battlefield-2042

[crude surge]

I like the new airburst launcher for all that

[eager spire]

again, another thing that was not in this game for a year that hasn't really harmed the game in it's absense

[royal swan]

What's wrong with impact grenades

[crude surge]

I'd be ok with impact grenades but I'd be ok without them too

[royal swan]

I actually don't see how impact grenades are op in any way

[crude surge]

I remember in BF3 they were the grenade of choice by far

[royal swan]

They are usually less explosive than actual grenades

[eager spire]

"uhh i can't get the kill on someone and they jumped behind a corner, i'll just toss the impact nade and kill them anyway"

[royal swan]

Most likely to get a hit marker instead of a kill with impact grenades

[crude surge]

Yeah the impact nades were life savers in building fights with blind corners

[eager spire]

Be able to successfully get away from someone who was doing a lot of damage to you
Start trying to heal
Impact nade

[royal swan]

That's clearly a fair kill for the enemy

[crude surge]

That's also exactly why they were rampant in BF3

[eager spire]

imagine not fucking pushing someone with low HP

[crude surge]

You couldn't avoid it or toss it back

You just died

[royal swan]

They could or they can save time and their life by throwing a weaker version of the grenade to kill off the player they already put bullets in

It's fair

[tough wolf]

it's not

[crude surge]

I just don't know how many more explosive tools 2042 needs at this point

[tough wolf]

noob tier equipment

[royal swan]

It's not even op

[tough wolf]

i agree

[crude surge]

Hey if you can't counter noob equipment you must also be a noob tbh

[tough wolf]

it's still super lame and unfun to play against (like claymores)

[royal swan]

Sounds like a skill issue

[tough wolf]

COPE

[eager spire]

It's a bitch move. You can't even kill someone in a direct engagement so you just cheap out and don't even push them when they try to get away?

[royal swan]

I never gotten killed in full health by a impact grenade

[eager spire]

Of course you haven't, but that's not the point.

[crude surge]

flashbacks to BF3 getting direct impacted constantly with impact grenades

[eager spire]

I never implied that the impact nade was OP, i just implied that it's very annoying

[crude surge]

We used them like throwing knives

[eager spire]

because it is

[royal swan]

Maybe the enemy should've finished the fight instead of running away like a coward bitch

Maybe instead he could had a chance before being punished for it by the impact grenade

[tough wolf]

yeah what it really is:

be a bad player
shoot 28/31 of your bullets at man
hit 3 of them
he retreats cuz u let him get away cuz ur bad
u throw impact nade at the corner u just saw him go behind
u kill him
"Ha, I showed that noob! 😎 "

[eager spire]

Running out of ammo
Range isn't good enough on your gun
You're being suppressed
You already had low health before the fight started

[crude surge]

Retreating isn't always a coward bitch move

[eager spire]

there are valid reasons to disengage from someone.

[royal swan]

Sounds like a fuck position that people shouldn't be in in the first place

[crude surge]

Sometimes pulling back to your teammates saves your life

[tough wolf]

yeah this all just sounds like bad player cope. hoping they'll add some more low skill floor items to the game that you can abuse to compensate for your lack of skill

[royal swan]

Sounds like they should die and respawn

[crude surge]

Folks seem to want battlefield to play like call of duty now with all this aggressive pushing and zero regard for death and the fact that it counts against your team

[royal swan]

Honestly the impact grenade in 2042 is the throwing knife but more skill

[eager spire]

I don't choose the situations i end up in, man, I just try to deal with them in the best way i can think of.

[crude surge]

The 2042 throwing knife is wild I still don't know how I feel about it

[tough wolf]

[royal swan]

Well it's a position that should be taken advantage of by other players

[eager spire]

Battlefield has always been large scale Call of Duty with vehicles. It was basically MW19 Ground War before that came out.

[tough wolf]

let me get this straight: are you saying that impact nades take more skill to use than throwing knives?

[royal swan]

Oh I low health and low ammo, It sounds like an easy kill to me

[tough wolf]

just wanna make sure

[royal swan]

No, the opposite

[tough wolf]

ok.

cool

[royal swan]

It's another finisher

[crude surge]

It's also been conventionally slower gameplay than CoD titles until recently

[royal swan]

The impact grenade and the throwing knife is just a finisher move

[eager spire]

...Oh you're on xbox, okay

so you don't know about BF4.

[crude surge]

I know very well about BF4 it was insanely quick

It's part of why I didn't play much of it

[tough wolf]

how are throwing knives a finisher move?
See: https://streamable.com/l0600s

[dapper river]

"More" skill
has splash damage
yea no

[arctic grove]

cod3 had mini battlefield

[royal swan]

The knife is more skill

[eager spire]

It started being like how i described around BF3, to be honest.

[royal swan]

It's an instant kill when hit, so a finisher move

[tough folio]

cod is pretty trash ngl

[royal swan]

The impact grenade is a finisher if you already damage the guy and just want to quickly end it

[dapper river]

Just shoot him then rofl

[acoustic oar]

got a triple kill with a impact nade yesterday in bfv

[royal swan]

But the guy is running like a bitch and almost out of sight

[crude surge]

BF3 is still my ideal battlefield game, especially considering that's when call of duty starting getting all jetpacks and future tech around that time and the pace of the CoD franchise stayed fast af. Playing MW today feels like trying to play apex with all the twitchy fast firefights

[dapper river]

Should killed him faster lolmao

[tough wolf]

kill him before he runs

[royal swan]

Sounds like three dudes sucking each other off if you got a triple

[acoustic oar]

ye they were hugging a corner

[crude surge]

The BFV impact nade is definitely one of the more unfair versions of the impact nade it has a wicked blast radius

Shit most explosives in BFV felt like really big blasts

[royal swan]

It's those second fights, it's not that the player is bad at shooting it's that the enemy has quick reflexes and moved before getting killed

[eager spire]

BF3 frankly has not aged well, and i still think BF4 is my ideal BF game. It's not perfect, there is some bullshit, but i generally like how it plays.

[acoustic oar]

You have way less explosive spam than lets say bf1 and the grenades take longer to explode. You can cook them though and shoot them in mid air

[tough wolf]

it's that the enemy has quick reflexes and moved before getting killed
that's like a verbal admission of skill issue

straight up saying: the guy has GOOD reflexes, and made a GOOD decision....

[crude surge]

Definitely less explosive spam but the explosives seemed more effective at the same time a grenade was significantly more devastating than it felt in BF1 or 2042

[royal swan]

Quick

Quick decision

[eager spire]

He had quick reflexes! I need a way to nullify that immediately!

[royal swan]

It's on the seconds, you couldn't kill them with bullets because that's the max amount of bullets you can hit as they get out of sight

[acoustic oar]

Hmm I think they are not as good as in bf1. Dynamite from the assault is good but the frag grenades you can even throw back if you are quick enough

[crude surge]

BF4 just felt like an expansion of BF3 in a bad way for me but I grew up on old school battlefield games and BF4 was a shift away from the old way of army shooters

[arctic grove]

somehow the mechanics in 3 were its prime time

4 improved some stuff

[crude surge]

BF4 wasn't a bad game by any means but it didn't have the magic of 3

[arctic grove]

at least 4 brought back Commander

[eager spire]

I don't care about whatever the "old way of army shooters" was, to be frank. BF4 was fast, required good aim and fast reflexes, and just generally rewarded skilled play for the most part.

[royal swan]

It just sounds like excuses to argue against me as apparently it's a skill issue to not kill someone in 1 second of seeing and shooting. Smh imagine

[crude surge]

It tailored to meta using players more than any other, battlefield before BF4 felt like a complex game of rock paper scissors where every class felt like it was weak one way or another and BF4 came around and now instead of rock paper scissors you got rocket spam and sniper fights out the wazoo is all

[tough folio]

sounds like you play hardcore, or dont have good aim

[royal swan]

The only gun that can kill in one second is a shotgun and most likely most of y'all bitch about it because you can't compete with it with your smg

[royal swan]

Fuck hardcore

It's literally a second

[crude surge]

I enjoyed playing BF4 for a while I just lost interest, if I was going to play such a fast paced shooter I was gonna play something more like quake at that time instead of BF4

[eager spire]

I mean, acting like BF3 wasn't tailored to meta users as well is a bit dishonest, tbh. Do I need to remind you about the M16A3?

[tough folio]

people who play hardcore are clearly milsim boomers

[royal swan]

A really quick jump out and run in a corner

[eager spire]

Plus, playing the meta was not a requirement to do well in BF4. Most of the skill gap was in the movement, frankly.

[royal swan]

Or people that struggle with the low ttk

[crude surge]

I'm not saying it didn't but the M16 users still didn't feel as much of a one man wrecking crew, I could still feel useful with an MG or a sniper in BF3 and I feel useless with non meta weapons in BF4

[spiral folio]

Bf1s hardcore was ok as long as there's no vehicles. Cause damage TO vehicles was not increased but damage FROM was

[tough folio]

ttk in 2042 is pretty quick

[arctic grove]

is it a problem when I pay attention to the map more and generally not sprint around obliviously?

[eager spire]

I think that is a personal issue, i don't know what else to say about that.

[royal swan]

Mmmmm, I can't kill this guy immediately so it's unfair.

Waaa

[crude surge]

Sprinting gets me killed more often than I'd normally admit

[arctic grove]

one bloke blindly ran in to my claymore after he killed m

me

[royal swan]

It's slow compared to games like cod

More forgiving

[crude surge]

That's fine it was always my personal issue with 4 that's why 3 is so much more attractive to me as an old dad who played BF3 ages ago

[eager spire]

Fair enough.

[spiral folio]

Yea footsteps on metal
Sniping and i hear
[Bong bing bong bing bong!!] Time to go

[arctic grove]

the funny part was the clay was not behind a wall, literally in front of him as he ran towards it

got em

[royal swan]

Getting killed by a claymore hidden behind a wall is one thing, getting killed by a claymore in the open fat skill issue

[crude surge]

Low-key the mines stand out so bad on 2042

[tough folio]

well i dont consider cod to exists. its a lame af game and has been till after b03

[hexed mango]

yet people still dont see em

[eager spire]

You know what's funny in BF1? Running around tripwires in BF1 and killing the people that put them down.

[arctic grove]

he must have use high ass FOV

[spiral folio]

In p4f claymores were bugged so you could set em off from a ladder and not be damaged so

They were a pain to use

[eager spire]

MW19 was the closest that modern CoD got to being good

[hexed mango]

that's basically all of p4f

[crude surge]

The tripwires were a joke I don't think i ever got more than 10 kills in all my time playing BF1

[royal swan]

Bf1 tripwires are so easy to spot

[arctic grove]

I do agree. 19 revived the goodness in the series. MW3 was the last good title

[crude surge]

MW19 is what brought me back to CoD, I'm sad that MW2 ruined me again

[acoustic oar]

They are pretty good tbh. On some spot on some maps I manage to get tripple kills sometimes

[spiral folio]

Bf1s randomly generated trip cable

[arctic grove]

we will see COD in 10 more years or so to be good again

[crude surge]

They need to stop making yearly releases and give it a good 3 or 4 years before making another

[royal swan]

Bro another threesome, what are the players you are fighting

[crude surge]

Making a new CoD every year or two makes them all rushed dumpster fires

[arctic grove]

so the announcement about stopping yearly release was a lie?

[spiral folio]

My old cod2 server had triplines but there was no visible cord. You had to check doors for a grenade standing on its end

[arctic grove]

3-4 would get stale for a franchise like CoD

[crude surge]

If they announced it I didn't catch it I don't follow CoD much

[acoustic oar]

Normal players. I guess.

[tough folio]

they cant do that, or their sheep fanbase will lose attention

[arctic grove]

I heard about it

[hexed mango]

ngl shouldnt update 3.1.2 be called 3.1.1 cause there was no 3.1.1 yet

just 3.1(.0)

[spiral folio]

Usually I'd be disabling the trap and some moron would rush through the door

[arctic grove]

I once heard it after Vangaurd release

[royal swan]

Seeing how idiotic bf players can be then yeah I believe you are up against regular bf players

[tough folio]

nah its just to let you know what build number your on. sometimes you skip numbers

[arctic grove]

I also happen to get firebomb wire kills on one of the mcom

very funny

[hexed mango]

erm that doesnt change the fact that build 3.1.1 was skipped as a version

[spiral folio]

You could also shoot em but if you disabled it you got free nades

Also itd be a loud explosion

[eager spire]

it's not randomly generated. It's based on the direction you're facing when you put down the thing in most cases

[crude surge]

3.1.1 probably wasn't enough of a change to make public so they skipped to 3.1.2 to push to public

[arctic grove]

I am certain it is also based on distance

[eager spire]

probably

[hexed mango]

i mean...

[spiral folio]

Itd not 100% random but like it'd attach weird

[arctic grove]

there are times I place one bomb that is close to the opposite wall

and it stills tracts to the ground

that frustrates me

[spiral folio]

Yea like it had some jank

[crude surge]

BF1 was full of jank for a long time

At least it was acceptable most the time

[eager spire]

like, tripwires are usable, but BF1 is just a trash game

[hexed mango]

nah

[spiral folio]

It definitely wasnt trash

[crude surge]

BF1 was fun because it was kinda broken

[eager spire]

like i hate it. i have a 2 K/D in that game and it's just annoying.

[spiral folio]

Increase skills

[crude surge]

I don't even know what my K/D was in BF1

I know it was atrocious

I never played it properly we were always just messing around doing stupid shit

[eager spire]

it'd probably be higher if i headglitched constantly in Fao Fortress and stayed on the top balcony in Ballroom Blitz because those are more optimal positions, but that's fucking boring.

[tough folio]

i wish they made the menus smoother

[spiral folio]

Or just shoot better

[eager spire]

:I

[spiral folio]

I mean the game had 5093 weapons. Surely you can find one

[crude surge]

Only gun that mattered was the trench gun 💀

[acoustic oar]

pff.... storm variant all the way 🙂

[crude surge]

So much fun using the trench gun tho absolutely clapping cheeks

[tough folio]

what is head glitch

[crude surge]

I did like the Carano rifle a lot too tho

[eager spire]

i mean you can fight me on BF1. I shoot about as well as i reasonably can on that game, but it's not just about shooting, the game's more about positioning than anything else.

[crude surge]

Ye battlefields big modes have always been a fight for good position

You can be absolute dog water aiming and still put up a good fight if you're in the right place

[next onyx]

So an intermission update huh.

[eager spire]

that's just BF1.

[crude surge]

I'd argue BF1, BFV, and if anyone else remember 1942 back in the day that was also a huge game of position

[low timber]

Sound like you’ve been busy

[next onyx]

What you mean by that?

[crude surge]

1942 as it is in the portal does not feel like it did in the past that's for sure

[eager spire]

well yeah but you said that's the case with the big modes, but i'd argue that's just true for BF1 in general

in all modes

[low timber]

That the news came out hours ago?

[crude surge]

Oh yeah true I can agree with that

BF1 had some funky TDM maps

[next onyx]

News has been up for a few hours though.

[eager spire]

Fao Fortress sucks ass.

Ballroom Blitz would be better if they just removed the ladders.

Fuck the top balcony on that map.

[crude surge]

Fao fortress was a fever dream

[acoustic oar]

I'd say that position is key in every bf game.

[hexed mango]

about the update or smth else

[acoustic oar]

Fao Fortress is pretty nice in domination but in operations its hm not optimal lets leave it like that.

[next onyx]

I dunno I need to get ready.

[hexed mango]

ready?

[eager spire]

Positioning is key, but BF1 is all positioning, no movement.

[hexed mango]

for what

[eager spire]

It just sucks, it's boring.

[low timber]

School my guess

[crude surge]

2142 back in the day you could roll up and decimate some dug in enemies that game was definitely about firepower over position

[low timber]

Because he has said about tests few times

[acoustic oar]

Hm, I run around all the time in bf1. Weird.

[crude surge]

I just assume everyone on discord is school age now, y'all kids on discord make me feel like a grandpa most days anyways

[hexed mango]

t1 pbx finally done

[crude surge]

Pbx underrated

I love the pbx

[hexed mango]

its fairly rated

[eager spire]

during fights though? Unless you're using a trench variant weapon, moving while shooting is just asking for your spread to get wide as fuck and you to not hit anything.

[hexed mango]

all the noobs use it

i mean its a good gun, but its well known that its good

ok what gun do i do next?

[crude surge]

I don't see it as much as other SMGs on the field

[hexed mango]

i mean pp is the only other good one

[crude surge]

Definitely the rail gun

[hexed mango]

k30 and mp9 are ass

ig

[eager spire]

MP9 got did dirty

[hexed mango]

im not honestly a large fan of the mk4

[eager spire]

it did not deserve the nerf it got

[crude surge]

I like the K30 a lot actually

[hexed mango]

k30 got nerfed

[acoustic oar]

Oh I thought you were talking about static positions in general.

[hexed mango]

:(

[crude surge]

Once you get the extended mags it's real fun

[hexed mango]

its too inefficient

[eager spire]

and the K30, well, apparently DICE doesn't like it but if they didn't like it then they shouldn't have put it in the game.

[low cypress]

Ahhhhh

[next onyx]

Railgun is going to get a small nerf in semi mode and I'm glad for that.

[low cypress]

What’s up silver

[next onyx]

Hey ruby!

[low cypress]

and you too way

[crude surge]

I do alright with the K30, I definitely feel it's weaker than most other weapons but I play to it's strengths with it's wild fire rate

[eager spire]

because their attempts at balancing it were stupid and birthed the most ridiculous statement i've ever seen in regards to video game balance.

[eager spire]

hi

[hexed mango]

only vs. vehicles

[low cypress]

Hiya

[next onyx]

Oh nah its charge time is being slightly extended.

From 0.8 to 1.

[crude surge]

That's gonna fuck with me a lot

I only just got used to it's charge time

[next onyx]

Mcs is also worth a go. Maybe.

[low cypress]

I havent played 2042 in god knows how long now

Is the mcs any good now?

[hexed mango]

especially with its buff in 3.1.2 i hope its better

[low timber]

Also P125 burst got a buff

[hexed mango]

wait till tomorrow ruby

[crude surge]

2042 shotguns just hit weird for me

[low cypress]

What’s tomorrow

[hexed mango]

mcs #01 pellet damage upping from 8 -> 15 below 20m

[low cypress]

I haven’t been on track with anything 2042 related

ohh

[low timber]

Update 3.1.2

[pine roost]

the new mcs will be a beast

but only if you have the accuracy

due to the tighter spread. but it already knocks people down to <10% health at 20m

[low timber]

I wonder how the other shell types are affected

[hexed mango]

they wont

[crude surge]

I always forget battlefield shotguns are more like real shotguns than any other game portrays them

[hexed mango]

they only changing #01

[crude surge]

I'm used to the super spread

[next onyx]

They increased the spread the mcs at one point so.

[low timber]

In 3.0

[hexed mango]

and didnt they decrease pellet count as well in 3.0

[next onyx]

Bit disappointed I won't lie but whatever.

Yeah.

[low timber]

Did you see the pic yet Way?

[hexed mango]

way did you see dms

[next onyx]

Oh yeah.

[grizzled blaze]

im hoping we get a new assault rifle soon i wanna shoot things

[kindred flint]

maybe well get a new smg in s4...that will have AR hs multipliers

[hexed mango]

i kinda wish the railgun full auto had shorter initial charge, but slower rof

[rocky kraken]

We need a new sniper

And ar

[hexed mango]

we have a bunch of vault ars that are shit lel

[arctic grove]

pls no more vault weapons they’re more torture than fubfhjg

[kindred flint]

bruh the 416 is totally good...except you lose all the extra utility you can put on an AR because its a vault gun

[eager spire]

clearly they can't make the vault weapons work properly, so

don't

[crude surge]

Hey I like the vault guns

Expect the P90

But I didn't really like the P90 in any other game either so

[low timber]

The grenade launchers is vault guns have their iron sights misaligned as well

[hexed mango]

i really dont like the mk4 in full auto... but sniping peeps that are moving is a pain cause of the charge.. idk what to do

[arctic grove]

Here’s me just praying the M17 and M250 have been pushed back REALLY far for some reason

[kindred flint]

you just aim?

[crude surge]

Use the burst mode perhaps?

[hexed mango]

doesnt the burst mode suck ass

[grizzled blaze]

i wonder what vehicle comes next

[hexed mango]

stealth bomber jet

[grizzled blaze]

yuck

[crude surge]

I get more kills in burst than j do single fire or full auto I just end up reloading a lot since it's a 5 round burst

[low timber]

Not pilotable though

[granite island]

I have learned it is very hard to hit infantry with stray missiles

Or radar missiles

[hexed mango]

range or close?

[crude surge]

I definitely don't "snipe" in burst but anything close enough I'd shoot at with the M5 id shoot at in burst and do pretty well

It's a bit weak real close just cause if you miss you're fucked

[granite island]

In next patch

[hexed mango]

thats why i'd think auto would be better, cause you'd be able to compensate for missing

[crude surge]

But swapping to your pistol is faster than waiting for a second burst charge usually

[granite island]

I hope they increase the fire rate of radar missiles

Lemme send 2 missiles

Instead of 1 per 4 seconds

[crude surge]

I think the jets just need slightly more utility to them

I still feel like they're on the weak side of the spectrum by a lot

[granite island]

Give vtols a anti Recoiless/lis rocket device

So vtol mode can actually be useful

[hexed mango]

no

its already hard enough to hit flying things with lis' stupid hitbox bugs

and the vulnerability to vtol should be getting shot.

[next onyx]

Radar rockets do need need a buff.

They are so dumb.

[crude surge]

I feel like the range is really short on them

[granite island]

I just want to shoot radar missiles faster

[hexed mango]

yeah im really not loving the rorsch

[granite island]

The damage is fine

[crude surge]

But that's the jets in general the lock on range is mediocre at best

[crude surge]

It's a fun gun but not always an effective one

[granite island]

Would be nice if they gave jets bombs

[hexed mango]

just doesnt feel effective as a gun against others
obviously for picking off heads at range its superior, if you can adjust for the charge, but as a close up gun i'd take literally anything else

[next onyx]

They're easy fire and forget. Not lock and forget.

[granite island]

So I can be a bomber jet

[lunar finch]

bomber heli but not a bomber plane :(

[crude surge]

Hey now I like the bomber heli

[next onyx]

When I was playing against echo the spam was atrocious.

[hexed mango]

[next onyx]

Disables your jet even if you flare one away.

[hexed mango]

you're welcome

[crude surge]

IDC what anyone says about stealth helis I love them more than any other aircraft

[next onyx]

Every cunt was spamming them I've never wanted to bomb a village so badly.

Ugh.

[hexed mango]

sounding like a true american hero

[next onyx]

When it was just the su57's that was fun.

[kindred flint]

hello yes...out of context way clips?

[next onyx]

Their hit box was large enough and no shitty gimmicks.

[granite island]

Imagine they add drone strikes in season 4

[crude surge]

Oof flashbacks to V2 rockets

[granite island]

Air strike binoculars

2min cool down

[hexed mango]

bruh i love not finding a gun i like

[tough wolf]

what u mean

u dont like any of the guns in 2042??

[hexed mango]

idk can you read

[crude surge]

Just use the M5 or the SVK like everyone else

[tough wolf]

if so, that's understandable. I think theyre good. I'm just bored of em

[hexed mango]

already T1'd the m5

[crude surge]

Can't go wrong with the M5

[tough wolf]

every weapon is just boring to me rn

and anything besides M5 feels inferior

[crude surge]

I feel that way about the vehicles

Other than the stealth heli I don't have much of a desire to use any of the vehicles anymore

[tough wolf]

try AM40, or Avancys

[crude surge]

The AM40 slaps I enjoy that

[hexed mango]

t1'd

[tough wolf]

or my secret sauce of LCMG with short barrel and CQ rounds

[next onyx]

Scar is fun.

So is the m16.

[clever marlin]

AK24 is fun

[next onyx]

The recoil part is being partially mended too.

[tough wolf]

or even try m5 with short barrel. it's basically an AEK

[clever marlin]

People hate the ak24 and I don’t know why

[hexed mango]

i already said i t1'd the m5

[next onyx]

I've gotten 10k with the m5a3 it's ok.

[hexed mango]

its a good and fun gun, i just want something new lol

[clever marlin]

PP28?

[next onyx]

M16?

[hexed mango]

pp19, done

[tough wolf]

i KNOW dummy. if you try it with short barrel it's like a different beast

[clever marlin]

MP9?

[hexed mango]

no vault weapons way. stop with the m16 propaganda

[tough wolf]

AM40 then.

or Avancys

[crude surge]

The M16 is hilarious tho

[hexed mango]

have it t2 but the nerf hurts too much

[clever marlin]

Avancys is a pretty good gun

[hexed mango]

.

[clever marlin]

AM40 is good if you want an AK24/M5 hybrid

[granite island]

I hope the season 4 map isn't too big

Or too small

Or too long

[next onyx]

They're fixing the bug with the maul rounds where there's a slowdown after you fire.

To be fair I thought that was intentional due to balance.

[tough wolf]

if ur upset about the guns... then just stop using guns

[granite island]

Knife only challenge

[tough wolf]

get T1 throwing knife instead, like a real man

[next onyx]

The m16 has been treating me well, echo.

Probably do the same for you.

Standard barrel m16 might be the play though.

[tough folio]

pp29 is a beast

[next onyx]

Cause it has an extremely generous 5hk range.

60m if I had to assume without it. 75m with it.

[tough wolf]

the vault weapons are bretty decent now, but they still suffer from the ridiculous reload times

[crude surge]

I like the flash hider on the M16

[tough wolf]

that's the main thing holding them back still, imo

[granite island]

Dice has been quiet this month

[tough wolf]

yeah..

[next onyx]

The only thing holding portal weapons back is their weapon sizes.

That's all really.

Err.

[tough wolf]

not sure what you mean

[next onyx]

Mag sizes.

[tough wolf]

oh

yeah that's fair but like

[next onyx]

M16 needs a 35+1 round mag and it'll be a really good choice.

[tough wolf]

if they just made the reload times better, that wouldnt even be that bad. it'd be a fair tradeoff

[crude surge]

I did not like the m240 tbh

[tough wolf]

cuz as it is right now, the m16 takes the same time to reload as an extendo m5a3 mag. and that's skeet tier, really.

[crude surge]

Eh I don't think the reload times are really that bad all things considered

But that's just me

[tough wolf]

it's really egregious on the ak74u. it has like 50 whole animation frames of doing NOTHING, but the gun still isnt' considered reloaded

you pop the mag in, rack the slide, wait... one one-thousand... THEN it's ready.
terrible.

[crude surge]

Yeah the 74u needs a better reload

[rocky kraken]

I refuse to use the 74u

Feels like crap

[tough wolf]

have you tried it recently tho>?

[rocky kraken]

Yeah

[hexed mango]

am40 is cool but it still just doesnt feel as powerful as it should be. idk i keep getting beamed by ars and smgs

[tough wolf]

cuz after they fixed the fire rate, I think it's fun. just suffers from that dog shit reload time

[rocky kraken]

It still feels bad

[crude surge]

In my mind the vault weapons are supposed to feel a little out of place considering the world the game takes place in

[tough wolf]

u gotta put the vertical grip on it tho. then it's bretty gud.

[eager spire]

in my mind that sounds like lore justification for poor implementation

[hexed mango]

which grip

cobra? lwg? bcg?

[tough wolf]

I was talking about the ak74

but for am40, I use the laser sight thing

[hexed mango]

k

yeah thats what im using

[tough wolf]

the one that reduces recoil while also giving better hipfire

that's the way to go... i think

[crude surge]

Oh 100% but I'd rather know in my mind full well they're inferior and use them for the sake of fun than be frustrated they aren't on par with the base weapons

[hexed mango]

yeah i dont have the mgl unlocked, just the ls-1 rn

ill unlock it if i get a chance

[arctic grove]

grrrr i dont have a powerful enough rig to record my 2042 sessions, my last play was fire 😦

[tough wolf]

aight, then try the stubby grip or whatever it's called

[eager spire]

i mean it's not really being frustrated that they're not on par with the base weapons, it's being frustrated that they don't work properly

[tough wolf]

the one that gives you +acc while ADS

[kindred flint]

i tried the ak74 last night and holy shit i just couldnt make it work

[eager spire]

because whatever process that DICE uses for porting Portal weapons to 2042 is clearly fucked

[crude surge]

But it's not like they don't work at all they just are scuffed AF compared to the 2042 kit

[tough wolf]

the process is:
Ctrl+C
Ctrl+V
???
profit

[crude surge]

It was wild to think they could balance portal weapons against 2042 weapons without breaking one or the other

[hexed mango]

man why did they give the sws a masterkey

[tough wolf]

for the memes

i get so mad whenever I get killed by some dork with a masterkey on a weird gun

[dapper river]

yeah just copy paste them from the older games like umm??

why dont they just do that with the maps lmao

[crude surge]

Lmao sws with master key the Chad load out

[eager spire]

yeah but considering that we're working with a developer that makes a lot of money i'm going to expect a bit better from them than "they work but they're scuffed"

[tough wolf]

developer with a lot of money? what are you talking about?

[eager spire]

Like i forgive indie developers for that.

[tough wolf]

DICE is a small indie dev, sweetie

[crude surge]

Dice has an eternal history of "works but scuffed" that's kind of their thing

[eager spire]

I am not gonna forgive a AAA studio for that

[lunar finch]

this game is so pretty... man

[tough wolf]

not with those graphics settings lol

[crude surge]

Consider literally every battlefield game that's ever come out has at least the first year of "worst battlefield ever released" before they work the kinks out

[tough wolf]

is that on xbox?

[eager spire]

you couldn't have picked a less flattering area to be honest

[dapper river]

fov too wide, plus chromatic aberration

[arctic grove]

Long time no see man

[crude surge]

Shit it doesn't even look that chunky on my Xbox one

[tough wolf]

lol

[lunar finch]

what does chromatic aberration mean?

[eager spire]

i'm aware of that, but even thinking about now, BF1 still plays like ass, BFV got better maps but still plays like ass.

time does not improve things

[lunar finch]

looks better on my monitor lol, my ss settings are just low

[eager spire]

it's always relative.

BFV is not suddenly good because 2042 came out. BFV is just better than 2042, and that's debatable.

[dapper river]

toward the edges of the screen the game tries to simulate the light shift through a camera lens, leaving blue/red edges around objects. looks uggo to many-a-gamer.

[lunar finch]

bf5 is not better than 2042

[crude surge]

Indeed it is, I just know when hindsight kicks in people will have great things to say about 2042 when the next atrocity comes to fruition

[lunar finch]

[eager spire]

some people will say that it is

those people are of course incorrect

but you know

[dapper river]

old game good new game bad

[eager spire]

yeah but that won't make it any better.

[lunar finch]

they are correct

[crude surge]

It simply makes people remember the good things about the game even if the bad shit is still bad

[lunar finch]

i rather play 2042 than bf5 in its prime any day of the week

[crude surge]

BFV played best when they stopped updating it ironically

[topaz field]

50MM Cannon Pod Ammo on Transport Air Vehicles increased from 8 -> 10
why...

[eager spire]

like past Hardline, there is not a single BF game that came out that I would say is good.

[restive cloud]

Bf5 was great. Just never quite hit the ww2 vibes. Outside the pacific update.

[tough folio]

why cant i hear people in gamechat as well

[eager spire]

like i said some people are just wrong and that's fine

they'll figure it out eventually

[restive cloud]

Bf1 is unmatched in terms of atmosphere and feeling like war.

[topaz field]

Fixed some cases of recoil compensation not being consistent upon firing for prolonged periods of time
is this what enders/baranox was talking about?

[eager spire]

yes

[hexed mango]

apparently yes

[eager spire]

hopefully

[dapper river]

removes the biplane sounds
wtf it sounds like a generic war game!!

[arctic grove]

I hate how they worded it like “SOME instances”

[hexed mango]

enders was going on a massive ego boost about it being 100% his action that lead to the change

[tough wolf]

enders
🦉

[granite island]

Rain+dark sky+fog+fire everywhere= war

[eager spire]

because it basically was him and Baranox who brought attention to it

[crude surge]

Enders be doing that tho

[hexed mango]

yeah but alex said they knew about it before.

[topaz field]

ahhh interesting cant wait to see those guys test it out on twitch

[tough folio]

why cant i hear people in gamechat as well

[eager spire]

they didn't know about it before he talked about it.

[granite island]

Spearhead should be foggy

[tough wolf]

try turning your volume up

[granite island]

Like super foggy

[crude surge]

Because game chat is off by default and most people don't turn it on

[tough wolf]

and playing it through your speakers

[granite island]

With the rain

[arctic grove]

Yo fog on spearhead would be cool tbh

[tough wolf]

also make sure the volume on your physical speakers is at max setting

[crude surge]

Spearhead with fog would be top tier

[hexed mango]

from what i heard from alex, they said they were already looking into recoil adjustments, including that one, but that one helped them fine tune it

[radiant prism]

Enders as usual overestimating how much influence he has on the community lol

[hexed mango]

it wasn't 100% ender's action that lead to it.

[tough folio]

why would i play without a headset

[radiant prism]

The only people who know who he is are die hard fans and people who spend all day online (me)

[crude surge]

Typical content creator with a god complex tbh

[tough wolf]

just put the speakers next to your ears and it functions the same way

[hexed mango]

i dislike him

[tough wolf]

make sure the volume is all the way up, or else u wont hear ur team mates

[crude surge]

I'd struggle to say he was even more than 10% of the influence

[tough wolf]

never heard of this guy. looked him up. can see why u dont like him

[eager spire]

I don't mind him. He generally knows what he's talking about, and people overexaggerate the fuck out of that guy's attitude.

[hexed mango]

[hexed mango]

nah he deserves the hate

[eager spire]

I don't agree.

[hexed mango]

and anyone that has a dZ in their name

[radiant prism]

Yeah no his attitude is represented as much as its present

I got banned from his stream once because I said he maybe didn't need to get mad over every little death

[crude surge]

He's not the worst creator out there but I'm not a fan of him at all he is fueled by drama as most YouTubers and content creators are

[radiant prism]

He died to a sniper and threw a fit about it, I said something about it and he banned me

[granite island]

Fog is such a underused feature in games

[radiant prism]

I appealed the ban and said I hadn't broken any of his rules (which I hadn't) and then he unbanned me and said "dont piss me off"

[turbid arrow]

the rorsh nerf told yah it was made by someone who doesn't play FPS games

[next onyx]

It isn't even that much of a nerf.

[crude surge]

It's a resource sapping feature though too

[radiant prism]

Enders 100% gets too angry at things.

[turbid arrow]

50% less damage on heavy veh is not much of nerf?

[next onyx]

People will use it on infantry anyways.

[radiant prism]

50% less...out of like 2 damage

[granite island]

Yeah but it's cool

[crude surge]

Undeniable fact he is a rage gamer and his audience are all rage gamers

[radiant prism]

So basically 2->1

[eager spire]

ehh?

no.

[crude surge]

It's extremely cool I also vote for more fog I just recognize why it's not on more maps

[topaz field]

he banned me from his twitch because i told him to find cover in bf1 lmaoo

[radiant prism]

lycan as usual being selective lol

[crude surge]

Never met a single Ender fan who didn't rage in the lobby over something dumb

[granite island]

Like that 1 bf1 map

With the smoke

[topaz field]

i wish they added the rosche from BF3

[radiant prism]

We've got two separate people telling them we've been banned from his stream before over trivial stuff

[next onyx]

Don't think there's much misrepresentation when he literally acts as he does.

[granite island]

But what if instead smoke

It's fog

[eager spire]

I see it.

What do you want me to say about that?

[granite island]

Now idk how jets are going to be usable during fog

[radiant prism]

Nothing

[granite island]

Or helis

[eager spire]

Okay, so i'm not going to.

[radiant prism]

Because you don't have anything to say

[eager spire]

I just see it.

[radiant prism]

And then ignore it

Because you don't have anything to respond to it with

[eager spire]

okay but you're having a go at me for being selective

[radiant prism]

Because you're wrong

[eager spire]

so i can't ignore it

[crude surge]

Hey maybe jets could get a paik ish like scanner that shows the ground without tagging enemies

[eager spire]

or i'm proving your point

[crude surge]

In fog

[eager spire]

so what do you want from me

[turbid arrow]

you mean 4?

[eager spire]

Like do i need to put an addendum that my view on Enders is my personal opinion and experience with the guy?

[crude surge]

We want your first born for a sacrifice

[radiant prism]

BASED

based gamer moment

[eager spire]

i thought that was a given considering we were talking about experiences.

[radiant prism]

lets gooooooooooooooo

[tough wolf]

K I take it back... just watched his most recent video. he actually seems funny.

[crude surge]

His edited videos are significantly better than his streams, just still isn't my cup of tea

[next onyx]

I agree with some his views but I'm not gonna stress it.

[tough folio]

max by default -_-

[tough wolf]

yeah I could see that

I just like that he has highlights of all the silly stupid shit that happens in this game

gives me a sigh of relief seeing that it happens to other people too

[crude surge]

There's very few streamers I actually enjoy, not many of them can bring the fun energy to every stream in steady supply there's always dull in betweens that edited videos don't have

Live streaming games in general just isn't really for me I guess

[eager spire]

yeah, streams are not something i watch regularly. I just watch highlight reels or edited videos.

like occasionally i'll show up and watch a bit of a stream but i don't stick around

[crude surge]

I like Frogger on twitch he plays shit tons of overwatch but he's one of the few I'll actually watch regularly

Most of my twitch time is just for the sake of drops and I'll put in on the spare TV in the background just to log time for drops

[kindred flint]

55-10 with 58 assists..not bad for first game ak zain only

[crude surge]

I enjoy zain

I had mixed feelings about the airburst launcher but I'm sold on it now

[kindred flint]

i love when enemy teams keep running into the meat grinder by the cube and d point on spearhead

[eager spire]

I still think it's funny that they added a character into 2042 that has the Quick Fix perk from CoD in there

[kindred flint]

when you are on the cube side you can abuse the cliff out of bounds area and shoot down on them constantly..

[hexed mango]

its a good perk

[kindred flint]

and i was using incendiary under barrels through smoke getting hit markers

[eager spire]

i know it is, i'm just saying it's funny that they've done that

[grizzled blaze]

who

[eager spire]

Zain

Zain has that.

[radiant prism]

My problem with Enders is this: yes he knows what he’s talking about mechanically, and he’s good at getting kills. The problem is, he has a fundamental misunderstanding of battlefield as a franchise and really only cares about himself. I’ve seen him talk many times about the game like it’s a competitive franchise (for example I remember him complaining about how BFV’s gunplay worked with regards to where your bullets originate (that being from the actual gun muzzle as opposed to the screen center). He talks about this like it’s an objectively bad thing, but I think most people will agree BFV’s gunplay was the best in the franchise and massively contributed to it.

Holy text wall oh shit

Zain’s ability is nice but it gives me a false sense of security lol

It only gives a small amount of health back

[crude surge]

Yeah I feel that I feel braver with Zain than most others with that little boost

[radiant prism]

And then starts a slow heal

[hexed mango]

it regens all the way

[radiant prism]

It’s a confidence booster more than just a full regen

[hexed mango]

just takes time

[next onyx]

I like the risk involved.

[radiant prism]

Yes but to quickly regen still takes long enough for it to not be immediately useful

[eager spire]

I just don't think spread to recoil conversion was a great idea. If BFV's system were there but with predictable recoil patterns, then that would be different, i wouldn't mind that as much. but it's spread to recoil conversion.

[next onyx]

Do you re peak, Get an easy kill, or play it safe?

[hexed mango]

yeah its quite slow

[next onyx]

It cuts the delay out which takes the longest in health regen.

[radiant prism]

Not what I was referring to and not really the point

[hexed mango]

yes

[kindred flint]

i got 4 kills in a row with the ak with 1 trigger pull..enemies just lining up in the same spot and i kept shooting, that was a worthy 40 round mag

[radiant prism]

40 round mag is amazing on the AK

[next onyx]

If you slow down slightly and have your health catch up Zain is easily the best.

[radiant prism]

Good balance between the capacity of the drum and the fast reload of the standard mag

[eager spire]

honestly, if the next BF game comes out and doesn't have specialists, going back to the perk system, i wouldn't mind Zain's Quick Fix trait[i don't actually know what it's called] being a perk like that.

[next onyx]

Perseverance.

I would like to see bf5's perks again.

[crude surge]

I probably won't end up buying the next battlefield game

[next onyx]

Archtypes.

[low timber]

I liked BF3’s perk system

[halcyon ferry]

i like 2042 and BF1 mainly

because i dont really like other FPS games that much

[eager spire]

BF3's perk system was fine.

[halcyon ferry]

i tried CS GO and Valorant for example but those games are boring

[crude surge]

I play mostly FPS games but I've been leaning toward hero shooters and getting back into halo a lot recently

[eager spire]

BF4's was okay but it didn't really scale well outside of the larger scale modes, making it mostly useless in TDM or any smaller scale modes

Hardline's was probably the best, you get perks through gaining score in a match.

It's not squad dependent, it's your personal performance.

[crude surge]

I used to hate hardline so much but it's grown on me more

[low timber]

I probably got the hardline perk to rank 4 once

[halcyon ferry]

if its your thing then sure, im playing battlefield and singleplayer games mostly

[eager spire]

Hardline was good, people were just petty.

[halcyon ferry]

I was on console when Hardline first came out

[eager spire]

"UHH IT'S NOT A MILITARY SHOOTER IT'S NOT BATTLEFIELD"

"IT'S JUST RESKINNED BF4"

nevermind the fact that BF4 was good

[halcyon ferry]

Hardline was ok but Battlefield 1 is like the most quality Battlefield

[crude surge]

Hardline at launch really threw a wrench in the battlefield formula and people couldn't look past the story aspect enough to see the gameplay was actually fun

[halcyon ferry]

i still play it when its active

[eager spire]

I don't agree.

I don't think BF1 is the most quality anything.

[hexed mango]

most unbased bf player

[halcyon ferry]

I get it, i just like that it was like the first game to try World War 1 even if they kind of had to strech the imagination

[silk mango]

Speaking of 4 where’s our operation map for this game

[eager spire]

i don't know, ask DICE.

[silk mango]

Locker was my favorite

[crude surge]

Hardline really put me off just cause it's OG launch was so buggy on Xbox it was unplayable for a while

[halcyon ferry]

most guns were prototypes because full-auto weapons werent a thing yet

[crude surge]

By the time I came around to it again I was shocked how fun it was

[hexed mango]

stranded tactical conquest grind is basically locker

[next onyx]

Competitive pokemon be like yes.

[crude surge]

Pokemon players scare me now

[eager spire]

It's interesting, and was probably better around launch before the multiple slide nerfs, but now it just plays like an awkward mix of trying to be an immersive shooter while also being an arcade shooter, never really working as either.

[halcyon ferry]

theres still as many people on BF1 as there is on 2042 on PC which is actually insane

[halcyon ferry]

i like it but i can see your point, i can see why it wouldnt appeal to some

[next onyx]

Enders and Baranox literally brought it into light.

[hexed mango]

way is behind

[next onyx]

Oh yeah Goober, How?

[crude surge]

With EA access being a perk of game pass ultimate most the battlefield games on EA access have a huge player boost now

[hexed mango]

oh nv

[halcyon ferry]

like there werent Light Machine Guns in WW1 for example but they kinda had to compromise in order to have a Support class

[hexed mango]

someone brought it up again

[eager spire]

typical

[halcyon ferry]

yeah i might redownload it

[eager spire]

...are you actually gonna elaborate on that claim or are you just gonna say "nuh-uh" every time someone brings it up

[crude surge]

Pokemon is so much more complex than I remember it being, modern poke players deal with the ultimate game of RPS I couldn't begin to understand now

I don't have time for that shit now

[hexed mango]

i mean from what alex said, they knew about recoil issues beforehand, but that video/specific one was brought into light by those people
doesn't mean they are 100% responsible for the change tho.

[next onyx]

VGC 2016 was cool to watch,.

Even if it was just the metagame of ubers.

[eager spire]

yeah they brought it into light, and then after it was brought to light they figured out what was causing it.

[halcyon ferry]

redoonloading since i have ea access

[crude surge]

Wow ouch

[hexed mango]

yes but the changes in the patch note are too vague to only represent exactly what enders showed

[halcyon ferry]

woah there sir kinda toxic for discord

[crude surge]

I don't like enders but I ain't gonna shit on enders fans that hard

[next onyx]

@vestal grove There's no need for that attitude.

[eager spire]

i mean you did reply to a message i posted 30 minutes ago about it, bit odd of you to do that if you're just not gonna elaborate.

like

you could've just not done that?

[crude surge]

At least be constructive about it like the rest of us instead of being a knob

[next onyx]

Just leave it. Let the rand stay a rand, Silver.

[eager spire]

ok.

[crude surge]

Fair enough

[hexed mango]

hehe

[arctic grove]

They did have like 1 or 2 plus some experimental but they needed more for the sake of variety

[next onyx]

BAR my favourite assault rifle.

[hexed mango]

[halcyon ferry]

yeah

most machine guns in ww1 were mounted

[crude surge]

BAR by far the best automatic rifle to exist

[eager spire]

Like, I could imagine BF1 being a far better game if just a few things were changed about it.

[arctic grove]

No. Thompson and PPSH better

[crude surge]

The most Chad rifle ever the BAR

[next onyx]

Those are SUB machine.

[arctic grove]

They do be Subs

[crude surge]

If we talking full size not even modern MGs clapped cheeks the way the BAR did

[halcyon ferry]

like when the Germans were trying to run into the trenches they got mowed down by those kinda early Machine Guns

[crude surge]

It was a masterpiece of manly machinery

[eager spire]

-Remove visual recoil
-Make it so infantry bolt actions oneshot in close quarters, as well as have an extended oneshot range instead of only having the one shot range be an arbitrary distance away, also remove the oneshot range from any bolt actions with scopes
-Make suppression a visual effect only
-Revert the slide nerfs

[next onyx]

FG42 and BREN were amazing.

[eager spire]

boom. instantly a better game.

[next onyx]

I loved them on bf5.

[crude surge]

The bren was cool for sure

[arctic grove]

Brownie Automatic Rifle 🙂

[crude surge]

Not my favorite but definitely fun

[hexed mango]

is this for bf1?

[next onyx]

52K with FG42, 26K with BAR and 20K with BREN cause yes.

[eager spire]

yes

[hexed mango]

add removing shitty bloom

[arctic grove]

Sten low key on 1st person view looks like a pp

[next onyx]

Pipe gun.

[arctic grove]

server hopping these breakthrough games

[crude surge]

The visual recoil didn't bother me much but I agree with the suppression

[arctic grove]

give me attackers DICE

[eager spire]

I'd go for toning down spread across the board, making it so moving while shooting isn't penalized as much. Bloom is a fine balancing mechanic on it's own.

[hexed mango]

yeah just the shitty spread annoys me lel

there's some people that still think suppression is a good mechanic 💀

[crude surge]

I am team bloom I'd rather have the movement penalties

It slows the game up a little

[eager spire]

yeah those people are what we in the trade call "wrong"

[hexed mango]

[arctic grove]

LMAO

[crude surge]

Suppression is ok so long as it isn't physically slowing you down or slowing your aim

It should be limited to visual effects only

[next onyx]

Make suppression purely visual yes.

[crude surge]

For the sake of it being a video game suppression could go away entirely for all I care

[arctic grove]

like when your screen shakes when you are being supressed

[next onyx]

Oh yeah side thing Goober, Have you seen the Paradox pokemon?

[crude surge]

The new ones in scarlet and violet?

[next onyx]

Hell I'd make soldiers scream and add lots of audio distraction when it comes to suppression.

Yeah.

[eager spire]

Like, I donno how anyone can look at a mechanic that makes your shots not shoot straight if someone else can't hit you and say "yeah that's good"

[next onyx]

They're really interesting pokemon and I can't wait to see how they'll do in competitive.

Because of the team compositions.

[crude surge]

All the paradox pokemon and mega evolutions and all that just escape me now

[eager spire]

can i just say, what the hell is that 1,000th pokemon in the National Dex

seriously

[next onyx]

GHOLDENGO.

MY BELOVED.

[eager spire]

guy looks like he's made of fucking string cheese

like, that seems a bit underwhelming

[crude surge]

Gholdengo @eager spire

[next onyx]

Fluttermane, Sandy shocks and Great tusk best ancient pokemon.

Yeah the design in underwhelming but it's terrifying to fight against.

[eager spire]

i know it's name, i'm just saying it looks dumb

[arctic grove]

Gamefreak is bankrupt creative wise.

[eager spire]

has Gamefreak been allowed to go home for the last few years

like have they been locked in their office?

[crude surge]

Oh yeah it's like the apple jacks cinnamon stick guy fell into a gold smelter

[eager spire]

like

i don't feel like Gamefreak's okay

[crude surge]

I'm pretty sure they're indentured slaves to the Pokemon machine now

[eager spire]

i think they need help

[arctic grove]

With the buggy mess they did with the new pokemon game i doubt they get any potty breaks

[crude surge]

Tbh Pokemon let's go on the switch was the last Pokemon game I played because they dumbed it down enough for me

Other than that I think I played Pokemon gold before that

[next onyx]

I've never really questioned the designs since everything they add is "new"

[eager spire]

the last pokemon game i seriously played was Soul Silver.

[arctic grove]

I honestly was hoping a remake of the orginal gamboy version

[eager spire]

And then some dickhead stole my DSi XL.

[low timber]

I’ve only played colosseum, XD, TV and ORAS

[eager spire]

I donno who did that but I hope they still lose sleep over it.

[crude surge]

I actually think let's go did Pokemon Justice, I know it's a hot topic on the Pokemon community but I enjoyed it a lot I had some good nostalgic vibes from it

[next onyx]

Look at his legs!

[arctic grove]

I still have my pokemon stadium 1 and 2 on the N64

[eager spire]

he be walkin

[low timber]

”legs”

[next onyx]

I tried getting into comp pokemon but I just can't.

[arctic grove]

Tentacool but brown

[crude surge]

Why the fuck they make a whitewashed tentacool

[next onyx]

Yeah apparently it's a completely different species.

[arctic grove]

They ran out of ideas smh

[crude surge]

Different species my ass they doing the halo coatings treatment to pokemon

[arctic grove]

Wait until they make a live service pokemon game.

[next onyx]

In the game code of Scarlet and Violet, Toedscool and Toedscruel are referred to as "OKAKINGU" and "OKAGYARADOSU" respectively, suggesting they replaced a scrapped idea of convergent species for the Magikarp line.

[eager spire]

Nintendo has historically been behind trends.

[next onyx]

Yo.

That would of been cool.

[arctic grove]

We already got a league of legends pokemon

[eager spire]

so they'll get to it eventually.

[crude surge]

My wife when I first met her was one of the biggest Pokemon fans out there and now even she struggles to find things she likes about the new Pokemon games

She actually returned and refunded scarlet and violet she was so off put by them

[eager spire]

I was never a big pokemon fan. I still like some of them obviously but I don't know most of them.

like i'd buy an Eevee plush.

[hexed mango]

my mom plays pokemon go

[arctic grove]

Im all about gen 1-3 thats it

[crude surge]

I loved them until I got old enough to play Halo and shooters and I've never looked back

[eager spire]

I was also big into pokemon creepypasta when i was younger so that was a whole thing i associate with it now.

[next onyx]

SV kinda.... They are not games for the switch.

[crude surge]

My adult ADHD can't handle Pokemon like games now

[low timber]

The animated series is gonna be weird without Ash.

[crude surge]

Ash should've been axed ages ago tbh

[next onyx]

Try getting pla.

It's a good game.

[eager spire]

I always liked how Red was depicted in the earlier pokemon gens

Like, he's just up in a mountain, you find him, he doesn't say anything, you battle him and he's got some of the strongest pokemon in the game, you beat him, and he still doesn't say anything.

[crude surge]

That was legends Arceus right?

[eager spire]

no

i'm talking about past gen 1

[crude surge]

I meant that toward way

[eager spire]

like up to like, Gen 4 i guess

oh

[arctic grove]

breath of the wild pokemon was decent

[crude surge]

Red definitely made a good boss tho I agree

[eager spire]

I just liked that he was there at all

[arctic grove]

can I just say

[eager spire]

y'know, it was just a neat thing.

[arctic grove]

colosseum is still the best Pokemon

[eager spire]

never played it

[crude surge]

Psh Pokemon snap on the 64

[eager spire]

Also never played it

[crude surge]

Hands down top tier always will be

[arctic grove]

and this is why I stayed behind

there no games nowadays that's like colosseum

and no stadium

rip the dream

[crude surge]

I miss my Nintendo 64 man I feel like such a dinosaur saying that was the golden age of gaming but it was

I never had more fun than I had playing on the Nintendo 64

[arctic grove]

imagine if snap had annual release for each gen

[crude surge]

You know what I would actually buy

[eager spire]

The N64 was the first console i played on.

I only remember playing SM64 on it.

and being very bad at it cause i was like 5

[arctic grove]

give me mature pokemon

or give me death

[eager spire]

i feel like you're just gonna die

[arctic grove]

[crude surge]

I want a pokemon chef game

[arctic grove]

I want a pokemon horizon game

pls

[crude surge]

Let me cook up a Bulbasaur already damnit

[arctic grove]

let me explore regions in FH style

[eager spire]

i think there was a polygon video about that

[crude surge]

Imagine if team rocket discovered gunpowder

[eager spire]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EqzghgtJ1Is

[crude surge]

There's no way that they aren't eating Pokemon

[arctic grove]

but anyways

my point still stands

gen 3 best

[crude surge]

Gen 3 starters were banging man Treecko was 10/10

Torchic was dope too

[arctic grove]

I'd send my pokemon type

but this server doesn't like attachment

[next onyx]

@crude surge Pokemon legends arceus yeah.

It's a good game.

[arctic grove]

not enough violence

WHERE ARE THEY

[crude surge]

I'll have to steal the switch from my wife one night and try it I'm sure she owns it

[arctic grove]

and you should also try colosseum

D A B

[hexed mango]

can march 16th come already

[arctic grove]

whys that?

[crude surge]

Does it play like Stadium on the 64 did

[hexed mango]

gaming

[arctic grove]

think of it as stadium hybrid

and better theme and story

[hexed mango]

https://store.steampowered.com/app/1774580/STAR_WARS_Jedi_Survivor/
specifically. this gaming.

[arctic grove]

ah

im personally waiting for homeworld 3

but anyway back on topic

I'm not waiting for anything

im very excited for tomorrow

I just play older games

[hexed mango]

it is quite sad that 2042's steam reviews will probably never go above 40%

[arctic grove]

meh

i ignore reviews becuase there all bias or hateful for no fucking reason

[hexed mango]

precisely

i mean recent reviews are at 60% but all time is 34%

[next onyx]

People will only cherry pick reviews anyways.

[arctic grove]

Confirmation bias

[next onyx]

I do think they're important to gauge how the game is panned.

Sometimes they surprise you sometimes they don't.

[arctic grove]

if you as a person have to rely on reviews to decide on buying a game, im sorry but LOL your doing it wrong

Well Steam reviews no

Actual reviews like on YouTube that’s fine

[crude surge]

I don't rely on a single source of reviews to buy a game but that's always where I start

[next onyx]

Only part of the review I care about is the games stability and if it's worth buying.

[arctic grove]

this is ok but steam reviews a DEF no

[hexed mango]

or like ign or other blog/posts

[arctic grove]

For sure since Steam reviews are just memes

[crude surge]

sometimes I can trust steam reviews but most games on steam get user bombed anyways

[hexed mango]

"i'd rather buy winrar"

[arctic grove]

hell i saw a steam review on Destiny 2 that im surprised it passed the bot it was so hateful

[crude surge]

Xbox store reviews are almost just as bad now

[arctic grove]

and i saw another one that said " you'll love this game, if your autistic".....

[crude surge]

Just because it's true doesn't mean it doesn't hurt 😭

[arctic grove]

shit like that shouldent be able to pass steams bot

[hexed mango]

"money is better spent donating to wikipedia"

[arctic grove]

and whats even worse is 90% of the time steam community mods dont give a shit

[hexed mango]

wtf someone received 2042 for free.. and refunded it? how... the fuck

[arctic grove]

O.o

Dayum

bruh got like free money

Just cashing in on the bandwagon for steam reactions or whatever those damn things are

[hexed mango]

Quite literally the best game i have ever played!
with about 500 !'s after that

= negative review

[arctic grove]

there’s apparently even negative reviews that say the games good

Like people seem to be able to do whatever they want with it

i like how the "jester" award is now used for trolls to call someone a clown too on steam

all and all the internet is a mess '

[hexed mango]

my review for the 2042 Year 1 pass was "why so serious"
a steam moderator banned the review.

[hexed mango]

like the above one

[arctic grove]

Is that cake recipe still there?

[hexed mango]

yes

[arctic grove]

Fuck sakes lol

lol

[lilac dust]

Honestly man. Fair play to all the AI out there that assassinate me in the back. I shouldn't have stood still while healing. GG Robot!

[arctic grove]

someone dosent like the Joker from Batman :/

[hexed mango]

fr

[arctic grove]

i love facing the ai as a warn up game, its funny that when on a roof top they will bleed your tickets by commiting suicide off the roofs

they just walk off and poof dead

im just happy i got my P90 im loving the damn gun to death

quite literally LOL

[hexed mango]

time to watch tlou

[ebon pilot]

it was pretty good

[hexed mango]

pedro pascal ❤️

new mando s3 trailer later today

damn the opening scene is already amazing

[sharp marten]

[crude surge]

Mando and andor probably my two favorite new star wars series' to come out

[hexed mango]

fr

andor was amazing

[crude surge]

I'm excited for Ahsoka too

[hexed mango]

ye cant wait

[crude surge]

Acolyte is supposed to come out this year still I have high hopes for that series too

[hexed mango]

ye

[crude surge]

Supposed to be 100ish years before episode one could be a super fun series

[hexed mango]

also weekly bad batch epis

[crude surge]

Ye I'm caught up on bad batch right now I watch them with my son even though he's a bit young to know what's happening

[lone wren]

Do y'all think they should add a tank that fires a 130 mm smoothbore

[crude surge]

I think a 130mm smoothbore would be hilariously fun

But I also think the players will find a thousand things wrong with it if they did add it too

[lone wren]

I mean look at the railgun the vehicle destroyer

[crude surge]

I think they did decent with the railgun destroyer tbh it's super situational without being unfun and useless in regular match play

I wonder how they could balance a 130mm tank cannon

[lone wren]

Two person vehicle one driver one gunner

[hexed mango]

so like how the TOR is

[crude surge]

I def think the community wouldn't like that as a whole tbh

Although that would probably be the way it would have to be

[hexed mango]

we need some more air vehicles

ones that arent entirely broken

[lone wren]

I am currently talking about the tor but for a 130 mm smoothbore using tank I reckon 4 seats

[hexed mango]

gotcha

[crude surge]

If you can find the right hill the TOR makes a better AA craft than the wildcat does lmao

[hexed mango]

fr

i snipe helis with it

its so fun in all out superiority

[crude surge]

Im not usually big on the ground vehicles cause I just feel handicapped most the time but there's nothing as satisfying as shitting on a heli with the TOR

Definitely takes some skill and a bit of luck though

[hexed mango]

Joel is my dad