battlefield-2042

[spiral folio]

On the road. Awful

[solar obsidian]

thats such a bad take though,

thats trademark in most shooters we have anyways

[spiral folio]

I saw one get sideswiped on the highway

[drowsy shuttle]

my spider sense is tingling that 3.2 will be delayed

[spiral folio]

To shreds you say

[dusk forum]

Can we get more prosthetics DICE

[wet apex]

canonical explanation: all of 2042 is actually a simulation made by U.S and Russia as a massive 4d chess game

[solar obsidian]

and battlefield had very poor customisation in earlier games until they started monetize it

[hollow iris]

Phew good thing it was a joke that was a close one

[arctic grove]

so basically siege

[solar obsidian]

no problem mate

[hollow iris]

Of course that's why we don't see korea

[spiral folio]

That means we're playing a simulation of a simulation
[Whoaman.gif]

[upbeat sand]

Zain but instead of just his legs

He just has lawn mower feet

[dusk forum]

paik scream

[spiral folio]

Korea doesnt exist in 2042.
Just japan

[hollow iris]

Puddle

[wet apex]

Lowkey glad they removed voicelines from the characters post game

[dusk forum]

Someone on Reddit said Zain could always have a jump boost trait

[spiral folio]

Nah they rejoined imperial japan

[wet apex]

now it actually seems like its a war, not a video game

[dusk forum]

Tbh I didn’t mind them but I understand why they removed them

Tbh I like the start up lines at the least

[spiral folio]

North korea wont be decontaminated until 2100

[dusk forum]

The end match ones were bad but I do like the squad intro ones and such

[hollow iris]

I still hear voice lines just no stupid bullshit like in apex?

[wet apex]

The start lines are awesome, they're actually serious instead of "WeLl tHaT wAs fUn"

[dusk forum]

I hope they keep the squad overview before the Maych starts because it goes hard NGL

[upbeat sand]

POV: you didn't step up

[mental delta]

I prefered BFV customization, no specialists but you can have the face you want and custom your clothes

[dusk forum]

POV: you didn’t watch your back so you could gartunee you could come home

[arctic grove]

all my homies hate specialties

[hollow iris]

"Oh boy I did it again!" -dozer after accidentally firing into civilians

[wet apex]

that's true as well

[spiral folio]

I wish specialists and gadgets were separate

[dusk forum]

Don’t be sad, this is just how it works out sometimes!

[wet apex]

I wanna have a lis zooka as angel :troll :

[dusk forum]

[upbeat sand]

POV: you didn't come back but they did

[mental delta]

I wouldn't like an operators system like in COD too for example

[dusk forum]

Lis is so fucking hot

[umbral island]

Touch grass

[mental delta]

Just random lads fighting each other

[dusk forum]

I am a certified Lis simp

[wet apex]

💀

📸

[spiral folio]

Combine lis and angels ability and launch supply rockets? :v?

[mental delta]

You're certified creepy dude

[upbeat sand]

Dude

[wet apex]

Epic

[drowsy shuttle]

by a mile. altough bf5 was not great or perfect, was way better. in bf 2042 you basically can only change head or body

[spiral folio]

I have ammo here -shoopp- bam!

[wet apex]

Not that you need supplies cause 80% of your team charges in and dies before spending more than a mag 😭

[hollow iris]

Combine dozer and lis ability to hit people with my shield from across the map

[spiral folio]

That would be like the most op ammo delivery

[upbeat sand]

Lis was born in 2014

[mental delta]

Yup the fact you had 4 customization elements instead of 2 was completely better, most of the outfits were more immersive btw

[upbeat sand]

Lis is 9 in the current year

[spiral folio]

Ask for ammo youll have it in 2seconds

[hollow iris]

Man where is that sniper shooting from!

[upbeat sand]

Actually 8

[solar obsidian]

take a seat

[wet apex]

oh THATS why the Notepads say cringy outro lines

[spiral folio]

Sniper asks for ammo but youre on the front line

[wet apex]

they grew up playing fortnite

[upbeat sand]

BIRTHDATE: May 9th, 2014

[spiral folio]

450m ammo box delivery

[dusk forum]

Dude really pulled out the steadfast reckoning page

[hollow iris]

If only we could find that sniper! nasa landing sequence

[dusk forum]

Can’t belive Paik and Kalidescope take place in Japan

[upbeat sand]

I'll get the dark market one

[dusk forum]

And not South Korea

[hollow iris]

Which is now a puddle

[wet apex]

I'm gonna join a random squad when I get home

[spiral folio]

Launch one of those liberators from fallout 76

[wet apex]

I need to play with people that appreciate this damn game

Battlefield players on their way to fix their marriage with a blowtorch:

🏃‍♂️

[upbeat sand]

Dang Zain is 2018

Zain is 5 rn

[dusk forum]

“Can you fix it?”
“What, my marriage?”
“No, the game.”

[hollow iris]

I swear if I get another gunner who shoots 16 shots and hits nothing

[dusk forum]

Actully who’s older

Irish or Falck

[wet apex]

you see I won't gun for you

I'll just stand on top of the tank and heal you as liz

[quiet shell]

Irish is older, he's like 54 I think

Falck is in her late 30s

[dusk forum]

Dude looks like he’s fucking 60

[spiral folio]

Lis + Falk for mass healing rockets?

[upbeat sand]

We don't have falk's age but Irish is 1987

[arctic grove]

He doesn't tho

[wet apex]

Zain is cranking 90s rn

[dusk forum]

Irish is 55

[upbeat sand]

Yeah he's 54

[dusk forum]

Damn

[arctic grove]

How old is falck in current year?

[dusk forum]

Or 54

[stiff pollen]

Atleast 4

[dusk forum]

Probaly like same age as Irish

[upbeat sand]

We don't have a year

[dusk forum]

Oh wait rn

Uh

[upbeat sand]

Conformed

[dusk forum]

Probaly 30s or some shit

[arctic grove]

She's 30? Zamn

[upbeat sand]

We only have the years of the 3 season specialists and Irish

[arctic grove]

I'd hit

[dusk forum]

The fact Crawford was born in-

[arctic grove]

Even in her 2042 years

[arctic grove]

Dat ass

[dusk forum]

Congrats, you killed chat

[arctic grove]

I do that a lot

[quiet shell]

I believe sundance is 3 years old rn

[spiral folio]

I mean 20-30 is like average for military

[dusk forum]

Fuck Crawford was born in 02?

[upbeat sand]

How old is dozer

Since he has a family

[dusk forum]

Probaly like

30 or some shut

Shit

Most of the exodus are like, Gen Z or Alpha most likely

Oldest are likely Falck and Irish and maybe Boris being Milenials or some shit

[upbeat sand]

That reminds me

Gen z shrek jokes will be seen as dad jokes 1 day

[dusk forum]

Oh shit

[arctic grove]

No they won't

[upbeat sand]

Donkey

I'm getting old

[dusk forum]

Zain was born in 2018

[upbeat sand]

Genz ended ages ago

[dusk forum]

He could cannoniclly have been getting Dubs in fortnite and warzone

[arctic grove]

What about mackay

[upbeat sand]

It's like gen alpha or something

[dusk forum]

Zain js Alpha

[arctic grove]

[quiet shell]

MacKay is mid-30s I believe

[dusk forum]

Probaly 30s

[low timber]

Who’s the youngest?

[spiral folio]

Irish as he rams a door open should say like
"Som.... BODY once told me!"

[dusk forum]

Zains actully probaly the youngest specialist

[arctic grove]

Mackay looked 27 ish before his makeover

[dusk forum]

He’s 24

[upbeat sand]

Zain is currently 24

Now Crawford

[arctic grove]

"Ohh, I'm as shocked as you"

[upbeat sand]

He's gen z

[dusk forum]

Is 40

Yeah

[upbeat sand]

Crawford is 2002

[dusk forum]

Fuck this game makes me feel old

[frigid violet]

dude, same

[upbeat sand]

All the humour in the current day will be replaced 1 day

[arctic grove]

This game makes me feel

[spiral folio]

It really makes more sense for most of the fighters in 2042 to be young people since military is a young persons game

[upbeat sand]

And will be seen as for old people

[dusk forum]

Im gonna be in my 30s and shit by the year 2042

[arctic grove]

and bad dialogue

[upbeat sand]

Just remember

Amogus

Will become a old persons joke

[spiral folio]

People in their 50s 60s fighting... aha.. right ok

[arctic grove]

Russia moment

[spiral folio]

"One sec my hip is on the fritz again"

-self injects -

[solar obsidian]

russia be like "you handle potato you handle grenade"

[spiral folio]

Literally how CoD2 starts

[solar obsidian]

never forget that cod 2 introduction

yes

[spiral folio]

If you throw a potato at an enemy they go "WAS KARTOFELN?!"

[solar obsidian]

people talk about how old they feel

[arctic grove]

I hope I'm not eligible for conscription in 2 years 🙂

remember when health didn't regenerate

[dusk forum]

BFV

[arctic grove]

??

[dusk forum]

Attrition

Health didn’t fully recover

[arctic grove]

Titanfall

Reference

[spiral folio]

In old games thered be health packs just sitting on the ground

[solar obsidian]

znath gets it

[arctic grove]

never experienced it

or I didn't notice it

[spiral folio]

Halo was like the last holdout of powerups sitting around

[arctic grove]

because GAME IS DEAD

Where is veteran from bff

[solar obsidian]

and even that game had a regeneration healthbar

[arctic grove]

Sticker

[upbeat sand]

I just changed Angel's quote on the wiki to "beacons hot, I'm ready"

[solar obsidian]

it was the game to start that trend

cod just massively increased the popularity of it with cod 2

[red lion]

I jumped into bf2042 yesterday for the first time in months and actually had a very good time

surprised to say the least tbh

[upbeat sand]

Is it me

Or do the 1942 ai feel harder

[spiral folio]

Medal of honor rising sun was healthpack era. You could have 10 players at a time so i would set up battles with 9 ai's for fun and do like hostage situations

[arctic grove]

do they not look up randomly

and enemies often come rushing towards you

[spiral folio]

Even the good bots werent great

[upbeat sand]

No

[arctic grove]

really?

[upbeat sand]

I've been 1 shot a few times

[arctic grove]

in 2 and 2142

they often do that

[upbeat sand]

When they have rpgs

[arctic grove]

My favorite angels quote is "Boy, that was worse than the time I had to not smile for 20 minutes" followed by a cutaway gag

[upbeat sand]

And snipers

[arctic grove]

I do have bots mod for 2 nd 2142

[upbeat sand]

Angel griffin

[arctic grove]

pretty good upgrade

[dusk forum]

I just got reminded of the time I used the PKB meta

Dark times indeed

[dusk forum]

“Petah, I can’t belive you joined the non patriated!”

[solar obsidian]

i remember times when consoles where great systems

with there own unique strengths

[upbeat sand]

"Boy this is worst than the time I was drafted into Afghanistan"

[dusk forum]

I love how the non pateiated some how have a

ID card system set up

Via skillsharw

[upbeat sand]

Pac was 49 before being gunned down by a pre nerf condor

[solar obsidian]

pre nerf condor

[arctic grove]

For some reason Pacs death looked stupid as shit

[solar obsidian]

ram everything and survive

[dusk forum]

How the fuck did those pre nerf condors not sink the exodus

[arctic grove]

Like he just had a soulless face

While he's being gunned down

[upbeat sand]

They had the 40mm launcher

That's how

[arctic grove]

And it was very anticlimactic

[dusk forum]

Understandable

[upbeat sand]

Forgot to equip the 50

[dusk forum]

Common Oz L

[upbeat sand]

Oz forgot to change his load out

[arctic grove]

I still can't figure out who's Oz

Is he even in the game

[upbeat sand]

Well that's th e point

[arctic grove]

No I mean like

[cunning stratus]

hello

[arctic grove]

Is he a Commander in the game

[upbeat sand]

Pac has an offical blood type and it's A+

[cunning stratus]

just ask is pc and xbox crossplay?

[arctic grove]

Only if it's series xs

[cunning stratus]

oh

[upbeat sand]

He's some kind of leader for the biggest nation of nopats

The exodus in lore is teeny tiny

[solar obsidian]

there is lore ?

[upbeat sand]

It's just Irish and the others

[arctic grove]

Duh

[upbeat sand]

Did you not watch the exodus short film

[solar obsidian]

when did it release ?

[dusk forum]

Like

September

[upbeat sand]

Irish's small group of nopats have an agreement with the us military as well

[dusk forum]

Or august

Of 2021

[upbeat sand]

Prelaunch

[dusk forum]

Probaly won’t last long considering Wolff wants the exodus gone now

[arctic grove]

Do you think the lore would be any different, had the Irishs VA not died

[solar obsidian]

if i watched a shortfilm for a game that was not out yet?

[dusk forum]

Yeah probaly

[upbeat sand]

Thanks Zain

[solar obsidian]

nope, i actually dont really dig into pre release stuff

[dusk forum]

Zain explaing to the exodus how how Oz, who litteaely tried to kill Irish’s son is not a bad guy:

[solar obsidian]

did not even notice irish was the same from bf4, before the whole attention went on the actors death

[arctic grove]

Wow

[solar obsidian]

i just shoot other players

[arctic grove]

Good for keeping your expectations and hype in check tbh

Me grab gun, gun shoot

Gun loud

Gun kill

[arctic grove]

Below brutal expectations

[dusk forum]

I’m Suprised Zain doesn’t have like, one shot push kicks

[arctic grove]

#game-news

[solar obsidian]

its mostly why i do it,
also avoid spoilers for stuff i want to experience myself,

[arctic grove]

Idk

[dusk forum]

2042 is the plot of that old ass movie geostorm

Not even kidding

Weather controlling satellites being used by terrorists to cause utter destruction

[upbeat sand]

Ok
Before the nopat wars, the world started to call into collapse and climate change in 2031with economies collapsing and broken alliances, 2033 the first category 6 hurricane, 2-34 a seccond Great Depression kicks in due to food and fuel shortages, 2035 the EU officially disbands after Germany collapses

That's the start of it

[arctic grove]

Well in 2042 there is no sattelites

They don’t work, so both Russia and the US can’t watch each other

Which fucks everything up so they start indirectly fighting

[upbeat sand]

Yeah they went back to Cold War style agents and spies

Trying to make sure the other Wasent up to something

[dusk forum]

Oh and use of low orbit recon pods

Collect data and crash back to earth for data retrieval

[arctic grove]

when there's stuff like that

I expect natural disasters

like flood

[upbeat sand]

There was the blackout of 2040

[arctic grove]

and earthquake

WHERE ARE THEY

[upbeat sand]

Which is acutally showed in the game's opening cinematic

[solar obsidian]

whats the lore about the burning skin ?

[upbeat sand]

Space debris cased a Kessler effect which caused 70% of satellites to malfunction and crash back to earth

Cause is unknown

[arctic grove]

“It was in V so we did it again” /j

[solar obsidian]

[dusk forum]

Well actully…

[solar obsidian]

and then we have doom lore ❤️

[upbeat sand]

Oil and coal prices started skyrocketing, planes crashed, communication grids disappeared in an already jammed global supply chain stop moving

[dusk forum]

There IS a reason

[upbeat sand]

100,000 lives lost

[upbeat sand]

Probably oz

[dusk forum]

No actully

The US

[upbeat sand]

Oh was this in the war machine?

I forgot some of what happened

[dusk forum]

Shear water I, a sattelite apart of operation steadfast refuge was to be used to manipulate weather and stop the cross

Crisis

It misfired and caused the blackout

[dusk forum]

It was in steadfast reckoning and war machine

[upbeat sand]

Us being stupid again as usual

[solar obsidian]

give us nanosuits

[dusk forum]

Steadfast reckoning the steadfast refuge was the cause begind the blackout, war machine shows what steadfast refuge is

[upbeat sand]

And I think I remember something bout the us telling that nordvik is building some weapon

[dusk forum]

Yeah

Oz is using the shearwater II satellite for “silver spear”

[upbeat sand]

I don't remember but it was something bout a new version of the blackout thing

[dusk forum]

We don’t know yet

All we know is Oz is working with the dark market to iniate silver spear and use the shearwater II sattelite for…something

[upbeat sand]

I wonder if we'll see the dark market heads in an image of cinematic at some point

[hexed mango]

he’s actually my dad

[upbeat sand]

Since all we have is their descriptions

And their titles

[dusk forum]

Possibly

I’m just curious who the next specalist is gonna be tbh

[hexed mango]

they make weapons for the us

and made the railgun stuff

[upbeat sand]

Well we do know the heads of the dark market did visit nordvik

[upbeat sand]

Yeah I know

As in a super weapon

The us nordvik partnerships is pretty obvious

[dusk forum]

Nordvik is just Swedish Lockheed Martin

[spiral folio]

Yea the only reason anyone else has em is also kinda.. when was the last time BF had faction specific weapons

Its a wonder theres still faction specific vehicles

[arctic grove]

The differences are only cosmetic only, except with cases like the superhind climb vs the condor engines

Which don’t do anything staggeringly special for one vehicle more anyway

Getting rid of the sense of one faction fighting the other would just kinda suck. I like feeling like I’m fighting for one faction vs another

Also nordvik seems to have done business with Russia in the past anyways since the Russian announcer says “you may have one of their weapons in your locker right now”

[upbeat sand]

The us sure don't like having their toys being shared

[spiral folio]

Yea the tanks are just colorchanges basically the most meaningful differences are like yea the hind and f35

The tanks are tedious cause both have their own unlocks

And setups

They're literally identical though

[arctic grove]

For some reason unlocks can be like 100 kills apart

For both tanks

Who wants to play

I don't

[dusk forum]

Aside from changing movement speed, what’s the difference between mobility and seige mode?

[arctic grove]

I think the tor does more damage in siege mode

[spark leaf]

Is there a way to remove an attachment? I would like to cycle between 2 sights, not 3

[solid imp]

there is not

[spark leaf]

Thats mildy annoying but thanks for the answer!

[solid imp]

it's been requested but of course can't know if it will show up in the future as a feature 🙂

[arctic grove]

and improve the AI

[solar elk]

Anyone else having problems since update? Get stuck when i spawn in, keeps getting invisible, and not being able to aim down sight?

[chilly jacinth]

improved AI would outclass the average player

[solid imp]

an Advanced level AI already beams from crazy distances

[solar obsidian]

it already does

[arctic grove]

not all the time

they sometimes miss at close range

and aren't advanced enough to succeed

getting to mcom as such

[spark leaf]

Is there a weapon inspect button?

[tardy tree]

i wish

best we have is holding T

anyone have any idea when 3.2 is coming out?

[hybrid totem]

Incorrect

[hybrid totem]

Pay attention to the aiming reticle. It takes less time to charge and fire in siege mode

So you can do more damage quicker, but each shot does the same damage as in mobility mode

[hollow iris]

Much more, also nearly zero charge up

[placid echo]

It's just charge up time decrease

[tardy tree]

didnt they advertise it as more damage

[hybrid totem]

Where was that?

[tardy tree]

idk im pretty sure in the trailer they said something about siege mode ddoing more damage

i guess not then

[hybrid totem]

Siege Mode will maximize the main gun’s destructive power and lower suspension of the vehicle, creating a great opportunity to attack enemy armor. On the flip side, the tank’s movement will slow down to a crawl and the rate of fire will be slower in Siege Mode

So they do advertise it that way, but as a t1 tor tanker I can tell you it's wrong

[solid imp]

iirc it was just more dramatic looking visually to have it sit down into siege mode before annihilating the condor next to The Cube

[tardy tree]

understandable

it was pretty badass

[hybrid totem]

Rate of fire is actually faster because it takes less time to charge

[tardy tree]

this season has the best vehicle i think

besides the stealth choppers

i wonder what the next one is gonna be

[solid imp]

lower suspension of the vehicle
Is this like decreasing the recoil of the main gun?

[tardy tree]

yes i believe so

[hybrid totem]

I hope they just flesh out the weapon choices for existing vehicles

[tardy tree]

im pretty sure a tank like that exists in real life

[hybrid totem]

Recoil is already minimal. It literally reduces movement speed

[hybrid totem]

I'm sure Zain will be by soon to tell us

And also how inaccurate it is

[solid imp]

znath would say it fires 20mm rail slugs

[tardy tree]

ah yes rail slugs

[solid imp]

lol

[hybrid totem]

Yeah znath that's who I meant

Whatever it fires, it wrecks everything

One of my biggest complaints about this game is how certain bullets literally disappear when shooting too far

[slate meadow]

so your telling me the waffle house has found its new host

[hybrid totem]

Tor doesn't have that problem

[hybrid totem]

I don't understand this reference

[spiral folio]

The transport guns literally have a hard range limit

Its like 500m or something

And you can see it

I had a transport near orbit spamming shots at me and they stopped about 20-30ft overhead :v

[upbeat sand]

The 12g automatic has an reactive crossair that changes when you move and shoot

And the mcs dosent

[spiral folio]

Ive made hits and kills at 1000m with the rail but yea the minigun spam has a range limit

[hybrid totem]

Same as hmg and lmg, they cap out at like 700m

[kindred flint]

I'd wager our IQ is too high to understand this latest dumb meme

[hybrid totem]

I feel like it had something to do with that waffle house employee who got terminated for defending themselves, but yeah I don't get it from there

Also wildcat aa cannons max out at 700m

[spiral folio]

Wafflehouse girl
Next recon specialist will have the passive ability to block chairs

[kindred flint]

Not as impressive as the one that blocked a table

[hybrid totem]

I'm pretty sure flak cannon also disappears but I don't know how far

[spiral folio]

What's a table but a different form of chair really

[tardy tree]

bruh what

[hybrid totem]

Bf4, if a plane flew really high, you just had to increase your lead time

But those bullets went so far the missed ones probably came down somewhere later

In 2042, apparently bullets self destruct after their distance subscription expires

[spiral folio]

You could do the math on how far a railgun shots would go up

And then ask "would it be necessary to model/track that"

[hybrid totem]

So let's just shoot space ships out of a massive railgun.

[spiral folio]

Gundam does

[hybrid totem]

Forget massive explosions to achieve orbit

[spiral folio]

Yea like that's an actual idea

[hybrid totem]

Like an aircraft carrier launching system

[spiral folio]

"Mass driver" launch

Yea gundam uses it extensively

An old show called fireball XL5 uses a rocket sled launch

Turn A used a mag-lev launch

[sharp marten]

I’m at Arby’s y’all want anything?

[tardy tree]

i do not like arbys

theyre kinda awful ngl

[spiral folio]

I cant stand their off-main menu stuff

Like their basic roast beef is good

But like they have a tendancy to put crap on things like weird "sauces"

[quaint vector]

BF2042 channel guys..

[tardy tree]

mane

come on man

[spiral folio]

Obviously we mean the arbys in game

[tardy tree]

fr

Arbys commercials are funny asf tho

thats all i gotta say

[sharp marten]

So you don’t want any Arby’s

[spiral folio]

Doesnt matter it wants
Doesnt gets

[quaint vector]

I don't even know what that is... I'm sure its not BF2042 related so you can order it in #general

[sharp marten]

Uh

Uuuuuuhhhhh

[spiral folio]

I mean i get it
When the room is THIS BUSY busy (busy) (( busyyy ))
You gotta keep on topic so you dont interrupt the bustling conversation

[sharp marten]

[spiral folio]

Arbys 10th floor on kaleidoscope

Duh

Why so you think they want that last sector with thr mansion on top

[verbal barn]

How’s the state of the game now. Might buy it but the negative reviews have me hesitant

[tardy tree]

its pretty fun now

honestly

[quaint vector]

If its not there, you'll be Banned...

[tardy tree]

still not feeling like a real battlefield but you know

its still a pretty good game

[verbal barn]

Yeah I heard that too

[spiral folio]

"No pats... vere landink in korea. Emperor of russia wants hees beeh beef and chheddar. Now move out"

[verbal barn]

Just looking for a game to hop on and shoot ppl so I might end up buying it on sale or something

[spiral folio]

If you can get into the 10th floor sure

You gotta time the button juuuuust right

[sharp marten]

Windowman can’t stop us if we stage coup

[quaint vector]

I can time other buttons as well...

[spiral folio]

If you press it too early or late it just goes all the way up

Time that button

It is kinda odd that all the restaurants are carefully hidden in inaccessible floors of highrises

That you cant see from the streets

Look around on all the maps and its like... where do these people get food

[quaint vector]

[sharp marten]

You’re really gonna ride this out huh?

[spiral folio]

Do the houses on hourglass have bathrooms?

[wide shore]

[arctic grove]

No you gotta shit outside and dig a hole

[magic bloom]

Should be easy since it’s sand

[spiral folio]

Id be careful how deep i dug in qatar

[sharp marten]

You also wipe with sand

[arctic grove]

It is easy

[sharp marten]

Super easy

I have T1 toilet paper

[arctic grove]

bet

[spiral folio]

Use a hind often enough and you get toilet paper medals

[sharp marten]

Babe wake up new bf2042 lore just dropped

[magic bloom]

Did it?

[spiral folio]

There's lore?

[sharp marten]

Yeah

Tactical toilet paper

New gadget

[spiral folio]

I mean besides the lore of the legendary hidden arbys

[sharp marten]

I can’t believe windowman hasn’t seen it yet

[sharp marten]

In kaleidoscope don’t forget

[spiral folio]

Yea of course

The one on hourglass is buried so you cant get to it

[tardy tree]

no pats when the hidden arbys secret menu order gives them the runs

toilet paper gadget

[sharp marten]

This mf spittin

Windowman technically can’t ban anyone without it getting passed by the supreme leaders of battlefield Alex is the head leader

[spiral folio]

Itd be hillarious if like 1 in 10000 chance the elevator would stop on a hidden floor with something like that

[tardy tree]

thats some bf4 type easter egg right there

[spiral folio]

They'd have to robot chicken the name to skirt copyright

Like when animes do mcdonalds with a W

[tardy tree]

i just got the orbital tornado that destroys the rocket

i got the clip its so fucking cool

https://www.arbys.com/menu/

its right here

[spiral folio]

Which why even send troops in during a storm when you know it cant launch

Just sayin

[tardy tree]

naw they need to keep the tornado in the next bf game i swear

its so sick

[spiral folio]

Maybe 20y later we can suddenly launch in shakey weather

[tardy tree]

https://streamable.com/21447l

heres the rocket tornado thing

so many people died to the explosion

i dont think they knew it was gonna happen

[arctic grove]

Anyone bf42 europe

[dapper river]

they launch it anyway

[spiral folio]

Some KSP kinda shit

"Hurricane approaching. Launch anyway?"
[Slams yes button]

Launch the rocket and fight the 100mph winds in every direction

[fervent grotto]

Are we ever given a reason the rocket needs to launch?

I can’t recall one

[spiral folio]

They say it's some illegal weapon

Ie a space laser or weaponized satellite or nuke platform they dont say

[dapper river]

What the briefing says is not the same as what's actually happening behind the scenes. Like during the US briefing of Exposure.

[spiral folio]

I guess the launch facility figures itd be better the weapon was lost than captured

[dapper river]

it looks cool

[fervent grotto]

Do you mean that like the US side lies to make themselves look better or the voice lines are just straight wrong

[dapper river]

nah the US lies

[spiral folio]

The intro animations show satellites that have thrusters on them ie can change orbit

And what would you need that for

[dapper river]

what goes on at Blackreach is like, super top-secret

[hollow iris]

initiates MAD woah cool

[fervent grotto]

Ahh ok

[spiral folio]

-space laser shoots down the icbms-
"Karse you and your eeleegal vepens"

[ebon pilot]

the mcs we need
https://i.redd.it/4wagrnzoavca1.png

[spiral folio]

What shotgun users think long range is

Sniper close range is like 100m

[calm bison]

toilet grenade

[calm bison]

shotguns have some real range man

that's what gets me

people complained about the Model 10-A hunter in BF1

my guy that was probably more realistic than most guns in that game

[arctic grove]

im itching for S4 lol

[calm bison]

i feel like S4 will introduce new jets

[arctic grove]

i hate waiting

[calm bison]

S1 - Choppers
S2 - Armored Car
S3 - Tank
S4 - Gotta be a plane

[arctic grove]

i cant fly for the life of me so meh

[calm bison]

man if only there was a mode in 2042 where you had non-stop access to choppers and jets

[arctic grove]

yesterday i saw a littlebird fly through the tunnel in Exposure like a bro without hitting the walls and even getting a gun run and kills o.o

[calm bison]

yeah

that's normal for skilled pilots

[spiral folio]

Its a wonder nobody pressed 3 and rocketed him in the face

[ebon pilot]

honestly flying non-stop against a bunch of try-hard pilots is really not the best introduction to flying in 2042

[arctic grove]

i only wish i could do that im just a foot solder with and i only use 1 vehicle

[calm bison]

i was referring to Co-Op

[ebon pilot]

oh bots yeah

[calm bison]

Just do bot servers

theyre not gonna shoot you down

[ebon pilot]

i thought you were talking about the air superiority portal servers that show up occassionally

[calm bison]

no

Only go into air superiority if you're ready

[ebon pilot]

👏 you know what gamemode we need in portal

player destruction tdm

[calm bison]

Personally i would love a TDM map centered around the C objective on Exposure

Or even B or D

It's also confusing how the shipwreck over by A1 on Discarded is not a flag

like how

Move it back a little and make it a flag

[arctic grove]

2 much flag /j

[arctic grove]

Some maps could use an extra flag or 2

Like renewal could use 1

[ebon pilot]

but where would it go, a B2 flag like D2?

[arctic grove]

C3

the area with the building. Before renewal reworo there was a flap point top middle side of the map by E section

Add the Skate Park flag in Manifest top right corner

Same with Kalidescope

just add it.

Spread the flags around the map to cover all bases.

[clear radish]

#battlefield-2042 Hey, anyone has noticed, that you can see through the wall in Kaleidoscope map in D1 sector..
See this video and try it, if you want.. it’s captured on PlayStation 5 but it’s the same on pc i tried it too.
https://youtu.be/PMHpZ4F4Tcw

[spiral folio]

[arctic grove]

Hmmm idk man I don’t like links

[clear radish]

It’s youtube link

[arctic grove]

dc

[spiral folio]

-intensifies-

[arctic grove]

Plus he joined today

[still vault]

That would be perfect for the bug report forum https://answers.ea.com/t5/Bug-Reports/INFO-How-to-Bug-Report/td-p/10940830 🙂

[spiral folio]

I think it calls for more frogs though

[arctic grove]

Fr

[spiral folio]

Frogs with concerns

[arctic grove]

But why would he tell evreryone….

[spiral folio]

The good news is he can report his bug and get rid of weird suspicious links

[arctic grove]

Eh tru

[clear radish]

@still vault Yes, i already have reported this and a lot of other issues and cheaters that i met in the game but the issues still going on and not fixed and the cheaters still playing the game

[arctic grove]

My fault wael I don’t like clicking on random links

[spiral folio]

Yea posting links is suspicious to people

Since cheaters tend to run out of accounts as they keep getting banned. So they try to hijack more accounts to cheat with

Also serves as a good time to say if you see a link maybe leave it alone cause of that

[clear radish]

No i met the same cheater on 2/1/2023 i have reported him manually as i couldn’t somehow report him in the game and the second time was in 4/1/2023 and i couldn’t report him in the game too

[spiral folio]

Pawnstars guy
"It's not that I dont trust you, I dont trust anyone"

[clear radish]

You are right but you can verify links before you draw conclusion that it’s spam

[spiral folio]

Howeeverrrr
People who steal accounts make real appearing links by using false characters in the links

So like
It happens

Its kinda like "wash your hands if you touch a contaminated surface"

"How do i know its contaminated?"

"Assume it is if you don't know"

[mental delta]

"15 000 for this certified mousquet that has been used by Lincoln himself ? Ha sorry the best I can do is 1500 and I literally gain only 200 on this deal"

[spiral folio]

"Hey pal im gonna buy this. Its gonna sit for who knows.... so i dont care if its a mousquet or or a mouseketeer.. 500"
[Cut to interview]
"This guys a moron but i want this more than life itself ill die if I dont get it"
[Cut back]
Seller "can you do 501.01?"
"Not a chance in hell"
... ...
........ "ok 500"

[mental delta]

Lmao everytime

"Well let's cut it in half, you want 700 I want 500, let's agree on 600"

[spiral folio]

End interview "this is an awesome deal... im gonna make at least 20 grand off this but first... lets go fire it"

I kinda miss bf5s test range

Is the display cable in the right port

Well like if your display cable is plugged into the mobo its bypassing the card entirely

Cant hurt to check

But maybe the update safe-moded your settings also

[slender hare]

guys what weapon is better on the nightbird?

[shell ermine]

I hope 3.2 comes before Feb 10th

[remote kiln]

its coming in january

[slender hare]

why is your name purple

[remote kiln]

!!regular

[tender pendant]

The Regular role is earned by users automatically who are active in chat and follow the server rules. With this role you can post/embed images, use some bot commands, and change what color you appear in chat.

[slender hare]

ah I see

[stoic ferry]

1089 points. Soon T1 s3. anyone have it yet?

[idle ermine]

Yea I love this game a lot is a great shooter for realism

[arctic grove]

Yo gamers

Does anybody know how to make the game look less sharp

Like the sharpening is so strong it looks out of place

Not a monitor setting

Every other game looks fine

[silk surge]

I should try winging with airburst rifle more often

[rocky kraken]

gawd damn

[drowsy shuttle]

Mcs is still dog shit

[hexed mango]

ah hell naw MGM has their own subscription platform

[drowsy shuttle]

Dear lord i dont think they buffed the mcs

[hexed mango]

they did

only the #01 Buck from under 20m

8 -> 15 damage per pellet

granted, the spread is still shit

so good luck hitting your shots

[drowsy shuttle]

Ah wait.. i was usinf #04 my bad

[hexed mango]

lol

its still not an amazing shotgun, really only effective from 10m or closer

but if you hit all (or most) of the pellets, its a OHK close up

[drowsy shuttle]

Yeah just did a 4 man multikill... but yeaj you really need to hit your shots... i was within 10m

[brittle forge]

But the 12m auto can still kill pretty fast from 40 m away, very balanced

It can’t ohk you granted but still I ran into some users of it last night

wasn’t fun

[drowsy shuttle]

Mcs should be a secondary weapon. Its very situational

[hexed mango]

eh

they just need to buff it a tiny bit more and balance the 12m

shotguns should be dominate under 15m imo

at least for the sake of balance in this game

[arctic grove]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1003428984194859059/1065404944695443579/KAWAII.png @still vault Pre Order Now

[drowsy shuttle]

The rate of fire its so sloooow.

[hexed mango]

im gonna slap you

[arctic grove]

Am i wrong?

[hexed mango]

yes.

[arctic grove]

Damn

[drowsy shuttle]

Lol

Yeah its still dogshit.

Back to ghostmaker

Did they silent nerf the g57?

[arctic grove]

Honestly I think shotgun ranges should be like in irl

[hexed mango]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[hexed mango]

for the sake of balance it kinda doesnt make sense tho, which is why i said earlier

shotguns should be dominate under 15m imo
at least for the sake of balance in this game

[drowsy shuttle]

Feels weak.. or maybe its me.. i havent played for almost 2 weeks and my aim is all over the place lol

[median tusk]

feels the same to me

[hexed mango]

i think it being realistic would be nice. cause games always butcher shotguns.

[drowsy shuttle]

Yeah then its probably me... need to warm up..

I just came to the game cause AoE4 servers are down for maintenance

[solar obsidian]

rts fan

[drowsy shuttle]

Basically only AoE and CoH

[solar obsidian]

good shit though

[drowsy shuttle]

Aye

[solar obsidian]

cant wait for the comparison between 2042 and coh 3 destruction

[drowsy shuttle]

Lol

[sharp marten]

Coh 3?

[drowsy shuttle]

Even coh 2 has better destruction than bf 2042

[sharp marten]

Oh nvm

[arctic grove]

Ehh understandable

I just wanna use a shotgun mid range

[solar obsidian]

company of heroes 2 have destrution we wish breakaway had

[arctic grove]

Which I can

But I’ll loose the gunfight

[solar obsidian]

imagine being able to make holes in the water with explosives

[arctic grove]

[solar obsidian]

https://youtu.be/m5JDqGoShbI

[arctic grove]

Also I srsly want a SPAS-24

Like cmon

That’ll be cool

[iron thistle]

So the featured portal gamemode is 1942 rendevous and the first map they put us on is noshar canals rush. The whole point of the map is that theres a helicopter on top of the carrier in spawn so you dont have to swim the 400 meters to the objective..... Cherry on top theres no spawn beacons in 1942.

[hexed mango]

it'd be as broken as the 12m and i dont want it

[iron thistle]

Do they think anything thru ?

[hexed mango]

they never do

[iron thistle]

400 meter swim every death

[arctic grove]

Suck it up buttercup and eat the gauge

[hexed mango]

im good

thanks for the offer

[arctic grove]

Lol

What gun would u want added

As a 2042 era weapon

[solar obsidian]

https://youtu.be/909dUAsTRJM

[rocky kraken]

the bsvm is more broken now

after recoil fix

im getting beamed

[hexed mango]

m18

[rocky kraken]

wasnt that in data files

[hexed mango]

but that wont happen cause mp17 alr exists and alex hates the m18

[rocky kraken]

like a long time ago

[crimson basin]

Why do they keep adding portal weapons instead of 2042 weapons? Like they don't even regularly host a 1942 playlist

[hexed mango]

nah that was the M17_P380 which is the MP17

[rocky kraken]

oh

oof

[hexed mango]

P320*

[rocky kraken]

i would 100% take more 2042 over portal

1942 has enough guns anways

[hexed mango]

yeah i got upset, i datamined it myself and realized it only says "M17_P320" but that's the MP17...

i agree

[rocky kraken]

like 6 portal weapons

and you cant use them lol

[hexed mango]

M17/18 is a nice pistol tho... would be cool to have

lol right

[rocky kraken]

imagine 6 new 2042 weapons :0

[hexed mango]

i want to use them so much

[rocky kraken]

instant happiness

[hexed mango]

i mean the new 1942 weapons have been in the files since S2

so...

[rocky kraken]

hm

maybe they have a stockpile

hehe

[hexed mango]

looks that way

M2 shoots so fast lel

but tbh an AUG would be a cool 2042 weapon

but we need more snipers

[arctic grove]

They add portal weapons to give players stuff to do Ig

Plus the sniper ain’t half bad

[rocky kraken]

mmm

i want aug

[arctic grove]

2042 Aug

YES

[rocky kraken]

id rather them fix the normal portal weapons

[hexed mango]

or an FN pistol

[rocky kraken]

then giving new ones

[hexed mango]

509 perhaps

[arctic grove]

or a fucking M4000

[hexed mango]

Aero Precision EPC

[rocky kraken]

manifest rework was trash

[hexed mango]

that one czech pistol

[rocky kraken]

worst rework

[hexed mango]

i liked the rework

[arctic grove]

Wdym the map plays soo much better now

[hexed mango]

worst one was renewal

[arctic grove]

This

[rocky kraken]

idk

[hexed mango]

cause it barely changed anything

manifest was already a great map, the rework just improves some slight inconsistencies in it

[rocky kraken]

didnt renewal change more than manifest tho

idk never liked manifest

[arctic grove]

Well the terrain and cover was certainly added in the desert area

[rocky kraken]

still too big

[arctic grove]

But the grass area still ass

[rocky kraken]

yep

[arctic grove]

I think renewal will be the new worst 2042 map

[rocky kraken]

grass area needed giant holes or something

[hexed mango]

i mean it was a slight change to the terrain, it was basically the same before, changes all for the better, for sure, but it wasnt a massive change that i hope breakaway is

[rocky kraken]

or containers

:3

[hexed mango]

well i mean breakaway's looks amazing so...

[rocky kraken]

breakaway is gonna be good

[hexed mango]

yeah they shoulda kept the area in the green they removed, but moved it more closer to the wall

[arctic grove]

Breakaway is a huge change compared to renewal

[rocky kraken]

they changed the ice look

[hexed mango]

precisely

[rocky kraken]

instead of just white ground

[hexed mango]

and then i hope Hourglass and Discarded are even better :P

[rocky kraken]

it has some level of detail

discarded gonna be ass

[drowsy shuttle]

Infantry BT with the same layout as regular... really smart, Dice.. really smart.

[rocky kraken]

i already know

[arctic grove]

Season 4 gonna be poppin

[rocky kraken]

they showed sandbags on top of the ship

and then nothing else changed

[hexed mango]

they havent shown it yet....

[rocky kraken]

wondering what they will do with the water area on discarded

[arctic grove]

Hourglass better be the first map that launches the rework in season 4 lol

[rocky kraken]

they showed a screenshot of part of discarded rewokr

[hexed mango]

and there are already sandbags on one of the ships

[arctic grove]

Hell they might make a bigger swamp area

[rocky kraken]

the water physics

need to be fixed

lol

its bad

[arctic grove]

Well we don’t swim

Barely

[rocky kraken]

the ripple effects are odd

[hexed mango]

only in Noshahr

[arctic grove]

P much

I think year 2 might have a water rework who knows

[hexed mango]

JP-5 is a neat non-US ar

[rocky kraken]

if i drive a vehicle in the discarded water it looks weird

[hexed mango]

it looks weird in all water.

water in this game is just bad

[rocky kraken]

i want to see that drone coming

[hexed mango]

SU70 Hunter

[rocky kraken]

yea

wish it was a vehcile

[hexed mango]

probs gonna be S4 Specialist gadget

[rocky kraken]

we need a better air to ground plane

i really hope not

[arctic grove]

Next map is gonna be cqc tho

Wouldn’t make much sense

[hexed mango]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[arctic grove]

I think it’s another ground vehicle

Or yk they add attack jets and a new transport vehicle like a dirt bike

Like how season 2 was with the Polaris RZR

[rocky kraken]

jets are just so bad

[arctic grove]

Skill issue tbh

I seen crazy good pilots in this game

[rocky kraken]

they feel like trash

[drowsy shuttle]

Lol

[rocky kraken]

sure

but they feel like bricks

in the sky

[arctic grove]

Idk maaaan

Gotta fly more Ig

[rocky kraken]

yeah and dice is smart and makes the russian plane faster than the us

so you lose every dogfight

[hexed mango]

i mean 2 thrusters > 1 thruster

or

whatever

:)

[stoic ferry]

gad im so glad the 3.2 is soon here

[hexed mango]

Soon™️

[arctic grove]

Sooooooooon

[stoic ferry]

so very soon

[hexed mango]

earliest next week but 🤞 it isnt the week after that

[arctic grove]

Oh so very very soon

[stoic ferry]

end of rocketspam era

[arctic grove]

I’m calling it there’s gonna be a free artic skin for a specialist

Maybe Zaine?

[hexed mango]

zain

[stoic ferry]

might be. is there any other then angels in the game now?

[arctic grove]

i see sniping is still a bf problem, i see why people where complaining now, but at least i ant that last guy in my game who had 100 assists with a sniper xD

[rocky kraken]

i just got killed by a guy named ballisticfootjob

im uninstalling'

[arctic grove]

bye

[hexed mango]

me fr

[rocky kraken]

then dice needs to rework squads

[arctic grove]

How exactly

[rocky kraken]

let me make my own squad

[arctic grove]

U want bigger squads or sum?

[rocky kraken]

...

the squad system sucks

[stoic ferry]

its never been good. they got it ok in bf4

[rocky kraken]

well

[stoic ferry]

and fun with the call ins in bfv

[arctic grove]

have any of you guys had a issue where you trying to spawn on a objective only to get spawned somewhere else?

[rocky kraken]

i would like to be rewarded for doing things

[hexed mango]

jesus i just got like 10 kills in a row with the mcs

[rocky kraken]

yeah call ins would bec ool

airstrike voiceline was added

sooo

[arctic grove]

No

[stoic ferry]

you need someone to tell you, that you have been a good good boy ?

[arctic grove]

happens to me constantly

[versed wave]

are you using space or double click to respawn ?

[arctic grove]

If u want to feel rewarded go for tier 3 ribbions

my mouse point and clicking

Anyone know of any Portal servers on PS5 that run full XP with battle field 3 guns?

Trying to unlock the P-90

[arctic grove]

Oh wait u mean where u select B but it puts u a lil far back from it

That’s supposed to help u not get spawn trapped

[arctic grove]

yes like at the deployment instead of a objective

Tho it be a bitch sometimes

nono

Every server on portals is either XP farming or XP limited or both…

not that

Wait

[arctic grove]

go to portal chat 😛

this is 2042 chat

[arctic grove]

Yea I quite don’t understand

And like what @versed wave said are u using space or double click to respawn

@arctic grove what im saying is when i try to deploy to a marker like A for example to try to stop it from being captured it kicked me to the closest other point some times deployment

Objective got neutralized

nope

it was JUST started being taken

Odd

is there a "contested" point can not spawn here gimic or something?

[rocky kraken]

yes

ribbons are bad too

[arctic grove]

and?

mr troll, question, besides to troll why are you here?

[arctic grove]

Yea idk man sry

its ok

[rocky kraken]

whos mr troll

[hexed mango]

i love when my mcs reticle is completely on a guy and it doesnt ohk them from 1m

[arctic grove]

I swear I be hearing issues IDEK existed

i was only wondering

[arctic grove]

It cool

guess ill go back to the game for now take care all 🙂

[rocky kraken]

glock getting buff?

[drowsy shuttle]

Thats why its shit... its super inconsistent

[hexed mango]

yeah i concur

what bolt do you use on ghostmaker

im assuming reg

[drowsy shuttle]

Default... long range, explosives

[radiant prism]

I’ve never seen someone so consistently have a hate boner for a sidearm lol

[hexed mango]

long range explosives, or use default at long range

[radiant prism]

Just about every time I’m in this chat I see GM bitching about the Glock lol

[arctic grove]

G22 go craaazy

[drowsy shuttle]

I prefer use explosives for long, for the 1 shot kill

[rocky kraken]

yall

the new portal weps are fixed

[arctic grove]

he is a troll after all

thats what they do

[arctic grove]

We know

[hollow iris]

It's boring as hell, and the revolver sucks :(

At least we have the halo weapon

[arctic grove]

Boring….

[rocky kraken]

this is actually my first time talking about the glock

best gun in the entire game

[patent prism]

G22? Gewehr 22? Accuracy International Arctic Warfare Magnum?

[arctic grove]

No I meant the-

Forget it

U prob know what I’m talking abt

[radiant prism]

Ok yeah he’s definitely trolling, he’s said that verbatim before

Anyways

[hollow iris]

Yeah it's crazy but it's glock man :(

[arctic grove]

just wave and nod just wave and nod lool

[patent prism]

I actually don't if I'm being honest. I'm guessing it's some firearm in some game but I suck with in-game names for real weapons.

[arctic grove]

No I meant the Glock

[patent prism]

.40 S&W. A man of culture, I see.

[arctic grove]

@patent prism have....................have you played 2042 yet?

[patent prism]

I have indeed.

[arctic grove]

then im very confused, ill just keep sipping my coffee lol

[patent prism]

Do tell, what is confusing?

[arctic grove]

I still wan a spas 24 in the game

[arctic grove]

no,no its cool your good fam its me

i misread

[patent prism]

Alright then.

[patent prism]

Ngl you got me there, I had to Google to see if a SPAS-24 existed.

[arctic grove]

Lmao

[rocky kraken]

12G auto is great

[patent prism]

Unlike you 🙂

[drowsy shuttle]

Playing solo against a team with people in friends squads is hard to do something.. but it is what it is..

And on top of that my random squads is 90% of the time lvl 30 console players lol

[rocky kraken]

well

[drowsy shuttle]

Yeah feels weird

[radiant prism]

How so?

Because they did change the gunplay to fix a bug

Related to recoil

[rocky kraken]

all the guns beam even more now

even the pkp

laser beam

feel like there needs to be more recoil now

after that bug has been fixed

[arctic grove]

Lmgs been broken since launch

Tf

[copper fulcrum]

On Steam?

[stoic ferry]

same. but it goes away when and if you die

[drowsy shuttle]

Im actually scared for 3.2... afraid of what they gonna break..

[stoic ferry]

hotfixes after 3.2 is surely going to come.

but it fixes some big things so im happy

[drowsy shuttle]

Yeah problem is usually takes weeks

[stoic ferry]

I love the specialists approach but the NON stop rocketspam in the game is frustrating

100% of players have rockets

its crazy

meta is slow forward with tanks and APS boxes

[hearty flame]

dunno why people are so worried
dice always breaks something with big patches
its no big deal

[stoic ferry]

now. you have to be engineer to have rocket. and I guess some players dont want to " only be that " with the downside of that

M5

fxm also when you are in the air.

10 rockets after you at any time

[royal swan]

That's a cool brick wall instead of that boring ass everything must fit perfectly wall

[stoic ferry]

angel. fxm inf ammo

[royal swan]

Should be lesser in a few more days. Next update will put a class system in the game

[stoic ferry]

ik

[hexed mango]

not all 100% of players have rockets

i surely dont use one

[royal swan]

We have two Tuesdays left, and updates are usually on Tuesday now, so it's either 24 or 31

[hexed mango]

i mean usually is just the last one. the one before was wednesday

[royal swan]

Ah

[stoic ferry]

90++%

minimum

[hexed mango]

but small patches like 3.1.2 dont usually have fixed dates

whereas 3.2 is more likely to fit the established cycle of tues-wed or thurs-fri

[copper fulcrum]

Yeah it was more like a hot-fix kinda

[arctic grove]

U play engineer for rockets I play engineer for repair tool we are not the same

[hexed mango]

chad