battlefield-2042

[lone wren]

I don't use wildcat anymore

I use the lovely RAM though

[crude surge]

I'll whip out the wildcat if there's an especially stubborn stealth heli that my team can't seem to handle on their own

Rao + wildcat = very pissed off heli pilots

[lone wren]

People say delete rao but I say rao perfectly useful against vehicles

[hexed mango]

rao is amazing

that's one of the specialists sam worked on a lot

[crude surge]

Rao is basically the only real option against vehicles for me, Lis' rocket on consoles doesn't feel the same on PC for some reason and the anti tank grenade ain't enough for me

[lone wren]

I think the people that hate rao are just sweaty vehicle mains

[hexed mango]

probably why he's so good

[crude surge]

Occasionally I won't even shoot aircraft down with Rao I'll just keep hacking them and keep them frustrated

[hexed mango]

sam was also the main person for the start of zain's development

[lone wren]

I forgot dice is stopping adding more people into 2042

[hexed mango]

which is probably a good thing tbh

sam said it gives him much more time to work on other stuff that needs to be done

[lone wren]

I hope the battlefield story project is going to be decent

[hexed mango]

yeah there's a lot of hope for the next tbf game

[lone wren]

What I hate about being in vehicles is no one hops in the seats and you basically by yourself and you die because no one is there to support

Very annoying

[next onyx]

TOR is fun.

[granite island]

Is there a way to not spawn on the Russian side when playing with bots

[hexed mango]

no it auto sets you as whatever team is "attacking"

[arctic grove]

I wish it didn’t tbh

[hexed mango]

yeah i wish i could set team

[sterile canyon]

Mk4 single shot got nerf now finally

[hexed mango]

the season event just ended

the events usually happen roughly halfway through a season

[crude surge]

It could use more events more often

[hexed mango]

ok

[crude surge]

Even if it's recycled game modes I wouldn't mind as long as there was more event action

[hexed mango]

more 128p bt

[crude surge]

I enjoy the chaos of 128 but I play more on Xbox one now since my wife is on the PC usually

The Xbox one experience is shockingly good even just being only Xone and PS4 but now with no 128 player mode I don't feel like I'm missing out anymore

[grand barn]

It was. This bug wasn't on their radar whatsoever until Baranox and I informed them of it. That particular change is absolutely a result of us. It's not ego either, it's just simple fact.

[hexed mango]

ok

[grand barn]

No, I'm actually not. You just hate that Baranox and I directly influenced a good change to the game, and refuse to give either of us credit. Seethe.

[hexed mango]

it is also a fact that i have inspired countless other changes via direct contact with devs, i just dont bloat about it on twitter

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[grand barn]

Like what?

I'm willing to bet it's miscellaneous small things.

Not a catastrophic fundamental problem that affects all players.

[hexed mango]

kill feed setting not applying, vaulting animations being broken during certain gun actions (and vice versa), sundance icons for grenades not properly loading, and the grenades not switching according to input, the issue with icons being too annoying - causing the peripheral icons opacity change, hud color changes, and some balance issues with most specialists

[grand barn]

So yeah, random misc things.

That's fine, but this is totally different lol. The thing we found affects all players every single time you shoot at someone.

The game might feel totally different tomorrow as a result.

[hexed mango]

also in 3.2 boris should be getting a slight rework, something way and myself spearheaded to sam

[grand barn]

I'm excited to see how it feels

hopefully the boris rework is him being deleted from the game

along with rao and lis

[next onyx]

The changes to Boris actually are much more constructive than just removing him.

I don't know what's happening but I have an idea.

[hexed mango]

and tbh if you think rao and lis as well as boris should be removed, i think that's what you would call a "skill issue"

[grand barn]

Make a deconstructive change and remove him

huehuieahuihueasd

[next onyx]

Did you have a stroke.

[hexed mango]

hey guys this is the guy that's providing "influential" changes in the game! wanting specialists to be deleted because he doesnt like them

[grand barn]

Rao is fundamentally unbalanced and shouldn't be in the game, and Lis' rocket should just be the SRAW from BF4, doesn't need to be removed. Rao does though.

[hexed mango]

rao does not need to be removed. for the sake of simple vehicle balance, rao is one of the more useful tools to provide targetting to vehicles, while also not being a major devastation to the vehicles. just hacking them doesnt do anything, but hacking and then having a solid team to apply pressure is what matters

[arctic grove]

Maybe Rao should have a set amount of times he can hack a vehicle, I don’t really care about his effect on in world interactive things like the road stops on Kaleidoscope or on players, but for vehicles he’s kinda… eh

[next onyx]

"Charges"

[arctic grove]

Eh in the ‘he can become very annoying very quickly’ way

[hexed mango]

i mean he already has a fairly large cooldown on hacking the same vehicle sequentially, and with 3.2, he himself wont be able to hack and lock on (cause he wont have the stinger)

[grand barn]

Rao is the single strongest anti-vehicle threat ever added to a Battlefield game. From complete safety with zero effort, Rao can totally disable a vehicles ability to play the game, and SPAM it with very little cooldown. It's broke, and there is a reason why previous Battlefield game's vehicle vs infi gameplay was better without something like Rao.

[next onyx]

Hold 3 charges and only regenerates them every 30 seconds.

[arctic grove]

Yknow what that is true

[hexed mango]

the cooldown is pretty fine.

[arctic grove]

So I gotta give him that, soon he won’t be able to use launchers anyways

[next onyx]

Let's avoid a fight here by the way.

[hexed mango]

he can't "spam" it cause there is a 30s cooldown on hacking the same vehicle.

[radiant prism]

I don't hate it. I just think its funny how influential you think you are LOL. The very fact that you felt the need to come back through chat and respond to ANYTHING mildly against you speaks to your overinflated ego. Luv ya hun <3

[arctic grove]

[next onyx]

I'm going to step in now. You two. Leave it.

[grand barn]

Listen, this is a case of "you were probably too bad at previous BF game vehicle gameplay to understand why this is so broken", and im just ending it there lol

[hexed mango]

[radiant prism]

Tehe.

[grand barn]

Seethe lol

[next onyx]

I like the utility of Rao but I think his ability to lock weapon systems up is a bit too far.

@grand barn @radiant prism Leave it.

[hexed mango]

wow great argument! how long did it take you to come up with a "skill issue" comment! real genius here

[arctic grove]

The visual effect is okay and I suppose it could maybe be rewarded with XP but yeah

Because on 64v64 rao becomes a mess

[grand barn]

it is though, it's actually a skill issue lol

[hexed mango]

for you, yes

[grand barn]

im better than you

at everything

[hexed mango]

sure

[grand barn]

so no

[hexed mango]

better at being annoying

[next onyx]

Knock it off. Now. Both of you.

[hexed mango]

ok im gonna watch tlou

[arctic grove]

The cooldown quickly becomes questionably helpful as a vehicle player when it’s likely there’s at least 10 other ones anyways

[grand barn]

shitters gonna be shitters

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[hexed mango]

block is a handy feature on discord

[arctic grove]

If only block didn’t show

“one blocked message”

[hexed mango]

i can make it not show

simple css

[arctic grove]

smart people stuff

[hexed mango]

yeah the hack doesnt stay for a very long amount of time...

sam has said that rao is getting some "love" in 3.2, and i hope so, cause he is really fun

[arctic grove]

Some love?

lord help me

[hexed mango]

afaik its mainly visual stuff

like team mates being able to clearly see when a vehicle is hacked

[arctic grove]

That sounds interesting

[radiant prism]

"shitters" notice I didn't insult your ability to play the game, I know you're good. I just think ya need to tone down the ego a tad bit hun. Seriously, I think what you and Baranox did is a good thing, never did I suggest the contrary.

[hexed mango]

gecc for the sake of peace i would suggest leaving it

[next onyx]

Gecko I told you to leave it.

[radiant prism]

Yeah I need to anyways, mid DnD sesh here.

[idle ermine]

Wat is the best hand gun

[arctic grove]

G57

Good backup but can even 1 burst if you can hit the shots

I read you need 2 to the body 1 to the head for a one burst though

[limpid idol]

I believe the next update will be next week on Tuesday I can only imagine

I pray

[arctic grove]

I personally am confused what the schedule is

[copper fulcrum]

Only real thing I'm looking forward to in the big update is the Breakaway change

[limpid idol]

Everything falls on a Tuesday now

That’s true

[arctic grove]

Thought tomorrow was the breakaway and class thing but it’s a patch it seems

Coming before 3.2

[quick rune]

enders

[radiant prism]

3.1.2

[arctic grove]

Which I read will be in February now

[copper fulcrum]

Yeah it's 3.12

[arctic grove]

Yea

[limpid idol]

Well we shall see. But I saw nothing about the class system being implemented.

[radiant prism]

Oh shit its Junda :)

Heya

[arctic grove]

Like period? Or in this update

[copper fulcrum]

Yeah not in 3.1.2

But in 3.2

3.1.2 is like a hot-fix but not

[limpid idol]

@radiant prism hello sir

[arctic grove]

I’m looking forward to that recoil fix

[limpid idol]

Yeah me too.

It’s been very odd

[solar nova]

what up

[radiant prism]

Microwaved fix

[arctic grove]

Hey man

[limpid idol]

My accuracy has gone down a lot

[copper fulcrum]

Air-Fryer fix

[arctic grove]

My stats have me sitting at like 11% accuracy

Which I’m pretty sure is from pre august patch which made aim assist function

[copper fulcrum]

Just gonna put this out here, Accuracy stat really gets tied to what gun you use the most

[solar nova]

not even sure what mines at the last time I checked I was at like 15%

[limpid idol]

It’s so odd. It just keeps going down

It was at a 25% now it’s 24% surely I’m not getting worse

[copper fulcrum]

Oh no, 1%

How will I manage?

[limpid idol]

[radiant prism]

My accuracy in BFV was awful because I flew fighters and used the MG-42

So uh

[limpid idol]

Fair

[copper fulcrum]

My accuracy is terrible because I like using guns as a means to communicate

Hey, gimme ammo, brrrt

Hey, you suck, brrrt

You know, like a true gun-toting Texan would

[solar nova]

oh mine went up

I was at 15

[limpid idol]

@solar nova sup man

[solar nova]

now im at 18

sup man

[copper fulcrum]

I've never seen you people

[radiant prism]

🎵 The hills are aliiiiive with the sound of DAKKADAKKADAKKADAKKADAKKADAKKADAKKADAKKADAKKADAKKA 🎵

[limpid idol]

What do you mean by you people

[copper fulcrum]

Users lol

[limpid idol]

[next onyx]

Junda!

[limpid idol]

I am a Battlefield extraordinaire

[next onyx]

been a while!

[limpid idol]

@next onyx yes it has my good sir.

[next onyx]

How are you.

[limpid idol]

I’ve just been grinding

Level S450

[next onyx]

Jeez.

Game is stale for me so I couldn't push that.

[radiant prism]

Hey Way I'm gonna start a fight with Junda too

[limpid idol]

Yeah, it’s been absolutely great though. Streams have been taking off

I’m going for my partner push grind.

[next onyx]

Is the U.S just as cursed.

With their servers.

[limpid idol]

Yeah of course

[copper fulcrum]

Way, you're the one that is cursed

[limpid idol]

I mean…

[next onyx]

OCE is a pain.

[limpid idol]

Have you lost 17 times in a row attacking

[next onyx]

...

Fucking hell.

[limpid idol]

That was actual pain

[copper fulcrum]

I barely touch Breakthrough or Rush nowadays

[limpid idol]

I had atleast 10 70-100 kill games

And it’s just like????

TEAM?

[next onyx]

Pain.

[limpid idol]

Surely.

[next onyx]

I feel bad when I'm trying to get a weapon to tier 1 and my team loses.

[copper fulcrum]

Breakthrough works when teams try, but given that Battlefield always caters to casual players (because that's their revenue) that won't always happen

[next onyx]

880 MCS will be my next up to get done though.

[limpid idol]

@copper fulcrum fair enough. I’d imagine Sundance is perfect on CQ

[next onyx]

Oh yeah.

[copper fulcrum]

I have so much space in CQ lol

[next onyx]

Have you tried Zain?

I main Zain and he's so much fun.

[limpid idol]

Nahhh I am being a polite cat

[copper fulcrum]

I can actually fly without getting out of bounds in 5 seconds lmao

[limpid idol]

Dude the moment I use zain I’m just gonna laugh the entire time

[next onyx]

I love his passive.

[limpid idol]

I play Falckarooni and McKay

Medic assault main

I love being a medic though

It’s always been that way

[next onyx]

Mackay is too powerful and I'm glad they're cutting him back a bit.

[copper fulcrum]

I like Battlefield for the open-ended Sandbox feel, and Breakthrough feels too restrictive for my tastes but I can see the appeal, more condensed action.

[next onyx]

Medic isn't for me in all honesty.

Support is mine.

[limpid idol]

Fair enough

[next onyx]

You know I ran the FG42 right.

[limpid idol]

To each their own

[arctic grove]

I’m stilll waiting for engineer Crawford….

[next onyx]

I've always been an aggro support it's weird.

[limpid idol]

Ooooh. My buddies are going to be playing Irish as a medic

[next onyx]

M27 IAR, RPK, FG42, etc.

OH YEAH.

[limpid idol]

That’s going to be very interesting

[next onyx]

Irish as a medic will be massive.

[arctic grove]

Fr

[next onyx]

I'll be giving him a go for sure.

[scenic tartan]

irish always should have been a medic. the shield was perfect for reviving

[next onyx]

I was just talking to Vanta about him.

[limpid idol]

Yeah no kidding

[next onyx]

His utility is so important.

[copper fulcrum]

Oh yeah and people will touch Crawford less (as if people even touch him at all)

[arctic grove]

APS but instead of trophy system it’s a healing hive from division 2

[copper fulcrum]

I think the last time I saw a Crawford was like 2 weeks ago, and he wasn't even using the minigun either

[next onyx]

Crawford reminds me of the cut archtype from bf5 where supports could build stationaries anywhere.

[arctic grove]

Hey I play as him…

[copper fulcrum]

I think the minigun is too restrictive on top of that massive spread on the gun

Like the view angle is not good

[next onyx]

If it started with 10% less spread that'd be nice at least.

[arctic grove]

I’m just waiting for his engineer rework since engineer is my main playstyle

[arctic grove]

Or yk it’s a death machine in call of duty

[next onyx]

Sort of diffferent but that was good fun.

[copper fulcrum]

Make Dozer be able to take off the minigun because he's fucking massive

Have you guys seen a Dozer in the end of round screen and just see how tall he is compared to literally everyone?

[arctic grove]

Nah

Not a lot of ppl in my lobbies play as him

Idky he’s a good pick

[copper fulcrum]

You put a Dozer and a Sundance in the same squad in the end of round and he's like a foot taller

[arctic grove]

Lol

[copper fulcrum]

You can also just look at him in the main menu and switch between the other specialists

[arctic grove]

Ye

I hope the MK-14 ebr gets added

I underestimated how useful the smoke grenade launcher is for giving me confidence to go for risky pushes/caps

Now all I need is thermal scopes /j

[copper fulcrum]

A lot of guns can get a smoke underbarrel

and since the plus system exists, just swap to that when needed

[arctic grove]

Hm that’s true

[solar nova]

Iv stopped playing as soon as I hit sr100

[arctic grove]

I totally didn’t forget those existed earlier and felt a sense of dread knowing I only have one month to use it with mackay

[solar nova]

smoke underbarrel is actually bugged

lol

[arctic grove]

Just my luck

[solar nova]

you cant really use it cause the smoke goes away as soon as you use it

lmao

[copper fulcrum]

No, it's good now

[arctic grove]

Is there such thing as a cqc recon?

[copper fulcrum]

Bug was fixed in Season 1

[copper fulcrum]

Paik

[solar nova]

its back

[kindred flint]

...lmao nearly all of exposure being captured around us..this team literally cant defend anything nor help capture ...yeeah time for a new server

[arctic grove]

oh right….

[solar nova]

Its happened to me a couple of times

in the last week or so

[copper fulcrum]

I use it all the time, so idk

It can bounce

[solar nova]

it does not happen all the time but it will happen at the most obnoxious times

[kindred flint]

does one team in tact grind start with full caps?

[next onyx]

No.

That's CqA.

[dusk forum]

Anyone got the Nordvik logo?

[kindred flint]

ah so this team that just got triple capped at the start of a breakaway..is trash

[solar obsidian]

[royal swan]

Finally got the Boris achievement

[viscid bone]

Recoil bug fix

Massive W

I can finally play the game

[royal swan]

Well it's tomorrow

The update

[copper fulcrum]

Level S200+ players looking at the update

[topaz field]

https://twitter.com/dewszt/status/1608503421501607936?t=j-m4NHyyLhK4qjubYrCG7Q&s=19

Looks like Casper/ Angel future outfit in 2nd imagine

Wonder if Dice had some inspiration from this Twitter page

[hexed mango]

i got it last night lol

[next onyx]

@viscid bone ❤️

[soft dagger]

I also want Boris to be completely removed from the game

[viscid bone]

Haoi

[viscid bone]

I second this

[copper fulcrum]

Boris is really the weakest specialist in the game

Like the only way to die by the turret is to be pre-occupied or straight up ignore the turret

[safe cypress]

Nah not a problem with him, just remove his damn turret

[copper fulcrum]

Why does Boris have so many goddamn cosmetics for such a shit specialty

[radiant prism]

Oh its you :)

[safe cypress]

Cause he's old, needs some bonus that keeps him interesting

[copper fulcrum]

Out of all the specialists, I have seen him as T1 a total of one time by another player

[viscid bone]

Haoi aswell

[cloud token]

I dont know why but apparently bullet drop exists at 30m

well for me anyway but the enemy nah

[copper fulcrum]

What gun and build are you using where you have to calculate drop at 30m?

Are you throwing your bullets, my guy?

[cloud token]

aimed on someone and was shooting them but was hitting the wall infront of them apparently, see their whole torso and was aimed at the neck and my shots hit the wall

m4 was being used

[safe cypress]

Honestly, just give me one normal military style looking skin for each specialist that makes them look like a default faceless soldier like in BF4 and i would wear that skin on each, all the time.

Just feels weird having all those character copies all over the Battlefield

[lean spire]

Dumb question: What is a takedown kill?

[safe cypress]

When you get the animation shown when you melee kill someone.

[lean spire]

Why don't they just say Melee kill

[safe cypress]

Then you do a takedown and take their tags.

Cause you can also stab the enemie with the knife and kill them without an animation.

Both is melee tho.

But if something requires a takedown, you need that animation.

Sometimes they just say melee, then usually also Dozer's shield works to count.

So thats the difference.
Takedown = Melee attack animation executed
Melee = and melee attack kill, even without an animation

[azure basalt]

its today no ?

[safe cypress]

Tuesday, yes.

Depends on your time zone.
See #game-news for exact time.

[radiant prism]

Dozer's shield also counts as a melee kill

[azure basalt]

meh tbh i don't mind boris is still in the game the problem is the turret the game doesn't need bot shooting at you without skill.. it also so frustrating even shoot you through a smoke

[radiant prism]

(Not takedown)

[azure basalt]

remove everything that doesn't require you to aim

[safe cypress]

Yup, that's what i just said. Not as takedown tho.

[radiant prism]

ye that is also what I just said :)

[soft dagger]

Yep, it should be completely redesigned and shouldnt have turret

[next onyx]

He's going to still keep his turret but its use as far as I know will be different.

[royal swan]

You mean the completely useless specialist

The one that is straight dogshit

[azure basalt]

you know tf2 engi ? like wrangler

just make him like that

manualy control your own sentry gun

basically like a wilson but stationary

much better

[soft dagger]

true

[azure basalt]

you still need to aim with your own skill actually moving your mouse not let bot shot it for you

[royal swan]

Tomorrow in the morning

[azure basalt]

also lis just make it you control it like in bf 4 sraw

more skill needed

[royal swan]

For me at least not sure what time zone you are in

[azure basalt]

its more fun too

[upbeat sand]

I hope the turret will be more of an assister/distracter that weakens the enemy to a point they'll be to busy shooting the turret to notice you

[hexed mango]

just cause he is weak

[upbeat sand]

It's not too powerful to kill but powerful enough to make a noticable dent that can't be ignored

[azure basalt]

hes weak.. yeah but it so distracting this game already have a lot things that distract you enough

[azure basalt]

true

[upbeat sand]

Turret could go for a rpm boost

[soft dagger]

nope, but due to how mechanics are designed around it

[placid echo]

Boris and Crawford are the only specialists I don't have to T1 at this point, I just don't have fun with Boris and I'm too much of an aggressive player to use Crawford

[crimson basin]

Any portal guns worth unlocking?

[solar tinsel]

the Rex is pretty good, probably the best of the Vault weapons if I recall. I like the P90 and M16A3 too

they're fun to have and mess around with, but don't expect a meta revolving around any of them

[hybrid totem]

Boris needs to be able to upgrade the turret. Silencer, grenade launcher, armor piercing rounds, etc

[crimson basin]

I was just about to unlock p90, already unlocked m16. The rex kinda feels weird in 2042 but it was my favorite sidearm in bf4.

[hybrid totem]

Maybe shotgun turret

[crimson basin]

True, I just play for fun.

[hybrid totem]

Crawford too

[solar tinsel]

Honestly I think DICE gave in a bit too much to catering to nerfing it. I get it, it's a "feels bad" experience to get attacked by an automated anything - but they can't move, they're meant to slow folks down. If players run into them with no cover, thats on them - so I think they nerfed it too much

I was fine with them the way they were, even on the receiving end

[hybrid totem]

As a vehicle main, turrets don't bother me. Which is why I think they should be upgradeable

Then again so should the ranger. And the transport guns

[solar tinsel]

that would be a better passive for him IMO, rather than "standing near it makes it better". Instead, do something like if you hold a button near it for 5 seconds, it gets higher damage and armor

is what it is though, I doubt we'll see major reworks to boris

[hybrid totem]

Also rao needs to be able to hack different aspects of things. Disable weapons, or movement, or just blind them

So much potential in this game

[eager spire]

Disable weapons
Blinding

No.

[vale gale]

Should I turn on dlss for bf2042?

[solar tinsel]

Raos already pretty good. His hack does disrupt infantry gadgets and their view a bit

[hybrid totem]

He should be able to turn equipment to the other team temporarily

[eager spire]

I don’t think he needs any changes.

Like he does not need any more utility than he already has.

[solar tinsel]

It's a cool idea, but at that point it's just changing for the sake of changing

[hybrid totem]

It's all hypothetical. Not like dice will make these changes

[eager spire]

Thank god because your hypotheticals suck

[solar tinsel]

He's generally a very defensive recon, so that change might make him more offensive than he needs to be. Again, it's a wash either way

[hybrid totem]

Great conversation, thanks

[eager spire]

No problem

[solar tinsel]

Toxic

[hybrid totem]

There's a lot of that in this server

[solar tinsel]

of course

[hybrid totem]

I just assume they are 12 and move on

[solar tinsel]

I do agree with the sentiment though, that Rao doesn't need changing

at that point, it's just changing for the sake of

[eager spire]

And as for Boris, I have nothing to really say, I don’t like automated turrets.

[hybrid totem]

A choice between tvm and shoulder mounts TOW would be cool for Lis

[solar tinsel]

Eh, that would kind of reduce her unique role

[hybrid totem]

Your assessment is not very good

[solar tinsel]

Most people don't - that said, they're so easily countered considering they can't move

[eager spire]

TVM should’ve just been the SRAW from BF4.

[solar tinsel]

People don't like dying from something that is "no skill" aka automated, thats why people complained about the turret even when it was honestly fine

[hybrid totem]

Your assessment continues to be subpar

[eager spire]

Why?

[hybrid totem]

All complain, no solution

Even hypothetical

[eager spire]

Replacing the TVM with the SRAW from BF4 isn’t a solution?

[solar tinsel]

At that point that's just personal preference between a TVGM and a WGM

[hybrid totem]

You're also on my shit list already

[solar tinsel]

and admittedly

[hybrid totem]

Don't take it personally, you just have a terrible manner

[eager spire]

It’s not my fault your ideas were bad, don’t take it out on me, man.

[solar tinsel]

Is no different friendly's suggestion than making Rao hacks of enemy gadgets switch orientation - it's a change for the sake of changing

It's not a bad idea, but it also is largely rooted in personal preference

Lis is fine with TVGM, shes fine with a WGM too

[eager spire]

To be fair, my change is purely because the way Lis’s missiles are currently makes her incredibly strong. There was a reason TV missiles were only ever available in vehicles in previous games.

[hybrid totem]

I definitely think they need to add an upper limit to Lis' rocket sensitivity

[eager spire]

Because it’s very easy to hit airborne targets with them.

[hybrid totem]

Eh if you're regularly dying to those scream missiles, you probably shouldn't be flying

[solar tinsel]

Lis really isn't that crazy. Her damage against ground vehicles is pretty weak. Sure, she has some good AA potential but that requires some decent mastery of the missle, and can still be inconsistent

[eager spire]

And also you can hit them from behind complete cover.

[stiff pollen]

Have you tried dodging

[solar tinsel]

yeah they do enough to make their presence known

with lots of AV cues

[eager spire]

I’d just say after replacing it with the SRAW, just make it do more damage to ground vehicles. Would be justified since you would have to maintain eye contact with them to hit them.

[hybrid totem]

And after we get active protection on tanks it won't matter very much

[solar tinsel]

Sure, but again that's pretty subjective. The whole point of a TVGM is that you don't need direct line of sight from player to vehicle

and if someone uses the gadget effectively that way, that's the point

[hybrid totem]

Not like infantry needs more options against vehicles...

[eager spire]

I just don’t think that’s a great idea for balance.

[solar tinsel]

Thankfully 3.2 will make ground vehicles a bit better again, or at least I hope

[solar tinsel]

But what makes that imbalanced?

[royal swan]

They need to update kaleidoscope

[eager spire]

I’m not proposing another option. I’m just trying to make it more balanced.

[hybrid totem]

That's what I hear, yeah. It'll be nice

Uh huh

[solar tinsel]

Balance doesn't equal that targets should only be able to hit targets they can see. Otherwise people would be calling grenades imbalanced

the TVGM doesn't turn crazy fast, requires decent mastery to consistently hit air targets, and a good pilot can still dodge them most times

in turn, it's pretty dang balanced

[hybrid totem]

It does with PC sensitivity, unfortunately

[eager spire]

Like I said, it’s quite easy to take out air vehicles with it, you can do it while being in cover, and you can also do basically free damage to tanks in the same manner, even if it’s not that much, it’s still unavoidable damage for the tank driver.

[solar tinsel]

Ah, on console it seems less then ha

[hybrid totem]

It's not unavoidable. Stop camping so much

[solar tinsel]

Sure, but the rate at which you get hit is typically offset by a repair system, and air vehicles can still dodge them consistently

[hollow iris]

64 players a team try to dodge two of them at the same time, it's a lot harder 3 is near impossible, 4 you can cry yourself to sleep

[eager spire]

I just don’t think giving an operator the ability to damage vehicles from behind cover is justified.

[solar tinsel]

and if someone is gonna hide all day and fire rockets from the back - sure - but that won't be fun

[royal swan]

We have APS, we have counters to the rocket

We have irish

[hybrid totem]

So, c5 is imbalanced?

[solar tinsel]

in all fairness if a team is cooperating to send 2+ TVGMs at a vehicle at once, it should be at a disadvantage

[royal swan]

We have bullets to shoot it down

We have a repair tool

We can survive two rockets

Then they load a long time

[eager spire]

why is C5 relevant? You do know you have to toss that yourself, right?

[royal swan]

In that time we repair full health

[hybrid totem]

Over a wall and out of your sight though

[solar tinsel]

I think the flaw in your reasoning is that you believe the only way players should get kills is with some sort of direct line of sight, and that indirect fire gadgets are "not balanced"

[royal swan]

C5 is fine

[hollow iris]

Yes a disadvantage but it's rarely a coordination more than damn vultures trying to crush my dreams

[solar tinsel]

and I disagree with the premise that indirect is not balanced

[eager spire]

In what situation would a tank just be sitting behind a wall that you can actually toss C5 over?

[royal swan]

That's every argument

[hybrid totem]

One where a tank is... Sitting behind a wall you can throw c5 over

[royal swan]

Almost every argument this guy does involves the player to have direct line of sight to fire

[eager spire]

That does not seem like a realistic scenario to me.

[solar tinsel]

The TVGMs are not an insane meta where everyone is running them, and there are lots of counters to them - therefore it's pretty dang balanced, whether people like the concept or not

[hybrid totem]

... Then you must post here more than you play to have that regular tag lol

[solar tinsel]

In general @eager spire you just don't like automated or indirect weapons, which I mean is your prerogative, but it doesnt mean it's imbalanced

[sharp marten]

True

[eager spire]

Just makes sense to me.

[hollow iris]

Only situation I've seen where it might be op is getting tossed from a guy parachuting from orbit but it doesn't happen often enough, if I see a helicopter or ram drive by I piss myself and run across the map

[royal swan]

Also shotguns

They hate shotguns

[hybrid totem]

Vehicle mines as well

[copper fulcrum]

Guns are OP against knives

[eager spire]

I don’t think automated weapons are unbalanced. I just think they’re annoying.

[royal swan]

They hate the ability for players to one shot close range

[hollow iris]

Killing from where you can't be harmed? Yes it might be op

[copper fulcrum]

MCS-880 finally getting the buff it deserves

[royal swan]

Unless it has a counter

[solar tinsel]

Not OP, it's just indirect. Are grenades OP then?

and yeah as Observer said, if it isnt the sole meta, and has counters

people might call it *cheap * or *cowardly * but that's their opinion of it

[royal swan]

Like mortars, which if added will be countered by lis, Irish, Casper, other mortars, Zain (if close enough), helis, or directly exposure to bullets

[solar tinsel]

Wonder if its only for the default ammo, or all ammo types. Didnt seem clear to me

[hollow iris]

That's like throwing a rock from spawn sure you can't be harmed but you don't cause much either, remote control rocket hurts my feelings deeply a pebble only slightly

[eager spire]

Not as simple as that. There is a bit of nuance to my feelings about this. I don’t like shotguns mainly because they’re easy as fuck to use and can one shot in close quarters. My thing is that it does not require a lot of effort or skill to accomplish this. If someone were to do the same thing with, say, a bolt action rifle, then I wouldn’t have as big of a problem with it because it is significantly harder to do so.

[hybrid totem]

"direct exposure to bullets" lol

The classic counter

[royal swan]

If you flank well

[solar tinsel]

The thing is, loadout and combat situation are important too. If you have an AR and someone has a shotgun within 10m and kills you, yeah you're kind of supposed to be killed more easily

[copper fulcrum]

I don't think Bolt Action Rifles were made to be close combat weapons

[solar tinsel]

Shotguns become drastically less effective at longer ranges

[arctic grove]

no

SHIT

[copper fulcrum]

What kind of shit?

[arctic grove]

gee, you never figured it out?

[hybrid totem]

Flanking is a counter to pretty much everything, that's why I'm so mad at Stranded and Spearhead, and breakthrough in general

[next onyx]

If I wanted a close range instant kill "Bolt action" I'd use a pump action that isn't good at a range.

[solar tinsel]

The issue with the argument of "shotguns kill too easy at close range" is kind of like saying all guns should be exactly the same to make sure it's all balanced.... which is just boring

[copper fulcrum]

Flanking shouldn't be a consideration for a weapon's performance tbh

[hollow iris]

MAN FUCK BUCKSHOT GIVE ME THOSE SEXY SLUGS THE 45,70 IS LAME >:(

[next onyx]

And speaking about that. I want to see how much better it'll be.

[solar tinsel]

If someone wants to try a noscope bolt action headshot within 10m for swag reasons, thats on them - but I don't see merit in complaining "someone with a shotgun killed me and it was too easy for them because of it"

it's like, yeah thats the point - you equip yourself with the best gear for the combat scenario and make it as easy for you as possible

[eager spire]

Well I mean you have to fuck up massively to lose in a close quarters engagement with a shotgun. Like, it’s dead fucking simple to do that with a shotgun, and it doesn’t matter how good the person on the receiving end is.

[solar tinsel]

I mean, what if both players have a shotgun?

[hollow iris]

Then it's a fun lobby

[solar tinsel]

But if the "skilled player" has a bolt action and the "unskilled player" has a shotgun, yes the unskilled player should have an advantage in CQB.

[eager spire]

At that point it’s basically a matter of who notices the other person first.

[solar tinsel]

Then why didn't the "skilled player" have more situational awareness?

Battlefield has always been more than just who can control raw inputs better

it's about situational awareness, teamplay, your loadout

[copper fulcrum]

At least they/them dogtags isn't talking like a certain someone from earlier today lol ( a certain "iNfLuEnCeR" )

[eager spire]

It could really go either way in that scenario.

[solar tinsel]

Sure: being skilled at aiming and movement helps a bunch, and will help swing the scale in one direction

but I disagree with the premise that an encounter has a guaranteed outcome where the "better player" always wins

[mental cave]

im under the influence

[solar tinsel]

there are more variables

[copper fulcrum]

I am partially there lol

[mental cave]

we’re both influencers then

[copper fulcrum]

Sunday drinking is a thing

okay what the hell is that emoji

[mental cave]

wrong emote

[upbeat sand]

What is going on here

[solar tinsel]

thats hilarious

[eager spire]

Eh. I’m generally in favor of things that reward people for playing better. Shotguns just don’t, really.

[copper fulcrum]

As someone who owns a shotgun in real life

skill issue

[eager spire]

Ok?

[solar tinsel]

I mean, in one particular combat scenario I suppose. But if a player is using a shit weapon in CQB, that's not "playing better" either

Again skill is more than just who can aim better

[void hedge]

what if I don't have to aim?

[solar tinsel]

If a god-tier aimer is running through an open field like a dingus, and a total noob posts up with a bipod LMG in cover and shreds them up, are we calling LMGs OP?

[void hedge]

better not, don't trash my style

[solar tinsel]

haha I would never dare

[eager spire]

I mean even the most skilled player in the world would die to a shotgun rando just running up on them while they’re busy doing other things.

Also, don’t really care for bipods.

[solar tinsel]

but that assumes the skilled player was unable (or failed to) to hear the player literally running up on them

[copper fulcrum]

Now what if I put a bipod on my shotgun?

[eager spire]

Do i think LMG’s are OP, eh, not really.

[void hedge]

my only big gripe with gun balance is the NTW50 having worse drop than the other snipers, it makes no sense at all

[eager spire]

Likely due to audio from said other things they were doing.

[solar tinsel]

It's more of an Anti-Material rifle than a "Sniper"

[upbeat sand]

I swear the spearhead map trailer has the D point explode

Where is that

[solar tinsel]

well then shit they should have been paying more attention. If they were distracted thats on them

[copper fulcrum]

DICE pls

[void hedge]

but it kinda sucks as an anti-material rifle, it is in the same class as "snipers" and a real .50 has bonkers range.

[chilly jacinth]

it doesnt even break cover

[void hedge]

the Rorsch does everything the ntw does, but better

[solar tinsel]

Well, if it did insane damage AND had the same drop as other snipers - it becomes a best in slot no?

[eager spire]

Even if the good player was doing everything right, they still would die if the shotgun player got in the close range, because even if the good player started to shoot at him, all he would need to do is shoot once and the good player would be dead.

[void hedge]

sure, but a long reload(and rechamber), small mag can easily offset that

[eager spire]

You can’t just get away from a shotgun player that quickly. Unless you’re Mackey with a grapple hook then maybe.

[solar tinsel]

Thats the point of shotguns

[copper fulcrum]

Ninja Vanish, smoke bomb

[solar tinsel]

Sounds like you just wouldnt want shotguns in the game which

ok fine I guess, but again it takes out variety

[eager spire]

I’d personally take more SMG’s in the game over shotguns.

[solar tinsel]

Perhaps - but I think that just makes them slower more than balanced.

[lunar finch]

yeah but do shotguns really matter in 2042 because how often are u in a situation so tight u cant just put distance between u and the player. skill issue imo

[eager spire]

The point of them is to be an equalizer. Something that always makes CQB combat a gamble.

Even a level 30 on his Xbox can’t fuck it up.

[solar tinsel]

until they get in any combat encounter beyond 20m

[eager spire]

I mean I can think of plenty of scenarios where you can’t put distance, but that’s in other games, I am well aware that 2042 does not have that many tight CQB areas.

[eager spire]

Then they’ll just never do that. They’ll just camp.

[solar tinsel]

Ok great, so they have decided to lock down a particular base (or other CQB area). There are so many ways to flush out that player

find another vantage, throw a grenade, use an airburst...

[copper fulcrum]

or ignore

[solar tinsel]

yes or that!

It sounds like you believe that the skilled player should be able to charge in and win 100% of the time, and that if the shotgun player wins that they "did not deserve" to win the encounter

even though the more skilled player had tons of other options

and sure, it sucks to get killed by someone camping a base because you didn't expect it or see it coming

but shit, players aren't entitled to win any given encounter or something

and besides, once you get killed you know where they are

[next onyx]

I got that stupid model 37 to 10K and I will never do it again.

[solar tinsel]

easy follow-up

[eager spire]

I’m not saying they’re entitled to winning the encounter, I’m just saying that it shouldn’t be so damn easy for it to happen.

[solar tinsel]

but then isnt your argument that shotguns should not be effective in close quarters?

[eager spire]

I’m saying it shouldn’t be so dead simple to use a shotgun. Like you shouldn’t just be able to hipfire people and get oneshots.

[upbeat sand]

Welp I'm back on the T1 grind

When does the season end

[next onyx]

In 7 weeks.

[eager spire]

If that means I’m saying they should be less effective then so be it

[next onyx]

The pump time for the 880 increases the drawback when you miss a round.

I think that's a good way to balance it.

[upbeat sand]

I just realised Zain has prosthetic legs

[solar tinsel]

well to each their own I suppose

[eager spire]

I’d make the hipfire spread wider and make it so you have to ADS to get oneshots on top of that personally

[copper fulcrum]

Ableists: "We must riot in the streets!"

[upbeat sand]

It even says how he got em in a player card

It's on the "step into the future" one

[copper fulcrum]

"They should've learned their lesson with BFV's trailer!"

[eager spire]

Prosthetic legs are neat as shit.

Actually just prosthetic limbs in general

[copper fulcrum]

Prosthetics offer no tactical advantage whatosever.

But it's cool to be in a game

[upbeat sand]

They should give Zain where he just has them full out

No long pants

[copper fulcrum]

You want him in shorts?

[royal swan]

No thanks, I like to feel comfortable with my meat leg

[eager spire]

Booty shorts

:V

[copper fulcrum]

Boxers

[upbeat sand]

Dosent make a difference legs aint flesh

[copper fulcrum]

they/them getting excited at seeing Zain in a speedo

[upbeat sand]

The time crimes card's description just says "we don't come in peace"

That's it

[eager spire]

nah I just think it’d be funny

[copper fulcrum]

Beach Lifeguard Bundle for Zain lol

[upbeat sand]

Robin boy wonder

[eager spire]

Just throw all seriousness out the window

But only do it once

And then never mention it again

[copper fulcrum]

Dozer but it's just the mask

just the mask

[upbeat sand]

The tour of duty cards look very nice

Like fidelity and graphics are beautiful

[next onyx]

Petition to make it so you can parry your shotgun pellets right as you fire and cause an explosion.

[upbeat sand]

Wot

[eager spire]

V1 as a specialist in 2042

[next onyx]

Or to throw a coin, shoot it and automatically deck someone's head.

[eager spire]

Passive ability, Health regen when shooting an enemy point blank

[next onyx]

Can't regen any other way.

[eager spire]

Active ability, revolver coin

[next onyx]

Kind of like black eye from halo.

Where your shields only regen when you damage an enemy.

[eager spire]

Ultrakill reference

[void hedge]

next specialist has Moonshoes and a gravity hammer

[copper fulcrum]

Let's add Dead Eye from Red Dead as a gameplay mechanic

[eager spire]

Draw!

[void hedge]

better yet, no Moonshoes, they just have a Pogo stick

[upbeat sand]

I don't like how it is implied that Dozer has children

[royal swan]

Russian roulette ability, 50/50 chance to kill the nearest enemy player or die

[upbeat sand]

Someone did dozer

[placid echo]

Dozer has a wife

Falck and Irish when reviving him reference this

[upbeat sand]

He even has the player card from S2

[placid echo]

"Your wife will KILL me if she knew I let you die" Irish to Dozer

[upbeat sand]

It actually tells you what his family member's names

But in what order

[royal swan]

Why have we been seeing a lot of content creators in chat

It rarely happens

[eager spire]

Hm?

[upbeat sand]

Cause it says "Isabel, Raquel and Rafa. His family. His courage. His sheild."

[eager spire]

Only seen one.

[royal swan]

I seen two or three different ones today

[eager spire]

Again with this

[royal swan]

And one like a yesterday or a few days ago

[upbeat sand]

Isn't the destruction a balance thing

[eager spire]

Probably

[upbeat sand]

Like how in bfv you can mildly destory a house but never fully

There needs to be cover there

[royal swan]

They need to add more destructible buildings

The houses on hourglass are destructible

[eager spire]

To be honest I could take or leave map destruction.

[upbeat sand]

1 ladder and a table

Perfect housing

[royal swan]

Destruction is like a key feature, one of those things that defines what is a battlefield game or similar

[upbeat sand]

Actually thinking of it everything probably got packed up after the evac in hourglass

God dammit I got stranded 3 times in a row

[copper fulcrum]

Stop getting lost

[upbeat sand]

4 times if including yesterday

[arctic grove]

That SEEMS fun

[upbeat sand]

That would be abused as shi

[arctic grove]

Till you really needed to use that elevator

[royal swan]

Ahhh poor joke.

[arctic grove]

Anything the enemy can exploit to delay you they’ll probably destroy at the beginning of the match, like a elevator wire

[upbeat sand]

It'll definitely cause people to camo by an elevator and wait

What if the building is on the inside

And you can't get inside

[royal swan]

The building is on the inside

If c2 skyscraper in kaleidoscope could levolution I'll be happy

[upbeat sand]

If they did bring back levelution I would like to see the C point on exposure collapse

[royal swan]

That building is hard to attack, so making it have a levolution would be appreciated

[upbeat sand]

And the C is then moved to the bottom area by the trees

Hourglass could have the middle of the map point collapse

Or the bridge

Breakaway could have the oil rig area completely explode

[royal swan]

Or just have the ice break upon the oil rig as the oil rig will be moved next to the iceberg

[upbeat sand]

Kelidescope could have the A point tower fall down like shanghi

[upbeat sand]

Neat

Everyone just knows renewal should have

CASPIAN FUCING BORDERRRRRRR

[dusk hedge]

Is bf1 for ps Dead? Bcs i See no Server in Europe on my ps4 and get 120ms Lobbys

[mental cave]

yes

if its not a new game, chances of the servers being empty on console is very high

[charred stag]

Oh for battlefield?

Nope

Battlefield 1 is still kicking on console

At least on Xbox

Played a few weeks ago and it didn't take long to find a game

[upbeat sand]

I hear hardline console still has some kicks

Not for pc tho

[charred stag]

Hardline console nope

The only mode you find people play are either heist or hotwire

Rarely hotwire. It's mostly heist

And it's usually just clan players so it's a sweat fest

Same with V except V has more players to it than hardline. But of the three,one has the most amount of players playing

[dusk hedge]

On Console?

[charred stag]

On console yeah

Xbox specifically. PC I don't know

If you want to look for players,check the server browser

[dusk hedge]

I have Xbox and PlayStation But my 1 Account is on PlayStation

[dusk hedge]

It Shows me no Matches in Europe

I get NA Servers With high Ping

[charred stag]

Ah...well I guess that's your best bet unfortunately. I play on NA servers so I don't get a high ping

[dusk hedge]

maybe it was because of the time it was 2am on a work day

[charred stag]

That's probably but even then. If there's 0 players I doubt you'll really find anyone during the day

[tacit sorrel]

Hardline is pretty much dead on Ps4 last I checked there’s only 1-2 maps on loop and it was eu

[dark stirrup]

there needs to be a bigger incentive to reviving

[arctic grove]

Reviving and resupplying is an easy top 5-10 on the leaderboard if that helps

yknow just in case you wanna be higher ranked than the guy who went 94-2 /j

[solar obsidian]

play falk, use ammo box and spotter nade, instant mvp

[formal imp]

Today is Monday bruh

[solar obsidian]

tuesday

[formal imp]

Its Garfield hours

[hexed mango]

go 0-0 with 200 revives

resupply doesn’t put you on the scoreboard fyi

[solar obsidian]

assist does 😄 reason to self sustain the spotter nade 😄

[upbeat sand]

Outlaster makay makes him look like:

[stray surge]

I got all excited for this update until I read the patch notes. Still no class system?!

[arctic grove]

YES, where classes ?

[upbeat sand]

This is still 3.1

It's the 3.1.2 update

Class update is in 3.2

[stray surge]

....

I was under the impression it was going to be in January

[upbeat sand]

It's the update after this

Still this month

Not February

[stray surge]

We were lied to

[arctic grove]

They said it was at the end of January

[upbeat sand]

No you just can't read

[stray surge]

Oh no I can read

[upbeat sand]

It did say 3.1.2 not 3.2

[stray surge]

I'm just trying to separate fact from fiction over here

[upbeat sand]

This is most likely probably a update to get the 3.2 update ready for the class syste,

People gotta stop thinking 3.1.2 is 3,2

[dire quest]

So we got an update...but no playlist change?

[stoic bridge]

game down?

[dire quest]

Nah

Update just went live

[stoic bridge]

just patched figure it may have some maintenance time

ah sweet ill relog

EA is giving me a weird "unable to sync" error hmm

[dire quest]

Nothing too big in this update

[stoic bridge]

yeah just portal stuff aye

[dire quest]

6 weapons for 1942

[stoic bridge]

oh nice

I got to speak to a 1942 dev the other day (Forgot his name lol) but he was great

[upbeat sand]

That'll probably happen when the weekly's release

[stoic bridge]

oh sweet im in

oh his name was Rob

works for embark now

well a few months ago but it was a good convo aha

[upbeat sand]

I wonder what their doing over there

[dire quest]

Bet we getting a 1942 playlist with the 6 new guns for 1942

[shy perch]

When is 3.2?

[upbeat sand]

Their 2 game trailers for the 2 games are extremely retro style

Like Atari colours

[stoic bridge]

working in the finals game

yee

[upbeat sand]

Laster this month

[stoic bridge]

played the playtest its pretty bloody good

[shy perch]

Oooooh cant wait

Hopes no delays

[upbeat sand]

Nah no delays

[stoic bridge]

well the game isnt called star citizen so sure no delays

[upbeat sand]

People are just getting confused by the hotfix we just got

[shy perch]

Shits got me dying haha

[dire quest]

Do people play 1942 enough to warrant the 6 guns for it?

[upbeat sand]

Aright

I'm updated

Gonna go into a 1942 match and see these

[stoic bridge]

XD play the crap out of star citizen know allll about delays HAHA

[shy perch]

Still happy for a hotfix sad they haven’t fixed the pipe glitch causing you to get stuck in the spearhead vents

[upbeat sand]

Since this is a small patch I'd say get ready for a bigger one

In the style of the past major updates

[shy perch]

Just use Mackay on that map incase you do get stuck the grapple gets you out

[shy perch]

Sounds good

[upbeat sand]

Wait we got the 12g auto shotgun in 1942

I don't remember that in the patches

[dire quest]

I'm guessing they're adding more vault weapons so they have more to bring over to aow

[shy perch]

They dis say six items were being added

[dire quest]

6 new guns for 1942

[upbeat sand]

Geuss I missed it on the list

[dire quest]

That could've been 6 new guns to aow tho

[upbeat sand]

Ok small problem

You can switch to the new guns

[shy perch]

Wdym?

[upbeat sand]

Clicking on them will just make you spawn with the last gun you had

[shy perch]

They not in the collection?

[upbeat sand]

They are in the collection

And in the spawn menu

You just can't click on it

It dosent have the lock on it

[chilly jacinth]

we will get more guns to AOW

[pine roost]

trying out the update, the sight still does that thing where it jumps a considerable distance after firing for a short while

[slender isle]

Hey beans, it's a spawn menu issue. You can spawn with them when forced using rules editor.

[shy perch]

I restarted my game twice the message still there and no changes to see that just me or?

[pine roost]

the actual recoil control does feel better, I think it's just the visual element that's not been changed yet

[broken horizon]

how long for update

[upbeat sand]

How do I do dat

[slender isle]

AA4M76

[upbeat sand]

Aright

[slender isle]

This spawns you in with the Sten and revolver

[broken horizon]

is the update live?

[dire quest]

Yes

[slender isle]

Yes

[shy perch]

My game being annoying and not applying the patch 💀

[broken horizon]

thanks

uh no 💀

im about to update

[azure basalt]

do you need to unlocked the new 1942 weapon or its just unlocked automaticly?

[slender isle]

Unlocked automatically it seems

[upbeat sand]

Oh my

[azure basalt]

really?

[upbeat sand]

The sten empty reload is

Something

[azure basalt]

what ?

what happened

how you play the new gun

@upbeat sand

[upbeat sand]

You just have them unlocked

No need to do stuff

[azure basalt]

oh i thought you need to do stuff

how tho

you make your own server?

[upbeat sand]

You can see them in the collections

Go to collection, then collections then choose 1942

[azure basalt]

okay but how you actually play it with bots ?

or with other player ? like conquest or TDM 1942?

[upbeat sand]

Portal

[upbeat sand]

How do I force the game to do the other guns

[pine roost]

after some short testing I can definitely say the recoil feels better. There is still a slight glitch where the sight pulls down really fast for no reason but it's far more consistent

but from what I can tell that is purely visual, the movements of screen centre are mostly consistent when that happens

[upbeat sand]

Awww the gewehr just uses the 12m auto reload

[pine roost]

it is comical how long it takes to get into a match

I'm booting up a singleplayer testing lobby and I had the time to get dressed before I could do anything

[low timber]

12g Automatico was also added into the 1942 weapons

[tame hamlet]

Game updated

Glad the game is being fixed

[upbeat sand]

Weapons seem to be semi unfinished

The audio dosent match with the reload and has no spawn animation

[wary portal]

Man goddamn it I want those wwii weapons as vault weapons. This is bullshish.

[pastel loom]

https://mp1st.com/title-updates-and-patches/battlefield-2042-update-1-25-deployed-for-patch-3-1-2-this-jan-17

[upbeat sand]

Ey the MK revolver also has the Rex spin

[pastel loom]

Weapons

Fixed some cases of recoil compensation not being consistent upon firing for prolonged periods of time

[upbeat sand]

2 eastee eggs

[pastel loom]

the rorsch only deal half the damage to heavy vehicles now

[cedar shell]

What does it mean in the updates and patches "the return to classes" does that mean specialists will be removed?

[umbral island]

No, the specialists will stay, they will just be reworked in a class system

[next onyx]

Oh yuck they added in the 12G automatic.

[wary portal]

Is it gonna make it better or worse?

[azure basalt]

any1 can give some of the reload animations really curios

for the 1942 new guns of course

[umbral island]

I don’t know really. Assault seems it will be kinda too op

[azure basalt]

on paper yeah

[pine roost]

yeah this change has kind of indirectly buffed everything

[azure basalt]

we really need to try it and getting the feeling of it

[umbral island]

It is tho. Dozer for less explosive damage and you can use med pens and armor at the same time

And you get more magazines as assault for assault guns

Everyone will just play Assault

Cuz there is no other reason to play anything else

[azure basalt]

really ? you think

[umbral island]

Yes

[azure basalt]

no one going to use m5 recoilles?

[umbral island]

Well a few engineers

[azure basalt]

also you know that they will add more gadget

[umbral island]

I know

It wont change much

[azure basalt]

for the engineers so theres other launcer option

nah

[umbral island]

It only adds 1 new launcher

The javelin

[azure basalt]

it will change significantly for the game

[umbral island]

Well most people will play assault anyway

[azure basalt]

dont think people only going to use assault just because they have a really good kit

[umbral island]

And a few engineer

Maybe some support for ammo

No one will play recon

[azure basalt]

i mean you can't even destroy a a heli with asssault heck you can with mackay graple and c4 the heli but its not that often

[umbral island]

The recon is so trash compared to the others

[azure basalt]

oh their will be recon

people use rao to counter helis

or tanks

[umbral island]

Yeah but who uses a sniper as Rao

Same with Paik

[azure basalt]

its just stupid to think people use assault just because it have a really good gadgets for me atleast mackay will get its stafe nerf

[umbral island]

It will tho

[azure basalt]

it means i finally can play other than mackay

[next onyx]

How's it feel to aim?

[azure basalt]

there is

[umbral island]

Yeah

1 guy

[azure basalt]

even paik plenty actually

[umbral island]

😱😱😱

I’ve never seen a Paik use a sniper

Paik is more for close range

[azure basalt]

lmao probably its just different region

[umbral island]

Anyways, Assault will be the superior class and it will ruin teamplay

[azure basalt]

it always is

[umbral island]

Cuz they don’t need ammo or healing anymore

[azure basalt]

even right now

mackay is just more superior

with that fast strafing

[umbral island]

Yeah but it will be worse

Cuz they don’t need a support anymore

They should’ve put more time in balancing the classes

[azure basalt]

i use mackay and i can say even before class system i still don't need ammo or heal because i can just use stims and just take other people ammo on the ground when they dies

[azure basalt]

its already season 3 how long you think they need

season 5? just after they going to focus on the next game ?

[pine roost]

soooo much better. It doesn't feel half as muddy, at long range it's a huge change. There's still some left over after firing a really long burst but that seems to be visual.

[umbral island]

Well they didn’t put alot of time in it for sure. They just came up with a few buffs for the classes

[pine roost]

well I've got to get some uni work done, needs to be submitted by 3 😬

[umbral island]

Like, c’mon. Who uses a sniper as Paik when it’s far better with smg, Support will have less use, assault will be far more superior to any other class

They didn’t really think about it

[next onyx]

I'm just messing around with the 1942 weapons and they're cool.

[umbral island]

They just looked at community suggestions and said that’s a good idea

[next onyx]

I need to see what the 880 is like.

[pine roost]

heck I use a sniper with mackay for the strafe speed

[next onyx]

Aggro recons on bad co 2 would run motion balls with a thompson.

We need to see what balance changes they did.

[umbral island]

Well temporyal already leaked them

[pine roost]

but they've changed, twice. It's so up in the air that by the time it actually comes out it could be different

so making assumptions right now might not be the best thing

[umbral island]

Fair, but this was quite recent. I doubt they will change much

[next onyx]

That's a leak that isn't official.

[umbral island]

Update is almost here

[umbral island]

Did temporyal leak anything false?

[next onyx]

The leaked perks that's all.

[umbral island]

Everything he leaked turned out to be true

[pine roost]

even if he got the proficiencies right, they keep changing. he might be right, but it could also be changed tomorrow

[next onyx]

Not all of what temp has leaked has been true.

[pine roost]

stealth bomber for example

thank goodness

[next onyx]

He originally dug up a suicide rocket for the pacific and they did not add that.

[umbral island]

Might be cancelled🤷‍♂️

There was a bomber icon on the mini map

[next onyx]

Dice never really technically announced those "new" changes.

Yeah that's the bomber but as far as we know it isn't usable.

[pine roost]

it's just a loading screen prop

[umbral island]

Well so it was true

[next onyx]

He's dug up the badges for the new portal guns but they haven't been released "yet"

There's a badge for the bomber saying it's usable but it isn't.

These new perks for the classes have not been announced yet.

[umbral island]

It’s probably cancelled or future content

[broken horizon]

looking forward to squad points

[fervent cape]

bruh bf2042 sucks compared to bf1. i still enjoy bf2042 but it just aint it compared to bf4 or bf 1

[next onyx]

Well we don't know that it's been cancelled or delayed.

[umbral island]

Yes

[fervent cape]

wheres the destruction

and bf1 looks imo way better than 2042

[umbral island]

It does

Bf2042 is a step backwards imo

[fervent cape]

yeah i think so too. even though ive gotten to level 60 on bf 2042 already

[next onyx]

So as it turns out they didn't mean to add the 12G automatic.

[fervent cape]

i loved bf1 operations

playing at 200% internal resolution all at ultra at 120fps is crazy

and bf4 is still crazy fun

just wish it had better textures ngl lmao

and newer servers

[umbral island]

It’s EA’s test game to see how much they can earn without releasing any content

Activision is doing the same with MW2

[fervent cape]

you wouldve thought after bfv got shit on then they wouldve put more work in 2042. thing is they hyped 2042 to be like a next gen bf4 but it really aint

like theres literally barely any destruction like they showed in the trailers

and development shit

ngl main game im hyped for is arc raiders

[umbral island]

Money cares more than gameplay for the developers nowadays

There is more cosmetics than actual useful stuff

[remote kiln]

nowadays

sorry to burst your bubble dude

it's been that way since game development existed

[umbral island]

Nah

Black Ops 2 was a perfect game

Same with Black Ops 1

And Battlefield 3

[remote kiln]

and it still wanted your money lol

[azure basalt]

can i get a code? for playing with the new guns in 1942

[fervent cape]

in bf4 it was focused on the dlc maps and not cosmetics for money

[remote kiln]

nobody cares about you personally my guy

[umbral island]

With content not cosmetics

[remote kiln]

as long as they get your money that's all they care about

[fervent cape]

bf2042 fanboi

[remote kiln]

which you physically had to pay for to get content

[fervent cape]

i would never pay for bf2042

[remote kiln]

it gates half the community into different servers

[fervent cape]

i just play on gamepass lmao

[umbral island]

It gave more content then it does with this season stuff

[azure basalt]

you pay it or not you still playing the game which just making them money lol

[remote kiln]

cause it's physical cash