battlefield-2042

[sharp marten]

I mean they were also under the leadership of candy crush man tf does that dude know about a war game 🗿

[dusk forum]

Now we wait for 3.2

[elfin void]

A 20mm round is pretty big right?

[spiral folio]

huge

[elfin void]

So it should kill someone fast I imagine

What vehicle has a 20mm round

[spiral folio]

I think its 20mm hispano even

[dusk forum]

Is the NTW a one shot

[elfin void]

Anywhere yes

Another cheap tool

Body shot snipers shouldn't exist in shooter games imo

[spiral folio]

If you get hit with a .50cal its over

20mm they might have boots left

[analog fractal]

It's like: "Why do I have to put like 5 SMG rounds in a guy to down them? 1 or 2 is enough to down someone at close range irl"
it's a pointless argument

[spiral folio]

Its not just "ok so its a big rifle"
No its an actual cannon

[willow sky]

too bad, ill be quickscoping with the NTW like the CoD brat i am!!

kidding

[hearty flame]

that doesnt excuse all the design decisions that were present at launch.

[elfin void]

You shouldn't compare games to real life. Games have certain things in place for balance sake. That's why a single shotgun shot won't clap you at 50m

Because that wouldn't be fair

[spiral folio]

They shoulda just added a .50cal rifle

It fits way better

Than a 60lb mobile cannon

[solid imp]

would be having the same argument even if they did

[spiral folio]

Nah like the power difference is huge

[solid imp]

but relative to a realistic 1HK from a RL perspective it's literally the same topic

it doesn't matter how big a round you talk about past a certain point

[spiral folio]

So making a .50cal do the damage of a 308 isnt as big of a distance between

"2 shot kills with a 20mm"

[elfin void]

Tac-50 is pretty cool tbf

Cooler than the NTW

[spiral folio]

Hell like the m82/107 are... old now

[solid imp]

half the weapons in any non-realistic FPS is there for the cool factor and to give some variety

[next onyx]

Games are meant for fun and if you're looking for realism you should play a game purposely orientated around it.

[spiral folio]

And weighs 30%

[next onyx]

Doom was my first first person shooter. I want fun, things to kill.

[spiral folio]

The worst part is the m95 models are already IN THE GAME

[elfin void]

Not to mention theres games that do try to imitate real life, and if that's what you want in a game it's there for you

[sharp marten]

Yeah it kind of does

[elfin void]

But comparing games in general to real life 🙅

[solid imp]

I love when the chat hits a point where there are 4 separate threads mingling

[sharp marten]

When you’re under the leadership of someone who hasn’t the slightest clue of what’s going on

[elfin void]

Active chat

[next onyx]

Still remember the season 1 chat going crazy.

[elfin void]

I'll go play some Exodus Conquest and back out of Valpariso 100 times

🙂

[next onyx]

Valparaiso my beloved.

[elfin void]

Awful map

[solid imp]

it's great wym lol

[hearty flame]

great map

[solid imp]

foliage that actually does something tangible for movement

[sharp marten]

Making decisions that shouldn’t have been a thing then you have the people that are like “WeLl ClAsSes ShOuLd HaVe BeEn a ThInG sInCe reLeAsE” yeah ok I’m not saying you’re wrong but classes are a thing now so what’s the problem

[elfin void]

I prefer urban maps

Or Zavod 311

That's my favorite map of all time

[solid imp]

zavod after dark 🙂

[next onyx]

I like Valparaiso because of its pacing.

Mackay is good on it.

[solid imp]

Karkand was always my beloved, I do enjoy urban maps a great deal

[sharp marten]

I saw something on Twitter saying S4 drops feb28th

So close yet so far

[elfin void]

I'm a Zain only player rn

[next onyx]

Same here.

[solid imp]

Mackay is good on ___ fills in map name ___

mackay can disregard any map design

[spiral folio]

Hourglass

[sharp marten]

Same

[elfin void]

I honestly think every squad should have a Zain

[sharp marten]

He’s just to good to put down

[analog fractal]

Same, it's sucks we barely have any this time

[elfin void]

His XM is so good

[spiral folio]

Anyone sick of looking for ammo will be using zaij

Then theyll nerf him

[willow sky]

Falck sweats gonna be runnin SMG now 😳

[elfin void]

Assault players using assault weapons won't really have an ammo issue anymore

[spiral folio]

Cause anything that gets used "too much" will get nerfed

[elfin void]

Unless they're cracked out of their skulls and go on 30+ streaks

I mean his XM can be oppressive but it's not OP

[solid imp]

I love zain for the fact that he's a direct mackay counter
"oh you're up on that red container? enjoy this"

[elfin void]

Exactly

[analog fractal]

The new class system won't even be that limiting, everyone will be able to run any gun

[spiral folio]

Saw a zain popping off snipers on top of the spearhead boxes

[analog fractal]

Having medic use medic stuff etc is just good design

[spiral folio]

With penalty

Say it every time

[elfin void]

You know B flag on Kaleidoscope

[spiral folio]

Even if its slight

[elfin void]

It has those stairs right

[analog fractal]

So many fucking people use rocket launchers and shit in their kits now

[elfin void]

And people headglitching

[analog fractal]

Instead of support stuff

[elfin void]

I love going there with Zain

[spiral folio]

Also you can't use the specialist you want

Ie lis with ammo

[willow sky]

Vehicle mains will finally not be oppressed with an entire enemy team running Recoilless

[hearty flame]

no penalties, just bonuses for using the "right" weapon

[spiral folio]

Any time anything ever ever ever infringes on vehicle mains the devs walk it back

Always

[willow sky]

bonuses or not, the ability to still run any gun is good

[solid imp]

They walk back based on infantry complaints too though?

[spiral folio]

Losing a bonus is literally the same thing as a penalty

[solid imp]

Stealth nerf, bolte nerf, .50 on condor/hind nerf

[hearty flame]

but they arent losing anything because the classes never had the bonuses.

[analog fractal]

I'm just happy that from now on, you have an idea idea what your teammates have and can do when you see their class (like previous BF games)

[spiral folio]

Is hind still an overpowered flying tank. Yes

[solid imp]

But it's been walked back yea?

[elfin void]

I still think the Condor/Hind shouldnt have the grenade launcher

[solid imp]

Not as far as you want but it's been nerfed

[elfin void]

Miniguns on both sides is fine

[analog fractal]

Instead of support charcthers not having ammo boxes and repair kits

[spiral folio]

Seeing ally clases totally doesnt matter

[analog fractal]

It was so fucking stupid before

[spiral folio]

You could already see whos a medic and who has ammo

[knotty charm]

Boy i miss the days of bf4 and bfp4f

[analog fractal]

Same goes for your opponents tho @spiral folio

Medic can't out of nowhere pull out C4 and rocket launchers now

[solid imp]

I always shoot at the Falck in a group first

[spiral folio]

I dont care which enemy has ammo or is a medic

[willow sky]

The best you can do to some "expert flying condor/hind" player is to constantly hack and spam anti air rockets until they run away to stay alive

like thats all there is

it a cat and mouse game

[elfin void]

Can someone check if they can host a Portal Experience? I can't, tried restarting the game already

[analog fractal]

Making stuff more readable is a good thing in a chaotic MP game like BF

[spiral folio]

The hind is wildly op yea it needs to be crushed

[sharp marten]

Ceiling cap gonna good for that

[solid imp]

It's the same rock/paper/scissors for the hind as it is going up against someone like Way in a gunfight... more people shooting at him with more flanking and countering him will bring him down more consistently than trying to counter him 1:1

[spiral folio]

They should also prevent it from going behind enemy lines on BT imo

[solid imp]

Now that I agree with but only to a point

[spiral folio]

The area of travel the enemy chopper gets on BT is moronic

[solid imp]

It should have some airspace restrictions like ground vehicles do when the next base is locked

[sharp marten]

Bring back the spawn AA

[willow sky]

Meanwhile ill just stick to using the MAV...

[solid imp]

C-RAM when 🙂

[willow sky]

do people still use the bolte? I feel like its still a pretty good vehicle

[spiral folio]

Kaleidoscope is the worst offender of the hind having waaaaay too much freedom

The enemy chopper can go further behind your own lines than you can

[solid imp]

Renewal says "hold my beer"

that wall is just a big stinger blocker

[spiral folio]

No because the uncap on kaleidoscope has buildings it can just land on/behind and repair... then attack you from behind

[solid imp]

so then spearhead as well

[spiral folio]

Yea spearheads bad cause they can do it eeevery sector

They do it all the frigin time

[wild marlin]

where's the automatic CIWS dice????

[spiral folio]

Like there should just about be auto-lock missiles on you if you go too far into ENEMY TERRITORY

[wild marlin]

🎲🎲🎲 no ciws in spawn 😭😭

[solid imp]

but it's still the rock/paper/scissors argument because let's say you have 5 people trying to counter those 5 people in the Hind... if it's always getting hacked and locked and damaged it's probably not sitting and orbiting with cannons for very long

boring isn't the same as unbalanced

[spiral folio]

Like the whole frigin point of BT is youre pushing the enemy forces back as though it a big ol army not just magic zombies coming back to life

Its supposed to be there's a larger force of hundreds there

[wild marlin]

idk if Crawfords mounted Vulcan having a face hole is balanced

like it already breaks so fast

[spiral folio]

The idiotic level of durability the hind has is the worst part

[wild marlin]

and 2 repair baby sitters 😂😂😂

[spiral folio]

Like they nerfed rail damage to tanks by 50% and to light vehicles by 25%...
Which is the hind

Cause it takes as many missile hits as a tank

[hearty flame]

are you really surprised that dice is bad at balancing air vehicles?

[spiral folio]

Bf1 was fine

5 less fine

[wild marlin]

when are they gonna add squad locked vehicles tho but the, rest.
😤

[spiral folio]

The fact vehicle mains exist is an indicator

Vehicle class when

[hearty flame]

I mean their track record is pretty bad. in 3 and/or 4 air vics didnt even start with flares until later levels. and in V planes were going on 100 streaks since launch. and now balancing is bad again in 2042

[spiral folio]

More rules more rules more rules

[solid imp]

BF would turn into COD pretty quick if there weren't vehicle mains

[wild marlin]

like you see all these losers with 10+ kds and then you check their stats and they have 20k kills on vehicles exclusively

[solid imp]

Had a buddy who would literally just transport people in BF2, that's what he did all the time and he was really good at it

[mental delta]

I read the class rework post, wasn't that useful but whatever

[dusk forum]

I’m so fucking bored at class it’s time to make a portal experince

[spiral folio]

They should add a function to the vehicle line preventing
"The same fucker akways taking the..."

[solid imp]

How he love playing the game

[wild marlin]

tell us more about your opinion 😀

[dusk forum]

Wait is there no breakthrough?

[mental delta]

What ? I just meant the post wasn't that useful, like they could have just made one once they release it or just 1 week before to give the release date

[wild marlin]

well I was hoping you'd elaborate on your opinion

[solid imp]

That's an argument for more people wasting the most important air asset by spawning it and then hovering over a flag for the 5 seconds it takes to get blown up by a bunch of M5... or plowing it into the ground because they don't realize the Condor isn't the same as the Hind

[wild marlin]

not just make a blanket statement and not expand on the thought

[spiral folio]

Nah just discouraging vehicle mains from hogging the vehicles nonstop

[mental delta]

My opinion about what ?

[spiral folio]

Vehicle mains can literally pound sand

[wild marlin]

.

[spiral folio]

Fight on foot for a bit

[solid imp]

But I would also rather vehicle mains than yet another condor taxi go flying by wasting the respawn clock another couple minutes

[wild marlin]

or is that a fact statement because it would be subjective

[solid imp]

I do agree folks should mix it up but no game can control everything every player does

[mental delta]

I don't find it useful because there's no date yet and that they say things we mostly already knew about class return

[hearty flame]

so how would you fix vehicles mains then? maybe a vehicle spawn queue so they have to wait for others to get a spin?

[spiral folio]

Solution
Pilot can no longer eject

[solid imp]

I don't see vehicle mains as something to fix necessarily

[spiral folio]

Not fix entirely just make their lives harder

[solid imp]

I mean... the vehicle mains would be in here talking about how infantry should have their lives made harder

sandbox game gonna sandbox

[chilly dove]

Nerf em, increase the spawns of them. Problem solved.

[wild marlin]

ah you're referring to the new post the devs made, I haven't read it yet

[solid imp]

hind is already literally the only air vehicle attackers get

[wild marlin]

doing it now

[solid imp]

on BT

[spiral folio]

Vehicle mains luckily dont know how to talk because they're always flying around and such

[mental delta]

What did you think I was talking about ?

[solid imp]

they straight up took away the stealth and attack heli

that's pretty big rebalancing

[spiral folio]

Yea .. i dont personally feel that was a good fix

[wild marlin]

I thought you were simply making a blanket statement about the upcoming update

[solid imp]

which is fine but it's not like they aren't rebalancing things

[chilly dove]

nightbirds slept with your wife, stop defending them

[wild marlin]

but I was mistaken

[solid imp]

just not the thing you want them to do

[spiral folio]

Like minis werent exactly a balance changer
Stealths were annoying af

[mental delta]

I was asking for classes since launch so no I'm happy with class return

[solid imp]

yea esp stealth that could take multiple tgm

[spiral folio]

The AA rocket is pretty ass

The lis was more effective for stealths

[chilly dove]

I think the AA rocket is fine. Flares are alright too. We have skill based missiles like TOW and Lis rocket etc

[spiral folio]

Yea but the flares recharge fast and you get 2 whole AA rockets

And it takes again as many to down a hind as a tank

[wild marlin]

I too agree with the return of the class system. I think everyone running around with recoilless is fucking gay

[chilly dove]

But dodging all threats as a chopper is not hard. So the reward for doing that is infinite ammo + Infantry Farming Simulator 2042. It's not fair. They need reload points to slow their farm.

[spiral folio]

If everyone has a recoilless then nobody has ammo for it

[chilly dove]

oh I wasn't defending them at all. I know how OP air vehicles are

last night someone was trying to defend them here lol, it still irks me

[spiral folio]

Literally the main reason i ditched my rocket build for lis was i coukd never get ammo

[knotty charm]

Why not force ppl to participate as a class like a server has 1/4eng room 1/4 med etc etc

[spiral folio]

Then i just got better at the lis rockets

Class limited are dumb

How would you like to be forced to be recon because "assault is taken"

[chilly dove]

forcing people to play a certain class gets too restrictive. It's a game not a military exercise

[spiral folio]

And all the assaults suck

[knotty charm]

I got no prob with that

[mental delta]

Lmao that's an unique way to make the statement but yeah, shouldn't be a thing in any BF game

[spiral folio]

Bs

[chilly dove]

and also, non standard squad make ups have their uses

[spiral folio]

Class limits are 90% just
"We HaVe ToO mAnY SnIpErS"

[knotty charm]

I played bf4 on all those servers and they where Awesome

[chilly dove]

yeah it's all crybabies from Battlefield 4

[spiral folio]

Yep.

Called it

[willow sky]

i thought it was "ToO mAnY rOCkET lAunChErS"

[chilly dove]

LMAO

[knotty charm]

WoW we got some new players in the Block 😂

[wild marlin]

are you ready to see black tate running around with javelins next update?

[spiral folio]

Nah like ive literally only seen bitchy class limits on snipers

[mental delta]

Lol black Tate ?

[wild marlin]

you know who I mean 😏

[willow sky]

LMAO black tate

[chilly dove]

gets sniped "tHiS gAmE sUx!1"

[willow sky]

they rage more if its the ntw

[spiral folio]

Youll never see a server go
"Guys theres too many spray and prayers? Can some of you go recon to balance the teams"

[mental delta]

I hate this specialist, fucking useless and well we still didn't get infos on those new gadgets

[willow sky]

hopefully his new trait will make him a good vehicle specialist

[spiral folio]

But like a team has 5/32 people sniping!?
Ooh oooOoooOH
PTFOOOO PFTOOOO TOO MANY SNIPERRRSSS

[wild marlin]

as he is right now yes, pocket sand has more utility. but next update he can have a launcher and a special repair passive 😄

[willow sky]

Boutta be maining Irish this next update 😎

[spiral folio]

What button is "i need ammo"

[wild marlin]

his gadget is still gonna fucking suck tho, cuz it makes you stationary and it has a face hole for bullets to fly thru xd

[spiral folio]

Is it popup menu only?

[chilly dove]

Battlefield 4's amount of idiotic crybabies about that were out of this world

[wild marlin]

yeah but what gadget open gadget r u gonna use?

[spiral folio]

Yea bf1 and 5 had a lot cause you can check classes on the scoreboard

[chilly dove]

made it so hard to find a basic conquest server without dumb restrictions

[willow sky]

ammo crate honestly

[spiral folio]

Like it didnt matter if we had 4 snipers and 8 recons doing the close range marksman stuff

[wild marlin]

what even are the support open gadgets gonna be

[spiral folio]

They see 12 "recons" and it means 12 snipers to them

[willow sky]

support has ammo crate, medical crate, smoke launcher and that last one i forgor

[chilly dove]

And if Battlefield 4 on PC was so pathetic with noob pandering servers, it was only a matter of time that consolians would arrive with cross play and cry even harder

[wild marlin]

I'd run med crate imo, cuz ammo packs drop and if you get lit in a duel, but ur pick is fine

[ancient peak]

Claymore

[spiral folio]

I made my bf1 medic into my marksman med-range guy

Replaced revive with riflenade

[solar obsidian]

people making fun about how they feel old

[willow sky]

I picked it just to support my teammates on gadget resupply, unless you have an angel or falck, swapping between is useful

[mental delta]

Yeah hopefully because in his current state he's useless af lmao

[willow sky]

combining it with crawfords trait, and you will have ur teammates fully restocked

[wild marlin]

well you're gonna restock open gadgets with your passive anyways you know

you're gonna be resupplying grenades and ammo

[spiral folio]

Is Crawford the minigun guy

[wild marlin]

like I just don't like his gadget period. I don't think they can make it work at all

[chilly dove]

so here we are, the year is 2042. Snap Aim exists. Billy can't aim worth shit without it on his ecksbawcks, and still asks for more handicaps and recoil nerfs because controllers are inherently garbo but they wont come to PC and learn mouse

[wild marlin]

like the only situation I can think of where it's useful is in strandeds ship hallways

[spiral folio]

Lis+crawford
A missile with a machinegun

[chilly dove]

the rare console person, usually on playstation 4/5 (or PC), who bothers to learn how to properly aim with controller and turns off all forms of aim assist: props to them

[mental delta]

Lol yeah so useless, it just can block some corridors, but it's so bad because his multiple skins are cool af

[wild marlin]

BRO REMEMBER THE FUCKING FLOATING MINIGUN DRONE FROM FINAL STAND??

literally make that Crawford's gadget

[spiral folio]

The wut

[wild marlin]

bro didn't play final stand 🤪🤪🤣🤣

[spiral folio]

I couldnt even tell ya what it is

[royal trail]

is there any way to remove the huge new indicators that appear around people when they die, they just clutter the screen...

[spiral folio]

Stop playing medic?

[wild marlin]

bro IS the master of arms 🥵🥵

[torpid wadi]

Sure gonna miss being falck with an ammo bag and intel grenade

[solar obsidian]

found another falk player alike

[wild marlin]

you still gonna have ur crate tho wdym

[chilly dove]

are they large? I didn't even notice since i rarely play support

[stoic ferry]

EA still down?

[torpid wadi]

Ah true true

[wild marlin]

and ur free XP ball can go suck it 🤣🤣

[stoic ferry]

cant see other players in social ingame

[torpid wadi]

Thanks for reminding me

[spiral folio]

The only good thing about the class nerf will be watching people go
"what why can't i...."

[royal trail]

theres like a huge ring that appears breifly then dissapears

[willow sky]

Interesting to see the sensor grenade becoming a gadget now too

[mental delta]

That's fun because season 2 was supposedly about guns trafficking but we got only 3 guns lol

[wild marlin]

crazy how insertion beacon gonna be recon class gadget

[chilly dove]

I would suspect that billy complained about someone not reviving him and so the developers pandered to him

[wild marlin]

yeah they should've made it about narcotic trade too and illegal mongolian uncle market

[chilly dove]

someone was in here crying about it last night too, dice thinks that's justification probably lol

[torpid wadi]

Yeah i wish we got some more older style guns in that update

[spiral folio]

One ironic thing about that is there's no legal way to get a rex revolver due to an arms treaty. The rex was originally made as
"Revolver for EXport" intended for the US market

[torpid wadi]

Least we got some more now

[mental delta]

A crackhead specialist with the special ability to become invisible ?

[willow sky]

Am I the only person that plays a missing class specialist in a squad to balance it out? 😔

[solar obsidian]

only issue with so much assistance is how its being forced as normal in multiplayer for me,
i think battlefield strike some good balance with it though, compared to mw2 thats just godlike tracking,

that said, both games are incredible casual experiences so i just enjoy the pros of cross play and such

[spiral folio]

And the rex was unlockable in s2

[wild marlin]

dude watch that be the new recons ability

right hand to god

[mental delta]

Yeah I saw it was meant to be exported lmao, epic fail from the guns makers

[wild marlin]

blessed 🙏🙏🙏

[torpid wadi]

Whats new with the recons?

[willow sky]

Invisible cloaked recon? 😳

[chilly dove]

guess i'm not surprised that it's worse in cod lmao

[willow sky]

The spy from tf2???

[wild marlin]

we're getting a new one next season

and he can backstab enemies and disguise as enemies

[willow sky]

LMAO

[spiral folio]

Some years ago there was plans on allowing imports again and then [current events happened]

[solar obsidian]

same with halo, they solved that issue by giving mouse players the same assistance,

[spiral folio]

A top break 357 would be cool buuut

[torpid wadi]

make gun for export

country you wanted to import it to bans all of your firearms imports

[wild marlin]

and they can also fake their death with the new "dead ringer" gadget

[chilly dove]

EEWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWW

[torpid wadi]

Oooh baby that sounds fun

Betcha they will be related to mi6

[wild marlin]

on god tho like why insertion beacons for recons exclusively 😂😡😭😭😭😭

[willow sky]

Add some exclusive takedown too 😳

[torpid wadi]

Attack of the dead men man

[mental delta]

It's the last specialist

[solar obsidian]

its a design choice in the end,
and all this bug budget titles are not gonna throw out a huge part of the player base by making it frustrating for them to play

[wild marlin]

exclusive"finger in 👄" execution 🥵🥵

[willow sky]

I will argue that, good.

[torpid wadi]

Ah we aint getting anymore after them?

[solar obsidian]

whole reason goldeneye and halo broke through as proper console shooters, because of clever aim assistance

[chilly dove]

Oh I know why they do it, it's called spineless pandering for moolah

[wild marlin]

I personally disagree 😤🎲😤

[willow sky]

now you have an excuse to play recon XD

[wild marlin]

bruh but the soflam and prox sensor is a thing

[mental delta]

Nope 14 is max, anyway there will probably not be a lot of content after season 5, maybe a season 6 but after that it's probably over

[wild marlin]

literally make way more sense for recon to have any of those 2 constantly

14 specialist cringe 😬😬😬

[solar obsidian]

sitting here in a small discord and talk that amount of trash behind the back of other players,

meanwhile you are calling them spineless

[chilly dove]

My thing about auto aim is that it's anti competitive. If you really care about being good, you'll realise how bad you are and start from there.

[willow sky]

yeah i would prefer a perma soflam

[wild marlin]

16 specialist based 😎😎😎

[chilly dove]

now hold on just a minute lol

[wild marlin]

objectively correct opinion right here 🙏😎🙏🙏🥑🥑🎲🎲🎲

[solar obsidian]

battlefield is barely a competitive game these days,
players are here to have fun with the moment to moment gameplay in the matches

[spiral folio]

My prediction is the last recon added willlllll be awful

[solar obsidian]

we talk about sbmm in battlefield and the majority are against it, same as me

[spiral folio]

It wont be a sniper

The devs clearly hate snipers

[wild marlin]

wtf is sbmm

[solar obsidian]

skill based matchmaking

just trying to make the match as even as possible

[spiral folio]

Super brothers: mario

[chilly dove]

You seem offended that i'm calling out console gamers who partake in the pandering offered to them lol

[spiral folio]

Mario?

[solar obsidian]

no im not offended, im just trying to give some perspective of the stuff you shout out

[chilly dove]

infact to be more specific I'll say controller gamers

[wild marlin]

oh that, yeah it's shit get rid of it

let the 20kd players play with the negative feeders

[torpid wadi]

Man i just checked the notes, surprised that support doesnt get an lmg proficiency

[spiral folio]

Id just about bet the new recons special is melee

That's how much they hate snipers

[chilly dove]

@solar obsidian if you really want though, I can write a script that enables mouse users to make use of controller auto aim snap assist on PC to "even" the playing field rofl.

[wild marlin]

ong, but maybe it'll change idk. like I get why it's SMG tho, cuz rn supports literally frontline w assaults

[torpid wadi]

Aye i definitely understand it, just surprised cause support has always been the lmg guys

[chilly dove]

jk i won't do that ever

(but others probably already have)

[torpid wadi]

Guess i will be using the aks-74u more often when the update drops

[solar obsidian]

making that script and using it is against tos, dont even know why your idea is suddenly cheating

using aim assistance on console are not against tos

[wild marlin]

luckily they aren't locking weapons so larpers are still happy 😁😁

[mental delta]

It's dumb, why giving LMGs to engineer

[wild marlin]

^^^

[torpid wadi]

Hell yeah im glad weapons arent fixed to classes

[wild marlin]

utility weapons w better reload so much bettter

[drowsy shuttle]

Gives us 3.2 already, Dice.
Life is too short.

[mental delta]

Ok now predictions on next vault weapons ?

[wild marlin]

bro they better add the m98B

[torpid wadi]

Hmm good question

[solar obsidian]

ac-130

[knotty charm]

Sniper

[torpid wadi]

I cant quite remember all the guns in portal

[spiral folio]

The class nerf puts engineers in the utility weapons

[mental delta]

Wut ?

[solar obsidian]

i want that back from bf4

[spiral folio]

Stop going by old data mines

Theyre obsolete

[mental delta]

A new one so ?

[knotty charm]

Nah I gues a bf4 one

[spiral folio]

M95 maybe

[chilly dove]

it was a joke lol. Obviously I'm not going to do it, but if you think about it, the state of cross play and controller aim vs PC aim is officially at this point "we'll give a handicap to controller people". Obviously I don't care all, but I do find it funny that the likes of you would be offended when presented with this reality lol

[mental delta]

The intervention-like sniper I don't recall the name

[spiral folio]

Maybe cause... they hate snipers so maybe not

[torpid wadi]

Hope they bring the SVD

[spiral folio]

The m36 is being added supposedly

Its a marksman rifle not a snipey snipey rifle

Semi auto med-close range

[drowsy shuttle]

**Recon + Sniper Rifles: Immediate, constant and steady scope ** oh boy oh boy lol ... finger licking good

[wild marlin]

AEK????

[knotty charm]

Iether 388 recon or the srr-61

[arctic grove]

i hope they add the XM8 AR

[torpid wadi]

Gimme g3

[chilly dove]

so i'm definitely going to shit on 100% of all console players who use aim assist of any sort.

yall suck get over it.

[spiral folio]

Incorrect old info stop going by data mines

[solar obsidian]

no reason to talk to somehow who starts to think his own reality

[mental delta]

Hourglass

[torpid wadi]

I could see the an94 being added

[spiral folio]

Recon gets
"Longer hold breath" not infinite

[wild marlin]

me when engineers can't reload shotguns faster 😬😬😬😬😬

[drowsy shuttle]

conquest or BT? if its conquest then its hands down hourglass... BT... humm... maybe hourglass too (if you're not sniping)

[chilly dove]

because i've seen people who don't use aim assist on controller and they're great. so props to them

[drowsy shuttle]

dude its on EA website on the blog post they released today... what you talking about?

[mental delta]

There are thousands of us comrade, Hourglass should be hated by everybody

[spiral folio]

Is it i thought EA said "longer" in the last official post

[arctic grove]

but,but my spice

[drowsy shuttle]

na, i literally copy and paste their text... got me really excited lol

[spiral folio]

I just never trust anything

[chilly dove]

mouse and controller players without aim assist in the drop top, double caked up on a thursday night.

[drowsy shuttle]

https://www.ea.com/games/battlefield/battlefield-2042/news/dev-notes-classes-in-battlefield-2042

[arctic grove]

why is Hourglass hated btw im guessing map layout?

[chilly dove]

all my homies hate aim assist

[mental delta]

Sorry for your spice but Hourglass shouldn't exist

[chilly dove]

this you? lmao

[drowsy shuttle]

too big, lack of cover.. if you have to walk you're screwed

[mental delta]

Yeah the design is so fucking bad, everytime I get on it I leave instantly

[arctic grove]

ahhh ya fair

[drowsy shuttle]

but i like hourglass a lot.. can't wait for the rework... i believe with rework it will jump to be one of the best maps

at least i wanna believe that

[chilly jacinth]

cope

[wild marlin]

hourglass should have like 3 times the amount of tall buildings

like that was literally what the trailer was showcasing

imagine like having chopper dogfights in between buildings

[chilly dove]

but as I said, controller aim is definitely something people can learn without aim assist. It's harder, and it will never be as good as mouse (JOIN USSSSSSSSSSS) but once you master raw input controller aim you'll enjoy the grind of out performing those who rely on aim assist. I rarely ever play console shooters, but when I do, no aim assist and it's great. Takes a while to get the settings down pat and the fact that it's harder actually makes the shooters more challenging

[spiral folio]

Yea that is weird they went back to the data mined shit instead of the announcement?

[wild marlin]

like in the trailer 😤😤😤

[spiral folio]

Its stupid to give engineers lmgs

Makes sense for support

[wild marlin]

ONG 🙏🙏🙏🙏

[knotty charm]

agreed

[wild marlin]

make them revert that shit

[drowsy shuttle]

well, any class can pick any type of weapon so...

[wild marlin]

Utility reload speed ftw

[spiral folio]

If you asked for classes
You deserve this

Thats all

[drowsy shuttle]

thats why for me its only semi-return of the class system and not full return of class system with weapons restriction like in BF V for example

[wild marlin]

like Mackay snipers aren't going anywhere

Paik shotgunners aren't going anywhere

[chilly dove]

i think it'd be nice for games to have a no aim assist as an automatic check to drive away cry babies as a partial barrier . a good way to manage the ecosystem of the community

[drowsy shuttle]

im okay with mackay snipers... falck snipers however...

[spiral folio]

Well the scope steady wont work for the rail necessarily and non-recons can just bipod

[wild marlin]

I don't think I've ever seen one

like are they really so impatient to repeek that have to run a self healer

[drowsy shuttle]

i keep seeing them all the time lol falck and angels

[spiral folio]

A falk sniper can just heal after being hit so i get that. And falk can carry ammo

[wild marlin]

angel snipers I see a ton for whatever reason

[chilly dove]

they'll all come back to the game anyway when their friends tell them they're wimps / wusses for not playing big triple A popular game just because no aim assist. write this down EA staff, I'm only saying this once

[drowsy shuttle]

i see some zain's sniper too...

[spiral folio]

So i suspect youll see more falk snipers after class nerf

[wild marlin]

bruh class nerf ☠️☠️

[spiral folio]

If something is removed and restricted its a nerf

[chilly dove]

Zain has lifesteal right?

[wild marlin]

regen after kill

[knotty charm]

'heal when gets kill

[drowsy shuttle]

when you get a kill it starts to regenerate faster

[spiral folio]

Weird

[dusk forum]

Yeah

Zain is also gonna get med pens permanently so that’s gonna be fun

[unreal smelt]

What are the best gun/ character combos

[chilly dove]

yeah that's a form of lifesteal imo. I wonder what the in universe lore explanation is for that lmao

[dusk forum]

Paik and shotguns in CQC

[calm bison]

Mackay + literally anything full auto

[unreal smelt]

Also although I don’t play much, I tried out the new air burst and found it very underwhelming compared to others

[wild marlin]

mental gymnastics

[arctic grove]

wow so your an Elitist then, so what about the players that have a hard time with the game, say people with disabilities that want to play? saying something like this is not only bigot lvl but mean as well to thos who struggle.

[unreal smelt]

What maps are really close though

[drowsy shuttle]

weapon is BSV, best overall weapon in the game... you can use with any specialist... but sundance or mackay is good... get behind enemy lines or get a good flank.. and its kill kill kill

[wild marlin]

imagine having a dmr and SMG in 1 gun

full automatic dmr

[drowsy shuttle]

what shotgun? 12 auto? you'll be dead by my arrow from ghostmaker before you have time to hit the shoot button

[dusk forum]

Rorsch appears

[unreal smelt]

Thoughts on the m416

[dusk forum]

It works

[wild marlin]

fat crutch ngl

[drowsy shuttle]

exactly lol its so good that i don't even play with it... its cheesy

[unreal smelt]

Portal weapons are kinda ass

[dusk forum]

Still a member of squad 40-

Wait never mind

[unreal smelt]

The spread while moving is extreme

[wild marlin]

I literally need to remind myself to use it more cuz it rocks

but chasing those other T1s 😤😤😤😤

[dusk forum]

M16 is good

Or maybe I’m just a dumbass

[wild marlin]

it's fine

not crazy not bad

[chilly dove]

Excuse you, calling me a bigot is quite the stretch. Accessibility options should always be a part of the game, and if people have disabilities I think there are 3rd party options that allow said people to play games easier. Also, your comment makes it seem as if the PC as a whole, or as if the mouse and keyboard as an input system is entirely against gamers with disabilities. kindly G.F.Y.

[unreal smelt]

It’s worse then the m416 I think

[drowsy shuttle]

i don't like vault weapons with the exception of the gol... cause they feel weird.. its like they got photshopped into the game... i dunno how to explain better

[wild marlin]

I'm so pressed about these changes bruh 😭😭😭😭

[stoic ferry]

is there a way to change team in portal game?

[unreal smelt]

The only way I would play then over a 2042 gun is the gernade launcher

The portal one has 3x the range and accuracy it seems

[wild marlin]

vault weapons are weak because they don't customize the same

[knotty charm]

would be bnice if they have the same att unlocks

[wild marlin]

you can turn your m5A3 into an SMG, assault rifle, or pseudo DMR

[drowsy shuttle]

yeah m5 never lets you down

[wild marlin]

you're M16 or m416 is always gonna be an AR

you can't make it better at close or long range w attachments

[chilly dove]

There are ways to make games easier for people with disabilities that don't involve giving everyone the immediate option to have 100% perfect aim. Sheesh. There are even options built into windows for accessibility for gaming. There are 3rd party tracking programs that can help and game developers imo should be supporting them instead of the current aim assist route. Just my opinion. And there are many different kinds of input methods and many kinds of mice

[arctic grove]

for one, i am disabled, and i stand up for thos who struggle in life, calling people wusses and cry babies show you have no repect for thos who struggle so ima move on and just block you before this dissolves into a argument.

[solid imp]

This isn't going to be solved here

[dusk forum]

Gamers when there’s optinal accessibility options

[knotty charm]

agreed

[drowsy shuttle]

imma gonna be controversial... i rather have less weapons but weapons that were actually made for AoW 2042 than more vault weapons from other BF's.... quality > quantity

[dusk forum]

Same tbh

I don’t mind the vault weapons

Just wish there was less

[wild marlin]

idk man I like just having the option

[chilly dove]

Doesn't change the fact that there ARE actually people who don't need the handicap and could easily learn to play said game without ridiculous aim assist features. Boiling it down to this idea that the only way to improve ones aim is with an aim assist feature ignores the fact that i literally said the mouse is easier than controller. and there are even input methods eaiser than the mouse.

[calm bison]

But why

[dusk forum]

I’d rather have like, 4 vault weapons each supporting 2042 attachments with proper mastery then get like 10

[dusk forum]

Bloat ig

[wild marlin]

it's better to have it and not need it, then to need it and not have it 😉

[chilly dove]

that person made an offense out of no where, I never said anything against people with disabilities. talk about putting words in my mouth

[solid imp]

We can all move on from it

[knotty charm]

why not give us the barret MRAD 🫡

[drowsy shuttle]

that i would be ok with...

[arctic grove]

i havent touched BC2 weapons in years i hope they add more

[clever marlin]

the Xm8 is a broken lmg

[arctic grove]

how?

[clever marlin]

like its shockingly powerful

[arctic grove]

that just means who ever using it is good with it

[calm bison]

Still waiting for my MG3

[clever marlin]

i just want the F2000 😦

[knotty charm]

and if they do make new weps plz also make the H&K G28

[wild marlin]

you mean it's got a good damage model, next to no recoil, good sights and a 100 round mag?

cuz that's called balanced

[chilly dove]

there's 3D mice, tobii eye tracking technology, touch screen input. stylus + pad input (also more accurate than a controller and mouse depending on setup), gaming gloves, wands, light guns (& laser pointers), just to name a few. PC as a platform supports accessibility gaming more than all consoles combined.

[wild marlin]

you think you can't achieve the same results maybe even better results with the lcmg or avancys?

[dusk forum]

As long as I get my M16 I’m happy tbh

[calm bison]

I would love to also see the AWM in AoW

[wild marlin]

BRUH AWS needs to be added

ong

I miss that gun so much

[calm bison]

AWS Lmg or sniper?

[wild marlin]

lmg

[calm bison]

Ok good

[wild marlin]

literally assault rifle lmg hybrid

that thing was fucking nuts

[radiant prism]

M16 good :)

[calm bison]

Alright given that 2042 is doing well

And S4 is going to likely pave a better path for the game

How likely is it that DICE will introduce a 4.2 patch that fucks up the TTK

[chilly jacinth]

0 chance

[dusk forum]

https://www.ea.com/games/battlefield/battlefield-2042/news/battlefield-2042-update-notes-3-2

FELLAS

FELLAS

TOMORROW

[clever marlin]

we know

also that is a very short update list for an update that is supposed to change breakaway but is not even mentioned

i dont think thats all correct

[calm bison]

Yeah that’s not it man

[chilly jacinth]

thats 0.3.2

[calm bison]

This update is part of our continued commitment to address your feedback related to resolving bugs and improving gameplay. Currently scheduled for February, we’ll follow-up with another update focused on Quality of Life improvements. This will also include enhancements to the Scoreboard, which you can learn more about here.

[clever marlin]

i really hope that they have some fixes to cpu optimization in 3.2

[drowsy shuttle]

tomorrow? fuck yeah!

[clever marlin]

but yeah, the update is tommorow

i believe

[calm bison]

That’s not the update

[clever marlin]

either that or next tuesday

[spiral folio]

I hope they resolve this planned bug to bring classes back

[calm bison]

Look at the patch notes for patch 3.1.2

It says

[spiral folio]

[calm bison]

3.1.2

The notes here read 0.3.2

This ain’t in chief

[pine roost]

i fell for it again

[spiral folio]

3.1.2.b.2

[drowsy shuttle]

dudes....

[calm bison]

We’ve been bamboozled

@dusk forum you lied to us

Have you not anything to say for your misdeeds

[clever marlin]

we likely will get patch notes either later today or tommorow around 10pm est

[calm bison]

turns into guard from Oblivion

[drowsy shuttle]

hammer ban!

(im joking)

[drowsy shuttle]

na, if its next tuesday (24) patch notes will be released on monday

[calm bison]

That will likely be it

[royal swan]

WHAT THE FUCK, OH YEEEEEEEEE

[drowsy shuttle]

but i have the feeling will be january 31 (last tuesday of the month)

[calm bison]

Patches usually come out on Tuesday or Thursday

[royal swan]

I GOT NO COLLEGE TOMORROW

[unreal smelt]

I like some of the vault attachments more

[drowsy shuttle]

it was false alarm

[unreal smelt]

Such as the gl and holo scope

[pine roost]

another one has fallen for it

[royal swan]

Mf

[calm bison]

I read those patch notes and when I saw a mention to the scoreboard I knew something was up

[pine roost]

[calm bison]

Then I saw an update regarding people on ladders flying and realized this was something entirely different

[clever marlin]

thats actually a funny bug

[calm bison]

Except that hasn’t been in the game since February 2022

Also BFV turns 5 years old this year

[median tusk]

already?

[calm bison]

Yep

[median tusk]

man i remember watchin the reveal trailer 😭

[calm bison]

So do I

2042 will also be turning 2 this year

And BF4 will be turning 10

[median tusk]

time flies

one standard gadget and one specialist gadget

yep

[calm bison]

Actually no

Repair tool is a base gadget for engineer

You will always have it equipped

[twin ledge]

Does Lis rocket explode if you exit it?

[clever marlin]

everyone gets a repair tool as an engineer

but for the rest is a bit different

[pine roost]

lis will still only be able to use her default rocket

[clever marlin]

with the exception of lis, yes

[spiral folio]

The Lis rocket keeps going til it runs out im pretty sure

[clever marlin]

yes

[pine roost]

indeed

[clever marlin]

so no recoilless or AA

im a bot confused by the support role though

[radiant prism]

I hope they do something with his turret

Because Boris is damn near useless right now

[pine roost]

delete it

rework him

[radiant prism]

Anti vehicle turret?

[pine roost]

obviously the turret just won't work

[solid imp]

Either give him a + menu for his turret, allow him to convert his turret to a mortar, or make the mortar an option in the + menu

[spiral folio]

Support should have the lmg i really dont get that

[clever marlin]

the sam turret idea isnt bad

[pine roost]

auto aiming / spotting turrets just aren't fun to use or play against

[clever marlin]

could be a good anti transport option

[spiral folio]

Recons only get the worst specialists so yes

[radiant prism]

Keep in mind support is both "support" and medic. Its like BFV's medic class in a way

Rao is gonna be interesting

[clever marlin]

his turret should be able to be controlled remotely

[spiral folio]

All recon specialists are weirdly short range specials

[radiant prism]

I know they were talking about refocusing Rao to being more anti vehicle since thats how most people use him

[chilly dove]

TOW Missile or the top option. Everything else moot. What can't TOW Missile do? It can even pick your kid up from school

[calm bison]

I wonder who the specialist for Eleventh Hour will be

[spiral folio]

Support makes way more sense as lmg as per like
Fire support

Smgs make more sense for engineers because they carry giant rocket launchers a lot

[clever marlin]

one of my theories is Dima

but its unlikely

[pine roost]

mixing medic and ammo carrier into one class kind of messes with what weapon they'd be best equipped with

[clever marlin]

or recker

[solid imp]

it was easier to sort out when assault was medic

[knotty charm]

is it possible they wil rlly bring back the M39EMR

[clever marlin]

but thats unlikely as we are recieveing a recon

[calm bison]

It won’t be Hale as confirmed by temporyal

[pine roost]

in this instance an smg makes more sense since healing is the forefront, and in that ideal team structure you'd want them in that position

[chilly dove]

TOW missile can make dinner, do your laundry, put your kids to bed and still have time to take out that pesky stealth chopper

[clever marlin]

4 recons, 4 assault, 3 engineers and 3 support

[calm bison]

Three engineers

Three supports

Four assaults

Four recons

[spiral folio]

A TOW is the most basic and dumbest of guided munitions

Like its barely guided

It isnt even wireless

[clever marlin]

we know its going to be a recon

[calm bison]

The TOW was cool in BF4

[royal swan]

Temporary was right about the proficiency change, eat shit to the person who told me it was oLd NeWs

[clever marlin]

actually

[calm bison]

Hitting jets and choppers with it was fun

[pine roost]

can't believe a missile is still using ethernet

[calm bison]

What Lis has is a TV missile

[clever marlin]

what if the new map is going to be france from bf3s campaign

[spiral folio]

EA contradicted themselves 3 times in it so

[calm bison]

It won’t

[knotty charm]

thats a long ass w lan cable boy XD

[chilly dove]

It's pretty reliable and accurate though. And the 2042 version is grrrrrrreat

[calm bison]

Concept art has already been shown

[clever marlin]

where

[royal swan]

?

[calm bison]

The S4 map is more like operation firestorm

[median tusk]

france was leveled by a nuke in bf3, having it in bf2042 makes no sense (the timeline is connected)

[solid imp]

• some underground stuff

[radiant prism]

Most underused plot point in BF tbh

[clever marlin]

as long as its not gulf of oman

[chilly dove]

some of paris was leveled by a small yield nuclear weapon. not "France" lol

[radiant prism]

Paris just kinda got nuked and then it never got brought up again

[clever marlin]

i wish the bf3 story makes more nods in 2042

[calm bison]

S5 will most likely be in the same part of the world as Zavod 311

They said it’s a region shown in BF4

Not a BF4 map

[chilly dove]

maybe dice just doesn't like paris

[radiant prism]

But dima ded

:(

[calm bison]

No one likes Paris

[spiral folio]

Depends if bf3 is canonical

[calm bison]

Except Germany

[spiral folio]

Or if BF has a continuous plot

[chilly dove]

Nice projection

[calm bison]

Irish literally said “Russian dudes dead” in BF4

[clever marlin]

my predictions are either recker or dima

[spiral folio]

In the BF timeline the char 2C EVER saw combat so

[calm bison]

I imagine they checked his pulse

[clever marlin]

remember that thing with marvel movies: if they dont show hes dead, hes not dead?

[spiral folio]

Closest the char 2c got to combat was germany using them for target practice

[calm bison]

I don’t think it’ll be Recker but it would be nice to see him in the story somehow

[calm bison]

Also good old propaganda footage

[clever marlin]

would it be funny recker would be the announcer for the US military faction

[elfin void]

Does anyone know if Assault will have access to C5

[calm bison]

Possible but we have nothing to base it off given how the only word Recker says is “fuck” in a whisper voice

[radiant prism]

I don't think so actually?

I think its Recon and Engineer that are getting C5

[spiral folio]

One theory is russia took the last intact 2C and it's in some hiddem warehouse now

[elfin void]

Then what does Assault get

Med pen only?

[spiral folio]

More ammo

[elfin void]

..

Not what i meant

[calm bison]

Champagne, is the name correct?

[spiral folio]

Not sure

[radiant prism]

Smoke launcher, claymore...I can't remember the full list but med pen is on there too

[spiral folio]

But they probably figure france would want it back

[calm bison]

Russia is not likely to give anything back to their respective countries nowadays

[radiant prism]

I'm trying to find the list

[chilly dove]

i can't comprehend half these changes. it's all so arbitrary. they changed how classes work in every game.

[elfin void]

Crates go to support 100%

[calm bison]

I would like to buy their Sturer Emil tho

[elfin void]

Launchers + repair tool for engi

beacon to recon

[radiant prism]

SOFLAM, beacon, C5 for recon

[spiral folio]

Nations give back old tanks as weird like tokens of friendship. Turkey gave back an old M4 and its at fort lewis now cause ??

[clever marlin]

oh and motion sensors are recon exclusive now

[elfin void]

but C5 to recon makes less than 0 sense

[radiant prism]

I mean thats how it was in BF4

[calm bison]

Russia when the 5000th T-34 is uncovered: RESTORE IT

Russia when some tank from another country is uncovered: Gut it and leave it for scrap

[chilly dove]

they were like c4 was support in 3, c4 for recon in BF4 lol

[radiant prism]

Also Engineer appears to be getting C5

There's gonna be a bit of overlap

As far as I can tell

Like the article specifically mentions engi will have C5

[knotty charm]

i can get why recon gets c5 if the recon uses dmr he can be in the zone to help destroy vehicles

[radiant prism]

Also its probably just a good idea to give recon some kind of AT capability lol

[chilly dove]

and clearly the only reason they did that was to give recon reasons to go in, despite scouting and sniping being their original purpose.

[knotty charm]

jup had that happen alot in bf4 ..me thinking head forr the hills a tank cmoin yall

[calm bison]

One day Tiger 131 and Tiger 233 will be in the same room together

[eager spire]

Oh, so apparently all the new weapons as well as the new sights for the Thompson are just blatantly not centered on the screen

How does that happen

[radiant prism]

A junkyard, probably

[calm bison]

Unlikely

[dapper river]

Loadouts are getting reset??? no.... this cannot be... this is a travesty worse than Anthem or that time they released Driver 3...... this cannot be!

[calm bison]

These last working tiger tanks are too darn good to leave in a junkyard

[knotty charm]

forr me recon is not only that but also covering on advantage points to help the team mates get to where they want and give supressive fire

[chilly dove]

specialists after balancing work so well. Just give us the option to disable classes entirely in portal

[calm bison]

Hell you’d be more likely to find the missing E100 hull before those things go for scrap

[dapper river]

*vantage points

[knotty charm]

silenced dmr with a lower magnification scope and cablam hello undercover

[chilly dove]

don't worry, earlier i mistyped mouth instead of mouse

[spiral folio]

Can recons use the c5 to fly to high up areas to snipe from like bf heroes

[chilly dove]

lol

[spiral folio]

They always try to give like a ton of things to recons to make em front liners

[radiant prism]

Where's that preliminary list of class gadgets?

I know theres a list somewhere

[dapper river]

https://www.ea.com/en-gb/games/battlefield/battlefield-2042/community/battlefield-core-feedback-specialists
But of course this could change at launch, this is from August

[spiral folio]

Just pick the worst casting you can imagine and that's it

[radiant prism]

Thank you

[knotty charm]

well tbh irl recon squads get a ton of shit to help iuf they get them selfs into the frontline of the enemy to help the other squads so i get that

[chilly dove]

I can only imagine how awkward the meetings where this is decided must be lmao

[spiral folio]

Nah real recon teams are also like nowhere near the enemy usually

[clever marlin]

i think instead of assaults getting more magazines, they can reload assault rifles 10% faster than other classes

[knotty charm]

srry to shatter ur dream

[spiral folio]

And their scopes have glare prevention measures

And they have more than 30 bullets

[chilly dove]

so many things in this game are designed to give the generic assault player an advantage. mackay moves quick left and right just because...

[knotty charm]

didnt they nerfed that

[spiral folio]

When they send a recon team out theyll have like a weeks worth of supplies too

And theyre not 50ft from the enemy

[dapper river]

yes finally, quickscoping will be real on Recon in 2023

[spiral folio]

Swear to god i hate this phones keyboard

[radiant prism]

Yeah I'm unsure what they mean by that with the scopes

[knotty charm]

a recon team can be in the middle of the battlezone cause they train to be multiple use

[chilly dove]

it's a passive that is in effect every gunfight. it's balanceable but then it gets to a point like "Why did they implement this?"

[radiant prism]

I think it might just be referring to stabilization

[chilly dove]

and then the answer becomes clear, EA didn't give them nearly enough time to work on something better.

[spiral folio]

This is also an incorrect evaluation. Because you're conflating unique instances with their general role

[chilly dove]

we could probably brainstorm a better passive for mackay right here in like 10 minutes

[spiral folio]

Real recons camo also actually works

[knotty charm]

so u did recon school ?

[spiral folio]

You did?

Or you saw a documentary once

[knotty charm]

nope my mate is in that branch

[spiral folio]

Branch

[dapper river]

Lis only gets 3 gadgets 💀

[spiral folio]

So like... the entire marines

[clever marlin]

yeah but those gadgets kind of make her OP

repair tool, mines AND a rocket launcher?

it basically makes the other engineers obsolete

breakthrough with this setup will basically make half the team run lis

[heavy loom]

im about to jump on if anyone wants to sqaud up

[radiant prism]

!!lfg

[tender pendant]

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[spiral folio]

The way the game equips recons or tries to, they want them to be saboteurs. Which the spotting mechanic and lack of real camo ability disallow

[dapper river]

I do like coordinating and getting a squad full of Lis as defender. We of course target all armor. There are no survivors.

[radiant prism]

The javelin tho

I for one am looking forward to using it

[spiral folio]

Long range sniping gets like... just a bipod and some scope options they heavily nerf with smoke trails and glint

And like 4 or 5 bullets. Dont spend em all in one place

[clever marlin]

is the javelin going to be a gadget?

or will it be a specialist thing

[radiant prism]

It seems so yes

Gadget

[spiral folio]

Itd have to

[wild marlin]

I wonder how it'll be different from m5 damage wise

[radiant prism]

I just want them to rework Boris

free my boy

[spiral folio]

I'd bet the jav will basically only fire with a lock

And only for ground

[radiant prism]

Yeah

[spiral folio]

Leaving the recoilless as more general purpose

[radiant prism]

I get direct impacted by the recoilless way too often

[mental delta]

We would like a new RPG

[radiant prism]

Like if there's one thing I'm good at its getting hit in the face with a recoilless

[spiral folio]

I had some jerk actually hit me from 500m with one once

Cant get too mad at that

Saw it comin like "no way that hits... ohSH

Barely had time to use my knife to deflect it

[mental delta]

I once shot a G-84 missile with sniper, I was pretty lucky lol

[calm bison]

Nothing is more brutal than headshotting a guy with a tank shell or chopper rocket

[mental delta]

Never happened to me with chopper rocket but a few times with tank shells

[calm bison]

One time in BFV I got a headshot kill with the 51D rockets

[radiant prism]

I got headshotted by tanks way too often in BFV

And that was unrevivable

[chilly dove]

TOW Missile from LCAA Hovercraft into an F-35 flying at full speed

[spiral folio]

My best chopper hit i killed the pilot of a hind on spearhead and it landed on top of a factory so they couldn't spawn another

[calm bison]

TOW missiles into any aerial target is just satisfying

[radiant prism]

I shot down a Hind with an M60 once

[calm bison]

I’ve shot more pilots out of their planes in BFV than in BF1

[spiral folio]

Well the most vulnerable pilot was the bf1 heavy bomber

Otherwise the engine protected the pilot generally

[calm bison]

I’ve shot down an Ilya Muromets with a lebel before

[spiral folio]

Bf1 heavy pilot 100% exposed

[calm bison]

Granted it was already damaged but I got the final shot

[spiral folio]

And the fueltank weak spot too

[radiant prism]

I shot down an Ilya Muromets with the 8.25 Extended once

Just pewpewpewpewpewpewpewpewpewpew until it died :)

[spiral folio]

So if you aimed generally the front of a heavy bomber youd kill either the pilot or keep hitting the fuel tanks or eventually wear it out

[calm bison]

I’m still like 90% the fuel tank stuff on the Ilya is just aesthetic

BF1 is 6 years old, with the TSAR DLC being 5 years old

[spiral folio]

I have old screenshots of hitting the fueltanks and it explodes

[calm bison]

Surely this would’ve made the rounds

[spiral folio]

People didnt try to do it

[calm bison]

Maybe so but how did you know to do it

And why isn’t this a feature in other games

[radiant prism]

I flew fighters in BF1 and peppered my fair share of heavy bombers, I'm pretty damn sure those tanks didn't explode

[spiral folio]

It took me forever to figure it out as it was and im pretty dedicated to shooting planes

[chilly dove]

I fired a tow from the hill at A1 on breakaway 128, hit jet near the sun at B1, and the dead pilot flew all the way through the air and landed right beside my hovercraft. on video.

[calm bison]

Yeah I’ve shot around there as well and they just keep tanking it

[spiral folio]

You had to use high-critical weapons like k bullets and the tank hunter

[calm bison]

But that’s such a tiny hitbox it may as well not even be a feature

[radiant prism]

That's not the tanks exploding, that's just bullets that did a ton of damage to planes lol

You can shoot down a BF1 fighter with two tank hunter rounds

[spiral folio]

It still worked

[calm bison]

And DICE is still known for giving you points for literally doing anything

[radiant prism]

What you did my friend was use an anti vehicle weapon to destroy vehicles lol

[calm bison]

I imagine they’d give you points for hitting a specific weak spot

[spiral folio]

If you did non pilot damage it would do like 20s and 30s to the heavy with the tank hunter

Incorrect

[radiant prism]

points for dying in battlefront 2 lol

[calm bison]

It’s…

It’s an AT rifle

That’s like hitting a guy with a 75mm gun and wondering why he turned into strawberry jam

Because it’s a goddamn 75mm gun

[spiral folio]

I've had 1 shot kills from 100% vs heavy bombers with the tank hunter. Theres only one way to do it because if you hit any other part it doesnt 100% them

[radiant prism]

The heavy bombers had a bugged hitbox where if you hit them head on it would do 2-3x damage

I did 80 damage with a fighter in one pass because I was head on with them

[calm bison]

Rockets in BFV did critical damage when they hit the front of the plane so that also may have something to do with it

[spiral folio]

Nobodys gonna try to replicate it and I'm the only person who ever tried it. I know some of the kills were to the side of those fueltanks

[tacit sorrel]

12 tickets left

[radiant prism]

They were probably at low health and you finished them off lmao

Fueltank or not

[spiral folio]

Nah i keep track of bombers really well since I'm on their asses constantly

[radiant prism]

Trust me, BF pilots look into every possible mechanic to figure out how to get more kills. I was around the community in that time, there was nothing about shooting down heavy bombers like that

[spiral folio]

The best one to test it on is mont grappa i think is the one

The mountain map

[calm bison]

But that implies you were in a plane if some dogfighting variety instead of hitting them with k bullets and tank shells

[radiant prism]

Plus the heavy bomber was so hated I'd be shocked if info like that wouldn't have been spread to every corner of the internet

[spiral folio]

Cause altitude gives you better trajectories

[calm bison]

Exactly

[spiral folio]

I try to!

[tacit sorrel]

Heavy bombers are pretty ridiculous if they have upgraded back mgs

[radiant prism]

BF1 bombers

[spiral folio]

And then people "naaaaaaaah naaah never work why would they give a huge vehicle a weakness"

[radiant prism]

That's not what we're saying though

lmao

[spiral folio]

And then NOBODY tries it

[calm bison]

People don’t believe you because this has had 5 years to make the rounds and only recently has it come up

[spiral folio]

That's why i tell people just aim near the front

5 years isnt a lot

[knotty charm]

forr a game yes

[spiral folio]

Zeldas houlihan room was kept secret longer than that

[calm bison]

Bruh people were able to figure out the peacekeeper Easter eggs in less than two months

How do you figure they wouldn’t be able to figure a weak spot for a plane

[spiral folio]

That was a literal trail of clues

[radiant prism]

A critical game mechanic would've been discovered even more quickly

Lmao

[calm bison]

Also DICE would’ve eluded to it

[spiral folio]

Go try it and prove me wrong then

[calm bison]

They always do

Alright

Challenge accepted

[radiant prism]

Why don't you prove it? Show us exactly what you're talking about

[calm bison]

Actually yeah

[radiant prism]

I'd believe you if you showed a clip

[spiral folio]

Cant lost screenshots?

[calm bison]

If you can show us a clip

Screenshots are pictures

Still frames

[spiral folio]

Yea

[calm bison]

Show video

[spiral folio]

And j cant post them

[radiant prism]

DM them to me and I'll post them

[calm bison]

Or just post the link

[spiral folio]

I think i have at least one on my pc

But I'll get it later when i get back

[calm bison]

Make sure to ping me when he posts this

[eager spire]

gonna need a time frame

gotta hold you accountable

[radiant prism]

Also I don't need clips, I've found some old subreddit posts

[spiral folio]

Lol yea i mean i usually get back home around 5 akk like 3 hours

[radiant prism]

https://www.reddit.com/r/battlefield_one/comments/76hqp7/russian_heavy_bomber_weak_spot/

Its that bug I was talking about on the front.

Its not the fuel tanks, its the bugged frontside hitbox

[spiral folio]

What specifically ls the bug

[radiant prism]

When a heavy bomber got hit from the front, the bullets could go through and hit multiple hitboxes

[calm bison]

That was supposedly patched but the heavy bomber may have been excluded

[spiral folio]

Would this bug also then work from the side?

Like it is wide af

I wish i saved clips of this stuff

[radiant prism]

Meaning when you hit it from the front with something like the tankgewehr, it would do that certified tankgewehr damage multiple times resulting in a potential OHK

[spiral folio]

That's possible for some of the long range TG shots i guess

[knotty charm]

looks to me someone should check the game files and see if if there is any mechanic related to that

[calm bison]

Again this would’ve surely made the rounds by now and more people would be aiming for those spots

[radiant prism]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d4VMU1H29EE

Here's a clip I found

[spiral folio]

I mean ideally youd have like... a stream of heavy bombers looping the hill aiming at only the tanks from the side

For systematic testing

[calm bison]

Eh maybe but he wasn’t the only one doing damage

[knotty charm]

jup

[spiral folio]

Yea like 3 MG guys could kill a heavy just shooting up at it

[radiant prism]

Maybe not but look at the damage numbers, he did around 80+ damage

[calm bison]

That too

[spiral folio]

That's why i say "if a heavy bomber reaches combat nobodys shooting it"

[radiant prism]

yeah it says +98 heavy bomber damaged

Point is

The "weak spot" exists, its just not necessarily the fuel tank lol

[spiral folio]

I can say i wish i had better proof cause one screenshot out of context isnt great

[spiral folio]

My thought is with that hitbox bug is it could apply sideways too

[knotty charm]

*shot on po ta to

[spiral folio]

Ie wings+core+far wing

[radiant prism]

Could be possible, Idk

I've only ever seen it from the front

[spiral folio]

I mean I'll show you the one i have -shrug-

But i couldnt tell ya the hp on that one

[radiant prism]

If you have it it should show the damage

[spiral folio]

Well i may have screenshotted the clip just before impact

Like to show somebody else forever ago

I have another where I'm like
"Shut up idiots any gun can shoot down a plane"
-kills plane-
"Eat it"

[calm bison]

[spiral folio]

With a sniper rifle

[knotty charm]

where is the clip

[spiral folio]

About 8 miles southwest

[tribal zenith]

so the class system update is going live tommorow? because there is no news about it

but someone said it is

[calm bison]

No

[spiral folio]

I think "soon" is the date they gave

[calm bison]

You’ve been duped

[wide shore]

They still haven’t announced a date even after the blog today

[radiant prism]

Probably next week

[ancient peak]

What are the go to attachments for LCMG

[knotty charm]

@ancient peak mine are shrt barrel high damage ammo and stub grip

[spiral folio]

Yea like expect it within a month but dont get your hopes up

[frail sparrow]

so end of the year? if we go by tank cosmetics "soon" level

[radiant prism]

Why is there so much doubt about this update lol

[spiral folio]

My hope is "sorry we cancel it. Bad idea."

[frail sparrow]

it's a revamp, ofc people panik

peopel don't like change, even if it's positive 😄

[radiant prism]

thats true

[spiral folio]

Just enjoy your freedom while you have it

Like any day could be your last