anyway lmao

like people making up issues that are actually solvable by a few tactical adaptations in play in the current game or prior versions

[eager spire]

any vehicle player who knows what they're doing would also know target prioritization, which means that this shouldn't really effect anything anyway.

[chilly dove]

"this" ?

[sharp marten]

Correct

[eager spire]

The change to classes. I guess this was written poorly. It's generally a positive change for the game from a readability standpoint.

[sharp marten]

It wasn’t their fault that date was for S1 and that person who put the article on this chat grabbed the wrong article

[idle lion]

i t1d my m5 yesterday finally

[chilly dove]

ok well that's pretty much a direct quote from what i'm reading on the dev notes page lol... but honestly, readability may be somewhat improved because people might be able to make out that they see an engineer over a recon but vehicles imo don't need any buffs anyway so I just don't see the point. (ok sure, turn speed for turrets on some vehicles, but i mean pretty much everything else can be nerfed imo #farmingsimulator2042 ) So I'll always refer to the prior reasoning to make a point against people who state readability for vehicles. All infantry are a threat, act with caution, don't underestimate them would be my preferred response to people complaining about dying to a specific specialist with explosives or w/e

[errant scarab]

can i use reshade preset?

[eager spire]

I'm gonna disagree with the comment that vehicles don't need any buffs, especially considering that unless you're in a helicopter, this game is probably the worst in terms of infantry/vehicle combat balance. Most of the tanks don't even have APS, and they haven't had that for over a year now. And also you've gotta consider that Lis exists and she can hit tanks from behind cover very easily.

Don't get me wrong, I don't think the vehicles need any direct buffs, but I do feel like the playing field does need to be levelled a bit considering it seems to be in favor of the infantry at this point.

[spiral folio]

I think vehicle abusers need to suffer a little

-bow-
-bow other side-

[eager spire]

if i said that about things like shotgun users then you'd have a fucking fit

[spiral folio]

Eh who cares about shotguns at my ranges

If i had my Trex id be 2 maps away

[eager spire]

like, if you don't like vehicle players then just don't play any modes that have vehicles in it. it's just that simple.

i do that all the time.

[spiral folio]

There are 0

[eager spire]

then there should be some.

[wild marlin]

vehicle players only succeed when they're ignored

[spiral folio]

Once they screwed stranded

[chilly dove]

see you say this is bad, but when i say farmingsimulator2042, I reall should be saying farmingsimulator3, farmingsimulator4 even more so. The fact that the devs have made a game which gives infantry more strength is such a welcome refresh. again, vehicles are ridiculously OP in this franchise. even if vehicles AND infantry recover HP automatically, the fact that vehicles have infinite ammo for everything at their disposal, infinite flares / countermeasures and stuff like that, to me is actually ridiculous and far more of a problem than lis being able to steer a missile at an enemy tank.

[spiral folio]

Tooooooooooooo

Lonnnnnnnmnnng

[chilly dove]

skill issue. stay in school

[spiral folio]

Parse

[chilly dove]

blocking real soon

[arctic grove]

i see your still trolling

[edgy oriole]

they should make it where vehicles have to go back and re supply

[eager spire]

making vehicles strong does seem like an intentional design choice. you know, to motivate that "teamplay" that people like and want in the game so much, y'know?

[chilly dove]

i responded to your bs accusation yesterday. putting words in my mouth. I thought you blocked me. leave me alone

[wild marlin]

bruh throw an ammo crate on it

[spiral folio]

Further more due to the length of the post the post you made within the chat the length of which made me further question whether or not I would even begin to look through the symbology you wrote and even determine if any of it was english let alone process the wording into meaning

[eager spire]

like do you want team play or do you want weak vehicles. You can't have both.

[wild marlin]

^

[arctic grove]

hes a troll block and move on lol

[edgy oriole]

that would be a cool specialist to give it a few extra rounds before it has to go back.

[wild marlin]

vehicles are an issue because no team play

[chilly dove]

nods

[spiral folio]

I was thinking the longest way to say TLDR

[arctic grove]

eh

[spiral folio]

Ye

[arctic grove]

idk its what ev

[spiral folio]

M 2

[arctic grove]

honestly the debaits in here get really heated when its just a difference in opinion, to bad no one values another opinions in here that much 😦

[spiral folio]

Well my thought is keep an argument simple and to the point

[chilly dove]

Znath, Ren is mad at me because they assumed I'm anti-disability from a comment I made about console auto aim yesterday. it was a stretch on their part and they hate me for it. that's all this is.

[arctic grove]

[spiral folio]

No need to go on too long

[edgy oriole]

[arctic grove]

[chilly dove]

@spiral folio if you don't like how long my messages are, that's purely a troll angle on your part lol

[spiral folio]

No

Parse

Consolidate

[eager spire]

i mean i can read all of what you're saying. It's just that all of it is stupid.

[spiral folio]

Be more direct

[arctic grove]

This is fun

[chilly dove]

@spiral folio paragraphs must give you PTSD, i'm sorry to hear that

back on topic lol

[spiral folio]

They dont. I dont even read em

[arctic grove]

its like "ima hit you with a walltext" SMACK

[spiral folio]

Yep

[zenith void]

i upgraded my ram just to play 2042

it was 100% worth it

this is really fun

[spiral folio]

Covers my whole screen means skip

[chilly dove]

you guys rofl

[arctic grove]

There was a guy in the steam forums that had a wall text and it was at least a paragraph but rolled into one sentence

[chilly dove]

"nooo, text hurt" such a battlefield gamer moment

[eager spire]

it wasn't even the whole screen, it was like 5 lines of text. it was all very stupid.

[spiral folio]

Yea if you got a thesis to say. Put it on a forum