#battlefield-2042

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solar obsidian
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i gotten more teamwork in voice by the enemy in dmz, compared to my own team in this game

tacit sorrel
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Cod?

solar obsidian
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yes

tacit sorrel
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You can actually add enemy groups into your party but never done it

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Dmz just seems pointless I lost interest

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It’s very shallow with no economy

next onyx
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Eh.

tacit sorrel
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Dead game 😔

royal swan
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Game dead goblinwtf

tacit sorrel
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I actually enjoyed it

royal swan
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Ok, but game dead goblinwtf

tacit sorrel
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The eu lobby playing the same map 24/7 is still probably up leo

royal swan
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But who's playing it

tacit sorrel
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Whoever is in that lobby leo

hybrid totem
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I really wanted battlebit to be good, but the tanks are bugged and the devs ignore bug reports on it

royal swan
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Why don't you go check

tacit sorrel
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I uninstalled but wouldn’t be surprised if it’s still there

hybrid totem
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And they removed the roadmap. Never a good sign

royal swan
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Sounds like the game is

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Dead BadCompany

tacit sorrel
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I can only play the same map so many times

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I enjoyed it when it was active

royal swan
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*alive

tacit sorrel
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Also the ping isn’t the best me US east and the 1-2 servers being EU

solar obsidian
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WoahTea nothing like morning arguments

royal swan
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Mr future over here, why didn't you warn us about (over used American tragedy)

hexed mango
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yeah eh first mission was mid

tacit sorrel
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I never finished hardline campaign

hexed mango
hexed mango
tacit sorrel
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Probably the only bf campaign I didn’t complete

royal swan
hexed mango
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ive yet to play bf3 campaign

solar obsidian
hexed mango
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ok

solar obsidian
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you remember the meme game demo about modern military shooter ?

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thats bf3

hexed mango
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wish more peeps played hz so i could actually finish the fucking acheivements

tacit sorrel
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They didn’t learn from firestorm

hexed mango
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heheheh

solar obsidian
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60 euro entry price

tacit sorrel
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Hz was doomed to fail

hexed mango
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operation firestorm that is

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not

solar obsidian
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i loved the interaction of everything in bf5

hexed mango
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like bfv firestorm

solar obsidian
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game ran like as for me

royal swan
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I need achievement

solar obsidian
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but damn firestorm should have been free

hexed mango
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idk for some reason bfv just never hit me

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idk what it was...

vague horizon
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When does the 3.2 update drop again

tacit sorrel
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The inventory was garbage other than that it was alright

hexed mango
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when i went back to it a few months ago i was still feeling like it just wasnt quite right

hexed mango
tacit sorrel
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The fire ring was cool

hexed mango
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all we can say is that it'll for sure drop before Jan 31st

tacit sorrel
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Wasn’t free and wz was just a better br killed it

vague horizon
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Ah bet thanks

hexed mango
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Firestorm was flawed

tacit sorrel
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Bfv was flawed in general

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For awhile

copper fulcrum
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Still is, really

tacit sorrel
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I get annoyed by that game would rather play bf1

solar obsidian
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WoahTea play bf1 then

tacit sorrel
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I do

copper fulcrum
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and 1 has problems too

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I actually went back to try a round of Operations and the game broke first spawn in

tacit sorrel
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Now and then the game can bug out

solar obsidian
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bf1 share design choices like mario kart,

i actually never though a shooter like this would get comeback mechanics

copper fulcrum
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Spawned in, says we're advancing, shows the flags on the map, hud's now gone, so is the sound. I die by someone I couldn't see because a giant flag was blocking most of my vision.

Could not respawn again and had to leave

hexed mango
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no game is perfect

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i liked bf1 a lot, but there are def some things i would rather have changed.

tacit sorrel
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Bf1 atmosphere still remains the best

eager spire
hexed mango
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indeed.

copper fulcrum
eager spire
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oh well small indie devs

copper fulcrum
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You know when the attacking team fails an advance in Operations and it shows who controls the sectors?

eager spire
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no

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i don't play operations

copper fulcrum
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Okay so like this

tacit sorrel
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Conquest player for life

copper fulcrum
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Now imagine spawned while that is showing

hexed mango
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like you're on the map?

white geyser
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BF1 good times

copper fulcrum
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Your camera is still your soldier like regular but those flags are still there

hexed mango
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lol

eager spire
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how does that happen

tacit sorrel
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Bug

solar obsidian
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WoahTea i wonder how high resolution i can run it at 60fps

copper fulcrum
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Can't respawn with that bug either

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What's cool is that it shows that the lines and flags are actually on the map, not an overlay

next onyx
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M1D go yes.

tacit sorrel
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Did you restart the game?

copper fulcrum
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Way can you like

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no

eager spire
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it's not really a surprise that things are broken in BF1

copper fulcrum
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I uninstalled the game again lol

eager spire
copper fulcrum
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Honestly I prefer BF4 over BF1, and I prefer 2042 over all

white geyser
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The behemoths they added in BF1 were fun to use, the zeppelin I like dropping bombs on the enemies, the dreadnought firing cannons better watch out where will it hit you

next onyx
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Not really.

copper fulcrum
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There's two scopes btw

eager spire
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so both of them

next onyx
copper fulcrum
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Maybe you're off-center

eager spire
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...no

solar obsidian
tacit sorrel
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Only gripe with ww2 portal is ammo

copper fulcrum
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Casually one-handing the Panzerschreck

solar obsidian
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its a t-1000

copper fulcrum
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At least the shield is off so it weighs less

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I imagine a good portion of the weight of the Panzerschreck comes from the blast shield

eager spire
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crosshair is center of screen.

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What the fuck is that

copper fulcrum
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I haven't had that problem really

tacit sorrel
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New vault weapon confirmed leo

eager spire
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you haven't had it or you haven't noticed it

copper fulcrum
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I use the Nydar sights too and I get dead on shots with the dot

solar obsidian
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dice moment

tacit sorrel
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It looks just like the bfv sight

eager spire
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yes

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it's almost like it's based on the same kind of sight or something

tacit sorrel
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Is that the tommy gun?

eager spire
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yes

tacit sorrel
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I thought you could only use irons

eager spire
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they added the sights in the newest update along with the new weapons

tacit sorrel
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Ah ic

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That’s nice because those irons sucked

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So much recoil

placid echo
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I did play some Portal earlier, found a BF3 1-shot conquest mode, it was fun for a bit but not many people were on because it was about 1AM in US

eager spire
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because that's the limit of creativity for most of the BF community

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just make the game so easy you can shut your brain off and still get kills

tacit sorrel
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I played a bf1 lobby that had infinite grenades it was pretty wild leo

placid echo
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I can't wait for the upcoming featured modes tho

eager spire
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but then again neither was your teammate

solar obsidian
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WoahTea instagib unreal tournament deck 17

eager spire
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and nobody would play that because people would take more than one shot to kill

solar obsidian
eager spire
solar obsidian
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yeah

eager spire
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honestly it would be funny if the next BF game is just a large arena shooter

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with 64 people in it

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no vehicles, your only mobility is sprinting or bunnyhopping

tacit sorrel
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Medal of honor

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Those games were pretty fun tbh

eager spire
arctic grove
eager spire
eager spire
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It would certainly be unique

eager spire
tacit sorrel
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I think so

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Been awhile

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It was basically their spin on cod pretty much

solar obsidian
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medal of honor came first kek

eager spire
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also i think MoH 2010 and Warfighter are getting shut offline next month

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which sucks because Warfighter seemed like a cool game but now nobody will get to play it

solar obsidian
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quake engine and bhop ❤️

tacit sorrel
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I’m talking the last 2 moh old ones are old as dirt

pine roost
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Bf4 movement is probably as close as we’ve gotten to an arena style bf

solar obsidian
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last 2 was under average and tried to do 99% of the same stuff cod and battlefield had going on at the time

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they where dead on arrival

tacit sorrel
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I had fun

solar obsidian
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sure

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not arguing about the fun factor

eager spire
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I donno, Warfighter was pretty ahead of it's time in some aspects, mainly the weapon customization

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the 2 man squad idea was pretty interesting

tacit sorrel
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Also had the buddy system

eager spire
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yes that's what i meant by the 2 man squad system

tacit sorrel
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Yea replied late

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You could grab ammo from them

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Or spawn

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Good fun games for the time

eager spire
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yeah and it's getting taken offline next month

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i donno how because i thought that was running on Battlelog and people were running their own servers for it

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¯_(ツ)_/¯

tacit sorrel
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Pretty old

solar obsidian
eager spire
solar obsidian
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most big publishers are only interested in you playing the newest games anyways,

eager spire
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i mean Warfighter is literally the newest MoH game

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they haven't made a new one

tacit sorrel
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Can’t imagine there’s many players left

eager spire
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i'm not counting the VR one

ebon pilot
solar obsidian
ebon pilot
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i still haven't finished it

eager spire
solar obsidian
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beside that vr game, the whole franchise been on hold ever since

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the game even by critics where not happy with that game

next onyx
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LOL shelled an almost fully loaded bomber with their own tank.

tacit sorrel
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Black ops 2 happened

solar obsidian
eager spire
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but yeah i think it would be funny if the next BF game was just a 64 player arena shooter

hexed mango
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my internet is cutting out… lovely

solar obsidian
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damn

eager spire
solar obsidian
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WoahTea just play quake 1 instead

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quake 2 rtx

hexed mango
tacit sorrel
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Battlefield could really capitalize with cod falling off atm

hexed mango
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i sent that message 6 hours ago

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it just sent through now

solar obsidian
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long time

hexed mango
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yeah cause when i sent it, discord was down, i just opened discord on my phone… so i guess it resent it

solar obsidian
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i see

hexed mango
eager spire
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and this is someone who's been around for a very long time

solar obsidian
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some quit, newer players comes to take the spotlight

tacit sorrel
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If they have a bad season 2 it’s going to be a rough 3 months

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Depends on the content

eager spire
solar obsidian
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we are getting ranked matches in under 30 days

eager spire
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yeah, but that's a bit redundant if they're not gonna adjust SBMM in casual matches.

solar obsidian
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i never cared if a game had sbmm or not in the casual matchmaking anyways

tacit sorrel
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It will be half baked never had any incentive to play ranked

solar obsidian
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players are overthinking sbmm,

at least there is a decent even skill level in most matches,
and again, casual or ranked for that matter, there will be matches where you just get stomped

eager spire
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It is a system that does not need to be in casual playlists.

solar obsidian
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its not uncommon for games to have it

tacit sorrel
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It’s more manipulative than even skill

solar obsidian
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no

eager spire
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and it's not uncommon for it to be annoying.

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my statement still stands.

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It does not need to be in casual playlists.

solar obsidian
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see how well battlefield are echoing in here with all the trash teams they match with

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thats the world without sbmm, in the most casual shooter on the marked right now

tacit sorrel
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The matches are predetermined

eager spire
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SBMM systems with 64/128 players are not viable. To try would be actively detrimental.

solar obsidian
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this was even talked about in mw19 and cold war,

and yet mw2 still keep attracting players beside these "issues"

tacit sorrel
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Because it’s called mw2

solar obsidian
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but battlefield have never been a game that tried that

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battlefield was a successful franchise until they start shitting out delayed content and poorly balanced and optimised games with bf5 and 2042

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the latter being so barebone at launch it was funny taking 60 euro for it

eager spire
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"building"

solar obsidian
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mw 19 had cold war, and that average vanguard released between

eager spire
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MW19 was the best that modern CoD got. And even then it still had blatant issues.

tacit sorrel
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Also og mw2 was a lot of ppl favorite cod

solar obsidian
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but instead of starting on scratch each and every yeah in warzone, they just starting added bulk and more content and events all the time

eager spire
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MW2 just looked at that and decided "y'know what, we wanna be a tactical shooter now"

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It would've been so easy for them to fix the issues MW19 had though

solar obsidian
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all games have some issues, or something some players dont like,

but player numbers and sheer sales just dont lie

eager spire
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like, it would not be hard

solar obsidian
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how long have we waited for more portal maps to release in here?

hexed mango
solar obsidian
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all the time

hexed mango
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yeah yeah yeah “steam charts” and what not but they have 70k rn on steam alone. 100k+ peak.

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#11 most played game rn on steam

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just saying. that’s impressive nonetheless that people are getting bored, which is indeed the case

solar obsidian
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no

hexed mango
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no

solar obsidian
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same client

hexed mango
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hence why it’s so high

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but i mean 2042 has literally less than 1% of that

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0.7% if you want to be exact

eager spire
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Like, it's so easy that it's insulting that they didn't do that. They thought that instead of doing things like limiting shotgun use with the Overkill perk, making smaller maps for 6v6, removing High Alert from the game, it was a better idea to just remove things that people liked, like bhopping, Specialist, and slide cancelling, and replace it with a weird ass perk system that doesn't give you all your perks immediately, a ledge hang system, and water. They thought putting all that effort into doing all that was a better idea than just tweaking the less good parts of MW19.

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It's ridiculous. It's insulting.

hexed mango
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so my point is, mw2 is 99.3% more successful than 2042 ;)

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which is inherently a low bar

eager spire
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yeah but that's more of a statement about how dire the situation for FPS games is right now.

solar obsidian
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it still have voice chat, all chat,
even all proxy voice with ALL in warzone and dmz lol

hexed mango
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and it seems 2042 lost the desire

solar obsidian
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fps genre is fine, its battlefield and halo that are lacking behind,

eager spire
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no

hexed mango
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the dire situation, and mw2 being there still shows that it’s the more successful game.

eager spire
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everyone is lacking.

hexed mango
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by fact, it is more successful.

eager spire
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Some are just lacking less than others and people are just taking whatever at this point, there are no standards.

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Having standards in the current market is seen as a waste of time.

hexed mango
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about a year longer

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and i don’t think dying in less than a year is a good sign at all lmao

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i mean we’ll see where mw2 is by november

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but regardless in its first what 3 months of existence it has done better than 2042s first 3 months

stray python
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Even battlefield 2042 apart from traversal sprinting is slower than every battlefield before it, jumping/crouching/proning is slow as hell , and you can't strafe and aim mid jump

next onyx
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The actual soldier speed is as fast as a bf3 / bf4 soldier.

hexed mango
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this time last year 2042 had 8k players.

next onyx
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But the maps kind of don't work for it.

idle lion
stray python
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Running traversal, that's it

eager spire
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because i don't think you do

hexed mango
solar obsidian
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bf2042 did not even hit 50k players on steam in the free weekend, ONE MONTH after release

hexed mango
next onyx
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SMK did a test comparing previous soldier speeds.

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2042 is in line with Bf3's and 4's, The difference is the pacing.

eager spire
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because the maps are much larger

hexed mango
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BRField 2042

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the world needs to move on from battle royale. yall ain’t gonna be fortnite 😇

stray python
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Running speed means 0, you don't run in a gunfight

hexed mango
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i do

crimson basin
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Animations, sliding all effect how fast the game feels

solar obsidian
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two months after release did it break under 10k players

eager spire
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you're not running mid-fight though, you're ADSing. which means you're not running. @hexed mango

stray python
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The aiming and moving/jumping/crouching etc feels so bad

eager spire
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no you're not, you can't

hexed mango
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in fact i fly while aiming

eager spire
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you can't run and ADS

hexed mango
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in fact i actually parachute while in gunfights on the ground

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in fact. i actually go into third person

eager spire
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ok

solar obsidian
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third person ❤️

hexed mango
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BF HEROES WHERE YOU AT

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BEEN AWFULLY QUITE SINCE 2042

stray python
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Dice pls release hardline free to play and add some skins to guns to buy yeshoney

hexed mango
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quite wtf

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quiet *

solar obsidian
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wait

hexed mango
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i am waiting

eager spire
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DICE should run official servers for Hardline.

hexed mango
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after playing BFH today i see why people didn’t like it

stray python
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They still sell the game full price with no servers lol

solar obsidian
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i dont own hardline ❤️

hexed mango
eager spire
solar obsidian
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game pass

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ea play is included

crimson basin
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Hardline visual design was really good like that museum and bank maps

eager spire
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Hardline is not a bad game.

hexed mango
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campaign plays so wonky tho

solar obsidian
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the campaign was everything wrong with the modern shooters

eager spire
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I have no comments about the campaign because I'm on PC and the locked FOV annoys me

hexed mango
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i mean it literally just plays as if it’s trying too hard to be a tv show… and the graphics

stray python
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You don't own your EA games , you can get banned for toxic in game chat in 1 game and have your entire account banned with all your games lol

eager spire
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yeah that sounds like a skill issue just don't be toxic in chat

eager spire
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it's not that hard

hexed mango
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i got through the first mission and alt f4’d

eager spire
vocal zenith
solar obsidian
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imagine missing out on a fov slider,
the most basic feature

hexed mango
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BC2 did the same

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granted that’s from like

eager spire
hexed mango
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2012 or smth

solar obsidian
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im so happy i can play without it ❤️

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i prefer 90 dont get me wrong

eager spire
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though at least with BF4 you can use Flawless Widescreen to fix it

solar obsidian
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but it dont negative affect me not having it

hexed mango
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BFH is default to ducking 75

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WHY IS IT 75

eager spire
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it fucks up some animations and breaks magnified scopes but

solar obsidian
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and thats even higher than the console where running back then

hexed mango
stray python
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Bf4 ultra looks similar to 2042 yet you get double the fps, what a time to be alive

hexed mango
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i need my mackay beard

vocal zenith
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honestly i think the subscription model might do good in the gaming industry since it might make people try non AAA games made by indie devs

hexed mango
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if i don’t get the fucking beard i will blow up spontaneously

tame cobalt
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Putting classes in 2042 is a mistake

eager spire
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i mean i do that anyway, i generally just buy them

hexed mango
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🤓

next onyx
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Would rather consistency.

tame cobalt
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gadget freedom allows people to fulfill team roles while enjoying the game the way they like it

vocal zenith
next onyx
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By the way. The 1942 mode is genuinely refreshing.

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Worth a play.

stray python
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Gametime.mavvariablefps ~ console command helped reduce input lag too by capping fps in engine, but..... They removed it. Sick

hexed mango
next onyx
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The M1D, Sten and BAR is fun.

signal basin
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I low-key miss my laptop, I'm kinda craving a match of 2042

next onyx
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You can cap in game can't you.

hexed mango
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just build a laptop into your head

vocal zenith
hexed mango
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too ez

tame cobalt
vocal zenith
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or everyone is a mackay or sundance

next onyx
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Laptop forehead.

signal basin
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Ah yes, why didn't I think of that.

solar obsidian
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just use riva tuner like all the rest of us oldies

eager spire
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That is fucking stupid.

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I hate that concept.

signal basin
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I'm at my GFs I can't. I should of brought it with me.

hexed mango
stray python
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Rivatuner adds input lag

signal basin
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I want my rooty shooty tooty

next onyx
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I just cap my frames through my driver.

hexed mango
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like, recon, more fine tuned to use soflam or tracker, and engineer (boris and craw specifically) being focused on the launchers

vocal zenith
solar obsidian
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hitting 100% gpu usage adds more inputlag, pick your poison

hexed mango
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soflam + launchers = boom

solar obsidian
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rtss ads one frame in ms of inputlag

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thats only 16.6ms at 60hz

next onyx
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100% usage in either CPU and GPU is the issue.

stray python
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Driver is not as smooth as less input lag as in game cap

hexed mango
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support being able to focus on healing and resupplying = boom

vocal zenith
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for example i wouldnt have returned to bf 2042 if not for the fact that it is free from game pass

next onyx
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That's what mostly causes it.

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Driver good yes.

hexed mango
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and assault assaulting a federal officer

eager spire
solar obsidian
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never had issues with battlefield and rivatuner

next onyx
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Seriously though it's a fucking pain to go into game settings and cap the frames when frames is tied to game speed.

eager spire
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It's one of the prime things i fucking hate about Netflix.

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I wouldn't ever pay for that fucking trashcan service.

solar obsidian
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then dont ?

hexed mango
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however, Ratchet, my one complaint is that there are only 2 specialists in the entire game that can use any of the launchers outside of Lis’ tgm

tame cobalt
eager spire
hexed mango
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both of whom suck ass and balls.

however they are getting reworked

stray python
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Who wants to run soflam and m5s with a squad all game just to take out a vehicle that respawns 20 secs later

hexed mango
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anyways it’s time for me to take part in my daily ritual of sitting in bed to contemplate life, cry, and finally sleep.

eager spire
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oh also speaking of bad ideas, Stadia's officially dead

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rip bozo

solar obsidian
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if they are too pricey wait for a sale,

they are happening like max 60 days between each other these days

tame cobalt
hexed mango
vocal zenith
# eager spire It's one of the prime things i fucking hate about Netflix.

think of it like this right say i have 30 bucks to spent every month on games if i want to buy a game it will cost 20 ish for an indie tittle and 60 or even 70 now for AAA from the bigger studios which mean i can only buy a big game every few months and maybe 1 indie game every month. but if i have a subscription with hundreds of games i get to play all that and if i really like it i can buy it afterwards or whenever it leaves game pass. thats the way i see it because as much as you can watch gameplay from youtube u dont really know if u like a game untill u actually play it for urself

next onyx
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Lis will rocket yes. Boris will annoy vehicles with his turret (Presumably) and Crawford will do Crawford things.

stray python
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Like those medics who revive everyone, yay your team won, but you didn't shoot your gun

hexed mango
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i should probably find the specific game lol

next onyx
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Keeping your team healthy goes a long way.

hexed mango
next onyx
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You don't have to exclusively shoot people.

stray python
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Might as well not be playing a first person shooter

eager spire
next onyx
#

Stupid in game audio didn't record so you couldn't hear my friends reaction.

hexed mango
solar obsidian
next onyx
#

CUNT WAS SLANDERING MY M1911.

solar obsidian
#

under 2 hours, you just say you did not like it

next onyx
#

You cannot slander my 45 Acp!

tame cobalt
#

shooting people < creating a necromantic army to shoot for you

hexed mango
#

OI MAte BLOODY FUCKING HELL YEAH? Did ya Hear The fucking SLANDER about that laddie’s M1911

vocal zenith
solar obsidian
eager spire
#

do you buy 10/20 games at a time tho

solar obsidian
#

it takes less times than installing them

hexed mango
#

idk how aussie slang works but ya

eager spire
#

is that honestly something you do

hexed mango
#

Again, when we getting an aussie specialist.

next onyx
#

Would be nice.

hexed mango
#

i expect a roo outfit immediately

eager spire
#

also, refunding is relatively easy but it takes ages for the money you get from refunds to actually be usable

next onyx
#

So you're expecting a fursuit.

hexed mango
#

wowowow

tame cobalt
#

Aussie specialist can summon drop bears on the battlefield

hexed mango
#

don’t take it that far

vocal zenith
hexed mango
#

🦘

next onyx
#

Roo outfit.
That's literally what it is.

solar obsidian
hexed mango
#

ok good night everyone i’ll be wearing my roo outfit to sleep

next onyx
#

Night!

vocal zenith
solar obsidian
#

and if the 30 euro temporary hold is a deal breaker,
i dont even know what to say anymore

minor ferry
#

I have a question for you guys
which do you guys prefer when the class system is reintroduced
1: reroll the medic/ammo crate back to how it works in BFV that you get health and ammo constantly as long as you re in its range
or
2:it stays how it works right now, that you get resupplied on a cooldown basis

vocal zenith
#

it is something ive been doing ever since i got gigabit internet since downloading games takes minutes with fast download speed lol

solar obsidian
minor ferry
#

this is kinda unrelated to what I asked?

vocal zenith
solar obsidian
#

yeees

minor ferry
#

not angel airdrop thing

solar obsidian
#

put it on the robodog

#

they need to do more with that though, actually hate how useless it is now

#

zero utility and it just starts to shoot random planes out of nowhere

minor ferry
#

It just feels insecure in 2042 when I stand in someone's medic crate

solar obsidian
#

BOOM

vocal zenith
#

ive actually gotten a surpring amount of kills with the robodog

#

especially in duels when i lose the robodog typically finishes them off lol

vocal zenith
#

its always satisfying seeing the person that down u die alongside u lol

eager spire
#

yup because you just can't lose a fight

vocal zenith
#

well with 2042 and 128 players its almost like ur destined to die lol with how many players are on the battlefield

#

i think of robo dog as my non-existant teamate that never leaves me

eager spire
#

"oh well i lost a fight but that doesn't matter because i have a robot dog following me around who's gonna make up for my lack of ability to kill this one person!"

vocal zenith
#

should have called in the robo dog

#

same like if i see an enemy and we started fighting each other but i have the latv 4 with 30mm explosive cannon then u can tell who is gonna win

signal basin
#

They're bringing classes back? I wonder if the specialists will become just cosmetic like in Cod with the operators.

solar obsidian
signal basin
#

Oh shit.

#

That's not gonna be unbalanced at all.

solar obsidian
#

yes, like the game have always been 🙂

signal basin
#

Sarcasm

solar obsidian
#

it truly is the battlefield way

vocal zenith
#

nah it just means now recon can't run with an ammo crate and snipe on a tower somewhere with unlimited ammo, if u wana do that u gonna have to (dare i say it) work together with someone lol

solar obsidian
#

they lock ALL sniper and marksman rifles away from angel ?

vocal zenith
#

so recon can run assult and assult can run snipers

#

which is a good thing thank god

solar obsidian
#

angel does it again

eager spire
solar obsidian
#

self supply ammo

vocal zenith
solar obsidian
#

WoahTea dont be sad

pearl ridge
#

Who the fuck is this ‘Inspireyourself’ guy and does he play literally anything else

tame cobalt
#

This is just how deez works out sometimes

pearl ridge
#

Fucker’s walking proof of the brokenness of the nightbird

#

One strafe and six men are dead

tame cobalt
#

Kek

pearl ridge
#

And he’s like S557

#

Why is it always the guys with stupid amounts of playtime who only do one fucking thing

#

Do they ever get bored

solar obsidian
#

WoahTea way to embrace the dedicated in this community

pearl ridge
#

There’s dedication and then there’s obsession.

solar obsidian
#

the latter are mostly those who keep games alive for decades

pearl ridge
#

You never see these guys playing infantry

solar obsidian
#

thank god for playable freedom in this game 🙂

pearl ridge
#

These are the fuckers who stop me from engaging in playable freedoms

solar obsidian
#

just stop him, 🙂

pearl ridge
#

They hard-lock vehicle spawns

signal basin
#

Hmm

solar obsidian
pearl ridge
#

This is the sort of game where an Apache is something that makes me go “oh thank god” because it means nobody’s spawned a fucking nightbird.

#

I can handle gunships. They are dangerous but manageable with the right tactics, as they should be.

upbeat sand
#

thats all

pearl ridge
#

But the fucking nightbird carries just as much firepower, and gives control of all of it to the pilot alone.

upbeat sand
wanton bramble
#

What time will 3.2 be live?

next onyx
#

It's Ashe.

upbeat sand
upbeat sand
pearl ridge
#

Ugh not that fucker.

next onyx
#

1942 is kind of fun actually.

wanton bramble
#

3.2 is suppose to release January 20

#

I'm just curious on the time 😂

upbeat sand
wanton bramble
#

Probably 8 utc

upbeat sand
#

from last year

solar obsidian
#

LUL night rider flying edition

upbeat sand
#

wrong patch notes

solar obsidian
#

0.3.2 hahahaha

chilly jacinth
#

people still falling for it

wanton bramble
#

Technically 0.3.2. Though it's abbreviated 3.2

pearl ridge
#

What is the MP9 even for honestly

wanton bramble
#

I'm just using the official title 😂

pearl ridge
#

It’s just. Crap.

wanton bramble
#

And Ashe ain't it

#

Pick Sojurn

#

Or JunkRat 😉

#

😕

eager spire
pearl ridge
#

I’ve used it in several matches and I only just broke fifteen kills

#

It’s just so… tiny.

eager spire
#

it used to be usable

#

but then it wasn't

pearl ridge
#

Completely useless at range and not anything special close up

eager spire
#

much like SMG's in general

pearl ridge
#

They’re just less useful ARs

#

But the MP9 is by far the least useful of them all

#

Fuck it I’m grinding out that P90 Pistol in bot matches

#

I can’t stand this piece of crap

#

Saw a guy with at least three T1’d weapons at level 89.

solar obsidian
pearl ridge
#

I’m at level 88.

#

What the hell’s up with that guy?

#

Farming on portal?

chilly jacinth
#

daily skill issue complaining

pearl ridge
#

Fuck off if you don’t have anything of note to say

chilly jacinth
#

I've noted that you have a skill issue

pearl ridge
#

I’ve noted that you’re an arsehole

chilly jacinth
#

cope

solar obsidian
#

WoahTea players dont want sbmm with equally rated teams and skill in this game,

enjoy the fun

pearl ridge
#

Bot problem: if you die beneath one of those raised prefab buildings on Exposure or Breakaway, a medic bot will enter the building itself, walk over to be above you, and then stare at the floor.

golden dagger
#

We have a job to do.

solemn stratus
#

Is the AM40 a good assualt rifle?

upbeat sand
#

with the angels and angels

golden dagger
#

oh

#

i forgor

upbeat sand
#

Its all angels and angels, till someone angels and angels

pearl ridge
#

Another, easier to fix, bot problem is the fact that they actively refuse to drop ammo, even though some of them are marked as having crates

#

I also now understand why breakthrough on Exposure is so reviled.

#

That second sector is just stupid.

#

How is anyone supposed to hold both objectives at once when they’re not even remotely close to each other, and are straight up at entirely different altitudes?

#

Attackers really get shafted there

silk surge
#

I've finally mastered Zain's airburst. I had an Exposure game where I got roughly 30 kills with it.

The kills really stacks up when you use it properly.

chilly jacinth
#

they sure do

upbeat sand
#

ive gotten over 25 kills on dozer's sheild in 1 gamre

idle lion
#

so whens the update going live

#

after 3 hours of straight copium i think ive finally come to terms with the removal of c5 from assault and im ready

upbeat sand
#

that isnt the true patchnotes

#

those are from 2021-2022

#

its not 3.2

idle lion
#

wait so its not updating today

versed wave
#

no

upbeat sand
#

you where looking at 0.3.2

#

before S1

upbeat sand
#

ey i got the achievement by total accident

remote meteor
upbeat sand
pearl ridge
#

I’d have a lot better match score if they actually gave it for support actions

ripe hedge
#

3.2 hype

pearl ridge
#

Never mind I’m the only reason you motherfuckers have ammo

#

But ooh have you seen Pp29 spammer #60? They totes contributed more!

#

Repairing only gives score if the guy you repaired kills something while you’re doing it.

#

Healing doesn’t even give you anything at all because it doesn’t count as assisting

#

Neither does ammo

upbeat sand
pearl ridge
#

I mean hell you only get twenty xp for healing!

upbeat sand
#

with no contex

pearl ridge
#

It’s not even based on health!

#

They had a perfectly functional scoring system in every other game

idle lion
pearl ridge
#

Watch as Rao’s use rate drops off a cliff

eager spire
#

@ripe hedge hey do you know the new sights and all of the new guns are off center when ADS

pearl ridge
#

Huh. Cyanide is in my squad. Well, better there than on the enemy team…

last swift
#

🚅3.2-hype-train

ripe hedge
eager spire
idle lion
#

what time will 3.2 be coming out

arctic grove
#

is it normal for the game to drop fps to like 90 with a 3070ti

#

unless my 5600x is old already or something

pearl ridge
#

And the one time that guy’s on my side the enemy team is so incompetent that I struggle to even find them.

mental delta
pearl ridge
#

Tried the P90. Feels weaker than other SMGs but at least it’s not the damn mp9

#

Seems that almost every portal weapon has power issues.

pearl ridge
#

It’s just anaemic.

next onyx
pearl ridge
#

Tiny effective range but it’s no good within it either.

low timber
pearl ridge
#

Garand sniper I think

low timber
#

Ah, haven’t much lately, damn kidney stones.

paper totem
#

Guys
My mouse is 3200 dpi and it has 4 changing colours
Does that mean that each colour is 800 dpi more? ( it doesn't have a software)

grizzled whale
#

probably

cloud sonnet
shy latch
next onyx
remote kiln
low timber
#

Meanwhile you can’t hold breath with the GVT and Rorsch at all.

pearl ridge
#

Feel like they did something with 2042 that makes sniper rifles less effective with console controls compared to, say, V

remote kiln
#

I wouldn't advise a sensitivity above 4% unless you're on 1440p or above, 2200-2400 DPI will probably work for you

next onyx
#

Double xp people's.

#

Probably worth a go

ancient peak
#

Ah good. That should get me through the rest of the Battlepass

patent path
#

when will the battlepass end?

next onyx
#

6 weeks .

patent path
#

ah so I have enough time then

ancient peak
#

Pah-lenty of time

idle lion
#

ggs i just finished the battlepass

spark leaf
#

Is there a specific method to level up the fastest or is it just play multiplayer?

ancient peak
#

Get all the xp. Play a character that can get a lot of ribbons etc

#

Play during 2x xp weekend

#

Etc

spark leaf
ancient peak
#

Falck/Angel

#

Play breakthrough

wide shore
#

Falck with an ammo box. On breakthrough or rush chaos

#

Double XP weekend rn too.

#

Hell even just spotting with Casper’s drone in the above gamemodes would net you loads of xp

real ether
#

Are classes really coming back?

wide shore
#

Yes

real ether
#

PensiveFish damn

real ether
#

classes are shit ngl

formal imp
#

Why

arctic grove
#

There was no reason anyone besides an Engineer should have ever been allowed to use a rocket. Just fucked everything up, same thing with a Recon using an ammo box

#

Which are simply two examples of my earlier comment

real ether
#

I just don't like that weapons are class-locked

#

:/

arctic grove
#

No worries, they’re not

clever marlin
#

Only certain ones

#

At least now I’ll be spending more time with my boy Casper

#

🤣

arctic grove
#

All weapons will remain unlocked for all classes to use, it’s just classes will receive certain buffs for using weapons in line with their class type

clever marlin
#

Gotta master the motion sensor

formal imp
clever marlin
#

Also all load outs will be reset to their original amounts

#

So assault gets M5, PBX for support, LCMG for engineers (idk why), and SWS for recons

#

On that subject, why are engineers getting light machine guns

sharp marten
#

What

clever marlin
#

Wouldn’t it make more sense to give it to supports

quick egret
#

Why not I guess medics are going to be more frontline

sharp marten
#

There is no gun restrictions

clever marlin
#

Yeah but I mean

quick egret
#

Proficiency bonus

clever marlin
#

Why are engineers getting proficiencies for LMGs

#

when their role is anti vehicle

arctic grove
#

Support is likee

#

A bit like medic

#

I assume that’s why

real ether
clever marlin
#

If anything, support should get that since their role is for defense purposes

quick egret
#

Medic had smg in V and it worked pretty well

#

Engineer support had lmg in V

arctic grove
#

Supports assume the role of medic a bit, so I think that’s why they wanted to give them an smg proficiency

clever marlin
#

Medics and support in general should be more responsive and be more in the lines of defense

arctic grove
#

They’ll be dealing with close quarters a lot if they’re running up to bodies

#

That’s my theory anyway

ancient peak
#

The way I see it, engineer is sort of built around static defense rather than fluid offense/defense. Crawford and Boris’s specials are suited to chokepoints and defense. Lis is an outlier but like Boris and Crawford she has access to land mines etc for defense

shy latch
arctic grove
#

I mean I heard like 3 specialists will be getting adjusted for classes anyways so presumably for all specialists that need it they’ll change

#

I’m glad they’re doing it though cause man

#

I know it’s not bound to magically make people heal you more but at least supports will be forced to be dedicated to their role without an assault or recon being able to do like 60% of their job for them

shy latch
#

even on previous BFs when medic where nearby you a lot of times they never revived you

arctic grove
#

Classes aren’t magic

#

But what I mean is at least the role is clearly defined

shy latch
#

exactly, classes aren't magic, so there will not be any difference from this point of view

arctic grove
#

The difference won’t be massive

#

But there will certainly be a difference

#

Taking away ammo boxes from every other type of class immediately puts more responsibility on supports

#

Which is a good thing

#

The class system has proven itself over I dunno how many games over like the past 10+ years

#

It never needed to be changed anyways

#

It would’ve been even cooler if they brought back Vs subclasses. Like I know for medic one let’s you run quicker if you ping a downed friendly

clever marlin
#

Here’s the thing though

#

People have favorite operators

#

And will prefer to use one operator over another

arctic grove
#

Yes

clever marlin
#

So I suspect this will cause a lot more support and assaults over recons and engineers

ancient peak
#

Eh… I suspect engineers to be played a lot in conquest purely because of vehicles

shy latch
real ether
#

i miss the eod robot

arctic grove
#

It’s coming back actually

clever marlin
#

If anything though this will likely give incentives to buff the other specialists to make this more appealing

real ether
arctic grove
shy latch
#

imo 2042 from class/specialist point of view shouldn't be touched; at least the class return was better to have with the next BF title

arctic grove
#

I mean if anything was gonna change I would’ve still at least wanted like, launchers to be adjusted

#

I dunno tho cause it all sounds chaotic when you think about it, mostly free gadgets across 64 players on one team alone CursedCat

shy latch
#

for me the problem isn't the free gadgets across 64 people, for me one of the biggest problem is having 64 players per team

clever marlin
#

Also they need to rework map sizes for 64 player modes

shy latch
#

when I heard about 128p server I was enthusiast, but later when I played it I understood wasn't a good move, too many people

clever marlin
#

In addition to bringing back 128 player breakthrough

arctic grove
#

It’s cool on the reworked versions of the map

#

Travel time is still longer but that’s a given

clever marlin
#

But I think server and network stability is something the developers should target next

#

That and render latency

#

50-70ms render latency is high

#

With low latency mode and reflex enabled

shy latch
#

128p isn't a matter of travel time, is a matter of fights

clever marlin
#

Oh and more importantly: doubling the vehicle counts for 128 player modes

arctic grove
#

Oh yeah to clarify I just meant I personally don’t have too many complaints for 128 conquest

quiet shell
#

I predict.. patchnotes this upcoming monday, and then the update on the 23d

sharp marten
#

I’m holding you to that

#

If you’re wrong you owe everyone in the discord boins

clever marlin
#

No it’s today

sharp marten
#

That’s not true

arctic grove
#

100 boins per person

shy latch
#

2042 already have a lot of verticality compared to any other previous BF title, plus the stealth heli with those damn HE bombs and a couple of specialist that can reach absurd points, having 64 players against you is something that ruin the game experience because you literally should have 100 eyes

arctic grove
#

I can see why you think that

clever marlin
#

The stealth heli needs a counter act to the stealth mode

arctic grove
#

Slightly off topic but I hate Mackay and Sundance still having C5

clever marlin
#

What they should do is when it gets emped or hacked, it will leave stealth mode

shy latch
arctic grove
#

Sundance can fly up behind you from literally cross map so you’re constantly scanning around. I mean the mobility is cool but damn, I like not having to do it as much in almost any other title

shy latch
arctic grove
#

Like you need situational awareness as a vehicle player period but when Mackay and Sundance exist it’s just pain

ancient peak
#

Sweaty players love those two specialists

shy latch
stiff pollen
#

Update will be next week on Tuesday

#

They wouldn’t have announced changes this early if not the update arriving next week

arctic grove
#

How Do I unlock Weapons and Customization?

shy latch
#

btw I wonder if together the update 3.2 will come the other changes also (like the APS on vehicles, turrets speed), if so it's going to be a big patch

stiff pollen
#

Who knows

#

I’m done with this season completely so I’m only logging in for new shit

spark leaf
shy latch
quaint vector
clever marlin
#

Oh it’s mastery 13?

#

I thought it was 20

arctic grove
#

Oh the next update Next Tuesday?

#

Man if so that’s perfect

spark leaf
#

Getting a skin for a weapon you dont have unlocked lets you use it right?

arctic grove
#

We ain’t codCursedCat

spark leaf
arctic grove
#

any update on that stealth bomber ya all?

#

Nothing new yet

crimson basin
#

Only 11 more days in this month, why they keep saying later this month SadFace

astral quiver
#

on the 31st

devout quest
#

i normally play on PC but sometimes i like to play on my couch/console, w/ crossplay off the game is basically not playable (no lobbies), have they said anything about combining ps4/5 and xbox one/series lobbies (would be only 64 players, 128 could be a different queue)

#

similar to how bfv lobbies for ps4 and ps5 are the same

arctic grove
#

They have not

pseudo pecan
#

which platform has the most active player base and least bots? (if pc, does store matter? ie steam vs ea app directly?)

still vault
#

Both new consoles and PC can play together, doesn't matter which PC storefront.

#

No hard numbers suitable to compare between to come to any conclusion about player numbers.

pseudo pecan
#

gotcha ty, well good to know cause for PC players since storefront doesnt matter, it just went on sale on steam

still vault
#

Epic and Steam both boot the EA app which then launches the game.

shy latch
spiral folio
#

Mmboy extra steps

quaint vector
hexed mango
next onyx
#

Forgot to ping angra.

slender hare
#

guys why is BF5 so much hated?

chilly jacinth
#

it isn't

slender hare
shy latch
wide shore
sharp marten
spark leaf
#

Is there a benefit to stacking Subsonic rounds AND Suppressors? They do the same thing right?

next onyx
#

@sharp marten Yes.

ancient peak
#

As is usual, the previous title becomes the second coming

sharp marten
#

Bar in general is just a great gun

#

Oh dude people will always complain

#

You literally can’t please anyone

shy latch
sharp marten
#

And fingers crossed if the new Op has a mortar people are going to piss themselves

#

Most people who hate the games usually don’t give it a second change and still think it’s a bad game like bro grow up the games decent dare I say pretty good fight me

#

💀

next onyx
#

i5 7600

radiant prism
#

I was playing in another server last night completely unrelated to BF and had 3 separate people come in and try to tell me how bad of a game it is and then all say they last played at launch

#

And then one of them told me I couldn’t say I didn’t like BF1 because I was playing 2042

#

Like bruh, I got my start in the franchise in BF1 and put 600 hours in it and loved it until I played literally any other game in the franchise and realized how busted it is

#

All because I tried to say it’s gotten a lot better since launch, and I think most people who actually pay attention to the game would agree

#

Yes

arctic grove
#

it won't be 100% classic

#

don't be hopeful

radiant prism
#

There’s a few preliminary lists of which class gets which gadgets but it’s likely changed since it was last talked about. We’ll find out once the patch notes come out

solid imp
#

I get that people have moved on and not interested in giving it another shot, but continuing to rail about the game like it's 2021 is kinda sad lol

radiant prism
#

Last I saw assault gets medpen, armor, smoke launcher, and I think claymore, engineer gets the rocket launchers (including the Javelin), repair tool, AT mines, and C5, support gets the crates, and recon gets SOFLAM, deploy beacon, sensor nades, and C5

#

That’s not complete and there’s more that I can’t remember lol

#

Oh yeah like engineer also gets the EOD bot

arctic grove
#

so

radiant prism
#

I would be more interested in portal but I think they’re right to focus on the main game

#

Though it is a lot of wasted potential

#

Hopefully they can try to bring it back

arctic grove
drowsy shuttle
#

3.2 is out yet?

radiant prism
#

No

#

Likely next week

arctic grove
#

if they aren't doing that

#

I'm not interested

drowsy shuttle
#

give us the update already, Dice.

#

life is too short

arctic grove
#

and return to the classic BF

#

you pussy

#

do it

radiant prism
#

oh no another week to wait for my video game

drowsy shuttle
#

i might not have another week

wide shore
#

He’s got a point

radiant prism
#

If that’s the only thing you have to worry about for the last week of your life that’s kinda sad

drowsy shuttle
#

maybe... but i already had a nice life

wide shore
#

Having nothing else to worry about is kinda a blessing, no?

radiant prism
#

I mean maybe

lucid goblet
quaint vector
#

👀

granite island
#

Podcast

#

I hope they talk about season 4 or beyond in it

sharp marten
#

Battlefield has a podcast now can we call it battle cast?

sharp marten
arctic grove
#

and BETTER gunplay

spiral folio
#

Podcast is a really weird and dated term by now

sharp marten
#

Battle cast

spiral folio
#

Originally it was called that for regularly downloaded radio show things to ipods

sharp marten
#

What do you call them now?

#

Talkie time

chilly jacinth
#

castpods

sharp marten
#

Codspast

spiral folio
#

They had another name before apple acted like they invented it too but because ipods were the popular mp3 player

sharp marten
#

Bro the old days

radiant prism
#

Did you guys know podcast is an anagram for deltarune

sharp marten
#

With the mp3

spiral folio
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But yea PODcast cause any single person has an ipod still

sharp marten
spiral folio
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Yea rearrange the letters for podcast... add a few and take some away...
Spells satan

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Just saying

sharp marten
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Ope new bf2042 lore confirmed

spiral folio
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10th floor arbys

calm bison
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People be seeing these new class changes and act like it’s the worst thing in the world

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I saw someone compare 3.2 to BFV’s 5.2

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Like good god

spiral folio
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Its bad

calm bison
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Not really

spiral folio
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Yea it is

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If you play at over 100m its bad

calm bison
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5.2 was awful. Truly awful. It was like throwing pebbles at Godzilla

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In addition literally no one asked for it

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Literally no one

spiral folio
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5.2 maybe what made me leave for bf1

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3.2 might again

next onyx
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Yeah nothing will be as bad as 5.2.

calm bison
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3.2 is not nearly as bad as 5.2

spiral folio
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I dont really have an idea what 5.2 was exactly

calm bison
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5.2 completely upset TTK values

spiral folio
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I just know eventually i got sick of bf5

calm bison
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Allow to illustrate with the FG-42

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At 100m

next onyx
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100m no.

calm bison
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The FG-42 took 19 bullets to kill

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On 5.2 release

next onyx
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Beyond 30m it would take 17 rounds.

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Which was unreasonable.

calm bison
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They buffed that value a little in 5.2.2

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But it was still awful

next onyx
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To a 9hk.

calm bison
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I remember getting killed by it one time and thinking impossible

next onyx
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Yeah dice wants to forget it existing because I doubt they actually wanted it going through.

spiral folio
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At 30m?

calm bison
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5.2 was what led me to actually play the MG-42 with the light bolt because that thing was bugged and didn’t get the 5.2 values

spiral folio
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Bf5 seemed to really favor automatics how i felt

calm bison
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When 6.2 came out it was like a fucking national holiday

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Like holy shit we can actually kill the enemies this time

spiral folio
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I didn't hate bf5 but 1 seemed just more fun

next onyx
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Look how much better the game plays now.

calm bison
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Except most people don’t know that anymore

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They dropped BFV as soon as 5.2 came out and never looked back

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In turn they have no idea that the TTK was reverted

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So they end up hating BFV just now for an even dumber reason

spiral folio
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I cant remember when i stopped playing bf5. Between the planes and that crappy server i used

calm bison
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Which shouldn’t be possible since the first reasons were already dumb as hell

spiral folio
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I really blame the LEB server as much as the usual sniper nerfs

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Like I can deal with not being able to snipe in a game

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But like that server basically encouraged team stacking

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Some clan routinely stacked the server and you'd have the whole losing team like "hey can some people swap teams to make this fair, it's killing the server"

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And the admins just like "theyre not breaking any rules, deal with it"

calm bison
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You could only swap teams on console iirc

spiral folio
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Ok -half the team leaves-

calm bison
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Since console had the ability to join on a random player given that BFV never had a swap team button

spiral folio
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Like they literally actually ruined the server

solid imp
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That's one of the main arguments against rentable third-party servers

spiral folio
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Yes like bf5s weird lack of auto balance

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Due to character customization

calm bison
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I hate third party servers because the people running them have a strange lack of any creativity

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Like damn people

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It wouldn’t kill you to not make these 3200 ticket 200% damage HC servers all the time

solid imp
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I personally loved them and miss them dearly, but we ran ours with balance, only basic votemap type stuff to keep it easy and simple to understand

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There were loads which were poorly run

calm bison
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If there was a community server that had all of the maps in BF4 on conquest large, I would marathon that shit

spiral folio
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Private servers are finicky as private citizens

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One server could be fair and then "using 08/18 = ban on sight"

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The bf1 server i use usually just says like "no art trucks in the uncap"

silver arch
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Is the BF1942 game mode limited time or something more permanent

spiral folio
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Portal servers are a bonus to the game its not a full fledged game

solid imp
spiral folio
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They can be

real parcel
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looking for squad bf2042

solid imp
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!!lfg

tender pendantBOT
spiral folio
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I was on one where like i was supporting a flank and this guy goes "you can't be there" huh? "You cant shoot from there cause its hard to shoot you its basically off the map" its literally not . Likebthe left flank wall on fort vaux

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In the end they wanted me like basically on the front. Left the server like ok this is stupid.

solid imp
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Portal Logic + private servers would clarify the rules at least 🙂

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If you don't want me there, kill me when I enter that zone and don't leave in like... 5 or 10 seconds

spiral folio
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I kinda hope they just unleash portal later on

solid imp
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If you don't do that, don't complain about me being there

spiral folio
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Like let you modify every setting or attribute ever

patent prism
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bf map editor wen

spiral folio
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Like speed gravity hp etc like anything

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All weapons from all eras

solid imp
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In one of the surveys

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They asked about whether a map editor to move assets around would be desirable

spiral folio
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:u

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More than desirable

solid imp
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I think I not only answered Yes with many !!!! but in open text answers later on repeated how much I want that lol

spiral folio
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Like if i could bear their children is that enough

patent prism
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A map editor would be extremely desirable in my view.

spiral folio
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Yea man imagine what you could do

patent prism
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I mean I guarantee there would be "XP farms" abusing that mechanic, but I kinda don't care about that as much.